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Confront the uncomfortable and ignite your mind as we navigate through a labyrinth of social dynamics, sports controversies, and the intricate balancing act between personal expression and public critique. Our latest podcast episode is a riveting journey across the tightrope of content creation strategies, with a specific focus on the portrayal of African-American advancement and the nuanced interactions between men and women surrounding sex and respect. We don't shy away from deconstructing the gender and race issues brought to the forefront by Angel Reese's candid post-game remarks, and we amplify the voices of black female athletes navigating an often unforgiving spotlight. Our host experts enrich the dialogue with their unique perspectives, ensuring a debate that's as enlightening as it is contentious.
As we pivot to the raw drama of media consumption, we place a magnifying glass over the emulation of negative male-dominated behaviors in sports media and the villainization of confident women, setting the stage for a provocative discussion on double standards. Our conversation doesn't end there; we dive headfirst into the murky waters of workplace dynamics, the blurred lines of professional conduct, and the thorny evolution of gender interactions in modern society. From sharing personal anecdotes to dissecting celebrity mishaps, we lay everything on the table, offering a candid look at the awkward dance between fame, relationships, and the relentless gaze of public opinion.
In a world where the soundtrack of our lives is as varied as the human experience, we don't just stop at societal issues; we also turn up the volume on the music industry's debates. Chance the Rapper's legal entanglements and the complex interplay of marriage, music, and sobriety become our rhythm as we question the impact of personal relationships on artistic output. We weigh in on the contentious discussions surrounding addiction recovery methods and the divisive critiques of tribute performances in the music realm. Through it all, we remain committed to fostering thought-provoking, unscripted discourse that challenges norms and encourages listeners to form their own opinions. Strap in for an episode that promises to push boundaries and provoke thought long after the last note fades.
that couch and how content he looked with the with that white twinks toes in his mouth. Sir, like I don't know, I just feel like for african-american advancement there was no reason for you to put that on camera treat women like children.
Speaker 2:All right, don't talk to them about if they're not your woman. Don't talk to them about sex. You just keep them at at arm's length and that's just the best way to do it. Because it was funny in that conversation, that same gentleman who was saying the stuff that triggered the women. He said the way that you talking is childish and I said, sir, I know, I know where you're going to, I know where you want to land at, but it ain't gonna end where you want to.
Speaker 1:You ain't gonna be outnumbered, so just that men and women haven't been working together for that long, that joe's only around sex workers and this, and that, like my, you literally like you should be you shouldn't be around women. You should be quarantined from women. This podcast is sponsored by Graffiti Tax Services. For all your tax preparation needs, you can go to GraffitiTaxcom we're going to put the link right here it should be somewhere, and, yeah, you can head to them during tax season and if you have any financial or tax preparation questions, head to Graffiti Tax Services. They're our new sponsor. Thank you to graffiti tax preparation services. That's it all. Right, we're back. What's up?
Speaker 2:what's going on? What's going on a long week it has been yes but we back in the seats. Man, it's funny anytime we get a new clip. That kind of gets a little bit of engagement because, these folks be going crazy.
Speaker 1:I think we just I feel like little puppet masters when we sitting up here I knew that the people were going to mostly agree with me because we gonna start calling him terrible. Take rhetoric at this point, because during the whole like back and forth, I was like this nigga does not understand what I'm I'm trying to beat into his head like you.
Speaker 2:You got that because early engagement was on your side. But if you look at what they're saying now, a lot of people are talking about what I'm saying and he just has the people. There's one thread, there's multiple, like I just looking at his three comments in a row, I just seen that was on my side, so okay you just got to be ready.
Speaker 2:Like, when this comes, these terrible takes that you try to throw at me and try to like devalue my brand, like, just understand, is it comes from a place of just serious logic, you come I'm trying to find these comments and I can't, because you're lying. You're just lying to the people now and that's all you want to do.
Speaker 1:You want to get up here and gaslight me so 90% of the comments are agreeing with me and then there's a couple of stragglers that are agreeing with him, but I think it was a really fun debate to have.
Speaker 2:In general, the whole like it was basically like a conscious rap versus pop rap argument. I think I mean more of a. It's more of a what you're doing when you're putting out your product than it is anything. Yeah, you take six years, or the joke that I was basically making was you take that time to put out your project. That's cool. But in reverse, the person who is putting out content over and over and over and is still being looked at at a high level, regardless. If you think it's the greatest thing ever, that's a better feat to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I disagree. So, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 2:All right, man, let's get to the music.
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Speaker 4:You whisper in my ear, baby, tell me how you really want it. And hanging up like you all that then get mad when I tell you that I'm busy. Baby, call back, please. Ain't nothing left to say to you this song was basically like porn for me.
Speaker 2:Oh peep-pop. I'm so shook up over that. It wasn't even in the country Pop Smoke. Oh, I thought they said pop.
Speaker 3:No, Pop, Keep the dance floor packed, that's without a doubt. We sure to shake that thing like a pro man. She backed it up on me.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh man, I got close enough to her so I know she can hear System thumping, party jumping. I said loud and clear All a nigga really need is a little bit, Not a lot, baby girl. Just a little bit. We can get to the crib in a little bit. I can show you how I live. In a little bit I'm gonna unbutton your pants just a little bit, Take them off, pull them down just a little bit. Damn In a little bit.
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Speaker 6:I put diamonds on your chain To make your diamond ring. I might just hit it for a whore. That's how my element. I, like both skins, love a melanin when I'm stepping in 30 bottles of C-14. I got the rainbow Switch to the bro-ry. I'm a gangster but I like to party. Are you tired of paying a lot of money for your vacation? My name is Shirley Proctor and I am a partner with Tavodian, a traveling membership group. I can help you save time, money, help you and your loved ones see the world.
Speaker 1:That was a cute little mix.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was actually like a mix in like the realest sense, where they just Like an actual DJ. No, they just took like vocals and they took like different beats and stuff and then like just spun it. That was actually dope. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:All right, man, we got to get into the show. Man You're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, redrick, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and wonderful co-host, miss Reality. Hi guys, all right, we got to start. Here we back into a topic that's I've been wanting to get into a little bit more. I've just been waiting for the catalyst, so we just had, you know, a big game in the women's March Madness tournament.
Speaker 2:So, shout out to them. Did you know that this is like the second or third year that the women have been allowed to use March Madness for their tournament moniker?
Speaker 1:I did not know that. I've been learning a lot about women's basketball and the WNBA in general, so I don't I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2:So for years they weren't allowed to use the actual moniker of March Madness. That's like the big brand Y'all don't make no money, I can't use stuff.
Speaker 1:That was essentially what's going on.
Speaker 2:I remember, even a few years ago, they were complaining about the quality of food that they were receiving. It was way worse than the men. It was stale bacon and all that kind of stuff that they were getting. It was tough, it was tough Not pickle juice. Just to see where it's gone now. They actually said that it was like 12 million viewers of the game that was just happening with LSU and Iowa. So shout out, that's great.
Speaker 1:I mean again, that does pale in comparison to the I was going to say like how much is a regular, like an average viewership of a regular basketball game?
Speaker 2:Well, just a regular men's college basketball game. It probably depends definitely getting into the millions would probably see if I can do a google while you talk I'm gonna guess and say it's probably like maybe million, two million at the for ncaa march madness, it's probably like the normal uh viewing, probably for men. I would.
Speaker 2:I would say that but, I think it was just really dope with how big this is. I was going to say it is still like I think Larry Bird and Magic's game was like $30 million, but that was like in the 70s. So you know, I guess you could say it was easier to attract people, or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it just goes to my point where I was saying that this is like their moment and it was really big to like see this game get as much. Probably I didn't watch the game neither of us did I didn't watch the game, but I wanted to.
Speaker 1:I really wanted to go see a women's college basketball game this season, but I don't know when the seasons happen. So I was like, oh babe, let's go see a game. And he was like it's the finals, it's almost over, it's the last tournament.
Speaker 2:And I was like, oh babe, let's go see a game and he was like it's the finals, it's almost over, it's the last tournament and I was like oh shit. So that's where I'm at now. I'm going to be honest I don't really like to watch girls basketball. I don't know if that's bad to say.
Speaker 1:The average viewership for the first round of the men's NCAA tournament was 6.2 million. Oh damn I was off then.
Speaker 3:Or 8.3 million I was really low balling them, yeah, so. I mean that's this is good for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real. That's really good for them to have a game. This is really amazing for women's sports in general, I think.
Speaker 2:For a game to do that big Mm-hmm. But I do forget that, like the way that they show the games too, is kind of different during the first round, like they flip through games, they go through, jump from different timeouts because it's only teams playing. But I think the it's interesting just to see because, even though, like I said, I don't watch the game, you know what we talk about, we like to get into, you know how the media reacts different little conversations in regards to that.
Speaker 1:Do you want to guess what the average viewership is for the women's NCAA tournament?
Speaker 2:They don't have for first round, but they have for second round.
Speaker 1:So I would say what?
Speaker 2:800K 1.6 million. Okay, so what I thought was for the men was for the women, and the men just jumped tenfold. But it's a lot of betting on this stuff too, so I think that's a lot. What's really helping is the gambling too. The gambling portion on this is helping folks a lot and helping the game kind of get a little bit bigger sense. And then it's the fact, like one statement I've been hating seeing before. This is like oh, the women's game is better than the men's game and it's like no, it's. You have a storyline with these girls.
Speaker 2:You know, who they are. They've been doing this more than one time. The guys are not doing that anymore. They're going to the NBA as quickly as they can to get their money, and that's good, because that's just a progression of the game. It's no longer needed. College isn't needed, the same way that the women's game is needed.
Speaker 1:This is what I've been telling y'all. In the sports we need drama, tea storylines, competition, rivalries. I need friends to I mean enemies to friends arcs. Okay, like, give it to me please.
Speaker 2:I mean we had a little bit of that because we had a girl from Louisiana excuse me, louisville. She went to LSU this year so she had transfers. So with the whole transfer portal, we having essentially super teams that were getting uh created. Caitlyn clark and her team were pretty much the same unit they were last year, but she was playing phenomenal. I mean I looked at the highlights. She was playing phenomenal, uh, but they end up getting a win.
Speaker 1:I need a hard knock, but for like the college level, that would be very interesting and then add the ladies into it. Like, add the ladies into it, I don't care about the WNBA. Follow the young college girls and then hopefully we'll just want to watch them into their WNBA careers and then the WNBA viewership will go up Maybe.
Speaker 2:So, just to piggyback on that, the NBA used to have a series they would do that was called Rookies, where they would, they would take like three or four rookies and they would follow them through the whole season and then they were like documented during the summertime and stuff like that. So there's stuff that you can do to sell these women more because, again, that the season's so short, you're gonna have to, you have to kind of you know step out of that.
Speaker 2:But let's get into some of the commentary, because I think I'll just play stuff yeah I'll play some stuff first I didn't watch the game.
Speaker 1:I saw things happen after the game and stuff and comments that were made, so we'll get into that after okay, so I'm gonna play.
Speaker 2:This is emmanuel ocho, so I'm y'all not familiar. He's fs1 sports. He also did awkward conversations with a black man I don't know if you saw that where he was like talking to police and white people about like oh, oh.
Speaker 1:I think that's a good little title, good premise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's the worst person to do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, he's not.
Speaker 2:He's got that vibe where he's trying to give empathy. Too much empathy for the white man in his dialogue.
Speaker 1:Well, that was the only way they was going to let him do that.
Speaker 2:This is what he said. Okay, let me set a scenario before I play this. So Angel Reese went know basically the post-game interview she had discussed. Uh, you know they were upset that they lost and she went into kind of like her home little bag about what was going on about. You know, the big thing everybody's saying is she was like I was sexualized and just talking about a lot of criticisms they received throughout the season. So this is what his kind of response was to wait.
Speaker 2:So her saying she was sexualized was in response to losing the game it was just her kind of like getting her shit off about the whole season okay and just discussing, like what's happened since last year and things like that okay, yeah I'm about to give a gender neutral, racially indifferent take.
Speaker 10:Now, if you want to say well, acho k to your take based upon gender, acho K to your take based upon gender, acho K to your take based upon race, I will understand that. But I'm about to give a gender neutral, racially indifferent take. Angel Reese, you can't beat a big bad wolf. But then kind of cry like Courage the Cowardly Dog. Because if you want to act grown, which she has. If you want to get paid, like you, grown, which you are, if you want to talk to grown folks, like you, grown, which you did post game when you told a coach for an opposing team, watch your mouth. If you want to tell people get your money up, then post game. When you take a l, you just got to take it on the chin.
Speaker 10:Nobody mourns when the villain catches a l. And, angel reese, you have self-proclaimed to be the villain. Shout out to you because you are the second best basketball player on the court and it was not close outside of caitlin clark, it was you, 17 and 20. Dog showed up. Biggest game, second biggest game of your career, absolute dog. But you can't under any circumstance go to the podium and now try to ask for individuals to give you sympathy. No one has sympathy for the villain you painted the bullseye on your back. Why are you surprised when people shoot at you? So if you want to act grown. If you want to pose grown. If you want to talk grown. If you want to talk to grown folks grown then you got to take the l like you grown because what frustrated me is when you want to be the villain but you want to hope for sympathy like a hero I'm.
Speaker 1:I find it really interesting that he said he was going to give a gender neutral, like race, nonracial take. And then you put two stereotypes that black women historically have had to go through being sexualized and also being the villain, being made as if we're like the angry black woman. Did he reference them being sexualized? And also, um, being the villain, being made as if we're like the angry black?
Speaker 2:woman. He referenced him being sexualized no, he didn't.
Speaker 1:No, um, not being sexualized, being made to be the angry black woman saying that she's the villain and she's the self-proclaimed villain, and she put this target on her black her back, and then also saying that like, oh, you acting grown, that's like that's a regular thing that black girls have to hear their entire life. I feel like that wasn't. Um, regardless of of what he did, say like that wasn't a take, that was, uh, that took out her gender and her race, that both of those had a lot to do with your take on angel.
Speaker 2:I think the bigger picture of what he was kind of just saying was like when you go into spaces like this, when you are an individual who are showing that, hey, you have promise and you also like the villain thing. She did say that Like I looked it up in an article. She said we're the good villains or whatever. That was kind of like what she was trying to say. I think a better word she should have said was like we're freedom fighters or something like that, saying like we're somebody who are fighting even though people don't like us. We're fighting for a better cause and a bigger cause.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we know. But when you say the good villains and all that, like I feel like as a black man and you discussing this and all that, like I don't know, I feel like it is a little weird to take race out of it when it plays such a huge part in how she's like perceived and everything.
Speaker 2:No again, I think the race part is good for the marketing of the narrative. I think you're right in in regards to perception to the outside world. It's definitely going to be, uh, something that stands out like. You can't ignore that. But I think, in general, when you're just going up there being an athlete, and an athlete that's branded to everybody, like you want everyone to buy your products, not just black white, you know you want to be marketable to everybody.
Speaker 2:When you go and you stay on this oh I'm tough, I'm, I'm talking trash.
Speaker 2:I'm about that when you go on the stand and you don't stand on business, people gonna call going to call you out for that. Like when Draymond Green doesn't stand on business after he do his stuff, people call him out for that. Like it's part and parcel to the fact that, like there is a light on this game now, like a bigger light than there's ever been, and that's one thing that I've been growing up women were asking for the whole time and I just feel like now, like like that you're getting the light, the popularity that comes with that is now something that's being negatively affected. Like y'all are sitting here pushing back on it in a way that it's just that's just become part of the game. That comes apart of when, when you have more light on it, these kind of criticisms come and you can't sit here and say you want us to criticize y'all differently yeah, because here's another, uh, paul pierce, who was discussing caitlyn clark, uh, and why he was impressed with you know, her feet and what she did.
Speaker 2:He caught a lot of heat for this too, but this is stuff that I've heard about white players all the time, like, literally, larry bird was thought about as great as he was because he did the same thing that he's about to say here it's not, it's, let me, it's beyond that key, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna just keep it 100, which we saw a white girl in iowa do it to a bunch of black girls. Well, of course that that made it like oh when the niggas anybody keep it 100, which you know.
Speaker 4:He about to say something I hear you like that's like, oh, she didn't do this to this to some other little white girls that was over here in Colorado or wherever. She did it to some girls from LSU who we thought were some dogs Defending champs, defending champs and put them on her knee and spanked them. Spanked them.
Speaker 2:And so that I love that. I didn't expect that, but that is the kind of conversation that happens when you have light on your sport.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:And I just keep hearing so many people getting upset and being like, oh, this is a disgusting conversation and putting people against each other, but it's competition.
Speaker 1:It's a storyline. They're definitely against each other. There's a storyline you have to sell here like.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, you have to get people to to kind of be excited about the game and how you do that, as you talk about it in these grandiose ways and you discuss it like this ain't nothing that they ever seen in this manner, like she's doing this against girls who. It's a big deal. I'm sorry when you have a white guy on the court and he's out here bopping guys up. You don't see that that often even in nba you can't tell me that there's only one white boy. He's not even american luca who's coming down and bopping up brothers every night like you. Yeah, there's some big guys who are white that can play ball and hoop, but they're not dribbling the basketball and doing the aesthetically pleasing moves like she is and like he is when it comes to that. And it's impressive when you do it against the other color, because, again, there was a whole movie called white man can't jump and it was about him, people perceiving him as a bad basketball player because he was white you know what I don't like?
Speaker 1:I just don't like how hype white people get when they finally have that one white that's good, great white hope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's always been a thing, especially in basketball.
Speaker 1:I don't like giving y'all that little sliver or something that little sliver, because y'all have all of this already. Y'all made the game. You made the game, you made the baskets, you made the balls. The men at the top, who own the teams, who are making the most money, are all white.
Speaker 2:For the most part. There's some minority in women owners and things like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, we love that. We love to see that here and there.
Speaker 2:Here and there, sprinkled here and there. But I just think that, like a lot of the way I've seen like a lot of WNBA players getting upset at the attention that these girls are getting in a way that they're like really upset, like somebody just blocked one of my posts Now I was going to read what she has said but I was like yo, the whole race thing goes back to Larry and Mike magic, like that was the biggest part that sold that game.
Speaker 1:That's why we're watching. That's why there was so many more eyes on it this time than the last couple games.
Speaker 2:Those, those narratives, all of the games no, those narratives are important Historically. All of the games. No, those narratives are important to selling the game Like a lot of people are going to get behind Caitlyn Clark because she's white girl.
Speaker 1:We all messy bitches that live for drama Talk about it. Whether you like to admit it or not, you're more intrigued by things when there's salaciousness going on around it. That's it. It's just human nature. That's why there's always traffic when there's a car crash everybody gotta take if nobody cared then we would all just keep going and there would be no traffic. But everyone cares because we're all messy bitches who live for drama I mean that's. That's what it comes down to I hate that.
Speaker 2:It seems like they're. I'm trying to see if I can find a take that I wrote where they were having this discussion, um, but it's like it's it's clear that that that a lot of the women that are viewing the game and are viewing this are like they're following in the men's footsteps in the wrong way.
Speaker 2:like y'all are looking at the media like how the men were getting in their feelings and responding, and even to the, to the fact where they're, like they're taking even some of the the light away from the girls. I I said in my little tweet I can't find it, but I said y'all need to be over-hyping these girls, even if they don't deserve it, because that's only going to put more light and eyes on the game. Yeah, Like this is what y'all like the fact that Paul Pierce is talking about a women's basketball game when he was slapping women on the behind at ESPN at the stripper parties. I don't love that. So I mean he was at a stripper party. Yeah, he was at the stripper party.
Speaker 1:I thought you was talking about, like co-workers, nah, hold on now that's more like what Warren Sapp was doing.
Speaker 2:Warren Sapp was sending female colleagues dildos and stuff at the office. Now he's coaching at Colorado. Oh my. God, but I'm trying to think. There was one more point I wanted to get into this in regards to the game. So this is what. So you remember the girl that we talked about the two personal podcasts? No, and you don't remember nothing we do on this show. Her name is taylor um. Remember that's taylor rooks.
Speaker 1:And then there was joy taylor oh yeah, so this is joy taylor. I don't remember the name of their podcast, but you should have just been like Taylor Rooks Podcast and then I wouldn't remember. Well, yeah, but it's not Taylor.
Speaker 2:Rooks, it's going to be Joy Taylor. She had this in regards to because she's on the same show with Emmanuel Ocho, and this is what she had to say about the game.
Speaker 9:I'll villains, I like villains. I like villains more than most. But why is she a villain?
Speaker 2:Because of what she does on the court. She says she was.
Speaker 9:Who made her the villain. She said she was the villain. Who made her the villain? Because someone made her the villain and it wasn't her. She was being herself and bragging, the same way that all athletes brag when they win, when they hit a big shot, when they do this I've seen it a million times but we don't talk about them the way that we talk about Angel Reese. So it's very easy to say that we're just going to eliminate the fact that she is a young girl and eliminate the fact that she is a black girl and eliminate the fact that she's an unapologetic black girl. We can take all that out.
Speaker 9:I love playing the we don't see color game. We could take all that out. I love playing the. We don't see color game. We don't see gender game. Let's do that. Do we talk about men who brag after winning or hitting a big shot the way that we talk about Angel Reese? I'll clear it up for you. We don't. We don't do segments about that because it's very common. We're used to seeing it. It's absorbed differently. There's an expectation of how Angel Reese is supposed to act. The reason we know that is because of the reaction that we got from her and when she did that to Kaitlyn Clark last year, people didn't like it. Men do that all the time. Joe Burrow, we could pull up so many clips of men doing this and this and this and this.
Speaker 9:We ask for a lot of authenticity from players. We ask for the real, we ask for emotions, we ask for interviews. We ask for emotions, we ask for interviews. We ask for, not the cans. Yeah, congrats to Kate and Clark in Iowa. I'm gonna make my decision next year. Appreciate you all coming out. We just didn't play our best today. You know we could have been better. We didn't play our best today. We could have on to Cincinnati, right? We don't like that, right? We want the real, we want the interviews, we want the authenticity, we want the emotion. But then, when we get that, don't do that, don't do that. Be the person that we've put you up here to be. Be the person that someone else said you were, because you gloated, because you did something that men do all the time. What I'm trying to say is she didn't make herself the villain. She showed up unapologetically herself, in the same way that men do all the time, every game every tuesday night in january?
Speaker 2:no, they don't.
Speaker 9:They don't get the same thing I don't get the same thing they don't get the same thing and that's why she's in this position.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying. She's calling herself the villain because she probably saw herself being called that, and then she was like okay, let me take this on and let me flip it and let me make it a positive thing, which is what she was trying to do. I don't like that. He took all that out because it, because it matters.
Speaker 2:It applies. I see that it does apply and I agree Because even LeBron did this. I don't try to compare her to LeBron, but LeBron did a villain arc when he went to Miami the first time. He was in commercials wearing sinew waiting. He was the bad guy. He talked about it the whole season. Everybody hated him and his team.
Speaker 1:But that's because people did hate him, right? That's when he left Cleveland. Yeah, niggas was burning his jerseys.
Speaker 2:But I think when you take that motion and you do what she did last year and talking the trash that she did, I think there's going to come to people that's going to not like that and they're going to speak and vocalize that, especially again with more eyes on the game. Yeah, and I think that's one thing where they try to run away. When we have this criticism, it's like, yeah, that's part of it, though, like that, her, her embracing it or not embracing it is her choice, and then what people respond to it is going to be their choice. And to try to act like people are somewhat in the wrong for having that. I think that's it's just.
Speaker 1:It takes away from the spirit of growing the game yeah, I think, um, regardless of the fact that there are people who are saying bad things, there are more people saying things in general, which is always good. There's more buzz around the game. They're playing um exceptionally well, which is why people are also talking about it. Um, yeah, I can't wait to see what happens next year, because she has one more year of, like college basketball, right no, she actually just uh said's going to go to the W.
Speaker 1:OK, so she's well she, but she did have one more, like she had to play one more year she was not her senior.
Speaker 2:She had a COVID year.
Speaker 1:So, she had another year. Ok but I want to know.
Speaker 2:I want to stay on one more thing about the sexualized part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say let's talk about that, because I saw that all over the place and I was very confused. Um, because when did she like, how did she say this? So what was the the context around it?
Speaker 2:so she was just, like I said, she was discussing uh, it was her post game and she was discussing, like you know what she felt about and you know how the season went, and she was just, you know, discussing some of the criticism that you know fair, unfair. That was about her and one of the statements that was getting most of the attraction was that she said I've been sexualized, um, and people were saying and disputing that because, if you go on, you know she did the swimsuit cover.
Speaker 2:She did Sports Illustrated, yeah, she had you know the bathing suit, cover whatever with that she's had. You know pictures of her and Salacious. You know outfits.
Speaker 1:She's young and hot.
Speaker 2:so she's being young and hot, yeah, but I think that I feel like that's one of those talking points that people try to be like, oh well, you're the one who's sexualizing her. Try to be like, oh well, you're the one who's sexualizing her. Like, yeah, but she put blood in the water. Like does not act like she. She went in there dressed like a nun every game and niggas was like oh yeah, I can see, I can see those curves under that big dress. You got under there like she gave. She threw some meat to the wolves and the wolves bit on it. I don't see the problem with that.
Speaker 1:I always um, I always think it's interesting because everyone can. You can sexualize anything for real, um, so I think it is up to the person what you sexualize like. I don't think, uh, other than the the sports illustrated, because there is like a sexual connotation to that. Like you want to be sexy, you're doing this for, like, men's attention and stuff. It's always been that the sports illustrated swimsuit edition.
Speaker 1:But like I saw people posting like her tiktoks and stuff like that. Like things where she just like is showing her outfit, she turns for a second and she happens to have a wagon on her like crazy, like absolutely insane, okay. Like she just so happens to have the craziest ass. So like it's because of what her body looks like, regardless of what she's doing, y'all are gonna sexualize her. So I think that's what her problem is. She's like bro, I'm not even like for the most part, if you, because I follow angel on tiktok after last year and everything that happened. I've been following her for like a year now. So most of her content is her like flexing. She's like look at what I got, bitch, I got money. Now, like most of it is not like body, like she's not a girly girl I mean, she has moments on tiktok yeah, she does have her moment.
Speaker 1:She she wears her little body suits and stuff like that for the for the most part like she flexing on niggas, like that's what her, her general aesthetic is did you see the video clip she had where she did the waxing and then like she pulled it off that? Was.
Speaker 2:That was the waxer that posted that yeah, but I'm just saying that was absolutely.
Speaker 1:She had to give the green light bitch that was absolutely insane on your part, because what that was, wow, like we saw the whole shape of her pussy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was literally like you could have bought a flashlight with that, like you could have just molded that to a flashlight that's crazy yeah I would have.
Speaker 2:I would have had to box that waxer if she posted that without my consent no, she clearly had consent, for she was sitting right there smiling and laughing with her yeah, but like well, yeah, she was, she was recording, she knew she was gonna post it we most people when in those situations, especially like high profile people oh make sure you don't post this, they'll say that in the video so that they have some plausible deniability.
Speaker 2:She thought, thought it was funny. I again, that's the only thing I'm just saying where it's like. I just don't like when folks don't understand like there is a degree of sexualization that happens with everything that we do. I think the better term she should have said was, instead of I was sexualized, she should have said I was over sexualized. Because then if you say that that gives that, oh, I had some doing in it, but y'all niggas took it over the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is what happened. Happens all the time. I don't think she had some doing in it. Let me take that back. Y'all niggas took it over the top. All she was doing was just like living her life, I mean, but with a fat ass, and happened to have a fat ass, like if she didn't, then she wouldn't have been sexualized in this manner.
Speaker 2:I mean we all can live our life, but I mean we can't act like it's only happening one way, because they're even sexualizing caitlyn clark. Oh, I don't know, I didn't know. I'm telling you, I'm seeing guys that's posting pictures of her and like hey, give me a second. Like let me explain. Like there's literally threads of guys trying to explain like, oh, she might be all right, I don't think so, but it's a lot of guys I have no idea what this lady looks like you.
Speaker 2:it goes to your point where you can sexualize anything you can. If they're sexualizing Caitlyn Clark, they're going to sexualize any and everyone that goes on the court.
Speaker 1:If you're a woman, you're going to be sexual. If you're a woman in the public eye, you're just going to be sexualized. There's always going to be one loser. It's like, oh Like. Well, I'm glad that you said it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you made that point and I'm glad you made it the way you did, because it kind of goes in. I was going to say this a little bit later, but we can do it now because it just flows so perfect with it. Um, so we can talk about joe button.
Speaker 2:You know we talk about him often on the show so he's recently had an incident, uh, with the girls from, or the women from, uh, good mom's bad choices podcast. So I'm gonna give a little breakdown of what happened and I'm gonna discuss why I was saying what yeah, and do you have a clip?
Speaker 1:there's no clip of this.
Speaker 2:I have a, I mean we can find her talking about it okay, so the the episode.
Speaker 1:There's no clip of like what joe said no, this is so.
Speaker 2:This is the story that she said.
Speaker 2:I'll just break her story down. So it's erica from the good mom's bad choices podcast. Uh, she was basically saying when they were at the show, joe does photos, so they do a little photo shoot before the episode goes, and out out there while they were getting ready to set up for it, joe, I guess, he either walks by or something happens and he mentions to her basically in a loud voice oh yo, you can get fucked. And she said it made her completely uncomfortable. Uh, she even went to the bathroom, had to regain her composure. She realized that they were there for a business reason overall, so she didn't really want to mess that up. So she ends up doing the whole episode and weeks later comes out and says what happened. What's kind of been Bro.
Speaker 1:Joe, what is good with you?
Speaker 2:You've had so many instances where you've made women uncomfortable, on so many instances where you've made women uncomfortable on so many different occasions, but at this point you would think that you would just shut the fuck up around women, just shut up I think it's kind of clear that with joe he does have a very clear or it's very clear he has a difficult time dealing with the sex worker from regular women or modest, more modestly thinking women, because these women talk sexual on a show. So I can see where you would blend that line of talking to the baddies, the sex workers, a certain way, thinking that they it could fly over here with them but you know that these, these are they're podcasters, yeah, like they Like they're there for business.
Speaker 1:So why are you? There's no lines that need to be, that are blurred, you just don't have any. He has way too much audacity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean his koof is is outrageous Like you just to say that in any kind of capacity, like it's nuts, and I think it's a learning lesson and I think that's the reason why I wanted to bring, because it is a learning lesson on how you want to discuss and have relations. Because I think what people don't we don't understand is men and women haven't been working together for a really long time, like, if we really break it down, women got the right to vote 100 years ago. Y'all really got into the workforce in a real way, working side by side with men, probably what? Maybe 60, 70 years?
Speaker 1:bro, regardless of all that shit, but no, it's it. Let me make the point of what I'm going to say. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:The fact is, there has not been a lot of the blueprint on how to do this in a real, proper way, because, if we keep it honest, most people get married from work, especially in America. They meet the people that they end up marrying and living their life with at work. Example me my parents met at work, so if there was an issue in regards to what could have happened or what would have been shunned upon, my dad could have had lost his job for their interactions and things like that. So for a long time, school for women was what? College higher learning wasn't a place for them to better themselves. It was a place to find a husband. So like we keep acting like oh, these rules have been set in stone for centuries, when they really haven't, we still in the first century, are trying to figure them out.
Speaker 1:Regardless of all of that, I feel like you know, as a grown man that has grown up in this era, you know how to fucking behave in a workplace professionally. You don't tell somebody they can get fucked, period. There are mad hr videos that you can log on to youtube and watch. My nigga, you can't say that in your workplace. It doesn't matter, like that you haven't been around um, that men and women haven't been working together for that long, that Joe's only around sex workers and this, and that, like my nigga, you literally like you shouldn't be around women. You should be quarantined from women. Women should only be paid to interact with you, period, if they choose to do so, because at this point it's fucking ridiculous. You're a fucking wild animal. You can't control yourself. She's walking back. You can get fucked. Like what the fuck? Are you not like 50 some years old, my nigga? How many times have you busted nuts to full completion and satisfaction at this point? Control your goddamn self. What is that?
Speaker 2:I would think that he would, just like after the olivia dope situation and seeing how that whole, that whole situation played out and him end up having to pay her out money, like I don't understand why you wouldn't, you know, learn from that occasion, bro, his brain does not work properly, obviously, like all you can do is you yell into a mic fantastically, regardless of if you're rapping or talking.
Speaker 1:But past that, keep him the fuck away from women.
Speaker 2:So I want to. I want to touch on that point that you were saying, because I was in some spaces where we were having this conversation and Joe ended up actually coming in a little bit later on and he was kind of talking about some stuff that we were talking about. But I won't get into too much of that that. But there were some women that were in there and they were both very supportive of joe.
Speaker 1:They were very big joe fans and it was interesting during the conversation they are able to get on stage in spaces while joe's in there. Well, no, this is before. No, this is before job on his knob.
Speaker 2:No, this is before joe got on stage, this is before we was all chilling and talking. But no, they were talking about it and they were on, you know, joe's side and they were talking about the women, because some things kind of leaked out about it. One they were saying that they were upset about when the the video actual came out, when the patreon actually came out, because they were trying to promote something while they were in new york and it didn't come out. Uh, after it came out, after their performance or whatever, so they, it basically wasn't able to be used as a promo tool for them so they were upset about that.
Speaker 2:Um, and then they're basically were just saying that there was just some kind of uh conflicts that were going on not too specific, but there were conflicts going on and they were trying to use this to essentially get their podcast bigger, get them into the algorithm and things like that.
Speaker 1:So that's what they were saying, nigga, I was uncomfortable as fuck at the place what you're about to get into what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:So the girls were on that point. We're like, oh nah, these hoes trying to get on these some I hate those type of bitches but it was crazy because once the conversation turned, then the man started talking.
Speaker 2:He started saying some things where, yeah, that shit's so lame, you acting like, oh, we talking one way and then you just get comfortable out of nowhere. That's crazy. This makes the women react. The women then say, nah, you can't say that. If I'm in here and I'm having a problem and you say something I'm not okay with, I can say I'm not okay, and it can change the whole energy yes, as soon as I say I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:It was so interesting to see. Once the man started to voice similar thoughts and opinions that you were uhousing, you started to see the real threat that that slippery slope of your conversation was going to have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're letting them, you're giving them the space to be like this, because I'm over here talking, I'm over here the whole time.
Speaker 2:I'm asking her. I'm just asking her questions, like I'm like so what's the timeline? What should it look like for her to not feel, for you to not feel like that, for you to not disinvalidate what she's going through and just to see, once somebody started actually taking a stance and opinion that could show that, hey, I'm easily threatened and can easily be hurt in that situation. It changed so immediately, but then they even went back to it and they went back to still defending it.
Speaker 1:Their whole point was oh, they're doing it for cloutout and that's kind of what they were able to sit on. The point of them going on joe budden's podcast in the first place was to promote their show and to um cast their personalities to a wider fan base. Second, the the reason that they stayed was that first reason she was uncomfortable. But she was like let me swallow this right and let me continue doing this show because that's the decision that she made right. She was like I'm uncomfortable, but I'm going to do this because I want to further my show and hopefully this uncomfortable moment will benefit in the long run. It did not. So now, not only was I uncomfortable sitting there the whole time and I had to suck it up, this shit didn't pan out the way I wanted to. I'm burning everything down.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's where it kind of like. I said it feels like, but you can see where people would say that's a disingenuous way to approach it.
Speaker 1:No, it's not Because they're not friends with Joe Budden. They don't owe Joe Budden anything.
Speaker 2:Well, technically he's been on their show before and there was a clip.
Speaker 1:They're co-workers.
Speaker 2:Well, they're not co-workers, they're peers. Colleagues or peers. You can probably be more in line, but he's been on their show before. But on their show she was being freaky in a conversation with him, a little bit talking about having a three-way kiss with her and her co-host, and also her co-host said she didn't hear what happened.
Speaker 2:Well, you said it was not on camera or anything but I mean just to say you didn't hear it at all kind of hurts, and the fact that she said it while the other girl was talking about it. She said like well, I just want to say I didn't hear anything, I was doing something else and I never heard or saw this exchange and a lot of people were saying that's a red flag right there yeah, because I don't.
Speaker 1:While I'm telling my story, I don't need you to be like. I wasn't there so I can't verify yeah, that's basically what she said this is a lie like that's. That's weird.
Speaker 2:I don't like that you don't feel like that was girl's girl energy no, definitely not I think, like I said, this is just important for just to have the conversation, because, as a man, you just got to be careful when you have any kind of conversations, because a lot of women are looking for you to say the wrong thing and then I was gonna say, um, I listened to good mom's bad decisions for a little while, for maybe like two months.
Speaker 1:every single episode is like that it's, it's a, it's a freaky ass. Like they talk about smoking, weed and having sex and putting things in their booty holes, like that's just, that's just the nature of the podcast. So, regardless of who is going to be on it, they're going to ask those type of freaky, freaky questions. That doesn't give you A green light to just consistently be on a sexual baseline with them. Like no, when the cameras are on. Yes, that's what we're talking about on Good Moms Bad Decisions, but you can get fucked While I'm like trying to go to the bathroom real quick and I'm just like minding my business is very jarring.
Speaker 2:No, I can feel you. I had another point. I was gonna make damn I should just slip my head, uh. But I just think my whole rule I don't, even when I'm around working at my job, I don't even really try to talk to many women as possible period.
Speaker 2:I said they try to. I remember one time I asked the lady to pass me something and she thought I said something completely crazier than that. And it's's just like, for some reason some women are looking for that, though, like I'm going to be real with you. Some women are looking to come up off you and get either an HR check or get more consideration and empathy at work, and they will use you as a man as bait for that. They will bait you into conversations that can then turn around and now you looking like the freak boy, like I just again, the best, my best opinion is treat women like children. All right, don't talk to them about if they're not your woman. Don't talk to them about sex. You just keep them at at arm's length, and that's just the best way to do it. Because it was funny in that conversation, that same gentleman who was saying the stuff that triggered the women. He said the way that you're talking is childish and I said, sir, I know, I know where you're going to, I know where you want to land at, but it ain't gonna end where you want to. You ain't gonna be outnumbered, so just don't even say it.
Speaker 2:But that's the main thing, like, even when it comes to the angel reese thing in the conversation, where it's like if you aren't operating with women as a mind freight of emphasize, emphasizing them, infantizing them, it's going to be, they're going to manipulate it whenever they want and they're going to say that you're a problem anytime, even if you do the exact same thing to a man, because at the end of the day, we're not the same. We're not. We should respect each other in a similar boundary, but we aren't the same, and that's where it's like it comes to. But, at the same token, if we're not the same, you can't expect the same results, and that's where a lot of conflict comes from. Because if it's okay for Joe, if you're saying it's okay for Joe Jow to not say and speak like that, then you could also say it's okay for a man to say oh well, you don't need to be wearing things that are going to provoke other men to do that.
Speaker 1:No, just control your fucking self. No, it's not the same. It's not being provoked.
Speaker 2:That's not. You don't get to operate in that if we're not the same, because, just like a child, a child can do something that you're going to say hey, I'm not going to hurt you, so you won't have to listen to me when I explain that to you.
Speaker 1:There are rabid dogs that can't. I'm not saying that, that was just an example that don't have cognitive functions.
Speaker 2:That was just an example. You're going to tell somebody not to put Okay, I'm sorry, Some men are rabid dogs Like y'all have cognitive functions. Y'all are making the what to be trained. Yeah, just like there's some men who aren't being trained and and you can't say that it's training, when we say that everybody's equal, because it is everybody equal, that the the interaction that I have with the man, I understand it can end in violence and I could die, but when a man has that with a woman, that threat is only one-sided.
Speaker 1:I wish it was double-sided.
Speaker 2:Women are the only ones. Who's going to feel that.
Speaker 1:I wish so bad it was double-sided. I wish men were like if I talk to this woman, I might die.
Speaker 2:Most men aren't going to feel like that.
Speaker 1:I really ooh, life would be so much better if men thought that they could die by as a result of of talking to us crazy, putting their hands on us, anything of that nature I really I wish that was a. Thing you say that, but you really don't, you really outside and nighttime would be so much more fun if it wasn't for men.
Speaker 2:And then I feel like if everyone had an equal fear amongst each other, everything would balance out you know we more treat each other like men, and then we'd be way distant and way more unapproachable, because part of that vulnerability that men have with the women is also we need population control anyways.
Speaker 1:People are like less babies.
Speaker 2:Still, my argument stands. That's not how that works either, because you still need people to mine the resources and then everyone's murdering on both sides. Can't get anything serious with this one.
Speaker 1:As I said children. Example children we're literally like this is for entertainment. They're just big kids.
Speaker 2:They're just like big kids, you know. So, like I said, you just got to wait until they're older for you to be able to do things Generally.
Speaker 1:Genuinely. I wish men had that healthy fear in their hearts, but they don't, which is why they have so much audacity.
Speaker 2:Y'all wouldn't want that, because it comes with other things Like the healthy fear also means you have to defend it Like means you have to defend it like it's going to be sometimes where somebody's going to jump that's going to try your fear, and you would not want that, because then you have to stand up for yourself in that manner what do you mean?
Speaker 1:try your fear when? Like when would somebody try a man's fear?
Speaker 2:there's a lot of just. When you have a response like that, it is fight or flight okay, it's not always run.
Speaker 1:Give me an example of like when a man's fear would be tried so when a man's trying to intimidate you and you try. No, no, in this situation, right in my hypothetical situation, if a man had an equal fear of being killed by a woman, yeah, like when? When would his fear be tested with?
Speaker 2:and that would end in something bad so a woman cuts you off and instead of the normal routine where it's like you see a woman, you just drive off. You might see, because I have the same fear, I may not also respond that same way of being scared. So I'll have a fight or flight response and because, like a man, if a fight or flight response happens with a man and I'm not afraid to fight you, I'm going to go after you. Population control. So I'm going to be like, hey, I'm going to cut you off. Population control. So I'm going to be like, hey, I'm going to cut you off. Hey, bitch what you doing in there, get out your fucking car, come out here and talk to me, like when you see them crazy ass instances where them niggas really done blacked out on a chick in traffic. Like that would be more common occurrence, Because now you also have to put the factors that you're still smaller than me.
Speaker 10:So now, instead of looking at you like a woman, I'm just looking at you like a smaller man.
Speaker 2:So now I'm really on your ass that's what I'm saying that sounds entertaining that sounds scary, like that sounds nuts I wouldn't I would disagree but no, I just think that that's just an important conversation to have in regards to that. Uh, before we move forward, uh, to this one just say RIP to band man Kevils kid. They said he was shot 15 year old to what I'm raising.
Speaker 2:What I wanted to ask is so band band man Kevo is known as, like one of those Instagram influencers with the money and all that other stuff and there was a lot of accusations saying that his kid was living in the hood. When I hear that, I just I don't assume these men and people that had the amount of money that y'all think that they had.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was probably flexing and putting on. He probably had a lot of money that wasn't his Also that, and then these niggas don't be liking their kids, so there's also that. Have you thought of that?
Speaker 3:These niggas don't be liking their kids. I didn't think that part.
Speaker 1:They don't be liking their baby moms and they don't be liking their kids. So he was like you know what? Fuck that little nigga that's. Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean he said he was looking for the shooters afterwards.
Speaker 1:He has to because your son died, and you're going to look crazy if you don't say that you're doing that you don't have to do it.
Speaker 2:I just felt I could just see a to probably fund the lifestyle that he's acting like he's living. He probably got to be on the grind. So much, uh, with the music.
Speaker 1:He do music right, I have no idea who I feel like he does.
Speaker 2:I feel like he does music too, but just to be on google it, the kind of grind that he's on. I just can't understand where you're being away and you were just in hope that the other parent, the custodial parent, is not putting that child in a position where he has to make those kind of choices or decisions, because he could be paying his child support and trying to make sure everything's straight. But nigga 15, he don't got to pick up the phone, like at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a, he's a rapper from south side chicago so I mean, again it's.
Speaker 2:I think that they were saying he was staying in like kalamazoo michigan is where his son was at. So I'm not sure if that's like the, the real projects or whatever you know the real hood in michigan, but I could just see in a world where it's like that's kind of that was kind of rough, like I just it's, it's tough, like I ain't gonna give him like the ghillie effect, because it's not like he over here telling niggas to stay out the street or anything, but I could just see where it's like he could not have, uh, a type, any type of control in that house and all he gives is just a provider of a check and I just feel like that was messed up for folks to just kind of throw that at him.
Speaker 1:You know, off the initial yeah, we don't know um what that household was like or anything of that nature, so yeah, so, uh, let's get into all right.
Speaker 2:So we watched the reality show jerrod carmichael man, I'm gonna say just my first initiative, my first feeling after watching episode one was this felt like the humiliation ritual for what he did to the Golden Globes.
Speaker 1:I don't remember the Golden Globes, so he was the host of the Golden.
Speaker 2:Globes and he pretty much just like shit the bed his whole performance. He was just like talking trash. He wasn't really being funny. He didn't really have like a anything written down for his performance. Basically he had nothing prepared. He was just kind of just being snarky the whole time and that's why this feels like they were just. They were just doing his way of kind of just a shit on him a little bit.
Speaker 1:When you start, you can get into it. So Gerard Carmichael has a new reality show on HBO, max. Well, max now, and the first episode is out as of now, the last special that he won the Oscar or whichever one. I think it was.
Speaker 1:Emmy. The last special that he won the Emmy for, he let us know that he confessed his love to his best friend, la Di Da. We assumed it was Tyler. First episode he's sitting down with Tyler, with the whole production team cameras, lights, things of that nature.
Speaker 1:If y'all know Tyler the creator, I have been an Odd Future fan since probably like I was an Odd Future fan since like 2009, 2010,. Right, I was like watching that man's YouTube videos, all of his little like vlogs and stuff. So I feel like I, from the outside, know his personality very well. That man is unserious as hell, like highly unserious. So he tells Tyler he's like I think I'm developing feelings for you. Tyler goes ha ha ha, you dumb bitch. What, what do you mean? So Tyler, basically, like what you said, gave him out by saying ha ha, you dumb bitch. Like ah, this is a joke, you're joking, right. And then, a year later, gerard makes this whole thing and doubles down and he's like so are we doing this? Like I confess my love for you. It's been awkward since then and it was just so like awkward to watch because Kevin, like Kevin Tyler does not want Gerard at all. He orders food and then he's like he finishes all of his food. He's like licking his fingers, which is like all of the body language was so unserious from Tyler's part on Tyler's part and then call me a stupid bitch I did
Speaker 5:that Tyler laughed like.
Speaker 4:I did, I did.
Speaker 1:He's like, yeah, and I stand on it and I just brushed it off, I know, I know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all right, I know yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get into just a little bit what was going on before they led up to this. This nigga, Jara Carmichael, has an infatuation for the small white boys. He was cleaning house.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was after.
Speaker 2:That was before. That was the end of the episode.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? He interviewed Tyler in the beginning he had the whole.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's not how that happened.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it was the middle that he was sucking on the white boy's toes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was literally the end of the show. Was him talking to Tyler in that scene that we just discussed? So I just thought it was nuts how crazy he was going for the white boys. He had the grinder going nuts. He had probably like three of them. They just showed they came already ready to jump on it, and so it kind of confused me because it seemed like he was giving top energy. Even when he was sucking the toes there was still some top energy. So my question was which one was the top between him and tyler? Who do you, who did you gather, was the top between those two?
Speaker 4:who would be the top?
Speaker 2:how would they do it? Would they have to like like rock paper scissors for they?
Speaker 1:both give me verse energy. Honestly, I feel like they would probably just think they switch?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's wild the switching. You ever seen a shameless? You ever watch that show?
Speaker 1:a little bit depends on what season you're talking about.
Speaker 2:So in the later seasons the um, the brother, the gay one he ends up like dating transgender man and they're both supposed to be tops so they end up switching the whole season. That's like their whole little conversation. I can't believe they never watched that show that they seen there.
Speaker 1:It was incredibly Caucasian.
Speaker 2:So I mean it got his shit off. They had that black girl on there. I watched for the first three seasons After that.
Speaker 1:It was very repetitive and then I was really like I couldn't watch frank's shit anymore. He was annoying as fuck, but um frank was the best team I feel like, yeah, I knew you would think that, um, that falls in line with your personality very much so uh that shit was so uncomfortable to watch like.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been the friend in that situation that either wanted to make things more or somebody wanted to make things more with you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in high school I had a crush on my best friend and he was like nah Kicked you back in. No, not kicked my back in, but he definitely let me down very easy.
Speaker 2:He told you he wasn't his type.
Speaker 1:No, he literally had never, and I don't think till now, has dated a black woman.
Speaker 2:He just let you down easy and he said hey, not you, baby, it's where you were born. That's what he basically had to say to you. I don't think I've ever had someone come to me, like most of the girls that I've been friends with, like they didn't really want the relationship. It was more like the physical Like. It never was like, oh, we should be boyfriend-girlfriend it usually always was.
Speaker 2:We was already doing physical stuff and then she's like well, you might as well be my boy now, like you're already up in it, like that's how most girls are with it, like that's how y'all be, y'all be. Like, oh, you're already up in it, so you might as well cuff it. That's what we called it back in the day. You might as well cuff it. But I did have an instance where I tried to be the friend and I just never got it, got to places, but it didn't go crazy. We didn't become a couple, but there was a physical attraction. Like I said, it just usually ends like that for me, man, most folks just wanted the guy that looked like J Cole and they didn't want to keep him.
Speaker 1:No man Happens j cole and they didn't. They didn't want to keep him. No man happens. I feel like everyone was talking about um, was talking about tyler and gerard in this, but the thing that stuck out to me the most was him laying on that couch and how content he looked with the with that white twinks fucking toes in his mouth. Sir, like I don't know, I just feel like for african-american advancement, there was no reason for you to put that on camera. Sir, like I don't know, I just feel like for African-American advancement, there was no reason for you to put that on camera. Like, why did you put that on camera?
Speaker 1:I think Like why did you feel it necessary to show us the compilation of white men that she was fucking Like? I just feel like that was weird. After showing us that you were rejected by this black man that you love so much, was it like like I don't know what it was?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean again, we won't argue about that how the clips came out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you're wrong, because he started with Tyler coming into the thing and sitting down.
Speaker 2:But go ahead but they didn't talk about anything until he just said went into, they did stand-up stuff, but the thing I was all in between, you weren't paying attention.
Speaker 1:I was back and forth I was watching the whole thing. Okay, you're wrong. Well, I was in back we'll add a clip in to um to um.
Speaker 2:Verify that I was correct no, because you're not gonna want to, because you'll be wrong. You'll be like don't put that in there, I don't want that in there. That's gonna make me look crazy. So let's get into an actual conversation about this. What I think that?
Speaker 1:I don't not been having an actual conversation about this no, we, we've been brushing over the main topic.
Speaker 2:That's really the head here, because you even kind of brushed over what you said. Do you think and I think it's kind of clear because I do that black men, regardless of their sexual orientation, wholeheartedly value the acceptance, even if it's being with a white person, like a black guy? The look of dominating a white body is attractive to black men with power who have assumed a little bit of power in this world. That is what this stems from like. That's why I'm pretty sure he was the dominant person with everybody he's with. I'm sure that's the same way tyler didn't pick him. It has nothing to do with the fact that I like you or don't like you. It's the fact that I don't value the body that you're in they've both come out and said that they like twinks.
Speaker 1:Twinks, historically, are little, gay, white, specifically men, and they, they, they're tiny. They're always bottoms, like twinks, can't be tops like period, point blank. You're not a twink if you're a top. Correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah so all speak.
Speaker 1:Speak to the white body part and dominating the white body so yeah, I feel like if you are a black man who has been especially that looks like them right, like they're not conventionally attractive men, they were probably made fun of, rejected over and over and over again by other black men, other black, probably just black women, because then made fun of by all of the whites because y'all are dark-skinned, lanky, african-looking niggas. And then now y'all have money and then what was exotic and out of reach to you now is within reach and you can make it do what you want, basically. So that's probably enticing in some way shape or form. I don't know if that's what's going on with Tyler and and Gerard, but both of y'all have.
Speaker 1:Tyler has made it glaringly obvious in his music. In his interviews he said he looking for white boys to fuck. He said he was trying to fuck Justin Bieber for two years and apologized to Selena Gomez. Gerard had this grinder compilation of little white twinks coming into his hotel room. Like obviously these men feel like the proximity to whiteness is more successful and then dominating that, bending it over and fucking it probably is a whole different feeling.
Speaker 2:That is is something that I will never experience in my life I think it's so tough for people to kind of accept tyler as being any kind of like gay or bisexual everyone keeps thinking that he's joking.
Speaker 1:Still To me.
Speaker 2:I think the nigga's asexual. That's how the nigga comes into me. I think everything up until the action of sex is where he. That's where the line is drawn at, like, everything is so funny and amusing up until doing it, and I think that's where it just all stems from. So that's why I think he couldn't even really know how to respond, because the proximity to sex was so close in that, in that, you know, they could have just left that room and got busy if they wanted to. You know, gay niggas really don't need too much in gay culture.
Speaker 1:The hookup culture is crazy.
Speaker 2:They don't need too much of a turnaround time, you know, for the knockdown so bottoms do. I was gonna. I was gonna ask you about that because you would think that if somebody is coming into an exit like that, you would kind of be a little more mindful.
Speaker 1:No, bottoms are generally just always mindful, but they don't get that stereotype.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? They get the stereotype like they ready to bust the bussy for anybody.
Speaker 1:No, I mean they're always mindful to keep their shit clean so that they can bust it open for anybody.
Speaker 2:Oh, so I thought you were making it seem like they had discretion with their busting.
Speaker 1:No, no, gay men are hoarse.
Speaker 2:I think that was the biggest takeaway from episode one.
Speaker 1:No, no, the biggest takeaway from episode one was that Gerard Carmichael has a humiliation kink.
Speaker 2:You think that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Like obviously, because why did you get those cameras? And then, like it was just so many, it was more than one stand up special too. So, like Between him talking to Tyler, he's plugging in, like him at his stand up specials talking about like what's about, to what we're about to see next. So he has talked about this in smaller groups over and over again. He said he said that multiple times that he sent the text to tyler, locked his phone or put it on airplane mode and like, and then, like, went on stage or like did that and then came to record this like my nigga, you, you like that feeling of like anticipation and anxiety and all like you.
Speaker 2:That needs to be I think he only did it once no, he did it twice.
Speaker 1:He did it um, once when he was going up on stage and then he did it another time right before he went to his therapist and his therapist was like, oh, we love this, but it was two times because there was another um, when he asked tyler to go to the emmys with him.
Speaker 1:He, he asked him, put his phone on airplane mode, went, got up on stage and then read the reply no, he didn't, there wasn't a reply until later, but he picked up his phone and looked at it while he was on stage and the people in the audience were like giving him because um advice and stuff.
Speaker 2:When he asked him about the emmys, that was the part where he just was like I gotta shoot and I can't make it, but congratulations, type thing.
Speaker 1:He asked him about the emmys and then, right after that is when we had the whole compilation of grinder boys, because he was sitting with the white boy and he was like um, I need a backup date to the emmys in case. The person that.
Speaker 2:I actually love.
Speaker 1:No, he was sitting next to him.
Speaker 2:No, he asked. You're confused, I'm saying. He asked Okay, let's just get off. No, he texted Tyler and asked him. Everything he said with Tyler was over the phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah everything with Tyler. And then right after he sent the text he did the stand-up special thing and then after that was the Grindr thing because he was sitting next to the guy and then he was like just in case the man that I love can't come. This is important it's not important because you're wrong about the timeline no, you are all right um this nigga gonna look stupid as fuck.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not, I'm you're then you're just not going to look like anything because I'm going to protect you. This is what I do. We forgot to acknowledge too during that tyler conversation. Uh, I think I said I'm big straight, you cut me off. What do you? You cut me off.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You cut me off before I got to that I was talking about. They were eating. And then he licks his fingers after he's done eating and he asks him is he going to finish that food? And he's like I don't want that, I don't want none of that. I'm big straight on that. Big straight, don't want none of that.
Speaker 2:I feel like that was just cut like that to make it seem like he was trying to shit on him, because that was like well, but it was like big straight is nuts yo I'm big straight bro, I feel like tyler did that on purpose, because I never thought that tyler was indirect until this and I was like, oh, tyler is very avoid, he has a very avoidant communication style.
Speaker 1:He does not want to, he doesn't want to address this. He was like I'm just going to fade out of your life forever, which I feel, you, my nigga, as someone who also has a avoidant communication style, attachment style.
Speaker 2:OK, since we're on the gay topic, um adam 22 um dropped a crazy ass post yo. I'm about to read this joint yo all right I'm proud to announce my first gay scene. For many years I've dreamed of what it would be to shoot with one of the bros. I've decided to stop holding back and live my truth. I know some of you don't like this decision, but I hope you will choose to respect my choice. Big thanks to my scene partner, Michael, for letting me tear that ass up.
Speaker 1:Was this like an April Fool's thing?
Speaker 2:Can't wait for y'all to see this content. I don't know. He went full ballsy with it. They dressed up and did a photo shoot. Did he post it on April 1st? Yeah, it happened on April 1st.
Speaker 1:It's a joke, then it's obviously an April Fool's prank.
Speaker 2:Well, to say that it's obvious isn't giving fair criticism or fair analysis to what was all going on analysis to what was all going on.
Speaker 1:So be, to be fair. Also, I can't analyze what was going on with adam 22 because I don't know what the fuck is going on with adam 22, so what I'll?
Speaker 2:say, is a regular human but no, there were some things that went on was going viral with him. So the first thing that happened was that michael guy. He was seen walking around his neighborhood with his dog, so that sparked. The thing was like hey, adam 22 is being seen with a gay porn star. What is that going to lead to? We already know. He let people fuck his wife. Is he gonna fuck a dude then? He's seen on the the no jumper show, the news show, and he's uh no jumper has a news show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do like a little weekly news show that they have okay and he walks in and he like bends over a little bit and you can see he do like a little weekly news show that they have. Okay, and he walks in and he like bends over a little bit and you can see he has like a thong on underneath his pants. So then there's more, you know evidence.
Speaker 3:I feel like that up to this and then I mean, yeah, I'm just saying that there's.
Speaker 2:you could definitely feel that way. I'm saying to say that clear cut that is staged when he other stuff been leading up to it is why people felt it was so believable. I just think Adam was just went COE, though he went full COE what?
Speaker 1:does that?
Speaker 2:mean Content over everything.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know he's just fully engaged into. This is what people want to see. This is what's going to get engagement. Even if I don't do it, the mere discussion of me saying it on April Fool's is going to get people to talk.
Speaker 1:Did of me. Saying it on April Fool's is going to get people to talk, did he?
Speaker 2:Joe even was saying stuff about this before, and so people were going at him.
Speaker 1:Did he put a release date in the caption or anything? Or did he just?
Speaker 2:say that it was coming. Yeah, he didn't put a release date. I don't think that's actually happening. He put a blog afterwards talking about how he convinced the world that he was gay. He's just talking shit. I just thought it was funny. That's the way that he just put so much effort into this into making people really think that he was, you know, had this going on.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure he's just gonna put that gay nigga with another dude on plug talk like yeah, probably every plug talk isn't him and lena, like it's other people on there too, so I'm pretty sure that's what he's just talking to. Business about them, because a lot of people don't know the gay porn business is the most lucrative.
Speaker 1:It's highly lucrative. It's the most lucrative. If you wanted to start jerking it real quick on the OnlyFans, I would let you, if any dude who gets into porn.
Speaker 2:Doesn't think that 85% of your audience is men, gay men, buying your stuff.
Speaker 1:You're a fool, start showing that booty hole.
Speaker 2:They don't want the booty hole. The niggas that's paying for it want to see you stroking they trying to see nut videos.
Speaker 1:So were the women, honestly.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, but y'all got that from the gays.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Wanting nut videos. There was no woman wanting nut videos until the gay niggas said that that's what they was exchanging. The woman never asked me that until I seen gay niggas talking about it on the timeline, exchanging the nut photos and the nut videos. Just being honest, you probably was the freak-o, but you be with the gays though, so you already you was hitting.
Speaker 1:You know what? My best friend's birthday a gay man was yesterday and I was going through all my videos and then there's this one video and I'm out with him another gay man, and another gay man and I'm like I need some female friends, because why am I always out with a bunch of gay niggas?
Speaker 2:That's why you was into the sending the nut videos, Like you was already with Bro. My best friend was in the culture.
Speaker 1:He would just be like look at his dick. Look was in the culture. He would just be like look at his dick, look at how thick and beautiful, this dick is. I don't even want to pretend like I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2:So that's how there's nothing on the phone. That's how straight I am. Don't fucking laugh like that when I say I'm straight.
Speaker 1:I just think it's funny. I've had enough.
Speaker 5:What the fuck is wrong with y'all really? Three pieces, three from three people I have never met in my life, from three publications that are supposed to be about uplifting black people, which is all I have dedicated my life to doing shit. What hubris do I have? You people literally cannot stand that someone has studied and is speaking on what they study, that someone has read and is speaking on what they read. You can't stand that someone loves us, that someone loves us so much that their passion is so exemplary and is exuding through the phone that it touches people who literally have never felt love that much and they don't know how to process it. That's what you're feeling.
Speaker 5:I want to send all the love to everyone who has shown me love, but you people who are continuing to attempt to break me down, you will not break me. You cannot break me. I am loved, I am anointed, I am touched, I am working through the blood of our ancestors. You will not break me. It is so sad that you are so broken, but maybe the effort that you would take to try and get some clout and you know what, let's say I did get broken Y'all would be the first ones to be like see y'all be doing too much. No, big up to all my strong black women who are supporting us.
Speaker 1:We love you.
Speaker 2:The rest of y'all can suck up period. So I was watching this. I was man to seals. If y'all couldn't recognize by the voice, she was getting mad because the griot there are multiple articles that came out that said that, oh, she's too difficult, and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And her content? Um, she put out a video saying that, like she's never invited to things, you know, like she was nominated I don't know which award, um, she was nominated for, but she was nominated for an award and then didn't get invited to the show I think it was the naacp, yeah something like that.
Speaker 1:So, um, she complained about that. There were a couple articles that came out, and then she this was her, her reply to all of the articles that came out, and I I don't disagree with her uh, did you read any of the articles? No, I didn't read any of the articles, so I read they're all the griot yeah, I read it was the griot.
Speaker 2:Uh, like I said, this title of it was amanda stills is not a victim, if anything. Uh, her, she's a victim of her own hubris. So, basically, the main thing that kind of went on was, like it's spotlight that she does do a lot of discussions when it comes, like you know, white supremacy and things of that nature, but what at least this article was doing was highlighting, like, her lack of self-awareness, because like, basically, like one of the combos that she pointed out was like she was like oh, if you don't have a passport, you're a loser. And when folks got on her about it, she kept trying, like double down on it, basically trying to say like, oh, I'm not talking about people who just buy a single nike suit, I'm talking about people who are buying multiple nikes and jordans. You need to get a passport and if you don't have a credit card, you're a loser, and if you don't, you know. Like she was basically doing shit like that and it was like lady, well here.
Speaker 2:She is basically saying she has spoke a lot about, you know, the predatory tactics of credit cards and things of that nature. She was just saying, like overall, though, that amanda just lacks self-awareness and that's why people don't like being around her. She doesn't see how she comes off as very I don't know the word she said. Let me just read the last little article the last sentence the last paragraph.
Speaker 1:I've never been around her. I just listen to her content sometimes, so I couldn't tell you anything about that, but I'm interested. She also said that I think that's why she highlighted that all three of these articles are from people who she's never met personally in her life. So if they are about like how people feel around her, then they don't have their own first person experiences to basically, this is the last couple paragraphs she said.
Speaker 2:what uh also comes along with a large platform is recognizing that not everyone is going to agree with you and instead of trying to play victim when this happens, take an opportunity to clarify or course correct would be a better option. But ego is a hell of a drug and ego is where Amanda Stills is stuck. Amanda Stills is not a victim of anything but her own hubris and until she recognizes that, she will always be crying every time anyone says anything about her crying every time anyone says anything about her. So I think she's just saying like a lot of the criticisms about her are coming from the fact that she just lacks a level of self-awareness when it comes to the people or in the things that she said around her. They even noted like insecure uh, there was a lot of people saying they didn't like hanging out with her or being around her after work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:And I mean the the thing about here and I can just tell this person has an agenda when writing this. The biggest thing is the fact that she lied on that black man. She said that there was a black man who was assaulting women or like basically making women uncomfortable. She uh doxed them, she put his picture I think it was a doctor and shit and they come to find out like none of it was true and like she barely apologized about it and I think to's where a lot of people like they put their bones into. That's why I don't rock with Amanda Seals. This article looks like it has, like I said, its agenda with this person when they talk about certain things. But they didn't bring that up and I think a lot of folks that's.
Speaker 1:That would have been something solid to bring up. I don't think she would have been able to refute that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the big thing where a lot of people who have an issue with her that's where they really can you know, sink their teeth in because that shit was messed up. She didn't even really try to apologize for that after she did that and that man, like he, lost a little bit of business in regards to that People were, you know, they looked at that dude a different way. Some people still think he did it, you know, even though most of the information came out and cleared his name.
Speaker 2:uh, another thing, too, that she has sided with sean king when they was talking about uh tamir rice's mom's drag sean king on several occasions, but I feel like the instance that she put out was when they were talking about the activists and, uh, she was basically saying she had an issue with, like people trying to make money off her son, tamir Rice's mama.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And she had spoke out and basically put the eye on Sean King and basically Amanda was like oh, we shouldn't just be focusing on one individual and this isn't, you know, this calling out isn't going to do anything to help things move forward. But it was like no, this is the nigga that's trying to, you know, cash in on my son's death. I'm not trying to let that shit rot, no. So I think that was another part too, where she, she rubbed people the wrong way and again, that's the lack of self-awareness.
Speaker 2:So I mean I just I thought it was interesting the article when I read it, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:I didn't know about all that extra stuff that was going on around her yeah, she just doesn't seem.
Speaker 2:She seems like one of those women like I always joke around. I like I and I describe with like she reads too much bell hooks books and when you, when you read too much bell hook, like you gotta understand bell hooker, she's a single bitter woman. You're gonna end up like her she is.
Speaker 1:She's a very intelligent woman and a scholar okay, and you can be bitter.
Speaker 2:It's like, just like in a womanist icon just like a man can have a whole bunch of money and be in his you know tower alone and by himself, shit. The same thing you could do when you, you know, searching all that information and trying to find you know the reason why maybe the person should be the victim every time. Maybe you're gonna talk about this man chance like you're gonna get into him okay, yes, chance.
Speaker 1:The rapper is getting a divorce from his wife, the same wife that he made a whole album about loving the same wife that, apparently, this is news to me. Rhetoric was telling me earlier that he um fell out. He fell out with his manager because of this garbage album about loving his wife. So not only did you fall out with your manager, the guard, the album was garbage, and then you lost the, the subject of the album. So what was the point of doing it in the first place? There was absolutely no point. You're like the. The level of critical acclaim and everything that you gained from acid rap was up here, and then it was like lowering and lowering and lowering and lowering it, lowering with every project after acid rap, and then this one what was it called coloring book?
Speaker 2:the last one, it was like big day or something like that yeah, whichever one was just so bad so what was going on? Just to kind of talk about with the manager. What was going on is the manager sued chance the rapper so, like december 2020, he had basically came out and this is like the big day was the album everybody hated but, he sued um chance because basically he was saying Chance was he was supposed to get.
Speaker 2:He basically had Chance in a 360 where he was going to get 15% of net profits and he also said Chance didn't pay him for unreimbursed expenses, like $2.5 million in expenses. He went in also to say that basically this is what it says right here in the lawsuit Pat. I'm just going to say that basically this is what it says right here in the lawsuit Pat. I'm just going to say that because I don't feel like saying his last name, pat. That was the manager also claimed that.
Speaker 2:Chance fired him and replaced him with his father and Taylor Bennett, who's his brother, due to fan disappointment in the most recent album, which was the Big Day.
Speaker 2:The underwhelming fan support for his associated tour was also another reason he canceled the tour for his associated tour was also another reason he canceled the tour and basically they said the relationship began to fissure when chance in 2019 announced the july release date for the album. And then they go into what happened in regards to the lawsuit. But basically, yeah, he he was probably telling him hey, I don't want you to release this album, it's not going to be what you think and he heard the songs, he was like this shit, this shit is garbage and he came out anyway, dropped it.
Speaker 2:This was a Pitchfork article in 2020. Then also another Pitchfork article, chance, then in 2021. So about two months later. He sued him stating a violation of trust in April 2020, which is the termination of their friendship. Among the allegations, he also said that he used his reputation and success to promote his own wine, which is called no fine print and record company, which was nice work. So basically you know you're doing a double suit, thing that you got to do, anytime that happens sue counter sue.
Speaker 1:I hope Chan starts doing drugs again. Oh shit, I do If the family and the wife and all of that I mean. You stopped doing drugs, but you were with her for a while. But like I don't necessarily need acid rap too, because I know you probably can't pull from that place that you were pulling from. You're working with different producers, for some reason you not with Save Money anymore. For some reason you niggas that she was running with. Um, now you're a father.
Speaker 1:oh, and then that's what you're focused on. Amazing the, the, the, the daughters, the children probably, are being raised beautifully. The music is garbage and apparently so was the marriage right, they didn't announce who divorced, who, uh, who initiated it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:The music was garbage and so was the marriage. I will say, though you know he let her drop the announcement, so that kind of. To me it shows that he's probably in the winning seat, and so that's why he letting her kind of dictate because she didn't say nothing crazy. She didn't violate, she acknowledged the separation.
Speaker 1:Didn't violate, she acknowledged the separation she's never I don't think she would have, from what I've gotten from the little bit that nigga was out there doing them dirty, she would have kicked that nigga back in because she said something about the dance.
Speaker 2:Remember when he got?
Speaker 1:the dance, yeah, but she's just never given me like I'm going to drag this nigga in public for real, Like she seems like she's going to handle her shit privately.
Speaker 2:I think, if need be, she would Because, like I said, when the dance and him on the beach came, it wasn't like she was saying leave my husband alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think that's because that was a public spectacle that she had to address publicly. This is a private thing, man this is be this.
Speaker 2:That was the slap in the face of all the other stuff that goes on behind the scenes. You're not gonna be with somebody who's touring, who's going out and doing these things, who's an artist, and not expect him to have other lovers, but when you go out there and you get videotaped having some chick dance on you, it's a slap in the face and it's disrespect and the chick looked like she, not even with it.
Speaker 1:Like he, she looked like his hips were not giving I mean that probably does some disappointment too but I think it's
Speaker 2:more, so just more embarrassed now I think the the more embarrassment comes where it's like when, when you generally have women in that life for the most part I'll probably say 60 they don't care if you're actually cheating, they care that the cheating isn't public in in front facing they would say that's, that's how I would feel.
Speaker 2:Like they just don't want her to feel like she can text you regardless wherever. Like they just want you to feel like there is a distinction, in a way that you conduct yourself around me, Act like a side bitch. That's not, or I mean it's just. It's not about him. It's about how he's hiding it from you Because she could be violating, violating. But if it's on another phone that he don't bring in the house, who cares?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I also no. I feel like, for this would be, in my case, for me to. If I come into a situation you already rich, but below you have other women. I just need you to like, make it like for my ego. I just need you to behave like I'm the number one also I mean, and I need you to and I need you to.
Speaker 1:I need you to make everyone else fall in line and act like number two, number three and number four, like they need to act like it, so they can't be just blowing up your phone when they know you home. They know you home, they know your schedule. Fucking, don't call this man.
Speaker 2:I mean like but that's the only difference. Their violation doesn't matter if you don't see it, and I think that's where a lot of this time it comes from, where I'm not- hiding anymore I'm not, I'm not doing the things, I'm making it obvious. Hey, I'm leaving right now. I'm not even saying I'm going to the studio or if I am going to the studio, like I'm very clear that it's just. You know what's happening here it's not no kind of hiding. It's not like I'm sitting here giving you a courtesy FaceTime in the studio.
Speaker 1:Oh, we out here cooking up babe, and then also randomly like, also hypothetically, the bitch cannot be in the same state as us. I'm sorry, she gotta be in the next state over. You can have a bitch in all of the border states, but I'm the this state bitch.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying you definitely would get your heart broken 10 times out of 10 yo. Yeah, that's why you think a nigga can't not gonna have some in-state pussy. Like you, sick as fuck nigga, work too hard not to have some, some additional in-state pussy.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying if you come home after if you, if you come back to this state, you need to come to me, you to me. I don't want you to have other options.
Speaker 2:I just think it's hilarious that his manager tried to warn him like hey, don't put your eggs in this woman's basket when it comes to your art. And now he's almost completely destroyed his career.
Speaker 1:Why would you do that, though?
Speaker 2:I mean, according to the album, he was in love.
Speaker 1:Nobody no rapper has ever benefited from being in love musically, aren't not even R&B artists.
Speaker 2:Mary J Blige, as soon as she was happy, we were like this is garbage so what do you do when you get into that position where family is actually messing with your passion, art and career in that way?
Speaker 1:you make a decision. There's nothing you can do but make a decision, because obviously we've had this argument a couple times obviously you do have to make a choice, uh, of whether who's who is going to thrive the, the part of your life that you're pumping the most energy into, is gonna thrive, the. So if you decide that you're going to put your focus into your family, your career especially if it's something like rapping is going to suffer. Definitely you're going to have less time to be able to engage in your passion. And then, if you decide to engage in your passion 100%, you're going to have the family that feels like oh, dad wasn't there, he was never around, he didn't care about us, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:We have all the things, but like I don't know this nigga you know, I think a portion of it is the fact that it's not that he's picking one or the other, he's letting them bleed into each other and I think that's what's negatively affecting it, because there's not a lot of people like what we do. A lot of people can't do where they can feel like they could talk to their significant other and and yell and say crazy shit to each other and talk about the past and things like that on a public way like this isn't unique. So when you bring that in there you you probably can't make the song like my wife's a stupid bitch. She all up on my fucking head like some shit. That might really slap dick was right there.
Speaker 1:But um said what dick was right there? Yeah, it rhymed better with bitch than head, like I didn't feel like dick was that that, just that just didn't satisfy me at all, like it was right. I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not the rapper, I'm just saying like the the point is that he can't make a song about shitting on his wife, even if he's in the great creative space to make that song.
Speaker 1:And then I feel like you can be in a loving, amazing relationship for a very long time and have a long, successful rap career. Snoop Dogg is an example. Obviously he was rampantly cheating on that woman, but that's not the case. We're going to put that aside.
Speaker 2:Also, the music wasn't always hitting.
Speaker 1:It wasn't. He was with her for a long time and had a long-standing career, and then now it's not hitting anymore. But I wanted to just say Snoop Dogg has addressed his wife in so many songs. Every time he said what it do, baby boo. That was like his little shout out to her. So you can still do your little shout out to your wife.
Speaker 2:That's a subtle way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like y'all know that's y'all thing. But then you can like. I think Snoop Dogg didn't let the fact that he was in a loving relationship with like multiple children with the same woman for a long time bleed into his music. He still let it be known that he loved her with his little shout outs, but he didn't make a whole album. Nigga, you could have made a song or two, a whole album.
Speaker 2:I think even with your example, with the Snoop thing, like that's not what that's having a hint of inspiration, like when you making the whole album for your wife, she has literally cut her arm open and bled into your art like she's a part of it in a real way, yeah she has.
Speaker 2:He was, he was able to really push that away. So let's just think about it. You put your heart into something and it's about your wife and people say it's bad. That's going to fundamentally make you question everything else that you're doing like you're going to look at the relationship in a way and you can see what relationship going to compromise if, if the art that your muse inspires is perceived to the public widely as garbage.
Speaker 1:You're going to start perceiving the relationship as such you're gonna, as an artist, if you take your artistry seriously, you're gonna be like I need a new muse.
Speaker 2:It's not even just I need a new muse. I'm going to view the relationship like the art had reflected, like this is what you made me create. Yeah, and it was garbage so I can't continue to be with that. So hopefully he doesn't like do nothing crazy, I don't mind you getting on some. You know some.
Speaker 1:You know little drugs here and there as long as you're, do some shrooms, shrooms, bars I mean, I hate when niggas get sober, though that's always terrible, gucci man. Sober. I'm happy for you, sir. You look way healthier. Is he really sober? I think he's just not doing hard drugs.
Speaker 2:I think he's not really sober.
Speaker 1:Well no, he's smoking weed and drinking and stuff the most annoying.
Speaker 2:Sober nigga is Steve-O. Steve-o was top tier when he was fucked up tier? I don't think he was well okay. The most annoying fucked up nigga is steve no steve-o when he was getting fucked up, was that nigga? Now, mr clean, steve-o is the worst. Did you not hear what happened with him and bill maher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like that wasn't well. Let's tell people go ahead. So, um, steve-o he. He refused to do an interview with bill because bill was smoking weed. I think the best thing he's declined. I think we better say he refused to do an interview with Bill because Bill was smoking weed.
Speaker 2:I think the best thing. I think it would be better to say he declined to do the interview with Bill because Bill refused to not smoke weed during the interview.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is like I don't know how shaky Steve-O's recovery is and how he might feel like it's fragile and he might feel like one wrong turn and I might be back in that space. So, which is probably why he felt like Bill, I really I can't be around this because I'm not strong enough to be around this yet. And then Bill was like fuck you, I'm going to smoke my weed regardless, regardless. So I I don't think it was crazy that I I literally commend steve-o so much for refusing that interview, because it shows us how dedicated to his sobriety that he is I'm gonna be honest, man, I, I hate this, this notion of how sobriety even operates in the community that it is in like.
Speaker 1:But addiction is is is a disease.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that it's not I'm not saying it's not a problem as long as you're operating with the foundational mindset that addiction is a disease. Everything built off that let me hear what you have to say. I understand that addiction can be a disease for some people.
Speaker 1:No, it is a disease for everyone. Everybody's not the same.
Speaker 2:It's not the same for everybody. My argument is not even about that. My it's not the same.
Speaker 1:It's not the same for everybody. My argument is not even about that.
Speaker 2:My argument is about how they're taught. So when they teach you in AA like I've been to meetings and stuff because I have friends who got like in trouble so they had to go to the AA meetings and they wanted me to come with them I've gone to those experiences the way that they teach you and what the framing and the building blocks are is that you are this weak person that can never defeat whatever you're battling and going through you can never have to have coping mechanisms it's not even that you can't even understand like moderation isn't a thing.
Speaker 2:There isn't kind of anything like where you can tell people like, hey, this is how you practice, uh, resisting when you have too much like there isn't anything like that, it's just looked at as this is the, the evilness that I have to fight, and you just cannot engage at all. Yeah, and it's also heavily religious. So that's another problem I always have with it Anytime that you have to kind of incorporate religion.
Speaker 1:I didn't know AA was that religious.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, especially in the South, because I've never Especially in the South, it's heavily religious, like it's usually like Bible verses are started to start the meeting and stuff like that. So to me I have a problem when you frame people as a way that they're always going to be defeated by this condition and when a lot of times the drug isn't really the problem, it's the consequences that come with the drug.
Speaker 1:meaning, like the self-imposed ones, like making it illegal, making it that you can't get certain jobs to do it, like those be the real causes of that, I think the the addiction being a disease is not the drug being illegal and stuff it's, regardless of if it was legal, regardless of how much detriment it's doing to your life, you cannot stop doing it yeah, I'm, and there are some people who do have that.
Speaker 2:I don't think that every person who goes through aa, who has addiction issues, has to look at the vice as this all-powerful thing that if they have a bottle right in front of them, they can't do nothing.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can say that because you haven't studied this. You, you're not um. I've listened to other people talk about addiction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we can listen to people talk about things all the time, but it doesn't mean but it doesn't mean that we have the, the, the foundational knowledge, the nuanced knowledge around, all of the things like. It doesn't mean that we have that. So when, when I hear from medical professionals that addiction, alcoholism is an addiction and it's a addiction, is a disease, and then it's also like what whatchamacallit? It can be passed down, it's hereditary, there's nothing you can do about it. So when you put all of that into play too, then the framework around why AA tries to give people these coping mechanisms the way they do, is the um, them saying that you can't fight against this. This is something that is inherently you. Like I understand that 100 percent and I don't think that we can sit here and be like, oh, you can fight it, or you can, you can have a different mind state, and blah, blah, blah. It's not that.
Speaker 2:I'm not doing that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the fact that it's only taught one way to me already puts up a red flag, because that means let me finish, I'll just let you talk, right? That means that there's already an agenda being behind that. I would argue. A lot of those doctors say that because they don't really want to put in the real work that needs to be done to help people have moderate relationships with drugs. I think that there are some people who can have a relationship where it is abusive, where they're using that, and then they can dial it back and get to that. We've seen it in other instances. These people just didn't go off the deep end. So we have this conversation where, again, once you, once you go into these programs, they label everything and handle everything like the same type of problem. And I'm saying that no, everybody doesn't have the same type of problem in relation with their advice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think you can say that, yes, you can.
Speaker 2:I'm not the only person who said this, I'm also regurgitating information that people who study this, who actually go in a little bit deeper, will tell you. Like there's uh the doctor, um carl hart. He was on a breakfast club. He was a dude who said we should make drugs legal, like he actively was doing drugs and got onto there and weaned himself back off the drug because he was studying this stuff and was being disciplined in that and he had a, a group around him that could help him with that. And I'm saying if that could be a large part of other things, like if folks could go to job, get jobs, like when we was uh heavily illegal around the country and people couldn't get jobs because of weed. You stop allowing them to get jobs. They can go to work, they can pay their bills and they're not looked at as a delinquent because everything's all good. But when you put barriers on people when they enjoy doing particular things, then that's happens.
Speaker 1:I feel like we're not talking about the drugs that you can do and still function.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about anybody that who has a uh, an addiction or have a problem. Where they can they do a over they over? They're too overzealous in their performances like that when they get in around that kind of environment that they can dial it back If they've been taught and they go through actual, real training. That's not just telling them, oh, you're a weak bitch, that every time you see this drug you're going to fall victim.
Speaker 2:So you have to be this stupid prick every time everybody's around, it has it aa is not the only recovery um program.
Speaker 1:That's the only recovery program that we're generally um privy to, and that's the only one that you have experience with, because that's the one you went to with your friends. But I'm sure there are other recovery programs that are not centered around religion and that aren't centered around weakness and things of that nature, but I don't know. I this that's something that I would need to look more into. But like I'm still gonna stick to my um, my general statement of like it's a disease and it needs to be treated as such, and that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 10:Roll a doobie, Steve-O Loosen up.
Speaker 2:Stop being a bitch.
Speaker 1:If you feel like you're too weak to be around drugs, regardless of the seriousness of the drug in the public eye, then like get up and walk the fuck away, like that's fine. And if you feel like, for your sobriety in the long term, that you fully hard know cannot be around other people that do drugs and drink, do that and I love that for you, I support that and I love that for you, I support it and I love you for that.
Speaker 2:It's funny how like and you're not the only person that does this, but like when folks hear my arguments on things they like, for some reason think that I'm trying to say like people have to do one way or the other.
Speaker 1:No, that's not what I think.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying that you're not, I think. No, I'm not saying that you're not. I'm just saying that's a common thing where it's like I'm not saying. I'm saying that the option to be able to find the middle or gray area should be presented more than a hard pass or hard stop on any particular thing. Let's see what else. How did you care for Lotto's performance with TLC? So if y y'all didn't see there was the iHeart, was it Music Awards? They had a TLC perform, and who did the left eye performance was Lotto. So shout out to Chili. Chili used to come to my store when I used to be a manager.
Speaker 1:Chili and T-Boz killed it and then fucking Lotto came out like I seen a rainbow yesterday, girl what is happening.
Speaker 2:I don't think her voice, I don't think her voice fit that no, it didn't um they were too desperate, y'all sounded like.
Speaker 1:She sounded like the most atlanta bitch rapping that verse. I didn't like it one bit. I feel like y'all could have just um, let it play in the background with like a, a picture, a picture of her up on a big screen in the back, and we would have liked that just as much as Lotto. Lotto wasn't necessary.
Speaker 2:I think they were just too desperate to have an Atlanta girl to replace Left Eye when they should have just had Lil Ma. Lil Ma killed her on that Lifetime movie. Lil Mama oh okay, you don't remember that. She was in Left Eye.
Speaker 1:I did remember she did do a good job playing Lil Mama.
Speaker 2:That was the best thing she ever did in her career.
Speaker 1:There are so many other artists that you could have brought out that could have did the little bouncy cadence that Left Eye did with that verse so much better than Lotto did. I like Lotto. I'm not hating on her in general but like her voice and her cadence for that specific song just threw me off very much and the atlanta twang was very apparent in that verse and it threw me off so much I think it's not necessarily because left out from atlanta, it's not necessarily because Left Eye is from Atlanta.
Speaker 2:It's the way that she sounds when she talks.
Speaker 1:No, but when, like she, has a very aggressive.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about Lotto, though Lotto has a very aggressive way of speaking.
Speaker 1:That, and then Left Eye was like bouncy and she kind of sounded like she was. I seen a rainbow yesterday.
Speaker 2:Like it was. It was yeah. Just I'm saying, you're saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Lotto voice sound is too aggressive to bounce in that manner.
Speaker 1:She sounds like such a bird.
Speaker 2:I don't think she sounds like that.
Speaker 1:No, I do it's not even like.
Speaker 2:To me that's not even what she sounds like. It just sounds like an engine revving up sometimes.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about like, the, the, the way she ends her words sometimes, and not just the way she says words, is just very like, like, definitely like a bird. Like the fuck is you talking about? Like that's?
Speaker 2:and then she rapped it just like that, like she was rapping the songs, just like this period, with this energy that's the only way that she knows how to perform it, though, like you, gotta remember lotto and I was like what lotto is like? She's been doing this since she was a little girl like she has.
Speaker 1:She's been here for a long time, she's been molded in a particular way.
Speaker 2:She is like. You know how people say. Drake is a caricature of what american rapper is yeah that's pretty much how she grew up in rap, where she's creating a caricature of what's popular right now. What's going to get attention yeah, that's a white woman for real I mean, if you look at her like, she looks like a white woman who got some, some work done that got a tan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially, I don't want to. Um, I don't want to criticize your blackness. I never want to do that to any actual black people. If you black, for real.
Speaker 2:I think you black. If there's a man, you do it. You do it to michael porter jr who the fuck is that we talked about him before, but I just thought it was hilarious because, uh, he was. Remember he was on the uh, the pivot show and he talked about the girls team and them not getting the same about his men or whatever yeah, so he has his own podcast and he has lana rose on there, so you know who lana rose is I don't, she's a corn star.
Speaker 1:The plug is the only one I know yeah, but she's.
Speaker 2:She's not lena's lana. I meant to say lana roads, she's a corn star and she. So the reason why this is so funny is because michael porter jr is like super maga, like he's like a maga type is he? Not black. Yeah, he's still.
Speaker 2:Oh my god um so he's super maga dude and so it's so funny that him and her having this conversation. Let me just put the little clip that was going around because they were talking about. She was just talking about what it was like basically being getting ready to set up for a scene and also, too, is funny because she's alleged to be Blake Griffin's baby mama. Ok like you never hear that where she talked about it was a girl that talked about dating somebody from the nets and got her pregnant and he don't really fuck with him no but this is the girl that said that, lana rose, people are going to be surprised that we're on a podcast together.
Speaker 7:I actually came across one of your podcasts that you used to do and you were talking about just the dark sides of the adult film industry and the porn industry, which you used to be a part of, and it really just I was really interested and, honestly like, inspired by your story. So let's start off just with your childhood.
Speaker 8:So there's a lot of things that I've come to terms with recently that I didn't even realize were wrong in my childhood and I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. And I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. I had to go back and think when was the first time that I had this feeling that like no one loves me, and just like overwhelming emotions, to the point where it feels like you have to?
Speaker 1:hurt yourself. The average life expectancy of someone I meet.
Speaker 8:You just meet someone in the lobby and like you're not attracted to them at all and it's like like okay, now you have to. You have to fuck them and pretend that you like it. No, that's, definitely tough.
Speaker 8:Imagine like you just meet someone in the lobby. Hahahaha, hahahaha, hahahaha. Pretend that you like it. Imagine like you just meet someone in the lobby and like you're not attracted to them at all and it's like, okay, now you're not attracted to them at all and it's like okay, now you have to. You have to fuck them and pretend that you like it that's definitely tough.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine that. I cannot imagine that one bit, oh shit that's crazy yo but that's really like I. That's why I low-key commend corn stars, because y'all's ability I disassociate on a regular basis without even trying, but y'all's ability to completely disassociate, like I'm sure y'all have to, because there's no way that there's a man inside you that you fully don't want to be there and you're we talked about yourself. That's mostly just drug induced shit, though it is because they talk about that a lot too.
Speaker 2:They take a lot of drugs it's got to be like that yeah, it just got a little loose all right, we got one more thing we got to get into uh man, shannon, man shannon is shannon messy boots shannon is a another messy bitch that lives for drama like because I just been noticing like some of his like tactics he's been doing in regards to like engagement.
Speaker 2:it's like he's looking for that next person to like take shots at somebody because it kind of I was noticing it because he just interviewed glorilla and them shits was shit. Was I just gonna say that glorilla shits his eye? She did a good job with'm just going to say that Glow Real, them shits was all right. She did a good job with those, Whoever, with that doctor. You need to sign him up for you know another round. Them shits was all right.
Speaker 1:I can't stand you, them shits was all right, Like you just going to keep saying that.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying but what the fuck? So, shannon? So shannon was basically like um, he asked about dj academics and kaisa not. He asked about that beef. Uh, and I noticed too when he was talking to offset, he asked about joe, but but in both of those clips the, the title of it was literally the first question and it was dead in like the first two minutes of the video. The rest of the video was them talking about other shit. And I'm just feeling like yo, shannon, what did you do? Clickbait, that shit is all the way, like you literally just saying niggas names, just to get to write it down so you can put it on the clips.
Speaker 1:Niggas be complaining about us doing a little clicky bait whatever with our captions. And then Shannon Sharp whatever with our with our captions, and then shannon sharp, with 3.4 million views, is doing the same shit. We gonna keep doing that. Y'all can suck a dick. I'm sitting there looking.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, this nigga is wild. I'm thinking, okay, he gonna ask follow-up questions, and then I remember this is fucking shannon sharp, so the nigga's never gonna try to really dive deep into the shit no but they gonna out here make a whole click. They're gonna try to make a whole of you off of a nigga name you mentioned for five minutes and didn't say nothing of merit about that shit is that shit is?
Speaker 2:devious, because they know that's what people are gonna come to want to like listen to but I mean, can you get the niggas that's gonna talk about it like, damn, this nigga go anytime they got. He also asked glow about, uh, the damien lillard shit. And we know he's married. Uh, well, he's in the process of getting a divorce, but that shit was crazy too how messy it was and she just went with her. Oh, at the end of the day, they go in.
Speaker 1:I'm like come on. She said that uh multiple times throughout the interview whoever is the her media doing her media training?
Speaker 2:that was the expression that they was like.
Speaker 1:You know, anytime you get into a tough question, just say that At the end of the day, the day going in, yeah, and anytime she has a question that she just doesn't necessarily have the answer to or doesn't want to give the answer to, I need Shannon to find somebody who wants to talk shit about somebody on there, because the question. Not everybody is like Cat.
Speaker 2:The line of questioning is I mean. Monique did a good job too. The line of questioning is not good enough to be able to extract what you need to be, Sir Messy Boots, and right now?
Speaker 2:No, it's not he has to step it up, because right now it's looking nasty, it's looking like elementary type shit, it looks like you just like trying to bait the conversation, and maybe he was doing that beforehand. I didn't really notice it from the clips I watched and the interviews I watched with shannon sharp, but it just seems now more, more prevalent more prevalent than ever that he's out here searching for that moment with somebody again, because even when he's talking about Johnny Manzano, he was trying to get him to the shit on the other quarterbacks from Texas.
Speaker 1:He mentioned it in the video in the Glorilla interview because her first three hits were so big. And then he was like he chasing that again, just like, how, you know, everyone was telling me I'm not ever gonna have another Cat Williams, ever again, and he was chasing that again. So, yeah, he was. Definitely. That's what he's trying to do. He's obviously trying to chase the, the hype that he got from the Cat Williams interview, and that's something that naturally has to happen. No, you can't chase that.
Speaker 2:I'm saying that's what you really want to go. You got to talk about, like how sexy sexy red I mean how you feel about sexy red being around drake and all that shit like because then that's because there's more beef there, because drake has talked about megan, she's going on tour with megan, because that's why she's doing all this promo.
Speaker 1:They're going on an arena tour yeah, they, um, they're dropping a single together soon it. It should be coming out soon-ish.
Speaker 2:This has to be big.
Speaker 1:On a Soulja Boy sample beat. I saw a tweet that said the female rappers done, found a formula and the formula is Soulja Boy. Yeah, for real.
Speaker 2:It's just taking old music and doing a cover. Because nobody, for some reason, when y'all do it and y'all. And what's the other nigga name? Nle Choppa when NLE Choppa, for some reason, when y'all do it and y'all. And what's the other nigga name? Uh uh, nle chopper when nle chopper.
Speaker 1:And the women do it, don't nobody complain. Did we talk about nle chopper's little um clip on the last? I just want to say really quick about nle chopper he ate that little, uh, that little clip up it's.
Speaker 2:It's giving cunt, it's giving like zoolander um, it's very like campy yo, I like it, this nigga this nigga look 17 though in an attempt to try to make a a song about heterosexualness, you made a gay anthem. Cunt, that shit is the gay man anthem what?
Speaker 1:And I wasn't even talking about the song, I was talking about him performing it at Rolling Loud.
Speaker 2:The video of him performing it at Rolling Loud His performances seals it as a gay song.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I loved it so much, Like it was so visually pleasing.
Speaker 2:If I was a bad bitch? I want to fuck me too. Hey, I want to suck me too. Hey I me too, hey, I want to suck me too.
Speaker 1:Hey, I want trap me too. Like, like, listen. First of all, we know. Sticker said I want to trap me too yeah he, we know the, the little hook it's.
Speaker 2:It's a little catchy catch and then putting me too in.
Speaker 1:It is kind of slick, diabolical and he was like that shit is slick, diabolical dance. He danced that he was doing with it. I like it. I can't lie to you.
Speaker 2:That shit is horrible. It needs to be stopped.
Speaker 1:I'm probably not going to like the song. I've never liked the NLE Choppa song ever in my life, but it was really giving Zoolander tea and I was like this is giving kind of high fashion, Like I like it, Period Done. It seems like Azealia banks wrote that song for him. Azalea banks definitely wrote that um new song that dochi and jt putting out together, because dochi, dochi is, we talk about sons of button. Dochi obviously is a daughter of banks because that flow the donna. I was like that is azda-da-da. I was like that is Azealia Banks and it's okay because though she's young and she probably grew up listening to Azealia Banks and she probably was inspired by Azealia Banks, I hope Azealia don't drag her for fucking filth and I hope Azealia get on this remix Instead of being a messy bitch, please. That's all.
Speaker 2:They said she changed up her comments on Beyonce. I was hurt. She didn't stand on business.
Speaker 1:Oh, so she liked the album.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she didn't stand on business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like take it back. I still, there are a couple songs on the album that I've heard that I like. I'm not going to lie to you, I haven't given the album a chance because it's a country album and I hate country music and I don't care whether it's coming from Beyonce or not. That's all I like the last album and the album before that and the album before that, and then I'm going to like the next album, but this one specifically not for me. You're not going gonna get reviews from this for me, but that one song bounce on that shit, bounce, bounce on that shit, bounce, bounce on that shit bounce.
Speaker 2:I was like I just don't want to hear any of y'all who love in these music beyonce putting out, questioning anything a man do, saying you too old to be doing. That that's all I just want. I just want consistency across the board. I need to. That needs to stop.
Speaker 1:First of all, we're going to always make exceptions for Beyonce, and then I'm going to continue to drag men, period, and that's the end of that.
Speaker 2:If her old ass can say I want to pop on it. Don't be mad when a nigga talking that fly shit on his music. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm going to continue to drag these niggas and uplift Beyonce. So what you're saying makes no sense and there's no reason to say it.
Speaker 2:No, there's plenty of reasons to say it.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm exposing, I'm going to continue to hate all of the men except for you, and I'm going to expose you for it. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2:Because I could never hate women.
Speaker 1:Whatever Like you can expose me for hating men all you want. Expose me.
Speaker 2:I want to be exposed. I'm going to do the expose, expose me. You look like when Ray J wanted that nigga to break his glasses and he said break them right now.
Speaker 1:And then he broke them immediately, and then he snapped the fuck out of them weak ass Very easily too. That was. Speedy.
Speaker 2:No, I don't like that nigga.
Speaker 1:You be hating on.
Speaker 2:Speedy and his interview style with speedy. No, I don't like that. You be hating on speedy and his interview style. That shit, corny. That was the funniest. That was his best interview moment.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get out of here speedy kind of does interviews like not um, not war. That's what he reminds me of. What do your thing? He was disrespectful, he just does he no that was disrespectful as fuck.
Speaker 2:the only thing, narwhal, will go to your first best friend and get the socks that that nigga gave you, but that's what Speedy does too.
Speaker 1:Speedy asks questions about random childhood shit and rappers all the time be like how the fuck did you know?
Speaker 2:that? Does he bring the item with him too? No, no, no, he don't bring items that nigga Narwhal. Don't do that then.
Speaker 1:I said he's definitely inspired byardwaur, though he has a similar interview style. He'll bring up something from Mad Long Ago. And then every speedy interview I've ever watched the person has been like where the fuck did you get that? Information. He got it from Nardwaur. Okay maybe he's stealing info, that's still a source, so that's how my statement stands.
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