Talk FNF
You’re new home Pop culture, current events and new commentary. Real people expressing real opinions.
Talk FNF
Jess Hilarious Joins THE BREAKFAST CLUB, Nicki Minaj vs Megan thee Stallion and Book of Clarence Review - Talk FNF TV
Strap in for a rollercoaster of emotions and revelations as we navigate the tumultuous waters of celebrity clashes and music industry antics. We're peeling back the curtain to reveal the sobering reality behind Nicki vs Meg and the unyielding scrutiny it casts on the music industry. Our discussion doesn't just skim the surface; we're plunging headfirst into the dark arts of doxxing that's plaguing hip-hop communities and the raw nerve of gender dynamics, with none other than Shaquille O'Neal weighing in on the conversation.
Today's episode is anything but ordinary. We've got the scoop on the scorching feud between Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion, dissecting lyrical jabs and the heavyweight drama that's much more than just a series of tweets. From the Breakfast Club's latest addition, Jess Hilarious, to the unexpected turns in the Nicki-Megan saga, we're breaking down every angle. And while the glitz of celebrity rivalries dazzles, we're also casting a spotlight on the unsettling case of a journalist under fire for her reporting and the shocking backyard discovery that has us on edge.
We wrap things up with power-packed performances and thought-provoking film narratives that challenge the very fabric of black representation in literature and Hollywood. This isn't just about what's seen on the silver screen; it's a deep dive into the stories we tell and the voices we amplify. It's a reflection of the times – an episode packed with the good, the gritty, and the gravely serious. Don't miss a beat of this heart-pounding conversation that's as enlightening as it is electric.
What the hell happened, right? So apparently Nicky and Meg did a live together, and then Nicky said this is what she said she said that she was pregnant during that live and that Meg knew that she was pregnant and Meg was encouraging her to drink while or she was pregnant, either pregnant or trying to get pregnant and Meg was encouraging her to drink and then said that she should die following.
Speaker 2:Well no, you came from hey. You said she was unfit for syndicated radio.
Speaker 1:Because of the transphobic comments. Me and my friends didn't like somebody that got shot Like glass fragment. Foot, ass, bitch is something that we would definitely call her.
Speaker 2:Joe Budden is doing a Spaces on Twitter and I couldn't get in through my main page because apparently the girl that's hoped was on the co-host has blocked me. Can't say that he would cheat. I can say that if he felt more comfortable.
Speaker 3:You can't say that he would cheat?
Speaker 2:No, because, if he because see, this is what you, I did, your idea of cheating him, just sleeping with other women, my idea is he's saying. My idea is he's saying I'm going to sleep with other women, but I'm going to do it with you, knowing that it's happening and you're going to understand what's going on.
Speaker 1:This podcast is sponsored by Graffiti Tax Services. For all your tax preparation needs, you can go to graffititaxcom. We're going to put the link right here. It should be somewhere. And yeah, you can head to them for during tax season and if you have any financial or tax preparation questions, head to Graffiti Tax Services. They're our new sponsor. Thank you to Graffiti Tax Preparation Services. That's it.
Speaker 2:Miss reality, miss reality, miss reality. Hi, it's been a lot going on now since our last encounter here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we had to like muster up topics for the last last episode. It was kind of a slow news week, but this week it was plentiful. The universe gave us so many topics.
Speaker 2:So I think I'm going to get the people prepared. What a little music here, I think. I think it's going to explain a lot what we're going to talk about today, so let's get into it.
Speaker 5:Sorry for me, friend, I would think that you off this live and we go. Anyway, we go get into some time. Ok, you have to do it, you have to do it. So anyway, but I really, really appreciate you and even though we've been joking a lot, I want to tell you that it means a lot to me. All the nice and all the sweet things that you've ever said, like it means the world to me. We love you, I love you back.
Speaker 3:I can't if the beat. I feel like McRae carry Got these niggas so obsessed. My pussy, so famous, might get managed by Chris Jeninix. He can't move on, can't let it go. He hook, knows full of that teen and snob. And since niggas need making help to make money, bitch, come beat my hoes. All you bitches is we're going to buy. How can shit for a norekofine you? How can never be just my bitch that we can't stand Making all Kelly go viral.
Speaker 3:Hey, I'm sexy as fuck and I'm freaky. Get whoever I want any meaning. Why the fuck would I stay with a nigga that's weak and she's in the know how to please me Bodies on bodies on bodies on bodies. So he's fucking naked. And now he the topic. These niggas thinking they lower the value. I'll just free promo, I'm turning the profit. Hey, big nigga, be kissing the teller. Say he'll play up here in his feelings, bet I won't give up the pussy again. Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. These hoes don't be mad at Megan. These hoes mad at Megan's law. I don't believe the problem is, but I can't see y'all on me story. Bitch, you, a pussy. Never feel a checkmate Every chance you get. Bitch y'all weak ass want to dress me Bitch. That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 5:Yeah, y'all just up my high. When I walked into Megan the stylist's room today. She was like a foot taller than me and I was really in there feeling like a kind of girl.
Speaker 3:I said, whoa, my girl really is a little doll. And I was like, oh my god, but when she? Put her heels on, though she's standing.
Speaker 5:Even when I put my heels on Miss Sing, is you know like today she's standing?
Speaker 3:She's standing Fuckin' mother when she die. How you gonna get a girl who can't cry Chai ma Bigfoot. But you feel a small fry.
Speaker 5:Stand in that bubble when you're live and y'all this lil' Beggin' Hall talking about Megan's law For a free beat. You can hit Megan Raw. If you a ghost by the party, then Megan's your shot down. But I still ain't let Megan fall. She's like 6'5. I call her Bigfoot. The bitch fell off. I said get up when you're good for it.
Speaker 3:She ain't top that blue bee Trying to steal a source.
Speaker 5:I said you in there by my cookbook, but really I'm a sweaty pipe P-R-T-T-Y but I'm P-E-T-T-Y. Why did you lie about your lipo? Fuckin' your best friend man. It's crazy, you the type though you was lying to the queen and you were lying to the king. Yeah, that 30-year-old T so stale. Kylie kicked you out and made you stumble to the car VAR. I need a good alcohol VAR. Well, man, wait, that was the VAR. Like a bodybuilder, I keep raising the VAR. Fuckin' get shot with no SCAR, damn. I'm just gonna pick a toxic. Somebody adopted Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Shitting in dark light chocolate. I'm bugging you to be an ass bitch quench. Oh no, you're not, we got you on the ground, Bitch.
Speaker 6:I home-playing Joss up. She musta, thought she could catch up. I got my foot on the next. I can't let up. She hold on the floor to her get up. She my son, but I ain't her man me Bitch can't stand me. Eat through my panties Hard like life. No, Annie, I'm losing my tan. I lose anything before my man. I'm a pretty bitch. I don't like fighting On the beat. I'm going super sad. I said mirror, mirror, who the varus? Leave a bum nigga looking embarrassed. Find a hundred fifty. I'm some Paris that shit craved, like them niggas in Paris. Pick you to shit, bitch you not even the fuck. I be going hard. I'm breaking their hearts like Bitches. Be quick, but I'm quicker. I'm a real ass bitch to the song.
Speaker 3:I'm a real ass bitch to the song. Mean dollar convoz on zones. Get wet. I don't got to use lube, we're friendly. I bitch on room Popped out with a brand new dude. Popped out with a brand new team. Walk this no good on team.
Speaker 7:Walk the young bitch on, turn, Got on T-Hain, she burn Host. How cool, what verse. They don't never want to talk about a verse. Stop worrying about the shit they take. Could the same hoes see me as slurped? I'm a South Side Beast to the grave. I'm a South Side Beast to the hearse. How bout the G-Way? How bout the verse M-Sop Brand deals, M-Sop merch Got a beast driveway looking like hearse? I don't know how to seem, but I'm heard. I been trying to get my little quick start. Now you trying to ring me like chert. I'm a real ass bitch, can't fall. I don't need to do my own damn lunch. I don't need play like that Kind of one hand. Who the head of business, Poonani, and they saying that I rap my ass off. Love, forgive me, I'm giving them hell Huh.
Speaker 3:I'm back outside, you huh, nigga, you made me mad, you huh nigga didn't make me mad again.
Speaker 2:Okay, you Period I think that was a good way to start. You know, you slick a South Side chick.
Speaker 1:What does that even mean?
Speaker 2:So she's from about South Side of Georgia. So you know, technically you slick a South Side chick from New York, sir. I'm just saying like. I mean, I don't make the rules.
Speaker 1:I don't make the rules. I don't make the rules. I'm from New York. I'm just telling you how long I live here.
Speaker 2:You slick, you slick a South Side so shout out to Lotto.
Speaker 1:I do, I will eventually reside on the South Side of Georgia Again.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get into this. It's a lot of stuff we got to get into, man. We first got to start off. This is talk FNF TV.
Speaker 5:What's up, guys?
Speaker 2:I'm your host rhetoric. I'm with my lovely and amazing and wonderful co-host, miss Reality.
Speaker 1:Hello Spear fingers.
Speaker 2:All right, man, we got a first start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember bringing on.
Speaker 2:Good, I thought you was about to. I thought I was going to call you a thorn. You know, call the medics.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2:All right. So we got our first start somewhere, man. We took a victory lap a little too early last week, mm-hmm, you know it wasn't our finest hour. Nope, we had a clip set up, we was ready to go, and then we got played. Man, I must be honest, they got us, they got us.
Speaker 3:We got got.
Speaker 2:We can only be ashamed of ourselves. So just let y'all know Just hilarious is now a regular official full time co-host of the Breakfast Club Shout out.
Speaker 2:Shout out to you, just hilarious Shout out to you, man. I want you to know if you did see that everybody saw that episode. You know we had our theories and thoughts of. You know what was going to go down. I want to assure everyone that it was only Miss Reality who was hating. You know what I'm saying? I actually believe that just layers was the one and only person who they actually could get in there. Wow, I thought the only reason they weren't going to put her in there was because of the slander she said about the trans women. That's what I thought also.
Speaker 2:Obviously, we are living in times where that's no longer, that's no longer required.
Speaker 1:You can be transphobic and syndicated, apparently.
Speaker 2:Because I was watching this yesterday it was Kenyan Martin. The other day, Chelsea. Yeah.
Speaker 9:Yeah, faggadass Chants, that was. That was y'all long Faggadass Chants. Okay, I'm just having this. Al Vincent.
Speaker 1:I inversion man to man, to man to man. Definitely I learned. I learned hijack.
Speaker 2:Man to man. This came from Georgia. People like Mill Qu Table, man to number one.
Speaker 1:Yep, man to man.
Speaker 2:Come from Georgia, just like man, would you say. Man would you say man, Move over the约, dude you better, not even that whole being politically correct and all that jazz that might be out of the door.
Speaker 1:This is what we get for betting against the black women and celebrating her elves.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a lot. It's Trump. We got a whole bunch of things that's going on. That's making this whole environment a whole different thing. Like, maybe Jess was doing the right thing. She took the side. That's gonna promote what she doing and we just maybe stuck in the 2010s with our criticisms.
Speaker 1:I feel like us assuming that she wouldn't be on radio because she's transphobic is not us being stuck in the 2010s. It's us being a little too Overly critical 24.
Speaker 2:Little overly critical.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I think we gotta give a shout to the breakfast cause they did do a great. I mean, I wouldn't say great, but they did do a really good job of. They started off with the staged interview with Charlemagne saying you know, I don't know what's going on. Afterwards they had them complaining on air for multiple days and then the icing on the cake was just calling them trash. That threw everybody off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why we thought we were like okay, this is.
Speaker 1:This was a wrap.
Speaker 2:And I just feel bad because for weeks I wanted to bring up the topic and I had kept forgetting to bring it up and put it on a docket. It was the universe and it was just telling us like no, you don't need to talk about this, you don't need to do a victory lap because you're going to be wrong. And we should have seen that the tea leaves were there. Why would she be shitting on?
Speaker 1:And it was me. It's my fault.
Speaker 2:Well, no, you was. You came from hey.
Speaker 1:You said she was unfit for syndicated radio Because of the transphobic comments Yo you was.
Speaker 2:If everybody was hitting down on a black woman, it was you.
Speaker 1:I don't agree with your point of view.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm being gas lit and let us stray no you went on, you went at her, you, for some reason you got some type of animosity to jettel air. Y'all going to need to piece that up because I don't have, I don't know why. I'm just saying it's some animosity there.
Speaker 1:It was uncalled for, but I really love her content so much until she said that I just wanted her to stop saying dumb shit.
Speaker 2:No, I feel you.
Speaker 1:Other than that, I think she's hilarious, I think she was the perfect fit.
Speaker 2:honestly, though, I feel like there wasn't out of everybody they brought in of the recurrent guest, like the girl from TMZ, I wasn't a fan of her. She didn't really stand out and I think what really sold me was the sexy red interview. So I mean shout out to you again yeah, she got her viral moment with that. This is our attraction. We were wrong. We'll take our L.
Speaker 1:Retracted. That's what journalists do, but we didn't really journalize for real. We was just talking shit. We was just doing commentary, yeah we was just talking shit.
Speaker 2:But I do want to say in there if y'all didn't see the rollout that they had in regards to the little sizzle for everything, had my boy, danny from the stop, in the sizzle reel. Also had the boys from Home Room, aj, on the sizzle reel. So shout out to those creators. You know they listening. That's a big thing right there, even though they were trying to use it for hate. But in a real way it's big Y'all love because it's showing y'all y'all relevant.
Speaker 1:You know what? I'm saying yeah, so that's good for y'all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for real. So let's get into the topic at hand, man.
Speaker 1:The meat and potatoes.
Speaker 2:Megan and Nikki.
Speaker 1:It's a mess.
Speaker 2:I want to be honest with you. We had had a conversation pre-production and I was going to try to come in here and defend Nicki Minaj. I was going to be on Nicki's side. You know, it's a lot of stuff that I felt like I could probably defend. And then this afternoon, man, she just made this thing impossible to defend.
Speaker 2:So Joe Button is doing a spaces on Twitter and I couldn't get in through my main page because apparently the girl that's hoped was on the co-host has blocked me because I have picked sides with the stop, so I'm no longer allowed to be on spaces where she's a host at, so I had to get around. I had to use some other pages to get around so I was able to listen to it, but I did miss Nicki. But of course everybody screenshots the internet.
Speaker 1:Of course. What was Nicki in there?
Speaker 2:saying she was going off for like 45 minutes. No, lie About bad. About everything she tried to turn it into. Like this is bigger than Meg. This is me against the industry. I'm about to play it for y'all. This is wild behavior. I know Joe was sitting there like. This is not what I was trying to do right now.
Speaker 5:So if you get shot in one and then you get shot in two, now that leaves zero.
Speaker 4:So how you talking to that? How you talking to that?
Speaker 5:If you got do you know what have you ever been shot?
Speaker 1:I need to get out.
Speaker 5:Have you? I've never been shot. I've never been shot.
Speaker 2:That's a good girl right here.
Speaker 5:That's a block. I know people that have been shot. I know people that shoot. Ok, now let me tell you what the fuck don't have.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you what the fuck don't have in two days after a bitch get shot in two hoofs.
Speaker 2:Two hoofs.
Speaker 5:Talking on socials. First of all, emotionally, even emotionally, you just got shot, Girl, no. But however, the point is, you know what really grinded my fucking gears, guys? What grinded my gears was when doodoo on the beats Up, they, them I've never met in my life, right. Never.
Speaker 5:God on Twitter, started bragging about him not clearing a beat for Nicki Minaj. So while people were acting unbothered on socials and while Desiree Perez was doing the bots, oh my god, we have screenshots of the YouTube bots. It's crazy, lea. If Lea you better outbid, don't Lea? Don't play with me, nigga. I hope you ain't up around that company.
Speaker 5:No more right now, because Jer and so no wait, hold on Joe, hold on Joe, hold on Joe, hold on Joe, hold on hold on Between the YouTube bots and the Twitter ads and the paid for TikToks and the paid for tweets, to the point where people got their little 250 dollars for a tweet to say something bad about Nicki Minaj and then the next day was like bitch, yeah, anyway, I'm going, I'm listening to Bigfoot. So I don't know why any rapper and I'm not talking about any rapper, I'm talking about a company or companies why would they want to prove everything I've been saying is true? Because what happens is if you tell, if you already make a smear campaign to market and tell people somebody is quote unquote crazy, then you are training them not to believe whatever this person says. So why would Do-Do-Wanna-Beats that night come out like a dummy on the beats and prove my point, and you know what the barbs do.
Speaker 5:So once one point Nicki has been proven, oh, they will go back for the last 50 years and research some shit and they will realize, oh, wow, they've been doing this, they've been doing that, they've been doing that, and now you ask yourself why. So if you think this is an issue between two rappers, you're wrong. This is a dialogue between me, the machine and a bunch of different machines having to come together, constantly using different people. When one fails, let's go somewhere else and try to. It never works, but that's the point that I wanted the world to see, and that is going to be sympathy again. It's going to be nonsense again.
Speaker 2:OK, man, All right, man, Like I said, man, that shit is pure. Whatever she is on, that shit is the purest of the pure. Again, I wanted to say like, hey man, she came in here, Bigfoot wasn't that good, but she had a acapella version that she made into a challenge and they had folks who made it sound even better, Like I wanted to come in and defend that and try to. I was going to try, I was even going to try to play, hey man, the stuff about the mama. Hey, this is hip hop. I can't do it. I can't do it Because once you do that and this is that was just about four minutes of a 45 minute rant that she went on today.
Speaker 1:I could barely listen to the four minutes.
Speaker 2:Like it was crazy, like she. Again she's trying to do the whole industries against me. They're trying to tear me down. They've sent this woman who's a plant to try to take me down. Nikki, just come with music, and when you don't come with the music, I can't defend it. Yeah, coming off the album, coming off like that, the success you were having.
Speaker 1:It was very successful, the album. So I don't understand. I thought the whole powers that be or against me thing is over because of the success of the album and everything, and it was like a commercial hit. But I guess not.
Speaker 2:So let me just say one last thing before you get into your bag, like this didn't sound like someone who just had a big album success. This sounded like someone who found out her husband was potentially with somebody else and went on a bender. It sounded like a woman who's been cheated on and has a lot of things in her system.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe, because the people do be saying that she be coked out, but we don't know that for sure. It's a legend.
Speaker 2:It's just this would have sound like. That's all I'm describing what I'm hearing in this woman's conversation. She don't be sounding sober, she's sporadic I'm talking about the live even when she just said everything that was in Bigfoot. Well, she said on the live and just kept saying it over and over like this does not look like a safe environment for this person. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Something going on and I feel bad and I can't defend it. I hope she can get some help, but we got to get into where this all started at. So I know you've been doing some excellent research.
Speaker 1:OK. So, apparently, because y'all know that Nikki and Meg did Hot Girl Summer at the start of like 2022. It was like during one of the pandemic summers, like the first pandemic summer. So they did that together. They were all over live together, loving on each other, calling each other friends and all that. So what the hell happened, right? So apparently, nikki and Meg did a live together and then Nikki said this is what she said. She said that she was pregnant during that live and that Meg knew that she was pregnant and Meg was encouraging her to drink while or she was pregnant either pregnant or trying to get pregnant and Meg was encouraging her to drink and then said that she should allegedly abort the baby, even if she got pregnant. So this is what Nikki said. So that's why she said that they fell out. Everyone else is saying that it might just be because Meg did the song with Cardi.
Speaker 2:The first one.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Meg went on Twitter said that all of that was lies in like 2023. And then Nikki released a song Ruby to Sleeves. So this was like the first on music shot where she said 700 on them, horses, we fixin' to leave, but I don't fuck with horses since Christopher Reeves. So that was like everyone knew that was about Meg Dang. I don't fuck with horses. So that was the first shot on music that happened, right.
Speaker 2:So Now what you're going to say. This is the first hit on Wax.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so fast forward. There was another shot that she took, but I can't remember that one. So then fast forward. Meg put out his they were going back and forth. They weren't going back and forth, it was just Nikki saying shady shit for a long time, and then Meg hadn't addressed anything for Mad Long, which was a problem of mine for a long time. There's Matt Clips of me saying that Megan needs to just try. Everyone Like you really I said the same thing.
Speaker 1:I wanted her to go at everybody and she did that. So Meg dropped his and she went at everyone. So the bar that everyone is saying is about Nikki. Is these hoes don't be mad at Megan, these hoes mad at Megan's law? I don't really know what the problem is, but I guarantee y'all don't want me to start, right, so Megan's law Talk about it.
Speaker 1:Is the federal law that notifies the public about certain information on registered sex offenders. So these hoes mad at Megan's law means, like you bad, that we can go on the internet and see that your husband is a sexual offender. Yeah, we got him. We got him. He's been caught, you know, in the criminal justice unit. We got him.
Speaker 1:We definitely got him. So after his dropped, Nikki immediately went ballistic. Immediately she was on Twitter 20 minutes later. Yeah, she was on Twitter calling Megan a pathological and manipulative liar, bringing up her relationship with her past label, bringing up her lying on her mama. She called her quote a scary ass pussy ass broke ass hoe, said that she uses ghost writers, said that your ex-man has a diss song about you and went on a whole campaign dragging you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amongst a bunch of other things and see a lot of things I'm seeing. There was like Safari did the same thing with you. You had the same kind of I can't come in here to defend you.
Speaker 1:It's just. Safari was more pathetic, so we didn't hear the shots he took at you because we didn't give a fuck and y'all were around the same age Party's like 40 years old.
Speaker 2:He's way older than me, so he had more of a time advantage on her than you did on Safari. Safari was just glad to be cool with the right chicken at that time.
Speaker 1:Don't nobody talk about Safari in accordance to Nikki anymore. But that was definitely a L it was. And then everyone said that he wrote your shit, just like people are saying that party was writing Megan's shit. So I feel like when it yeah, definitely you're correct In that sense. That's the same exact thing that they're going through.
Speaker 2:You're just rehashing criticism that was already done to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the man that was connected to you, that happens to do music also. Who makes, who hasn't been able to make hits of their own? That's the same thing. The same thing about Safari you can say about party. They have not written hits of their own. Party has written mad hits for other people though.
Speaker 2:But people can't read Mad hits for other people. But people can at least say that the music quality did change once Safari was removed. You can say that Safari had a ear. He could have had a ear.
Speaker 1:Not. Safari was a good A&R.
Speaker 2:Safari A&R.
Speaker 1:Safari was a creative director.
Speaker 2:It could have been.
Speaker 1:Not a jean vest.
Speaker 2:I'm saying when you see the cat working, you came in here with a fucking jean vest. A nigga who's going to pull up with a Gatorade sweat suit, like I saw this in a Gatorade leather suit, is the sickest nigga out Like that nigga got to be creative, because who pulling up with the Gatorade to match?
Speaker 1:I can never forget him. Just like pop lock in behind Nicki Minaj, and then she was just like and then that's my man, I'm going to stick beside him. Because he had that hammer. That dick was that. It was it. We eventually found out why Nicki was so stupid about Safari.
Speaker 3:That big stupid ass dick.
Speaker 1:All right, let's continue.
Speaker 2:That was very uncomfortable. I don't know how to feel about any of that conversation. You could have left all of that out.
Speaker 1:I feel like that was gold. So after she went on her Twitter little rampage she sent out a couple tweets. She goes on Instagram Live. She previews Bigfoot. So we hear her first little shot in Bigfoot. She said bad bitch, she's like six foot, I call a big foot. The bitch fell off. I said get up on your good foot. I like that. Get up on your good foot.
Speaker 2:The beat was just horrible. I didn't like the beat at all. The beat was horrible and the fact that she told us every line on her live.
Speaker 1:That was also a problem yeah. Because, all of the zingers. We had already experienced them.
Speaker 2:You should have had a whole verse in there where you was just exposing an abortion bag had from the baby or something. You should have been had a whole little thing going on.
Speaker 1:And I feel like it's kind of like when you watch a movie trailer and then you're like, ooh, this movie looks so good. And then you watch the movie and you realize that all of the good parts were in the trailer she should have just took a push of team.
Speaker 2:You are hiding an abortion Like for real. She just pulled it one after the other.
Speaker 1:She should have literally just brought out a secret baby or something I don't know.
Speaker 2:She said you should have been like you didn't get the life. Oh, you got the baby sucked or something like that, or the baby flushed. Ha ha ha ha. Rope V way bitch, she ain't really give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? You're going to win crazy with that.
Speaker 1:OK, so those were the couple shots that they took at each other, right? So I want to go into a little bit, just a little bit more detail with the lyrical breakdown for Bigfoot, right? So I have the lyrics here because Nikki immediately gets into it right.
Speaker 2:She called Jean yourself and was like hey, these are what the lines mean. I want to make sure you get this correct.
Speaker 1:So she said you flow was such a bore. Drinking a bottle of Henny through a straw. I've seen the pictures. But you better stop that dialogue. That was good. Hit Carl and buy a catalog. So that was her former manager. So she threatened to buy her catalog, which I mean I guess you could do. Could she, though? Could she?
Speaker 2:Ken Barbie.
Speaker 1:Oh OK, Thank you very much. I do have that same. See, Nikki, how hard you make this. You do make things hard, so apparently I was supposed to defend you. It would be difficult for Nicki Minaj to buy Megan's catalog because she blew her advance allegedly all alleged this is coming from its Ken Barbie on Twitter. So allegedly she blew her advance from her last tour, so now this current tour is all collateral. Her touring is free because she owes the government money and there's leans on the profits that she's going to be making. So there's not that much liquid that she could. There's not that much liquid money that she could use to buy Megan's catalog, so that doesn't really stand on much.
Speaker 2:So, unfortunately, this next tour she's about to go on would be essentially be a slave tour, because she's working for the US government for free.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what what's Her Face is doing right now.
Speaker 2:The Pink Kutakente tour.
Speaker 1:The one that don't ever show up on time. What's her face? Lauren Hill. That's what she doing. She didn't pay no taxes. And now she going on tour and she cursing niggas out Like I'm going to show up. Lauren Hill don't pay no taxes either. Yeah, lauren Hill don't pay no goddamn taxes. And now she's on tour, and this tour is the Uncle Sam tour. This is the Pay my Taxes tour for Lauren.
Speaker 2:Hill. Yo this the Pink Uncle Sam tour. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:So moving on, she said how the eff your mother, how you eff your mother, man, when she die, which is crazy. What is, what does that mean? Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 2:You eff your mother's man.
Speaker 1:What does that mean, nicki Minaj, and how do you know this?
Speaker 2:My theory.
Speaker 1:Does she call Kelsey?
Speaker 2:My theory Hold on. She said eff your mother's man.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So, Carl, you know Carl, the guy who owned the label she was originally signed to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, was Carl with her mom.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying I don't know.
Speaker 1:A legend, because is it Carl?
Speaker 2:with Kelsey now.
Speaker 1:Speculation based on nothing is what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, Carl's with Kelsey now Is he? Because I remember that was the big deal about look it up, just to check and make sure I'm right. But I believe that was the big thing about Kelsey was that she was dating the label head of what Megan was trying to get rid of. She was trying to get out of that label whole dispute she was having, they were saying that she was dating him.
Speaker 2:They like I think that's her fiance. I'm not even lying to you. Like I remember seeing that, like that was a big thing about why Kelsey wasn't talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have no idea and I can't even Google this right now. I don't know none of their last names.
Speaker 2:OK well, you do, I'll go Google it and you do you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the next couple bars I want to get into. So I think the next verse she went off a little bit. She said this little begging whore talking about Megan's law, for a free beat you could hit Megan Roar If you, a ghost writer, party in Megan's jaw, shots thrown, but I still ain't let Megan score. And then she goes into the little snippet bad bitch. She, like six foot, call a bitch, big foot bitch, fell off. I said get up on your good foot. So yeah, she literally I think in that little part she she definitely did go off in that little part. But also that was one of the she tweeted that. She also tweeted that that was in the trailer for the movie. So I already I already saw that coming and it didn't hit the way that it was supposed to. And then towards the end. So the outro is uncomfortable. Yeah, uncomfortable is the word that I'm definitely going to use for that.
Speaker 1:She whispers the outro, she's like speaking low and she was she straight up, just like ASMR whispers some of the parts of the outro and she's like now listen up, big foot. You know I got a lot of tea, I went easy on you. Fragment, glass fragment, foot ass bitch, which is hilarious, but I just I don't know I think that's a key for real Like that's literally like if, if me and my friends didn't like somebody that gets shot, that got shot like glass matte glass fragment, foot ass bitch, is something that we would definitely call her 1000%, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't be making fun of somebody that got shot.
Speaker 2:Oh, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:But I feel like that's a key. It's very unhinged, though. All right, let me just make that. She was whispering all that.
Speaker 2:Let me make a quick correction. So since boyfriend of Meg's ex friend, kelsey, has close ties to Carl Crawford, so whoever she's dating is tied to Carl Crawford, she's not OK. So just wanted to correct that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I have no idea what Kelsey's doing. I don't care at all. No shade, though, because she did fuck you, man. She did. We got that on wax. We could put that on her jacket, like Megan did fuck her best friend's van, which is crazy. I feel like we just like smooth past that because of all the trauma that she went through, but like when all the dust settles and all that, we going to spin that block and we going to talk about that, because that's crazy. That's why I'm not mad at her.
Speaker 2:Going out there and being like nah, I'm switching teams on you, I'm with the niggas that you was trying to sue now, yeah, yeah because I don't trust you.
Speaker 1:I found out in this situation, at the same time that you were going through your traumatic shit, that my best friend stabbed me in the back. So Kelsey was going through a bunch of complicated emotions with her friendship, with her, at the same time that Megan was going through that traumatic shit.
Speaker 2:So you think she shot her.
Speaker 1:I don't think she shot her. I don't think she shot her. I feel like if Kelsey shot her, then Tory's lawyer needs to be thrown behind bars, Because what the hell, how'd you fumble that so bad? And then why didn't Tory be like nah, this bitch shot her, Her. She shot her in the foot. It was her.
Speaker 2:You're trying to hold it down.
Speaker 1:Like for what, nah, I don't care.
Speaker 2:You got to hold your old work down.
Speaker 1:Nope, If not married, if we just dating and you shot somebody, I'm not no.
Speaker 2:I'm holding my I'm not writing or dying for you.
Speaker 1:I'm snitching immediately. I'm cooperating with the police to the full extent that I can.
Speaker 2:Whenever she worked, she always worked, so you got to hold your work down.
Speaker 1:If the police ever watch our podcast, they know for a fact that I'm cooperating with them. I want no smoke with y'all.
Speaker 2:You think these people would have cooperated? These people right here would have cooperated.
Speaker 1:If it was against people who they didn't give a fuck about, ok, that's why I said not my husband.
Speaker 2:Cooperate with authorities.
Speaker 1:Not putting my livelihood at risk for you. I got it here, you didn't put a ring on my finger and I'm about to do what? Right? I'm about to tuck and roll, tuck and roll, all right. I want to next really quickly switch gears. We're still going to stay on Megan and Nikki, but I want to switch gears and talk about how Megan mostly came for men in the industry. In this song there was one little bar about Nikki and then everyone's focusing on that because Nikki completely.
Speaker 2:She spasmed on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she unraveled and went unhinged because of this one bar. But Megan came out and actually went at Drake a good amount, so she said there were two bars specifically that went at Drake. She said these niggas hate on BBLs and be walking around with the same scars and allegedly Drake got his body done. He got the lipo and the six pack.
Speaker 2:You can see the little cuts. You can see the little, the way the belly button look. It does look a little funny in the light, drake.
Speaker 1:The shadows don't look natural.
Speaker 2:The shadows ain't shadowing.
Speaker 1:No, they. It doesn't look like an actual six pack.
Speaker 2:The ad looks a little arched up. It looked like somebody went in there with a little scope section.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Went a little sculpted knife. Looked like that was made for you, A BB6. Oh my goodness. And then she also said which I like this one a little bit more. She said cosplay, gangsters, fake acts, face ass, fake ass accents posted in another nigger hood like a bad bitch. That's definitely Drake.
Speaker 1:Drake is known for being posted in other niggers hoods and then, at the end, the ad lib is where are you from? Where are you from Drake? Where are you from Drake? Where are you from Fake ass accents? Where are you from? Are you from Jamaica? Are you from the UK?
Speaker 2:The thing is this, though if anybody deserved bars besides Nicky, it was Drake.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like Drake, has came at her on two different projects.
Speaker 1:Like a little bitch, inserting yourself in women's business, like, oh, this is my girl, this is my friend, so I'm going to know, shut your manly ass up and sit down.
Speaker 2:Or maybe, as we're learning now, it might be doctor-generated manliness.
Speaker 1:It's definitely doctor-generated manliness. Dr Miami has taken several shots at Drake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did see that several.
Speaker 1:I love dr Miami's tick tock when the doctor out to Santana, or Satina Santana, that's his social media manager.
Speaker 2:They've been exposing you Drizzy, like they've been saying hey, man, it's some funny business going on. Hey, if you, if you, if you got cut up, you got to speak out. If you got the nip tuck, you got to speak out.
Speaker 1:No that, like you, can't be the first man to he's not Kevo, kevo band, whatever that name is.
Speaker 2:What's his name? Kevo bands or something like that? He's been openly with the, with the cut up. You can see his shit look like somebody put a square in him, like a square muscle in his that's.
Speaker 1:That's disgusting. I have no idea who that is, though I've never seen him before.
Speaker 2:I think his name is like Kevo bands or something like that. But yeah, like it's, a lot of guys has been open about getting the cut up. Like Drake, you have to lead the, the revolution. You have to. You have to spark he would be the biggest nigga to do so, though he would be the most popular nigga. Yeah you got it, you got to pull it out. I mean it's obvious.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's the hill that you want to die on my guy.
Speaker 2:I mean it's obvious that he he's getting cut up. I mean it's obvious, you can see it in the, in the, in the picture that he did release, there wasn't enough editing that you could do to put the belly button in the right place.
Speaker 1:Drake is really such a bad bitch like.
Speaker 2:I can't be mad at him, though, because when you're a pop star, I mean you're hailed to a particular image, like you kind of got like people were saying he done doing it for the women, but honestly he's doing it for the men men do stuff for men all the time.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not okay, because women do stuff for women all the time. Yeah, I just think that it's gay when you, when you say that, like you do stuff for other men's approval, it's completely fine. These are your peers, you want their approval.
Speaker 2:Like, like people don't think about it like the. Honestly, if you, if you keep it in 100 Drake, you have enough money and fame that a woman's pretty much gonna do whatever you want to do for you. Like you don't need abs for her, no, so you're getting the abs because you want to flex on the men and Look like you're a real kind of masculine man, and that's just the honest truth about it.
Speaker 1:You want to look like you.
Speaker 2:You got it all for you what you want to flex on on the average Joe or the average guy or your peers by saying like, oh, I can make slaps and I got abs. You can cut bacon off. It's like we know that. It's not true, dog. We know, like you washboard.
Speaker 3:You don't have that.
Speaker 2:Those are generated. Those are AI generated abs.
Speaker 1:They're doctor in surgically inputted abs those are test tube abs.
Speaker 2:Those were old cow meat. Oh my god you know what I'm saying? They took fat from a like a dying Asian man not stem cell abs. Yeah, like you got, like you got abortion, oh my god, is that a Donis's fucking stem cells?
Speaker 1:Did you use the umbilical cord For your muscle, for your ab muscle?
Speaker 2:those abortion.
Speaker 1:BBL. Fucking bad bitch surgery, drake. Is that what you did? Allegedly? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:Those are abortion that was absolutely unhinged full of stem cells. Those are Christopher Reeve abs.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there's there's, there's more on this.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a ton.
Speaker 1:It's a ton. So apparently, after all of the songs came out, the Texas Cemetery where Megan's mother, holly Thomas, was laid to rest Was doxxed okay, yeah, released so doxxing Is like slaying, for like sending, sending documents so like releasing documents, so like it's when somebody's Information is released without their consent. So this includes bank information, addresses, phone numbers, criminal history identification and all of in job history things of that nature.
Speaker 1:So Um, it's the shortened version of dropping docks, dropping documents. So um, the Texas Cemetery where Megan's mom has been laid to rest has been doxxed, which is absolutely unhinged and Unnecessary, like that's so weird of y'all. That is very weird of y'all. Whoever Felt it necessary to put that information on the internet, like why?
Speaker 2:is it true that it got vandalized?
Speaker 1:No, so her, um, her mother's Gravestone was not vandalized. The cemetery did raise security, okay, and then they they did let TMZ know that, like security was raised around this because of the beef that's going on with niki and Um Meg and the fact that it was doxxed, and they're getting harassing calls and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the barbs, I gotta realize this is just a hip-hop beef. This isn't drill.
Speaker 1:Like that's really crazy.
Speaker 2:You don't gotta go to your ops.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying loved ones, uh, resting plays and it's like you got desecrated like, so there's like cops and please don't do that increased personnel at that funeral, I mean at that cemetery now, because of of all of this beef which is, which is crazy, like that's, that's really crazy.
Speaker 2:We need that to the hood rappers. We need that to the dirty hood rappers. Okay, we like when they do it, not when come on this high-profile women here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is not ladylike behavior. So, um, so many more people have been doxxed when they speak out against Nicki Minaj, like, just like people on twitter, people on tiktok. If you Posted a video like, not in favor of Nicki Minaj, then there's a possibility that you will be doxxed. So what's?
Speaker 1:yeah, so, um, I don't know if you saw that tiktoker, that white boy that posted that video, and he completely dragged Nicki Minaj and he called her Um it was. His name is, I think, bella de la Gio. So he posted it on saturday, january 24th. It was, I like right after everything happened and he said, um, the. He deleted the video now, but he said that she's quote a disgusting and reprehensible person by pretty much all metrics of basic Humanity and common decency. So he went on. I think it was like a three minute video. I didn't even watch the whole thing because I don't like hearing white men's opinions on anything having to do with us at all.
Speaker 1:I don't care what your opinion is, but he was doxxed and he's autistic. We, we now know that this is an autistic man and he's been doxxed and he took His videos down. He's been getting death threats and things of that nature and there's a list of people, a whole list of people, that have been doxxed. So in on that list tiktoker um kita, rose jasmin's garden, terry joe and kimberley nicole foster on twitter, and then the list goes on and on and on of, like other people, I think this is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:This is. This is not Real life. This is literally just like nicky minaj does not know who you are and nicky has not Said anything to De weaponize her fan base at all.
Speaker 2:She's just letting it happen it happen historically, though, when it when has she ever, she never has.
Speaker 1:So let's get into how nicky minaj weaponizes her fan base, and not just nicky minaj like Are are you responsible for how your fan base Behaves as an artist or as a public figure?
Speaker 2:I think to a degree, if you're not openly speaking out against something, then yeah, you're definitely Not. You're definitely part of it. You're part of the problem.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I I also. Yeah, like she should have tweeted A couple days ago to stop doing this. So there is a video that I do want to play for you To show you exactly how unhinged, and I do want you to put it up to show you how unhinged nicky minaj fans are. Okay, all right. So here it is absolutely unhinged. So this is a tiktok and this is, um, a barb. He's going to somebody's house. The note says like don't ever speak on nicky again, or else, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Like Well, y'all really feel like nicky love y'all that much that is absolutely crazy. Like they got folks. You see what happened with ruby rose. They exposed her close friends.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I saw that she was talking about how nicky minaj is evil.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I got it right up here, hold on. I can pull it up. So ruby rose, nicky minaj, evil as fuck. Only option is to marry a pedophile bitch ass. I mean it's gonna be bitch evil. Pretty in the face, that's nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's but body botched as fuck. Evil spirit as bitch Old as fuck ruby can definitely call somebody body botched because that body be body and period trying to keep up.
Speaker 2:Ozimic really saved your big back self Beefing with these young girls. So, lame Bitch wash, you're 40. Take care, papa and your drug addiction. Bringing up the kid is is that's wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, speaking of her drug addiction, that is also something that Ken barbie mentioned, I think in his tweet, because it was very long, so let me just really read it real quick. She said, um, or he said how are you gonna buy anybody's catalog when you got liens on your publishing and your tour deal? You blew your advance. Um, let me skip forward to the. You want to holler that People judge your disgusting ass husband because they're not used to being loved.
Speaker 1:But you know who was used to being loved, exactly like you, wendy Williams. He loved. He loved her pockets to the end, letting her do all types of drugs so he could keep digging in that purse. While you sitting up there looking like an ass, that man is keeping you all drugged up and mixing your coke with horse tranquilizers. Call back to the last episode proxy war, um and ozimpic, so he can make you more stupid while taking your money and making you uh, look crazy. You have to buy love. I'm not gonna finish. He went off and this is all alleged, and he don't know the woman, so he's also a crazy person a little bit. But he did get public records when it came to um, the liens and things of that nature and on her publishing and the fact that her her next tour is, um Basically in the hole because she blew her advance. So he got, he had all the documents. Um, if you Do, you think we should just Put them up real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I'll put, I'll bring some of them up Yep Documents.
Speaker 1:so yeah, and then that is everything I think I have. On the, the nicky and mag beef, we learned what doxing was. We educated the masses, we did and the, the people are unhinged and stan culture is really scary because these people feel like they know nicky menage and they feel like they have to Defend her. And nicky menage would not spit on you if you were on fire, she wouldn't.
Speaker 2:If anything, somebody needs to get her a little help. It's. It's just that bad man like Again, I can understand, and the problem the problem is going to be Is that a lot of the forces in the media is going to enable her behavior. They're going to continue to do it like joe did. Joe, it wasn't no reason why you couldn't just cut that. Live on, let me cut that. Uh, that's, the space is on.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, but joe's the media personality, so like. But don't tell me you care about her. No more, don't care, don't ever say you care about her no more.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we're so. Don't ever say you that your sister, don't say that.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying is, you know me? We ain't in this for friends. If we, we gonna let the motherfucker go. You know what I'm saying? That's just gonna be how we give it up. But don't say that no more, because that didn't have to happen. There's a lot of people who did. She did some stuff on her own life. You want. You seen her up there. She started getting sporadic. You could cut that shit, but you didn't. So, hey, this is gonna look bad, for I think I think at the end of the day, even though she's going to be enabled, I think it's going to be like Israel and Palestine. I think everybody's going to be promoting her like Israel, but the people, the masses, they're going to be with Meg side like it's Palestine.
Speaker 2:Yeah so it's, uh, it's bad man because it sucks. And I'll just say this last point because a lot of y'all girls that's hating on nicky, y'all had them bangs, I remember.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, like I, literally I I think nicky is unhinged right now, but I wanted that like pink track in the back. I remember y'all had that so no bad, but my mom, my Haitian ass mom, was not letting me get no type of pink hair period, point blank. But like, uh Like.
Speaker 2:I remember y'all had a little top.
Speaker 1:We all wanted to emulate her at one point I had a little skinny jeans on, like her I remember.
Speaker 2:So all y'all that's hating, make sure y'all know that y'all pay, y'all hating on someone that pay homage. Nikki was slick, like how we talked about how a lot of the girls was able to uh, you know, use the internet to learn how to do make. She was y'all first model.
Speaker 1:That was the first one y'all modeled, y'all self-all Remember that body wise and all that remember that was one of that was the first time, because this was something I was realizing.
Speaker 2:Y'all really didn't know, because even with little kim, little kim was such a uh, uh, I wouldn't say extravagant, but she was so extra with it Mm-hmm, that it wasn't really something you could copy, because it was so like copy her, so but niki was more tangible and because that was like the first time y'all got to see a woman that collectively a lot of guys liked, because she was in hip hop and was popular and her bars were were good, that it kind of had y'all gravitate to we were very enamored with her because before then it was just like when I was in high school and younger, with the women that we talked about wasn't in hip hop or r&b, they was pouring up porn stars and y'all wasn't watching the porn.
Speaker 2:That we was watching, like it was. That wasn't happening in high school, in middle school, so it wasn't until that one girl came and y'all was able to be like oh so, this is what the guy's like. So put respect on her, on auntie, put respect on auntie but respect on that's all, lord All right. So let's, uh, let's switch gears a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are we getting into next? We got to talk about I remembered to not unplug it this time. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you learn, you learn it.
Speaker 2:So this is gonna be. We're gonna be taking two little things that happen in the headlines and I'm gonna kind of learn them in together, but it's gonna start with Shaquille O'Neal. So he had country Wayne shout out to our guy. This is third time he's been on mentioning in our show.
Speaker 1:Uh, but is he like doing a? He's probably on a special or something. I'm pretty sure there's something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's promoting something, he's selling to top of the year. A lot of comedians like to do stuff at the top of the year because they Can sell out for their tours later on. So this is him in uh country Wayne, talking about Opening up to women.
Speaker 8:It's like a relationship the day you fall out, that woman ain't interested as you think. Yeah, once you start complaining and dragging your feet, you don't want to hear no complaint the day you come home and think you could be like I was down, I lost it. She's like she gonna be stroke your ego, but she gonna remember that time you. You cannot let them see you one time Die. The world can't see your head down one time ever talk about it. So I I'd set up you both to know that they you can Like, and I know that you've expected Come up.
Speaker 9:I don't want to get to like Dr Phil. Doug, look, no, I don't think you've ever had someone that you really could trust and really open up.
Speaker 8:Now, if you want to keep it now, if you want to give somebody else some cool y'all the time, I'm saying, if you want to, if you want to bail on this, I'm just. I'm just.
Speaker 9:Open up to a woman, yeah never, no never, When's the last time you think you've opened up to a woman? We don't. Yeah, your whole life. Got players like like I couldn't mean him related. Yeah it's up for a time me.
Speaker 8:I can tell you guys there's some connection here, oh no they're gonna tell you you can't because you know why.
Speaker 9:But it's a trap because you know I'm traveling like a motherfucker. No, I'm gonna tell you why. Because once you do, whenever something go down, they gonna throw it back in your face. That's, that's why that's why so you cannot so?
Speaker 2:shack brought up an interesting point about you know, when you fall short, especially in their community, when you're somebody who is a hire and a provider, when you fall the the reminder that you fail is a hire. So before we got to talk into this was a lot of people were shitting on shack Saying, oh, look at him trying to talk down, saying oh, women ain't gonna be there. I think it's pretty interesting to talk about somebody else before we get into it, which was miss gail king, and she had this to say about an individual that she priored, you know, dated prior. So Shack's example bringing it up again.
Speaker 5:Do you think you could lend me four thousand dollars? I'm like, oh god, ask what it's for. He said, yeah, it was for uh, a child support issue.
Speaker 2:Do you think?
Speaker 2:so she went on to say and this is from the uh black billionaires, and this is the whole tweet says Gail king says she loaned the man that she was dating two months For two months, four thousand dollars to cover his child's poor issues. He paid this quote, he paid back in time, but I never looked at the relationship the same. I couldn't get over it Via the pivot. So she was on a pivot with uh ryan clark and those guys and this is where it's tough, whereas, like, that's exactly what he's saying, point blank, period. So this is not, this is not no running the mill. Pull her out to the jig of boo black woman. This is Gayle King. Yeah, this is a top tier, uh elite black woman bringing up a situation in which a man paid her back the money that he needed but she still could look really like pick the best best friend, continue.
Speaker 1:She picked the hood of Oprah. Yeah. Like you the best best friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can just be rich and in bitter together, but no, like. This is where a lot of guys talk about where you can be.
Speaker 1:I hope you're a bump Vulnerable. I really do. I hope I have bump and purses and it makes them and watch.
Speaker 2:Uh, but yes, this is where this word comes out to. So I can't. To me, when I see, when I hear stories like this and I see interaction like this, people will say like, hey, like, why don't you hold your brothers accountable when they're doing X, y and Z wrong? And it's like, because this is the, the, the, the risk, the risk isn't worth the reward.
Speaker 2:In that situation for me to tell somebody hey, oh, you need to be this kind of individual when I know at your first failure you're going to be looked at like you always fail I'm not going to be mad at you for falling Like they'll be saying like oh, why don't we say none to your homeboys when they be doing X, y and Z?
Speaker 2:Because I know if my homeboy fails at his work or his job, that girl going to leave him anyway, not not because she's there for the money, but because he can't hold up his own anymore.
Speaker 2:So if he's holding up his own and he's able to do it to a fact where he might get do something else, I'm not going.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to say, oh, he don't, he shouldn't be doing it. I'm not going to tell him oh, you wrong, for that, I'm not, I may not live that life for myself, but I'm not going to tell somebody else who's worked hard and done all this time to create this lifestyle that he shouldn't be able to experience the way he should. I'm not going to shit on his parade, so that's why I again I think those two topics kind of in line. I do want to hear your thoughts on it as well, because I talked about it prior to where it's like y'all don't have examples of how to really be in relationships, when y'all hear women who are at the top of the top sound like this. So what does that make you think when you, when you hear this, what Shaq said in regards to being able to open up women, and then seeing what Gail brought up in that conversation with the pivot I think what Shaq said is a sentiment that men have had for a very long time.
Speaker 1:Like men of all socio economic levels have the same, this same problem with women. Like they open up to us and then, when we get into the heat of the moment, we use your vulnerability as ammo, which I don't know what the fuck that's about. Honestly, I really don't, like I really I wish I looked into this before and I wish I knew, like, like psychologically, what that was about, because it has to be some type of like you know, like warfare on our part.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's very interesting to, because she said that on the same podcast that Shaq was on, where he talked about some of the flaws he had with him and his wife and how you know he was cheating and stuff like that. But you kind of got to kind of put things in perspective. If you feel like you can't open up to the woman that you call your wife and you can't share your vulnerabilities with her because you feel like it, in fear, is going to bring you back and take you, like of course you're going to cheat, of course you're going to respond the way you did because you're not even with her for legitimate reasons, shaq was going to be regardless, though.
Speaker 2:I mean get that off.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't feel like when everybody was kind of bringing it up, that was going to cheat, whether he could like openly cry in the fetal position on her lap, suck it her to the or not, like I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't say that he would cheat. I can say that if he felt more comfortable.
Speaker 2:You know, because if he could see this with you, I did your idea of cheating him, just sleeping with other women. My idea is, he's saying, my idea is he's saying I'm going to sleep with other women, but I'm going to do it with you, knowing that it's happening and you're going to understand what's going on. There's a difference between opening up with a woman and being vulnerable. And that's a real thing. Hey, I love you. You are the mother of my children, but I am the big ticket. I'm just kidding, he's not the big ticket, I'm the big diesel, I'm Superman. So you know what? When I go to Milwaukee, there's a shawty with that. I liked that. She going to get it when I go over there and you're going to still have this house in this mansion and she going to have a little apartment in a little Honda and that's just what it is. But I can if I'm not open, able to open, be vulnerable Honda.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying you better nigga when you shag, when you do, when you, when you him like, it's just a different kind of lifestyle.
Speaker 2:You better not show this bitch a life of luxury, I mean it may not be a luxury, but it might be a luxury apartment, but that's what I'm just saying. Where it's like it's a different lifestyle and you have to be able to communicate that. And if you can't communicate that, then you get caught up in cheating situations where now you being exposed when you could Just been like, hey, I love you to death, I want you to have this lifestyle, I want you to still be in the house so I can be my kids, but you just going to understand that you ain't going to be the only one.
Speaker 1:And that comes from really being vulnerable and open to your partner, because if anybody can do it, I guess you know, I guess you can't open, you can't come from a place of honesty and transparency for you to be like I don't want to cheat on you, but I do want to get it. I want to get things from other people that I can't get everything from you.
Speaker 2:And you have to understand, when you with somebody like that, that that's probably going to be a concession that you have to do, because look at her now. She created basketball wives solely off of his name.
Speaker 1:She's a television executive off of his last name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she's nothing else like respectfully talking, like, yes, she put in the work and she worked with the networks and all that stuff. But none of that work is value If you don't get on for Shaquille O'Neill. I don't like the way you were, I'm just that's just real reword that that's just real talk and she doesn't have Shaq's kids and gets married from that.
Speaker 1:Who is?
Speaker 2:she, she networked correctly, oh, but she can. All I'm ever saying is this, and this is what.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying. Your wording is very aggressive, sir.
Speaker 2:It's because I have a heart. I have a very true belief that everybody's work is in value the same Everybody's hard. Everybody's hard work is in the value to say because you who you were married to I'm just saying because who you open. But like what, it's not just that is married, had kids, for was in a high profile relationship with like at all steps on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like all that had a high profile divorce, like.
Speaker 2:All of that puts you in the news, all of that puts you out there had a high profile TV show.
Speaker 2:So I mean, the only reason I bring all that up is because people brought that up when he was on the pivot. And just to see this example be brought up by somebody like Gail King, I can't be mad at how the brothers respond, especially when they up Like you. Want these guys to say, oh, why can't you be a faithful man when you have all this money and stuff is because, is it? Is it really worth me being faithful? I can't tell somebody, hey, I love you, I want you to be in my life and they remain in my life, even though I'm going to be with other women. And they just got to understand that now I got a lot to you and tell you, you know I'm not doing it. I got to hide and make sure I'm paying for extra, I'm wasting money just because I got a lot of. When you know I'm that nigga, you should just accept hey, this will come with being with that nigga. They wouldn't one swinging, you know they ain't swinging, you know that from jump.
Speaker 1:If I was one of these girls that was dating right. I feel like I would definitely have the mindset that like.
Speaker 2:So you feel, like with Gail King, like, do you, do you think that those examples have been like taught to y'all just so poorly from people in her position?
Speaker 1:Um. What are you?
Speaker 2:asking me word. I feel like people in her position will tell individuals To shoot for the stars per se. But really, in reality, most people are just going to get into the atmosphere and so, instead of telling people what's going to be probably best interest for them, they tell them what benefits her. So she's going to tell women oh, follow your career, do all this, x, y and Z. But then she is this person who would bring up this kind of conversation. The shit on a guy Like. What kind of example is that for someone who says I want to be a wife but then also want to be a career woman? Granted, gail King isn't a wife, but that would be somebody who a wife would aspire to be, in a way, professionally.
Speaker 1:I I. That was mad. You made the question longer. I did. Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what in all of those words was the question. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2:How did you feel like that leadership from women that are in those positions are being shown to you when it comes to being involved with other men or being involved with men?
Speaker 1:Are they showing you all right leadership or if you're taking relationship advice from people whose relationships you don't actually like, know the ins and outs of like in your personal life, I feel like you're stupid If you're like okay, if you're taking relationship advice but it's not even just advice, it's a stigma too. If you're listening and trying to model yourself after somebody who is not successful in a part of their life, that is important to you, that you're trying to be successful in.
Speaker 2:That's just dumb, but she is, though, if I'm trying to be professionally, someone like Gail King well, if I'm trying to be married, I wouldn't listen to Gail King.
Speaker 1:If I'm trying to be a journalist, but you know what, you know what you know what you're a professional woman.
Speaker 2:But you're not a. You're not a. That's not painted to you all. That way it is painted. I can have everything. I can be the mom, I can have my career, I can be the wife, like it's told that told to y'all. I can be all through everything and we both know time is 24 hours in a day. You can't. You got to be afraid of them. You can't do all that. You're going to fall in different areas. In regards to that, it doesn't seem like it's real women in her position that sitting there, being like hey, sometimes you got to pick, and this is what it looks like when you pick. At least Ebony case started to be honest with women and saying that, even though she's still on the BS you heard about this. What happened to his chief fan?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:So there was a chief. You know the game just happened this weekend. There was a chief fan who had a few friends over at his house and apparently the authorities came over and they found three of his friends did in his backyard. So I'm going to read this I had a tweet. That's crazy. So apparently people have been calling his dude about. You know, got it in the backyard that they found. They've been calling him for two days. This nigga said he was sleep for those two days and that's why he missed the call. So this is from Colin rugs, but it shows police cuffing and then releasing HIV scientists after three dead Kansas City chief fans in his backyard. So he names the people.
Speaker 2:The most alarming fact was that the mysterious death is that the bodies were his backyard for two whole days. When family members called, visited home will, is did not respond. It wasn't until his fiance broke into the basement and found one of the bodies in the backyard that the police were called. Let's see what else he said. He came out drinking a glass of wine in his underwear before being cuffed. He then told that he didn't realize his friends were still in his backyard until the police showed up at his door.
Speaker 1:So apparently he just checked into rehab.
Speaker 2:Oh, he just recently did, after he bailed out 10 hours ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he checked into rehab oh that nigga allegedly did it. His family is awaiting the toxicology results.
Speaker 2:So apparently like. I feel like this man might did some, some break some decks, some dexter stuff too, and then just left him in the backyard while it was cold, because it's crazy, crazy. I can't get out on bail. Yeah, that's wild. So you try to tell me I and he's is all white men per just so y'all know, three bodies in the backyard and I'm gonna let him go out on bail. That's insane.
Speaker 1:He. He went into rehab to face his addiction head-on.
Speaker 2:So that means he admitted that something happened? No, yeah, cuz, what is your? What is your addiction? Well, I think.
Speaker 1:I think him going into rehab is probably trying to solidify the fact that he was passed out into in the house for two days, like that's probably what his defense is trying to like. If I was his lawyer, I'd be like go to rehab, say that you have a drug problem. Then you'd be like that's why I was passed out in the house for two days and didn't see, hear anybody calling me, didn't know that there were people dead in my backyard. It's because I was doing mad drugs when everyone was here. I passed out when everyone was here and I did not know what the fuck happened.
Speaker 2:That should not. That's just not gonna flow. That's just not gonna fly at all. I'm not having that. Y'all go. I thought y'all gotta bring this nigga back to jail. Raised, raised the bail up another another half a million Cuz. That ain't hot, that ain't. We can't go for that. And they doing the HIV scientists.
Speaker 1:So who the? The people that died were HIV HIV scientists.
Speaker 2:No, apparently, from what I just read from that tweet, he is oh.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, release HIV scientists after five and three years.
Speaker 1:So he, so his friends, froze to death.
Speaker 2:No, they haven't any. They found any sign of a foul play on their bodies or anything. The autopsy it said. It said that they they froze to death man ain't no way three men freezing to death Outside on their own fruition we're all of them doing mad drugs like.
Speaker 1:That's why they're waiting the toxic. They're probably waiting the toxicology results from the deceased and from him. He's probably gonna get a craze if because if they have the same like concoction of drugs in their system, then Maybe everyone just pass the fuck out and some people passed out outside and he just happened to pass out inside because it's his house and it's just like a freak accident, or maybe he dexter them.
Speaker 2:I'm going with the dexter theory until to to approve and otherwise it's been a lot of stuff that's been going on. A man in these little suburban neighborhoods remember to do Virginia who blew his house up. Yeah so I mean a lot of crazy stuff that's been going on. Man, a lot of crazy stuff that's been going on.
Speaker 1:He was. He was in his underwear and holding a wine glass when police arrived. Yeah, that's why I was I was reading that last part off. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:He was nuts. He was nuts, but we'll definitely feel y'all in if we get any more information. That's crazy. Those guys didn't get to see a cheese go to the Super Bowl this year. Let's get into this journalist in Houston. So this was probably one of the ones I Seen in the docket. That kind of upset me when I was just coming through, because this is this is so disrespectful man. So Billy Binion. He tweeted out that this journalist, priscilla Varel, a few Years back, the police in Texas arrested her because of the work is often critical of them. Last week, a federal court said that the cops Didn't necessarily violate her right and everybody Qualified immunity. Everybody got qualified immunity. So basically, she lives in Texas. She has a pretty big following on Facebook where she's exposing the local police. In 2017. The police lots a criminal Destigation on her. They subpoena her, along with several people's phone records. What they were basically saying was that she acquired information incorrectly from the police officers. All she did was she called up, asked them about what was going on and somebody told her.
Speaker 1:She literally just Executed her rights as a citizen.
Speaker 2:She called in and was basically asking what was going on. Somebody told her what happened and the police officers got upset about it because she was able to produce that. So they were saying that the reason why what she did was illegal. She's staying to benefit From the information coming out. Now let's use.
Speaker 1:Announced that she was a journalist when she called and asked for the information.
Speaker 2:No they're saying the fact that the way that she acquired the information and she released it, the reason why it's illegal is because she quote-unquote stand to benefit, because she would get basically basically following of Potentially, you know monetary gains for it, all that kind of stuff, which is what every newspaper does, every media publication. That's a business does this.
Speaker 1:Every journalist when they expose things, gets a following because they did their job as a Journalist.
Speaker 2:But she already had this one, but they're trying to basically say that, oh, she would acquire more of a following because of what she did, and it's just all BS.
Speaker 2:And the reason why this bothers me so much is because you hear by everybody says oh, free speech, oh, I should be able to say what I want to say, and when free speech is violated in people's faces, nobody goes to bat for this. When y'all want to call people racial slurs, homophobic slurs, when y'all want to Trash people for living lives that you don't agree with, oh y'all want to say it's free speech then. But then, when it comes to actual journalism being stopped if there isn't for people like her, like these people can do whatever they want. These authorities, these cops, can think they can do whatever they want without impunity. Like, just imagine of these officers don't have people checking in and they hold people black people, let's just say they hold black people on higher bonds and they supposed to be who's supposed to know that Nobody but journalists are gonna hold people accountable when it comes to police, when it comes to the governor officials.
Speaker 1:That's why Journalism is called like the unofficial fourth branch of the government, because it's the fourth estate. Everyone goes unchecked, if not for journalists, and Journalism is a hot fucking mess right now. But people Like her need to be protected journalists who are actually putting in the work, doing the investigative journalism and giving their communities information, so that you guys can make your own decisions about what you want to do, moving forward as citizens of that area. So, like, everyone should have rallied behind her or her organization, whatever Platform she was using to post on. Like, I think everyone should have rallied against her, and I feel it is very it's highly Concerning, because there are laws that protect journalists specifically. If you're not Publishing anything, that is a lie. That's it.
Speaker 2:You can, you can publish it, and the problem that this really came out of this is that the courts found that the police didn't do anything wrong in their harassment, like they allowed them to be able to do exactly everything she did and there's no Accountability to be had for the, for the authorities and like that's that's the problem. That's, that's really wrong. And I know, eli, must you getting shorted to oblivion right now? I know that they killing you. You didn't have lost a little fifty-five, fifty-five billion dollar payment package. A Eat the rich. But if you care about Free speech, why don't you? Why aren't you helping this purple-haired lady from Texas? I thought you cared about free speech, yep. Or do you just care about Talking about groups that you hate and Make sure people can't talk about you on your, on your platform?
Speaker 2:Because I see that Tesla start going. It's going down to the ground.
Speaker 1:People yell about free speech when they want to spew hate about Other people. This thing.
Speaker 2:You got this thing. I got a gas is little new neural link program, when folks have been doing this kind of neural link stuff for years. Yeah, you're putting it inside of somebody, but let's see if it works, let's see what you can do. We see you desperate, you're real desperate he really is, yeah all right man?
Speaker 2:uh, let's see. Let's give our condolences first for the black soldiers that lost her life in the attack Overseas. You know what everything going on I think that is. It sucks, man, Like anytime I see, like black officers die. But there was one that happened in Atlanta that was in a chase scene.
Speaker 2:And then I see black soldiers. That was three black soldiers. So Sergeant William Jerome Rivers, 46 of Carlton, kennedy, london I don't know what rank that is, but a Kennedy London. Sanders 24 of Waycross and Brianna Mafieta, savannah. They all lost their life in an attack. Looks like it was in Syria. No, it's me attacking Jordan near the Syrian border at one of our bases, and you're not going to see a lot of talk about this because these soldiers don't look like the type of soldiers that you need to promote a story like this. But you know, rp to those people and I just can't. I just hate seeing our people in armed forces or law enforcement. Does those? Those ain't set up for us.
Speaker 2:No those ain't set up for us to win. Granny, you got, you know, people who go up through the ranks, but those systems were developed to keep us back, man, and I just hate that. To see people who I know that are just doing it just to make an honest living have to be associated with a government in a military who's done such atrocities, sucks All right. Last, another thing that happened in Georgia, for County Georgia has been hit with a cyber attack.
Speaker 1:So this happened.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, unexpected outage had down County's phone systems and brought certain online transactions a whole, including these filing of property taxes, fire arm and mayor's license. The county was in a statement posted on a website. Most offices were unavailable for to accept calls and this was according to Bloomberg. So they told us to warn us. They said uh, reward by the cyber attacks leave the world behind the World War three. They, uh, they said what Afghanistan?
Speaker 1:Satellite phones, though for real, like the little we need to invest in one of them. Yeah, just a little kid.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I said, it's a lot of stuff that's been going on. Man, you got to pay attention to this geopolitical field because, man, it's, it's a lot man. Egypt, ethiopia and Iran in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Euroma rights I think I'm a wreck, something I said that wrong. They've all joined bricks, so that's the the Chinese business In regards to you know a lot of the finances overseas. So hey, man, bricks, I know it's about finances, that, but I can become a military group.
Speaker 4:Very quickly and one night things can and one in one conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright, so let's get to some reviews. Do we have anything else to get into before we?
Speaker 1:I mean other than that. The other thing that happened in Georgia that was really interesting is the, the Protesters that changed themselves to that development, because the developer, it is the company that's building Cops city and they've been like a couple, a couple attacks and things on that specific company because of their their support for Cops city. So shout outs to y'all and keep doing that definitely.
Speaker 2:It was also another one that happened in the city as well.
Speaker 2:Where they were, you know, protesting against Cops city again. And, like I said, y'all are the real heroes, like not these officers, folks who are our government officials, the folks who are really out here putting ourselves on the line. Y'all are the real heroes. I commend y'all. I want to make sure that if y'all can support these people, whatever organization that you can donate, please do. These folks deserve it, man. They are putting themselves their freedom on the line for something that they believe in. And I know a lot of us can't do that, because we have people we care about, people that we love, responsibilities. But, man, just a little, at $5 you're gonna use the buy candy bar or Put into, you know, to something else that you know didn't eat it. Man, try to support these organizations because they're they're out there doing the real work and the hard work that is going to benefit Maybe not us, but our children.
Speaker 1:So yeah, just keep thinking it like that donate to the bail funds, because these people be getting arrested For sure.
Speaker 2:For sure All right, so let's get into some movie reviews.
Speaker 1:All right. So we watched some movies and some shows.
Speaker 2:We earned our black card back we did. We want to start with American fiction okay, so you want to.
Speaker 1:You can take lead on American fiction.
Speaker 2:All right. So we went. We watched American fiction. So if y'all not familiar with the gentleman name, I think his name is Jeffrey. I want to make sure I said correctly. If you've seen the Batman he was, Was the name Gordon. Damn, I can't think of lieutenant Gordon. He was in that movie. He was also in Casino Royale. He was the FBI agent.
Speaker 1:Jeffrey.
Speaker 2:Wright, jeffrey Wright, yep, so he's also the watcher, and Marvel so Pretty. You know well to do Actor. So American fiction bases about him. He's a professor, but also an author, mm-hmm, and he's kind of a little bit in a rut career wise.
Speaker 1:He's trying to find his next Project and in the midst of it he has a block. He hasn't written something in like about three years and In the beginning of the movie, his publication, he has to take a leaf.
Speaker 2:Yep. So he takes a leave of absence and he ends up meet up with his family. You find out that Tracy Ellis Ross is his sister and Lisa, his mom, is Going through dementia. Yes, so his mom is Agnes, played by Leslie Uggums so of course this is a black movie, so they could not afford. Tracy Ellis Ross, through the whole thing, dies immediately.
Speaker 1:She dies with them.
Speaker 2:She has a crazy heart attack while they're just at a dinner table talking about what they're planning on doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's stressed she been going through a divorce. She lost everything in her divorce to her, her wife and yes, I said today.
Speaker 2:Did they make it clear that she was a lesbian?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said her yeah, like my wife like the whole time so she. She obviously was in a lesbian relationship. She also had children and she lost everything, including her kids and half of all of her things, to her wife in the divorce. She's not really close to her brother like that, like that, and she's been drinking the pain away.
Speaker 2:So she has her heart attack abruptly and that brings you know Most of the family and you end up learning that they also have another brother.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. He was also married by Sterling K Brown, clifford and Sterling did his thing.
Speaker 2:Man he was, he was actually a very standout character in this.
Speaker 1:I loved him in this. I love Sterling K Brown and everything, though I think he has a really good like mixture of like being able to play very serious, like high brow roles and being like a thespian for real and then just being like being able to just be like a nigga like a hilarious Nigga for real.
Speaker 2:I love him. He's showing like even with that movie he did with Regina King he's show. He has a very good element of humor and how he does his acting.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's amazing. I love him and so he.
Speaker 2:After that you learn that he, he's their gay brother. But he was married to a woman. Okay sorry he was married to a woman at first. They end up getting a divorce and now he is in Arizona Living out his best gay dreams.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So shout out to him and Then it. This is when the movie kind of starts to get into the meat of the movie. He writes he's frustrated with where American fiction is for black authors, and he writes very high brow, very Pristine work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like complicated works were like smart people enjoy His, his work, but like the masses don't enjoy his, don't enjoy his work because it's not like for the masses, it's for people who Enjoyed, like reading, and so in the beginning he sees a Conference going on where he sees Issa Rae character and she's introducing her book and her book is like if Khrushon Rock Could spell. Yeah, gordon, and she's an author also so she reads off her book.
Speaker 2:It's like very baby mama ish. I'm trying to get through the struggle type of conversation.
Speaker 1:It's, it's very like. It's highly what you Macaulay. What's the word I'm looking for? It's like a caricature of blackness.
Speaker 2:It's like a parry had a GD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's. It's not just like. It's like old school, like slave Colloquialism's mixed in with like hood stuff, and it's like I was about to bust the cap in your ass, like it just don't make no sense, so it's. It's like highly parodied.
Speaker 2:It was her book. Yeah, so it's amazing Like that. That's where this whole kind of conversation kind of leads into. So he Frustrated and seeing where the market's going, he just writes some BS because he kind of has to put a book out for his, his manager, to kind of try to pitch and he writes some BS.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he throws every stereotype in there and puts like absolutely zero and Intelligence into it whatsoever so the Manager gets it.
Speaker 2:He tells him it's trash, but he still sends it out Mm-hmm, and, just like you could kind of guess, the white people love it.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, this is a masterpiece. It's like such an important Telling of the black story. It's so raw.
Speaker 2:That's exactly how they were doing it. But an important caveat has to happen in this, in this, in this portion they need him to match the type of person that's in this book. These two men are two, two different, two different people. They're expecting someone from the streets yes, prison, violent, track record and this man is nothing but that. Like I said, college professor.
Speaker 1:So his name is Arthur the lonious the lonies.
Speaker 1:His name is the lonious. He comes from a family of doctors. As a PhD holding our writer, he is the failure of his family because all of them are medical doctors, so like he's like the Ugly duckling of his family as far as education and he doesn't match up. I think it's hilarious. He doesn't match up with with the type of blackness that that his family expects him to be, or the the white people Expect him to be so he pretends to be an individual that spent time in jail and that wrote this book as an inspiration.
Speaker 2:He literally says that he's like on the run yeah he like makes them think that he's literally on the run while he's writing this book. He never really shows his face. Everything they talk about is on on the phone and he gets to a point where he's so frustrated, like why are they funding this? This is Awful piece of work that I've created that he tries to take it to the greater extreme and he names the book fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the book initially is called my pathology, with a, with a F, not the that was his first try being a slang. Yeah, so it was my. I think it is hilarious that he thought that Pathology with the F was gonna be like hood. Enough, like Generally know what the fuck pathology means in the first goddamn place, like yours, your way too educated to even try to To be a caricature of this in the first place, and the white people still fell for it.
Speaker 2:They ate it up.
Speaker 1:That was exactly what it was, exactly what they wanted to see, and they ate it up from like this was such, it wasn't even real raw Hoodness, like it was a caricature of hoodness from a black person who doesn't even know what that is To begin with, because that wasn't his, his life.
Speaker 2:So it was interesting for us, because one of the conversations that we in criticism We've been having in regards to black art is its need To survive having to be followed by having a white audience it won't Be marketed correctly if it if it's, if there's not some type of white, it won't get green light yeah if it's not having a white element to it.
Speaker 2:And that was what the main thing that he was kind of exposing, without Exposing it, like literally all the producers and all of the the folks who were green lighting projects when these folks who were so out of touch and only wanted to see Extreme verges of blackness and we got to understand was, like the idea that people have a blackness it's isn't created by black people.
Speaker 1:No it's because it is curated by white people because, as black people, we know that blackness is entirely more complex Then what we're represented as on the media.
Speaker 2:No, for sure that's what.
Speaker 1:That's why when you, when you get black stories that are told by black people that are on a smaller scale, that are aren't Like super popular, then you do get slightly more nuanced characters. I think American fiction Was one of those was one of those like rare Instances where we got a more nuanced black experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think the the only thing that kind of threw me off was the ending. So the movie ends Kind of abruptly in a way, where you kind of realized that before you get there, I do want to.
Speaker 1:When you were saying that Everything was green lit by the black people, the, the white people, I do want to point out that the only black person who the only person who gave him pushback, was black, the other author. So he was on this board that he got voted on to To vote for like the best book of the year, and his book happened to be on that list and he pushed back against it and then everyone all of the white people on the board voted for it and then him and the other black author were the only ones who were like no, this is not the black experience, this is not an important black story to tell. And these white people felt like the black voices that were put in this group specifically because there was no diversity, like they didn't listen to them at all. They were like no black people. This is an important black story for other black people and this black voice needs to be heard, regardless of how one-dimensional you think it makes black people look, because it's important for black people.
Speaker 1:I think that was so Hilarious no but who are you to tell black people what stories are important for them to hear? But that's what happens in Hollywood on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it also gets kind of tricky in that way, because we're getting stories from black bougie, bourgeois, bourgeoisie people and we're not gonna get the stories from like they're disgusted by the poor black. So, granted, we're not maybe getting the most highly thought-out version of it, but there is a, there's a argument to be had where it's like yeah, just because you say this is what you wanted to be, the image of blackness doesn't mean it's gonna directly reflect what the majority of black people going on, because we we have conversations with black people on time when, once we start talking about the actual finances of black people, they try to act like oh well, those are the black people I'm talking about, so we got it. We got to keep that in mind. I'm not saying that it's a white executive's place to say that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think it should be acknowledged. And I want to ask you what do you think about the acting?
Speaker 2:Well, let's tell them what happened at the ending.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So at the ending it gets. It is abrupt a little bit, but you kind of realize that the whole thing that he was voting on Is you don't really get that is real or not. You kind of get the understanding that this was a movie that he was selling to a producer and and they changed up a few things and he ends up selling the movie rights to the book to a producer. Yes that's just where the movie ends, with him just driving off.
Speaker 1:Where he sells the movie rights. But as long as he gets the right, he gets to write the movie. Yeah. So that's the. That was his only caveat. So at the end, he's with the white producer and the producers. Like we got to add some razzle-a-dazzle at the end. Like this is not a novel, this is a movie. We can't just leave it like open-ended. You can't just do your like artistic thing. People want to be Satisfied, so we got to give them something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they? What was that? I can't remember exactly how he chose the end. It was kind of wow.
Speaker 1:So how he chose they. They did a couple different endings. He does one like where he walks up on the stage when he's accepting his speech yeah, and he's like I. Just he says I have a confession to make, and then it cuts off.
Speaker 1:He does another where the police come he does another where he leaves the thing. Well, the woman his love interest walks in and he leaves with her, or something like that. And then the last one that they they decide is the ending of the movie is he's up there and then, remember, we told y'all guys, we told y'all that His persona was like a fugitive. So the FBI comes up and he's trying to be like wait, no, my name is Thelonious, I'm not a fugitive at all. Like y'all should know this. Like I did nothing, I'm not a criminal law.
Speaker 1:And then he walks out and then he gets shot up and he gets, he gets unjustly killed by the police, like a lot of black men do in that sand of the movie. And then that's the. That is the ending that the white producer likes the most, again, because Hollywood loves black trauma. So that's what they end up with and that's how the movie ends. He gets shot up, which is hilarious that we finally, like I said, got a slightly more nuanced black story, but it still ended up in the black man being black man, being shot and killed by the police, like huh Larius. I love this movie.
Speaker 2:So now, it was a good movie. I'm glad we got to see that. So yeah, it's up there. So if you can't check it out, we had anything to add before we finish up.
Speaker 1:What do you think about the? I say when actor I want to talk about the performances, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wasn't mad at the performances. I think Sterling probably was the best performance out of him. He definitely stole the show.
Speaker 1:Sterling story was very nuanced. He, his father, died before he figured out that he was gay. I love when we tell Black gay men stories that are also a little bit more nuanced. He wasn't like, he was just like a man who happened to be gay also, and he was a Baby gay at like 40 years old, which also I don't think I've seen that experience told through a black man's perspective. And he was going through all of his, his Trying to figure out like who he is and like his parents don't don't accept, and his, his mom, even though she's Going through Alzheimer's and dementia. There's a scene where they're in the nursing home and then she's like I knew you weren't a sissy.
Speaker 2:No, I thought she said a queer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said. Oh yeah, she was like I knew you weren't a queer. They're like dancing, they're having a good time. She just like went through a whole mental break. He finally calmed her down and she's like I knew you weren't a queer, and then he just walks away.
Speaker 2:He just breaks down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's just like he's, just like you could tell. He was just so defeated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had a rough relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think, I think that was pretty much I.
Speaker 1:Just wanted to give a little quick shout out to Myra Taylor, who played Lorraine, and Raymond Anthony who played Maynard. I thought that was just like a really nice little like heartwarming Part of the movie two old black people finding love with each other and getting married really quickly. I just thought that was really heartwarming. I thought that was a good little tidbit to throw into the movie and it made it really nice for me.
Speaker 2:And I like this movie a lot and shout out to Erica Alexander who was a love interest From for a monk.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I will say this I did feel him or line. It was one scene that I it resonated with me when she said that she liked his bad book and she talked about it. I felt that I could. I could feel where it's like yo, I respected what you cared about and what you loved and that's what you this is what you talking about. What you into now is my trash. I I felt I understand where he could feel disrespected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz I specifically thought she wasn't gonna like that. So the next movie that we're gonna get into his book of clearance, correct, okay? So Book of clearance stars Lekief Stanfield. So he's like this like street smart guy who's like down on his luck. He's struggling to find his way for him and his family, his mother specifically. He's trying to like free himself of debt. He's in the in the beginning of the movie. It starts with Like a little street race. So him and his best friend are racing Mary Magdalene, who's played by Tiana Taylor and her beautiful ass, and he loses the street race. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:So and he gets robbed.
Speaker 1:Yes, by some gypsy kids. So he's captivated by the power and the glory of the Messiah Right. So let me move back a little bit. He loses the race. This race was very important because he borrowed money from what's his name, jebediah the terrible yeah so this is like the big bad guy, this is like the guy of the town.
Speaker 2:Jerusalem, apparently, and just to give a little more backstory. So this movie takes place in a Teracle Biblical setting. So this is a satire biblical movie here, and so that's why you're gonna hear things that are similar to you know Jesus, peter, judas, iscariot now you're gonna hear those names that get brought up in this movie because it's essentially like, basically there's a disciple named Thomas. If you read the Bible in in this story, he has a twin brother named Clarence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Clarence has played like a lake. He's sand field and then so it's Thomas. Jesus Apostle is also played by the case Danfield. Jesus Apostle, his Apostle Thomas. Yeah also played by lucky Stanfield, and they live with no look. Keith Clarence lives with his mother, marion jeed Baptiste, and so after this race he's in like a bunch of trouble because Ivan the third the terrible is literally not Ivan the terrible. That is literally not. That's a white man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That just like. Where did that come from?
Speaker 2:a real person's name.
Speaker 1:I know it is, but like that just came out of nowhere. Jebediah the terrible, jedediah the terrible is going to crucify him like that. He's literally gonna crucify him. So he gets baptized in hopes that word will spread that he has he's become a man of God because Clarence does not believe in Jesus shout out today or his miracles, so he hopes that the news of him being a man of God will spread and will stop Jebediah from Crucifying him. Everyone calls his bluff, though, and they're like we know what you're doing, so eventually.
Speaker 2:well, john the Baptist wouldn't give him a baptism, he tried to drown him.
Speaker 1:He literally yeah, he tried to drown him.
Speaker 2:He went to a buddy sister who was his love interest who also happens to be Jedediah the Terribles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he went to buddy sister. Yeah, jedediah, jedediah sister.
Speaker 2:She was no help, she was gonna look out for him. No so then he even went to his brother and he asked to be the 13th disciple.
Speaker 1:And his brother laughed in his face and he was like you're not good enough, You've always been a joke.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they all laughed at him. But they gave him a test. They told him, if he can go free the slaves, that he could. You know, do it. You know he could potentially be an apostle. He went out there.
Speaker 1:Okay, you go ahead.
Speaker 2:No. So he went out there. They, he, uh, he got an opportunity that he couldn't free all the slaves, but he could free one slave, brabis. So if you are a, you know, a knowledgeable person in in theology, you know Brabis was the murderer who was Switched places with Jesus. He was offered Brabis and they said they rather Brabis be free instead of a Jesus. In this story, brabis is, uh, achilles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, technically they, they mixed that up. Where he is now in a mortal, that can only be, uh, you know, hurt by his heel. You know they kind of they. They write that out later on in the in the movie as well, uh, but he said wrong heel, though.
Speaker 1:That's why so okay so, um, quickly on Brabis. Uh, he's freed by Clarence and then they're like mans. So, um, towards the end of the movie, there's a scene where the romans, uh, approach them and he is Stabbed through the heart. Doesn't kill him, because he's immortal. He's stabbed through the heel, but then apparently he was like wrong heel, motherfucker and then he pulls it out. It just keeps running this move. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1:That was funny.
Speaker 2:Uh, so um, well, we got to get into one more part here. So after he, he frees Brabis he wasn't able to free other slaves, but he was able to free Brabis he goes back to the apostles and they decline him being the 13th apostle. So he, what you about to say no, so they, they go into the, the next best scam. He says if the Messiah won't take me, I'm gonna be the Messiah.
Speaker 1:Because he believes. He doesn't believe Jesus is the son of God or there was. He doesn't believe in the immaculate, like exception conception or anything of that nature. He just thinks that, like the Messiah is a trickster and he's been like pulling tricks on people and the disciples are just like all in on it, and that he's doing this for financial gain and notoriety.
Speaker 2:So they go all up and down the west bank Uh, basically fools and everybody having them giving them money. Acting like he's Bringing people back from the dead Uh, acting like he's uh, cure and blindness. Yeah, all of this crippled Ness and all that, so he starts to get the attention of the roman empire and they not trying to fly with this Messiah shit.
Speaker 1:So the roman empire had already had, uh, they had already had the attention of the roman empire because of the original Messiah. But then now, uh, the roman empire stepped in because they were like there are multiple messiahs, and now these messiahs are spreading gospel that our men are created equally. And we cannot have that because y'all are black and we doubt, we don't think y'all are created equally.
Speaker 2:So the romans were a place of the white Supremes system that was going on, and the yeah jewish people at the time were Reflection of the black people who you know living in america. Now that was kind of like the correlation between it was just a representation of Of white supremacy. So in the, in the midst of the heat, going on with jebediah everybody's kind of that ending conflict happening. Uh, clarence gets arrested, he gets brought in and at the same token, you also kind of get the the last supper View as well.
Speaker 1:You kind of get that which Was one of my favorite scenes. I think one of my favorite things about this movie was like how it was shot. I think cinematically it was very aesthetically pleasing. That was one of my favorite scenes. And then one of this the scene where clarence decides To start doing all of the blasphemy, acting like he's the messiah. Um, he's at like a roadside hookah shop and then everyone who gets high is like floating in the air and it's so cool and it looks like some bootsy colons Produced shit. I love it so much.
Speaker 2:It's very quirky um, so in in his trial, they actually have ean McGregor. Uh, he's the I think he's supposed to be potch's pilot and he goes in to try to Prove that this man isn't a messiah. So they have this little trick where they open up the gate and they're supposed to like this pool of water and he says to him if you Can cross this pool of water, you're the messiah, I'll let you go. So if you fall, you'll just drown and we'll put the lid back on top of you. So clarence is shitting a brick.
Speaker 1:So right before this, there's a little trial and he's like I'm not the messiah, I'm not the messiah. And then the whole crowd is like liar, liar. The whole crowd is like you're the messiah, you're just trying to save your ass. Right now you are the messiah. So the romans are like you're the messiah, you're just lying to us, even though clarence is telling the truth. He was like this is a scam, so they make him do that.
Speaker 2:He walks over the water and he, the entire time is Perplexed. He doesn't know how he's doing it, the sky.
Speaker 1:So right before he walks on the water, he looks up and then the sky opens up and it's like majestic, majestic, heavenly rays of sun coming down and then he's able to walk on the water.
Speaker 2:He doesn't understand it. Everybody's freaking out. They even had like the roman soldiers trying to jump at them.
Speaker 1:They all fall in the water.
Speaker 2:They're drowning and he and my greggers says I wish you would have fell in the water because I wouldn't kill you, but now I have to. Yeah and then they commence the crucifixion.
Speaker 1:So they, they throw him in jail and His twin brother comes to the jail cell to visit him. And this is when clarence, finally, is like I believe in god, like I, his, his, his brother is like Do you believe? And clarence is like I don't believe, I know, like this is it for me. So I think, um, the, the entire movie was his redemption, him coming into his power. And then he didn't come into his full power until he opened himself up to believing in god.
Speaker 2:I don't literally, I don't even think it was that, though I don't think it's the redemption and that I think the redemption came when he said he was solid on jesus when they.
Speaker 1:So yeah. So when? When he believed that the messiah was somebody worth saving?
Speaker 2:No, it's not that he was not. He was saying he even told potches. He said I don't believe he's the messiah and even if I did, I still wouldn't put you out, because that's my main, it's like he's part of us and that was the main thing. He was like I'm I'm not doing it because he is a one of my people.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he was just being a stand-up nigga yeah he's.
Speaker 2:I don't even get a part where he said he believed he was the messiah. He was just saying I'm not throwing away jesus because that's he's one of my people?
Speaker 1:Well, no, after the walking on water thing, he changed his tune completely and he was a believer of everything.
Speaker 2:I mean, if the last sentence that he told potches was I don't have to believe in him, he's. He's one of my people, I'm not.
Speaker 1:He said I don't believe I know.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean that's. I don't believe I know, is I don't, I know like he said that he has.
Speaker 1:His whole thing was that he didn't have proof and and his experiences is what gave him the proof that he needed to believe. I mean one thing in the end he was 1000 percent a believer in god and the messiah. How did you not get that from that? It's because you're an atheist. When his brother came to his cell, he was like are you a believer now? And he was like yes, I don't. But yes, because I don't believe now, I know.
Speaker 2:That to me, I, I didn't get it from that because one Jesus, wasn't even around to show, that's who did the the walk on water. And secondly, that miracle fucked you, so why would you feel like that helped you?
Speaker 1:let me um. So then, moving on from that, to further prove my point that he did believe that Jesus was the messiah. After he gets crucified and dies, jesus opens his Cave, brings him back to life, he gets up. The first thing he says is my lord To jesus. I mean yeah what it? Comes out. He's like my lord because he believes now. But yeah, you died and came back. That that's not. Oh my god, how are you trying to argue?
Speaker 1:I'm not arguing after all of these things he does now believe, because that's not belief anymore.
Speaker 2:If I show, if I show you that I have it, if I show you, okay, like this, if I tell you I got a gold Rock because listen, listen, listen, listen. If I got, yeah, if I got a gold rock in my pocket and I'll tell you to believe I got a gold rock in my pocket and I show you I got the gold rock, you have to believe it anymore.
Speaker 1:We, he wasn't even about to believe he was shown we skipped over. One of my favorite parts of the movie is, while clarence was, uh, captured by the romans, there's this. There's this homeless dude that's just like been walking around in jesus the whole time and actual jesus blesses him and makes like gold start coming out of his palms, shekels, shekels, gold, whatever um start coming out of his palms. He goes, gets cleaned up. He looks like your traditional White depiction of jesus white man, long hair robe. He's walking around doing miracles giving people money.
Speaker 2:It's a benedict cummerbatch. Yeah, dr Strange.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, he is also one of the, the jesus's, the messiahs, that gets crucified along with the other jesus, and there is another, jesus doesn't get crucified with we never, we never see the jesus, the black jesus. Well, the actual jesus never gets crucified, but with um clarence and a couple other people. Um, they, it's. I think it's like four people who get crucified at the same time. It's more than that.
Speaker 2:It's more. What they do is they have. What they do is they take the white jesus and they recreate the traditional uh, white jesus dying on a cross imagery, where you have White jesus in the middle and two people next to Uh, but if you look at it, there's like probably like nine people getting crucified at that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so in the in the crowd there is Um. I don't think it was a roman, I think it was like somebody, a citizen of the jerusalem city. That was um painting the crucifixion that was st John.
Speaker 1:And he, he only painted the white jesus getting crucified, which is hilarious, because then they just took that around with it, which is why I think they put that in there. Um, yeah, so I think we we jumped around a lot back and forth because we we missed a couple things, but that's. That's the, the book of clarence. It ends with Clarence being crucified and then being um resurrected by actual jesus.
Speaker 2:He sits up, he's like my lord, after being shown, because that's what he said too he needed to be shown.
Speaker 1:He said that was brother. Earlier he said he was shown so um.
Speaker 2:I will say this all y'all who has something to say about uh little nars x and didn't say anything about this movie, uh, y'all suck and y'all lame as hell, because this was basically the same thing, the exact same premise in movie. Exact same thing. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Speaker 1:Are you sure?
Speaker 2:All right, man, I think we can leave it up here, all right. I want to thank everybody for listening and giving us your time. This is talk f and f tv. I want y'all to like, follow, comment and subscribe. You know also one shot or no. Hold on, let me pull this up here. Still working on the on the outro. So life is a labor of love, so keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, and the only thing you should be able to exploit Is these corporations. Thank y'all again. We'll be back next week, we out of here.