What happens when you mix a dash of laughter, a sprinkle of controversy, and a hearty dose of real-life drama? That's the blend we've concocted for you in this episode! We start with a touching yet humorous dialogue between Charleston, TS Madison, and Jess Hilarious, segueing into an emotional tale about a middle school crush transitioning from male to female. As we unpack the societal pressures and fashion struggles many trans women face, we also confront the stark reality of sex work in the trans community, offering a heartfelt exploration that's as enlightening as it is entertaining.
Hold onto your seats as we then shift to the social media battlefield where Charleston White's fiery feud with Rick Ross's baby mama, Tia Kemp, takes center stage. We dissect the ins and outs of their online clash. Then, we dive into the murky waters of Rick Ross's child support escapades, comparing his situation to other celebrity dramas like Shaq and Shawnee O'Neal. The tension heightens as we examine the tragic death of Foolio, his rivalry with Young N Ace, and the profound impact on the hip-hop community.
But that's not all—our episode is a rollercoaster of insights into the hip-hop scene's new faces, the cancellation of Megan Thee Stallion's European tour, and the influence of social media on celebrities. We critique the XXL Freshman Class of 2024, celebrate unique artists like Lay Banks and Cash Cobain, and ponder the global hurdles Black artists face. Wrapping up, we tackle the ethical dilemmas in Black media, the complex racial dynamics in Hollywood, and even some juicy celebrity gossip. Tune in for a wild ride through the multifaceted world of entertainment!
What happens when you mix a dash of laughter, a sprinkle of controversy, and a hearty dose of real-life drama? That's the blend we've concocted for you in this episode! We start with a touching yet humorous dialogue between Charleston, TS Madison, and Jess Hilarious, segueing into an emotional tale about a middle school crush transitioning from male to female. As we unpack the societal pressures and fashion struggles many trans women face, we also confront the stark reality of sex work in the trans community, offering a heartfelt exploration that's as enlightening as it is entertaining.
Hold onto your seats as we then shift to the social media battlefield where Charleston White's fiery feud with Rick Ross's baby mama, Tia Kemp, takes center stage. We dissect the ins and outs of their online clash. Then, we dive into the murky waters of Rick Ross's child support escapades, comparing his situation to other celebrity dramas like Shaq and Shawnee O'Neal. The tension heightens as we examine the tragic death of Foolio, his rivalry with Young N Ace, and the profound impact on the hip-hop community.
But that's not all—our episode is a rollercoaster of insights into the hip-hop scene's new faces, the cancellation of Megan Thee Stallion's European tour, and the influence of social media on celebrities. We critique the XXL Freshman Class of 2024, celebrate unique artists like Lay Banks and Cash Cobain, and ponder the global hurdles Black artists face. Wrapping up, we tackle the ethical dilemmas in Black media, the complex racial dynamics in Hollywood, and even some juicy celebrity gossip. Tune in for a wild ride through the multifaceted world of entertainment!
But no, I've seen that before. But I think Charleston is just hilarious with this.
Speaker 2:They're both funny people who I think it's really. I think it's hilarious to watch them go back and forth. I felt the same way when TS Madison and Jess Hilarious were going back and forth. I was like y'all are both funny. Regardless of who ends up being the victor in this beef, I'm going to be entertained. You thinking that Meg would do well outside of the us is short-sighted and you don't know black people as well as you think you do, because african americans and the rest of the diaspora have completely different tastes.
Speaker 3:I feel like yeah, in relation to what white people were thinking when you bring up shit that I said last week.
Speaker 2:I don't fucking even remember what the fuck I had for lunch.
Speaker 1:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives.
Speaker 5:What the fuck do you think your fucking ass is doing on that podcast now?
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Speaker 1:That's it All, right now you said you had something for us services. That's it all right, man, you said you had something for us. What was? What's going on?
Speaker 2:wake it up so um, there was this guy I had a crush on in middle school.
Speaker 1:That's this.
Speaker 2:You've already just started this off and it was like you know, I wasn't like super popular, he was super popular, so like we weren't on the same social circles whatsoever, which was cool. I'm scrolling through Instagram. She is trans now the switch up.
Speaker 2:That's what it is, the switch up and then like Forgive me the amount of times my horny middle school brain like wanted to see this man like his tool for real. And now, unfortunately, I think that she has had to result to sex work, because that's what a lot of trans women have to do. She'd be posting in like a thong, but she still got the meat, oh for sure.
Speaker 1:Especially if she got out.
Speaker 2:I was like this isn't how I wanted to see this yo, that's violent.
Speaker 1:That's violent honestly. That's violent behavior. You know what's the crazy thing is?
Speaker 2:I still follow her because I'm like girl, I understand the plight of the trans woman. Do what you gotta do like. That was mad. Long ago I had a crush on the boy version of you. Like now I'm just like a girly girl, a girly pop, trying to support my, my girly pop.
Speaker 1:But now like the joint is probably more like hormoned out. If you think did, was they ever on the hormones? I think you showed me a picture of them. I think that that was one of the things like no hormones right?
Speaker 2:no, because Is that a flex in the community?
Speaker 1:Yeah, came out looking like this no hormones, all I had was the attachment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like she already from jump had a like more feminine leaning face.
Speaker 1:See, like when you say stuff like that, it makes me feel like that's how you feel now, and then you project that onto me. I like pretty boys, you think that's what I am no is that what you? Are? You lying?
Speaker 2:it feels like no feels like you're lying now you don't give off pretty boy energy like even when I had a crush on him back at like he was the like he went shopping all the time like hang out with hung out with all the like girls that put that shit on. How could I not? He came out as gay before he came out as trans.
Speaker 1:Was he one of the ones that wore the big collared shirt?
Speaker 2:She Was she I'm talking about when he was a he Okay, oh no, because that's not the era that I was in middle school in, and I was living in New York also, so we didn't do that.
Speaker 1:I felt like that was like mostly a New York thing in my big collars like the big. Like you know, I'd be a button up and have like a obnoxiously big collar.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you meant like the polos, that, like really oversized polos with the big ass.
Speaker 1:No, not that one, the ones where it's like a button up but the collar looks obnoxiously big. No, that was that.
Speaker 2:I've seen a lot of gay guys pull that off I don't remember that being a thing at all, but he was just when he was a. He fly as hell probably one of the flyest dudes in the school I mean, it was genetic obviously obviously he had that shit in him or she had that shit in her. She do not be putting that shit on as a girl, though she does you know, she don't have no it is tougher dressing and being fly as a woman.
Speaker 1:It's way more difficult.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like just think about how we get ready for the show as a man, all you got to do is match your shirt to your shoes.
Speaker 2:You done, you put that shit on Us. We have textures, shapes, proportions and all of that stuff to take into consideration when it comes to putting together an outfit. If you know how to put together an outfit, when it comes to putting together an outfit if you know how to put together an outfit. Well, clearly you're transphobic because, you didn't give her no tips. Tips, yeah, she not sucking my dick, yeah. But you could have been like hey, girl, she don't have a link.
Speaker 1:You should try the Fendi 6. That's good for your shade. She is selling her body on the streets.
Speaker 2:You don't think she wants a good shade. Fendi, fenty, fenty. Okay. Okay, I thought you were referring to some luxury retail item.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I meant like the.
Speaker 2:Nah, she know how to do her makeup. Okay, it's the clothes that are questionable, but that might be because she's a woman of the night.
Speaker 1:They didn't oh well, I was gonna say they maybe wasn't thinking about someone with her proportions no, she's tiny I mean male tiny and female tiny is still different male tiny.
Speaker 2:She might be like two sizes bigger than me right now, like not big, but yeah, crazy all right, let's get into some music. Cause I might do it Also with this shit. I have a ticket on me right now.
Speaker 3:Ap scale it quarter million, that's $250. Got less than nothing for these niggas. This shit business now Can't get a truckload to your front door. Nigga, pick a town Bitch. Help me start my day off right. Give me top in the morning. The snowflake, her head, gray, should be sponsored by Tony, like a junkie in the trap where the smoke get out, want it.
Speaker 3:Numbers that stink, a song from Drake. Only thing they got on me. All this shit soundin' the same won't take it back over Timberland. Step on these niggas like roaches. Get out the way my niggas scoot over. Fuck these rappers. These niggas ain't got it Really been hatin'. That's all. It just showed me when is your bun? That's all that you owe me. Where is your bun? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, skrrt, skrrt, talk, fnf the nymph, just a ball with the bobbins, with the wide kicks.
Speaker 3:I'm never home. I barely drive it, currently headed to an island on the private Sneaky link, the only option. I can't be your man. I might fall asleep inside you fuckin' on these ends. If it's good, you stand a week. Hoe ain't no one. I stand Kidnapped. Chase this plan B with this high C baby. I can't get trapped. Go y'all to carry the scraps. She matching my fly. We should nail it and up we twinning Diamonds and pearls. Eight at the bottom this rose. Go heat in my mouth, rage a bit. I can show you a meal Spaghetti. I'm a real certified drifter, kivvy. These niggas really look bitty Daily day. I'm pure to switch it.
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Speaker 3:We don't know how to act. We're throwing bird hands up. I'm two meals up RP. I've been in Houston for about a week. I chopped that screw to free these niggas talking and watching my page. They get their moves from me. Clones spend six thousand on LV kicks. I call them Louis P On the tables of a broke hoe. I got them racks on my go. Yo Know I don't fuck with you like that nigga, so don't come and hop in my photo.
Speaker 4:I done put up that white shit Outro Music. I'll see you next time. It's all why he won. Can't control.
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Speaker 1:I can help you save time, money help you and your loved ones see the world. All right. You're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and beautiful and magnificent co-host, miss Reality. Hi guys, we are back at it in full effect. Had a good week, man, a lot of good stuff that's been going on, a lot of positivity. I want to give a lot of support to everybody who showed love to us this week, sent us some good and positive messages. You really reinvigorated the squad.
Speaker 2:It's been going in a positive direction. We're only moving like up, we're only getting better. It's kind of like scary and it makes me nervous, but it's like a really good feeling at the same time.
Speaker 1:So we appreciate you guys very much. No, for sure, for sure. We would not be nothing without you guys most definitely All right man we got to get into it. Shout out to Hinge. That's where we met. They need to give us a sponsorship.
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Speaker 1:We earned it All right, so let's get into some things. Man, we got to kind of start with our boy Charleston White. He back at it. That's your boy, that's really my guy. I don't really like everything he stands for, like in its totality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he be talking about beating bitches a lot, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it's a lot of it that I just don't really vibe with internally. But just as a character the man got it figured out. But just as a character the man got it figured out Like he just understands this content space in a way that either he doesn't have shame so it doesn't really affect him, or he just doesn't really care about the blowback, because I couldn't imagine Charleston White being my dad.
Speaker 2:He has children.
Speaker 1:Yeah, remember the Ghillie video we talked about.
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he's like I could talk to my son.
Speaker 1:So I mean, like what?
Speaker 2:I feel like he. If I were a character of that, that nature, I would probably let my kids know that there's a difference between the person that you see online and the person who was your father, but that should I play a character?
Speaker 1:at the end of day, it's not gonna matter though, because they're gonna see that's what's gonna be being popular and that's what's gonna get your name in the. In the algorithm is the bs so trying to be like oh well, that's just, that's just who I am on the internet is that ain't gonna fly so what has he been up to now?
Speaker 2:what is charleston white doing so?
Speaker 1:right now he has a beef with uh rick ross's, uh baby mama Tina or Tia Kemp.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, what's her name? Champ Tia Kemp.
Speaker 1:Kemp Yo so Tia Kemp. So him and her have been beefing the teeth lady the veneer lady. So this man been going at her. He got shirts for sale talking about wanted better baby mama, a bitter baby mama, teeth and all, so he kind of went off what you was just saying.
Speaker 2:It would have been A better picture If she had her teeth showing Her mouth is fully closed In that picture.
Speaker 1:Like you, niggas, think you be eating, but you don't be eating at all Like Alright, so I'm gonna play A little clip from what's been going on.
Speaker 5:Hey, charleston White, the way I'm finna line. I like the way I'm finna get you together on YouTube. Oh man, I've been waiting on this, cuz you turn down that mother fucking goddamn seat on a podcast. Fuck boy, why?
Speaker 3:you ain't gonna see the auntie's on the podcast.
Speaker 5:Nigga, we had you right there, she wouldn't go back now. Bitch, I know you ain't talking about Yonty. Hey man, y'all better go subscribe to my YouTube now, because when I come back it's on YouTube. Fuck boy, I'm finna. Give you the business you done. Met your mother, fucking match.
Speaker 2:She don't give a fuck about what this nigga think for real. She's using this to get more subscribers. This is just a clout thing she's just getting Charleston White fans to come to her side, can we just like really kind of do an analysis on this a little bit.
Speaker 1:She said youtube at least five times. She's literally taking his stick, his stick. Yeah, I understand, I see how she's talking to the camera yeah inflection. She's really trying to be the female charleston white I don't think that like.
Speaker 2:I think they're probably just from certain areas where black people have that inflection, because that's not a Charleston white thing. No, I'm not saying that. That's just a black people thing, so that's not something you can get off.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's a thing at all. His is more directly for him, so hold on.
Speaker 6:I think this was a video that started it off right here I'll say this Any black woman that got a baby by a black man that'll get online every day and go after your kid's father. You have to remember the things that you say about your children's father, your children's mother. You picked them, you laid down with that person. So as you talk about your children's mother and your father, you're actually talking about your children, because they have the same chromosomes.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on. In this video he has a bump on his. Like chin he probably got fucked up.
Speaker 2:Do you got the herp? Oh, a small bump, I thought you meant a big bump, I don't know. It's on his other video too he probably got the herp. He's fucking with Brittany Renner she done, fucked everything.
Speaker 1:This is all a legend.
Speaker 6:Don't be trying. If he did have the herp a little bit, all right. So this is his response to that last video we played with her. I'm not fit to argue and go back and forward with no bitch. With porcelain, tartar, teeth, teeth. Okay, that hoe got them, bitch. Come on, hoe, take them, take them, take them veneers out your mouth and do that tongue like you do. Let's shit up, bitch. You look like a you're snake hoe. That's why your tongue whizzes like a lizard bitch.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to be able to keep this.
Speaker 1:I done, said what I said when granddaddy say something he don't want all you to know. You, a bitch ass, nigga Charleston that was smart.
Speaker 2:He was probably just playing music. I don't think he was that intelligent. No, I don't.
Speaker 1:Basically playing music. I don't think he's, you don't think he was that intelligent. No, I don't. So, man, basically these two kind of coming out. We could kind of get into the gist of what they're talking about. Now, we can kind of talk about them as personalities, but what do you feel like that? Do you feel like she's kind of overdoing it when she's talking about rick ross tina?
Speaker 2:no, because tia um, we barely like she did the the like double xl magazine covers and stuff like that mad long ago. But as far as, like my generation people knowing who she is, we have not known who she is until just now and her son is on his way to college, so she didn't publicly start talking shit about this man yeah, until he was grown until her kid was of college age.
Speaker 2:So I think it's completely fine yeah I mean I think that they only have one child together, and he's on his way to college.
Speaker 1:And I think also, too, what it was what really started everything with her, with this particular incident.
Speaker 2:The photo shoot with 50 Cent.
Speaker 1:No, I'm talking about recently, like what recently sparked, wiped it up Because I guess he, rick Ross, was celebrating he didn't have to pay child support.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he celebrated that he paid his last payment of child support and she was like she took a nigga, he's he's going to high school. I mean, he's going to college. Like I could extend that shit if I want to, but I'm making money now so I'm not gonna do that because nobody needs your shit anymore. Ain't nobody thinking about you, but um, I I think it's weird to celebrate the fact that you're not on child support for one child anymore when you have 70, 11 other kids.
Speaker 1:Well, no, it could be. I'm glad I ain't got to give you money, no more. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But she done already flipped. Like I know, rick Ross is mad. She was low key, irrelevant the whole time.
Speaker 1:She had your child, because that wasn't a baby. Mom with 50, right.
Speaker 2:No, that was yes. Ok, she had your child, because that wasn't a baby mom with 50, right?
Speaker 1:no, that was yes. Okay, she's the one that did the photo shoot with 50, but she took the little son with her too when she did that, because the son was in some of the videos I don't know, but like I know, um rick ross is mad because basically the whole time that she's been your baby mama we haven't known about her.
Speaker 2:And right right at the end where like you can stop paying child support is when she gets super popping on social media. And that wouldn't have happened probably if she wasn't your baby mom.
Speaker 1:Like that's still to be fair, that's the business model, though most women will keep it low-key until the kid in the last few years of high school and who else has done that trying to think there was some other women who have been.
Speaker 2:I need you to give me a list of examples, because I haven't seen any of that happen.
Speaker 1:We can go with Shaq right now. Shaq's last daughter with Shawty, just turned 18, and what did she say on her?
Speaker 2:Shawnee O'Neal, who has been producing basketball wives and telling her business, she had been shitting on Shaq a little bit. She didn't say he was cheating, but that wasn't shitting on Shaq. You know niggas know Shaq. That's not a good example because she has been in the public eye and popular without doing that, because she was a producer and like like starter, of basketball wives from. I feel like like a decade and a half ago so she didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1:I feel like a better response would be like she made a whole career on doing that, because she literally made basketball wise.
Speaker 2:She made that, yeah, so she. That's what I'm saying. What do you mean? A better? I don't feel like well a better request of that.
Speaker 1:You were saying like, oh, she wasn't talking about him, but she kind of was she's not talking.
Speaker 2:She wasn't talking about him. She had basketball wives and you know there's mad players who'd be like, oh, you can't explicitly talk about me on the show um and then after they turned 18 and stuff, like didn't nobody give a fuck about, like we already knew shawny on her own enough to be like, yeah, that's, that's a personality, that's somebody I know, so maybe I'm just thinking about regular niggas, then because I know this happened with a lot of niggas that I know whereas, like regular niggas, don't count old, older niggas like where they had their baby mamas and everything was cool.
Speaker 1:They always seem like it was cool. You'd be like, oh, this nigga ain't really got no beef. Then the nigga start turning like 15. He started saying fuck you on like public areas and shit like that. You're like whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on here? It's like the type of nigga that's like what you, big dog?
Speaker 2:but no, like I've seen that before. But I think charleston is just hilarious with this. They're both funny people who I think it's really. I think it's hilarious to watch them, but go back and forth. I felt the same way when ts madison and jess hilarious were going back and forth. I was like y'all are both funny. Regardless of who ends up being the victor in this beef, I'm gonna be entertained, and that's how I feel about this.
Speaker 1:See, I feel like this one's a little more even.
Speaker 2:It's very even.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like really Jess couldn't really get into her bag with that TS Madison shit because of the Breakfast Club overhead. She couldn't really disrespect this individual.
Speaker 2:That was last year, that was before, much before Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1:Well, the most recent, much before breakfast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the most recent tip I mean from jump like the, the beginning of the, like the way ts madison read that bitch when she was still doing the queen's court with kaya. Okay, because when, and they both and kaya to reading like that shit was crazy. So the Big Back incident, I would have killed myself.
Speaker 1:I just want to say the Big Back incident they had. That wasn't their first time having a talk.
Speaker 2:No, that wasn't the first, that was the second time or the third time that they had went back and forth.
Speaker 1:Okay, Because I remember her saying about the trans shit, because we talked about that where she dissed the trans girls. But was she?
Speaker 2:talking when she dissed the trans girls ts came back and said something and then they had a back and forth so that was the first time they ever that was the first time, and then they had another, back and forth, okay, so it's been more than once see.
Speaker 1:That wasn't. I wasn't familiar with that with their actual history, but and then don't call me white girl demona. She had ts madison and just hilarious on her podcast at different times messy, but I feel like, with these two though, this is like the perfect back and forth, like this is like watching kobe and tracy mcgrady play against each other. This is really good.
Speaker 2:That's why I don't want you to to say that tia is like taking his sauce and stuff like that, because I think it's. It's a sauce of like a specific type of funny black person and I've met a bunch of people who come off like both of them, so I don't want you to compare like she's taking it from him or anything like that. I think they're both fucking hilarious and I think they can both like roast the fuck out of each other.
Speaker 1:They like the aunt and uncle that always come to family reunions, but they're not married anymore.
Speaker 2:Yes, but they still be secretly fucking.
Speaker 1:And be talking shit about each other in front of everybody.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's exactly what it feel like. That's that energy. Yeah, it's crazy. No, but rick ross and tia give me that energy. Before charleston came into this, I was like yo, he might still be fucking her. I, he might have been fucking her for way longer than we know, which is why they both are still so passionate about their hate for each other. Because that boy is 18, like if. Even if y'all stop fucking like 12 years ago, why do y'all still have feelings that are that strong.
Speaker 1:It's not about feelings, because the one thing about is y'all will get more feeling when you have access to kind of like a certain degree of influence. Like he does, you're always going to be able to hit your baby mama Like it's never going to not be able to smash it. Once you got that influence, it's going to happen. Oh shit.
Speaker 2:Bleep that out, because we doing something where you'll get to a certain level of influence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean, I think I probably burnt those bridges to a degree that we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think you have. I think them bridges are still afloat because them bitches are not happy in their romantic lives.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:So many, so many bleeps. You got a bleeps. You just got to cut this out. What if I forgot? Oh my God, Please don't.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, All right. Well, let's stay into the marriage realm then. Iman Shumpert and Tiana have officially got their divorce settlement. According to all the urban blogs, he's had to pay her basically like a settlement for the actual case, and he's also have eight thousand dollars in child support. Everybody keeps going, he was trying to get spousal support. Yeah, that's why I'm feeling like how did how did this happen, where you have to pay for essentially the case, the proceedings? And you got to cover it.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's because your frivolous countersuits made it take longer, and then you were working more consistently and you were under a contract, so I feel like he probably made more money.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking More money than her. That's where I was kind of confused at Her money is kind of like more spotty.
Speaker 1:It's based off of like album sales endorsements, like stuff it's way more money in sports yeah, it isn't than entertainment and it's more consistent because he, from what I read, he got to keep his compounds in georgia, like his sports compounds. So there you can already rent those out. That's money gonna be coming in money money training, the fact that you were a fairly successful NBA player, so you do have rapport there and popular. Yeah, I mean he was more popular afterwards than he was when he was playing. He was also with the Knicks too, so that also helped his. He played with the Knicks and LeBron.
Speaker 2:So, those two things are going to kind of help your profile, especially when you talk the way he does, he literally go to the mix when you're about to finish. But his podcast has been not anything I haven't seen no clips from it, not a single.
Speaker 1:That's why I think it's weird to know where it's coming from in regards to like the finances he like behind the scenes now with lebron and uninterrupted like I want to know because it looks like nigga, you got the money, so why are you trying to get her money? Why would you try?
Speaker 2:to to take it. I don't know, I can't even speculate, maybe out of pettiness that's the only thing I could speculate about, because you remember mad long ago when that TikToker came out and she loosely made it seem like Tiana was in the hospital because she did too many drugs, because he was cheating on her, like I wonder if they've been having like troubles for a very long time.
Speaker 1:And then I don't know. I mean you kind of gotta have to have quote-unquote troubles like you're. You don't, as a woman, get, I don't care what you fall in in regards to your finances.
Speaker 2:You don't get with a nigga with that higher profile and expect him to just be about you, especially when you met him on his but we know for a fact that their sexual relationship did not like, and with just them two they they regularly talked about how many threesomes they had, like how many women tiana was willing to bring into the relationship because she was into women also like but you also know that those con like that doesn't just stop there, like she, you can't think that it's gonna stop.
Speaker 2:He's gonna hit her up, he's gonna still try to talk to her, like that stuff and then you niggas, like if, if that's the case and your woman is actually like willing to have threesomes, and then you go outside of the parameters, of the, the very like specific boundaries that have been set, you deserve to die. She should kill you. Yeah, she should line you up fully. Because what the fuck, nigga, are you dumb? I? I literally like decided to have threesomes with you regularly because this is something I want to do. We set parameters, we talked about it and everything, and then you want to hit this bitch up outside. You can have your cake and eat it too, but you want fucking eclairs and ice cream with the cake Bitch. I'm going to set you up and you're going to die.
Speaker 1:I mean to be honest. Honest, when I first seen that they were actually very simply put, when I saw that they were a thing, I knew this was kind of like the spectacle. This was what was going to happen, because you can't be with a woman as high profile as her and feel like you, the man I'm sorry you're not jay-z like she was famous before he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was wait, she was 16. Uh, super sweet 16 yeah, like she was famous before then. She got super sweet 16 because she was already fucking signed and there was.
Speaker 1:There's like so there's no way to anything. She she hasn't even been conditioned and wired to be a woman to know how to treat you like the way you're going to treat all. She knows how to be super obsessive with you. First of all, she already from new y. Yeah, that's already full of agency and independence, right there.
Speaker 2:That's already full of nigga. Hurry up, because I don't have no time, and I don't have no time for your bullshit either. It's already wired with that.
Speaker 1:And then she got money, and then she's been popping since she was 16. There's, like years of things to reinforce how she feels about it.
Speaker 2:She was signed to Pharrell immediately when she came out like one of the when she was on the sweet 16, she was yeah, she was already signed to pharrell, so like there's nothing that you can tell this woman. She's been affirmed by her parents, because I have met them and they're amazing people. Um, she's been affirmed by her parents first, then her label, second then her getting signed and then all like she's she's been nothing but hyped up her entire life.
Speaker 1:You can't just come in and start cheating on the bitch like the ego that's the ego that's on her, just wouldn't allow for you to be able to operate in that kind of manner no, not at all so like. That's why I just knew from the jump like whenever? Oh my god, there's such a beautiful I said this nigga setting himself up for failure. They just really are. I'm gonna tell you, man, I'm gonna help you. You rich niggas need to just call me.
Speaker 1:I have a thousand dollars give him your money a thousand dollars an hour and I'll coach you, niggas, on how to act. P because y'all niggas don't know how.
Speaker 2:It's just clearly evident y'all know when they ask you what is your experience and why should I trust you?
Speaker 1:why you? Why you should trust me, why they should trust you? Because, man, it's trying she. When we turn the cameras off, mom's the word he lying, y'all oh that was a lie.
Speaker 2:Also, I've heard mom's the word at least seven times in the past, like couple days, and I feel like I loosely get like the context of what that means like you're not saying nothing oh, when you make mom. Your mouth is closed okay, I didn't get that with that man at all. Okay, what's next?
Speaker 1:All right, let's get into a little bit of seriousness so we can get this out the way, not to rush it because it is tragic, but Mr Foolio has passed away. Is it tragic? I was going to get into that in just a moment. Just let me let people know what happened. So if you're not familiar, he's a hip-hop artist from jacksonville, florida and unfortunately, he was gunned down not too long ago um on his birthday damn yeah, it was on his birthday. Literally, he was back at the hotel.
Speaker 2:This was all the math you were telling me about. Yeah, so yeah, do the math for the people.
Speaker 1:So people will know this there was a song that came out about a few years ago called who I smoke, and that was youngE and some of his partners. So Young NACE is beefing. His team and Fulio's team have been in a long standing beef. You can check out Trap Lord Raw's video about it. He goes into great detail. I even have a partner who is like close to kind of this shit and he was telling me a lot about it. But Fulio has been talking big shit for probably good.
Speaker 2:Had been he not talking no shit, no more, because that nigga dead as fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he been talking big shit at least since that video came out, he been in Atlanta for real. Like he's been in Atlanta. He's been kind of running around trying to basically get his profile raised up in the midst of all this and unfortunately, not him using Atlanta for cl. Get his profile raised up in the midst of all this and unfortunately Not him using Atlanta for clout, like Drake did.
Speaker 1:Colonizer. He wasn't using it for clout, he was using it for protection. He couldn't go back. He died in Florida Like there wasn't. He couldn't go back there and he didn't even die in his hometown, he died in Tampa. That's like 80 miles he's from Jacksonville.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know. That's like 80 miles.
Speaker 4:God damn, it's probably a little bit less than that, but roughly 80 miles where he just ended up getting killed way off from his home.
Speaker 1:But no, to kind of do a little bit of breakdown on it young and ace's brother whose name was 2323, he got killed on his birthday about four or five years ago maybe, and it was from the people on allegedly julio's side oh, so this was get back in a real way this on the 23rd.
Speaker 2:So the 23rd was the next day, oh so his birthday was the 22nd, was two, three and he got killed on two, two technically he got killed on two, three because it was in the morning. Oh.
Speaker 1:So this is like Not numerology.
Speaker 2:You niggas tapping into numerology now in the hood.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Y'all need to be stopped immediately. But to shoot the nigga on his birthday made it into releasing some of the pictures. I don't know if they're real. I hope not, because what I saw was horrible. His face looked like he took a mallet to it.
Speaker 2:I it was horrible. His face looked like he took a mallet to it.
Speaker 1:I would have never looked at those.
Speaker 2:Well, man it was going through the timeline, I was just scrolling. That's not something that pops up in my algorithms, but you go ahead.
Speaker 1:But no, it was crazy just seeing that and it was just tragic, but like it is tragic in that kind of standpoint. But then I kind of just asked a question. Like I started seeing people saying like oh, this isn't sad, and I see so much of a commotion around. Oh, he basically deserved this and they were saying it because he been talking shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you can talk shit without deserving to die.
Speaker 1:Well, when you telling niggas, I'm smoking on your ops, I'm going to your grave of your dead brother, telling niggas, oh, we praying for two, three.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:I'm antagonizing you. Oh yeah, that's that. Was it? The reason I didn't appreciate seeing so many people show him so so much lack of empathy was because I didn't do this for young Dolph. Young Dolph antagonized his ops Almost to the day he died.
Speaker 2:Who was the more talented party in the beefs in both situations? Who was the more talented party in the beefs in both situations? Was Young Dolph the more talented party. It's debatable the party with the bigger bop that most people would recognize.
Speaker 1:I would say no, I would say they're very much in the same who was the?
Speaker 2:person that Young Dolph was beef-. Yo Gotti, yeah, oh, I didn't even know that Yo Gotti was the person that he was beefing with this all stems from that kind of beef. This all stems from all of that and then in this, in this one with Fulio is young and ace so young, and ace was the more popular person. He's more popular.
Speaker 1:He was cool with Vaughn. He's cool with Dirk. He's he's more, he's closer to mainstream than the rest of the guys okay, so that's why, uh, and then he also dropped a song, so we can't say that people are on the mainstream than the rest of the guys.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's why, uh, and then he also dropped a song, so we can't say that people are on the side of the more popping.
Speaker 1:Well, in this particular, people were bigger fans of Dolph than they are Fulio.
Speaker 2:So because they were, no, because my compare people were bigger fans of Dolph than they were of young.
Speaker 3:Gotti.
Speaker 2:No, and then were people a bigger fan of Fulio than they were of Okay? So in both cases, the less talented party was the one that was being more respected after the death.
Speaker 1:No, in Dolph's case. Dolph was respected. After his death, people were saying RIP.
Speaker 2:People were saying Did you not just Was he the least talented party?
Speaker 1:That don't matter in this conversation.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm specifically asking you.
Speaker 1:Now listen to what I'm about to say. Dolph was less famous than Gotti.
Speaker 7:I didn't say famous Listen.
Speaker 1:He's less relevant than Gotti. He's a lesser tier artist than Gotti, but people like Dolph still. People didn't like Fulio. The same way he's not as favorable as.
Speaker 1:Dolph was, and so in his death people were showing less empathy. And I'm saying they both talk shit, they both antagonize their deaths, they both yeah, but people liked. But I'm saying that's the problem. No, I don't think it's a problem at all. Yes, it's a problem, like both of them niggas. If we being honest, both of them niggas deserve what they got. They was being gangsters in the street.
Speaker 2:I don't think either of them deserve to be shot down in the fucking streets, if I'm over here, if I'm over regardless of of what they was doing.
Speaker 1:I don't think anybody deserves that if I'm antagonizing ops, I'm making music and disrespecting you and your family members on a continual basis. I'm telling you, niggas, to come get me on the internet. Multiple times you're asking for that. You're again. I feel bad for their families and everything involved and I want to read what, uh, julio mama said. But at the end of the day, these men died the way they lived. They wanted to be gangsters. They wanted to appease this image, regardless of the families they had, the women that they cared about, the children and all that other stuff. They wanted to appease this image and they got what came with that. The nigga Fulio had tweeted like years ago nigga, I'm either going to end up dead or in jail. That's my future.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, that's how most of them niggas end up. That's not. I'm just saying like when you're in this predicament. It's not like a uh, it's not like he predicted something that was outside of the realm of the possibilities for him, like all the niggas that he knew either ended up dead or in jail. So he was just like. That's not nothing to point out for I don't think no, he just knew, knew that his lifestyle ended up in one of two ways.
Speaker 2:But the problem is Regardless of how popular you are, it ends up in one of those two ways, and what I'm saying is he got the death he wanted.
Speaker 1:That was the death that both of them, I'm pretty sure. If you was to ask these men what truth serum in their body, what is the kind of death they want, they would want it to be like this Infamous death, dying in gunfire of death they want they would want to be like this and the infamous uh death.
Speaker 2:I forgot what the main point that you were trying to make in the first place was that I didn't.
Speaker 1:Well, I was trying to discuss that, how I thought it was weird that people didn't like dolph I mean didn't like julio, but were cool with dolph, even though they did the same thing. And my point was going to be that these men died the way they lived yeah, my point is dolph had a bigger bop than than Fulio.
Speaker 2:People don't give a fuck about Fulio because I don't know who he is. I didn't know who he was until he died. Yeah, I mean, why would I care or empathize with a nigga that I did not even know that was doing hood shit, that this is one of the things that he knew was gonna happen to him in the first goddamn place? I don't care. But young Dolph, born in the 80s, bait like you hear him on a regular basis. So it's going to impact you more. That's literally it, and that's why I was asking you about the impact of one's music versus the other, because people are going to give a fuck more about you if you made a bop. That like hits them. And what's the other one's name, young?
Speaker 2:Fulio yes, I forgot his name during this argument because I know who young dolph is, but I have no idea who folio is and I did not know who he was until 17 of his baby mamas came out and said oh, my baby is gone. After he died like nigga nobody gives a fuck about. I'm sorry, this sounds mean. Less people give a fuck about you dying because less people gave a fuck about you. Period, that's it.
Speaker 1:Well, let's listen to what his mother had to say, and apparently I don't know if this is a picture for real of her, but they put a picture of him next to a black woman. That's a doctor, and I think they're trying to say that's his mom. I don't think that's his mom. It is because, I mean, what's the same picture that's in the profile right here.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, oh yeah, how you have a doctor. His dad probably died when he was like three.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say 100% sure, but I think he spoke about that yeah.
Speaker 2:There's no way he has an active father figure in his life. So this is what his mom says you died.
Speaker 1:Rest in peace. Charles Jones II Julio. The real life story documentary coming soon. I felt like that was nasty. Don't tell me you're about to sell my story after I die, because that's gross.
Speaker 2:She said I raised this hood rat that I had by this hood rat, ass nigga, in the first place. I might as well benefit off of it. I'm being such a terrible person right now.
Speaker 1:She also says this the story that only I can tell, because I know the truths. She put the truths with an S.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is why I'd like are we sure that she has a nursing or doctoral degree of any sort?
Speaker 1:Well, you don't got to be great at literature to be in the medical field.
Speaker 2:You just got to be good enough. You have to have a good brain that remembers things she said.
Speaker 1:I know the truths from the fakes. I think I'm the only mother that kept it real, while most others know damn well what's going on with their own sons. Them not knowing. I stayed on you about this beat.
Speaker 2:I'm having a stroke right now trying to understand.
Speaker 1:Begged you to take stuff down.
Speaker 2:I think it's the way you read stuff, like you put there's no, there's no periods and inflections.
Speaker 1:And she hears I'm reading it with the comments.
Speaker 2:I do want to see it really quickly, though I'm just reading it with the comments just want to see it really quickly and then I wanted to.
Speaker 2:I want to read y'all this like a normal person. Rip son charles, second charles jones, the second folio, the real life story, that um documentary coming soon. The story that I can only tell because I know the truth from the fakes. I think I'm the only mother that kept it real, while most others know damn well what's going on with their own sons. Them not knowing, I stayed on you about this beef shit, cussed you out, begged you to take stuff down. Okay, now I understand when I read it. She's saying that, like I tried to get you to stop doing this stuff, um, I don't believe that I knew that you were doing this shit.
Speaker 2:I'm one of the only mothers that kept it real and I knew exactly what was happening with you and I begged you to stop this shit and you didn't like. Whether you believe it or not, I understand it better now I just I don't believe her.
Speaker 1:I don't believe her. To me, I feel like this I'm on the same page as you if he ever. If you ever took any dollar from him, then you enabled it If he paid any bill, any rent paid for any homes.
Speaker 2:What were you doing, like? I just feel like if you were a nurse in a hospital of any sort and you didn't have a father in the home, then you had no idea what that boy was doing. Because someone who had a nurse mom herself, like nurses work very long. They be working like 12 hour shifts at a time. If you're gone most of the day, like a chunk of the day, they know exactly when to act up. I knew exactly when I could act up, so it's just like oh, no, it's rough, it's rough, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then young and ace dropped a song like right after talking about, and in the song he says when I tell my hitters, go, they go, nigga. Basically rapped about calling a murder on this nigga and dropped it the next day, like the next day after he died. I think he dropped a song. This is from what I saw. This song could have been old. I saw a song drop before he died. They announced he dies and then he drops another song and I'm sitting there like, oh, these niggas had to set up. These niggas was ready.
Speaker 1:Yeah, caught that nigga slipping all the way but he was being green too, like if you look at his last video. Uh, but he was being green too. So like if you look at, like his last videos, he was giving up his location, he was telling everybody who's gonna be at being with a whole bunch of people. He probably didn't know. It was nasty work yeah, that's crazy no, he definitely set himself up for that man. It's awful all right. So, uh, the double x. I got it right here.
Speaker 1:The double x freshman class for 2024 has been released yep I'm gonna actually familiar with some of these people, so I will name them off. I think it's very telling that lay banks is the first name on there why, because I think she's a big time industry plant and I think they're trying to push her way more than probably a lot of these other people are.
Speaker 2:She's not an industry plant. That means she's still living in Queens with her parents.
Speaker 1:You can still be an industry plant living in Queens with your parents, so I'm not sure who this is. Maya the Don, are you familiar with her?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she had that one song that went viral a while ago. She's um. That went viral a while ago. She's from new york. She's the um, the um. She got a song. Let me see that song. She sampled that. She's a light-skinned um black girl. She fat, yeah, she's fat, she's fat, but she look good as fuck. Maya, you fat and you sexy as fuck period.
Speaker 1:All right, you know that I'm gonna just run through this real quick. Uh, so we got big x the plug.
Speaker 2:Honcho skrilla baby, a skill, a baby cash honcho is the nigga that keisha cole is fucking right well, he was hitting it no, she's still on him. She posted his whole birthday party on her page like two days ago.
Speaker 1:That nigga like 24.
Speaker 2:That's a young nigga too, yeah. And then Skilla Baby. Okay, hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me stay on this. Real quick, real quick. You know who I thought he was when I first first saw him. I thought he was sexy. He was Sexy Red's baby daddy.
Speaker 2:They posted a couple videos together and stuff.
Speaker 1:Especially when she was pregnant. Yeah, that's why I thought that's who he was. I've never heard any of his music.
Speaker 2:If you followed her a little bit closer then you would know that that whole time that we knew that her baby daddy was like in jail.
Speaker 1:No, I knew that, but I just thought I'm seeing this nigga next to her. He looked like she put him in the super jail fresh out of jail package. Yeah, but whole time he was with Keisha Cole he the only young nigga that hit the right, the older women right. Because he was out there doing the dirty. Let's see who else is on here Skilla Baby, cash Cobain that was the nigga I told you about, the one who wrote for Drake.
Speaker 2:Got an attitude, but she made a shoe. First of all, really quick Cash. Quick cash. Cobain, his girlfriend her name is marnie. Marnie is one of those girls that like, as a girl, you want to be her and as a man, you want to fuck her. Like she gives off this like cool ass energy. She has piercings all over, but they're aesthetically placed so that, like, her beauty isn't taken away by, like the shit ton of tattoos that she has. I'm just and he's like a fat, dark-skinned nigga and she's like a slim, like she's like a medium. I I fucking love them. I'm obsessed with you, marnie. I genuinely am. She has gauges, she has a nose, it's like she's so cool. I love that bitch. I'm in love with Marnie. I genuinely am. She has gauges, she has a nose, it's like she's so cool. I love that bitch. I'm in love with Marnie. And he just dropped a new song and the whole hook is about her.
Speaker 1:She sound like you know when the uh niggas on the conservative side be describing like their, their nightmare fuel of like activists where they're like oh the purple hair tattoo.
Speaker 2:Feminist that's, that's what you were describing except I fully support what she looks like and I love girls that look like her like I want to be you bitch.
Speaker 1:I wish I was brave enough okay, we're talking about the, the freshman.
Speaker 2:I know she ain't even on here like yeah, but that's the people who follow cash are obsessed with marnie I'm telling you this what happened to you Niggas?
Speaker 1:show y'all niggas used to be able to get, like, get his shit off y'all own mare. Now y'all got a call to women every time, like y'all got to have girlfriends you have to see her.
Speaker 2:Bro, I'm not saying that you be missing. Marnie does not look like you all, but you always miss the.
Speaker 1:I had nothing to do about her being a girl, it's about the fact that these bitches so bad, but I'm gonna get attention.
Speaker 2:It's just. It's just a bad couple for you to get that argument off, because she's just the shit.
Speaker 1:It's because a lot of these niggas really don't have like talent for real, like the talent is everybody around them, they just the face, the front facing of the product. I don't think that I should talk about marnie I'm just saying like it just seems like everything around them, marnie.
Speaker 2:Like, and that song is dope as fuck too. Like I feel like you make him flyer. I genuinely do. I feel like his music is good because of you See what I'm telling you. Like that sauce, like that. And she just got signed too.
Speaker 1:Again, like I said, this is what's wrong. Y'all can't, y'all value your own brand, but let's get into more of the people. So the Mexican OT I've heard him before.
Speaker 3:We played him on the show before we played him on the show before.
Speaker 1:Rich Amiri, not too familiar with him.
Speaker 2:Let me pull up this list so I can see.
Speaker 1:I think Rich Amiri. No, no, this is who it is Boss man D who got the song about being on the 50 floor eating hibashi. You know, you have heard that song we talked I have. I'm on the 50 floor eating hibashi. That song, four bats and then scarlet. I didn't think that scarlet probably should have been on here she had like one song. She ain't done nothing else.
Speaker 2:But since then, though, like she, no, there was another song that she put out. She put out some visuals that were really good. I think, think, with Busta Rhymes backing and all that stuff that she's been getting lately, then she might turn out to be a rapper who we need to look at. I think, because she's dark skin and she's not conventionally attractive, that she might just fall within the weight side. So I don't know, but I do like her and I have followed her, so I'm glad that she's on this list and she's from the bronx. Her story is rough as fuck, so, um, I'm usually rooting for people like her, definitely and then do you know who four bats?
Speaker 1:is the nigga that everybody been talking about nope what do you pay attention to?
Speaker 2:the girlies? Fuck y'all niggas. Honestly, y'all don't interest me one bit. Y'all are boring as fuck. But I mean, all the girls on here are pretty mid though, because you're not a girl.
Speaker 1:Continue no, they are, or what are done now. That's the list. The list is done.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm talking about the people on the list all the girls on the list, maya and Maya, and what Scar and then how many?
Speaker 1:there were three girls and then Leigh.
Speaker 2:Um, I know all of them versus all of the guys on this list, so you might think they're mid, but they're not no, I've listened to okay you might think they're mid, but they're not make.
Speaker 2:Leigh is definitely not making music for as she's. She's making music for like 20 year old girls. She's definitely not making music for me or you. I just happen to appreciate, um, what she's doing, maya. I think she's very talented, but she's put out like two singles. I'm surprised she's on this list. That's. What would surprise me about her being on this list is is she hasn't put out a full project yet, so I don't know why they would put her on this, cause they need a woman quota scar.
Speaker 2:I feel the same way about scar. Like she has had like a um, a single or two, but she also hasn't had any projects. But these are the like some of the only people on this list whose careers I'm actually following. These men I don't know if they've put out projects in this and that or anything of that nature yet, but I know, like these women, like they're, this is a freshman list. Obviously this is a up-and-comers list, so it's probably fine that they haven't dropped their first projects yet. Lay hasn't dropped her first project yet, but I know that's gonna be. She's one of those rap girls that will very easily transition into pop because her music is more poppy than it is rap.
Speaker 2:I don't think I don't think lay should be on a double excel rap freshman list because of how much pop she does. Maya hasn't put out an album yet, like if. If you want to make an argument for them not being on the list, then that would be it. Maya hasn't put out a full album yet, but then also I can't say that any of these other niggas have put out a full album or anything. I don't know any of these niggas. Boss, man d low, mexican the ot like I've seen the mexican ot doing like freestyles and shit. Probably the biggest one on the list because they compare him to paul wall. Very, very, very often they're like oh, this is the paul wall of our new generation. Um, big x the plug. Like I haven't seen any of these niggas, like I don't know any of them and and then Southside is he on the list Producer for 2024.
Speaker 1:It says Beat.
Speaker 2:Spy. Yeah, it says producer for the 2024 XXL freshman.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know I do the free trial.
Speaker 2:Because I was about to say not Southside, who's been in this shit for mad long. But yeah, and then who is this girl Over here down here? That's late oh, she looks so different, girl, that you need to get the same makeup artist girl. What the fuck, why do you look like that?
Speaker 1:I think that you can listen to somebody's music even though it's not for you. You can listen to my music and say it's just still not good, like I can listen to what she's the product because music is subjective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why I can make the subject and say it's not, you can't say it's not good, it's not good to you, okay, because it's subjective.
Speaker 1:So I can say it's not good, like what the fuck? What are you talking?
Speaker 2:about. You can say, just like you can listen to something and say it's not good, you can state your opinion.
Speaker 1:But it's not going to be a fact and I need you to say that. Who did I say that was a fact to you? I said it's not good. That means it's my opinion that it's not good.
Speaker 2:No, you can say that like it's a no, you can say your opinion.
Speaker 1:And I said it's not good.
Speaker 2:Okay, and your opinion is horrible. Garbage, garbage, fucking takes.
Speaker 1:You don't even know most of the people on here. So how can, how can you say anything? That's garbage, you don't know who's on it.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But I will say Mexican OT is probably the biggest dude on here.
Speaker 2:He is, he's the person that I've seen the most on TikTok. I've seen his freestyles over and over again. I see him get compared to Paul Wall very often. He's like the new non-black rap nigga.
Speaker 1:I like some of his music. He did with the, with the baby, because I felt like he was about to bring him back okay, so meg the stallion has canceled the european leg of her tour.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know if you guys saw, but when she had initially announced her tour and the tickets went on sale and everything, all the meg haters were like, oh, she's not selling out this tour. You know, like the tickets aren't selling. Um, they went on, uh, on sale or they were being sold at a discount as a result of her tickets not selling that much. And then her European like the whole. I thought it was just like part of it, but the entire European leg of the tour was canceled. So I wanted to talk about that a little bit and ask you like why you think that is the case and I don't know, like why do you think meg's like the whole european tour was canceled and what do you think the consequences of this for her career are moving forward, since they probably spent a good amount of money on this already, right, even though she hadn't got there yet I think to kind of had a full discussion.
Speaker 1:You kind of kind of have to get into the entire tour on this, because, remember, when I first talked about this I said yo, that's a big deal that they're doing arena tours for her yeah as an artist like that means there's people around you that expect a lot in academics, for, for his reasons, he's been following this for since probably since the beginning, talking about the sales and things of that nature there was, because he's a hating ass bitch.
Speaker 1:I mean there was talks that he had that she had to change the price of a lot of her tickets so yeah, that affects her bottom line, yeah that it don't affect nobody else but the artist. The artist is the only person who's taking less in this situation?
Speaker 2:yeah, because everyone gets paid beforehand so she ends up losing money.
Speaker 1:In regards to that, um, the facts fact that it just seems like maybe from a global perspective, she may not be that big, she may not be that interesting, like we may be seeing a real cap on what black women can do outside of the country, and I think that's a realistic cap. Because if she's still with Glorilla, it's not like she got with. What's the shawty's name?
Speaker 2:What's a white girl she could probably get with. Maybe that's the same, um, like it's not like she's on, she's on tour like with, like sabrina carpenter yeah her, I'm working late, like she would kill europe. She would kill europe but um, damn, I forgot my point.
Speaker 1:Continue what you were saying I will say the blowback is going to be this is we're probably going to either see her having to owe a lot of money yes, okay.
Speaker 2:So the appeal of like very specific black black women who only serve like a african-american aesthetic right like megan, like cardi, like glorilla, like I don't think realistically that any of the higher ups should have thought that she would have made it out of the US market. I think that y'all don't have a good grasp on blackness, on people of African descent. If you don't agree with being called black, uh, I, I feel like you, you outside of the us black people like completely different things okay, I was gonna say where you getting at with that yeah.
Speaker 2:So you thinking that meg would do well outside of the us is short-sighted and you don't know black people as well as you think you do, because African Americans and the rest of the diaspora have completely different tastes.
Speaker 2:I feel like and Meg is not an artist that I think would do well outside of the US with the, with her the sexuality of her songs and like a. There are so many other um countries of black descent, of african descent, where morality is way more apparent in the culture than the united states is. I know as somebody from haiti that like our problem as carib Caribbean people with y'all as African Americans is we feel like y'all are not classy enough. It's respectability politics through and through, but like when you have somebody like Megan Thee Stallion trying to make it outside of the US market, then you have to take that into because it you have to take that into consideration. And women in Jamaica aren't gonna like her because she's shaking her ass. Women in haiti aren't gonna like her because she doesn't come off as catholic. Like. There's so many things that you have to take into consideration, so it's not just like would she do well outside? Like black women outside of the african-american market?
Speaker 1:how do they consume things, and people don't give a fuck about that for real, and that's why she failed I think there's there also just shows like there's a lot of people in the business like she's with jay-z and shit, like right now there's a lot of people in this business who still feel the old way of thinking, meaning like if you're a success in america, you're going to be a success around the globe. That used to be a common, you know uh, thought process like hey, I'm going to get my artists in america once they get popular in america, because we're the hub of entertainment, everybody else is going to accept it. I just think we're just kind of seeing like it doesn't work the same way with black women, even when, even in reverse, nothing does no, in reverse, it does.
Speaker 1:There's the, the women basketball players.
Speaker 2:They make way more money overseas than they do home at home okay when they, when they do a sport, but it seems like something I would know about guys.
Speaker 1:But but if you think about it, it's when women hold themselves. They make more here in the states than they will in other countries. When women hold themselves, I just said I just used an aggressive term for it.
Speaker 2:What does that mean? Oversexualize?
Speaker 1:themselves, objectify themselves. They use their bodies as sex objects in their art.
Speaker 2:Yes, because sexuality is more valuable in the American market than it is in other markets.
Speaker 1:If you were doing that. Well, it depends what you mean by valuable.
Speaker 2:It does depend.
Speaker 1:Valuable in currency.
Speaker 2:yeah, yes, yes, yes, valuable in currency. Yeah, yes, not valuable, but that's what we mean as americans, is valuable because currency is over everything. So, like when you go to another country and your sexiness is deemed as something that makes you a horrible whore, you're not gonna do that, but here you're gonna sell more when you do that. So it is different and I pray.
Speaker 1:I would love to look at it how that is with white women too.
Speaker 2:Like do they feel like they have to be because it seems like with taylor, taylor, swift if she was the, the the control for this conversation it doesn't feel like control for most of these conversations.
Speaker 1:To be fair, because it doesn't look like anything's different from her tour on the out in america than it is on the yeah it's not like she changes it up.
Speaker 2:No, it's the same shit.
Speaker 1:She's doing the same shit so that's why I mean it's just, it's just interesting, but do you think it's because white people have lower standards for their entertainers than black people do I don't think they have lower standards several layers to this conversation. I don't think it's lower standards that they have, for I think there's a reliable uh relatability factor that they have. Like once they really find somebody, they like they gravitate way more than we have, and plus Do you mean black people or white people?
Speaker 1:White people, okay, okay, and also too, and also, I think she extends more because when you go to Europe which is this is the tour that Megan was on when you go to a European, so even though Taylor Swift cleans house around the world, white people, white people in there going all over the globe. They're going to like her, like I just I don't see why they a reason for why they wouldn't, because she had that same appeal around.
Speaker 2:But that's what I'm saying. I think Taylor Swift is a little bit more universal than Meg Thee Stallion, because I think I didn't even know that the African-American experience was that diverse until I left New York and moved to Georgia and Georgia is a state of implants. So I met people from Louisiana, north Carolina, chicago, like I met black people from everywhere, and I finally realized that each black state has their own culture that is specific to them. Each black state has their own culture that is specific to them. So like, if you don't, if you don't appeal to a specific black culture, then you're not going to have the hearts of all of the black people. I feel like it is very hard for black artists to just take over generally.
Speaker 1:I would say too, is the opposite to what, too, in what we talked about in regards to their morality or how they, subject to it, Like a hip-hop artist in the States, may have a hard time gaining traction and being able to do big shows, but they'll go to Europe Like Waka Waka go to Europe and it's crazy over there, but it's like. I guess it's like Tyler and his.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 1:Tyler's different. I feel like Tyler's a little bit different. He doesn't fall into the argument I'm making. You definitely right about that my argument is that they are okay with that image from especially black men. 50 Cent, go crazy. Overseas Gangsta rap for the most part does have an appeal over there. Underground rap does too, especially older rap like Jada, kiss all that stuff, like that.
Speaker 2:They go crazy over there. I was going to say, like most deaf, like niggas like that, go crazy overseas yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they do arena tour overseas, but I know for sure they got a run that they doing and they making they clearing house?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that for y'all. Y'all keep making that white money. But I mean and I want y'all to charge them more. It's kind of problematic, though, is it to keep taking white people's money? Well, to take it by being a Sambo, modern day Sambo are you being a Sambo if you're making your content more palatable to white people so that you can steal their money, so that you can give it to black people?
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that last part doesn't happen, that last part has't happen. Okay, that's what I was about to say. The last part has never happened in history.
Speaker 2:The last part was definitely a stretch, but I do think that it isn't worth anything at all if you're playing that role and then just keeping the money for yourself.
Speaker 1:I mean that's what it ought to be. That's why it's never been worth anything at all. If you're playing that role and then just keeping the money for yourself, I mean that's what they all do. That's why it's never been worth anything. So I do agree with you. Y'all niggas is garbage well, hopefully, uh, megan, y'all can figure something out. It just man. It just also shows the lack of star power now like we're never going to have these big stars anymore.
Speaker 1:I think that's really what this is, overall, saying explain yourself like drake and taylor, swift are going to be the last two major global superstars. It's? It's literally because of how these apps operate remember how I was talking to you about how the interfaces for each app was and how there's some apps that it makes you follow, because the like button is next to the follow button. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a lot, and then sometimes you be asked.
Speaker 2:I do that on tiktok all the time. I accidentally follow people that I just meant to like their pictures or I just meant to visit their profile so I can see what's happening there. Um, I'll come across people that I've been following for months and I've never seen their content before. I always unfollow them.
Speaker 1:I need you also to always unfollow these niggas and that that's why you always see the font of the name kind of it's slightly different but it's smaller, but it doesn't pop like that. So what my argument basically is in these companies and corporations, they have a concerted effort to never make another star again. Why would we make a star when you can do the work, create a niche, and then we profit, essentially getting 30 of everything that you do on these apps if you gain a profile or a following you want to know something interesting.
Speaker 2:That's why the fashion houses stopped hiring models with iconic walks, like naomi campbell and things of that, like people of that. Naomi Campbell and things like that, like people of that. Because people were showing up to see this model walk versus seeing what this model is in. So people were seeing people were showing up to see this model walk versus seeing what this model is in. And that's a very big problem in haute couture, luxury, retail, things of that, that, that nature, because you want people to buy the things. You don't want the girl to be the selling point.
Speaker 1:So that's why you don't see super models like you you used to see, because the girls have less focus than the clothes we're going to see more and more, as history goes on, where it's like companies are going to be putting way less money behind these artists. Budgets are going to be coming even smaller because at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:You saw that AI influencer that that brand made up.
Speaker 1:Talking about. What was it? Is it a newer one or, like? We already discussed this before?
Speaker 2:No, we haven't discussed this. She's like a racially ambiguous girl. She has a whole Instagram profile. Mad people follow her. She's a human like she's curly hair, tan skin, big eyes. Not a human doesn't exist.
Speaker 1:I've seen multiple pages like that actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that's. I think that is where we're leaning towards is just like people making influencers that look exactly what women want to look like, that look exactly what men want to fuck. Because that's the, that's the sweet spot in the middle, right, you have to have women who want to be like her, and then you have to want men to want to pamper her and give her everything and then that's like an untouchable woman. So they're getting closer.
Speaker 2:I don't like that shit I don't want to think that I like a girl's style and her personality and then realize that she's a fucking robot what?
Speaker 1:that's all that's gonna happen. That's gonna be the new wave, bro, like there's no reason moving forward to invest in a person. Why they die, they say bad stuff, they can get tired. What do I gain from that? You can keep this girl 16 for as long as you want. Yeah, she's going to appeal to these groups of people forever and they're already conditioning the youth. That's why it's really problematic with them having the phones and stuff, because now you're allowing companies to take five, six, seven year olds and condition them for a new kind of media. So then when they do become of the age of hey, mommy, I want this. This new media is already being pushed.
Speaker 2:our child is gonna be so lame I'm sorry in advance to you, girl, because I want you to be a girl, but, like I, genuinely I want our child to grow up like we did. I don't want them to have access to social media until they're like 15, 16 years old.
Speaker 1:I know that's literally going to be an app for them to do schoolwork.
Speaker 2:That's literally going to be an app for them to do schoolwork.
Speaker 1:That's literally, it's impossible, I mean by the time our kid gets of age. It's going to be around a time where, like Because I haven't even conceived yet.
Speaker 2:Y'all.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a social media. It's going to be social media for school.
Speaker 2:We haven't even planned to conceive yet. So, like it's going to be a completely different. I just don't, I genuinely do not want one our kid to be one of those screen ipad kids.
Speaker 1:I will literally cry on a daily basis, but that could also end up being something that happens in regards to being like. Consider his, their development is down like people will assess that, like, oh, you're not good at this, this and this. With these tools, your development, they're gonna. I'm trying to tell you that's gonna be the the real no, I, I, our kid is probably half android.
Speaker 2:This is not a conversation we need to get into during the show, but there are things that I plan on doing to like. I've been thinking about this for a very long time. I don't want our kid to be a fucking weirdo, but though, but and then also like. I grew up very unprivileged, so naturally us giving our child more privilege would expose them to more social interactions. I feel like I'm socially awkward as fuck. People tell me I'm not all the time I mean you're you're.
Speaker 1:I feel can't be.
Speaker 2:I feel awkward. Regularly when I talk to people, people feel like I'm awkward, a little bit into from the beginning, from the conception of the conversation. I'm anxious, I'm awkward, I'm thinking about what I have to say. I'm thinking about what you would react to what I have to say, whether or not I know you like. There are so many factors that come into what I'm gonna say to you.
Speaker 1:I just hit you with the 48 laws of power. That's how I knew I was crazy when I read the 48 laws of power and I was like, oh, I already live like this. Like my brain already operates like to get to make you think what I want you to think, rather than being open with the.
Speaker 2:I want y'all to know that like I'm with this crazy ass man who me? Who, like most people, don't think that Geminis are attractive. Personality-wise.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this. You don't think I'm attractive, personality-wise no.
Speaker 2:Most people don't like Geminis. They think y'all a two-faced. Most people also don't like Sagittarius. Sagittarius, sagittarius, like shaztari, I said terriuses, if you follow star signs, moon signs, whatever, my sign and frederick's sign are definitely supposed to be together, like on the on the charts, like we, we end up together. Sedentaries and gemini are the only ones that end up together, I feel like because we're such specific assholes I could have.
Speaker 1:Well, it's all fake, but I feel like I've read other it's all fake, yes, but most.
Speaker 2:I'll show you most of the things. If you put your birth time in in my birth time in, we'll always get each other birth times right. So, um, I feel it's because sanitarious is a very specific type of asshole and gemini is a very specific type of asshole and Gemini is a very specific type of asshole and we're both very specific types of assholes and the way we communicate with each other is genuinely special as fuck, because I feel, regardless of which, this is not a conversation we need to have on the camera.
Speaker 7:But regardless of how you feel, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I communicate with you better than I've communicated with anybody else before. What were we talking about originally? I think we were talking about Megan right oh my God Like, how did we get so far off of that?
Speaker 1:That's what happens sometimes.
Speaker 2:What the?
Speaker 1:fuck you, just start falling into that wave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay what's next, do you? Oh, was there a specific thing that you wanted to get out or discuss?
Speaker 1:that was my. Thing.
Speaker 2:I wanted to talk about was just the fact what was gonna be here, oh, oh, can I tell you, though, meg, her boyfriend party and her ex yeah, her ex party was with jada kingdom after her, and then niggas was like yo, how can you even get a girl with a fatter ass like? There was only like this many girls with a fatter ass, and Jada Kingdom was one of them and he got her. There's another girl that apparently allegedly I'm not 100% sure, but him and Jada Kingdom broke up and he got another big booty party. Where do you keep fighting these women? They don't even have porn star butts, they don't have bbl butts, they have just massive natural asses. Where do you keep getting these women from?
Speaker 1:he clearly got it.
Speaker 2:That's crazy that's, that's not. You don't find jada Kingdom and Meg the Stallion on a fucking app Shut up, clearly, clearly. He got it off the app. I just want to know where you find these women from. What's the next topic? All right.
Speaker 1:So did you hear about Matthew Stafford's wife? I have no idea who that is. So Matthew Stafford is the quarterback for the Los Angeles Rams. He recently just won a Super Bowl and his wife, who a lot of people don't realize she's been trying to start her own little media career for probably about a year or two now, because one of the earlier things that came out she said on her show that she had talked about how he had an issue connecting with a lot of the younger players because he was just so much older. When you're a quarterback you play way longer than everybody else.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So he was saying he had an issue connected with the younger players and she talked about that on her show and she ended up getting a lot of blowback from that, because it's like, as a player, you're sitting sitting here thinking, okay, you're telling your wife some stuff like that, what else are you telling her and what else is she going to be willing to expose? So she was recently on another person's podcast and she said this Wait.
Speaker 8:so was he trying to casually date and you were all in. Oh yeah, girl. Anyways, long story short, it wasn't that cute of a relationship. At first, I hated him, I loved him, I dated the backup to piss him off, which?
Speaker 8:worked oh yes, he was like that'll do it. He was the bad boy too, like Matthew's so sweet and southern gentleman and all that stuff, and the backup was the complete opposite. Yeah, yeah, ooh, and it upset him. So they lived in the same dorm, because athletes lived in the same dorm and he would see my car there. And so at one point he like waited and followed me out and got in my car and wouldn't get out and he was like this is so hot.
Speaker 8:I was like this is amazing, it's working. Yeah, I would get out of my car. And he was like I don't think he's not right for you. And I was like you can't tell me that.
Speaker 1:Bitch. Your life is in danger Was he trying to casualize. That's what they be into, though.
Speaker 2:Like what the fuck? Yeah, you niggas that think that the shit, the stalker shit that y'all be, the women on the Internet be saying, is hot, first of all, you're going to jail. If you do that with me, you're going to fucking jail, and I live in Georgia. First of all, before you go to jail, you're going. You're getting shot in your ass, nigger.
Speaker 1:OK, so she ends up apologizing right no fuck to the family because the backup quarterback started getting a lot of heck, a lot of hell from what was going on. People you know in their dms and shit like that. Apparently this wasn't a nigga she was talking about.
Speaker 2:Oh, so she was talking about a completely different person, because she goes in, she says that.
Speaker 1:She says she ended up saying to the quarterback's family she says to the beautiful, to this beautiful family I am sorry for the media storm that happened last week that made its way into your lives. You had zero involvement in what I spoke about and in fact it was your relationship in college that I looked up to and wanted for me and Matthew. You were the couple that everyone thinks Matthew and I was. You were the UGA quarterback and cheerleader that met and never let go. I love y'all. So apparently the backup that everybody assumed it was because when you say backup, women say backup they just mean anybody who's not starting. Backup usually just means the guy who's the first to go in after the starter goes out. So the real backup quarterback he's married to a black woman. They got three mixed kids. He trying to basically live his life. This thing ain't going to no NFL tonight. He just trying to live his life and gets this like media storm of people.
Speaker 1:I saw somebody saying like he probably got the phone thrown at him, like when they saw this. But I don't see what she said. She didn't say they slept together like everybody put that on her, but all she said when she messed around she dated him. Like I thought that was so weird. But I did want to say like shout out to like Matthew Stafford and just the overall white race man, Y'all over there got y'all's to apologize. That's a chef's kiss right there, yo no cap, no cap. So we want to shit on some white people now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1:So JJ Redick just got announced to being the Lakers head coach, so that's a big, big deal for him. But when anytime you have success, you know your past will come behind you. So there was a woman who just recently came out, uh, and said I saw the person who called me the only time I've ever been called the n-word and I saw that person now getting a job for the los angeles lakers did he do it.
Speaker 2:We don't know who cares um I think I do really. Yeah, what does that?
Speaker 1:mean he's not gonna lose his job because he called her a nigga a decade ago.
Speaker 7:Well, or less than more than two decades ago.
Speaker 1:I still want people to know, I mean I don't mind people knowing either I actually heard of stories about jj reddick and being kind of like, especially because I I grew up in maryland, so duke was basically our number one top enemy, so I'd always heard like racial stuff about him and stuff like that. But I don't know, it's just interesting to see, like how anytime you get a little merit, a little nugget of success, like anything out the woodwork comes, do you feel like it was a, do you feel like as a woman that something could happen to you, and then you feel like you don't have to bring it up, but a stimulus can present itself that makes you now have to feel like you need to say something, because this happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like if you go through something that you don't want to talk about, that's completely fair. You don't have to talk about that. But if it becomes a hot topic or something that is popular in the media, then you might feel compelled to talk about that because of how many other younger women are going to be affected by your story than you on your own, specifically would. So, as somebody who was sharing their story as a victim, I never think that you're in the wrong, regardless of how long it takes you to tell your story as a victim, I think that you're. You're. You are giving us more education and you're doing, but you're it's.
Speaker 1:It's for the betterment of women in general I just feel like if he would have assaulted you like, because, remember, duke has some crazy stories that go on. They had like a lacrosse case that ended up being found out that the girl had, well, they said that she lied, but they said that the girl lied about it. But just to see Duke in that kind of era in that place, it's believable.
Speaker 2:That's the part that's like you kind of take a look at the university, the culture of the environment that the AMP you mean like the university, the culture of the environment, not the A&P Member.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, because to me, like Duke Dennis that's who you thought I was talking about I would think about the dark-skinned nigga more than I think about the institution.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it's funny. I wanted to say this too. Who do you think would win in a fight Duke, dennis or Honcho?
Speaker 2:Duke. You think Duke would beat two. Who do you think would win in a fight? Duke dennis or honcho duke? You think duke would be honcho. Okay, hold on, I forgot how what they bought the same size low key, you don't. You want to know what happened in my brain just now? I thought honcho was amp. No duke is amp no I thought honcho, what's his name? Phantom. I thought honcho was was.
Speaker 1:Phantom. Oh no, I'm talking about the rapper.
Speaker 2:I thought that it was Phantom against.
Speaker 1:No, phantom can't be none of those yeah yeah, phantom.
Speaker 2:That's why I immediately said the other nigga name Against who?
Speaker 1:Duke Duke versus Honcho.
Speaker 2:Yeah, duke is winning, I don't know, Honcho younger.
Speaker 1:Duke is the only nigga in amp that's winning. He's really not. He is. Y'all like him aesthetically, but he's not the biggest one out of all of them the rest of them, niggas, are either fat or short yeah, but they make way more money in the contest okay that's all.
Speaker 2:That's not what the fuck we talking about we're not talking about you glazing these niggas. We talking about who would win the physical fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 2:He's older than all of them. Yes, okay, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1:That's what you brought up. I thought you were saying that he's the best looking one out of the group.
Speaker 2:No, I'm talking about fighting wise.
Speaker 1:I didn't say the best looking one. I thought you were just saying he was the most successful one about who would win the fight.
Speaker 2:It looks like duke would win. He's over everybody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he owed up to be all day daddy. Yeah, that, no nigga like late, early 20s.
Speaker 2:He almost 30, and then I think I would give second to phantom oh yeah, he bigger than everybody he bullied them niggas anyway. Yeah, like I would give that to him.
Speaker 1:Second, definitely, but yeah all right, so let's finish up with this last little thing. Man, jonathan majors oh my god.
Speaker 2:So hollywood unlocked, gave jonathan majors?
Speaker 1:no because I'm just saying anytime you gotta start your shit with jason lee, you know you fucked up.
Speaker 2:What the fuck are we doing? So um? Hollywood unlocked, gave, gave, fuck. I forgot his name, I just had his name jonathan, okay, you hate black men, I'm gonna start over again. Hollywood unlocked gave jonathan majors a perseverance award. The woman who presented this award to him was a survivor of domestic violence abuse.
Speaker 1:Ayanna Van Zandt.
Speaker 2:So she thought that her giving him this award, which meant fucking nothing in the first place Because who the fuck is checking for hollywood unlocked fucking awards. Jason lee, honestly, you have thought that you were way too important in the black hip-hop space for way too long bitch because you're gay and nobody gives a nobody's scared of like coming at you and telling you that your opinion is irrelevant. It's not so. Your opinion is irrelevant because you're what?
Speaker 1:You're not black, not his poor journalism.
Speaker 2:Poor journalism, non-blackness. On top of that, you're like. You don't belong in our fucking category. In the first goddamn place for you to have such a big platform where people give a fuck about what you, what you talk about, nobody gives a fuck. You shouldn't have that platform. You're stupid. Your critical thinking skills are lacking. Everything that you report on a motherfucker is wrong. You are a sorry excuse for journalists and you're literally just a sorry excuse for a gay man who got fucking ahead because he's a gay man. That's it, and we like y'all better than we like the rest of us. I like a lot of gay men more than I like other black women. That's something I need to work on, and once we work on that, you fucking raggedy bitch, your platform is going downhill.
Speaker 1:That's what I have to say about that well, there's a's a few things regarding Jason Lee. I have a respect for anybody who can put their hands in the mud. You have a respect for anybody who's a slimy motherfucker, because I understand being a slimy motherfucker is what this kind of brand of media is about people know that you, um, you respect this nigga off of terms where regular people would not like him off of, but you have different.
Speaker 2:You have different. It didn't spill anything for real. You have different, um more like morals over what's good, or not well.
Speaker 1:I understand that, when it comes to being an analysis of the ethics of journalism, is there's a difference between normal ethics and what you're doing with the pen when you say the queen's dead and she's not. That's bad journalism my nigga.
Speaker 2:There's so much bad journalism that he's done.
Speaker 1:He's done tons of it but I also got to respect the fact that you would go back in the mud, put your hand. He reported remember the nigga I told you who I used to work for, that killed his mom on or killed his girlfriend on Mother's Day? He reported about that. No, no, I don't. Yeah Nigga I used to work with. He reported about that. That shit was all over Hollywood and a lot. And then also the award that they gave out to Jonathan Majors. They gave that to Melissa Ford before when she got back from her accident.
Speaker 2:Did you also know that the award that they gave him a survivor of domestic abuse gave him that award?
Speaker 1:Yes, I knew Ayanna Van Zandt was a survivor, that she's talked about it before.
Speaker 2:Like what? But to be fair we don't have any. You good black man fair?
Speaker 1:we don't have any, you good black man, but we don't. To be fair, the only thing we have, a quote, unquote, concrete proof of him, of is what we saw on the video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like everything else is just speculation. So you can't necessarily say he's a domestic, uh, an offender of domestic violence when the white woman hasn't put that out. She all, she all she said was they got into you know, conflicts. You have the, the text messages that say that you know, don't go to the hospital and tell them what happened. But that could have been anything, not great, that could have been anything. But what gave it was too much for me is this nigga really went up there crying. He went up there in bawling tears. I'm talking about I would have thought he was playing. He was in a slave movie trying to ask massa for some more uh, uh, greens. That ain't what he was doing. He was sitting there, defeated he felt like I didn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't see that part of the movie, you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:You can see the the clip when he went up there. No, I don't remember that he went up there, he basically started crying when he got on stage. She gave him the award and all that good jazz, and then he, uh, basically did you know went back, they left and you see him doing him. You know his little run around with making good.
Speaker 2:She looked nice, though, in that outfit first of all, making good has looked nice.
Speaker 1:I've never said she did, I'm just like she looked for three decades like there's no, like Megan.
Speaker 2:Good is gonna be playing the grandma in the movie and we gonna want to fuck the grandma like that's how good she looked. Period, it's a genetical thing with her. Her like hereditarily.
Speaker 1:That bitch is fine as fuck it's like she kind of like put all of her old genes into jonathan and so like she's kind of with him by default, because it's like he looked like he 45 years old and she looked like she 26 he probably took her oldness away, but I don't know, yeah, he absorbed the old genes for yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, I'm still very mad.
Speaker 1:Lovecraft country was canceled you thought I was gonna get another season. I didn't.
Speaker 2:It was literally a show about a white author and had niggas all in it and they were whooping the white people's ass yeah, like that shit wasn't going to get anything else unless that motherfucker was a number one in china lovecraft country was one of the shows that, like my afrofuturism brain, wanted to let happen in real life, so bad do we think that he can make?
Speaker 1:we've just seen the will smith uh situation kind of basically take a good turn.
Speaker 2:According he's had like five offers yeah nobody gave a fuck about will smith smack, smacking that fucking coon bitch, Chris Rock, when it comes to black people caring about what the fuck black people have going on. We know we have known that Chris Rock has been a coon who has been catering to white comedy for mad fucking long. So when Will Smith smacked him across the fucking face, regardless of what it was for but it happened to be for the defense of a black woman then nobody give a fuck, which is why Bad Boys 4 went fucking triple quadruple, fucking platinum.
Speaker 1:So I know you went full Negro on that. No, negroes care, I agree, white people care, it doesn't matter. Can I know you went full?
Speaker 2:Negro on there. No Negroes care, I agree.
Speaker 1:White people care, it doesn't matter. Can I explain? Why Can I explain? Why Can I explain?
Speaker 2:why it matters. Hold on, don't pull me closer to you. You're going to be away from your mic.
Speaker 7:No.
Speaker 2:No, because Negroes didn't care, because white people initially didn't care enough, these niggas don't give a fuck about what the fuck we do.
Speaker 1:If we don't give a fuck about it before we give a fuck about it. White people were literally crying the day when they saw that man get slapped yeah, because they cared about chris rock, not will smith, what I'm saying they they cared about what he did.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, and what I'm saying is I think our argument is you think white people cared about what happened to Chris Rock? And I'm specifically negating those white people and only taking into consideration the white and black people who felt good when they saw Chris Rock get smacked.
Speaker 1:And what I'm saying is I felt good, I was like smack this, nigger bitch, and what I'm saying is I felt good the way I was like smack this nigga bitch. And what I'm saying is that uh will smith. His rise back to grace is going to be similar to jonathan major's. Gonna have to do like he's gonna have to massage a lot of relationships. I know.
Speaker 2:I very I very vehemently wrong with you, because will smith barely had to do anything to get back into the good graces of the black people that's debatable who is the other person? You're comparing him to jonathan? Why do?
Speaker 1:you keep forgetting his man's name. You hate black men.
Speaker 2:No, you forgot julio's name, jonathan majors has. Literally the only thing that jonathan majors has been in that I give a fuck about is Lovecraft Country. Jonathan Majors has not.
Speaker 1:You like Creed 3.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:That's not my type of shit. You know my type of shit. I like magic shit, I like supernatural shit. So, lovecraft Country he was king shit. I like supernatural shit. So, um, lovecraft country I I was literally like my heart was pounding out of my chest when I was watching that show. It's something that I, as far as like af I.
Speaker 2:I did my term paper because I got a degree in africana studies on Afrofuturism and when it comes to Afrofuturism, lovecraft Country is a very perfect example of Afrofuturism, of what black people think that African fiction would look like if it were not for the intervention of white people in things of this nature. So that's why I think that's why I enjoyed it so much, because Afrofuturism was something that I enjoyed a lot and it's something that I chose to write my senior term paper on. I wrote about musicians, I wrote about Boosie Collins, I wrote about Missy Elliott, I wrote about Busta Rhymes. Like there was, like I connected it from way back in the day till now and and I connected how important black music, and black music that falls outside of the norm, is for black people, because it makes us think differently and it gives us a different imagination of what's possible for us, missy Elliott, busta Rhymes, andre 3000 are very, very important Baby.
Speaker 1:I greatly appreciate that phenomenal information that you provided, but what do you think about him? Do you think that there is a way that Jonathan Majors will get back into the good graces of white America, because that's who he has to get into good graces with.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck. No, he's not because you're a nigger. You're a nigger monkey who has a wide nigger nose and big nigger lips and you got some acting courses from another place but then, unfortunately, you put your hands on a white bitch, so your black nigger ass is not gonna be valuable to anybody past that ever again. And that is the choice that you made as an actor to be seen reputable in white spaces instead of black. You could have been in tyler perry fucking films, which we make fun of, but you wouldn't have gotten the perseverance award at hollywood and locked because there wouldn't have been nothing for you to persevere, because we would have been standing with you. Ten toes, nigga, ten toes.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to figure out. So last week when I made fun of all of the niggas on the West Coast and I was calling them niggers and all that other stuff, it was a problem with you last week.
Speaker 2:Okay, but what was your why? Why were you calling them that and why did you think that Drake deserves to be called more of a rap nigga as a Canadian half-white man, than niggas who literally went through the shit in Compton, who are fully black men? Why?
Speaker 1:So that second part, you're convoluting something we said when we were back on the couch.
Speaker 2:Oh, you convolute shit on a regular basis, so now I'm doing it. Continue and continue and answer the fucking question. Answer the convoluted ass question, because I'm tired of answering convoluted questions myself. But then you want answered fucking clear. No answer the convoluted bullshit. Go ahead drake.
Speaker 1:That, nigga, is the first answer to that, and then it doesn't make any sense continue when I was using nigger, I was using it as an expression of what racist white people and latinos.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then compare that to what I was just saying, to just now.
Speaker 1:I was about to tell you. I'm using what racist white people and racist hispanics were saying in their thought process to Compared to what I was saying.
Speaker 2:What was I saying? What are you talking about, compared to what I was saying? I want you to tie in what I was saying so that it can be relevant.
Speaker 1:What you were saying. You were calling Jonathan Nagers a nigger and talking about his lips and nostrils, and I just called the box nigger. Oh, look at this familiar nigger. But you told me don't do it, it's the same shit.
Speaker 1:It is. But you told me don't do it last week. That's the only reason I brought it up, Because you said, hey, why do you have to call them that? Why do you have to do that? And I'm like, because that's what the white people are thinking you, that's what you thought Okay, you, that's what you thought. Okay. Now I changed my opinion.
Speaker 2:That's what I think. Why does he get that? Because he's way more talented, but he didn't slap a white.
Speaker 1:He didn't do nothing. He didn't beat up a black woman.
Speaker 2:You disgust him like he beat up Megan. Good, jonathan Majors versus who were you talking about?
Speaker 1:again. I was just talking about what you were saying.
Speaker 2:Who were you talking about again Versus Jonathan talking about what you were saying. Who are you talking about again versus jonathan measures?
Speaker 1:well, mine was, it wasn't. Who are you talking about? That's what I'm asking you. Let me finish. You are not answering my question because the answer to your, because you're asking a bad question. To what?
Speaker 2:I did. I just forgot who I was comparing. You weren't comparing him to anybody. We were talking about your use of nigger. That's all I wanted to my use, because I thought I was um, you shamed him to a specific person you shamed me last week for calling other black men niggers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in relation to what white people were thinking, I don't like when you bring up shit that I said last week. I don't fucking even remember what the fuck I had for lunch. What the fuck did I have for lunch? You bringing up shit from last week and I don't even fucking remember what the fuck I said last week.
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