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Hip-hop's raw underbelly gets exposed as we grapple with the ethics of self-diagnosis and the tumultuous climb to reign supreme in rap's competitive domain. Miss Realitea and Rhetoric, serve up a no-holds-barred analysis of hip-hop feuds, the heavy price of partnership betrayals, and the fine line between friendly competition and rap beef. Stripping down the drama of Drake's and Kendrick Lamar's latest lyrical skirmishes, we dissect the potency of their words and how they shape the landscape of an industry fraught with envy and controversy.
As we navigate the murky waters of the music industry, our conversation ventures into deeper social issues like colorism and the often-overlooked narratives within blackhood, mental health, and representation. We shine a spotlight on creators beef, between Brother Nature and Crocodile Cam. We're not just about the beats and bars; we're dissecting the very fabric of hip-hop culture and its intersection with the personal lives of those who stand in the limelight.
To wrap things up, we pivot to the complexities of secret homosexuality and infidelity, diving into a scandal that's as compelling as it is revealing. With speculation around identity and expressions, we untangle a web of clandestine desires that mirror society's own prejudices and stereotypes. Tune in for an episode that promises more than just a peek behind the velvet rope; it's a full backstage tour of the real-life sagas that fuel the fire of the hip-hop world.
you sat there and you and I feel like you said this the way you said it on purpose to make it seem like you were diagnosed, when you're not diagnosed. Apparently you just self-tested and took a couple internet tests or whatever, and then went on this platform saying that you're autistic, and then all of these behaviors are because of the fact that you're autistic when you're not actually diagnosed.
Speaker 2:I feel like that is irresponsible and you got lucky, some deer showed up at your crib. I actually worked for this. I love the smoke in the animal kingdom I had to say about Drake and Kendrick. This is the. What is the? As a Naki Jew versus the Hebrew Israelite, the? Uh, what is the?
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Speaker 5:All right, we're going live in three, two one, I just need everybody to know one thing oh my God.
Speaker 2:That Farrah is trying to sabotage us. I just want y'all to know that she has a plan.
Speaker 1:The drama.
Speaker 2:She's concocted a plan to take us down, slowly but surely, like a poisonous venom.
Speaker 1:That's going through our veins. Why this would be a terrible plan.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to figure out what your end game. I don't know, I'm confused. I don't know what you're planning. It just feels like you're doing and moving in a certain way that you don't want us to thrive.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it just seems like you just is the drama?
Speaker 2:yeah, I literally just dropped my phone in the toilet. Convenient, very convenient. Like to damage work equipment that we need that's not work.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is, it's part of the that's my personal phone, that's used for work.
Speaker 2:So work equipment that you're damaging just so happily to not.
Speaker 1:You know, receive emails I have two other devices that I gave up for work equipment, and this is not one of them. That is one of them.
Speaker 2:You use that all the time. Oh my god. All I'm saying is, if you just will post like you you know, like we talked about and discussed, and you know, get thumbnails done in a timely manner, like we discussed I just feel like we would be taking us to the next level. I do?
Speaker 1:What does that have to do with me dropping my phone in the toilet?
Speaker 2:Because you're purposely putting yourself at a handicap You're trying to damage your equipment. You're trying to take us out and I just feel like I needed to expose. I think I need to let the people know what's going on. I think the people at home need to know what's going on here?
Speaker 1:Obviously, this partnership is a sham.
Speaker 8:I'm just saying it's a sham, I just figured it out.
Speaker 2:I just figured out what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1:You're trying to take us under, because why do you feel the need to expose?
Speaker 2:your wife and partner, because I want the people to know it's not me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm out here getting the clips up.
Speaker 2:It's giving my biggest hater I'm getting the clips pulled up. I'm getting everything set up together. What does it say to you? I'm working hard, trying to get this stuff together and then you just don't post it, hater I feel like you being my biggest hater, you being talk fnf tv's biggest hater, bigger than that sierra person that was trying to attack us on multiple platforms. Oh man, all right, we got to get into this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's more important things to discuss.
Speaker 8:Let's go, woo. She bought me a CVS new bag Euphoria, Euphoria.
Speaker 9:Them superpowers get neutralized. I can only watch in silence. Period on the family front. Cause you hurt Mr Morale, A pathetic master manipulator. I can smell the tails on you now. You're not a rap artist, you're a scam artist with the hopes of being accepted. Tommy Hilfiger stood out, but FUBU never had been your collection. I make music that electrify them. You make music that pacify them. I can double down on that line, but spare you this time. That's random, of kindness. Know your master manipulator and the bitch will lie you too. But don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell truth about you.
Speaker 2:Assemble the light skins. We got to get, we got to get us together. This motherfucker shooting at us. We're under attack, obviously.
Speaker 9:I don't know what we're going to do here.
Speaker 2:We got to cut this off. We got to cut this off.
Speaker 9:Absolutely the fuck. Not Dropping the moorings. I like to an open case. Well, I have, and I feel that both. But I came out straight. I hate when I rap or talk about guns and somebody died. They turn into nuns. Then hop online like pray for my city.
Speaker 9:He faking for likes and digital hugs. His daddy a killer. He wanna be junior. They must have forgot the shit that they done. Dementia must run in his family. But let it get shaky. I park your son. The very first time I shot me a drake, the homie. I told me. The aim is this way. I didn't point down enough today. Ooh, period, period. Gotta cut this off. There's three ghosts left and I see two of them kissing and hugging on stage. I love them to death and in eight bars. I'll explain their phrase. It's nothing. Nobody can tell me. I don't want to talk on my celly. You better fucking keep this shit on. You're cold and ivory. No, I'm a selfish nigga. The crown is heavy. I pray they ain't my real friends. If not, I'm YNW Mellon. I don't like you. I'm a real for you. My hair is the beef. Yeah, fuck all that pushing. Think about pushing me. He's Terrence Thorne, I'm. Terrence Crawford. Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 9:This ain't been about critics, not about gimmicks, not not about who the greatest is. It's always been about love and hate. Now let me say I'm the biggest hater. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. I hate the way that you sneak this. If I catch flight, it's going to be direct. We hate the bitches you fuck because they confuse themselves with real women and notice I said we. It's not fair enough. I like Drake with the melodies. I don't like Drake when he acts up.
Speaker 9:You gonna make a nigga. Bring back puff. Let me see if Didn't tell him where you get your abs from. Ooh, that's a classic surgery, guys.
Speaker 9:Last one Headshot for the year. You better walk around like Daft Punk. Remember A top dog? Who the fuck they think they playing with? Extortion my middle name as soon as you jump off of that plane.
Speaker 9:Bitch, I'm allergic to the lame shit. Only you like being famous Yachty can't get no swag. Neither I don't give EEEE, eeee, EEEE, making me dance, waving my hand, and it won't be no threat. I'm knowing they call you the boy, but where's the man? Cause I ain't seen him yet. Matter of fact, I ain't even bleed him. Yet Can I bleed him when I see you stand by sexy red? I believe you see two bad bitches. I believe you don't like women. It's real competition. You might pop ass with them.
Speaker 9:Let's speak on percentage. Show me your splits. I that sign to a nigga that said he was signed to that nigga. Try to cease and desist on. I like that record On what you ain't. Like that record Back to back. I like that record. I'ma get back to that for the record.
Speaker 9:Why would I call around trying to get turd on niggas? Y'all thinkin' my life is rap. That's hoe shit. I got a son to raise but I can see you don't know nothin' about that. Wakin' them up, know nothing about that. Teaching them morals, integrity, discipline. Listen, man. They don't know nothing about that. Speaking the truth and consider what God's considering. They don't know nothing about that. Ain't 20 V1, it's 1 V20.
Speaker 9:If I got a smack niggas that right with you, yeah, bring him out too. I'll clean him out too. Tell Bean that he better stay right with you. Funny, he was in a film called AI and my sixth sense telling me to off him. I'm a big niggas all in a coffin. Yeah, over here, niggas is dick riders. Tell them run to America to imitate heritage. They can't imitate this violence. What I learned is niggas don't like the West Coast and I'm fine with it. I'll push the line with it.
Speaker 9:Pick a nigga off, one at a time. With it we can be on a three hour time difference. Don't speak on the family family crotty. Talk about me and my family crotty. Someone go bleed in your family crotty. I be at Newhall King eating fried rice with a dip sauce and a blimey crotty. Tell me you're cheesing, fam. We could do this right now on the camera. Crotty, hey, fuck y'all niggas. I don't trust y'all niggas. I wave one finger and thump y'all niggas and fuck the industry too. If you take it there, I'm taking it further. There's something you don't want to do.
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Speaker 9:We don't want to hear you say it no more.
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Speaker 1:Oh my God, Kendrick brought hate back and as soon as I heard this, I thought you would appreciate that hook. He was like I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, the way that you dress. I was like, ooh, my husband would love this. He loves hate.
Speaker 2:I mean I tried my best to do what I could. You know what I lied to everybody I said when it first happened. I said oh, kendrick could have kept that. I was talking shit in spaces that nigga ate. He went at his head.
Speaker 2:It wasn't too, much that you could say Period, it's still not a finisher there way is a finisher in any way. But it was good. It was some good moves in there. I can't even be mad at it, so let's just get into it. Introduce the show. This is Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and wonderful co-host, miss Reality.
Speaker 1:Hi Longtime TDE stan period.
Speaker 2:Let's go oh my goodness, it's gonna be insufferable today. Yeah so we've been covering this Drake, kendrick and the hip hop industry beef For the last. What since like that came out?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been like it keeps giving.
Speaker 2:I love it and we've got a response from Kendrick man. It's a tough one, man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1:Kendrick dropped Euphoria and it's been consuming my entire being since he dropped this song.
Speaker 2:That's vile in the first part. I think we should just start with this. Title of the track is Euphoria. So if y'all not familiar. Drake is the producer of Euphoria, a show that hypersexualizes young girls, Young people. Well, I mean it's high school.
Speaker 1:They're in high school, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they're young girls. That's the one main thing.
Speaker 1:Those boys getting sexualized.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we're talking about Drake right now. That's what it's leaning to.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It was funny too, folks. I saw academics going through an article that talked about. It was like we don't know what drake does on the show. It's just we seen him on set and then we didn't see him anymore and I'm like what happened on set drake.
Speaker 2:What did you do at euphoria? What did you do day one? We'll get into some stuff continue so, like I said, the first start, that was the first shot right there was just calling it that, you know, giving a little google uh translator to it, and then it just starts. At first I thought I was lucky. I thought we was doing this little slow, jazzy shit. We done, we got this, we going to come with a hit.
Speaker 1:You thought he was going to do that for six minutes and 23 seconds.
Speaker 2:I didn't look at the time when I first I just pressed the button, I never even looked at how long the song was, and then that beat dropped and, like I said, I was like we gotta assemble the light skins, we're in trouble. I already know I felt like, uh, when John ruined him for first hurt in the club.
Speaker 1:I was sitting there like that. I was like, oh shit, he got us. He definitely did Kendrick. He he changed the beat twice, so it was three different beats. It was so many different flows, it was so many like double entendres. He was throwing direct shots, he was saying names, he was doing all the things that you want a rapper to do in a diss song.
Speaker 2:I want a rapper to do so. I think we got to start and just go through the lyrics of this, because it was a lot in there.
Speaker 1:It was a lot.
Speaker 2:It basically started off by calling him a degenerate yeah, he, he also.
Speaker 1:He starts out by saying I make music that um electrify him. You make music that pacify him. So the people, the, the lyric breakdowners, were saying that, um, that's kind of like a shot at the low. How do I, how do I correctly say?
Speaker 2:We just say his advances that younger women, OK yeah.
Speaker 1:Taking shots at his, his interest in young girls, and that's why he was saying pacify him.
Speaker 2:Because he did do the whole. I could double down on that, and then you'll be an issue.
Speaker 1:But yeah, and he said he was gonna give him that one, but I think if there's another round, then there's gonna be direct you like little girls bars, like there's gonna be a Millie Bobby Brown bar. There has to be like okay. So, um, the next one I have that stuck out to me, um was how many more fairy tales about your life we till we had enough? How many more black features till you finally feel that you um black enough? I like Drake with the melodies. I don't like drake when he act tough. So he was like you're white essentially I'm just I, just again.
Speaker 2:I this was just very difficult to consume, very difficult to digest. I've been listening to multiple times um, he just went at his head like it was there's nothing else that you can really go about saying about this. He went at his head, he came with everything he needed. You're forgetting there's a lot of shit in there you just don't even really know nothing about. So when he says, have you ever paid half a mil for a case? So what, that is directed to.
Speaker 2:Well, I was going to order, but go ahead, baby. I think you already passed that. Oh, okay, you already went to a whole other section of it. But when he said that he's talking to Drake because there was an alleged story in the independent UK in 2017 where Drake was accused of having to pay a girl who was like $350,000, which is Australian dollars and that transfers over to about $500,000 American, so that's where he was referring to. Have you ever had to pay 500k for an open case because, allegedly, drake had to overseas for a sexual assault?
Speaker 2:I don't know why we didn't hear about that it was like I said it was it was paid off and it was in australia, allegedly okay, jesus christ, he's just over here, all over the place, acting up.
Speaker 1:He said yeah, colin Aubrey, no, I'm selfish. No, I'm a selfish nigga. The crown is heavy. I pray they are my real friends. If not, I'm YNW Melly.
Speaker 2:I don't like bars like that, I'm not really cool. I know a family member of one of the people who was killed in that, like I know the cousin of somebody from y, y and w melly case I hate. So I hate hearing stuff like that because I know that, I know that he was a good dude, went to high school with him, so I feel like that's kind of lame I'm sure he was a good person, but the bar was I mean, the bar was tough like the bar was tougher regardless, I just like I just don't play about when it comes to that because I, like I said, I know people close to that situation.
Speaker 1:And then you know, in the last song Drop and Give Me 50, what's the name of that song? Push-ups, push-ups. Yeah, drake talked about Kendrick Splits. So Kendrick came back and said you was signed to a nigga. That signed to a nigga. That said he was signed to a nigga. Talk about to a nigga that signed to a nigga.
Speaker 2:That said he was signed to a nigga. Talk about um young money t-bar push your. T already said that. That's the only thing we're gonna get into my criticisms of this in a little bit.
Speaker 1:Let me let you get your shit and he's we're just doing the, so get your shit off now, if it's about what we're currently talking about, no, it's just about no, it's because he's done it multiple.
Speaker 2:He did multiple times in the song where he just took other stuff that other people said and just said it different. So I mean, like I said again, I'm not trying to take away from it, but the impact that we discussed that it needed to have this, this wasn't it? Like there's two, this can be a really good song and he went at drake head and this was not enough to be what we talked about was needed like a complete finisher this. Yeah, this is nothing.
Speaker 1:Drake can respond to this well, yeah, drake is gonna respond let's go through the lyrics, let's talk about it. Then we can talk about the ramifications of everything okay, well, yeah, I just thought if you had something to say about um, the young money thing specifically. But then he said um, try. He said try, cease and desist on, like that record. Oh what, you ain't like that record. So apparently dra Drake tried to cease and desist, like that.
Speaker 2:I did see an email that was allegedly going around. I was supposed to be Republic. Ask us, like I said, this is all in-house Interscope and Republic, who Drake above what? They're all in the universal. So this is a universal civil war, so well.
Speaker 1:I would like to get into that in just a little bit either too okay, um, this was like my favorite bar. He said ain't 20 v1, it's 1v20. If I gotta smack niggas, that right with you again I like that the writing allegations.
Speaker 1:Like I said, this is nothing new, like these are just well, I think the writing allegations are always going to be a thing when it's in the rap industry and right, writing your own shit is very important. Like you, you get more respect if you write on your own, and the allegation that you don't write your own shit being substantiated over and over again like is kind of crazy. The niggas, they gonna keep bringing it up because it's. It's a form of disrespect. I mean in this field specifically it is.
Speaker 2:But, like again, we, we know, know Drake is putting pen to shit, though Like that's where it's just an allegation at this time. Yeah, he's going, there's some songs that he's getting a straight reference from, but we can't act like his pen hasn't been proven. It's on, it's documented and credited. His pen has been proven. That's what I said. Like, the shit sounded good.
Speaker 2:The hardest shit on here was when he was going on about his kid. That was the. That was the hardest part, because that is something most normal people can relate to in regards to, uh, easy shots at somebody. In regards to that, everybody isn't great. Everybody isn't great drake, everybody isn't going to be living the, the, the creme de la creme of their dream, and so that's what you can say. Oh, yeah, you're not around. Well, yeah, of course he's not gonna be around his kids, niggas out here being amazing, like around the country, around around the globe. So, like I said, but that shit was hard away, he just went at that. Nigga about it. It sounded good. Like I said, it sounded good to record this song. For people who, like you, who are drake haters and who are like, uh, not really invested in the beef that's going on, but they just like to be able to take shots at Drake. He really went at what people would say of Drake, what the common folk would criticize Drake about, the whole you white.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did say in the song that he don't have time to be digging up dirt on Drake, because he's actually spending time raising his children.
Speaker 2:Do we think Drake's not raising his son?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's cap.
Speaker 1:A little boy around, Like he be posting them when he with him, but like we don't, Like you said he with him, I wouldn't be surprised if Drake wasn't raising his son.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's raising him just as much as any other celebrity is Like calling the nanny and making sure the nigga alive every day.
Speaker 1:He said I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress. I hate the way that you sneak this in. If I fight, it's going to be direct.
Speaker 2:I don't see how I can't bring color. People have been getting hate on our clips about the light skin discussions I've been having on the show. How can been getting hating on my our clips about the light-skinned discussions I've been having on the show? How can I not bring colorism when you do that? That is literally hate from you just being light-skinned. Every light-skinned nigga has heard that from somebody who was a darker complexion from them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in that same like realm of topics, he said um, he hates when drake says nigga and it's just cringeworthy. It's's not that deep, but it just makes him cringe when Drake says nigga.
Speaker 2:I can't believe niggas when niggas say that, when they on songs with Drake saying nigga. So, like I said, a lot of stuff sounded good to the ear, but once you really know what's going on, it's like a lot of it was just it was funny business.
Speaker 1:It's just again, again low-hanging fruit. To go at drake with um, what else? So he said y'all think all my life is rap shit. Yeah, we talked about that. He got a son raised but he sees that drake don't know nothing about that. He said dementia must run in his family. But let it get shaky, I park your son. The first time I shot at drake the homie um had yeah um, the homie had told me that aim it this way.
Speaker 1:I didn't point down enough. Today I show you, I learned from those mistakes. So he was basically just saying, like I'm these are direct shots like you're gonna know that this is about you no, he went.
Speaker 2:He went with that one. That was a tough one, that was. That was one of the better bars and that's.
Speaker 1:That's one of the ones that everyone was going crazy over. And then there was a little pharrell thing. I didn't know um drake like shot at pharrell a little bit a while ago so he said um, I don't like you popping shit at pharrell For him, I inherit the beef. Yeah, fuck all that pushing pee. Let me see you push a T. You better spin off again on him. You think you about pushing me?
Speaker 2:So this is about Pharrell did an auction and Drake had bought a whole bunch of the jewelry that he was selling at his auction and then did a music video like flexing on Pharrell in the music video. So that's where a lot of that has come from. There's always been a little bit of static between the neptunes and ovo uh, so that's where that kind of came from. And then also there was another bar you didn't mention earlier where he was talking about, uh, tupac and about a ring. So that ring drake paid this is probably like considered the most expensive item in hip hop that you could buy and that's what Drake purchased was a ring that was designed by Tupac and that's what he was basically referencing. He was trying to get that ring from him.
Speaker 1:And then, while we're on the subject of Tupac, tupac's estate sent Drake a cease and desist, or they said that they were going to sue him for um, the freestyle that he put out a while ago. I forget the name of the freestyle but it had tailor-made freestyle and it had um a ai generated clip of tupac's voice and that's not an accurate description of what it was what was it?
Speaker 1:was drake using a tupac filter over his voice to it sounded like tupac and they threatened to sue, which is why drake took it down I mean, he just didn't want to have to deal with the legalities of it.
Speaker 2:But there, wasn't probably just wasn't really worth it it wasn't gonna, wasn't nothing they could do, really like, because his images isn't being used. You can basically argue that's not really his voice, like you can hear drake's voice underneath the voice mod. Like literally, he just did it, just because he didn't want to have to deal with the drama. He just like took it off.
Speaker 2:But it was already out in the ether. Everybody had a copy of it if they wanted it. That's why I don't like him saying the cease and desist in this song, trying to shit on Drake for trying to get all extra political when you're doing the same thing and that's what drake. That's where drake's push-ups is just saying like people don't understand, like that's. All he was just saying is like you're just like me, you're just not as good as me. That's literally what push-ups was about. You're just you're. You got the same kind of splits, you and the same kind of deals. There's nothing special about you as an artist that's different for me, except your content yeah, you're lyrically much better in every way that's debatable, um.
Speaker 1:So he said, yeah, my first one, like my last one. It's a classic, you don't have one let your core audience stomach that don't tell them where you get your abs from that's it.
Speaker 2:And you had to do a good bar about the abs when you said that other shit, because that other stuff wasn't true. We know drake has had classic albums. That's what I have to come here and defend if you.
Speaker 1:If you are like a snobby hip-hop person, I don't think you think drake has a classic album.
Speaker 2:Take care of views.
Speaker 1:Come on now if you're reading this too late like I think I read somewhere that like to pick a butterfly is still. It's still on the billboard 100. I'm not saying that it's not.
Speaker 2:To this day.
Speaker 1:I don't think Drake has that type of longevity.
Speaker 2:Drake was on the billboards for, like Drake, has the longest streak from being top on the billboards.
Speaker 1:For a whole album, for his music in general. I don't think for a whole album.
Speaker 2:That's what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying the entire project.
Speaker 2:He may not have had projects that's on their billboard, but he stayed on the billboard chart for like it was like the longest streak ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just saying that it impacts me more that Kendrick's entire album has been on the Hot 100, basically since it dropped?
Speaker 2:Does it impact you more or is it just an ESPN stat that you can use to try to act like? Drake is Kendrick is somewhat better of a total artist package.
Speaker 1:I don't think stats make anything better, so no, that's what you mean.
Speaker 2:You brought up the stats, stat girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just brought it up because I saw it and we're talking about them. Yeah, but I mean anytime you bring up them numbers, Drake is inflated, but I always, whenever we, whenever we have this conversation between Drake and Kendrick, I always say that the lyricism and the artistry is what's most important, which is why I like Kendrick more than I like Drake.
Speaker 2:And what I say is that it's not that much of a difference. The degree from the difference is not as much as people want to say it is.
Speaker 1:It's literally just the content and the content of their music. The content, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's literally the difference Everything else is the same.
Speaker 1:That music, the content, that's, that's it. That's literally the difference. Well, yeah, everything else is the same, that's the most important thing because they're musicians, drake's.
Speaker 2:But y'all people like I'm not gonna get too much into this because I've already said it before, but y'all try to undervalue the love stuff when it comes to drake, but y'all would say it is the greatest thing if he was just a straight r&b singer. So that's why I don't. I don't get that like when he's talking about emotions and feelings that is similar to the uprising and things of that nature to Kendra, I feel like if he I said in Spaces the other day God's plan is we going to be all right, all lives matter version.
Speaker 2:It is. That's what it is. God's plan is all lives matter versions and we going to be all right, yeah but like okay, god's plan, you can play in the club.
Speaker 1:When I heard we Gon' Be Alright, I cried, literally I cried, and then sometimes I still cry when I listen to that song, depending on what's happening in the world and where I am in my life. If I hear we Gon' Be Alright, I'm gonna tear up a little bit. Not a Drake song has ever made me tear up. Maybe that's not true, maybe I was gonna listen. Let me finish the sentence I'm saying I was going to say maybe girls love Beyonce. That was my shit.
Speaker 1:That was my shit. There's tons of early Drake that put you in your feelings Like let's just keep it a bean, but I was. I've never been a huge Drake fan, so Because that's hate, because I've never connected to it that much, let me tell you something there was, I was a drake fan right up until he dropped. Say something with dr dre I. You probably don't even remember that song is it dr dre, or is that to timbaland? Timbaland.
Speaker 2:Yes, they sound this, that's the same nigga in my head.
Speaker 1:I'm niggas from totally different coasts totally different coast, but he dropped that song and then it literally like hot 97 and power 105 played the fuck out of that song and his just the sound of his voice. I was just turned off too completely. I was just like I don't want to hear this nigga anymore. But before that I was a huge drake fan and then all of the I just never really connected to anything he was dropping, like until that's what I'm going to say. I love a Caribbean Drake. I love when he steals other cultures' identities. Maybe Drake do a Haitian thing, you know, pop out to Haiti, but yeah.
Speaker 2:I still you got to get Wy clef to come with him haitians don't respect y clef I mean drake don't know that, like drake, just going with the first haitian, you know he should take anybody else I just think that, like a lot of women, especially a lot of the black women, started to kind of fall off of Drake when his music changed from crooning about women to saying I'm so on top that I really don't need none of y'all like that. When the music started changing to that, I think a lot of that's when he lost a lot of his core women fan base Cause people were trying to say he oh red pill and all that other stuff that he doing his music emo in cell music.
Speaker 1:even though he can't be an in cell he's getting some, but none do people say that about his music, that he's making incel music. Yeah, people say that all the time, but I feel like he making fuck boy music, but that's kind of one in the same it's not just because a fuck boy generally is actually fucking the girls and yeah, but do they not have like kind of the same rhetoric towards women?
Speaker 2:well, women, just anytime you're something a woman doesn't want you to be, at that particular time you're just one of those names like you could literally not fall into description at all. And because you're not, you're doing something a woman doesn't like that you're doing, you just automatically fall into that let's finish really quickly.
Speaker 1:Um, he said when I see you stand by sexy red, I believe you see two bad bitches he ate. I thought that was very funny. He said I believe you don't like women. That's a real competition. You might pop ass with him.
Speaker 2:So there's another bar that you skipped over to where he talks about. He doesn't like that drake makes these women feel like they're real women oh yeah, he's, so that's.
Speaker 1:That might be another. That's why I thought little girls bar.
Speaker 2:I brought that up into the spaces. I says are we talking about that? He's saying that you're making women who are not, who are young girls, and saying that they're women, or are you saying that the women that you're dealing with order or what I would? I call it the deplorables at the time, but are you trying to say they the holes, they the joints?
Speaker 1:so it was a double entendre with it because, again, he's associated, unfortunately, with both yeah, and then did you see um see Joe say that he gets all his tea on Drake through his love of escorts.
Speaker 2:I mean Sin used to date Drake.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Sin used to date Drake.
Speaker 1:The girls be pillow talking. We have learned from Chris Brown.
Speaker 2:Melissa Ford used to literally date Drake.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:So I mean, yeah, he has a lot of insight. They literally have a similar type of women. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1:Well, all these niggas have a similar type of women. It's a couple of niggas in the industry that date women who don't pass the brown paper bag test. Other than that, they all dating the same bitches. We know this for a fact. But I was going to say that we learned from Chris and um offset Quavo's beef that, um, they be the rappers be getting tea with each other from pillow talking with each other's women. Oh, we already like in each other's hoes and stuff like that. Like y'all niggas is messy.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's part of the competition of the game, and the women y'all use it as a way to get on the good graces of the guy, because if you're saying all this stuff that he's saying, you're filling up his ego. It's just all a tool of manipulation.
Speaker 2:That's all it is they just get manipulated by the women. They're placating their egos. It's all like I. I said these guys to be as quote-unquote talented as they are, they get hoodwinked by the lowest iq women on the daily. Like these women just got to think for five seconds longer than them and then they're gonna get over on them because they just think so.
Speaker 1:Less of them yeah, usually when people don't um expect anything of you, you can get away with a lot, so yeah, and then, like I said, who's really stupid in the situation?
Speaker 2:for real. So do we have any more lyrics that we need to touch on?
Speaker 1:um, he ended it by um saying we don't want to hear you say nigga, no more, which was the same, like you know, same melody as uh kanye's get him high. When he was like we don't want to hear that weak shit, no more. Same shit. Um, do you think because he he said that? Um, when he said that, that it's not just the way that he feels, he's, this is the way the culture feels. How did you feel about that? I mean because Suge Knight was like yeah what.
Speaker 2:I think that it's just it's clear that he he spoke to a common group of people who I'm gonna keep it real niggas envy drake, I'm sorry, drake lives the life that we all wish we could have, access to all the people that we wish we could have. So, yeah, he speaks to people in a way that, yes, it's common, that this common language it is, I'm sorry, like there is easy to speak hater to other people you think it's just like plain jealousy?
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, not, not from him, actually not him. I think that the angle that he's taking knows that people have a jealousy a jealousness to drake like they envy his lifestyle. Like you, you get upset at the, the only 36 year old nigga who can continue to do the things that he do without getting the criticism that he gets. Everybody else gets it. That that that hurts your ego, that that makes you upset. It's like why do I have to? Like I think about this a lot when I, when I hear older people who are in drake's circle criticize them and they're like they got families and stuff. And it's like when I hear you're like, damn, why do I have to settle down with my family and be out here? Why couldn't I be the, the rapper that's still going up and going strong in the club with no family attachments and things?
Speaker 2:of that nature so many of those, though I hear that through the hate all the time, with drake, like that's exactly what I hear you, y'all want to do this. Y'all wish y'all could execute this in the manner that he does. Regular people, regular people and and his peers.
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of delusional for you as a regular person to be jealous of drake like you're not even nowhere near his atmosphere that doesn't stop people from being envious of you when you, when they see you at the top, when you're on every commercial, all this other stuff like that, when you're just the biggest, whatever you are. People don't like that, just like LeBron James. People criticizing shit on LeBron James all day yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm a sane person, so I couldn't initially wrap my head around being jealous of somebody who you do not know at all and isn't affecting your life whatsoever.
Speaker 2:So you never seen the girl with the wagon and she was getting all the guy attention, or the attention of the guy that you liked.
Speaker 1:And then well, no, you know that girl and that's affecting your life. He's, she's getting the attention from the guy that you like. I'm just saying a celebrity, someone who you do not know. Like being jealous of beyonce is crazy bitch you're. I can you work at waffle house, okay?
Speaker 2:I can show. I can do another example. So there's been women who dealt with me because I look like their favorite rapper. So the fact that I look like their favorite rapper may have took their attention away from another man and put it on me. So I can see somebody saying now I have an animosity to this famous rapper because the chick that I mess with left me for a dude. Like there's stuff like that.
Speaker 1:That can happen. There's reasons why you can have. Yeah, I just, I just think it's all stupid reason but you hate drake, so you have a hate for drake. No, I just think having jealousy towards a celebrity is delusional as hell. I don't like drake's music that much. I don't enjoy it and I think he's corny that's all I do. He does pop out and do a thing that I enjoy once in a while. I need to max win. I like that a lot I did but generally that nigga kind of makes me cringe.
Speaker 2:That's hate shout out to the tweeter and the leaders out there. That's all I gotta say on that. All y'all drizzy's coming like. So this is what I'm excited for, because there was no jugular's throne, there was. Nobody went for the, the okey-doke for this Kendrick shit that Drake can respond and it's going to be better than anything Metro could ever cook up. Like the beat is going to be going crazy that he's going to be singing on the hook. He might even he might even croon on the bridge. A little bit on Kendrick, like what's coming is coming and we got information. Like I on the bridge. A little bit on Kendrick, like what's coming is coming and we got information. I didn't talk about a little information, I found just a little deep digging.
Speaker 1:Go ahead.
Speaker 2:It was reported by the Buzz Cindy or Cincy, and they were saying Real, reputable journalism here.
Speaker 2:Just reporting what I'm seeing and reading when I'm going off these articles. And they brought up your boy, kendrick Lamar. Allegedly they were speaking with a security guard and they said that he was involved in an assault with a woman that left in what they quoted as a bloody mess. So somebody said I'd be with the bodyguards, like Whitney. They got a guard here saying that Kendrick assaulted a woman and some people have reported that potentially it may be his non-Negro wife, so maybe that's what Drake was referring to.
Speaker 1:Non-Negro like is crazy. But that is also another thing that Drake can say. Because you're not married to a black woman, sir.
Speaker 2:I just think that that's what's going to come out of this. I think that's what he was referencing too, not that she was cheating on you with the security guard, that the security guard knows information that would be damning to your likeness and that was reported out there. I think that's what he meant about the whole fake story. Because out there, I think that's what he meant about the whole fake story. Let's keep this. He tried to say that Drake came up with stuff because of Mr Morale, but he was also implying that those stories were fake. So then how do we believe anything you're saying on this album? There's so much hypocrisy going on in this.
Speaker 1:The stories on Mr Morale were fake.
Speaker 2:That's what he was saying, implying Art is art.
Speaker 1:You can just make up stuff, but then you can't say that you're real in the music.
Speaker 2:You can't say you're real in the music if you're making up stories.
Speaker 1:No, it's not your real story. It's not your story, but it is a story that needs to be told. People do that all the time. Yeah, but they weave together stories and narratives that they want to tell on albums.
Speaker 2:I need to see the interview of him talking about this album, saying that it was all make-believe stories. Because if I don't see it, you out here doing the hip-hop shit that's supposed to be your story. You ain't Ply's nigga Ply's was telling his brother's story. All right Is there anything else we need to get to we're on 40 minutes on this?
Speaker 1:no, I don't think there's anything else we need to get to as far as um kendrick and drake, but I um, I think round one goes to kendrick and then we'll see what happens in round two. What's?
Speaker 2:your. What are your rounds consist of, then?
Speaker 1:um, like that, uh drake shit the push-ups, and then this that's not around.
Speaker 2:You know how rounds work.
Speaker 1:Listen literally I've been seeing literally joe budden said round one goes to kendrick, so I was just going off of. If everyone else is saying that this is round one, he's not going to give his eskimo brother any props, so we don't.
Speaker 2:So we can take Joe's opinion out of this. Okay, the round is push-ups versus euphoria. That is the round.
Speaker 1:Okay, so round one goes to Kendrick.
Speaker 2:I'm going to stay with Drake. I think Drake still came with the heater because he tagged on the Taylor shit on the side and the fact that he was taunting him and he had to cry and get Tupac's family to go. Well, not Tupac's family, tupac's estate, because there's a white man that owns Tupac's estate. Look it up.
Speaker 1:Why does a white man own Tupac's estate?
Speaker 2:Because when his mom passed away that's who she gave it to why he didn't have kids. It wasn't like Tupac had little pox around oh, lord little pockies but uh, so no it, like I said I'm I'm still going with drake I need. The reason I'm going with drake is I'm tired of everybody saying I'm sending warning shots.
Speaker 1:Send a real shot you didn't think that kendrick was sending real shots and he's sending warning shots.
Speaker 2:He even said it on there.
Speaker 1:I'm keeping it friendly like, yeah, but then he literally said that he wasn't bleeding him, and then he flipped it and then said a bunch of shit after that. Yeah, but the bleeding which were direct shots.
Speaker 2:They were direct shots, but they were not big time again. We've already created the precedent to uh, push a. T is the precedent of a big shot. I am you are hiding a child. Was not, was anything in here like that? Nothing in here was.
Speaker 1:You are hiding a child, that's yeah, you wanted that's the bar. If your standard is salaciousness, then yeah, but my standard is just bars and rap shit and flow and metaphors and double entendres.
Speaker 2:So the best guys at that, so it that all that shit nullifies itself. It has to go through the salaciousness, because these guys are two of the top at their craft. There's no point of saying who did X, y, because we know they can do both great. You have to bring the one who's going to destroy.
Speaker 1:Drake is not a top lyricist. This has to you?
Speaker 2:sick as fuck. What are you talking about? You don't even listen enough drake to say that, because he's not a top lyricist. The drake I listen to is basic as fuck, because you listen to the pop, because you don't listen to b-sides.
Speaker 1:Are you listening to the 8 am's and the?
Speaker 8:in the the time? No, I'm definitely not listening to drake. Really rap the shit. That's where drake really raps.
Speaker 1:The shit I hear in the first place is watered down, fucking nonsense so okay, you and then there's once in a while I come across a song. Once in a blue moon, like every five years, drake drops a song that I like okay, like I said, that's you.
Speaker 2:What you're hearing is the for everyone. Shit to me, but there is good gas once you go inside the store and you actually look at what he's putting out there. The stop. The timestamp records have all been epic, except the one he let his son rap in Kendrick. Don't have for everyone mid, he just have carefully curated, because he doesn't push himself to be the kind of artist that produces on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have to because once he drops it stays on the Hot 100 forever.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool Forever, because you're pulling on the heartstrings of oppression. That's cute.
Speaker 1:He's not pulling on the heartstrings of oppression?
Speaker 2:Yes, he is.
Speaker 1:Because we Gon' Be Alright is not pulling on the heartstrings of oppression. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:That's literally what his whole charade is. It's being the advocate. That's what it is right, Go ahead. That's what I'm right go ahead that's what I'm saying that's the word I'm trying to figure out. I'll make sure I don't know what point you're trying to. He's trying to be the activist that doesn't fix anything.
Speaker 2:That's who he's trying to be the activist that doesn't fix anything. I don't think kendrick's trying to be an activist oh my goodness, he's trying to be a pseudo uh activist pseudo telling the story that he went through yes, and, like I said, he is wearing the costume of a fake huey newton, like that's literally what his whole appeal is I don't think so, because he's not.
Speaker 1:He's not going out and trying to like actually change anything.
Speaker 2:He's dropping albums that are culturally actually he has been seen at events and things like that, but for him for that to be the statement that you utter shows you how much of a farce it is and a hypocrite he is you.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have to do that. You can just be an artist who is educated and that was no name, said you literally. Is that what? No name said I don't know what. No name said what did no?
Speaker 2:name say said to uh j cole, that y'all speak this kind of pseudo language of it, but y'all aren't actually doing the information and doing the work out there. She was very critical of that. She even said him by name, I think she.
Speaker 1:She even hinted at kendrick in that too, she probably did like, but I don't think he needs to be in the streets. I think the the job that he's doing is significant enough I think I just making people have conversations. I disagree.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I feel like, just as drake pulls on hedonism and things of that nature in his music, he does the same thing with racial oppression, things like that, so he takes, they both pull on that and then not every album is like that either. Like I said, there's damn wasn't like that, but for the most part, that's his.
Speaker 2:Each album is like a different part of his life yeah, again, I'm not saying that where you keep trying to make it so microscopic. When I'm saying the overarching theme that he presents is that he is that, this person yeah, I disagree with you that's.
Speaker 1:It's very much so in the details of it if you look at it because he had one album that was very heavy on, like that content matter, but that was, that was it, and he still rolled with that identity, though the first one was more about hood shit, and then he had the super conscious album, and then he had, like the black men go to therapy, family album like it was all three and I don't see how you don't three different parts of black manhood.
Speaker 2:I don't see how you don't all see how that slides into each other, like you're. I think you're willfully not looking at it, but all of that like whole conversation.
Speaker 1:I don't think all of it slides into that, falls into oppression.
Speaker 2:Yes, it does Literally black mental health. When you just said going to get therapy, that's a big problem because that's been uh taken away from us, uh what was the mental health? Father. What was the other one, the the first?
Speaker 1:uh, it was more like his like the gangsta young, his young, that's all oppression right there. Like like, uh, he's not talking about him getting herpes or not herpes. And like, oh shit, fucking fucking this girl and this and that, like that was the first album, that was like young hood stuff, like him working at like burger king and quitting his job and this and that that was that album.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I have to explain it more. I don't see how you don't see it, but you just willfully don't want to see that, I think you're watering it down. I'm generalizing it. I just literally said that.
Speaker 1:It's not. His body of work, isn't about oppression, it's about blackhood.
Speaker 2:Which is associated with oppression, literally blackness.
Speaker 1:You associate with oppression literally you're with you.
Speaker 2:You associate with oppression. You have to in this country. Black americans, you again, we're not from overseas, we don't have to have the c-nigga treatment. We literally was in the oppression the whole time. All right, so we can switch it up a little bit, but I'm gonna stay on the colorism uh section of hip hop, because it's it's spreading everywhere. Everybody is getting infected by this.
Speaker 2:Now we're going to go to the female range of this. So Ice Spice I don't know if you heard has been accused of cheating on boyfriend with Lil Tjay also being a colorist and fatphobic. So if y'all are not familiar with singer Baby Storm took to X recently in a series of posts and attempts to expose the Bronx rapper, and again, this is all according to Hip Hop DX, along with pictures, screenshots. She pledged to expose the 24-year-old for being a fake friend and a bad person. Did you see any of these tweets on the timeline?
Speaker 1:I did. Baby Storm is having a psychotic break and she has been for a very long time.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's fair. I don't think that is fair at all.
Speaker 1:She's been going on a rampage. She tweeted that Rico Nasty stole her identity.
Speaker 2:We don't know that.
Speaker 1:Rico Nasty.
Speaker 2:We don't know that. I feel like this girl is on to something.
Speaker 1:She's had the same style for the entire time she's been out.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be honest with you. I feel like this girl is on to something. I think she's aware of something that we don't know and she's exposing it. She's getting on that other side of hip hop. I like to see that the young girls out here stepping up. Did you see? Did you read any of the text messages? She was trying to expose people what's going on in Palestine and Ice Spice is like why would you do that for someone who would never do it for you? Selfish red bitch selfish, that is selfish.
Speaker 1:Just just you over here in a great privileged place and you just mad at somebody for putting awareness on something and then, then we got accusations of colorism and fat phobic well, baby storm isn't the first person who has accused ice spice of being colorist, because cleo trappa also, I think, did um. That was like her quote-unquote best friend, and she said that she was just using her to just look like she was blacker she even said that, um, that ice spice doesn't have any black in her, like no black family, parent or anything like that.
Speaker 2:She was going in, she was exposed and shit, like if we being honest, and both these girls look like they both the victim of it, but they're from the bimbo, the bimbo occasion of hip-hop like this is baby storm, baby storm, giving off that a little bit too a little bit she's a little bit more aware.
Speaker 1:She's definitely like the alternative.
Speaker 2:She's a little bit more aware but her aesthetic is very lean to the bimbo-ication of hip-hop.
Speaker 1:Have you seen Baby Store?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've looked at pictures of her. I've seen her with her little Mexican boyfriend or husband. I've looked at the pictures. That is a different brand of bimbo-ism To me. I could be wrong. But, most definitely Ice Spice Lotto. That is definitely the bimbofication of hip-hop. Like I expect them to be girls who were like I don't care about that, I'm just trying to look good. I'm just in the booth like like that's, that's what I see when I, when I hear that and I just feel like maybe baby storm is just trying to break away from the bimbofication.
Speaker 1:Why would Ice Spice have anything worth saying about Palestine in the first place?
Speaker 2:I mean you don't have to be worth saying, but you don't have to criticize somebody else for saying something that may be worth saying what was she trying to do?
Speaker 1:Who was she trying to?
Speaker 2:expose. She wasn't exposing anybody. She was just saying like she thought that it was weird that Baby Storm was going to speak for people who would not do the same thing for her. So, she was just basically being a selfish little red bitch. That's what I'm just saying, that's what she was being. So I mean, I'm not mad. I hope Baby Storm, whatever she's trying to succeed with this. I hope it works, Cause we need to see some more Brown sisters taking these light girls down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said. She said a lot about a bunch of different people and it's just been for like days at a time and it's a lot.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, the messages was super long. It was a lot to get through. She was, but she was just saying that there was just a lot to get through. She was, but she was just saying that there was just a lot of a lot of bs. So I'm I'm excited to see if she can turn this into something. Does she have good music? Have you ever heard any of her music? No, she got a disice spice on the next record.
Speaker 1:Next track record we melt nice I'm not a baby storm fan speaking of colorism. While we're on colorism, let's stay here here, danny lay I think that's how you say her name the baby's um baby mama she. Recently she made a video talking about how she doesn't understand why her music isn't successful anymore. And there's no like listen she, I guess it was making its way up. She had like that one song, I forget, but I know she had one song that was like popular, uh, like during the pandemic like was it?
Speaker 2:was it like popular like? It was like tick tock, pop, like the labels are pushing it popular or people were playing it popular both.
Speaker 1:It was like on tiktok and stuff and that's not enough for me, but continue and she had the little music video and whatnot and then dropped her album after that. But, um, yeah, she said that the and it didn't seem like the label was trying to market her at all anymore and she doesn't know why. And I was like when's the last time we seen Danny Lay? Right, the last time we seen her was a DUI and celebrities get DUIs but her DUI she was so drunk that she didn't realize that the person was still attached to her car with the scooter and she dragged him for a little bit. I don't think he died but, like, girl, come on.
Speaker 1:And then the time before that I know everyone remembers she did that she put out that song. Talk about yellow bone is what he want, girl. Your whole fan base was probably black women and then you made a song taunting this, this, this man's baby mom, talking about oh, he want me instead of you when I'm light skin, because I'm light skin like so you be missing all the like the best parts to really shit on somebody with.
Speaker 2:So you forgot about the whole live that the baby did.
Speaker 1:That basically made her like the biggest psychopath in the world bro, the I'm just the women didn't care about that part that much, I forgot about that completely, but she looked absolutely insane. She looked like a domestic abuser, like the baby all already was not in good social standing, with just his fans and people in general well, this was before that that gay shit that he said no, we just was not liking this nigga.
Speaker 2:I think you were just on that hater track, you generally on the hater shit.
Speaker 1:I liked him for a while, and then he I think it was until he punched the bitch in the face in the crowd. No, this is when y'all I don't even remember when I stopped liking him.
Speaker 2:Because when he said something about Meg, that's when you did, like everybody else. When he said the thing about him, fucking Meg and all that shit that's when you stopped liking him.
Speaker 1:Was that after Danny Lay? Yeah.
Speaker 2:That Megan shit. Yeah, that was way after he had his experience with Danny Lay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I didn't like him before the Danny Lay shit. Okay, so damn, I forgot what I was going to say.
Speaker 2:And then you also forget he wasn't even publicly claiming her for her entire pregnancy. She never did anything that was worth giving a W for.
Speaker 1:She was literally. That's such a huge L. This man was not claiming you. You was pregnant. You was going back and forth with his baby mom on the shade room Mad crazy stuff and then he wasn't claiming you the whole time. And then you make a song taunting his baby mother talking about yellow bone is what he want and then after that she made the song.
Speaker 2:Then he did all that.
Speaker 1:That's what made it worse and then after that, y'all on live fucking tussling.
Speaker 2:Danny lays in it. Let's just put it out there. She's the idiot girl who got more attention than she probably deserved because of her skin complexion and then apparently the woman is cuban.
Speaker 1:See white, spicy white, like it's cool. You're not a yellow bone. Technically false claim. Yellow bone is a light skin, thick black woman. Is that not what a yellow bone is?
Speaker 2:like I don't think, correct me, I think would think was never a requirement okay, is red bone the thick bread. It's never none. None of None of that has to do with a requirement. It's all about skin complexion.
Speaker 1:Okay, whatever, You're not a yellow bone because you're not black Like that's a light-skinned black woman.
Speaker 2:I mean she's clearly false claiming if she's pure Cuban, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have any afro in her because she's Cuban. Well, yeah, you could still have afro in you, but that's girl, you, not a yellow bone I just think that the main talking points is just the fact that she's taking l's in every, every part of her life. That she's done publicly. That's the song wasn't good.
Speaker 1:The relationship wasn't good, you got arrested. The criminal record isn't good just everything that is a mess.
Speaker 2:That's where you, that's where you shit on someone not like that. You don't. You don't gotta shit on anywhere else but in those kind of ails. That's why she doesn't have any success musically. It's because you've shown yourself to be no one. Nobody wants to follow nobody wants to be you. You looked crazy in those lives we gotta stay more in the hip-hop. Suki has some shit to say about jt so jt dropped.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I've been waiting for this song for a very long time. I'm pretty and a motherfucker who's be looking okay, and um, in the song there's a bar. She said fake ass veneers, cracked her tooth on a crab leg, stayed talking shit, put a muzzle on this bitch, something like that. Right, not the exact lyrics lyrics, but it's around there. So all of the girls were saying that this bar could either be about Suki or Cardi B, because how crazy is it that there are two people that this bar could be about? Like two people that we definitely know had veneers and broke they tooth on a crab leg.
Speaker 2:Let's hear it. Let's hear it out Suki.
Speaker 6:So I just want to clear this up real quick because I was locked up when the song came out. I come home I look at my phone. Everybody keep tagging me. They keep tagging me and they tagging Cardi too.
Speaker 6:They said JT was trying to diss me, or Cardi B. So she said in the song a broke her cheap ass veneers on some crab legs and she always be talking shit. I did. Now we all know I don't broke my my teeth on some crab legs. I love crab legs, shit. That's normal shit.
Speaker 6:I ain't have to post it. I post because I'm a real bitch and I live my truth. But I don't talk shit about bitches. I I always show love, never hate on a bitch, never call the bitch name, always show love. And I was at jt burka party. It was hugs and giggles. So I don't feel like she's talking about me and I don't take her as the girl that just start trouble with random people when she dropping us on. So they say there's trouble in paradise for her and cardi, y'all bitch is trying to hype me up to roast the bitch. I ain't I. I can't, I ain't going, I'm missing going. You feel me like jt? Just clear it up, because I know you see the people keep tagging me a card here, only tagging me a heart. Can you let us know who you're talking about, because I know Cardi dropped Broke Heart Soup on a bagel, but I just don't feel like me. Oh yeah, it was a bagel.
Speaker 6:I don't see no shade, so just let me know.
Speaker 2:So you did it on a crab leg actually and you think it could be Cardi.
Speaker 1:Well, everyone was saying it might have been Cardi, because she literally like maybe a month ago, posted that video of her veneer being broken. But it was a bagel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She literally said a crab leg in the song and you broke yours on a crab leg.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was someone that we, maybe it was neither of them.
Speaker 2:I like JT's. Shoot at all y'all. She need to shoot at all y'all. Bitches. Let's just be honest. I'm a fan of this. I want her to go at everyone. I think when we did the last breakdown we talked about her in the Young Miami bars. Those were hard. If she going at Sukiana, I feel like there's bigger competition you can go after. But hey, yeah, I feel like there's Go at the small fries too.
Speaker 1:There's no reason for her to go at Sukiana. Just like Suki said in the video, she's like I'm not even. We don't even have beef.
Speaker 2:Like I was just at your birthday party. I want that. Any bitch can get in mood. I want that. Jt, I wasn't shooting strays at all, y'all. She's pissed off what Gorilla did. Gorilla made a whole hit song about slapping her and she's pissed off. She's going to all of these rap bitches' head.
Speaker 1:I respect it. We'll see what JT says. She dropped the video and I don't think she's addressed this and cleared up who it's about or anything like that at all yet.
Speaker 2:So did you see the coke bender Nikki did about JT?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't so um.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 5:Drag down this girl, jt, so that she would never know how loved she is in real life, so that she would believe that this is how the world actually views her, so that she would be discouraged, so that she would be discouraged from going out there and rising to the challenge.
Speaker 2:That's cocaine, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1:It's giving hope, the things that you lied about.
Speaker 5:If people have to do all of that. They see your potential. So let me say I'm just so happy that the real is real right now.
Speaker 2:Can y'all get her off of that slave tour? She over here not making no profit off this tour. It's going all straight to her debts. Is she breaking even? She ain't even breaking even, she's she in the negative after this still, and she over there doing lines every night allegedly, and she getting on here where?
Speaker 1:is this from?
Speaker 2:what do you mean? Did you hear her voice? That don't sound like you.
Speaker 1:Just I thought I'm assuming. Okay, I thought it was a legend from somewhere else but go ahead.
Speaker 2:I would have said reported it's not a bad allege I'm just saying this is that is cocaine behavior. She's not even talking about anything that's like that's a madam cocaine behavior for real.
Speaker 1:She said that they thought that JT couldn't rise.
Speaker 2:Like she fucking Maya Angelou, like what are we talking about? Here, oh my God, I need JT to go at her. I need JT to have all the smoke I love to see these brown women. Going at all of these women now.
Speaker 1:JT is not going to go at Nikki because JT needs the barbs right now. Like she is not at a place where she can go at Nikki yet, let her drop this project, nikki, maybe maybe one more.
Speaker 2:Remember, nikki had all them girls on stage a couple of weeks ago, a month ago. Jt wasn't there, was she, she was, she was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like taking pictures with all the rest of the girls. She was like, ah, this she was, she was. Yeah, she was like taking pictures with all the rest of the girls. She was like, ah, this is a great moment. Blah, blah, blah. She opened up for her and everything she was on her story. She was like super happy about it Okay. Yeah, jt is one of Nicki's girls.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking. That's why, to me, this, sounded weird.
Speaker 1:Well, she wasn't saying anything bad about JT, but it was saying like she's saying like she holding herself back or some shit like no, I I feel like she was throwing shade at like. Miami a little bit like she was trying to or like whoever was trying to make JT feel like she wasn't the shit, but she actually is. That's what I got from that okay it was just a coked out way of saying it, but that's I didn't to me.
Speaker 2:I felt like sound like she was saying she was getting out of pocket a little bit. That's what. That's what I was gathering. Oh, maybe I wasn't maybe I didn't hear it correctly, I mean you, you speak, the woman talk better than I getting out of pocket, but again I could be wrong I could be wrong with that? I I do want to see more. I hope we can get more music. Just solo jt, because okay, song wasn't bad. That was, that was it. Girl shit to me sideways.
Speaker 1:Okay, and um, the other song that she dropped in her rollout. Jt has been doing a very, very good job.
Speaker 2:Like I can't wait till this whole project come out all right, we got one more rap girly to talk about.
Speaker 1:No, bars, that's the other one. No bars sideways.
Speaker 2:Okay, period bitch, you did that all right, we got one more rap girly to talk about.
Speaker 1:So you you heard about what happened with stunner girl oh yeah, I saw that video, yep, and I was like that's how, that's how I want my husband to behave so I'm trying to see.
Speaker 2:Maybe we didn't see the same video.
Speaker 1:No, but it was the assailant stood on business.
Speaker 2:If I'm going to slap her ass and defend myself like that, I feel I can slap anybody. I feel him. I understand why he feel like he could slap anybody ass that he want Because he stood on toes with two niggas.
Speaker 1:So the bodyguard, fucking choked, slammed him to the ground. Yeah, the bodyguard, fucking choked, slammed him to the ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had to grab up on him after he dropped them niggas twice. He dropped both her husband and the security guard once, both of them at peace. For them to be two niggas jumping at him, all I'm saying is this If I'm a slap of ass. If I'm a slap of ass and stand on business like he did, you kind of got to get a nigga hit Like he kind of he kind of owned that he won.
Speaker 1:Stunna Girl's husband wasn't really doing much he got his ass whooped, but when the bodyguard came, because the bodyguard came from behind.
Speaker 2:He had to get help.
Speaker 1:So the bodyguard came from behind, choked him and slammed him on the floor immediately and then the husband was like fumbling around, like whatever.
Speaker 2:so that's why the bodyguard that was really doing so that's why I want to know what you said there, why you wanted, why would you want your husband to move, like him, when he was getting folded up?
Speaker 1:well, no, don't get folded up. I want you to immediately go handle business better.
Speaker 7:Not if you're going to get folded up like that, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Don't get folded, but react in a timely fashion, the way he did.
Speaker 2:No, his little ass should have went and called security. He shouldn't even have went over there, because clearly once you go over there, if the nigga hits your girl in any capacity and you go to address him and lose, you might as well just not go hike home.
Speaker 1:You risking all sorts of lifestyle, especially with a bitch like Stunna, like she been on camera on Zeus whooping bitches' asses over and over again, and then she like a blood bitch. That's what I'm saying. The nigga said he GD, she like one of them, hood bitches.
Speaker 2:The nigga who did it said he GD. So I'm just saying like.
Speaker 1:And then he said he was gonna sue so I'm just saying like, and then he said he was gonna sue. I don't know who was gonna do what and then she also said she was gonna sue for like sexual assault no, I heard she said she wasn't gonna snitch.
Speaker 2:She said she wasn't snitching, that was the main thing. She wanted her man to take care of everything like that. And then he almost got folded up like a lawn chair out. There he did. I'm just saying if you thank god, that bodyguard was if you respond like that and there's two niggas coming at you, you kind of deserve to smack that ass. I'm just going to say that he won.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? He deserved to smack that ass, because that is another person's body and she didn't want him to smack her ass. You're right.
Speaker 2:And if you can beat up two niggas after doing it, that's like caveman shit.
Speaker 1:You won nigga you do what you want, but we're not in caveman times Survivor to fittest, survivor to fittest. We have cognitive functions, yeah.
Speaker 2:Clearly she ain't using them because she just said I'm not going to snitch, so we over here not in that kind of operation. So if I'm not snitching operation, that means you're not calling authority meaning the nigga who fucking wins wins.
Speaker 1:Obviously she's been raised in that type of mentality where she's talking about she's so that's the rules you're going about. I think that in general is stupid as fuck. But I think it's also stupid as fuck for you to say that he like deserved to smack her ass because I didn't say that the men around her weren't able to protect her well enough.
Speaker 2:That's like, that's crazy that's a part of it. It, if the niggas ain't around, you can't protect you? Yeah, I think that's really crazy that you said that just now it's wild. Hey, it's wild. Things that happen afterwards. I can't get mad at that. Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm not saying go out there and do it.
Speaker 1:Because if a nigga touched me, does that mean that he like now well, I can't do nothing. He deserves to smack your ass. He got that, he won.
Speaker 2:He won that, he did yeah that's what I'm supposed to do if he beat my ass. You just said he folded me up. What do you want to happen after that?
Speaker 1:That don't mean that what he did was warranted. I mean he won.
Speaker 2:That's what I said. I didn warranted. I mean he won. That's what I said. I didn't say anything else, but he won. That's why you just go call security. Big dog, don't even embarrass yourself like that. If, oh if, they post to jump, you security's supposed to come with two. Why you think the police officer usually got a partner? Because niggas can't really handle the one-on-ones and the niggas that do crazy shit like slap a person's on stage ass, probably also the nigga that can take them one-on-one. Just saying Most niggas ain't wildin' like that unless they can defend themselves.
Speaker 1:This is why all the women been saying they take the bear.
Speaker 2:I don't blame you. I don't blame you.
Speaker 1:Let's continue. What else?
Speaker 2:Did you see that story about the dude who? So there was a story that was going on Timeline, probably like last week, and it was about a girl and this dude where she found out her baby daddy was gay, basically, and he was fooling around with one of his partners.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't see that. You didn't see that at all. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness Well.
Speaker 1:I feel like we've established we have very different algorithms.
Speaker 2:But this is gay shit. This should be all over your timeline Gay relationship shit. This is girl timeline shit. So she go and she has this long message where they talk about it. He says, like the dude like was standing over him one night. He didn't know what was going on. Next thing that happened like nigga was sucking on his dick while he was sleeping, some shit, like really wild boy shit. And then he liked it and then he was just cool with it. They just kept doing it and she found out about it because she like went through his text messages or something. So now they didn't broke up. These niggas is dressed up in matching nike tech suits, going on trips, catching flights and feelings they found love in a hopeless place.
Speaker 1:This is her baby daddy. Sometimes that happens. Listen, I watch chasing reality um on houston. Chasing reality, houston. There's three men on that show. There it's a. It's a gay reality show. There's three men who have children on that show. It happens a lot, bro. We need to. This is going to keep happening if there's such a huge stigma around homosexuality in the black community.
Speaker 2:This has nothing to do with the stigma for homosexuality. You are a liar. You are a liar and a cheater.
Speaker 1:This man probably knew he was gay the whole he is lying.
Speaker 2:But see, that's the thing he knew he was gay. You're focusing on the gayness. The wrong part is he's lying and being a cheater. Well, yeah, that who gives a?
Speaker 1:fuck who he's doing it with. Well, I I thought that was the the part that made it go viral, because if it was a woman, yeah, that's because people are homophobic.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying if we being critical of what's going on has zero to do with him being gay.
Speaker 1:a feel like the more interesting conversation is that, but him cheating is crazy also.
Speaker 2:What do you? I mean, what do you elaborate? What you mean by that, the more interesting elaborate.
Speaker 1:Because he's it's a DL. Nigga Like you, didn't just wake up to a man over you one day sucking your dick. You didn't know that you were interested in men ever.
Speaker 2:That's literally his story.
Speaker 1:That's literally what the nigga's story. I feel like that's a lie.
Speaker 2:Nigga said he was never looking at bro like that he is lying.
Speaker 1:He said I didn't know bro looked at me like that. So both of them just never like he don't know what bro was on.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was just his man. You know what I'm saying? Just because that's your man. You don't know, so his mans was never gay. He didn't know.
Speaker 1:I need more details. Here we go. You want me to read some of the messages now? Yes, because if these were two men who presented as straight the entire time and, like, didn't know that each other had any type of like sexual feelings towards men, and then this one night they just both decided to be gay together, like that's crazy, that's how I remember the story when I read it that's insane. One of them, the the dick sucker, had to have been gay in some capacity before.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm gonna read part of the first tweet, I mean the first message that he sent her. Okay, so it was with G. But this is how it came about. I was never on the type of time and I was at his house, you know, on some normal homeboy type shit, never looked at him, no type way, never even crossed my mind to do nothing with him. But this is how it happened. I was sleeping on the side of the room. It was I don't know GTS on the other side, and one night I woke up and he was hovering over me and I ain't think too much of it. I thought he was, you know, looking for a lighter or something. I woke up to him hovering looking for a lighter or something.
Speaker 2:Fair I woke up to him hovering over me a couple nights before I knew he was doing some whole time. He was touching me in my sleep and it started there and I never knew he was like that the whole time he was around. The crazy thing is it turned me out. It's good, so find out he would do.
Speaker 1:I'm reading exactly how he wrote this we know how to read, I promise you guys.
Speaker 2:And the crazy thing is he turned me out to find out he'd been doing gay shit since high school. He showed me people that he wouldn't even think to be on that and that's why I came back out there and he was like I was jumping, telling you don't touch me while I was asleep or whatever.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got enough information. So that's basically what happened I got enough.
Speaker 2:He got diddled in his sleep.
Speaker 1:The dick sucker has been doing gay shit since high school. This isn't the first gay thing he's done. That's what I was trying to clear up, because you can't just wake up in the middle of the night one night and decide you want to suck dick. Tonight is the night.
Speaker 2:So I'm looking at their pictures from the baby. Like with the baby, you can tell that nigga was sweet. His fade make it look like he was gay. That's a gay nigga fade right there. You see how it don't square up it don't fade. It don't square up, it's just boom, boom.
Speaker 1:It's not a fade.
Speaker 2:It's just like the Rick Ross. Hey, the barber didn't blend you. Right there, my dude.
Speaker 1:That shit is not. It's very drastic.
Speaker 2:The barber didn't blend my nigga at all and it's round too, you know, when the hairline round and the sides is round. Homosexual behavior. No straight man is cutting your hair like that.
Speaker 1:You like that round brown starfish?
Speaker 2:and then look at his. Then he got to his. His thumbs up, like you could just tell, just the weight of his elbows being not you, not you, posing at your baby shower like like he just caught a snorlax like.
Speaker 1:So this is the dick sucky that.
Speaker 2:That's the nigga who. That's the baby daddy who got turned out.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. How much do you believe in men getting turned out? None, okay. So what I'm saying you agree with this is a man who has been suppressing his homosexual urges. That's he's that from what he's, from what he's saying. He's saying this is the first he's saying this is his first gay sexual experience. This is not his first gay sexual experience. He done had his dick sucked by another man before allegedly.
Speaker 2:That's a picture of them, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, y'all, we should put this up. These are two homosexuals. They are homosexuals. I'm sorry, and I don't want to like, I don't want to stereotype, but let's stereotype a little bit.
Speaker 2:they are fruity their lines is the same, ain't they? They hear the lineups.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You can tell gay niggas line up.
Speaker 1:And they look good together as a couple. They look better together than they do with these girls that they in the pictures with.
Speaker 2:What are girls got?
Speaker 1:They're a very cute couple.
Speaker 2:You can tell those girls ain't built right, so you can. They was beards.
Speaker 1:I'm waking it up up. You didn't have to say the girls didn't have to catch strays at all.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying they make a cute couple granted, you know I'm saying look like one was fresh off the off the push out. But like I'm saying they wasn't out nothing to bring home the mama oh, my god, I just swiped to another screenshot.
Speaker 1:He said I'm so sorry from the bottom of my heart on my grandma I am. She said did you nut? He said yeah, oh, that was. What type of question is that?
Speaker 2:that is okay. So that's the part I forgot to ask you about. I had responded to that, thinking like somebody who asked a person. This had to be fake. That's why I thought it was fake, because I'm like who asked a nigga, did you nut?
Speaker 1:this can't be fake because who asked nigga, did you not? That's can't be fake, because who asks a nigga did you nut? That's a crazy question to ask a nigga. He says yeah, she says face palm emoji, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:She says I've had her fucking question mark. He says fucking. So he was doing the bending. Oh my God, this is crazy. I can't believe you didn't see that. No, oh my God, this is crazy. I can't believe you didn't see that. No, oh my God. She was six months pregnant when he was doing this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was out there squirreling it up, oh my.
Speaker 1:God girl. Oh my Is this in Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I did feel like an Atlanta story.
Speaker 1:It does. They dress like Atlanta niggas too.
Speaker 2:So I guess we can just surmise from that, is that? Uh, yeah, buddy was always gay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why I was saying that this wouldn't happen if black men was just comfortable being gay. Just be gay, just suck the dicks. As soon as you want to suck the dicks, sir, please for the, for the love of god, listen to me me he look like Lil Sammy. If you want to sell it out there, you go ahead and sell it out there, all right.
Speaker 1:And you leave the women alone Alone completely. Unless you want both, go ahead, do both. But if you just want dick, you leave the women alone. For the love of God From all Atlanta women, please, lord.
Speaker 2:I just thought that was a crazy story. I got some. I think I had something else that was going on here too.
Speaker 1:Because ain't nothing wrong with sucking a little dick what I said, because ain't nothing wrong with sucking a little dick If that's what you want to do.
Speaker 2:Hold on, there was another.
Speaker 1:If you're a consenting adult.
Speaker 2:Hold on. There's a few little things I want to get to on here. Hold on.
Speaker 1:Just messy shit A little bit.
Speaker 2:So the NFL draft just happened recently, yeah, and this is usually the annual time, also in the summer, where the women are women of color. They, they, they espouse their, their frustration with the, the choices that these men making partners. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 1:It's a bunch of white women. So they get a bunch of white women sitting next to these niggas on the couches and they draft videos Pretty much nine out of 10 times.
Speaker 2:Usually you usually are like it's insane and this individual made a video where he talked about that, so I wanted you to hear this.
Speaker 4:So all of my friends that are g1 athletes that are either in college or are in the league, they're dating white women or they're married to white women. And you know what they told me. They said, bro, my girl looks up to taylor swift, your girl looks up to meg Thee Stallion. How many white women have you seen do the Meg Thee Stallion challenge? And he said, excluding the ones that think they're two shades away from being Lotto. I said probably only one. He said, okay, y'all five of my guys that play on Division I, power 5 football teams. And they start. They were like what do you mean? You know the type of NILs you got messing with this black girl. She heard about the deal I got and started to request money, apple peas and cash apps for her hair and nails. Oh shit.
Speaker 1:My other friends were saying oh my god, I don't even want to hear this anymore.
Speaker 4:This nigga hates black women she would get mad talking about why aren't we going to steak houses? You're good for it? I said, oh shit, they were like bros, don't like women. Their guys are going to get a cup of coffee. This is so fucking stupid.
Speaker 1:Ice cream, my friends were like bro, the white women are making twerking videos and they expect meals. Unplug this shit, turn this shit the fuck off.
Speaker 4:It's stupid as fuck, it's below us.
Speaker 1:It's way too much time left'm gonna talk over him this whole time. She wants to be special.
Speaker 4:One of my man said this. He just got drafted. He said, bro, I was dating a black girl. Now I'm dating a white girl. I'm about to marry her. He said the difference between the black girl and the white girl, the biggest difference is the white girl knows when to shut the up.
Speaker 1:I said god fuck up. I said God, turn this shit, the fuck off.
Speaker 2:Don't piss me off.
Speaker 1:That piss you off. So like it's literally there's, there's. No, this isn't even a conversation that we need to have, because this is just like fucking click rage bait bullshit. You're fucking. You're a black man sitting there talking about oh, all black women make twerking videos and you're literally boiling women black women down to this little ball like we're all a monolith and we all do the same fucking shit. Shut the fuck up. You sound stupid as shit Like this is not worth having a conversation about because this nigga is a mouth breather Like period. I don't want to continue talking about this shit because it's not worth having this conversation If he was having some type of nuanced opinion about race and interracial relationships.
Speaker 6:There's no nuanced opinion you could have.
Speaker 1:But he literally was just saying black women be twerking and they want a steak dinner and they don't know how to shut the fuck up. You shut the fuck up, nigga. What the fuck? Let's move on. Don't piss me off. Literally.
Speaker 2:There's some more beef that we have to discuss. It's not in the hip hop community, it's in the nature content creator community. So do you remember Brother Nature? Brother Nature, yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember Brother Nature when he faked that attack or whatever. No, he didn't get faked he got his ass whooped for real, oh no, but the reason he got attacked was different. He lied about the reason he got attacked or some shit like that, or was that a lie attacked or some shit like that or was that a lie? He tried to save face, yeah, but he got his ass whoop, it's all on video.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's no, we knew that.
Speaker 1:So there's another guy who's entered the fold crocodile cam oh yeah, I saw the video of him um grabbing a snake.
Speaker 2:He said welcome to all my new followers and to those who have been for been here a while. I'm honored that you chose to follow along. Oh, this is somebody else started saying oh, brother nature reincarnated into another fine, racially ambiguous animal, man. That made brother uh, that made a brother nature upset. But crocodile cam said not brother nature, though. I'm better than that. I'm crocodile cam and I'm black like that.
Speaker 1:He did that. Let me see, is he black?
Speaker 2:okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he's definitely black.
Speaker 2:That's just a light-skinned black man so, brother, nature comes into the fold after already being folded up years ago he says canceled just because you play with bugs and buy snakes from the pet store doesn't make you an animal conservationist. And also, you have a GoFundMe in your account for camera equipment.
Speaker 4:Get a job, my boy.
Speaker 2:Crocodile Cam didn't take too nicely to that. He said you must not have seen it. Actually go in the field with the wild animals too. I educate people about them and why we need to conserve them, and I'm doing better than you with poor camera equipment. You got lucky. Some deer showed up at your crib. I actually worked for this. I love the smoke in the animal kingdom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was saying seeing people saying that crocodile hunter whatever.
Speaker 2:His name is Crocodile Cam. Put some fucking respect on that Negro.
Speaker 1:Crocodile Cam. They were saying that Crocodile Cam is actually in the field.
Speaker 2:He putting out work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Nature Brother. Nature was just in his backyard, so there's no difference.
Speaker 2:Brother Nature was out there on some bullshit with fucking deers and ticks nigga.
Speaker 1:You wasn't really out here in these streets like Crocodile Cam nigga, you were buying groceries from the grocery store carrots and shit and feeding them to the same deer that was showing up in your backyard on a daily basis and then when you got a bigger following, you would go to like animal conservation, like the rescues and shit, like you weren't really what happened to those deers? You wasn't out.
Speaker 2:Wake it up. What happened to those fucking deers? You still fuck with them? I bet not. I bet you moved and I bet you didn't move with them. You're not really for the animal. You didn't even conserve the home you were staying in brother nature. Was it your home Like?
Speaker 5:I have so many questions once that nigga got folded up I didn't know what to believe, but yeah, what to believe I remember that day on twitter
Speaker 1:crocodile cam I'm a fan. Yeah, definitely we're. We're gonna, we're gonna follow you. You're like the the nature guy now and you're black. I like that. He's black.
Speaker 2:Unapologetically black, unlike brother nature, who looks a little bit like a spicy white. No, I don't know what he is. He is racially ambiguous. Yeah, he is racially ambiguous. We'll figure out what you are, old brother nature, but you know what you need to change it from brother nature to something maybe Hispanic, what's brother in Hispanic. Hombre nature. What's brother in Hispanic? Hombre nature.
Speaker 1:What's brother? In Spanish, Hombre is just man.
Speaker 2:I think I don't know what brother is.
Speaker 1:We're going to figure it out.
Speaker 2:I took French in high school and then we're going to change your name to that, because you're no longer brother nature. You're no brother of mine. My brother doesn't get folded up like that. My brother folds niggas up. Period One hitter quitter. I'm trying to see Hermano nature. Okay, we got some. We got somebody else to get into man. You do remember Emmanuel Acho. We talked about him before he did the conversations the difficult. What was it? Hard conversations with a black man. So he's dropping.
Speaker 1:Doesn't ring a bell.
Speaker 2:He's uncomfortable conversations with a black man. That's what it was called and you said you thought it was a good idea.
Speaker 2:Remember, we talked about that and then I told you how he's like a Nigerian dude and he's very like not for the real progression of the culture okay, like he's like one of those, those african guys who, like doesn't have any experience with slavery, doesn't identify with the oppression, but then does a whole bunch of talking for african-american people. And because of his appearance, like what a lot of like the african niggas don't know are, the people who from other countries that appear black, don't know is when y'all espouse certain beliefs and certain things, y'all get pushed at like y'all are the black community. That's why, especially a lot of people in like the fba and, uh, the descendants of slavery, those people who are in those kind of groups, they don't, they kind of like are anti the whole pan-africanism thing. Because we don't share a similar history with this country. Like you came to this country for a second opportunity, we were forced to this country in both, so like we don't have a same relationship.
Speaker 1:So when you go out there and speak, depending on where you come from, because you might have been forced your ancestors might have been forced to the country that you came to America from.
Speaker 2:Unless you're from Africa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying they're.
Speaker 2:Caribbeans. My whole thing was talking about the whole African thing. But no, he's doing this whole uncomfortable conversations with the Jew and man, it's top tier tap dancing. He's in rare form. Like I didn't expect this from him so fast. I'm going to give you a little excerpt of the interview that he did.
Speaker 1:I don't think you cannot tap dance for the Jewish community.
Speaker 2:This brother right here, ultimate tap dancer.
Speaker 7:Because a lot of people from outside the Jewish community did not notice that. So we started working on it way before, and then obviously October 7th happened and October 8th, and it became a lot more urgent.
Speaker 5:You said anti-Semitism is not a straightforward brand of hate. It's both looking up and looking down.
Speaker 7:Yeah, so what I mean by that is that anti-Semitism not as simple as racism. So when you're racist towards somebody else, you think that you're better than them and you think that they're lower than you.
Speaker 1:Anti-Semitism is a shape-shifting conspiracy theory.
Speaker 7:So every few generations it changes into something different and it can look like oh, the Jews are the vermin of the earth, they're lower, they're scum, they're like terrible race, which is what the Nazis were saying. But it can also sound like the Jews are controlling the banks, they're controlling the media, the the banks, they're controlling the media. The Jews have this conspiratorial power. That's mythological power, really. That's also have been historically caused a lot of bloodshed.
Speaker 5:Well, you said don't call it power. You said, call it positions of power. And, Emmanuel, you objected to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the beauty of the book Nate, the beauty of the book Gail. There's tension, there's real tension there. I said wait a second, you can read it in the writing.
Speaker 3:No doubt about it. When I was drafted to the Cleveland Browns, I said Noah, the owner was a Jewish man. When I was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles, the owner was a Jewish man. When I left the NFL, my agent was a Jewish woman. I left that agent. My other agent was a Jewish man. Jewish people have held the title of owner, agent, general manager in my life Positions, but Noah brilliantly educated me and to say that usually and historically, when you say that Jewish people are in power, that means we need to do whatever it takes to get them out of power, ie the Holocaust and so the tension in this book.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's an extreme.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not. That's not what people are saying at all.
Speaker 2:I think that's an extreme, like that's the problem and we don't have to stay too much longer than this because I know our sponsors don't let us, don't really want us talking about this kind of conversation. But I just don't feel like it has to go to that extreme where we're questioning people in power and the fact that they're doing some type of nepotism or keeping it very close to the culture that they're from and exposing that like questioning people in power is always necessary, and I think it's healthy yeah, she.
Speaker 2:And she goes on to say like, oh, it's okay to say, why are jewish people so overrepresented in these things? But when you're trying to say that they're taking control, you're creating this, this, it's like, bro, you're just trying to blur the line so that you can just make it anti-semitism when it fits your narrative narrative.
Speaker 1:I don't think I have ever seen the conversation of like jewish ownership turn into. We need to get them to own less things by way of murdering them like what?
Speaker 2:I mean that's definitely some 1940s type shit like that. What the fuck that was a conversation back in the 1940s. Now jewish people are so indistinguishable from white people, nobody's really having that conversation, unless you're painfully Jewish, like I mean, like you go outside with your six point star, your hair curly and your yarmulke like, unless you're in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, unless you, unless you're giving it up like that, unless you're in Brooklyn, the Jewish people be Jewishing it up. This is what I forgot to say.
Speaker 2:This is what I forgot to say about Drake and Kendrick. This is the. What is it again? The Azanaki Jew versus the Hebrew Israelite.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, definitely. Did you see that clip where Drake was. Like you know, I just grew up in mostly Jewish areas and I went to synagogues he was talking to Rosenberg, yeah, and he was like and we don't see race, and we don't see color and I was like oh my God, that's a white man, that's hate, that's hate, Come on.
Speaker 2:All right, that's hate, that is that is the rhetoric babe, that's hate.
Speaker 1:I don't see color, I don't see race.
Speaker 2:Okay, sorry, his dad abandoned him in Canada. He didn't get to live the black experience for real. That's still. That's not that.
Speaker 8:That you sound like logic. I mean they got a similar experience.
Speaker 1:They do they, dad? We need to put drake and logic in the same basket more often they dads dipped out for music careers.
Speaker 2:That's what it is, man. Sometimes you're just trying to be great that we're not that successful you know drake drake. Daddy was all right.
Speaker 1:Drake's dad is a whole different topic.
Speaker 2:Drake's dad, though don't do that. Drake's dad did some numbers. Drake's dad is crazy. He had some shit spinning on him All of the stories that I've heard about Drake's dad.
Speaker 1:None of them have been good.
Speaker 2:I mean he's not going to win father of the fucking year. No, yeah, nigga. You created Drake. Okay, it doesn't mean he did the best job.
Speaker 1:Like you, did not do a great job at all.
Speaker 2:For one thing, he's not Canadian, so he couldn't just live in the country. They don't have the same kind of marriage laws that we got up here. Like it was difficult. It is a challenge when things like that happen, and now you have distance in between.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to sit here and just shit on him because he didn't have enough money to fucking yeah, well cool, I'm not going to shit on him because he didn't have enough money to go back and forth. He was out here nutting at white women with no chance of taking care of the child if it possibly became so. You don't know that.
Speaker 2:You don't know, there was no chance. He didn't live in the country.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you was not a white woman, no one that you didn't live in it. Drake went to memphis, he said it, he visited, oh my god. Speaking of memphis, I think, or saint louis, I saw a thing no no, no, no, no, no because memphis I thought memphis was saint louis, but it was actually saint louis. He was saying that drake stole smo's whole style. You know he started doing like the colorful shit in the braids. Fuck Smino. First of all.
Speaker 6:Smino is my favorite artist, and that's the only reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's the only reason he's doing that. And then he started hanging around sexy red Drake done. Stole another culture's identity, and it's St Louis now.
Speaker 2:You can't be have black in you and steal any black culture. That narrative is stupid.
Speaker 1:That nigga is.
Speaker 2:Canadian, he's still black.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:The best niggas went to Canada.
Speaker 1:St Louis is American culture.
Speaker 2:Okay, and guess what? That's very specific.
Speaker 1:African American culture.
Speaker 2:Okay cool, the most efficient niggas made it to Canada from the Underground Railroad. That's where it was taking you. So, hey, the smart niggas made it to Canada.
Speaker 1:And then they were no longer American when they went there.
Speaker 2:Cool, they made it. Okay, they got the big freedom.
Speaker 1:They did not experience the rest of the African-American struggle.
Speaker 2:Because that's just like Haitians. Y'all was able to do great job independence. These Canadian blacks are the smart niggas who was able to bypass the crackers and get to the Underground Railroad.
Speaker 1:Did not experience the same struggle.
Speaker 2:Wait till they got out of slavery. They still was in slavery Past and Canada was racist still they did not experience this very specific African-American struggle. Canada had racial issues.
Speaker 1:the same they did not experience the African-American struggle. I'm not saying Canada is perfect. Nowhere is perfect. After Haiti gained its independence.
Speaker 2:it still has its issues to this fucking day, Obviously not Again, but they're not racial issues per se, from interpersonal, they're more like cultural and things like that. In Canada they still had racial issues. You didn't go to Canada and shit was sweet. It just was easier. You just wasn't a slave, you were still a nigga. What are we talking about here? Alright, we gotta talk about Scott Jackson's fall off. Shardy's been doing a lot of Teemu commercials, a lot of bullshit ads. You seen it?
Speaker 2:no, I haven't seen a single Scott Jackson anything so I think honestly it's like has she really fallen off? No, I haven't seen a single Skai Jackson anything, so I think the spotlight's been on.
Speaker 1:It's like, has she really fallen off when she had like one role on Disney Channel in the first place?
Speaker 2:Like she wasn't really on. Her trajectory was to be one of the next ones, Just like Shadi from Black-ish. You know that was the voice of the girl in Good Times.
Speaker 1:Okay, marshala, but I'm just saying like she wasn't too on in the first place. That's not true. She was a disney girl yeah, but she was only on one thing one show.
Speaker 2:Most of them are on multiple shows and she had a big role on that show yeah, she was the main character on that show so hold on. Here's one of her ads. She's doing a band-aid brand commercial.
Speaker 1:Okay, we don't have to play it. So somebody said this is what happens when you leave your career and be messy on Twitter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, apparently, according to and the thing is this that this is what happened. She wasn't even doing a band-aid brand. She was doing a TikTok for an old band-aid commercial. She was doing a tiktok for an old band-aid commercial she did when she was little. Oh yeah, that's. She's literally 20 some years old, trying to live back in her heyday yeah this she wasn't really that girl to begin with.
Speaker 1:So I'm just not like I'm not feeling the whole like she fell off off because she was never that girl.
Speaker 2:I mean, she had the trajectory and I just think it's crazy. Did you see the picture of her and her boyfriend?
Speaker 1:I think it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2:That nigga is a fucking giant compared to her. She like the red niggas, though.
Speaker 1:I don't know what.
Speaker 2:She's not with a white boy.
Speaker 1:I don't know what she needs to do from here on out.
Speaker 2:She got to get with a white boy right now she do. She has to clean it up, did you see?
Speaker 1:the um, she did like a reading on or something where she like acted on and she posted it on tiktok and then everyone was dragging her because they were like you you're very much giving my. I I'm a disney girl. Like she still had that like cadence and everything Like she's just. I think she's just not that great of an actress. I think that's.
Speaker 2:I think that's past, like being a child, because my thing is that somebody with her kind of frame, I don't see why she wouldn't get picked up more. Yeah, that little body, you know like you could get a lot of work still being young.
Speaker 2:She still looks like she's like 13, 14, she can still get a high school roll off, yeah, 100. So that's what I'm saying. Like it, to me it's either you not comfortable doing something on camera either you're not comfortable doing certain things on camera because you've grown, now you know what that means. We just seen zendaya get right in challenger. You either not ready to do something on camera or you're just a bitch.
Speaker 1:Nobody want to work with you yeah or it might have to do with her mom or something, because her mom is her manager. She's always with her and her.
Speaker 2:She was hating on on stormy reed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're always they're always messy, like the. The only thing that we've seen from them for a while now is them being messy on social media, yeah, so I think her mom ruined her career. It might have been her mom, but I did see on the blind items allegedly she's been. She was like yachting or whatever. You know what yachting is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they pay her to be on boats with older men.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, so that's what she allegedly has been doing for money lately. It's going to be hard for her yachting with that big boy, so that's what she allegedly has been doing for money lately.
Speaker 2:So sick is sick out here. It's going to be hard for her yachting with that big boy, unless he's going to be a bodyguard. Just watching she turned my boy into a cook. That's crazy. All right, we could get. You want to get into anything else, or is how far are we right now? Like an hour 40 in.
Speaker 2:Ok, I had some other stuff by Eddie Griffin talking about Illuminati, but that's all just going to end up being butthole talk. But that's what it was. That's what they're going to do. You know, this is all he's going to talk about. Is niggas being gay and wearing dresses? Yeah, eddie Griffin, like it ain't nothing. Yeah, eddie Griffin is not going to give us any nuanced opinions about anything. He's literally just dark-skinned cat williams. Yeah, um, was there anything else? Uh, we did. You want to recap a little bit on manda, seals and how?
Speaker 1:she's been kicking shannon back in. Oh yeah, she um, she's been calling this nigga all types of stupid I think that's fucked up.
Speaker 2:I think she, she, she, that is fucked up. It goes back to our original video, where she just does not have the self awareness, where it's like yo shannon was not trying to shit on you no, he's that's.
Speaker 1:That's what he does generally. In a lot of interviews I've been seeing people saying yeah, he's just not that.
Speaker 1:That's not the guy that you're gonna have that in-depth conversation with, unfortunately. And then, being that he, you ended the interview saying that you were appreciative of him giving you this platform for you to explain yourself on, because a lot of people just didn't want to fuck with you at all. And then y'all hugging and everything and I just feel like, like you, you gotta know how to play the game, amanda, like you do. And then, um, you not autistic for real? That's my thing.
Speaker 1:Like you said that, he called that. But you sat there and you and I feel like you said this the way you said it, on purpose to make it seem like you were diagnosed, when you're not diagnosed Apparently. You just self tested and took a couple internet tests or whatever, and then went on this platform saying that you're autistic and then all of these behaviors are because of the fact that you're autistic when you're not actually diagnosed. I feel like that is irresponsible in this day and age when, like people just be on social media fucking deciding that they're autistic, deciding that they have adhd, like it's very easy to fall into and you said about black women not getting the treatment that they need and you just going on here basically giving people the excuse to look at these bitches be lying yeah, like it's irresponsible as fuck.
Speaker 1:And like I like you, like I do, I like how smart you are and everything, but like it makes it hard to continue being a fan of yours. And I wouldn't even say I was a fan of Amanda Seales, I just enjoyed her in general. But, um, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't like that, I don't like the fact that, uh, you felt like yeah, it felt like y'all you were trying to trick us into having sympathy for you and it was like a get out of jail free card instead of taking accountability for your actions. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hey, y'all ain't never going to pull the wig over my eyes. I can smell Kat. I didn't even have to watch the whole interview to know Kat was coming, so I knew that Kat was there. I said what I said. I'm going to take the oh you're being misogynist quotes from you because I know.
Speaker 1:I see the bullshit If you watch the interview, the whole conversation. Bullshit if you watch the interview, the the whole conversation, because they talked about it for a while, like she talked about having a psychiatrist, she talked about being diagnosed what?
Speaker 2:did I say when we talked about this off camera? What did I say? I say if amanda seals was given any kind of certified diagnosis, she would be screaming that from the top of the roof. It would be all over her social media. It'd probably be her fucking avi for three weeks. Her certification saying I'm autistic. My spectrum sheet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she would have probably changed her handle to autistic Amanda, amanda.
Speaker 2:Spectrum. Yeah, that's exactly what we would have seen. She would have took that whole PR thing into a whole other world. Oh Lord.
Speaker 1:Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2:All right, let's get out of here We'll finish up with. A life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments. What's up?
Speaker 1:Hold on. It seems like Kim and Khloe Kardashian are arguing on the Twitter.
Speaker 2:We might have to get back to that at a later time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got to do our science on that Kim said baby, be careful what you wish for. My bag is much bigger than it was 16 years ago. And then Khloe said damn, I love it when you talk to me like this Made me get a little excited.
Speaker 2:Oh, wake it up. I love when my girls start arguing. I love the beef.
Speaker 1:We'll bring that to you. I don't think it's beef, oh.
Speaker 2:We'll bring that to you. I don't think it's beef.
Speaker 1:Oh, you think it's just, she's just stunting on her sister for no reason. Sometimes you got to flex. She's just stunting. I was like hold on, why they arguing? I like trying to see if there's anything we missed. Sometimes you got to flex though. But we good to wrap it up now. Yeah, go ahead, baby All right.
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