Ever wondered what happens when you mix songwriting genius with absurd family cookout tales? This episode has it all! Join us as we kick things off by unpacking the legendary impact of "Single Ladies" and then switch gears to a hysterical cookout story where everyone inexplicably shares a single hot dog. You'll laugh out loud as we discuss a scene with QueenzFlip getting into a comical police encounter. Plus, we’re celebrating our monumental achievement of becoming a YouTube partner, giving a big shoutout to our dedicated team.
From there, we jump into a peculiar tradition that involves friends sharing a hot dog like a blunt—yes, you read that right! We explore the comedic side of this odd ritual and then dive into serious topics like the influential rise of female artists in hip-hop. Our conversation takes another turn as we dissect complex racial and gender dynamics within the WNBA, and celebrate the incredible Monica McNutt for standing her ground in sports journalism. This episode is a whirlwind of lighthearted anecdotes mixed with deep societal insights.
Finally, we navigate the intricate web of relationships and public personas of icons like Cam'ron, 50 Cent, and Cardi B. We discuss everything from the music industry's shifting landscape to the controversial proposals by figures like Candace Owens. You’ll even hear us touch on sibling dynamics, financial responsibilities in relationships, and the societal implications of personal decisions. Trust us, you don’t want to miss this episode packed with thought-provoking discussions, laughs, and a few eyebrow-raising moments!
Ever wondered what happens when you mix songwriting genius with absurd family cookout tales? This episode has it all! Join us as we kick things off by unpacking the legendary impact of "Single Ladies" and then switch gears to a hysterical cookout story where everyone inexplicably shares a single hot dog. You'll laugh out loud as we discuss a scene with QueenzFlip getting into a comical police encounter. Plus, we’re celebrating our monumental achievement of becoming a YouTube partner, giving a big shoutout to our dedicated team.
From there, we jump into a peculiar tradition that involves friends sharing a hot dog like a blunt—yes, you read that right! We explore the comedic side of this odd ritual and then dive into serious topics like the influential rise of female artists in hip-hop. Our conversation takes another turn as we dissect complex racial and gender dynamics within the WNBA, and celebrate the incredible Monica McNutt for standing her ground in sports journalism. This episode is a whirlwind of lighthearted anecdotes mixed with deep societal insights.
Finally, we navigate the intricate web of relationships and public personas of icons like Cam'ron, 50 Cent, and Cardi B. We discuss everything from the music industry's shifting landscape to the controversial proposals by figures like Candace Owens. You’ll even hear us touch on sibling dynamics, financial responsibilities in relationships, and the societal implications of personal decisions. Trust us, you don’t want to miss this episode packed with thought-provoking discussions, laughs, and a few eyebrow-raising moments!
He wrote Single Ladies, yeah, but Single Ladies was when I was in high school. That was mad long ago.
Speaker 3:So you trying to tell me, you who write Single Ladies, you don't think a pen going crazy, no matter what he doing.
Speaker 2:First of all, why are you shaking your face? Because you just spanked the drink I wish you did. Cheat on Offset. I will say this I hope you do cheat on, please cheat on Offset. God damn it.
Speaker 3:I'm going to run with the narrative that, Danny, you called the police on Queens.
Speaker 2:Flip.
Speaker 3:It's way better that way that you called the police. You went in there, you grabbed your phone, called off your Google number. You said Officer, I know where Trevor Robinson is right now aka, in the streets, Queens Flip. He's got right now. Aka, in the streets, Queens flip. He's got six pounds of clubbing bang bang in his car. You can get right now, oh my. God Go get him.
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Speaker 5:That's it your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives what the f**k do, fuck do you think your podcast is doing on that podcast now All right, we're here, we back.
Speaker 3:We back at it Took a little break.
Speaker 2:Just a tiny one though.
Speaker 3:I hope the people weren't mad. I know y'all was asking for our content, but we didn't feel like it was lively enough and you know we did get a little reward for us. You know, hold on. Let's give us a little hand clap just early on in the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we deserve.
Speaker 3:We have reached our first milestone. We are now in the partner group with you two. Yay, one more hand clap Yay. All right man. So I mean this is exciting for us. Yeah, it's a step in the right direction means we're doing the right thing. So proud of you. Thank you for your all, your consistency and making everything that I wish this would be into what it's becoming thank you, baby.
Speaker 2:You're the one that's like doing all of the the hard work, but hey, you add the finesse that's needed to this. So just a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker 3:I thank you for that so give you some gunshots, all right, so you have something to tell me like okay.
Speaker 2:So my best friend called me and told me a story that was so. It was so ridiculous that I was like, immediately, I was like I'm telling this on the show. So my best friend Joseph calls me, right, and he's like, oh, we had a little cookout, the family or whatever. We was just like grilling stuff for Memorial Day, I guess. And he's like my brother and his wife and like, I guess, one or two of his friends I don't know if it was one friend or two, but they was passing around a hot dog, taking bites of it one at a time.
Speaker 2:Raw Same hot dog Same hot dog, no bun.
Speaker 3:No, it's cooked though.
Speaker 2:It's cooked.
Speaker 3:Okay, you said raw at first. I'm thinking oh my God, this is getting nasty.
Speaker 2:Just hot dog. There was other hot dogs on the grill. There were buns.
Speaker 3:But they just passing around like a little blunt Passing the glizzy around is crazy.
Speaker 2:Like a blunt too. Like a blunt.
Speaker 3:Like y'all all, just take a hit of this Chew, bite, bite chew. You know we just moving it around. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:And then I guess his brother's wife goes like oh yeah, or his brother's friend goes, oh yeah. We used to do this a lot in college. Hey yo, we used to just share a cup of rice pudding or something like that, and I was like I hope they all had different spoons.
Speaker 3:Nah, they was sharing a spoon. That's crazy. I couldn't what the world that type of friendship.
Speaker 2:I don't want it.
Speaker 3:No at all.
Speaker 2:Like we can cut the hot dog up If we that broke.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm telling you, we can just split it up. You know, you do it Like right down the middle. We can do the hot dog like that. We don't gotta.
Speaker 2:These are all grown people With jobs. That can they just. They just wanted to do that.
Speaker 3:You said there was multiple dogs Almost ready. You said there was multiple dogs almost ready.
Speaker 2:They were on the grill ready.
Speaker 3:That's sick behavior.
Speaker 2:And buns and condiments available readily.
Speaker 3:That's sick behavior, y'all. They chose to do this, joseph, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 2:It wasn't Joseph, it was his brother. Oh well, they asked Joseph if he wanted a bite of the glitzy. He was like I'm okay, good job, hey, like I'm okay.
Speaker 3:Good job, hey. Proud of you, Joseph. You stood on business.
Speaker 2:You about to call him? Gloseph, I was about to yeah, that's crazy. Not Gloseph that would have been nuts.
Speaker 3:That's my boy, though he wouldn't go out like that. No no, that's why I was mistaken. I was just like there's no way you could have had my boy going out sick like that my best friend is a real nigga.
Speaker 2:He would never do no shit like that. That's crazy. That's crazy Passing around the glizzard Sick behavior. There was only one woman in that group.
Speaker 3:The dark times out here in these streets. Man, Look what inflation done did. There were other hot dogs on the grill, but no, but then they made a scene like that shit was just a tradition. Like nah, that was just a movie Every time we get together we just pass around a piece of meat. That's a disgusting behavior.
Speaker 2:I'm tagging his brother in this. He follows us on TikTok.
Speaker 3:I love you Alright let's get to some music.
Speaker 7:These bitches be boring. Corny, Pop out new bag, new jury, Throwing that soul on my story. Let's go. I pop shit till the niggas gotta block me and my toes white like Matthew McConaughey. You in starts to the flow. She flowin' Ass through ass and straw keep throwin', Start ridin' up, so the pandas keep showin'. Should I take off on these hoes? H-e-a-b-y heavy. I'm not toxic, I'm deadly. Hoes, look a mess and be messy. I pop shit and pop ass on Jeske Hickory, dickory dock. Take my pic to the doc. Like give me the shit that she got Coming out lumpy Holes, be chippity-chop. I hop out the lemon and jump in the cully Texting your man while I lay on my tummy Asking titties. Come on when it's sunny. Guess I'm a teacher. Since she want to sub me, she said well, I had no idea.
Speaker 6:Thought she was on the shelf Ikea. I'm stoked like that when I see her. We'll see you next time. Uh-huh. Since you're so gangsta like your fucking friends, Put it on your hubby. Since you love lying on your vows, I write all my verses. I can do this shit for hours. I'll be damned.
Speaker 6:I let a nigga fuck a bitch inside my house. Your money long you split that. Your nigga, saying that's ours, put her ass on the ground till she had to give me my flowers. I was up in the Bronx and they said I'm good in the towers. Put that shit on God that you ain't change your face to mine. I'll get on your ass so I don't have to waste no time. Say you love yourself, but you won't put that on your kids. All that surgery and how your body looks so mad. Got your asses for the culture. You just trying to ride the wave. You should be home with your kids cause, bitch, you speak like second grade. Now these bitches getting brave Heard. This ho do? Brujeria Wrote this shit after I prayed. Someone go and call a party, cause we gonna bake her ass a cake. We'll be right back. See me do my thing. Got a million and one haters and they call me Kiss my Ape, she's good.
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Speaker 3:They going crazy right now. You are now listening to Talk FNF TV.
Speaker 2:I am with my lovely, amazing and wonderful co-host, miss Reality hey guys, I have to put my drink down to do my spirit fingers.
Speaker 3:And I'm your host Rhetoric. So we are here to bring y'all the information that y'all need to know. So, first thing, first that we have to do, we got to roll over one of our ops today, man. We got to roll over their little situation.
Speaker 2:Who.
Speaker 3:So you know our infamous sworn enemy.
Speaker 2:Come to the front, mr Queensflip. Roll to the front.
Speaker 3:If you can, sir. So Queensflip put on his page, on his Twitter page, that he had got arrested. Looked like he was by some port or bridge or whatever. Not sure if this is a skit or not, who cares, we're going to act like it's real right now.
Speaker 2:It might be a skit.
Speaker 3:Probably is, or so he did something stupid and got arrested. Nothing like he had Nothing crazy, but some of the lingering theories right now. Somebody said, like some parking information, maybe he had like racked up a lot of tickets around the city or whatever. Or, you know, he had like suspended license. I think he may have said something like that about on the pod, so he may have been driving around with a suspended license. I like the narrative that's going around. That I know is 100% false. So Danny is my man, so I know this is not true at all, but I'm going to run with the narrative that, danny, you called the police because it's more fun it's way better that way that you called the police.
Speaker 3:You went in there, you grabbed your phone, called off your google number. You said officer, I know where trevor robinson is right now, aka in the streets, queens flip. He's got six pounds of clubbing bang bang in his car. You can get right now my god go get him. That's what danny was doing by the stop sign going crazy trevor robinson that's such a like white boy name.
Speaker 2:I would never think that his name was trevor robinson and I know, I know what they say.
Speaker 3:you're not supposed to being seeing a fellow black man go to jail and all that other stuff, but fuck that shit. Yeah, he disrespected you and me yeah, so we're definitely kicking your back any time. We see that Definitely so in the video. It's so funny. They couldn't really even arrest him normally, like they had to use two handcuffs, so they had to, like put the clip in the middle just so they can get it around, because his arms are so short.
Speaker 2:It's like trying to put a T-Rex in a full Nelson and his back is so goddamn big.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like he couldn't really get his arms all the way around.
Speaker 2:Yo, big, wide-ass back and not even a good way like a football play Like you, just wide.
Speaker 3:He looked like a walrus the way they had him pinned up.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, I have a big head and little arms. You remember that from etheromysus?
Speaker 3:that's him, that's exactly what he looked like like. The shit was just hilarious because, like when I seen the two, the two clips, I'm like why they can't do that, and then I realized his arms are probably like a fourth of his entire body length and so he couldn't even get that shit all the way around.
Speaker 2:That shit was hilarious you physiologically don't make sense at all like the anatomy.
Speaker 3:Like that they built those handcuffs for was nowhere near your anatomy at all. So you're not an average human build yeah, your numbers are odd like I can. I can tell where it's. Like when you have to buy clothes. Like they always fit weird, like either your shirts are too long or then they're too tight, because it's like.
Speaker 2:He got to buy a 3X, but then he got to like alter the arm shorter.
Speaker 3:He's shaped like a squash, you know, so it's kind of like got that bulbous kind of look to him.
Speaker 2:He is quite bulbous. That's a good word for it.
Speaker 3:It's very bulbous. So, hey, danny, I know you didn't do it, but good job if you did. You got him there, You're planning everything you needed on him and they took him down. They're going to sit him down for a little bit. He ain't worried about bail. That's what he told Doug. He ain't worried about no bail, so he'll get out and we can just laugh at him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if it's like traffic stuff, then you'll be fine yeah.
Speaker 3:Or what if he's so bad into it? This is what I like the theory. What if he's so bad into it with the traffic shit? He has to get a bad contract from Joe to help clear him out again. So now we have him on the Joe Budden podcast, pissed off for another year and a half. What's going on with him on the show now? It just seems like the contract's running out and he's ready to move on with his content. So it just seems like he's always giving his best effort anyway while he's on the mic. But I would just love to see Joe be like hey, my man, if I'm going to help you with this, I need a quarter of Flip the Network. It's got to be mine. Come on, man, you're my guy. You can't be doing this to me. Man, that's my baby. You can't do that to my baby. He's like hey, man, you want me to get you out of this again? Man, I already got you out of it with IRS, with Uncle Sam. What do you think I'm gonna have to do now?
Speaker 2:He had IRS trouble too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why when he first essentially why Joe was able to get him promos, the cheap deal that he got him at, Because he helped front him on some money with the IRS Play- stupid games. Can't play with them, boys. Gotta make sure your debt's clear, my guy. So let's get into some real interesting news, Something that's actually worthy of talking about. Not the old flipper WNBA man. It's going crazy right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the first time I've seen the WNBA Just regularly In the news cycle.
Speaker 3:So the past weekend like everything just seemed to erupt, Like they've been playing Kaitlyn Clark like a doll, so she's been on pretty much every night and so it all kind of culminates in this big Hard foul that she gets while she's playing against Andrew Reese in the Chicago Sky I think that's their name. Pretty hard foul from her name is Kennedy I think that was her name.
Speaker 2:I think you should know her name.
Speaker 3:You think I should know her name? Is that misogyny, if I don't? Was it a black woman. Yeah, so it's misogynoir.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God woman, yeah so it's misogynoir oh my god, it's misogynoir. Wow, now you're mocking it yeah, chenity carter, not kennedy glad we cleared that up so, uh, yeah.
Speaker 3:So she was fouled pretty hard by chenity carter. Um, it was pretty much a non-basketball play. But to be fair, it kind of starts at the beginning of the last play where they were trying to fight for a rebound. Caitlin kind of gives her a nice little shove, going for a board, but you know she didn't like that. She goes down. You know they get a bucket. Her teammates taking it out gives her the ball right by. She's about to give the ball and the girl just chucks her onto the ground. Now you can say it was a little bit of a flop. I, I was a flopper in high school so I can see where. You know she put a little sauce on it when she fell. But I'm going to be honest man.
Speaker 3:A lot of y'all was acting like y'all just seen a white woman just get killed on a basketball court.
Speaker 2:It was like race wars.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's where you could just see that imagery was just way too much for people to take at this moment. They just she had already been getting kind of some hard fouls here and there, but that was the time where it was like this wasn't basketball play related at all, like this just was like a chin check on her ass, like she put her straight on her ass, like it was real quick, and then the girl gets like reevaluated for a flake. At first it was a common foul which was like okay, hold on, what are we? Doing here.
Speaker 3:That was retaliation Like what does that even mean? That cannot be a common foul. She wasn't even going for the ball the thing that I thought was pretty interesting just in that moment and I kind of want to get to this first part of our topic with this when she got fouled, her teammate was right there and at no point did it look like she was like about to, you know, defend her in any capacity and I about to you know, defend her at any in any capacity. And I I wanted to ask this question start off as like do you think black women when, even in competitive spirits like this and a competitive event, they still see like solidarity amongst each other more than they would, you know, maybe a white girl, even though they're on the same team?
Speaker 2:I think, um black women assume that white women don't feel solidarity with us. So we're just not gonna. We're not gonna play this game because you've seen the video from jump.
Speaker 3:Yeah she didn't even react, like she was gonna help her up, like even like, go over to the girl and say watch it, watch yourself, don't be putting your hands on her like like there was nothing of the sort I was like they don't like her.
Speaker 2:That's what it seems like they don't like her like they don't.
Speaker 3:They didn't even give a care. It will fuck like what happened with her? Uh-uh, not at all ready for that to just be like oh no, it's cool, get up yeah take it and I thought that was pretty insane and then it was funny, right.
Speaker 3:So people started going with this narrative about uh, is that you know wdma? And why it's physical? It's a physical league and whatnot, and we can explain that in just a moment. But the clips that they kept showing, right, it didn't do themselves really any favors, the little montage that was going around, because every time it was two black girls going at it, a group of players all got around each other and got into the mix, the two, the two clips that had white girls in it. The only time someone helped her was another white girl, white sisterhood. I'm thinking to myself like yo, this is exactly what I'm saying in regards to. It's like the solidarity changes when it's a particular race of a teammate that doesn't happen in the, the nba no it was more black guys.
Speaker 2:But if, like, you got to remember, like yeah, it's like a sprinkle of white guys you got to remember, black guys had to fight in the civil war alongside other white guys.
Speaker 3:In the south man we used to dying for white niggas. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So black women.
Speaker 3:We was just struggling by goddamn selves so you can just see where, like we are used to, that's messed up. We are used to seeing the imagery of white black guys coming to the rescue, especially of white women, like one of the things I was saying. The reason why you saw a lot of black guys saying the things that they were saying is because this is what they wife looked like. Caitlyn clark, like that's who, someone who they care about looks like, and they seen someone who looks like their wife get attacked by a black woman. And that's exactly what most of these commentators who were like oh you got to protect the money.
Speaker 3:She's the bag, like that's what they were all.
Speaker 2:Basically, it's all it's a competitive sport and stuff like that happens all the time.
Speaker 3:You got draymond choking niggas out on the basketball court on a regular basis, like sometimes wild stuff is gonna happen, like especially when you had that kind of competitive nature in the building, like people really want to win and then like people don't understand. Women athletics and men athletics are totally two different things.
Speaker 2:Like I saw a whole compilation of Caitlin Clark, just like bumping and knocking bitches out on the court.
Speaker 3:But I just want to kind of get into this specific specifics of that. Whereas, like you, as a woman, your athleticism looks differently from a man. So you're not going to necessarily, you're not going to see a lot of girls gliding through, doing layups and doing all that stuff. It's really not what it looks like. It's a very ground and pound kind of game.
Speaker 3:So, it kind of leads itself to physicality because, like the NBA changed a lot of rules. But they changed a lot of rules because the athleticism you can reward it when I, you know, give you an open lane, now you can dunk on somebody. You can, you know, do an open pass to somebody for open three, like you can make the game look good. If you were to do that in the women's game it would not make the game look better. Like you don't want to see them just doing layups and you know, threes. Like you want to see the game where they do, where it's mid range, they bumping into each other, they playing.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm not getting into technicalities of it, but the female game and the female athleticism, at least how it is right now, gears for that kind of game. But I didn't like y'all pushing out all of these videos and fighting because you just giving way for the whole narrative of look at all these black women and how aggressive and they can't even play a game right, like it. Just, I just feel like they didn't handle this critique um of the league with a lot of tack, like they made it look bad, like that's why they stopped that shit in the nba you could, um, take a compilation of women's soccer and it's the same thing, like it's when women are playing sport.
Speaker 2:It's aggressive, like they be knocking each other out. It's even more aggressive in soccer and that's disproportionately not black, so that's definitely not a thing. It's not just black women that are on the basketball court being violent like these are competitive people in general, not just women.
Speaker 3:Competitive people, yeah and then when you show this whole little wheel of real of them trying to blow the league is just physical and there's like none of these plays had anything to do with basketball, like at all. Like all of these fights started like after the play. Like all of this crazy, like it wasn't even like physical play. This wasn't even physical play. It was physical play outside of basketball. That's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't a good narrative. All of them wasn't hard fouls, like it was just like and we've seen this before with other girls, like Kaitlyn Clark isn't the first one to go through this and it just kind of just seemed like it gets more highlighted with certain kind of women. So like you know who Candace Parker is, she was the number one pick. I think it was probably like 2000,. I want to say nine. That was the one that Wayne was talking about. I don't know if she was talking about Candace Parker. Probably he may have had a song where he rapped about her Okay.
Speaker 3:But she could dunk. She went to Tennessee, she could dunk she was really good.
Speaker 2:I'm going to Google her.
Speaker 3:And she got into it like her rookie year with somebody where the girl was like kind her and stuff. It got really aggressive. And it's like you understand that, because even around that time I remember Candace Parker was probably the best-looking WNBA player at that moment, so I can understand where she was getting a lot of hate. That's crazy because she looked like a big old lesbian, I mean now, but that's when she was straight. She was straight when she was a rookie.
Speaker 2:Like nah, all the pictures I see of her that look like a big old lesbian to me.
Speaker 3:But nah, I mean that's because she done, got older and worked out and got stronger. She was like 22, 23 when she was playing. She was all right, cute little girl. Hey, she was cute to me, she older than me, she was cute when she was 19. I seen her at the well 18, at the McDonald's All-American game and that was to me, me like that was kind of like her, her step above a lot of her competition.
Speaker 3:And what I think a lot of people don't understand when it comes to the race part of this Kaitlyn Clark conversation is nobody's saying she's successful because she's white. I think people are really just saying she's. Her whiteness validates her skill. So when you see someone doing that yeah, it could have been a black girl doing step back threes and doing all that stuff. She's probably not going to get the same attention that Caitlin Clark gets, because it's just going to be a higher percentage of white people that are just going to be on her side just because she's white and that's nothing. It's nothing wrong with little race and you know propaganda in the league, like there's nothing wrong with just a little bit of it.
Speaker 2:Like, let's play with it. I've said it on the show before that that's what the league is built off of. That's what the NBA is yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean like this is a way to get numbers and get people to talk about it and it's working and you're going to get the ugly and the bad, and that's what just kind of is a part that I see a lot of people just not really adjusting to. But like y'all got to check, y'all, white boy.
Speaker 2:Did you see what Pat McAfee did? I have no idea who that man is, so we're not going to play that one because that's an ESPN clip.
Speaker 3:But we'll play another ESPN clip, but we ain't going to play that Pat McAfee one. But he basically calls her. He's like oh, everyone's talking about this rookie class and how good they are. It's only one white bitch is killing it, type shit. But no, and nobody. You know, the weird thing is I didn't see a lot of people calling for his job, like people just like was like oh, that's crazy that he said that just kept him moving like yeah, because if steven a said that, that would that would have been.
Speaker 3:That would have been his ass. They would have. They would have clipped him all the way up. That would have been his black ass. That was wild to me, but I mean, that's just white privilege and the fact that he just that dude, he didn't end up apologizing like on a tweet and things like that.
Speaker 3:But I just looked when I saw that I'm thinking to myself bro, you got to be one ballsy motherfucker. You could have called her anything else. You could have called her a dame. You know abroad, you went straight to bitch young Immediately On.
Speaker 2:ESPN. That's so crazy. He wasn't even on a podcast, sir.
Speaker 3:No, he was on his podcast, but his podcast got bought by ESPN. He's licensing it through ESPN. Okay, so he kind of has a little bit of autonomy with them. But to just exercise it in that manner like I just don't think they understand how they look to us like just the, the black people in media and just people by and large. Because, like bro, who are you to fucking get some shit like that? All you were a punter, you know what I'm saying. Like you wasn't even like a quarter he was a peyton man.
Speaker 2:That's a position.
Speaker 3:Punter yeah, you play, like you know, a few times a game. It's actually kind of funny. The less you play, the better. Your team probably ends up winning more the more that you do what you are paid to do.
Speaker 2:Oh, so they just got to have you, just in case.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're like at fourth down and you know you don't want to give them the ball right where you have it at. You kick it so that they have to use the whole field to try to score again.
Speaker 2:Oh, so that's what the kicker's name is.
Speaker 3:There's a kicker and a punter, but the punter does what I just explained. Don't try to think too hard about it, just look cute. Alright, so no, we got to get into some more media stuff about this. Stephen A not having the best week. I'm just going to be honest with you. He's looking out here looking crazy as hell.
Speaker 2:I saw that girl kick your back in, not just girl.
Speaker 3:Let's make sure we have her name Monica McNutt.
Speaker 2:Yes, put some respect on that queen name.
Speaker 3:That intelligent young woman. First and foremost, foremost, I want to make sure I say this because what you did, you should be very proud of yourself, monica. You went out there in front of any adversity. You looked two of the most powerful black men in your field in the face on that zoom and you kept that 100. You didn't get emotional. You didn't give them any kind of reason to say that you was acting out of order. You kept it it calm, you got your point across and you showed your information and you should be proud of yourself. Honest, I'm gonna give you a hand clap for that and I don't want to look like I'm pandering and shit, because a lot of y'all niggas on ESPN were. It was lame as hell, but you you kept that shit 100%. So shout out to Monica McNutt you are gonna go places and we're gonna get into. You know the deep dives of this, but I want to play this clip just so y'all can see how she party Steve in that bitch ass.
Speaker 5:Gave that nigga the beanie, the beanie we're talking about them maximizing their great potential, and because we bring that up and talk about what potentially might get in their way which we do to men all the time now we gotta sit up here and watch every syllable. I resent that and I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 8:I know we gotta go to break. Welcome to the world of being a woman, Stephen A. And how you have to dance about your word choice and you have to please everybody and anybody as you navigate your being. We are talking about the world's greatest athlete. How about being a black? Man. Okay, hold on one second.
Speaker 7:So this is what I'm saying to y'all, though, and I know we gotta go to break, and we didn't necessarily go there and maybe we should.
Speaker 8:There are so many layers in this conversation around the way that it's being discussed. No, no, no and yes, shannon, I know y'all are going to say you know. And, stephen A, I know you just shared that you've talked about the WNBA on your program too. You guys may not have said everybody, but the prevailing sentiment for folks that are just joining the WNBA and following women's sports is unfair to the women of this league to your point, who have lazy groundwork for Kaitlyn Clark to come in and now take it to the next level. That's all I'm saying in these conversations. Kennedy Carter's behavior is not indicative of the entire league. We are still talking about competition, where you are allowed to get a little extra elbow in if you are competing and you do it within the parameters of the game. The game is physical. Caitlyn is helping to grow the league. These women understand that, but she cannot be babied as a rookie. That's all I'm at. Who talks about the?
Speaker 8:WNBA who talks? About women. Who talks about women's sports more than first take Stephen A respectfully with your platform. You could have been doing this three years ago if you wanted to Damn.
Speaker 3:Wake it up we got to go.
Speaker 8:You know you're my guy, but, stephen, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you.
Speaker 5:Wow, I'm talking to you about the power that you have. Okay, talk about it, okay, okay.
Speaker 4:All right, let's do it. You're my guy, but I'm talking to you. I got it. Guys, guys, guys. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 8:You're my girl, but you've missed a lot of episodes of First Take. You missed a lot, stephen. A point, monica, monica, you making. Stephen, a point, please let me do my job.
Speaker 6:Please let me do my job, we've gone for 40 minutes straight.
Speaker 4:It was a riveting discussion. I have to get in the commercial break.
Speaker 3:Hey, man, wake it up, man, she stood on business her she ain't let uh uh shannon, colloquial her to death?
Speaker 1:nope, none of that it wasn't going for none of it, shannon, like I don't fuck with you.
Speaker 2:I really I was like teeter-tottering in the beginning and now I'm standing on like I don't really fuck with you that much at the end, when he was like you make a stephen a boy. You literally are like grasping at straws to try to to um defend this man when you know that she just got him like. It's so entertaining to watch, though no.
Speaker 3:But then, like you didn't defend the man when she just cooked him, he over there looking crazy, you over there not defending him at all. He's sitting there looking nutso and you just sitting there like, oh shit, she got your boy, he can't process that quick. No. But people were saying that, oh, she's not going to be on first take anymore. Steven ain't going to have her on there less. So she was on there again. So they did have another clip where they brought her back on it. I don't think y'all y'all don't really understand the media landscape If y'all think that he going to push her to the side after that.
Speaker 2:After something went viral.
Speaker 3:For the one for the only purpose that I would say that for the only real idea you can say that he will not do that for is because that's the last kind of saving grace that he kind of has with the black community is with two black women. Last kind of saving grace that he kind of has with the black community is with through black women. Like he's very split with black men, there's only really a certain type of demographic that you would say is a steven, a fan. A lot of more people just come in because of the brand behind him. Uh, and he is around too many prominent black women and that's kind of like the curse of these kind of suave player type guys like this.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying saying he's like a, you know, a Rolling Stone or anything like that, but I'm saying I'm like what, when you have a lot of women around you, this becomes that you're, you know, you're Achilles heel. You can't. You can't fire a woman like that because they're going to be on your ass and it's like the fault of these niggas. You know, you hear a lot of these niggas that will say him like Charlamagne, oh, I really don't like working around a lot of men, everyone who works around me is women and they try to act like it's because they're like these diverse CEOs or these you know, open to seeing the thoughts and valuing women.
Speaker 3:It's like no, you know that you feel easier to control women and that's why you like women around you. You're not because you said, oh, I need a voice. No, you know that when you start putting your foot down all that stuff, you don't have to have that fear of another man coming at you. A particular kind of way, you feel comfortable with a woman delivering you that information because you feel a certain kind of strength over her. And that's where that's most of you guys don't say that, but that's the real truth behind that. That's not no cool shit.
Speaker 2:I didn't think that's what that was, but that's an interesting take on it. I thought they were just straight up lying.
Speaker 3:Oh, by having women hired around them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like you don't have teams of mostly women.
Speaker 3:Well, Charlamagne does. You can see that, though, but I believe that's why, because even when he had the girl Taylor that's on his show and this is not part of the topic but when he had girl Taylor on his show and she was talking too much on, you know, the Brilliant Itty's podcast, he made her to be like, oh no, you can't be on the mic anymore like that, or it's a lot less than it was. He made a real like episode about it, like it was a real thing, where he didn't want her talking that much because, oh, you need to do your job as a producer, not talent and so, but that's neither here nor there with it. Again, that's neither here nor there with it. Um, again, I don't see steven a not bringing her. I think she's gonna be on even more. I thought it was pretty lame. He did the. I made you uh, you know shit on his podcast. He went on his own podcast and, basically, did y'all know who monica mcnutt was before? Now who? Who was putting her on?
Speaker 2:like all that kind of shit, like that shit was so fucking gordy man, steven a, you are such a dork man like giving somebody an opportunity and then them like capitalizing off of that opportunity, and then you turning around and being like oh, I made you.
Speaker 3:That's some lame ass shit like it's so, corny bro, like you don't have to do this, like just sit back. She had her moment. She got you caught you slipping. Yeah, you did the little caitlyn clark interview before the whole championship shit with her and angel reese and all that cool, cool. That's not neither here nor there. Like my nigga, you know you wasn't moving like this before this white girl started popping up and that's just a hundred percent. You may have said a thing here and there, but you was not really out there doing crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she went on there and got your ass.
Speaker 3:So last thing we can touch on this so Angel Reese has been fouled hard a few times as well this year. She's had her taking her fair lumps and shares during the game. But again it doesn't feel the same way Like a lot of hers was kind of in the heat of the battle. Again it just it doesn't seem feel the same way like a lot of hers was kind of in the in the heat of the battle, but I just feel like okay. So as somebody who's not hearing much of what's going on, who do you think is playing better between her and caitlyn clark?
Speaker 3:just from what you just see, information wise that's what you feel like is paying better yeah okay no, that's what I would say is playing better, like the thing about Reese, and I don't want to feel like I'm hating on her, but I just feel like a lot of people aren't looking at her numbers for real Like she.
Speaker 2:I think I said Caitlyn, because you've probably talked to me about this before. Okay.
Speaker 3:Well, the reason why I said that is because, like she's shooting 33% from the field, right, and I know I made a little comment earlier like women really don't get that much athleticism in regards to playing basketball, but like I know you shooting around the basket but you gotta shoot better than 33% Like.
Speaker 2:I believe Kaitlyn is higher. What's?
Speaker 3:the average For a big person, like in the NBA, a big man who's decent is shooting 60. So I would at least say for a woman I would say 55-50. You shooting 33%? That's nuts, that's bad. Like she's not playing as good as what people try to say. It's just because of the position that she plays in ball.
Speaker 2:What position does she play?
Speaker 3:She's a forward. So I mean, she's really somebody who's just going to rebound the ball. She's going to play defense. She may hit a jump shot here and there, but she doesn't have to handle the ball. Kaitlyn Clark is handling the ball. She's going up and down the court. I have to dribble. People are going to trap her.
Speaker 3:So Kaitlyn's like a point guard, yeah, okay, and I feel so bad for her because the girls on her team are not that good at all. I done seen them miss easy. They done missed like it's just ridiculous some of the plays where she's just trying to get them wide open. They are wide open and they just blow it.
Speaker 2:You think they're going to try to get Kaitlyn and Angel on the same team?
Speaker 3:No, If anybody, what they need to do, they need to call Liz Cambage out from China and get her ass back in the WNBA. She's a 6'8 girl. She was the one and you know why. I think she'd be perfect. She don't like black women. She's a black mixed girl. But she be talking shit Like they was playing in the Olympics. I think it was the Olympics or one of the little trials and she was calling like the African girls, like names, like racial names.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Don't bring her back, leave ready. That's what you need. What do you mean? Bring the racist back?
Speaker 3:oh, you need her, she, she can't be racist. She part black. She just grew up in australia, so she got that little white girl what do you mean?
Speaker 2:she can't be racist, she's part black. Take that back right now that was idiotic.
Speaker 3:She's racist. You can't be black and racist.
Speaker 2:You can be prejudiced you can be part black and fucking hate black people and hate that part of yourself that's prejudice.
Speaker 3:That's prejudice is self-hate. I don't think she has. I just think she grew up in australia. She a tall white. I mean tall, uh woman.
Speaker 2:You know what I just said I don't know who this woman is.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you she's not right she's just this tall australian woman who didn't grow up around real black people and so she just has that. You're not from the culture vibe, okay. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean, what that's like.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Where someone who's not really like part of this shit you can just feel she's calling the African women names.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was crazy what.
Speaker 3:She said she didn't say that, but I think she did. He was getting that shit off.
Speaker 2:She just think because she bigger than everybody, she can bully people. Her little tall ass, she got a little only fans too for real check it out.
Speaker 3:I don't know why I immediately made that face. I'm sorry. She's proportional. That's the thing about her, though like it's proportional, it's not like she's just tall behemoth, but like it don't look decent like she I just assumed she had a really big head and very wide shoulders, oh shit all right, let's get off this young.
Speaker 2:You said she's 6'8". Like that's crazy. You can't be 6'8 and not have wide shoulders.
Speaker 3:Oh man All right, let's get into some NBA kind of stuff. That happened. So Anthony Edwards, he dropped a commercial for Adidas. So after he just got kicked out of playoffs, adidas had started doing their marketing campaign for him to get his shoes sold and he took a little shot to a few people. And so what? It is like they had this little machine where his homeboy was reading off the receipts of what people had to say and he said some shit that Cam had said and he shoots the ball and says fuck, buddy Talking about Cam.
Speaker 3:And so he goes into a lot more of the people who were talking trash about him. But then he even says one of my guys that I like kevin wilds, um. But then everything changes because cam comes into the picture. So you know, he does his sports show. I believe they're doing a daily show, it is what it is. But he comes to his sports show and he completely annihilates anthony edwards in the disc talking about he says he made a little abortion joke. He told that. He said a dude on the on the couch look like he a hubby, he want to love you and all this shit. Like he was really going at his head. He even went at melissa ford. So he was going. Yeah, he was taking shots at a lot of people well, how melissa ford getting this?
Speaker 3:well, you know she said that about uh him on the podcast about him and mace probably being with the girls okay, I thought you were talking about the basketball player.
Speaker 3:Came at melissa no, uh, cameron when he did his disc so my thing was it was a cool disc, cameron, one of the legendary mcs. I'm never going to take that away from him. But, dude, you like like 40 years old bro, like I just hate that he gets away with not being mature and I hate what he gets to stand for, for what a lot of niggas try to represent, because that shit is cool, because he is successful at it, but a lot of niggas try to emulate that. I'm just being myself, being Cam shit and y'all niggas is not that? Y'all not Cam.
Speaker 2:Harlem niggas have a disease. It's insane. Y'all literally think y'all are too cool just because you live in Harlem.
Speaker 3:And I think I said this on the last time we talked about Cam.
Speaker 2:Like literally the best thing since sliced bread. Because you are from Harlem, that is not the case.
Speaker 3:And I think I said this the last time we talked about Cam was like it's scary to think that he's the mature one in Dipset, like that's just nuts to think about all the BS he does and he's the mature one in Dipset, like what? Like, we got to stop that. That can't be. Niggas got to stop like idolizing this kind of shit, because that's the thing that's my problem with it. Cam be, cam, do what you got to do, get your shit off, be funny, but we got to stop idolizing it in the way that we do, because it's problematic in the long run.
Speaker 2:Like, like we was even talking about that interview that he did with shark, like he was talking about sleeping with a girl afterwards like dude, and you know that.
Speaker 3:Um, that shot that he took on the cnn interview it wasn't alcohol, it was like his honey pack or whatever, like yes, so that's what I'm saying it's nuts it was dick hardener. So that's what I'm saying. Like it's just.
Speaker 3:I understand people want to be like oh you doing what you want to do, but dog like, even with this diss track even though, yeah, you good at rapping, you went and did your thing. Like these shits, like it's time to just go to the next stage in your life, like it's time to put down the bars. You don't got to give us a nice little 16 anymore. It's okay to just stop.
Speaker 2:It's not bad to stop rapping arguably your rap talent um people have questioned, but that's not the no, not true, not true cam question. Cam has been one of the most legitimate it's, it's just his very um childlike rhyme schemes.
Speaker 2:I mean, that makes sense I can see where you could probably say that, but a lot of that should be doodah type but that shit, a lot of that shit, snap, I'm not going, I'm not gonna come here and hate anything on demand no, I like cam, but I said arguably, but like you, you could say that he's a great mc, but a lot of people say that he's like garbage I've never heard anybody say he's garbage.
Speaker 3:I may have seen they're not his favorite.
Speaker 2:So many people say he's straight up garbage.
Speaker 3:Well, you're from new york, so you'll see that, more than I would, cam wasn't like down here growing up, he'd be like flam and blam, blam them, slam and slam, blam them nigga what?
Speaker 2:that was a pop song. That was the song that he was trying to sell like that's why I'm saying I can't go off all that.
Speaker 3:That was the song he was selling.
Speaker 2:That's hate I'm not gonna do that. That's my shit but it's okay.
Speaker 3:It's okay to be a 40 year old man, though, like that's just I want to see. It's okay for you to come there, be a former rapper and now you coming to talk about sports and you don't have to give us no bars anymore, you can just talk about your sports show, my man, that's all. I'm saying it just at one point. When does it look different? Because even like, with back to the queen's flip, shit like queen's flip right now is on the trajectory to be a professional crash out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like why do you not ever want to change that trajectory or that image? And it just seemed like with cam at this time you have the best platform ever to do that and you just seem to come on, always want to go back, do to that like it's some type of like home base form do you think that maybe he's just a dickhead?
Speaker 3:I mean pretty sure, but I mean that's that doesn't mean you won't change. 50 cent is a dickhead, but he's mature, matured into something else you know what?
Speaker 2:50 cent is a dickhead. But I think he is a calculated dickhead. I don't think he does anything for no reason. Oh, 100, I don't think. I think cam tried to pull like a 50 type move, but he wasn't smart enough to do that. But 50 from jump has been a calculated dickhead. The first single he dropped was calculated dickheadery I mean his whole career.
Speaker 2:He's basically had it mapped out with the steps he was going to take, so I agree with you on that and then um row, timmy went on poor minds this week and he talked about how 50 cent um there was like a little beef they had where um 50 cent made it seem like he owed him money. But rotimi was signed to 50 cents label and he had just dropped like a, an album and then he was like he called him up. He was like yo, I'm gonna tell the shade room or i'ma post and make it seem like you owe me money, blah, blah, blah. But after every sentence I'm going to say your number one album. And then Timmy was like I'm not, I'm not sure about this because you making me sound broke.
Speaker 2:And then 50 was like nah, it's fine, I'm a do. It hangs up. Five minutes later it's on the shade room. It blows up in his album charts. That's what you'ma do. It hangs up. Five minutes later it's on the shade room. It blows up and his album charts that's what you gotta do, though like 50 cent.
Speaker 2:Like you, it seems like he's just doing nonsense and being an asshole for absolutely no reason, but I'm sure every time he's an asshole he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's at the minimum, at the minimum. So I see his chaos in a completely different light than I used to. So now I'm just going to pay a little bit more attention to 50 Cent and what he's doing, in accordance to what fuckery he wants us to look at online. Yeah, it's an operation he's already got that Diddy doc that's about to accordance to what fuckery that he wants us to look at online.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all. It's an operation like. So he's already got that diddy doc that's about to go to netflix. So now it's dope, it's up for, it's always gonna be up for diddy I mean up for uh 50 yeah always all right. So we gotta stay into the hip-hop world, man. So the beef of all beefs have started. We thought we we were just getting kendrick and and this year, no, no, no, sir, we had to go a little bit. Bia, are you know bigger? Cardi B and Bia are going head to head at each other.
Speaker 3:It did not land, it didn't, it's okay. That's why I kept it moving, you didn't have to bring it back to that, though.
Speaker 2:I feel like I did no, that's hate. I feel like I did no, that's hate you deserved shame for that.
Speaker 3:That was hate, that was your hate, that was your animosity and that's you know. I don't understand why that even lives inside of you, but Cardi B and Bia are going at it right now.
Speaker 2:The beef that we didn't need. It's not even beef.
Speaker 3:We needed this. No, we needed this. It's not beef.
Speaker 2:This is some real smoke beyond me, so it started off.
Speaker 3:It started off I was really kind of fucking with Cardi the way it kind of. When I saw how it came after me she dropped her. You know remix with Megan Gorilla. She was on the Was it Wanna Be song. She goes out, drops her shit, disses her, steps on a lot of the the bars that I think that she was trying to use on uh, on cardi. And then she goes on live and she plays the diss song that be a half ever at first. So she's out here really moving crazy like I'm looking at her like oh okay, cardi really doing her shit. Then she lost me because bia then does the next song. She, you know, she gets in the booth, does her thing. On this one I thought it wasn't that bad. The only thing I didn't like about it like don't say someone can't keep up with the beat on a song that you not keeping up with the beat with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, girl, I didn't like the song.
Speaker 3:We listened to it in spaces and we sped it up and it actually sounded a hell of a lot better sped up. So I think once they the master version comes out and people really get a good opportunity to listen to the whole thing I don't think it's gonna come out because it wasn't received well in the first place.
Speaker 2:We don't want that nonsense. Keep it, please. I don't think the bars weren't bad.
Speaker 3:I like the shit she said me and my girls don't like your tattoos. Yeah, that's shade it's giving.
Speaker 2:I'm a fan and I'm looking at, I'm screenshotting pictures of you and putting it in the group chat and it's just giving weird ass energy.
Speaker 3:She said you had the surgery to get the face, like me. That was a bar, like she was snapping.
Speaker 2:She was snapping on her. That was a bar. Let's take a really quick break, really quickly, because it is Rhetoric's birthday today. I mean, when they hear this, it's going to be past my birthday, it's going to be past your birthday, but it's 12, and I was trying to Happy birthday baby.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:He is a ripe old, 32. Old ass. Man Don't hate that's hate, let me come here.
Speaker 3:Get that off of me. Trying to, trying to.
Speaker 2:My mom reminded me that it's his birthday because she just walked past and blew me a kiss and I was like oh my god, she's so sweet, I love her so much.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, it's my husband's birthday hey, no, this is what we all have right.
Speaker 2:No other place I'd rather be is giving the content to the people, so yeah this is this is what I love to do but, um, I feel like the, the bars were lackluster, the beat was I, the, the flow was garbage and I didn't want it and I don't need it. And then Cardi came out on live and then was talking about how, um, she talked about oh. She was like, oh, nobody lying on my pussy, so I'm gonna sue you. Girl, stop suing people and get in the fucking booth. We tired of this. Get in the booth, you are a rapper.
Speaker 2:I mean, you've been spending more money on lawyer fees than you have on marketing for music at this point. What is happening? Cardi? Stop running to lawyers. In the beginning of your career, you was fully like blood and all you've done is run to the police. If you were a male rapper, you would have been out of here a long time ago. That's true, a very long time ago. But you, you're a woman, so we have, we have different rules and shit. But like, come on, this is this is not enough. You talk about she lied on your pussy, she.
Speaker 2:She talked about your children she did and used their names she used their names in the song and what you're talking about is oh, you lied on my pussy, so I'm a girl. I hope. I wish you did cheat on offset I will say this I hope you do cheat on, please cheat on Offset. God damn it.
Speaker 3:I will say this, though I will say this Drake said cease and desist are for hoes. So in this kind of rap beefing situation seems like fair play to me.
Speaker 2:Cease and desist over hoes.
Speaker 3:No, he said cease and desist are for hoes. So the women are doing their thing, I believe.
Speaker 2:I'm getting tired of it, Cardi.
Speaker 3:It's all fair game with y'all. Y'all can do whatever Like there is. No, oh, y'all have to follow these sets of rules. No, don't Y'all just do what y'all want.
Speaker 2:She did not say nothing. Crazy enough for you to Look like a little pussy. You look like a pussy, I mean, but she's, and we're women and we don't even like. We have lower standards of like looking like pussies and you.
Speaker 3:That's what you look like, man. Hopefully, hey Cardi man, give us the album That'll cure all this, I promise you.
Speaker 2:Just give us the album. Don't just give us the album, because if you give us some nonsense, then I'm done.
Speaker 3:So you've had some conversation that you believe that Song of the Summer has been released.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it hasn't been released by the way.
Speaker 3:Well, it's been snippet the Song of the.
Speaker 2:Summer is definitely coming. What's the name of?
Speaker 3:the song. Oh, she hasn't really named. It's not out yet, so it's not released. There's no name, it's just they call it 7 pm or whatever. Yes.
Speaker 2:It's probably going to be like with my niggas or turned up with my niggas, because that's what she says in the hook. But this song Glorilla dropped this song, a snippet of it, and it has taken the entire like, not even just TikTok. Tiktok, Instagram, like all of the social media platforms by storm, and I'm sure you've heard it I ain't got no nigga. Ain't no nigga Ain't got me what. It makes me wish I wasn't married, and what.
Speaker 3:That's how we, that's how we, that's how we doing it right now. Just a little bit.
Speaker 2:That's fucked up. It makes me want to be outside in questionable clothing around men that don't care about me.
Speaker 3:Yo, this is the poison that y'all put in. You're not allowed to listen to that song anymore. This is nothing but the poison.
Speaker 2:I don't nigga and the nigga ain't got me Every time that come on, I'm like oh my God, but I love my husband.
Speaker 3:You don't live that life. You can't speak on that. You can't live that life.
Speaker 2:I'ma still be outside singing it with my I ain't got no, nigga ain't, no, nigga ain't got me. I'ma be outside singing it with my heart, my chest. Lies be a lot. That's all you're going to be spewing, because I'm going to crawl up right next to my nigga after.
Speaker 3:I'm done. Nah, I'm going to tell you I thought you nigga ain't got you. You ain't got no nigga and no nigga ain't got you.
Speaker 2:Go over there, Go back to the other side of the bed she said turnt up with my niggas. I can't wait till she drop that. I'm going to be speeding down the bar, okay, blasting in my, in my little honda civic roxy.
Speaker 3:the speakers just giving it to be blasting all the information to line you up oh my bad, roxy, just block out.
Speaker 2:Uh, beep out the. Yeah, her name is roxy, though just get y'all all the information, just to line her all the way up Easy money. But all of those locations like, doesn't it go throughout the United States?
Speaker 4:I mean partly Like it goes through multiple states, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:But you know you gave another closer indication and people know we are in Atlanta, so but it's all right.
Speaker 2:Salute, trying to get everyone knew that street was there.
Speaker 3:No, you're trying to get all that's going to be taken care of, but no in regards to with Gorilla keeping it up. So they did just have a concert here in Atlanta. One of the shows got canceled because our mayor is horrible at, you know, keeping infrastructure intact.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there was a water main break in downtown atlanta so there were a bunch of like hotels in different residential areas and other places like make the stallions concert that was, uh, affected by it, so all of the hotties were very upset oh no, and I'm so glad we moved, because we would have been in the boil warning area Like that would have been so lame. Yeah, there was a boil water advisory that went out to the city of Atlanta, ghetto.
Speaker 3:Luckily we got out of there, but damn. And then they're going to reschedule. From what I heard I don't know if it's I think it's next month- they're going to reschedule, so they'll Meg back on here, but she did end up doing one show yeah, she did the Sunday show, I believe and I think that got uh. That was pretty live. I saw a lot of people uh posting from that, so she brought Lotto out. Yeah, they did, and then all the girls were like backstage.
Speaker 2:I think she was backstage with um Flo Millie and like a couple of the other rap girls. I like when I see the young rap girlies together, Honestly, because the whole like choosing sides between Cardi and Nicki I feel like y'all should just say fuck that and y'all are just gonna be young and hot and have fun. You're supposed to be young and hot and having fun.
Speaker 3:But most of them are most of them girls. They had already picked sides. They already against Nicki. So I mean it wasn't kind of a hard choice. It was Megan Lotto already.
Speaker 2:Flo hasn't really chose a side. Flo Millie hasn't chosen a side.
Speaker 3:Now, when you get seen out with them, you can pick the side. Gorilla already picked a side. She not cool with JT, jt cool with Nikki.
Speaker 2:Gorilla has singles with Cardi, though.
Speaker 3:I mean, Cardi was just on stage with them. Cardi ain't cool with Nicki either.
Speaker 2:You said oh, I said JT. Yeah, I mistook what you said I said JT's with Nicki. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I mean it's clicked up, it's click central, it's super clicked up. I mean, it's pretty self-evident where everybody is trying to do this.
Speaker 2:I just feel like the girls that sided with with Cardi might be having a little bit more fun. It just seems like that seems like the more fun group to be with.
Speaker 3:I mean you don't have your leader doing a coke bender. I love JT, though I'm just saying when you don't have your leader doing a coke bender every once in a while. Don't get me wrong. Now Bardi does do some wild shit. I was about to say I feel like coke benders are synonymous with each side. That just seems like the new move. Everybody's just going out on a Coke bender.
Speaker 2:What's going on in Hollywood? Why do y'all keep doing drugs and getting on? Live it's the Ozempic.
Speaker 3:The Ozempic making y'all look crazy. Ozempic making everybody crash out.
Speaker 2:Like what is happening with y'all.
Speaker 3:We? What is happening with y'all? We need to figure this out. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:It can't be only y'all are like crashing out doing coke, is that it?
Speaker 3:it's the zimp, everybody is doing ozempic, everybody's crashing out because of that. Everybody has all of these things that they want to get done to themselves, and then they go on tv and go on the internet and cry about their veneers all right.
Speaker 2:So, um, I don't know if y'all saw but, but Winter Blanco she's one of the hosts on Behind the Likes pod. She made a video on the internet, on the interwebs. She was literally like tears streaming down her face and she was talking about how much she regrets getting veneers and how much pain she's in regularly and all of these things, and it generally just was not received well. I don't know if y'all remember her, but she's from bad girls club, so she has a podcast now. On this podcast she regularly talks shit about people, as do we. I would never go on the internet after regularly just like making my brand off of talking shit about people and then like, um, thinking that people are gonna give me sympathy for any reason at all like your brand is bitch.
Speaker 2:Like you you're. You're a mean girl. Like that's your brand. That's what you have been from the beginning. So, coming on the Internet crying, people Are going to revel in that, regardless of whether that's the morally high ground to take or not. People want to swim in pools of your tears. They like want to make a water park out of just your tears Splish. Splash, I mean mean sponsored by your.
Speaker 3:Your pain, let's be honest like you've made a career like of just being someone who is a vanity, so no one's going to give a fuck that the vanity now has turned its back on you yeah like you went in you tried to get the little fake teeth because you was mad at your real teeth or whatever.
Speaker 2:You didn't think about it in in the whole regard of what exactly what you're doing making yourself look like a black woman, like as close to a black woman as you can, still being a white girl and it's just like it didn't come out right for you.
Speaker 3:You, you botch yourself up and now you got to pay thousands of dollars just so your mouth don't hurt.
Speaker 2:No more like yeah, and you should have did your research because you should have known that there are so many nerve endings and like sensitive things in your gums. You shouldn't fuck with your teeth for absolutely no reason. You shouldn't just replace all of them. That shit is stupid. Everyone that gets veneers Just not at a dentist for not a medical reason is stupid. Sorry to say it If it sounds hard, all y'all are stupid.
Speaker 3:You putting fucking dentures in your mouth like like, for no fucking reason. Nothing at all like it's all just for vanity.
Speaker 2:So now you have to. You have to, uh, lay in the bed that you, you made and nobody's like.
Speaker 3:I said nobody's gonna care about what you're like. You, the girl other girl on your podcast, you know she's the one who said that if you're gay, if you sleep with a whole bunch of women, that was like her, her viral video. But it's like nobody's gonna care that you messed up in your attempts of self-vanity, like it's. So it's over with, just charge it to the game, be glad.
Speaker 2:You be glad your mouth don't bleed when you talk and you gotta pay another 30 racks you might have a little tissue, a little towel that you dab, edit that out on the pod. We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 3:Little cuts in there just to make sure the blood don't get on your teeth and on your outfit. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:But there were so many other influencers that came out that were like yeah, bitch, good for you Because you said this, this, this about me.
Speaker 2:Bitch good for you. Because you said this, this, this about me. There were so many people that literally were like I feel no remorse or sympathy for winter because she, on time and time and time again, came at me for absolutely no reason. So I think you should have not posted that on the internet. I think you should have went to your actual circle, your loved ones, for support or whatever the fuck you needed, because the internet doesn't care about you.
Speaker 3:You know that now, like we, we don't have general sympathy for you like and you could have played it off by trying to like act like you were warning other people that would have been a better like, but it's like you can tell that you're just not a bright girl you were literally crying, anybody yeah anybody that comes crying on the internet like unless you've been through some like truly traumatic shit, self inflicted shit yes, like if you, if you like, like hold on.
Speaker 3:She did this to herself. She did no, it was no. No, somebody did this, you did this to yourself, you the one who took the cheap route and whatever you did for your mouth, and now you got to live with it and nobody's here going like it's just disgusting because you're like slick kind of using the white girl tears type operation because you do like pass as white, like you're trying to like take advantage of that.
Speaker 2:I don't know what she's white even if she is or isn't what do you mean? Passes she's?
Speaker 3:I don't know she is I thought maybe she's been spicy white oh, like she's a white girl okay, you're a white girl. Definitely nobody's gonna have any sympathy, anything for you. For that like it's. It's just crazy, she's a white girl.
Speaker 2:It's that she is a bitchy white girl a mean girl.
Speaker 2:No, just a mean girl, point blank. She has been a mean girl. People didn't necessarily like, like love her on black bad girls club. She made her mark because she was a mean girl and then now she has this platform. So it has nothing to do with her race. You're just a bitch like and people aren't gonna care about the bad things that you're going through, especially when they're self-inflicted. If this was something traumatic that you went through that wasn't your fault, then maybe people would have had a different reaction. But everyone like generally just doesn't care at all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I mean we really shouldn't.
Speaker 2:We should probably laugh at you more yeah, if we're being honest, I think so, like it, give us more content like this, so we can talk about you and shit on you the whole veneer thing has been going viral on on tiktok and just like dentists coming out and saying that like this is something that y'all really should not be doing. Like going to someone who is not medically certified to play in your mouth is stupid as fuck and whatever consequence that you get from that decision, you deserve period. I don't care what vanity you're chasing after. You have to care about your health.
Speaker 2:There are so many other things that are connected to the to your dental health your heart is a big one your brain well, she doesn't have that, but I'm just talking in general now, like all the people who go get veneers, cheap veneers, this and that, stop it y'all only hurting yourself at the end of the day, yeah, and we gonna laugh at you. You're gonna have a mouse full of horse teeth.
Speaker 3:I'd rather I'd rather have the shitty originals than like the faulty fakes.
Speaker 2:Honestly. Adult braces like let's stop shaming adults. I want us to shame adult braces much less than we shame veneers. I want us to shame veneers about quadruple the amount that we used to shame adult braces so that people go back to just getting braces, like invisalign is a thing. They have the braces on the inside of your teeth like get your work with you get your teeth together that's all.
Speaker 3:Protect your teeth. Get a little bleaching, you know, and then you good in good in the game.
Speaker 2:Go to the dentist.
Speaker 3:Well, the dentist don't put this is the orthodontist. I think it's the orthodontist that puts the braces.
Speaker 2:No, the dentist is the regular care. Go to the dentist, they help too Get a water flosser, anything, just be better Okay so God damn.
Speaker 3:Did you see Summer Jam just happen.
Speaker 2:I did see summer jam happen and I saw, um, uh, red and method man come out and say that, um, they will no longer be doing summer jam because that crowd they've. They've basically like aged out yeah like it's too young of a crowd. The crowd doesn't really know their, their material. They weren't getting the energy that they usually get, so they were like you know what? This is just not the crowd for us and I I love that?
Speaker 3:I don't think that, but see, that's what I thought too when I first read and heard the quote. I thought is what you were saying.
Speaker 2:They felt like the lineup of summer jam though, yeah, but I mean it was like we can get into, because they said that just to kind of give more context about this.
Speaker 3:They said that Method and Ray were performing in a DJC or MC. Mr C, I think that's his name, rip. He passed away, but they were just doing a memorial set for him and they were a part of that set. But the thing was like I thought when I first heard his quotes he was saying that like, oh you know, us in the crowd have kind of aged out of each other, but what I kind of gathered from him and he was kind of criticizing like the age of the crowd was reflected of them not being able to turn up and have a good time like I feel like he was, he was blaming the audience more than he was just blaming time itself.
Speaker 2:You feel what I'm saying yeah, he was definitely blaming the audience. He was like these niggas are too young. They weren't hyped to see us specifically because they don't know who we are. We don't get them hype.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, and I feel like that's more of a criticism of your lack of involvement in the game. Like niggas, know you now from acting when we think about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they know him well, method man, specifically from being fine as fuck.
Speaker 3:All right relax. And from power and shit, but no, that's what I'm saying Like more people know him from something else.
Speaker 3:Don't nobody know who Redman is If he's not putting out any music and you up there doing the Charleston, like, come on, they over there doing a routine set together with just him and fucking Redman, nobody else, no other dancers Like we already talked about the production of hip-hop in regards to their performances. The men and you. The men are ogs in this game and you talk about, oh you mad, because they not happy to see you and another nigga on stage.
Speaker 2:You're not giving niggas nothing but like there is a certain crowd, no bro, like no fuck that fuck that.
Speaker 3:Because y'all could have got the niggas from uh, what's that movie, the uh the wu-tang show off on FX or whatever that shit is on Hulu. You could have got Davies, you could have got the nigga who they was going to play Redman, and y'all niggas could have got busy and had a real good performance like really got live up there. And you know they didn't, you know they didn't.
Speaker 2:Listen, Listen. It doesn't matter what Red and Method man are doing on the stage.
Speaker 2:They little one, two If they on the stage sword off shotgun hand on the I am hype, I'm in the crowd, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la, like it doesn't matter. But if you don't know, like they don't have to do, you don't have to do much. When you're a legacy act and you have songs that have been classics for mad long, I don't blame them for not having the. Hey, hey, hey, one, two, like they don't need that dumb niggas is old red man looks like a crackhead that has recovered from the crack era. Okay, method man, fine.
Speaker 3:Not too much.
Speaker 2:Age like fine wine.
Speaker 2:It is interesting to see how, like aesthetically Let me finish my point they don't need all of the hoopla and all of this, and that They've been that for a very long time They've been able to get on stage. I think they do have stage presence enough. They're better than some of these new niggas. They have stage presence enough and then it's been too long for them to need to do that. They also aren't regularly doing shows like that. When they do do a show, it's like a like, a this and that you know, like whatever they were doing, like a tribute. So I don't think they need to they're. They're not like practicing in the, in the studio, on a regular basis I mean.
Speaker 3:another problem is I think they're kind of like suffering for what we said about cam in the opposite direction, because he was up there dressed like a 40-year-old man. He had a button up shirt on, he had some shorts you know little five-inch shorts on and shit Like he looked like an older gentleman. So like that's where it's like if you're going to come into the Summer Jam dressed like Method and red, bring the energy with that. Don't be doing a one, two step and actually give these kids what the people and yesterday experienced, were they doing the?
Speaker 3:they was doing the one, two, you know no but that's the.
Speaker 2:That's the same routine they do with like. It's famous for that and if that crowd knew that, they would have been hyped. They are correct. They do that same choreography with the same songs. They have been for a long time. It's famous with those songs but it's not the little crisscross with them, like holding each other and like stepping.
Speaker 3:It's crisscross like that you gotta bring more, though. No, they don't. They gotta bring, they don't. If you want to hit with the younger crowd, if you want to sit there and look like a fool on stage, if, fucking Michael.
Speaker 2:Jackson is on stage and he don't moonwalk, these niggas ain't got no thriller. Relax, but shut up. I'm not saying thriller. If Michael Jackson is on stage and he don't moonwalk, nigga that you are known for, so that's what they're known for. Do the thing that we came to see you do. But this crowd did not come to see Red and Method man. This crowd came to see Doja Cat. This crowd came to see Sexy Red.
Speaker 3:This crowd came to see DeVito.
Speaker 2:So not only was it young and African American, it was African T-Grizzly Offset Like Red and Meth were the only old school niggas on that stage. Y'all need to. I completely agree with y'all. Y'all were just in the wrong crowd for y'all to be appreciated the way y'all need to be appreciated, and I'm glad that they weren't like super salty about it and they were like you know what? These were just kids, you know, because honestly in new york there's like older people going to summer jam, yeah, but like summer jam is really like a young, like mid, like, uh, early 20s type of thing'm just going to say that y'all legacy acts cannot sit and rest on y'all loyals.
Speaker 3:Y'all need to out here, show up and really give people a performance, an authentic performance, and y'all can't be out here blaming the crowd because y'all can't get them hyped. If these songs are lit like we know they are, then you got to be able to get that to the crowd. You've done it for years and you got to do it again, especially when you ain't been on the crowd in a long time. Don't go out there and make a fool of yourself.
Speaker 2:Let us know what you guys think. We're going to clip this up. This is definitely a good conversation. Let us know what you think. Do you think that the legacy people like Red Meth Snoop, like people who have solidified themselves, they have classics in the rap game. Do you think that they need to keep innovating? Not when they're performing new music, when they're performing their classics? Do you think they need to keep innovating to make the performance um more interesting? Or do you think the fact that this is a classic is the performance? Because I think the fact that this is a classic is the performance, because I think the fact that this is a classic is the performance. It brings out nostalgia, it, it. It's a different, it hits a different part of your brain when it's a classic, so it doesn't need too much, it doesn't need all the frill and feathers.
Speaker 3:To me, no, I mean you have. You have to know your audience.
Speaker 2:Let us know what you guys think.
Speaker 3:But you got to know your audience. I mean, the answer main thing is going to be you got to know your audience. Like you have to know the field that you're playing in. If you're going to be in a place that you may be unfamiliar with in regards to a newer wave of people, you have to, of course, be innovative and with your old material, because that's the only way you're going to pick up new people like that.
Speaker 3:Old sound is an old sound for a reason. It it had its place in history and now it's time to move on. But if you can adapt adapt in situations like that, because I there's plenty of times where I've seen crowds that probably shouldn't know a song and they do because they rock with it, not because they know it, but because the way it's hit, the way it played, the way they performed the actual music, even from a DJ perspective. So it's just about you know, being on top of your game, and that's what I want to see more people of, and I like to hold these kind of people more accountable to that instead of just letting them rest on their laurels.
Speaker 2:And I feel like the younger rap fans. Do y'all feel a sense of like, needing to go back and listening to like the reference material? Basically, like, because I'm an immigrant? When I fell in love with hip-hop in around 2005, 2006, I was listening to like Power 105, hot 97, right, it was all like power 105 9, uh, hot 97 right, it was all like radio hits. When I finally realized I was like, okay, let me go back, let me listen. I listened to, I had lists, I listened to albums and albums like I was studying, because I was like I can't love this if I don't go back and listen to the, the stuff that was before.
Speaker 2:I feel like, because of, um, the fact I see this on TikTok and Twitter and regularly, like someone will uh, sample an older song and then another newer artist will sample the same old song and then y'all think the the new artist is ripping off the new artist, when it's like, no, both these artists sampled this song and why do y'all not know the, the song that was sampled? Do y'all not feel, as hip-hop lovers of a new generation, a slight sense of like I want not a responsibility, but do y'all not want to go back and like listen to that, because I wanted to. I wanted to know where things were coming from. When I was learning about, like hip hop and the fact that, like things were sampled and things came, I was I don't know, maybe it's the nerd in me I wanted to go learn about like the older rappers.
Speaker 3:It's too much material now, like you got to think about back in our day. You could I hate saying that shit back when we were younger you could you could go and really get a lot of the information that came out.
Speaker 3:There was a lot of gatekeeping and what came out, so it wasn't like so much music per se to in relation to now. So now when you tell people that and how many years have passed since the internet has been readily available for people to upload their, their works of art, it's kind of hard to tell people to do this and not make it feel like homework. So no people are just going to enjoy what they want to enjoy, like homework.
Speaker 2:It did when I was doing it, but I was, it was in.
Speaker 3:It was homework that was self-inflicted, that I was enjoying there's a difference between someone giving you, like iron man, one, one, two and three and telling you to watch those three movies, and then someone saying, hey, no, watch the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe. You know what I'm saying? It's just a more effort that needs to take place so I can understand where it's like nah, I'm not going to watch all that, I'm not going to go back and listen to.
Speaker 2:Ice Cube. I'm going to pick the parts that I like. I'm going to start where I like it and go from there. I did. I was listening to nwa projects like there were. There were albums and songs I listened to once. I never thought about it, never came back to, but I genuinely felt, as like someone who was falling in love with hip-hop, that it was necessary like I have full tribe called quest albums on my in my shit till this day.
Speaker 3:Also, too, you gotta take into consideration and we can wrap it up with this one. But you gotta take into consideration where it's like we had a tangible process with music, like you had to go to the store, record store, you had to oh no, I was full limewire.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm saying like, just in general, like my, my era, when I was falling in love and doing that was LimeWire. I was like going back Googling, like this artist, their projects, downloading full projects, sitting down listening to track one to track last.
Speaker 3:But we still had tangible uses for the music. So if you wanted to give that music to somebody else, we were still making playlists, we were still putting it on like our iPads and shit like like that. We had shit that was just for music still. Yeah yeah, so we can still have a relationship with just music. Now you're what your music on is the same shit. You watch your movies on the same shit, you know I'm saying so.
Speaker 2:It's very different, because I don't even listen to music as much as I used to. I don't. I'm not in love with hip-hop as much as I used to be. I listen to podcasts in the car.
Speaker 3:Now there's so many different forms of content that we can. We want to hear people talk about thoughts and expand our own thoughts.
Speaker 2:I'd be on my way to work listening about gruesome murders. No, gruesome murders.
Speaker 3:That's because y'all I put brutal and gruesome together, that's because you're a sicko. But we got some more stuff to add that will probably fall under that word. So it's back in that season again. We got allegations going around, One for the Dream and also Kanye West. So the Dream situation he's had allegations of great battery sex trafficking with a woman.
Speaker 3:I believe she was his prodigy and essentially she had like from from the article I read, it did not have any of the statements that she said what was going on. All they kind of said was and I don't know, maybe this could have been a dream. You know, his associates part of this production, but, uh, this article. But they were just saying, like she said that he was gonna make her into like the next rihanna, he's gonna have her opening up for big acts and stuff like that in exchange for them having a relationship yeah, he also was.
Speaker 2:Like I write for beyonce, you know I can get you around beyonce.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was basically saying I can get you right if you just give me your body. And and she did that under those pretenses. But I heard some other places that they were saying that there was some allegations of him tying her down. Oh, you know being like super duper, aggressive and abusing her.
Speaker 2:He said he could get her on Beyonce'sce's tour. A sponsorship extent expansion of her visa, because she was from um the netherlands. Yeah, so she was 23 when she met him.
Speaker 3:Mangrove is her last name and so no, but that's what I'm saying. Like I didn't see any of the articles I read about. I didn't see too much of the actual you know assaults that she was a legend so um he said there was.
Speaker 2:Um. Their relationship eventually turned violent, but it started with like him tracking her um reading all of her text messages, him needing to know where she was at all hours of the day. Um him forcing her to drink. Him um strangling her way too violently during intercourse until she lost consciousness. He refused to wear a condom during intercourse. Whenever they did have into intercourse um she was forced to um hide her birth control pills from him because apparently he was just trying to like, without her consent, get her pregnant. Um he berated her during sex. He filmed it and used it as leverage. Forcibly her upgraped her um on the same evening that he performed, he forced her to form uh perform sexual acts in a public movie theater. So maybe the article you read didn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Complex article didn't say none of that. This is the.
Speaker 2:Variety article.
Speaker 3:Okay, complex didn't say none of that. Complex was making it seem like Shardy was just mad she didn't get the bag.
Speaker 2:No, this is like a long list of horrible things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Complex, y'all wrong for that. Y'all definitely wrong for that. Complex is not a reliable source, though I mean, I wasn't reading it, neither is.
Speaker 2:I don't know if Variety is a more reliable, but I do think Variety is a more reliable source than Complex, but yeah, Okay, no, they actually do say that here.
Speaker 3:I'm seeing it right here. Nah, they added to this Because when I read it the other day that this wasn't on there, but they did. They do have it right here. We said the refusal to wear strangle, you know all that stuff. So no like, hey bro, this is a civil case, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, so she's, she's seeking compensatory. Is that? Am I saying that? Compensatory compensatory, yeah, um the uh damages connected to the loss of income from her experiences, a monetary judgment for her emotional distress, and punitive and exemplary damages and legal related fees yeah they definitely had to update this shit, because when I went through it the first time, I'm like dang why are they making it seem like because they had the serious stuff in the headline?
Speaker 3:I'm like dang. Why are they making it seem like because they had the serious stuff in the headline? I'm like why y'all not exploring what's going on here, like you can't just tell me this happened and then not explain what exactly went down. Yeah, at least from her point of view. But no, I mean. No, they explained he gonna. I don't see him at any capacity doing that. Him, Nia, all y'all boys looking real nasty and the like.
Speaker 2:And he's definitely never working with Beyonce. Ever again Don't Beyonce be washing her hands Okay.
Speaker 3:I promise you one thing is really going to happen. He's just going to use his real name for the credit, like he's going to. He has that kind of pen Like we not.
Speaker 2:Wait, but like on the past couple albums, like Beyonce has fully like scrapped songs with like people who had Me Too allegations. For sure but Dream different.
Speaker 3:Dream pin is different.
Speaker 2:We'll see, but I don't think so. I think there are a lot of Denny pin single ladies.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, he's different.
Speaker 2:And I also do think really quickly. I think that when you're a writer who? No, let me not say that, because there are writers who can write hits for different eras, right? Yeah, I don't know if Dream is one of those, for so far he's been, is he I? Don't know what the last one of those For so far he's been, Is he? I don't know what the last hit he's written has been I mean he's done a lot for Ciara.
Speaker 3:He had a lot of Ciara's early hits, A lot of her early hits.
Speaker 2:Okay, but recently I'm talking about Like in 2020, forward.
Speaker 3:So are we really right now having to do this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead and Google, but I'm just saying that there are some writers who transcend eras and times and there are writers who have a certain era and a sound on lock and I feel like Dream might have.
Speaker 3:You think he's an error?
Speaker 2:I think he might be Come on man.
Speaker 3:But I don't know that man's pen like that and then the one thing, too, that's gonna save him he has a crazy real name, so you put that. I'm not trying to say that terrius adula ya gahila d demente or de monte.
Speaker 2:Where is he from? I didn't know.
Speaker 3:Dream was like like this nigga got the craziest name.
Speaker 2:Terrius Adamu. Yeah, oh, his last name is hyphenated, so it's Gesteldy Diamant. So one of his parents is obviously African and the other is something else.
Speaker 3:No, this is definitely. He can put that shit on anything and no one's gonna know who that is Like this is definitely. He can put that shit on anything and no one's going to know who that is. He has the greatest cover, so let's see what's the most recent. So Sex Tape 4 was his discography he dropped in 2020. It ain't got his. Oh, producer, chris, here we go, come on bro we talking about somebody who wrote for Mariah Carey. This nigga is that.
Speaker 2:Okay, title has a whole written by the dream like thing.
Speaker 3:Playlist.
Speaker 2:And it's 64 songs. Okay, so he has had songs on Renaissance. Oh my God, let me take all that back, told you, because I have no idea. I'm that girl. It's not the diamonds um cozy, comfortable in my skin. Oh my god, cuff it, he wrote, cuff it. He wrote. Rolling stone. I'm trying to. I can't believe brett vias, I can't believe you would even know, because. I, he wrote.
Speaker 2:This is that nigga, no, church, no. He wrote on break my soul. The nigga made shawty is a 10. That's my shit too. Like, come on, like what are we talking about? A legendary? He writes for Brent a lot. He wrote on Brent's. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be oh he wrote on moving Now go away. No, he wrote on moving mouth, go away now.
Speaker 7:We're fast, I'm going to be honest with you. Oh no, that's climax.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be honest with you. I wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce signs the check to this girl. That's how impactful this nigga is.
Speaker 2:Nah that nigga pen is crazy.
Speaker 3:Like I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 2:When I was saying what I was saying, I was saying that I didn't know which Ignorance. Say saying that I didn't know ignorance. Say that, speak it. That's true. It was out of ignorance.
Speaker 3:I didn't know which one he was was he the person who, or I told you he wrote single ladies?
Speaker 2:yeah, but single ladies was when I was in high school. That was mad long ago.
Speaker 3:So you trying to tell me the nigga who writes single ladies, you don't think this nigga pin going crazy, no matter what he's doing first of all, why are you shaking your face? Because you disrespect the dream you, you, disrespecting the fish.
Speaker 2:You was shaking your face mad fast, like it doesn't even matter what you're saying during that. All I'm seeing is how fast you're shaking your face. You can't disrespect.
Speaker 3:You can't disrespect the fish nigga.
Speaker 2:You look like Joe. Why the fuck are you talking?
Speaker 8:about the 2024?.
Speaker 3:That's what she? Said but we talking about you, talking about dream. We not talking about, I'm just saying we not talking about Sean Garrett. We not talking about shit, even Neo Autumn. We not talking about none of this. We are talking about the dream. Just keep it 100 and understand that. Respect that man accordingly, please. But we still got one more nasty allegations to talk about.
Speaker 2:I kind of really quickly want to look up Sean Garrett's.
Speaker 3:Sean Garrett got a pen but it's just not the dreams pen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I still want to look it up.
Speaker 3:That's all I'm saying. You just got to put respect on dream. It's different.
Speaker 2:You do got to put respect on Dream. Nah, it's different. You do got to put respect on Dream. That pen is crazy, it is actually insane. So Sean Garrett, yeah, by Usher Ring, the Alarm Soldier Goodies. So Sean Garrett is a better example of like somebody who had an era on lock Upgrade you like this it god jesus christ.
Speaker 3:Now he's somebody who some crazy shit he did like messed up his check on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he really. He had it on lock, but he hasn't really had a hit since, like I was in high school, that's because he had some crazy allegations. That's why oh, I don't remember. He had a nasty me too, not me too, but I think he, I, I can be wrong allegedly let me look it up. It's alleged, but I he, I think he just say, just say the wild shit, and then just say allegedly behind it.
Speaker 2:We can do that allegedly, I think he he hit a woman or something okay but like I was, domestic violence homie domestic violence allegedly yeah, so I'm about to hold on to check, to make sure I don't want.
Speaker 3:I don't want to put that on. Okay, but as soon as I put D-O-M, it said domestic violence case.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. Nah as soon as a nigga who wrote for Beyonce ends up on Love Hip Hop. Something bad happened. You did something, yeah, but I don't you did that.
Speaker 3:I don't want to put that on him.
Speaker 2:It's not a legend.
Speaker 3:To make sure, like I said, I don't want to put that on him.
Speaker 2:Nah, that nigga was on Love Hip Hop.
Speaker 3:He did that shit. I don't want to put that on him because I'm not. I can't find 100% exactly what he did. I apologize if I said it was a domestic I don't know. But if it was, fuck you but you know. If you did it, but if not, my bad, I'm just I just know that, yeah, I don't see anything. I just know something happened. He did.
Speaker 3:Maybe he just started tweaking out crashing out doing drugs it was something that he did that took him out of favor with a lot of people sued by american express over six figure bill. That was in 2012 like I said, I don't know if it was some domestic shit, I just can't remember. I just think that it has something to do with like something that he did just took him really out of fair, I don't know.
Speaker 2:He crashed out on somebody, yeah or whatever, probably some weird that he got blackballed over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but.
Speaker 2:Weird Hollywood shit. What's next baby?
Speaker 3:Let me see here. You know what I thought. I do want to just mention this Band man, kevo. We talked about him the other day, you know, cool A couple weeks ago. Young he Cool, I feel bad for him, like that. But then up some cinnamons to synonyms to coon, so I'll call you more of that after you. After that happens, and niggas being so critical about whatever situation he was living in, for you then to get a whole tattoo of all of these white men. Bro, what is you doing? Like you was the. I understand you. You cut up and you got the surgery. So you obviously are captain of the goof troop, but yo, this shit was not swaggy at all. Nothing about that shit was cool. That shit was the lamest shit in the world.
Speaker 2:There's no other words for coon that is a special word for you specifically, sir.
Speaker 3:That shit doesn't make any sense to me. I'm trying to figure out where does— I used to have a whole leg sleeve full of fucking Just white men.
Speaker 2:Full of full of the descendants of slave masters.
Speaker 3:Whole bunch of sun dodgers, like what's going on with you, big dog?
Speaker 2:What does Dr Umar have to say about this? He needs to speak up, that's lash worthy. Dr Umar needs to strangle Like he needs to have permission to strangle you out of life with his bare hands no, that's lash worthy on instagram live.
Speaker 3:That's like 10 000 lashes at the very least bam and cavo.
Speaker 2:You are the lowest tier of black man that has ever existed, ever in life. You are generations the black man who told Masta about you was a snitch. You was a snitch, the slave that told Masta about the rest of the slaves trying to plan a rebellion. You were the nigga who was convinced to get into the Black Panther Party so that he could feed information to the FBI, the police, whatever. O'neal you are the nigga. Band man O'Neal. In this time. Who would snitch on niggas as soon as he gets locked up himself?
Speaker 3:You're I think he admitted that.
Speaker 2:And then, like you, wear this shit as like a badge of honor on your chest, like these niggas don't, it's on his leg on your whatever as a badge of honor. Like these niggas, don't like these white people don't see you as a common fucking nigga. That shit wouldn't even spit on you if you was on fire.
Speaker 3:For real, I'm gonna be honest, like I think anytime you get a portrait of somebody even if it's somebody that you know on your body like you're not thinking long term, you're not being really bright about that, because that shit is not going to look good it doesn't like, and then your body's going to change meaning.
Speaker 3:The picture is going to change like. It's just so goofy to get any kind of portraits on these people. It's like y'all are just the worst because y'all just so easy licks man Like you put these folks on your body for nothing.
Speaker 2:I typed in Bam Bam Kevo tattoos. He has a White Lives Matter tattoo.
Speaker 3:All right. So, yeah, we just going to have to just crash out on Buddy bro, like you really just lost all. Yeah, yeah, fuck you.
Speaker 5:Like you, really you are you a dumbass nigga? If that's the case, you are.
Speaker 2:If that's the case, you are like they. We need to just take you out. Niggas like you don't need to represent any faction, any type of black person. You don't need to represent any of us. Rather, whether you from the ghetto, whether you educated, whether you are conservative liberal, this nigga does not need to represent any of us in any fashion. We need to get him the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're bad for the community you really are. You're a terror and it needs to be stopped. Like for real, like I don't want to say anything, mean. So let's just move on, because it's going to get to that point.
Speaker 2:I want to say mean things. You a piece of shit, Like you're a dumb motherfucker.
Speaker 3:You're a dumb motherfucker.
Speaker 2:I was going to say some other things and then I hope you get pulled over by some white ass cops. And then you're like oh, look at my, look at my. And then they, because you're a fucking dumb bitch anyways, bleep that part out. That was kind of wild, that was insane, you might as well.
Speaker 3:Just call that nigga a bullet bag Like young. That's what y'all are psyched out young god damn, I really think.
Speaker 2:You know, we didn't even talk about.
Speaker 3:We can get our band man camera like we can get off this we didn't even talk about kanye. Shit, we gotta get back to that. Go ahead. That was supposed to stay in line with the, with the dream shit it did, but it just got so out of line. Yeah, I mean, we talked about dreams, so much, I'm just so passionate about black people not being coons.
Speaker 2:I am a Haitian woman. I am the complete opposite of a coon.
Speaker 3:Go ahead. What's next? What did Kanye do? We got to go back to Kanye real quick in the Nasty man Olympics, so he's been also.
Speaker 2:It is Bro. This shit was crazy. Let's pull up the actual like he's also got his charges coming up.
Speaker 3:No, I just remember what I read. I'm going to pull it up.
Speaker 3:There's nothing you can forget about these messages. So there's another lady who's out here accusing Kanye West of sexual harassment, and it's crazy because not too long ago I said on the show that Kanye was dope because he doesn't have any of these experiences where a lot of women are saying he's been violent to them, and this wasn't really a violent case in per se. Essentially, she'll get the text messages to be authentic, but I'm gonna just tell you niggas out there texting her wild boy shit, it's a white girl, you know. He out there want to talk about you know some, he won't talk about his dick. He tell her his dick is racist and he got to beat it.
Speaker 2:I really want to read this verbatim.
Speaker 3:I think there were some other innuendos about him liking white girls with black asses.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I still don't understand what that means. I think that's just the stupidest thing. Y'all niggas say it's a white ass, is a white ass on a white ass y'all niggas say it's a white ass, is a white ass on a white ass?
Speaker 2:uh, no, I think that's um, I think that him specifically seeking out white women who have, um the features that he likes it, uh, of black women, that's problematic. I um you said that that was something that I was focusing on. That felt like to you it was weird, but to me, as a black woman who, like, our beauty is desired but just not in the package that we deliver it in, like is hurtful on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:So that's why I was hung up on it, because I was like how you, how do you just say this, like you, you should be ashamed of it, but he's just like flagrantly saying that, yeah, I want a white woman that looks like a black woman because I don't want black women that look like black women and that's important for us to talk about, because that's a fucking problem like that's weird as shit.
Speaker 3:I mean yeah, I mean I can understand where you're coming from he's just.
Speaker 3:That's why I was hung up on it, you know what he's using this as a useful euphemism for he just likes that girls that are, have you know, bigger butts or more voluptuous, and to say that's a black girl thing is over sexualizing black women. So to even kind of associate those two is what I would say. I would disagree with you in that part, because now you're just ingratiating yourself in the over sexualization by by coining those being a black woman thing, because all it is is the over sexualized thing it's a physicality, a physical trait that is it is more prominent more prominent in black and brown, not not all brown.
Speaker 2:it's really only like afro cultures, because it's black women and and then it's like Brazilian women and like Dominican women and those are black women also. So it is just black women that have those shapes and shit like that.
Speaker 3:And like all of them are.
Speaker 2:Afro something. If you are shaped like that, you're Afro something naturally no, it's not.
Speaker 3:There's white women who are white women that are shaped like that.
Speaker 2:It happens, it does, but like you afro something, naturally. No, it's not. There's white women who are white women that are shaped like that. Yeah, it happens, it does, but like you don't see that, like a whole country like australia, you don't see white you don't see white marketing pushing that as the ideal look for white women.
Speaker 3:But those white women are out there. It's not. They're not like they're sitting here. That, oh, it's just a one. These are fucking unicorn, unicorns. These white women are out there and he's promoting that. Because you're right, as a black guy, you're coming up, you are taught to like ass and all that other shit like that. Then when you get money, you are starting to value white women. So, yeah, those things kind of get conflated into each other. So I understand what you're saying and that's why I'm not trying to disagree with you in that point.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying I thought you were trying to disagree with. No, I'm not saying OK.
Speaker 3:I'm not disagreeing. That point that you're making is. It's a. It's a true point to that and you can feel that way in regards to what he's saying. I'm just saying that it's not. What I'm saying is for you to hop on to that point of it. The body being a black woman thing is also agreeing with the over sexualization that you're also criticizing. It's like when we say the ignorant shit about black guys jump higher than white guys. It's not really the case I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's just a stereotype that we've generated because a lot of black guys are in dire positions and have to use their physicality to get better in sports and athletics.
Speaker 2:But it's not that I do still feel like that shape is generally more naturally uh, synonymous with black and brown people than it is with anybody else.
Speaker 3:I would argue that it's just more valued in a different way in our culture than it is in other cultures. Yeah, those women aren't necessarily always valued the same way, and that's why you always see them jumping over to the hip-hop realm, because that's where they are sought after. Like a yes Jules, it could be argued, yes, jules, around white men, she wouldn't be looked at as the elite woman that she's looked at amongst the black men.
Speaker 2:No, she's trash amongst, like the upper crust, white men. That's a whore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even before the whole all the hip-hop shit she was doing when she was first coming out. Like white niggas don't really like that kind of look on white girls and they don't value that and praise it the same way she would have got hit. But she may not have been somebody they would, you know, see at the wedding and all that shit. So that's what I mean by that. But Kanye did hold on, he did. He said he's suing her back for defamation, saying that what you're doing is crazy. I think in regards to I think not even with the Dream shit. I think Kanye may be in right with this one, because I just don't see him sending no message to no girl. He don't already have a pre-existing relationship like this with.
Speaker 2:I finally found the text texts. Okay, what'd he say? Um, they're broken up into this rolling stone article. But he says see, my problem is I be wanting to fuck, but then, after I fuck, I want a girl to tell me how hard they've been fucked while I'm fucking them, before adding then I want her to cheat on me wake it up he also said um, is my dick racist? I'm going, I'm going to stare at pictures of white women with black asses and beat the shit out of my racist dick talk about it um, she claimed that when speaking with Wes under the guise of discussing work-related matters, he would masturbate on the phone with her.
Speaker 2:So while they were talking about work, and shit, he would just be masturbating on the phone.
Speaker 3:You got to put it on mute. Kanye, you put it on mute, you can get it all. It's just you don't want the padding.
Speaker 2:In the background.
Speaker 3:And then you're probably breathing hard.
Speaker 2:Don't subject her to that, depending on which era of kanye that you were in.
Speaker 3:yeah, you were probably breathing hard, but let's be honest, the, the girl who was his director he's married to now. So I mean, let's be. What kind of relationship is he having with these people? Yeah, bianca, is is mrs west now kanye like for you to make me think Kanye did something you gotta bring. You gotta really bring evidence. And hey, I'm looking at white women with black asses to beat my racist dick is not gonna cut it for me.
Speaker 2:It's not like criminal.
Speaker 3:He's not the dream.
Speaker 2:But as a black woman myself, it's making me look at you weird.
Speaker 3:What the nigga saying slavery was a choice didn't start that I've been looking.
Speaker 2:I've been not fucking with kanye since like 2020. Let me let y'all know this. Generally, not, I don't fuck with the nigga. Um. This reminds me I just learned that, um, donald Glover did not produce most episodes of Atlanta, that his brother was the producer and the director behind most of the episodes and then a lot of the like. Weird episodes that are like are the ones that he produced, like the episode where the black woman got mad across the room at a black man being in an interracial relationship. That was one of the first episodes that he produced himself.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, the nigga was trying to be in Star Wars movies. I don't think that he had time to be like doing that kind of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but when you finally produce stuff that's what you spent your time making art about is black women being angry? I just wanted to say that real quick.
Speaker 3:Because Childish Gambino is black women being angry. I just wanted to say that real quick because childish gambino hates black women. Hey, that's what got us lit. I was watching the ray jay shannon sharp club shea shea interview and I found myself having like a relatability with ray jay that I don't know if it's a good thing or not like it's definitely not I might need to divorce you, like I know ray j has had his questionable actions and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:He pushed his wife into a pool that was staged he kind of he talked about that.
Speaker 3:He said that was kind of in in grounds of what they were trying to accomplish there okay so it wasn't like he was trying to abuse her to do that.
Speaker 3:He spoke along he spoke on a lot of shit, like he even talked about uh him. Actually. He said it's a while back, like 2013 when this happened 2013-14 he had apartments that I don't know if he either purchased from donald sterling or he was in business with donald sterling's with that he said he was gonna sell. Uh, unfortunately he couldn't really speak about it. He said that the statute limit, whatever, whatever was going on.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was statute of limitations, because it's not like illegal shit, it's more like the agreement of how long you can wait to talk about certain deals, and things like that were still in play. So he couldn't really kind of go break down to detail. But man, it sounded like it was something real interesting there Because it seemed like he really wanted to talk about why he got rid of those apartments. But no, the thing that I kind of Ray J is one of the most interesting people on the face of this planet it really was Like, the thing that I really related to him about was he talked about, like his relationship a lot with Brandy.
Speaker 3:It's obviously because this nigga, Shannon Sharp, kept asking everything about Brandy, Like it was just Brandy, this Brandy, that it was a Ray J interview about Brandy but he talked about. You know the fact that Because Shannon Sharp is the worst interviewer.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 3:we'll get into that in just a moment. I want to talk about this part, though, Because I really felt this kind of like what he was talking about. How, you know, he was really close with his sister growing up, and as they kind of grew older, they end up kind of growing apart because a lot of things that they value were different and the kind of thing, the way they wanted to have their success be known and their persona to be seen around. Everyone, like that kind of pushed them away from each other to the point that they're not as close as they used to be.
Speaker 2:Does he mean like around his, like love and hip hop, or like reality show era All his?
Speaker 3:choices you got him with the tape with Kim Kardashian. Okay To just how he operates with his business, the people who he associates with you know, suge Knight the Snoops, like all of those individuals who he's brought himself around, he's also brought himself with the image and she's kind of, you know, have her own image. And I could just feel that because I've gone through something similar like that.
Speaker 2:Ray J is interesting and Brandy can sing no. I mean, I'd take ray j over brandy any day at this point.
Speaker 3:no, I'm just, I'm saying you don't kind of, you don't really kind of get this because you don't have siblings. But what I'm just saying is like just to see how that connection with a sibling can change over time. It was just wild to kind of just see that, because I could just see a lot of that relationship that he was talking about in the relationships that I've had with siblings.
Speaker 3:So it's like I, I, it was like damn like it's just why you've um grown like not as close to your siblings as you get older oh yeah, I mean, especially like when we're younger, and it was like they kind of looked at me more as like a you know, they were like a parent kind of thing, not more so, just a bigger sister, his siblings looked at him as like they were parents, because they have way too big of age gaps. Yeah, it's not way, it's substantial, it's unusually large for siblings.
Speaker 2:They need to understand why you're saying that. Yeah, it's substantial, it's 15, 13 years different.
Speaker 3:But no, just like I said, I could feel that where that connection just dissipates, where it's like you've chosen for your life to go and look like this and I have chosen for my life to look like this and there gets to a point where we both can't coexist anymore fundamentally, like it just becomes that, where it's like our relationship can't exist the way that it did in the past because they bump heads. Fundamentally, you're an adult now. I'm an adult now.
Speaker 3:We have different morals, we have different understandings, yeah, different ways of raising our children this and that, just a bunch of stuff, yeah, so it's just a lot of stuff that kind of comes into play and I just felt that, because I've experienced something like that, I never thought about that?
Speaker 2:I haven't thought about that. I'm an only child. That's what I'm saying. You don't see it in that regard, I have myself to think about that's it. You've done such a great job with that I have oh my God, I think about myself on a regular basis, but no it was just crazy to see that and, like I said, it was just wild that I was just able to Someone some of the choices that he's made.
Speaker 2:I mean he's done some goofy shit no, he's goofy as fuck but I feel like he's going to 50 cent us eventually, like it's going to be like I don't think being stupid for a reason.
Speaker 3:I don't think that I said anything out of bounds. I just made jokes about the shit that some of the shit that he did.
Speaker 2:It was inbound which is make funnable.
Speaker 3:Yeah like he breeds that. That's something kind of like. What he's about is just kind of being that open market, kind of like how Alvin was with us when he watched our videos. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like he kind of he understands there's a dynamic that kind of has to go back and forth and to have that relationship. We know what you're making.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we know what's going on and just to say that a lot of the business things that he did I do feel like he was capping with the Raycon conversation because he's talking about. He sold all of his shares and he wanted to get into another business and everybody was going their separate ways.
Speaker 2:When he was on the Breakfast Club and he was talking about Raycon, he made it seem like Raycon just wanted to go a separate way. That's what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying Nobody sells all their shares and everything's good. You sell all your shares because it's some BS going on between y'all, definitely.
Speaker 2:He made it seem like Raycon just wanted to go a separate way and he had no choice in the matter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean the way he said it here was.
Speaker 2:Because he never was an owner of anything. He was just like.
Speaker 3:He had shares of the company?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had shares and he was like a figurehead but he wasn't like a majority shareholder or anything like that. He didn't have power.
Speaker 3:No, that was always kind of the thing, because his name was Raycon with it. I think they were just kind of incorporating that. And to me, what I kind of saw there was they got with somebody who, while they were trying to, you know, they were desperate trying to get their tech up, and they got with someone who was going to be able to fund them capital and also give them some type of legitimacy in that, in a field not even necessarily their field, but in a field where they could market at. And that's just kind of where it transpired to, because you should see the raycon stuff in everybody's uh youtube videos for a while, like the raycon clips were going crazy.
Speaker 2:kenny jd still regularly has raycon as her sponsor, even after ray J left. Shout out to you, you're my favorite YouTuber. Bitch, you can do that.
Speaker 3:So no, I'm saying like to kind of get into the criticisms into Shayna's interviewing style. The one thing I didn't like is he kept asking him about other people, like what was it like being cool with 50 Cent, what was it like being cool with Floyd Mayweather?
Speaker 2:Because Shayna Sharp has a very low IQ with uh floyd mayweather. Because shannon sharp has a very low iq and he cannot uh generate complex questions that will lead to interesting. He did conversations in his head other than what the fuck the cards have to say. So when, um, somebody says something and he naturally just has to ask, the next question is going to be basic as shit. Oh, how was that? I know.
Speaker 3:I will say the questions that he had because he even brought up the Donald Sterling stuff. The questions that he had were good questions, but it's just the ones that he could actually talk about were the oh, what is this being this person, being related with this person? He, like I said, he handled it gracefully, like even when he made jokes about the Kim Kardashian shit, he really came kind of like the terms and was like bro, like this the joint really watched this interview.
Speaker 2:It was good.
Speaker 3:He was, just like the, the I had to come with terms with.
Speaker 2:like my kids have to experience this at some point in life, and and as and, as a man, you never think about the fact that your kids are going to have to see that eventually. Yeah, your kids are going to have to see your rock hard dick on camera. They don't have to see it, but they probably will see it. Not your kids will see you penetrating somebody else on camera.
Speaker 3:Because that was like that. They even noted that was like the highest rated tape ever, yeah, and so, like they were able, to get all that pure. Just you know the the hype around it yeah, just just how everything that was going on, uh. But, like I said, shannon did when he was asking questions about Ray J they were good questions about Ray J. I just felt like he kept trying to ask about other people. I was like, bro, we talking to Ray J right now and Ray J is mad interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah but, to be fair and I kind of saw a little bit I kind of related to this too like where it's like you kind of his claim to fame kind of is being associated to everybody around him, like it wasn't like he was a crazy good actor, he wasn't a crazy good artist, like he was decent enough and everything.
Speaker 2:But it is the people around him, the people he was able to associate was kind of like his claim to fame. I never said this whole time. Was I saying that Ray J is talented? No, I was saying that Ray J is interesting. Yeah, and I'm saying he's like he's able to get around people that are making movers and shakers. He says things that are funny, Like he's just. When you think about Ray J as a whole person, it's like an enigma, it's just like how did this happen?
Speaker 2:How does he keep getting into these spaces with these people? What the fuck does Ray J have on these people? What type of juice does he have people? What type of juice does he have? What type of magic does he have? What is going on with ray j?
Speaker 3:one of the other takeaways that I kind of got from this was I don't think anyone else got this, but I feel like kanye west stole ray j sauce a little bit like a lot of the conversation he has the way he tries to have the conversation with things. It's very similar to what I was seeing ray jay do ray jay left his sauce and kim kanye sucked it out that's crazy. Uh, that's a wild way to think about that, though that's nuts, but it just felt like, yeah, I'm fucking potting.
Speaker 3:I don't know about you, you're getting your shit off you're getting your shit off, but I just noticed like a lot of the mannerisms were the same, a lot of the shit that like he was doing it, like the way that he was having conversation, was similar to how I've seen kanye act, and it just would make perfect sense that if I'm somebody like kanye who I don't really have the people around me that want me to win at this time especially when he first got in the game I could see ray jay when ray jay was having his success, being somebody to be like okay, I, I can copy that, because ray jay is able to get into all these rooms that I want to get into, and so he just kind of copied that that persona a little bit the only thing is kanye is like way more talented than ray jay.
Speaker 2:It's like musical oh, for sure leaps and bounds, but I just think he just saw that Ray J needs a remix. I hit it first and be like I did it, I did it, I did it, I did it, I did it, I did it first.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying, I just think, as a personality that Kanye gives out. I think he kind of cloned himself after Ray J. That's what it just kind of feels like.
Speaker 2:With like how he is Just his mannerisms, the conversation that he has.
Speaker 3:Like it just all felt like when I saw Ray J giving up there and that felt more like Ray J than when I've seen Kanye do it. So I've seen no, I feel you, I 100% agree on that. I just want to put this on there. So Ice-T was hating on my nigga, lenny Kravitz, because he's like a nine year celibacy and it's like yo, ice-t, you nasty freak nigga, you freaky ass nigga, like just because you got the balloon.
Speaker 2:Freaky ass, nigga.
Speaker 3:he is 69, god Just because you got your wife full of balloons and you out here still like being a nasty ass pimp persona on your when you moonlight as a fucking actor like bro. You don't got to put that shit on a nigga that's just trying to live a clean life. Yo don't do that to lenny cravers. That's my man, not too much on lenny like and honestly I'm gonna be honest with a lot of niggas. Celibacy might be the best thing for y'all, because the year that I did when I was celibate, that shit was. That shit got me focused. That got me to know what what I wanted.
Speaker 3:He found his wife period, that too. But it just got me focused to be like what I actually wanted and what I would deal with. Anymore, like for real, like I think it's necessary Now. It doesn't work for all y'all, niggas, because some of y'all are just sleeping with you know nothing, because y'all can't get anything. So being celibate isn't a choice. It a choice, it's just a byproduct of existing for you, but the niggas that do get it.
Speaker 2:Uh, your celibacy is not a bad thing. So, um, we're talking about ice tea and lenny kravitz.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he just was talking shit about lenny. I just thought that was lame, especially when you like the nasty, freak persona and then you do the pimp shit and like that's just lame, when you just have a negative uh aura around yourself, when, especially being a black man, and you just have a negative uh aura around yourself when, especially being a black man, and you just out here doing the gangsta pimp shit and then you start calling another nigga corny because and weird, because he's like no, I ain't trying to fuck nothing, even though I look way better than you and I'm probably older than you ice t.
Speaker 2:You are the corny weird nigga. Like if you was out here and lenny kravisitz was out here, Lenny Kravitz will be swimming in pussy and you would be getting.
Speaker 3:Lenny is clearing a lot of niggas out of the club.
Speaker 2:Lenny is clearing a lot of niggas.
Speaker 3:That's my Like. I fuck with Lenny Kravitz and then you know, Are we second hour of the show Lenny Kravitz Like Lenny Kravitz, Kravitz like Lenny Kravitz, kravitz Kravitz.
Speaker 2:Kravitz, kravitz, there you go. That's not a Jewish man. Yeah, there he is.
Speaker 3:Kravitz, that was hey, no homo, that was my man. Crush was Lenny really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you fit in the same box as him a little bit.
Speaker 3:I kinda like I'm not even gonna lie like again this second hour so I ain't tripping like I kind of model what I kind of want to look like in the future off of Lenny.
Speaker 2:I would not mind you looking like.
Speaker 4:Lenny Travis in your 60s. I need to get in the gym a little bit more.
Speaker 2:I wasn't going to say that.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, but no, I, that's my man, I I fuck with Lenny Like that's my nigga.
Speaker 2:That is a good looking older black man. So, he got. The shit is tight.
Speaker 3:That nigga got it right. He do. He definitely do so again, Just like. Method man Yo Alright yo, when we at young Like no, I love no, where we I would be a great comedian I just tied it back in Like fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:Dave Chappelle would be proud.
Speaker 3:Nah, dog, Fuck out of here. He'd be telling you why are you doing that? I'm a star. Why are you doing that? That's not necessary.
Speaker 2:That was great.
Speaker 3:All right, so we're not going to do the other one.
Speaker 2:We're going to name this. I can't wait where we just get to name our episodes.
Speaker 3:You know, you can just put that on the titles that you make. Right, Nobody's stopping you from doing that yeah, but. That doesn't affect the algorithm. You can put a title of the episode on the. What the thumbnail?
Speaker 2:Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, we gonna name this episode.
Speaker 3:Just wait.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna name this episode. I'm gonna name this episode Sumbar Method man being fine as fuck you would you would look. You would fit into Method Man's prototype box if you didn't have locks.
Speaker 3:I don't think so. He's a lot taller than me too, you're tall, but he's like 6'3 you tall.
Speaker 2:He's like 2 inches taller than you.
Speaker 3:That looks different it look a lot taller than me too, Is he? You're tall.
Speaker 2:But he's like 6'3". You're tall. He's like two inches taller than you.
Speaker 3:That looks different. It looks a lot different, but no, this is what I want to finish up off by. So there was a tweet that was going on where this girl was saying she was dating this guy for a year. He asked to meet her parents, which I think that's already a red flag You're taking a year to meet your parents.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you meet my mom after a month. She's. Haitian.
Speaker 3:He asked to meet her parents. You're meeting her immediately. So he asked to meet her parents. He went there, he kind of saw what was going on. He saw that they were living in basically poverty and he ended the relationship. Yeah, as you should, because he felt like, if I get involved with you, you don't have to pull this whole family out of poverty, yeah.
Speaker 8:I'm going to have to be responsible for doing that? No, so.
Speaker 3:I saw a lot of people who were upset by that, Like I seen this one woman who said that's because y'all are poor. No, it was this one woman who said to leave someone for poverty is the weakest shit ever, or whatever. No, it's not. I was going to say this.
Speaker 2:Women do that to Like. Y'all leave niggas for nothing all the time, like it's okay. If a man sees you and generations of your bloodline have been in poverty, why would he then want to take on that responsibility of undoing the bad luck or curse that was put on your entire fucking bloodline bitch? You found you a broke nigga, and y'all hustled together Like I 100% believe that y'all need to be with people of your own ilk like people were trying to say that he didn't really love her he didn't.
Speaker 3:He was able to leave that yeah, that's not true period you can love yourself more and still love that person and understand that you know what this relationship doesn't do doesn't serve me yeah because I think that's the thing people keep forgetting.
Speaker 2:Leave that broke ass bitch and leave that broke ass nigga, like if they can do nothing to even try to get themselves to the next level.
Speaker 3:But that's not what was going on with this situation? He was looking at it in a long term situation where it's like if your dad gets sick and he needs somebody to pay his medical bill you're gonna look to me.
Speaker 2:Family is yeah.
Speaker 3:You're gonna look to me so that's where he was looking at. Like I knew a dude and I've known a lot of guys who, like I knew a guy- that's a smart man, that's a and that's also a family oriented man.
Speaker 3:but what I'm saying is I seen a guy before that I knew he was a friend of mine and he stopped talking to girls if they brother was like special needs or something like that, like he's seen something in your family that was a direct one of one, like this came from the same blood you came from. That is ableist. I'm just telling you the truth. This is how niggas are thinking. Like if your brother was a special helper was saying a special helper, he's not going to date you anymore. Yeah, because you have to think about okay, that's in your gene pool do.
Speaker 2:I want that directly, like if that is your sibling, then that is something, no matter how fucked up, it seems like it is a completely different life raising a child with disabilities, so it's fair I don't think that's that fucked up I've, and when I'm in my dating prospects, I've had that.
Speaker 3:Where that was one of the things were like it was. If it was, I was talking to maybe two girls, and what made one girl more appealing than the other one was her dad owned a company, so I I would prefer to select her because she had other things besides just being a girl that was going to bring value to me.
Speaker 2:One of the things that was important to me when I was picking my husband not my parents aren't together, but it was. It was important that, like my husband has parents who are together, who have been here for longer than my parents have, like it wasn't like a, a requirement, it was kind of more like icing on the cake, like I I would have rathered a little like it was. It was okay if my, my husband was an immigrant also, but like it would have been more difficult for our kids. If both of us are trying to figure it out I'm trying to figure it out, my parents are trying to figure it out At least my kid is going to have one side of the family who has had it figured out for generations.
Speaker 3:No, and I was similar too, but you have a very high reverence of your dad. So that kind of like superseded a lot of that where it was like okay, just because they're not together doesn't mean like you don't have a bad relationship with your dad.
Speaker 2:Oh no, my father is an amazing dad. He is also one of those people who will give his last to make sure that the people in his community um live the way that they're supposed to. He's a man of the people. 100. He's a great father and he's a man of the people so yeah, that was my man.
Speaker 3:So all right, uh, dude, should I tell the people about how ice girlfriend uh blocked me?
Speaker 2:yeah, but we had candace do you want?
Speaker 3:I just I was like we could skip that, because do you want to get into that? The only reason I said that was because the title of the shade and then you know it's gonna have a but I came up with an alternative.
Speaker 2:Okay, we thought that maybe it might do well all right so I think that'll do better than you talking about ice. Nobody gives a fuck about ice.
Speaker 3:I just thought it was funny. Nobody gives a fuck about ice. I just thought it was funny that his girlfriend blocked me Ice or ish.
Speaker 2:Both of them are generally just irrelevant.
Speaker 3:His girlfriend blocked me though.
Speaker 2:I thought it was funny. No, okay, let's talk about.
Speaker 3:Candace Owens wants to ban corn from all platforms.
Speaker 2:Candace Owens wants to completely remove adult films. She wants you to stop being able to fap.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just don't get like. These conservatives always tell us they're about freedom of speech, making your own choices, self-determination, all that good jazz, but then they want to ban everything.
Speaker 2:I want the freedom to flick my bean. That's what I want, Candace.
Speaker 3:I just don't understand why they feel like the need to control people to do these. If you don't want people to watch this, then why don't you give them more alternatives instead of your 200 patreon like why don't you make that more affordable so they can watch that instead of watching, you know, adult films, but like that's just not going to stop.
Speaker 2:Like I don't think people understand the history of adult entertainment I think that this is just like a sensationalized thing, because Candace Owens does not have enough power than the adult film industry does. I don't think y'all know how the adult film industry and tech go hand in hand.
Speaker 3:They've been streaming before Kasha not hand in hand.
Speaker 2:they've been streaming before kai's, not vr streaming. All of the things that we have revolutionized is because a freaky ass nigga in his basement wanted something. So then the, the adult, adult industry came up with that technology, and then it fucking trickled down. That is the only time that the trickle down theory has ever worked in the united states of america ever is with.
Speaker 3:Okay, the corn industry is with the adult film industry.
Speaker 2:Yes, like the adult film industry brings in a lot of revenue, there are um definitely more regulations that need to be put in place with the adult film industry. When it comes to, like, sexual assaults being uploaded and people benefiting off of that and everything. There is like a whole just disgusting underbelly that does need to like be weeded out and sorted through, and rules need to be made there. I don't think the right idea is to ban it, because when you ban things, like ugly, like weeds start popping out right, so the things need to be regulated, they need to be legal, and then they just need to be regularly um monitored. That's it, because if you ban things, then that's that. That just means that people are gonna have to go through um more dramatic lengths to get it to the people that want it, and then it's, it gets less and then worse shit starts happening. If porn isn't, if adult films are not legal, then I feel like, ah, it might snowball out of control. It needs to be legal and it needs to be regulated.
Speaker 3:And no, you also got to. Just, women have the right to make bad mistakes and make bad decisions and make choices on their own. Like, at the end of the day, they aren't our children even though I I've made my statements that I feel like they are but like, at some point you have to be able to make your own choices, like, and you have to live with your consequences. And if this is the life that you want to live, so be it. Like, I'm not gonna hate you for it.
Speaker 3:I might consume some of your content if it's good, but at the end of the day, like, we can't sit here and live in a world and say you can't do x, y and z and then say we're trying to live in a world of freedom because that, just that don't even make sense at all. Freedom is allowing people to give them the choice, and it's your job, as you weak-ass conservatives really should be doing is making the real choice of making, trying to make the world better. So people don't make that choice, yeah, but y'all don't want to do that.
Speaker 2:Y'all want to sit there on your high horses, judge everyone, be afraid of black pilots we know that fucking stupid, that y'all just want yourselves to get richer like nobody nobody in america in the government actually cares about the greater like uh well-being of the american public. If any of the politicians get actually gave a fuck about the general well-being of the american public, then we would be in a completely different space. Everyone has their own specific niche um groups that they are trying to big up, they're trying to elevate, they're trying to elevate up, they're trying to elevate, they're trying to elevate their own morals, their own everything. So it's completely different.
Speaker 3:Hey man, I'm not going to sit here and tell y'all we need to stop putting out the nasty flicks man. The history of this stuff is rampant in our country. We've been making it since we've been able to record. We've been recording sex.
Speaker 2:And then I feel like if that's not legal, then you're just going to have random production houses that are just illegal, forcing these girls to do these things, and then they're going gonna be making even more money because they're gonna be charging people even more to gain access to these things. I don't know, it's just. There are other things that you need to be focusing your energy on. Candace, that isn't this. You're doing this as like um rage baiting towards, like the liberals or conservatives, whatever. You're trying to get a reaction out of people by targeting something that is a regular American pastime, which is adult films. Just get off your high horse. Get the fuck off the internet, bitch. Nobody want to hear you talk anymore. I've been trying to really be like. We don't want to listen to you spout, spute, your coon bullshit anymore. Somebody needs to talk, period. You're not helping anybody. You're not helping black people, white people don't give a fuck about you, bitch. They'll shoot you down in the street themselves. You dumb bitch.
Speaker 3:Get the fuck shut the fuck up. She don't believe you. Though you didn't see how many white people was at her wedding.
Speaker 2:She don't believe you those are people you invited. Those are white people you knew personally she, they all the same to her.
Speaker 3:You're not. You're not gonna get Candace on the shit that you're trying to get her on yo. She gonna believe them whites gonna come through her, even though they did the shit to her in high school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they not, they not she not falling for it. That's never gonna, that's never how she going out.
Speaker 3:You wanna keep going or you wanna. That's the last thing right, it can be.
Speaker 2:Was there anything?
Speaker 3:else you want to talk about Ice. You know girlfriend blocking me.
Speaker 2:You can talk about that.
Speaker 3:No, she just was out there shitting on Ice talking about. You know, if I wanted to be with a nigga with money, I wouldn't be here. And I just said, damn you shitting on Ice. And then she blocked me.
Speaker 2:That's exactly because I feel like she was probably a couple of glasses of wine into this was like three o'clock in the afternoon nigga, that'd be me a couple of glasses of wine into the day, depending on if I'm off or not, if you know. But whatever, but um, I could see me accidentally saying it like nigga if. I wanted somebody with money. I would have went after a nigga with money. Why do y'all think that I want that I'm a gold digger when I'm not with a nigga with money? That was her point.
Speaker 3:That's what she said. I don't never address it, but y'all need to retire this dumbass narrative that I'm only with my man for money. There are very rich niggas in my DMs that try to throw money my way and it's been that way for a very long time. So if money was the motive, I would have been chose up. Y'all look at me and think I'm a certain type of woman, but truth is to, y'all don't know either one of us, and if you did, y'all would know how compatible we are. We are damn near the same person. We like all the same shit. Y'all date people y'all really don't like, because y'all be focused on the superficial shit. But y'all and y'all have but, which is why y'all have y'all failed relationships. Call my nigga broke.
Speaker 2:This is ice girlfriend, right? Yeah, she called me she called that nigga broke.
Speaker 2:The only way I remember Ice and Ish is Ice should be the light-skinned nigga, but he's not. It doesn't even make sense. Nah, it makes, because if you see a light-skinned nigga and a dark-skinned nigga and you say one of their names is Ice, in my New York head the light-skinned nigga name is Ice because he light-skinned Because of Ishmael. It has nothing to do with Ish. Ice, light, Cold, white, Right, that's just where my brain so I had to literally be like what I think makes sense doesn't make sense. The only reason I remember who Ice and Ish are is because the nigga who I think should be Ice isn't Ice and whoever the fuck else is Ish.
Speaker 3:You love going into that. That's like the third time you did this on the show. Have I?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my God, you love talking about your conund's. Like the third time you did this on the show yes, oh my God.
Speaker 3:You love talking about your conundrum with their names.
Speaker 2:The nigga. I don't like their names and they're each one syllable. Speak to this I deserve to be blocked.
Speaker 3:That's what you need to talk about. What did you say Do I deserve to be blocked? What did you say in reply? I said damn, you shitted on my nigga, ish. That's like a girl saying, uh, you not the prettiest, but I love her. I mean, it's like a dude saying you got my girl not the prettiest, but I love her. You, you ate her up. That's what I just felt like it was the same.
Speaker 2:That's how she blocked you, because you ate her up like why would you do that? I just felt like that was the truth, she was like uh you didn't have to shit on my nigga like that like anytime a stranger eat me up on the internet most like 50 my reaction is either gonna be if I don't think I can eat you up back the same, I'm just gonna block you I see, but I always like you won that.
Speaker 3:I like getting blocked when I didn't definitely won that yeah, when I, when I don't use profanity, I like to get blocked. Yeah, because that's like okay, I got you you got that.
Speaker 2:You, that made perfect sense. Yeah, you should, you should all right, you hey let me, let me read that bitch up, babe.
Speaker 3:Oh, salute hey though, before we wrap up the show, I want you to hear this okay, so you know, the mexico just had their first female president, right? I did not know that. So she's part jewish.
Speaker 2:I think that's just something interesting to note I'm not gonna say anything about that because I don't want us to get. But check this out.
Speaker 3:But check this out. So there's an article in Yahoo News said that she was elected in the country's first female president after a bloody election campaign that saw 37 candidates assassinated.
Speaker 2:So this was the girl after you get elected after 37. No, no, no, no. Peep this, peep. This though.
Speaker 3:So After 37 candidates, no, no, no, Peep this, peep this, though, so you know when the tweet happens and they do the community notes. So they did the community notes here and they say even though 37 candidates were in fact assassinated, none of them were presidential candidates.
Speaker 2:Instead, they were elected senators, mayor, mayority counselors and other political positions, just the whole government, yeah, basically everyone else the entire government was assassinated and just all different levels were just attacked. The entire government was refreshed. That doesn't make me feel any better. That makes it feel like it was more calculated than it was if just one, like they were just trying to get one person like, if 37 office right, if 37 people got killed, what do you think she's going to do?
Speaker 3:you don't think she's following orders, like there's a reason why she survived. It ain't because she's a swell gal that's crazy hey, hey, man watch the mic Shawty.
Speaker 2:That was the first time that happened and we're almost done. Yeah, we're done now. I just thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3:Give me a fucking break, Frederick. Why don't you just tighten up? How about that fair?
Speaker 2:I can't tighten up after this many drinks.
Speaker 3:All right, well, let's just wrap it up here, then.
Speaker 2:Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, the only thing you should be exploiting this corporation. Thank you for listening to talk fnf tv. Make sure you do what like, follow, subscribe on all of the social media platforms it's going to be at talkfnftv on twitter, facebook, instagram, tiktok, youtube all of the things. We appreciate you guys very much for listening, liking all of that.
Speaker 3:Bye, hey, fat Boy and Queens, I hope they do something crazy to you in jail. Fuck you. I hope that nigga touch a little booty hole, you brown motherfucker Like that Tuh.