From Elon Musk's verbal joust with Don Lemon to our piercing look into the pressures of childhood stardom, no stone is left unturned. We're dissecting the layered saga of the Dan Schneider era at Nickelodeon, separating myth from disturbing truth, and peeling back the curtain on the adult humor that permeated our favorite childhood shows.
Amidst the glitter of pop culture, some narratives emerge with a darker sheen, and we're not afraid to explore those depths. As we wade into the mire of the entertainment industry's systemic issues, witness our take on the troubling behavior of showrunners and the shocking realities behind the camera that often go unnoticed. The conversation turns to Amanda Bynes' and Drake Bell's journey and the unsavory aspects of industry politics, ensuring no part of the childhood stardom spectrum is ignored. We also dive into the realm of celebrity and accountability, where the personal becomes public, and the lines of respect blur across both realms.
Wrapping up with a pop culture palate cleanse, we vibrate with excitement over the return of "X-Men '97" and raise eyebrows at Beyoncé's artistry, pondering the politics behind the visuals. As we navigate the vicissitudes of reality TV with Ray J's newest venture, we juxtapose the sparkle of the spotlight with the authenticity of real life, urging you to consider the ethics behind your bling. And to keep things spicy, we spill some tea on the latest celebrity gossip and relationship dynamics, because who can resist a good dose of speculation wrapped with a bow of personal anecdotes? Strap in for this rollercoaster ride of humor, honesty, and a touch of reality check.
From Elon Musk's verbal joust with Don Lemon to our piercing look into the pressures of childhood stardom, no stone is left unturned. We're dissecting the layered saga of the Dan Schneider era at Nickelodeon, separating myth from disturbing truth, and peeling back the curtain on the adult humor that permeated our favorite childhood shows.
Amidst the glitter of pop culture, some narratives emerge with a darker sheen, and we're not afraid to explore those depths. As we wade into the mire of the entertainment industry's systemic issues, witness our take on the troubling behavior of showrunners and the shocking realities behind the camera that often go unnoticed. The conversation turns to Amanda Bynes' and Drake Bell's journey and the unsavory aspects of industry politics, ensuring no part of the childhood stardom spectrum is ignored. We also dive into the realm of celebrity and accountability, where the personal becomes public, and the lines of respect blur across both realms.
Wrapping up with a pop culture palate cleanse, we vibrate with excitement over the return of "X-Men '97" and raise eyebrows at Beyoncé's artistry, pondering the politics behind the visuals. As we navigate the vicissitudes of reality TV with Ray J's newest venture, we juxtapose the sparkle of the spotlight with the authenticity of real life, urging you to consider the ethics behind your bling. And to keep things spicy, we spill some tea on the latest celebrity gossip and relationship dynamics, because who can resist a good dose of speculation wrapped with a bow of personal anecdotes? Strap in for this rollercoaster ride of humor, honesty, and a touch of reality check.
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Speaker 2:That's it. That was a loud clap right there.
Speaker 1:It was Big ass hand Amen.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm able to do. Ha ha, ha ha. All right, man, let's. Uh, we're back at it, man. We ready, you ready to go. Yeah. You live. Are you in full effect? Do I have to turn this mug up? Turn this mug up. Turn this mug up. Turn this mug up. Turn this mug up.
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Speaker 1:I'm not too good at being, but I'm not too good at being.
Speaker 2:What you are my nature, letting go, no, holding back, no, you don't know what the buttons are doing. I'm not too good at being, but I'm not too good at being. You try to shake me. You want the flow of me crazy. Now Look at us, lately, until I'm losing.
Speaker 1:Lady, I never thought you'd be the one which I'm brighter than the sun. There ain't no off-sins owls, no winnin' owls. You're here right now. You want me to stay. I'll never leave If you want me to stay. That's enough of that. Those girls could not sing.
Speaker 2:They was trying to bring the vibe. They was the first girls to curate the vibe. I'm not mad at it. They did what they had to do. You're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host rhetoric and I'm, with my lovely and amazing and Green for St Patrick's Day that just passed Co-host Not for that. No, you definitely wore that. You wore the pink for me and girls. You wore the green for St Patty's Day, don't?
Speaker 1:act like I'm on front. That is a Caucasian holiday.
Speaker 2:That movie was too.
Speaker 1:I'm always going to remind you. There was two black movies. That's a girly movie. There was two black movies in the theaters. I also had no idea it was a musical. You chose your gender over your race. That is the one time I did that.
Speaker 2:Alright, man, so we back at it. It's been a week, hasn't been a slow week or an interesting week? I feel like there's been a lot of subtle things, a lot of seas that's been planted, but it hasn't been anything explosive this week.
Speaker 1:Definitely not explosive, but there's been interesting things going on.
Speaker 2:I think we got some stuff to explore here, but first we got to definitely get into this Don Lemon interview. Did you see it?
Speaker 1:No, but you watched it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I watched the entire thing. I kept seeing all these clips going around, elon Musk and Don Lemon talking oh, look at Elon, he owned Don in this one. Don didn't know what to do. He was all down with the agenda. What are y'all talking about? There was only one time that I saw where he kind of bested him, but the whole time I'm watching him. I just want to give an overview of him as an individual Before I go into some of the talking points.
Speaker 2:They had, he's just not an impressive individual when it comes to being audible. It's just not anything. Some people you listen to and you can get that. Oh you, the dude that's really inside doing the nerdy shit, and I don't get that from him, not in the least bit.
Speaker 1:He's always giving me closure, but he has money, so he knows more than he actually does.
Speaker 2:It's like a fake attempt to be Lex Luthor being Tony Stark, but failing at both all the way through.
Speaker 1:That is a great example.
Speaker 2:It's just so like and then it's like I'm big on like he stutters, so it's like. That's like not good leadership. In my opinion, it just doesn't come off like somebody who you can trust moving forward.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm able is, but okay, I mean okay, that's fair. He just came at everybody with a stutter and was like you can't lead. I mean it just.
Speaker 2:When it's this guy, he was like come on, don, get him, just get him, take him out, let him go take a break. He needed a glass of water the whole time.
Speaker 1:So what were they talking? About in the interview. What were they discussing?
Speaker 2:They were just kind of it was a general synopsis of him. They talked a little bit about some of the things that he said Advertisers and Some of the stance he was taking. They went in with the great migration conversation that he had tweeted out, where he was talking about this shit was funny, you know, the replacement of people from other countries, quote-unquote, illegal immigrants Coming into the country to replace white people. He's kind of talked about that. He also he kind of like acted like he didn't know much about it. He also tried to say things like about diversity, like the DEI, the diversity, inclusion, whatever shit. He talked about.
Speaker 2:His criticisms in regards to that. He kept referring to the requirements to be like a doctor being taken away or like being diminished so more people can be doctors. That's what he was trying to imply Like, oh, we're making the standards and the qualifications to be doctors Easier and that could cause people to lose lives. But then he asked him well, which way are you referencing that? Which way do you think that is? It's happening? People on Twitter will come in and they'll show you all the resources. Everybody on X will come in on this post and it's like bro, what are you talking about, but then scoff when he said study show, when Don would say study show X, y and Z about this. It's like so you won't believe.
Speaker 1:He doesn't reference studies, but he references.
Speaker 2:Oh, the people on Twitter are going to show you which will come from more like the other studies.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:So the one part that he did get the best of Don was when he was talking about censorship, because I think, don, you handled this so horribly. I don't think you were really prepared to have that conversation about the censorship. It seemed like it was just a pass or note that you just wanted to go off, even though he did have. He pulled tweets up and stuff. The problem was this he talked about the. It was like an anti-Jewish tweet that had been up for a while and hadn't been taken down and he said it fell in line of all the what was required for it to be removed.
Speaker 2:It was hate speech and all that other stuff. And he asked Don, was it illegal? He said no, it's not illegal. But you know why would you want to have that on your platform, yada, yada. And what he should have talked about was you're right, it's not illegal, but it's uncomfortable and we need to ask this question. I don't know a lot of people out there who have daughters or not, but if your daughters do like cheerleading gymnastics and that stuff gets posted on YouTube, you should probably go check those comments, because those men aren't necessarily saying things that are illegal, but they are definitely saying things that would be troubling to see in here. You know what I mean. So there's ways to get out.
Speaker 2:So it was like if I was Don, I would have asked him a question like that. I was like, okay, I understand you're saying about illegal, but how would you handle a situation if a mother posted her picture on? A mother posted her daughter's picture on X and there was grown men saying she was hot or cute or saying things that were not appropriate for a child, but it's not illegal. Would you remove that? So now you kind of go into that hole where they say everybody's a pedophile type of conversation. Now you kind of make him have to pick a side and really stand up, because he was trying to. Instead of talking about where Elon has said like oh, this X, y, z. He kept trying to make him be inconsistent, saying you're not really the conservative person that you claim to be on X, you're just doing that to be a personality. And he was really trying to pull his car like that and that's what I mean. It worked for the most part for me, except on that censorship conversation.
Speaker 2:Like everything else, he sounded like a bumbling idiot and fool. He got really mad when Don asked him about the company falling. So he was like you said, you know the advertisers want to destroy the company. They can, but if the buck stops with you, wouldn't that mean you know? Basically you destroyed the company. And oh, that man was. He looked like a white Mr Potato Head, like no cap. He was really like by the term purple, that's how red he was about to. He was just about to turn a whole shade of purple.
Speaker 1:Because Twitter has not made turn to profit since Elon took over. Right Like they're still not doing well.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I don't know if they were actually getting a real high profit beforehand. I know they were. Advertising was a lot of where the revenue was coming from before he got there. Now that he didn't did the X subscription and stuff like that, he was trying to say that's increased. And you know he was just doing a whole bunch of Meandering for lack of a better word around what was actually going on and the fact that you know some of his bigger advertisers still haven't returned back to the platform yet. But he tries to be this proponent of free speech and he even tells Don like oh, at the beginning of interview oh, you can ask me anything, I'm cool with anything. And then when he asked him about his drug use of ketamine, he goes oh, that's kind of personal, but question to ask someone, like it's just so it was so much inconsistent yeah just so much inconsistency.
Speaker 3:Ketamine, yeah, that's what he said he was using for his depression.
Speaker 2:And then he lied too when he said, oh my goodness, this guy's, he's just so easy to just read. This guy says he has a prescription, but then he says he doesn't have a certain amount or amount that he has to take either daily. We like there's no repetition with it. So now either what you're saying is your doctor's a dumbass or somebody's just writing you a prescription for a drug that you don't really need.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because usually prescriptions come with directions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he asked him the directions of it and he basically was like oh, I don't do it all the time. Do you think I can make the decisions I make if I was always messed up? And he's like come on, dude, you look crazy already Anytime. We see you out here in the streets, so that's nothing like anytime anybody's seeing you. You're not an appealing looking individual.
Speaker 1:No, he looks dead behind the eyes.
Speaker 2:He looks like he just crawls in, like he looks like the emperor off a dune, like he just crawls into his little dark pot of just disgustingness. Yeah, and just bathes and filth for a day.
Speaker 1:He's like a caricature of, like an evil rich guy.
Speaker 2:He just plays it so bad and it's like I mean I get it. You don't want to be like Mark Zuckerberg and all them guys, because they're kind of like they're all like bought in with the government anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg is scary. He kind of reminds me of a worm.
Speaker 2:You remember? They wanted to fight. He wanted to fight Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 1:They were supposed to like box for charity or something right.
Speaker 2:I think it was like kickboxing or something they were supposed to do. That was going to be absolutely ridiculous, mark would have kicked your ass, elon, he would have whooped your ass. I'm trying to think what else was the another part of the interview. I think that was really the most kind of the pull out of it. You think Mark would have won? Yeah, Mark would have whooped his ass. No lie, it would have been Mark Trains I feel like Elon is a well.
Speaker 1:Elon probably got muscles that do nothing, if he does have muscles.
Speaker 2:Elon is the type of dude who will buy three or four fighters time to just hang out and look cool with, and Mark is the nigga who will find a trainer and buy you for two years and now we train and every day do a mixed martial arts. Like Mark Zuckerberg is one of those kind of guys. I wouldn't want to catch Mark Zuckerberg in the street one on one, like maybe when he first came, when he first was out there, he was a little twibby dude.
Speaker 2:I just feel like his body can be due, but so much he got some muscle on. I think he wasn't with it. But overall I'm not impressed with Elon. I think I went on record before where I said I was. I thought he was actually this real genius individual. Then I heard him talk long form. He's also been against unions in the past, so he's already become op number one. When you do that, I hope Tesla keeps shorting. I want a short Tesla. I hope it can stop falls to oblivion. I don't have anything nice else to say.
Speaker 1:He's been giving out those cyber trucks or I don't know. I've been seeing them all over social media. People have been getting them.
Speaker 2:Then his race. That was the part I wanted to talk about His take on race. He did a Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 1:What does that mean?
Speaker 2:You never heard Morgan Freeman's comment on race, on what we need to do.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Just stop talking about it.
Speaker 1:What isthat's not. That is not the answer, hey you're asking God.
Speaker 2:Morgan Freeman, that was the answer. Just stop talking about it, because that's what gets anything fixed. Like the question I just Just bury it deep and the thing I wish Don would have said but I know, don, you may be a brother, but you're tied up with those Caucasians, you're tied up tight. Just ask him why do we have to stop talking about it when we can just resolve it? Why is that never an option?
Speaker 1:Let's just resolve the issue of race because it's way more complicated to resolve it than to stop talking about it because we have to start talking about it to resolve it.
Speaker 2:Wake it up. Wake it up. That's what I'm just saying, it's just. That's where it's just clear for me, where it's like that when we come to that kind of conversation, nobody wants to really ask that question because, again, it's just, it's not. But overall I would. I would say Elon, it looked like a racist Narcissist the entire time well, that's exactly what he is, I feel like. If that's what he seemed like, anyway, but you were white, raised in Africa.
Speaker 1:Then you go have some type of superiority complex especially with what his family did and he tried to say like he grew up in a hard life. No, you didn't, Literally did not. That's crazy. I mean, emerald farms are hard.
Speaker 2:Oh, emerald farms are hard. At least he wasn't a Nickelodeon kid, that could have been. Could have been different.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:No, introduce it my love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so recently there was a two night Documentary series that came out on max, quite on set, which detailed what goes on behind the scenes in like child stars careers, specifically Nickelodeon With in the like Dan Schneider era.
Speaker 2:So Well, before we get into, I want to know a little bit about what. Had you had known about Dan Schneider Before this guy? I think that's important to how we felt after we watched this.
Speaker 1:So prior to this, I thought Dan Schneider was like this disgusting monster that was literally Assaying people, like that's what I thought. I thought he was putting his hands on children and Getting away with it. But we watched this, this documentary series, and that wasn't the case. He didn't Allegedly from what we know now, he didn't actually assay anybody. He didn't molest anybody. He was just a Creepy, horrible boss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean so my experience of this whole. A lot of people don't know that this kind of started and stemmed from, like YouTube Conspiracies mm-hmm like this was actually a big Part of it. I think this, when I remember it happened, it's probably around like 2013 or 14. This is around the time. Jeanette McCurdy, I think that's her name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from.
Speaker 2:I carly Mm-hmm. That's when she was dating Andre drumming, who was a basketball player. He still plays right now. He's a center Seven foot guy, so it was always an awkward pairing with him. She was, he's seven foot and she's this little small white girl, mm-hmm. And I remember Like a little bit after that it kind of started coming from like a lot of right wing conspiracy theories. I usually put y'all in the guys who always like every blame everything on the devil, like y'all say everything's the devil and all that stuff. They started talking about the Nickelodeon's Kind of like sets and stuff and like what was going on and like I like you, I thought that there was like a lot of but you know physical violence on his behalf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the way that they told it like a lot of things that they would try to make it seem like that he was going on, was he was Orchestrating a lot of these things, and even they talked about some of the humor and the jokes about it as well, and where that can kind of be inappropriate, but they tried to make him seem like he was the ringleader of everything Nickelodeon yeah, he controlled what was going on and how everything was produced, and they also made it seem like he was someone who was allowing pedophiles to, you know, roam the sets and be able to have this environment. They made him seem like he was the kingpin, unchecked, unchecked.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we get into. You know actually what you know quiet on set was and you know they, and in the day that the portrayal of him before this was, he was the Harvey Weinstein for children.
Speaker 1:That's what I have literally yeah, I thought this was gonna be on par with that.
Speaker 2:But it comes up to where, you know I talked about a little bit his, his early life Father went to Harvard. He was pretty much viewed like an underachiever. He also lied. They say he lied about going to Harvard as well, like in a newspaper that he told. But he ended up finding, you know, footing in that head of the class show and then that's kind of where everything took off. You know, he was able to get to Nickelodeon, started doing all that and he really kind of shaped face in a way, like said, the way they presented it was that he was this guy that Was the king of Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1:He was discovering talent. That was really amazing for no Nickelodeon that made them Better competition for like Disney and stuff.
Speaker 2:And one of the weird things that I saw when who was watching the first part, I'm like, why ice cube and Nickelodeon? And I really like, and I went back and actually thought about that when I was a kid. I'm like, why was ice cube at Nickelodeon? The gangster rapper ice cube?
Speaker 1:There were a lot of rappers at Nickelodeon back then and I thought about this a while ago and this was a discussion that came up, but Nickelodeon used to be so much blacker.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 1:Nickelodeon used to be mad black.
Speaker 2:But if you remember, that's what they talked about. Where he was praised for the entire time was that he put black kids women on television, like he put them at young age on television in front of everybody, and gave them opportunities to shine.
Speaker 1:That's because that's crazy, because the black kids and the women were the ones that, specifically, were having the worst Experiences well the scenes.
Speaker 2:As far as actors were they? I believe there was a redhead boy- Okay, that got the redheaded stepchild treatment.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about him soon. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I think some of the jokes were kind of crazy. So let's kind of get into some of the jokes that were a little over the line.
Speaker 1:Let me say this first it's very normal for Producers or like writers to like throw an adult joke into, like oh for sure a kid show, a kid's movie for the parents, just something like that. The kid wouldn't notice that's not super inappropriate, but the parent could be like, haha, because they're gonna be bored.
Speaker 2:Rugrats, was, was was full of those. Spongebob was full of those too. You remember on the little mermaid, the cartoon version, there was like pictures that look like dildos in the back of the.
Speaker 1:So there's always like little hints of that. I think, dan Schneider, though there was a lot of stuff that he did and you can get into that right now, so like one.
Speaker 2:So one of the One of the first ones that they kind of highlighted was the nose boy skit. So first off they worried about the nose looking like dicks. Y'all put a big nose on a black boy.
Speaker 1:That was my thing. I was like when they said that he put they put two noses on my shoulder. I was like, oh, to make fun of your blackness. And he was like, and they look like dicks. I was like that's not, that's all the nose on you.
Speaker 2:I saw the prosthetic nose and I'm thinking, oh, these these things, by late, yeah, yeah, I called so you can't do it. They wouldn't have did that, to know Jewish boy, they wouldn't have caught him. No, nose boy, no. But y'all went out there and the inflamed the flame. His name, defamed his name.
Speaker 1:Who was that big black noses on your shoulder?
Speaker 2:Like, but they did look like once they pointed that out. Yeah, I was like those are dicks yeah they'll definitely look like those were of the male variety on this, but then they even showed. The whole climax to the joke was Him sneezing on shawty, and it was supposed to be like a money shot.
Speaker 1:There were a lot of money shot jokes like Dan Schneider is sick for that. But it was so much come shot stuff and then not even just the stuff that they showed us in the documentary. We then go on social media and then there's like scene after scene after scene of just like money shot jokes in a kids show.
Speaker 2:But you got to remember to slime was always part of Nickelodeon, even before he got there. So the whole Putting you know something on your face or something like that dripping on you, like that was inherent to the channel.
Speaker 1:But he did it differently because there were dick jokes followed by yeah, one where they were shooting water into I carly's mouth. Yeah, and she was on her knees. On her knees, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like. So it was a lot of wild, wild jokes. They had the one other one where they had the little boy. He was in peanut butter because they had him doing like a little fear factor.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, I don't remember what that black man's name is, but he was definitely going through it.
Speaker 2:Oh no, he was the most traumatized. Yeah, he was the one, we'll get it. We get it to him a little bit, no right? Well, he was, he was real deal traumatized. He was when he say with therapy and everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's still. He's still currently in therapy Did you believe his mama?
Speaker 2:Let's, let's wake that up. Did you believe his mama?
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:She said that she was the one being more vocal and all that other stuff about what was going on.
Speaker 1:I do, because he was only on there for one season.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a lot of kids that got dropped.
Speaker 1:That wasn't you, said he got dropped because he was ass. Yeah, he was not good to me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, that was offensive. I watched you when I was a kid. I thought you were the way. I hated him on the show Like he was the worst. Why hated it and put the hat on you like a lot of stuff I hated was probably wasn't even your choice. I hated the way they painted you Like you reminded me of a kid that I really didn't like when I was growing up too, so it's like get this nigga out of here, like once when they replaced you with Nick when Nick can it.
Speaker 2:Like that was my kind of Dude. I was like, okay, I can. I can relate to this corny Negro. You are too far, corny. Like it was like a parody. He was, his character was like a parody up there. They probably did that on purpose, so it probably no fault but they covered him in peanut butter and had a dog lick him.
Speaker 1:He was very uncomfortable with that. He said I don't like this on this, on the sketch, like in the skit.
Speaker 2:Then what else? They say he, uh, he was selling. They made him sell Girl Scout cookies like they was drugs.
Speaker 1:Yeah black boy, being a drug dealer was a Choice, and then his mom said that she spoke out against that.
Speaker 2:I just don't. I'm sorry, I don't believe that. I believe that was cat.
Speaker 1:I don't think his mom spoke out at all well, she did say I think they both said that he didn't trust her anymore.
Speaker 2:Because, of?
Speaker 1:yeah, because of how much she did speak out and their relationship Was affected by it. So, because of the fact that he was only on there for one season and because of the fact that their Relationship was strained, I think she did speak out. She might be capping about how much she spoke out. I don't know why you think that she's lying about that, but I think she probably did say something.
Speaker 2:Okay, so they also had him remember, do the fetus rapper too? Well, yeah he basically was like in a brown whole suit and he was like a baby fetus.
Speaker 1:He was in a, in a flesh. He was like Brenda's baby and he said that he was in a lot of In a lot of, like leotard. No, that was the other dude. The first black boy, okay, was the one who planned that was nose boy.
Speaker 2:Okay the other black boy was the one who did the other the drug deal and all that other stuff. Okay so no, that was that he also had the worms that he didn't like. But now he said he was. He said he was he was on curtain. But you know what's funny? I feel like if I was like one of them little child stars the way the mama was acting, my mama would have really been like that. So I have a little story.
Speaker 1:I was about to say don't you have a child star story? I have a little story.
Speaker 2:So when I was younger I was in a pageant. You know I'm saying awesome player on some player stuff.
Speaker 1:That's really crazy, like I've never come across a man that did pageant.
Speaker 2:I was that new yo yo? You need to understand that. So I did a pageant and I Remember I was really upset because they was announcing the winners and I felt like I wasn't gonna win. I even started tearing up a little bit in the crowd with my mama. I felt like a letter down, like my ugly kid.
Speaker 2:Like you, you had me a 40 years old and I'm a ugly kid. That's a waste of a 40-year-old pregnancy. Oh, that's the waste of a high-risk pregnancy. That's what I was thinking as a child. So third place comes up and guess whose name you young rhetoric. I'll run up there. It wasn't like I was crying anymore. I was ran up there so fast to grab my trophy. Oh, I thought I was him. I was everybody. I'm waving at everybody. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I'm him, I'm probably like you, deca, I'm like four or five years old, like I'm young, I can barely read, and so, you know, we leave, we go out, and I just remember somebody stopping my mom and few years later she, she told me about what happened and she said it was a recruiter. And she said it was a recruiter for Nickelodeon. Oh and this recruiter was specifically under Dan Schneider and she said so. They said they wanted me to do commercials and hopefully potentially that might land me Acting roles.
Speaker 2:Yeah stuff like that. So then they showed her a picture of who he worked for and my mom took one look at Dan Schneider and said we don't work with fat white honky. So I'm sorry, and that was it. That was my last day in the business Protecting my, my bow.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that not trusting fat white people.
Speaker 2:That was what was needed saved your bow. Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you, you know, I'm saying so I just cuz I, the way I was looking at some of these kids, I understood, man, like I would have been impressionable. They would have, they would have, they would have me a new one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz the way what's, let's get into. What's his name?
Speaker 2:So Drake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and his his. And we need to talk about a man of Binds. Okay, let's talk about a man of Binds.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I just want to say like if I was, I, just if I was one of those kids, I know how impressionable I would have been. I'd have been doing whatever they asked me to do. It wouldn't have been no problem. They would ask me jump, how hot I'm in. Jump, I said how high I had been ready. My mama knew I was too impressionable. Where we need to go? This dark, this dark room? Okay, this is where my scenes Seeing my G, like oh, you know, there's something underneath the couch, you need to go grab I.
Speaker 1:Sorry, the way that I would hypothetically assay somebody my bad, no tack no like no little player at all with it.
Speaker 2:But I think before you go into the Drake Bell situation you just be ready to jump into the nastiness. I think we should first touch on Amanda Bice, because that was almost a whole episode. I Didn't realize how talented she was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was killing it.
Speaker 2:I don't. I didn't think that even in real time, when I just remember watching her and the fact that she did have her own show, it didn't seem out of the norm for me. No like it seemed like she was somebody who it just seemed to flow with, like her humor wasn't super girly yeah it was. It was, she was funny. Yeah, she was like girl.
Speaker 1:Jim Carrey. Yeah, like a little child, child, jim Carrey.
Speaker 2:And she just was able to control a room so easy. Like I just remember some of her ash Ashley, that's me like she used to be killing that shit.
Speaker 1:She had, like so many iconic characters on Amanda show, like bring out the dance and lobsters is one of my favorite. Amanda please, amanda please.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize Penelope Tain, like that. I felt so dumb watching this because I thought I was a smart kid, but they was just pulling out Penelope Tain. I was like I didn't even realize that I. Didn't even realize what they were trying to address there.
Speaker 1:No, that's. That's really weird that you decided to name her, that it was so crazy.
Speaker 2:I just was like how did I not figure that out? What is?
Speaker 1:wrong with me? Well, to be fair, like I Didn't, I always look at myself.
Speaker 2:I always looked at myself as a knowledgeable child, though, so like, like I should Paint is. I had white friends. I should have known that. I knew what it ain't was. I just didn't put that together. No, I just thought it was a stupid name to call it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know what that was until like probably high school, like in tailing the high school.
Speaker 2:So how this kind of works with Dan was Dan kind of was like worked hand in hand with Amanda, like they even show like there was some little uncomfortable Looking videos they had to them to yeah, them Physically close, they were very yeah, like that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2:They were very physically close, they were very affectionate to one another. The scene, like they state, they pointed out, the one we had. He was in a hot tub with her and he basically implied I created this whole scene to happen because I am who I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which didn't help for the, the narrative that that only reinforced it, and he was fully clothed. So it just I mean glad he didn't have a shirt off, I mean, but it just it was just so crazy just to see, because he even tried to kind of piggyback with her when they talked about she was on the show. What I like about you, I Did not realize she was 16 on that show.
Speaker 1:I thought, I genuinely thought she was like in her early 20s in that show, but it's it's really crazy that she was 16 and it was on for a while too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was the sister like she was like the fast sister on the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was, which made it a younger sister that moved in and she was like irresponsible and stuff. I think the older sister's name was like Val, I'm not even sure, but I watched that show all the time. I did too when.
Speaker 2:I was younger because I, again I was. I grew up around man about only a couple years older than me, like she's probably like a year or two older me. So as she progressed it made sense that me watch her and she program and it was like she grew up in to be a ugly girl. She grew up to be a fairly attractive girl yeah, she ugly now though.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean the drugs hit her hard, but um crazy and even talked about her emancipation, that that failed and that Dan was somebody who helped. We're trying to get her emancipated, of course.
Speaker 1:Because that was his cash cow. It wasn't cash cow.
Speaker 2:But and once that failed, that's how he got back to Nickelodeon and that's kind of where they tried to make it seem like he doubled down on a lot of things. So one thing we didn't address on Amanda Bond show was there was two female writers who had an absolutely horrible experience with him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. They had to split a salary when they got hired, so they were sharing one writer's salary.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. And then he also talked about like how aggressive he was, how he would have them do a lot of uncomfortable jokes or just Do things just because he wanted to do with leverage, getting their skit into the show, things like that against them. He would either joke about or take things too far, like they even talked about a lot of times.
Speaker 1:I'm asking for massages from the women there the thing that stood out to me the most that he asked the, the blonde woman, to do is like, bend over the table while you're Telling this story and act like you're being sodomized while you're telling this story. And then he just kept asking her and asking her, asking her to do it, and then she just did it and then when they asked her about it in the interview, she was so uncomfortable that she was like I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it was just interesting how like it was something we know that we were talking about. How, like, when women have been victimized, they'll talk about it in the third person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like I feel bad for that, that girl that young girl, yeah, yeah. It's. It's like as women I feel like I do this too you look back. It's not just as women, as people. You look back on your younger self as a different person because you're like they had a completely different mindset than I do now. I'm a. I have had so many experiences Since I was that person that she does seem like a completely different person. I could go back and talk to her and we would be different. So that's.
Speaker 2:I always feel bad when people say that, because I I'm pretty sure anybody who knows me, if they met me right now, would tell you that there's no, there's no real difference.
Speaker 1:Well that you could also say that's sad because you've no growth. I just say, yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2:Funny when people say that I just like I, never no emotional growth whatsoever. Hey, I got a got you didn't?
Speaker 2:I mean, I was already peaked out, but Something about me, alright, so before we get into, the darkness of it, because I said the one thing they did not touch on there was no have no statement of violence that happened against Amanda Bonds. Nobody clump made any claims about her. I don't even think, besides the hot tub scene, they really made her do too much, are they? They highlight anything she did that made her feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they. They kind of highlighted that like she Was able to lean on her talents because she was super talented in her comedic, timing was so good and Instead of being cute or being sexy, she was able to just be funny and silly and goofy, which was the first of its kind, like a woman doing that so.
Speaker 2:So after that, you know he goes back to Nickelodeon they start to highlight some of the people that were on the Amanda show. That kind of transitioned over, and one of the people that they referenced was somebody who was also on all that, and it was pickle boy, brian pick man. The John Wayne Gacy picture didn't do it for y'all.
Speaker 1:That was insane.
Speaker 2:I mean they tell a story where you know the kids go to his house, he has a party at his house. All you know families are there, so it's not just like the kids are alone. And he walks and he sees a picture of a clown. He ends up talking to Beck about what was going on and he told him it was a John Wayne Gacy picture.
Speaker 1:He turns it around and he sees like a sign it's signed personally by him. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Before we get into him, there's also another dude that was on the scene, jason Handy which is crazy, that your last name is Handy Crazy.
Speaker 2:This guy, he brings up a girl, he formulates a relationship, because he was kind of like the guy who would talk to the parents initially. So maybe if you got your kid who came up to the show for that day and they was going to put you in the scene, he was kind of like your point of contact for your parent. They say he exchanged emails with one of the girls and then sent the girls naked pictures of himself. Master baiting.
Speaker 1:Pleasuring himself this is early 2000s.
Speaker 2:yo, what is this nigga on?
Speaker 1:You're emailing fully nude pictures of yourself in the 2000s. Do you know how much work you have to do to do that? Like how? How early was this?
Speaker 2:Because, depending on how early it was, though you would send the pictures like 2000, 2000,.
Speaker 1:But like you would have to like, take the picture, take the SD card, get it onto your computer, transfer it onto your computer somehow, and then, like he had mad steps, or you had to stain it. That was so many times where he could have been like this is a bad idea. Maybe this is a bad idea. Maybe I shouldn't do this. Let me stop at this step. But it took like seven steps and he was like all throughout that, like yes, I'm going to send this child my penis.
Speaker 2:It was definitely grainy too, I can only imagine, because, like remember, we used to take the cell phone pictures and they used to look crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like Shawty used to send you a picture of her topless and it was just like two little pixels right there that you got to see. He was like OK, I think I know what that is, but it was crazy because he ended up going to jail, I think for a little. He did some time for that.
Speaker 1:You should have did more time for that. It's always. It's always crazy to me the amount of time that people, child molesters and sexual deviants get. Y'all should get way more time.
Speaker 2:It was crazy to me too that you didn't know that, like before, emailing pictures are like air dropping pictures to women. Niggas used to just put a naked picture of themselves and just ran mail them out to random people.
Speaker 1:That is I would. My day would be ruined If I came home after a long day I got to sit at the computer, wait for the dollar, and then I open my email to a white penis.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about before, that I'm talking about in the mail in the, so this happened to my mom. This happened to my mom. She still has the pictures for some reason. It's crazy, but she still has the pictures Got to stop throwing Shirley under the bus. I'm just telling you real.
Speaker 1:You got to stop doing Shirley like this, because first you said 40 year old, high risk pregnancy and then you telling us she saved random dick pictures.
Speaker 2:She told me to her, she told me that they're back in the day and this is I've heard this from other women too, it's not just my mom, this is from other women her age that men would take pictures of themselves naked, get a whole bunch of them of them produced and then put them in envelopes and mail them to random people's homes. That was the way.
Speaker 1:And those are the same dudes who eventually got to Facebook and started doing that same thing on Facebook. Yeah, straight up, so shit.
Speaker 2:Again, pickleboy was the one who was probably the most egregious out of all this, because he even went on to after what we're about to tell you about, because I'm going to do a trigger. One of the first Just know what he did. He went to jail for and then got another job with Zach and Cody, so I just want you all to preface that. So there's going to be a trigger warning for this. This is so child violence, all the bad things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we should have did a trigger warning.
Speaker 2:We didn't talk about any bad things, though.
Speaker 1:It was, it was a couple. Well, I think we did a good job hiding it, all right.
Speaker 2:So Drake Bell, if you're not familiar, drake Bell was on all that, I believe. I know he was definitely on the Amanda show and he had his own show, drake and Josh.
Speaker 1:Yes, which I absolutely loved.
Speaker 2:He was actually like one of the at the time. He was like the quintessential white boy when I was growing up, like he was cool. He's the cool white guy who had the skin skinny pants, the shirt with two stripes on it, for whatever reason, he had hair. Hair was rockstar hair. That hair he was. Every time he looked at the girl on the show she liked him like he was cool.
Speaker 1:He was always like just aggressively making out with girls on the show on Drake and Josh. It was hyper sexualized for sure. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:And it comes to find out that he was assaulted at 15. I think it was going on for like a year or so and it was by Brian Peck. He was the guy who was doing this. They go into detail where they give Drake his own episode man that talk where his father was having because he was so protective of Drake, so bad for his father.
Speaker 2:I just I could. I could understand that pain where it's like you were trying to do what you can to protect it, protect your son, and it's like it's out of your hands. But no, it's just that's exactly what happened, like he was so protective of him during his early times with Nickelodeon that they end up getting basically custody over back to the mom so so that he could literally drove a wedge between him and his father.
Speaker 1:He was telling him that, he was telling Drake that his dad was stealing money from him, which how would you know? You have no access to his finances and Drake started believing him a little bit and decided that he didn't want his dad to be his manager anymore. So his dad turns everything to his mother and was like you can completely take over his career. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1:One request that I need you to do is to not let Drake ever be alone with Brian Peck. Do not let him be around that boy because like he had a feeling and he it was like a parents intuition and he was 100 percent correct.
Speaker 2:They tried to throw homophobia on him because they said that he didn't like Brian because Brian was gay. Like they really like. It was really like the with the right wing conspiracy theorists try to put out, that's what they did to him. Like. When they try to say the liberal agenda like he, they hit him with that where it was like oh, you don't like him because he's homosexual, you need to be off the set and literally unprotected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then he gave a lot of grace to his ex-wife because he was like Brian tricked her because I'd have been like you, raggedy bitch, I gave you one job and you did not do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why do you think? I think they said that they was like, shortly after she got a job they got basically power, everything.
Speaker 1:He was with him alone all the time because it was just easier for for him to be there. Oh, he was like he lives in Orange County and it's a long drive and he would be like spending the night at his house and then it's.
Speaker 2:It was just disgusting and he really couldn't even go into detail. You could just tell how scardy was from, you know, just the lack of information he just wanted to provide.
Speaker 1:He couldn't, he couldn't put it into words.
Speaker 2:And then it didn't even come. It didn't even stop until he was with his girlfriend at the time and the mom was the one who was like why is this 40 year old man calling you multiple times? Blowing up your phone to the point where he got our house phone number and called our house phone.
Speaker 2:She ends up getting them to a therapist. He opens up to a therapist, they get the authorities involved, they end up doing a wiretapping where he basically all but confesses to what he did and they go to jail. He goes to jail but in the midst of the trial, of course they keep Drake's name, you know, out of the. You know the paper and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's completely anonymous, he's completely anonymous to do out.
Speaker 2:that time there was a lot of your favorite famous people advocating for Brian Peck.
Speaker 1:This was crazy.
Speaker 2:So some people you might not be familiar with. They were writing.
Speaker 1:What were there? What were they called? Letters of like character, yeah, character witness kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just basically trying to say like oh he, you know deserves grace. Yeah. Basically they're trying to stand up for his character, character witnesses. So James Marston was an individual who wrote Alan thick. John Robin Dick's father wrote in his defense, then producer Tom DeSoto.
Speaker 1:Shame.
Speaker 2:Ryder Strong, who was Sean on Boy Meets World.
Speaker 1:The entire Boy Meets World.
Speaker 2:It was, it was, it was Sean, and then it was, it was Will Fredy or Freddle.
Speaker 1:It was literally just Topanga and Angela. That was the only two people that didn't. Cory didn't write nothing either.
Speaker 2:But no that he wrote one. They both wrote one. Let me see who were some other people. I think that was pretty much the main ones that I took, but it was. He even tried to get Drake to make him the dad on Drake and Josh.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then at this point Drake was like absolutely not, I do not want you to be anywhere near me, this is not happening, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2:So I think it's important that we had this conversation because, again, we don't want to belittle his experience, because it's all documented and things of that nature. But do you feel like in some way, this was also being used to clean up his image, because he's also had things that he's gone to jail for not jail for but he's got charged for?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did two years probation. Yeah.
Speaker 2:For it was contacting and having inappropriate conversations with a 16 year old girl. Is this a hurt people hurt people situation.
Speaker 1:It's definitely one of those situations, because if you are subject to this in your childhood, then you are a little bit more likely to repeat it. Yeah, it's definitely not an excuse, but like it's a. It's a. It's a weird gray area because you don't want to say that he deserves grace, but he went through something like extremely traumatic and I'm just glad that, like he didn't take it so far.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 1:But he got punished for it. Yeah. And he did his time and there's always going to be a stigma around his name, regardless of the fact that we know that this happened to him.
Speaker 2:You're still going to be like the creepy guy that was talking to a teenager, so yeah, I mean, I just I kind of, I kind of was being mindful of that portion, but I just just to hear his, his story, just it did understand where it was like OK, man, this guy was like, if you even think about his archetype, like the redhead kid being abused, that's like all through media, like it's just crazy just to think about that and it's just people like right here, though I think Drake had had.
Speaker 1:It was a brunette.
Speaker 2:Now I was like a darkish burgundyish kind of looking color, but it was just crazy to where people were like in their character, riddance were saying he was being tempted, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. They were saying that, like the, brian Peck was being tempted by this victim, even with the confession.
Speaker 1:That's not Like. That's not a thing.
Speaker 2:It's just. It's just, it was just crazy.
Speaker 1:You're just creepy and you're attracted to young boys.
Speaker 2:They're not tempting you so just to kind of put where Dan kind of fits into this, dan didn't write a letter. Okay, well, they had them in red here, but he didn't have. Dan didn't write any letter. Dan, from what Drake even said, was supportive.
Speaker 2:Yeah there was a little inconsistency where the people who were at all that Tried to make it seem like there wasn't any grace, given like there was. They just said it was had something happened. They said they made the parents walk out, that the parents walked out, they told the kids a rough thing of what happened and, asking that I need to talk about anything. Nobody said anything and this was over with after that.
Speaker 1:Do you think that they handled it that way? Because they couldn't get into specifics, because they were trying to keep Drake's name out of it? Nobody knew that it was him.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, for sure it was that, and it was just them trying to protect their own asses that too, that's definitely the fact that they had the parents leave. If the parents left, that was already a violation of everything.
Speaker 1:Why did the parents not get notified? That's what I want to know. Like were they notified separately?
Speaker 2:And that's what it seems like they. They learned it at a separate time. Okay, but they told the kids on the on, which I thought was highly inappropriate, that yeah.
Speaker 1:There definitely needs to be parental supervision when you're telling them that happened. So, but maybe they told each group to separate versions. Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's like there was a lot of inconsistency, but the way they kind of wrapped up a, they went into these Zoe 101 I Carly victorious area of grande air and they talked about a lot of inappropriate jokes that were there. They even referenced the you know, the backpack episode with the girl who was been real vocal, who was on Zoe 101. Yeah, she was real vocal in all of that, then the Jeanette McCarthy does the tell all.
Speaker 2:McCurdy McCurdy does the the tell all book. I think that was to. That just came out 2022. You know that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought that book came out way before then. No, she, um, she's been doing, she did a lot of press afterwards.
Speaker 2:So that's probably why because she talked about it a lot. I just remember that when I thought that book came out like 17, but that's when they said that that was the year he kind of got.
Speaker 1:Nicole Nicole Bristow.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was her Okay. Yeah she was the one who was doing a lot of the talk. She said she had a prior some of the worst time on the show.
Speaker 1:No, her name is Alexa Nicholas. Okay, Nicole is the character that she played on Zoe 101.
Speaker 2:Okay, but they said that she had a real tough time and she's been one of the most vocal people About that. Let's see, I was. I wonder what question is. There was no mention of Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon, what happened to you? You were working with Dan.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of don't be quiet. There's a lot of people that didn't say anything, that are hell. Jamie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jamie Lynn, I wanted to say that too, because they kept trying to say the money shot thing was. They used to do that with Kenan Kale all the time. They used to put orange soda catch up used to always get sprayed in Kale's face and Kenan's face like that was a normal. That was a normal thing.
Speaker 1:That was just a normal Nickelodeon thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why I don't, I didn't, I didn't want to take too much into it. But let's get into a.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of like after stuff that happened. Yeah, there was a lot of conflict that happened afterward, like Uh, first we'll talk about just Jordan JJ.
Speaker 2:Remember little JJ. I do remember what happened with him. He said that his show got canceled and it was not getting his butthole, even though his show wasn't even produced by Dan Snider. His show was produced by a black guy. Well, Somebody else could have been trying to get it because, apparently in Hollywood it just be people trying to get buttholes.
Speaker 2:Then it was Nadie classified. You told me I can't not to say what I wanted to say about Ned. Don't say that I'm not gonna say it, but Ned, your file your Superfile saying that like, oh, we didn't experience that.
Speaker 1:When y'all have a podcast where you talk about how drunk and high Y'all were on set all the time and you talk about Jen Just knocking down the entire cast. She was just on set just between takes, just just Gobbling the dicks While y'all were drunk, and then she had a whole episode where she talked about basically being sexually assaulted While she was drunk and y'all want to talk about, oh, we didn't experience that. No, you're still living in your victim hood and you need to be saved.
Speaker 2:And there's some therapy that needs to go on over, y'all need, I just want y'all know what I was gonna say was a whole bunch worse than what she. Just said like. I had some heat for you, real shit. You better be glad I didn't do that.
Speaker 1:And then you had a baby with her, the dick gobbler.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's nasty. And then also Dan Did his own tell-all. You should be ashamed of your goddamn. I didn't like that. Apparently, he wasn't a child actor with him, he was an adult on the show.
Speaker 1:When he was on that show. I didn't I, he put everything, even though.
Speaker 2:I Carly was such a forward-thinking show I Didn't watch it. It was on when I was in high school, so it was like I wasn't really about to sit there and watch this flat-chested white girl.
Speaker 2:I can say that because I was a child and Nickelodeon for much longer than I should have at that time like Zoe one-on-one when I was like a freshman in high school, like my junior, my Middle middle school eighth grade year to high school. Like I used to like Zoe one-on-one, but that's cuz. The girls was like looking like girls and they was alone with you know, on the campus there were no adults around, like let's get busy, you know having me in high school. But uh, I did his apology and I Feel like I appreciate listening to it because again, like we said, we thought we were getting Harvey Weinstein for children and what it came out to be was just the dude was really just horrible bosses and a very like he put way too sexual of jokes in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for something that's supposed to be consumed by children, but let's not glaze past that. Wait, there was there was yeah, let's not glaze past the amount of money shot jokes that this man made for children.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about. He talked about that, though. He talked about that in his apology. You know he did take accountability for what was going on with the writers and what was going on set, but he said those jokes were not just solely by me. I did not have complete autonomy at Nickelodeon, yeah, and to me what it felt like after kind of gap didn't all that information. It felt like he was just the scapegoat. They propped him up, they gave him all these awards and all of this notoriety, While still promoting a culture where everybody in the room sees a young girl get sprayed with a Gook and gunk on her face. That looks like come and we're all cool with it and laughing that. To me he's not the only person who was the archetype of that culture.
Speaker 2:There was other people who had to be okay with this. There was a group of people. When you work with kids I work with kids on movies and stuff before there is a lot of red tape when it comes to working with children and what images are Okay. There's certain things that you can't even do like with the child if the mom isn't a person like. You can't have a kid naked in a movie or being shown naked in a movie if they're not being shown with their parent, like their actual parent. So, like I remember, somebody was just telling a story thing with Zach Snyder was telling this story where he was trying to do that for Was a watchman and he was trying to have a scene where the boy was gonna be like in the, in his drawers or something they said the only way that they could do it was his real mom had to be in the scene with him, but he couldn't get his mom to do the scene, so the scene didn't happen that way. But like there is red tape that has to be done for children to be on on set like that.
Speaker 2:And I agree where I don't think he was the sole Archetype of these jokes he wasn't the only person who was giving those a green light. There was people above him who wanted to see this. Yeah, he has bosses and they, when they were they, I feel like they set him up to be the perfect fall guy. So when it all came out, I think when he was coming down there being pissed off at people, it was a reflection of what he was hearing from the top. Oh, change this, do this over, even though. We just spent hours on these jokes, hours on this Skit. Now you just want us to change it immediately, and so we could be ready for the show in two hours.
Speaker 1:There is a part of me that Like, yes, he was some sort of scapegoat, but at the same time, like he was still writing these jokes, so he was still feeding into this culture also. Everyone is horrible.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not. I'm not taking that away at all, yeah, I'm just. I can just see where this has been set up for Him to be just a fall guy for this. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's fucked up. I think that's a lot of Hollywood BS that's going on there. I think there's a lot more people who should be held accountable for this. That won't be and that won't be. I think a lot of people, I would argue. There's probably people who produced this, who was probably working at Disney I mean Nickelodeon at the time and Could be a part of this. I would like to do some more deep digging before I make that concrete, but I Would definitely. It wouldn't surprise me if there was folks like who were executive producers at Nickelodeon and and did this too. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, uh, was there anything else that we need to get to with it? I think we kind of covered everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's get into something a little bit lighter, oh man.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited it's back. First time in 20 years I woke up and I got to watch X-Men. Oh baby. X-men 97 is back. Baby, I need to get some. I need to get some sound effects in here. I need to get some things going on my nerdy baby.
Speaker 1:He's so excited.
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna give a quick little review of the first two episodes. And man, I felt like a child again. I can't even lie to y'all. They got everything I want. Only thing I was upset with was was stuff that they wasn't even gonna change. Like man, that last scene of the second episode Well, not last thing, but the last. In Magneto, the second episode, when he brings those people up. I, I just wanted to see a brother in dreads right there.
Speaker 1:That's all I want. I just want to see a black man. It was not gonna make Magneto an Atlanta niggas, they just should have.
Speaker 2:That's all I wanted to see every word he was saying. I just wanted to see that come out of a brother that looked just like him, but with dreads, and was black. That's all I wanted to see.
Speaker 1:Magneto been be spitting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bars. Like he has so many bars and the one that I just felt the most when he was like. I am trying to be better. Mm-hmm that shit hit me at a core.
Speaker 1:He said I'm trying to be better, but don't. Make me let you down. I was like oh, Bars first of all, this man was watching this show like a basketball game. He was like. I was like this is not football.
Speaker 2:This was more than that. That was like you didn't like, as a young revolutionary, like you feel, magneto. Yeah and so I was just so happy so.
Speaker 1:I'd be let him cook next episode?
Speaker 2:I can't. We need to get bigger so we can get. The niggas got the third episode already, like the New rock stars and all them guys. We need to get our show bigger so we can start getting episodes early, because I need that. I Need to put that in right in here. I need that no shame none at all, but we do got some shame to blow on somebody. Can we bring the Queen B to the front? Oh, so if y'all not have seen, what is this called? Cowboy Carter?
Speaker 1:Yes, so act to have renaissance has been unveiled to us by Queen B and it's her country act. So her next album is called cowboy Carter and she recently I think this was the album artwork that she put out. I'm not a hundred percent sure it looks like it.
Speaker 2:I just think this is. This is so coded in maga.
Speaker 1:It is her on a white horse. Talk about it and she is in her little cowboy get up where little cowboy hat and she has an American flag and you can just see the, the stripes. There's no stars. You can't see the stars. There were people that were trying to like, analyze, like, oh, what does this mean? You know?
Speaker 2:it's so, megan. I just think it's one part that you didn't really notice, that I'm surprised that you did it what. Cowboy Carter in and of itself. That is for all we've known our whole lives. Beyonce knows so for her to not only adopt Her husband's name in her artwork, like I don't see how you can see, this isn't Maga Cody.
Speaker 1:Let me Um really quick explain. There was like a. She said that she had done her research and, like the first family that did country music, they were named like the Carter's or something, which is why she's naming. She's naming this cowboy Carter. Her last name by marriage also just happens to be Carter, from what I read I'm not sure if that's true. People on the internet just be saying shit. No, I I did.
Speaker 2:I thought it was interesting. We probably could do some. You know backtracking, but my theory will still stand until proven wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah this is super narratives. Yeah, oh, for sure, that's what we do here.
Speaker 2:I think it's very important to know that Trump has a digital trading card with very similar iconography. He is also on a white horse holding a Holding the American flag. That's basically the same thing this feels like again, a lot goes back to what we said with Jay-Z. This feels a lot like you're begging to be accepted. This looks like assimilation.
Speaker 1:So that is literally what Azalea Banks had to say.
Speaker 2:Oh, talk about the Queen. Now I know if the Queen saying what I'm saying we on the right, we on the right path.
Speaker 1:So Azalea Banks. I think whenever she pops out and she says something, people be trying to make it seem like she's crazy, but like, let her cook a little bit, you know like she, like Her opinions are very nuanced in comparison to other people's opinions and she has nothing to lose because I think she's already been blackballed. She goes say to real. So Basically, she came out and she was like this is tired. Mmm.
Speaker 1:I. She was like I don't like this. You're basically begging for album of the year. She was like girl, you been had several album of the years already. Stop trying to get these white people's approval. Your Very, very obviously trying to get these white people's approval and you're not gonna get it, so stop like pandering towards them. And then she came at Jay-Z. She was just like Beyonce is super creative and you can tell when she's at the helm of Like when she's the idea right when it's Jay-Z's idea is corny and she was basically like we don't like Jay-Z.
Speaker 1:Stop making songs with him. Okay, we don't want to keep seeing you with him. Go with your own ideas, and it's way more authentic when you do that.
Speaker 2:So, sis, I live for white aunt say Donatella, bianca, bar dot down. And I'm kind of I'm kind of ashamed at how you switch from Baba bar trees and black parades to the literal pick me stuff Like you do, lame stuff like bring out some black listed white women, dixie chick at the country music awards, and they would never do the same for you. You're always sharing your platform with white women who are so jealous of you but have such a long history of sabotaging other black women's careers.
Speaker 1:I love Blind items that have come out, like, if you're in that part of the internet that support that, like Beyonce, has allegedly ruined, has have tried to Ruin Rihanna's career because allegedly Jay-Z had a affair with her. She tried to. Well, she Ruin Carrie Hilton's career allegedly and a slew of other women Because Jay-Z won't keep his his meat in his pants and every time, apparently, this is the same thing. Allegedly that happened to Coco Jones, which is why her career is going nowhere.
Speaker 2:She was messing with Jay-Z, allegedly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't know. And then also the fact that Azilia was just like Jay-Z, like black women yeah, apparently.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:Coco was young and hot.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that she's not. I'm surprised he like like women, like that. He always seemed to be a brother that like to keep a little bit of white in there, like he likes you to be a little bit looking passing white, Like that's what always came to me, Even with Aliyah, like there was a lot of at the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Rihanna, yeah like there's a lot of what you could argue is white passing in regards to, like you know the way they body types and stuff like that. So I mean I'm surprised because she's a little bit thicker too. That's a curvy woman. Yeah, she is what you doing there, jay-z, allegedly that you doing around there. Boy, you know how I do them curvy there. Now, boy, you aint from the country, you a city slicker.
Speaker 1:The women in New York be having wagon asses too. It's just all over the place.
Speaker 2:Now he was going to Maryland getting them wagon asses. We know what was going on out there. We know the children is out there. We know what was going on out in your little Baltimore runs.
Speaker 1:Wake it up, I'm not going to see your families.
Speaker 2:All right, so was there anything else to pull from Azealia?
Speaker 1:So I just wanted to say it's interesting that she wants Beyoncé to get away from Jay-Z, because allegedly also in the blind items Jay-Z. It's always been weird the age difference between them and the stories they tell about the age difference when they met. So if it's true that Jay-Z groomed Beyoncé, I feel like that's what she's also trying to say Get away from this man who groomed you. He's boring and your career would be better without him and you would be more exciting without him.
Speaker 2:Sis, I'm sorry to ran on your parade but there's actually nothing monumental about it. Had you made a great country song going, number one should be the headline, without the weird race part. But like Khalees Ballerina and Carrie Underwood have better songs than whatever nauseating little boy, little Bey on the prairie, stuff is going on.
Speaker 1:Which is yet that looked like Boyd first the songs are just like watered down. I don't like this era. I don't like this act. I'm just going to skip it. I'm not even going to engage in it, but I love Beyoncé. That's not a thing.
Speaker 2:Someone tell Jay-Z his strategies are corny and Beyoncé has better ideas. Wake that shit up. Azalea, Azalea's who we need, man. I'm always going to say, Azalea, you need to get on the microphone, Let me produce you.
Speaker 1:Azalea, I desperately need you to start a podcast, like desperately.
Speaker 2:We'll find you your own, rory and Miles.
Speaker 1:I need you to get on somebody's network Speaking of networks really quick. Ray J was on Breakfast Club today.
Speaker 2:Wake it up. And see that's what I love when you do. When you sit there, you watch content and you bring it back home.
Speaker 1:And Ray J is a character. Yo, I'm never not going to be a fan of Ray J, regardless of his antics. That nigga know how to get on camera and make people care about what he's doing. So he's not with Ray Con anymore. He sold Ray Con back to the Ray Con people. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1:So now he's doing Tronics. So it's comparable to Zeus. The only thing that's different is he's saying that if Zeus is their competition, apparently Ray J did the first, like his production company did the first couple seasons of Baddies and Jocelyn's Cabaret and stuff like that. So he was like if Zeus is our competition, we're our competition Flex. So he was like it's basically going to be reality shows like that, but there's going to be actual storylines in between the fighting. Because if you watch Zeus shows which we don't, because that's bottom of the barrel bullshit it's just girls swinging at each other and they just be ripping each other's corals out and it's just like no story in between. It's just girls beefing and swinging and just being ratchet hood rats. It's crazy. So Tronics.
Speaker 2:I would love to cover that kind of content. Why don't we not talk about Big C?
Speaker 1:Tronics is going to be a platform with a bunch. So he says he has reality shows with Suki Hana, Blue Face. There's a show where Safari is trying to find love. I think there's a show with him and his family. There's a show where he said he just got transgenders. He was just like I got a show with transgenders, Bro, I love Ray J. We are going to be subscribed to Tronics. It's $4.99. We're going to get it on the ground floor. Ok, I am excited to see the just pure debauchery that is about to unfold. It seems like a lot of people are following him, from Zeus he has, like Stunna Girl and a couple of other people Blue Face specifically that are following him.
Speaker 2:He got on Tron too, so Blue Face is leaving Zeus yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh shit. So he said he has a show with Blue Face.
Speaker 2:He's doing a global takeover.
Speaker 1:So he's taken over and he's saying that the reality stars on his network are going to have more control over what the editing is and stuff like that. He showed his trailer and at the auditions I think for the transgender show somebody pulled it out and just let it.
Speaker 2:They pulled the hammer out.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh shit. He said somebody almost got shot in the head.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you thought the transgender pulled a meat out.
Speaker 1:No, what the meat out? No, they didn't pull it, it was a gun. I thought he pulled the hammer out. It was like what's up? Oh my god, that's hilarious. But yeah, so we are definitely Ray J.
Speaker 2:I am a fan like OD, so do you think this is happening, because we know this is a cap artist. Do we think this is happening?
Speaker 1:for real. He has trailers for several of the shows in the like sizzle reel that he showed.
Speaker 2:So did he show it on his phone to them, or did he? Play it on the screen.
Speaker 1:So he was showing it on the laptop, and then they put it up on the screen OK wake it up, ray J, and then he had a big ass came with the company logo. Charlemagne tested it it was real diamonds.
Speaker 2:Why would?
Speaker 1:you invest in a diamond chain logo for a company that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be honest with y'all. Y'all can beat that little diamond tester if he don't put it exactly on the diamond.
Speaker 1:Moisturite beats the diamond tester. Also, Did y'all know that If you test moisturite on the diamond tester and if you test lab grown diamonds on the diamond tester, it brings us diamonds?
Speaker 2:So that's why I say that diamond tester is flu-gazy. So I want to hear that.
Speaker 1:Also stop investing in diamonds.
Speaker 2:Show me the blood of the diamonds and they can show me them little kid hands that had to grab it. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1:Just get lab grown diamonds or moisturite. It's literally same clarity, same hardness. Not moisturite, but lab grown diamonds.
Speaker 2:Or show me the blood in the blood diamonds. I need to know to lose a little African to try to grab that mug.
Speaker 1:Well, there was.
Speaker 2:I need to know, I need to see his prints on there.
Speaker 1:Like you want a little name card.
Speaker 2:I need him to hold the little raw diamond and smile with a thumbs up. Kwame Motumbo picked this diamond. Yeah, I need to know that, I need a click, click girl when I get my diamond. Nigga, I can't say that.
Speaker 1:It's just like we need a compilation of you saying things in my mouth just dropping open.
Speaker 2:My bad.
Speaker 1:Like that needs to be a compilation.
Speaker 2:All right. So I think this is a good transition to get into, because you were talking about the Transgenders with good old RayJ.
Speaker 1:I just also want to say that RayJ asked Jess Hilarious to host a reunion for the show with the Transgenders. Like this, nigga is very unserious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's definitely going there with the hate speech on. She's going to pull up like Uncle Ruckus for Transgenders.
Speaker 1:The show for the Transgenders is called the Girls, and then she was like it's called what? And he was like the Girls. She was like oh I, that thing that she says. She was like oh I.
Speaker 2:She probably really wanted to say whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm going to go up there and call it the Bowies.
Speaker 1:The men Do it, the dicks but yeah.
Speaker 2:We aren't like her, though we're different. We aren't transphobic.
Speaker 1:She beefing with TS Madison again.
Speaker 2:That big back comment really hurt TS.
Speaker 1:Madison was on poor minds recently.
Speaker 2:You just made. Well, technically, this is a good transition still to with the big back. We're going to do the transition now. I wanted to get into Gilbert Arenas because of what he did and the big back connection was saucy Santana. Oh, that was the big, but then also we got it. What next we're going to talk about? But let's stay on this first.
Speaker 2:Yeah because I think that is very important for me to say this man, as somebody who is a connoisseur of podcasts, someone who enjoys and watches what's going on. Gilbert, I see what you're doing and you are stealing the Joe Button model bar for fucking bar. It's there. It's fairly evident, like I think a lot of people haven't really done the signs on.
Speaker 2:Gilbert and Joe Button, but I've been doing the signs. These two guys, if you go back to their careers when it comes to basketball and rap, they're almost the same guy. Like Gilbert Arenas was multi-time, multi-all star guy. One of his best season was in 2006. That was my freshman year. It was 2006. Joe Button was no high school.
Speaker 1:Old as fuck Ew 2006.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my first year in high school.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I graduated 2010.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, go ahead this is going to go old, two years after me.
Speaker 1:It's literally my first year of high school was 2009.
Speaker 2:Nobody cares about this part. So Gilbert Arenas 2006 season and Joe Button pump it up is essentially the equivalent of the two. Joe Button had a smash hit that goes around, remember, for years and in that same season Gilbert Arenas gave 60 to Kobe. So these guys are respected. Kobe is impressive. These guys are respected by their peers in the same manner and they kind of did the same thing. Once Joe was done with rap, he went heavy into the podcast For once. He was done with basketball after doing some baby mama drama and stuff like that, which they also have in common. They are both known snipers, like these guys have. I believe they're Eskimo brothers Straight up. I can't put. They probably are. I haven't found the connection just yet, but I'm doing the signs.
Speaker 1:I'm going to find out who they're connected.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure. So Gilbert Arenas I feel like y'all too are also Eskimo brothers. When it came to the media space, they took advantage of the same ploy. Which was former basketball player, former rapper this is this person, and that's where they kind of hijacked the algorithm. The same way, they were both on complex, when every day, every day struggle happened. Gilbert Arenas came in with his show with Mila Cleefa and Joe even talked about how that kind of pissed them off because they're similar.
Speaker 1:The porn star. Yes, yes, what was he doing with her?
Speaker 2:They wanted to this. Remember when we was talking about him and Miko Grimes? Yeah, that was the show that he had promised to try to do with Miko first, but they ended up putting Mila Cleefa on there instead, because she was a bigger name around that time.
Speaker 2:So, like I said they both was on complex. He didn't have the same kind of eruption that Joe did with complex, but even now, with the whole podcast scene, he's even taken another pick, another decision from Joe. He's done a decision. He's done another one of Joe's moves, the unbisexual move he did Now. So it goes back to Saucy Santana. Now Saucy Santana twerking was better than Megan's no lie, he said that.
Speaker 1:So that should be moving. Come on, it do be like he be throwing that shit, like first of all I think he got a BBL, but he be throwing that, that man booty and it be moving. That shit is heavy Period. I don't disagree. I do disagree that it's not better because I Megan's make her butt move like water, like it's natural, so naturally it's better. But so that should be moving. And I feel like when I saw that, I feel like if you're, if you're secure within your sexuality, you can make a joke like that.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I feel like to me I don't think this humor is is bad humor. Like, I think, a lot of straight black guys. They react to this humor and that's where Joe and Gilbert are both hijacking Just that reaction of oh, this guy who people watch, he's a straight black guy, just said some slightly gay and now that's going to make the algorithm go crazy.
Speaker 1:Like do you think Gilbert watches Joe Biden podcast?
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure. I believe he takes notes. I believe he takes because it's the. The pattern is like literally after Joe does something, a few years later Gilbert, or do it in his sports way.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Joe Biden podcast.
Speaker 2:flip your bitch, continue smoking, but he also fired coho's like slick, like our Joe did, like the. Gilbert used to do a part of his first podcast with this white guy and I was like the main dude who was always with him and then the next thing, you know, he was gone and he put Isaiah there and that's all. I've been with them for years now, but I remember the white boy, gilbert, I remember him. And Gilbert, you're doing so bad out there. They are here stealing other people jokes. So let me see if you are familiar with this.
Speaker 4:They got special ear right, I'm just baby. No, I'm just saying you know I'm special ed, yeah Right, you know the job of special ed teachers to make them fit into society, yeah Right. Now the problem is when they look normal and then they go out and have regular family lives. You can't tell who?
Speaker 2:No, let me take it.
Speaker 4:So what happened? So let me double down on that one, right Mm. Hmm, after they graduate, they don't put no fucking sign on them.
Speaker 3:Especially, they just let their ass out of society, like here you all go Right, here you go, you sitting there talking to one of you know she doesn't want to cut your whole arm off.
Speaker 4:Right, they wrote the short buzz and stayed in one class all day Did nobody see them. And then they got out of high school. Listen, they let them out in society.
Speaker 2:They lunch before everybody. You're right, right.
Speaker 4:Before everybody. They stayed in one class and they don't know when they let it, when they graduate, right, if they able to graduate what they just passing? On, they ain't taking a test to graduate, they let them out in society and, and with no fucking warning.
Speaker 2:So do you know where that came from?
Speaker 1:No, I don't.
Speaker 2:So there was a TikTok that was going around now too far, and you know who also played this TikTok Joe Button. Joe Button played that TikTok on his page. We talked about it. About two weeks ago, oh wow, so like two or three weeks ago. He plays the skit and then they have this joke on. This was like this week on Gilbert show.
Speaker 1:Like I said, you're stealing sauce from each other.
Speaker 2:Gilbert, you are stealing Joe sauce and you need to come to the front and admit it.
Speaker 1:You need to come up with your own shit, sir.
Speaker 2:That's crazy and, like I said, the TikTok did the same thing. They talked about special needs kids and how we just let them out in society and nobody can check on them and all this other shit, but Gilbert specifically, which is crazy.
Speaker 1:We don't need to label special needs kids. They're not fucking child predators like let them out into society, was that? What does that mean? They're just living their fucking life. Well, what sparked this conversation?
Speaker 2:was the woman who left on vacation and left her like what was like an eight month or 10 month year old baby in a box for like 10 days, and then the baby died in the box.
Speaker 1:She was special needs.
Speaker 2:They were just saying like, because nobody knows after they leave high school we can't identify the different people.
Speaker 1:So we have no idea if this lady was special needs or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just what sparked the conversation, so just special needs. People just caught us straight because this dumb bitch left her baby in a box to die. I'm just telling you what was sparked the conversation, even if you're special needs.
Speaker 1:You know that you don't leave a baby in a box to die for 10 days, Regardless how special needs you are it depends. Yeah, it does, it definitely does. But come on now.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying I see the sauce, I see what you're doing. I know that Brandon Jennings used to work with mall, so that's your mall. I see that Rashad McCants is your Rory, then he also has like ish, that's. That's. Kenyon Martin is your ish. Lexi Brown is your. Is your mail? For, like, I see what you're doing. It's very obvious. I've peeped game.
Speaker 1:I don't know these people, but it's a peep game.
Speaker 2:I know what you're doing. Then you bring in Cheryl. Like I said, gilbert, I'm watching you, I'm on your ass, okay, paul. So if I need that, but I'm especially with you, gilbert, and I need.
Speaker 1:That probably was necessary for a parently, but I see you stealing.
Speaker 2:I see you stealing, I see what you're doing. But I respect it because y'all are in similar lanes but are in two different niches. So I respect salute. Let's see what else we got to get into. You just want to get into the movie, the other big back, the other big back correlation there? Oh my God, no, but that's what. That's what it was. Charlemagne said it, I didn't say it. So my man we got.
Speaker 2:Shout out to our boy one time again. He's been waiting for this, alvin. Shout out to the front. Shout out to Mr Alvin Gray, also known as Hood Lifetime.
Speaker 1:Literally Hood Lifetime. I enjoy it very much. It frustrates me. Like an equal out, a very like fits very 50 50.
Speaker 2:So we want to thank Alvin for inviting us, letting us know about his virtual premiere that we watched, so we was able to watch it as soon as it released. First thing we're going to say is hey, man, we appreciate the connection and all that other stuff, but I'm going to tell you this I see why you put this one on YouTube, because this was nothing like this other one you've been working on. I see why this was the free pack.
Speaker 1:Alvin had a very free, like great reaction to our last video. He's a really nice guy, like a great guy, which makes it a little bit harder to like critique his stuff and it makes me feel like an asshole. But I have no problem with being an asshole, so I'm going to kick your back in. Let's go.
Speaker 2:And for any of y'all who feel like, oh, we're being on some bullshit, like he gave us the green light, so we come. So this movie is the way several critiques. This is the wife who didn't know who she married.
Speaker 1:So this is based off Risa Teeson's viral story on Tic Tac. It was like a 50 part, 80 hour video detailing what she went through with her pathological liar of an ex husband.
Speaker 2:And then my boy Alvin turned that 50 was a 50 minutes into like a nice little. What was it Probably about?
Speaker 1:hers is longer for the 40 hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hers was like 40 hours. Yeah, his was like an hour 30.
Speaker 1:Nice and compact, oh no, hers was like eight hours. My bad, it was 50 videos.
Speaker 2:It was eight hours Okay, so yeah his was a nice compact hour, 30 minutes so if you want to know what's going on, he'll put you right there. So first things first. I didn't watch Risa Teeson's anything.
Speaker 1:So the movie does not let you know what Risa Teeson went through at all. They don't even acknowledge her. All of the nuance in her story was completely taken out by Alvin like completely, I don't think Alvin he bought him or eyes this movie. I don't think Alvin watched all 50 parts of Risa Teeson's story.
Speaker 2:No, it was. It would have took him longer to watch all of everything that she put out than they did to film this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it seems like Alvin watched the clips of people talking about what Risa Teeson went through and then wrote the script based off that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he definitely is like. So the first one is like the obsession with power.
Speaker 1:Eight the blue power eight. So if you watch Risa Teeson's story, this was very much towards the end of her story, towards like middle endish part, when Legion, after a bunch of lies, after she's already fed up, he injures his knee and he's bedridden and all he's doing is drinking blue power eight and he's also. She realizes he's also peeing in these power eight bottles in one of. In the first scene of the movie, when she's going on the date with him, her car breaks down. He comes to save her to like change her tire or whatever. He goes inside he's like I'm about to change your tire, so I'm gonna go inside real quick get a power eight. There's a real quick flashes to him changing her tire. There's three bottles of power eight on the ground. When he's done he's like, before we go, let me go get another power eight. There's three right there.
Speaker 2:Yo, this man had a power eight glued to his hand, the entire movie, the entire movie in between.
Speaker 1:Oh, I wanted to knock that shit out his hand. I wanted to fuck. What the fuck are you?
Speaker 2:doing. I know his entire insides was blue after filming this movie.
Speaker 1:It wasn't his entire insides, because this movie took six hours to shoot.
Speaker 2:So after that they end up kind of doing a little whirlwind romance and he kind of basically starts to finesse the entire time. One thing I kind of threw me off with this was like he always had like a like you, a drunk haze to him the entire movie like the power eight was a 40 ounce like it was.
Speaker 1:It was hypnotic in that pot. It was like it was malt liquor in that fucking bottle.
Speaker 2:What? What? His disposition? And I don't know if this was just a character choice, what he was trying to do, but his disposition was like a drunk wine. Oh, the entire time I didn't know when his emotions were going up or when it was going down, because he's a bad actor.
Speaker 1:That's simply. He's not a good actor. Oh, so that part was just the but also Alvin put out the ad for the actors for this movie on Craigslist for sure.
Speaker 2:He also. He also like there's a scene in the movie where he's supposed to be mad at her because she, her boyfriend or something her ex boyfriend came to the house and she made up he was literally the same disposition. He was when he was feeling the time he was fixed the tire. I cannot tell that he was upset at all.
Speaker 1:Horrible actor. What I want to talk about is Alvin's role in this movie, because that was probably like the most ridiculous and simultaneously my favorite part of this movie. He's supposed to be the real turd, and then he picks up the phone. He's like yes, hello, this is the real turd. How can I help you today? He was literally screaming, alvin. Why were you screaming?
Speaker 2:You can tell like this was done, like it was a post cut, that they weren't talking to each other during the scenes because they were not reacting how anybody were reacting when you would have seen Alvin away. He had his whole character, like the first time we watched it. She was like about to go to sleep and she heard Alvin's voice and just went, is that?
Speaker 1:Alvin. I was like what is that? Why is he so loud?
Speaker 2:So they end up keep going on. He basically kind of has like these bellies of lies, but they're like she does this woman thing where she's like, well, he's paying the bills and he's keeping up a flow is just it ain't as big as he wants to do. Can I just say this one thing she was just going with the flow. She had the worst fits of the entire movie. I thought that, like every outfit they put her in was just so unflattering, like, especially when they went to the graveyard she looked like she was trying to be Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1:She was just in like hoodies, and no bad shit when they went to the funeral or the cemetery.
Speaker 2:She was in full leather, like she looked like she was about to go. She was a comedian. She's a comedian, so it looked like she was trying to go on a set, like she had a 15 to do after they filmed this. No lie, she looked like she. That's what she was about.
Speaker 1:This. Oh my God, Alvin, I just I want you to try. It's also like he is hood, lifetime because lifetime movies. Like I just be frustrated and confused the whole time. And that's what I feel like when I watch Alvin Alvin Gray movies. Like I just be frustrated and confused the whole time. And then there's a couple tidbits that I'm like this is so bad that I'm entertained because it's funny, but past that I'm just frustrated the entire time, bro, Like it's so crazy.
Speaker 2:It's funny that you, I was noticing through this movie, unlike the Megan Astellian movie and even the nurse movie when no sex scene in this movie there couldn't be. Oh no, it could have been Every didn't.
Speaker 1:nobody want to see that sex scene.
Speaker 2:If you wanted to go viral, Alvin, that's what you should have did. You put a sex scene in there.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you didn't. No, they look like the couple who like shade?
Speaker 2:like they look like the couple when the guys like freshly out of jail Like that's how couples usually look like when a man just comes out of jail. That's what they look like. They either look like that or the couple where the girl like don't really want the old nigga to hit, but it ain't really too many niggas knocking, so she put her hand over the pillow while you hit, like that's the kind of couple they look like.
Speaker 1:Alvin, why do you keep casting people with the thickest Detroit accents?
Speaker 2:It's not Detroit, it's Baltimore, baltimore.
Speaker 1:What? Why do you keep casting people with the thickest Baltimore accents that you could find the Mike be picking up them? Yeah, like it'd be. It's crazy. Try to find somebody that doesn't have the two you like. Try it Just it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not his fault. Baltimore is a third world country. It's not his fault. It is hey man, a PG guy. I'm sorry, you know we got to throw hey Baltimore.
Speaker 1:It's really. It takes me out of it.
Speaker 2:And then the movie ends with, like him getting arrested and I think it was like for like I want to say, it was like property or something like tax or something that he had. Like some type of warrant was on, it was on the jacket.
Speaker 1:from what I remember from the actual story, he had like a warrant and then she called the police because he wouldn't. She wanted him out or something. He wouldn't get out the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I had to do like a setup where he likes, basically she, she was working with the police doing a stakeout trying to get him to come to the house. It was so fucked up, man, oh my goodness. But no, I just got to say shout out to her name. Was who the comedian? She was the girl who played Risa Tisa. Shout out to you because you know people's gonna make fun of you doing this role.
Speaker 1:She did have a couple like when she wasn't actually acting and she made like a little couple side comments. Those were funny. You could tell that she had good comedic timing.
Speaker 2:Like when the stepdaughter died and she was like, how did the girl get your number?
Speaker 1:She was like where is this coming from? But like you could tell that she has good comedic timing and she just didn't have a good script to go off of. So shout out to you, girl.
Speaker 2:And also another reason that Alvin is hood lifetime is he didn't pay Risa Tisa for this either, so he definitely didn't just like lifetime, wouldn't? So shout out to you, brother, yeah. Do we? Have any more. Anything else we had to add to that?
Speaker 1:No, I think that is everything. Oh, I also wanted to say, like Alvin, you need to come to Atlanta to shoot something, definitely.
Speaker 2:And he also got some more movies coming. This man, alvin, had a whole little trailer before the movie dropped in everything he got. The actor that got chased around the city.
Speaker 1:So Jonathan Majors movie and shout out to you for getting a white girl to play the white woman, because I was very taken aback by Kylie and the rapper who got shot in the heel. I was very taken aback by Kylie being a thick, dark skinned black woman. Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:It was shot.
Speaker 1:You couldn't find one white girl.
Speaker 2:Or you made her skinny. You could have made her like a juxtaposition between her and Megan. Yeah, like there would have been at least a better reason for her to be like, acting like she was angered because you, you are on a girl that don't look like me. So, speaking of that, let's get into a little question I have here for us.
Speaker 1:What is the question, baby? So I?
Speaker 2:was watching some videos and they was talking about like three sums and like how you get a partner and things of that nature. And it made me think about when we watched that real sex episode where the guy had the three some of. They had that three some with the girl and his girl was like real top heavy. She had like big breasts, but the girl that they had the three some with had a real big ass. He even, like, made comments of it when they was kind of talking about their experience. And it made me ask the question so, as you as an individual, if there was a three some to be requested, would you be more upset if that happened with somebody who looked like you or it was your phenotype, or with somebody who had qualities that were the opposite of yours?
Speaker 1:I would prefer that you request somebody that fits in the same box as me.
Speaker 2:Could you expand why?
Speaker 1:Well, I, I love feeling like I'm your preferred type, because that's what I do feel like about my husband. I feel like I'm I'm what he prefers, which feels good, right, and it would make me feel the opposite if you requested other like this is something that you desire so much. You don't get, and you want it like I wouldn't like that for my ego.
Speaker 1:I mean I would want you to request three some with somebody who looks like me, because how would you feel if, hypothetically, because obviously in his world I there's? No, I can't request a three some.
Speaker 2:It's just divorce.
Speaker 1:Why would you divorce?
Speaker 2:There's no three. Some you're gonna have to leave bitch.
Speaker 1:That's what he's thinking. But if there was a world where I would be able to request the three, some with another man? This is not happening, but if there, if this were to happen, and I, it was a like, dark, dark skin, black man with like waves in a fade fighting.
Speaker 2:I'm doing a Christmas wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he would not crash out, your ego would be crushed. My chest would hurt and everybody got to because then now you're spiraling, You're like is this what you actually want on a regular basis? And you're requesting this because you want to fulfill this like little quota that you haven't gotten from me. That's what it is because you hate me.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it is. It's trauma in the highest order. Yeah. So you're trying to do you, just trying to hurt me. You don't want me to feel good about myself. And if you were to do that, I would just start giving them fake kisses like Jonathan major. You saw that I did that shit made my skin crawl. That wasn't good, jonathan, I didn't like that is Megan good.
Speaker 1:Do you know how many men have fantasized about just being near that set of lips? The only they are pillowy soft If I had. I'm fully straight. Okay, if I had the opportunity to kiss Megan good, I'm lingering for at least seven seconds.
Speaker 2:The only thing I can understand is this because you be wearing some lip gloss that I don't like to kiss either. Yeah. I don't mind if you don't have it on, but if you got that gunky lip gloss on, I don't really want to kiss that, and maybe, maybe she had that on, maybe because they look like he didn't want to.
Speaker 1:He looked like he was disgusted with black women, because that she was like right, yeah, he was like oh no, not your big nigger lips. Like please show me grace. I want to watch the video though, just so I can see if she had lip gloss on.
Speaker 2:No, she definitely has something on her lips. I don't know if it was makeup or not, like lipstick or anything, but she does have some on her lips. I could just understand like that stuff doesn't like that doesn't feel good on your lips as a guy, so I can just understand that kind of kids. That's why I wasn't trying to hold them to like any kind of real standard with it, but that it did look wild Like it did look like you detested white women. I'm black women.
Speaker 1:I can't find it.
Speaker 2:All right, do we? Do we get any want to get anything else? I think we they were good. Oh I mean that was everything that we was going to hit on me. We fill in in the frog ear and the bronze podcast is pretty cheap. It's nigga, had JJ ready right now and pieces of paper, nigger. You have money, dog, and you bet you better spend it now before Savannah take it Over there posting sexy red stories.
Speaker 1:Fuck my baby, dad, my baby dad, Get your fucking house in order.
Speaker 2:LeBron.
Speaker 1:The fuck going on. Why do we know how Savannah's feeling, I'm telling you too many emotions.
Speaker 2:I remember niggers thought I was I was crazy when he like randomly like posted how much he loves Savannah one time and I did the science. I was like this is not their anniversary. She's mad at you. This is not her birthday. Oh, this nigga in trouble.
Speaker 1:Did you see? They posted a video dancing with him.
Speaker 2:Oh he looks so upset. He looked like he looked like he saw our video and they he laughed a little too hard at it and Savannah was like oh no, come on, we doing to take talks.
Speaker 1:It looks like he didn't know how to do the dance, but no, I seen that.
Speaker 2:I seen that that wasn't, that wasn't it.
Speaker 1:That's one of my favorite. I think we're about to become a LeBron cast.
Speaker 2:We're going to be a LeBron Savannah cast up into the divorce proceedings?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I really hope they don't get divorced.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll see. Let's see if she can muster up. I don't know man they talking about. He threw her under the bus with the trainer allegedly so you didn't hear about that.
Speaker 1:No, so there is.
Speaker 2:So there was a trainer who worked with allegedly work with her and work with one of his managers and said and he was involved in dealing to other professional athletes steroids, and they were saying Savannah has said that she worked with him but she never received anything from him. Also was the same thing that I believe it was Maverick, but I'm not sure there was another guy, his team, who worked with him but said he never Received anything for LeBron. Oh wow. So people were saying, like she already had to clean up one of your messes here. It's you know, some things maybe going to crumble. I don't think anything's crumbling at all. I Think that it's Pretty much. All that stuff is to the background. Like LeBron has been 20 years in the game, ain't nobody said nothing about anything. If he was juice and fuck it. They don't care, nobody care. So I just think that's interesting. So we're gonna definitely stay on LeBron.
Speaker 1:You know what? I was making that face just now while you were talking why I went on Ray J's new network. I googled the Tronix network. The page is still like a WordPress page and then if you go to their Instagram, they have like 2,300 followers. No, but that's the same thing with LeBron's page. Hold on Hold on, okay, okay. Okay, so this was the wrong page.
Speaker 2:Hold on when the like 16k hold on. When LeBron posted his mind of the game page, they didn't have. They aviated. There was not an avi on the Twitter post. This is a mess. So for like 12 hours there was a post with them. We know I sent them. Are y'all hiring Cuz? Clearly?
Speaker 1:I need help. Ray J, where do we pre-subscribe? Because you said in the in the caption to pre-subscribe, but I told you this nigga was lying. When when you go to the thing, hold on, I don't hold on.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Website, like there was no website.
Speaker 2:I told you okay, okay, okay Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look at that blue face.
Speaker 2:Does it hold on? Let me see, does it have the lock when you, when you want to get to the okay, does that? Okay, you got the little lock by the website.
Speaker 1:I just want to make sure yeah, so we about to subscribe for 99 a month. Baby Are we right now going on a safari house of blue face that's sick inside the network. What do you think he gave them? You think he gave them.
Speaker 2:Fight club. You think he gave him up for money or do you think he split in the ad money?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know niggas like to split the ad money Yo.
Speaker 1:Wow. This is crazy, I am. I'm highly entertained full year of unlimited streaming for 49 99, but it's 499 a month. Okay, at least he ain't doing Natasha.
Speaker 2:K.
Speaker 1:Okay, like.
Speaker 2:Tasha K would have paid, made you pay for them two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you getting a little discount, you get a little $10 off.
Speaker 2:You getting two months free. Yeah, so you only got paid for 10 months. You do that. All right, I think we can wrap it up we did. Think we had a good show here. Hope you all were entertained.
Speaker 1:Were you entertained.
Speaker 2:Sorry, that was too much.
Speaker 1:I got a A message. Oh yeah, I'm so glad I didn't forget about Hold on.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad that you didn't forget about this. Yes, I'm so glad I didn't forget about this now Yo save on.
Speaker 1:I think I just don't know if bringing his brother into this is the correct.
Speaker 2:No, this is how we have to wake it up. All right, podcaster to podcaster, save on. You're no longer the dawn to me. Talk to your brother, nigga. Talk to your brother, this nigga we. I know we mentioned in our last one that there was some some Six degrees of separation type shit going on here. But my nigga, stay out my wife's DM's. I will. My nigga, I will talk big Whoo. My nigga, stay out of my wife's DM. She ignored you once, save on the Don's brother. She ignored, save on get your fucking brother. She ignored him once. Then this nigga tried to dirty Mac and call my wife his soulmate. My nigga, I will fire you up. Do you understand me, my nigga? Do you have a problem? My nigga, I Will be there on 14th ever, whatever that shit is up there in New York. Nigga, I will meet you at.
Speaker 1:SOB baby, baby, baby. Let me tell the story. You say happy jumping the gun.
Speaker 2:I think it disrespect to me.
Speaker 1:Oh, he did so I I Got a Facebook message a while ago. I ignored it. I got a follow-up message saying that like, send me your number. And I was like I'm married and you know how you only get like a portion of the message. So when I when it popped up, it was like oh, I didn't realize, congratulations, okay. And then I opened the message and then it was like he was like don't let your husband stop you from finding your soulmate.
Speaker 2:I'm your motherfucking life and your motherfucking life. Think that anything over here needs some correction.
Speaker 1:My nigga and I was like that's why that is wild.
Speaker 2:We are not soulmate at the fuck all nigga. How you gonna be nigga. This nigga is disrespectful as fuck. You just ain't even, you ain't even done nothing with this. You was cool with her. You knew her in school, nigga, fourth period. Nigga she gave you a glass of milk one time. Nigga she paid for your lunch money, nigga. You wasn't that kind of dude Talking about soulmates nigga.
Speaker 1:There's no basis for him to be safe like just I was. Just, it was just save on call job.
Speaker 2:Call y'all shared daddy up y'all niggas need to have discussion. I don't Y'all need to have a discussion, nigga Cuz. This is this how your daddy teaching y'all the dirty Mac. Wow, that's disgusting. I Know that. I know you a son of button. Is this what button taught you? Is this what he teaching you to teach your brothers? His brother?
Speaker 1:is it?
Speaker 2:Y'all all getting smoke now. Wow shit, stay out of my wife's DM. Are you gonna get the will Smith treatment?
Speaker 1:that was respect, though it was really interesting to experience, oh yeah that's the last thing we're done.
Speaker 2:This shit is. This is wild. You know it's not the first time this happened to me. I've had other girls that I've dated, had the brother of the work, you know, nigga from holes Zero. Yeah, his brother, oh work, hit my old work and Kind of smudder out to go to the store, she told me. But still, why would she tell you that story?
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:I was trying to figure that out for a little bit too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you got smudded out by anybody, you shouldn't be telling anybody. That's better about a brother like cuz.
Speaker 2:My thing is this if you think about you didn't even get smudded out by the famous when you think about what the brother is. The brother is going to shoot at a certain type of woman because he see who his brother accomplishes with his fame.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he'd know better not to go to who the women who hit, type of women his brother going to shoot at the girls that are gonna be impressed by the fact that you're a famous niggas brother, so that should have showed you a lot about that thing.
Speaker 2:But still, I don't like that. I don't like how these brothers of famous niggas and me getting the same kind of work Not in this sense because you didn't get this work, you just got to know this work Non-framently, you just, you was just familiar with her, though. You know what I'm saying? My G, but not that shit was laying. Don't let that shit happen no more. My nigga smoke big.
Speaker 2:Lorda big ups, nigga, cutting all that up too, man, it's gonna be a good little cut up for save on it. You know how to don. No more, nigga. You need you. What you need, what you need to know, is Tell your brother to watch his fucking DMs and stay out. Anything going on over here.
Speaker 1:It's really wild, because I feel like he just sent out like a Grip of those because, there's no reason, like there's no reason then you try to treat my wife like the joint.
Speaker 2:Oh, my nigga know, you will give my, you will give my wife the spam message. Who does they can think he is you save on the Don's brother.
Speaker 2:No, let's get off this, save on you save on the Don's brother thinking that you could come in my wife. No man, life is a labor love. So let's keep building these moments together, except save on the Don's weak ass brother. Your job is not your family and only thing we should be exploiting is corporation. And save on the Don's fucking brothers. Loser ass we out of here. Wow, like, follow, subscribe Wow.
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