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Prepare to navigate the stormy seas of social media feuds and the murky waters of entertainment controversies with our latest episode. Our voyage begins with a fiery debate on DJ Akademiks' online confrontations, but we don't stop there – we descend into the depths of deeper societal issues such as community values and the impact of these public disputes. We'll dissect the explosive discourse between Akademiks and Caresha (Yung Miami), peeling back the layers of personal attacks to reveal the raw core of reputation and credibility in the music industry.
Strap in for a rollercoaster ride through the complexities of masculine perception in the black community, the defense of minors thrust into the limelight, and the double-edged sword of fame and criticism. We take a magnifying glass to the portrayal of religious imagery in media, the selective outrage over perceived sins, and the repercussions on individual growth as it relates to Lil Nas X. This episode promises nothing less than a full-bodied discussion that ranges from sports commentaries to the nuances of underground versus mainstream hip-hop, ensuring you leave with a richer palette of insights.
The grand finale of our episode is a treasure trove of reflections, critiques, and outright roasts. We'll give you our unfiltered takes on the latest film and TV adaptations, including the "Mean Girls" musical and Kevin Hart's attempts at romance on screen in Netflix's "Lift". As we celebrate the triumphs of black artists at award shows, we also ponder the complex tapestry of intersectionality and the burdens that come with recognition. Wrapping up, we express our heartfelt thanks to you, our listeners, for joining us on this journey of laughter, critical thought, and solidarity.
To help men's get his bread back. You better be off. Freak off. Mvp Out of board. All right, I know you were pregnant at one point. You cannot abort.
Speaker 3:I remember. Me eating the commune, which is like the symbolism of like Jesus's blood and bones or something like that. I don't remember completely, but you said bones, I did not mean it to.
Speaker 1:I was like Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Oh my God, oh, so we're going to blame this on the nigga when we got more information. So oh yeah, no we.
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Speaker 1:All right man, let's start, let's go. Oh, we live for real. All right man. So time to get to the music. Y'all know, talk FNF jams.
Speaker 9:Let's go, I'm in. Yes, I cry, yes, I cry. I tell you, you should have just got to meet him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tell you, that's mean, it's a mom.
Speaker 4:I'm in my own time, oh my God, driving through the liquor store I'm faded Bray to hands in this motherfucker waving A's. He's like the 90s, the 2000s. Driving through this motherfucker riding hey Brady's. Having packed, they coming bunch. I've been with the choir on our high. No getting C-nosed. Different presentation to this vibe. You need a keynote Plesi round his motherfucker. I ain't sending Vitos, ain't no stopping shit or stopping licks and boys on GO Dating at the 504. I saved the name it's Creole Dallas. When I'm on the road I get to going TO Dominatrix makes you when she do it like I'm Nio.
Speaker 10:You having an unnatural allegiance to losers does not like you.
Speaker 2:The guy ain't in here official. When that chopper saying you really think that they going to miss you. I spent a half a million dollars on dismissals. It's going to be a hurts, not a verse. If I did, you Got me fucked up. Nigga got me fucked up when I send it past. Throw some D's on that bitch Just about to catalyze. Throw some D's on that bitch Just about to catalyze. We all want to sit a quick boat.
Speaker 7:Niggas want to jake see tight no slate Just about to catalyze. Throw some D's on that bitch Just about to catalyze. Throw some D's on that bitch Just about to catalyze. I never slip, I never fall. A lot of hoes give me their numbers but I never call A real OG. Look and be IP and see a nigga bomb. Then after we hit the clip, they're in her bag. Today I'm going to break you up. I don't want to sell shit.
Speaker 2:I'm going to sell every free shit. I have a picture of my team. I'm going to make this world a full of shit. They can't stop her.
Speaker 7:She's a McQueen. Let's get it Shift on your computer. Just pick the cash out. They had a one MacDola. Call all my bros congenit. Like I love the Jula. I just spent some cash on the pig. Just make some random shmoney. What the fuck you doing? And, bitch, I'm heading to your setup. Just a couple ball of setup, me and JJ. Let's go sit down, fill up the gas and get what's in that. We heading out the villa Smoking fun till bitch. No filler. I got racks on in my villa. Filly bitch, shout out the slides. That's the villa. What a bully bitch. Fuck cocaine shite. So I'm getting tripped. Get your stupid bitch. I'm tired of officer with my guys and get busy. I'm shooting up the streets, not the gym. I'm shooting at these suckers, not the rim. Two, fuck up on the rim. Put two shots in this chair. Damn man down here. Jump the fence. I ran down in my tent. I'm in my tent. I'm sort of pussy through the tent. I was in that boy meth dance. That's what I was With some shit that extends.
Speaker 8:Period. All these social networks and these computers got you niggas walking around like y'all some shooters. Damn but y'all not for real.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it, baby. So you are now listening to Talk. Fnf TV, I am your wonderful host, I am rhetoric and I am with my lovely, amazing, beautiful mixed queen Not in the racial way. I was about to say what I'm in, like the mix and mix. You did Miss reality. Hi guys, what's up? We are back in this thing and we are here in full effect. It's time to get going. We both had some good weeks, roll the coaster up and down, but we made it through. We are back here.
Speaker 1:So much I was thinking about what we are going to talk about today and this morning it fell into my lap. Some days I understand the internet is crazy. A lot of people disrespectful for women, homosexual, gay men, homosexual community, a lot of minority. Internet can just be a bad place. Sometimes, as a straight man, you wake up to someone on the internet. It's just the perfect thing that you want to see. So my boy, dj, academics, has been going back and forth with your girl, young Mayan.
Speaker 8:DJ academic going back and forth with another woman yet again. This is his favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1:This is acting in rare form. I wake up, I'm 2-3 in the morning. Guy Weirdo, I keep weird hours.
Speaker 8:Very.
Speaker 1:And just so happened. These motherfuckers was going back and forth during this time. It was 2-3 in the morning, that was both lit as fuck. We both East Coast acts. I know you on the same time I'm on, it's not like you one in the morning back in LA.
Speaker 1:No, you up at 3 am, with me going back and forth with this girl. So I knew that there was going to be some funny business afoot and that there might be some potential tweet and delete. So I was on my screenshot game Period. That's what I do. It's just what I do.
Speaker 8:So let me, yeah, read the tweets.
Speaker 1:It looked like he started it from what I gathered. Of course he did, because he's a little bitch. He says don't let her talk that money, talk Nigga, why she ain't get on with me when I was violating nigga. Only way on earth she got more bread than big act If she got by selling that 30 year old pussy to puff daddy, a young billion, a whole billionaire. And he added her.
Speaker 8:So then she says DJ academic is so mad he don't got no pussy to sell.
Speaker 1:That's what it sounds like. And then he says get it.
Speaker 8:Sit behind that computer and work hard and yell at the screen drinking Hennessy and getting fat all day. That sucks.
Speaker 1:So then she responds young man responds. She says get in the field or shut the fuck up pussy, nigga. That's how I felt, like she said it. And then she took another tweet. She probably said pussy nigga.
Speaker 8:That could have been Pussy nigga. I don't so then she, we got.
Speaker 1:He took an old tweet where he said this is back in 2018. He said bad bunny or bad baby got mad titties for a 15 year old. So that is a tweet that went around. That. I want to also say that he didn't tweet that out. That was just somebody who put that out there.
Speaker 8:Okay.
Speaker 1:It was a fake tweet, but she used it. She said stop talking to me about D bitch, talk to him Big back bitch. You addressing me, so I'm addressing you, you pervert ass bitch. You fucking creep. Y'all love that creep word. Y'all bringing that back. You ain't better than the next bitch weirdo. Let's talk about you, sick bitch.
Speaker 8:I hate how you're reading this.
Speaker 1:That's how I'm hearing it, though. So then he responds to her and says this fake, you fucking moron. And now he starts like editing out the swear words. Don't you use Google? Or you just can't type? Like you, just write your lyrics. Like you don't write your lyrics. Addressing your nigga paying 50 million to Cassie Because allegedly he had 50 niggas running trains, while he's jerking off in the corner and you getting pissed off. How many niggas fucked you in the freak off?
Speaker 8:Corisha Questions that need to be answered. This theatrical reading of tweets is brought to you by Reddix Ridiculous Ass. I hope you're enjoying it.
Speaker 1:That comes back. You ain't finna. Get online, get loud with shit. When your groupie ass was holding up a sign for a nigga who paid 50 million for freak offs, you say you shit permanently on quiet. I think you meant to say you should be permanently on quiet. 50 million With a question mark. Man, shut the fuck up and go sell that 30 year old pussy to help men's get his bread back. You better be on the freak off, mvp. And he added her. And she asked why are you so obsessed with me?
Speaker 1:Honestly In her Mariah Carey voice.
Speaker 8:It's giving stalker.
Speaker 1:He comes back. Nigga you on mute since the freak off exposure, Then you diss me, don't play victim. How many niggas urinated on you, Corisha? Where your sign at Left that nigga because he got sued. What happened? Where y'all find the dozens of alleged niggas who fucked you in the freak?
Speaker 8:off. Okay, I think you can. You can lower the intensity.
Speaker 1:It's a little one note now, don't play victim now, all right. So then she goes no, you're the groupie dick sucking ass bitch. I'm a talk crazy. I'm a talk crazy to you. All the fuck I want.
Speaker 1:What you gonna do. And then she asked him bitch, you keep talking about Diddy. Diddy didn't make me. I've been had my own and hold my own. Fuck is you talking about? I like what girls say. Fuck is you talking about? I don't need a nigga for shit, pussy, ass, nigga. Fuck you talking about Are those bars? Is she snapping on him?
Speaker 8:I don't think they're bars.
Speaker 1:He responds.
Speaker 8:No bars.
Speaker 1:Yes, all we finna talk about I mean all we finna talk to your irrelevant ass is about Diddy. You dissed me in the wax song. Your group flopped and your show got canceled because your nigga love freak offs. What the fuck else we finna talk about? We don't want to hear nothing from you If it ain't confessing to the pissed field. Freak offs. You think Santana had you crying. Bitch ass. Nigga, come outside, we ain't gonna jump you.
Speaker 8:Bro, she was just outside with Southside. That man doesn't have the safest reputation. So if she's back with him and you running your mouth, I would say don't go outside Academic stain your mother's basement. You, a woman, cut it out.
Speaker 1:None of y'all ain't doing nothing to no one. Stop all the tough talk. Y'all got a history of getting bitched. Your gay friend got a leg shot and cried on camera talking about I'm a celebrity, don't move tough. You got no history of violence. You say your gay friend got a leg shot and cried on camera talking about Santana got shot. I mean, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 8:Santana got shot years ago. It had nothing to do with DJ.
Speaker 1:Academic. I know it wasn't about that, he just bringing it up.
Speaker 8:Okay.
Speaker 1:He man got hit and he outside talking about celebrity.
Speaker 8:At least he was outside to get shot.
Speaker 1:And then he posted a tweet that she said if you wanted to eat my pussy, diddy, you would have had you on your knees. You were eater. She said this in December, so if I wanted you to eat my pussy, diddy would have had you on your knees. How you will eat her. That's what she? Said that's an old tweet. The academics pulled up where he's going at Carisha.
Speaker 8:Oh, she missed the comma. Okay, if I wanted you to eat my pussy, did he would have had you on your knees. How you will eat her.
Speaker 1:Got you.
Speaker 8:So yeah.
Speaker 1:Then she says watch your mouth. This is what academics watch your mouth. Remember this tweet? Stop tweeting at me. You might be a witness in a future freak off lawsuit. You ain't got 50 million to pay. Remember that I was on some Jeffrey Epstein, elaine Maxwell vibes, and then she posted a girl who said that she was allegedly assaulted at his crib. She says is this you Academics? Bet you go lawyer up and leave me fuck alone, unlike your nigga. Police then looked into everything, because everything on video 100% clear. Now, about your nigga? I ain't paying 50 million for shit. I ain't do. What about your nigga?
Speaker 8:You don't have 50 million. You would be in financial ruins if you owed 50 million to anybody or any entity.
Speaker 1:So this is where he finishes off at. That's why I was last. This is at 4 am in the morning. You're about to lose your monthly freak off allowance by playing with me. Now you, finna have. Did he trend in again tomorrow? He wasn't.
Speaker 1:Then you shut the fuck up and keep making that whack music. Y'all supposed to wait six months for people to forget. Then y'all can act like y'all go together. Real bad. Oh my goodness, I love this. I love when they're, I love when act just gets into this bag and he can just start shitting on people and unfortunately yesterday is sometimes women A good majority of time, but he goes at everybody.
Speaker 8:We have factual information that women a lot, but that's the ones that, like he, goes at women a disrespectful amount.
Speaker 1:No, he goes, it's fair. No, a disrespectful like he was shit on little baby.
Speaker 8:He goes at women too much for me to respect him. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1:Again, it's good content. This is Everybody wins in this situation. Grecia gets her little shit off and everybody who loves her can say, period, I don't. And then everybody who's on acts I can just go, he killed him. What about the freaks off the urination?
Speaker 8:I think careers. I said that she liked getting pissed on as a precursor to all of this, so she would seem like she was a willing participant in the nonsense.
Speaker 1:Maybe she was forced to. I think you giving her too much credit Too much credit.
Speaker 8:I don't think. I think, or or she's not that many, or that was just part of her humiliation ritual, more that's, more like, more likely, because she, I don't. I don't see this woman as being For the free golf for saying on camera, in front of millions of people, that she likes getting beat on Unprovoked.
Speaker 1:I think honestly, 360 for Karisha, please. So whatever she got, the sign is what she got to do. All that shit she did. I Very sure that she don't own none. Of that's why we don't see that often. It's because she don't own the product like that.
Speaker 8:Yeah, so revolt is. Do you know what's going on? Revolt because her show has been canceled.
Speaker 1:I can definitely see that that's probably where it's going.
Speaker 8:I know he just lost he lost Daly on, and, sir, yeah, he just lost his alcohol deals.
Speaker 1:Well, technically he didn't lose and they settled out, so they enough, he end up getting money.
Speaker 8:Yeah, but he's just not gonna be affiliated going forward with those brands.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said remember, we talked about it before a lifestyle brain. Yeah, so anytime that you invest in someone's lifestyle, you got to take that shit away when you're got some improprieties.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that, dj Agman, it's a fascinating case with him because, like I said, I do understand where you come from, but he's such he's so needed. He's needed because, like he's the gesture in the courtroom, he comes out, he pokes fun at the, at the leaps in the upper class, from a similar perspective as a lot of regular people.
Speaker 8:I just wish he did it with more tack, because the way he does it is just so corny.
Speaker 1:Oh man, it's definitely off the cuff a lot.
Speaker 8:Yeah, like you can't.
Speaker 1:You can't get mad too much at it because it's off the cuff when you actually Just look at it from you. I mean you can get it mad at the product I'm talking about from an artistic standpoint and understanding where Art is debatable you know, to entertain in a manner that he does it's, it takes skill.
Speaker 8:Be messy without tact is not art to be messy with tact.
Speaker 1:They're showing shit.
Speaker 8:Tasha Kay is more artistic in her bullshit.
Speaker 1:I think, then. I think she does better promo than academic does. I think she does better promo than act, but she doesn't do better of just actual overall discussion. And like him on the mic, like the stuff that he can do on a mic and on Twitter is it's perfection. It's like what you want from a troll internet nigga in the basement.
Speaker 8:No, he's definitely a troll. He's a Lovely nasty under the bridge troll he's the troll that gets the attention from the leaps. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like I say, you granted you like you know creation, people like creation or whatever you associated with a nasty man, so you got to get, you got to get these jokes. Yeah, I was already beefing, but we don't know what he already knew about that kind of situation, the why he was going so hard at y'all. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So I'm not mad at Adam for the situation like the language, all that like. To me it's all warranty because they people come at him so reckless that at some point, why do I have to have the coup?
Speaker 8:No one has it with me, they never had it with me but people come at him reckless because of his platform and how he delivers things.
Speaker 1:A lot of people early on Came at him reckless, not for stuff that he went out and said, but because there was an identity painted on. So I understand when you paint this identity on me.
Speaker 8:He has a pathetic identity.
Speaker 1:I try. Well it's just a whole Niggas and call niggas coons and all that other shit, like it was some slick Republican shit. But you know that's kind of what happens when. But you know, how those, how those boys from the, from the islands, come back and get money, they start voting for the, for the donkey, I Mean, I just keep for the elephant. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:You know how that is. That's, that's how he came off to a lot of people you over here calling niggas, coons and like he bringing out. Oh, like to me that, to a degree, like as a Jamaican man, do you get to say that Like that's where cards you start going in, like you really start to bring in like some spooks and all sorts of shit. When you was out here criticizing these niggas jiggle booge, he was bringing it, he was bringing out the woodwork.
Speaker 8:Yeah, the diaspora wars because people African and Caribbean people it's a lot of the time looked down on African American people, like my parents did it on a regular basis when I was growing up. I mean happens. They thought that African Americans were just like crude, had no class Like it's. It's really rooted in anti-blackness.
Speaker 1:I mean we, and again there's there's a lot that you would hear from the views vice versa Mm-hmm, right, Weird stick voodoo people, I, they would say that about the island people.
Speaker 8:I mean all the time. Yeah. Haitian booty scratcher literally so many times going up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, like said there's a difference. I could say there's a difference between land niggas and sea niggas. So Caribbean are the sea niggas and we I was on my land but uh, I think about way of see. I just enjoy I enjoy just watching act do this. I enjoy kicking his back in, though, too I.
Speaker 8:Will never stop kicking his back. No, we're definitely fine break.
Speaker 1:We're definitely gonna be on top of act anytime any situation arise. Again, I just I don't want to keep harping on the whole him this and on the women's shit. I just thought that shit was funny and I wanted to share that with y'all.
Speaker 8:It was funny though.
Speaker 1:That's. It was hilarious.
Speaker 8:They were arguing back and forth like two bad bitches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I guess it. If anybody has the skill for that shit, is that Like if any guy who can go back and forth just like a woman Is that big boy behind?
Speaker 8:I feel like there's so many people who can go back and forth with the woman and eat her up Way more than act it like the way I got back and forth that he like it's it's. It's not nowhere near what it should be. I feel like any woman could eat her up way better Than act could like any woman and then there's there's a list of personalities I can think of. That would eat her up Way more than act would.
Speaker 1:I feel like feminine wise, because it's the whole, you know, a salt kind of underlining tone. Y'all can kind of say things that's gonna hit a little bit harder, like.
Speaker 8:I'm just saying there are niggas who are funnier than him.
Speaker 5:Eat her up for sure way, but they not, they're not gonna do it though way more thoroughly.
Speaker 8:They're not gonna, because there's no point so we got to accept what we get yeah.
Speaker 1:I got to accept what we get. All right, let's change it up, man, we ain't a little Nasdaq. So, as y'all know, I've been a supporter of a little nausea.
Speaker 8:I.
Speaker 1:Been there for the young fella, so he dropped his, his single, which I was highly anticipating.
Speaker 8:Yes.
Speaker 1:Jay Christ. Mm-hmm. I wasn't mad at it, I think it was. It was some parts that were really low in it. He didn't keep the energy up the way I wanted to throughout the song, so that's why I wasn't giving it like multiple spins. I did not listen to the song. That's good. You're a hater, you hate. You hate Lil Nas X and you're not a lot.
Speaker 8:I don't listen to Lil Nas X's music. His music is not my bag. As I've said over and over and over again, I listen to Caribbean music and Afro beats. I'm not listening to, I'm not listening to this low nigga who's literally making pop. I'm not listening to it.
Speaker 1:So it all came to a head it all came to a head when the song dropped because you know he's already doing a lot of imagery. He did the little. He did the AI art with him like Jesus, which again I was upset because I wanted to do that kind of shoot for my 33rd birthday last for miss, but I'm still gonna do it continue.
Speaker 1:We'll put the crown of thorns and everything. Might even drop some little blood on there, make that shit look real pale. And Then he got at the hate of the world. Like costa, not like. How dare you, you over here, thinking yourself high and mighty, to criticize your peer in this manner is Vile like. Did you see, did you hear what he said?
Speaker 8:No, I didn't hear what Kai said. I didn't even know that Kai came out and said anything.
Speaker 1:Seeing the young nigga like that do that was probably one of most ridiculous things out of all of that, because I'm like bro, you out of all people are not living your life in a way that you can be constructive on anybody and how they Express anything. So hold on, let's get into a little little son, not right here. Shame on you, son not. He.
Speaker 1:So this is what I'm just saying, like y'all will get on here on your platforms. You know Bootsy corny ass talking about he wouldn't do this to the Jews, my nigga, did you not? Did you read the book or do you just believe whatever your grandma told? You.
Speaker 1:Because it's clearly Jesus is a Jew. So again y'all niggas be talking about a book that y'all have no clue of. I like that. Y'all do not live. If God was so important to you, why are you having sex with women that you're not married to? Why are you engaging in drugs? Why are you tatting up your body.
Speaker 8:Why are you taking your son to lose his virginity to literal prostitutes that?
Speaker 1:doesn't sound Christlike. That's wild. Christ was cool with the prostitutes, but he wasn't inside of them.
Speaker 8:Why are you arguing with your daughter on social media instead of like raising her as a father should?
Speaker 1:But I mean, it don't even have to be as specific to Boosie. It's just about how y'all live y'all life in general. Nothing about how y'all give it up reflects anything to this religion that y'all claim. Y'all are false prophets. Y'all are false believers. Y'all are fake. Y'all are truly the disrespectful one to Jesus. You sit here and claim his name and truly y'all are not who y'all claim to be. Y'all are not Christlike. Y'all fail him every day and continue to do it and then wanna shine like bigger failures in your eyes.
Speaker 8:Yeah, in your eyes, the what you interpret as a bigger failure, because you know your shame and your sin is on you.
Speaker 1:I don't even believe in this shit, but I know more about it than you do.
Speaker 8:Do y'all think that certain sins outweigh other sins and there's like a hierarchy of sins, like a food pyramid of sins?
Speaker 1:Well, there is a level of hell in Revelation, but continue.
Speaker 8:Is there? Yeah, so there are sins that are more sinful than other sins.
Speaker 1:There are certain things that will result you in having different experiences in hell.
Speaker 8:I did not know that. They probably don't know that either, though that's the truth. Though they don't either, they don't either.
Speaker 1:They wouldn't even be able to explain it, but there's a revelation that explains like different levels of I didn't read that fucking Bible.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's again these gentlemen who claim to be filled so disrespect. I'm looking at so many people go back and forth talking about oh he disrespecting my religion. Everybody's okay with Christianity being being took down, and taken down a pig and all that stuff. It's like. Well, one thing y'all don't spin about it, because I remember what happened in France. Charlie, what was the Charlie name at a magazine that got shot up? I don't remember the name of the magazine.
Speaker 1:It's Charlie something, you go Google it. It was a magazine in France. They dropped a picture of Muhammad. Yeah. And then the Muslim people did what they did.
Speaker 8:You can go look it up, it was a caricature of Muhammad and that is Haram. But I mean they spin about it. Where is that Haram?
Speaker 1:No, no, it's Haram to make any imagery of their religion especially the prophet. But back to what I was saying. What was I saying? Oh, you made me forget about a point.
Speaker 8:The newspaper and the Muslim.
Speaker 1:Oh no, they spin about it. Y'all don't spin about it. I'm not telling people to, but I'm saying they spin about it. That's why nobody messes with their stuff and we have to keep it real. Jesus, historically, has been used as a character in art almost through the whole time that the European empire has been controlled so much consistently.
Speaker 1:There's so much, so many Jesus caricatures what the hell Even during the Roman Empire they made different pieces of art and work in Jesus, Like that has always been a Christianity thing that was kind of generally accepted.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you can't get mad at somebody for one making a character.
Speaker 8:Isn't it also like technically a sin to like make a caricature of something and praise it?
Speaker 1:Well, it's to make an idol and worship it yeah, but Praising false idols. I mean people can say that you could be doing that with the likeness because of the way that, again, the Jesus that people worship now, or the people that they believe Jesus to be not the Jesus of the Bible. No.
Speaker 1:Like Jesus was in the Bible, was a revolutionary. He was somebody who was for the people, was now for the rich, was now for the people of ruling class. Jesus wasn't a person that was trying to get you rich. Like Jesus was a person trying to fight for the people in their rights, essentially.
Speaker 8:Yeah, but his name has made people to be more whitewashed. No, it's just been whitewashed.
Speaker 1:It's been whitewashed and turned into a capitalistic ploy to give you a 10% at church every year, every day, oh, every Sunday. Go in there, make sure you get that 10% in there, make sure that you have at least a spirit of Christianity around so that anytime that we dictate things, we can always say God told us to do this, and we'll have 70% of the country behind us Because we said God told us to do it, god did so. I mean it's to me like people always ask, like why I speak out on religious things? Because like, oh, you're an atheist, why do you even care? It was like it affects my life so much. Like there still states right now that you can't be an elected official and be an atheist, like that's literally in the rules.
Speaker 8:Because you have to swear on some type of religious text, right?
Speaker 1:No, it's just that's the rule. They don't believe that you're a person that can be trusted in the official office if you're an atheist.
Speaker 8:I wonder what states you get to be an atheist and hold office.
Speaker 1:And it's like six states that you can't do it. Ok, but I felt bad. Text is a little bad. I felt bad because of the pressures that was going on with this, because it got to Lil Nas X. Did you hear his apology?
Speaker 8:No, I didn't hear his apology. I was so upset. Was it a video or was it, like he did, a?
Speaker 1:little video about it, but I was just. It was disappointing because I feel like the reason he did this apology wasn't because he was actually sorry to people.
Speaker 8:No, I don't think he was sorry at all.
Speaker 1:I think he did it because he knew that it didn't sell Like. I think he only did like 80 on a billboard 100. And for somebody like him who the money and stuff goes in, they expect to be at least top five, like anytime he does these kind of antics, and so I think that was probably one of the reasons it was like damn, now we got to go into I'm sorry mode and recovery image because I think the continuation of the religious thing is a little tired, because you already had everyone in the religious Christian community up in arms when you slid down a pole to hell and gave the devil a lap dance. I don't think that was swag though.
Speaker 8:No, that was literally hilarious. I love his antics, but I don't think this was. I think he dragged it a little bit with this, and there's a difference between like satire and, straight up, just like low key making fun of something that a lot of people hold precious, and I think that him doubling down and doing this again probably felt like making fun of Christianity instead of like more of a satirical take on it. I understand where he's coming from, though. If he wants to make fun of Christianity as a gay man, the Christians probably use Christianity in the Bible to make him feel like he's a sinner and he's going to go to hell because of his lifestyle and who he naturally is as a person. So if this system was used to make you feel less, then, then of course, you're going to like buck back at it and hate it eventually.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I totally agree. I thought and this is again why I hate that he apologized, because I thought that was the point. Yeah it was like no OK, this is the tool that y'all have been using to shoot at me the entire time that I've revealed that I've been a homosexual, and I'm going to use it to make y'all feel uncomfortable. So this is him in his shower cap.
Speaker 3:Hello everybody. I wanted to not necessarily apologize, but I wanted to explain where my head at and where it's been for the last week. So, first of all, when I did the artwork, I knew there would be some upset people or whatnot, simply because religion is a very sensitive topic for a lot of people. But I also didn't mean to mock. This wasn't like a fuck you to you people, fuck you to the Christians.
Speaker 1:I don't like that Stand on your sir.
Speaker 3:It was literally me saying oh, I'm back, I'm back like Jesus, like that was like the whole thing. I'm not the first person to dress up as Jesus. I'm not the first rapper, I'm not the first artist, I won't be the last.
Speaker 3:And I know like, given my history with you know the call me by a name video anything that I do related to religion can be seen as like mockery. That just was not the case with this, and I will say, though, with the communion video with me eating the crackers and juice, this is so. I thought that video was going to be the video to lighten the mood, to take it down like less serious and whatnot. I thought that was something that we all wanted to do it's kids or whatnot, but I didn't understand the idea.
Speaker 8:The body and blood of Christ. No, not the body, the reality of what it is.
Speaker 3:You know, it's me eating the community, which is like the symbolism of like Jesus's blood and bones or something like that Body, but it bones. I did not mean it to.
Speaker 8:I was like Ha ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Oh, my god, and that's a specifically. Is that not a specifically Catholic thing? Or do other people do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, the body and blood of Christ is a Christian sacrament.
Speaker 8:OK, I thought only Catholics did that, but for him to say bones was hilarious. Because he's not Christian and I felt like he was trolling.
Speaker 1:I felt that that's to me. He was trolling. He knew it was blood, but bones was funnier. Bones was hilarious. The bones of Christ are hilarious. That's, that's insane Bones of Christ.
Speaker 8:Yeah, lil Nas, I don't think you needed to apologize. You didn't. Because I feel like your audience didn't give a fuck About that. Apology.
Speaker 1:You know what you should have did?
Speaker 8:The people who are still listening to you at this point. Aren't die hard Christians.
Speaker 1:What you should have did was you should have took the Christian flag and then put it on top underneath a rainbow. So instead of having whatever the Christian flag is like a white flag with a blue little corner with red cross on it you should have just made a rainbow, the entire thing. Double down. You have to double down at this point. Yeah, you can't, you cannot, you can't, not abort. All right, I know you're pregnant. At one point you cannot abort.
Speaker 8:I remember yeah, he was pregnant with Montereau, his project.
Speaker 1:So I remember that you can't abort, you have to double down. You were supposed to birth this sinful baby.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I don't think the apology was necessary at all you were supposed to be the anti-Christ.
Speaker 1:That was supposed to be the next single Anti-Christ.
Speaker 8:Remember when it was calling.
Speaker 1:Obama the anti-Christ. Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah 2008, 2010,. It's a good time on the internet. Niggas would never know the shit that we was watching. Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 8:It was a time on Twitter where it formed my insecurities.
Speaker 1:There was a time on YouTube where every conspiracy theory it's actually just the status now, but every conspiracy theory started being like it was like a Christian theme undertone, but every conspiracy video. I used to hate that so much because I'd be like, are there any creative conspiracy theories anymore? Like everybody's, oh the devil's taking over and I'm like oh, come on yeah. Where's Project Wide Awakened? Where's the good stuff? Where's the MK Ultra again?
Speaker 8:Yeah, tell me about what they're trying to do with mind control. What's in the water? God damn, I don't want to hear about the devil. Tell me about the chemtrails.
Speaker 1:The devil don't even make nothing fly Like he just be doing the lame shit. Make believe that should be corny. Yo, I'm tired of those guys. I remember I told somebody that I was tired of those conspiracies and they was like yo, you are the sickest nigga I know.
Speaker 7:That's it.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of the Christian-based conspiracy theories. No, I'm done. Can I have a secular conspiracy theories? Can I not be the only one? Those meetings are lonely? I'm sure they are. Everybody wants to blame God because they're not smart enough to think a little bit harder.
Speaker 8:It's the white man yeah.
Speaker 6:It's not God, it's the white man, if you want somebody to blame blame the white.
Speaker 1:I think our overall takeaway here is a little nods, you got to stand on your circle, my man.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of gay boys at home.
Speaker 8:You got to stand on business.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of gay boys at home that needed you to stand on that business and you kind of let them down with this apology. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not one of them but I know some ones that would have called me and be like bro.
Speaker 8:Why would you apologize?
Speaker 1:to the.
Speaker 8:Christian when TD Jakes is doing the bended?
Speaker 1:Allegedly.
Speaker 8:Like there's nothing to apologize to. It's not a solid community for you to even need to do that.
Speaker 1:And I don't honestly think that they was going to bump. Well, I don't think they are the reason why this song went 80. Because if this shit were to slap, this would have been a number one record. Yeah, it probably just wasn't a good song. I went out and said that you was going to be a generational talent. I still believe that, but you got to. You got to pause.
Speaker 8:The talent has to be there.
Speaker 1:You got to come a little harder.
Speaker 5:You able to feel it, you still got to find something in it.
Speaker 8:I had my husband. He was fucking lazy, though I know. You learn a lesson by just stopping while you're waiting for you know what we got next.
Speaker 1:I felt like I was weird to say that's a wrap this up now.
Speaker 8:Like you want to wrap Lil Nas up no, I don't do that and make him come hard.
Speaker 1:That's vile behavior. Farragamos, you need to stop Alright Misreality. Without that behavior, I think we have to bring Mr Richie to the stand. Boston Richie, are you familiar with him?
Speaker 8:I've been seeing this on literally all of the social media. I saw it on Twitter, I saw it on TikTok, I saw it on Facebook.
Speaker 1:Facebook. Sir, you have nasty man allegations.
Speaker 8:The aunties are talking about this on Facebook, in my natural hair community group, in my fragrance and smell good black woman community group. All the girls are talking. All the women, not the girls. All the women are talking about this.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about why and why my theory is why the women are up in arms about this. But let's just give a breakdown. So a lot of y'all are not familiar with Boston Richie, I'm pretty sure because he doesn't get a lot of spins. Just a nigga. I'm just talking shit. He gets a little spins, he got some burn.
Speaker 8:Oh, is he a rapper. Oh, I thought he was a scammer, drug dealer, very, very like he does the shit.
Speaker 1:You know he's a rapper but like the, unfortunately, his claim to fame right now is the fact that 1090 Jake accused him of being a snitch about a few years, about a year ago.
Speaker 8:So you were snitching a pedophile? If you go to jail, is it over?
Speaker 1:Can we stop using that for women that are matured like physically like pedophiles? No, he's a pedophile. No, that noise, not pedophiles If she's. I'm going to keep saying it, but it doesn't do it right. He just like to. He's just a nasty man. Let's just call him that. He's a pedophile. Can we call him? Can we square that?
Speaker 8:circle no nasty man.
Speaker 1:No sure this was a white man, you'd square that circle.
Speaker 8:No, that square would. Would get so jagged if it was a white man. I don't believe that square would become a star. I don't believe David. Now. I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:You need to be stopped. You need to be stopped, you need to be muted. I shouldn't have gave you a platform.
Speaker 8:You shouldn't have never gave me a mic Never gave you anything.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, like I said, he's been accused of being a rat and he's also now in the circle because he has been alleged to have been dating the 18 year old Tiana Chanel.
Speaker 8:She just turned 18 recently she just turned 18.
Speaker 1:And what? They're? Accusing this man of touching the pussy before it was right.
Speaker 8:So they started dating when she was 16. That was what they said. She was 16 and he was 23. They've been dating for a while already.
Speaker 1:They've been together. I didn't know it was for a while. I thought it was for like a year. I thought he called that a 17.
Speaker 8:No, she was 16. He was 23.
Speaker 1:All right. So you know what I said, right? Remember what I said a few episodes ago when niggas get money, what happens? They subtract 10 years off their life. Niggas thought he was 13. Niggas thought he was 13. Niggas thought he was. He thought he was, he was going up.
Speaker 8:Every day I think about that post that says men should start in jail and work their way out, and I think about that regularly.
Speaker 1:Oh so, oh so we're going to blame this on the nigga. When we got more information.
Speaker 8:So oh yeah, nah, we yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I got excited. Yeah, you got a little too. There are more people in this situation who belong in jail, though. Definitely All right.
Speaker 1:So the internet went awry when the information about her age came out and people were accusing him of nasty man behavior. So what are you doing? This situation?
Speaker 8:Fucking unserious. So what are you?
Speaker 1:doing this situation. We go to the goddamn parents, and I know this woman is going to be a leader of our community.
Speaker 8:Nope and stand on mother fucking business and stand up for her daughter. We thought read the nonsense.
Speaker 1:So her name is your obsession on Instagram already a red flag.
Speaker 8:What you're, 50. Why?
Speaker 1:is obsession. Why y'all holds so pressed about my daughter. Y'all weird as fuck. Stay out my DMs I blocked a million times and y'all making fake pages just to contact me again. You're weird, and if I don't reply to you or even acknowledge you, it's cuz clearly you're nobody. I don't care about anything you're saying. Y'all know absolutely nothing about me and damn sure don't know shit about my daughter, and y'all damn sure ain't clearing shit up. Why y'all so pressed? What's the real issue? Yeah, that's what I thought. Y'all really take your time out of your day to actually find my profile because my name is nowhere on here, and reach out to the mother of a famous model.
Speaker 8:For what Famous is crazy, I'm telling you, I just found out about this young bitch.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? The fuck?
Speaker 8:You don't think that's weird? She's famous because her boyfriend's a pedophile.
Speaker 1:Nothing you say will ever matter. Remember that I'm a Capricorn baby. I'm a fucking goat. This bitch said that.
Speaker 8:Oh my God, she's, a pathetic old bitch.
Speaker 1:But I'm gonna say it again If you ain't got haters, you ain't popping. That's a laugh face, piss face. So this seems like she was cool with it. And you know what I'm gonna say If your mama gonna sell you off, who am I to say? You can't be sold off.
Speaker 8:A decent human being. Like what If your mama selling you off everyone else around should be like, hey, your mama's a piece of shit. Like what? Just because the people who are supposed to be taking care of her aren't taking care of her, doesn't mean you just let her go Well.
Speaker 1:They're in the state of Florida and I did some research. Just the age of consent is Florida is a free for all garbage state.
Speaker 8:It's 18. Okay, so today we're dating two years before that though.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so again, she is the Okay. So the way that the rules work is that if you're under 18, you cannot consent to sex. And that's what I said. You can't consent.
Speaker 8:Is it one of those states where your parent can?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure. Yeah, well, this is what it is. Your parents have to press the charges. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 8:Her mom is not doing that, so obviously this is Because this nigga is buying her Chanel bags and providing her with a life.
Speaker 1:Her name is Tiana Chanel. Yeah, so the mom so the daughter is Tiana, chanel no.
Speaker 8:I'm talking about the boyfriend is probably providing her and her mother with a lifestyle that they did not have access to prior. Oh, 100%. Which is why.
Speaker 8:So she's probably one of those moms that's like vicariously living through her daughter. Oh for sure, because if you're fine with your daughter being in this situation, being with a 23-year-old when she's 16, every mother should be like mama bear and be like, no, this is creepy. This man wants nothing from you but to manipulate you because you're of a certain age. If she's with that, then she's obviously with the manipulation. She will help this man manipulate you so that they can benefit from your downfall.
Speaker 1:I think that was a very intricate thought there.
Speaker 8:Yeah, it's like fucking like Diary of a Mad Black Woman. Remember when.
Speaker 1:Oh, the family that prays. Is that the other one?
Speaker 8:No.
Speaker 1:What was the one that she?
Speaker 8:was setting her up. Family that prays. No, she set her up with the husband. Were there multiple Tyler Perry movies where the black mom sets her daughter up to be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1:No, that's to be assaulted. She set her up to fuck with the son so she can get in.
Speaker 8:No, but I'm talking about Diary of a Mad Black Woman. Oh bro. She did my hair and put me in the bathtub and he came in near me. You remember that. Yeah, that's what it's given, like she's given that type of mother. That was a wild performance you just gave right there.
Speaker 1:We're not about to just overstep that. What the heck you went into the face and everything. You really broke that down Period.
Speaker 8:I should have been an actress low key.
Speaker 1:Don't let Tyler see that he going to try to sign you up.
Speaker 8:I'm going to sign up To a 720.
Speaker 1:The TP 720 deal. You ain't even going to have a break for lunch. Nah, that ass.
Speaker 8:But what was I about? My company already treat me better than Tyler Perry movies. I'm going to say this man.
Speaker 1:I took a look at this girl in regards to my investigation.
Speaker 8:Every girl, every cute girl.
Speaker 1:I'm a strong man so I can resist a lot of things, but I can see where the flesh be weakened. I'm just saying I'm looking at 18 year old pictures. I'm sorry, I can say that that's of age pictures. I can see where the flesh would be weak. I'm not condoning it. You're a vile, I'm not condoning it.
Speaker 8:You're a vile disgusting. They wasn't looking like this when I was 18. I'm going to tell you that You're a shit man.
Speaker 1:They was not looking like this when I was 18.
Speaker 8:You need to get your shit together.
Speaker 1:There was probably like when I was in college, there was probably one girl. I'm disgusted. It was one girl at my college who looked anything close to the way this girl looked. One, and she ended up being pregnant by a rapper.
Speaker 8:There's always girls who look older than what they are. I'm not talking about Like literally. There was a girl I would say she was in sixth grade. No, this was sixth grade. She was Titty's ass. That's not her fault, yeah, it's never their fault, though. They just look like that, but it don't change the fact that they're still young as shit and you have to discern, as a grown ass man, whether this is an overly developed young woman, a young girl or not.
Speaker 1:We talked about this. We're going to talk about this a little bit later in our Mean Girls review but these 18 year olds, they ain't 18 like they used to. These shorties is 18, like the 21 year olds. When I was coming up, because the 18 year old girls I was around, they was not pulling up like this the cat suits, the weed, the wigs, the makeup. It wasn't like that. The difference between 2010 holds was not like that.
Speaker 8:No, they're not. You're 100% right. The difference between teenage girlhood in the 90s, the 2000s, the early 2010s versus now is social media, your access to how to learn how to look older, how to gain that skill faster than I did. In 2010,.
Speaker 1:They was just learning how to put the makeup on at 18.
Speaker 8:I had to over time like, especially with my skin tone as a black girl like I had to, over time, learn how to do my makeup. First of all, we started out with CVS those full beauty kits with everything in it your eyeshadows, your blushes the whole thing came all together. The girls now are going to Sephora and they're getting full beauty kits. With Fenty, they're getting their drunk elephant skin care. The middle school girls are starting out where we started out as late high school college, which is absolutely insane. I think it's because of all of the influencers that they watch. You're not necessarily, as a girl, discerning between who is a 25, 27-year-old influencer and a 15-year-old influencer. You're following the 25, 30-year-old girl, the woman, and she's giving you tips on how to do your hair, how to do your makeup, how to dress. You're following that as a 13-year-old. I think that heavily plays a part in why the girls look so much older than they do now. I was going to say that.
Speaker 8:Next, it definitely has to do with how overly processed our food is too. There are GMOs and hormones in everything. Our levels of hormones and things are probably super out of whack. Puberty is looking different as time goes by. It's absolutely insane. The skin care is crazy. The makeup skills are on par with women who are 10 years older than them. They know all of the skills and then they have all of the little things. Go on TikTok. You know what leggings to put on to make your ass look two times bigger. You got the little BBL jacket to make your waist look super small. They're concerned with things that we were not concerned about.
Speaker 1:These young niggas can't even, they're not even going to have the experience of hitting the girl that don't know she's cute, yet Y'all don't even have that experience no more. When you used to see that you'd be like, oh, she don't even know what You're taking the one of your home girl. She hit her with this and that now she a1. That don't even happen no more. It used to be sometimes at an 18-year-old young man you was in something that you knew you had no business being in.
Speaker 8:Unless she poor, unless she got no money, and that's why she don't know, that's why she's not at her level of attraction.
Speaker 1:Now you're manipulating a young woman. It used to be like an 18, she didn't know she was cute, yet she didn't know she was wearing bigger pants, so she didn't know she had that ass. And then you over here, vanessa, dropped them and you were like, oh shit, I didn't got me a 10 piece for the price of a five. Like for real, I'm not supposed to be in this. Yeah, like you looking at your bank account after you hit her and you like, oh, this don't match up at all. Like I'm not supposed to be in women this attractive with the amount of money that's in my account right now. But it can't happen for these young niggas, no more. It cost these chicks cost too much right now.
Speaker 8:I think the girls want to look older, but then I think there's a different thing that's happening with the younger boys that are growing up On social media. I feel like they think that they have to have way more money.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about the next topic. Then they kind of bleed into it.
Speaker 8:Okay, do you want me to pause this?
Speaker 8:No, you can say what you about it I think the younger boys of this generation think that they need to be further along in life than they are and they think that they need to have more money. They think that they need to be driving a specific type of car, they need to be wearing this and that they need to be investing in Bitcoin and they need to have this type of platform and this and that, and you need to be a boss and you need to have a portfolio, and this is your 14.
Speaker 1:Hold on. That was a shot, though. What you just said, no, but like that's what.
Speaker 8:Like the. I've seen this regularly on social media Like no, I'm just saying that like little boys are aspiring to things that like, should you shouldn't be as like maybe you can have, like a poster of a Ferrari In your room, but actually thinking that you should have a Ferrari at 18 is crazy.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I mean that for sure. I'm just talking about because we talked about earlier this morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah you try to say the Bitcoin thing, that was a shot, but but no, it goes into what I wanted to talk about with that, because you have these images like where we talked about little RT and now you have a new guy that just came out, 11 year old, fng, little King. He was just in the club for his 11th birthday, had a little baby in the club with him, had a belief. He's a finesse two times already, so finesse two times. Was in the club. Drake was in the club with him. Yup.
Speaker 1:Y'all should be ashamed of yourself because y'all know y'all would not have your sons up there in that club, just like that.
Speaker 8:Drake, your son, your son is in Europe, gallivanting around the world, learning a bunch of different languages and skills, playing the piano.
Speaker 1:And I know you wasn't trying to get a verse.
Speaker 8:Trying to try to make make this little boy what what you call it he's. He's literally your. You're exposing your son to culture and things that will grow his cognitive functioning, while supporting the detriment of another little black boy, which is absolutely insane, like this boy is in the club you know folks is drinking. Who let this boy?
Speaker 1:in the club, the same folks that was letting by on the club when he was little. If you pay the post enough, they're gonna let it. They're gonna say he just a performer in the act.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For tonight they're gonna do whatever little things they got to do to bypass the rules, but, like all y'all black men doing this are failing our community. Like straight up, I think with and it goes back to what you said about having this lifestyle that they want to aspire to. And then you have these guys that literally do that to these little kids. They have no concept of cloud of how this is gonna be up and down thing, how you actually got to have talent, it's really to do this and they don't understand none of that.
Speaker 1:And then you have guys who try to live this lifestyle so much that you end up having a little perk who, if you're not familiar and Atlanta, he just got sentenced to a life sentence because he killed a 12 year old At the local shopping. How old is little perk?
Speaker 8:16 like you, have a life sentence.
Speaker 1:But he did this, this, he got that. He was 16 when he got the sentence, so he's 14 when it happened.
Speaker 8:And the boy was 14 and killed a 12 year old. Yes.
Speaker 1:Like there's some street beef type shit.
Speaker 8:Like if a 14 year old has has beef with a 12 year old. It should go no further than like playground fighting.
Speaker 1:These boys are at a local popular shopping area and they get into it and get people shot.
Speaker 8:Not, they were why. Why does either of these boys, regardless of which one of them had guns, if both of them had guns or not? Because if you look at, why do they have guns?
Speaker 1:because if you look into it, some of the boys that was involved are in popular Atlanta rappers brothers. They're involved and that's why they having all these little sub beefs and shit going on, they're trying to be like the bigger rappers that they see. They're talking about spinning, talking about oh, they bought that life, and when it comes down to it they're going to be dumb and crash out. And then y'all niggas, y'all drakes, y'all little babies, y'all just forget about them.
Speaker 8:Speaking a little baby. Y'all gonna put some a little perk book.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 8:No, y'all just go forget about him. He's just going to spend the rest of his life in prison and then that's it. So I wanted to bring this up. When I saw this topic, I thought it was really interesting when it comes to little baby and like, specifically, you remember when that video came out of his son.
Speaker 1:What is with the baby mama? Yeah, with Jada, and it's every juice. Everyone was like oh he's you know, I saw that I had that so wrong. I didn't get what people were talking about. He just looked like a little boy, didn't he? I watched it and just thought people were saying, because he, they were trying. I thought the whole conversation was about her exploiting him, doing the little prank because he drank something that wasn't a juice and made a little face or something Right.
Speaker 8:No, they were saying that the boy was a little too sassy.
Speaker 1:Yes, I didn't realize that was the conversation. I thought the conversation was about her exploiting his son.
Speaker 8:Nobody cares about when parents exploit their children. They never do.
Speaker 1:And that was another part. I wanted to tell you about this before you get on. Your point was about how we so often little boys we just treat them with. So half hazard, yes.
Speaker 8:It's disgusting. We don't protect little black boys the way I don't even want to say we don't protect little black boys the same way we protect little black girls.
Speaker 1:We protect black boys in a different way than we protect the reason why I say that is because if those same men had a female rapper that was 11 year old in the club, that would be insane.
Speaker 8:We would all call them disgusting monsters. They would be like like what happened to this little girl this night. Around all of these men but nobody says that about this little boy.
Speaker 1:What could have happened to them? What could have happened, but literally what could have happened to him, what could have been introduced to him, what could have been going on in that club? People get shot in the club Like that's really fucked up and it's like nobody cares, nobody looks at it like that, nobody wants to have any empathy. And then they become the third year old nigga jumping over the fucking bailiff to get to the judge and they all say, oh, I'm glad these niggas in jail because they crash out goofies when y'all didn't give a fuck about them the entire time they were growing up, during their development.
Speaker 8:When their development was getting fucked up, you encouraged it. When it was skewed.
Speaker 1:You thought it was funny, you thought it was cute. You put them in all the little Gucci, you dressed them like the drug dealers and all that shit when they was little. Then, when they grew up, they want to keep imitating that and then you sit here and fail them in that manner because you want to encourage bad behaviors. I'd rather you not be around and encourage bad behaviors.
Speaker 8:I just want to point out the difference between the reception of Lil Baby and Jada son, when they thought that he might have been a little too sassy and all of like, I saw more uproar and people up in arms about like she's raising him to be too feminine and he might eventually be gay and people were so concerned about that because that would be so detrimental to his, to his life.
Speaker 8:And then Lil Baby had a 11 year old in the club with him, around what we can probably assume alcohol, definitely, drugs, definitely like sexually explicit behavior, definitely that just generally happens in the club. Even if it's not happening with the people around him, he can probably just look around and see it happening. So the fact that like y'all were not equally as mad with his childhood being tainted as y'all were upset with with, with uh, loyal, potentially like what being feminized in some way, shape or form, which I don't, which I don't agree with at all but like y'all are really genuinely concerned with the wrong things because so what if, with the little boy grows up gay? That's not gonna, that's not gonna.
Speaker 1:Well, it happens when Fuck him up. It happens when the people who are the counterculture are just the counterculture for the sake of being the counterculture. Like we have folks like we said. There's the Cat Williams, who criticized the feminization of black men as an attack on their manhood. But then you also have the other people who would then use those same ideals and rhetoric and Keep that.
Speaker 8:I have a point about. I just wanna bring up the feminization of the black man point after this continue.
Speaker 1:No, but I said they use that point to try to push this narrative.
Speaker 1:That then becomes anti you know, gay people, anti-LBGT to try to, under the guise of oh, they're just trying to control our thought patterns, and try like do you idiots here, y'all self say, when I don't agree with your lifestyle, it's telling somebody you don't agree with who they are as a person? That is the same thing, it's the same shit. And it's like we've gotten so pushed out because it's semantics, Because people's monies have been affected and instead of trying to learn how to be better and trying to actually have a community where we are forgiving and teaching, we have a community that shames and punishes and that only makes an individual want to then double down Because you have to. You gotta find those people with you who are gonna double down with you, and then you create your hive and that you grow. So then, when you call out somebody on their behavior or the fact that they use their craft for their tool in one particular manner, you have so many warriors going to bat for them.
Speaker 8:So when you because this is a topic that I just randomly, I just wanted to ask you about, because it's something that I just randomly thought about in the past couple days with everything that's been going on with the whole dress conversations and things of that nature we did talk about it last week so with there's a theory that there is an agenda to feminize black men, right.
Speaker 8:So with the dresses and with more imagery of homosexual black men in the media, people have been thinking that there's this whole agenda to feminize the black man. On the same coin, literally same token, on the other end, we can say that the black man has been demonized, the black man has been made to seem more aggressive, more dangerous and like you've been made to fear the black man. So what do you think? I don't know what. My question is what do you think is the imagery that outweighs the other? Like what do you see more? What do you think the point is behind the imagery? And like, what do you think is happening? Because do you think black men are being more feminized or do you think black men are being demonized?
Speaker 1:Because I see both, I think that there is. I mean, it is both. At the end of day, there is gonna be both.
Speaker 8:And what's the agenda? If we analyze all of this together, like, what do you think is happening? Because I can't. I can't like gather the conspiracy behind both the things, being that they're both such opposite, like imageries. Like what do they want us to think?
Speaker 1:I mean, at the end of the day, what you're kinda doing, you're convoluting two kinds of different factions, yeah, but it is used in an overall marketing. My main kind of takeaway just kind of from what?
Speaker 8:you presented. What two different factions do you think I'm convoluting?
Speaker 1:Like the people who are homophobic, and then the people who take certain racial ideologies and certain racial principles that have happened over the decade and apply it to modern day. So there is certain behaviors that can be viewed through that, but they aren't always like like they think that them putting you in a dress or make you do feminine things is what is emasculating you. But it's yo. When I tell you to talk about a company or something or talk about me in a certain way, you're gonna do it. That's control and we're gonna talk about that in a little bit with Stephen A Smith.
Speaker 1:But that's control when a narrative can be start or you will defend something, not because it's the truth or a fact, but because the person who is saying it is doing it. And I think that's where those two kind of worlds convoluted, where it's like, yeah, there is some historical fact to this, but a lot of it's just coming from the fact that a lot of black men have been radicalized by the right and a lot of right information and talking points. And now that's where the homophobia has kind of really seeped in, especially when you bleed into the religion, like we just talked about, and then you believe in all these other paranoia ideas.
Speaker 1:So you think the homophobia, the feminization of the black man argument is rooted more in whiteness than it's rooted in homophobia but it's been perverted through our history of racism, to then kind of turn into a different way where it's like now you're applying this to men who actually just feel like this, rather than saying I'm forcing two strong men who don't identify this and are against their idea, Like we try to act, like being gay is against our religion, Like not just religion, and we're since like Against our nature.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we try to act like Like black men are not supposed to be gay Like.
Speaker 8:this is something that was imposed upon them by the white man. Yeah, like it was pushed on us Like they would never be gay if it wasn't for the white man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like there isn't stuff in Egypt that shows people were men who loved each other in Egypt, Like there's literally Before. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Pre-colonialism there was mad homosexuality in gay Niggas been gay, I mean Niggas been gay.
Speaker 1:You go through the Roman Empire, you go through Europe and all that stuff you can go down through Africa, Like there's plenty of times of doctrine where men have had so much experience and so much time and so much stuff on their hands that they experimented with everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's just like it wasn't looked at, like they were less than because they could just have somebody off. You Like easy, like there wasn't no discussion about it, but no like, in regards to that, it's a lot of paranoia. It's a lot of different Cause. It's kind of like where you take truth and mix a little bit of your lie with it. Where you take yeah, there was buck breaking back in slavery, but that's not necessarily everything that's happening, because there's also a history of men in dress being funny. So again, like I don't wanna get too much too, cause we did talk about it in our last episode, yeah, but no, it's definitely more so pushed from a homophobia agenda. That's what people think they're standing on, all right, so we gotta get into this. So, as we know, mlk Day just passed, shout out to a legend and an OG, and RIP Big Martin Luther.
Speaker 1:I came from a time where, on Martin Luther King Day, white people would start misusing the identity of Martin Luther King for their own agenda. Oh my God, like they would misinterpret his message and talk about. He died for you know yeah. This man was murdered For all the children. So all the children can be judged by the color, the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Speaker 8:Yeah, all that jazz. So the white children and the black children can play together in the sandbox.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you now I had a dream, but we need to talk about these new Caucasians.
Speaker 8:That's Jonathan the Major's good. Fuck white women and get sued by them.
Speaker 1:But I need to speak about these new Caucasians. You new Caucasians are different. Y'all don't follow the code. Y'all on this red pill identity and it got y'all set trippin' New whitey. This is a new white man, A new white man we have on us. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 8:Ooh I like that little jingle Do that one more time.
Speaker 1:I can't do that. That was a mystery one, oh, okay.
Speaker 8:We never did that before. I like that one.
Speaker 1:That was a risk and no biscuit right there. But no, we got to get into it. So one of our ops Pearly, pearly Things she has Terrible white woman. She had some disrespectful things to say. She said the red pill is Dr King was a race hustler, a vile lady. But that wasn't it. I know you should have stopped saying things, pearly.
Speaker 8:Things Her.
Speaker 1:Caucasian compadres got right behind her. Matt Walsh, director. He's part of the documentary for I'm what Is A Woman, the transphobic documentary he says a lot of people are upset about the criticism in MLK Junior today, but these floodgates opened a long time ago. Our historical heroes have been torn down. We've been told to focus on their sins and shortcomings. Columbus has been labeled a genocidal killer, Jefferson was nothing but a slave owner and et cetera. Well, if this is the standard, then we have to talk about. Mlk was a communist, a plagiarist, an adulterer, an abuser and more. If you don't want to hear this, you shouldn't have spoken up louder in the fence of men like Christopher Columbus, and you did it. But you did it. And so here we are. One standard for all. Like it or not, Matt Walsh, you're an idiot.
Speaker 1:And you're A dramatic reading brought to you by Reverend, and you're pushing FBI lies and I won't have it and I won't stand for it and I'm not done.
Speaker 8:I didn't know that the rumor that Martin Luther King was cheating on his wife with white women was an FBI lie, but I'm sorry for pushing that narrative.
Speaker 1:Apologize to Bernie. What's his daughter name? B-king.
Speaker 1:I know what starts with a, b, I think it does. And then there is Charlie Kirk, who was MLK, a myth that was created and has grown totally out of control. This nigga was a full human being. While he lived, while he was alive, most people disliked him, yet today he's the most honored and worshiped, even defiled, person in the 21st century. Today we're going to tell the truth and explain how the myth was born. Happy Monday. I feel like there was an attack on the Caucasians on the big end, and I don't like it. I'm not for it and I'm not going to accept it. Pearly things and you and your white men, you will be stopped.
Speaker 8:Did you know that Pearly things, apparently, is dating a black man Like her, black man is black Well he's probably a UK black man.
Speaker 1:Those are top tier, uncle Tom's.
Speaker 8:Wow, I'm putting it out there, clipping. That, that's a clip. That's a clip. Uk black man. Generally, uncle Tom's, I'm going to put it out there the dark skinned girlies have it much harder than in the UK, than we have it here.
Speaker 1:We have it hard. I mean they have it rough out there. They not looking in that direction at all. Period, like at all If there's a and there's no social pressures, the same way.
Speaker 8:Like the brown paper bag test is even lighter in the.
Speaker 1:UK than no, it is the milk cup test. Are you darker than a cup of milk? I'm not with it.
Speaker 8:It's a computer paper test.
Speaker 1:It is a scratchy paper test.
Speaker 8:Yeah, receipt paper test.
Speaker 1:UK Negroes are vile, yeah, and that's why I hate when you.
Speaker 8:Except James and Foo Hod, and you know I hate when you listen to Shout out to James and Foo Hod.
Speaker 1:And you know I hate when you listen to that UK content because they go.
Speaker 8:Usually James and Foo Hod and Foo to Sylam because I love Chucks and Philly and Nella, how you gonna do it.
Speaker 1:Country has stick niggas. Wow, no, my stick niggas and I'm not gonna be going for this MLK any longer Alright. I understand some of us may have had the affliction of the white woman and I know what. I forgive them for. What do you mean us? I said some of us may have had the affliction of the white woman you mean some of them. Some of us may have had the affliction of the white woman. You mean some of them. Some of us may have had the affliction of the white woman. Some of them.
Speaker 1:I can't hey, I've had some spicy white in my day, baby. Wow, I'm sorry, but y'all are not gonna disrespect MLK. I'm ashamed. You see, that's what I'm talking about. Agent of white supremacy. You worried about some, some improprieties, when I'm trying to defend a honorable black Negro.
Speaker 8:Well, the improprieties are propriety. That's what I'm too focused on.
Speaker 1:That's what y'all are too focused on, and it is vile behavior. We can't get out of racism without our women, and that's the truth. And if y'all can't be agents of white supremacy, let's move on. Fair enough, all right. So I'm probably gonna get off a little bit on this one, because I'm fortunate. Oh, a little bit. I just went off, that's not something.
Speaker 1:I usually do talking about these local toms and I'm about to defend one Kinda. So bear with me. Ladies and gentlemen, y'all know the man, jason Whitlock, steven A Smith. If y'all not aware, I'm just gonna start off with just a little bit of what Steven A had to say about Mr Whitlock, because it's pretty much happened. There's a beef between them and I'm gonna explain it in just a little bit. But I just feel like what he said was Peak television, like it was peak YouTube. Uh, mr Steven A keeps taking away for us. For a moment.
Speaker 10:So you know what. I'm gonna start off with just a little bit of what Steven A had to say about Mr Whitlock. I'm gonna start off with just a little bit of what Steven A had to say about Mr Whitlock. Now let me just talk about that, Cause I got receipts, I got to email Want me to talk about that Now, just for everybody that wants to understand. How could this possibly be?
Speaker 1:Because once upon a time I actually tried to speak up for this damn cretin.
Speaker 10:Why would I do that, ladies and gentlemen? Why? Because sometimes, as black folks, we get in our own way. We think that all of us must be of one monolithic thinking. That we need to be completely and totally aligned Okay, and any deviation from that brings into question our quote-unquote blackness.
Speaker 1:Alright, so we're gonna cut that out. Cut that a little short. That nigga went on for like four minutes on that nigga.
Speaker 8:Yeah, Steven A likes to hear himself talk.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, for sure, he's a huge show going.
Speaker 1:Alright, so we got to kind of have to spark. I want to give everybody a little bit, just so they know what occurred here. So these two gentlemen have had long standing beat. Okay, this is something that has been. If you are familiar with the sports journalism world has been something that Jason Whitlock has been open with his shit. Talk of Steven A. He will go at him, call him every kind of plant, anytime is necessary. Steven A has always took the I'm holier than now approach. I'm not saying your names. This was the first time he addressed it, so let's talk about what was the trigger?
Speaker 1:bitch. We got to talk about what was the trigger. Okay, so Steven A has just dropped a memoir where he talks about his life and kind of goes into extensive detail and he talks about, you know, his, his, his, his sports career Not necessarily professional, but his amateur sports career and my boy Whitlock. He said, bro, we got to call some shit into question, some shit ain't adding up. You telling me you barely played in high school but you got a college scholarship that don't add up. Yeah, and he's right, that shit don't sell. And then he tells this story he went to a tryout and this Negro says he hit 17 threes.
Speaker 1:Never did it before, never did it again. 17 threes during this.
Speaker 8:Just at the tryout.
Speaker 1:How convenient is that Negro? How convenient is that? So I'm sitting here looking at it and I'm like Whitlock, you're a conservative nigga that I generally don't agree with. No, my nigga, you make a lot of good points.
Speaker 8:You're hitting a nail on a goddamn head, this shit don't ever sound right because you hitting the nail on the head against a black man. My thing is this I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't like Whitlock as his political stance. I don't believe in a lot of stuff that he's agreed with and a lot of things that he stands for. I will say any black man that's getting his own check and building his own company, I'm always going to have a baseline respect for. Because you getting out the mud, you not having ESPN signing your checks, you not going about getting it the dirty way, well, you get into dirty way, but you're dirty way. You control it. You're not doing it. You don't have someone putting the batter in your back. You're going to wake up in the morning and choose violence, yep. So I respect that. I can always respect that.
Speaker 1:So when he called out Stephen A, I'm thinking this man, stephen A, is going shit talk, he going to get in his bag, but he's going to address the lies I listened. He didn't address the lies. All he did was do some BS, high school shit where it's like, okay, he caught me in a corner, so I'm going to just play the popular kid role. And that's exactly what he did. He went out there and said nobody likes you, you fattest fuck.
Speaker 8:No, no, bitch, that's what he just said. Okay, what has have you? I don't know if I missed this, but how long has this bit, has this beef, been going on between Stephen A and Jason Whitlock?
Speaker 1:So, according to them, it's been going on since Jason Whitlock. When he left ESPN, or before ESPN, he was at a position where he was hiring writers and he had a chance to hire Stephen A, but he told his bosses that he didn't feel like Stephen A was a good enough writer.
Speaker 8:Okay, so and so that's why he didn't sign them on. I have been assuming this whole time that Jason Whitlock is a white man. Am I correct in that?
Speaker 1:Incorrect. He's a black man with a heavy variety of. That's why he called him fat. He's a bad black man.
Speaker 8:Okay, so this is, like it seems to me, a black man hindering and like low key, being a hater, and like for another, another black man's career.
Speaker 1:Whitlock is being a hater.
Speaker 8:Yeah, in the beginning, of course. No, no, get me wrong. If he was like stopping him and saying that he's like not right for this position, it seems like even more like hateration in the beginning, so was Whitlock in a higher position than Stephen A Let me explain to you In his inception. Let me explain to you. Yes.
Speaker 1:So when we talk about sports writing and sports journalism, you gotta remember. For a large part of their career it was about the pen. Nobody saw what you look like. Yeah, they just saw your name. Mm hmm, so the business changed over to being on TV Somebody like Stephen, a Decent looking man More aesthetically pleasing.
Speaker 8:It's going to transition Whitlock when you take a look at.
Speaker 1:Jason Whitlock, apparently you start bone did. My thing is that when you take a look at Jason Whitlock, you start breathing heavy.
Speaker 8:Let me look up Jason Whitlock while you're Jason.
Speaker 1:Whitlock has some of the worst profile photos known to me. Like this is a big boy Like he's. He's always been heavy set. He wears a weird fan for doors. Okay, like he comes off like a guy that says, oh, the black women didn't like me in high school.
Speaker 8:Yeah, yeah, you can see that right. The for the suit is big and the fedora is small.
Speaker 1:Steve Harvey suits in for doors. That's what Jason Whitlock was on Steve.
Speaker 8:Harvey suits and Neo for doors when it changed to be in TV.
Speaker 1:Your ass ain't going to stick. So of course there's going to be hate. There I'm going. I agree there may be some hate, but don't worry the Tata's, I'm directing the hate in the avenue of truth and I hate seeing this. I seen so many people recovering this and I even had conversations in my own personal group chat about this where folks was talking about oh, why Steve? Why why Stephen A got a stoop down to this, or why Stephen A Uh not being respected, or Stephen A I'm on Stephen A side. I'm like are you niggas listening? Are you paying attention? Cause right now it sounds like there's a lot of bald glazing going on around here, like it's a lot of craziness that occurred over here. My bad.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of craziness going on over here, and I don't know and it's not acceptable. The craziness is not acceptable. I'm not with it. Okay, like we have to stand on principles and values and we have to sit here and can't ball glaze a man because his feelings were hurt. Stephen A should be ashamed. She'd be ashamed because you didn't address the point. I don't care about the bully talk, I don't care about the grandstanding. It's not what I stand for. It's not I stand for truth.
Speaker 8:You stay grandstanding as like at least one episode.
Speaker 1:Cause that's what all you niggas are doing. You are. All you are doing is grandstanding.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I have big ass egos with dicks that can't match the size of green ghost. It can't Damn. I wanted to get it. I think you got little dicks, tiny little dicks.
Speaker 1:Alright.
Speaker 8:So uh, tiny little micro penises.
Speaker 1:I got one more thing. I forgot to first talk about Yassine Bay, aka Most Deaf. This was I saw that this was peak hate right here.
Speaker 8:It was peak yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1:I'm about to play. I'm going to play.
Speaker 8:I was trying to like convoluted in my mind like, oh, this is an old rap.
Speaker 1:So if y'all, but like if y'all don't know who Yassine Bay. He also goes by Most Deaf and one of the greatest underground rappers.
Speaker 8:Point link period. And.
Speaker 1:I'm going to talk to that point a little bit, because I think that may have been marketing, that's a marketing. Underground rapper is marketing. We're going to talk about that in just a minute.
Speaker 8:Just rappers who who don't make mainstream music.
Speaker 1:No, it's marketing.
Speaker 8:Is Drake hip hop. Hey, hey come right.
Speaker 12:Drake is pop to me in the sense that I was in Target in Houston and I heard a Drake song. It feels like a lot of his music is compatible with shopping.
Speaker 1:That's hate. That's hate, that's disrespecting hate.
Speaker 12:Commercial music oh it's shopping with an edge in certain instances.
Speaker 8:He said what I like to drink music. But I understand exactly what you're saying Of course I mean okay.
Speaker 1:So my thing is this what is shopping with an edge? Is that shopping with a shank or a knife?
Speaker 8:No, it's like the. I think he meant the typical music that you would hear in a Macy's, in a mall, in a forever 21. But like If they played hip hop, something a little bit more edgy than it would be Drake All right.
Speaker 1:So this is what I'm gonna say. First, this is gonna come from a place where I don't appreciate To dark skin individuals criticizing a light skin man.
Speaker 8:Most death is not dark skin brown skin individuals.
Speaker 1:Discussing a light skin man not being enough of something, I'm gonna always have an issue with that as a light skin man.
Speaker 8:Secondly, most definitely brown.
Speaker 1:And secondly, most death. You were the first pop nigga ever, the first pop hip hop nigga that was you, that was it.
Speaker 8:That's a terrible take. He's definitely not the first so this nigga?
Speaker 1:So this nigga wasn't in brown sugar the first, so this nigga wasn't all over the all over, everywhere.
Speaker 8:The first pop niggas this nigga wasn't singing the first in that same era that most death was in right. I Would correct me if I'm wrong. He's. He's not in the first wave of like when hip hop became Popular. He was directly after that. He was the. He was after that so when I think, you was wrong.
Speaker 1:He was. After that he was the quintessential in the earth in the late 90s, early 2000s. When your white nigga, who was super in the hip hop, said something about he was much after that he was like 99.
Speaker 8:Yeah, so he was. He was much after that. When I think about um Pop Hip hop when you most death was never that. What Most death was never popular like pop hip hop.
Speaker 8:When I think about that, I think about like rappers delight, I think about like Nelly, I think about like Ja Rule, I think about men like that and and in growing up in New York were like there was a lot of like very Poppy hip hop going on on the radio and when I was in, when I was introduced to hip hop as an immigrant, all I listened to right like the only thing that I knew. I didn't know of the underground people and of the like real gritty, like rappers and in the real hip hop scene. All I knew was the above ground, very mainstream people. I had never Heard of most death until I fell in love with hip hop and I started researching and I went back and I was like okay, like this is somebody who has a lot of talent. The people who I was introduced to were the Nellies, the Ja Rules, the Bowows, the Little Romeo's, and they were popular.
Speaker 8:I think I Would say at the same time as most death was putting out all of his music but his music wasn't being played on power one of five point one. It wasn't being played on hot 97 like Ja Rule and Nelly and Bow Wow and stuff like that was. So I I would never Put most death in a mainstream category. I think that's a terrible take.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you're saying mainstream when I'm saying he was the quintessential Pop culture version of what a hip hop person was so when you think about like the lyrical, like yes, miracle, miracle, shit, that's him.
Speaker 8:Yeah, when you think about the snobby hip hop nigger, like he is who you think about in in that, in that it's specific aesthetic and category. But, um, when I say pop, I mean like stuff that was being played on hot 97 and his power. One of five point one, you're sick his stuff was.
Speaker 1:It was a lot of stuff. You didn't realize. Most death was on and you got to understand you came in 2003. So it was a little different. He, he.
Speaker 8:I did yeah his debut album was 1999.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'm not gonna let a nigger Tell me he's underground went in. Let me see 2004. You were in something the Lord made. 2006, those were like you was in 16 block. You can't. You was in the hitchhiker god to the galaxy in 2005.
Speaker 8:I think he did make a beautiful transition into niggas and catalyzed records, the, the cinematic Uh community. But I still think if you completely separate Hollywood, then most death as a rapper, and only a rapper, not as an actor Was not mainstream. Because everything you just said to me were movies. Tell me Uh, uh, a record that he had that went diamond.
Speaker 1:Okay, diamond is an extreme to say he's no, but literally like that's, that's a mainstream artist thing.
Speaker 8:Tell me what, what. What records went platinum of his?
Speaker 1:I can go into the, the desigrapy. My thing is this like you're looking at it more as a product result, and I'm talking about more of a branding and the way that he was presented, bro, I watch, okay, so when I was really introduced, hold on, let me. When I was really introduced to most death, it was because of Dave chappelle I watched a chappelle show and that nigga was the most consistent guest who would come on and perform.
Speaker 1:Dave chappelle was a hip-hop. Hey, I will never forget most death freestyling in the car. Why Dave chappelle is driving him.
Speaker 8:A right, dave chappelle was a lover of rap and the hip-hop, point blank. He brought a lot of these underground rappers to the mainstream. He had so many and this nigga was doing before his debut.
Speaker 8:Honestly same for me the, the. The reason I got Um introduced to a lot of people and the reason that I had recognition of some of these songs Is because of the fact that I watched a Dave chappelle show. As someone who didn't grow up in hip-hop and or like what? Like the, the music that I grew up listening in my house was kopa and hasha music and iet to Uba do and stuff like that. Um, like this, is when, when it comes to Music and hip-hop that I had to go out of my way, out of like 106 in park to find Then it is categorized as underground for me and that that might be my specific bias, I think that my experience and I know and I can agree where you can definitely Understand where he champion underground.
Speaker 2:What I guess what I'm saying is like what you did was.
Speaker 1:You were a branding and a personification of that. You weren't really underground.
Speaker 8:Yeah, you weren't really underground. I do. I do agree with that. He was the quintessential Like and that's what drake is now he's he he is.
Speaker 1:In regards, to tell me what you're saying, I'm saying that's what drake is now. Drake will act like he's underground. Drake will act like he don't act like he underground. No, drake will act like he's underground, like he just bringing niggas on some shit. He hip on shit that niggas ain't hip on. He will do that and and he will also be played as the quintessential rap nigger right now, if white people were to think of a rap nigger right now, yeah, because of the fact how young, how mainstream he is, but the the white niggas that I'm coming up and white niggas older than me.
Speaker 8:They were nasty ass kango trying to look like most death. If white people think of you as the what they were trying to look like, elah kooj First.
Speaker 1:No, they were trying to like most death. They Most of did not make the kango a thing, that was one of his things, though Don't do that, like don't do that the.
Speaker 8:It was kango shawty if, if we're going back into hip hop history, be boys, the kango was their uniform and that was that was way before most death.
Speaker 1:So I don't think that most death made that a thing. What did I say? What mr Most death was. What did I say he was? He was the pop culture view of what a hip hop head was. So of course he's going to have the kango it just depends on the timing of most death and I saw brown sugar. I saw brown sugar.
Speaker 8:It just depends on if they just know they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1:Do enough push-ups to be no kooj. You could do enough push-ups.
Speaker 8:Do elah kooj If elah kooj became more popular than most death before then.
Speaker 6:Elah kooj, I completely disagree with you, but if most death was more, popular before before.
Speaker 8:I don't know. I'm telling you, there's a whole decade between those, so you said elah kooj was the 80s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the 80s early 90s was the 90s early 2000.
Speaker 8:Okay, so the kango was relevant before most death. He didn't make that popular.
Speaker 1:He did it, but he, as of right now, the quintessential hip hop nigger at that particular time Was most death. That's what I'm saying. You have no right to call drake pop. You was almost, you was damn near.
Speaker 8:Drake is drake is definitely pop, okay, and also, too, I agree with smoke. So we we got completely very far from. I've always stayed on my point. I agree with most death. I do think he delivered it in a very hatery Hateration type of um uh, aesthetic and mood and I don't. I don't like how you Came across because you seemed like one of the old niggas hating on the one of the new niggas, just like all of the old niggas sounded. When, like mumble rap came out, um, y'all, everyone sounded. All of the old niggas sounded angry and you just sound angry that that drake has surpassed everything you've ever done, like numbers wise, on paper, everything. I think you sound very hatery, but I think at the core of everything you said you are correct. I think drake is pop rap. I think it's more digestible than um what most death was doing back in the day. He was doing very conscious, like we're struggling in the hood. Rap Drake makes music that makes white people way more comfortable than most death did, and I'm going to die on that hill.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, go get your cross, could you? You're gonna be fair, christ.
Speaker 8:All right, uh christ.
Speaker 1:I think we got pretty much. You got anything? What's on your docket?
Speaker 8:okay, I think it's kind of Um misogynist that we go through your whole list before we even touch my list.
Speaker 1:No, it's because you don't want to work together, and I'll say, I'll be telling you my whole list, and then most of your stuff is better for the end, though, because my stuff is less interesting for the beginning.
Speaker 6:No, I just find the stuff that is clicking right now.
Speaker 1:That's all. It's all a business.
Speaker 8:Okay, so the next thing I wanted to get into was completely unrelated to this. So the next thing I wanted to get into was verbal ace. Do you know who this is? Verbalace Verbalace Uh, inform me. So verbalace is a youtuber who was known mostly for beatboxing and he has a huge following on youtube and he has been Viral, making a lot of news lately because he spent 50 000 Dollars On a music video Of him and Of him and his favorite Anime character. So the fate the anime character is from has been hotel.
Speaker 8:So this is like um, a smaller Animated series that has been picked up by amazon. Is it's gonna be on amazon, if I'm. I don't know if I'm correct, but it might be on amazon already or it's coming to amazon. So it's called has been hotel and it's um has been hotel is about a bunch of demons in a hotel and they are basically like in rehab to try to get into heaven. So that's what has been hotel is about. So he spent 50 000 on Uh, a mv. That's what all the kids are calling it. I don't even know what that means. Amb used to be what we had when we were younger.
Speaker 1:It's just like a audio music.
Speaker 8:Of his favorite waifu waifu. So waifu or waifu, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly is like your, your anime wife. So the, the, the anime character that you lust for the most, if I'm correct. So he spent 50 000 on a music video of him and his favorite anime character.
Speaker 1:Um and just for those at home, amb means animated music video.
Speaker 8:Yes, so everyone has been like a little bit iffy About this. We tried to find the music video because originally he had posted it on his youtube page. Say how much he paid for this 50 000 dollars.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just want to make sure niggas heard that 50 000 dollars.
Speaker 8:I said that several times, so he had originally posted it on his youtube page. We um tried to find it, but he has since taken it off. So, um, he's not benefiting financially From spending this money anymore, because there's no there's no streaming.
Speaker 8:There's no monetary gain from it. So Everyone has um been talking about this. I don't I wouldn't say everyone's upset, everyone's just taking it back. Because in this animated video he is being um sexually assaulted by the character that he loves. So the character is called charlie morning star. She is like one of the main characters of this show, so in the music video she's like chasing him down the entire time, she's like lusting after him, and then she finally chases him down, she pins him down, and then there's like a really weird part where there's like a sensor bar and it's heavily insinuated that they're having intercourse intercourse but for some reason it's non sensual, it's non consensual. Why is it non consensual?
Speaker 1:I think a lot of people are here hearing this and listening to it and, just like normal people, they're creating a picture in their head of what this man looks like, and I promise you it does not look like what you think you don't look like what you think he looked like right here it's a black man.
Speaker 8:There's a black man who is married with.
Speaker 1:Children. Well, be honest, though y'all y'all can see him getting that shit off. That's just be for real.
Speaker 8:Yeah, you just didn't expect him to be black Other than other than him being black. Y'all do exactly what the fuck this but?
Speaker 1:if I told you he was black, this would be the nigga that you would have picked out. The line right here. This is this is definitely the nigga. You would have picked out the lineup.
Speaker 8:Yeah 100%. He was friends with childish gay. But you know what had school for sure.
Speaker 1:They definitely traded pokemon cards.
Speaker 8:So um user on twitter, um on x At the star of luck, is the one who alleged that he spent $50,000 to get this. This music video made. Reddit user paisley pancake um claims that verbalize hired. This is the like what it's, not even the craziest part. But she claims that he hired a 15 year old to make this music video. So not only Did this music video include a sexual assault, the sexual assault was Created. The artist was a 15 year old so allegedly so.
Speaker 1:Is that bad though? Like If I'm just I'm letting him get his shit off?
Speaker 8:I mean, if it was just a regular low music video, but like knowing, knowing that you wanted a sexual assault specifically as your artistic vision. Maybe you should have gotten somebody older to do that.
Speaker 1:I think that's creepy. I'm just thinking about my son does digital art like that and I don't.
Speaker 8:I don't think I would be upset you'd be hype as fuck if he got $50,000 to make him my bad for saying his name. I mean saying shit, you gotta bleep that out, my bad. I'm really sorry, but you'd be so hype if he got. If he got 50k for anything, the content wouldn't be like it would.
Speaker 1:I guess 15 to me that's. That's at the time where you can make the decisions that you know. Like a bro, I'm doing this for a dollar, I don't care what. Like this shit that I'm doing right here is not going to affect who I am as a person moving forward by doing this kind of work. So I don't see where it's like making it a notice that it was a minor, like we should be shouting that nigga out so apparently verbal, ace Was having a lot of trouble with his youtube.
Speaker 8:He wasn't making money off his youtube.
Speaker 1:There was like Uh, I'm glad you're talking about this, because this is the sick part.
Speaker 8:So you, you looked into this more than I did actually, so there was shady shit going on with his youtube right.
Speaker 1:Well, you looked at more than I did, but you said this the conversation that we had so his reddit so no, his patreon no well oh, you jumped a little bit. So the conversation that we had yeah, we looked into it was that he had an issue with youtube.
Speaker 8:Yes, so this is what I didn't know about youtube wasn't paying him correctly. Yes.
Speaker 1:He then responded by Shout, you know, telling them what was going on, and that ended up giving him a following big enough to be able to translate that to a patreon.
Speaker 8:So with the money that he made from patreon is what he used to spend $50,000 on this music video. As a result, allegedly, of making this music video, he has gone bankrupt. No money for his wife and kids. I'm beyond because because he made an amv of his waifu Sexually assaulting- him.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be honest with you. I respect a nigga who put the money back into the craft. I ain't mad at the nigga for it. Nigga, if you did that, nigga re hustle back into the craft it.
Speaker 8:Honestly, if you did that, there would be no getting my respect back for you. Like I wouldn't leave you but I would bitch you every day, like until you leave me. Like I would make you feel like less of a man Consistently, and it wouldn't even be my fault, it would just be subconscious, off the cuff like you, a you, you are irresponsible like he could have got it all, like, let's be honest, he could have got that all, like that could have been something that could have got him some money.
Speaker 1:It just didn't work because there was some history behind it, but he could have got that. All that wasn't bad.
Speaker 8:It was terrible because bankrupt is crazy.
Speaker 1:The only reason is bad because of the outcome. That's the only reason, and that's what's hard being a man, because if it, if your outcome ain't pristine, if it ain't top tier, you're gonna be trash and I'm sorry you kind of deserved it.
Speaker 8:So I have a little. I have a little like let's just watch a little clip of it, because no, that wasn't it. Oh my bad, so let's just watch a little discussion of it really start of this um verbal ace. I don't even know, but here here it goes.
Speaker 9:It don't matter what you do. You know I will run to you. Can't believe in all this time. I'm hurting for you, but you feel like home.
Speaker 8:Look at this so high I'm dying for it. I'm dying for it. I can't Shout out to the sick niggas. She's like you can't hide from me, and that's what he wants. That's exactly what he wants. The shit is is sick. It is very sick.
Speaker 1:I'm with the vile behavior, I'm with it.
Speaker 8:I think this is so interesting.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the sick black niggas out here Yo we, it's too many y'all that's be doing like real criminal shit. Shout out to the niggas that just keep it at home, keep it on the computer, I don't know this about me.
Speaker 8:I haven't said this but like, all of my male friends are like nerds, like like league, like the all, the most of this time I spent.
Speaker 8:All must not d&d. Most of the time I spent with him was Because all they did was play league and marvel versus capcom. These were nerdy niggas. Anime, marvel, dc. These were the black men that I was around consistent, that I chose to be around consistently. So this is a, but this is a different level. This is a completely different level. None of my friends, no matter how much they might Want to penetrate an anime character, would ever spend fit, not not even $1,000, on a music video of them doing that.
Speaker 1:See, I mean it wouldn't be bad if he didn't go bank, like that's the only part, like how do you got to do that Shit when you fly and you got all the money like? When you told me this when we was gonna talk about it, like I was sitting here thinking to myself how do you go bank rug? Bank. Rupt, because if you said the 15 year old did it, how does what where? Like there was other problems you had, that was the only problem you had. Were you buying only fans?
Speaker 8:Did you crap out? Were you? Are you a gambler? He was definitely buying the only fans of the girls that were like With the you know.
Speaker 1:No, he's definitely a gambler. Like they're. Like you have to have other afflictions. Like you can't have just normal afflictions and think, okay, I'm gonna be all right. Like no, there's, there's something else going on with you, sir.
Speaker 8:You, you anime niggas, you nerdy niggas. Like it is, it is completely fine to be nerdy, but I think verbal ace Is like the cap when you get to there. I think you need to calm it down. I do. I think anything below verbal ace, verbal ace's behavior, is completely normal. I support it. I'll be your friend. I've befriended several of black men below that level. Above that level, though, you're giving, you're giving jail and you need to go to prison.
Speaker 1:All right, so Time to get into some new movie reviews.
Speaker 8:Yes, we promised you that the the tv. Slush movies, but that's not in our title part would get back into the talk fnf in 2024. So we are doing that for you. So, um, I kind of want to do like a regular. Like each, each week, we're gonna review the number one Netflix movie or show or whatever. Um, in the top 10 is in the top 10. So this week, lift was the number one movie. For some reason, lift was the number one movie. So this movie we know why?
Speaker 8:Well, obviously, kevin hart has has the um the netflix contract, the netflix bag, because there is absolutely no reason that this should have been number one. So starring kevin hart as syris um google Bata raw. I'm sorry if I.
Speaker 1:I pronounce that rinse layer if I pronounce that incorrectly.
Speaker 8:I did my best.
Speaker 1:That's the girl who played rinse layer in loki, so if y'all not familiar with her that, she.
Speaker 8:She played abby in this movie and those were like the, the two main characters.
Speaker 8:This is like the main supporting aso. Earth Corbero played camilla Sam washington I don't know why his name isn't here, but I don't know who he played. Um billy Magnuson played magus, and so on and so forth. So this movie was number one on netflix and I don't know why. I don't know why. I think, um kevin hart is a horrible leading man and a romantic anything. Um, I think in his last Series, um, I forget what it was called, but the series where it was a little bit more serious, it was about, like him, killing his brother that that limited series.
Speaker 8:Um, he got a little bit more acting chops and a little bit more respect from his audience and maybe hollywood I'm not sure what goes on there, but maybe hollywood also but I think that they took a leap in a jump with kevin hart being a leading like romantic interest, and it did not read at all. I was cringing the entire fucking time every time that kevin hart was supposed to be perceived as like sexy or like making my loins tingle. I literally just wanted to like curl up in a ball and stop watching because it was so embarrassing. Because why would y'all think that, like, kevin hart was gonna be sexy in any way, shape or form? He works out, but he's not sexy. So I did not.
Speaker 8:I didn't enjoy kevin hart's performance in this, his acting. I think it just seemed like kevin hart Trying to be like a spy. So I didn't realize that. I didn't even like in like explain the whole premise of the movie to you guys. So kevin hart is supposed to be a art thief. He's supposed to be like a big time, like one of the biggest art thieves in in the united states, right? And I guess the antagonist like his, the, the person opposing him, is this woman who is played by um what's her name? Google?
Speaker 8:So, um, abby is um part of the cia and she's part of the like Art stealing, art thief, the task force yeah, so that's her, um, her main thing that she focuses on. So they had a fling A Years ago or a while ago, and neither of them knew that one of them was an art thief and the other Caught art thieves and they fell for each other within the couple weeks. They then found out he got away. They've had some type of animosity, professional animosity towards each other the entire time. In the beginning of the movie, um, the cia Hires kevin hart and his team to steal Gold from this like big time criminal that they need to steal it from because if he gets this deal through, then it'll be very detrimental for the entire world. So they have to give him a deal. So kevin hart is, and his team and all of their misdoings and all of their illegal activities are going to be um forgiven if this thing, if this plan, goes according to plan and they steal the the big bads Gold, right. So this is where we are now. There's, um, there's a supposed Sexual tension that we are supposed to feel Throughout the like. It's a threat throughout the entire movie.
Speaker 8:The thread Is not substantial. The thread is a sheen thread. It's in the thrift store. It's been used over and over again as barely a thread. You pull it a little bit, it's gonna come loose. Kevin Hart is not sexy. No matter how hard you try, kevin Hart is not sexy. There are two scenes in particular that they try to make you like. They really tried to like, hone it in, like they try to drill it through. That he's like Sexy and it doesn't work. So there. So there was this moment when he calls her his trophy wife because he's like this is in the movie, they're pretending to be together for the case. He calls her his trophy wife and she says, after the guy leaves oh, that's not a compliment. And he's like no, that wasn't the compliment. Calling you my wife is I'm looking down at you, sir. Why would you call me? You're anything. That's a threat. Why would you claim me in front of any other man?
Speaker 8:to have any type of importance or power. Like I was supposed to, like feel that I was supposed to be, like, ooh, it didn't. I was like Every moment that y'all wanted me to think that Kevin Hart was like ooh, let me go. Like rub one out. It just wanted to make me like so, so my labia's together for it. So there was another scene, specifically where they are Undercover again. They're pretending to be a couple. They are, oh wait.
Speaker 1:This is the second scene that he was trying to be a mr Showtime forI Think that's hilarious that give me a second, I'm sorry. No, that's why I think it's hilarious that they would put Kevin Hart in his Roll, because, I mean, for so long they had to put him next to the rock To be able to even do any of these kind of rolls, and now they thinking because he didn't did a couple push-ups just because Even the rock himself To be camera angle that they think that they can get that shit off even the rock himself is too corny to be a romantic interest like.
Speaker 8:There's a difference between the male gaze and the female gaze. I feel like the rock is what the male gaze Assumes that the female gaze is, but it's not remember when the rock was in a Tyler Perry movie?
Speaker 1:I Don't. You don't remember when. What's the movie with Janet Jackson? What's her movie? Can I remember the movie with Janet Jackson? Remember her husband dies Because he gets sick doing the bending. No, not that one. He gets sick or something cuz remember. Okay, this is the one where I think is why did I get married? I think that's what it is. Yeah, I get married to the rock. He was in the second movie. At the end of the movie she dates the rock, he's only in it for like five seconds.
Speaker 8:Oh, okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1:But the rock was in a Tyler Perry movie.
Speaker 8:So I got so the second scene, that we're like really supposed to think that Kevin Hart is like really like this sex pot, like like I want to suck that To Kevin Hart no never, so the second scene that we're supposed to want to do that.
Speaker 8:So they're in the plane. She's supposed to be doing some secret, undercover stuff in the bathroom. It goes awry. He has to go in there and help her. Um, somebody else on the opposing team is trying to get into the bathroom. They have to pretend that they're like doing it, like they're a couple doing it like my hot club.
Speaker 8:Yeah, in the, in the, the airplane bathroom, and she's like moaning while they're doing. They're both moaning while they're doing all the stuff and then they're about to walk out and then, right before they walk out, he like kisses her all passionately and he's like Now it's real and then walks out. Ew, I just fake mode the whole time. It was it was real to the people outside, regardless. You want me to think Kevin Hart is sexy for real.
Speaker 8:Everything about the premise of the movie I completely, I completely, completely lost, because y'all wanted me to think that Kevin Hart was sexy. Why did? Why did? Why? Was that something that? That was something that they definitely harped on and it was not great.
Speaker 8:The chemistry between him and his love interest was like Super, super off. It was like my measuring stick between, like, whether their chemistry was. My measuring stick was whether, like I, that I wanted them to like have sex or not, like if their chemistry was better and if he played that better, then I was like I would have been like, ooh, I really want to see them have sex, because that's how, that's how I measure Romantic interests, like chemistry on screen. Do I want to see them bang it out or not, or do? Do I even want to see them do a little? Do a little, first base, second base, sprinkling in the third base, like, do I want to see that? Because if I don't even want to see that then you as a producer, a writer or director have Not built up enough tension for me to to want that, and I feel like my opinion in of sexual tension as a woman Matters more than a man's. So if me as a woman doesn't feel the sexual tension between the characters, then it's point blank.
Speaker 1:It's not there because men so you say you didn't feel the tension?
Speaker 8:there was zero tension.
Speaker 1:Well, to be fair, this whole movie was garbage this entire movie was garbage.
Speaker 8:Stop, stop making Kevin Hart a leading man. He can be the funny guy, the sidekick, the like he can even in. In the instance of that, that short series in Netflix Do like a short Serious thing but like, as far as me, sexually being attracted to this four foot five man.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 8:I was somebody else.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say that you know, I was gonna shout to the director, who was also the director of Friday, but she just shit on that niggas Pick somebody up whole fucking product right there Yo there are so many like.
Speaker 8:This role did not require any comedic finesse.
Speaker 1:You know, Netflix gave Kevin Hart like a multi picture deal right. Ro, and this nigga Daniel.
Speaker 8:Kahlua would have did better in that role.
Speaker 1:This nigga is not putting Daniel Kahlua in a movie where he can pocket that money.
Speaker 8:What's his face? Um, that definitely has a Netflix deal. Both of them boys, from all American, both them black boys.
Speaker 1:They don't have a Netflix deal because they were all American.
Speaker 8:No, I don't know, but both of them would have been a better deal.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that they wouldn't, I'm saying that if I'm, if you just gave me, let's just say they gave this nigga like 12 million dollars right for two movies.
Speaker 8:There's.
Speaker 1:I'm just, I'm starring in both movies, because I'm not paying no one else to be in these movies.
Speaker 8:I agree with you. There's no amount of money you can pay Kevin Hart for me to think he's sexy. That's all I'm saying, that's so. This was a drop. I think he would agree with you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he would definitely agree with you. He is definitely. He is definitely using his movies. He's definitely using his movies as an opportunity to build his persona, like I feel like Something that goes without saying is that a lot of guys who make movies are our directors Use it as an opportunity to build their persona, to create images with them with, like, sexier women than they would normally Be able to obtain mm-hmm so that when other women who are attractive. I don't, I don't, I don't?
Speaker 1:it is easier to for them to be like Okay, I can get with this country, ass nigga.
Speaker 8:I also don't want to be an asshole. I love women. I'm a feminist. I don't necessarily um Categorize her as like a sexy woman like us like she's, that's a that's hate. No, she's, that's a. She's gorgeous, that's hate and she's beautiful. What is layer is attractive but she doesn't give me like sex pop. That's you know she doesn't give me like. I mean she's that. What's her name from that? That? That black Mirror episode, the black woman with the lips what's her name?
Speaker 8:with the, the one that was in the gay man episode where they they was fucking each other on the AI.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know you're talking about shawty her. They said she should have been missing.
Speaker 8:Yes, she gives me sexy. She gives me sexy Like everything about her entire persona her eyes, her cheekbones, her lips Oozes like.
Speaker 1:I want to eat your pussy she doesn't give me sex, she gives me like very normal.
Speaker 8:Nah, she her lip shape really good, but like this lady.
Speaker 1:She's attracted by they.
Speaker 8:she just this lady gives me librarian for real, like very cute librarian, like very cute kindergarten teacher.
Speaker 9:She cares so much that's funny that you say about her kindergarten class.
Speaker 1:No, I was funny that she said that she decorates her entire class. Let me tell you why it's funny that you said that, because in Loki she was a principal, so it's funny that you typecast it.
Speaker 8:Yeah, she doesn't give me like she doesn't get like I want to bang it.
Speaker 1:I want to bang it.
Speaker 8:She gives me like I want to, I want to, I want her to be in my kitchen making cupcakes.
Speaker 1:I mean, I would have more, I would have more opinions on this movie if the woman that I considered the love of my life Didn't watch the movie without me and didn't consider me in it. But I think that the way you handle this whole breakdown was good. Wow, can we get into a movie now that I actually got to see that you allowed me to watch with you?
Speaker 8:Allowed me to watch. Allowed you to watch is crazy, but I was gonna go see this without him too, like that was Okay let me tell y'all the thing I said baby, I Want to go see Mean Girls on this day. He said, well, it's gonna be football playing all day In my head, I said. I said I'm gonna go see about myself, it's fine.
Speaker 8:I'm just gonna go see it alone cuz it's a musical. I didn't think he really even wanted to see it that bad. But my baby, as he does, compromised and we went to see Mean Girls before. Was it the playoffs, the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Before one of the playoffs Well, a lot of people don't know that. But that's, that's from a whole interview so Okay. Mean Girls was was a lot for us, because mean girls the musical? I don't think people understand first off, for most, this was the Caucasian woman. Black color, purple this was the Caucasian woman.
Speaker 7:That's a terrible take.
Speaker 1:Then it was because it was a movie that resonated with that community and then became a musical.
Speaker 8:Both of them became a musical in the same year both became musicals, but as far as as far as what they represent in the black community.
Speaker 1:This is white women trauma. What we saw was white women trauma. Yes, it was. You know that it was. She got hit by a bus. That is white women trauma. Yeah, this mute like okay, I just want to say something here. You know we need to shit on you first, because, out of all the movies Clarence, american fiction, Black movies you was just out here Petitioning for Taraji and what did you choose? To go see this white movie.
Speaker 8:You should be ashamed of yourself. Okay, as far as my rhetoric, I Should be ashamed of myself, but I'm literally just a girl. No, I'm just a girl.
Speaker 1:Tell them what you told me I want to see mean girls. Tell them what you told me Mean girls. No, that's not what you told me I want.
Speaker 8:You told me mean girls means more to me in my life. She said I was excited to see me girls. I don't give a fuck about anything that was in, she said, because of the fact that mean girls was in theaters.
Speaker 1:I don't want to watch that black bitch trauma.
Speaker 8:Okay, yes, yes, yes. I forgot that I don't want the historically famous movie about black trauma musical Like I'm not trying to watch that bitch the fuck, I'm not trying to watch that mean girls resonates. I'm so sorry that it's so many white women, but mean girls 100% represents my personality and my life More than the color purple does. I'm not a slave that's been sexually assaulted.
Speaker 6:I'm a bad bitch, that was a high school in the 2000s.
Speaker 8:I'm sorry. This means more to me than the color purple did. I'm so sorry. I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 1:So are you trying to say Lindsey Lohan is hitting more in your community, then Will be go berg?
Speaker 8:not in general. No, are you trying to say Katie is over Ceile? Not in general.
Speaker 1:No, it feels like it feels general, it feels very general.
Speaker 8:So this is what it feels like. Let's get into the actual. Are you a bunny hopper?
Speaker 1:That's what it feels like.
Speaker 8:I Will choke you out right now, because I have never entertained anything other than black men my entire life. Okay, so let's get into the first thing I wanted to get into for mean girls, before we go into the whole dissection of the new plot, the new way that was a new characters were. Let's, before we get into anything of that nature, let's get into the new characters and their roles. So we're gonna focus on the og like main team, right. Mm-hmm. So Katie Herron, the plastics, katie Low hand, now played by angry rice.
Speaker 1:I want to say something before we continue. I apologize, because I said that you was made as the movie progressed.
Speaker 8:You, you feel those shoes well, I still think you were made, so I don't think he should have apologized for that.
Speaker 1:No, you were no Lindsay Lohan. Don't get me wrong, let's go. Hand was in the movie, shout out to her You're no Lindsay Lohan, but I, I discussed you as you were a tear lower than you were and I apologize Continue okay, so, yeah.
Speaker 8:So then we have Regina George, originally played, played by Rachel McAdams. Then we have can we discuss this? Each character for a little bit.
Speaker 11:No, let me just get through really quick and then we'll Go back.
Speaker 1:Right, I just want to get through it really quick.
Speaker 8:So then we have Gretchen Reiner's, originally played by Lacey Chanhurt, now played by a baby would, and Karen, originally played by Amanda sinfried, now played by an antique, a so those are just the plastics.
Speaker 8:I didn't get into anybody else, those are just the like main group of girls. Okay, so let's talk about the plastics. What do you think about the new plastics and and the originals versus the, the new representations of them? I will say this, and I want you to be extremely Misogynistic I'm about to be in my back and about their hotness and everything, because I think there was only one girl that held up To like the hotness standard.
Speaker 1:I don't even think we'll probably might agree on this one.
Speaker 8:We probably might not, but I'll say this we might for the most part.
Speaker 1:For the most part, I was sitting here when I watched it again. I was a regional in theater 2000, again 20 years.
Speaker 1:It's literally 20 years to the year that the last me and girls came out. So I was part of that group. I saw this movie come out. I saw the the way that it grew, and I will say this because the person who played Regina King she was the girl who's in doctor, doctor, strange, okay, she's a dime like I feel like this was the movie that I Proved your point that they are trying to Stop the hotness in Hollywood.
Speaker 8:For real, like I'm sitting here. They've been trying to. There has been an agenda Like I can only say this as a skinny woman not even a skinny black woman Just taking everything outside of my identity, just as a skinny woman they have been trying to take the skinny bitches out of everything I'm not even saying, just.
Speaker 1:I'm just talking about there's a certain level of attractive that they're trying to condition us to, because the girl who played Regina George she's not ugly by far, by far. We watched her in the college sex live movie.
Speaker 8:Love Renee rap. I think she's a great. I love her acting. I think her face is Gorgeous. I think her eyes are beautiful. I think she definitely gives that like mean Bitch, like I'm afraid of her and I want her to like me and I am. I am very. I would be very sad If she didn't like me because she's such a bad bitch and I'm intimidated by her type of like Fates features continue as a man.
Speaker 1:No, but I, and I agree with a lot of what she says. Facial, yes, you're outside the face. She does not fit Regina George. I think, outside of her being a blonde hair, white girl with blue eyes, everything else about her does not fit. Like if you compare her to the woman who played Regina George in the first one, they're not even the same. They're not even the same category on the same league. Like she would get the person who played the original Regina George, would get the stock Holder, the, the tech guy who's a white guy, the girl who plays her. Now, that is a black man's fetish.
Speaker 8:Yeah like.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what she looks like. I don't think she's a ugly girl.
Speaker 8:I don't think she should have been Regina George she is definitely like the type of white girl that black man go for. I think she should have been Karen, she she thick as hell.
Speaker 1:I feel like, if you were gonna change things up, you should have made Karen the girl of color, and we'll talk about what was the girl's name. Who was the who played? Karen? It was the Indian girl's name. What was her name?
Speaker 8:one more time her name was and then, so Karen was an antica.
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna say this baby respectfully. That's an attractive 18 year old. Right there she's literally.
Speaker 8:So she's a dog. We did have a little like back and forth about whether she looked 18 or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 8:I didn't think she did and I thought she, she genuinely 10000% looked 18, because if you take away the titties, in the makeup say that you can't say you just take away.
Speaker 8:Because in this day and age you have to. I think that you are Irresponsible in the way that you are looking at her. You have to look at different things because, we said it literally a hour ago, there are GMOs and hormones and this and that and the food and the girls are developing differently, so they're developing faster than they would have before. I think she 1000% has a baby face with the bucle, fat and the the way, with the roundness of her face and the plumpness and everything like she. Literally she gives me high school age.
Speaker 8:The whole time that I was watching mean girls yeah, the whole time that I was watching mean girls and Antica Karen's character, she was the whole. The whole time she was meant to be hypersexual and Because of how young she looked to me specifically it was a it was very Uncomfortable because of how I was, I was Met to perceive her. It feels like I was meant to perceive her to be Sexy as hell and this and that which, like she is. But I Feel like it was being pushed on us as an audience more To sexualize her more than she should have been, especially for her age and for me she 1000% looked her age. She looked like she was 18 years old, um, and it genuinely did make me a little bit more uncomfortable and it did make me because she, she looked the most Developed.
Speaker 8:So how you can say that and then say the point you just made she looked the most. Because I can make that point? Because all of us need to understand and Puberty as something that affects people differently. So a girl having big boobs doesn't mean that she's older. Okay, because when I was younger there were because I Naturally, genetically, was not ever somebody that was gonna have big boobs. So I naturally, when I was younger, I was like oh, you're younger than me, you should have smaller boobs than me. But that didn't always happen. So that's not something, that's not a measuring stake. I don't think at all. So because she is, her body is more developed. It doesn't mean that she in facial features which is why I kept focusing on her facial features If you look at just her face, she 1000% Gives you high school.
Speaker 1:See, no, I think you were looking at the facial features that were presented for her being caring, because you didn't look at the pictures that I looked of Actually her just presenting herself.
Speaker 8:No, I didn't.
Speaker 1:So when you see her when you see of how her body is, which is a big Point, of how you determine age of somebody, and then you look at her outside of this character.
Speaker 8:I'm talking about the movie, though I'm talking about me girls.
Speaker 1:I did more research so I looked into who she was and she's a Disney girl. She's somebody who's been on a Disney movie where she's actually to lead Mm-hmm. So my point was I felt like if we were gonna change things up, you shouldn't have changed body composition for Regina George, because you really just turned her into like the and again I don't want to just be disrespectful, but you turn her into the fat.
Speaker 8:No, I don't girl they.
Speaker 1:She was not fat, not one literally had a part in there where she took the the bars that were making her gang weight. So that was that was part of the original okay, so that was nothing in the this the girl changed at all the girl who played her is a heavy-set or heavy-set white.
Speaker 8:I'm just telling you that Lindsay Lohan, with her skinny ass, did the same thing in the same movie. The entire Her wanting to everything was the exact same.
Speaker 1:It's just Renee Rapp was a little bit bigger than Lindsay and that, but that that affects the person who is consuming the content, so I'm sorry that I'm harping on her her size. Yeah, that's a terrible take. Say that but anytime I'm saying anything that is about the way that the male gaze is looking at something, you're gonna feel like that. But she, I feel like she would have been a better Karen, because she fits the model of what Karen was, the girl who was a little bit.
Speaker 8:I don't think she would have given Airhead as well sick as well as an antiga did, because she did it so well, I actually. So as far as adaptation of the plastics go, I think that Karen was probably the like they stuck to their guns the most when it came to Karen's character, it felt like you know why right but also Going into this, I did not Keep on that point.
Speaker 1:I want to discuss that. You know why, though? Right, no, karen is the quintessential girl right now. She is the modern woman now.
Speaker 8:I just think she's the easiest to get off and you don't, you don't think that's the. Just like the.
Speaker 1:You don't think that's the quintessential model right now easy to get off. I guess we literally have a whole show called 20 women, one rapper Easy is to get off. That's why I feel like her anybody could have played Karen, because that model is almost what's being presented to us right now. That's the 100s of mine. That's why I wanted to see the ending girl. If we gonna change shit up, make the Indian girl be Regina George. I would love to see her in that kind of environment role and not to even harp on the fact that she's the privileged, rich girl, cuz that was what Regina's girl George was.
Speaker 8:In the first one was not the most privileged one. She was rich. As if you originally watched See mean girls, gretchen's character was Obviously the richest one. Regina George was never the richest one out of plastic Gretchen was always the richest because of her father Inventing total shooters.
Speaker 8:Well okay okay, like, like if you if you if you really, really, really want to get down to like oh G mean girls versus, because I made a list of the differences between the characters also Between the original, like how they were represented versus the new ones. Gretchen was the richest point blank period undoubtedly in their original mean girls. So Regina being the rich one and the new mean girls was completely new. They changed that.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, I can see that, but I mean again, I could just definitely feel, I think that the girl who played Karen could have really killed the Regina role and it would have made it more interesting to make her a person of color.
Speaker 8:So as far as other differences that like the biggest differences that I saw in the movie, so the biggest differences is that is gone, so Katie's dad, for some reason, is just not there anymore.
Speaker 1:That was hate.
Speaker 8:Yeah, so her father is just out of the picture. It doesn't really do anything for, like her or her mother or her her story whatsoever, so I don't know why that nobody makes her well, you know why.
Speaker 1:They wanted to focus on women and in a second on, it makes her support system more focused on the women around her, rather than incorporating the man.
Speaker 8:Yeah. So then the other, one of the other biggest differences that I saw in mean girls one versus well, the original mean girls versus this mean girls is that like there were at least like three or four Scenes where they were like planning things, where Janice works. But Janice doesn't work in the new mean girls she's just an artist like she just makes her money off of art. But Janice and their original mean girls, like she had like a part-time job at like a bathroom body works type of Store, which is where they got the lotion to give Regina George To tell her that it's like oh, gonna get rid of whatever of your pimples. In the new one they told her that it was gonna like help with her skin and it was lard instead of Janice like completely working. So Janice is supposed to be like a very hard-working Like girl, but in the new movie she's just an artist and it's just that like her, a lot of the Characters, the personalities I think in this version were way more one-dimensional Then they were in the originals, which is why I think like I don't think that Making the on-screen version of the musical was necessary.
Speaker 8:I think it was. It took away from the story and as a as a huge fan of mean girls myself, I've watched that movie 17 times. I wanted to go see the movie the, the musical on Broadway itself. When I went into this I didn't do all my research. I didn't think that it was just gonna be because that's what it is. It's the. It's the on-screen version of the musical. It's not mean girls. To a lot of us.
Speaker 8:Yeah, a lot of us were expecting mean girls reboot or mean girls to, and that's not what that was. It was mean girls, the musical on screen and it wasn't great, so I know I did learn that 14 songs Were cut from the musical to the on-screen version. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean cuz, like I said remember I said during the second half they almost stopped doing the whole musical. Like they're like the end of the second act To the third act. They almost stopped doing all musicals. Or if they were musicals, it was creatively done so that it didn't feel like it was actually the story being told. It was like we just about to tell the synopsis of what everybody else is feeling through song and then we'll go back to the character.
Speaker 8:So I hate musicals. I really I thought I went into this going. I went into. I went into this thinking it was going to be a Recreation, but it wasn't. It was just a repeat.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 8:It was very disappointing, but like it's not their fault, it's my fault. I should have did my research, because if I did my research properly, I Would have just illegally watched this online. I wouldn't have went into the movie.
Speaker 1:They was a teacher of both right.
Speaker 8:Yeah, she was. There were all of the teachers, the gym teacher, the principal, tina Fey. Tina Fey and the, the, the character who was originally the principal, the black man, are now married in in this version. It's just none of it, none. No, I thought that this movie was going to develop or further the story, but it didn't. It was just the musical version. We didn't need it.
Speaker 8:Yeah, you could just kept this on Broadway, you heard, you could have kept this on Broadway, and then Lindsay was in the movie at the end as like a teacher.
Speaker 1:No, she was in the, she was the oh.
Speaker 8:She was. She was the mediator at the the. The math, the math lawn, the math league, the competition. Did you hear what she got upset, though? What does she get upset at?
Speaker 1:so they're. Megan Astellian is presented a few times in kind of like the to present the social media aspect of what's going on, to kind of see how big it is.
Speaker 8:Oh, yeah, she. She pops up a couple times.
Speaker 1:So in there she used the word firecrotch, and it's come about that that word was used to be disrespected to. Oh, no, lindsay.
Speaker 1:Lohan. Oh and directly for a situation she had with another, another actor or something like that, or producers, and they called her a firecrotch in it. And she has spoke out against that and saying you know it was derogatory things that nature, and so a lot of people were upset that they end up using that line from Megan Astellian in the movie. When she was a Pardon, you know, they paid her half a million dollars for that.
Speaker 5:Oh hey they pay that 17 seconds that she was in that movie that.
Speaker 8:I think, so good for Lizzie, Honestly that's her. She been on tiktok looking. Well, no, that's the man of Bines. My bad, no, I was gonna say that it's just a man of Bines been on tiktok looking crazy.
Speaker 1:No, it was just funny cuz. It just supported my theory regarding you know the whole.
Speaker 1:You know discussion with the black actresses and you know the money, because if she got 500k for that, I think I don't know she got 500. Okay, this will happen. She got 500k for the original Mean girls and then when she did that 500k I was just saying that that's way more than Taraji ever Ever got for any of the movies that she did. So I just thought that was interesting. But y'all can't hate on Lindsay. She get it. She go crazy and she went. She went. She was pretty good.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at her performance A lot of things that you could probably be said About this movie but I'm not mad at it. I'm pretty much a supporter of. It Wasn't too bad. It's gonna be higher up there, but I 100% enjoy the. The prior movie before this one, this one wasn't even close like, but again, it's a musical, so what can you expect?
Speaker 1:And then, when it comes to the two Regina's like, again, I know it's gonna sound bad because we're comparing the outlooks of women, but the first Regina that came out she was the quintessential White privilege woman, like. She was slim, she was pretty, she was, had everything going for her, she was snarky. But this girl right here again, why I appreciate a thicker lady. You know, in regards to certain things. Again, my main, my main thing is a this beautiful Slender goddess over here, but I'm not mad at her for it, I'm not mad in for even trying to to change it up. It's just it don't hit the same when she ain't a Skinny white girl. No, I'm sorry when I like, when I, when I see the girl who plays her now, I think that it's niggas that Probably shouldn't think they have a chance with her, that they got a chance with her Just cuz she heavy set and I didn't like none of the pants she had.
Speaker 8:She's a she like women, like the whole, like in real life, like that's a lesbian.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like that in the movie, the show we watch, but in this right here and then we can wrap it up in this part. She just didn't give the kind of energy that Regina George and original did like. I felt like I knew I felt like this Regina girl George. I could see her with a brother that Maybe wasn't making minimum wage like this.
Speaker 8:Regina George felt like she was being Mean because of her insecurities the original yeah.
Speaker 8:George felt like she was being mean because she genuinely felt like she was superior to these bitches. Yeah, so it was very different and it was a different like vibe. So Really quick back to the, the musical numbers. 14 songs were cut from the original Musical. I think my favorite musical number I Saw a lot of people when I was like watching reviews and stuff not like the Halloween Party scene from Karen's character, but I think because she was the cutest, most attractive, sexiest out of the entire cast that Her musical number was my favorite because she was doing like the like she. She really gave me like the mean girls aesthetic, like she was unapologetically sexy and I really like that. I think, on the opposite end, the worst Musical number was Regina George's introducing my name is Reggie they did it twice, didn't they?
Speaker 8:watch. They did it twice. It was clunky, it was wordy, it was awkward. I hated it. It made me feel like let's get through it so we can get over it. I did not like it at all. This entire movie did not elevate the original source work at all. I feel like if you're gonna do us an adaptation, then you need to elevate things.
Speaker 8:I Feel like Tina Fey took the easiest way To make a 2023 mean girls is to take all the bitches and let's and hoes 2024, a 2024 mean girls is all you did was take all the bitches and sluts and hoes out of it and you left literally everything else the same. All you did was take out. You went through the script. You took out the word bitch, you took out the word slut, that was it. Well, you did not do anything like a like Revolutionary whatsoever. It was literally so boring. There were so many other ways that you could have represented the way girls are mean to each other now, which is Very different than it was when you made mean girls. Like social media comes into play. Like there's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had internet, but it wasn't. It didn't really affect the way, no, it was really, would it?
Speaker 8:was just a supporting like thing in in the Because it was.
Speaker 1:If it was real, you would have had a Counter showing how she was getting bigger.
Speaker 8:Regina was getting bigger through the months the only thing that shows you that social media changed the story is because, instead of Regina Printing out multiple pages of the burn book over and over again and spreading it through the halls of the, the, the school, she just dropped it in the middle of the school and all the girls just shared the contents of the page. It's just of the pages of the, the burn book. That's the only thing that you saw that social media made a difference in, but I think that y'all should have put more effort into how girls are mean to each other, and 2024 Versus 2004, because they are very different types of mean and I think y'all genuinely dropped the ball on that.
Speaker 8:I'm highly disappointed in this entire project. I Gave up giving my money to so many new black Projects because of the nostalgia that I felt. I Abandoned my blackness and went with my womanhood on the picking of movies, time, a white supremacy, and that was a mistake. So, yeah, there was no nuance or change in anything and yeah, mean girls was fucking go Bitch, and then, at the end, and then, at the end of the day, katie, you was made as fuck, katie was not hot enough.
Speaker 8:So you were saying that like I don't know what you meant by the girls now versus the girls then, because all of the original mean girls Looked way more mature and like they were way older than high school age than these girls do now. These girls look like they might Actually be in high school. They just not as sexy like give me 25 year old women.
Speaker 1:Being 18 year olds.
Speaker 8:Yeah, if that's what it takes.
Speaker 1:It wasn't 21.
Speaker 8:I want the 23 to 25 year old women playing 17 year olds. They wasn't doing that. If I'm gonna get bad bitches like, give me that like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:It was more so 20.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I took the bad bitches from Winx Club. Yeah, I took the bad bitches from, from mean girls. What the fuck else are you gonna take the bad bitches from? Just like I said, as a black woman, I don't need y'all Make these random characters black. Just make new black characters. As a skinny slim bad bitch I'm sorry, bitch, but as a skinny slim bad bitch, I don't need you to take all the bad Bitch for real way. I just need you to make bad bitches that are fat. Just make bad bitches. Originally from jump period, such a white girl, like when I'm a as a skinny girl complaining about Representation as a skinny girl in the media, I feel like a white woman. Because specifically as a black woman like my black slim no ass, not it. You gotta be thick to be black. Nobody talks about that. Get the fuck out of here. Let's move on. Let's move on. So the next it's a Ward season baby.
Speaker 1:Ward season.
Speaker 8:Everybody's getting no words. So you want to start with the golden globes or the Emmys.
Speaker 1:We can start with the golden globes. I can get there, man. Joe Troy, joe Coy, you really shit. The brick ran. Lot of folks was talking about you and they was not proud of your performance. That Taylor Swift joke really killed you. But I don't think you're back, comedian.
Speaker 8:So Joe Coy is the Filipino.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the guy I've been on a breakfast club he's, he's done around that, um, he had such a big year to be nominated for anything. This year he wasn't nominated.
Speaker 1:He was the host oh, okay, but he was really bad because he apparently he got the job like 10 or 11 days before. Well, that's fucked up. So he kind of had to go out there and like, basically the joke that Put them in the hole was the joke he said about Taylor Swift and the fact that they didn't fail over Presents her and that the golden gold would do that. But I wanted to get into some of the winners of the Golden Globe. Yes, let's get into.
Speaker 8:So um real quick before, because we didn't make our lists like in any Accordance or we didn't be fair the Emmys kind of got pushed back because of the the strike.
Speaker 1:So that's why I got pushed into this year right here. Okay so there's been a lot of you know BS going on. That's not has to do with anytime. Small creators like ourselves.
Speaker 8:I was gonna say that I made my list for the Emmys and he made his list. For what?
Speaker 1:the Golden Globes, the Golden I.
Speaker 8:Specifically made my list for only the blacks. I Don't know if we agree. That's what I was gonna say. I don't know if we agreed. I was gonna go over the top. Yeah on what we were gonna go over, cuz I'm only going over the top black Acts.
Speaker 1:What I was gonna go over top Actress. So best motion picture for drama opera hammer one. I Thought that was pretty big. For that I brought my head a big year. They definitely did both.
Speaker 1:Best most of picture for animated was the boy in the heron. I didn't see that. I was more so. Leave no spider man. I was surprised regarding that. I'm trying to think of some more here. Best performance by a female actor in a motion picture Lily glass stone and killers of the flower moon, and I think like the one thing about them.
Speaker 1:I don't know who none of these fucking people are about to say. The one thing about the Golden Globes is it's kind of really hard to Get the no crowd in because they don't really go for that. They kind of go for like performance and things. That it just why.
Speaker 8:It's a little more indeed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why you see a lot more like a Poor things one, a lot opera highmer one. No, they did they did crazy. I'm gonna say smaller. When I say I mean like they're more so focused on the art of it. Okay not necessarily the. Who's? Budget so like opera, highmer did numbers, like Robert Aaron Jr, one, yeah, their director, one they want for original score. They literally was sweep house, the only like Barbie did do original Song. And then, in regards to TV wars, of course, a session clean house.
Speaker 8:Yeah session.
Speaker 1:Clean house at the Emmys also a session in the bear clean house like crazy. They did really well. But I mean for the most part like the main takeaway from the Golden Globes was just Joe Coy's bad Performance. Like everybody hated his stand up.
Speaker 8:Actually didn't even come across the fact that the Golden Globes had a Host. I know that the Emmys specifically didn't have a host.
Speaker 1:Anthony ever, though, or Anthony Anderson. No, there was somebody on the SNL cast that was like, please, like there wasn't a host or somebody, I don't know they were talking about Anderson and I know you say you didn't want to talk about his past in proprieties, but that was the main thing I got from him was a Lot of people was writing articles about why he was still okay to be performing. We're not going to tell what you was about to say okay.
Speaker 8:So yeah, anthony Anderson did host the 2024 Emmys. My list is my list is very different from rhetoric's list because I I Generally scroll past the Like I don't. I don't write everyone who wins things, I write people who win things that I give a fuck about, right. So we're gonna go through the list of Emmy winners that Farah gave a damn about. So I, oh I Don't want outstanding supporting actress in a comedy series for the bear, which I absolutely love. I'm gonna hold off on my like general Opinion of that winning because it goes into a Category so.
Speaker 8:I just like I I'm really excited to talk about her, so I'm gonna hold that off until I I finished my list. Next is Quinta Brunson. So she won outstanding leading actress in a comedy series, which I think is like super, super, super Writing wise, acting wise. You have Gone out like not going out of your. You have somehow made a show that has replaced the office.
Speaker 1:Parker.
Speaker 8:X parks and like all of those shows and like those, those comfort, like shows that I can watch over and over and over again and for those people with anxiety that like to watch those things over and over and over again that they know will bring them joy, like your show Abbott elementary like has definitely, I think, for a lot of people has has been added to that list. So I absolutely love that. And then also I owe is Quinta's sister On Abela elementary and they're both on the show.
Speaker 8:Yeah, and they're both Emmy winners now, which is like I Love that. I love that so much so I owe Quinta. Next is Nisi Nash. So Nisi Nash won. She won Outstanding leading actress. No, she went outstanding supporting leading actress in a limited or or anthology series. So for Dahmer her role in Dahmer was absolutely amazing. I think it captivated all of us in. I Think her role made like there's just like the regular person seemed like more, more Susceptible to this, and then it made black people seem like, oh, like I could have been, like I could have been her character, and I think only Nisi Nash could have played that character in a way that made us feel like we have so much Humility that we would be in the same position as her. But she's so sweet and she comes off so sweet. I wouldn't have been in that same position. I wouldn't have let that nigga near my shit at all. Period, point blank.
Speaker 1:So no, I want to play her her speech because I think the way that she Reacted to her war is kind of counterproductive to a lot of people's feelings on these award shows. But I just want you to hear it.
Speaker 8:I didn't hear it, but yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 6:You to the most high for this divine moment. Thank you, ryan Murphy, for seeing me. Evan Peters, I love you. Netflix, every single person who voted for me, thank you. I'm my bad. I have who picked me up when I was gutted from this work. Thank you, and you know who I want to thank. I want to thank me and I want to say to myself, in front of all you beautiful people gone, girl, with your bad. Finally, on behalf of every black and brown woman who has gone unheard yet Over Cleveland, like Sandra Bland, Okay, so I wanted to.
Speaker 1:Problem I had with this is a lot of black artists, when it comes to Grammys and other wars like that, have always said that these wars don't mean nothing, and it's hard to feel like that. It's true when you have a prominent black woman Going crazy for winning the award.
Speaker 8:It's always gonna be black people who stand on business 100%, and black people who tap dance, and Both those black people are always gonna be highly represented, I think. Not because they're both very polarizing and they both garner a lot of attention. So I think a character like what Nisi Nash is portraying, being so thankful for her proximity to whiteness that it finally led her to notoriety- Because I mean, you don't never see no BT award reaction like that? No, you don't never never, never, never, never no.
Speaker 11:NAACP award anything that that's like that she was crying, calling for her mama.
Speaker 1:She was proud of herself. No, I'm not mad at her for it, but at some token you can't be mad at the result of you valuing this white product. Because, at the same token, there's gonna devalue you at the end of the day it's, it's.
Speaker 8:I think, as a Black woman, as far as intersectionality goes, it's a fine line to walk between like wanting to gain their respectability and everything of being perceived as a classy woman and then, on the other side, like being Wanted to be respected as, like a strong black figure, like there's, it's. It's really like the. The flip-flop is really different and it's very interesting and I don't I Genuinely don't think that anybody goes through the nuance that a black woman goes through with her identity, especially when you're being educated. I think there's a very hard difference between like am I a coon or or am I gonna be this like, perceive, like it's either, genuinely, either you're a coon or you're perceived as like this very pro black like.
Speaker 1:I think one of the problems that y'all have is that y'all look at that like an individual struggle, like y'all can Definitely pull out the racism continue yeah no, y'all definitely can pull out the racism and the sexism when it affects you, but then when it comes to y'all View and criticism of y'all male counterparts, it just doesn't reflect the same. Y'all can tell us all All the time how black men have oppressed you and things of that nature.
Speaker 8:Okay, but y'all can't tell us. I don't like that, I don't like where this conversation is going. I feel like. I feel like, in the conversation that I'm having of like black women who are, like, specifically aware of this, I feel like in the argument of intersectionality, we usually like I'm just speaking for myself usually pick black blackness over womanhood.
Speaker 1:No, I would disagree.
Speaker 8:You. Okay, I would disagree.
Speaker 1:There's more often than not, women hood will be pushed over blackness.
Speaker 8:Dude, let me ask you in for the cameras. A person like do you think me personally, what do you think I pick usually before anything else? Do you think I pick womanhood or blackness, or like? I do think there is like a slight teeter-tottering like between, like there is like a middle where you you have to pick black because black womanhood Different than womanhood, but then blackness is different than blackness. Black womanhood is a completely different experience in the middle.
Speaker 1:Respectfully, I would say that you probably pick whatever is convenient at the time.
Speaker 8:I Would be. I genuinely am not mad at that. I would be more mad, honestly, and I would be more offended if you said that I picked womanhood over blackness, more than no you pick whatever's gonna be. Okay, no, I'm not, I'm not offended by that at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean it's very much so Circumstantial to whatever you need to be done at that particular time.
Speaker 8:I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that, in my personal view, would observe me that I would take less for myself If I knew that my people were getting more and so I didn't that. I think that's why I may potentially be viewed From people who actually know me a little bit differently in regards to that, but I just feel like I Mean, I don't feel like it's rude to say that. I just feel like, yeah, that you would be very concerned regarding that, more than the latter. Hmm.
Speaker 1:I Tell people, I tell when, when shit start going exclusive on patreon, this is the motherfucking need to play. Not me gonna be her, she could be the motherfucker just trying to Turn this into Chanel bags.
Speaker 8:It's that, but also, if you really like, if you really want to get into the, the root of the differences between Our things is just like I'm you To just having anything in general see the land niggas.
Speaker 8:That's just different and I never thought I would get here as fast as I did. So I just feel like I am entitled to To More than somebody who was building. No, it's, it's not that it's the responsible thing to do. I don't think it is the responsible thing to do. I think it's more like being a newborn baby versus an adult right like.
Speaker 1:I mean you're almost 30, so I mean I'm almost 30.
Speaker 8:It's your parents were born and raised in the US, in this society, in this specific capitalistic state of mind, and know the rules to this, and you were raised with these rules versus. I had to teach myself these rules right and I had to Make my own set of shit to follow, regardless of like what my parents did, but like they were fucking winging it for real, and I knew that. So I don't think that we can equate our Growth as far as like financial freedom and things of that nature.
Speaker 1:You think that I was doing that. I Wasn't trying to equate those two.
Speaker 8:This is where I'm, this where I've been led to in my drinking and we're on, we're on camera, like as I've been talking. This is where I'm at now, so this is where we're at now.
Speaker 1:Go along with it, so I'm trying to make sure my stances wasn't being misconstrued.
Speaker 8:But yeah, that's where we have different. We have completely different states of mind. I feel like we've been on a tangent for way too long, was that it, though, I mean that was everything on my. Okay, so that's why we were on a tangent for so long.
Speaker 1:I mean everything I've been on my doctor. I don't know if you was finished with yours.
Speaker 8:No, okay, so, oh so, emmy, the rest of the Emmy winners that's where we were on. So succession won a myriad of Awards, including outstanding drama series. So we both love succession. I think succession is a great series. Kiki Palmer won Outstanding game show host. There were there was a good amount of black women who won things this year.
Speaker 1:Well, they had to appease y'all. They now give me out of money y'all want.
Speaker 8:Yeah, so.
Speaker 8:I just think that Seeing like very nerd, oh fuck, okay, I got seeing very nerdy black girls win For the past couple years, like Issa Rae, I, oh, like Quinta. I See myself in black women like Issa and Quinta and I oh Way more than I did in like Halle Berry and shit like that, like I love. I love that for you, halle. But I genuinely feel like my type of black girl is Winning for real and I've never, I've never felt like the awkward white wash, like we're just here and we're surviving type of black girl was ever gonna thrive until Issa, and Then I, oh right after, and then no, and then Quinta and I was a god, how do you?
Speaker 1:how do you put?
Speaker 8:I own that situation, though, because Because she's a very wash black girl.
Speaker 1:Okay, but that should make you feel worse about the situation then, because?
Speaker 8:everything. I've always felt like a white wash black girl.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying about just for you individual, okay. I'm talking about in the genre, in whole. If she's a white wash black girl and she's getting this so much attention, what chances does the black woman who focuses on black?
Speaker 8:art. Let me explain that to you, because the black woman who has been more loud, more outspoken, more everything else has been the focus. The black girl who has different, slightly nerdy, um types of like they're like what they're interested in is a little bit more nerdy has, has not been To the force, she hasn't been the main type of black girl.
Speaker 1:Can you agree with that? But there's a reason why, though she wears she's the she's the Can we stop. She's the. Can we stop, so she's not. So we stop, that way can we stop.
Speaker 8:Can we just agree? That the that the regular black girl you've seen has been either ghetto or wildly nerdy and whitewashed.
Speaker 1:That's what I is. Okay, right, so she's not changing anything.
Speaker 8:You always tell me to shut up while you trying to make points you're literally talking to me.
Speaker 8:Okay. So I feel like as a black girl who Teeter tottered that line between like yes, I have a black identity but at the same time, like I don't fully identify with the African American Like society and rhetoric and everything, because she is African and I'm also an immigrant like that identity 100%. I Love seeing that way more and it resonated way more with me with IO, with Issa saying that she was awkward and Didn't like talking in front of people like that. There has only recently been a representation of Black girls like me in the past like five years Follow us on all the social.
Speaker 8:I'm not done. I'm not done.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of this. It's cool be sit over there and be tired of it.
Speaker 8:Alright, so all of the social media, at talk F and F, that TV, at Facebook, on Instagram, on Twitter and all of the things. Love you Bye.
Speaker 1:We're not out All right. So I want to thank y'all for listening why you gonna walk in front of camera do spag. I just want to thank y'all. Man, let y'all know life is a labor of love, so keep building together and remember your job is not your family, and the only thing that you should exploit is these corporations talking FF TV. Well, thank y'all for listening and come back next week. We out here, baby.