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Speaker 3:Yeah, Real breaking bad like level shit that's going on in our country. It is. I can't say that I thought these two individuals were like the next Harriet Tubman, and you know what I'm saying. Like it Malvin X Traged it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I never felt like these two individuals were that.
Speaker 3:The fate of life is the baby he is trying.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he's really, he's like. No, he put his nephew. He's clawing for relevancy.
Speaker 3:Miss Farah, Miss Reality.
Speaker 1:Hello, hello, hello.
Speaker 3:You good.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm wonderful.
Speaker 3:That's good. That's good man. I'm happy to hear it. We were recording at a different time than we normally do, a different day. Mm-hmm. So it's a little bit. You know, we gotta get into the groove a little bit, you know. It's a little different. Yeah, we gotta get everything back right. But you know how we like to start with the F and F jams, so let's get to the music. That up there, that's the end game. How are you guys planning on beating that?
Speaker 7:Together.
Speaker 3:We'll lose.
Speaker 8:And we'll do that together too. Tell them, Steve.
Speaker 9:Mm-hmm, we'll stand, baby, you're fine. Baby, you're mine. Baby, I'll treat you like a princess. When they nigga playin' with me, I'm beat. When I'm slappin' my dog, my bad hoes come off. The south Got thick hoes in the west. Them no hoes. Where is that Damn? I'm beat when I'm knees out.
Speaker 9:I don't bust up with a check you with that nigga right now, but you know I'm comin' next. I keep repeatin' pussy PA, baby, pop that cap. I take a shot, turn you up. I shit you never had. You know who I am? Baby, fuck a $4,000 dollar. Call that bitch my grand baby. She won't be Louisa baby, it's Louisa baby, told her. Don't forget to say the baby Know I need you. Baby. I'm in seat to baby Dreaming like I'm all the Rita baby. I'm a skater baby Round me. These bitches lose control. Find this keepin' baby, told him. They never come around. They don't give a shit, they just make me hungry. Eyeball and work. Don't need the skills. I'm a leap, I'm a homie Fuckin' right. You got the eye. You got the eye. You got the eye. Run the lights, yellow diamonds, nobody knife you fine. Baby. I'm snobby. Baby, I'm five and that's four nine. Baby Pello on my new bitch and these hoes look like they just hit a crowd. Baby, look ten, what's that baby? Yeah, baby 21.
Speaker 6:Nope Said something Red rum, red rum red rum, red rum, red rum.
Speaker 8:Playback.
Speaker 6:Ha ha, Red rum, red rum red rum, n***a, how we noise Riding in the back. It's a mate. 32 shots in the cave, mad. Than I really run the A. Say you touch me how I sway, how I sway, hipnotize. They do what I say. 21 n****s, don't play. J5 said hey, take my chopper everywhere. That's Bates.
Speaker 8:That's Bates All right one time for the most impolite. Come on, come on In the world. And when it all falls down, I say fuck the police. That's how I treat them. We buy way out of jail but we can't buy freedom. We'll buy a lot of clothes, but we don't really need them. Things we buy to cover up what's inside, cause they made us hate ourself and love it. Well, that's why, shorty, silent, with a ball of satin Drug dealer by Jordan Crack, hit by crack and the white man get paid off all of that.
Speaker 8:But I ain't even gonna crack, I'm gonna use my crowns and dabs. Fuck it. I want you to take the whip. You wanna be found out Before I had a house and I'd do it again. I don't wanna be your one on six in the park pushing the bands. I wanna add it for all of it. Like it's all terrific. I got a couple pass-through bills. I'm gonna get specific. I got a problem with spending before I get it. Shout out. We all self-conscious. I'm just a few people out there. Baby, yeah, come on, come on, yeah, baby, we here with it.
Speaker 3:All right, we are live in full effect. Baby, that's how we had to start. You notice, I did repeat a song. I was by accident. I did a good song. It is.
Speaker 3:And I'm not even the biggest fan of 21 Fane. All right, you're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, rhetoric. I'm with my lovely, amazing and wonderful co-host, miss Rhea-Reality, and we back here to give y'all some of the most important things, some of the most not important things, trivial matters, non-continental matters, some of the serious matters, some of them. But we also going to give you a good time. All right, now let's get into this man. I feel bad that we have to do this. I do Because I can't say that I thought these two individuals were like the next Harriet Tubman and you know what I'm saying Like Malcolm.
Speaker 9:X.
Speaker 3:Tragic. You know what I mean. I never felt like these two individuals were that, but just to see some of their behavior as of lately, it's just disappointing. So the people who were in question Consciously which is a wow that was always a wow name to me, consciously was wow. And then she goes by. She has a few different names, but on Twitter or X she is Keating 6. We'll be referring to her as Christine.
Speaker 3:I believe that's what her name is but let's just kind of give a synopsis of what's going on here. So we talked about this a few months ago on our show about the Brick Lady Ro. That's her name, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, ro Ro reports on Instagram and you know. Just to give you a synopsis of the story, she said that she was attacked with a brick by a random man. She then went to the internet for assistance and help. She was given mixed responses A lot of women support, a lot of men saying that she was lying and, or, you know, got what she deserved. I saw some of that people saying that that was probably some of the worst of it because of former content that she's done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, social media.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so then that's where it happens, you know. So she goes out, they start a go fund me. It started for her to help her with their medical expenses and whatnot, and that's when pretty much the wildfire comes out. You got Daphne going crazy. Queen of Accountability Been calling up the HDPD on her since this shit happened. No, for real, like, if you look at the article that came out, the queen of accountability in there, and then on her Twitter page she's been going. Oh no, that was me. Yeah, I did it Telling everybody.
Speaker 1:So that's crazy.
Speaker 3:So more information came out and the authorities said that there was like a video where it showed that she was in the car with the gent with multiple people. She gets out of a car, she has an altercation with the guy, he hits him, in which they they know that she hit him first. He responds by hitting her with a plastic water bottle. So that was a big thing that was in question. Was it a? Brick. Was it a water bottle? What kind of water bottle was it?
Speaker 1:Was it a Stanley Cup?
Speaker 3:Yeah, was it a was it a Yeti? Yeah, because if it was, then but what it sounds like to say it was a plastic cup. He hit her with and the report notes it as mutual combat.
Speaker 1:So they were fighting with each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was a dispute between each other. She tried to make it seem like she didn't know who this individual was that attacked her. She also tried to make it seem like she was assaulted by a brick and no one did anything.
Speaker 1:So the gentleman was in the car with her that assaulted her.
Speaker 3:What? It seems like they were in the car together. Like this could happen, like this.
Speaker 1:Let's just say what happened to all the people that were in the car with her. Why have they not said anything?
Speaker 3:Maybe they know she on bullshit.
Speaker 1:Maybe there's multiple people in the car with you and they watch you get assaulted.
Speaker 3:Again that goes into question. What could have been going on? So we can get into theory time before we we kick some backs in my theory, maybe potentially that this was somebody that she was seeing, maybe a relationship that wasn't that serious and one party's eyes.
Speaker 1:But then why come out and say that it was a stranger?
Speaker 3:Because you're trying to cap, you're trying to finesse.
Speaker 1:That's just. It's also too messy for me at this point.
Speaker 3:If you say it's a stranger, you feed into the idea and the victimization like men are just coming out of nowhere to attack women, rather than know. I was just in a situation that I initiated the violence and someone responded with violence to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, most of the time it's not a random person attacking you.
Speaker 3:I mean most any kind of taxes, most times people that you know it's rarely ever going to be just a random assault like that. But that was like another thing where people were filling up like a attack, especially as black men, where it's like you trying to paint us as these wild, vicious people, when no, this was, if anything, this is an attack that was happened because there was conflict.
Speaker 1:And then also she, the men who were bystanders, and she made them seem like they just watched her get assaulted to like nobody. All of the black men in this situation on both sides just look terrible and that was like initially.
Speaker 3:And one of the big things that came from that was like we were getting straight, because this woman was making up a story that just made us look bad and it fed into most women's fears.
Speaker 5:And that's why I was protected, and that's what it went, and randomly, attacked.
Speaker 3:And then what are you going to do? You're going to give your money to somebody who you feel is going through something you're feeling like. But let's see, where was I getting that to? Dang, I forgot.
Speaker 1:I was getting somewhere so consciously, and Keating said they posted something about her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, so they came up to defend her consciously. He even did like a whole little story. I don't want to go into that one. I was a little that's because even in his video where he was trying to like tell people, oh, she wasn't lying, he even showed in there where it said it was mutual combat she initiated first, which he didn't. Well, he ignored that part to about her initiating the violence and just went on this whole. I'm a shit on the black men who are not on her side. Like that was like where he was aiming at, where it was like no, like we got more information.
Speaker 3:You tried your superhero cape. It's time to take it off and give it a knee. Like even if, even if you want to address the fact that she was attacked by somebody else, like the fact that she lied and at no point corrected the story, even if you could say after the attack she didn't know what was going on. She was delirious and made a story. She never clarified it. You never clarified anything. She never went back and clarified anything. She just let it go and I don't think she ever touched the gof me, gof me money, did she?
Speaker 1:know it was frozen before she even got to her goal.
Speaker 3:Okay so she never touched that money and consciously kind of she, always kind of attempts to try to keep himself with some type of validity. He now brings in Miss, you know, keith Keating, six or Christina. He brings in Christina. She's already been on shawty side the whole time trying to say like, oh, she's not lying, she printed out hospital records, audit, other stuff, where she's been on her side the whole time and even when more information has come out, she's refused to you know, admit, continue caping.
Speaker 3:And then she, then she creates this, this video, which, again, her content is hilarious, but let's just play this video.
Speaker 11:You know that that plays my mind every single day. Who would be the slaves that have to wear a pillow podcast you like? Why did? Why did Harriet need to go? What were they saying to her? You know what I'm gonna say? Something real scientific Coonerie. Coonerie is a genetic mutation that is passed down to the dreams of the bloodline you. You inherit that because of Caucasian Caucasity. If black people are not allowed to wear a pillow podcast, it's passed down. Colored Coonerie, no, no, because imagine picking the same Bush, LaTot and right as a and he's telling you what you need to do as a wife. What meal you need to make.
Speaker 11:That is a man with a podcast and no job. That is his great, great, great uncle, the black overseers. Who's with the slaves? Black cops I don't think y'all are hearing me for real. They bullied me because I was like, okay, who that sound like? You just mad, I'm in the house, you just dead. That's the same, just the same family line. They had Insta back in the day. They would have accounts talking about at Milado, milate, black people who own black slaves, black capitalists. Y'all would be buying them 100% cotton t-shirts talking about the black, or us by us on the tag. No, they were telling Harriet she was in her masculine energy, I, she was trying to take them to freedom and I know they were like you and your masculinity. Who were the Coons back in the day? Right, right, what were their stories? Who is in their bloodline? Now, because let's get into the etymology. Y'all see what I see Letters, you know what else I got letters.
Speaker 11:Periodic table of elements. Chemistry. Now, the body, brothers and sisters, is made out of six elements on that periodic table Carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, c O, n. Now, I know you're talking about this, spells, con, this, this, this ain't Coon, brothers and sisters, brothers and sisters, what is the chemistry equation of oxygen? O, two C, double O N, two O's Coon, you know the God that plays?
Speaker 1:Ah, she killed me just now. That was highly entertaining.
Speaker 3:And, like I said, I don't really have an issue with a lot of her content and I don't have a lot issue with a lot of consciously content. What I have an issue with is that they're disingenuous and when the narrative is against their primary objective, instead of either staying out of it, they just try to double down and it's like okay, I understand To me. When it's like in the content space, that's one thing, but when you are trying to at least pretend to be somebody who is about advocacy and like, again, feminism is their top objective, they literally put feminism over black national. If something's going on and it has something to do with a woman, a black woman, they're going to put that over.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's more womanism technically.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what, that's the normal process and what they're going to do. We've seen this on the internet since the beginning and that's why it's assaulting to me, because when I came on the internet in 2010 or 2009,. Like, the feminists were a little bit more more consistent. So if you were like, if they had feelings about something and your actions displayed those feelings, they were critical of those actions, regardless of who you were. It wasn't until, like Feminist Jones, tyreek, like it wasn't until those kind of guys came in or in women came in that tried to make it where it's like, oh, every point that I stand on is for this objective and agenda, and like I feel like it poisoned everybody with that, because now we don't even have like real dialogue anymore, because you're going to like, even with us, like you're going to defend your side and you're going to feel like I'm defending my side. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like we can't even feel, like we're having a good faith conversation, and that's the problem I have with it, because even with Consciously promoting her, she's shitting on niggas like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you I don't know you don't have a black girl. I don't know who he's married to, but the woman is not black.
Speaker 3:That is not a black woman you're with, and so she's been heavily critical, heavily on niggas like you.
Speaker 1:But she would never criticize him specifically.
Speaker 3:She would have if it needed, if need be.
Speaker 1:You think she would? Oh, hell yeah, I don't think they would criticize each other. No, he would.
Speaker 3:He probably wouldn't criticize her because that's going to hurt his base, but she would definitely criticize him because that's only going to strengthen her base. You're right, he's literally a black man, she's literally what he was describing.
Speaker 3:That video where he posted that video on his page and said points were made. She was talking about niggas like you two a degree Was she? She was to a degree and then when you get into her other content, that's what really pissed me off about it. That's what really, because I used to fuck with her until the Jonathan Majors trial and it was just so disengaged, it was just so disingenuous that she was trying to like paint him to be like this. I'm trying to think of a crazy person who was like doing domestic violence in a movie. She tried to paint like he was killmonger, killing a chick in Black Panther.
Speaker 1:I was about to say OJ.
Speaker 3:Well, oj killed a white woman, so I'm pretty sure. Well, I don't know, maybe her. I don't know, I don't think she would stand with OJ, probably not. That's crazy. I'm trying to stay with OJ.
Speaker 1:So I mean, you know, I take that back. She, I feel like she might have no she would.
Speaker 3:She would have been acting like we were all disingenuous for trying to defend the murderer of a woman and saying and she would have had to relate how all this would have came back to us. Oh, it always comes back here, to the black woman, to the black woman's pain. And I get.
Speaker 3:I just feel like you are a very intelligent woman. You make good content. Just be genuine. You don't have to be this fake critical person on everything and you take the people who are, at the end of the day, going to be who you're going to need on your side and just shit on them continually. I'm not saying, don't be critical. We over here talk FNF TV. We critical of everybody. But you can go here and you can say what I want. She jokes about me being misogynist and all that other shit. There's plenty of topics that I was in favor of the woman because I felt she was right. Like so you can, you can, you can say what you want about me and y'all can make it whatever. Like oh, this nigga got his girl on the show trying to shit on shit on us. But it's like no, y'all niggas are not. Y'all niggas are sons of D-Ray, sons and daughters of D-Ray. You remember D-Ray with the blue vest? Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's who these guys are. Y'all are waiting for your political check. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Keep it a.
Speaker 3:B. That's what they are. They're trying to be the next. What happened to D-Ray? He got it. He got his check, his little podcast. He interviewed Katy Perry and he was done.
Speaker 1:Why was he interviewing Katy?
Speaker 3:Perry. He was trying to. He was trying to his his shot at the entertainment game.
Speaker 1:Oh, so he was just trying to leave the black empowerment movement altogether and just be in Hollywood.
Speaker 3:He was trying to push his own brand and I'm pretty sure we looked at him. Now he probably working for like some political shit now where he don't have to be a spokesperson. But, like I said, at the end of the day it's like it's so counterproductive because all they want to do is line themselves Like I'm pretty sure, like what do you think that their end goal is? Because she, she's a PhD and you know, essentially, I would think, with gender studies, I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1:I'm not 100% sure. Like I think I follow her on TikTok but I don't see her content. That much I don't think consciously is a teacher.
Speaker 3:But he's not a like a PhD degree person.
Speaker 1:No, I think he teaches she's. She has a PhD, but I don't like elementary school.
Speaker 3:She has like one of those PhDs where it's not like in something that, like that's gonna move the future in a in a tangible way.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it isn't.
Speaker 3:It isn't, what the hell it's not going to move the future Like it's like, it's like you are not calling this woman's PhD useless.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying it's not. It's not one of those things that is tangible. It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, she's gonna be a thought leader, yeah, but it's like if motherfuckers stop caring about your thoughts or, in that, if society moves away from those thoughts, it's plenty of people who they pull out quotes in the woodwork that niggas don't talk about anymore, but during their time they was that nigga, so I mean that could really happen in her field. It's not like she can invent a chip that's going to be used in every computer. Moving forward, I don't know A tech wizard.
Speaker 1:I don't know what her goal is, but I want to see her. I want to show like I want to see her on some.
Speaker 3:I want to see her discussing things with other people who are educated to her level, because I just feel like, even if she wants to move forward with like a goal, it's if you're being content, like conflict is if it's conflict that's being pushed every time in your narratives, like how do you, how do you plan on finding it into your to your goal Unless. The goal is to always have conflict, because that's always going to bring in capital.
Speaker 1:I think the her content that goes viral that you see if you don't follow her is conflict and things that might feel like her narrative is like pulling people apart. But that's not her, her general con. Most of the stuff that I see from her on like my for you page, like she's talking about black people and black issues and black women, but it's not divisive or in any way. You know.
Speaker 3:I mean, I guess it could be just my algorithm when it comes, when it comes from her.
Speaker 1:The video I'm thinking about that, um, I pops up in my head is like her and one of her friends and they're just like bouncing back and forth, just like ridiculous ideas, and it's really interesting. I think she's just smart and she's also funny and she's witty and she's entertaining to to watch.
Speaker 3:Like she's like the. You know, like back on the old TV shows, like on UP and stuff, they had that one girl who just needed to get fucked, like she was always tense and she was always like irritable to people and she just needed to get a dude in her life just to back that. You know, knock it out of the frame one to one. A good time. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:She just, she just tweeted this.
Speaker 3:I'm not. I'm not pulling this out my ass. She just tweeted this.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:She was like, oh, I need some good back shots or something like that, but ain't no nigga worthy of this, that bullshit. You don't be trying to pull out your ass.
Speaker 1:That's what she need. That is hilarious. She I was about to say she looked like she can get some dick whenever she really want to get it, I mean you know how y'all like to do.
Speaker 3:I like to play the. Oh, there's no one worthy for this when it's like you know, you're giving the drug dealer down the road the box the drug dealer down the road is crazy.
Speaker 1:You know you should give him the box. Hopefully you just have old faithful somewhere in the tuck.
Speaker 3:It don't sound like that. It sounds like to me my experience with women like that it was never, it's never, can really last for a really long time, because they're just going to find something to be agitated about. Like that's what they're good at. They're good at being divisive, they're good at using their, their words and being funny and clever, and that's what's always going to bump into people. Like I feel like if her circle isn't an echo chamber, there's always people getting in and out, like she probably has like a roller coaster of friends that come in and out because she could be divisive. I don't know, I don't like to speculate on these people.
Speaker 3:man, it's fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, seeing her in Iraq with her friends, specifically on her social media. I don't know if it's, I don't know if I agree with that, I don't know if I'm well, I mean that could be the echo chamber, yeah it might be that, but we should get them on the show, talk to both consciously in her.
Speaker 3:We get them on two separate times and just I want to see what they're. I really want to get to like what is their end goal and what would they want to see moving forward and what? What compromises on their end are they willing to to make to get to that?
Speaker 1:when I first started seeing consciously content Like his end goal was just to educate people on things like did you know this? I don't know what it is now yeah it's. It's different now, but it's very political in its conception. It was just trying to educate people.
Speaker 3:He's over there chucking it up with Joe Biden and stuff. Can't wait to get a picture. At the Christmas party he was with Joe Biden. Yeah, there's a whole picture of him, ear to ear, fucking, smiling, grinning like a fucking Cheshire cat.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:Like, no, like. These people have narratives, they have agendas, and it's not people, it's them. That's why it's like I'm just not with a lot of the shit that I see when it gets to the.
Speaker 1:Joe is really trying to get the young blacks to the young black people to vote for him, but this was an old picture, though.
Speaker 3:This is something like I don't. I don't think it was this Christmas. You, this is an old picture like they've been in bed with the party for a while now. That's what I'm saying, man, like all this stuff is like it's really concerning All this stuff is super political, like they have a clear message to go through, like they're there, they have agendas, bro, they get scripts. You know I wouldn't. I wouldn't have to tell me if they don't? I want to know how much money she's gotten from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1:Has she been.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure both of them have. I haven't seen any political pictures with her, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's working with other groups, getting some type of some type of influence to do what she's doing. I wouldn't put it past her. She doesn't know about her speeches and stuff.
Speaker 1:That shit don't happen just because you fucking speeches where, what speeches like at schools and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:She's okay, she does speeches like colleges and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I mean, she has a PhD.
Speaker 3:I'm just I'm just telling you that you don't get. You don't do a lot of that stuff if you not In bed with a lot of these folks, right in a real way, but like. So we'll see if we can get them on a show in the future. All right, let's switch them, switch gears a little bit here. Did you want to go to towards? We want to just mention Joe Biden at the cookout real quick, oh yeah we can do that.
Speaker 3:We was on that topic Joe Biden is sick yo, so it was out of. Y'all saw the post that came out. This man had cookout with a teacher in North Carolina.
Speaker 1:He went to his house.
Speaker 3:This is a nasty election year. Yo yeah, that's what they, that's what it look like he was in his kitchen in bro Cookout.
Speaker 1:So I guess Joe Biden is sponsored by cookout. This is a nasty. Is this.
Speaker 3:is this worse than when Trump bought the McDonald's for the, for the, for the football players and stuff when they won a championship?
Speaker 1:I think Trump's is worse only because they had to go to him for that bullshit. And if you come over with some with some burgers and fries, that's different.
Speaker 3:You come over to my house with some cookout and I didn't ask you to it's up. Don't come over with that, Because if I want to go by get that trash, I go by that trash myself. Don't come with that garbage.
Speaker 1:That is crazy, Like why would you go to cookout of all places? They say they have hot dogs on the menu. You hate black people.
Speaker 3:Joe Biden. Obviously he has a black people because you you didn't cover no vegetables. You know what I'm saying. Came in with the food, desert food, I'm not with that, I'm not with that, Joe, but you could have. You could have came with some flower child you want nice you want my vote and you out here pulling up with the cookout. That's disgraceful. You could have just spitted it.
Speaker 1:Brought him a meal from the White House, a home cooked meal in a little tupperware pan, all cute and stuff that would have been even cuter I would have got you some points.
Speaker 3:You look like you actually had some flavor and some soul. Now you just look like you, cheap. Like you can't even take a date. First date on the cookout. I noticed the first time you met this man. Like you, you couldn't bring some Zach's piece.
Speaker 1:And then you couldn't even like support a local business instead, like why do you cook out of all places? You could have just picked a small mom pop place and then their logo on the bag would have been all over the news. That would have been great. You would have been getting really good press from that, regardless of what the food look like.
Speaker 3:Do you know? Cookout has like a 95% success rate, like anywhere they put, they are laundering money. Now how can they launder money? Because they them, them lines be wrapped around. People go to cookout.
Speaker 1:I've never gone to cookout for more than a milkshake mattress firm launder's money.
Speaker 3:My just run is definitely yeah, but cookout.
Speaker 1:You buy a mattress like once every, like five, ten years.
Speaker 3:Cookout. Niggas fuck with cookout. Cookout is fucking. They have their.
Speaker 1:Their milkshake menu is like this big and this long, so I like it for that, but that's literally it Cookout is like the crack of fast food.
Speaker 3:Like they took McDonald's, which you could say is like cheap cocaine, and they just put the bacon sold in and stretched it out.
Speaker 1:And that's cookout. And it's only in the south because they're not. Cookout is not available in New York.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's just water, burger and all that other shit they got like over in West Coast.
Speaker 1:We don't have any water burger.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think about what we had Like.
Speaker 1:JFK fried chicken. Oh my God, I missed the fries from JFK fried chicken. Lord, that's what I want every time I go to New York. I eat nothing but garbage. I go to bodega's. I be eating deli sandwiches. I be eating JFK fried chicken, chicken and fries. All I want is is garbage the whole time I'm there. I want dollar pizza. I love New York cheap food. It's probably not even that cheap anymore.
Speaker 3:All right, so we got to get into. We got to talk about babies. Oh man.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 3:I came to you, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I came across this video on TikTok and as soon as I saw it I was unsettled. Like the first time I saw it, I didn't even finish watching it because I felt so awkward watching it. I was like why is he? First of all, why is he brushing this baby's hair so hard? Second, this is this baby is fresh out the womb. Like why are you go ahead play?
Speaker 3:it and okay.
Speaker 1:And I'm where I go into my not going to put it on the screen, but he has a very scary bald head.
Speaker 3:He looks like Lex Luthor like he does. He looks like gay Lex Luthor. He looks like Lex Luthor from Smallville. Let's listen.
Speaker 2:Parents, we have adopted a black baby. Her name is Zoe and I don't know what to do for her hair.
Speaker 1:I have this little brush and she's like two months old. Leave her the fuck alone.
Speaker 2:Any black parents or anyone who knows what to do with black children tear. Please help me in the comments.
Speaker 1:Thank you, he said hey guys, I just bought a black baby. I'm going to be making content with this baby. This is the baby I'm soft launching my content, baby.
Speaker 3:This was a sick rollout for the black baby.
Speaker 1:This was a sick back black baby rollout because you literally could have just went to YouTube and scroll through the millions of videos that black moms have made telling you how to take care of the black babies hair, like there's so many mommy influencers. There's so many mommy influencers that have posted, like so many hair routines that you could have looked up. But instead you, you decided to trap this little newborn on on a TikTok so that, so that you could, you could gain monetarily from her. So after this, apparently he's already posted sponsored content with hair companies with this baby.
Speaker 3:And the jump like that. That's wild man we're going to do it. We need to talk about we stay on, stay on this, but we need to talk about how a Caucasian face can really push the algorithm. No, we're definitely going to stay on this.
Speaker 3:No, sometimes I'm just talking about a side topic one day we discuss is how, when you have a Caucasian face on something, how it pushes that the algorithm will push you a lot faster and further than if you didn't. But no, let's get into this some more. So he is it, just him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I did. I did some research and I went into a little rabbit hole that I did not know of. So all of this research comes from the TikTok word of state. His name is Carlos I couldn't find his last name but the TikTok is word of state.
Speaker 3:So shout out to you good sir, is he a good sir?
Speaker 1:Yes, I think. So good day, my bad if you are, I don't know. So this was a legal private adoption. So a legal private adoption is the adoption of a child for money who is not in state custody or in the custody of a licensed adoption aid adoption agency. So this child is and this is completely legal. So in some, some states don't allow this for fear of just like outright people selling babies like this is insane. So, and then for fear of also like children being placed in homes that are unsafe for them and with people that are unfit parents.
Speaker 1:So the name of the guy in the video his name is will will and his husband I assume his partner are both convicted felons, both convicted felons who, combined, have over a hundred felony charges, not convictions I was reading something that was. Are some of them violent? Some of them are violent and some of them are hold on. So none of them are child abuse or sex crime related, but they do include violent and drug felonies. So both of them are recovering addicts. Both of them have been like clean for over 10 years, okay, so that is to mention that also, so they might have completely recovered. And then when you got a pass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you are somebody with the drug addiction, problems like felonies and crime and things of that nature do generally follow. So that's probably why they have over a hundred felony charges between the two of them, not all of them are convictions.
Speaker 1:Convictions, though. So that's the the information about the parents. So Zoe, where does Zoe come from? Zoe is a child of a 23 year old former foster youth who already has three children. So two of the children that she had are with her and then one of them apparently is with like a family member or friend. So I forgot to mention that all of this information comes from Will.
Speaker 1:So Carlos, the guy who runs the ward of state TikTok, had a one hour call with Will because he himself is a child of foster care and he has a child adoption advocacy group and he does childhood adoption advocacy work. So he had a call with Will to voice all of the concerns that generally social media has been telling, has been commenting, and also like his own concerns. So Zoe is a child of a 23 year old former foster youth who already has three children to her in her care. One is with a family friend. Statistically, 75% of women who grow up in foster care are going to have a child before they turn 19. So it's not her fault whatsoever. She didn't just like sell her baby, if anybody's thinking that. I don't know if anybody's thinking that.
Speaker 3:So you said, she already has kids already.
Speaker 1:She has three, so this is child number four that she gave up for adoption. Okay, she's getting sharp, yeah. So, the third one. The third one is with a family member or a friend, and this is Zoe is the fourth baby, so Zoe has been adopted through a private agency. So I did not know about private adoptions at all. I didn't know that you could just like buy a baby, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like an old fashioned trafficking.
Speaker 1:I thought you would have to go through like the foster care system and adopt that way. And that even explains more why these children are left in foster cares for Mad long, because people who can afford to just buy a baby because, according to Carlos will has already paid about like $7,000 and will probably pay to like three to $5,000 more.
Speaker 3:So that's like less than grand baby less than $15,000 to buy a.
Speaker 1:You say you already paid seven.
Speaker 3:He got three more. Yeah, he got three to five more. Oh, three to five, christy, yeah.
Speaker 1:So like that's not, that's not that much money to buy a human being, like that's really crazy. Black babies are cheap too, so it's. It's a completely different problem in like other countries, like less developed countries, because so in. Let me continue and then I'll bring this up, because that is also a good point that I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 1:In private Adoptions they have completely different system and requirements for the parents. They do not do Do background checks that are as rigorous as the the government's foster care system would do. So people who have felonies, people who have a Child abuse in their history, can literally just buy a baby, and are they buying it from a company or is it like? A their private agencies.
Speaker 3:These are private companies, so it's like it's like basically could be like an individual who just is putting two people together.
Speaker 1:Yes, so the agencies have.
Speaker 3:Like you know how do you like?
Speaker 1:So there there are ads there, there, ads that are just like can you not take care of your baby? Oh, do you want to give?
Speaker 3:your baby a better life. Get into it. Get into it, okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, do you want to give your baby a better life? Sell your baby to us, straight out. Just put ads on for it.
Speaker 3:So like you know, like when you're driving up the road and you come to the stop sign and then at the corner say we buy junk cars, we buy junk babies.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're not junk babies, though, but like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean they, mama did a little. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:So there's no government oversight whatsoever in this process. It's a completely private industry. They hire an adoption social worker.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's how you legitimize to look for a baby to adopt.
Speaker 1:So these people, the the slaying for them is a baby broker. So hold on, they use government Workers they're not facilitate the clients, some they're not government workers per se social. Yeah, so there, that's what they're called in this system.
Speaker 3:Is there private social workers? I mean, I'm just I don't know if they I've never heard any social work I've ever heard is a government social worker.
Speaker 1:I Don't know if they're government, so I don't think they're government. Social workers.
Speaker 3:I think they're called. What I'm saying is private sector what I'm saying is there is a private sector of social workers.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're there. They're not licensed by the government. None of this is government sanctioned.
Speaker 3:I know, okay, I understand what you're saying in regards to that being sanctioned, but the person who's the facilitator, the social worker, that I can that's literally just a label but I mean that's still.
Speaker 1:It a job in a title, yeah but I don't think I think you're getting too hung up on, like the, the social work that like you have to Get licensed to do for the government and them just calling it because they're also called baby.
Speaker 3:Says right here social workers in private practice. You can have a private practice for social work.
Speaker 1:So you can get your license to sell babies you can get to do social work. Social work, but to do this specifically because I didn't well, they're not to sell in the babies.
Speaker 3:What they're doing is they're legitimized social workers in the state. From what I'm looking right here, your legitimized social worker in the state, but you can practice on your own like within. Okay, so this way says overview clinical social workers and a private practice working solo or group practices. So this is essentially somebody who can have their own company doing social work and they're Helping disenfranchised people and now they're funneling like part of that is, I know women and children who are in bad situations that I can Now put you in a better one, because if she has these other kids in there you said she just had a friend, you know a kid with another friend. So you already have a situation with a social worker. I see this woman and got pregnant again. Now I can start feeding her head. Hey, you know, you know you're having this baby. You know you can't take care of it. Let me help Get into a hands of somebody that can yeah, so.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's crazy. So they hire an adoption social worker to look for a baby to adopt, aka like a baby broker, a baby broker or someone who tries to find their client a baby. In this situation, the baby broker was their lawyer.
Speaker 3:Okay, let me add one more thing here too. So they said the private practice services that they can offer Can be primary care, courts, schools and nursing facilities. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's a whole system that a lot of people are trying to get private adoption to just Go away. They're trying to abolish private adoption because it's not illegal but it's completely immoral 100.
Speaker 3:there's definitely need some more regulations, yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:So the baby broker in this situation was their lawyer. It's not always a social worker. You you don't have to be a social worker to, I guess find babies to sell. In a lot of these situations the clients are coerced to give up their babies and sell them and it's generally like $10,000 for the price. If you're in like a lower developed cut, like a third world, I don't like using that third world country. People be getting like $50 $200 for their babies, like they have no idea what's really going on, what they're signing away to and then like it's a completely closed Adoption. The the child has no right to their birth certificate, their original birth certificate. A new birth certificate is made with the adoptees Names on it. It's a whole like a racer of your past man, I mean.
Speaker 3:I just I grew up in a home where we took in a lot of foster kids and most of them were black. So like I know people have good faith intentions with it, but we didn't get babies like we got kids like 11, 12, 14, like we got kids middle school, high school. So like I've never been in an experience where it was like a young child and baby, like it just seems, especially with this private adoption. It does seem like I don't even care that he's gay, I just care that like he's not vetted, like there is no system, a hundred.
Speaker 1:Felony charges between the two of them combine 100 felony charges between the two of them combined the two fathers not convictions, but charges they.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's just with a hundred.
Speaker 1:Anything is crazy.
Speaker 3:Yes especially doing with the courts. So it's like and I'm getting, I'm not they would have never been able to adopt through a regular like government facilitated adoption agency like they wouldn't have met the requirements whatsoever, which is why they had to do this.
Speaker 1:And then will Carlos Explains this to will will, I guess, in the call, also Acknowledges that this whole system is fucked up and he knows that he had to go this way to get the baby because of his past and He'll move forward and not Like Make content with the baby and he'll like learn from his mistakes and hopefully, is it little babies? Oh, he is, is in a good situation, but I did not know that babies were straight up getting sold.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've known that especially all around the world where, like there is traffic, like I remember when I was coming up, but heavily when I was coming up, having the Asian baby was the, was the vibe Amongst, you know, the people who were doing the adoption like that used to be the. The cool Thing to do was get a kid from from Asia, a little baby from Asia that had a little cleft lip one of the one of the worst Countries that this happens is in is Cambodia.
Speaker 3:I can see that. I can see that because I I knew somebody who was from Cambodia and she told me about A lot of that that was going on, a lot of the child traffic in this stuff. It just it got out of hand.
Speaker 3:And it's crazy because, like the, the I think the real issue I know I had with it, seeing it, was just the whole use of children for content. Like I'm very against like putting kids out there for content, especially at that young age, like they don't know the consequences, they don't know the repercussions, they don't have an idea of who's seeing this and then, like you don't know, have an idea who's seeing this and what they're doing with the content that you do when you put your child out there and it's just it's gross because you it makes. It reminds me of a few different stories, but it reminds me. The first one that comes to mind is shawty, who had the baby. They tried to adopt the baby and then they found out they couldn't use the baby for on content for like the first year and then they returned the baby YouTubers Mika and James Stoffer.
Speaker 3:We shooting at these ones right here. Hold on, let me get the board going one time for these trash human beings.
Speaker 1:So they, they adopted this baby, they made a, they had their whole content journey getting the baby and going through the process and everything. And then they announced that they had the baby and then they realized that they couldn't make content with the baby anymore. And then they made another video saying that like something happened and for his well-being, they sent him back.
Speaker 3:Trash people, bro, like it's terrible people it's disgusting how y'all would just use kids in that manner, because they didn't ask for any of this. They just want a nice home, they just want some clean sheets, and y'all over here treating them like their commodity.
Speaker 1:Your child is is like I never thought about it until, like you brought it up, but like your child can't consent to that, their whole life being monetized and followed like that, like that's kind of that's very weird.
Speaker 3:It's way worse than the child actor stuff that was going on like in the 80s and the 90s, like these folks no it's way different because there's at least a very different. No, you know why it's different. Because at least there was a contract being done, at least there was an agent there, at least there was a whole. These folks is just a camera and a kid trying to make different strokes, and these kids a lot of the times like can't say no, I mean there was no chance for them to say no, like there's never a chance for them to not consent to this like I.
Speaker 3:Come on, man. We remember seeing videos of the girl who actually was on live and she was trying to fake the appall it. You know her and her son crying, trying to get her son to cry about.
Speaker 1:Like we've seen people it's very like kids and to try to make content out of it Like um, what was I about to bring? Up, it was Damn. I completely forgot.
Speaker 1:Oh, um, what's her name, shy moss, so Bowel. I was daughter. Her mom came out a couple months ago and she was trying to fake the appall it. You know, her and her son crying Mom came out a couple months ago and was like that last video I made with her I forced her to do that. Like she was so unhappy doing that. She had previously told me that like she did not want to be on social media anymore. Her friends are saying stuff about it and she's uncomfortable with it.
Speaker 3:And yeah, good for you, shy, like don't you got to stand up for yourself because, you'll have these crazy parents out here who do content themselves and because they shit is getting stale and dry, they can't burn themselves on fire anymore. They get a day out here again Do being a dooboy by their boss twice a week or four times a week on their shows. And now they got to promote their kids to try to make content. And it's like, bro, you y'all already admitted y'all not mature enough to handle anything like this. Why are y'all putting kids in the limelight in the fire to be shot at? Because y'all gonna get in y'all feelings when somebody judge these kids and y'all gonna be one to call the authorities and all this other stuff. When you got nasty people looking at your children, that was one thing about me I never like to do. Like, the only time I ever really posted a picture of my son was like when he got a little bit older.
Speaker 3:It's when I got older too and kind of understood what was going on and he got a little bit older and he just asked me to post a picture and I did it. But that was because he asked me and I explained it to him too like why I don't do it, like that's because, like bro, there's nasty people on internet.
Speaker 1:There's very creepy people all over the place. And then I wonder I wonder, like when y'all post content of your children and then you have like 500 bookmarks on it, like what do you that doesn't creep y'all out? Like what do you think is people are saving your child for?
Speaker 3:Like I even think about the. Have you ever gone on YouTube? Because I remember I was watching Joe Rogan and they talked to me have you ever gone on YouTube and looked at the little cheer competition? Videos yes, those comments be vile. If it wasn't for, like the, the YouTube changing up the the algorithm so that they block potentially harmful comments, those comments used to be vile. It was disgusting what the man was saying about them little girls performing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was trying to find the, the name of the, the page on tiktok, but there's this guy that he's a. He's a stepdad to this little girl. The kids just got taken away by CPS, so he consistently posts content like poking fun in her body and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:The big girl little yeah, oh yeah, I remember that one too. Yeah, so it's just another one.
Speaker 1:The kids got taken away by CPS.
Speaker 3:But you see, it's funny though is, the black people always get their kids taken away, no problem.
Speaker 1:So he was posting content like making fun of her and it was really weird. It was uncomfortable to watch people. He posted a video of this little girl she's a little bit overweight and he posted a video of her getting a gift and it was slim tummy tea which somebody sent her, which, like whoever sent that to her? If somebody did, that's messed up and then why would you record that? But that's what he does. He embarrasses her on a regular basis. He records her eating all the time. He'll like deprive her of food when she's like begging that she's hungry or something like that.
Speaker 3:But the first video was wasn't like she was crying because her sister ate her food, or something like that? Yeah that was like the first video that started all of it.
Speaker 1:So the kids got taken away by CPS and then they post the video and then she's just like yeah, the kids got taken today and they told me to pack this stuff, this stuff, it's already folded up.
Speaker 3:Y'all niggas have no shame, so, like, like, how do you? To me I would be too embarrassed to even want to go back for the, for the, the, the turnaround.
Speaker 1:The kids don't even got their stuff yet. You haven't even sent them their stuff and you already made a video about it.
Speaker 3:And making content. You seen it? You seen the other girl who had the baby in the trash bag? You see that? No, there's a video of a woman she's like going through a supermarket like Walmart or something, and the baby is in a trash bag in the cart.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's in a puffer jacket. He's in a puffer jacket, in a diaper, and it's cold outside. And then everyone's like call the cops, like why, why does this baby have no clothes on? But he was in a puffer jacket. That's obviously not for a baby, that's for, like, a toddler.
Speaker 3:That was a jacket that should look like a trash bag that he had on.
Speaker 1:It was a black puffer jacket. That's why it looked like a trash bag. That's why it looked like a fucking trash bag on and they were like why you got like you're fully clothed, with boots on and everything, and this baby has on a diaper.
Speaker 3:That shit was crazy. But they were saying like because she was saying call the people or stuff, and somebody was in the common was like you could tell just somebody who know what CPS is looking for and anytime they come they know exactly what to do. So there's not, they can't take the kid.
Speaker 1:She. They said they was gonna call the cops. She was, she started twerking and stuff. She was like, go ahead, call the cops CPS and already been here over and over and over again. Like I know CPS already.
Speaker 3:That's what she said so it's, it's crazy, man. Hey, we hope these kids, hope the best for these kids, man, that's why I tell you, man, we need to stop bombing these niggas and start putting more government Make healthy birth control available. We have to start putting more legislation that makes being a parent more advantageous like or not even just advantageous, just makes it more easier, because at this time, right now, we don't have legislation that is conducive for parenting.
Speaker 1:Other than taxes.
Speaker 3:It's not even just taxes.
Speaker 3:It's like that yeah, you get that right off, but if you don't, if you're not making no money, taxes don't mean shit. You know what I'm saying. If you're not getting a substantial amount, taxes don't mean shit. So it's just. It could be very simple what people could do, but we have this individual mindset and we just don't care. Like it's no reason why every woman who gets pregnant shouldn't get a check for the kid and then a check after their service. Like you don't have to be the same amount. You can decrease it once the kid has reached a certain age. But like we all win when there's people are right. Like we need a healthy group of people coming around and we need women to be in a position to be able to raise these kids instead of working for the fucking system.
Speaker 1:Yes, if they want to do that, but if you don't want to do that, then we need to have safe abortions available for everyone, and we need to have comprehensive sex education in schools.
Speaker 1:That's where it starts. Before even deciding on having the child, you need to know your options and you need to know that if you don't want to have a child, then you're not going to be forced to do so and then you're not going to be stuck in pigeonhole in this life for God knows how long and then so many traumatic things are going to happen to you and that child Like it's a horrible situation altogether.
Speaker 3:You think that girl, the little baby Zoe mama, might maybe like a little special needs or something too.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I just know that that's a lot of kids at what she's like.
Speaker 3:She's 23, yeah, 23, 3 at 23, but that's like. Before and you already gave up the third one.
Speaker 1:But statistically like that's why I? I put that in there like she. She wasn't in a good position anyways. What happens to girls in her situation? In foster? Foster youth girls begin pregnant by 19? They be having their first baby at 19.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I mean by 23.
Speaker 1:She, she did one a year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that that is not the case. My thing is usually also in those situations like the woman has a false sense of security or she ain't all the way there in the head, and that's why I, like you know, I'm saying like you've seen that before where, like the special need girl pregnant and shit like no, I don't think she's special needs at all.
Speaker 1:I think she's probably disenfranchised and disenfranchised and poor people have nothing but time on their hands, and one of the best things to do with your time this is fuck, oh no for and then we don't even know what she may have been.
Speaker 3:A lot of speculation there From a lady named Alethea and I just thought this she was hilarious. So this lady Did something I didn't know was they was even doing it anymore. She got excommunicated from her church For real, no lie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know, they did that still like that shit was like oh, it's like you know used to be. When you got the scholar letter, you know they would. They would kick you out the church. But like she she over here, let me just read this. Okay, so she gets a letter in the mail from the church, along with the check that she paid, I guess, for some counseling that her and her husband were getting, and they gave her three reasons why they were removing her from the church. I'm gonna read, read them to you and just to give you Let you know what's going on.
Speaker 3:So you initiated the separation in your marriage to Josh without good cause. Say that you wanted to begin a relationship with another man. It seems you have no desire to keep your family together and this has caused a great deal of hurt to you, your husband, your children and many others. And then, in quotations this being unfaithful to the marriage vow, this being unfaithful to the marriage vow that you took before God, you continue to post many un-Christian and even in decent pictures and messages on various social media sites. Over the past many months, you've also been very posting that ass on Instagram.
Speaker 3:You've also been very negative and critical of many of our church family, I believe to try talking shit. I believe, to try to take attention off your real needs, which you do not. You have refused counsel or advice from your husband. You're not listening to no damn body your pastor and many others close church family, nobody who really care about you and have tried to help Brooke. That's her name, brooke Brooke. Contrary to what you've tried to convince us, you really are not in a very good place right now.
Speaker 5:We know you faking we know you ain't got no money.
Speaker 3:Shit when the when the church reads you like that and they give you back your tie. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz the church don't give money back.
Speaker 3:The church will get. The church will be like how they can they consider the pharmaceutical industry? We're just gonna keep Pushing out this no cure just for the problem, so that you keep coming back for us. That's what church is, and the fact that you got a date is sick.
Speaker 1:They gave you your money back at church. That's like you can't even come back. What were you posting?
Speaker 3:I wanted. I need to see those pictures. Brooke, she was posting full full frontal nudity full Booty whole pictures in the name of this church is the island to church of God. I'm gonna skip of God a prophecy. That's a lot right. There's a lot of us right there. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. They gave her fire. I'll check back.
Speaker 1:So that's that's that's the end of it.
Speaker 3:That's a real Jezebel right there. Yeah, that's all, that's all they had for. That's a real Jezebel I wanted it to keep going.
Speaker 1:I wanted them to keep reading her.
Speaker 3:I need, I needed some more. I need to go in. We need to call Brooke.
Speaker 1:I want, I want the second and third page of this, like post the rest of it, brooke.
Speaker 3:That should happen last year. Oh really, oh see just she's just now posting it, okay.
Speaker 1:She got her shit together and it's like all right, let me.
Speaker 3:let me post this and show y'all what these, these Monsters did to me so like when you go to the next church they be like so what? So what was your last church? Like, what happened at your last church? Do you even like bring that up? You just, you just let that ride, I'm not even a question that people ask.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, they do.
Speaker 3:They'll ask you about your last church in your last, because the other pastor would want to know. You know this is a good sucker right here. You know they can call the other pastor. No, it's just a. It's a good tree to stop off of or what's going on here?
Speaker 1:No, the past is gonna be like no.
Speaker 3:I ain't it. You don't want Brooke.
Speaker 1:Brooke a wild gal. I mean, depending on the pastor, they might definitely want. Brooke Pass is gonna call the the old one. He's gonna be like what's going on with Brooke? Oh, past is gonna be like Brooke is a Jezebel. She'd be posting booty pics on Instagram and she cheater, she cheats on her husband and she'd be sucking dick in the in the pew. And then the, the new pastor, gonna be like New past is gonna be like oh, that's crazy. What is the Instagram Does she be posting? Said salacious, send full pictures on.
Speaker 3:Honor, let me pray for I need to put several hands. Around the.
Speaker 1:Lord.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we got to get into some serious man. It's it's been. This was crazy to me. This is like some real breaking bad, like level shit that's going on in our country.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 3:I'm about to just put you on. So this is a clip. Santas Plago is who posted it, but I don't think this is his content. But I just want you. I just take a listen. It's a three-minute clip, but it's. I won't play the whole thing, but it's worth worth taking a check it out.
Speaker 7:So I forgot to mention. Trank prices are kept fixed by the cartel. The original crooked veterinarian at the top of the supply chain doesn't sell to the Trank brothers or anyone directly. They sell wholesale to a broker who works for a Mexican drug cartel. What are those guys like? Steady. They want to do what I'm doing. Do they kind of control things on like a high level? Yes, they do.
Speaker 3:He's talking to a man in all black safety.
Speaker 7:I don't want to say which one, but the cartel sets a fixed price for xylosine bottles and closely monitors Trank as it travels down the supply chain, particularly as it moves from the Trank brothers onto the blocks like Kensington. If any blocks are found to be cutting and weakening Trank to maximize profit or getting xylosine from outside veterinarians, they would almost instantly be killed and the cartel doesn't have to do it themselves Really.
Speaker 7:Just like a bag on somebody's head and that word just kind of circulates around. In the past year, though, this market has become increasingly difficult to regulate due to an overseas manufacturer called Han Hong Pharmaceuticals, which is an unregulated company based in Wuhan, china. This company, which should be a household name, is funded directly by the infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology, but I like having a YouTube channel, so I'm gonna save my cross analysis for a later date. Han Hong Pharmaceuticals was recently revealed to be the company solely responsible for selling fentanyl precursors to the Mexican drug cartels, who then bake these chemicals in the laboratory into pills and powder to import into the United States. Because of the success of the open-air Trank market in Philadelphia, this company recently figured out about xylosine, and so, about a year ago, han Hong began selling their own variant of xylosine, but, instead of liquid, in a powder form for only $20 a kilo, which they've been attempting to sell to drug dealers in Philadelphia On platforms like telegram and what's that? Unlike the trade of fentanyl, which requires the cartel, as a middleman, to bake the precursors, han Hong's invention of powdered xylosine allows them to cut out the cartel as a middleman and sell directly to dealers.
Speaker 7:For a period of time, this was a real game changer for trunk dealers. However, this majorly weakened the control of the cartel, who had already set a fixed price for liquid xylosine bottles, leading them to impose a death sentence on anyone caught receiving or trading powder and Chinese xylosine. This green light on someone's life, however, is imposed remotely Because Philadelphia is so poor. All the cartel has to do is contact the city's gang leaders through private channels with someone's picture, their name and the price, and the following days a feeding frenzy for that person's life will ensue 3 gunmen firing dozens of shots in broad daylight, killing a 19 year old man who was sitting on some steps. From an outside perspective, it may look like gang warfare or just simply black-on-black crime, but it's actually a proxy war between Chinese corporations and Mexican drug cartels. For this reason, the advent of tranc in Philadelphia has led to a major spike in homicides and almost nobody If you don't think this shit is happening in every major city, you are a big fool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 3:Like. This is the shit that I'm glad that there's somebody who's being the shine a light on this. But just listen to this shit. This shit is straight out of some breaking bad. Like somebody would write this, like these folks. Not only are these this, this is they clone Tyrone. Basically, but this is like it's, even it might be more sinister.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's more sinister because just think about it, like, just think about the picture he just painted. He said that these Chinese companies are Supplying them with what they need for the fentanyl and also Cutting them out of the deal for the trink, like they're literally banking on both sides and then they're going directly into black neighborhoods in the United States and and wreaking havoc.
Speaker 1:The drugs are coming from them, the violence is coming from them, like it's all.
Speaker 3:and then we have these individuals, these conservative individuals, talking about black-on-black crime and all this other shit, when it's like no nigga, this isn't black-on-black crime, it's a fucking proxy war. Yeah, being fought what it is with black bodies, not, not a, not a Mexican cartel. Nigga got a die for this. Now the not a Chinese corporate leader got a die for this. Nothing but black bodies who gonna die from the product and from the commerce Was needed for the logistics of the commerce.
Speaker 1:What happens if all the all the black people just decide to stop all together?
Speaker 3:It's not just the black people, though. This is disenfranchised people, so trailer park Franchise people. There's gonna be more. There's always gonna be disenfranchised people. That's how the system works.
Speaker 1:Like what? If they're just like you know what, fuck it. We're not selling your shit anymore then they're gonna kill you. They gonna kill everybody.
Speaker 3:You think of a nick that we can put people in here. Bro, we got, if I want, if I have, the fears that people really want to have and we can just send folks off the border and you gonna send them to sanctuary is around the country. What do I care if y'all, if I have to kill off every fucking black person that's selling that, that's buying and selling my, my product, I can just send an agent so I can. That's just super conspiracy with it. But this is shit. Right here, where Document it?
Speaker 3:Like the nigga is talking to one of the trink brothers about what's going on in the city. Yeah, this is real, it's happening like. And for people to talk about this and try to criticize our community when we have so many outside forces that are affecting our daily decision-making Like that just makes me like just a hearing about them killing that 19-year-old boy. That makes me think about some of the shootings that I've heard about and seeing of young kids and what they really got killed for. It wasn't a dispute that they was having. He was buying something from somebody else and somebody was committing a hit.
Speaker 1:Like you really just got a notification on what's that for somebody's picture and then everyone is trying to kill you.
Speaker 3:It's like some John Wick shit. It is that's exactly what happened on John Wick, and then again they try to talk to the dissent. That's why I hate crazy.
Speaker 1:That's really crazy to think of. That's that's going on babies getting sold and then black people are getting used to fight in Wars where we're making crumbs of the money.
Speaker 3:If you think about it, it's only one person.
Speaker 1:All of the risk, the lowest reward.
Speaker 3:Fuck us, yeah, every time and it's just this, this mentality of I gotta get mine, that goes from the top down, yep, and we just keep passing the buck off until we get the young crash out who don't know no better. And now he on the floor On the ground, or he got somebody else on the floor on the ground in blood. He didn't lost his life because he's going to jail for a few years, but because he a kid oh he gonna get out and be able to come back.
Speaker 3:You know it's just nasty work and we keep getting a blame, like where these creatures that can't be civilized, when it's like there's so much disenfranchisement Around us and y'all are taking advantage of that. Yo, it's, it's unfortunate, but you can get a lot of shit done by giving a black man a lot of cash or a poor man it at that a lot of cash at once and I'm pretty sure deep, like with the price drop on this, if we actually looked at it in the percentages of it and the cuts and all this stuff and the splits is like, bro, you, y'all niggas, just killed each other, probably for like 10 racks show.
Speaker 1:Not even that, and then in like in comparison to what these people are making. You just killed the man for a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember they were. I was just reading about just trying to keep control. I didn't get to watch it yet, but the Griseltas just came out tonight and they were saying she was making like 80 million dollars a month.
Speaker 1:We're gonna watch it after this.
Speaker 3:But they were saying she was made. So just think that's a bill, almost a billion dollars a year, and that's the kind of money. That was in the 70s and 80s, like that was back in the day. So just imagine what I would. I would argue that these cartels might be trillionaires.
Speaker 3:They are like, like when you actually did a real. If you were to do a real surface evaluation, it's trillionaires and you can't imagine what these folks would do just for a little bit of that. So it's fucked up, man. I just man, just be just be aware of what's going on, risk high rewards. Stop using there. There's like black black on black crime and stuff like that is not. No, this is a proxy war between countries that and people who Don't care about the people that fight like.
Speaker 1:There's, we do in.
Speaker 3:Africa the shit they doing in Africa with the proxy war in Africa. They just doing it right here in our communities. Don't forget that.
Speaker 1:That's their bag.
Speaker 3:Let's light it up now. We've been. That was. That was intense.
Speaker 1:Well, this has been a slightly more serious episode.
Speaker 3:It has been trying to lighten it up a little bit here and there, but it's we also what we gotta do we gotta do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we went to school for journalism. We attack the hard topics. Sometimes we do journalism.
Speaker 3:Thanks, we bring the hard topics. You did really good on that, so let's get into the some fun or shit right now. Uh, fun or shit, some fun or shit. My mixtapes On Twitter had dropped a list that says the top ten rappers that fell off. Yes. I'm gonna start from the bottom, all right. So polo G, you familiar apology.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm familiar. Prology is he. He's not in jail, all right, he's just it. Just to me, the problem with oh, I know polo G, because his girlfriend is gorgeous and she's actually like a brown skin woman, which these niggas don't be doing.
Speaker 3:I think the thing with polo G, and I'm not trying to question your gangster, but when your mama, your manager and your rap sheet is really like on the low end, it's really hard to kind of for folks to kind of adopt you as this tough rapper.
Speaker 1:Why do y'all need to be tough like? You could have just came out as a artsy nigga and you could have. You would have been fine. Like look at me a little yachty. He's super successful in his little bubble that he has maintained for himself.
Speaker 3:I agree. But I mean to me the A step young. When you, when you take a step back and look at polo G cuz I've looked at stuff, he's had little altercations in the streets and whatnot but when you take a step back and look at it and and really Incomposite, it's a reason why he doesn't get the same. Looks like a dirk in the way Von and it was all looked at cuz, like your shit, don't look real legitimate. And I'm not trying to say you're not a tough nigga, you could be, you might shoot me but Just saying from the outside, look it in it, look like you.
Speaker 3:You don't have to be but just for now, I think you need to be, but you don't technically have to be from outside. Look it in, it just looks. It looks funny in the light. That's all. Meek mill is number 10.
Speaker 1:For obvious reasons he can't fucking put a complete sentence together on on X that nigga is Incoherent and stupid as fuck and in meek mill is one of my least favorite people that I've had the disservice to just like in the celebrity what's like some like spear side guys. I've it's been like forced upon me. I'm regular basis.
Speaker 3:I feel like these next few people I'm about to name should be higher on the list. But it's the baby. Oh no, it's me. Roddy rich, the baby designer and little pump. So what, roddy rich designer, ben fell off. Yeah, that was before. It was before you started jacking on the airplane Like he was you really fellow went, you gave.
Speaker 1:Would you do that? Sometimes you got pulled up a through sometimes you got pulled a monkey out.
Speaker 3:That's like really crazy. Sometimes sometimes you just got without. But Roddy rich I I agree with this one because that first Single and his first album I thought this nigga was always gonna be on the air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then?
Speaker 3:Like I thought he was going either. If on, I felt like on the low end of his career he would have been the hook guy, like you'd have been, like how quavo used to be and how sway Lee Used to be, I thought he was gonna be the next hook guy. If at the worst and then at the best, I thought he was gonna have real hits, but nothing really too much came out in his last project. It was a little bit better, but still not nothing that really hit the people. And then, of course, the baby we knew that was he was gonna fall off for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the baby Been hitting bitches left and right I will say this upper, cutting women all over the goddamn United States Like.
Speaker 3:I will say, just keeping it hip-hop. And in his music, in this motherfucker who's been fighting for his creative life, it's the baby he is yeah, he's, he's really, he's like no, he put his neck you clawing for relevancy.
Speaker 3:Speaking of the kid shit, he just put his nephew with him and his nephew getting ready for school and shit in the morning. He's trying that little, that shit he did with the little. Yes, yeah, hot girl, that's all the one he was working with. The toe truck got nigga I'm talking about. He is fighting for his life.
Speaker 1:It went. It was a little. It was a little viral tiktok moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean like I say he's not, he ain't giving up. No, he's not. If it's one nigga that you gonna have to earn this kill, it's gonna be the baby. You're not gonna take that nigga out a little pump, I think he just. He just says some shit to Joe button not too recently, right.
Speaker 1:Nobody cares what low pump says to anybody, ever or what.
Speaker 3:Little pump was a error. 2016 low pump.
Speaker 1:Gucci, I don't fuck with none of you by Gucci gang.
Speaker 3:So Rich homie coin. This I got a homeboy who rich homie quang Was in 2000. I think this is probably 2013, 14, maybe 12. No, 13, 14. Rich homie quang was the staple for him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, and just, he was for a lot of guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that shit used to bump.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that rich, that rich, gang shit like them boys, they had a movement.
Speaker 3:At the time I didn't think he could fall off. When rich homie quang came out, I was. I. I was surprised he got the Roscoe Dash treatment. Yeah that's what it felt like, cuz it.
Speaker 1:Yeah cuz Roscoe Dash was hot for a while.
Speaker 3:They kick Roscoe, dash out the city. Why cuz it was on bullshit. They had to kick that nigga out the city. I remember that.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. Roscoe Dash got kicked out Atlanta.
Speaker 3:They kicked that nigga out the city then they got NBA young boy. I feel like that was, that was. That's just hate NBA. Young boy ain't fell off that much because he's still Putting our product that his fan base is rocking with yes, his, his fan base treats his music like crack. He drops it like a New crack. A new crack rock special. Then came out every time.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like he drops music all the time. Nba young boy he's. I don't think, uh, he's ever gonna consistently be mainstream. He's always gonna have his people, though.
Speaker 3:And then the top three is Lil Baby, which a lot of hateful Lil Baby, since that gun of shit that he did. Quando Rondo, of course, the King Von shit. And then Bobby Schmurder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bobby Schmurder, you got out of jail and then you just been dancing around like being weird.
Speaker 3:Well he's. He said that people have been trying to get him to do the gangsta shit again and he doesn't want to do that nigga.
Speaker 1:No, you don't have to do the gangsta shit. Get in the studio the shit that Bobby get your ass. Get your black ass in the studio, bobby, you don't have to talk about like just make dancing lit nigga music like get you. Can we be honest, can?
Speaker 3:we be honest.
Speaker 1:You and Roddy, get y'all asses in the goddamn suit, and Roddy?
Speaker 3:been in the studio. Don't put Roddy in the. Roddy makes good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Roddy been in the studio. Roddy got out and put out a first day out freestyle. He was not playing with you, niggas.
Speaker 3:Bobby does not make good music. He made a great hit. We're hot, nigger. He is like he's more if he was in an area where he could be like a flavor flay.
Speaker 1:Where he's like a hype man. What's that other song that he had? That was my shit Living life.
Speaker 3:I don't even, I can even give you.
Speaker 1:Living life was my shit, and it definitely went platinum in New York. So but rather rather rich was on your team, my biggest, really. The combination of them is really what is it so? The book, the tow, two of them need to get in the booth together.
Speaker 3:He needs something like say he needs, he needs to be a supportive role. He's not a Individual rapper, he's not a solo artist. In my opinion, I feel like he needs to bounce off of somebody else, he needs to do like how.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't like does. Yeah, I can't just give us computers and then just not anymore. Yeah, I can't, just computers. Seriously, we, we played computers in New York like it was new. For six years we played every party you would go to in New York from from like I don't even know when it came out, from like 2019 to like it was before that Computers came out, before 2019. Huh, look up when computers came out for me, please. But for like three, four years, we played that song like it was new. I think Roddy and and Roddy rich, not Roddy rebel and Bobby Schmurder or one of those like combos. That's like they, they, they. It works for me every time. I don't know if they've done anything Since he got out, but they haven't done anything as good as Living life and computers like computers was really.
Speaker 3:That's 2014.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, cuz, why not?
Speaker 3:say 2019? It's at 15. It was released.
Speaker 1:Okay, so from 2015 to like 2020, for real, like we was not that was before hot nigga, though right hot nigga was 2016,.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:I don't know which one came out first. I think they were probably in the same era.
Speaker 3:I gotta see when this came. Hot nigga had to come out in 2016, because that's when I remember Everybody throwing the hat. That was 2014, it was 14.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I had to remember like where I was undergrad.
Speaker 3:Wise yeah that was 14. That's crazy but, no, I just feel like Bobby and it's just we can wrap it up with this part. But I just feel like Bobby is he just he. He's a. He is a supportive figure and whatever artistic Endeavor, he's a supportive figure. If you try to make him that nigga, you try to get him, ask him to get on top of the desk, that just death jam again. It's gonna look nasty.
Speaker 1:So you wanna talk shit and run your mouth.
Speaker 10:You wanna see my black gas right in front your house.
Speaker 1:God damn, it's like I need it I, I need it, bobby.
Speaker 3:All right, we got to do a victory lap here. So here talk F&F we. We make a lot of predictions, we talk a lot trash, but we see the future and we called it. We did. We called it. We knew Jesu Larry's was not going to be a full-time Breakfast Club host she is unfit to be part of a nationally syndicated Radio show.
Speaker 1:You cannot just hate gay people and trans people and be syndicated.
Speaker 3:I just want to let y'all know when we have. We had a foot on our neck in December because we saw that that little video go out. But she got a Part of the Breakfast Club and that was official and we looked at each other. We were shaking on our boots. But we thought, we thought we were wrong we thought we were gonna have to get on this fucking couch and tell y'all we were wrong, but guess what they were gonna overlook her bullshit.
Speaker 1:But guess what?
Speaker 8:You were right.
Speaker 3:We were just hilarious does not look like she is going to be on the Breakfast.
Speaker 1:Club. We're not celebrating a black woman's losses, but we are celebrating us being right.
Speaker 3:We are celebrating it by proxy Shout out to the cartel I.
Speaker 1:Mean, if y'all want to sponsor. I'll do a little commercial in the beginning we got. This podcast is bought to you by Los otros. I just made that up.
Speaker 8:I think that might be the name.
Speaker 3:No, but I think it was kind of funny. Here was in the midst of her not being the third member. You know, charlemagne them say they was upset about a lot. Even Joe buddin took some shots by saying he offered her a job up at the job but, but she'd probably be more entertaining than Mel Loki.
Speaker 3:I think both of them would be good at the same time, honestly, but what happened here was what we kind of cemented that she's not coming back is that she took shots at DJ, and so she called this nigga trash.
Speaker 3:And he is. And this happened after they had a scissor conversation where they compared her to Mary J Blige and she caught him trash and it just made it really clear that whatever was going on beforehand, it may not be the same, because even if you shoot like, even if you shoot at somebody like that, when we work together it's gonna feel different when the public looks at it, because this isn't like just a New York radio show. This is a nationally syndicated radio.
Speaker 3:Yeah so you have so many people opinions that are going to be in some people's narratives that they want to see be pushed all ourselves and this just looks like it's official she's not gonna be with them. Why would you call the nigga trash publicly like that? And put his name in it.
Speaker 1:I knew that I heart or whoever it was, power 105, all those powers that be like y'all not gonna want to Put your names behind somebody who's a liability, like, just like I don't think she was gonna control her mouth enough.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you this question because you know, star, you know, do that be listening to? He threw this out there and say that Potentially she could have denied I heart, because I heart Was trying to maybe put her like in a 360 type of deal where they were gonna be collecting from her from her other, because you know this is gonna be I can see in my mind, if I'm a radio station, radio is dying. I need another way of generating income.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she does, and second and you tour.
Speaker 3:So if I'm gonna, give you a platform to be on a nationally syndicated radio. So always be able to give your tour date to the, the public listening, and you got a pack house that's. I mean she might already have, I don't. I don't know her numbers. I don't know what she could do. I can only assume if Taraji P Henson is complaining about her money in her field, it can only reflect Everywhere in the entertainment field. So if if.
Speaker 3:Taraji's not getting paid. I can't imagine that. Just hilarious is getting something that she feels she's worked. I. Can't imagine that. But I gotta say shout out to just though, cuz you found something else to talk about beside country, wayne.
Speaker 1:He said keep my name out, your mouth bitch shout out to country Wayne, like we messed mad long ago. Stop talking about me, please. You look crazy and that's wild for a man to come out and say like that's really, I would just shut up, like you would. Just, you can't even be, you can't even bark back into like I Like no, you just gotta be like ah, and then see like for you and then like you can always talk to chick crazier when you didn't give her a baby the one that you dated like, so you can always be a little extra spicy when you got 27 of them, that's not.
Speaker 3:But see, cuz my thing is this is like she's not just gonna get what's for her. You know I mean you want to get this, this other 11 that I can't get on you getting what's for them to. I'm sorry I can't. They the mother of the kids. I can't shoot at them as I want to and I can shoot at you. I didn't give you no country. Wayne shoots at everyone.
Speaker 1:The exact way he wants to shoot at them. Oh, for sure, but yeah, I feel what you saying, but I can just understand as a man.
Speaker 3:Where it's like yeah, I can't really talk trash to these other women because we got kids together, but we'd be you, me, you, we don't. I can keep this straight at you Get some more material bitch.
Speaker 3:Stop talking about me every interview especially when it's like like that she too, when it's like professional and like I'm out here getting to it, like on some real shit, and you not we in the same feel like that's the best feeling when you can really kick her back in and it's like right after she done, lost the, it's tangible. I mean it was in question when he said that but no, I got, I got a fuck with country.
Speaker 3:Wayne, a real nigga man. I fuck with niggas like that who just keep, keep everything, everything, but it's still Able to talk. They shit when needed. They not just gonna let you walk all over them, they not. That's like Gilbert arenas. Gilbert arenas man. He paid his child support and everything, but he was not letting Shorty walk all over him. She had to earn that win every time, every time. But I'm tired.
Speaker 3:These niggas need to know, man, I'm not, I'm about to really express them shit to these niggas, cuz y'all out here letting either think they are here moving. You tell me.
Speaker 10:I ask him again they took no money, man. They just paid me to stop fucking with them. Stop getting on these little ass niggas. When you talking about nigga, I'm talking about kids niggas. They just paid us to get off their ass. I was dead.
Speaker 8:I was dead. So, 4-2-dub.
Speaker 3:Are you familiar with 4-2-dub? Yeah, I know who that is.
Speaker 3:He was in On Alive with some group of people and they were discussing a conflict between him and Offset. So there was been some discussion that said that Offset basically took some money from him and, you know, intimidated 4-2-dub and was able to get some money off of him for that. I want y'all to know something. Okay, we here in Atlanta, we here at things, we know what 4-2-dub did to Offset. Okay, when they was gambling for that money in the studio and Offset was trying to ask for his money back, we know what happened, do we? Oh yeah, it was on video. You see them boys arguing in the parking lot. You see Offset walking away. It was no problem. This happened with 4-2.
Speaker 1:This was before 4-2-dub, so wait, he was asking for his money back and Offset was just like no and left.
Speaker 3:No, this is the other way around. Baby girl 4-2-dub was gambling with Offset and like with little it was all you know, because he was a little baby artist so they was all gambling. He was taking Offset money. Offset asked for some of his money back because in gambling that's something that will do. It's like hey, bro, you know you kick my ass, but can I get something to take home with me? You know I had 10 racks and I get, you know, four of them back. You took 10. And usually, well, amongst men who respect each other, that's not, that's a normal practice. You would then get that man just a safe face, because at the end of the day, if I didn't took 10 racks off you, you're going to want to fight for that 10 racks back at the end of the day. We're going to fight that, as you see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm not you don't understand that, because that could end in your life for 10 racks.
Speaker 1:Because why would you gamble your money if you're not ready to lose it? That's why I think gambling is stupid.
Speaker 3:But you can say all of that, but you got to actually kind of understand the culture, you're right. It is yours. And that's what's going to happen. Take it.
Speaker 3:So then they're, going to have you on the news, then they're going to have you on the news, because I'm not trying to talk down on anything, but there was a amigo who was in a similar situation where conflicts because of gambling started and it did not end promising. So like that's a real thing, it is yeah. So like you, you, he didn't give him the money back. Offset started a little conflict with them and it was reported you know from the rumor mill that four or two of his team got the best of the offset team. So this has been a conflict. For a minute. I see where four or two is coming from, where it's like bro, we didn't already had our win with y'all? Why y'all still trying to do this, but offset trying to do what he trying, offset trying to revamp his image too. You got to clean up some shit.
Speaker 1:Y'all try you do Because Cardi out here dropping snippets in New York gloves and it sound like heat and she looking good and she said she said you out here flopping and you sad and your last project was garbage and it's not looking good for you. That's what happens, man, like when you're still want her to get back together with you to cheat on you with Quavo.
Speaker 3:That's what happens, though you try to try to try to save face and then you got to start acting tough so you can earn your stripes back. But we'll get into more in that later. We'll see how that turns into, but we got to talk about this proposal.
Speaker 1:Yes, you want me to introduce. I mean, it's not really much to introduce it's just a story that you know.
Speaker 1:So there's this little, this little story that's been going viral on TikTok and Twitter lately. This guy told his, his girlfriend, to wear a cute flowy dress for their special day that they were about to have. And then she was like don't tell me what's a wear, motherfucker Disgusting. And she wore cargo pants and a button down. And then the video of he ends up proposing to her and then the pictures of her being proposed to she is going to always look like a lesbian lumberjack.
Speaker 3:Or she's going to look like she out here doing architect.
Speaker 1:She looks like an art student, which is not terrible, but like all of all of social media, is like you, dumb bitch, look at how you look like.
Speaker 3:Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1:You bitches don't listen. You never want to listen. That's. That's basically everyone's Everyone's thing about it. They're like, oh, she's going to be so embarrassed she's going to look at these and she's going to cringe that she didn't listen to her man. And that's generally been everyone's take on it.
Speaker 3:I have a different take on it. I just to me, like I was thinking about this when I saw this and it made me realize something about myself, like before you and I got together, where I would really have like something in my head that would once a once an action would be done, I would understand it. Okay, this isn't going past, where is that now? And it was something that I unconsciously Would reveal, my reveal itself to me, when I wouldn't even express it cuz it'd be like if this happened to me, and I was like, hey, I want you to wear this. And you said, no, I Would understand to myself I wouldn't. You're never going to be my person. I might continue to sleep with you in whatever this relationship is, but you're never going to be the person that I would continue Like for real. It just wouldn't be like, that would just. And I realized that that was like I'm like man, why did?
Speaker 3:I why did I always feel so easily for me to just jump from one girl to another girl? What was? Because, like once she did that, it was just out of my head was like, oh, you're not, you're not, you're not gonna be her. So what is it? You fall. You fell into a lot of, you know, aesthetic things that I like, a lot of things regarding just your family life that I liked, and personally.
Speaker 3:And you and there were certain things that, even if you didn't necessarily have that, you weren't gonna act like that was something that you wanted to present as who you were. You know that's a lot of women, don't? They don't do that. They'll present that as who they are and become be combative at all times when it's like there's no reason for you to be combative. So I mean, I just feel bad for it, bro, because he, he obviously likes to just be talked down to.
Speaker 1:It's all at yeah, you know, I feel like everyone's been Having such a like negative outlook on this whole little thing, but maybe, like this couple, might just think this is a cute little story to tell. You know, like no, they might not even have taken it that serious, like he might not have cared that much.
Speaker 3:But what she wore, but for him to not care that is speaks on the type of individual he is.
Speaker 1:Maybe he like this is all like speculation, but maybe he asked her to wear it because he thought that she might want that. He's like I don't give a fuck what you're wearing, I love you and I'm gonna propose to you anyways, but you might want to have a nice flowy dress on and you have no idea this is happening. So let me just mention it real quick. And then she was like he was like you know, I'm still. I still love you and I'm still gonna put this ring on your finger, stubborn bitch things that Aren't all the way with him, like there's no, I don't think it's that it is man I don't think I feel like there might have been a.
Speaker 1:You don't think there was any situation when he didn't give a fuck at all about what she wore because he wouldn't brought it up. May this would. I think it was maybe for her.
Speaker 3:If it wouldn't have been brought up, because then I went to say the flow just said wear something nice. Where's something you like I would have put it in your ballpark. But clearly he had a request I want you to wear something for me because I think you're gonna look nice and I'm going to do something for you. Like there was a plan behind it. It's just somebody like that Y'all are gonna. There's gonna be a point where Y'all beat me heads and it's like an inevitable thing, because at some point it sounds nasty when people hear it. But at some point one person has to step back and say this is just what we're riding with, because if we have to battle with everything, it's little stuff like that you don't have to, you don't have to battle with.
Speaker 1:like my husband likes me looking like an old Hollywood black actress, like he loves when I wear white, I try to wear like Flowy white things and like have my hair like he likes it, and stuff like that all the time. But why I don't know why you wouldn't also that's another thing why wouldn't you just want to Look nice for your man? Why do you want to be combative when it comes to that?
Speaker 3:It's cuz what I've said before a lot of people that's what they're Condition to think, like you. We've had even conversation with us when it's like I may say something and you probably agree after you thought about it. But because it's the what I'm asking you and what you've seen other people Say about that it makes you feel some type of way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah it's just like I don't like how that sounded coming out of your man mouth.
Speaker 3:All right, we won't get into 21, but I gotta. I gotta take a shot at mace real quick. Man, mace has been being real disrespectful to an NBA legend, wade. He made some comments about you know fingernail paint, comments about why are you looking?
Speaker 1:at another man fingers, unless you want them in your boot hole.
Speaker 3:No, he's made a lot of comments about that. He's that's all I want to know alluded to some things about the way his lifestyle and you know, you know people have had criticisms about His parenting and whatnot. But, mace, sir, you cannot talk and to you explain who that man was in the car in Atlanta, pimp, see, told us the random man in Atlanta.
Speaker 3:They told us. We need to know, we need, we need, we need you to do, we need you to verify. We know you were a pastor, but we know Atlanta pastors Can be a little weird. They can do with. Did you ever get swallowed up? Have you ever been?
Speaker 8:swallowed. Talk about it so wallow.
Speaker 3:You can't talk about any man's sexuality until you explain who that man was in the car.
Speaker 1:We need to make our own soundboard and swallow needs to be one of the sounds.
Speaker 3:I was also like a Dame-dash thing that he said about fat Joe that I want to put on the board where he was like that's just not how I do business, but I let's get into this 21 Savage Club Shay Shay interview. So Shout out to club Shay Shay.
Speaker 1:You've been knocking it out the park club Shay Shay has been putting out some good stuff. I watched ever since you got the fireplace.
Speaker 3:His shit been went up.
Speaker 1:Okay. So listen, I don't want you out of think that we try to fuck Copy club Shay Shay, because we are eventually, in the next couple weeks, going to revamp our set. We're gonna have a couple different sets. One of the sets, two of the sets, actually are going to include fireplaces. That's just us. That's not us trying to bite, trying to jack it.
Speaker 3:But no, it it's, it's since. It's since that's happened, that's because that's when Steve Harvey came, when he got the fireplace. I was doing my little due diligence through his, his little track record that first started with him brown couches yeah it first started with him.
Speaker 1:It looks like a bourbon room. It looks very like man man cave.
Speaker 3:It started out with him doing video chats because it happened during the pandemic, and then he started doing it in person and then this is when the set happened.
Speaker 1:So those video chats that I saw with him and it's a lot different- oh no, that's his new show. Okay, they're funny together. Yeah, that's why I said, I was like cognac.
Speaker 3:I asked why I had to give a shout out to to shannon. I seen a lot of people hating on you, shannon. Because you, because you are doing a partnership with the volume. And that's another white man calling, calling, calling, cowherds Show and shout out to him because he is the black man's Kelsey grammar. He is. He knows black man. If you look at his, he got a whole bunch of black people on his network and they are doing good content.
Speaker 3:Okay but I see a lot of people hating on shannon. But shannon, I know I called you a check nigga before. I don't believe you are anymore. I hope not hope you are a nigga working in big business, but shout out to you what you're doing. But this 21 Savage interview was pretty interesting. I learned a lot about him. He did talk about some things that he had talked about before, like in his breakfast club interview, mm-hmm. So the big takeaway was he said he felt like broke parents were better than rich parents and Just came down to time. Okay.
Speaker 1:And I. It depends on how broke, though no.
Speaker 3:I hate when people say that because broke people don't be having time either.
Speaker 1:I had broke immigrant parents and they had nothing. All of their time had to Be spent making money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, that's what I was, that's what I wanted to lead to was like I didn't. I don't like that point that he was saying, because it really Misconstrues what's important, and what's important is yes, you do need finances, but you need to have enough resources while also being able to have time to be with your kids.
Speaker 3:Yeah like we were talking about this in our group chat, kind of trying to explain to the guys in the group chat I don't have kids what's going on, and they'll say they were saying like these different little comebacks and I had to stop them and say, bro, you're thinking about this entirely to Business related. You're trying to think of it like a CEO and I'm telling you you got to think about this like what's better for your worker and humanity and what's better for your working humanity is that my, my homeboy that was talking about it gets paid the same amount he's getting paid by work and still work less so that he can be around his kids and be around his family. Like that's what's important. That's the thing I was talking about. Prior was like we aren't conducive to parenting, like it shouldn't be a reason why someone is a parent and still have to work 40 hours a week.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, like that was those two things like my worst nightmare.
Speaker 3:You're doing a disenfranchise, your disenfranchising of people when you do that, like you're doing people a disservice when you do that, because now they can't focus on being a kid, being with the kid, and now they have to take certain setbacks to. Either are we gonna provide or or am I going to be a ever-present force. And it kind of even comes into coming a criticism with his kid, with his father, excuse me, which was kind of tough for me. He was saying like his dad was in the UK and he didn't really see him much Growing up because of you know just the, the difference, the whole being all the way across the ocean. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3:I couldn't. I can only imagine Trying to parent across a whole Atlantic Ocean. That's tough.
Speaker 1:You can't. I mean a different country you can't parent. There's only so much you can like. You can try to do a couple calls, give them a couple lessons, but like I'm not about to listen to you live across the ocean, like I felt, like it was so weird because he just he didn't have a lot of grace for him.
Speaker 3:He even talked about some of the shortcomings in him his father in His father hood, because of his business and his what he's doing. So like I just didn't really get it and I end up watching an interview with RMT.
Speaker 3:So it's like a UK podcast that his dad did an interview with. He kind of talked about what was going on between and like he was really crazy, he said he met 21's mom right when they was in UK at a party and Apparently she's Muslim. But like she's not like the run of the mill Muslim, she's like a black supremacist Muslim. Okay, so she's like one of ones that like think like that the white people were built, were made in tubes and all that stuff, like as a Biproduct of black science, like that kind. Oh wow, people the devil kind of shit. Oh okay, that's what he said.
Speaker 3:This is what he said, I don't know, she felt like that moving forward. That's what he said and and why they were dating. She was discussing moving to America and then she got pregnant and she still wanted to go to America and she wanted him to abandon his family. He wasn't with that. So that's what kind of broke them up, even though she was pregnant. So when he's like five or six, that's when they moved to America and he basically says that just put a complete strain on a relationship Because they didn't have a clear communication, they had issues going on because of her moving and stuff like that, and so a lot of the problems that probably stem from him and the mom Affected him in 21s relationship because she told him that this is what he said. Of course, he said that every six months he was supposed to come back To America, I mean to the UK, and that didn't happen, like after he turned like seven or something.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm and there was just a lot of different conflicts and I understand what a lot of people saying was like bro, why didn't you Make an initiative? But it's like if you're all way across the world and you and me aren't having clear parts of having clear communication from a long period of time, I'm. It's like the I'm going in blonde. Regardless if you just was the float, fly to Atlanta and try to find him at any point. Like he's going in blonde. He doesn't really know she get at that particular time again.
Speaker 3:That's somebody who experienced different things like this. Like you can literally go up, call the person, say, hey, I'm on my way up there, can we coordinate something? And then know it doesn't happen. So you've spent 12 hours in a car to not see anybody. Like I've known that that. So I can only imagine if I have to travel seven hours on a plane and you expect and I don't have nothing clear, we don't, we it's. I can imagine just just different conversations. Like not being. We could be talking for two or three months and then something happens and now we don't talk for six weeks and then we talk again for two more weeks and then, like it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 3:He said hey, I tried my end, I had money to try to get him to travel and things that nature, but me and his mom could never get on the same page with things and I just I don't know, I just feel like dads in that in that instance they get such a hard rap, like when, when you don't appease to the mom, especially early on, you just get shitted on For anything like, unless you was like super Superman, you just get shitted on everything. Did you have anything that you wanted to add about 21 Savage In that manner? I mean, you've experienced that before having a distance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't really put it against my, my father, having that distance, though, because, first of all, I was only seven when we reunited, so I most of my childhood, I didn't even remember him being gone. It wasn't until like Years and years into the future when my mom gave me different information that I was like, but, like in the in the moment, I didn't resent him in any way, shape or form. Um be being that he Experiences for way longer than I experienced this. I don't know how I would have felt, because you do eventually start to resent your parents, regardless of like the situation it's like, but this happened to me still, but this is still the bed that I had to lay in, regardless of whoever made the bed. I didn't make the bed. I was a child. I didn't ask for this bed. So this is the bed that I was laying in, and it's they fucking it was it sucked? So he gets to complain about it, and then I do think he should give his father grace immigration, things of that nature.
Speaker 1:No but like Going back and forth and that's that's complicated. It's financially straining when, when you don't have a good relationship with the the other parent, it's even mugger. So I didn't watch the interview. But if he didn't give his father any grace at all, I feel like that's. That's not great.
Speaker 3:He to me. He gave him what I feel like he thought was enough grace, because he was saying he didn't want to be disrespect. He did mention that, like he didn't want to be disrespectful, he want to talk out of turn.
Speaker 1:It's just, I guess, in my mind but he's, yeah, I feel like, if that's the case, he's still experienced that. So that's still that. Spoke to that. Yeah, that, regardless of the why Wasn't there?
Speaker 3:my things like this, like so I think about it, how with me? So I grew up my pops right, but Most of our time was only really spent in the morning because he worked pretty much afternoon to the night. So I Was kind of like how, 21st day, 21st I used to see his dad on a week, every other weekend and we spent time with him and he would be with that family. And then when I got older and I moved to Georgia, I didn't get to see my pops as much because he still had to finish his work requirement so that he could max out his retirement with his company. So for it was like four years that I wasn't with my pops and all that.
Speaker 3:But I sit back and I think about, yeah, at that time Did I feel certain things because I wanted my pops at my, at my basketball games, I wanted my dad To be somewhere, I would see him on a daily. But when I go back and think of it as a, as a grown man, and look at the things that he did in In those four years that benefited me in the long run, my mind, my mind frame, changes to that criticism. Because I remember literally telling my pops like oh man, I was upset that you wasn't there around for for high school like that.
Speaker 3:And then I had to come back and tell him like I'm sorry that I said that, because that's not true, because I would. I'm gonna be honest, the things that my dad provided for me material wise and also just like Life wise was way more valuable than him just being there.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. You just said that the material things your father provided for you was more valuable than him being around you, like that could be. That could be taken as fucking crazy Because you had nice sneakers and stuff. Like you would prefer that over like your dad at your games. I would prefer, I would if you had the choice, I would.
Speaker 3:The thing is, the games wouldn't have been able to happen if my dad and parents didn't have money, because you had to pay to play sports. I need to be shoes, you need all this other stuff. I had to be, I had to work. I wasn't the most athletic kid, so I had to have trainers and work out or something that it wasn't you're.
Speaker 1:I think you're thinking about it from from your Specifically that's what that's what that's.
Speaker 3:Why was my opinion on what was talking about my things? I understand. When I sit back and look at things as a grown man now I can change my perspective on what I thought, because as a kid, yeah, I thought opposite for me. I mean, as a kid I thought, yeah, it would be cool to have my dad be there, because I was looking at above the rim, and Above the rim he's working out with his son every day he's. But you know I forgot that he was poor as fuck. That nigga above the rim lives in an apartment with his family. You know what? I lived in a five bedroom house every time I had a home. So I'm not gonna sit here and tell my dad the time that you spent away from me was not worth it when you gave me an Amazing production for that.
Speaker 1:It's completely opposite for me. When I look back and I look at everything on my when I am in my adulthood, I'm like, like it's, it's I. I Didn't resent him in the moment. And then when I got more information, I've gone past it. Now I don't resent him anymore, but like when I got more information in my early adulthood Like I I did and then at the same time now looking back on it, like my parents weren't well to do or anything like that. We weren't super rich, but my dad, I was with him all the time, like I was glued to my dad's hip. He would take me everywhere with him. We lived in a basement we never had like I. There was I I always wanted for things.
Speaker 1:So that's all now looking back on it like, no, I I don't. I Wouldn't have preferred wanting those things. The the time that I spent with my father Made me who I am today. Like formed my interests, formed my opinions, formed the way I articulate myself. Well then I was, and that that time was Like. I wouldn't have traded it for like. But then I wouldn't say that you're like baby fat jackets.
Speaker 3:I'm saying, but you know when I?
Speaker 1:I said when I look back on it now, no, so that that part of it, well, the part about my dad not being in Haiti with me when I was growing up, like I didn't, I didn't resent that when I was growing up, when I learned more details about everything later I did. I don't. Now there was a middle, a little middle resentment sliver.
Speaker 3:So I guess what you're saying is kind of like what I'm saying, like as you got older, when you looked at everything in its full perspective.
Speaker 1:I said I'm saying it's the opposite for me, because my dad was always there and we didn't have money. Yeah, yeah, okay. So I wasn't saying what you were saying. I was saying the complete opposite, because I yeah.
Speaker 3:I was in him right.
Speaker 1:I was saying that my I, I would have, I Don't prefer, I would not have preferred if my father was there less and we had more money and he was providing more money for us with and had less time for me. I wouldn't have preferred that. It's the time that I spent with him was so formative for me that I wouldn't like. The stuff that I got, wouldn't like, would not have been more valuable than the time that I spent with him.
Speaker 3:No, and again with me, with me and my pops. Most of that happened Later on, later on, like again for the four years I was in high school. But to me I understand the valuable nature of it because again it was just be a lot of things that wouldn't be accessible and and unfortunately, sacrifice is a part of the process like you're not, you're not gonna be able to Do, do and and have it the way that you want.
Speaker 3:If you have the time for the kid, most likely you're not gonna have the money For the things that they need. It's just a given tape.
Speaker 3:Yeah so I again, I would, I would rather Just again the life that I experienced. I Can only tell, I can tell just by the people that I know, the people that I spoke with, that they've never had anything similar to it, that it's, it's, it's, it's a fortunate thing and like I'm not gonna speak Against it when I know what it takes like to get to that. So I'm, that's the only thing about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Cuz.
Speaker 3:I mean, I was gonna ask you like, if the outcome was different, would you? Would you have a different feeling? But you say there isn't any resentment anymore.
Speaker 1:No, because both of my parents are amazing people who worked their hardest and cared for me as much as they could to get me in the best Position as they could. They made a couple slip-ups along the way, because they're human. The Slip-ups I held on to for a little bit and then I grew up and then I realized they were human. Then I let them go.
Speaker 3:I mean, I can.
Speaker 1:I think that's where I think we kind of come into the same understanding where it's like this was for the what you, the best you could do, the best you could do, and You're trying your hardest the entire time, whole time, and that's, that's what matters in the end, at the end of the day yeah, so I didn't feel, I feel, I hope that him in 21, if they they haven't, you know, You're right so.
Speaker 3:I hope they can. They can definitely do that because it's tough man Like especially niggas in the post office. Yo, like that's it. That's not big money. We're especially in the UK. They didn't have much land. They want to land a post. You know I mean mailboxes in the UK.
Speaker 1:I don't know crazy, that's a random ass question.
Speaker 3:All right, let's uh, let's wrap. It is anything else we wanted to end before we let this go narrow. All right, I want to let y'all know life is a labor of love. Let's keep building these moments together. Remember, your job is not your family. You know. Anything you should be exploiting is these corporations. Talk FNF TV Whoo, we hear. We ought to hear like follow, subscribe. We'll be back next week. Bye. I made it.