Ever found yourself at the frozen meat section, not for the groceries but for a rendezvous with an old flame? Well, neither have we, but the thought alone sparked a lively debate about trust and past relationships with Mz Reality, as we unraveled the layers of personal boundaries and unfair pressures in our latest podcast episode. We didn't stop there; the conversation surged through the societal currents, dissecting gender roles, dating dynamics, and the puzzling perception of men as 'the prize' in relationships, regardless of their partner's accolades.
When Dr. Umar stepped into our ring for a marathon discussion, the air electrified with topics that cut deep into the fabric of cultural identity. We sparred over the complexities of interracial relationships and their bearing on black leadership, a discourse that, while heated, brought to light the numerous shades of personal choice versus public advocacy. And as we wove through stories about prominent figures like Simone Biles and Serena Williams, we unearthed the seismic shifts in how we perceive women's success and its interplay with romantic partnerships, challenging norms and expectations along the way.
But it wasn't all serious business; we sprinkled humor and candid reflections throughout, from the return of tramp stamps in the dating scene to grappling with Kanye West's latest exploits and commentaries on race. Whether pondering the implications of gambling addiction or dissecting Kevin Hart's legal scuffles, our episode is a tapestry of thought-provoking narratives that promise to entertain and challenge your perspectives. So join us, and be part of the conversation that's as diverse as it is unapologetically real.
Ever found yourself at the frozen meat section, not for the groceries but for a rendezvous with an old flame? Well, neither have we, but the thought alone sparked a lively debate about trust and past relationships with Mz Reality, as we unraveled the layers of personal boundaries and unfair pressures in our latest podcast episode. We didn't stop there; the conversation surged through the societal currents, dissecting gender roles, dating dynamics, and the puzzling perception of men as 'the prize' in relationships, regardless of their partner's accolades.
When Dr. Umar stepped into our ring for a marathon discussion, the air electrified with topics that cut deep into the fabric of cultural identity. We sparred over the complexities of interracial relationships and their bearing on black leadership, a discourse that, while heated, brought to light the numerous shades of personal choice versus public advocacy. And as we wove through stories about prominent figures like Simone Biles and Serena Williams, we unearthed the seismic shifts in how we perceive women's success and its interplay with romantic partnerships, challenging norms and expectations along the way.
But it wasn't all serious business; we sprinkled humor and candid reflections throughout, from the return of tramp stamps in the dating scene to grappling with Kanye West's latest exploits and commentaries on race. Whether pondering the implications of gambling addiction or dissecting Kevin Hart's legal scuffles, our episode is a tapestry of thought-provoking narratives that promise to entertain and challenge your perspectives. So join us, and be part of the conversation that's as diverse as it is unapologetically real.
Soon as damn, I forgot his name again.
Speaker 2:Jonathan Owens.
Speaker 1:The Simone Bowls husband. That's his name. Yeah, so as soon as Simone Bowls husband stop talking, oh shit.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you his name. I'm not having you not taking no hold from me.
Speaker 2:my n***a Again. In my theory, the pursuer and her have been meeting up at this grocery store for weeks. Don't touch me, don't touch me. I don't want to be touched. Don't touch me.
Speaker 1:I don't like his sentiment of because you're a man, you should have done more to not be s***ly assaulted. That's the real power bottom.
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Speaker 1:What is good?
Speaker 2:It's time to go, man. We got to get started. I don't even want to hold you up. We got to get to this music real quick. I got a good one for y'all, so let's get it.
Speaker 5:I already told you I will not be distracted from this anymore. I won't. It will take more than head games to stop me. You may haven't faded my mind and my body, but there's one thing to say and always keeps.
Speaker 6:Subscribe Just the ones that lost. I got niggas mad at me cause I wouldn't cross Solid as they come. You niggas ain't bust shit how long you had they gun Walk in so much pain. I ain't mad at them, but they feel it's not as if I threw a bag at them. Damn, had to turn my thug up. Had to put my love up.
Speaker 7:I told him. I told him, hey, hey, I told him Up in the morning miss you bad, so he ain't call you back. Same problem my father had All this time, all he had, all he had and what he dreamed, all this cash, Margie crash. Heard a bad People get the boys for that. Drop some, stack pop some stood. Mama passing Hollywood, If you ask, lost my soul Driving fast, lost control off the road. Jawa's broke. Remember we always broke. Remember I'm coming back, I'll be taking off stacking.
Speaker 5:I got brides in Atlanta. Gigi, don't need no phone Credit cards and scammers Taking off stacking Legacy's found Wasting the life of a gun, going on like I'm a tannin' Honey killers on the hands. Legacy's found Wasting the life of a gun. Puck is full Dining selling but getting Men on the match. You like Randy the chopper, go, I see for granted. Then they come from where you found him. Killers on the stands. I feel like I'm ready to die. Hey.
Speaker 6:I do want to be on the radio. Atl Chess Club. I found her like a sickie. They broke all this water on me.
Speaker 8:I was at my bitch's, my research and my dick's hurt when I switch my wrists up, switch my cars, switch my bitch up Every time I heal her. I broke her off. Then this mister I've been count as PayPal's date. I'm getting blisters, roll, kill Every time I pop out in a new wheel. Get in your way. Niggas ain't running out with my new drum Rolls. It fights it, patents it overkill, cutes you in. The niggas ain't nothing to do with it. Overkill when you in the fleet ain't nothing to say. Why you over here, body count, car to car, steady count, losing count, twisted count.
Speaker 8:Roger, mouse Overseas tank. For now, get the set. Let them first Get my dog, roger. Now these pills and shadows are spot on my fit with 23. No mouse can't shout. Put it up by the time I hit 23. Serpent in her nits. I'm knowin' they call flu-ro-ski Rick Ski. I just went so deep I made a no-bleed. I'm gonna get a little shit. I'm gonna go inside the rocks. I got a bird. I'm gonna come and shit on Quentin, st John, put on a hand drink.
Speaker 4:I walk in the corner with the body streaming. Daughter Just that hit a random rock. I'm so back with lookin' like Pablo and the flow Use it right here. This don't make me feel no way. I don't even kill my daughter. You already know. You already know I walk in the corner with the money on my face. She might get it, pop it. Love my wife before the queen. I already know, already know me and her own. All I need is a run. Turn up any time now when I turn it on. You know how I get to it when I turn it on. Got a new woman and you're not turnin' it on Too fast for us, but like no, there's no way to run. Get in the rock. Let's show you how to run. Let's go, and I know you won't tell nobody. No, I'm ready, I'm turned up.
Speaker 2:I'm excited. I'm glad. I love that Good you ready. Excitement energy. Did I get you where you needed to go. Because it got me Well, no, it did no.
Speaker 7:The music that turns you up is not the same music that turns me up. We know this, though Now where?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna get some little, some pianos in the next one.
Speaker 2:Get some pianos a little, a little guitar in there, maybe some drums, additional drums, that would work. Would that be better? I just need you to play some Africans or some Caribbean. None of the African American nonsense.
Speaker 1:We'll hit some jars on the next one, I'll pick the songs for the next one.
Speaker 2:You did the last couple ones, so we'll do. I'll do the next one.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's get into it. You are now listening to the next song. I'll do the next one.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get into it. You are now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, rhetoric, and I'm, with my lovely and amazing and pink co-host, Everything pink Period, mystery reality? So shout out to her.
Speaker 1:Hi guys, what's going on?
Speaker 2:All right, so we gotta get into it. Let's get into the show man. Holiday seasons coming around, I think we had a good holiday, you think so I think it was successful. It was cute we did. But I think we need to tell the story of what happened. Man, I never thought I would be ever be putting this position ever in my life. This is something straight out of a lifetime movie.
Speaker 1:First of all, I am an attractive woman.
Speaker 2:No one's saying that you're not. This has almost zero to do with your attractiveness.
Speaker 1:I have a past, gasper I need a gasper.
Speaker 2:We'll start with just Damn. I feel lied to, so I think we just need to straight up and tell the people what happened.
Speaker 1:I was doing my wife duties Hold on.
Speaker 2:Are we going to tell your story or do we need to tell the truth of my story, which is you want me to tell?
Speaker 1:my theory? No, whatever you tell is going to be nonsense. Should I tell my?
Speaker 2:theory first. I think I should tell my theory first because it's going to be way better.
Speaker 1:This is what I need to understand, farah. Let the people know it's a theory and not the fucking truth.
Speaker 2:This is my theory. Okay, so Farah, the beautiful woman that she is, she only does our grocery shopping. So you know, she's telling me lately that she's changed grocery stores For good reason.
Speaker 2:For economic reasons, for good reason. I'm not saying that it's a problem, but this change happened. It did so in my mind. Okay, that's not weird until this past time. Her last visit I asked the right question Because normally I'm just like, oh, you're back from the grocery store, we don't even talk about the run. But I think this time she wasn't able to withhold information from me because I had a good question. Did anything interesting happen?
Speaker 1:at the grocery store I was like actually yes. She said she had the audacity, the ameliority.
Speaker 2:Oh my, goodness, the audacity to say yeah, it did so. Now my curious self. I have to go into what happens. She tells me that she ran into an ex at the grocery store during Christmas time. Is that not a lifetime movie Ex is crazy. So is this not an ex?
Speaker 1:No, because we were not together. So this is the old work. This is somebody that pursued me.
Speaker 2:So pursued, okay, okay. So we have a pursuer here. Yeah. Okay, so she ran into her pursuer again, so she's been pursuing my theory. She's been pursuing the pursuer and her have been meeting up at this grocery store for weeks.
Speaker 1:So I've been cheating on my husband. I haven't said you've done anything.
Speaker 2:I just said you've been meeting with the man and I haven't asked the right questions to know what's been going on. So potentially you may have been withholding information from me.
Speaker 1:No, this is the first time I've ever run into somebody that I used to talk to when we've been together, so yeah, and my again my story.
Speaker 2:they're on their rendezvous at the, at the frozen meat section, and this is the first time she accidentally wears her ring because he speaks on it.
Speaker 1:I accidentally wear my ring.
Speaker 2:And then she burst his little bubble because she tells him I'm sorry, but another one chose me before you, lad, and now again I don't even know what to think.
Speaker 1:He chose me before you did. I just didn't let him.
Speaker 2:So why are you meeting at this gentleman at the, at the grocery store? What do you?
Speaker 1:mean why?
Speaker 7:I don't know, why do you mean why, why, how, when is this the?
Speaker 1:second, third rendezvous, can we All right? So let me tell you all the truth, this time, of what actually happened. I'm at the grocery store, literally minding my African no, my Haitian American business, and I'm walking and then I hear somebody say my name.
Speaker 2:What, what name did he say? Okay, I'm just I didn't, I didn't know.
Speaker 1:you go by a lot of different aliases and I look up and I'm like, oh shit, why did you even try to catch my attention?
Speaker 2:See, in my, in my vision, like in my theory, he's like probably like three inches tall. Within me, you know, probably got like some good traps, hairline crisp. So that's what I'm hearing. When I hear this, would you care to describe the individual? All of those things are true.
Speaker 1:He's tall into me. Yeah, might be the same height.
Speaker 2:I gotta fight this, I gotta say I'm going to next time. You're not allowed to go to the grocery store by yourself anymore.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what college you went to, but I know he played football in college.
Speaker 2:I can still take him. I didn't push some football players through the door.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I could take him.
Speaker 1:Y'all live the same height though probably Chiseled still. He was never really chiseled. He gives a position to play.
Speaker 2:He's a big nigga, so he's like offensive line.
Speaker 1:He was hitting niggas.
Speaker 2:I can take that. He was offensive line. I can take him.
Speaker 1:He, he, definitely. I don't think he was like a runner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just struck the whole time, but also I don't like, we didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't get to know that that much about him, you know. So I have no fucking clue. I could be completely wrong, but I do know he played football in college. So I'm just walking past, he calls me and I'm like oh, hey, like. And then he immediately like the like, while I'm replying to him calling me, he looks down at my hand and sees my ring and the next thing he says after me, saying hi is you're married now. And I was like yeah, and he was like how long? And I was like like seven, seven, eight months now. And he was like oh, OK.
Speaker 1:That's a whole time I'm like slowly pushing my cart like away, like I'm not staying here to have a conversation. Please don't continue talking.
Speaker 2:Also my theory. He paid for the food. So like I really been upset for the last few days, I feel like I'm eating another nigga money.
Speaker 1:And where that theory falls through is their Apple pay wasn't working, so I had to come home and get my card so that I could go back to the grocery store to pay for the grocery.
Speaker 2:So like that. Shit don't even make no sense. Sure she was, she wasn't picking something else up for the rendezvous.
Speaker 1:I just I know he doesn't actually think I'm cheating on him, because that would be crazy. It would be not this light of a conversation, but yeah it would have been on a six o'clock news. That was in a different time in my life. I ghosted that man twice, yeah. So when he called me, I was. I was like why would you even like if somebody ghosted me two times, like if I see you in public and like I didn't see him first?
Speaker 2:He saw me first. Football players, don't take no for an answer.
Speaker 1:He saw me first, so I would have ignored me if I was him, but he didn't do that Like.
Speaker 2:I said football players don't like football players because, like they get head injuries, they just think other people are on the same, like mental. So they just think that you know like, oh, I can get a chance with this girl at any time. Who's not going to, who's not going to fuck? The third string offense alignment. I don't speak to my woman, no more. You see her, you fucking look down.
Speaker 1:I was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:You should have been. You should have called me just to go up there. I'd have left, whatever I was doing, just pulled up.
Speaker 1:That was unnecessary. He was in the checkout line.
Speaker 2:Whatever, I pushed his little card over me and took it a little.
Speaker 1:You know how all D has that. It's only like think so I was walking through them. I was walking through like the middle, where people have to like split up to let you walk past, and he was like in the back.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. No, I'm on your business next time, bro. Real shit.
Speaker 1:And there was an old man that was like in front of me, like in front of him, in the line, that, like, was listening to us have a conversation, and when he was like you married now, he made a face. The old black man that was in front of us was like, yeah, y'all got to understand too. This was like man. She's taken now.
Speaker 2:This was like right before Christmas too, so like yeah. I'm seeing this all happen while I'm at home, you know, trying to get my work done, and then just to come home to hear my woman say that she was a frolicking with a with a past associate of the male. In the grocery store.
Speaker 1:I was not gallivanting with that man.
Speaker 2:It was. It was. It was hurtful. I had to. I was going through changes. I ain't gonna lie. I had to recover.
Speaker 1:I'm going through changes.
Speaker 2:I was going through some changes, but I'm all right now. I didn't, I didn't fix myself. You know, I got myself together, re-evaluated some things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a prize.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, I'm a catch.
Speaker 1:So, you, we're gonna get into he was trying to catch me again for the third time.
Speaker 2:Like I said, we're gonna get into these football players now so we can get into Simone Bowls, all right, so this has been having internet going through a storm. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:It has been so I specifically did not watch this clip because of the reaction around it that I was seeing and I was like I don't feel like raising my blood pressure. I don't feel like listening to men say things that will piss me off, because I have to do that on a regular basis Just against my will.
Speaker 2:That is not true, I be kicking shit that you love, so don't even do that.
Speaker 1:So I just didn't click on it until today because I had to watch it for the show. When I finally clicked on it and listen to it, I was like this is what Shala up in arms about. Like if you watch the clip, so are we going to play it.
Speaker 2:I can play right now. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Let's play it for you guys, because this is not what I thought everyone was so upset about.
Speaker 11:For a couple of days, man, and it's like she pops up and I'm like, let me see what this is.
Speaker 11:Gymnastics. I never really paid attention to gymnastics, so it piqued my curiosity. So I'm like, okay, that's that's, that's, that's that I see what's up. I swiped her and it said we match. So I'm like, okay, so I'm gonna see what's up. So I go do my workout and I come back and I get like I have some likes on my Instagram, you know. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is my video. Okay, so I see what's up. And then I still waited. I'm like, man, I'm away, I'm away till I take a shower and everything.
Speaker 11:Then I come back to my phone and then she measures me on the app, like, hey, you know what I mean? I'm man, that's a man, it's got to be fake. Like I don't know. Just, I didn't know who she was at the time, but like, the first thing that I saw was that she just had a bunch of followers. So my mind, I'm like, okay, she got to be good. If I promise you I'm a real life story when she won the Olympics, I was in college and we didn't have NBC, we didn't have Olympic channels and we're in camp. We're in camp late, late, late July, early August. So I'm not paying attention to you know. So I never would have had a moment to where I would have watched. Like you know, john, come and let you finish your story, man, continue.
Speaker 1:But like I was saying, man, she she, she was like a two day and we, we, we were texting back and forth and then we hung out Friday, man, we couldn't do much as COVID happened.
Speaker 11:Everything was shut down. So she came through down down to Houston. She lived in the suburbs so she had to drive about 45 minutes to the first meetup. Then the rest is history, man. So you was really the catch in. I always say we demand a catch man I always say, talk about it. So she really booked you. She did, though.
Speaker 1:What is this interviewers name? Do you know his name? Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark had that loaded in the clip. He it was bubble egg inside. He was like ooh, ooh, a viral moment. A viral moment, like he had that shit loaded up and as soon as um, damn, I've got his name again Jonathan.
Speaker 2:Owens.
Speaker 1:The Simone Bowles husband. That's his name. Yeah, so as soon as Simone Bowles husband stopped talking, oh shit, I'll tell you his name for you to just a completely disregarded.
Speaker 12:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:As soon as, as soon as her husband stops talking, he's like so you was a catch. He couldn't wait to do that shit. And I'm not even mad at you. You did your job as a podcast host. We talking about it so period. So let's get into just the first part of it that had I think most people are going to play the rest of it, though, when you want to know, play the the second thing he says too, because I want everyone to hear this and know that he was the instigator, the interviewer.
Speaker 11:So you was really the catch in. I always say, we demand a catch man. I always say yeah, so she really booked you. She did, though. Is what you said, cause I was fighting it, I was fighting it.
Speaker 3:So, you so, in truth, if I say this out loud this was Jonathan Owens. Ain't really want some on bars.
Speaker 7:Is what you're saying. That's the moment that he was trying to get he was trying to break that news.
Speaker 1:We can stop it. I was afraid to come.
Speaker 2:Why he want and my boys say he was afraid to commit. Don't do that.
Speaker 1:So now he's not. He was, he was a football. He's a football player. It's his first three years in NFL.
Speaker 2:He was trying to knock shit down College, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:He was trying to knock shit down. That's that's what he was trying to do so, all right.
Speaker 2:So let's get into the first thing. I don't want to get too too much into the drama just yet. Let's just start with the first part. He said our men to catch are quote unquote the men in the prize part. I think this is pretty clear. It is definitely the men in the prize. Even if you're an amazing Olympic gymnast, you're still going to be the prize. So even like, let's ask you know who's a good example? Serena, who's the one who she knew, regardless of why she was pregnant? They lifestyle was not gonna change.
Speaker 2:That's why mr Reddit that's why I say that we're the prize, because, regardless of any relationship that is successful, that blooms and prospers, that still becomes I hate this word, but it's only where to use, for it's a lot becomes a liability.
Speaker 1:So I Don't think so.
Speaker 2:Unless she doesn't want to have kids, then as a woman, you're gonna be a Liability, at least for nine months at one point in our relationship.
Speaker 1:It made me very uncomfortable to think about this topic, like our men the prize, I did. And then, because I was uncomfortable with the verbiage of like Men being the catch and men being the prize, I was like why, specifically like why? Why is this verbiage uncomfortable for me to use? When I'm talking about men, we can say, oh, he's a good man, savannah in this and that, and we it's a thing, he's a good man, savannah Okay but, like. I thought that was a shot at LeBron.
Speaker 9:I was like no, no, no, no no, it's a, it's a movie.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, goddamn it, but we can say that. But I don't know why I was like super uncomfortable with with that verbiage. Like I Don't think just men in relationships or just women are the catch. You can both be catches. That's probably what you should try to Work towards. Get somebody that is a catch and you're a catch too, right, I think. Um, he probably is a catch technically To her if, if he didn't know who she was, that might have been a positive to her, even though we're like, oh, there's no way that she was yeah, hold on.
Speaker 2:I want to talk about that too as a whole separate point, because I think that's really important to know, like About that point. But you know, continue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that might have been important to her. And then, like this is a young black man who makes money. He don't have no kids. Like, is that not a catch? Like why are we so Uncomfortable with a black man saying that he is a catch? He didn't. Also, he didn't say that about his relationship. The the podcast of the host said it and he jokingly was like oh yeah, I always say men are either catch. That he didn't say that. Like, oh, I'm the catch of this relationship and she's lucky that she should be with me. That wasn't his sentiment.
Speaker 2:Like I don't like how folks are treating him. Like he was like I never dated dark skin girls like before, before her, like that's how they treated him. Like he said something crazy like that. Yeah, like all he said was again, I think that as a man I'm the catch, and he kind of just talked about how she pursued but he didn't even say that specifically.
Speaker 1:He said I say, men are the catch, like but man, so he itself, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't even think that that's something. That's a sentiment he carried with him throughout. Anything you can tell it was a light hearted. It was just a little hee, hee, ha, ha moment and y'all are turning it into like Some crazy thing and y'all are having to. Simone has come out on multiple occasions after this came out and Was like leave it alone, like, and y'all keep talking about it. And now the, the white women are in it, which is specifically funny to me because, like usually when things on in the black Jumping too fast.
Speaker 1:Okay, stay on. Stay on what we talking about.
Speaker 2:We're talking about, maybe in the catch, did you? You didn't clarify the why you were uncomfortable With men.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I was uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:I just don't have you explored it at all to feel like get any kind of idea why? It's probably because conditioning yeah, because I feel like purple.
Speaker 1:No, it's just because I feel like I'm the one that's supposed to be doted on and catered to, and and All of the nice things are supposed to be said to me, and and then you're supposed to just bear. As a man, you're just supposed to bear and exist and be, and then be happy because I'm here with you, so y'all have a miss, miss, a mistaken understanding of what shivery is so.
Speaker 2:Women think shivery is something that they're old and that it's a blessing to get receive it, or not even a blessing, that is, it's an entitlement to receive it.
Speaker 1:I don't think women of my generation think that, but continue y'all do think shivery is something y'all entitled to.
Speaker 2:And y'all is gonna think for Mad Long y'all feel like shivery is something that y'all are entitled to.
Speaker 1:In regards to being I, Want to ask you what you think shivery means in our day and age, because it's not the same thing it used to mean, but I mean your point.
Speaker 2:I feel like a lot of people don't understand the hint to me. My point was that a lot of y'all don't understand the history of shivery. Y'all don't understand what it was for. It was not because we thought women were were this special person and that need to be treated. It's because they thought women were dumb shivery is is rooted in whiteness anyways. I mean, yeah, but it's, it was created an idea of. Women are less than yes Are dumb.
Speaker 2:They need you to be gentle and soft with them, because they will crack and burn if they don't. But y'all try to take it as this thing like no, I'm, it's because I'm awesome, I promise you no.
Speaker 1:It's not.
Speaker 2:You just said you should don't. You just said you should just bear with.
Speaker 1:It's not because I'm awesome, it's simply because I'm a woman, but that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:There is probably only about five percent of women on earth that the guy that they're with is with them because they're awesome. The rest of the 95 are with them because the woman is useful.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's real.
Speaker 2:Which percentage of my in what's the one that's not gonna get me in trouble tonight?
Speaker 1:Wow, no, don't touch me. No, fucking touch me. Filthy hands off me nigger.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't do this podcast if you. I would just want you to be useful.
Speaker 1:You could be useful unless open way you had a podcast with a bunch of other men and decided to do with me instead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's not because you were useful, it's because you were gonna be willing to help me with it. I you useful.
Speaker 1:That's not not man saying it's useful like wow, I'm in the 95%.
Speaker 2:No no, if you were useful, it would have been the first plane that we talked about. Would you just be an off camera? That would be you just being, you using, you just cuz you're using yelling by yourself.
Speaker 2:That would have got my shit off, but that would have been you being useful me liking you and caring about your opinion and wanting you to see you thrive and be out here. I talk make sure you look good, don't? I don't I care about all that stuff. Make sure your parents is good, yeah. So again, it's not just you're being useful to me.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, I Like that answer. Let's continue.
Speaker 2:I'm saying that that's the truth, though Most is because you people are useful, like that's just a real idea. Like I Hate that. You know y'all feel bad about that, but well, that's what marriage is.
Speaker 1:marriage is not love, it's useful.
Speaker 2:It's duty yeah it's a contract like it's an idea. The principal idea is hey you, if I can relieve you of labor, you relieve me of chores.
Speaker 1:That is our contract. That's not everybody's contract. You can't speak for everybody. That's our contract.
Speaker 2:That's been the general contract of people over history. Yeah, it's like, if it's, the woman was handed domestic and the man went and made Money outside. And then it wasn't until, you know, as time progressed, and y'all went outside and got your own job, but still y'all time, but that was because black women were working the entire time. Yeah, I mean we're not.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about Put that parentheses y'all forget that, though put that in the parentheses while you talking. I want to put that there.
Speaker 2:But we, when y'all talk about soft life, let's get back on some own box. But we all talk about soft life.
Speaker 1:That's what we deserve now because we've been working, we've been in the field which y'all know. The women who did it deserve that.
Speaker 2:You don't just get it cuz Off the GP, all right. So people was going into a lot of crazy, crazy conversations into this Like folks was acting like this whole conversation, like one of the funniest things was was seeing the gay guys talk about this and like one.
Speaker 2:I saw one gay guy said like I just wish a dark skin woman could have a love story. And I'm just so confused because it's like Are you against the patriarchy or not? Because you're saying you want her to have this love story but in your mind cuz I read the next tweet and you're mine the love story is a patriarchal love story when the man comes like a king and he slays the dragon and he says come, my beautiful brown queen.
Speaker 2:Let me love my black woman out loud and then he takes her off to the, to the. You know the magical black force, like that's what I mean. What is it that y'all want? The nigga just say y'all met on raya.
Speaker 1:And I didn't know who she was. I went to the shower. She was ready, she she liked a bunch of pictures. She came to the spot, she pulled up to the spot. Simone was like I want that dick period. And then she got it. Why are y'all mad?
Speaker 2:Hey, did y'all see? Did you see the video?
Speaker 1:never married like she. She got that dick and put it on lock.
Speaker 2:Did you see the video that they put? It was an old video they had posted together where she was like dressed like a dude and he was dressed like a woman and there was a alarming Lack of dick.
Speaker 1:So that's what I was gonna ask you about the question.
Speaker 2:You just said that's what the women were saying. I didn't notice. Yeah, that's what the women were saying in the comments.
Speaker 1:I looked at it about three times. I was like where's it at? Where is it? I don't see it. Where is it, Simone? Where is?
Speaker 2:it at Simone, I think once. I think as a guy, once you become 6, 3 Unless you have like an abnormally large dick, it just looks bad. I think it's always gonna look small, like after 6, 3 you should have.
Speaker 1:You should have at least Got it a half mass Before you got on that video if you knew that you that tall and that big and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:because he, like you know, like super head, in her book she said like Shaq wasn't proportional, so like that's where it was crazy, like it was, but it's like Like you could still be have a hammer, but it's like because I'm a giant of a man.
Speaker 1:It just looks like when, when the hammer starts hammering, it's still a hammer.
Speaker 2:I feel like no, I feel like honestly so, but when you see the, when you see the proportions, as a woman, I I think that's what messes it up.
Speaker 1:What's his name?
Speaker 2:again who? Jonathan Owens? Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:Simone, doesn't even look like he got. That that's I was looking for, like a shadow or a bulge or a lump or a curvature of some sort.
Speaker 2:You trying to say he wasn't meeting.
Speaker 1:The meat was not meeting, the bulge was not bulging. Damn but also, like Simone, is mad tiny, so she don't need that much.
Speaker 2:I was gonna ask you do you think she mad?
Speaker 1:tiny incision gymnast. Everything's tight.
Speaker 2:So you think, so you do. So you think that because of her smaller mass, she doesn't need as much she could do a kegel and form her vagina to be small enough.
Speaker 1:To form around it to, to make his tiny little shmeeny-smeet feel like you know, like he out there doing work like he yeah, that's crazy like he man dingo for real.
Speaker 2:That's wild. Wow, that is so different.
Speaker 1:I feel like Simone bowels kegels are on another level.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get into this other portion that I felt like you don't address that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't want to. I mean I think we should. Well, let me get into this other part then. So what do you think to the question? This is was this was, uh, proposed by a lot of different people Regarding Simone bowels overall attractiveness, because I was even in some spaces on x and folks who's going in on shawty they was talking about her looks like severely and they were saying like she should be. She, I guess you know a lot of people had an issue with in the conversation was he's basically making her look thirsty for him, and a lot of guys were saying if you look at shawty, you're going she is the type of woman that would have to be Into you for you to be more into her. Do you think that's disrespectful or the truth? What he would? That is disrespectful, of course is disrespectful. Wow, there are some girls that you have to pull up. She has to pull. She has to bring the 35 over for you to be cool with her just because it's the truth doesn't mean my feelings aren't hurt by it.
Speaker 2:I mean we're not talking about Simone's feelings at this point we're just talking about. Do you think that that's a real aspect of it in regards to that was something he may have been hinting at, or do you think it was just something he was just being? He didn't even look at it like that? I mean, if that's how the story went.
Speaker 1:I don't think he was hinting at that. I think he was telling the story how it went. That's how she moved. What are you asking? Is that how she moves? Because of how she looks?
Speaker 2:no, I'm asking well, we're going to, we can go into that like does she have to move that way? Let's ask two questions Does she have to move that way because of how she looked? And also, when you move like that, is that an L in any way? Because you message me first.
Speaker 1:Did.
Speaker 2:I message you first talk about it as you, as we. Just you did, yes, you did, you did, you did.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:I'll bring it up.
Speaker 1:I don't. Um, I'm not opposed to me messaging people first, but I probably just said hey, hun, you probably said something you.
Speaker 2:You initiated the conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we weren't on bubble.
Speaker 2:So. No, yeah that's what I'm saying. We had to make that specific, you know, because if you initiated, yeah, because, yeah, it was hinge. I'm still him.
Speaker 1:But, um, I don't even remember the the two questions you asked me.
Speaker 2:So I think that she have to do it because of the looks? And is it an L? Because she initiated? And Not only does she initiate, she just do. Hey, hun, like you, she went to the instagram and started liking pictures and stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay. So To answer the first question, I would have to let you know how I, what, my, what I think some old miles attractiveness level is, and I am not comfortable doing that.
Speaker 2:That's fucked up. So that means you think she ugly, so you need to talk about it, don't disrespect your dark skin sisters like that. Talk about it.
Speaker 1:I don't think she's ugly, but I also don't think that she's the type that her husband would Regularly go for so we'll get into this a little bit more. So I think that she probably did have to like get his attention and like make him know that like she really Was interested in him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she had to pop it in. She had to pop it in the mouth the first night, huh Like just just to let him know she was dead ass.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think the driving 45 minutes. Let him know she was dead ass.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure like I've Been fortunate enough to know that you know when a woman is driving at least 30 minutes to you, she's that's like her way of telling you she's consenting Mm-hmm, like generally, unless she ain't into it at all, she ain't driving that far. I think I've only had one time but that was because that was for us to break up that a girl traveled that far to see me and we didn't do nothing. But again, that was just for us to break up. I was told that she should just say good gas money. All right, that was, you could have did this over the phone. Yeah, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get into this and I want to say something they did say. They said that if you look this, who he follows in regards to the women on his, on his social media None of, but nobody looks like Simone Biles.
Speaker 1:I don't think they would. I don't think men like him, like I said before, go for typically, go for women like that. But he said that after their first date they vibed really well and it was.
Speaker 2:It was. He did say he was resistant. Do you think that was resistant because he was focused or that was a resistance because he didn't want her?
Speaker 1:He said because he didn't want to commit. I think he didn't want to commit to her. Yeah, maybe my thing is this but now they're married so we can't say that he'd like, specifically didn't want, to commit to her. I think he just wanted to keep hoeing.
Speaker 2:I would just say this we could probably look at the timeline Of his career and when they got married. I believe he was in the league when they got married, right? He was already trying to be a professional athlete.
Speaker 2:I have no idea. I believe that's the case and I will say this he did get hurt his first couple years in the league and he was being pushed on practice squads and stuff like that. Now he's a you know, he's a regular player, you know, on the on the roster. I could definitely see a world where, after that injury, got to reevaluate some things that we, these box, gonna be selling for a long time. Hey, baby, come here, let's go, let's do the little what they do in that picture.
Speaker 2:Let's do that because I need to make sure this ain't gonna be straight, and then he could be on his bullshit. Okay, I don't. My thing is this I want to say I don't feel like he, in this conversation, had did anything wrong.
Speaker 2:I think he's being genuine and honest and I think a lot of y'all who are trying to read the situation, trying to say, oh, he's setting her up for the, for the oaky dope. You may be on to something, but you're wrong. I think there may be some up, some oaky dope, maybe on the foot too. I wouldn't be surprised. Shout out to that nigga. But I will say something I didn't like that I was seeing From this whole conversation, because I think I think both of us, as men and women, we need to understand this in a little bit, and when we're so forward in our disrespect for each other, we allow these other, uh, folks that don't look like us to just start commenting on our Business like they know what's up.
Speaker 1:The white women are on tiktok, disrespecting the hell white women. It's the. It's the white men too Well, yeah, all of everybody else. This has gotten outside of just the black community, but I think it's because of who Simone Biles is specifically Like.
Speaker 2:She's an olympian, she's she's famous outside of the the black community, so People they got folks in there Disrespecting his man career like he is, not just because he's undrafted like he is now fighting and getting his his own in the NFL, like there was this guy that was at the, there was this gay guy. He's gay, he's sounding gay. He was the one who exposed to who he was following.
Speaker 1:He was at the game and he was like I'm looking for uh. He was like, oh, simone Biles husband said he was the catch. I'm looking for Simone Biles husband on the field, where is he? And then he zooms in on the bench and he was like, oh, there he is, he's on the bench.
Speaker 2:And I'm pretty sure the offense was on the field during that time. So it doesn't even matter. I don't know niggas showing niggas was showing you the fucking game. And green bay was on offense and this nigga plays defense.
Speaker 1:I don't know, what that means.
Speaker 2:I. Was, I'm just a girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep that, I like that I'm literally just a girl.
Speaker 2:That was attractive. Do that again, all right, but I don't like that. That was the one thing I don't like when we get into these situations, because the folks be getting to our culture, talking about us, and it actually we talk about people as a person, like they was really Railing on this dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were. Um, the white women were walking up to their husbands like, do you know who Simone Biles is? They'll be like, yeah, the Olympian. And they'll be like, do you know who her husband is? I'm like she has a husband, she's married, and then the women like walk away like exactly that's more of a shot at Simone Biles then anything. How is it a shot of Simone Biles? They know who she is, but they don't know who that she's married that means you're they know her.
Speaker 2:That means you're famous, but they don't know her personal life. Yeah, that means you're notable but not famous. That's fine.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm okay with that, that's a limit, I'm okay with being notable with not famous, yeah, but I mean that's a limited know my accolades and nothing about me personally. I mean that's that could also be the agree a to a degree of you're not interesting too. Yeah you know, because I mean I always thought shawty before her was always gonna be bigger than Simone Biles, gabby Douglas I think I thought so too. I always thought she was gonna be way bigger than her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Simone came in and dominated yeah, she was this destroyed star like she was doing shit that didn't even make sense but then, um, gabby took a break for a while. Yeah, I'm pretty sure after she dominated she was just after her run. She was just because usually gymnasts don't last that long, like no, it's not something you can.
Speaker 1:It's grueling On your body and due to her size.
Speaker 2:That's why she's been able to, you know, be a little bit longer because her being smaller. Uh, but one thing I was, another thing I just kept people seeing was like they were trying to use her accomplishments as a reason why he should be feeling honored to be with her. And why do you, why do y'all think that y'all, y'all actual accomplishments mean something to a man in the dating world?
Speaker 1:I think it's because of the podcast conversations of what do you bring to the table. So when a woman has all of this, then it makes it seem like the the table is about to break.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's a podcast thing. I think the table thing came from before that, when it was like an idea of, oh, women need to have their careers and stuff. And you know when I was yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:I think um the gold digger thing that was pushed against black women. We like over corrected, and then we were like oh, I have this, this that don't need you for this. Have this this that.
Speaker 2:It wasn't over correct because you had gold digger for Kanye and then neo dropped every fucking independent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think it was like an over correction and then, like now that we're in, still this like over correction era. Yeah that a woman like Simone Biles, a woman like Serena Williams, when you internalize that, what do you bring to the table conversation? When women like her get a man, it's like, yeah, that's what she brings to the table. So I think that's why people are like, that's why you should be, you should be lucky that you're with someone with that many accolades Because she brings so much to the table.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then at the same, if that's something that you value, my thing is the same token. This kind of goes back to the initial thing about being a catch. You can't be a catch unless you're willing to provide for somebody a hundred percent, and that's just. That's a prerequisite.
Speaker 1:I think you're a catch, depending on whatever that person specifically desires, wants and needs. Like do you? Are you the cake and the icing too? Then you're the catch and the cake. The recipe to the cake depends on that specific person. Who is calling you the catch or not.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're making it too hard. I like minds, minds a lot easier. Hey, man you, are you willing to support another human being while they service you in non labor weight, non labor ways in regards to taxable income, that is. That is how you're the catch, and the fact that she could never do another flip in her life and he can still keep her clothed and fed At a upscale rate. He could keep her, yeah, he'd keep her clothed and fed If she never did another if she never did another flip.
Speaker 1:That's what I just said. Nobody would need to keep. Keep her anything.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying she never. If she never earned another penny, she would still be okay with his earnings and his potential future. That can go.
Speaker 1:I just, I just wanted to be no, like she would be okay without his earnings and things she would still be thriving.
Speaker 2:You keep making it about her. Okay, that's what I'm saying is this Her accomplishments mean nothing to him. In regards to they might not. When I say when, I mean mother too doesn't mean that he doesn't care about them. It means it doesn't affect his life. Women's accomplishments and in regard and reverse not reverse their accomplishments in rev and when you're looking at it, against their man, it's just something as Trying to clear it up that you don't think that the opposite would happen if she didn't have him.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? The opposite. What happened she?
Speaker 1:like if, if she never did another flip and she wasn't with him, she would still be completely fine. I mean, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about if she's not so that's why change is to never earn another dollar.
Speaker 2:Yeah what I'm saying is in regards to her success. This goes to Darius, with with kiki, there goes to stedman and, uh, oprah. A woman's success is only used to you as a man. It's something to Put your light there, honestly, like it's only there to diminish you, because that's all people compare because of how Our society and our misogyny is set up.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to provide as a man. If you're not the one providing and you're if you're not the one bringing the biggest bag, then people are going to perceive it as you're not doing your duty as a man, and that's a. That's that's a, it's a negative, it's a l.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's like, at that port, at that point, it's really no benefit for you, because this is going to happen to you every time. You're going to be Darius, you're going to be jonathan, you're going to be stedman. Because it doesn't benefit. That's why I wouldn't be like oh, it seems like when I get degrees, I get less opportunity from it. Yeah, because your success only Only works as a bigger sun to diminish my light, but it doesn't bring like. It's like, basically like having Like. I'm the sun and I'm giving off the radiation, but there's this bigger sun that's blocking my light, that doesn't get off any radiation.
Speaker 1:It doesn't? You gotta have enough to make him feel like You're not trying to take advantage of him, but you can't have too much on the nigger. Honestly, that depends on the have too much to outshine his shine to make other people feel like he's less of a man.
Speaker 2:No, it's not, because, honestly, if you make your, okay, my thing is this y'all niggas will say that, oh, if she don't have her own, I promise you bring this nigga sandwiches all the time. You always in the kitchen cooking for this. If you're being useful to a nigger, that's more about being useful than you being in my early 20s.
Speaker 1:Successful I have that whole like what do I bring to the table? Thing internalized for a very long time and I didn't. I didn't take anybody that I was dating Seriously. I wasn't in like a marriage mindset because I was like I'm not Financially stable, I don't own anything and this and that. And I had a conversation with somebody once and she was like girl, these niggas don't care what you have. Like you're pretty, do you like are? Do you Bring anything to his life that know, but that he can't do himself like you don't have to have a 800 credit score and have your own home and have your own car. Like most of these niggas don't care about that. There are some men who are like I want a boss bitch and I want to send Vesting properties together and I want her to know taxes and loopholes and da, da, da, da da. But a lot of niggas are like that's all most niggas want to know.
Speaker 2:That's not what I was gonna say. I mean, that's what most niggas want to know, Like is she a vibe?
Speaker 1:Do I enjoy her? Is she gonna be a good mother to my children? All that like that's? That's, that's more important. And also do I like her? Because Niggas don't be like it. Women Y'all be, y'all be messing with women. Y'all don't even like for real. Like you like having her around, but you don't really like her for real. You don't want to. You don't want to keep her around, she's just good for now.
Speaker 2:I'm generally is the, is she compliant? That's all that matters.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's the thing. We've been on this for a little minute.
Speaker 2:No, we talked about your little escapade. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah so, yeah, don't be trying to remember your escapades. Don't do that.
Speaker 1:I already forgot them.
Speaker 2:I brought it back up so that's always what you do. All right, so let's get into. Let's see Whoa, we got another theory. We got to bring in man. You gotta talk about your girl, hailey. Okay, hailey, Um I caught a hailey, my bad Halle.
Speaker 1:Halle, that okay. So, hailey, we've been Assuming we haven't been investigating because there's nothing to investigate. We don't know her, it's just stuff she posts. That's not even investigation for real. But she.
Speaker 2:I've been watching ddg videos. What are you talking about? I've been trying to see her. Oh, I can't. Literally. I've been trying to see. I have. Okay, I'm trying to hear a rhetoric has been investigating.
Speaker 1:I have just been.
Speaker 2:Trying to see.
Speaker 1:There's some cribs in the back of the other so, um, we think we thought that Halle was pregnant for Mad Long. On Christmas she posted a video getting up and hugging him, and then her stomach was completely flat. So then Twitter was kind of like everyone's like was she pregnant, was she not? We had you had a theory.
Speaker 2:I had a theory. What was the best?
Speaker 1:about DDG, okay. So yeah, I had a few theories. I've been coming out a lot. Tell them your first theory, first thing, and then I'll finish as we all know, sir DDG is a troll.
Speaker 2:He is and what not is a YouTube master. Why not Perform the biggest troll of all time? Mm-hmm, and y'all think that my superstar girlfriend, who's about to be in All these crazy movies, drop her album water. The good jazz beautiful angel is pregnant with a degenerates child. And that's what he made y'all think. And Then some more information came out.
Speaker 1:So there was. So there was like a good hot, low second that like I thought that maybe that's what happened. Maybe Halle was like ha ha, stop minding my business. Like that's what y'all get. Y'all see, you, do you feel stupid?
Speaker 2:you feel stupid now, but but then I will say this before you say what you said, and then we talk about that video. I will say this I've seen plenty of women who have had Babies and what they look like afterwards. Her body did kind of look like it was post pregnancy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, her boobs look way bigger.
Speaker 2:Her, her body, like it was going through some changes underneath. Yeah, her big ass sweater.
Speaker 1:Usually, like your, your nose spreads a little bit. As a black woman, her nose doesn't look like it spread that much, but that's cuz. Halle has a tiny little nose in the first place.
Speaker 2:Is is amazing.
Speaker 1:She has a cute little nose and cute little button nose, so it's spreading. Doesn't even look like that, that drastic, but okay. So one for like 24 hours we thought maybe she wasn't pregnant. And then DDG, I think, on his YouTube, put out a vlog was it of their Christmas, them just like opening presents and stuff. And there's this part. If you because I sent it to you do you want to play it really quick?
Speaker 2:or no, tell them what happened.
Speaker 1:So, there's this part that, um, they're talking opening presents and you hear something in the background that sounds like a baby crying. There's like one, one whale, there's like a, and then DGD. You hear DDG, cut, cut, cut, and then it cuts off.
Speaker 1:So, but we know but also that could be Just DDG doing what DDG does. That's what I was. There might not be a baby at all, she could just be wearing cups in her bra, and then there might just be a recording of a baby playing in the background. Because why would he yell, cut that loud and then leave that in?
Speaker 7:the video. Yeah, he could have definitely edited that part out very easily cuz this was snapchat.
Speaker 2:I think it was right that look like it was snapchat, not a YouTube vlog.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a little little, little bit somebody else a snapchat, then they reposted yeah, because what I saw didn't have any snapchat. What you said me, did?
Speaker 2:it had the little snapchat bar on it. Oh, I didn't see that. But no, I say it could have been alive. It could have been anything. I think that bro is either really trolling or she is on some Janet Jackson shit where you're like you're not gonna know my baby until I'm like 27.
Speaker 1:Which is fine. Well we don't need to see. People are creepy as hell. I hope we never see that baby. I Hope that's your sentiment. I genuinely do. I hope y'all keep this baby to yourselves. All of your family, people who see you in real life, see your baby. Past that, don't.
Speaker 2:Nobody else needs to see that baby because the thing was, if not, if she just just imagine those videos and clips and they're doing this live, and she got the baby in like three rooms upstairs or something like that.
Speaker 1:No way. But even if it was a snapchat like, why was it posted? You can easily just not post that video is holiday.
Speaker 2:She is in the color purple movie. There's just a lot of reason to be promo right now. It's a lot of ways to get your, your, the followers and stuff up. Yeah so I mean there's a reason why they will be posting right now, like their whole life is I.
Speaker 1:Saw someone talking about like how much money DDG probably makes and how long he's actually been on YouTube and how long he's been popular on YouTube. So as far as like y'all shitting on him saying that like he's this bum, broke homeless bum Compared to Halle, that is, that is that's incorrect. It is because YouTube money is very different and when you have consistent YouTube money like DDG doesn't that's not his only Stream of income and then he does like the live streams on Twitch and then he has his music, which I guess people listen to. I don't people do like he has enough money to take care of her and that baby and and look, look how, how stories change when they find out what the bag look like a man.
Speaker 2:I just want to. I want to be glad that I live in this. No, I still don't like um no, no, let me get this show.
Speaker 1:I don't like how he looks on paper next to how she looks on paper. She's like pristine Angel baby girl. That's our baby, right, little Halle. And then he's like this hoodlum with the baggy pants in the hoodie and he has the money and he could take care of the things, but pull your pants up. You don't look. I don't like the way you look right now. Fix yourself if you trying to get next to her. That's my baby girl. I want to shout out to the women on the internet.
Speaker 2:Because when y'all was talking about that Birkin bag that he bought her yeah, it was a Birkin bag video that was going when he passes her that he bought her. Birkin in a Tiffany's necklace.
Speaker 1:I saw the necklace.
Speaker 2:I just want to say all of y'all women on there are Trifling because basically y'all love to tell men that we can disrespect y'all. We have the money. That's literally what I saw. I saw so many tunes change when that bag was getting passed over if you watch them together, though, like man take note. Like, if you get your bag up, they will allow you to do whatever.
Speaker 1:For the most part, the whole time they've been dating if you watch them together he's been taking her on shopping sprees buying her stuff. That's not the first piece from Tiffany. He's gotten her like they've he's. He's been doing that before.
Speaker 2:But it's just crazy. Just to see because I again I had time when I saw these posts what I would go in. I would go and put their name in, put DDG in and then I would find other posts of them. Shitting on DDG yeah. I'm gonna have him being a bum and he'd be disrespecting her. And now you saying oh antics.
Speaker 2:But my thing is but you can't say the antics are bad when the antics are making the money, so that I can flex on you, yeah. So then those days that the antics, you don't care about the antics, because the antics make the money, y'all just want to shit on them because y'all have one. Y'all like to shit on black men. Yeah, that's why y'all get the shit on people.
Speaker 2:Well, I only give a fuck about black men and I only date black men and I'm only in proximity to black men, so that's who I'm talking about, that's we people who are in their fan base that, though the black women in their family's like we'll shit on a black man, because they want to shit on black man One and because y'all have this holier than thou look for for Chloe and for all these other women who are Doing well, oh we. Chloe's me. Haley Howie.
Speaker 2:Halle, halle and all these other women who are being successful in their fields. Y'all see that and y'all put this picture of a type of Negro that they need to be with, because the Negro they with can't Look like and be like the nigga that's doing whatever to me.
Speaker 1:Yes, I Steadically. If you this type of woman and you represent this to me as a fan, I Am going to prefer that you are with somebody who I think match it, matches that aesthetic for you.
Speaker 2:That's a mental health issue. That is a minute, it's just as a fan it's.
Speaker 1:You don't have to follow that. Halle has gone on lives with Chloe Over and over and over again and told us that she likes hood niggas period and nobody's saying anything wrong with her liking that. No, she's been all over years.
Speaker 2:Y'all the ones who hating her for that.
Speaker 1:She's been saying that for years and that's exactly what she got. She got her. I don't know anything about.
Speaker 2:DG, for, like I, genuinely, I'm never watching the DDG video after this, though. I didn't know who he was really before Halle, so no, it's just he's like I don't want to disrespect the niggas to me if I was to give an overall synopsis of he is a Major cloud chasing kind of guy. He's not as bad as.
Speaker 2:I think some of the white boys like neon and what's that name of Daughtry or something that little white boy that be walking around with the security. He's not as bad as them. I don't know who any of those people are.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, I'm glad I don't.
Speaker 2:I'm deep in this internet shit. But he's not like them. But he is a little bit of annoying. But let's get to it. The pan African Prince has graced the Joe button podcast.
Speaker 1:Dr Umar went on the Joe button podcast, and how long was the interview? Three hours. I was five hours long. Yes, and it was mostly ish and dr Umar that were getting their shit off. Yeah, and that the front of the show I don't know his name that lights in my money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. Um, I Enjoy Don't shoot me Because I'm a black woman, but I do enjoy listening to Dr Umar speak, not becauseI I do agree with some of the things he says I do, and it's not because I take everything he says like super serious. It's cuz he's highly entertaining if nothing if nothing else, if you hate dr Umar and his rhetoric and his teachings and everything he stands for, you cannot take away that the Prince of Pan Africanism is entertaining as hell.
Speaker 2:Happy Garvey Day. All right, so we're gonna play a few clips from the episode. We're gonna react to him. So this is the first one here, so I think this is gonna be really interesting. This is only two questions I have for any of you black men out here to look me in the eyes.
Speaker 3:Manager that he hired to come in here clean this motherfucking apartment. Joe might not know who the fuck cleans this Son just hit me.
Speaker 12:Are you mixed race? No, or you're bunny hopper.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, but that's not true. I felt this way before I met my white girlfriend.
Speaker 12:So help me understand how you could be so passionate about the black. I'm not.
Speaker 3:I'm not I'm passionate, I'm an objective thinker. I don't if something makes it. You have no loyalty to the black community. No, I do have. I probably employ more blacks than you.
Speaker 12:Okay, so help me understand that you employ more blacks than me, but you go home to a white woman. Why you don't have a black woman, okay, and why didn't you find it falling over another black woman? I? Did that too. We broke up okay, and why don't you get another one, and another one, and another one until you found the right one?
Speaker 2:All right. So this is what I want to ask you, because he talked about something very interesting there. And this is a conversation I've had with some my people. Do you think, as a black man or as a black person in general, that you can, anyway, shape or Form, be pro black, be a pro black leader, be put in a pro, in a pro black position of leadership, if you love a snow bunny or snowman?
Speaker 1:You can love them. You can fall in love with a snow bunny, and that's not what I asked. Listen, you can be pro black and Fall in love with the white it's. Are you gonna marry? Are you gonna try to build something? Are you gonna try to have a family with them?
Speaker 2:That's a different conversation we are talking about the men of color, the black men. Yeah who go into the caucus mountains and build a snowboard.
Speaker 1:We're not talking about it, can you, can you give me words for real, like I know? Ask you this question is I don't.
Speaker 2:I truly believe that you can be pro black and be with the white woman, but in a relationship married to, yes, any of that. You can be pro black for that, but I don't think that I'm asking. The question is do you think, as a black person, woman or male, that you should be in a position of leadership in front-facing if your heart belongs to a pale one?
Speaker 1:I Don't think you should be in like leadership front-facing. I don't think your face needs to be seen. You can be pro black, but you shouldn't be the picture of pro blackness. If your partner is white, I don't need you to be the, the letterhead, the picture, the representation of pro blackness.
Speaker 2:I have friends that have fallen in love with snow and I have many of them that are very pro black. But I will say I will say that it can't put blinders on you though it's a very real thing, like it's not something that it's going to be able to cover all your bases, like it's going to be very difficult to Portrait even a pro black ideology with that, because you're gonna lose a lot of women off top when they see that you're with the white woman. But I mean even the friends that I have that do engage in a racial I mean, for the most part, I believe that they are pro black. I think there may be some that aren't but, I do.
Speaker 2:I do feel as though the leadership conversation you can't.
Speaker 1:No, you can't be a leader if you're you have to.
Speaker 2:You have to be like me, okay.
Speaker 1:You have to love a black woman, unlike a lot of my criticism, okay and Regardless of what he looks like, this is a fully black man, talk about it. Fully African American on both sides.
Speaker 2:I married a black woman, unlike a lot of my critics Talk about it.
Speaker 4:Both sets talk about it All right, but happens to be very light.
Speaker 2:I'm very big on that. Like it just you. You can be we agree on that. Yeah, you could definitely be a person who is pro black, who's prominent, you know, in the black community and in black spaces, but you shouldn't be in any position of leadership. No, the Marlitha came with a walk around takes away from your pro blackness.
Speaker 2:It's just, it doesn't. It doesn't make you authentic. Yeah, when I, when I think pro black, I need to see a man next to a curly hair, actually dark skin, more than likely. You know, don't bring no yellow women around in these leadership positions. She needs to just be a dark skin, brown woman. I mean, I need that thing to shine when she walks out. Let that sun glisten off that brown skin, sir. Okay, don't be. You need to be pulling up like my boy, jonathan majors, real black queen, real newbie. Oh, my god, don't bring him up. No more. It's my name, apologize if he gets a little hands. All right, let's get into some more clips. I think he was talking about a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was is five hours long. Y'all is lots of clips to get into.
Speaker 2:This is going into the discussion of Diddy and Cassie.
Speaker 12:Oh, because if I look at the Cassie situation with puff right, no disrespect to her, but for you to have moved on, to have participated in all of this, to now be, I think, with another man, with a family, and then to come back after you didn't already moved on to another family and say you did all these things, to me it looks like financial exploitation. The same thing I'm seeing with the brother who's now on TV. Who's the fair-skinned brother saying he was molested by a billion?
Speaker 12:It's the same thing with him, even less so because you are man. You are man. So you're telling me that you were sexually harassed by a male billionaire and you kept going to work for multiple years after being molested by this male billionaire. You told nobody, you sued nobody, you never spoke to an attorney and now, way after the fact, you're coming out saying I might reveal who it is. It looks like you're picking up what Cassie left off, and he did admit that Cassie gave him the motivation?
Speaker 3:Did he not just reiterate with me? And Corey set off. I guess. I get that, but also like what can we really?
Speaker 13:really like, take Into account the fear of retribution. Let's just say, separate that from men and women oh no, no, no, no, you can't. So hold on, just wait, Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 12:No, grown-ass man is letting the grown-ass man put his fingers in his ass.
Speaker 13:Man from women.
Speaker 12:Heterosexual male he didn't think that power dynamics coming to play. I do when you're gonna let somebody violate your masculine. To meet that.
Speaker 1:I there's a couple like the. My main problem with that is he's making it seem like men can be sexually assaulted because they're men. And Just because you're a man, you have a power the power to not be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2:No, you have. You have the power to respond with more force, with more.
Speaker 1:Yes, but it could still happen.
Speaker 2:That's not what I'm talking about, though. And then like the fact that and I'll let you finish on our apologize. But the fact that y'all like if a man does something to you and assaults you, you can never respond with the same kind of force that he can, is why he's saying I look at that differently, like as a man. If you assault me, I can get up and fight you like man to man but Also Mel brought up retribution.
Speaker 1:Like is that not? It's? It's the same thing with men and women. You sometimes, regardless of gender, like because of all of the consequences that are gonna happen afterwards, you Kind of just, I don't say, I don't want to say let shit happen, but you just go with it because you're afraid of the consequences. If you don't, you think that, if you don't just go with things, that it's gonna get worse. I don't like his sentiment of because you're a man, you should have done more to not be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2:That's not what he was saying. He's saying that as a man, you can respond to sexual assault in greater Power than a woman came. That's what he's saying. Well, he that that is yes, but they even go in the Tyler Perry, they even touch me, they even go to uh, what's that, terry Cruz?
Speaker 1:they talk about that and then I also don't like the fact that he made it like he probably Christian keys, probably didn't say anything, because men coming out saying that they were sexually assaulted assaulted, especially a black man it never goes your way. Regardless of whether you get justice or not, your career is never gonna be the same. You're gonna be seen differently to us, the black community and everybody else. As a man, when you're sexually assaulted, you're like sully, but I think your masculinity has been taken away from you.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even your decision, but see you're jumping to the part where he telling everybody what I'm just telling you what the things that I got from that clip. Yeah, I know what I'm saying is. But what I'm saying is you're. You're taking it to the point like he's telling people what happened. Umar is saying you was supposed to fight for your, your backside to you, doc. You was never supposed to give it up. That nigga was supposed to kill you that night.
Speaker 1:I don't like him saying that because of it's just different rules, because of just like, in general, all of the men that have been sexually assaulted. This applies to every single man that has been sexually assaulted unless he's disabled. I Don't like that sentiment.
Speaker 2:Whoa, hey, camera on me. Hey, if you try to take it from me, you're gonna have to kill me. You're gonna have to kill me. My blood gonna have to be on the ground cuz my nigga, I'm not, I'm not having you not taking no Butthole from me, my nigga, you gonna take it from my dead corpse.
Speaker 1:Read it Necromancy. So and Then my my third thing with this was he was specifically wrong with him trying to gain financially from this because Christian keys started his his whole thing with. I specifically Stat um Cassie's thing Was towards the end of the survivors act and being extended anyways, so he said that he specifically waited so that people didn't think that he was doing this for financial gain.
Speaker 2:I think he might have. He might have got them miss misunderstood yeah.
Speaker 1:I do agree with what you said last week. If this was Not for financial gain and this was just to make people aware and just so that this potentially doesn't happen to the next man or woman Then it would have been better for you to come out and say a name. Maybe you not saying a name was still you trying to, like, keep some type of career or float so you can keep yourself fed. But it's a sticky situation and I never want to. I genuinely never want to tell anybody who's been through sexual assault Anything about how they should be behaving or what they should do or what steps they should take, because that's fucked, it's fucked up.
Speaker 2:I just agree with umar. Like it's different for y'all than it is for us. Like it's just like if a man punch you in the face and a man punch me in the face, your response should be calling the cops. My response should be Responding back to him with violence. Like it's just a difference.
Speaker 1:I'm getting my firearm and I'm spraying that shit up.
Speaker 2:Okay, that too, even if even a man punch me. And then I responded with the firearm that would in some circles look like bitchy Like.
Speaker 1:The only proper response is that, if you in the 90s that in some, sir, in most circles, that would look like bitch shit in 2023. If a nigga push you in the face and you reply with shots, that nigga Still look like a bitch lost no, niggas is still making fun of nigga.
Speaker 2:Who who sprays, who sprayed everybody up? Yeah, I'm still making funny. You like, you're a loser, like you. So at the end of day, that's, that's just kind of what you gotta think about, like but yeah, don't punch me in the face, I'm gonna get that pu pu I.
Speaker 2:Can say I just I understand that we are held to a different standard and it's our job to be able to Mean something like it can't be like, oh, we gonna respond to the same kind of traumas that y'all have the same way. Where we're not, we can't. We have to be an example, and it's an unfortunate thing and it can't cause particular trauma. That is to me.
Speaker 1:That doesn't mean you go out Okay, so let's talk about that. It can cause particular trauma.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying you shouldn't go to therapy, but my man like but if you can't, you can't. My thing is this you, you can fucking celebrate, okay, the fucking acting shit Don't have to fucking be. Go sell a fucking brick. If the actor don't look, go Go.
Speaker 1:If there is, if there is a particular set of traumas that come with Behaving this way, then why can't you just behave a different way?
Speaker 2:Are you talking about the?
Speaker 1:perpetrator. No, I'm talking about the the victim yes what you just said.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is you have to, you have to defend yourself regardless like, regardless of the trauma that comes with, I Guess yeah it's gonna be trauma regardless if you gonna get a song that nigga need to, that nigga need to try to end your life, that's what need to have. You need to be on a brink of death, let's that niggas.
Speaker 1:A fucking sumo wrestler, that's agile you gonna have to take this boot for me.
Speaker 2:Thank you. You gonna have to fucking try to. You won't have to earn this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, real power bottom.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, alright, so let's get into some more shit that he's talking about. I want to get into this, vanessa Bryant thing, this here is going to be the next clue we got to play is Vanessa Bryant. Well, Dr Umar discussing Vanessa Bryant in relation to what we just said about the interracial dating.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question, vanessa inherited his wealth.
Speaker 12:And guess what? Is Vanessa Bryant using any of that black man's money to do any good in the black community? Let me ask you a question. Absolutely fucking not. We don't know. Listen, I'm telling you, I don't know. Vanessa. Let me ask you a question, but wait Can. I ask you a question. You don't know that.
Speaker 4:You didn't see that. I do know, I do know, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 12:You had an initiative with three predominantly white colleges, some sort of a sports initiative with Kobe's money and Kobe's name. Didn't choose a single HPCU. Let me ask you a question With a black man's money Marvelous Marvin Hagler. He died from taking the COVID shot. No, you didn't. Is his white widow using any of Marvelous Marvin Hagler's fortune to help black folks? You're being unfair.
Speaker 3:I'm being unfair. No, let me tell you why Expecting white women.
Speaker 12:To use black money to help black people no.
Speaker 3:How does that unfair? Because the same way you name these people, we can name mad black wives that got black money from their husbands that did shit to help black people with this Stop. It's my goal?
Speaker 12:No, it's not we owe. You know what the difference is. You know what the difference is. I'm a white woman. When I die, my wealth goes to the very people who have robbed everything from my community.
Speaker 2:So I hate to say it, I agree with him.
Speaker 1:That does happen a lot of the times. When you marry a white woman, she usually the white women usually don't use your money, regardless of how much money you have to help the black community. Vanessa Bryant did donate millions of dollars to all of the causes that Kobe Bryant originally like before he died was donating money to, like his whole Mamba initiative and all that stuff. Like she put a lot of money into that which which does help black people. I think he was wrong on that specific part.
Speaker 2:What he's saying is, and it's not that it helps her her.
Speaker 1:She's not going out of her way to help black people. That's what he's saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's saying like those initiatives help all people.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Meaning anybody can you know receive benefits?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Anybody can receive benefits or that, but when it's, when it's when it's his money and he's choosing what it's to go, what it's to go to, it still helps the black community in a way, because he is being an example, you know, for us and it's still coming from him. But once that money goes out and it's now in her possession and she's making the choices like it's just a real thing that you have to understand. Where it's like she's not going to go, do as necessary to make sure it's understood. I'm doing this for black people, it's it we allow a little grace.
Speaker 2:We allow a little grace when it's one of our people and, yeah, we understand, just like his school. He even says it in his school. He can't openly discriminate and say his school is for black boys, but it's understood that black boys will be the priority when he does school, but he just can't say that.
Speaker 2:So it's okay when I understand, like it's okay when Kobe says that, I'm not mad if Kobe is the one doing that.
Speaker 2:But when it's Vanessa doing it, it looks a different way and it's going to be put a different way. I hate that her, her name had to be brought up in it, but it's a real thing because I can just bring up an example, like with my mom, Her, you know my grandfather. He passed away about four or five years ago now and his wife, who is not my grandmother, who I've never I could probably not even pick her out in a lineup got all of his house and the earnings when his house was sold and pretty much my mom and her sisters had to have scraps to, you know, give to each other in relation to how much the house was worth. So that's why I understand where it's like it's important to at least be proactive and know where your assets will go to when you die, Because if it's going outside of the community now, they can dictate what your money does and nobody else in your family came.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I need to get it together and when it comes to that, make sure that your money goes into the right places If anything happens to you, if your demise ever comes a little bit earlier. I mean, that's nice that you assume it will.
Speaker 2:It's easy to say but in reality, when you trying to go after and get, nobody's thinking about that. Of course not.
Speaker 1:Nobody's thinking about you about to die.
Speaker 2:Nobody's thinking about that.
Speaker 1:It's just now. Probably did not think he was about to die that day.
Speaker 2:And he's not even thinking about the or anytime soon.
Speaker 2:He's not even thinking about the repercussions of what will happen if his wife is in soul control of his estate. You know, those things don't even come to people's mind until you have somebody like a Dr Umar that brings it up. So I mean I hate that it had to be her, because I know this is not easy to have your name brought up. Everybody always talking about her husband like so cavalier. He's bringing him up like anything Right Like this is why I'll be watching sports podcast or something like that.
Speaker 2:I'll just be, talking about bro, like his name should just be. It's like you have access to it. It's just weird to me. But all right, pete Coby. So no, we're still not done with this. Umar was going inside. I know he said it was going to Kanye, but I want to touch on this one because I think this one was really deep what he was talking about here. Like, I'm just gonna let him do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. So that's what you say.
Speaker 12:My problem with black religion is threefold. You take three things from black people that we can't afford to waste money and can't never get back. Number one is money. You take too much resources. Every black church should have three institutions. You should have a school file kids, a bank to invest in our people and you should have a community garden to feed our people Good food. Every church should have those three.
Speaker 12:If you are bringing in at least $250,000 a year in tides and you ain't got a school, a bank in a garden, you a goddamn fraud. I don't care who you are. Remember what I said 250k. If you less than 250k, you should still be doing something, but I'm not going to hold you to the same standard. But if you a quarter of a million dollars that you can depend on annually, you should have some institutions for the people. So number one they take too much money. Number two, joe, they take too much of our time. You don't get your time back. You can make that money back. You can't make your time back. Bible study Sunday service Sunday morning service.
Speaker 2:Sunday night service. That's why Thursday service? Why?
Speaker 12:are you taking all this time? You're not giving us nothing, and the third thing that they take from us, that we can't afford to waste and have misuse is hope. The black church abuses our hope by constantly making you feel Jesus or Muhammad going to come and make everything right when the time is right. And that's why black religion plays right into the hand of the white power structure. You know why? Because it has black people thinking they don't have to do shit, but wait and pray and know to change this and that's why Napoleon Bonaparte, and I'm a fan of Napoleon Bonaparte.
Speaker 12:Napoleon Bonaparte, the white man's greatest military strategist, said what religion is what keeps the poor man from killing the rich? Yes, indeed. No religion ain't number mind control. Nobody has ever opened up a church to liberate. Churches were created to control minds. You can show me a religion or religious organization that believes in free thought and liberation of consciousness. Every religion is a mind control institution. It's not attached to spiritual.
Speaker 2:That's why I didn't mind my name was kicking knowledge. He was, he was out there kicking knowledge, that shit.
Speaker 2:That needs to be said because when, when an atheist like me says it, it's a problem when a black atheist like myself talks about the problems with black, you know religion and the fact that we follow these, even like it's not even just Christian, it's the Muslim movement or all that. Like it's problematic because y'all are, y'all are thinking that because y'all are referencing these, these archetypes. You know y'all are talking about these ancient books and these people from times that couldn't even do certain things that we're able to do now with these. Like y'all think that means something and y'all think that makes y'all closer to a higher spirit. When it's like it's just again, it's just another performance. That's all it is we was just talking about. Even with the allegation with TD Jakes, we can bring out plenty of people who have been masquerading in the church. You know not just Eddie Long. We can talk about plenty of people. We can discuss Creflo Dollar and you know some of his choices. What's the Joe Osteen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Joe Osteen is like, honestly like. I just terrible.
Speaker 2:I sit there and I feel so bad when I see people who are so ingratiated in religion, because I can sit there and criticize you and I can sit there and say whatever, but it don't matter, because you are so ingratiated in this idea that it's no going back. Like it means so much to you, like I always make the joke like yo, this is what your grandma taught you, you know, during the day. Like it's, like it's bad man, like I, just it's sad because, like, even even in my position, like I don't I don't want to feel like I'm shitting on anybody. I just think about with my grandma.
Speaker 2:My grandma loves the church and like it's just crazy because it sometimes it felt like that was more important, sometimes Like it would, that would come into play if it didn't. Like I can remember like middle school having like basketball games. Like I remember I think it was on a Wednesday or it might have been Wednesday or Thursday, but it didn't matter because they literally had a service almost every day and I just when I saw my grandma my basketball game, knowing that a service potentially could be going on, it just meant like so much more than I think a normal person would have had that effect on because it was like yo, you chose me over over God.
Speaker 2:That's why you know what I'm saying. Like so I just that's why I'm so critical of religion. I don't, I don't feel like I need to like, hey, you need to not live like this, because X, y, z, you know, I don't think religion is bad. I think the control that it has on people is just so problematic.
Speaker 1:I think black people holding Christianity as close as they do and it being as precious to them as it is is bad, I think. I don't think black people should be Christian. Oh my God. I think traditional African religion looked very different from this. This was not what we originally practiced. It was forced upon us. Our traditional texts, all of our cultural practice, our traditional texts were burned, all of our cultural practices were demonized. We were taught that everything spiritual, which is what we were before we we did not have religion, we had spiritualism. We were taught that everything spiritual is demonic. And then we were given a Bible to be made more docile, and then we were so traumatized that that Bible was the only hope that we had for so long that now there's there's. There's nothing else to do.
Speaker 2:There's, there's no changing it which is unfortunate, and then you just get into the overall corruption of where the church is now and it's like just to see, like said just three simple things Making sure that you know there's a school for the kids, like when I went, I went to a Christian school and it was a white. I went to a Catholic school. It was a white ran school. It was a white church that had church every Sunday. I never went to it because I went to a different church.
Speaker 2:But it had church every Sunday and Monday through Friday. We were in there like a normal school. They had teachers in there, they had sports teams, everything granted, you had to pay a tuition, but again, they ran everything through there. Crazy thing Even though it was a white school, like white leadership, everybody was black. All the kids were mostly black, which is crazy when I think about that, going back always crazy, like that was wild.
Speaker 1:I went to a Catholic school when I lived in Haiti, which obviously was black leadership, and then when I moved to the US for a little bit, I went to a Catholic school which was mostly like most of my teachers I don't even remember. I think the principal was black. So, yeah, we both have that in common. I think I don't even know how to remedy how close black people hold Christianity in general.
Speaker 2:No, it's. It's. It's not like I, just like I see so many people young, old, my age that have this connection to it. All it is. All it is is like an affinity for their actual, I wouldn't say ancestors, but just like their grandparents. Yeah, you was raised by your grandma. Grandma had you in church every Sunday. That's why you believe in this, and there ain't no other reason you don't believe. You don't read it, you don't uphold it. Only thing that you do is the easy stuff.
Speaker 1:There's no way like if you critically think that you can still be connected to this, for example, there's no way that you can be educated and still be connected to this. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but there's so much information out there and if you consume the information. I identified as Christian. I was raised Catholic. I went to a Protestant church with my aunt my entire childhood a lot of the times, so, like I generally just identify as Christian.
Speaker 1:I don't identify as a specific denomination of Christianity, it's just Christianity in general, until I took a traditional African religion class when I was in college and I learned about what we were doing before pre colonialism, pre slavery in Africa, what we believed in, what our spiritualism looked like versus how Christianity got into our lives, and then it was such a disconnect that I never reconnected with it ever again. Once I learned, once I got that knowledge, once I opened my mind to that education, I never reconnected with it. And it's so sad that the knowledge is right there and, yeah, literally choose not to believe it. Sometimes, if you scroll on Black Christian Tiktok, the priests, the pastors they will very beautifully, eloquently, weave a speech to make you believe their absolute nonsense. But it's nonsense. That's what it is. It's nonsense.
Speaker 2:I used to have a common question asked like because I think it wasn't when I was in college was when I really started being open about being atheist and just telling people like I don't believe in God and you're just going to have to accept that.
Speaker 1:But he told me that openly. I remember that could have went bad.
Speaker 2:I mean it does. I mean I remember talking to a girl one time and I told her like I remember telling her that it's kind of difficult dating Black women when you don't believe in God. And it was funny because her instinct was to just take it like I was disrespecting her, and so then I had to slow down and talk to her. Well, most Black women believe in God, so they want the partner to. So that's why it's difficult for me today Black women when I'm openly telling them I don't believe in.
Speaker 1:God, did I ever tell you about that one time with the client. That was like a Jesus freak.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Okay, there was a client that came into my boutique. She was like a Jesus freak. She was talking about religion, OD. She was like, yeah, and I mentioned that I have a husband and she was like you need religion in your marriage or blah, blah, blah. I just wanted her to shut up. I was like my husband is not even believing God. And then she started going on a whole thing and I was like ma'am, stop, I don't give a shit. I already married him knowing that.
Speaker 2:Why would you even know that I was going to come with us?
Speaker 1:I just wanted her to shut up, and then she didn't.
Speaker 2:And then, like you wanted to show you a total of my husband is a deacon.
Speaker 1:No, I feel like she's so more than. But yeah, I just wanted I, just I wanted her to stop. She didn't stop, but continue what you were saying.
Speaker 2:No, what I was just saying was, um, in regards to the story. It was a story I was about to say right.
Speaker 1:It was yeah.
Speaker 2:I can never call with that story right now.
Speaker 1:It's you said. You were saying that it was difficult for you. No.
Speaker 2:I said that.
Speaker 1:And then you, you were telling the story about how you had to slow it down for a girl and be like most black women, believe in God.
Speaker 2:And then for you, no, yeah that's what I had to explain that to her. And then once she, once she realized that it was like OK, no big deal, I get what you were saying about that, but it just it just rose people the wrong way, like I just remember just talking about being open about that and it just being people like bothered, like they that literally used to be a topic of conversation when people were coming.
Speaker 1:New people come around. It seems like a blasphemous thing for you to not believe in God.
Speaker 2:No, but this used to be the funny thing, right? People used to always ask me that's the first question.
Speaker 1:You're going to hell. Technically, according to Christian, you're going to go to hell.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, light me up, uh, but no, it used to be a funny question that people used to ask me. Right, they used to say, hey, why, why don't you believe in God? Right, and I would tell them because I've read the Bible. And that would be crazy, because most people don't read the Bible.
Speaker 1:I haven't read the Bible at all.
Speaker 2:I haven't even tried People will say I believe in God, I'm a Christian. They will put all this on the studies that Jesus, all this stuff, go to church and then never once sat there and actually read any portion of Bible. They don't even know synopsis of anything. She knows. I read it because I make jokes about it all the time. I made a joke joke the other day that she almost didn't catch. We was talking about Meg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he definitely like he knows mad Bible stories and stuff and I went to Bible study, I went to private school, I went to Catholic school. I used to be tested on the stories. I was in Haiti. No not in the same ways that I was, I was.
Speaker 1:No, let me tell this story in Haiti. Talk about before. When you, okay, you're going to school. You're all in the yard before you go to your classes, everybody lines up. The teacher asks each kid a question before you go into the class. If you don't get the first question correct, she keeps asking you questions. If it's like three questions, you get wrong. You're standing outside, although you don't go into the classroom, you're standing outside. They don't call. They ask you who this man is. They don't call your. I don't know who this specific man is. I don't think that's Susan. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's what somebody said in our comments.
Speaker 1:Oh, did somebody say that Okay.
Speaker 2:Your sock is in the shop. Oh, my bad.
Speaker 1:But um fucking, what was I saying?
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's not the same at all because if they was Drill, sergeant Yall and Haiti, they walk in the classroom 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went to Mayan. It was a private Catholic all girl school. Before you went inside, whatever lesson the night before was in religion history, usually either of those topics. As it was one of those, it usually wasn't math. They didn't ask you to do math questions before you walked in, but if the teacher asked you a question and you got that question wrong, you were not allowed into the classroom. You stood outside for the rest of the day until whatever. Whenever the teacher deemed it okay for you to come back in. But it was up to her discretion and it was completely fine. The nuns would just walk past you.
Speaker 2:I like how Haiti's staying on business.
Speaker 1:Haiti always been standing on business for real Haiti's staying on business.
Speaker 2:They also used to beat us in that school. See, it was funny. I went when I started my Christian school. That was the first year that they stopped allowing the teachers to strike the children. Radical idea, I know All right, so let's listen to this. I only got hit once I was a good kid, so this is the last Umar clip I want us to go over. This is him talking about Kanye West and again, if you're a regular listener to our podcast, you understand that this man sounds exactly like me.
Speaker 12:I'm going to give rapid fire with some of this, because we got a lot of issues to talk about with Kanye as well. I want to ask you about your thoughts on Kanye, my thoughts on Kanye. I got to give Kanye his props because Kanye West is the first black billionaire since Michael Jackson to unapologetically hold the European Jews accountable for the exploitation of black artists. He did it. He did it unapologetically and he stood 10 toes down even when they started shaking down his pockets. Couple months ago. Yeah.
Speaker 12:About the whole of the latest thing and how they control the artists. They control hip hop.
Speaker 13:Can I tell you what he just recently said? I've been, he's been ranting, so he said uh, we're not black, we're Indian. He says that races made up show me black on the planet.
Speaker 12:Let me say this Kanye West father was a black pamper, so I know he knows that. But let me go for I believe he's still suffering from the grief and trauma of losing his mother.
Speaker 12:Still, I believe he hasn't processed that because when you're at that level of success there's few people you can trust. Kanye needs to stop looking for white girls and get him some damn therapy. I believe Kanye is salvageable. I don't agree with everything he says, but he's one of the more honest, sincere artists we have at that level. I don't appreciate the bunny hopping. I don't appreciate the all white entourage. I don't appreciate that. But if I had to, if you said, Dr Umar, there's only one celebrity you can grab right now to bring into your your movement to liberate African people, it would be Kanye West. You know why? Cause he showed me that at the end of the day, he will not sacrifice his principles for money. He showed me that with the Jewish ordeal, and I don't. I can't name another mainstream black celebrity who has done anything close to that in this day. And time. So then you don't know.
Speaker 1:He also, by Dr Umar's own standards, has not done shit for Chicago. Chance has the chance to rapper has done way more for Chicago than Kanye has and he's been famous for way less time but chances in a billionaire.
Speaker 2:So that was his argument. He was just saying, if I had to go to regardless, chances done more.
Speaker 1:But that's not what his argument was I'm not talking about for his um, for his uh movement.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying in general. I'm talking about the conversation that they were having was about oh, so he holds billionaires to a higher standard.
Speaker 1:That's what you were saying. I mean, he was just.
Speaker 2:The conversation was just about what billionaire he would go with in regards to assisting him in his no? No, I'm not talking about that at all. I'm just talking about the video we watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just saying in general bringing up chance to rapper, cause he didn't bring up chance to rapper at all. Chance. The rapper has done more for Chicago than Kanye has regardless. I'm like I understand why he would choose Kanye as the person Chance doesn't have a billion dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and chances have the, the um, he doesn't have a billion dollars. That's the only thing. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1:The only reason I'm bringing up chance is because he was talking about rappers doing things for their own communities before this clip. That that was his own sentiment. Kanye has not done that for his own community and people have criticized Kanye for not doing shit for Chicago, as opposed to another rapper who's from Chicago, like Chance, who has, from jump, nonstop, been doing shit for Chicago. But continue and those two things. The clip doesn't have to do with what I just said.
Speaker 2:That is. That's very obvious. Um, I think this is very clear that stop being a dickhead. I think it's just very clear. He just he's, he's echo, echoing a lot of the things that I've already said, like it would just be me repeating myself, because even with Kanye I've said Kanye is two books away from being able to say the right stuff. He just needs a lot of leadership and guidance.
Speaker 1:Like I said the other day I don't know if it was last episode, kanye, yeah, that's what I said last episode. He always seems frantic in his delivery of things. He doesn't seem like he has a concise message. He needs to slow down. He needs to digest what he wants to tell us before he just spews it out. It's always jumping all over the place and you sound crazy, so you stand on nothing. When you sound crazy, when you can't even it doesn't sound like it's it's clear what you want to tell me, why would I listen?
Speaker 2:And it comes even more cloudy when we have this new Yeh apology that he posted in Hebrew. I'm gonna read off some of this.
Speaker 1:So now you're taking 10 steps back because you posted it in Hebrew. Like you might as well just keep on.
Speaker 2:But I mean it wasn't as bad as John Cena. John Cena actually Spoke Mandarin to the Chinese people to apologize for what he did, so I don't even know what happened there, but just he, the crazy thing. All he did was acknowledge Taiwan as a country, because they don't do that in China.
Speaker 1:But that cuz China is trying to take Taiwan. You saw the president. He was like. I'm taking Taiwan by any means necessary. So yeah, that's what I'm saying, because they don't acknowledge.
Speaker 2:Alone, like what they don't acknowledge as a sovereign entity in in his conversation that he had. He did, and so that's why he apologized. That shit was nasty should really watch it. But, kanye, I sincerely apologize to the Jewish community for any unintended outburst in quotations Uh, caused by my words of action. It was not my intention to hurt or demean and I deeply regret my pain, any pain I may have caused. I'm committed to starting my with myself and Learning from this experience to ensure greater sensitivity and understanding in the future. Your forgiveness is important to me and I'm committed to making amends and promoting unity. So somebody did a chat GDP with that apology and they're saying I was his apology. So this was the prompt. I have publicly endorsed Hitler and made anti-semitic comments. Can you write a public apology for me?
Speaker 1:Oh, has he publicly endorsed Hitler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he was on Adam Jones he was going crazy about he was talking about Hitler being his man. So hold on, he was this is what he was. He said I. He said I'm not gonna say I don't hate Hitler. He was basically trying to be on some Jesus. You not go, say you know because he was trying to be on some Jesus shit.
Speaker 1:Jesus would say he was yeah, but you're not Jesus nigga you are.
Speaker 2:That's what he's trying to be on. That is unhinged so, just to be fair, they did say that those AI detectors aren't accurate. So Okay that's funny that he did it in Hebrew though. Honestly that nigga is such a great troll. You you can't troll better than Kanye like he just understands trolling at, at a, at a really great social level, like it's just. It's impeccable. Shout out to Kanye Yo hope you get to get everything you want, man, I can't get some therapy, but fix yourself you know therapy, bro, you straight keep it thugging.
Speaker 2:Just tell yes, jews man is a Gemini, like my husband and I mean, it is what it is, man, we, we legends in this shout out to me, so yeah shout out to me Prince and Kanye. Oh, my god.
Speaker 1:For the people, for when we get like super famous and the people are looking back and they're like, ooh, let's find out some some history, on on on them. I'm a sage, I, my sage, and my husband is a Gemini, so, starch star chart wise, we're meant to be together.
Speaker 2:All right, so you want to introduce this? Nicki Minaj verse Lotto topic.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Nicki dropped her album Pink Friday to talk about it, and and On Pink Friday, to one of my favorite songs. One of my favorite songs that should have been in the mix today, but we'll be in the mix next week was fuck the club up. And this isn't a thing, but we're making it a thing because we like to. We like to start mess, we like to start shit.
Speaker 1:So, they have beef, but not a court, not this specific thing. Um Lotto put out a track Call fuck the club up. A couple weeks ago with Glorilla, and then Pink Friday to drops and Nicki Minaj put out a better fuck the club up Because that shit hi heels on my kid so say in my titties like that's my shit, she ate that up.
Speaker 2:Lotto was a lot of song was a little bit better.
Speaker 1:It wasn't.
Speaker 2:I'm very, I'm very, I'm very much enjoying Lotto's voice, like After that that walk of shit, she did that trash. She's really been coming with heat so I mean I felt like her, her fuck the club up was better. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I don't also her. Fuck the club up. She only had like one verse on it.
Speaker 2:It was her we didn't listen to the whole song, we did we just.
Speaker 1:Glorilla was featured in it, so she it wasn't her full song, so I I'm not even gonna give her that fully in general, because Nikki spit but.
Speaker 2:Nikki had had samples in her shit. Oh she like this was more of a. This was a lot of song. No, I'm saying she had samples. There wasn't those samples in. There was a sample for the beat, but it was no samples in the like. The fuck the club up part was a walk of sample and that was a Nicki Minaj's shit.
Speaker 1:Lotto's was a sample too. I'm not.
Speaker 2:She was the one saying it, though, yeah but the the okay, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. There was walkers version in Nikki's, in Nikki's version, right. Yeah they literally took his versions. That's what I'm talking about. That sample, her shit was all Original regards to.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that hers was inspired by Lotto's was also inspired by something. She was just the one saying fuck the club up and her gorilla.
Speaker 2:Her track verse was hard to Glorilla's verse was fine. No, her verse was hard she went, she went crazy.
Speaker 1:Honestly, your opinion doesn't matter, because your opinion doesn't matter at all, because these are female rappers. And both these, both these songs are obviously for the girlies club tracks. No, they're not me as a girly, um anything women do as a me as a girly. Um Nikki's verse like makes me, makes me. You know a little bit more than than Gloverland Lotto's does so they win period.
Speaker 2:You know a lot of the next, the next topic. You know what Lotto verse makes me want to do spend money. That's more important than you.
Speaker 1:Next topic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want that, give me that you get nothing. Give me that. I Thought it was crazy that we were talking this morning that you brought up like even the notion of sport gambling, when I had this topic that I wanted to discuss here.
Speaker 1:I've just literally been seeing like who like it.
Speaker 2:Did you know?
Speaker 1:I've been seeing niggas.
Speaker 2:Making.
Speaker 1:I've been seeing niggas making jokes on tiktok about how they girls doing parlays and hitting now and then I've been seeing girls trying to teach other girls on tiktok Um, what the whole thing is about, because women generally have no idea. So the videos I've been seeing from women are them just explaining to other women what parlays are in general and how. This is something that you could even get into if it's something that you wanted to get into. And then men are being like why are y'all getting into this?
Speaker 1:and then that's what I've been seeing about it. Are you attracted to the?
Speaker 2:parlay. I'm not attracted to gambling, are you, I not? You seem like a gambling kind of girl.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not a gambling type of girl at all. My father has never played the lotto once in his life. That man, my entire life, was like don't spend a dollar On something. That's promising you to maybe get money back. That's stupid as fuck. He's been telling me that my entire life. So gambling to me my entire life because of my father, has just seemed like the stupidest shit in the entire world. Like I would never gamble respectfully, that is.
Speaker 2:That's not American logic.
Speaker 1:No, but I'm not an American woman and my father's not American man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not American lot. This whole country is built on a bit. Okay, yeah, if you're not out here. What was the expression I used for you when we was talking the other day is scared money don't what don't make no money. So if you ain't willing to risk, it ain't no biscuit, yeah, all right. So this is how it lives.
Speaker 2:I'm scared money, definitely like my dad sometimes, like sometimes. I remember one time I was talking to this nigga right and I was asking him like man, well, let's put a little wager on something you know you and me can make some bet. He didn't want to put $50 on no bet. I was like my daddy, you want to put no 50 biscuits on it? Like come on, bro, this ain't nothing but some baby money. Like why are you?
Speaker 2:acting like that Like I'll tell my dad when I gamble about something and he'll look at me like that's the worst decision I've ever made.
Speaker 1:Like Just cuz I lost. Yeah, because like just the concept of gambling to potentially lose.
Speaker 2:It's not the potential use of potentially winning.
Speaker 1:I just lost but potentially losing is also. Like I remember one time. I just seems like a stupid nigga thing to do.
Speaker 2:I remember one time, right we was I bet a game and I bet the total, some of the game and literally everything is good. Okay, we close. All I need to do is not get over this and these motherfuckers. Hit a free throw with three seconds left. Oh no, I lost by one point and I promise you my dad did not let me live that down for like three weeks.
Speaker 1:I Wouldn't let you live that down for at least three months.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting there thinking, bro, I didn't already made about every time every time you walking into a little, look at it.
Speaker 1:Look at this looking losing ass money as nigga. Losing ass money as betten ass nigga.
Speaker 2:That is definitely why I don't tell niggas, why, when I win, Don't tell me when you win.
Speaker 1:Show me when you win. I'm not showing you shit by showing up to my Me something you you didn't your wife Okay, but you didn't believe.
Speaker 2:I don't have to believe in you, you do you have to be the main one? Don't touch me. Don't touch me. I don't want to be. You are a violate your wife.
Speaker 1:This is what needs to be said. I can be your biggest hater.
Speaker 2:This is what needs to be said, though. Okay, cuz I don't have an issue with actual sports gambling in itself, but like I think people forget that gambling is addicted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100% yeah. And if you got the app on your phone and you can wake up the fucking Sport, any of Anes every morning you gonna do that.
Speaker 2:Yo, I think there's. I don't think people understand like I'm watching, like even Joe Joe butting is has a prize pick. You got Cam and mace Gilbert Arenas Even need to know they all under underdog.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:Marco, who is he with? You know who he's with breakbeat? No, I'm talking about for the, the money With, or what team man? Hey, I promise you, if you niggas, if you niggas right now are not adding the fact cuz shout out to Roy More, they put that disclaimer and they shit. When they do the sports bed and shit, they put the disclaimer. Hey, gambling is an addiction. Like, why is that not being said? I'm listening to Joe. Shit, y'all niggas is not talking about that. Y'all have no underlining. Oh, this is that. You know. Addiction hears how to get help. Your niggas are gonna get sued.
Speaker 1:You're gonna lose all of your money. Your children are gonna start going hungry. You're gonna lose everything. I saw a tweet you gonna start selling pussy on only fans. Jesus, we talk because you you making parlays bitch. Go to work. Work, no pain in a parlay I want to hit some parlays but I really it's not in my blood, like it's literally against my genetic code, to gamble.
Speaker 2:No, I just think it. I think it's gonna be interesting. I read a tweet that say that the sports gambling epidemic is going to be akin to what happened with the oxy, like it's going to be on that same level. We're making it so accessible like literally, I'm gonna start taking it.
Speaker 1:We should. We need to start taking advantage niggas when they have like gambling addictions. They we need to be a bookie. We need to be on the street with three cups, three cups in a rock like.
Speaker 2:That I used on my brother-in-law.
Speaker 1:One time man I put three cups in a rock and a gun. I had a tree living in.
Speaker 2:I had a trick with a, had a trick with a card that I got my brother-in-law with man. I got $40. I mean, well, yeah, it was $40 off that nigga cuz I bet I'm 20 and then I won the 20 from him and then I made him give me another 20 to teach him a trick, to tell them how I figured it out. So that shit was crazy. But no, I I just think that again I need to gather some more information, but I just I really feel like yo a lot of y'all niggas are gonna be part of this, this, this epidemic.
Speaker 2:When it comes to, hey, y'all are a fault cuz y'all are pitching this to us every 30 minutes of your podcast.
Speaker 1:I cannot wait. We need to brainstorm ideas to take advantage of these people. This is this is how we do capitalism. No, this is gonna be ahead of the curve and figure out how to exploit people honestly.
Speaker 2:We're not gonna be exploiting people, because all this is is gonna be a simple payout that we gonna have to break up 25,000 ways.
Speaker 1:So nah, we just like, if everyone is addicted to gambling, we need, we need to do some some gambling thing in Atlanta that makes us mad money. I mean, you want to be a?
Speaker 2:bookie. You can be a bookie, but how we that's dangerous, but you would a lot of people's money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then?
Speaker 2:you have to enforce getting your money back.
Speaker 1:I'm not low key, wanted to be legal too, like I don't want to get me being a bookie isn't necessarily illegal.
Speaker 2:It's just you have to enforce getting your money back, like I either want to be fully legal, or I wanted to be so illegal that the I don't think you're listening. No, wait, or I don't matter how legal or legal it is.
Speaker 1:I Wanted to be so illegal that the victims cannot report the crimes because the crimes are also illegal.
Speaker 2:But that's not gonna be the crime. The crime is gonna be you having to assault them for your money. That's gonna be the crime.
Speaker 1:Oh, they don't. So how do bookies?
Speaker 2:You don't pay your bookie back, they send niggas to come get you.
Speaker 1:They don't matter, these niggas got big ones we can find big gun niggas on our side.
Speaker 2:I've had somebody call me before. A bookie called me before Because somebody of a friend, older money, like that's how serious they get. No, I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you. I'll tell you after we finish recording. I'm not telling you, but I've had a bookie call me because of Trying to be messy with me still. I think it's still out here doing I'm scared. I don't, I don't know this thing, I'm gonna nigga come up when you taking your trash out and put you into his car and Drive you around your complex.
Speaker 1:That happened to you. Yes, to get this nigga.
Speaker 2:He just had a conversation with me. I told her now that wasn't my business. I told my name with my friend, no more. I.
Speaker 11:Told him where he was no, I set him up.
Speaker 1:And I told him he gonna be right there okay and I never talked to that period, because if you, my friend, and you do with some Illegal shit.
Speaker 7:You have me involved with niggas that I don't need to be involved with.
Speaker 1:If you, my friend, and you doing some sketchy shit and I'm pulled into your sketchy shit somehow I'm throwing you under the bus unless you're Joseph, then I'm doing crime with you other than that I'm throwing you into the bus.
Speaker 2:But no, what I was gonna say, though, I wanted to get into, because even with this whole sports betting shit, the Pay I was going to be minuscule To what they earn right now.
Speaker 1:I can almost guarantee you on that and shem I'm doing crime with you too. Shem, I love you, but when I want to ask you here about what?
Speaker 2:happened with our excuse, the cornhub. We got to make sure you say that cornhub.
Speaker 1:Um, I have no idea what happened with cornhub, other than the fact that they probably need to be shut the fuck down.
Speaker 2:There's like assault on there streaming, so they just had a case that Settle where they're gonna have to pay, like, I think, 1.8 million dollars for essentially sex trafficking fees. So what happened? Was.
Speaker 1:I was.
Speaker 2:I was reading this article about it and what it was basically saying was there was a company who was putting you know adult film on their platform. They were requested by the people in the the women inside the video to remove it. The company refused to remove it.
Speaker 1:That happens a lot.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have cornhub, and cornhub refused to Uh remove the video on their end as well, so the judge ended up determining that, due to what they declared sex trafficking, the job niggas had to pay. But it's just crazy that 1.8 million.
Speaker 1:I feel like, does this not? Does this not open up for a lot of people to be open to, to be able to do the same thing and, yeah, the same um money from them?
Speaker 2:because there's, there's, that's a little bit of money for what is whole. This is the cup, like you I think, about this company was putting up multiple videos, so like I think it was probably like three or four ladies that it was saying that was asking for videos to be removed and they didn't.
Speaker 1:There's like three years, there's literally documentaries upon documentaries about how there's been grapes on On um, porn hubs, snuff films, sexual assaults, non-consensual Experiences and activities on cornhub, and girls have been like Emailing and emailing and emailing and be like hey, this is me, this was not consensual, this was put up. Not only was the activity non-consensual, the taking of the video was not consensual and the posting of the video was not consensual, and it just gets put up. It's so many different accounts too, like it's so easy to just like download something and re-uploaded. They have absolutely no there.
Speaker 1:There are people who like watch this stuff and make sure that there's not crazy stuff going on, but there's so many videos going up that like it can't be caught. And then I don't think they try to catch that. I genuinely don't, because if somebody's emailing you over and over and over again and they're saying like hey, this is me, this is an assault that I experienced, and somebody is not only like did they Do this to me, they're gaining monetary value from it too at the same time, and you don't immediately take it down, or at least like they demonetize it.
Speaker 2:That's the thing they think in their mind. If they demonetize the video, that's enough, it's not, but the shame in the sharing is still there and they just think that you need to find that person's IP porn hub, you need to turn it over to the authorities.
Speaker 1:It's just crazy like. I, like you, don't really think about it that much when it's To be in your terms and conditions that if you upload a video of non Consensual acts, that all of your information connected to that IP address will be immediately turned over to the authorities and you will be Prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Speaker 2:No, I mean I would. I would definitely agree, like you have to kind of be a lot more strict when you're involved in those kind of industries. Yeah, a lot of people are vulnerable at the time.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's happening so often. And, like the, the corn industry is the biggest industry, the most profitable industry. So you, you can make enough money. You can make enough money with Consensual content.
Speaker 2:You can. I mean to those people you can't really say they're gonna make enough money, because how I'm gonna get? You can't say free A free profit. I mean you know I'm saying free profit over pay profit is never gonna be the same.
Speaker 1:But it's just the people who own own porn hub people all the way at the top.
Speaker 2:I mean they're not working.
Speaker 1:They're making enough money.
Speaker 2:It was a million, like the fee was a million. Die If you're telling me, if you're telling the company that we only got to pay a million dollars for Three years of sex trafficking on our website. That made us probably multi millions of dollars. Fair enough, that's what they're gonna say.
Speaker 1:Somebody somebody in porn hub needs to go to jail.
Speaker 2:It needs to not just be a fee, the fees, the fees can't, could never match what the earning potential of it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it's just never gonna ever, because that's the biggest corn site period, for sure.
Speaker 2:And then also you just got to think about, like, just all the different Avenues that they had. They got a live string, all this stuff. It's just it would never come out. But I mean to me, that's why I like to know the women's names, like if I, if I can't go to your name and look up your IG or your Instagram or me see me, or your Twitter or something like that, I don't feel comfortable looking at your video. I like to know your name.
Speaker 2:Okay you know what I'm saying. There's a couple that I don't know.
Speaker 1:I Did. The end of that made you made it better because I was. You want to know these bitches lies and what they doing and they daily, is it out?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. I was trying to make a new phrase clean beat. I like the clean beat.
Speaker 1:It doesn't know doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:I like the clean. I like the clean beat you know, I like to make sure that I'm I'm upstanding.
Speaker 1:Gemini sage.
Speaker 2:We gotta talk about a girl. Tasha came in season the news again. Not for a crazy explosive interview or Be for Cardi B. She actually has a new op and it's a surprisingly not the person from Philly I thought it would be. Kevin Hart is suing Tasha K for blackmail. Messy 200. She's apparently. This is what, uh, what's learning on Twitter? Well, they go on Twitter that be putting the news. I Don't know. It's mainly like fine.
Speaker 1:Like I, can only Identify the black Twitter folks from their profile pictures.
Speaker 2:Like you know, philip Lewis.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, my.
Speaker 2:Philip Lewis, so he has he has the face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's reported the black jacket with the, the background, he's like.
Speaker 2:He's like this this year this generation's D-Ray.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's exactly. I have no idea what that man's name is, but I know his little icon.
Speaker 2:He's definitely this generation's D-Ray in regards to Just putting out information, because D-Ray was like our do for putting up information for like black shit. He just tell everybody miss he does a Twitter, yeah. So he said. Kevin Hart is reportedly suing Tasha K for extortion After she allegedly threatened to release an interview with his ex assistant. He claims he was told he could pay 250k to keep it from going public. So I think this has to go again, with Tasha K just running her fucking mouth and not know how it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, because I was a little bit confused as whether this was blackmail or not, because this definitely could have been done in a way where he could not have got no blackmail on one. You could have had like five parties away. Yes, make this shit happen. Yeah, I bet she takes them on her phone.
Speaker 1:You could have just told mad people who you know run they mouths that you have a Kevin Hart interview like Kevin Hart's assistant interview, where there's shit that he wouldn't want to come out, like, oh you, you got to just put that out into like Hollywood circle, it would eventually get back to him. He would pay you to not do that shit. You definitely said you said Kevin. I feel like that's what happened right now.
Speaker 2:You messy bitch. I feel like she called him like in my mind, because that Cardi lawsuit backed her in the corner. She need that money. Yeah, for sure she's extorting everybody. She going after will Smith, everybody and anybody in Philly. Y'all easy, meek Mill, you next. Meek Mill is definitely coming up next.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's daddy's new power bottom Allegedly.
Speaker 2:You didn't say that two weeks in a row. You need to be stopped. Okay allegedly, you need to be stopped that's your favorite word to you need to be stopped.
Speaker 1:I went to school for journalism. Of course, allegedly is my favorite word. You're not about to sue me.
Speaker 2:All right, you're going to be Meek Mill, going to be suing Miss Reality.
Speaker 1:Miss Reality said this is all alleged and none of it is facts. I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 2:Why does she feel like where does this come from? Where you feel like you need to tell bra, oh, we about to put the business out like just do it. You gonna make money. You out here selling a whole subscription for the year, full price. You are straight.
Speaker 1:What does she have on Kevin Hart? They can't come out. He already put out a little Netflix thing where we low key think he might have maybe apparently allegedly killed his brother and then he already done cheated on his wife and she took you back. It was on video. So he did drop the video and you you on video, cheated on your wife and she took you back. What else do you have to lose, sasha? Can you put out that video? Put out that interview.
Speaker 2:No, she did, she put it out. She put out a short time ago. It was.
Speaker 1:Oh, and we have no idea about it, so there was a is the one who?
Speaker 2:that's the girl who they made.
Speaker 1:There was nothing in that interview that was of. Let me see if I can notable anything.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna see if she got the trailer for it. There was zero.
Speaker 1:T in that interview. You don't know that it would have been all over the social media is it would not regardless of the fact that it's behind the paywall just because we missed that initial one wouldn't mean that. No, but if she said something so salacious, Okay so right here I'm gonna read the text.
Speaker 2:So full interview on Tasha K livecom. For what was her price? Again was like 48. That shit is. Yeah, for the $12 a month, right yeah. Yeah, so do your thing.
Speaker 1:No, was it Tasha case? Tasha case subscription, whether you pay monthly or you pay for the whole year, equals out to the same amount of money. That's all I remember so which was crazy.
Speaker 2:There's no discount. Kevin Hart's personal assistant walks in on, walks in on Kevin Hart with a female employee in his office doing something she knew wasn't good. So the cheating. What have you witnessed besides? Everybody seeing the tape. What have you witnessed though? Personal assistant.
Speaker 13:I witnessed. There's a blonde girl who has this pretty curly hair. She's light, skin, skinny, I think. She's probably black and white, black and Spanish or something. She has like this fluffy natural hair. He bought her in the office and she drives a Range Rover that's how I know who it is and Kevin drives his different cars. She comes into the office and when he introduced her to me he said that she was his model for a hustle heart taking the hustle heart supplements and you know posting them Gorgeous, she's beautiful. And what did you see?
Speaker 13:Um, kevin and I, we shared an office, having bought the entire floor. One side was laugh out loud, one side was heartbeat, and so he had the office. And then it was this big office like the size of this room, and right here was my office, right here was his office. He had a middle table, the conference room and a bathroom, his dressing room and a kitchen. I came in one day I don't know if anything happened, but but there was somebody in his office and I was heading to mine because somebody just put it to you. You got it early.
Speaker 13:Correct. Someone was supposed to put a TV on my wall. Okay, and I came in and I walked right back out and I was like, whatever is happening in there I know it's not good, I didn't see anything, but I left. You heard noises, yes, I don't know what kind of, but it was something happening. I knew it was in there. Who this is boring, he ain't even in a hotel room. He said fuck that I called that hotel room.
Speaker 13:Fuck this shit, and that's why he wanted a shower and he told his designer that he needed a new couch. And I told his designer. I said he needed a new couch because he wanted to fuck on his couch. That's what he needs it, because the one that you got in there is not comfortable enough to be pounded in the cheeks. That's why he needed.
Speaker 1:You know why I feel like it's shady.
Speaker 2:Talk about it.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like, if you're a personal assistant or whatever, for real, like for a celebrity of that magnitude, you probably signed an NDA, so are you allowed to talk about this in the first place? Also, why are you you know that, like you're never going to be able to get a job doing the same thing, so why do you not give a fuck about this anymore? What happened, Like, do you, do you just want to? Is you just changed career paths? Or did something happen that, like you're, like I'm never going to be able to work in this field ever again? So fuck it, I'm going to just take everything down with me, you know? And then, if that's the case, then I don't know if you're telling the truth. I don't think that Kevin Hart is faithful. Obviously he's not. He probably did cheat on his wife more than just that time, because if you're bold enough to cheat on your wife and record it, he didn't report on purpose.
Speaker 1:And that girl had a camera prop up, yeah, so hold on.
Speaker 2:There's some more. There's some more, let me. Let's go on to. Okay. So, according to Kevin Hart's assistant, he allegedly added an illegal shower to his office so he could clean up after sleeping with women behind and Miko's back. That's kind of genius, honestly. That's almost, that's almost on par with R Kelly in the the bed in the studio. So there's more. According to Kevin Hart's assistant, allegedly his work scandals got so stressful that she told Miko about him cheating on her with his attractive flight attendant.
Speaker 1:So there's more. He got so stressed out that he told her about him cheating on her Flight attendant.
Speaker 2:According to Kevin Hart assistant, he allegedly paid a stranger $4 million to switch seats with him during the accident to avoid a DUI.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I remember that, was that the one?
Speaker 2:Yeah. It was a couple years ago, but the one with the friends with the car chipped over, I think so. Yeah, but I thought he admitted that he was driving that vehicle.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's been in more than one DUI, though, or was it after easily been in more one DUI, but that particular situation he was supposed to be, him and his friends was in a car together and it flipped over and he walked away safely. Remember he had to walk at home. That's what the story was. I don't remember.
Speaker 2:No, there was a story, you guys can look it up. Kevin Hart flipped over his car and just gracefully walked home. I think he even had some injuries afterwards, but he just walked home after the accident.
Speaker 1:You know what? Everything that's crazy as fuck. The first thing that comes up is 2016, is him being arrested for a DUI and he was held on $5,000 bond, which I don't think that is what we're talking about. Then there was another one in 2020. Is that?
Speaker 2:what we're talking about. I think that maybe where he almost died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he avoided jail time and he pleaded no contest to one count of driving under the influence.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that necessarily was the point, but there is one conversation where he the story he said was he was him.
Speaker 1:He got three years probation.
Speaker 2:Three other people. It was him and two other people, it was a guy and a girl and he said the car flipped over multiple times and he didn't end up getting out and just walked out. Wow, he was in the car for $5,000.
Speaker 1:And he had to undergo three months of alcohol education classes.
Speaker 2:All right, we're going to wrap up with this last topic, so I've been looking on my timeline. Granted, I am a nasty man, so there are some things that may not be on the normal people timeline. Tram stamps are making a comeback. I'm with it, I'm excited. I say one girl that say like go deeper, come harder. I appreciate this brand, this generation of girls. He doesn't appreciate this generation of girls.
Speaker 9:I do. I appreciate this generation of girls. Listen, I'm his wife.
Speaker 1:If, the first time that we had sex he bent me over and there was a tattoo that said go deeper, I wouldn't have this ring on my finger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if it happened, like because of me, that would be different.
Speaker 1:So if I, on Valentine's Day, got a tattoo on my back that says go deeper?
Speaker 2:you would love that I wouldn't be mad at it. You need to be mad at it why you need to be, if you if you know what I was my favorite, if you keeping that pussy sacred, then ain't nobody gonna see it for me.
Speaker 1:So what it matter? One of my favorite comedians was like. This is why I imagine not going to acknowledge that. I'm acknowledging it right now. This is what I'm telling you. I was listening, I was. I was listening to him. This morning, one of my favorite comedians is Josh Johnson.
Speaker 2:right, so he was talking about this morning the sweet nigga. The sweet nigga, I think it sound like he's a little fruity.
Speaker 1:That nigga is just a man who grew up in the South, that never fought, and he has a fro and he's skinny and tall and lanky and you think he fruity. But he don't give me fruity, he just give me nerdy non hood nigga.
Speaker 1:Like he doesn't give me fruity at all, but he's like literally the niggas I used to hang out with, like my friends, my group of friends back in New York. That's, that's the energy they give. Niggas be thinking they gay sometimes too, which is crazy. Them niggas are not gay at all, but they just do be thinking my, my, my male friends are gay. But Josh Johnson was like man because you said that I could get a tramp stamp. He was saying that, like, married people are more normal because you have somebody to check your fucking nonsense. Like you saying that me getting a tramp stamp is okay, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:It don't mean nothing if I'm the only one.
Speaker 1:You know you need to be the one saying no, babe, you cannot get a tramp stamp because everyone is going to think that you are a whore. When we go on vacation. You can be my whore when we go to the pools.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with it because I know that it happened after me.
Speaker 1:First of all, I'm very skinny, which means that, like I and I don't have I don't have big titties I can get away with a lot. I wear lots of like crop tops, middrift back out stuff all the time. That's what you, that's what you want niggas to see. I didn't say that I say when I'm wearing just like a crop top and some jeans.
Speaker 2:See, this is the hardest part, where people ask, like what's the challenges of not but that that because you're not listening to what? You're not listening to what I'm saying, though I'm Dr Umar ended up, you just cut me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what he was doing.
Speaker 2:It's. What I'm saying is because of my previous knowledge. It does not matter what tattoos and all that stuff you get on, because I know that happened after me.
Speaker 1:Oh, ok, so you don't care what people think about me, because you know who I am in your heart.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm just saying because I'm just saying because I know it was so sweet that way.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to be like yes, baby, I don't care if everybody thinks you're a whore, because I know you're my whore?
Speaker 2:No, it was because I know where they come from. I can point that you had them tattoo.
Speaker 1:I was going to give you a kiss and everything. Let's move on.
Speaker 2:If you had them tattoos before we met, then no, I would. I would be judgmental.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you wouldn't put a ring on my finger if I had a tattoo that said go deeper on my back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I probably would never remember your name, but you would have.
Speaker 1:You would have saw that tattoo and been like OK, this is the last time I'm ever seeing this and her ever again.
Speaker 2:Yeah just with a funny topic on a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. The podcast that went nowhere because the niggas was trash for real. Talk about it 50 views at most. Oh, I love y'all as his friends, but as podcasters y'all were genuinely trash. I hope y'all don't feel away if y'all listen in.
Speaker 2:All right, now we can. We can pretty much wrap it up here, unless we want to talk about me on spaces with Rory and mall.
Speaker 1:Let's you can talk about it real quick. First of all, my Christmas Eve was completely ruined, ruined.
Speaker 1:This is definitely second hour of material ruined because this man wanted to be on Twitter spaces with Joe button, which, like I guess you know. But I'm a very sentimental person. I wanted Christmas Eve to be me and my husband doing Christmas things. This was our first Christmas Married. I wanted it to be sentimental and special. I don't care how irrational I'm being, I don't care. If you wanted to work for the betterment of us, I don't give a fuck. You pay attention to me, johnny.
Speaker 2:Joe post. He was on Twitter space, joe post, he did get on stage.
Speaker 1:He did get on stage and stuff. He was able to speak on Twitter. Joe heard him, mall heard him, rory heard him. That was today. Everybody heard him. You. You got on stage last time too.
Speaker 2:I got it was that wasn't on stage, it was brief but it was, it was still regardless.
Speaker 1:Like you, you still were able to like do briefly what you wanted to do, but I don't care.
Speaker 2:I want to chop it up. Why. I want to chop it up with the guys, that's all.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 2:all yeah, I told him, I did tell him. I did tell him because you said that was for work.
Speaker 1:It was for work. But, for the pod. It is for the pod. If you just want to chop it up with the guys, I felt like I respected less.
Speaker 2:Now I have to make it cool this. I can't just go. Oh, I'm trying to promote this. I was lame, I'm just. I'm just. I'm doing under the guise of chopping it up with the fellas. Okay but it was funny, I did tell him you wouldn't let me buy the patreon. I was like, yeah, yeah. I'm not letting them. I said, my wife said y'all ain't my niggas like that, so I can't buy your patreon.
Speaker 1:No, he got bills to pay and he's the only one paying them, so he needs to save his money to keep the lights on and to keep Chanel bags on my arm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, roy.
Speaker 2:I'm not your patreon, joe buddin. I can't, I can't, I can't purchase the.
Speaker 1:This is my husband, I can't. He is providing for me, not for you, so he's not going to be buying your patreon.
Speaker 2:I can't, I can't, I can't, be out here shelling out the only fans and the and the patreon.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, I will be paying for poor minds Patreon because Lex and Dreya yeah my bitches you're not about to be paying.
Speaker 2:No, just like the major bitches that make your bitches. Like you said, Roy and Molly, my niggas that made your bitches.
Speaker 1:I've literally met them and they've literally shouted me out positively on their podcast, versus flip being a fat ugly piece of shit I made more laugh today, and I made Roy laugh. You want me to give you points because you made a man laugh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you want me to give you points.
Speaker 1:Take the dicks out of your mouth.
Speaker 2:You want me to give you points because you bought a girl, something that she purchased yeah. And the nigga didn't even she bought it.
Speaker 1:The nigga bought it. I made money off of her purchasing that. That's cool, no money off more laughing.
Speaker 2:I felt better about myself after it.
Speaker 1:Take his dick out of your mouth.
Speaker 2:Don't disrespect me, watch your mouth. I spilled that all over you. All right, we're going to wrap it up now, because she, she and her little drunk states. Now we got to get out of here, we got to call he just saying that alcohol.
Speaker 1:It's a me telling a man to take another man dick out of his mouth. Very sober, New York. Fairer behavior.
Speaker 2:No, we got to, we got to, we got to end this. Now she's being filed, all right, so is anything else you want to wrap it up with before we go?
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