Ever had a kitchen mishap that left you laughing through the pain? We kick off this episode with a hilariously painful story about a gas stove burn and the chaos that ensues, setting the stage for a profound discussion on the emotional toll of work-life balance. From the rollercoaster of domestic disasters to the nuanced pressures of our daily grind, we reflect on the shared human experience with a mix of humor and empathy.
Switching gears, our musical critique takes center stage as we dissect recent performances, notably the Ken and Friends Juneteenth concert and Kendrick Lamar's gripping set. We break down the highs and lows, from standout moments to technical hiccups, and offer candid insights into the artistry and audience reactions. Whether you're a music aficionado or just curious about the latest concert buzz, our thoughtful analysis brings the electrifying live experience to your ears.
But it's not all fun and music; we also tackle hard-hitting topics like the ethics of journalism and the complexities of race and identity in interviews. From scandalous tales involving professional athletes to the murky waters of education marketing scams, our episode is packed with thought-provoking conversations. We then shift to lighter yet equally engaging subjects, such as ranking internet comedians and the humorous, albeit controversial, list of celebrity crackheads. Join us for a blend of humor, critical analysis, and real-life stories that explore life's chaotic brilliance and the importance of authenticity.
Ever had a kitchen mishap that left you laughing through the pain? We kick off this episode with a hilariously painful story about a gas stove burn and the chaos that ensues, setting the stage for a profound discussion on the emotional toll of work-life balance. From the rollercoaster of domestic disasters to the nuanced pressures of our daily grind, we reflect on the shared human experience with a mix of humor and empathy.
Switching gears, our musical critique takes center stage as we dissect recent performances, notably the Ken and Friends Juneteenth concert and Kendrick Lamar's gripping set. We break down the highs and lows, from standout moments to technical hiccups, and offer candid insights into the artistry and audience reactions. Whether you're a music aficionado or just curious about the latest concert buzz, our thoughtful analysis brings the electrifying live experience to your ears.
But it's not all fun and music; we also tackle hard-hitting topics like the ethics of journalism and the complexities of race and identity in interviews. From scandalous tales involving professional athletes to the murky waters of education marketing scams, our episode is packed with thought-provoking conversations. We then shift to lighter yet equally engaging subjects, such as ranking internet comedians and the humorous, albeit controversial, list of celebrity crackheads. Join us for a blend of humor, critical analysis, and real-life stories that explore life's chaotic brilliance and the importance of authenticity.
What euphoria. He said we don't want to hear you say no more. He let the crowd say it. He didn't say it, yeah.
Speaker 2:He let the crowd of all mostly Caucasian people say it Is this, your black messiah, wifing up a mixed queen. Listen, just saying Get vanilla. You know, help him with his self-esteem, get vanilla cream Every time you quote Drake.
Speaker 1:I get drier and drier.
Speaker 2:On some Bobby shit, trying to know what Whitney needs.
Speaker 1:Why you bringing up little white girls. That's crazy. The amount of time you get all of the information is in. It's fine, diddy.
Speaker 2:Nut, why are you still on this?
Speaker 1:I just want to know, Baby guess what.
Speaker 2:That nigga's just a spaz. She's married.
Speaker 1:That's how they start, though. This is a white woman and the disabled man is a black man.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is all making plenty of fucking sense to me.
Speaker 1:He had the hammer. He had that disabled hammer.
Speaker 2:He was basically bringing down the wood. That's the only thing. It could have been that shit curved left.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's the only thing it could have been. It couldn't be anything else.
Speaker 4:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What?
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Speaker 2:that's it we're back for another week, but I just, I just been feeling the effects of just being, you know, the normal guy I am a working man it's awful. It's awful because my, my woman here, has to work and oh my god, I hate it she's been working five days in a row. When she does that, she gets a little rattled I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1:I don't like working five days I don't know, like, if you're working nine to five, then I guess, but like, my schedule is not that and they're longer hours, so working five days in a row is not fun no, it rattles her, doesn't get her in the best of you know feelings and it clouds her thought process.
Speaker 2:Really, honestly, like just tell me what happened today.
Speaker 1:I, I made my tea as usual in the morning and then, like, I'm wiping down the counters and stuff and there's some grease on the stove, so I'm wiping down the stove and then I forget which, which I that I boiled the the water on, and then you know the little metal thing that goes, cause it's a, it's a gas stove. So the little metal thing that goes above the fire. I pick it up with my bare hands. I have burns on three of my fingers and my palm. I screamed out for help.
Speaker 1:My husband came running and I thought she overheard and cut herself or did something crazy it was just hurting so bad like I've burnt myself cooking before, but it's like a couple seconds of pain and it went away, but this was like a couple hours of pain like we even had to get a little cold. Uh, little cold bowl, yeah, to get you some ice let me put some ice in a bowl and some water.
Speaker 2:I dip my hand in it she had to sit that thing in there for a minute too because, yeah, my hand was just like hot like I can imagine it was throbbing yeah, and it's.
Speaker 1:It's burnt like white on one of my fingers, so that's a third degree burn. I did a google on that. So if that doesn't heal within like two, three weeks, which it would normally I need to go to the the doctor I can only blame myself, man.
Speaker 2:If I was, was better I wasn't thinking correctly if I was a better man, this wouldn't have happened I was delirious after days of work that's the only truth here.
Speaker 1:So I gotta step it up because I can't have you having to work five days in a row and I had to get up early for a meeting like a call before I went in, so it was just like why?
Speaker 2:they had her all out of her loop, all out of her element yeah, I should have been asleep at that time no, like I said, that's my fault, I got to take that one, got to do better. All right, let's get to some music.
Speaker 4:Let's go Wheezy out of here, wheezy out of here, wheezy out of here. Wheezy out of here. Wheezy out of here.
Speaker 6:Wheezy out of here. Shoot, that's a hard eight. Better stack I straight make. I got big bread. Watch me bake a large cake. Shoot, that's a third weight. Caught him on the interstate. We, some rich Vikings, still fuck hoes on minimum. Okay, then wake it up. Rich nigga, my homie, get racks on pennies. I still eat cup noodles at the gas station. Sit on top of the shivvies. You need a big freak that'll chew me off the bones. I'm like American Deadly. Let the seat back. We can fuck in the car right now. No panic, she ready, I done ready. This season. Viking smoking this blood to the fire. Viking walk, I won't ever drop Psychic bitch. I'm myself at the top Right here, whether you like it or not. My shooter, a star. He gon' rock out for my band, passing like gas on the dice. Got a hot hand. Outro Music bread. Watch me bake a large cake. Shoot, it's a thorn weight. Oh, wow, it's me. No, summer, we grab a restaurant.
Speaker 7:We be fly ass niggas. She really fast. She no. Summer I got an A in anatomy. I got a fuck nigga allergy. I never fuck with you, ashley. I get my pants from the Japanese. I'm in a truck like a falcon wing, can never drink, even Halloween. I take a bad bitch to Jollibee. She need free For you. For me she do it so slappily Filling up on the market street. I'm a health nut. Get the broccoli Told my old bitch. Don't talk to me. Outro Music. Don't start shaking me. She might reach Gotta. Grab it for her. For no reason at all. She got your knees, she asking me about where I be, where I'm from. I'm high on your knees. I got you right now. She got your knees. I got you right now. I got you right now. I got you right now. I got you right now. I got you right now I got you right now.
Speaker 1:I got you right now. We got another one. This beat sounds like I made it. That's horrible.
Speaker 2:I like it now, I think, when he says that I like the thing he's talking about, rory. I didn't know he dropped this. I don't know if you to the top again. We go hard again, hard again. You got no confidence like me. Really wanna run around and chase me. Little white boy got some soul. He really, he know how to put a bop together, yeah no, he got it.
Speaker 5:He got it figured out. Really wanna run around and chase me.
Speaker 1:You see what Funk Flex said about him. Nah, what Funk Flex said about him Nah what. Funk Flex said that Million Dollar Baby was trash and if you? Like that song, then you're trash too and you have a terrible taste in music.
Speaker 2:Nah, you know he's a hater though he is.
Speaker 1:I know Funk Flex has been a thing for a long time, but we've also been annoyed with him for a long time too.
Speaker 2:It's a give and take.
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Speaker 2:All right. Well, let's let the people know what they listen to. You're listening to Talk FNF TV with your host, rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and beautiful co-host, miss reality. Hello, hi guys. So you don't miss the hand claps like you don't miss that. That wasn't a staple for you anymore. I mean, you didn't even ask for it, like it's just yeah, I'm okay without it you just abandoned everything that we just tried to create and cherish, like jesus.
Speaker 2:I think that's a little dramatic I like to already put it that way, though.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's get into this man, because we got a lot to talk about this week oh my god, yes, I came home today and kendrick's um well, what, what can the pop out ken and friends concert was on the tv. I sat down in my uniform, in full work clothes, immediately.
Speaker 2:We gotta really describe this more as the let's exploit Juneteenth day. We'll get into this as we discuss this further.
Speaker 1:I guess, Juneteenth used to be like all celebration everywhere. Black people used to have festivals. There used to be Juneteenth pageants. There used to be Juneteenth concerts. There used to be Juneteenth blockants. There used to be Juneteenth concerts. There used to be Juneteenth block parties. It used to be like events and a bunch of stuff going on all over the place, and then they taught us to hate ourselves. We need to get back to that. So we need to have Juneteenth concerts, Juneteenth events, all that stuff safely.
Speaker 2:No, we need to, you're right, so we get into this. So you didn't see the beginning of it, so I seen the first part. So I'm gonna give you all this a little bit of review and also save you all some time. Dj head, you don't have to watch anything. He did Like, basically, that first set of people was just a LA talent show. Yeah, that's pretty much what it was Like. There's a group of guys called blue blucks, bland. Oh, and I didn't know they exist.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know that was a thing oh yeah, the song they performed was walking in, so it was a whole bunch of like early west coast niggas, like guys that I didn't even know a lot of gang affiliations.
Speaker 2:The only person I recognize out of all these people is west side boogie yeah, a lot of people were giving it up for him when we was talking about it, because we had a little live space going on at the same time of it. But no, we was talking about Boogie. A lot of people knew who he was. I wasn't too familiar. But again, let's just kind of step right here with where the West Coast sound is, because these are the guys that are on the ground floor with it. We can just say because, they're the early opening acts.
Speaker 2:The west coast is in a bad place. Like this.
Speaker 1:Shit is not good I wish I was able to watch it before we did the show so I could give y'all my valid opinion on it. Because I didn't watch it so I have no idea.
Speaker 2:No it was just not good and like I want to kind of not all blame it on them, because kendra, you and dave free, who executive produced this, y'all are thieves. Y'all had the the worst audio setup for these gentlemen. Like this, like if you're there and all you, you can experience it a different way. But when you're on a stream the way they had it set up you're like listening through the cameras. So it's not like it's a direct line from their audio to what you're listening to. It's just you're from their audio to what you're listening to. It's just you're listening to the environment. So you hear the sound bouncing off of everything. You hear just fainting little hearing. It was just awful. Then you could tell nobody could hear themselves in the headset, like everything was just off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I came in at the tail end of Tyler the creator's set. He came in at the tail end of Tyler the creator's set and then Roddy Ricch was the next person to perform, and he definitely was Well before then let's give it up for Tyler, Because Tyler is when the actual concert started. Tyler is a performer, so every time he gets on the stage everyone's going to have a good time, because he's not just going to get up there and walk around.
Speaker 2:Tyler has never been Okay, hold on, I lied Before we get there. Steve Lacey did get that shit jumping. Well, steve Lacey is an R&B artist, yeah, but when he played his hit them, white folks started dancing.
Speaker 1:I wish I knew.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, you would have thought it was I wish. I knew you wanted me, you would have thought this was a Disney Frozen movie the way they was acting, because we got to talk about that too, I would have been One of the themes. One of the themes that we're going to be talking about just throughout the whole conversation is going to be the crowd, because the crowd was heavily a Caucasian and looked like Latino based.
Speaker 1:I saw a lot of discourse about that on Twitter and I saw people saying that Kendrick should have made the tickets only available to black people and I was like how would Kendrick have done that?
Speaker 2:no, he needed to do like the dude off of the vampire show you watch. Just put the colors. Only sign up for colors only, no whites allowed but no, it's just very apparent, especially when you're kind of watching it and they you also see. This looks like they did a a concerted effort to make sure you saw all 12 black people that were there.
Speaker 1:It wasn't just 12 black people.
Speaker 2:I was looking at the crowd.
Speaker 1:It was like it was a good mix of black and white and Latino people.
Speaker 2:It's California, it was white.
Speaker 1:It looked like California.
Speaker 2:It looked like the valley, it looked like Bel Air. It looked like I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness it was. It was all of the suburbs. San diego looked like they came out. Like that's exactly what the crowd looked like when they did the wide shot because, like I said, everybody really wasn't feeling in until later on in the show. But when you do a wide shot you see that this is a crowd for a particular group of people who could afford this. Like it's not for compton, this was not. It's not bringing no outreach to Compton, but no, steve Lacey did his thing when he got up there. Uh trap, uh, taylor the creator, phenomenal yeah, I'm talking about my favorite artist.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about. He had the guys in my space acting like Gerard Carmichael. Yeah, they was acting nuts when he got on stage.
Speaker 1:I I don't know if, like a lot of people, have been exposed to Tyler and his level of artistry for that long, but like he is amazing and he's not been your typical rapper his entire career, Like his concerts, have always been him jumping around, him jumping in stages, him jumping off stages, mosh pits, like all of that, he's amazing.
Speaker 2:And again they were in the forum. So this is the place where kareem ardu jabbar was doing hook shots and winning championships. This is a very small kind of encased environment like it really looks like a basketball court that they just had people surrounding it yeah old school gym so there wasn't much that you could do elevated. There was very limited, uh, in regards to a lot of people's performances.
Speaker 1:It was like a big-ass rectangle yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like I said, there wasn't much going on on stage and I think that took away from it that there wasn't really much dancers. People weren't really kind of enjoying the music to help other people kind of get more captivated. But when Tyler got on stage that shit changed. The energy in the room was electric, like he took control of the crowd, say, hey, this is my man show. We about to really do this for him because you know he's a white whisperer white people have been going.
Speaker 1:Tyler shows have been majority white, also his entire career. That's why I've never been to a tyler the creator show. They scared me. They, them, them crazy white boys. I was feeling bad, though, swinging their arms all over the place. I I felt so bad them crazy white boys. I was feeling bad, though swinging their arms all over the place.
Speaker 2:I I felt so bad for you because he literally was like finishing his last song when you came in I was so sad like I sat down. It was like the last 15 seconds of his show, that his set that I caught which is like and it was crazy too, because watch it again the change went from like disparage gangbanging to Black Boy, joy and just one note, because he performed what's your Name and Earthquake.
Speaker 2:And I'm not even familiar with the first song. And that's what got everything jumping. I heard Earthquake before, but I'm not familiar with the first song.
Speaker 1:What's your name?
Speaker 2:The way it had me jumping.
Speaker 1:I love that song.
Speaker 2:Tyler is amazing. I was ready, I was tyler is like top five for me he really had changed the whole like way that the show was going yeah because at first this shit was a four pack ass like again skip the dj head part. He did nothing he brought nothing.
Speaker 1:it was awful. Tyler's gonna change how music is going. Love him so. And then, after Tyler Was Roddy Ricch.
Speaker 2:Roddy Ricch Okay.
Speaker 1:Now let me describe this so. First there was a little like tribute to Nipsey Hussle, so they played Perfect Ten, and Last Time that I Checked and then Roddy Ricch performed.
Speaker 2:So let me explain what happened with Roddy Ricch.
Speaker 1:Roddy Ricch, shit was funny, so what was the first song he performed? He played uh, he performed racks in the middle. Nobody in the crowd knew what the fuck that was. It was, it was a nipsey featuring roddy rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just saying, nobody knew the song. The crowd was like who is this?
Speaker 1:and then he played the box and then he played die young, which more people know, but it's more of like a, like black people know that song.
Speaker 2:When he played the box. That's the name of the song, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the box he played that.
Speaker 2:You could see every white person's face say, oh, that's that nigger.
Speaker 1:Why did you have to say the hard R?
Speaker 2:Well, that's what it felt like. Wow, they were like oh, that's the colored boy that sings that slap.
Speaker 1:That's really what it felt like, how their energy changed I also felt like roddy's energy changed when he was performing the box versus the other two songs and he, he, he seemed more hype. There was more like pyro techniques going on and stuff like that. He was hopping around. Like you have to give the same energy to all of the songs, like you can't just give.
Speaker 1:I think his headset was messed up because he was kept pointing to his ear the whole time he kept fixing it and doing that, but yeah, but that you still gotta get a show like how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 2:no, that shit, jump around, do do your shit. I'm saying that shit can throw you off.
Speaker 1:So then he performed Ballin', which led that song too.
Speaker 2:And he still had the crowd by that time, so they was going to jump with anything he was doing at that time.
Speaker 1:So then YG went up.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, this nigga in his church shoes.
Speaker 1:YG. I thought his energy was really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this shit got to stop. He can't keep wearing her church shoes that's like a california nigga thing. No well he has to stop it.
Speaker 1:It looks awful every time you telling all california niggas they need to stop it. Please look in the camera, look in your camera please californians no, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2:That's just, it's over with. Y'all had your moment with it. It's cool now we don't have to put on the the the grandpa shoes when we go outside yo and yg I saw what you did, man, you played that drake song which drake song the one him and drake got his feature with drake. When he got drake featured, that was like the second song he performed. That was my nigga was oh, not my nigga it was show me kwan and gz it was one of them songs he played with.
Speaker 1:Drake. He played A Little of you Broke, Tooted and Booted. And then, who Do you Love?
Speaker 2:One of them songs have Drake on it.
Speaker 1:I can't remember which one?
Speaker 2:I don't think any of them have Drake on it, because no they was talking about it in the space, they said they didn't play the Drake song.
Speaker 1:That's why they was mad. Um when he played big bank. I was saying that nikki got the best, best verse on um big bank and of course they wasn't gonna play that because nikki on drake's side, but she definitely got the best verse on that, on that song oh, but overall his performance wasn't good.
Speaker 2:It was good. There was like a whole, like low who's in between a lot of people, but once it got to mustard set, which most of these people that we discussed was were part of, that's when it got live so again. Skip that first part with dj.
Speaker 1:You don't, you don't need to watch it so I don't know why the list ends there, uh I'm trying to think after I think, after was. Was it not kendrick after?
Speaker 2:I think after yg was, yeah, it went straight to kendrick. I don't think anybody, I can't think of anybody else who would have went after him yeah one like ben staples performed or anything like that no, ben staples was in the crowd though yeah, I did see him, saw lebron, they like, so they did a pan of all the other black celebrities and black people just because, like I said, it was an easy thing to do, easier to get as many black people were there as it would have been to try to not, but uh, after that kendrick comes out, they do the kendrick and friends set and man.
Speaker 2:This motherfucker started with euphoria, yeah I was I was defeated at that point.
Speaker 1:As soon as I came I was like we gotta throw the ovo flag right now I was wondering if he was gonna perform any of the songs from the back and forth the drake beef. Knowing kendrick, I assumed he would. I didn't think that he would give us as much as he did, so let's get into it. As soon as euphoria came on, I was seated. Sat up and seated, I was like, oh shit, let's get it. I was distraught.
Speaker 2:I knew that we already the ovo team was was down bad yeah, we.
Speaker 2:There was no recovering from this, no way possible. But no, like I said, I will give this and I'll be honest with you. Like I said, I'm not the biggest Kendrick fan. His performance. I would give it a B-plus overall, but the parts that needed to hit the Drake were all A-pluses. So the Euphoria, even when him and Abso were doing a 616, then he had what else? Then the Not Like Us, but you can get into the songs that you like because he did have Dr Dre, which was dope, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm trying to find, like the oh, his list of songs, yeah. They probably don't have that up yet?
Speaker 2:They probably don't have that up yet.
Speaker 1:No, they don't have that up yet.
Speaker 2:Like I said, we just we should have been taking notes Because I thought it would be up, but no after you, for he kind of just went into just like a normal set of his kind of his music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he did.
Speaker 2:He did the, we gonna be all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He for sure did that one.
Speaker 1:It was funny too. He did Element yeah.
Speaker 2:Whoa it went. Euphoria DNA Element yeah, so the DNA one went. It was Ryder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everything he did hit.
Speaker 2:But still the audio. The audio. I could tell it hit with the crowd. The audio still didn't hit.
Speaker 1:Like I tell you, bro, it was probably a $600 box they needed and they would have made that audio sound so better, so much better but he was also just like he was switching up how he was performing, because he was just like not saying a lot of words, like just straight up, just well, the one thing that you kind of have to give credit to him for if you even if you are a kendrick hater was his performance stamina the entire time, like he was at least able to stay with what he was trying to perform with.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like he was letting the music play in the background and he'd just rap over the already playing song. It was just the beat. And he went in and for the most part that part was another A-plus part of the performance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he's a performer, he's not going to do the karaoke shit.
Speaker 2:He did look like a school shooter, though he did. I don't think he looked like a Mario version of a black school shooter.
Speaker 1:You're going to get that off the way you want to get that off he did. When I was looking at him, I was like his stylist, trying to make him look tall. Bro, Like the T-shirt with the cropped sweatshirt, making it look like the sweatshirt is too small for you. When in in, in reality the sweatshirt is cropped, it's just trying to elongate his his torso. That's what it looked like to me. He ain't look like no type of school shooter. He looked like a short nigga trying to look tall.
Speaker 2:He looked like the hotep anime nigga in the back of the classroom that can break and spaz at any moment. You know, that's what he looked like no, yes, he did.
Speaker 1:You get your shit off. But don't try to make me agree with that, because I don't agree with that at all. You know it's a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:That's exactly how he came up there with the whole red hoodie on. We already can see the affiliations. It was evident throughout the entire show. There needs to be a Rico after this, like there was tons of all, why do you want black men I? Don't want, but this is. You want gang behavior you're.
Speaker 1:You're plotting on a black man's destruction.
Speaker 2:I don't like that. I'm saying that that's gang behavior, that's illegal in California and you kind of just expose like probably like what five percent of the gang active gang members in la today five percent is crazy like show all their identity, showed all their throwing their flags and their rags in the air. So much evidence like if I'm that, if I'm the fucking.
Speaker 1:That's up to those niggas. If I'm, why was y'all up there with flags? Y'all could have just wore red.
Speaker 2:If I'm, if I'm the da you're just gonna put in my lap. I'm over here. Screenshot, screenshot, screenshot, screenshot. We got we got him it's over with. We got him so uh, next he performed element, I mean all right after element, and then swimming pools no, it was funny though, because in the little space right before he played, all right, I was like, oh, he about to slit the slate, he about to set the slaves free. That was good.
Speaker 2:That's hate yo, I know this your man's, but damn, that was a good one and he did. He did his thing in there.
Speaker 1:Like I said, his performance wasn't the problem I've cried listening to all right, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Well, and then it did his job. It set the slaves free. Let you, let you freed you of your emotions so you're a dickhead.
Speaker 1:Um, then he did money trees and then I was like, please, j-rock, come out and do that iconic ass verse. And then he came out and did it and I was so happy. Like that verse is amazing on money, j-rock, we need to give him his flowers more often.
Speaker 2:J-Rock was the quintessential like bad-dressed LA nigga, because all of them looked horrible.
Speaker 1:J-Rock has been wearing the same thing his whole career A button-down and jeans like and a hat Like that. Nigga has been wearing the same thing every single time we've seen him. He doesn't have a button down on, he has um a t-shirt on.
Speaker 2:that's all he wear west coast fashion is disgusting it's very specific.
Speaker 1:All y'all niggas for what it is all y'all niggas.
Speaker 2:Look like y'all was in boys in the hood at least, or minister society j-rock. I have never seen him without a shape up like how do you have a whole uniform for a particular area in the country? Like that don't make sense.
Speaker 2:Like you have a whole gangbanger aesthetic and attire it's not even just gangbangers, yeah it's just like normal la niggas like you just get mixed up in the fold yeah, like that's what I'm saying, like, will you just see, all of these guys had just the worst fit ever. Like blet, uh, blast, I think that's his name. He spells like bl, bl, x, st, I don't know who that is this nigga had a mesh jersey on oh no, that shit looked horrible and it was like a midriff.
Speaker 2:I don't think men should wear mesh, and then, like he was a little on the heavy side too, not fat, but he was just bro. You know that if you didn't have it, that little tucked in gurnal thing on, you was gonna see your little gut body positivity. I'm just being honest with you like that was that wasn't a good look for him.
Speaker 2:A lot of you other niggas, like y'all could clearly was wearing the old hoodie. Y'all been outside in that before. It shouldn't have been on stage and then, like I said, yg, then YG. Look like he probably trying to go to the saloon.
Speaker 1:YG had that two piece like denim thing on. That was probably some desire.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, hold on, we got to go back to it.
Speaker 1:It looked like some type of Dior or Bottega or something like that.
Speaker 2:So if you do want to watch the first part, the DJ headset, there's one part that's slightly worth it. They have a group of women that's performing. I don't know the name of their group or whatever they had. This big girl had some confidence on her, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2:Tell you what because she went up there, built like a, built like a oblong all right, oh my god, you know what I'm saying fupa out like pushing through the leather, like it's rising bread, like I'm sitting there like oh shawty is a bold one talking about. It was the fupa in the front and then the at the washboard behind on the back. Oh my god, she was out there giving it up. I'm sitting there like you, girl. You got some confidence on you because man listen to him that shit was built like a hippopotamus.
Speaker 2:Oh no, oh, my bad, that was messed up. I was laughing when you said that. I was laughing at that, but no that might be worth it to go see in the front, but what else? Get back to Kendrick.
Speaker 1:Okay. So after Money Trees he performs when with J-Rock, which isn't my favorite song. I hate the hook on that song. I hate repetitive hooks your boy abso got on stage too yeah, so then after that um, he does, um king's dead, and then after that he does no future yeah, no future.
Speaker 1:And then after that he does um 616 in LA with Absole and I love Absole. Absole was my favorite rapper from Mad Long and then he took a while to drop an album, so I moved on to Smino um, it was a little touching moment there it was.
Speaker 1:They were like right right there like brotherhood black male brotherhood and, um, I don't know, I don't remember what disease abso has, but he has, like a, some type of degenerative disease and he's been slowly losing his sight for some time now. So that's why he's always wearing the the sunglasses, because he's really sensitive to light in a bunch of in some and there was a part where kendrick was directing.
Speaker 2:He was like where are we going?
Speaker 1:nigga, I can't see yeah, um, and he, he jokes about it, but abso has been through a lot. Yeah and um, he's an amazing artist. Uh, after that he does collagreens and um, schoolboy q comes out, um, so schoolboy absole, j-rock and kendrick are all on stage. Black hippie is on stage. Right, I want them to do um, what's the terrorist threats? Or I want them to do um what's the name of that song? Damn.
Speaker 1:I forget the name of that song, but there's another, like I want them to do like a black hippie song, but they don't do one and then they go on to to do uh, that part which is schoolboy q song, and I was so disappointed. That was the only thing I was disappointed about this whole concert is that Black Hippie didn't do like a Black Hippie song together, because why wouldn't? You.
Speaker 1:And then Kendrick said after Schoolboy Q came out like Black Hippie is on stage, and then I got so excited. I literally was like flailing my arms in the air and then they went on to do that part and I was so sad.
Speaker 2:So then after that they do king kunta which is my shit honestly, king kuta is my king kuta in front of a white crowd is crazy bitch, where you went up was walking because we're not even gonna talk.
Speaker 1:Okay, keep going yeah, um, then he did mad city humble. I was twerking in the kitchen when he was doing humble no, no.
Speaker 2:We need to break it back because we already missed this part in euphoria where he tells him we don't want you saying nigga no more. Whole white crowd is telling drake. We don't want to hear you say nigga, no more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy did you notice that kendrick wasn't? He was like 25% of the niggas in the lyrics. He wasn't saying all of them, that shit's nasty.
Speaker 2:He kept like that shit is nasty.
Speaker 1:When he was performing. What Euphoria he said. We don't want to hear you say no more.
Speaker 2:He let the crowd say it. He didn't say it. Yeah, he let the crowd say it, he didn't say it. Yeah, he let the crowd of all, mostly Caucasian people, say it Is this, your black messiah wiping up a mixed queen? Listen, just saying Get vanilla, you know. Help him with his self-esteem, that vanilla cream Every time you quote Drake.
Speaker 1:I get drier and drier.
Speaker 2:That's some Bobby shit, trying to know what Whitney needs.
Speaker 1:Now you're bringing up little white girls. That's crazy. He did. And then he did like that, without Future, of course, because Future wasn't there. And then Dr Dre comes out. So Dr Dre comes out, dr dre comes out.
Speaker 2:He does still dre, and california love so we got to point out, because we wouldn't be the show we are if we did it.
Speaker 1:Two domestic violence, people allegedly on stage together yeah, being celebrated and we know that that kendrick and dre have been close for since Kendrick's early career, so hmm, I wonder what else they have in common besides the music.
Speaker 2:I hate that um, we're just gonna step off that we're not. Yeah, we are, we're not gonna have the conversation.
Speaker 1:He, um, dr Dre, is leaving. And then Kendrick is like you don't, you don't have nothing to say to the crowd. And then Dre is like oh, yeah, yeah, let me come back, you're right. And then Dre goes shh, I see dead people and I threw myself to the ground. So Kendrick debuts. For the first time ever, performs Not Like Us live. For the first time ever performs Not Like Us live. He stops at a minor for Madlong, runs it back, stops at a minor again. I'm like, wow, runs it back. I'm like this is the last time he's going to perform this song. No, no, it is not.
Speaker 2:He proceeds to perform the song at least three more times. Right, they, they stepped on Drake's grave that's all this was he. Literally was like pummeling his dead body it was like kicking a man when he's already down yeah, it was not okay, but it was just so like. But the camera work was what was nasty. When they went to the Like, just the cuts and all that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit look crazy Like they made this like six feet tall. Yeah, they always make. It was good angle taller.
Speaker 2:They gave him some good angles. Yeah, I can understand why they were trying to help him out. They kept him away from people. Everybody was hunching down when they got close to him to make him look bigger. I seen the play. I understand. When you a dude of his short stature, people, will you know, bring themselves down to your level so that you feel comfortable.
Speaker 1:I've seen it happen. So, yeah, he performs, not like us, I think one, two, three, four, five. He performs it five times and then he runs it back for the instrumental the last time, the fifth time, the fourth time he played it I thought it was going to be the last time and then someone in the crowd, I think, goes run it back and he was like, run it back, all right, performs it again while a bunch of people are getting on stage like okay, I'm gonna ruin it for y'all, that's part of the plan.
Speaker 2:Okay, they have to get people out at a certain time or they get charged more money.
Speaker 1:That's all part of the plan yeah there's not no second wasted Listen before he performed Not Like Us you said Jokingly that he was going to perform it five times. Yeah, I did. And you weren't off like, and I was like, yeah, that would be very Kendrick of him to perform it over and over again, like hammering it in. So Of course this was planned.
Speaker 1:I don't think this was like. I don't think he spontanate spontaneously, spontaneously, spontaneously, thank you, what the fuck? Um, I don't think he spontaneously performed it that many times, but like I love it regardless it was, so it felt like a, a cultural moment. You know, I really I wish I could have been at that concert, but I don't live in LA and I don't have money to be like flying to LA within weeks notice.
Speaker 2:No, I mean a lot of it did resonate. I mean you can't, kendrick plays and plays to that and appeals to that kind of part of you at, especially when you're like a black person in this country. You think about a lot of the things in the history that's happening to this, you know, got us to where we are today and he just appeals to that. Like I said, that's the whole niche behind him, that's the whole stick that everyone adores from it. He plays into it wonderfully. It's pretty much like I said it's a master class for what he does. It's like fly Dr.
Speaker 2:Umar. If Dr Umar could do like notes and didn't get mad at interracial dating, like that's literally what he is Like. It works for him and I can't get mad. The people love it Again. I think it's interesting. Nobody from the 20V1 was there. There was no Future, no weekend, no Metro. Nobody showed up for them. I think that's interesting to note.
Speaker 1:Because they all pussy and they probably all busy too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they're in Paris, some people for the fashion week or whatever, yeah, but no, I just thought it was interesting. I just think that should be noted, duly noted. What's going on out here? These guys aren't together. This is no longer a coordinated attack, it's a let's just dance on the grave.
Speaker 1:It hasn't been a coordinated attack for a while. No, the coordinated attack won.
Speaker 2:They got what they needed to do and Drake's right now trying to lick his wounds. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's using Sexy Red and Gwangwanda Lila. Yeah, sexy Red. I love the album girl. I do. I love Se the album girl. I do. I love sexy red album. I be, um, I be, uh, putting her albums on during my fancy showers. I put a bunch of candles on in the bathroom and then, in a moment where you think I would be playing Erykah Badu, I put on sexy red. I think it makes my soul happy to have like a very bougie surrounding, and then like ratchet noise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very telling, very telling. But he ends the the show. Kendrick then ends the show by pretty much having everyone who performed, everyone who was part, because they even had like a little crump session, which was kind of awkward.
Speaker 1:I wasn't a fan of the crump session um, it's a very california thing and it was a california cultural. Still thought it was okay, still thought it was awful, just thought it was awful.
Speaker 2:They even had the people from the documentary, from that old Crumpet documentary or something. They had that Didn't like it Wasn't a fan, didn't do anything for me.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't trust your judgments on music and cultural things Absolutely. Arts, I mean that's cool it just didn't do nothing, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean that's cool, it just didn't do nothing for me. I mean the clown dude tried to clown it up. I feel like I have a mixed understanding of clowns. Some people try to tell me it's a white Sambo, so it just kind of bothers me. When I see black people in clown makeup, it's kind of troubling. It's not something I enjoy. Okay.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean, like I said, he brought the whole crew out, brought pretty much all LA out, had Big Boi on stage, not the rapper, the radio guy, who else that was up there? They dropped a child. A child did hit the ground.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that so I did.
Speaker 2:That child hit the ground. I think he hit his head. I hope he went to the doctor to get checked out it looked like he hit his head.
Speaker 1:There were a couple NBA players on the stage.
Speaker 2:Had Russell Westbrook and DeMar DeRozan. Y'all are not coming to the Lakers now.
Speaker 1:Russell Westbrook. You were already gone, but he didn't get on stage. But I didn't think LeBron would. He has you know, he's a little bit more strategic with his shit. No, he's not strategic, he's not strategic.
Speaker 2:He can't be up there with no fucking gang members. You think Nike's not going to have that? Hell. No, you think McDonald's is going to. You're going to be up there with them coloreds and their flags.
Speaker 1:Can you stop? No With the racial terms.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? It's no longer Juneteenth anymore. I can get my shit off.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter. Like, we started this at midnight, so you can't say nigger and coloreds within the half hour.
Speaker 2:I can get my shit off.
Speaker 1:I think you should space it out a little bit more.
Speaker 2:No, that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying to him. Don't you get your big nigger ass on that stage with those happy-go-lucky spooks. That's what he said.
Speaker 1:I need you to not. That's exactly what Rich Paul said in the text message. I need you to not.
Speaker 2:That's what Rich Paul said in the text message. That's what he said. I'm sorry, but overall this was a great black event. It was.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed it very much, funded by white people. I love Black Hippie so much I need y'all to do an album together. Please, lord, have mercy. I know y'all all doing stuff. I know j-rock and abso y'all a little bit less busy you heard about reasonably leaving td I didn't even know reason was with td yep, they said he left.
Speaker 2:They said they was making jokes on the internet saying it was because he was showing drake a little too much love during the beef. He was trying to be impartial. He was showing Drake too much love, but I thought that was funny.
Speaker 2:But no, I think overall, I'm going to give the concert and just everything that. In its totality it would be a B+. Like I said, audio was just an issue, just from the stream, just the people in the crowd are going to bother me when your message is what it is. Uh, but you went up there. You called drake a pdf file. I wish you would have called him the b word or some type of disparaging comments before the night was over with I mean, he already had multiple songs full of calling him names.
Speaker 1:He performed the songs and he performed one of them five, six times don't as a drake h.
Speaker 2:Don't act like you didn't want to hear Drake you a bitch. Yeah, I wanted to hear that too.
Speaker 1:But I'm very satisfied with seeing him perform that song for the first time ever and then performing it that many times and standing on it.
Speaker 2:For sure. I think that was it. Like I said, if you're going to go watch it, skip the first part, unless you want to see the FUPA and do your thing. Man, shout out to Kendrick Lamar you won this bout, but the Canadian will be back.
Speaker 1:He been won. Of course, the Canadian is going to be back. The Canadian is going to be back and we're coming with him. His daddy, lucian, is going to definitely like he's right there, just be ready for him. He's always there to support him.
Speaker 2:That's all I gotta say. So there was an interesting little thing I saw here with some interviews that the Breakfast Club and Joe Button did. So the Breakfast Club had Tyler on.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that interview was only like 17 minutes long it was a reason.
Speaker 2:We'll get into it in just a moment. And then Ruby Rose was on joe budden's patreon I saw a couple clips of that okay, so let's get into just the overall.
Speaker 1:I tried to go watch it, but I guess couldn't find it because it's on patreon let's get into, uh, what you were talking about with tyler. So you said it was a 17 minute interview yeah, I didn't watch it, um, because it was so short. I was like, okay, she obviously doesn't have that much personality, and then I just didn't watch it so that's hate.
Speaker 2:But um what? Happened really, really pretty girls don't be having that much personality but I guess what happened was they received, like you know, list of letters. I mean list of questions not to discuss or ask her about charlamagne. Knowing who he is, he's going to ask her. So there's a clip of him asking her the question and then her producer I'm going to see if I can find the clip her manager, producer, whatever, whoever's in charge of Tyler at this time.
Speaker 11:Basically shut all that shit down about your identity as a South African colored person. What does that even mean?
Speaker 2:so she shuts up, turns her head. Can we? Yeah, Can we not Por?
Speaker 7:favor. Oh, I like that we keeping that in the interview too.
Speaker 11:I like when they talk from the back and say we can't. I like that, I like the character. That's good, that's even better. Next one, please, that's even better.
Speaker 2:So basically, what was going on there? Like I said, she was mums the word on anything that had to do with that, because I guess she's what south african yeah but she's also like some indian in her so she looks like an indian girl to me. Like when I see her she looks like kind of like the more preferred looking indian girls that you see him out pick out of the movies.
Speaker 1:But she looks like an indian girl. To me, the preferred indian girls be looking whiter than that. I mean, I'm talking about, not complexion wise just face structure yeah and like hair qualities and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean. She feels like a bollywood type of artist that just for some reason she attracts more of a black audience, but they use like terms, like color out there, and they have different concepts of race. I don't think she should have been, I guess, scared to talk about it no, she should have just.
Speaker 1:I mean, we can easily do a google, so if you're that interested about um race in in south africa, then you can just look into it yourself. But uh it, she, she can just have the.
Speaker 2:She can just take the opportunity to educate people yeah, I mean, it's not her job too but I could just see where it's like you could have just been like hey, we discuss race differently and we just use different words, because I'm literally from the other side of the country or the other side of the world. Colored is like they're black yeah, it's just a normal conversation shit like she.
Speaker 1:She's an african woman. Obviously she considers herself african of african descent.
Speaker 2:She knows, she black so what do you think she's not? Trying to say that she's not black so what do you think in situations like that, when folks are on podcasts or doing little interviews like this, what do you feel like is the best way, as the artist or the subject of the interview like, to handle this? Do you think she did a good job? Because to me that's a nasty way of looking controlled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. It does look like she's controlled. If there's a list of questions you shouldn't ask, then professionally you shouldn't ask those questions.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, no, you think if somebody gives us some questions that we're not going to ask, that I'm not going to ask every question on that list.
Speaker 1:Then we might get a 17-minute interview.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying we got to have journalistic integrity. The reason why the jurors are saying, don't ask, that is because there's something to be answered here.
Speaker 1:to have journalistic integrity, the reason why the jurors saying don't ask, that is because there's something to be answered here, but isn't. Isn't general journalistic integrity, respecting your source?
Speaker 2:this isn't a source, though we're over here getting information from her well, it's an interview yeah, we don't. We're not doing fluff pieces. My thing is we're wasting our time if we end up here and do a fluff piece with somebody.
Speaker 1:I think the better route if I really wanted to talk about something that was on the list would be like listen, this is a safe space. I'm not trying to attack you. I'm trying to give you a platform to explain these things that people really want to get to know about you. So take this opportunity to use this to answer all the questions that you don't want anybody to ask you.
Speaker 1:And I think that's a better, more professional way to hone better relationships down the line too and get better interviews and make the person that you're interviewing more comfortable because these are human beings.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you're assuming that I wasn't going to come at the question tactfully. I'm still going to come at the question tactfully, but this question is going to be asked nonetheless.
Speaker 1:But if you agree to not ask the question, and then we sit down, cameras are rolling, you ask the question, then the person feels blindsided.
Speaker 2:It's not agreed. Though that's not what they do. They'll come in and say hey, we've already set the interview, we already got the date. We're coming in moments before the interview or a few days before and say hey, these are the questions we ask you not to ask. Is that not a? Normal practice? Yeah, for sure. Key word ask you not to ask. You can't tell me to do nothing on my platform and the fact that you're sitting here putting it out there.
Speaker 1:You can still take the opportunity and ask the question. Yeah, like I said that, doesn't.
Speaker 2:I think when people hear like that abrasiveness yeah, like I said, that doesn't. I think when people hear that abrasiveness from someone in the field, they automatically assume that you have ill intention, that you want something bad. Because this goes into the other interview with Ruby Rose. So in that interview she never talks about Drewski. They never ask her about Drewski, they never bring it up. Pretty much one of the most popular things about her is that she's date with that. She was at least aligned with druski at the moment that's just what you say.
Speaker 1:That at all at this time, yeah, besides her only fans like besides, what she looks like yeah, what she looks like is the most popular thing and has been the most popular thing about her since we've known her. Uh, her being attached to druski has been like the thing for the past two weeks.
Speaker 2:It's not really but that was but if you have her on your patreon or in an interview within that time frame, that should be a clear question to ask but they haven't had drewski on okay, it doesn't matter, we're just talking to you and what's the most I'm just saying if you type her name, uh, um, better look for a drewski than it is for her.
Speaker 1:Like it's not, she's with the poppin nigga, he's with the poppin girl well, we're about to talk about drewski in a second.
Speaker 2:Why? That's not the case at all. But uh, right now she's would probably be on his relevance of anything. Uh, but no, I think that that's just a weird not to even bring up that conversation at all in your interview with them. Like that's just not to me. I don't care how you kind of view yourself, people want especially celebrities then give us that information, spill the beans.
Speaker 2:But I feel like in our position and what we were doing, I think it's very important that we don't pussyfoot around shit like we should be straightforward and trying to get the information when these folks are not our friends. These folks are subjects that we're studying in our particular conversation and if you're going to try to like stop that kind of science to be done, then we don't even need to have a conversation, because the conversation is to get to the point of these. The questions need to be answered. Also, she does something that's really nasty. I'm just like this shit. I don't that she's on, I'm just not a fan of it, like it's so gross. So she's like trying to kind of clickbait this underage shit. So in the interview with joe buddett she said no for real.
Speaker 1:I saw the clip. I just had a completely different.
Speaker 2:She says that she was like 16, 17, 18 or she don't remember when, what age she was when she did the bad and bougie video. So I checked the internet bad and bougie video came out seven years you're 26. You couldn't be no more than 18, 19 years old in that video. But now you're trying to make black men who were the leads in that song look nasty. And you're doing it for clout, because this is not the first time she's done or said anything like that. She did that on DJ Vlad, where she brought that up, where she talked about being underage. Well, she might have been underage with some of these gentlemen. I'm not going to act like she wasn't, but I feel like that's just gross to try to use that as like clout conversation to get your name into the buzz and the media trying to look and then she tries to make the shit like it's cute, I don't want to like, I don't know it's.
Speaker 1:It is weird if you're mentioning it not from a place of like, trying to warn women, or not trying to tell us from a place of like you've healed from this or you're trying to heal from this. It's just like a thing you're bringing up to try to get people to click on your name when you do interviews so that you get more interviews. That's weird. So like if she's someone who's been hypersexual for a very long time, for whatever reason, like I don't know how her brain works. It might not work the way it should.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know my attitude, so that always applies.
Speaker 1:Like maybe she thinks that like this is cute for some reason and it's a dangerous mental state to be in.
Speaker 2:I just think that she's trying to make it look appealing to other girls that are going to be younger and listen to her, and that's who pretty much look up to her, if anybody's looking up to her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who is looking up to Ruby Rose, Like you? Can think that she fine, but like looking up to Ruby Rose is crazy.
Speaker 2:There's plenty of girls, young girls, who want the attention that she has and she's all on their walls. That they're all that she talked about. They got a stand account to Ruby Rose where they post all her pictures there are girls that are doing that.
Speaker 2:It's not even out the realm of possibility. But no, I just think that that's why it's important for for us, because these folks have no intentions on being good to the people, and that's why I think, with our platform, what I want to do, anytime we bring anyone on Notable or Not Too Notable is just get to the honest information of why we want to talk to them. You know, unless they're like a friend that we have on and we just have them join the conversation. But no, but.
Speaker 1:I just feel like that's something that we can do in pre-production.
Speaker 2:No, sometimes you got to, I just don't want to blindside people.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got to. Sometimes you got to blindside people. Sometimes you do.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about it. We'll be in conjunction. Yeah. That'll be the most important part We'll be on the same page. They going to be in for something All right. So Complex has dropped a funniest people list, so I think it's pretty important that I read this portion.
Speaker 2:I don't like this, this list, and the way it's formulated well, I'm gonna explain right here, so this is like the second paragraph in there. So complex staff curated a list of funniest people on the internet right now. In the process of evaluating figures, we factored in the reach and the popularity of the content, social media reactions, their engagement rate on their own platforms and the aggravation of their content. We are not including current stand-up comedians which they do include one and let's just fucking lie and legends like kevin hart, kat williams and dave chappelle. This is strictly for those who are flourishing on online content. Theo von was an exception. Uh, because for him to be on the list was consistent going viral for social media. You know he's a dude who uh interviews?
Speaker 2:yeah, and it's a list of basic recent performance on like jerry resume was also the only white man on the list no, he wasn't he wasn't okay number 20 was.
Speaker 2:So caleb presley was, uh, number 20 on the list. He's the dude who interviewed drake and his son. He's with barstool. He has like the goofy mustache. He kind of dresses like an old school uh football reporter, like that's his little stick. He's. He has his moments. I don't I'm not mad at him for being on the list, but it's kind of like home team type of thing, like Complex and Barstool kind of working together type of thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, and there's also Cluesmore, barstool, gilly and Wallow. I don't like this. This is the first part of the list that I did not like. Are they funny? Not just the fact that they're funny. I don't like that you're including them together. You know what I'm saying. I don't like that you're including funniest people and then you have a group of guys together.
Speaker 1:So now you have two minds against the one. There's more than one group on this list.
Speaker 2:That's why I didn't like it. That was the main reason I didn't like it. So next is New York Nay, not familiar with her work. She looks a little biracial, racially ambiguous. Yeah her work. She looks a little, uh, biracial, racially ambiguous. Yeah, I'm not familiar with not familiar with work, so we're gonna go right back vince staples. Okay, what, what?
Speaker 1:he's not funny vince staples is hilarious to me, but he also doesn't like have a podcast. He barely posts on social media. The only time we get content from him is when he does like interviews and interviews, or the show, which again was not funny.
Speaker 2:It was not that funny of a show so I vince staples being on the list. I would have took vince staples off this list yeah he's not funny to me.
Speaker 2:So here's the next group, cameron and mace, like come on, we do not need groups. And then I feel like these guys at least in their own route and own uh, their own regard. It should have just been cameron on this, because cameron is way funnier than me. I'm just, but you know me, I'm not a fan of, uh, that arrogant new york humor. It's not my favorite. So this person who I think was egregiously underrated, lou ratchet. Lou is the one who was famous for the everybody uses for uh, young miami, you see, your boy, we got him on them charges. Lou is hilarious. Lou got some of the most hilarious content in the world.
Speaker 2:He has very uh unique content but it sticks out and you remember it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then his like goofy-ass-looking face and demeanor just sells everything that he does. Kai Sinat, and this is why I don't like the group shit, because they have Kai Sinat at number 14. Shout-out to Kai young Haitian. Just had a big moment with Drew Skin and K-Heart yeah, but then they have after after him or before him at 13 fandom yeah. So if you're not familiar who a fandom is fandom and I think he just. I saw somebody said he had a heart attack, so I hope he's all right. Uh, yeah, I saw somebody said that where he had tweeted he had a heart attack or a heart scare or whatever.
Speaker 2:Probably like some murmurs or whatever, but uh, he's in front of kai which is weird which is weird in the first part, but then also they're part of amp yeah together. So then why wouldn't you just put the amp house in there?
Speaker 1:well, all of them do have like their own shit yeah, but but they also still all work together.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. It's just a weird way. So then the next one is zoe spencer. I think she could have been a little lower.
Speaker 1:I think she was a little too high well, I've seen um her content before and she hangs out with like the amp niggas and all that stuff like she's part of that same, that same like group, so her being grouped together with phantom and kai makes sense yeah, I would have put her just a little bit lower, just because the only thing I've ever really seen her do was the little balloon, shit, and it was just like, okay, it's not that, it wasn't all that funny?
Speaker 2:I think she's funny she's like a. She's very aggressive, though then I think he was extreme to how lou young I think he is like a pr darling when it comes to this like social media, humor, shit yeah, I've never seen this man before, I think he's the guy that you can get.
Speaker 1:That's relatively famous, like in regards to numbers, oh, he's the one that did the shannon sharp shit that was funny, he did that, but he does really safe humor yeah it's not very like we're gonna take some chances and hurt some feelings with it.
Speaker 2:It's very like okay, we can bring him in, but we also know we can get him at a good rate.
Speaker 1:Feelings a little bit.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think that's fine that was real timid, then another group, but then this is fucked up. 85 south show yeah, and they're all stand-up comedians all stand-up comedians, which wasn't acknowledged in the complex article. Again shitting on these boys, but the white boy gets to made. You know specific that he is stand up and we just made an exception for him. But, again. I don't like you know the group shit. Then you got Malik B.
Speaker 1:Is he not a stand up comedian also?
Speaker 2:I believe he also, because this is what the picture they literally have for him? Is him on a stage? Yeah, I don't like his humor. He makes clay humor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he should be not on the list at all.
Speaker 2:Like him and Clay are like the same person. So again, complex. Y'all are bad at making your own list within your own rules. Desi Banks is number eight.
Speaker 1:I don't think Desi is funny. I think Desi was too high. I don't think Desi Banks is funny.
Speaker 2:I think he was way too high.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just don't enjoy his content and I never have, if you just want to go off reach, I can understand that.
Speaker 2:And putting them in the top 20 but not eight, he's so cringy to me he's so cringy, I hate everything he does I scroll right past it. Kevro dolo, I'm not familiar with your game, sir, so I'm not going to criticize you too much he does like the the pit high-pitched voice thing.
Speaker 1:Um, he's had a couple things go viral.
Speaker 2:He's more of a tiktok guy number six was Funny, marco, I think maybe he probably should have been in the top three. Funny.
Speaker 1:Marco is genuinely funny on his own.
Speaker 2:But I think because of what you let them boys do to you, that's why your shit went down. You let them boys embarrass you, not a good look. Then they put Theo Vaughn, number five, which as a comedianovan is top tier and in the fact, like as a podcaster, his like gifted way to kind of go from straight conversation into like making a joke into an ad, it's, it's amazing his train of thought and the way he speaks to people is so fucking chaotic it is, but it's like it's so chaotic yeah, it's like great to like you never get bored.
Speaker 1:It's like what the fuck is gonna happen next. I have no idea, but like you're on the edge of your seat and it's hilarious the whole time okay.
Speaker 2:So this next person I would have put in my top three because, honestly, I would have probably put him number one, just because me and Drewski had a past little conflict that has since been resolved. But Trey Rags Trey Rags is a funny-ass nigga when I tell you he did that Dw. He did that dwight howard skit. That nigga changed the game. That nigga show. He was on some next level shit with this, like we're not talking about. We're not talking about what these other niggas is on. This nigga is just him and his fucking phone and he creates the craziest scenario yeah his facial expressions.
Speaker 2:He has a very expressive face. It's amazing like you can tell the fear, you can tell when he's upset, you can tell when he's ready to beat a nigga, and it's just. His expression is just, it's flawless. So, trey, I think you should have been way above. That was just like the hood dudes can't say happy birthday classic classic.
Speaker 2:Uh, then they did another thing. I hate it with the group mark phillips and the rdc, which I again salute to those guys. Y'all are my generation, like we was the same age for the most part. High quality content love it.
Speaker 1:I think what y'all are? My generation, we the same age, for the most part High quality content, love it.
Speaker 2:I think what y'all do is dope. But I think that grouping y'all all in again is just unfair. And again it goes back to the amp conversation. Yeah. And then Ben, the Don Drake's newest homeboy in regards to this. I think that's why he was probably so hot. Drake's newest bottom. Oh shit this. I think that's why he was probably so high bottom I. Oh shit what calling that nigga.
Speaker 1:Drake bought knew his bottom is him and odell broke up. Now that's his new boo.
Speaker 2:He got a type he loves short, light-skinned niggas that's crazy too, because I have a homeboy who looks just like this nigga, like I'm talking about spitting image, so crazy. But ben is I don't think he's number two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he should have been lower on the list?
Speaker 2:Did you see that his interaction with Kevin Hart? Yeah. When Kevin asked him what he wanted to do and he told him he wanted to act. And then that nigga said oh, I can see that. And then that nigga Drew's like man, I hate when rich niggas do that shit. He's like nah us nigga, yeah, help us. Drewski had Kevin dying the whole stream but he's always made Kevin laugh. From what I've been told and Kevin has always been on him on getting on stage, he wants him to do stand-up but Drewski hasn't done.
Speaker 2:You know, that's not, that's not his. Drewski not built for stand-up. Drewski's a funny nigga.
Speaker 1:Drewski is a unironically funny nigga yeah, he needs to be like a personality, just like a person you need to host things and what not, or he can write for people, but I don't think he can do roasts.
Speaker 2:Maybe, probably, I don't even think I don't think it's verbal. I think he can write scenarios and situations and then he has the skill to improv it and make it into something.
Speaker 1:I feel like he'd be good at a roast.
Speaker 2:No, unless somebody wrote it for him. I don't think so. Okay.
Speaker 2:To me he hasn't proven anything that shows diction in what he does. He's shown me that he can write stuff and create good scenarios and stories, but there's no diction in it. So again, drewski was awarded number one. Again, all of his accolades Could have been house, just pretty much him taking over the game. So I think that was it Overall the list. I don't necessarily 100% agree with. Drewski is in my top three, but I would have had Trey Rags in there just off of you know, what I just feel about how good he is Really quick.
Speaker 1:before we go on to the next list that we're going to read.
Speaker 2:Before we do that though I think we need to rejoice. Somebody was not on this list. Do you know who? Who Bitch nigga Queensflip. Oh, of course he wasn't, because he is not funny, and you have put yourself in a situation to essentially fail and continue to fail. And we hope you always do. We do a situation to essentially fail and continue to fail, and we hope you always do. We do. You put yourself there. You're gonna have to build and claw your way out. Don't look like you're back on joe show.
Speaker 1:You missed another episode and we're glad oh, is that three in a row now?
Speaker 2:yeah, and patreon, he's missed, so we are glad to see your demise. We hope we can see the end of your time on the joe button podcast yeah, meanwhile we're upgrading, so get them look at our new cups don't try to grab a fat, nigga relax um really quick, though this next list is what you should have been on tony.
Speaker 1:I don't know what his last name is. Statovski on TikTok should have been on this list. He has 4.3 million followers and he's had so many, like you know, black people like that's him, that's him and he should have been on this list and he should have been at least like top 15. Tony should have been on this list. And I'm caping for you, tony, even though what are you? Are you black a little bit tell us what are you tony?
Speaker 2:I feel like tony got black cousins, though probably he has like dark skin cousins where they don't have. He had him on. I don't know this guy, has he been on? Have they been on his content?
Speaker 1:he's, he's like shown them what does his hair look like?
Speaker 2:I feel like that's how you judge a person.
Speaker 1:He's got a long ponytail like it's curly like it's it's wavy he looks like albanian or something. He literally just put something up and he said that he should be in a head and shoulders commercial. Look at this is it is curly, it's very curly.
Speaker 2:He looked like mongolian or something like that, yeah, that's caucasian man, that's more caucasian than he is yeah, but he got black cousins well, he ain't the black, he's not the black, but he's raised around the blacks.
Speaker 1:Um okay, next list. I was really excited for this list because I think it's just comical and stupid and I love stuff like this. So complex, put out a list of um top 10 most accomplished crackheads yeah, we're gonna put queen's flip on there so we're gonna go from 10 to 1 because, uh, I thought this was hilarious. So number 10 we have culio, oh shit so is he dead I don't know. Is he dead? Yeah, I think he was arrested.
Speaker 1:The last thing it says is he was arrested for crack possession in 2009 that's fucked up complex.
Speaker 2:Coolio is dead, is he?
Speaker 1:yeah, he died like two years ago hold on one of this well, okay this article came out in 2011 oh my god, it just died in 22 okay this article has been going viral um. Next we have james free, because I don't even know who that is it ain't day free yeah, eight, we have flavor slave okay, that's fair I would have put them a little bit higher, but I'm black, so yeah, I'm biased next.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't guess who he, who we have next charlie sheen no, richard pr Pryor. Oh, for sure, 100%. That was my number one. Oh, really, yes. Do you know what that nigga?
Speaker 2:did no. Look at what he did to Pam Grier, that nigga. Basically again, I could be wrong. I believe he made her fucking sterile. He put coke or something in her fucking pussy.
Speaker 1:While freebasing cocaine and slugging down 151 proof rum, prior accidentally lit himself on fire and ran out into the streets ablaze. The best part is that, while enjoying his crag habit, prior was still simply killing on stage.
Speaker 2:No for real that nigga was gifted but no like yeah if you look up, he fucking. I think he was abusing Pam Greer too, but no, he definitely like hurt her physically, like from his crack use, like she tried to say she got sick because like it was just spewing out of his pores and his body and like it got her sick like that.
Speaker 1:That is too much crack, sir.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that's how much he was on you are smoking way too much crack if you're sweating the crack and then he wanted to fuck everything, but no, I said he was my number one. Crack it, but salute um.
Speaker 1:Next is someone we don't know, aaron sorkin oh, aaron, what'd he do? Uh, he won an academy award for the social network oh yeah, that's buddy.
Speaker 2:Let me see his picture.
Speaker 1:That's why there's no pictures on here, okay alan sorkin, I know he was uh terrible I think he was the, not the nigga who.
Speaker 2:He was the nigga opposite of uh, what's that nigga the other cracker name, uh, what was that nigga name? Uh? Damn michael cera. Is that michael cera? Yeah I think he was opposite of michael cera in that movie. Okay. Okay, no, I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have no idea who this is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I was right, he must have been somebody else in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, next we have Samuel L Jackson.
Speaker 2:I can believe it Like.
Speaker 1:Samuel L Jackson did crack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he also had Martin Luther King's dad as a hostage. What yeah? At one of the black colleges. King's dad as a hostage what yeah? At one of the black colleges? It was.
Speaker 1:Morehouse, he was trying.
Speaker 2:He held Martin Luther King's dad hostage yes, because they were trying to kick him out of school. So he went in there to the board, held him up, and one of the people that was in there was Martin Luther King's dad.
Speaker 1:Samuel L Jackson.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Held Martin. Martin. Luther King. Real shit. Well, held Martin Martin Luther King Real shit. Well, this is a clip. So next we have Robert Downing Jr.
Speaker 2:Okay, excellent, we got two Marvel people.
Speaker 1:And then Lawrence Taylor. Oh for sure, my God that was my number two.
Speaker 2:That is the greatest NFL player of all time. Really, and he was doing crack Every day he would pop a fucking rock right before the fucking kickoff. I'm exaggerating.
Speaker 1:Wasn't he not getting? Drug tested. That was number two. That was my number two. Well, he's number three.
Speaker 2:He should have been underrated, underappreciated crackhead.
Speaker 1:So next we have Marion Barry.
Speaker 2:Marion Barry. That was the DC mayor.
Speaker 1:He was caught smoking crack in an FBI in police sting he was eventually sentenced to six months in prison. He was the mayor of DC.
Speaker 2:Marion Barry. Was that nigga he? Returned to politics right after it was Richard Pryor, LT and Marion Barry. For me, I'm just saying Marion Barry was in my top three.
Speaker 1:He went back to politics with the slogan he may not be perfect, but he's perfect for DC and niggas voted him back in Niggas fuck with Marion Barry dog.
Speaker 2:I remember that when I was a kid.
Speaker 1:He did a little crack. We fuck with him.
Speaker 2:Who gives a fuck. He did a little crack. We fuck with him. Who gives a fuck that nigga had? Mace has some good policies, crack and then crack kept that man mind clear whitney houston, no oh I just ran out of crack. She didn't do crack.
Speaker 1:She was doing coke whitney, let us know, very like vividly I'm sorry, she was a lady I apologize, apologize, she was not poor. It's not about being a lady, she wasn't poor. That bitch was rich and she was doing coke, not crack. She started doing coke when she was already rich. Salute, who's number? One.
Speaker 1:So put some respect on Whitney's name. It's Oprah Winfrey. Oprah did crack, oprah did crack, oprah did crack. So in 1995 oprah, whose image is meticulously manicured, shocked the world when she admitted that in her 20s, when she was a news anchorman, her boyfriend had introduced her to crack.
Speaker 2:She claimed to have stopped using after they split up so I'm telling you, a crack was a normal wave dog crack was a party drug yeah niggas used to crack, like niggas used to match up rocks, that's crazy like how niggas match up like we today, like they used to do that with the rocks that's absolutely insane for real. All right, uh we done with the lists yeah okay.
Speaker 1:So, um, I watched this netflix documentary, uh, a couple days ago. Tell them you Love Me. So it's about this man with cerebral palsy and he's nonverbal and he gets a teacher and they start having an inappropriate relationship.
Speaker 2:So like, okay, Did they describe the inappropriate? Is it just like they were vibing inappropriately?
Speaker 1:it was physical like she was slapping it yeah jesus, okay, get into it some more okay, so the teacher's name is anna, and then, um, the man with cerebral palsy. His name is derrick, but we're gonna call him d-man, because that's that's what they call him. Like that's what he wanted to be.
Speaker 2:Well, apparently, that's what he wanted to be called it's not big three, it's just big d, and I got the video proof my bad.
Speaker 1:So, um, derrick grew up with cerebral palsy. His entire life he's been non-verbal his entire life and his mother and brother had been taking care of him for his entire life. He didn't go to school or anything like he needed help, doing literally everything. He didn't have any control over his hands or, yeah, cerebral palsy basically assistant living yeah.
Speaker 1:So, um, his brother goes to college and he meets this professor who she says that, like she works with autistic and nonverbal people to assist them in trying to communicate, called um facilitated communication. So, uh, the brother finds the professor she claims she can help him communicate. So he's like that's amazing, uh, and he hires her and he goes through the process of getting him to be under her care. So, um, let me just let's talk a little bit about facilitated communication, right? So facilitated communication or supported typing is when the facilitator would like support the person, either by their hand, their wrist, their elbow or their shoulder, typing so that they can communicate.
Speaker 2:Like a puppet.
Speaker 1:Essentially right their elbow or their shoulder typing so that they can communicate like a puppet essentially right. So, um, facilitated communication has been debunked. And this is from like the associated, like hearing organization, like the official people. So their position statement on facilitated communication, the position of the american speech language hearing association, that facilitated communication is a discredited technique that should not be used. There is no scientific evidence of the validity of fc and there is extensive scientific evidence produced over several decades across several countries that messages are authored by the facilitator rather than the person with the disability. Furthermore, there is extensive evidence of harms related to the use of FC. Information obtained through the uses of sc, of of fc should not be considered as the communication of the person with the disability so basically, if she got him typing um, I want that cooter, it doesn't, it's not admissible in court okay, so they are working together.
Speaker 1:She realizes she's like oh, he's so much smarter than um he's, he seems. She tells his family that, like he's been understanding everything that's been going on and he's been like reading the she told him he's a vibe yeah, she, he's been reading the street signs and he's been like watching the movies and he knows how to communicate. He knows what he wants to say. He just never could say it.
Speaker 2:And I'm helping him say it. So I'm just trying to see where we're going with here, where we're landing.
Speaker 1:So we're going to skip forward past a bunch of stuff Talking about the romance. No, we're going to go straight to that. So one day she says that she's helping him type and he types that he's in love with her and she's like I know, I love you too. And then he types can I kiss you? And then she's like yes, and then he's like kiss me again. And then they kiss again. And then after's like yes, and then he's like kiss me again, and then they kiss again, and then after that, so why?
Speaker 2:he's shaking While she's holding his arm. No, but I'm saying like when they kiss. Yeah. So she got to like aim at that shit the whole time baby, Guess what. That nigga's just spazzing. She's married. That's how they start, though.
Speaker 1:This is a white woman and the disabled man is a black man.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is all making plenty of fucking sense to me, he had the hammer.
Speaker 1:He had that disabled hammer.
Speaker 2:He was basically bringing down the wood. That's the only thing it could have been she curved left? I don't know that's the only thing it could have been. It couldn't be anything else left. I don't know. That's the only thing it could have been.
Speaker 1:It couldn't be anything else.
Speaker 2:So and when he got in it it was like a vibrator, because he just went crazy. The way what what did I say? Something bad. I'm just saying like what, what else would he do?
Speaker 1:I almost, I almost. I almost breezed past that and I'm glad I didn't, but the way that was vile, that was vile. I was gonna breeze past it again, but I couldn't, I couldn't. That was vile and only your brain would think of that I'm just saying he said that man is a vibrator because he got cerebral palsy you just said he can't communicate, so so the the way she describes falling in love with him. She's like like oh, he's an intellectual Because he started taking college classes and stuff like that with.
Speaker 1:With her With somebody. Okay, I don't understand that part, but he starts taking college classes. He's writing book reports and stuff with other people and stuff so he can write they breezed past.
Speaker 5:He's like writing book reports and stuff, like with other people and stuff like they, so he can write.
Speaker 1:They breeze past. That was the only thing that was like if the they said that the facilitator hadn't read the book that he was writing the book report on and he wrote the book report. But then she said that it was like similar to a bunch of other people's in the class okay, so like funny, funny business yeah, they sit down Derek's mom and brother and tell them that they're in love no, she tells them.
Speaker 1:She tells them that they're in love and that they want to to pursue a physical relationship, and that she wants to leave her husband and take care of him and be with him and then Derek's mom and brother swiftly remove him from her care, immediately remove him from her care, right, she does some like weird stuff and tries to like have one last meeting with him through the facility that um like had put them together, and the brother found out about this and then he brought the police. He he was like that's really weird that you feel strongly enough about this situation to like try to do some shady shit. So then they bring the police in.
Speaker 2:Um the I would feel like I'm hating. If that's my brother and he popping some shit off the cerebral, I feel like I'm hating. That's kind of like some pussy shit to me.
Speaker 1:But he can't consent to nothing. That's my nigga dog.
Speaker 2:I know that he would have wanted that. That's my brother. I know what he would have wanted.
Speaker 1:I did think about that. This is probably something that he wanted to experience.
Speaker 2:That nigga was happy.
Speaker 1:As a man, even if he ain't all man in his head.
Speaker 2:Hold on, though. There's a partner that wants it.
Speaker 1:Let's continue. Okay, I'm going to take what I just said, then I'm going to take that back. They get the police involved Eventually. There's an investigation going on because the school knows also. So there's an investigation going on and um the police bring in um like uh, someone who works with disabled people, like a behavioral psychologist, and they um evaluate Derek and he, his evaluation is that Derek is functioning within like like a pseudo reality six month to like three year, like that's. He's not. He's not functioning past like a three-year-old's brain function okay so like he not.
Speaker 1:I don't think he wants sex like if he's, if his brain function is that of a three-year-old's, I mean like he's not he's not thinking about that. So, um, after they get that information, she is arrested and she goes to jail.
Speaker 1:She is in this documentary defending herself I mean she's, that's her man like very like she's like we were in love, like I have so much evidence that proves that this was working and blah, blah, blah, but it doesn't work. Like, uh, facilitated communication just has been debunked for so long. It just doesn't work. Like she was the one that was guiding his hand when he was saying that I love you and kiss me and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Like she fell in love with herself okay, let's get to the stuff that we really want. So she was just riding it the whole time she said um.
Speaker 1:So the mom asked her about it. She was like how did you even make that work? She said that they would. She brought like a yoga mat and a beach towel to her office and that's how they did it oh, she the one, that's, that's, that's her, that's her dick so you gotta let her have it.
Speaker 2:No for no. We honest to god, that's hers. She wanted it bad. She bringing in yoga mats and towels yeah, it was really bad, she respected that nigga a little bit there was um so she like propped him up she, she probably laid him down and she just she like stroking, like to a guy, right, I it's gotta all work right like I don't know, it's just like it's just friction I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know if, if I wonder she just like pushed the blood into it and then sat on it, like she just held her hand with the blood in it, like just pushed all the blood up to the tip. I think you are getting a little bit too vivid salute my bad yeah I think it's a little bit too much just trying to I'm trying to figure out how she got this shit off.
Speaker 1:I did find a little bit more information, and so she, her husband, was black.
Speaker 2:Ok, so it wasn't like she was.
Speaker 1:She had two black children.
Speaker 2:She just was after. She was just a meat gobbler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let me. I wanted to play this really quickly, her husband's impact statement. Let me just explain it to you. I'm not going to play it. Her husband basically said that she is an egomaniac. What is a narcissist? She said that she's a narcissist and that she likes having power over special people, special people of color specifically and that this is like a pattern of behavior with her and that she does not think that she's wrong and if she's out she will do this again.
Speaker 2:So she went from colored man to special colored man, so she felt like she was already going down when she went, first black and then she was just like, okay, let me take it another notch but it was really like it was disgusting oh, for sure like after, um, the whole time I'm like, okay, like she's here, she's obviously like maybe she didn't go to jail.
Speaker 1:The documentary is like not even more than two hours long, so it's like very. It's not palpable as far as like content wise, but as far as like the amount of time you get, all of the information is in, it's fine.
Speaker 2:It's not a long Didn't make it with the cerebral palsy, why are you still? On this. I just want to know Did he ejaculate? I don't, I don't, was that?
Speaker 1:a part that wasn't a talking point no, because the conversation that they had about the, the details of their sex, was between her and the mother, so like she was, like I felt uncomfortable talking about this with his mom she called him her lover I'm just, I'm just, I'm curious of the dynamic you know what I thought was hilarious?
Speaker 1:um, she asked him what he wanted to be called and he typed in, uh, d-man, because that's that's what like a old teacher used to call him. And then she was calling him demand the whole time during the documentary. I was like this white woman, da man. Da man that's sick, like that's his name, da man.
Speaker 2:That's also bringing him down to just the lowest point. You're just Da man. You're just. Da man, and then she put a D on it to be ethnic.
Speaker 1:D-Man. His name is Derek. But D-Man is like saying D-A like for the racism, and then she always took away like the typewriter when she was done, like she never left it, like with his mom or with his brother so that they could try to communicate with him, puppet him. Yeah, she was like that's fucked up. She would be like oh, he doesn't want to wear this, like this isn't his style, because I would only know, and like he doesn't want to eat this and he doesn't want to listen to this type of music.
Speaker 2:I like that kind of behavior, though. You know me, I like that kind of talk, do you? Yeah, you, my vegetate, my vegetative state, someone trying to do some shit to me?
Speaker 1:you better be like nah, nigga only if he's in a vegetative state for sure 100.
Speaker 2:Don't tell me what to do that's why I said, do you?
Speaker 1:because I was like who the fuck is gonna even?
Speaker 2:but she's doing that to other people, for on my behalf. That's a different. You know what this made me think about when you told me this you know who, helen. Keller is yeah, you know she's a myth, right um, you know what's funny?
Speaker 1:her husband brought up Helen Keller. He, she was a myth, she, he said that she would do that same thing. Yeah, helen Keller, she was a myth, he said that she would do that same thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, helen Keller was fake, Like that shit was no lie. That shit, the shit that we learned in school was all a lie about Helen Keller. She was not reading, she was not writing, she was a special needs woman that was exploited and ran up and down this damn country to make it seem like they didn't figure it out. But you know what water was?
Speaker 1:she was special needs why are you saying special?
Speaker 2:because they try to make her seem like she's some fucking genius that was stuck in her body she was special needs, like.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like helen keller.
Speaker 2:I promised to look it up. Helen keller was a myth. They lied about everything all the little events they said she did, all the little feats they said she accomplished all fucking lies. Just like this lady, Helen Keller was a myth dog.
Speaker 1:If she was deaf and blind?
Speaker 2:And she couldn't hear.
Speaker 1:How could she have?
Speaker 2:done any of that. Well, you said deaf, Deaf, blind and mute. Yeah, she was just like random noises. She would make Stop young that's fucked up.
Speaker 6:That's fucked up. That's fucked up. You told me about the dude.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's fucked up, Don't do that. That was the but no, Helen Keller was a handicapped woman that the public tried to turn into some like newspaper clipping.
Speaker 1:Had to like snuff it down.
Speaker 2:That shit was crazy, that was sick, that was fucking nuts. Well, I'm glad we lightened up the mood with the hella color then we can get into this other shit. Yo you are a sicko. Yo You're a dark woman.
Speaker 1:I was about to listen.
Speaker 2:I had deaf friends before, so I know what they yeah, yeah, you know the noise make.
Speaker 1:I always thought it was fly when like thank god they knew how to read lips, because I didn't know sign language.
Speaker 2:I always thought the deaf nigga was fly where he would like could talk back to you. He would just, like you said, to read lips. Nigga, I always thought they was fly, but they never made it feel like you had to like treat them like they was bad. You know like. No, treat them like they was like you had to help them. They don't like. You know people don't like that like no like they were broken or something you just talk to you.
Speaker 2:You just talk to them and I really even noticed. But no, we gotta get into this football player. Yo shout out to this nigga dog ran off on the plug twice. Terrell lewis of the eagles, philadelphia eagles, was caught up on a expose in which you see, you can't really make out if it's him or not, but you see a woman completely naked, another woman with the phone booty, but naked.
Speaker 2:It looks as though some type of exchange was in the midst of happening, and then my boy took off or ran off. I want to plug twice. This is what the first thing that came to my head I was. I was ecstatic Because the hallway looked like it was a good like 30 yards, maybe not 30 yards, probably something like 30 feet.
Speaker 1:My boy took off.
Speaker 2:He did, and then she took off, and then she kept up with him for a little bit, and that's what I was thinking this nigga need to get cut right, like there's no reason why a naked hooker, first of all, is keeping up with you nah, you remember on on boondocks when the she chased a pimp named slick back went in her heels fruit miles yeah, a whole goal run after her money point blank period, like there's nothing that women like that care about more than they bred. Apparently the girl who posted.
Speaker 1:She had an adrenaline rush.
Speaker 2:I think it was two women. I think she was doing a two-way, he had two chicks and they just kind of worked together, and so I guess they had the camera up just to make sure everything was going to go down like it was, and that nigga played that shit good. You barely could see him in there and he was gone. Then Shawty going to post the entire team in the shit. And Shannon Sharp and. Espn just had the whole little list on that thing.
Speaker 1:You should have just paid for the pussy.
Speaker 2:No, bro, I'm not mad at you, bro, this is just like the drug game. This is just like the drug game. If a nigga run off on your drugs with you, it's just part of how it is.
Speaker 1:You should have been more keen and didn't?
Speaker 2:I feel like you should get a deposit like 50 I'm trying to figure out right, that's bad hoeing, this is bad pussy management yeah, don't y'all.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I don't know anybody who has sold a pussy ever, but I would assume that you would get a 50 like before and then get the rest later, so that that doesn't happen if you a hoe of a certain, like caliber I mean, you just want this should be a deposit, or at the very least, the cash on the dresser while this is going down I gotta put a deposit down.
Speaker 1:Everywhere else I go, with my nail tech, with my hair salon, when I do my eyebrows, when I do my lashes, everything you gotta put a deposit down. So why wouldn't I have to put a deposit down for the pussy?
Speaker 2:I mean, this shit makes perfect sense to me because which mccallis said it best man, uh, gunplay. When he was talking about his pimping days, he said the women who were the best to pimp were the white women. He said because they were very much so self-sufficient he said, when you try to pimp black black women, oh I need my hair. It is, I need, I can't be here. And you just see right here, y'all black women, y'all need pimps. Y'all can't be in this underworld and not have a pimp. No, don't do that eye rolling shit.
Speaker 1:This is what p conversation that we are really about to have right now. Why not? Pimping being necessary because these men be brutalizing these women.
Speaker 2:That's why you need a pimp.
Speaker 1:The pimps. That's what I'm talking about. Well, I'm not here to speak on that, I'm just saying that there is sometimes Like I gotta sell my body and then I got to get fucked up by you and give you the money.
Speaker 2:I don't think you have to get fucked. You have to give the money up, but it's part of the game. Is it better that you get the money and it just goes to me, or you get ran off by the football player that makes a million dollars a year?
Speaker 1:Girl, why didn't you have a gun? What that going to do.
Speaker 2:She's just going to what that gonna do. She's gonna make the shit, messier, you need a pimp like these. Endeavors are just necessary.
Speaker 1:This is what a man is here for to provide protection for you you should have just paid for the pussy, because now we all know that you was paying for pussy, like we wouldn't have known any of this happened. It would have all been discreet. You would have just went about your day and then you would have been out, maybe like 1500, whatever, whatever she was charging you, and then, like this wouldn't have been a topic, we wouldn't have been talking about this.
Speaker 2:Now, you, the nigga that ran off on the prostitute do you think that when you run off on the prostitute, that's great? I just think it's shoplifting it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's shoplifting, it's a violation because I, as a sex worker, they're giving you, they're giving you just that I.
Speaker 2:Then you said oh, yeah, yeah yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1:I was gonna change that because I'm not a sex worker, so I changed it to as a sex worker. They're giving you their body for exchange for money, so you not giving them the money. That is some type of sexual violation.
Speaker 2:It's not right, that's just bad business. It's not. It's bad business.
Speaker 1:If the business is my body.
Speaker 2:But the penetration happened off the consent.
Speaker 1:And the penetration is part of the transaction.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's just like if you thought a nigga had some money or he played for the league and he didn't, and popped that's just dumb bitchery.
Speaker 1:So would this be?
Speaker 2:You didn't get no money up front. You didn't do no business who you gonna go to. You can't go to the police. No, so I'm saying like you, gotta be better business Better pussy management it's a violation. Well, so is shoplifting in the same realm, of that kind of. I don't think it's like a. I've been assaulted.
Speaker 1:I think shoplifting is a violation when you do it from a small business.
Speaker 2:Now don't get me wrong. I don't want to sound crazy. I do think sex workers can be assaulted. I just think in this scenario.
Speaker 5:I don't think that's what I'm trying to use a different word.
Speaker 2:But I'm clarifying yeah.
Speaker 1:She wasn't assaulted in this scenario, but like that's definitely a violation of some sort.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just not good business. Bad business practices. But, hey, not mad at you, big dog. You got to do what you got to do sometimes.
Speaker 1:You probably didn't have it on him what? There is no, not having money on you. You got Cash App Venmo Zelle Apple Pay.
Speaker 2:Man PayPal. He probably hit it and was like that shit really with mud, like that shit really ain't worth 15. Like it really worth two. But I ain't going to do that, I'm just going to run you know what I'm saying and now Overnegotiating for this weak ass pussy.
Speaker 1:I just want to know how he got dressed. He was fully clothed, yeah, and she was still fully naked and she was nuts and she was.
Speaker 2:And then you just see like through, like all the people that she added, like slowly, like either, like canceling, like so they can't be, associated to the post.
Speaker 2:it was hilarious. It was so fucking crazy. All right, man, these spaces have been crazy this week. It's been unexpected man. So, as a WeWork representative, you know, shout out to my man, danny, from the stop. We've just been accomplishing a lot here on these Twitter spaces so we've, you know, let Rocky Thunder into our fold. She's been very cordial, very polite lady, very respectful and very generous with her time and or association, so she did a really dope thing for us. So are you familiar with Tax Stone?
Speaker 2:No, Damn that's crazy how you was in New York and then you just have like no recollection of like major events.
Speaker 1:Oh that DJ?
Speaker 2:No, he's the podcaster that got into a situation with Troy. Ave. Oh, wow you think about Star. She also was cool with Star. He got into it with Troy Aff. There was a situation that happened where somebody lost their life.
Speaker 1:Troy Aff's still in jail right.
Speaker 2:I think that he's back out.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me see.
Speaker 2:Tax Stone is in jail for what happened.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you were talking to him from jail.
Speaker 2:It was AI Tax Stone is what we've been referring to things as so.
Speaker 2:It was tax stone from ai okay so it's just how you know the conversation had okay so we got to kind of have talk and get some information through that um, and he was just explaining like just a lot of things that was going on with him, his, his mind frame, very upbeat for AI Tack Stone, and it was just a good experience, bro. And then it also brought in so many other people Like I got to talk to Tony DeCloser, so the dude who was basically trashing DJ Envy for the scam, what he was doing with Cesar Pena. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He was in there and I got to ask him some few questions. I got to get a little bit of an update. I'm going to go to Danny's video because he already edited it and I didn't get a chance to cut it up the way I wanted to. I'm going to play this right here. Hold on Everybody. Go check out Danny from the stop. That's my man. His video got good science on there.
Speaker 11:The science he be getting from my husband, influ, influential people that put up money that got over. This is I mean, it's real talk over 100 million. So nah. So don omar told me, uh, that the feds asked him not to even mention dj envy. Um moving forward.
Speaker 11:It's a cover-up happening, for sure they trying to. I mean you gotta think about it. I heart radio was the platform that a lot of got promoted off. So it's a cover-up happening for sure they're trying to. I mean you got to think about it. I heart radio was the platform that a lot of got promoted off. So it's a lot of money that that they are exposed to. As far as liability with um, their platform, so they're trying to do their best to keep, keep it off the radar. So they you know doc winners and all the guys that are associated with uh I heart I'm sure they're paying the bag to try to keep this shit off, you know, because it's a lot of money that they're going to lose. It's a lot of victims that got caught off the platform. It looks like they just keep continuing Caesar's case Caesar got a. They ran into Caesar's crib. He had a bitch on the crib Caesar got a weird case.
Speaker 11:Why is he on the crib?
Speaker 2:So, and now, what that edited part was was he was saying they found a pistol in caesar's crib, and he's he's about to say that caesar's also a felon and no arrests were made.
Speaker 11:So it's crazy. He's like. He's like watching a movie or something I don't think y'all understand.
Speaker 2:Like a lot of those questions he asked was because I was talking to him and asked him about it. So shout out to me. Uh, because everybody was like got real quiet when he got on stage but I wanted to know, like I wanted some updates because I wanted to talk about this on the show. So basically what they were saying, what tony said, was that they went in there, they went into caesar's house. Uh, they found a pistol. He's a felon, but he didn't get arrested for the gun, which is crazy in new york, new york and new jersey, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, they're gonna arrest your ass for a gun, he was telling me which and I I wasn't too sure about it and kind of like the conversation I was having with him, because he was basically saying, like they had a lot of important people involved in this and they were getting money for those people, but in the same token, there was things like this kind of stuff coming out which leaves ground for a cover up, which we kind of concluded was I heart knows that, hey, if DJ Envy goes down, we automatically have to have to go down yeah, because we are the enablers of him.
Speaker 2:So we have to disassociate ourselves from caesar. Tell a envy, you say whatever you need to say to get this nigga to go down, because you can't put it on us, because literally the shit that gave them the most legitimacy was iheart, without him being able to go on the radio, interview him, talk about his business, uh ventures. None of this explodes the way it does, none of it has the validation and, like this nigga said, tony says up to like, maybe close to like, a hundred million dollars of people's money that they were just living a life with, talking about we gonna buy a house and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1:That shit is crooked, that's yeah, because these are people who are like trying to invest this money and trying to save it and that's why I'll be trying to keep my money but you gotta spend money to make money.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, yeah, like that shit scares me yeah, I know, I mean it is what it is. It's part of a lot of this stuff, but we end up getting to a little more conversations in it because I'm gonna crash out, I know, I know I mean it is what it is, it's part of a lot of this stuff, but we end up getting to a little more conversations in it because I'm gonna crash out. I know, I know you're gonna crash out about yours.
Speaker 1:I understand like that's not and I can't do that. Yeah, I feel you I understand.
Speaker 2:See, this is like nobody at home knows. She's having like coded conversation with me right now that y'all don't really know but that's why, she's like looking at me, like this, but it's good like good the people who put us on to it are just giving me good news, so okay, nothing bad's happened yet. Yo he's motherfucking crazy. But no, he was talking, am I?
Speaker 1:not getting better at not saying shit. I shouldn't say though yeah, that was that I know Some of your best work there, yeah, but no, he was saying like I asked him about, like what did he think what a scammer was?
Speaker 2:Like? I was like, do you think a scammer is someone who does just bad, unethical business practices or do you think it's somebody who like a course seller and I just I got the answer. I expect it. You know, courses are okay. You know, I think that's one of our biggest parts in this.
Speaker 1:I think scammer would have a wider definition than just course seller. I think course selling is a type of scamming, but there's a bunch of different scams.
Speaker 2:I think it's scamming in a way, because this is what I wanted to say, and we can kind of get into some more. The same people who would sell in these courses will tell you college is a scam, right, but they sell in your education, but they're selling you a course. That is basically the same thing college would do without the degree?
Speaker 1:yeah, but you can give it to them for free, you're. If you think that college is a scam, you think that education should be free, then then why are you selling a course? You should be giving people access to this information for fucking free. Which they it? They have access to the information for free. They just have to work a little bit to like, gather it. Uh, people be lazy. You don't have to pay for these courses. Also, these people be putting these courses together. Oh how I make 100k in a month by selling this course to your dumb ass. She's not selling nothing else nothing else that's.
Speaker 2:That's why they say what was the old adage? Those who can't teach. Yeah. So the reason why you're not like that was always the funny thing to me it's like why are you focusing on selling me this?
Speaker 1:Also, we definitely going to do a podcast course we got to get that.
Speaker 2:I want your money. That's crazy I like Chanel. But no, I'm trying to figure out, don't hit the mics, give me money, give me money. Little scam right here, but this is why the thing I feel is though we don't focus in on that being like the problem. I'm not gang affiliated. Please take that. Make sure we have that.
Speaker 1:I'm not gang affiliated you are nuts, though.
Speaker 2:You know that and you're trying to take the whole conversation away from our destruction of black capitalism.
Speaker 1:Okay, go ahead, go ahead, I'm done. And you?
Speaker 2:just want to be a dilly-dallying and laughing like a misfit on your shirt.
Speaker 2:But no, I'm just being honest. I just think that's just one of the issues that we have where it's like we don't explain exploitation. Think that's just one of the issues that we have where it's like we don't explain exploitation the way we should and we think that like, oh, this kind of information is okay when it's like we're not addressing the problem. I wanted to get into the conversation deeper, but I just didn't want to be a buzzkill because I felt like I was gonna start body and shit and then niggas would be like, oh, this weirdo yeah, but you should have did it.
Speaker 1:I mean, you should have told them that your intellectual superiority is a thing.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean to me it's just the conversation wasn't vibing that way. And then I feel like I got people more comfortable to ask other people about their beefs and what was going on, because everybody was so forthcoming. We had Memphis Bleak on stage later on. I wasn't on stage with them. I didn't feel like that was going to be my environment, so I just sat and listened. But be my environment. So I just sat and listened. But they had memphis bleak. We got to talk to him.
Speaker 1:Uh, my man dub did a good job. Uh, jameson, who I've become a recent fan of, uh, they did a really good job co-hosting the space with rocky.
Speaker 2:There was big body best subscribe to our page. Yeah, well, uh, I know dub does, I'll get jameson to you dub.
Speaker 2:Fuck the rest of y'all but they had memphis bleak Big Body Bands From Mero Remember Mero from Deces and Mero he came in for a little bit. They had B-Dot Was in there for a little bit. It was pretty dope. It was interesting. He did leave Really early, though. He left like really early in the conversation. Mero, like he just came in, said what's up to tax and then left. It was really suspicious. He said he had some stuff with some really early in the conversation.
Speaker 2:Mero Like he just came in said what's up to tax and then left. Okay, it was really suspicious.
Speaker 1:He was kind of he said we had some stuff with some family, yeah but yeah, because he has lots of kids. Yeah, but it was just funny to me. It was like maybe he didn't want to be a because it was a big space and he's Dominican.
Speaker 2:it was dope. Everybody kind of got into the conversation. Memphis Bleak is funny. He is a really funny dude. I didn't know he was bald-headed under them do-rags. I thought that nigga had, he told us.
Speaker 2:Why you got them do-rags on then, because nigga was like oh, you got the waves. I know you always got the do-rags, big things. So you just gotta be able to know and, like I said, you never know when you gonna be made content. Y'all need to read the terms and conditions of these twitter apps that y'all on, because y'all cannot be mad with folks who talk about audio content. Turn your audio content into content. It's going to be crazy man. Y'all want attention. Y'all going to get it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just believe that. All right, man, we got to talk about this plumber since we're into this conversation now yeah. Did they ever announce this gentleman's name? I hate that we do this to people.
Speaker 1:It's one of these pop the balloon and find love shows. This one particularly. I am ashamed to say I am subscribed to it's with Arlette Amuli.
Speaker 2:Okay, hold on, I'm going to play the clip.
Speaker 1:I think that's the one.
Speaker 2:Hold on. So this was the clip that was probably the funniest. So this nigga is pulling up to the 20V1 or whatever the Pop the Balloon game and got his shirt all open. Shirt too small for him. He about to break out that shit with one flex Too small for him. No neck at all. Sorry, brother, no neck at all, and he has a very surly disposition. He's angry.
Speaker 8:he's a black man in america, name and age and why you ended up popping. My name is kayla, I'm 23, um, originally I was not gonna pop my balloon because I know a lot of them popped it because he was being, I guess, arrogant. But to me I like my man that's not gonna sit in every girl's face, and you know complimenting them, you know so I didn't find that offensive to me. But when they started that, what not going to sit in every girl's face and you know complimenting them, you know so I didn't find that offensive to me. But when they started that, what was going on? I'm very like I don't want to say I'm argumentative, but I don't want my man to argue back with me because then I feel like it's going to always be a problem. That was the only reason why I popped my balloon, because I was just like dang. But then with me you kind of got a little bit catty with me, you a little sassy, just a little bit.
Speaker 2:That was disrespectful.
Speaker 8:And since you want to come at everybody over here, I'm going to get at you too. You kind of look like a Ninja Turtle, you're not that cute. You need to relax. You sound like a Ninja Turtle and he is not cute. And I'm trying to be respectful, but like you was really coming out, like I didn't like it. I'm from the south and I can handle like a lot of criticism and stuff like that, but the way you was coming, you just ain't like you got it all like that I guarantee you probably got a roommate at home and it's just not giving anymore.
Speaker 8:Well, let me say this queen? I'm a licensed plumber, I live downtown. I live downtown.
Speaker 4:I stay by myself, queen, you know, and you're not even qualified to be.
Speaker 2:Talk about it.
Speaker 4:You definitely not. You know, if anything, it was one of these two, I wasn't even looking your way.
Speaker 11:You know if.
Speaker 4:I see that's fine, it's totally fine. But one thing about.
Speaker 2:So he ends up coming on social media and says that he lost his job.
Speaker 1:Man, I, really love plumbing. We're calling up to his job man, I really love plumbing. Yeah, because people were calling up to his job.
Speaker 2:I'm good at it and they got that taken away from me. Y'all are sick. They called the company 500 times. They are messing up business.
Speaker 1:He did look like a Ninja Turtle, so we know this is a lie right.
Speaker 2:We know this is a lie right.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:That he got fired from his job because of this. I because of this?
Speaker 2:I don't know, we know this is a hundred percent lie, the reason why we know it's a lie because if you're gonna fire somebody, which he probably is in management, if they're gonna fire him over this, if you're gonna fire somebody, you're gonna also take your moment to grandstand, meaning there's also going to be an associated post with this saying, just like with the white girl, hey, we don't stand for this. This is not part. There's nothing here. Nobody has produced that. He's just saying that for clout, like I don't understand why. It's not that he wants to get into social media well, yeah, obviously that's why he was there.
Speaker 2:It's a hundred percent a game that he's doing.
Speaker 1:This is for one thing too, if you're a plumber let's be honest, I think he also talked about the date that he ended up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the girl him and the girl didn't even make it outside the outside no, it was like five minutes the one that he won the one he selected, yeah but um, it doesn't even like when you're a plumber and you're really good at your job, you don't even really have to be with a company to make a living wage no, so you can be completely free, yeah, so the fact that if you're any good licensed plumber, you're going to find work wherever, regardless.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be that hard for you. There's not going to be a lot of people running around to do that kind of dirty work. You're going to be straight. I feel like this is all just a game. He's just playing into the game.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's going to become that popular. I don't like the way he looks at all. He reminds me of that dancing gorilla, nigga like just too big.
Speaker 2:I think if he doesn't do nothing crazy big in like an unattractive way, he could definitely do a kevin samuels type shit.
Speaker 1:Put that nigga in a suit and then he just add, like the exercise and shit into his he definitely has to do content that appeals to men because, like his whole aesthetic, that body type, like that is that's for the male gaze, that's not for the female gaze so okay, let's get into why do women hate when a man is disciplined and cares about his body? Because that's not. That's not it, it's the gigantic muscly men what do y'all think like?
Speaker 2:like the rock. Can I ask you a question when you see that, do you think like caveman, brutality type like, because why isn't that appealing to women?
Speaker 1:it's physically not appealing, it's not I'm saying, but why? It's. It just does not look good visually to the eye it has nothing. I don't. I don't know if it for anybody else has anything else attached to it about like what this man is like, but I just think that, like the whole, like if you have the like shoulder muscles traps that connect to your neck. It makes your neck look shorter, it makes you look like you can't breathe. It's it's just unattractive and I feel like women, like a slimmer um pudgier fit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like us women are horrible yeah, like I feel like we.
Speaker 1:We definitely prefer a dad bod or like a slim, skinny guy over like that big old muscular man. You can. There are definitely muscular types that women absolutely lust over. You know, like the, the michael b jordan's, like the. You know, like the kind of triangular shape athletic firm slim athletic. But if you're like boom, boom, boom, I do steroids. Like who is that for?
Speaker 2:that's not for us the reason why I asked that is because, like, to get that kind of body, you have to take chances, meaning, like you have to be a risk taker, even if you are using steroids, and then also you have to be disciplined. Like you have to be consistent. Like to me, all the qualities that women would say they want in a man would be reflective in somebody whose body looks like that.
Speaker 1:Because that doesn't happen, because you want it you have to have an eating disorder and body dysmorphia to get there.
Speaker 2:Those are another way. That's another way to get there, like you could say that.
Speaker 1:Discipline and hard work too. You could say that eating disorder could look like discipline to somebody else, because you only eat broccoli, chicken breast and one cup of brown rice every day. That's discipline, that's an eating disorder debatable like if you're obsessed and you count because eating disorder means you're saying if you count every single calorie and you're obsessed with what you eat and it stresses you out, you have an eating disorder I don't.
Speaker 1:I think that there's a little bit different, I think I think there are a lot of bodies, because by that argument every, every diet is an eating disorder it is every um. There are a lot of bodybuilders and like fitness, health people for sure who fully just have or body dysmorphia. Morph is a real con, yeah and then I think that's what that is too, because why do you think you need that many muscles and you're a regular man?
Speaker 2:because he's a plumber.
Speaker 1:You need a strength down there it's because he's five four yeah, he was short only short niggas ever feel like they need to get that big. It's because they have some type of napoleon complex and they feel like they need to make up for the length. So they get wider, and we don't want that. Only gay men want that that's crazy only gay men want that that's insane and I don't even know if gay men fully want that, because I feel like gay men also prefer the slim athletic build I think they like the washboard abs a little bit.
Speaker 1:I think he's somebody that abs, yes, but what else is it? You can have washboard abs is attractive, but like is it attached to a giant gorilla of a man?
Speaker 2:Well, he is a gorilla of a man just a smaller gorilla.
Speaker 1:That is unattractive.
Speaker 2:He's like a chimp Like a chimp.
Speaker 1:He's like a little person, gorilla, a little gorilla.
Speaker 2:A mcgrilla. That's eight, that's eight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gorilla, a mcgrilla, that's like. That's like, yeah, like his. His build is just, and I've seen women talk about this over and, over and over again and I've seen men be surprised at at the types of men that women like and hey, man look at this. This is what it comes to damson edris.
Speaker 2:This is what it comes down to does he have muscles?
Speaker 1:I don't think he has a muscle.
Speaker 2:If you want to get the praise for your efforts as a man, you just clearly got to fuck a dude, because he's the only one who's going to appreciate it. These women won't. They want to control us. They want us to be weak and flabby so they can take advantage of us. And it goes into something else I saw on the internet. So they they talked about uh like before you. It was like next time you think someone's a gay man, ask yourself. Maybe he just likes white women I saw that and I gagged.
Speaker 1:He said that um, that's not what he said. He said that, uh, gay men and men who strictly like white women give off the same energy I was thinking about that, it's hard to differentiate whether this man is gay or whether he just likes white women. And then I thought about it, it's for real and I was like, holy shit, you're right so how hard did you think about it?
Speaker 2:because I thought about it really hard.
Speaker 1:I thought about it really hard. I thought about it really hard, so hard that I brought it up to two of my other coworkers who were black women, and as soon as I said that to them, they were like Was there any accountability, though?
Speaker 2:What type of see? That's why you wasn't thinking. You wasn't thinking it as hard as I was thinking, because what does that have to do with you?
Speaker 1:You think that black men have to present themselves to be more masculine?
Speaker 2:yes, when they like black, yes I think that white women do not require the same level of masculinity performance that black women do, and it results in looking like oh, because he didn't have to perform like that. It just looks like he's gay to you that might be valid it's. It's the truth. Y'all are toxic. Y'all have a toxic view of masculinity and then hate when a toxic brand of femininity is put on the earth.
Speaker 1:Why do you think black women have a toxic view of masculinity?
Speaker 2:Because that masculinity has been something that's been deprived from them, either from not growing up with a father in the home, either being assaulted or hurt by a man Like good. Masculinity is something that's been deprived from a lot of women, and so y'all have to put this hyper-masculinity is something that's been deprived from a lot of women, and so y'all have to put this hyper masculinity on things to make it worth y'all sales, because y'all can't just fall into a guy Fuck him, he's got you have. He has to be worthy, he has to be, he has to have all of these X and Y things. Yeah, you have to trust somebody first.
Speaker 2:It's not even about trust. You don't even trust the. Be a fucking sleazeball. But because he has something, he now falls into a more masculine approach because he's super tough and aggressive now he doesn't get locked up because he's trying to be super tough and aggressive for the women like it's a poison it's a poisonous idea.
Speaker 2:It's true, though. It's true like that kind of aggressive, like when you look up dudes and they get into altercation, you know it's the one thing they're thinking about. Oh, did the women see? Did the girl I like see this happen, like that's the first thing on a nigga's brain, on some shit like that. And it stems from the idea that this black woman, and also, too, a lot of black men, were raised by women that it's comical that you're trying to say that toxic masculinity is something that like only no, it's not.
Speaker 2:I'm saying that the reason why y'all think that those men who like white women are gay is because y'all require and put a higher standard on masculinity, meaning y'all implement toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1:Why do we not generally think that all white men are gay?
Speaker 2:if that's the thing, y'all do that, don't act like it, don't act like there's not a common misconception. There is a common misconception between a gay white man and a white man in general. There's gay white dudes even play gay. They touch each other's balls. They make all these jokes, they put peanut butter on each other's dicks and shit like that and let the dog lick it. Yes, white nigga, white nigga. That's called white boy humor have you ever heard of?
Speaker 2:white boy humor. I'm not, I'm not keeping track of where. Have you heard of white boy humor before? We'll slow down. Have you heard of white boy humor before? No, so white boy humor is a brand of humor that is somewhat homo ironic. Ironic. They play with each other. They touch each other's ass. They'll slap each other's balls. White guys play like that. They do play gay. So yes, that is true to what you're saying. A lot of people, when they see white guys, they won't know is he gay or not.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I just y'all have the highest. Oh, I'm sorry no, go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just gonna say y'all have the highest quality for being masculinity for y'all okay it's a lot to think about I just think, just think it's comical that you're trying to place the blame on black women when, like our examples of masculinity come from who?
Speaker 2:Media.
Speaker 1:The men in our lives. But sometimes there's a lack of that, Like it comes from the men in our lives, but there's sometimes there's a lack of that, so then you don't Like it comes from the men in our lives.
Speaker 2:Yes, but then there's sometimes there's a lack of that, and then you create your own identity of masculinity and then you apply that to the men in your life. So if you have a, lack.
Speaker 1:You're saying this like it's just a regular, like it's a common thing that most black women don't have a masculine, like energy or statistically speaking, in their lives, is it? Is that a thing still, statistically speaking? I don't think that's a thing still. I'll look it up.
Speaker 2:Father still in home. I mean, they have a lot more involved.
Speaker 1:I'll look it up. You continue talking, and I'll just say it, and then it's just again.
Speaker 2:I just think it're a lot more involved in life. I'll look it up. You continue talking and I'll look it up. I'm just saying, and then it's just again. I just think it's irrational, we even damn it, we even think it for Asian men too, asian men, go through the same thing.
Speaker 2:Unless they dress and perform like a traditional black guy, most women, especially black women, won't think that those guys are straight. I just think y'all just have a higher threshold of masculinity than any other group of women do, and that's why that I don't think so.
Speaker 1:There are other women white women, asian women, bunch of other women who literally have specific standards for their men that are so rigid, like it's not just black women that are doing that, and I think it's really fucking damaging, and I'm also surprised that you think that black women have these specific standards that are too rigid or um, too toxic in masculinity versus other women. That's not the fucking case.
Speaker 2:I think that I think that there's something to that, there's some credence to that I don't think so and I think it's concerning that you think that why when I've experienced it from multiple black women in my life and outside.
Speaker 2:I've seen it.
Speaker 2:I've literally been in places where the softer of us was treated like a fucking royalty when we went around the the caucasian women and then he was the dork when he was hanging around the black people, to the point where he didn't even want to hang out with the black people.
Speaker 2:Like I've seen those dynamics happen where, like this nigga is like the biggest bro when he's hanging with his white friends and they big him up, they talk all good about him, at least in front of him, and when he gets around black people, he's the joke, he's the one we one we're always making fun of, the one we're always pulling their card. I've just seen that happen in our dynamics and I think it has a large part. It's not just women in general, but I just think this conversation and it's noticed by black women because y'all have a higher ranking or grade for what it is to be masculine. That's all. It even makes me think of this one girl I used to follow on Instagram. She does body building type stuff. The dude that she's with is a gorilla looking white guy.
Speaker 2:Big back big arms, all sorts of stuff. There's just a high marker for masculinity. I know you don't care about.
Speaker 1:There's just too much numbers to read through.
Speaker 2:Did you see the Lil Fizz fight. No, that nigga fucked up so bad. Oh my God, nigga, you embarrassed every light-skinned nigga on the fucking planet. So he was on a podcast and he just got into a little altercation with a gentleman who was twice his size where he fucked up first. It was so many problems in this.
Speaker 2:He, he, he starts getting into it first move, he messes up, he stands up first. So now you've already showed you're aggressive and now everybody in the room is expecting aggression from you. So now he has to talk shit the whole time. He don't look like he can back up a thing. The, the dude, is sitting down, not scared the entire confrontation.
Speaker 2:So in my mind, another part where you messed up, fizz, is you didn't attack while the iron was hot. The man was open, he was a victim, he was ready, he was sitting there right there. You could jump on him. Your best time you got to get him to. When you're a small guy or guys bigger than you that you're fighting, your best bet is to get him to the ground first, because then now you have leverage, you can go. He never took advantage. He had a homeboy with him.
Speaker 2:That was, I guess, part. Like the, the host of the show. He's talking hey, bro, you letting this man talk to me like that other nigga, like bro, this ain't loving hip-hop, it ain't gonna end for you. The same way, ain't nobody here to say, cut. Like he talking big boy shit, yeah. So then the homeboy moves out the way. So I'm thinking to myself this is where you attack, because this is no other way that this is gonna go down. He moves over too slow. This big motherfucker stands up. Start towering over this, nigga. Why, fed? Start pushing him, nigga. You gotta take him pushing him, nigga. You got to take him to the ground you have to punch him in the jaw.
Speaker 2:He grabs fizz like a little boy by both arms and does a fucking bull rush to the corner, taking fizz off the ground into the corner. The the video that was circulating was so crazy. Right, it says little fizz in a fight, uh, at a during a show or interview. You don't see little fizz to the last three seconds of the video. That nigga got hemmed up in the corner and almost lost his fucking red light. These red niggas can't be. We can't't operate like this. We have to be smarter and more intelligent. Fizz, you ain't no fighter, you a bitch. How could you get his ass beat?
Speaker 1:Oh, mario, probably would have beat your ass if he wanted to, if he really wanted to, if you, as again.
Speaker 2:But he didn't want to waste the energy High key If you are ever the smallest person in an altercation face to face, you have to attack off rip.
Speaker 1:You can't do that and you gotta attack low if they hire because you got a lower center of gravity man if he was in a chair.
Speaker 2:I'm bomb, rushing you right in the chair, I'm taking you to the ground and I'm trying to choke you until you pass out and then I might kick you if I can get up. But Fizz you, disappointed all light skins. You let this big gorilla looking nigga fucking destroy you. Look like fucking Miller Gorilla. Stomp that nigga out. It's fucking nuts. Though Horrible shit, I do got some more hate. I got to get off. Jason Tatum, you are the corniest light-skinned nigga. Too much corny, weak, light-skinned shit behavior has been happening this week. I don't know if you saw this nigga Tatum. This motherfucker copied everybody's celebration speech after he won a championship. He was copying the women. He was copying Kanye. He tried to act like he was kevin garden. It was disgusting. He did get your girl pregnant, though oh yeah, congratulations um.
Speaker 1:You know they're married.
Speaker 2:They've been married since 2020 okay, I remember seeing them together on like a boat or something they're they're very proud of private, about their relationship.
Speaker 1:They've posted like four pictures.
Speaker 2:See, that's what you do though. You find her, you make her quit her career and you get her pregnant. Shout out to you young nigga.
Speaker 1:I don't think he made her quit her career. I think her career made her quit.
Speaker 2:She had a bop when she got with him right she had one bop. See, that's what you do, that's what you want to find, though, the one with one bop.
Speaker 1:That's the best one to get, though and then like because her confidence in the game after the back and forth shit with jaquis and him doing her song better it was kind of he does that everybody's song though. Yeah, but she didn't receive it well, and then after that we never heard from her again. You made the right decision, baby girl.
Speaker 2:Just just just get a rich nigga, just get pregnant by a rich nigga. You straight, yeah, you got one little kid in front of us, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for Jordan Woods to get pregnant. That's all you gotta do next. I think she too, birdie in the head.
Speaker 2:I think she's very birdie in the head. She would have been got off the pill or whatever she on If she wanted to get knocked up by her. She would have trapped him. So you gotta it's better Don't do the Jordan Woods type, because she's still got too much ambition. Ella May, the industry done robbed it from her. Perfect, perfect for marriage, yeah, perfect for being a superstar marriage. Get the ex-R&B not the current R&B girl.
Speaker 2:For real. All right, I think we got everything on my list Was there anything else you wanted to touch on?
Speaker 1:I do, but I'm so tired child. Yeah, we had to start late because of the kendrick show. Yeah, um, really quickly. I just wanted to get into this because I don't know. I've been thinking about it. I was watching um. Hold on, let me unlock my ipad first before I start talking. Okay, so I've been watching perfect match on netflix.
Speaker 1:Um, the first two bashes came out and the thing that stuck out to me most was tolu's experience on perfect match and I just it just made me want to talk about like black women's experience on these dating reality tv shows, because they're generally just used as like placeholders for like whatever, whatever the guy wants to do next, no, so like um in perfect match specifically, like somebody will like match with tolu just because they have, like nobody else to match with and they just like want to stay in the house. She's gorgeous, she's bubbly. Like it doesn't matter, like what these black women look like. They're always like, literally like last thoughts on these shows and it's disheartening to watch as a black woman. But then, at the same time, why do you think black women keep going on these shows?
Speaker 2:because they want attention.
Speaker 1:Like I was watching somebody I forget who it was, but he was like basically, netflix casts black men who only date white women and black women who only date white men, and they know exactly what they're doing and that's why you're seeing these things play out how they play out on these shows. On perfect match, specifically, like tolu's first match was um dom and he hated her guts the whole time. This was her his second season. The first season he only matched with white women, like brunettes, like that's his type, um, and then he matched, she matched with chris and then she's just like talking with both of them. She was just talking about how like electrifying the connection was and this and that, and blah, blah, blah and it's just like girl but does it ever feel like that with them?
Speaker 2:like that that's what they kind of. It seems like they're there just all for that kind of attention. It's not really to find like a real connection and it just also seems like they're there just all for that kind of attention. It's not really to find like a real connection and it just also seems like they kind of go after people who would fall in line with that, like let's just be honest there there are, um, so clinton and uche from are you the one like season two from mad long ago are married now.
Speaker 1:They've been together for like a decade. He's, they look like us, um, and then, um, there are two couples from love island uk that are black women. There's one black woman with a black man and one black woman with a white man and they're still together, have been together for years. So there are black women who go on these shows who do successfully find love, but it's so rare it's either they're embarrassed completely or they find a lifelong partner that they stay with for multiple years.
Speaker 2:But you also got to think about these kind of folks that are going on these reality tv shows what their like priorities are.
Speaker 2:Like it's about the aesthetic, it's about being in particular rooms. Like you value this level of success a certain way, and this level of success has traditionally treated darker skinned women as the lesser of the choices. Like that's. To me it just seems like it's. There isn't any way that you really could create a product that you would want, unless that these folks would probably be less talented or maybe less motivated in a way because it's not something they really would want to do there is one dark skinned black woman's experience on a dating reality tv shows that stands out and that's melinda.
Speaker 1:Melinda from are you the one I think season one or two? Um, not, are you the one I'm too hot to handle? Um, she was on this season's uh, perfect match. So, melinda, she was like a fan favorite, like dark-skinned black woman, like the her experience on. The first time I saw her on reality tv, everybody wanted her. All the girls wanted to be her. Like, it was a completely different, like archetype for like a black woman on one of these shows I was like, how is she doing this like? And then she went on to become a host on another Netflix show and now this is her third time on a Netflix show. So, like, she's obviously like a Netflix darling. They loved her personality. She got into an argument with one of the girls on this show it doesn't matter what it's about in the confessional or during, yeah, in her confessional she's like I'm not about to let her make me the angry black woman.
Speaker 1:I worked hard to not be the angry black woman. And then I was thinking about it whole time. I'm thinking that Melinda's just being carefree, melinda whole. No, she was carefully, meticulously um crafting her image so that she didn't look like the angry black woman, so that she looks carefree and bubbly. She might be that, yes, but she probably has to lean into that more so so that, like she's always aware of what she looks like and the fact that she can't raise her voice this much, she didn't raise her voice during that argument. Francesca was yelling at her.
Speaker 1:She didn't yell, yeah she knows it's a win-lose situation when you're arguing against a white woman, she's like no, we're not doing this. Like you're not gonna make me look like I'm an angry black woman. I'm trying to be a girl's girl. So like, even when I think that a dark-skinned black woman is having such an easy time on one of these shows, no, she's over here planning things, working three times as hard to get half as much.
Speaker 2:I blame armor rosa they, she made rosa was a iconic bitch she made the aesthetic of being the white man's bed wench popping yeah mainstream yeah, she yeah she's talking about a that's, that was her aesthetic.
Speaker 5:That was her aesthetic with trump, even though they didn't. There hasn't been rumors of them having.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think that was her aesthetic, was like you, even though there hasn't been rumors of them having been physical. No, I don't think that was her aesthetic was like you're the confident black woman that's puppeting these inferior white men type thing yeah.
Speaker 9:That was like her goal All right, I think that was good man, good show.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Proud of you. You did good. Leslie Arnon this time around. I think that was good. We'll work on that and get you some coffee next time we do it. It's late, yeah, so you can be.
Speaker 1:I'm usually fully asleep by now, so energized, yeah, man. Everybody hates. Chris announced the animated show. I just wanted to say that I don't want that because the mother on that show was terrible. I hated her. She's a terrible fucking person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like in real life. You don't like. No, the. The mom on the, the character, I like tisha campbell, tisha arnold, tishina, tishina tanisha, tishina. Tisha arnold, tisha arnold, whatever. Um, and I also think terry, terry cruz and chris rock, um, as a combination of 2024 is a nasty, nasty, coon combination.
Speaker 2:I just think that's funny that you wouldn't like the mom. I would think that you would aspire she was a horrible person.
Speaker 1:Her man was working two jobs and she literally would get on his ass non-stop. The one episode where he got a credit card to do a little something, something for himself, and he he didn't want her to use the credit card, she went out, ran it up. He had to work even extra hard. That man was hard working as fuck and all she did was be lazy. My man got two jobs, quit every single job she ever had, bitch. Can you help this man?
Speaker 2:you wouldn't okay, that's you like.
Speaker 1:Y'all both decided to have three kids while y'all are poor. Both of y'all are gonna have to work. This is not an option.
Speaker 2:I would just imagine that if, if it was like that, not necessarily the two jobs part, but if it was like that with us and she was just like such a bully.
Speaker 1:As a mom to chris, like like, sometimes I get a little too touchy about these things, you know I can see I didn't like her as a mom and as a person. She was just, and then she was like this angry black woman archetype. She was always mad. I was like bro, calm the fuck down. You forgot this is a chris rock show, right yeah, that's why I'm I hate that it's coming back.
Speaker 2:That's why it's just hilarious because chris rock has only made content, like we said before, that white people would enjoy. Yeah, so, but I liked everybody. Not everybody, I mean everybody hates chris it's called everybody hates chris again.
Speaker 1:Everybody still hates chris. That's called Everybody Hates Chris Again. Everybody still hates Chris. That's fucked up.
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