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April 19, 2024 Talk FNF tv Season 1 Episode 39
Drake Responds, Is DJ AK a GOAT, and Look into America's Jail Cell - Talk FNF TV
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Apr 19, 2024 Season 1 Episode 39
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Get ready to confront the complexities of friendship and the unforgiving nature of the rap game, as we pay homage to cultural icons and unpack the latest in celebrity gossip. Joined by our insightful guest, we delve into the disparate legacies of bell hooks and Kevin Samuels, discussing their impact on society and the media. Our candid banter doesn't stop there; we also dissect the originality of online influencers, correct some past details, and analyze the fiery landscape of the music industry – all while navigating the tumultuous waters of fame and hip-hop beefs.

Ever wondered about the inner workings of the prison system or the survival skills honed behind bars? We share raw, firsthand insights on the realities of jail dynamics, mental health struggles, and the ingenious innovations of the incarcerated. From the trials of maintaining friendships to the secrets behind the laughter of comedians, our conversation is as diverse as it is profound. We go behind the curtain to reveal how the seemingly mundane can lead to a world of complex social dynamics, affecting everything from cultural perceptions to the way we laugh and learn.

Wrap up your understanding of the intricate web woven by media figures like DJ Akademiks, as we challenge the status quo and question the moral compass guiding today's content creators. The ripple effects of the O.J. Simpson trial and the concerning rise of misinformation in the age of the internet serve as sobering reminders of the power of narratives. This episode isn't just about entertainment; it's an exploration of society itself, examining how past events continue to shape our current reality and how figures with influence shape the cultural landscape we navigate every day.

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Get ready to confront the complexities of friendship and the unforgiving nature of the rap game, as we pay homage to cultural icons and unpack the latest in celebrity gossip. Joined by our insightful guest, we delve into the disparate legacies of bell hooks and Kevin Samuels, discussing their impact on society and the media. Our candid banter doesn't stop there; we also dissect the originality of online influencers, correct some past details, and analyze the fiery landscape of the music industry – all while navigating the tumultuous waters of fame and hip-hop beefs.

Ever wondered about the inner workings of the prison system or the survival skills honed behind bars? We share raw, firsthand insights on the realities of jail dynamics, mental health struggles, and the ingenious innovations of the incarcerated. From the trials of maintaining friendships to the secrets behind the laughter of comedians, our conversation is as diverse as it is profound. We go behind the curtain to reveal how the seemingly mundane can lead to a world of complex social dynamics, affecting everything from cultural perceptions to the way we laugh and learn.

Wrap up your understanding of the intricate web woven by media figures like DJ Akademiks, as we challenge the status quo and question the moral compass guiding today's content creators. The ripple effects of the O.J. Simpson trial and the concerning rise of misinformation in the age of the internet serve as sobering reminders of the power of narratives. This episode isn't just about entertainment; it's an exploration of society itself, examining how past events continue to shape our current reality and how figures with influence shape the cultural landscape we navigate every day.

Speaker 1:

Tell me why. Bell Hooks. She died in December of 2021. And six months later, guess who died after her? Who? Kevin Samuels, the polar opposite. It was just like when Joker lost Batman.

Speaker 2:

I don't think anything that DJ Academic does is that groundbreaking. If DJ Academic wasn't being a messy go online, it would be another being a messy go online, like nothing he's doing is pioneering anything. Nothing he's doing is groundbreaking. Nothing he does is unique.

Speaker 1:

You're acting like he's really like, like this, this, uh, amazing journalist like I said the millie bobby brown, uh saying she getting text messages from drake and stuff like that's stuff that you can use, but are you righteous in yourself to be able to throw that stone at another man? He without what's the Bible verse, he without sin, throw the first stone. Are you able to be that person?

Speaker 2:

I don't think so, kendrick this podcast is sponsored by graffiti tax. For all your tax preparation needs, you can go to graffititaxcom. We're going to put the link right here. It should be somewhere. And yeah, you can head to them during tax season. And if you have any financial or tax preparation questions, head to Graffiti Tax Services. They're our new sponsor. Thank you to Graffiti Tax Pre graffiti tax preparation services.

Speaker 1:

that's it all right, man, we back at it. You're well. First we got to start off, we got to do a little retraction, I got to clean up some things. Here I do a little correction. So in our latest little clip, terrence howard video that was going insane. That Auntie Terrence should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 2:

I'll be eating up these thumbnails, but.

Speaker 1:

I did. I want to make a correction, and in the story that I told about his father, I said that he killed a Santa. That was incorrect. He killed a father of three that was in the line with him. It was said that he allegedly cut him off or tried to cut lines, and that's where the altercation came from and that's why the 11 months is what he got there, yep. So I just want to make sure that some of y'all, though in the comments you're weird.

Speaker 2:

Extremely. I didn't think we were going to have that reaction to that content.

Speaker 1:

It was just like y'all was supporting the funny math. I thought that was questionable.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm not about to argue the foundations of mathematics with any of y'all in the comments.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. And then I thought it was kind of weird too. It was like they was kind of saying he was under attack. Somebody said he was under attack and we were being mean to him. I don't think him having to go back to work is him being under attack. You know what we didn't add in there? It's so fucked up. This nigga tried to get out of paying his taxes because he said that, uh, he was a son of a slave and that shouldn't.

Speaker 2:

He shouldn't have to pay taxes oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, nah, I fuck with that so I mean, I'm just saying like I, I fuck with that. I think he was getting his shit off with that one that was one time the math was mapping. Yeah, that's why he got his own math. He don't want to pay taxes.

Speaker 1:

That's what hey you said that the last episode. I think you said, his math got him fucked up. Oh yeah, all right man we got to get to the music man, talk to him.

Speaker 4:

Drizzy. Let's go To the rest of you, the nonbelievers, the underachievers, the tweet and deleters. I feel that you guys make me sick to my stomach, gross. You guys want to look at my eyes. You guys want to do something. That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

Speaker 1:

Talk to him, Drizzy.

Speaker 5:

I'm the type of nigga Stand on Bennett nigga One man arm and get 50 nigga. I stand on.

Speaker 4:

Bennett. Nigga, I can never be nobody. Number one fan, your first number one. I had to put it in your hand. Your pussies can't get Put outside America for now I'm out in Tokyo Because I'm big in Japan. I'm that nigga, make a. Y'all depend on Backstage in my city it was friend zone. You won't ever take no chain off of us. How the fuck you big, steppin' with a size 7 man zone, just a part with a white nigga, what's up? I know my picture on the wall when y'all cook up Extortion baby.

Speaker 4:

Whole career. You been shook up. This top toe. You dro, you drop it. Give me 50 likes, so push up. Cool your last one brick. Let me knock the shit.

Speaker 4:

They make excuses for you Cause they hate to see me lit. Pull your contract, cause we gotta see the split. The way you doing splits Bitch, your pants might rip. You better do that motherfucking show Inside the bitty Maroon 5, need a verse. You better make it witty and we need a verse for the 50s. What up with these? So you tight. Now just add it's talk with your ass.

Speaker 4:

I had a hike down. Big difference between Mike, danny, mike, now I'm gonna shut your whole ass up and make some drugs, nigga, and when you boys got rich you had to run from it. Cash flow and able bread. I hit chicken. Wow, drake, you want fun? Niggas, I just got a gun boy. Don't make me at the chippin' nail Rollin' loud stage y'all would turn. That was slick as hell. Shit'll probably change if it be him. Start to kiss and tell Hugs and kisses. Man. Don't tell me about no switches. I be rockin' every fuckin' chain I own. Next busy I be with some bodyguards like Biggie and Tom Sleep Like a little midget ass. Better, fuckin' Better, drop and give me 50, drop and give me 50, ayy, drop and give me 50, ayy, drop and give me 50,. Ayy Niggas really got me out here talking like I'm 50, ayy Niggas really got me out here rapping like I'm living. I might take it late.

Speaker 4:

This girl that come from like I'm Ricky Can't believe he jumping in this nigga turning 50. Every song that made it on the chart he got from Drizzy. Spend that little check you gotta. We know why. You mad, nigga. I ain't even trippin' All that little heartbroken Twitter. Shit for bitches. This for all the top dogs. Drop and give me 50.

Speaker 4:

And that fuckin' son of a gun did not start the beef with us. This shit been brewin' in a pot. Now I'm heatin' up. I don't care what Cole think that dot shit was weak, as fuck Champagne trippin' he is, is not fucking easin' up Nigga callin' top to see if top wanna piece it up. Top wanna piece it up, top wanna piece it up. Nah, pussy, now you on your own. When you speakin' up, you done broke. You did this and not fuckin' peepin' up Beggin' cops or not, boy you not fuckin' beatin' us Numbers wise, I'm outta here. You. Not fuckin' creepin' up Money wise, I'm outta here you. Outro Music Drop, drop, drop, drop. A fucking bag for the mom in a spot, drop a 50 bag, 29 for the dog.

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Speaker 4:

I was really, really trying to keep it.

Speaker 1:

PG Woo Drake, I know what it feels like to have fat niggas hating on you. Let's go. Let's start the show. This is Talk FNF TV with your boy Rhetoric, and my lovely and amazing co-host, Miss Reality. All right, man, we got to get into it. My boy responded.

Speaker 2:

It's a lot to get into.

Speaker 1:

This is an epic proportion, like when you really kind of break everything down, all the actions that just happened. This was just a master class of Drake of years of knowledge, of shade, of just like fighting. He's fighting a war on two sides we're going to have to get into like the media war that he's fighting alongside with this rap battle. But man, let's just, let's just react to the fact that he stepped off futures album, his second album dropping, and came with that heat yeah, when is futures album dropping?

Speaker 1:

it dropped friday, oh so we don't care about who you don't trust? No, more.

Speaker 2:

No, we don't care.

Speaker 1:

We are doing pushups.

Speaker 2:

You came at the wrong nigga.

Speaker 1:

Tell him he dropped that shit and it just took over.

Speaker 2:

Also, most of us forgot that Future was even involved in this beef.

Speaker 1:

He had a couple bars in there. It's really just Kendrick Drake right now. It's Kendrick. That's who everybody wants to see. Yeah. But Future took some bars in there, ross took some bars. We're going to go through everyone who got hit up.

Speaker 2:

It's so much going on.

Speaker 1:

It is. I think we should probably start with Rick Ross Mm-hmm, just because for the simple fact that he was the person who responded the quickest. So I just want to note this first. Here there was a bar that was taken out. I don't know if you heard the first version, because there was a. We'll just start from the beginning. There was a leak that came out saturday, yeah, and everybody was first assuming it was ai. When I heard it, I say it don't matter if it's ai, it counts because he was going that cat's head.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was and one of the bars that he had for ross. That I think this is the one ross heard when he was like worry about that shit that's going on with you and Diddy. But he took out Diddy's name when he did that, so he was talking about Ross. Yeah, it was in that same part where he was going about what's going on with Ross and Diddy.

Speaker 2:

We know that they boys.

Speaker 1:

We know that they amigos. But, Diddy's going through his issues. So he's saying you need to be worried about you and your mans. But, like I said, he took that part out, so we won't even have to really bring that into it.

Speaker 2:

You should have left that in. That shit was messy and I like it, drake. I like it a lot.

Speaker 1:

That's where this whole thing came out, man. He was really just stepping on. Next, like I said, he talked about Ross. He threw some bars in there, future, he threw some in there for even at travis and he definitely went at kendrick's head oh yeah I think my favorite kendrick bar was just the one where he said the cold shit.

Speaker 1:

He was like I don't care about what cold, talking about that dot shit was weak as fuck. That was my favorite part. I think that was my favorite uh dot bar. But do you want to get into the raw? So you want to stay on the dot okay, I was.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say I don't have a favorite dot bar. My favorite bar wasn't a dot bar, so we'll get to it when we get to it okay, so let's, let's.

Speaker 1:

Just did you hear the ross uh?

Speaker 2:

I didn't know. There was a part about ross. There was so much going on in the song. He said he shot at so many niggas.

Speaker 1:

He said I'm cuffing him like ricky, that was the, that's a ceo bar, uh-huh. And then when he was like this nigga almost turning 50, that's.

Speaker 2:

That was also another one oh, I thought all of he said it was about kendrick he said you're almost turning 50, that's ross.

Speaker 1:

He also said all your number ones that you got was because of me. That was another ball, ross bar I thought that was the future man. No well, you can say it was for both of them, but Rick Ross took it the most.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So, oh wait, aston Martin music. Was he in that?

Speaker 1:

No, I think that's not one of the number ones, though, but he was number one. Actually, none of those were number one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was Because he sung the hook.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, that was the woman that sung the hook on that one. But he go number one it was. It was a chart. It wasn't that high of a chart, more like skate scheming. That was one of their higher charting songs, but it wasn't Aston Martin that was like one of the first times they ever linked up was Aston Martin music that was my shit but no, that that's just where Ross came with this.

Speaker 1:

So Ross's diss track came out right after that like it was almost immediate, like a few hours I was. I was underwhelmed a lot of white boy talk, a lot of a lot of uh, cryptic messages in there I didn't listen to it I mean, it wasn't too much that you had to get to, it wasn't something that you definitely, definitely had to get to.

Speaker 1:

It. Just like, say, you just called him a white boy and the we'll get to the underlining issue, uh, but he kind of hints at it in his song a little bit, uh, but again, what, what do you feel about what? You know how he came at kendrick. Was this, uh, good enough for you?

Speaker 2:

I don't think it was good enough. But you know, I met. I wanted him to like go at his neck for real. How would it other than like I'm? I'm actually the the big one, and it was me and me two other times nigga, like I like that a lot. I like them talking his shit.

Speaker 1:

I like when niggas talk their shit. He went and basically went to expose Kendrick, as you're not getting big cuts of your money, Like your money is getting split up.

Speaker 2:

We didn't know that. We didn't know that Punch was getting 50% of his what streaming? Not streaming, but his masters.

Speaker 1:

They're basically saying 50% of whatever he's getting. That's what they're insinuating, but they're also saying that he allegedly had to pay 50 million to get out of TDE. So it was like to drop you. You got to give me 50 mil, like you said. It was a lot of people just pulling out interesting tidbits from it. Where do you feel like Kendrick has to respond at? Do you think he has a timetable? We'll get to that.

Speaker 2:

I hope Kendrick does respond. I hope he has to respond. I think within the next like two weeks would be too far out. Next like two weeks would be too too far out. So I think, like within a week and a half, he would have to um reply in a freestyle, because Kendrick's been coming at Drake for a while without Drake like fully, like directly coming back at him. So this is the first time, I think, that Drake's directly come back at Kendrick and if Kendrick is the type of nigga I think he is, if he's the type of rapper I think he is, I think he's gonna also immediately come back, hopefully so you were saying that on a few shows back that Drake was pussy cause he hadn't been responding, so like speak to okay, so don't do my man like that, I don't like how you niggas are making me like Drake, like I don't do my man, like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't like how you niggas are making me like drake, like I don't like how all y'all are acting a little pussy except kendrick. I said kendrick was the only one that wasn't pussy in the situation last week. But like I don't like, I don't like how y'all are moving. Everyone's like staying quiet. You know, like I I didn't like that. So I love that Drake came out and put out a track. I also think that it's very corny that all you niggas like it seems like teamed up to come at him. That's like super corny. It's like jumping a nigga like why, why did you feel like you had to do that? I I do feel like it's a little bit just a little bit corny for metro to like basically gather the hate drake hating avengers to try to come at him, like that's I don't, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

When I was watching dj academics, he, he made it seem like this isn't a metro or future, or kendrick, this is able Weeknd doing this. Oh, because he said that when he said Abel cash, taking Abel money, and that's what he went into.

Speaker 1:

He do what we do for bitches, they do it for niggas Like that's what he was saying, like you over there collecting all these guys up paying all this money to get all these niggas to be on your team so that you can team up against me, because he talked about the Toronto shit in there. He said some Toronto bars in there. He talked about it. I think his name was Baca. He said somebody named him. In regards to that, like I said, cash is the weekend's manager. So he was going.

Speaker 1:

It just seems like he feels like this is a Toronto thing that they're trying to just get more team members for, and so he using it getting Future to do the double album getting members for, and so he using it getting future to do the double album getting kendrick on there. They're spending this money to make this happen because if anybody knows who where the label money going to is going to be drake okay, so that that bar was at future.

Speaker 2:

The. I could never um your first number one. I had to put it in your hand that one could be.

Speaker 1:

I guess it could be either him or uh ross. I believe he gave ross a number one too, but no, the number one is ross. But the the second part, where he said uh giving him his songs.

Speaker 2:

He said that about ross too so do you think that like, because it seems like artists are like relying on? Yeah, he spoke to that too. Right, so do you think that that's apparent?

Speaker 1:

I think that it is. I think there's a change in the guard with a lot of things. Drake is kind of altering his trajectory and where he's trying to make sure he lands at Because, like I said, there's a lot of folks who was accusing or showing reference tracks for songs he put on his last couple projects the, the yachty one. Uh, there was another one. They said it's cash cobain. Is that dude's name? I think that's his name is like cash cobain or something I don't know who that is he's another person, who they said him.

Speaker 1:

And then, uh, yeet, there was no, yeet was another person. They were saying, like a lot of those songs were written by them. And then drake, just you know, did, did, did, put the Drake sauce on it. So I can just see where now, like it's a change of the guard, you guys are not as hot as y'all used to be. It's time for me to adapt to what's going on and it just that leaves y'all behind. I think that's just very evident in what's going on here. One thing I do want to talk about, just to kind of go back to the Dot stuff what do you feel about him talking about bringing up the wives again?

Speaker 2:

He brought up Kendrick's wife.

Speaker 1:

That Whitney bar. His wife's name is Whitney and he talked about being with the bodyguards, like Whitney. Oh, oh, you wasn't keeping up, you wasn't doing the science. No, I was in the science book. I was in the science book.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so okay.

Speaker 1:

I just feel like that was a weird place for me, because, drake, you put yourself in a weird and awkward position because once you bring the Whitney Houston bar in there, that Millie Bobby Brown versus that can be flipped Like you walked yourself into that.

Speaker 2:

And I don't think that's something you should have walked into at all like that, because the allegations are there.

Speaker 1:

I mean, there's no allegations with him, that it just she just said that they talked, that he was communicating with her but specifically with millie bobby brown, just no.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just saying that's surrounding the, the the age of women that he likes no, I I feel you on that and I'm gonna get to that in just a minute. In regards to just that, that bar will be hard if he drops a stranger thing like you want that stranger thing with. Like, come on now, it's so much that you can do with that, nilly bobby brown, do you think that kendrick would go that low like?

Speaker 2:

do you think that he would take that shot?

Speaker 1:

I'm glad that you asked me that because, kendrick, I I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you have the character to do that. I don't think so either. I don't think that you, because this is the thing what Pusha T did, he was a white knight. When he did that, when he went out there and said oh, you are hiding a child. You can do that when you either don't have kids or don't have any smut on your name like that, kendrick. I don't believe that. I'm sorry. I feel like you have curated a persona where people believe you could be that individual.

Speaker 2:

His whole last album was like him, struggling with infidelity and stuff like that we know that he's not like the cleanest guy.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not even about the cleanest part. It's just about him to be able to be be the person who says you're the nasty man hanging with young women or doing things with underage women more so specifically I just I don't think he, I don't think he has the character to do it, I don't think he would do that. I don't think he. When I say character, I mean I don't think he has. He's not upstanding within himself, he's not righteous enough within himself to be able to push those allegations.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we don't know.

Speaker 1:

That kind of. That's my. I'm telling you my opinion. I don't feel like you are that. Why do you feel?

Speaker 1:

that way? I don't. I just from what I've seen, even just what you said about some of the things that he put out into his last song album, I think that he put a little maybe too much that could be done there. He put a little maybe too much that could be done there, because I definitely can see Drake throwing in some bars of a girl name that you may have been involved with, that your wife knows her name, and that could that could bring friction if he brings that name up. Like I can just see where Drake can find the holes and I feel like he opened up that up. Like for you to be the kind of person to be able to go up to the biggest star in the world and be like you're on nasty man time it it.

Speaker 2:

It's a type of character that just is not seen normally in people I think kendrick knows that that would open up the conversation to like um, not just people who are in like the that likes like dirty underbelly of the internet, because those are the only people who know about these allegations. Right, so it would bring it up to more people, the mainstream.

Speaker 1:

This would be a regular thing that people talk about now yeah, and I just I just don't feel like maybe, potentially, maybe his hands are not as clean as he would want us to think we don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I'm just saying that's that's a that's.

Speaker 1:

That's a reason. That's a reason why I would think that if I wouldn't, if I know we got the bella girl he was allegedly messing with when she was 16. Remember drake was messing with that bella actress girl, the disney channel girl. No, I don't know where she was, disney she was just she was a model. Her name was bella. I can't remember oh, I don't remember I don't

Speaker 4:

know I have it right here.

Speaker 1:

Hold on. I've already been wrong on someone else's, so let me make sure I say her name correctly you know what I'm talking about with Bella. Harris, she was this girl right here. Look at a picture of her. She literally looks 12. In 2016, she was 16. She was born in 2000. And there was allegations of them messing together. Like I said, there's pictures of them together. They were seen together and you know situations and pictures and things like that.

Speaker 1:

That's somebody you could throw in there, that you could say, hey, this is a girl that you was with at that age at that at that young age of 16 or whatever you want, like I said, the Millie Bobby Brown saying she getting text messages from drinking stuff, that's stuff that you can use, but are you righteous in yourself to be able to throw that stone at another man? He without what was the Bible verse? He without sin, throw the first stone. Are you able to be that person? I don't think so, kendrick. I don't think you have it in you. I think that this is a facade that you have given to people and that you truly can't live up, because if you are who you claim to be the good kid, mad city pimp, a butterfly, the person who was creating that art you be the person to throw this stone and break this glass house.

Speaker 1:

That is Drake. You would come out here, grab the sword and slay the dragon, but I don't think you have that in you, my guy, you're not going to be able to do this. Drizzy is here and you're not going to be able to stop it because you guys, all of you guys in industry are just as dirty and just as muddy. So if y'all ain't going to go there, there's only one other place that they're really beefing about besides the women it's the money, it's the deals that's going on. It's the alleged conversation that Drake is getting a portion of all of you guys deal. He's in all of y'all pockets and I think that's what Rick Ross was saying a lot of his verses and I think that's what he's upset with. But how do you beef with that? In hip hop you can't just think about that because it's like in hip hop it's to be the boss. How do you then get mad at someone if he is now the boss of everyone?

Speaker 2:

If he owns a portion of everyone's shit like that's literally the first rapper who's been in this position to own this much shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I mean, like how can you even be mad with somebody positioning themselves like that? How do you hate on that and get the fans to hate that? What I was saying to someone was you cannot. What I was saying is Kendrick would have to play himself to say that, hey, drake is an overseer on the plantation, like you have to paint him as one of the suits, rather than a rapper that he shows himself to be, the artist that he shows up, which I just think that's impossible. No one's going to look at him like that, no matter what you, what versions that you can do, that picture to paint. That is just almost improbable to make people hate that.

Speaker 2:

So you touched on Drake owning these people's.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what it is because I'm not sure it's just a portion of their deal money, like you're getting important streams and all that kind of shit like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Joe Budden on the Joe Budden podcast. This is how the rumor started, because he was talking about it on his show. So apparently Drake and Future record a song that has a Tems sample. Future asks Tems teams to clear it. They don't, and then Drake has to reach out and have them clear it, but then Drake says that the song isn't going to be cleared without his verse on it, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's strong on himself, his verse on it, or something like that. Yeah, he's strong on himself. Yeah, but it was funny with that because that was Wait For you, right that song it might have been yeah. I think that was the only song. All three of them are on together, right?

Speaker 2:

It's the only song that all yeah, but we don't know if the song was released. I just assumed that it was a song that we haven't heard.

Speaker 1:

That was the song that was on Future's last project.

Speaker 2:

It was Wait For you. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

That's the only three songs that they're on together that I would see him to have to clear Mm-hmm Because she wasn't. Wasn't she on the hook on that song?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was. She's on the hook. I can see definitely that having to get between the two, Because they never was saying it was a huge song and Drake never showed up for any of the Like. I don't think they ever even performed it together.

Speaker 1:

There was zero, almost zero, promo for it. So that's where it was crazy, where everybody was like this is something going on with them before the whole, for all the dogs, or what was that? No, or what was that? No, that wasn't. Uh, what was the song with him? Her loss, herman 21 savage because people thought that was gonna be.

Speaker 2:

Uh, what a time to be alive too. So the the, the record company that apparently drake has a stake in, is gamma records. So, um, rick ross and mmg are signed to that and there's a bunch of, like other labels signed to. That def row is under that, so like snoop dogg technically and there's, it's a lot if drake is actually a stakeholder in gamma records I mean, I can see with the deal that he signed because he had just renegotiated his contract, like not too long ago right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can definitely see the deal that he signed, it being as much as it's being alleged to be. That, yeah, of course, part of my deal is I'm getting a portion of everybody's money, but the way that I do that is I have to be an active A&R, like I'm literally being A&R and I'm on a track. Because the thing is about Drake is his, his superpower At least he's. He's cultivated this far.

Speaker 2:

It's unprecedented.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm saying the superpower is to be able to put the sauce on something, because even if you listen to the yachty shit that they try to say was the reference track, it ain't got the same sauce until drake put it on there yeah that drake sauce pause is legit. I said pause. No, did it. It still didn't know right coming out of you no sorry it still didn't sound right.

Speaker 2:

I, it's coming out. No, sorry, it still didn't sound right.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to look up who else is under Gamma Records. No, I'm pretty sure if you do the science on it, it's probably a lot more people that, more than we think.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear ASAP this when he said on futures?

Speaker 1:

He said something about oh, he hit drake's baby mom first. Yeah, like you. Okay, asap, if you're going to do this, you have to bring the dirt. You can't say you hit it, you have to explain ray, j already did that and he did it.

Speaker 1:

It's not even about the hit it first. He has to get into what. Remember what I told you, what allegedly happened. Get into it. He the. The story that is juicier than you just hit it first is that you hit it the same night. He allegedly got her pregnant. That makes it better. You could, you or you could one up what kanye did and kanye said y'all was in a threesome. You could definitely clowns a nigga for being the nigga that gets you, gets the girl pregnant in the threesome in the train.

Speaker 1:

Like you, you left a caboose in the train. That's insane.

Speaker 2:

Cause I always assumed that this was a one-on-one situation, that Drake got this sex worker pregnant, but it wasn't allegedly, and I think that's the best way.

Speaker 1:

Like you guys have to play dirty with Drake, you guys have to get your hands in the mud. Pusha T already showed y'all how you have to deal with Drake, and that's what I was going to get to. He set the bar.

Speaker 2:

He already showed y'all how you got to deal with this man and y'all are not dealing with him the way that he needs to be dealt with. You got to bend him over your knee and you got to spank him like a child.

Speaker 1:

Kendrick, if you don't read the damn blind items, you can't win.

Speaker 2:

You got to read them. Oh my God, Kyle, the woman who literally introduced us to blind items on TikTok has passed away. Rip A queen. She literally is dead Under suspicious circumstances or she had cancer. Oh, I mean, that still could be suspicious I don't know if she had cancer and she beat it and it came back or something like that, but rip kyle that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Somebody's got to pick up where she left off at. You can't let the blind items go unseen. See what I did there.

Speaker 2:

Her name is Kyle Richards.

Speaker 1:

RIP. Well, since we're on death right now just to do a quick RIP for OJ, we'll get into that more.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, her name is not Kyle Richards. My bad, oh shit.

Speaker 1:

Her name is Kyle, though RIPO. So yeah, rip OJ. We'll get into that in just a moment as well too, but let me see you got to get into it we do?

Speaker 1:

You're like a dead buy. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. Done All right. So I think this to kind of just surmise and kind of get also to our next topic here, I think this is a very big moment for DJ Academics because the way he was able to go live on multiple platforms and then facilitate the Drake, the actual Drake master song, and playing it live on his stream, like you can't say that this guy isn't who he is when it comes to the media game.

Speaker 2:

I know you aren't a fan of him posted in another nigga hood like a bad bitch, yeah, but I know you're not a fan of him, that's what that reminds me of I know you're not a fan of DJ Academics, but can you say without any?

Speaker 1:

Just be objective here, be objective. I refuse the media run that he's on is unprecedented.

Speaker 2:

You can't not acknowledge that this nigga was cuddling with Joe Budden. He was cuddling with Joe Budden. How do you want me to respect this man?

Speaker 1:

I know Flip was jealous. Flip was in his feelings.

Speaker 2:

Flip literally had a whole temper tantrum when he saw that.

Speaker 1:

He was biting his bottom lip and punching air.

Speaker 2:

He threw his phone.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure he said yo JR, jr, come get this, come get these niggas hugging. But no, I just, I just think it needs to be acknowledged, man, like the fact that this guy went from being in a room with a camera and a live stream and to turn himself into the media personality that he is now. You have to respect that. Even what we're doing right now it may not even feel possible if it's not for DJ Academics Like you just have to acknowledge that.

Speaker 2:

Turn all this shit off right now.

Speaker 1:

I'm just being honest, turn all this shit off right now. I'm being honest. You can't dude, you can't hate like that, you can't have that kind of hate in your soul for him. We can kick the nigga back in when necessary. Yes, I can not not in this way. You cannot objectively, you cannot objectively say that this nigga has not been necessary for where culture has been shifted he is not necessary for where the culture has been shifted okay, explain it now. Now with reason I don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't think anything that dj academic does is that groundbreaking. If dj academic wasn't being a messy nigga online, it'll be another nigga being a messy nigga online. It would be another nigga being a messy nigga online. Like, nothing he's doing is pioneering anything. Nothing he's doing is groundbreaking. Nothing he does is unique. You're acting like he's really like this amazing journalist and philosopher of culture, philanthropy not philanthropist, but um there's another word I'm looking for, but he's not that.

Speaker 2:

He is literally just a messy fat bitch in front of a camera, yelling and, and he he be, he be riding dick real well, so that other niggas be like drake can give him the opportunity to, um, to do something like premiere the diss song. That's why he over here cuddling Joe Budden this nigga's a dick writer Are you finished. He sucks dick very well.

Speaker 1:

Are you finished? Can you stop hitting the mic too, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

I hit the mic one time.

Speaker 1:

No, that's your second time. But what you're ignoring is the fact that DJ Akademiks is one of the most hardest working individuals. He is consistent. He keeps the same passion and energy like he had when he was 10 years ago starting this shit. He actually cares about the product.

Speaker 2:

That he's producing. I do commend you for having the same energy because it it physically.

Speaker 1:

you should have less, that's hate, but you can't, like I said, to like the I said this a tweet the other day is to hate dj academics is to show your own self-worth, because you can't hate this man without understanding his grind. It's the truth. He put himself in position a lot better than a lot other people have. There's people who cannot, bro. There are folks who cannot handle just the disrespect that comes from you is all in his comments, just as much every day talk about people 10 times 24 smaller platforms who get the same amount of disrespect.

Speaker 1:

No, not like that. Not as big as his platform and gets the 10 fold that he gets and still is continually. Do it, not just from his, not just from the fan base Easy to disrespect again, that's.

Speaker 1:

But to be able to weather the storm is also a superpower. That's what I'm saying. Like you're not giving credit to credit's due because you just want to hate on nigga, that's cool, but I'm gonna get a credit where the credit is. If we want to kick this back in, we can kick his back in about what he just did with donald trump jr. What do you do with him? He just had an interview he live streamed with uh, donald trump jr his stuff does not pop up on my, on my algorithms at all he couldn't get big trump, he had to get a little trump.

Speaker 1:

That's, to me, is a bigger and a more poignant discussion to have with him, rather than discussion you have, because I just feel like that take is just so, it's lazy like there's really nothing he does is unique or pioneering his hard work?

Speaker 1:

yes, it is live streaming at the level he was about about he was live streaming about was not being done. He was the only person doing that, and even people who try to copy cannot stay and be as consistent as him. Like that's just legit. You can say what you want about that, but that is legit how it is okay nobody else is doing that disagree on this, so no, I'm just being but I'm saying we can get into him being commandeered by the, the right.

Speaker 1:

I think it's just true that you, like I said, you can't trust these C-niggas. These C-niggas will cut you down every time when it comes to that money, when it comes to that opportunity to create their profile, to be bigger C-niggas will cut you.

Speaker 2:

Who is the C-nigga DJ Academics? That is an African-American man.

Speaker 1:

No, he's not. He's literally born in Jamaica. That's crazy. That's. Captain C nigga right now.

Speaker 2:

How did you not know that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know things about this man. I mean, I would think that you from New York, you would be familiar.

Speaker 2:

Like, why would I?

Speaker 1:

know I don't like him. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have to know things about him, like being Jamaican.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't. Why would you know things about people that you don't like and you generally don't enjoy? I know, a lot of things, so you just scroll past it Like I don't know anything about this man other than that I don't enjoy him.

Speaker 1:

I guess with me the reason why I, if I don't enjoy somebody, it's because I actually have a reason to so to get that reason, I have to consume your content.

Speaker 2:

Every time I see a clip of his it, I think it's corny as fuck, so I just don't listen to it.

Speaker 1:

That's not fair because you just watch cuts of the live stream, so you're just getting the worst part. That's like if somebody just took the worst part of our two hour broadcast and just said that was you.

Speaker 2:

I'm not giving him a chance. I understand you're not. You literally can't I get what you're saying. What you're saying is rational. You can't judge somebody off the clips, but that's what I'm doing and I'm sticking to it.

Speaker 1:

Hey, dj Academic, stop doing that Republican shit and I'll rock with you, but until then, that's going to be the main thing. I kick your back in because the conservatives are taking advantage of you, big dog. All right, I'll also do another little thing. Man from my other episode. I got to clean up something too, man. So I didn't know Bell Hooks was dead. So I want to say RIP to Bell Hooks. My comment was insensitive and problematic, but I did learn some things. So tell me why, bell Hooks? She died in December of 2021 and six months later, guess who died after her? Kevin Samuels, the polar opposite. It was just like when, when joker lost batman, he didn't. He didn't know what to do, so he ended up dying himself. I just felt that that was like wow, that those two were. They died in such close proximity, being what they stood for yeah, it's's like yin and yang.

Speaker 2:

It was insane.

Speaker 1:

They couldn't exist without one another, without each other. They needed each other. Yeah, it was insane.

Speaker 2:

Wait, because you said that your favorite going back, your favorite Kendrick bar, my favorite bar from Drake's whole thing was Metro. Shut your whole ass up and make some drums. Nigga Like I don't want to guess who the bar is about and I don't want to guess what you're saying. I want you to be like you bitch. I like that a lot and Metro can literally never make another beat ever again in his life.

Speaker 1:

Metro gotta get in the booth. Technically from what that stems from is that there isn't any beats that he makes. He just adds the drums to it. So basically, there's been accusations that he's the Drake of beats.

Speaker 2:

He just adds the.

Speaker 1:

Metro sprinklings on it.

Speaker 2:

They both got good sauce. Yo.

Speaker 1:

I can't say that. All right, so let's get into the netflix show that I watched, so unlocked a jail experiment. So first I want to add here I'm a formal correction officer. So I was a correction officer for a few like six months and I was in one of georgia's like toughest prisons. It was glenn state prison. I'm not gonna say, excuse me, smith state prison in glenville, the home of shannon sharp. You should see that sign every time I would go to work. You would see, hey, glenville, the home of shannon sharp, and then a big ass prison to your left bow-legged king that's fucked up.

Speaker 1:

Don't do that so said king. So this show is basically about, uh, jail. So I want to kind of clarify that too as well. So prison and jail are extremely two different things.

Speaker 2:

What is the difference? Because I mix them up all the time.

Speaker 1:

So jail is where you go right after whatever happened happened to you Like. Once the police arrest you, they send you to jail. So, you can be in jail for either if you don't have bond, or you know you can't pay your bond, or you could be a danger to the community, so they keep you there.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Prison is where you go after you have already been sentenced.

Speaker 2:

So we're staying there. So yeah, you basically you know exactly how much your time you're doing.

Speaker 1:

You get your sentence in your time and then they send you to jail. They send you to prison, so you can, you can be tried while you're in jail. You get guilty, you're still in jail, then they take you for sentencing, then they'll ship you off to the prison process.

Speaker 2:

So jail is just anxiety.

Speaker 1:

Jail is the worst. Jail sucks. Prison's like summer camp compared to jail. Jail is like a box with four walls, and somebody you don't know that did something almost twice can be twice as bad as what you did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that's crazy. You could be in there just for like some you can't pay bail for, like a bunch of parking tickets with a nigga that murdered somebody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, murder, that's exactly how it could be.

Speaker 2:

Unaliving.

Speaker 1:

But no, that's how it could be. So in this show they have a sheriff who his name is eric higgin. He is a sheriff and he comes with this idea where basically he takes some of the principles from prison. He doesn't acknowledge it like this, but he takes some of the principles from prison and extends it to the jail where basically they remove the guard out and they let the prisoners police themselves. So when I was a correctional officer just to kind of give y'all the idea of where I had again I was at one of the max prisons, worst prisons in Georgia. I had 101 men in me and then there was a dude in the middle and then another guy and he had 101 men and just him.

Speaker 2:

So I was Don't like that. So.

Speaker 1:

Drake was 20 v 1, nigga. I was 101 v 1, nigga. So that is basically the environment, similar to them. One of the rules that you learn early on when you start being a correctional officer is a phrase like this it's called the dorms police themselves, meaning you, as the officer on duty, do not have to wield your authority, that the people in the older people in the dorms will do that for you. So that's kind of what he wants to take into the jail program. They kind of go, they introduce you to a few guys who are a little bit older. You have tiny East side Randy, who they call True Story, and Randy is a character. Randy is pretty much the guy that you follow through the whole time. That's the old thing, the oldest guy there. He's buff and he's an orderly. So what orderly is is a person who is usually given a job in the prison or jail and they do the cleaning, they do trades, they kind of are an assistant to the correctional officer or the officer who is working at that jail.

Speaker 2:

So this is just crazy to see he's like the boss.

Speaker 1:

So when they tell them what they're going to do these guys, it just creates almost an immediate fraction. The older guys want to start getting in control and start dictating things and the younger kids obviously super, super resistant. So this is where the messed up part is, because this happens with any time. Old and young guys mix in. Especially when you get into this prison system, you gotta incorporate a lot of black and, uh, young brown boys. That's also going to be involved in this. The issue when you get these two is is that folks ain't practicing what they preach in these situations and also, too, they everyone is a hypocrite yeah, and but also, too, you got to also take into consideration that these aren't the top 10 percentile of, you know, our american public either.

Speaker 2:

No, these are men who already decided that they weren't going to follow the rules, and then weren't smart enough to do so, so they got caught.

Speaker 1:

Technically, they didn't decide yet They've been accused of not following the rules Allegedly and they just have not been sentenced or been determined that they did that. They definitely got caught, allegedly, I mean they got enough evidence to put them in jail, we'll say that Allegedly so the thing with True Story.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, he's real chain gang, real chain gang brother. Like I can tell you've been in the system for a minute just by the way he communicates. Yeah, like there was one scene where one of the younger white boys was being disrespectful to one of the officers and he sent somebody to beat this nigga ass, literally just jumped on him, beat them up in the dorm and when they came out they was like, oh, I hit my head. And that's another thing too. Like the dorms, like okay, I'm going to let y'all understand, when I was in my, I never walked into them, damn dorms, I was not trying to do that at all.

Speaker 1:

They wanted us to do these things called damn I can't remember what kind of checks they are, but they wanted us to basically do bad chicks when they want us to go in there, search them. Oh, shakedown, that's what we used to call it. They wanted us to do three shakedowns a day. Nigga, please, you want me to do a high max, potentially a murderer. You want me to shake down his room three times a day?

Speaker 4:

No, sir, not doing that by?

Speaker 2:

myself that's what I want you to know not doing it. They did a shakedown in this, in this show, and it was a full team of like tactical gear and everything.

Speaker 1:

That was the only when they brought the circ team.

Speaker 1:

That was the only time they respected the shakedown, because them boys came in looking like they was ready for problem they look like swat it was one time where there's there's a group that goes to each prison in georgia and they just go and just shake down every door, like they just go in and just shake down every door, like they just go in and just shake it down. They come in and they just they're merciless, like I'm talking about they unscrewing things, they moving things around, like they get to it and when, when, when they come around, they strip the boys naked.

Speaker 1:

They do all that you gotta bend over and call yeah, they gotta let go of your, your, they extend authority and that was where it's like you don't really have that kind of power when you're the day-to-day CO, so like they only get that every once in a while. But here that's where they started this off at. So after they did the shakedown, made sure they got everything, folks started doing their thing, so they introduce you to a lot of chain gang behavior like the coffee sticks.

Speaker 2:

That's a real thing so these guys apparently in prison. You can jail jail in in jail I'm sorry, in jail they, they probably do this in prison too but they they soak like paper paper towels or like toilet paper and coffee, and then they roll it up and then they smoke that and apparently it it just gives them the sensation it's satisfactory in some way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it gives them a sensation in prison they get a lot more in there, like they getting, you know, uh, more drugs in there, tobacco, like there was this one guy who was in one of my dorms every morning he was smoking a blunt of straight gas. Like how I'm sitting there. I would go up to him. I'd be like hey, bro, not going to stop you from smoking. Could you do it in your room though? And he goes, he goes, fuck you, salute what.

Speaker 2:

Is this what's happening in?

Speaker 1:

well, that was prison. That was, yeah, real prison chain gang. Like I said, that shit was.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna get into some more of this because they do a little bit more of the stuff too there so they, they, um, they were doing the coffee sticks and then they were like rolling paper towels and making like wicks um to to use as lighters because they they don't have access to lighters so what they'll do is they'll usually take like a battery or something and they'll use some wires and use that to create enough heat so that they can burn something, and they just keep something burning so that you know they have flame and fire in a different lifetime.

Speaker 2:

These niggas were inventors and scientists and chemists of all sorts.

Speaker 1:

No, it goes back to what we talked about the other episode. When you have time, you can figure out almost anything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

When you have time to sit around and think you can figure out almost anything. They also show some more like real, like surreal, live stuff into it, like they do, commissary. So commissary is a big thing in prison. You can't play about that like if the commissary don't come, you can almost be assured somebody's gonna get beat up that week. No, no lie, like when working the prison, it makes you only thing they have. Yeah, that's the only thing of real value.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I'm trying to tell you working when I worked in prison, there's a reason why when you buy them little ramen noodle packs, which they call soups in the prison in the chain gang system, why I really don't like to eat those. Because it reminds me of chain gang honey buns, chain gang shit, all them little orange type chips like the puffs and all chain gang shit. Nigga, I don't like any of it. I'm not a fan of chain gang food, any of it. I'm not a fan of chain gang food and when I lived in experience and I had to work in this prison, it made I used to hate the one honey buns. I had to hate to a core. To my core is the ones with the icy on it, because that just you knew a nigga life was changing. If he had that icy honey bun on his bed, I glad I didn't work night shift. What does that mean? That means you getting glazed, my guy. You're getting glazed, my guy, I don't I don't like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that at all I don't either.

Speaker 1:

That's why I didn't work night shift. So then they kind of show a lot of in prison. Yes, that's happening, those there's guys who they bunk up together. So that, did you see it. I didn't work night shift.

Speaker 2:

It only happens during night shift. They wouldn't try to get it in during the day.

Speaker 1:

No, during the day they're just straight jackers. They'll just pull out jack on you during the day. What yeah, especially for the women, like if you would get jacked on every day.

Speaker 2:

no lie funny no, that's funny at all.

Speaker 1:

A nigga will pull out on you every day and start going to town not funny.

Speaker 2:

Why do I keep laughing?

Speaker 1:

I'm just for real so back to back to this experiment here they really do a really good job of showing, like, what you can do if you give the people in the system a little more grace and opportunity I think that was really nice, because they let them get free phones which is unheard of. They were able to call their family, have access to all their uh, you know lawyers and things of that nature they were all very happy about that.

Speaker 1:

They also got two visitations a week yep, they got to have more visitations and you got to see like one of the dudes named tiny tiny's crazy, okay, tiny talked about how he stabbed somebody when he was eight because they threw a football at his head and he just was like I'm never going to be pussy out here in these streets, so I had to stab this nigga.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why black people have to have to take mental health more serious, Because if you stabbing somebody at eight Tiny was not normal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they failed Tiny. Yeah, they failed Tiny.

Speaker 1:

Tiny wasn't normal Tiny had some type of like disorder of some sort mentally that made him think that it was okay at eight years old to stab somebody. Yeah, and then even it was an interesting kind of exchange because randy and uh tiny had a, had an interaction where tiny was helping him with the trays. And this is a very big thing too is like you expect, if I do work for the, for the prison, they gonna bless me with an extra tray, extra food, things like that, because again I can use that for commerce and trade. That didn't happen. He was really pissed and then you see them get into altercation to the point where Randy put hand on Tiny.

Speaker 2:

And Randy is the main nigga that's trying to preach to everybody to stay level headed and this and that, but he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Speaker 1:

That was the main thing with the older gentleman in this episode on the show was that they didn't practice what he preaches. And that was the main thing with the older gentleman in this episode in this show was that they didn't practice what they preached at all. So you had another older guy named Squirrel yelling at everybody to do X, y and Z he making hooch. So if y'all not familiar with hoochies, hoochies is basically where they ferment fruits and all this other stuff that they can get their hands on with sugar and breadcrumbs, all that kind of stuff, and they make alcohol and they will get fucked up off of that and he said that he was mad because it was his birthday, hooch.

Speaker 1:

Yep, well, that's when they got rid of it, that's when they did the shakedown for the hooch. But no, he was making the hooch in his room but then trying to tell everybody what to do.

Speaker 1:

So when they called him out on it, he said what we do in the room, niggas, don't play about that hooch in there though because, like I said, that's the only good time that they can have when they're doing with the, with any of these kind of you know, paraphernalias and things of that nature. But they end up getting themselves together, uh, after being threatened a few times, put on lockdown for a day or two here and there, and kind of get things in order, and they were able to kind of get things, you know know, to a certain understanding. The messed up part is the white boys was the main one causing a lot of the ruckus early on they was they was doing the most drugs.

Speaker 1:

Eastside when Eastside stopped doing what he was doing in there. Because, okay, let me tell you about this man Eastside, all right, just to kind of understand what kind of white boy he was. He got arrested, one time for going into a pet store. The one time for going into a pet store, the niggas say he came out with a bunch of snakes and an iguana, the iguana. When he he walks out, the police are right there, the iguana sneak gets off of him, grabs and bites his dick and he like falls back into the store and all those other things you missed one part go ahead.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm saying the the iguana bit his dick. He's fucking high on meth as well that's what I wanted you to tell the people. Yeah, that's what I meant to forget he was high on meth while he did all this shit. True, fucking crash out, but he brought that environment because a lot of these guys, white trash just encompassed. But a lot of these guys. They don't have anything else to believe better for themselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They never see nothing else, like they're really the bottom tier of society for a lot of portions because that's how they've been treated. So you see that kind of like through this movie and it's going to do this series, and they kind of show that the sheriff Higgins was probably the first person to ever give a lot of these guys an opportunity and a chance to even show themselves, to be able to take care of themselves, because I thought there were some of them that were like yes, thank you for this opportunity, I don't want to be here and I don't want to come back.

Speaker 2:

Please, let me know how to not come back here like I don't. And then a lot of them were like please, I just want y'all to act right, because we finally have something good and we don't get good things and that was just kind of like the main takeaway from it.

Speaker 1:

You end up kind of seeing like you know the guys, even though you know they had their you know history and they didn't show where everybody landed out at the end. But you do see like Tiny who gets out of jail and he's, you know, back living his life. I don't know if he learned a lesson because they asked him. You know he's getting emotional. He's like I ain't finna cry, I'm a gangster, though I ain't finna cry. I was like, oh, I don't know if he learned a lesson there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hope he did.

Speaker 1:

I hope you don't end up back in jail, tony. Recidivism is high, so, niggas, once they go, they come back for a lot of times.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a completely different show, but uh, I think overall though it was actually a good experiment.

Speaker 1:

I think it was a good watch. I think you kind of really get an idea of the prison system, well, the jail system and kind of can.

Speaker 1:

You can take a lot of that. What? What transition there over to the prison. What happens in our prison system? I want more jail shows. The only thing about prison is that you have you're more open, like you have more space that you can go around, there's classes that you can go to, there's more opportunities to do things here there. Do guys really take advantage of it? No, I mean when you're sitting there especially the place I'm at when you're sitting there for 20 years, you know it's kind of hard to want to take advantage of it because, you feel like you've lost all your life, especially like I was even telling her she didn't.

Speaker 1:

She wasn't aware. Like if you go there when you're a minor in prison, for like until you're an adult, you got to sit in the medical, which is basically like being in a hole.

Speaker 2:

And speaking of the hole, there was one guy. This was the thing that struck me the most. There was this guy. He's in medical and they ask him if he is thinking about harming himself and he's like I said yes because I am thinking about harming himself. And he's like I said yes because I am thinking about harming myself. He was facing up to 25 years of life. He murdered somebody, I think so. Um, because of the fact that he said that he was suicidal and he was thinking about harming himself, they put him in solitary and I was like I was really, genuinely. I was so confused and taken aback because I was like if you, if somebody is thinking of harming themselves and think about unaliving themselves, why would you put them in a small box by themselves, with nothing but their own thoughts?

Speaker 1:

Well, what they have to do is they have to remove you away from everybody else, and then, when you put them in a room, you have a lot more control.

Speaker 2:

I don't remove your shoelaces, you know, know type of clothes that you can watch you closer, but I feel like you probably would just want to do that more intensely than you did before it.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it depends for everybody who's different, um, and every situation is different, but when you're when you're in prison, you're considered a ward of the state. So it's kind of like real important that we maintain your existence, like I've been. When I when I before I left the correctional department, there was a super big fight that happened Like I'm talking about. It was huge, but what happened beforehand it was an inmate who was killed in a bunk in his dorm, in the room, like. So that happened, he was killed for whatever reason. And then it came over to a few weeks later and then you see all the gangs that are opposite of each other start tying. We had a lot of different signs. When they start tying their shoes, putting their pants up, a certain way, you could tell there was going to be a fight, that was going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Mexicans got on boots.

Speaker 1:

That's another thing, but uh, and so when this fight broke out, like, I remember running to the dorm because we all had to go there, because they they called the code, and I just remember seeing someone have a piece of metal and they put it right through a guy's top of his head. Oh no, oh man you saw that.

Speaker 2:

I saw it. You know that happened in my um, my high school. I think I told that story.

Speaker 1:

This happened in the prison. I'm talking about in the prison.

Speaker 2:

MS-13 gang activity in Brentwood High School. It was absolutely insane.

Speaker 1:

No, you know MS, boys are psyched out. Absolutely insane.

Speaker 2:

Like, what is good with y'all niggas Nothing.

Speaker 1:

But no man, it's insane in that prison system. It's no joke for sure I wouldn't put that on my worst enemy.

Speaker 2:

I don't like when people say that y'all don't have enemies for real. I would put that on my worst enemy. I would put that on my worst enemy and then I would double it and then I would want that for my worst enemy Definitely, that I don't feel y'all when y'all say that at all. I want the worst for my worst enemy. I want hell times two for you. May you never prosper in anything in your life, ever.

Speaker 1:

Let's continue, all right, so we didn't talk about this on the last episode. Gerard Carmichael on the last episode Gerard Carmichael.

Speaker 2:

Gerard Carmichael has been. First of all, let me be more intelligent in my way of reviewing this. I think it's very interesting that Gerard Carmichael decided to make himself his villain in his own origin story. That's a really interesting take on your introspection, right. I've always enjoyed Gerard Carmichael. I've always been that black girl who liked the kind of weird black guys aesthetically, so I always enjoyed him. I enjoy him a little bit less, which is crazy, because now I'm getting to know him more so I feel like I don't know. Also, I this is this is to be continued. My feelings might change. The show is not done. I feel like I might. With the with the episode with his parents coming up, I might change my tune. But this current episode of gerard carmichael's reality show is basically, um, how he is as a friend. That's the, the general, like aesthetic or like.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a light way of putting it. I don't.

Speaker 2:

I think this is more showing him as the egomaniac no so that he truly is inside how he is in his relationships of people he he likes, but that's, that's what you end up getting from this episode I mean you get it from the first episode too.

Speaker 1:

I mean second episode too, when he goes on his philandering spirit where he's sleeping with all those people and he's still cheating on his, his partner yeah, like you, I just get that so much more when it's like you do this to the people who you care about Outside of a romantic.

Speaker 2:

You just do this.

Speaker 1:

I peeped it once. He was laughing during the therapist session when he was snickering and laughing about what was going on. I can understand where it's like. I do all of this to you guys because, you allow me to the only reason he's with the people he associates himself with is because his success allows him to feel better, feel better than them or be better than them in his mind. So I can do whatever I want to. So that's what it. That's what's clearly about. Like you don't do. You don't have a friend come to New York with you and when you're, when you're unsatisfied with their presence, just don't ask them to leave. You don't get them an apartment and then say, oh, it's yours, and then 30 days later it's not.

Speaker 2:

She came with a bunch of bags and she had no timeline of like when she was going to leave. If that was something that you were uncomfortable with, you should have sat your friend down and you were like these are my boundaries, you can't stay here indefinitely. It makes me uncomfortable. I like you, I like my space more, but he also too, where it's like the whole.

Speaker 1:

Oh you know, if one of us get on, we're going to support the other one. I never thought I would get on At that point. Even that case you can still be a person of your word but still have to be a friend and tell your friend. You can look at her and say you're not gonna make it. We both can look at her off top and tell you you not, finna, make it.

Speaker 2:

I don't like when you lump me into this, but yeah, that's real shit. She, um, she is able to cry on cue, which is amazing, but, like, there's lots of other things other than talent that need to come.

Speaker 1:

She did it once. The other time she was struggling when she was trying to do all them scenes. Let's keep it a bean draw. You are a bad friend.

Speaker 1:

She don't need to catch strays, we just focus on gerard no, you are a bad friend because for the fact that you are allowing somebody to live this delusion and you not being honest to god with them, that's a bad friend. I'm sorry If a nigga that I knew he's fucked up, I'm 30 years old. If one of my friends said I'm trying to play NFL or NBA basketball at 30 years old, I'm telling them you're a fucking fool. I'm telling them right now, to their fucking face, you're a fool, sir. Yeah, you don't know dreams.

Speaker 1:

You're just not good enough to have yeah and and as a real friend and as a friend who is successful in that, you should be able to tell somebody that, like if somebody asked me to work where I work at and I know that they have a hard time reading comprehension I'm gonna say, bro, you can't do what I do, yeah, you can't. You, you don't read well enough and comprehend well enough to do what I do. Yeah, I'm not saying that's a bad thing or you're less than me, but I'm saying that you can't do that. And that's where, at his, at him, that is a bad person.

Speaker 2:

He's a bad dude he's yeah, this, that's what this episode gave you. He also. So that's not even the thing that stuck out to me the most in the episode. The thing that stuck out to me the most in the episode, the thing that stuck out to me the most was him being a best man in his best friend's wedding and, the day of this wedding, refusing to wear this like men's warehouse suit. When, my nigga, if you're, if you're a best man in the wedding, you knew that this wedding was coming months in advance. If you didn't want to wear that suit, you could have just got your tom ford suit, like before you. You went to the wedding.

Speaker 2:

So he goes to the mall, tries to find a suit, doesn't find a suit, tries to find a black shirt, doesn't get the black shirt. He sits there, he eats a hot dog, he shows up an hour and a half late to his best friend's wedding as the best man and he misses it. And then this is the same best friend at the end of the episode that he's reading the speech his best man speech that he never got to give to his best friend. And then the friend is just sitting there like, and he like it's just so like you're selfish beyond any explanation, and he knows this. And he's like oh, maybe I'm selfish as a form of um, like this is his shield, like this is his armor being selfish yes, like this is a defense mechanism of some sort and maybe it is, but you just seem like a shitty person.

Speaker 2:

And then after this episode, right after he shows us time and time again that he's a shitty person, and then there's a whole compilation of him calling friends to apologize and they're just like you're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit and you could have easily apologized and this could have not been a thing. But you're a piece of shit and you could have easily apologized and this could have not been a thing, but you're a piece of shit. And then so he goes on the breakfast club recently and the first thing, like he doesn't even let anybody introduce anything. There's no morning. This is DJ and be, uh, charlamagne the God just hilarious doesn't even let GJ Envy get his shit off.

Speaker 2:

He's just immediately like oh um, I didn't like the way that my race play joke was received by Charlemagne he doesn't like the way Charlemagne reported the race play joke and he doesn't like the fact that he got donkey of the day, because Charlemagne is his friend and Charlemagne should have seen the nuance in the joke or no, charlemagne should have reported the the joke in a more nuanced way. But but it wasn't your responsibility to tell the joke in a nuanced fashion at all I think that's one thing too.

Speaker 1:

I think it's also pretty rich in his criticism where he was saying oh, you need to be more informed in your reporting of it. But then when he brought up the literacy laws in the state that gerard is car michael's from, he goes oh, I'm just a comedian telling jokes. Now, it's okay, charlemagne's the radio guy. He's not over here saying he's telling you truth.

Speaker 2:

Uh, every time they gotta they have a whole rumor report and he's like, oh, I only told that joke because, um, my white boyfriend reads a lot and he, when he reads a lot, he makes me feel not as well read. And then he said that he was, like, I usually feel like the smartest person in the room, which I don't like. That you're, I don't. I'm liking you less, less and less. He, um, he's pretentious as fuck, he's super pretentious, which is why he was such good friends with tyler the creator. Because, tyler, god, I love tyler, tyler, I have loved you since middle school.

Speaker 2:

But he is also pretentious as fuck about his art, tyler, if you, if you, have listened to a Tyler the Creator interview in the last like three years, his last, all of them, his last three years of interviews have been mostly him being pretentious as fuck. They're both the same.

Speaker 1:

I mean I can't speak too much, I don't really watch the media.

Speaker 2:

I've watched every single Tyler the Creator interview from the moment that he has become from Odd Future till now. Every single minute of every single Tyler the Creator interview and the way that his persona has changed in the media Amazing. I love that for you.

Speaker 1:

But also you come off as super pretentious, but I know that you're just an artist who's very passionate about your art I think that in this next episode it's gonna come out friday that uh, it's going to be said that you know he's gonna do the whole my parents don't like because I'm gay, kind of thing and try to get the audience back on his side I feel like his parents are gonna.

Speaker 2:

I I really I think it'll be funny if his parents are just like not that bad yeah, I think that would be funny, but like I really I think that he's not gonna have a foot to stand on if his parents are just not that bad and they're like well, no, we're not that. That um against you being gay, it's just why you got these cameras here, nigga like. If it's like that shit, then I'm just gonna be like gerard, like come on, pack it up, my nigga like it's gonna be really funny if that's his parents sentiment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I just feel like he's gonna stage it up.

Speaker 1:

That's probably not gonna be.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like he's going to stage it up, but that's probably not going to be the case.

Speaker 1:

I think he's going to dress it up so that he can come out as the oh, this is the storm that I weather. This is why I'm this asshole that you guys have been seeing this whole show.

Speaker 2:

There has to be a method to the madness, because the whole thing has just been building up to me not liking you anymore, gerard, and I've liked you for a very long time. I liked you before, before the gay I think that's.

Speaker 1:

I think he's going to. That's where it's going to, because even in the interview he made a note to like charlotte, you're going to like this next episode. Like he, he has this plan in his head he's curated it.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, in a in a specific fashion. I think he's smart enough to do so.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I would hope you wouldn't be as the fact that you're already Exposing yourself like this. I mean without having some type of plan behind it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, it has to be a plan.

Speaker 1:

I mean you would hope, because the fact that, please, the reason you did this was so that you could cross the picket line. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like that was really the the crux nobody has really been talking about with him. Nothing that he does, though, would well, I wouldn't say that, because he did have a whole scripted series, sitcom and everything but like doing stand-up. He wouldn't need to cross the picket line for right not necessarily, uh, like he could have easily put out another stand-up special, but that's not what he decided to do.

Speaker 1:

I think that's. I think that's that gets into the weeds with it when you do specials though Specials is a little bit more it's more in that line, because there's writers and stuff that do all that. There's writers, there's a whole bunch of. There's more.

Speaker 2:

There are writers, because I would assume that only the comedian. The comedian would be the only writer, because he's telling his own jokes.

Speaker 1:

No, you think comedians all write their own jokes. Yes, no, no I think like Especially like those bigger comedians that are torn.

Speaker 2:

No, there's some guys that do so. Dave Chappelle like let's Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 1:

Would Dave Chappelle would write some of his own jokes, like the actual, true comedians, I think.

Speaker 2:

But I would.

Speaker 1:

even then, I would think, if the guys who aren't just doing crowd work, if Chris Rock was doing an arena tour, he wouldn't be writing his own jokes by himself.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I never, I never.

Speaker 1:

You should watch this movie called Funny People. They kind of go into a little bit of the behind the scenes of comedians. It's Adam Sand, the behind the scenes of comedians. It's a adam sandler and seth rogan and it's about that's seth rogan, it's about basically being a comedian and that's adam sandler is having getting his jokes written from, uh, seth rogan, like that's part of the oh wow, I didn't.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that was a thing at all. I just always assumed that comedians just worked on their their content in small, smaller venues and just curated it for a couple years until they got a set of jokes that was long enough to make a special.

Speaker 1:

Nah, niggas buy jokes. Niggas will buy a joke from you. Oh, wow They'll basically pay you to never tell that joke and they'll be the only one to tell that joke. That happens a lot.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't know that was happening at all.

Speaker 1:

We want to start this off with rpoj again, great american hero, man man fought the court systems in one I feel like you know it's commendable that you got to kill a white woman to get away with it that's not what he did. That's not what happened.

Speaker 2:

Is that not what he did?

Speaker 1:

that's not what he did.

Speaker 2:

What happened is a white woman, man and a white a white woman and a white man died.

Speaker 1:

They accused him of said murder and he was not guilty if the glove don't fit, you can't quit thank you, you must acquit shout out to johnny conquering, who was the actual hero rip.

Speaker 1:

He's also dead yeah, and so is rob card. Everyone from the case is dying, but no, I just think that, uh, I think a lot of people. It was just interesting to see, like, how ESPN handled it. They didn't want to like really treat them like, with no praise and all this. I don't think people have to do that. I think one thing we kind of like get confused with and we try to hold the law, to be like the end all be all for things when it's beneficial to us, but when it's not, then we debate it. To me, it's very clear that you can look at the evidence that happened there and I see some people trying to say, oh, he was too old to kill him at this. Come on now.

Speaker 2:

Nah, he was strong enough to kill those.

Speaker 1:

If it's a surprise attack, that's all he needs. He's strong enough to surprise attack them, like there was a whole bunch of stuff I was getting to. Have you ever heard of a colombian necktie? No, okay, I'll tell you about off the off the show. It's kind of gruesome, but they were trying to say that's what I'm googling that they tried to say he did that to, to them or.

Speaker 1:

But I saw people saying that online. That that's what they were saying, but that's not that. That was never brought to uh a trial because there wasn't enough evidence for it. That's what happened to him. Because you know you know people try to say like one of the theories was that it was a drug deal going wrong, like it was some drug cartel type shit. Other people say that his son did it. That's kind of been debunked to a lot. His son did it.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, because the only I've never even seen that. The only did it. Oh yeah, because the only I've never even seen that, the only time I ever heard of that was when you brought it up to me a couple days ago.

Speaker 1:

No, there was a actually on the id channel. They did a whole investigation like they found like a locker box that had a knife. Uh, that had a knife in the locker box that was owned to his son. But they said the certain, the you know markings on it didn't match the, the blade that was used that night.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

But it was like literally you watch the whole thing. It's like four episodes, four or five episodes, and then they kind of showed that why they don't think he could do it. It was more something to do with like where he was at that time and in place of what happened is why they were like he couldn't have done it. But I just think people just forget. Like there was blood in oj's car, like there was blood everywhere.

Speaker 2:

That's why he went to. Well, that's with the second time right, because there was a second.

Speaker 1:

The second time he went to jail because he stole his own property. Oh, the first time he went to jail was because, well, for his case, like I said, there was a lot of preponderance of evidence. Yeah, the nigga fucking had blood everywhere. He had blood on the Bronco. He didn't do it. Okay.

Speaker 1:

These niggas is hell boy, oh shit, oh man. But I don't think he had help either. He said he did in his book, but I don't think he did. I don't think he had help either. He said he did in his book, but I don't think he did. I don't think he had help. But man that nigga did it.

Speaker 2:

I mean he might have did. He might have did that nigga killed that lady.

Speaker 1:

Like what. I just think that we should be able to have an open dialogue about it and understand what was going on. You know what was really surprising to me about it, though? How many of you so-called media people were like why did OJ have so much support of the black people? Did y'all watch anything Like do y'all actually care about this media life, or do y'all just react to things in real time and don't do any kind of like searching?

Speaker 1:

Like I said, I know I was wrong on that episode back, but we at least do some type of research here black people taking up for oj.

Speaker 2:

It was like a whole. It was a whole cultural thing.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not, it wasn't just everyone was like behind him.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's because there's a lot of things that happened here, like the fact that rodney king had just got his ass beat, like a few years back, the fact that it happened. It like the case, even though the the murder happened, like in the upper scale area. They took the case to like downtown la. There was all almost an all-black jury like you couldn't, and it was mostly women too. Like you couldn't paint this. But they said during one of the little documentaries that oj said to johnny cochran that if this jury uh finds me guilty, I might have did it.

Speaker 2:

Like that was the craziest because these are my peers for real not even his peers.

Speaker 1:

He just knew that the black folks was going to rock with him the way he needed him to, especially he.

Speaker 2:

He might have not known what the black women were gonna do no, that's what they want.

Speaker 1:

The black.

Speaker 2:

The black women were like, yeah, that's our nigga.

Speaker 1:

No if you watch the the document, that's who they were trying to get. They were trying to get older black women. That's who they were trying to focus in on because they knew that demographic would be more than likely to vote not guilty for OJ. Like I said, if you watch this whole shit. Because older black women are always going to put blackness above womenhood when they took the juries to OJ's house, and this will be the last thing we can move on to something else when they took the juries to OJ's house, he purposely removed all the pictures of him with white people and replaced them with him with other black celebrities.

Speaker 1:

They purposely did that so that when they went into the house they seen OJ with all these black people.

Speaker 2:

Y'all are smart.

Speaker 1:

Johnny.

Speaker 2:

Johnny RIP. Johnny was that guy RIP because you should be with Young Thug on that stand right now. He needs you. That trial would have been over. You know that trial has been going on for like 60 something days now. It's been longer than that, longer than that it's been longer than that.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you talk about just the trial itself, or no actual like in in the court well then, yeah well, you're not talking about how long it took him to get jurors and all that other stuff yeah. It's been way longer than 60 days. It almost took almost a year to get the jurors.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, like I'm talking about like when it while they've been in the court. I know, I know, I added a separate fact.

Speaker 1:

I acknowledge what you say was true. I added on the fact that them just getting the jurors took like almost a year.

Speaker 2:

It's been taking mad long. It's crazy. It's crazy, it's crazy. I know it is, it's nuts, um. And then young thug is just tired. You saw that clip of him, young. He looked directly in the camera. He said like is this modern family.

Speaker 1:

Sir, you're in, you're going to prison they're gonna throw him to keep going in jail for mad long.

Speaker 2:

Imagine being in jail for that long. Young Thug is going through this Netflix show right now.

Speaker 1:

It's worse.

Speaker 2:

Except because he's Young Thug Nigga's probably in his space rapping at him all day.

Speaker 1:

He's probably by himself for the most part.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I heard they was trying to get him with gen population, but I think he might be.

Speaker 2:

If I was in a cell with Young Thug nigga. You're going to hear these bars, my homeboy was arrested with Offset one time. Oh, wow, and Offset was Day 62 of the trial.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I mean the trial is that, but if you add the days with the jurors and all that stuff, way longer. But so we did watch the Good Times show. I just want to make it into a quick review.

Speaker 2:

Watch is crazy for what I did. I mean, I watched all the episodes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I again, I I shitted on it. I think a lot of the stuff that I felt was kind of still valid because my taking was my, my take on it was basically about the imagery that was involved in it and it kind of just literally they had the first episode with the baby that was selling drugs. They had him, his ops being little baby, the baby and bird, dababy and Birdman.

Speaker 2:

DaBaby, there was no nuance to anything that y'all were trying to say. It just seemed like y'all were just fucking making fun of caricatures of blackness and hoodness and ghetto-ness and it was not interesting. I had a problem.

Speaker 1:

I had a problem with the coming like the woman episode, with the girl becoming like getting her period and stuff, and I didn't have it for the issue that y'all think that oh, look at this massager, this bell hooks hating man would like it it's not that it's not the reason why.

Speaker 1:

The reason I didn't like it was because, okay, she's getting her first period, so that makes her what? No, older than 13. They had so much inappropriate imagery for this to be a 13 year old girl, like they had her get a bbl. They turned her into like a bbl model, had her shaking her ass for a little bit, like a couple scenes, like, and then like to resolve everything, like the mom kind of gets over her, like uh, slut shaming kind of persona, but then like the girl because the mom was saying that she was a slut for using tampons.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was like. That's like an old black, old black american terminology thing, myth or saying. But the thing was like it came to her being the result of like oh, I'm just going to free bleed. Cool, they just had her free bleeding through her pants and then, using the like period blood as a tool, was a weapon, like she was throwing it under on other young men. She was like playing in it and with like it was this disgusting behavior and I just felt like none of that was appropriate for the age that y'all were trying to show this girl to be yeah, she was like throwing it in other kids faces like it was just wild, like they had her literally leaking through her pants and like just showing it, just dripping down her legs.

Speaker 1:

It was just like this is uncomfortable. That's supposed to be a little girl, I don't think that was the right way to do that.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that imagery.

Speaker 1:

It was just like why? And then like they tried to like play it like they were attacking both sides because they had like an elon musk episode and they had an episode where they was like talking about the old mayor of new york and stuff like that. It just didn't land for me eric adams no, and I said New York, I mean. Chicago, okay, I mean Chicago, you know Lightfoot. They had her. They had her on there yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then they tried to like they tried to have like this Allison lady who was like the symbol of white oppression, and then like they tried to surmise it being like the issue, being like personal responsibility, bullshit, because you end up the mom becomes the president of the projects, the dad is a cop, but then the son ends up getting into a gang and gets shot at the end of it and then they do like a whole Dallas who shot JR, type of thing. Yeah, but it was just to me like I got. I get what they were trying to do. Some of the the points of what you were saying that you hope they did. They did do in some ways, but I just felt like it was overall, it was just really lazy. A lot of the places that they did try to attack.

Speaker 2:

It was really lazy and it wasn't good times, and there was something that you learned about this show, right?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, in our last clip of video when we talked about someone brought to attention was the Norm guy who we didn't really know familiar. He was actually one of the original producers on the show. He had got into it with the original father because he had issues with the show. So if you ask white people, they're going to say that the dad was mad that JJ was getting a lot of the shine. And if you ask a lot of black people, they're going to say he was mad that the way they were trying to portray the family and the dude who this producer was he's a legacy producer. That's why his name is included. He is somebody who wanted to promote that negativity in regards to the family and things of that nature. So I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 1:

We got that information so we do appreciate y'all, when y'all, when y'all hit the comments with good tidbits like that yes, sandra lawson.

Speaker 2:

Eight, nine, six, seven shout out to you for for telling us that information.

Speaker 1:

So no, we appreciate that for real.

Speaker 2:

Thanks girl.

Speaker 1:

Helps us help the other people. But I just think like I wouldn't recommend watching it. If y'all want to, it's 10 episodes.

Speaker 2:

Don't watch it.

Speaker 1:

We take on the burden for you guys, so that y'all don't have to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What would you like um out of five stars?

Speaker 2:

it was probably two and a half okay, like I said, it's not it's.

Speaker 1:

It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be it's not fully cool it's not as coonish as I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 1:

It can't. I can see how some people like he was singing with the roaches and shit like that, like I can see where you could have that. But it was some parts that was funny and then it was some parts that was just like y'all trying to be baby kids too much, y'all trying to be boom docs and it's like it doesn't feel. It doesn't feel like it's coming from a genuine, genuine assessment.

Speaker 2:

Randomly, when you said roaches, I thought of that A$AP Rocky bar where he was like roaches on the wall, roaches on the dresser. Everybody had roaches, but our roaches ain't respect us.

Speaker 1:

No, these niggas respected them. They did on the show. They respected them.

Speaker 2:

Bro, asap, y'all roaches didn't respect y'all. That's hilarious. There was another roach bar that was hilarious, where somebody said something about roaches.

Speaker 1:

They had one in there where they was like on the show when he was like they had a competition. They was like the loser had to clean the roaches out of the cereal box, but no. And then they was in the same apartment too, like they didn't kind of acknowledge that, but they was like in the same apartment that the family grew up in. It was funny. They did one part, they did. They did some lore too, like a lot of it. There was a lot more lore in here that was good times related than it had ever been, and I and I've seen in any other shows that kind of do these kind of reboots like they talked about when james won at the pool house. Uh, they talked about when they won the best apartment and they got a month of free rent.

Speaker 1:

So it was a lot of dope shit that they did bring back from the original it, just knowing where I get where I felt about it. This just wasn't, this wasn't what I was happy for, so I didn't want to see it anymore. I'm not going to. I don't know if I'm a watch season two. They bring it back. Hope you don't there.

Speaker 2:

I don't think they're going to get a season two.

Speaker 1:

You don't, steph Curry. You deserve not to get a season two. Clown ass, bitch ass, nigga, my bad, all right. Will Smith was at Coachella, coachella.

Speaker 2:

He came out with some some Jay Bavin.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Bavin Is he, is he.

Speaker 1:

Jay Bavin is a Hispanic artist. I'm not too familiar with it, but what I've heard about him he's legit.

Speaker 2:

He did his little men in black thing, Will Smith just seems like someone who is chasing youth in a moment in fame and he seems like he just always needs to be in your face and it's kind of just. I'm glad you said that, because it's getting sad.

Speaker 1:

I got into an interaction where you know Reign of April. You know who she is on Twitter or X. She did the Oscar so white Hashtag she. Creator of the hashtag spill. Co-founder.

Speaker 1:

She is a pioneer Of black twitter hood yeah, she's, I wouldn't say all that, but she, she, she, we me and her had an interaction. So she said quick question, I know nothing about Coachella since Baychella. Why did Will choose this song? Enlighten Me. So I said it's quite literally his highest charting song. She said it is because he has other number one hits.

Speaker 1:

I then posted where it said Men in Black was his number one because it was the number one in the US and it was the number one in us in the us and it was the number one in our uh in the uk. So then she says, uh, okay, now do get jiggy with it because it was the number one on the billboard. I told her it wasn't, you know, number one in the uh, you care whatever. I tell her then to uh that actually I should probably say it's his highest performing song. It's a better way to put it. So then she goes into this. She says that's fine. My point is artists who have had decade-long careers don't look to the charts to determine which song to perform. Um, if this is that's true, he would have had performed uh, brand new funk at the grammys what is?

Speaker 1:

that? What brand new funk yeah, I guess it's one of his songs he performed.

Speaker 2:

Nobody knows what that is. Ma'am, Come on.

Speaker 1:

So saying that he picked Men in Black for Coachella doesn't ring true. So I will say this here. You said my point is artists for decade-long careers. Don't look at the charts to determine which song they perform. He is not just an artist in decade, he's one thing. Will Smith is a brand. Will Smith is a brand, and a brand that is in the mud right now.

Speaker 2:

A brand that has not put music at the forefront. Priority of the brand also. Also too.

Speaker 1:

When you also take that into consideration, you also have a brand where I've been tainted the last few years now to where it seems like my wife doesn't even respect me. Yeah, painted the last few years now to where it seems like my wife doesn't even respect me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so if I'm in a position where it looks like begging them to know, less about them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're not even just begging to know less about. Well, if I'm in a position where I have, my brain is not what it has been in the past. If I'm going to go on a big stage like this, I'm going to go my most recognized song and not to you niggas, something that has the most nostalgia to the most people, and it's Men in Black.

Speaker 3:

And what people don't understand is like here comes the Men in Black.

Speaker 2:

That's my shit.

Speaker 1:

What people don't understand, though it's not my shit. For a lot of black people they think Get Jiggy With it is his number one song, his best highest performing song.

Speaker 2:

It's not number one song, his best highest performance song, but not the white people love men in black.

Speaker 1:

We gotta stop thinking about just our little bubble, you know and that's what I was trying to tell her was like you are looking at will smith and like he's beyonce. And no, he is a tainted and bruised e-gold man who is trying to find favor in the world again, and he's doing it by his greatest hits, and he doesn't have a huge catalog to pick from. No, he has a good catalog now, don't do that Summertime.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but if you're comparing him to Beyonce, he does not have a huge catalog to pick from. He doesn't have decades of albums.

Speaker 1:

He's mostly an actor.

Speaker 2:

He's an actor. He's not a rapper.

Speaker 1:

Most of his songs correlate with with his movies too, so I think that's another thing that you know, people that get.

Speaker 2:

He should have went up there and did the fresh prince theme song can't do that you gotta you gotta do men.

Speaker 1:

That's his number one hit for real men and men in black is that's that's his. That literally changed his trajectory. He's not who we think he is today without Men in Black.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Men in Black was truly. Men in Black was like his Hollywood shit yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think Will Smith did not have the career that we wanted him. This is a tangent, but I always thought that I saw this thing. That said, will Smith always picked his movies off of what he thought was going to be the biggest like box office hit and he didn't pick it off of like what he artistically felt like closer to. And I feel like that's why we think of will smith as an actor who we know he has the skills, but the movies that he would he just picks flops and if he was picking passion projects and things that he really believed in artistically, versus trying to chase numbers, I think he would have had a a different career. Maybe he wouldn't have had like box office smashes like he did, but as far as like critical acclaim, I think um, he would have been further ahead than I would than he is, I think will smith is is kind of like compliment drake I would.

Speaker 1:

I would disagree in a way, because he missed out on matrix. He was supposed to be neo, he was the first, so if he would have been neo it would have just been critical. It came. That was a box office hit.

Speaker 2:

No, but he was picking off of what he thought that's what I'm saying what he was projecting, so he also projected wrong. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so Matrix would have been amazing both sides for him, but because he was only focusing on the box office part, he missed a lot of amazing, amazing opportunities that he because he chose wild wild west instead of matrix.

Speaker 1:

If he chooses matrix I, I believe he could rival denzel right now yeah, in regards to the, the roles that he would have gotten, he should rival denzel.

Speaker 2:

I would think so yeah, but he doesn't, because just look at look at.

Speaker 1:

Look at the roles that um was in the keanu reeves has gotten since then. Like you, you could argue what uh equalize. What's his uh equalizer is is Denzel right.

Speaker 2:

I would say Keanu Reeves has a hold on equalizer.

Speaker 1:

Is Denzel right? Yes, it is.

Speaker 2:

That's like his John Wick yeah, I think you could say that, john um.

Speaker 1:

John.

Speaker 2:

Wick uh. Keanu Reeves has had a very like niche acting career.

Speaker 1:

Well, he, after Matrix he was. He was low for a minute he was, and then he came back and started doing movies and stuff like that again. But I don't think will smith would have to do that.

Speaker 2:

Will smith would have been taking this all the way to the top it would have been, his projection would have been upward instead of just like that. But yeah, I've always thought that. I've always thought that will smith was was his own detriment to his acting career because of the fact that he was chasing numbers instead of just doing scripts that he was like falling in love with, Because I've seen that Actors who have fallen in love with scripts, who have just given it a chance, and it's a huge movie because this specific actor who had this prominence just decided to do this passion project and it was an amazing script.

Speaker 1:

Again. We can get into Will Smith for hours, but it's just the fact that he didn't really take a lot of risks. The only movie he really could say he took a risk was that Six Degrees of Separation movies where he did the gay guy and most people haven't even seen that movie. Like, I bring that movie up up, you do that confused look. Every time I bring it up, yeah, like this.

Speaker 1:

Nigga did a whole gay scene and a sex, almost basically a sex scene in there, where the dudes like you see him, like the dude him in the bed together that concussion movie was like the closest the the. That fucked him up, though, because that's that put him at odds with people. Oh, did it that? That's, some people say. That's the reason why a lot of his stuff fell off after that was because he went against the nfl in that movie, and then but I would say that that is his movie that had the best no, no, niggas hated his accent, they did okay I'm I'm bugging the fuck out, let me pursue the happiness pursuit.

Speaker 1:

Of happiness is what people have yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That movie made me cry. That movie makes me cry every time I see it. Pursuit of happiness is what people have in that concussion movie. That movie made me cry. That movie makes me cry every time I see it.

Speaker 1:

Pursuit of Happiness is what made him a mainstay in people's hearts, Like as an actual actor. Yeah, him and Jaden, Because before that it was just him being a superstar.

Speaker 2:

And then they did After Earth and you just fucked it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he went back to the super shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you went back to the box office big sensationalized thing.

Speaker 1:

I think he was trying to find that Matrix. He was really upset about it. He picked Wild Wild West over Matrix and I think that's what it was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because Wild Wild West, although it was very campy and fun, it's not a cultural staple. In movies like Matrix it had a summer, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1:

The summer it came out was lit. It was a good movie? Oh no, it was not. It was just a good. It had a good summer.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, that shit had a good, it had its moment. But Matrix is a moment Like it's a cultural. It has way more cultural significance.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always think that's funny too. They're making a new Matrix.

Speaker 2:

They're making a Matrix 5 now they had just made a Matrix not too long ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they made a 4. But they, what happened, was the Russo sisters now, because they used to be the Russo brothers. They're Russo sisters now. One of them did it because the other one didn't want to do it. They basically said they were going to do a movie anyway and they gave them the option to do it, and that's why they basically did the parody movie where they talk shit about warner brothers.

Speaker 2:

The whole time for two hours you didn't watch matrix 4.

Speaker 1:

That was a parody movie. It literally was making fun of warner brothers, making them make the matrix movie. Oh, that's why they just made, that's why they just showed the matrix. Uh, for basically the last two, three movies, they just replayed those movies the whole time because they were just making fun of studios trying to force shit out of ip. So that's where that came from, was that? Was that why? That's why the movie took the message it did and approach it did.

Speaker 1:

Was that they were just saying like, hey, you know, we're just gonna shit y'all because y'all trying to um drain our brand yeah, it didn't seem like there was that much like passion put into it, I mean because if you want to get into it now like it, the matrix shit you could really dive deep, deep, but you would really have to stand on on business because at least then, like the world that we live in now was still a dream when matrix came out, so you can still play around now.

Speaker 1:

It's just too on the nose, like the shit that you can do is it would be real shit, like you would feel bad that you might have given someone an idea from this movie to really do a real life. I think that's why we have a lot of the satire has drained so much now, because people are scared of like, what if I give somebody the idea to do something? Because everything feels possible.

Speaker 2:

That makes me think about that other show that we watched on Netflix.

Speaker 2:

Talking about the stuff about the internet stuff, the 4chan QAnon Really quick. All of that conspiracy stuff that was happening during the first Trump election. I didn't know. That was basically like memes, like a another deep underbelly garbage part of the internet that just made this shit up the whole pizza gate. The whole trump.

Speaker 2:

Um, saving children from pedophiles, like all of that was just jokes that these white boys on 4chan took to 8chan. That was apparently a thing I didn't know, yeah, and then they were just spreading lies on the internet until it got to people raiding the capitol. And then there was this one clip of uh, who was a journalist, and he was at the capitol and he was asking a bunch of different people like why are they here and why they think that there's corruption in the government, and everyone was just giving like an off the wall answer that had no backing. Like there was this one guy was like well, there's obelisks and that's basically the devil's dick and why are those in the government? And then there was another one that was like well, hillary Clinton is selling kids.

Speaker 2:

It was just a bunch of random nonsense and all of it, like you could trace it back and back, and back and back. And when you trace it all the way back it's literally just a joke, a meme that these guys ran with, and then it got out of hand and then they were literally sitting there like are they stupid enough to believe this? I can't believe they're stupid enough to believe this.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean if that was the whole thing. If you go back to just even like it was a QAnon documentary. That's on on max too, but they talk about all this stuff Like QAnon also was completely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, qanon was not real. So QAnon Q was a person who was posting on 4chan and he was basically In the beginning. It seemed like they were predicting Donald Trump's tweets. So then they got validity from predicting Donald Trump's tweets. So then people thought that this was someone who was like a government insider, who was exposing secrets and giving people some type of truth.

Speaker 1:

And telling them that Trump was fighting pedophiles.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, whole time QAnon were was um, and there were there were people who were making videos about QAnon trying to break down what he was saying. Whole time, qanon were these people who were making these videos and these people who were on these boards like they were Q. So, um, eventually people found out, because what Q was saying was not matching up and they were like this didn't happen, this didn't happen, this never happened. So then it it lost validity, but then the truth always loses steam.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, by the time that people figure out that this is fake, there's way less people looking at it.

Speaker 1:

And then also, too, like folks still believe in that Pizzagate shit, like that's still a staple in what people will say now.

Speaker 2:

Can I tell you where that came from?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I know a little bit, but you can do it.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell the audience where I came from this whole Pizzagate thing. It's really crazy. So they used to make, for some reason, cp jokes on QAnon and stuff like that. So there used to be a bunch of memes because it was a funny thing.

Speaker 2:

So anything that could stand for cp, the the initials, would become a joke for child. You know, cp, I don't, I can't say it, but um, so they would post cheese pizza and then that would stand for cp. And then it eventually got to a specific meme of a little girl eating cheese pizza and then eventually somehow it morphed into hillary clinton has a sex trafficking ring.

Speaker 1:

Well, what happened was there was emails that were released from the wikileaks, and in those wikileaks docs there were mentions of pizzas and hot dogs yes, hot dogs and hamburgers, but they said that this is what these people actually like. Ordered to eat at these, at these meetings, for some goddamn reason, but also to their feet, just letting y'all know they're feeding them to the underlings. Yeah, that's what they're feeding the pizza, hot dogs and hamburgers.

Speaker 2:

So that's why pizza, hot dogs and hamburgers were in the emails, and then they just took it, ran with it, and now hillary clinton is a part of a child trafficking ring. That's um. For some reason, the headquarters is a pizza shop yeah, and then people are believing that.

Speaker 2:

And they raided that pizza shop too they did somebody got, somebody brought a gun there, like I think, shot some people there was a whole documentary for the people who owned that pizza shop and they were like, yeah, this was a crazy time for us because we're just a pizza shop.

Speaker 1:

Like there wasn't even a back. They said there was a back room in the pizza shop. They were like, no, it's not Like you can come here and investigate. They used to call the police on that pizza shop and all the time, like they was going through it, yeah, used to shop at all the time like they was going through.

Speaker 1:

They was going through it, yeah, but no, it is wild. When you just kind of get into that, you just see where it's like folks are so vulnerable at this time. It's way worse than when we were little. Like it was way worse than when we were young. Like I remember when the the short change documentaries about 9-11 came, niggas didn't rally the same way niggas do now, no. But people are so deranged and in our education system has failed people to such an extreme degree that you allow these cracks to come through. Like I said, no child left behind failed generation.

Speaker 2:

I'll say that over and over again. The internet allows you to just stay in your own little bubble of confirmation bias but it's not just the internet's fault.

Speaker 1:

It's people's inability to want to read and and comprehend information and also have common sense. Our, our attention span is way too short, like it's just like why niggas fuck with the Terrence Howard shit, because it just sounds like it makes sense. The one times one. Oh, it's two, yeah, it's one of two. It's two things there, so it has to be two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, multiplying needs to mean that more happens.

Speaker 1:

Come on now that's where again people are literally a comment we got yeah that's why it rang true in my head there uh, but no, it's just like I said. We just we have a bad, bad group of people where we just don't invest in them the right way. It's really sad. And then we wonder why we get the outcomes we get. All right, let's get into this little honey boo boo clip. So I don't know if you knew. Honey Boo Boo is back. She's been back since February.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't know that Honey Boo Boo was back, because I wasn't.

Speaker 1:

So, if you weren't there in the early 2010s, there was a sensation that took the internet by storm Honey Boo Boo.

Speaker 2:

This fat little white girl.

Speaker 1:

And for some reason she was quirky and people just liked her.

Speaker 2:

She was sassy as fuck.

Speaker 1:

And people just wanted a piece of the old boo boo.

Speaker 2:

So she's back, she's a girl. I can say that she's a girl and she's grown as fuck she was a child.

Speaker 1:

She's grown as fuck now she got a negro boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

Of course she does.

Speaker 1:

You know, we don't respect ourselves.

Speaker 2:

You know, niggas love them. A fat white bitch, you know when it's on TV too Shit.

Speaker 1:

Sign me up for that weight train, all right, so right here. So the Neighborhood Talk says OMG, honey Boo Boo and her sister Pumpkin go off on Mama June Amid amid their financial battles. You're not a supportive mother, you lost 500K to a bag of fucking crack bitch.

Speaker 6:

I don't hang around. No thief, they're going to steal my money now.

Speaker 1:

Tell them honey.

Speaker 6:

You was the one who stole it, so you need to pay me my money back. Talk about it $35,000 could have paid for two semesters for Lana this is the truth If she was going to stay in Colorado. If Darlene gets done, it's sentenced to a year. Are you really You're being negative bitch? You're not his important mother. He's going to get every way he needs of probation. I'm sorry, I'm spending $10,000. Her losing the $10,000. Her losing the $10,000 had me back on my feet.

Speaker 2:

Wake it up.

Speaker 6:

Who cares if it's investing in your daughter. You lost $500,000 to a bag of f***ing crack bitch. Damn, god forbid. I want to drop out of college and waste 10 grand. What I do with my money is what I do with my money. I don't tell y'all what y'all do with y'all's Like hey, alana, here's 35 grand. Uh yeah, if mama wants to have, like a relationship with me, it's yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm not Hold on, here's another clip.

Speaker 6:

She's the reason you're famous to begin with.

Speaker 1:

God Honey Boo Boo is.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how the fuck I'm gonna pay for college. Honey boo boo, boo, boo boo.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, mama, I don't Winnie the Pooh, it's like mama you don't really give a fuck.

Speaker 6:

You took our money. That's the real problem. It's gone. I used it in my drug addiction. Talk about it.

Speaker 2:

She's like you're not getting that money back.

Speaker 1:

She's like yo, that shit went up my fucking nose. I smoked that shit through a crack pipe. My G.

Speaker 6:

You can't be honest. I have been honest about that. This is your. That's the issue here, mama. I've been honest, dumbass. Just the fact that you're here, the fact that you took the money from her, I did some f***ing up decisions. I did some f***ing up decisions, but consequences are going to come back and bite you in the ass, june, and you're gonna have to put your big girl panties on and deal with it, and that's what you're from nobody I love white trash.

Speaker 1:

Can I just say that I'm I love. I love to see white trash. We don't have enough of it. We need more cameras in front of you. Trailer park motherfuckers yo real shit. Oh my god. So what would you do if you found out your parent smoked away 500k on a fucking crack bag?

Speaker 2:

there's nothing you can do, because there it was fucking crack. You're not getting that shit back. Okay, it's gone now. So you, and what are you gonna do? Whoop your mama ass, like that's the only thing you can do.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna whoop that crackhead ass so you took half a million and you couldn't even buy cocaine like you was cheap with my money too. That's the part what I'd be insulted by. Granted, you got an addiction, but you had a trash addiction like crack. Crack is crazy like yo. You better put that shit up your nose like a real one. You over there doing free base cocaine on my money that's fucking sick nigga. You better do some real cocaine with my money. I'd be so mad if my mom snort uh crack my money. If it was like like some exotic drugs or some pills, I could take that on the chin. You can't put it in the crack pipe. That's the lowest that and meth is like the lowest form of drug abuse is meth.

Speaker 2:

Is meth not expensive?

Speaker 1:

meth isn't expensive, that's just crank oh, it's easy to get a hand of it and crack, and then crack is just stretched out, stepped on fucking cocaine that you can smoke. So I mean, it's it, it's all craziness, it's all it's. It's. It's funny to me, though.

Speaker 2:

I just I think that's my racial bias.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking that meth is expensive because white people do meth, and I need to stop equating whiteness with uh well, meth is meth is poor people drug, so that's like that's what they do in in the fucking woods and shit they back alley like drug.

Speaker 2:

So that's like that's what they do in the fucking woods and shit.

Speaker 1:

Back alley Like in the desert. That's crystal meth. They going crazy with the crystal. That's why I'm surprised, Honey Boo Boo, Mama, like you got to do some more designer drugs. You just being a fat white crack whore sucks. Wow, that does.

Speaker 2:

Fat white crack. Whore is crazy. I like that. That sentence, that sequence of words.

Speaker 1:

I like it a lot.

Speaker 2:

Like it makes my brain tingle.

Speaker 1:

Like walking in. I just couldn't imagine walking in and seeing your mama doing crack.

Speaker 2:

Like what you could never mother me, ever again. That's we could, after I you crack, crack you, just disrespecting the whole family. You can never tell me what to do after I watch you do crack Bitch. Go do some with your crack smoking ass. No, I'm not watching no goddamn dishes.

Speaker 1:

You smoke crack Go wash your fucking pipe, bitch, dirty ass pipe.

Speaker 2:

Fucking crack whore oh shit.

Speaker 1:

Well, that was all I had left.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this was a. We had a good show today.

Speaker 1:

You seen them shitting on. We didn't talk about Kai. Kai, stay away from the hookers. I don't want to talk about Kai. That's your Haitian brother.

Speaker 2:

First of all Tell him in Creole. All I got to say, kai, is that paying for sex work is not that much. It's not that big of a deal. You should have been like yep, I paid for exactly how much I thought the pussy was worth done and that would have been done.

Speaker 1:

But the thing about it is and we don't gotta stay on too long that was your girlfriend dog. That wasn't no sex worker you was buying, you was doing streams with this bitch, you was having public conversations with her this was yes, she was on his platform.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she was streaming with this nigga.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if she's on his platform, but there's videos of them streaming together. That was his girlfriend. He liked her. He just couldn't be public with her. But he, like I understand she, she, her body was doable, but her face was like a broken record yeah, like that shit was something I was not want to play at all um, but I can understand why that nigga loved her bro. Did you see them pictures with him cuddling up? That was his bitch.

Speaker 2:

He was literally he was. He was knocked out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was safe around her yeah, so I you got to get out the Amp House too. Dog, you can't sleep there.

Speaker 2:

The amount that you tried to like prove that you didn't pay this girl for sex. Like only proves that you paid this girl for sex.

Speaker 1:

My thing is this he was giving her money because he loved her, but he just couldn't be open and public about it. I'm trying to tell you he loved that girl Because you over there, you're not treating her like that. If you didn't love her, this nigga, not that old, he ain't got no reason to really hold it down like that. So he loved that girl.

Speaker 2:

That was his girlfriend, he definitely did.

Speaker 1:

That's his bitch.

Speaker 2:

You arguing way too much against this shit for me to think that there was nothing that happened. Yeah, that's why it's just. This is how a young nigga um takes these accusations uh ahead. Like this is how he reacts to these types of accusations, because uh older nigga would have been like yeah nobody, or they wouldn't even acknowledge it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

You put some pictures of me out for the pussy okay, but I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

I don't think this is real. I think a lot of them, because and we don't have like, so we're not gonna get in too much into it, but a lot of them are you was already doing shit for content a lot of these things are doing this shit for content. You got aiden raw saying he's quote unquote retiring.

Speaker 2:

You got uh near uh we gotta wrap this up right now, or you need to give me a tissue immediately. Well, we'll wrap it up then, but I'm just saying I think I'm just gonna say cost, not.

Speaker 1:

I think this is fake, I think y'all staging this, I think y'all niggas need to stay in the in the news a little bit. And you know, I'm on to y'all shit, I'm on y'all ass.

Speaker 2:

I feel like you was in the news enough, after being in Jamaica, not giving it up the way you supposed to.

Speaker 1:

It's part of the game, man. It's part of the game. It's part of the game.

Speaker 2:

Niggas was mad because you was daggering the bitches and not busting wines like you supposed to, as an actual Caribbean man, sir that Asian boy with you.

Speaker 1:

They knew you, what kind of time you was on, they knew it. Yeah. All right, so this is Talk FNF TV. We appreciate y'all listening with us. You want to get into your thing?

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