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Ever find yourself caught in a discussion that swings from dissecting viral gender debates to the raw truths of personal relationships? That's where we are this week, peeling back layers on topics that get under your skin and leave you reflecting on your own experiences. We're candid about the challenges faced in the realm of love and communication, revealing how a simple act of help out of a car can catapult into a societal debate on gender roles. And yes, we're getting real about those moments when partners choose Twitter over togetherness, sparking a conversation on the need for connection and the nuances of borrowing from gay culture in straight spaces.

Humor and gravity can be bedfellows, right? Join us as we navigate the tightrope walk of accountability among public figures, like Soulja Boy's social media antics and DJ Akademiks' serious allegations. We're stitching humor with hard-hitting discussions, dissecting Drake's public image and the peculiar whirlwind of celebrity rumors. Expect no punches pulled as we also contemplate the future of gay artists in hip-hop and engage in a profound debate about the delicacy required within student-teacher relationships, all while sharing personal anecdotes that might hit close to home.

As we wrap up, we're not shying away from the heated topics that spark fires in public discourse, like undervaluing women's professional accomplishments or the intense pressures and responsibilities of parenthood. The sports fans among you will appreciate our dive into the evolving face of femininity in sports and the spicy discussions that follow. And for the music lovers, we're breaking down recent releases and the balance between artists' creative peaks and what you, the listener, expect. So plug in, prepare to nod vigorously or shake your head in disbelief, and join us for a session that promises to be as entertaining as it is enlightening.

Speaker 1:

The masculine girl gets off first, puts her arm out, and then the girl comes out all dainty and there was a whole compilation of her doing that, just coming out all like I think that's overseas, though was it, Regardless of where it was, the? Shit was sexy. I was like ooh, mr Ma'am.

Speaker 2:

And why they trying to make it seem like Drake hit Lil Buddy. Like I don't like that.

Speaker 1:

That's what I heard, that he slapped that handy capable man.

Speaker 2:

No, just a person. As you know, they just beefing with somebody else and they didn't say it to somebody. Happy Mother's Day to somebody that knew their mother was dead. That's crazy. They just crashing out on him, that's still crazy.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

That's it All right. So we got some discussions we got to have here. Yeah, we got to bring it up to the forefront.

Speaker 1:

Because my husband is not husbanding.

Speaker 2:

That's how you're going to start it all. Yeah, that's nuts Like, just to even put that out there like that.

Speaker 1:

My husband is not husbanding. Well, yesterday he wasn't. Okay, I get home.

Speaker 2:

It's been a little dissension here, as we all can tell.

Speaker 1:

I get home it's been a little dissension here, as we all continue From a long day working for the what man and all I want to do is come home to my husband and cuddle up to him and tell him how my day was. I get home, he on the phone. I hear him from when I open the door. Ha ha, ha, ha ha, keep keying. I'm like, oh my God, he's in the spaces, he's in the Twitter spaces With WeWorks. I'm about sick of y'all, honestly.

Speaker 2:

There's good stuff going on.

Speaker 1:

I keep taking my husband away from me. So not only is he in these spaces, he runs up, gives me a quick, quick kiss while he's unmuting himself to say something in the fucking spaces, and then the whole night I don't see this man. He's in the other bedroom. The whole night doesn't even take out like 10 minutes to like come say hi to your wife that's not true.

Speaker 2:

You walked into the room. You walked into the room we spoke. Don't do that. You walked into the room we spoke and I got you food, so don't do that you didn't get me food, so so oh, I forgot that.

Speaker 1:

I was like babe, let's go out, you know, get some wings and a drink. And he's like no, I'm going to send you some money on DoorDash, you can order it.

Speaker 2:

No, because I already ate. Don't do that. I told you I had already ate.

Speaker 1:

I ate at like 6 o'clock, it's 9 o.

Speaker 2:

I'll wait for you to get home to eat again, but I was running around.

Speaker 1:

I had some errands I was doing and I stopped and got me some food. Anyhoo, this nigga ignored me for the entire night because he was in the spaces with his bros talking to men Talking to men.

Speaker 2:

I'll take it. I'll take it. I'm sorry and it won't happen again.

Speaker 4:

Gay.

Speaker 2:

Like what, and I promise baby it won't happen again.

Speaker 1:

It was and I apologize, it won't happen again and he talk about oh, joe was in there.

Speaker 2:

I mean, he did jump in there with us. It was cool.

Speaker 1:

He was like Joe was freestyling. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2:

He had some bars in there For niggas.

Speaker 1:

It was funny this pussy could have been spitting.

Speaker 5:

I'm just saying he had some bars for niggas in there.

Speaker 2:

He had bars for niggas in there. It was funny, it was a good time. Niggas was laughing, niggas was kiki-ing. I'm ashamed of you, it was epic, it was epic, it was epic.

Speaker 1:

Not only was you kiki-ing with men instead of spending time with your wife, you just sat here on this couch and said, kiki, I can't say that, no, so niggas can't say nothing, no more in your book.

Speaker 6:

Niggas can't say tea no.

Speaker 4:

Niggas can't say tea.

Speaker 1:

Because why was Drake and Joe at Ish and Ice and all of them they was on that podcast throwing tea around like it was just regular? I was like look at these very heterosexual black men using ballroom gay slang like it's just normal.

Speaker 2:

It's good for y'all. It's normalizing.

Speaker 1:

Good for y'all, it's normalizing.

Speaker 2:

Good for y'all.

Speaker 1:

But I thought it was interesting, let's get to it.

Speaker 5:

Talk to him. To me, money to the side. Don't let no niggas leave you dry. Stand no business. If they say it's up, you better ride. Keep the family first. Put that in front of everything. Bet that on yourself. If you gonna roll the dice on anything, any points to be made, don't be scared to prove it, and you better look fucking good when it's using how to move out here.

Speaker 5:

You know this shit get ugly. I had a bitch. You me the dirtiest but claim to love me. I went through hella shit and back to be kicked up the coffee. You see how hard I grind little bitch. Don't never call me love or call me you fuck. A nigga good enough and he don't think he on you. The broke ones usually insecure. The rich ones try to control you. That's why it's always best to choose the one that's real and loyal, cause money come and go and it's some shit you can't teach. Time gonna always separate the hustlers from the leeches. The loudest is the weakest. Give a fuck about what they screaming and don't be matching fucked up energy with hoes in no way. This is my shit. This white boy put his whole foot in this goddamn song. He was going hard. He was going hard. I'm a million dollar baby, don't ask me.

Speaker 4:

Oh hell, nah you wreck my city for so damn long, but you still don't notice me. Sal, next V. Next nothing. Next, I'm running up the chest. I see your back. Oh, mama, she a diva. Tomorrow I can see you. I come between us again. I know I'm better than friends, better than I am friends. I threw the queen's game Showed around my friends Tried to pick some energy up. It don't matter, I know you'll never move on. If you try, I don't believe it. Baby, I know you're lost. Oh, now you're gone. What you mean I changed. I stayed the same. Help me lose my mind. Said the city is mine. I ain't never representing, ain't doing no wrong.

Speaker 7:

Ain't doing no good for you. We'll be right back. I drop me these lil nigga, push back. I count up. You look at my contract. I count up. You look at my contract. I'm cool, nigga, I don't want your content. I know many men they proud I don't win. I still got that ride with that compact. I'm riding that color now you smell the colors. I came along. Wait, that's a big fact. Big on the one of your big fat. Got your bitch chicken and I can dispatch and my money. I don't wanna chit chat, don't care if it gotta be a couple of years. I'm stealing, I'm gonna get. We'll be right back. Outro Music. Everybody got what big a problem and yet I'm building a company and when I'm faking it I act like they traded. I swear, I want no apology. One of the greatest guy fans in the city, every state. And that's my reality. Southside, rindown, mallory, holiday burn like calories.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Hello, that was good.

Speaker 2:

You ate that Well yeah, I had to get back to the app, so I needed some more adjectives.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow, okay, so it wasn't just love.

Speaker 2:

See how you do. See how you got to turn everything poisonous. That's crazy. Why do you do that?

Speaker 1:

You could have just took it and been like oh yeah, because I love you so much, baby, salute.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even know. You know it's a skill. I'm just trying to show my skill, and then you tried to gaslight me into thinking I ruined it.

Speaker 1:

Look at how I'm treated on a regular basis. Thank God I'm not an idiot.

Speaker 4:

Oh man.

Speaker 2:

All right, so we got to get to this. That was hilarious. You were on the clock right here. We have to bring you up to the front because there's been a prior clip that's come out from this show that you've expressed and that you adore this individual to a high order and he's crossed the line oh yeah. He's crossed the line. So Dwayne, dwayne, way wallet not talk, to talk for your man.

Speaker 1:

DeAndre, I think is what I think you said, d said duane duane deandre way all right, no, speak to your boy.

Speaker 2:

So no, really like talk about it I generally enjoy his antics. Uh, right up until now oh now, yeah, wasn't none of the other stuff he's done well, has he done other like serious shit that I'm unaware of? I mean, he's just been disrespectful on the Internet, for I mean, yeah, it's almost a decade and a half.

Speaker 1:

He hasn't like told anybody he was rolling up. They dead mother.

Speaker 2:

OK, well, explain to the audience.

Speaker 1:

Soulja Boy on Mother's Day for some. I don't even know what prompted him to do this. Okay, well, I can explain. That. Was Metro talking about Soulja Boy?

Speaker 2:

There was an old tweet that came out from Metro that was like 12 years old, like it was, yeah, 12 years old where he was like we getting.

Speaker 1:

Soulja Boy was in a Coke bender, so he said allegedly, allegedly so no, he was.

Speaker 2:

Basically it was a tweet where Metro was saying we getting Jeezy versus and y'all getting Soulja Boy packs or whatever. And that came out because you know everybody going through everybody's old tweets. And then Soulja Boy reacted. You know, I understand when Soulja Boy does this he's just looking for clout.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Soulja.

Speaker 2:

Boy was like happy Mother's Day. Well, yeah, that was after he said. He told him to delete this in 24 hours. And then 21 Savage said or what?

Speaker 1:

Nobody's gonna listen to you. What are you gonna do, Soulja?

Speaker 2:

Boy, I mean, he thinks he's Big Soulja.

Speaker 1:

Like you really can't do anything for real.

Speaker 2:

And then on Mother's Day, that's when he said Happy Mother's Day to Metro. And if you don't know Metro's situation, he did lose his mother a few years back to a murder suicide horrible, like horrible way, so rip for that definitely. But no, uh, social boy is crashing out. You gotta speak for him.

Speaker 1:

That's your man just because I like people's antics don't mean they my man's hey, he was my man's in middle school. In this situation, that's your man he's not my man's in this situation, because I don't agree with this whatsoever okay, so we know he's in the wrong.

Speaker 2:

In a situation like this, for real, this is really a man and he going crashing out like this, what do you do?

Speaker 1:

if this is really my man's, if this was like smino doing this, I would well an artist that I actually like and no, just say it's just a person.

Speaker 2:

as you know, they just beefing with somebody else and they didn't say it to somebody. Happy Mother's Day to somebody that knew their mother was dead. That's crazy. They're just crashing out on them, that's still crazy.

Speaker 1:

If I know you personally and you say that I'm going to say some shit to you, I'm going to be like. You need to apologize immediately.

Speaker 2:

You got to do it on the same platform or how you got to do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you disrespected somebody publicly, you need to apologize.

Speaker 2:

Well, privately first, and then publicly you're not asking no questions like what? Why did you say that?

Speaker 1:

there's no reason. Why would you? Why would you say that? Because why would you say that?

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying somebody could have disrespected you in a really you know, public manner and you just returned in the favor.

Speaker 1:

He didn't, though.

Speaker 4:

I'm just saying technically he did, but he did disrespect me in a public manner.

Speaker 2:

Not in that fashion. It wasn't a one for one no, I'm just saying, in a situation where someone did disrespect you in a public manner, could you see yourself saying to somebody else like okay, I can see why you went there? No, I've seen it before. I've seen some girls who was like it was. I think it was back in college and the girl was stealing from another girl, like doing some real wild stuff to her, and then they got into a big heated argument.

Speaker 8:

She brought up that and most people nobody was mad at her everybody was like she got you right there, dog like well you've been being foul out here she could say that to you.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, it depends on the situation, I guess, because if it's, if you're doing something like real grimy and my friend is like, oh, fuck your dead mama, I don't know if, depending on the griminess level of what you did to my friend, I'm gonna have.

Speaker 2:

I mean, to be honest, we it wasn't that too long ago where niggas was just doing that to the remember the racist podcaster we talked about yeah niggas was doing that to him.

Speaker 1:

He was being racist, though, so okay so there's an example. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You would take it there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I mean, hey, I'm changing my answer.

Speaker 2:

I mean because, like, yeah, there's another clip of you saying that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, I'm definitely changing my answer and, god damn, I forgot what I was going to say. Continue.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say so, I was going to add on. So Soulja Boy did end up apologizing.

Speaker 1:

He did?

Speaker 2:

He ended up trying to save face.

Speaker 1:

He also said that he was going to get therapy and anger management.

Speaker 2:

He did this. Man is a clown. He know what he doing. Like he trying to be funny and try to play around, but he know what he doing.

Speaker 1:

He said I apologize to Metro Boomin for overreacting over an old tweet. Condolences to his mom. I'm going to seek therapy and anger management. I'm done responding to hate, new or old. You're lying, Soulja Boy. No, you're not done responding to hate, You've made a career of responding to hate.

Speaker 2:

at this point, that's literally been his since, probably what? 2016, maybe, 17 yeah he's been doing this crashing out because I think he did the chris brown shit he's been yelling at cameras for mad long I hope it ain't the drugs, like you were saying. I hope it really ain't because that is it man it's probably the drugs.

Speaker 2:

It's just like I don't understand why he feel like because he older than me. So I'm trying to understand what in your mind, frank feel like you still got to do this because it ain't like he used to do it, where he would drop some music afterwards to try to get niggas to listen to his music. I don't even think he dropped nothing Like this, was just all a spectacle.

Speaker 1:

We don't know what Soulja Boy is dropping. Only the hoodest of niggas know what Soulja Boy is dropping.

Speaker 2:

And again, I respect Soulja Boy for the grind that he came out with and the dances and all that stuff. But we got to be honest, the last, like probably after the little Superman wave, all he did was jack niggas like swag the whole time, like whatever niggas was doing. I remember Wiz Khalifa came out. He had his little Ocean Gang and all that other shit like that. Like he just copy niggas waves yo, like for like almost half a decade.

Speaker 1:

Which was so unnecessary. Longer than that, probably a decade, because he basically pioneered his own wave.

Speaker 2:

I mean he came with the dance stuff but that stuff don't never last. You can't make a career off of making dance songs like that. Like his way.

Speaker 6:

No.

Speaker 2:

You can make dance music and have a career. You can't make dance songs the way he was doing. You do one of those, you don't do a bunch of them I mean in the age of tiktok. He could have definitely used that as like a resurgence, because I mean I don't feel like he ever really fell off because the kids love that shit because he's doing like streaming, he twitch and all that kind of stuff like that, so regardless, yeah, so he's doing other stuff that's keeping them relevant music.

Speaker 2:

It's just. I just hate when it comes to this, where it just feels it feels it always feels desperate when he does this like it never feels like a genuine like oh, this is who soldier is, this is who he about. You know, you don't step, no, it just you feel like you're joking the whole time and you just try to take it as far as you can on, like some some six, six, nine shit.

Speaker 1:

We being honest I brought this up before, but I remember very, very early when I was actually a social boy fan and he had like his youtube uh page where he would drop vlogs and all of his vlogs were him like running around being a silly ass teenage boy, like he was hilarious and he was so like he was literally always laughing and that's why I liked him so much he felt real, this is he was literally just a silly kid and this doesn't seem like the same thing or I don't know, but this doesn't.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you. It doesn't seem like it's actually him, it just seems like um a tactic for clout.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it just. It just seemed like a nasty facade. I hate that. I hate that he had to go out this way because that's all that. That's all there's ever been so far. Like we really had a few songs in between. Don't don't get me wrong. He didn't drop some hits in between these little up and down spurts. But just to see like him doing the reality shows, the way he was doing it, like all that stuff just paints him in such a negative light and it's like we really haven't got to see him just be clear-minded, positive and like not an asshole like you know what I'm saying, he kind of is an asshole I just hate to see that for him for real yeah, all right.

Speaker 2:

So, man, you kind of like a prophet with this next thing we about to bring up, because you just got done kicking the nigga back in in one of our videos and he just had what I was thinking probably the biggest part, the biggest highlight of his career. He was shining, he was up, he was getting music, debuting everybody's diss track, and then he gets the lawsuit yeah, I was manifesting his downfall and I keep telling you I'm powerful so, dj academics?

Speaker 2:

uh, we have a lawsuit, a sexual assault lawsuit, um civil case. Uh, this is coming from the same woman who did. I think we talked about this too when this happened.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we just didn't know the detail, yeah, of like everything that actually happened. So there's a full lawsuit and then, um, I'm not a lawyer but she did a whole like breakdown of it on tiktok. But, um, basically she, um, she was going over axe house. This was someone that she like regularly dealt with, so they, they had, she had been over there a couple times before. And, um, in the lawsuit it says that act goes to his two friends. So these are like, um, just man one and man two. So he goes up to his friends and he tells them that like, oh, she told me that she's on a different type of time and she and her bad girl are now and she blah, blah, blah, like she down for whatever. So he lets them know this before she gets there.

Speaker 1:

Um, she gets there and the man one opens the door and she has no idea that anybody other than act, uh, is supposed to be in the house. So she's supposed to go be with her nigga or whatever like. But this man, um, answers the door and she's like, okay, whatever, she feels weird about it, but she goes inside anyways. And then man number two is in the kitchen. Um, they keep trying to get her to like have a drink, and she's like no, I usually make my own drinks when I'm here. So she wants to do that, but they force her and they keep telling her and telling her to take the drink. So she eventually takes the drink and then they make it seem like they're going to leave. So she like gets in the hot tub. But then they get in the hot tub with her. She thinks the academic is coming down. He still hasn't come down. So then they she starts feeling like woozy and like lightheaded and stuff from the first drink and she feels weird. And then they start like allegedly force feeding her alcohol, like pouring it down her throat in the hot tub with her. And then she like is scared, she thinks that she might drown in the hot tub. She tries to leave the hot tub. She's she falls on the concrete. She falls on the concrete and then when she falls on the concrete is when she's attacked by man number one and then attacked by man number two. She wakes up, um, she's like groggy in between. Um, she's in. She wakes up with act also attacking her.

Speaker 1:

After that 4 am she wakes up in ax room not remembering anything that happened and then, um, he's like, yeah, my mom's coming over, you gotta go. Um. He's like, do you remember anything last night? And she's like, no, I don't remember anything. And he shows her like screenshots of the security footage and she's like laying lifeless, with a man on top of her in the screenshot. So she's like I, this doesn't seem like me, like I don't think I would have agreed to this, like I don't remember agreeing to this. Um, so that's the whole thing. So, uh, they text back and forth. After she goes home, she tries to get more information and he's like you should get tested, and I'm probably going to get tested too.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So that's the screenshots that we see from the trial that were made available to the public.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and D-Jag has already gone on his own platform most times and have denied all the claims. He's even also stated that the police came to his home. He showed them all of you know the surveillance footage and everything from his home and they didn't find any way to, at least at this point, any evidence to support a criminal charge for this. That's why they're going the civil route. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know. Nobody was there. We haven't seen any of the evidence and things of that nature. Just from what I take act to be. I haven't seen any of the evidence and things of that nature. Just from what I take act to be.

Speaker 1:

I didn't go to see any of the like pictures unblurred, but like I saw the pictures of just like bruises and stuff on her body, like all down her spine and stuff. That's the only thing. Yeah, that's what I saw.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, that's what I had there. He's like he swears up and down. He has everything in his home 's you know cctv type shit. I can. I can believe that, just because if I'm somebody who talks about the negative stuff that's going on and I know somebody who's having a situation that they're being told this happened about them and they saying they didn't, I would have my whole home super recorded, like we. Everything, anywhere you go except the bathroom, is recorded. So I mean I can completely understand where if he says that, and I can believe that. But again, I don't know. I'm not going to stay on anyone's side. I'm not trying to defend anyone. I just can see that this is like crazy timing. Like we've seen her video where she came out with it and we don't know if Tom can tell Ak is going to be in some shit.

Speaker 1:

Though Apparently he said that if he goes down for this case he's taking the whole industry down with him. Does he have the whole industry stuff to take down with him?

Speaker 2:

I would assume so if you're making claims like that. I mean he would be somebody who gets a lot of dirt from people and I can imagine he's even stated himself that he's not reported on things just because he was trying to help the artist's safe face in a way that he maybe didn't feel like it was trying to help the, you know, the artist's safe face in a way he maybe didn't felt like it was going to do them a disservice. So he said he has held contact back before.

Speaker 2:

OK so we'll see what's going on with that. I mean, I just think it just sucks to see all this shit going on like this, like you don't want to see anyone go through anything like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then, I wanted.

Speaker 1:

I was preying on his downfall, but not by proxy of somebody else going through something this traumatic Like definitely not.

Speaker 2:

And then also, as a man, you don't want to see someone potentially being allegations on them because, like I said, they had sexual assault lawsuits in there no-transcript. So it's going to be tough. We'll see what happens. I'm going to stay on to it most definitely. I'm going to bring it back up here a few times because I mean got to hold you accountable Act.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to I'm Not A Lawyer but on TikTok, because she does an amazing job on like reading things and breaking them down, because I'm not reading those things.

Speaker 2:

I mean, she does a good job of spinning her narrative the way she wants to spin it, because a lot of that stuff that she was saying she made it seem like this was something they seen factual, that the police were saying and not her statement. But she, the way she read it, she saved face with it, but it still didn't create the idea that this is a statement from somebody and not actually 100 percent, you know, documented fact, that's all.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's a case, so you have to. Yeah, no, I'm just. You know that it's not facts until it's just when you read all those documents.

Speaker 2:

It's just the reason I say that and I don't want to feel like I'm defending, but I'm just saying when you read stuff like that on a document that's a court document like that, and you kind of don't have the right context in your head, you can make assumptions from the information. You don't take this as as. You don't take this as potential evidence. You may take this as the cold hard truth. So that's the only thing, what's? I'm staying on to it, and if this nigga is a nasty nigga, we're gonna kick his back.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna kick his back in regardless salute, all right.

Speaker 2:

So I wanted I don't want to say too much on the drake show. I know we've been talking about that a lot I don't even know what's happening with the.

Speaker 1:

It's just gotten so, nobby. It's gotten so, not like so ebony prince to uh 2k 24.

Speaker 2:

He's the one claiming he has the information, apparently like he worked for some hotel that Drake was staying at. Drake left some stuff, ended up getting like his chain. He left his stuff there. They told him he did. He only asked for like a chain that he left and everything else stayed. What I heard was that because of the hotel's rule you you know after 90 days they just give it to employees, you have to forfeit it.

Speaker 2:

No, they rule you. You know, after 90 days they just give it to. You have to forfeit it. No, they give them to employees. If you don't come back and claim your uh property in 90 days, they'll just take the shit and just give it to you know, employee or whatever. So that's where all the other stuff came from. This nigga been wilding on the internet have you seen this shit?

Speaker 1:

I've seen the tweets and stuff, but I haven't like taken my time to read all of them because it was so many of them.

Speaker 2:

Man, no, but the video is. What's the creepy shit? The video is.

Speaker 1:

I saw the video. Yeah, Nigga had shoestrings holding up the pill bottles. I didn't see that video. I saw the video of Drake meeting the reporter in the hotel, like the CCTV footage, yeah, he exposed that.

Speaker 2:

But, like, actually, while he was showing that footage the stuff was to the left I think, but he showed a whole little clip where he had the shirt that was in the cover art, had the little pill bottles and shit, like this nigga's really a nutso. They've claimed to figure out who he is. He's like some brother, some heavyset black guy, but I don't know. So I didn't get a name for him. I just seen some pictures. They said that was potentially him. It was just crazy. Just all this stuff is going on then, like you said, the footage and why they try to make it seem like drake hit little buddy, like I don't like that that's what I heard that he slapped that handy capable man and that's chris alvarez.

Speaker 2:

He's a journalist, so salute to chris alvarez. He do his thing. He's like a celebrity journalist and he does like talk about disability stuff. I read a little bit of the article where he responds to all these allegations but niggas wanted Drake to slap this little man so bad. I don't understand it.

Speaker 1:

I don't get it. People want to think that Drake is the type of person who would slap somebody in a wheelchair.

Speaker 2:

Why do y'all want Drake to be Malik Wright? I don't know if y'all get that one.

Speaker 1:

Y'all have to watch the game because he's remember, he punched a nigga in the wheelchair. I like I had to process that for a little bit before I realized drake is not malik, right okay like he is not gonna be out here punching uh. Handicapable people especially someone has watched the game this man many times in completion.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying, like, who else has a better slap on a disabled person? Like you, tell me the content that does that. Who goes that?

Speaker 9:

far I can't.

Speaker 2:

Only Kelsey Grammer. But no, I hate that y'all try to do this. Y'all really want Drake to be the worst human being ever. And I blame Drake for a reason because his disregard of black media. So in some of the spaces that we were, I was in, uh, I did bring up this topic. I was like, do we think that the reason why Drake the loss feels so strong in a way is because black media has turned their back on him? Because he did do the Bobby interview. Niggas was mad about that. He did the little uh barstool interview with his son. Niggas was really upset about that. Yeah so, and he has not done any big black interview platform in probably since scorpion, when he was doing the talking about the kids stuff and he talked to braun and talked to elliot like we haven't seen him do anything since then.

Speaker 2:

I could just see, like I knew he lost black media for real. For real was when Nadeska acted like she was just so insulted by that slave line. You saw that when she was with Ebro. No, I didn't watch that man. She brought out the oh my God, how could you do this? And I'm sitting there like N nadeska, don't do that. She put all like I've never seen a desk to put that kind of sauce on shit since everyday struggle.

Speaker 2:

When she was out there dealing with act and all that shit, like she put so much sauce and hate on that uh review of his his line, and I was like y'all trying to be so disingenuous this. But it makes sense though, because even Ebro was kicking his back in like he hasn't done. Ebro was definitely kicking his back in he hasn't done black media in, almost, like I said, been now close to what half a decade. Yeah so I just thought it was interesting that that was kind of the case, and do you think that could have had a effect?

Speaker 1:

Definitely, because he's not like he can with black media at all. The only black like hip-hop platform that he interacts with is joe joe budden podcast I mean, and that's even on a very surface level, and yeah, there's a lot of hate. They're like frenemies yeah, there's like a lot of hate and disrespect between those kind of interactions so it's not even I think, uh, if he regularly interacted with those platforms and they might have felt like a slight bias to maybe, um, be in favor of him yeah, or show him some grace during this beef, but he hasn't done that.

Speaker 1:

So I think it has negatively affected him, but kendrickrick also. I don't think it negatively affects Kendrick because he don't talk to nobody. Yeah, I mean he does a few little interviews in some magazines Once in a while when he's like rolling something out, but for the most part you don't hear from him, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

It was just very interesting to see these kind of little integral parts in there. I just think this nigga was psyched out like he talking about Drake line. You know, act, you need to put this down or I'm suing you. Like this nigga, ebony, when they say Ebony Prince, this nigga is psyched out. Apparently it was. I was hearing one little rumor. They said he was part of the LBGTQ and like that's like they little thing to put an ebony in front of their name for whatever. Like it's like a code name.

Speaker 4:

Oh man.

Speaker 2:

Like you got to like dig into these little rabbit holes and stuff.

Speaker 1:

There's too many rabbit holes.

Speaker 2:

It's the best thing ever, though.

Speaker 1:

Because you don't. You don't know what's actually factual and what's just like a crazy person who has too much time and who's just like making shit up on the internet what?

Speaker 2:

because I thought that was potentially what this was but why does it even matter, man it's, it's just golden it is speaking of golden.

Speaker 1:

Are we off this? Yeah, we can go okay, speaking of golden, that reminds me of selena powell. You do you know that she literally told people that she drank academics urine? And now, clay from love is blind is like publicly dating this bitch I don't know like kissing her on the mouth on video and posting it.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not even just her, though, like he was out with Willow Ryder. I don't know if you're familiar with her, remember I told you I did a space with her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, y'all interviewed the adult film star.

Speaker 2:

Yeah she was out there. She was really cool, nice lady.

Speaker 1:

Top journalism.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm out there, I'm out there doing it, I'm out there doing the hard work and the hard labor. But no, it's just so funny to see her out there because, like I said, she's a nice looking girl, everything. But it's very obvious he I was right about him, like everything I said about him in my analysis he does not like women that look like ad dark-skinned women and that was very evident because, period, the two women that we're associating with of the nightlife are both of that hue they were.

Speaker 1:

Clay was saying that he didn't like ad's um lifestyle and blah, blah, blah. But selena powell's lifestyle is literally ad's lifestyle, on steroids, like completely like snowballed out of control. So that's, that wasn't the thing. You were just making up excuses because you just didn't like this woman, which is fine. But you should have just said that and we all knew that and you were lying.

Speaker 2:

But you know what he did it for? He's trying to get them bands for him. They had to stay up there so they can get the whole thing yeah, I'm not mad at him so, but clay's mom has hit the internet oh yeah, clay's mom, that's a stand-up lady. Go ahead this is how you know. When a black lady's upset, they start inventing holidays. Happy new day. What is that? What is a?

Speaker 2:

happy new day every day first, my number one rule for folks following me on social media don't be, don't send me anything inappropriate. I'm not gonna call you out. However, you know who you are. Second, I didn't know who cp selena powell was until everyone started sending me her youtube information. It's very interesting to throw up emoji that some men will lose everything. Thinking we'll lose everything. Thinking that's funny, mama. That the apple is good, but it's a forbidden choice. Do better. The deceiver uses old tricks to attack and destroy Clayton Alexander. That's how you know you're in trouble.

Speaker 1:

She said your full name.

Speaker 2:

You know, jesus will allow things to occur. He is still trying to get your attention.

Speaker 4:

Please surrender to him.

Speaker 2:

Oh, clay you in trouble.

Speaker 1:

She said the devil sent that woman and you will not bring her into my home period when your mama start bringing up Jesus unprovoked. You know, you know she upset yeah, you know you done disappointed her.

Speaker 2:

And then this is how you know she's an educated woman. She puts in closing. She let you know I'm done here wrapping this up in closing, I pray that everyone reading this gives the same attention to other things that matter, like helping support your local food banks and volunteer in your local communities.

Speaker 4:

Tap link in bio. Oh she out here hustling, I pray that everyone has a wonderful day.

Speaker 2:

on purpose Signed Straight Shooter.

Speaker 1:

Period she done, took her little 15 minutes of fame and branded herself.

Speaker 2:

She got to write a bell hook book.

Speaker 1:

Clay reposted that on his story and said Heard you, Mom? Heart emoji. My apologies, Selena unfollowed him. After that the relationship was over before we could even talk about it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not mad, though, like I said, willow's a nice girl. When I spoke with her she was real sweet, she had some funny conversations, she could joke around, she liked her job. I mean, can't get mad at that.

Speaker 1:

She's a sweet girl. Clay was really acting like he wanted to be married. No, you didn't want to be married. You, he wanted to be married. No, you didn't want to be married. You wanted to be seen so that you could gallivant on a different level than you were before.

Speaker 2:

We knew what was going on, man.

Speaker 1:

We knew what was up it's okay, just stay out of women's way who want to settle down and get married. There's so many women who want to gallivant and have fun too. Go be with them, he was he got Selena? He got Willow. Why was he on? He took him out of time. He took.

Speaker 2:

Willow out of the country.

Speaker 1:

Why was he on that goddamn show in the first place?

Speaker 2:

To get some money To get that 10 racks. I think that's what it was right 10 racks.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know if it was that much, honestly, I think to get the max was 10 racks.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I mean that's what my man was doing, I'm not mad at him. Get to it. You got to get to the paper, can't get mad at it.

Speaker 1:

No, I think it was just for clout. I don't think it was for money, because Clay has like 17 businesses. He could have made that. He could have made more than that while he was outside of the pods.

Speaker 2:

He probably lost money being in the pods cashing checks from going doing appearances.

Speaker 1:

That's easy money. No, I'm saying it was for clout.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to get easy money. Yeah, so he could do other things. Upgrade his profile.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't think it was for the 10K.

Speaker 2:

Oh for sure, I mean, 10k is a good little, it's an icing on the cake, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why we got to take that.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't scoff at 10K. We got to take that to the date. We got to take that to the date.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying. It was probably more like 665 after taxes.

Speaker 2:

Hey, that's still good. Good, come up. Like ah, help you break even, right? So I know you be hating the spaces, but there was some other information I learned in the spaces what did you learn in the spaces?

Speaker 2:

it was a guy as a DJ that came in and he was telling us he was a DJ for you know, he worked with a lot of different artists and one specifically that he was working with was your girl, sexy Ray, and he dropped some you know some good stuff in there.

Speaker 2:

He told me something I didn't know and I wasn't even 100% sure on. He said that Sexy has two writers that write for her and they're two gay guys and they write all of her bars and all that shit. They're the ones who basically are the words behind Sexy Red. He told me he talked to him and he asked him. He was like so why y'all don't do music for y'all, since y'all are the geniuses behind her? They said that they don't feel like if they was to do the music and be front-facing, it wouldn't be accepted as saying because they gay guys. And I was just wondering do you think that where we at now, in 2024, we're still at this point where gay men couldn't be a front face of a big music rollout profile a la like a sexy red?

Speaker 1:

not a hip-hop I mean black people are still like the black culture. Hip-hop culture I'm not gonna say black people hip-hop culture is still like generally homophobic. I can agree with that. So I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2:

I think, uh, we have gotten more comfortable with seeing things like that, like saucy santana and I don't think little nas can't is not hip-hop, he's pop and that's that's what my argument would have been accepted in pop for a very long time, being a gay man, so so do you think like so you don't think there's gonna be a time in our lifetime where someone who's like a saucy Santana could have a number one in hip hop openly gay man putting out music and it's a number one in just hip hop. It don't have to be Billboard number one like Kendrick. Yeah, I do say when I say something wrong. I did say on the last show that Kendrick's only number one was this solo number one was, uh, not like us. I was wrong.

Speaker 1:

He also got number one for humble. I'm sorry, but yeah, back to saucy um. I eventually, I, I don't know, I really can't see it happening for real that shit gotta slide, that got to really slide it really has to be like. The girls have to be like because Frank tricked us, like on rotation. Frank tricked us, frank didn't trick us, we knew Frank was gay.

Speaker 2:

Niggas didn't know Frank was gay. Niggas did not know that tornado was a man. We knew Frank was a fruit. We didn't know that tornado that came around the room was a man. We didn't. I'm'm just saying niggas was that, was was shocked. I was. I was oh whoa. What are we talking about here again? I thought we was talking about a girl.

Speaker 2:

I thought we were thinking about her yeah, he, I wasn't surprised that that man was not straight I think somebody could pull a frank and hip-hop, though, whereas like they're not openly gay and they can get a slap off, they would come out as gay, they would have to come off as like trade. Yeah, for sure you'd have to be a shape-up nigga.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like you would. You would have to not be feminine in the slightest bit but do we?

Speaker 2:

I think we're going to get to a point where a feminine guy can make a hip-hop song and it's going to go. It might not be a white, it might be a white guy first, but I can see a feminine trait like that, especially with female hip-hop taking off the way it is the um that chasing atlanta, no, chasing houston, I think chasing reality in dallas chasing dallas it's chasing d's what I said in the comments.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So Chasing Reality in general, I think Seven and Keecee and Astro all of them have different aesthetics, All of them are rappers, All of them are obviously gay Kesey Lee so but all of them have like gay lyrics, Like you could tell they gay. I feel like one of them eventually, like somebody like that could eventually make it in hip hop. I just feel like it's going to have to be the gays and the girls that have like are the power and the gas behind making a gay black man number one in hip-hop. It's gonna have to be the gays and the girls. And then black women are not always on board with the gays, unfortunately I mean it, it's true.

Speaker 2:

I I feel what you're saying because, as you, the more you talk about it, it's just like the demographic that actually supports them is just entirely too small for them to break through.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's too small to happen.

Speaker 2:

It's like the people who would want to see you win. It's too small to even that even be a thing.

Speaker 1:

That's why Saucy Tantana got dropped from his label. He's not even signed, no more.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's tough, though, like you said, it's especially when you ain't being able to produce a hit like that, because everything that he does is going to be 100 shock value, like it's not going to be really somebody going to give your music a fair shot yeah, regardless of like how good the music is, it's, it's automatically going to be niche no, I understand all right.

Speaker 9:

So I'm gonna play this because, since it was on this topic, it's kind of adjacent so the bitches in my comments calling me a self-hating gay, I have a question for you. So what do I do as a parent that's raising a child in a gay household, and if I allowed him to see me kissing and having affection with another man, since y'all feel like that's so important, what do you do when that little boy that has seen you kiss a man in the mouth and hold his hand and do all that cuddle, lovey-dovey shit? What do you do when your little boy goes over to somebody else's house and he does it because he thinks that it's okay, when it's really not, and now somebody want to harm my baby or they whooping on him or mistreating him because they're calling him gay? What do you do then?

Speaker 9:

When are y'all bitches gonna get it through y'all head that it's just not okay and it's a time and a place. That doesn't make me a self-hating gay, that does not make me not love myself. This gay shit just ain't that important to the point where my kid has to see it. What about his well-being? Huh, that's my question for y'all bitches that's always in my comments, asking me or telling me what I should and shouldn't be doing. Why is this gay shit that important, huh?

Speaker 1:

my first question to him would be why would he think that his son seeing gay affection in the first place would negatively affect his child? Not his son, his child in general?

Speaker 2:

or the behavior would be. If my kid goes over to somebody's house, like if I see my parents be affectionate with each other and they're both a male you know male and female why wouldn't I not follow that action, regardless of who's I'm seeing?

Speaker 1:

do it if it has nothing to do with it being gay. If that's your biggest concern, you have a conversation with your child. You can't go around fucking kissing people. Yeah, that's it. That's a conversation that you have to have with your child about bodily autonomy and boundaries, regardless of your sexual orientation.

Speaker 2:

I tell you that time when he had kissed a girl, when he was a little boy no so I remember I was supposed to be disciplined him for because it happened while he was like in school or whatever, and I was like you can't be doing that without asking people. He was like I did ask I was like oh, she said yes, that's what he said, I was like, well, he's still not supposed to be doing that man. All right stop that okay, he asked for consent.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you I was sitting there like, oh man, this guy covered all his bases. Yeah, it's not a smart kid right here, man, but no, I just I don't feel like that is a direct one-to-one, like when you just see that and then you just automatically do what they say. That's why I don't understand why he felt and then why? He ate. Why, do you think, was that?

Speaker 4:

yeah I shouldn't have said that a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Why do you think that you, if you hypothetically have a son, why do you think that him seeing gay affection is gonna make him gay? Maybe that's not how that works. You know that's not how that works. You're a gay man. That's crazy if you think that's how that works. And then also, are you afraid of being in a gay relationship, having a son and then your son being gay and then that like validating, like these homophobic people's, like feelings and stuff like that's, that is self-hatred and it is internalized like homophobia and that's probably why people are telling you that. And instead of being defensive about it, I think it's a time for introspection and to take a look at why you fear, what you're fearing and why you sound like a complete buffoon on the internet right now and, like you, you really need to take that time and unpack that, because I think that's very weird.

Speaker 2:

I think that whole, that whole thing was very weird I think I think that should get points for noting the click you know when I do my voice. He did that like three times during that. I think that needs to be noted. Understood that, hey, I got good observation skills. He did it like three times oh my god he did the click three times, all right. So I think this is kind of adjacent a little bit in a way too. Uh, we were supposed to talk about this last week but we didn't.

Speaker 1:

Uh, the teacher that got fired from tiktok oh yeah, so this teacher, did we ever get his name it?

Speaker 2:

don't matter what his name. Nobody has said this nigga's name the entire time.

Speaker 1:

You want to look up his name while I talk about it a little bit.

Speaker 1:

While I tell the people what's been going on. So this teacher posted a video on TikTok and I feel like I can speak for most people Well, not most people, a lot of people. When I initially saw the video he was like, oh, I'm running late for my hair appointment, didn't have time to take my hair out, so, like my students are taking my hair out, I was like, don't love it, but I'm not going to like sexualize, like these children and this like whole interaction, so I'm just let it roll. There was another video where they were painting his nails. I said, hold the phone, what is happening here? And then there was like a couple other things too. There was a video of, apparently, where he like, fully like, shot his shot at one of the little girls.

Speaker 2:

That's not what he was going on. He wasn't shooting his shot. He was shooting his shot at one of the little girls. Okay, that's not what he was going on. He wasn't shooting his shot. He was shooting his shot.

Speaker 2:

This was a completely unrelated clip that was like I like goth guys. The girl was all masked up so you don't even know what the girl looked like or who she was. She looked like she was in a school bathroom, but you don't know what anything looked like. And she said she liked like golf guys. And then he does a little golf thing on his head and acts like he's.

Speaker 1:

You know you know the little golf. I can be what you like you can imply it that way. Yes, shooting his shot I don't think that was listen after that listen after that, um, that second video, I was like okay, this nigga's weird. And then the apology video.

Speaker 2:

That was sick. It wasn't even an apology, it was like a recap video.

Speaker 1:

He was just like the tears was insane there were no tears, but the cry face, the break.

Speaker 2:

that was insane.

Speaker 1:

It was just like dry heaving.

Speaker 2:

The breakdown. The acting was impeccable.

Speaker 1:

It was. No, it wasn't. It was really bad acting.

Speaker 2:

The script was on point. They called me bestie. It was on point. Like he really was out here, like he was the girl from a movie. Was Sandra Blonde?

Speaker 1:

Oh, he was like Not Freedom Riders. My students were texting me. Why are your students texting you? Why do your students have your personal phone number?

Speaker 2:

that's not I. That's not that weird, though teachers have that, just so you can have that communication. That that is not a not a weird thing nah, message me on teams.

Speaker 1:

Okay, if you have that, then do that. Everyone has that now they do we went through the when I was a pandemic when I was in school, they didn't.

Speaker 2:

They didn't have that, so you could have a if it was your coach or whatever happened.

Speaker 1:

Again, I'm not, the best example there's literally like you could make. There are several apps where you can make group chats. I'm just saying my school wasn't the best example of this.

Speaker 2:

So there was something that happened in my school, like this Also.

Speaker 1:

we went to school at a certain time, you know, but like, something happened in my school like this, so we, we also. We went to school at a certain time, you know, but like when, at the point where we got to college, we had group chats with um, our professors, in our whole classes in separate apps, so that's what he could do. Why do your?

Speaker 2:

children. Why do these kids have your did? They say he texts his tech number did he say his text text, but that doesn't mean they didn't text him doing it because he could have been.

Speaker 2:

He could have said dming but it doesn't mean he could have text him doing appropriate group chat. So I mean, we don't know that I don't want. My thing is this, and I understand what you're saying and I understand a lot of people's fears and saying it's inappropriate. I just hate when I see anytime men interact with women or children and it's an intimate way. It always can get perceived as it has attention or not attention, but it has the potential to be harmful or pedophilic, like it always goes to that where it's like maybe the nigga just has a relationship and it just that's just how it kind of flows at this time and I don't think that it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to go to being what we just said. Those words, where it goes to being a problem, becomes being harmful.

Speaker 1:

I have a question for you do you not think, as a teacher, that you have to, like set very rigid boundaries between you and your students so that things like this don't happen?

Speaker 2:

I mean, if you care about just the job itself and not necessarily the students that are affected by the job, then yeah. But if you actually care, that's do you?

Speaker 1:

not think that you can be an amazing teacher without overstepping boundaries, like your students having your personal number and your students painting your nails and doing your hair?

Speaker 2:

I think that you can be a teacher who teaches the curriculum and a person gets information and can pass your test doing what you're saying. But I think if you're saying the thing where it's like a lifelong person who's had an effect on your life, who cares about the outcomes of your life, I think that it changes that those things look different when you have somebody who actually cares about what you're doing and your outcomes.

Speaker 1:

I have another question for you. Do you think that this is different from the teachers who see like there's a kid, there's a little girl who's been coming into school over and over again without her hair done and they do her hair for her and nobody ever gets mad about that?

Speaker 2:

People do.

Speaker 1:

There are teachers who people get mad about that.

Speaker 2:

They'll say that you shouldn't be touching the kid's hair. You don't know what the parent's religion or what their status are or what they want to be doing with the kid's hair.

Speaker 1:

But the teachers are generally like, it's not like a widespread thing and the teacher isn't immediately fired.

Speaker 2:

Because my thing is, I've seen women teachers do this with their kids. Like I've seen women teachers hug the kid, the kids, all in their bosom. Like I've seen where things can be blurred in that situation, where it's like, is that really appropriate? We talk about the teachers wearing certain type type of clothing. That was a big conversation for female teachers. So what are we portraying and trying to say to these people and these kids? Because it's like, my thing is this it ain't like these teachers are getting paid a super lot of money.

Speaker 6:

Like they're not out here changing their lives with this money.

Speaker 2:

So, with the type of money they do get paid, along with the stress and the headache that comes with it. You're only inviting two kinds of people into this environment somebody who really cares about these kids and really wants to do something about these kids, or somebody wants to exploit them.

Speaker 2:

Exploit them yeah so you're only doing one of two options, like yeah it's a very like it's it's you have less and less teachers who are there just to do a check and here you're going to just give you the information and keep it going. Like for me, one of the worst teachers in my life that I ever experienced in high school. He didn't have no weird relationship with the kids, he didn't do nothing, he didn't teach a shit. We came in and talked the whole class. It was a science class too, where we didn't learn nothing the whole semester.

Speaker 2:

The only reason I learned anything was because I took the initiative upon myself to read things and educate myself. But if I didn't do that, I would have missed out a whole year of learning anything. And this nigga way and that, to me, was the worst teacher in the world. If there was a teacher saying some kids took their hair out, like I just feel like there's so much more that you could be doing destructive destructive to a child then it's that. And then, like I said, the kids have parents. What he said in his little thing about the the parents signing to be, you know, for the kids to be on the media, and stuff like that Cool like.

Speaker 2:

I just hate when I think that we do this so often with men and their affection about that.

Speaker 2:

We associate so much men to being like violent predators. Every time and like, even when you hear people argument, it's like you don't want that blurred line. Because what? Because there's an issue that can happen. But that issue happens because someone has the intent on doing something bad.

Speaker 2:

If a kid gets too much, you know they feel like, oh, this relationship becomes more than what it is. You can call so many people as a teacher to help you out. So if you do something wrong with the kid, that's because you're a bad person. It's not nothing to do with the system at large, and but when we have this perceived notion of a man is going to do something wrong, he may be scared to say something, because if I say anything, y'all gonna believe this kid over me. And I just feel like we at some point where we're turning the hose on teachers that really have good intentions and we're saying like, oh well, your actions in this hypothetical situation that I'm projecting onto you is more important than the actual results and what you're really doing with these kids and what you're teaching. That's what I'm saying to me, because to me that's why I am the way with other people's kids like I'm very hands off. I really don't want to talk to them. I don't really want to have nothing, nothing to do, like I talk to adults. I'm not really trying to have and discuss anything with other children that aren't, that aren't mine. Like, because anything can happen.

Speaker 2:

Like I just remember one time I was with somebody who I, who I was talking to at the time and they had a young kid that wasn't theirs, it was their sister's, their nephew, and he was bad as fuck. Like nigga was a bad kid, talking shit, talking trash. Young kid too, bad as hell. And this nigga one time tried to lunge at me and like, instead of doing anything or touching the kid or trying to grab him, stop him. I just moved out the way and the nigga just fell down onto the ground because I moved out. They tried to get mad at me, like I hit the kid or something. They all looked at what happened. I literally just moved out the way. He tripped and fell onto the ground, hurt himself and they looking at me like, oh, why did you do that? Do what?

Speaker 2:

move out the way I'm supposed to let this fucking monster, demon child lunge at me so that's why I completely understand, like guys and people who just don't get into the school system, which I think that's horrible, for we do need to have all sorts of different uh types of masculinity examples in schools yeah, um black teachers are male.

Speaker 1:

Teachers are um important black male teachers are important.

Speaker 2:

But I mean having a variety of people being educators to you is an important thing, being having a diverse type of understanding, because it's important to be able to like if you have a teacher who has an accent. That's important because you're gonna have to deal with people in the world who have accents, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

But I just think that we, we don't we with this unconscious bias we have, especially towards towards black men, we just put violence on them when there's nothing wrong has been done. Like the teacher I know who did something like this, I feel like.

Speaker 1:

Was a white man Like. It sounds really good, but we are taught to be cautious because you don't know who could be the dangerous man, but my thing is this, because so many men are dangerous, Like you don't know who could be. You do this to me all the time. You tell me to live in the 10% 5% chance that something bad might happen, because it might happen yeah and I.

Speaker 1:

And because that you're right, there is a lot of fear and bias that come to, so as as a woman, when you're seeing that, and then as a parent, when you're seeing that, when, when teachers have ample opportunity to take advantage of students and they have ample opportunity to groom them. There are so many stories like literally on tiktok, so many stories from like all a bunch of small towns where, like teachers are married to, to the, the kids they groomed, to this day and have happy families that's that happened to me at my school to this day.

Speaker 1:

Like. But so my thing? I feel like it's better to walk in the cautious path than anything else, and it is unfortunate that we have one less diverse teacher in the field to do this, but like we have to, these are children but my thing is we have to be cautious more than anything. We can't be on the side of the teachers, because these are kids who are not cognitively developed yet they need to be protected with fervor, like with, with passion and gusto, oh, and I'm not disagreeing with that at all.

Speaker 2:

But what I'm saying is you're in, you made you put up a lot of good points, at any point that you're wrong, because, again, I do tell you a lot of that stuff to be the protectant of yourself. But at the same time, when we're talking with teachers, we're talking about you know people who are, who care. I just feel like karen is going to look a little different for each situation, each person. And you know me, I'm never. I'm against filming kids, I'm always mr't film the kids. Don't put that shit out, don't do any of that.

Speaker 1:

That's something I saw.

Speaker 2:

I feel like, regardless, he should have blurred the kids' faces, but, in the same token, the niggas who are touching the kids are not putting that shit on the internet so that people can see them with the kids. That's the main argument that I was going to. That's what I really wanted to say. That's the main argument that I was going. That's what I really wanted to say was that the niggas who are doing that are not promoting it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're probably like very right about that.

Speaker 2:

They're keeping it on the low for a reason.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm just saying they're probably not posting with the kids that they're grooming specifically.

Speaker 2:

They would try to keep it on the low.

Speaker 1:

I would hope I'm just saying but people do dumb shit all the time.

Speaker 2:

I'll say the person, the situation that happened when I was in school. This person was over them in an athletic field. They, pretty much from ninth grade to senior year, were their leader and it all came out probably like senior year what was going on. And, like I said, to this day they're still together, but it's weird.

Speaker 1:

It's very odd, it's weird as fuck.

Speaker 2:

All right, so the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. He just recently graduated and he had a speech that went pretty viral. I want to get your thoughts on that. I need you to be professional now. Okay, don't kick his back in just abruptly.

Speaker 6:

For the ladies present today today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.

Speaker 6:

You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives. I want to speak directly to you briefly, because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here now about to cross the stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.

Speaker 6:

I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabel would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother. I'm on the stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I'm beyond blessed with the many talents god has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school, with the virtue of faith, become my wife and embrace one of the most important titles of all homemaker.

Speaker 2:

So he's been getting his back kicked in.

Speaker 1:

You really found a very pretentious way to like big up your wife Like you could have just been like it's just a very noble thing to do in general, not like y'all have done the best thing, but the actual best thing is when y'all sit y'all asses at home. You didn't have to do that, but that's crazy, that that's what. Y'all sit y'all asses at home.

Speaker 2:

You didn't have to do that, but that's crazy, that that's what y'all think, though that's what he's saying. He's not saying sit y'all asses at home. He's saying the greatest thing, which I've said on this show before, that 80 percent of women will probably do in society will bring a child into this world. He's saying you should be praised for that. You should look at that as being something that is an accomplishment to your life I just think.

Speaker 1:

I don't think he um, I don't think he red pilled that shit, yeah he. Red pilled the fuck, yeah he didn't word it the way that it should have it, didn't? It didn't seem like it came from a place of like respect and admiration, but it to me it did.

Speaker 2:

It just feels like it's about what you respect. I think, and a lot of times we've been conditioned and said that if you don't champion somebody in a way of hey, you accomplish what you want to do with your life, no matter what it is, and you just say that blanket statement.

Speaker 1:

If you don't say that blanket statement, then it's a problem until he started talking about his actual wife and their story and he started getting emotional. That's when, uh, I was like maybe he's not being a full asshole I think he just honestly feels that way.

Speaker 2:

I think to a degree I feel like that has been shunned upon for women and is that not that?

Speaker 1:

so that was a graduation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was graduating from. I guess he's probably doing like over, uh, uh, what is it not undergrad, uh, post graduates type stuff, and he probably just graduated with that during the. You know they do courses in the off season and shit like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sometimes during the season, it's just not also not the right time.

Speaker 2:

I mean, if you got to do a speech at your graduation, you can just talk about almost what you want.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can talk about it whatever you want, but letting the women know that the best thing you're ever going to do is be a wife and mother, literally when they're sitting there about to get their degrees, seems a little bit condescending, like if it was in a different environment. I mean it can't be. If it was in literally any environment other than a graduation or like a corporate boardroom, like those two situations, those two settings. It seems very condescending. Any other situation any. If he was literally like at the espies, I mean I feel, like or like giving a speech anywhere.

Speaker 1:

That would be so. That would be great. I just feel like they kicking his back in because it's a graduation. I just feel like they're kicking his back in because it's a graduation.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like shitting on these ladies degrees. I'm gonna just be honest. I just feel like this level of self, like awareness, like this lack of self-awareness is just necessary, like you get the best shit when a nigga is just so clueless yeah he he said the best thing that you're the I said that?

Speaker 1:

no, no, he said that. He said that in the video.

Speaker 2:

He said that the thing no, he said the thing that they want to do the most is be the best accomplish, yeah, the biggest accomplishment I added that sauce onto it like he was just saying christ, that's not the time where you do that he tried to appeal to, saying, regardless of the promotions, all that stuff, you know the greatest thing that you want to do, and I'm gonna add that stuff. You know the greatest thing that you want to do and again I add that part. But you know, the thing that you value the most is your family, and the family that you're going to cultivate.

Speaker 1:

Not the right time, like not the right time, to tell women that the most amazing title you can hold is homemaker at their graduation.

Speaker 2:

I think if there's a group of women that don't want to hear that, it's going to be women graduating from college.

Speaker 1:

Like why would you think that that was the place to do that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, totally wrong spot. These women have spent a whole bunch of money, probably put themselves in debt, for this so they're going to want to value it a little bit more than yeah.

Speaker 1:

and then he was like you didn't? Even have to do this.

Speaker 5:

You could have just sucked some dick and got pregnant.

Speaker 2:

That was funny. So some funny information about this guy. Like I said, he's a kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs, so he just won a Super Bowl. He also his mom.

Speaker 1:

He said you bitches work too hard. My wife got lucky.

Speaker 2:

His mom actually works at Emory out here in Atlanta and she's like a I want to say she's like a physicist.

Speaker 1:

Like. She's a hardworking woman, a career woman.

Speaker 2:

The people were talking about her and they were basically saying the irony with this was like his mom is an accomplished physicist, you know at Emory University and whatnot. But I was looking at her bio or whatever what information I could find. What they said was she did graduate, you know post-grad, all that shit, and then she works at Emory and like the I forgot the staff it is.

Speaker 2:

I had a whole article for it I could pull up. But she was in the staff. You know she's part of that group, but they said like they didn't have kids until eight years, so after they got married. So my thing was like when I hear accomplished, I don't just think degree, I think you did a breakthrough, you did something like that.

Speaker 1:

You did something important in your field, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see that in anything she said. So she's just a regular physicist.

Speaker 1:

I mean that accomplishment is it's obvious, it's an occurrence because I couldn't do that shit. That's way too much studying.

Speaker 2:

It just seems like she's somebody who was in her field, got married, did her shit in her field early on, got to herself a position that she was comfortable with in that field and then chose to be a mom after that because you had multiple kids. After that he's like a younger sister and shit like I don't see where. That's like against what he's saying. He didn't say that you could go after that. I'm pretty sure once his dad got to the position where he wanted to, wherever he was doing, and she got the position that she was doing making whatever she does she prioritized the family after that, yeah, which is something I do.

Speaker 2:

Like I think that's most women would argue they would hope to do get into a position, have a partner who can, so they can prioritize the family. Y'all hating men with kids, like we just discussed with the teacher comments. So you don't want to leave your husband with the kids? I'm just saying you don't want to work and leave your husband with the kids is all I was just.

Speaker 4:

I was making jokes and implying other stuff, that's all.

Speaker 2:

Just saying that niggas hate men and kids together.

Speaker 1:

Hey, just stay away from them, not the fathers.

Speaker 2:

They shh. I'm just saying Some discussions. We can talk about that when we get into the next thing. Are we done with this? Oh yeah we can get into the next thing, daddies, then. So we didn't discuss this either, but it was on, uh, gary owen. He was on shannon sharp. He talked about how his kids have completely disowned him. They're not having any conversation with him, they're not talking to him, and it's because he uh cheated on their mom yeah and ended their marriage or their relationship.

Speaker 1:

So my question was I seen a lot of people who were saying they understood oh, what did I say? Do you know how old his kids?

Speaker 2:

are. They're all grown Like in college and yeah, they're college and above. So a lot of people were just saying like they understood what he was saying. So I wanted to just pose the question like if you found out that your father or your mother was cheating on their you know significant other, your other parent, would you feel like that's grounds to alienate one of the parents, the cheating parent?

Speaker 1:

no, like I straight up. No, um, I do I get where, like the kids and stuff are coming from, but like how, how has your father fathered? Because his husbanding has nothing to do with his fathering.

Speaker 2:

Well what they would say. I saw the women were saying that your overall who you are as a man bleeds into both of those titles. And if you're not being good in one of those titles, how can you be a good anything else If? You're hurting the one woman that you know they love.

Speaker 1:

How is he going to be anything to his children if they're not speaking to him? Oh, I understand.

Speaker 3:

And if he's gonna be anything to his children if they're not speaking to him, oh, and if he's not around them, you can't have any influence on them also like I get that.

Speaker 1:

But you get a more positive, like experience from having a father who wants to be in your life, in your life and, if he makes mistakes, hopefully you have a father who will tell you what he learned from said mistakes so that you don't continue on making those mistakes like I don't know he's like. We're all human beings, like people are allowed to to make mistakes. My father definitely made mistakes. I didn't realize that he was making mistakes until I was older and you go through this is a regular thing. You go through a time, regardless of what your parents are doing and who the parent is that's doing it, where you resent them for what they're doing. But then eventually you get over it. You realize that your parents are fucking human beings and they make mistakes and they are put in the same nuanced situations that you're put into. They get put into difficult spots and then you need to humanize your parents.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a very it's an adult experience. You know, after resenting your parents, to realize that, like they, they were human, they did their best. He probably, like he probably regrets cheating on her. He he's laying in the bed that he made and it's shitty now, but when they come back around to actually speaking to him again and stuff like, hopefully, fingers crossed. He's not an asshole about it, he's apologetic. He um regrets what he does and he tells them like what he learned from his fucking mistakes hey, gary owens, situation makes me understand why I don't judge brian mcknight brian mcknight is a completely different situation I don don't judge Brian McKnight for the same reason of what can happen in Gary Owen's situation.

Speaker 1:

I think Brian McKnight and 50 Cent are like the same, the same like coin, like the same situation.

Speaker 2:

I don't judge those men.

Speaker 1:

Because, like you, know that your kids are spewing that nonsense because they were left with their bitter ass mom that, like you, did her dirty so she thinks that you're the devil, so she's been injecting that propaganda into their veins the whole time. She's been raising them and you haven't had access to them. And instead of fighting the kids, I think it would be a more responsible route for you as a father to just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2:

No, they was kicking that nigga back in first. That nigga, yeah, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1:

It's regardless of the fact that they were doing it first, so that's why I don't judge him.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no no no, no, you're not listening to what I'm saying I said I don't judge him because of what situation? No, because of situations that can happen. I can understand where you can.

Speaker 2:

People going at those kids crazy. And I can understand why you can be on the outs with your kids in that way, because there is some shit like just like with Gary Owen, where he bought tickets to the Super Bowl, he doing all this shit to try to be in their lives and they saying no because they choosing a mama. And don't come back to me now once you need some money or you need some help After you chose your mama multiple times. After I'm trying to be in a relationship with you, I'm trying to apologize for what I did to you and fix our relationship, you keep choosing a mama. Hell, you don't want nothing from me.

Speaker 1:

Do we know how long it's been? First of all, I'm surprised that the kids this happened during the pandemic for Gary.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm surprised that the kids fully aren't speaking to their father because of this at the age that they're at, because I would think that they would.

Speaker 2:

He said he went to one of the girls' house, knocked on her door and she didn't refuse to come to the door and speak to him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's kind of a crazy reaction to have, but at the same time like it should take time, like they'll probably be fine eventually nigga, like my daddy, deserves some extra pussy.

Speaker 2:

So I wouldn't you know why are you looking at me like that? I just said he deserves some extra. I didn't say nothing, he should.

Speaker 8:

I'm sorry, ma I didn't say he should do anything else I just said he deserved a little extra you know I'm saying my nigga work hard, my nigga my nigga work hard.

Speaker 4:

Sorry, ma.

Speaker 2:

Have you seen what's going on now with the skims? You seen the skim? Ad. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, I saw that I don't like this, not because I don't think they look good or that it doesn't look good on them. I don't like this because, when Gilbert Arenas and other people beforehand Said hey, maybe y'all should be more feminine and get sexy. Y'all probably get more eyes on y'all. And now what? A decade later, after he said this, now y'all want to do it and y'all see, is getting your numbers.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that he got he got killed for saying that and I agree with what he was saying in a way where it's like you don't have to be butt naked on the court, but embrace the fact that you're a woman and what people want to see in regards to women, like, just embrace that sexiness, that look how they come. You seen the girl. The girl we kicked the back in kelsey plum. She had her tits all out, she had a little vest over her boobs and came to the game like she did.

Speaker 1:

Like, embrace that shit I mean, yeah it'll, it'll make it a little bit more interesting. I saw a wmba ad on youtube for the first time ever in my life today that's so crazy you know like go watch this game. I was like no, thank you, but that's crazy that you told me to. I'm still not gonna watch some fucking games. I'm sorry, but I don't watch the men's games either.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, yeah, you're not a sports fan, but did you see the skims ad? Did you like the?

Speaker 1:

I saw the skims ad um. Liking how it looks is subjective. You're not a skims girl, I am not a skims girl. Also, it was a white woman with a nude two-piece set on.

Speaker 4:

There was a whole bunch of black girls.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, you didn't see all of them.

Speaker 1:

No, I didn't see all of them. All I saw was that one picture of the basketball player they had.

Speaker 2:

Kelsey Plum. They had one of the rookies that's from Stanford. I forgot her name, but everybody was ogling off of her.

Speaker 6:

And then, I think they had two other girls that was uh, that was doing that too. Let me do a little black girl.

Speaker 2:

So no, the skim thing. It was funny when people kept saying that, when it was like, did y'all not realize that kim got the contract for the nba, so that automatically comes with the wmba? I just didn't think they was gonna do this. Also, too, I saw people saying like the wba surprise, they starting to get, you know, uh eyes on them when they see that, hey, let's take the stud persona off the league yeah, like, put the.

Speaker 1:

Put the spotlight on the, the, the feminine girls, please like we, not we tired um what's what's our face that got locked up in russia, or whatever. Britney griner, we tired of what's her face that got locked up In Russia, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Brittany Griner.

Speaker 1:

We tired of Brittany Griner and them.

Speaker 2:

That's hate.

Speaker 1:

I wanna see the girlies Like I wanna see Flowing hair Dunk. They not allowed to dunk, are they they?

Speaker 2:

can dunk, but it's just physically More difficult.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Cause they can't get up as high. But there are girls who throwing it down.

Speaker 1:

I also, like I need y'all to. I need the WNBA to focus on hiring really pretty girls and just massively big bitches Like that is the two things. Everyone needs to know how to play basketball yes, baseline, baseline but like really pretty girls that are marketable and they're real big bitches that can dunk on shit and then and then we need we need a locker room, like mics on the like.

Speaker 2:

We need personality I saw a tweet that made me think of you, so I guess there was two players who had dated in the past on the WNBA and she fouled the other girl and she like picked her up from behind. Like she was kind of like straddling her a little bit while she picked her up. Sexy that shit was wild.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, I want to see that right now.

Speaker 2:

I'll show you the video later oh my God, I saw this video.

Speaker 1:

Uh, that was the girl's reaction too. She said this is hot. Yeah, that's hot. If I know that they, you, oh I like that.

Speaker 2:

I like that a lot, so you couldn't have that in nba.

Speaker 4:

That would be wild that gay niggas, I wouldn't be turned on. I'm not guarding that nigga at all.

Speaker 2:

Y'all two just guard each other, dog, real talk. You know, it's a point guard in the center. Y'all two niggas, y'all niggas guard each other. We all right over over here.

Speaker 1:

I saw a video of I don't even remember what team it was, but there's this one girl she's a little bit more masculine leaning and then another girl she's like girly. Every time they get off the bus the masculine girl gets off first, puts her arm out, and then the girl comes out all dainty and shit, and there was a whole compilation of her doing that, just coming out all like comes out all dainty and shit and there was a whole compilation of her doing that just coming out all like I think that's overseas, though, was it?

Speaker 1:

Regardless of where it was, the shit was sexy. I was like ooh, Mr Ma'am.

Speaker 2:

Mr Ma'am is sick, All right, so no, we got to stay a little bit with the sports man. We got two titans going at it right now. Did you hear the beef between Shannon?

Speaker 1:

Sharp and Shaq. No, shannon's saying something, man. They the same type of. I feel like Shannon, sharp and Shaq are like the same type of like jolly happy nigga who got his brain knocked around a little bit too much so he don't know words the way he should.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy. I wouldn't say shack got his brains knocked around. I just think, like shack never knew words, shack got honorary degrees shack can't even read the degree that he honorary that's hey. That's hey. He said he went to class. Let me stop. That's a black man. That's a black man.

Speaker 1:

That's a black man yeah, he literally has been. It sounds like he's been on lean for 77 years.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy that you just do lean on Shaq like that. But let me just give you a little tidbit of what happened. So Shannon responded to something Shaq had said, so MVP was announced. There's a little bit of tension because Shaq only got one MVP. The guy who just won MVP is also a center and he just won his third MVP, shaq. Shaq only got one MVP.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like in his career.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, whole time I thought you were talking about now I'm like that nigga playin' basketball.

Speaker 5:

He got one MVP in his whole career the dude that just won his third.

Speaker 2:

He said during his interview with him after he was announced to be in the winter that a bro like I didn't vote for you. I thought other buddy should have won, but you know salute. So shannon goes on nightcap or whatever and says that shack is jealous and he always talks shit about the players and things of that nature. Shack then comes out crazy instagram post shitting on shannon Sharp saying you nothing like me, what you did in your career ain't nothing to what I did in my career. And then he come out with a diss track shitting on Shannon.

Speaker 1:

Shaq, that's corny as fuck. You were literally just like following this diss track wave. You know that we don't like your music, Shaq. So, why would you impose that on us? We didn't want that so automatically, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

But Shannon did do some jokes about the rap.

Speaker 1:

I was on Shaq's side the whole time until you told me that there's a diss track. Now I'm on Shannon's side. God forbid, I'm on Shannon's side.

Speaker 2:

It's the first time for everything.

Speaker 1:

It's the second time I'm on Shannon's side. It's the first time for everything.

Speaker 2:

It's the second time. I think Shannon did mention some of Shaq's music before, though, so I can see why you went to the diss track. This is the way I look at it. I know you don't know about a lot of this other stuff, but TNT is who does Inside the NBA. They're losing the NBA contract. It's pretty much all said and done. Nbc is getting it prime time, amazon Prime, like. Basically, they're no longer going to have the NBA next year. So what?

Speaker 2:

My theory is this Shaq has realized his media persona has gotten too comfortable and relied too heavily on TNT, and he sees that there's time to be a pivot now, because Shaq cool in business and all that other stuff, but at the end of the day, he the diesel. He needs to have eyes on me, people need to see me, people need to recognize me. Podcast and stuff is good, does good numbers, but it's not one of the best, see, not one of the best. So I can just see right now where he's a. It's time for a transitional period. Let me shoot at Shannon, who is the top in the field right now. Let me get this attention going.

Speaker 2:

Also got the stuff going on with my ex-wife, so let me get some of that attention off of that Her saying she don't love me. I don't know if you want to get into that.

Speaker 1:

She said that she don't think she's ever loved him.

Speaker 2:

Which is wild? But, I heard a lot of women saying that why would you give him kids if you didn't love him? Did you not know how much money he made?

Speaker 1:

What Like I'm giving that nigga 7-11 kids. That's alimony and child support Now she got the whole basketball wives thing Like this bitch. She made the right decision.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was a smart move. That's called valuing your womb. Maybe you some women should try it. Okay, she cashed out. People said the only reason she started that is because they last kid just turned 18.

Speaker 1:

Y'all be letting niggas who work at Amazon nutting you. Shut the fuck up, please. That's not bad, it's bad.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not. If you're going to love and marry this person, that's not wrong, but y'all let the nigga nut in you at Amazon that don't care about you.

Speaker 1:

The nigga be telling you to get rid of the baby, you gonna keep the baby. I'ma be a single mom and struggle Bitch. Go ahead, weigh that crown, I guess, dumb bitch.

Speaker 9:

Shit. I'm glad it's the second hour, oh my.

Speaker 2:

God Like what? Oh shit, you forget what I'm doing next month.

Speaker 5:

Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

My bad, but technically she hey salute.

Speaker 5:

Had a father.

Speaker 2:

So again, what do you think about Shaq? What do you think about Shaq and Shannon? Do you think that my theory is correct? Or do you think he's just petty upset because his girls they don't love him no more? Like what's up. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

No, I think your theory is 100% correct.

Speaker 2:

You think he's trying to go for that spot. He's trying to get that number one spot, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think he would give Shannon a run for his money.

Speaker 2:

And now I agree with that, actually, because you know what he just did a interview where they did a one for one with JJ Redick, and it was so corny, right? So JJ Redick comes to Shaq's place, they do his podcast, shaq's podcast, then they do JJ's podcast in the same place. Jj just moves to the other chair, to the left, and they do his podcast there, and then they talk it was hilarious.

Speaker 1:

Shaq Shaq has access to all the like basketball greats and, I think, basketball niggas and comedy.

Speaker 2:

Remember he used to have that Shaq comedy jam.

Speaker 1:

That too, and hip hop and basketball niggas have better personalities than football niggas. I'm sorry they don't got CTE to deal with. They still got they brains and they cognitive functions.

Speaker 2:

I don't know man.

Speaker 1:

Like I just I feel like when I've seen like the older, like basketball players, like they're funnier, Like they seem like they have like it's.

Speaker 2:

I will say this because I don't want, I can't say too much because of you, but ab's interview with jason woodlock was pretty interesting and funny and he seems like he has most of his cognitive functions. Can't really shit on you, ab, because you have a clip no ab does not have any of his cognitive functions.

Speaker 1:

This nigga has held somebody up at gunpoint, has he not? Not, I mean, he just from the interview. With his last that nigga does not have any of his cognitive functions. His brain stem is wobblier than Wobblier is sick yo. Wobblier than wacky and flailable flailing tube man. Oh my God, that's his brain stem, okay, like it's hanging on by a thread. His brain stem okay, like it's it's hanging on by a thread.

Speaker 4:

a, b is like with hopefully he leaves his brain to science.

Speaker 1:

So we can see the, the, the effects of cte, because he got it, he got it he got that shit.

Speaker 2:

You can't say that with what you said about him. No, you gave him, gave him a lot of props. I'm just saying you did.

Speaker 1:

Can I say what I'm about to say without you being? Mad. Content. You can have CZE in a big dick. It don't like. You are the worst these things don't have to do with each other at all. That's sick. Yo Like it's not like it's steroids Also. Nah, let's continue.

Speaker 2:

Would you wake it up?

Speaker 1:

No, I was, it's fine.

Speaker 2:

He's got to put steroids on him.

Speaker 1:

No, I was just going to say that's probably the difference between a basketball and a football, I guess.

Speaker 2:

Relax, I'm a basketball guy, so you can't say that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was going to say the football niggas got small dicks because they take steroids and the basketball niggas don't, because I feel like basketball niggas don't have to take steroids.

Speaker 2:

All you got to do is run, unless you're allegedly LeBron. They said that, remember I told you. They said Savannah was working with this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that was the whole thing, bro, not taking no goddamn steroids.

Speaker 2:

Nigga is 40 years old, jumping out of the gym. Come on now. Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 1:

That is cocaine. You can't put that. That's better to put on a nigga.

Speaker 2:

That's better to put on his cane.

Speaker 1:

That's sick. Yeah, because that's not giving him physical strength, that's just giving him more energy to pump the physical strength he already has, according to the people. As an African, descent.

Speaker 2:

According to the people who say that he's doing stuff man of African descent the drugs that they're saying that he's doing what they do is they don't give him extra strength. What it does is just help the blood and oxygen flow more. That's literally what, for him, it is Okay that shouldn't be illegal. I mean it is, but if he hasn't got, carcinoma.

Speaker 1:

That sounds like an anime power-up.

Speaker 2:

Sounds like a yum-yum fruit. You are wild, so I do want to put this article to everybody. It's going to get a little serious, guys, so trigger warning.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, Guys, trigger warning. What is it Essay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Essay trigger warning. Okay, you got to relax.

Speaker 2:

You can't do it like that. You're giddy about it.

Speaker 1:

No, I was just yelling it. I wasn't giddy. What did I say?

Speaker 2:

All right, so we got what we needed from Dan Snyder. So remember, when we talked about it, we said that the problem we had with the documentary was that you really didn't show what you needed to show to say this guy was a bad guy.

Speaker 1:

Surface level fucking nonsense.

Speaker 2:

So we have Lori Beth uh Denver. So you remember the, the heavyset girl who was on um all that she was on a Steve Harvey show Um she said that Dan Snyder. She alleged that Dan Snyder showed her porn, initiated phone sex, found on her breasts and more over several years. So that's what we needed right there A allegation from a prominent member of the cast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was a prominent member.

Speaker 2:

Of course.

Speaker 1:

She hasn't said anything about this ever until just now, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I can understand trauma man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, anything about this ever till just now. Right, yeah, I can understand trauma, man, uh, yeah, no, I'm not saying as if, like that um takes away from what she's saying.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying um so let me get crazy that she hasn't said anything. Let me get into snyder. He slams accusations as wildly exaggerated and, in most cases, false.

Speaker 1:

That's sick exaggerated and in most cases that that's sick, Exaggerated, and in most cases that that's like very specific verbiage. That's good.

Speaker 2:

But our firm that was. That was a quote that they, that they took out so they could have. He could have said something in between.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying that's a good PR firm. Salute.

Speaker 2:

You're right and, as I previously stated, there were times, particularly in the early years, made mistakes and exhibit poor behavior as a leader. If I did that, if hold on, if I did that on some oj shit with respect to laurie beth, I sincerely apologize to her, but I cannot apologize for things I did not do that's what he said.

Speaker 1:

Um at the end of the yeah, that's literally with um taco and the stick guy Like that's crazy.

Speaker 4:

So I mean, like I said, that's what we needed.

Speaker 2:

Now we can kind of paint him in the light that we needed to paint him in.

Speaker 1:

Do you think he was only sexually assaulting the fat girl?

Speaker 2:

I heard a lot of people just saying that. That's the easiest person to isolate, because you're already way different From the other kids that are around you. Not only are you a big girl, I mean a big person, you're a big girl, so that automatically has different ramifications.

Speaker 1:

He was targeting her specifically.

Speaker 2:

I can see where he is.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if there's going to be more.

Speaker 2:

Remember in the documentary where he said we already have a fat one to the other girl.

Speaker 1:

So I can see that documentary where he said we already have a fat one to the other girl. So I can see that, yeah, I wonder if there's gonna be any any more um, people that come out as a result of her coming out, because that's usually what happens one person finally comes out and then it gives his other victims alleged, maybe potential victims the courage to come out and say something themselves.

Speaker 2:

So I mean they fuck them kids up because you see how Kel talking on Shannon podcast.

Speaker 1:

I didn't see that at all so, no, I showed you the clip, remember, I showed you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you showed me the clip of his wife got pregnant twice by another man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what the fuck? What did you do to these kids, dan Snyder? You took this nigga whole self-respect away and then now I'm Wake it up.

Speaker 1:

I don't Let me, I don't want to say Talk about it. I don't want to put nothing on Kenyan Jacket, but it's either you're traumatized or you end up doing some traumatizing yourself. Hold on what. That's usually what happened. Like if you're, if you go through but this nigga didn't do nothing. He just got his wife cheated on him twice he was traumatized, but he ain't done nothing since then. No, or I'm talking about okay no I'm a kill, kill is the

Speaker 2:

one who's on on shannon? Okay, no, keenan.

Speaker 1:

Keenan is keenan ain't saying nothing happened to him no I'm. I'm just saying he's wildly successful in snl and all that.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was saying oh, you think this is all a legend. I don't want to put nothing on his jacket either he bending up your pretzel that's crazy or you hate black men, or he's he's doing some freaky shit, or he could just be a stand-up guy and just write good jokes.

Speaker 1:

ain't no stand-up guys in Hollywood or music? That's what we've been learning. If you want to be successful and you want your name in lights, you either got to do the bending or you got to bend over yourself. Those are the two options. You got to be a fucking monster or you have to be abused and traumatized. Those are the ways that you get into the music business successfully or Hollywood successfully. Those are the only two things. There are no honest people who are just talented.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think there are a few that are. They may not be seven.

Speaker 1:

OK, Max, that's fair. That's seven of them, hey, and I'm talking about like the people who like are like. My thing is this wildly famous, not just like the indie.

Speaker 2:

I don't condone artists violence in any kind of capacity. But I feel like after the second time she got pregnant by another man, it might be okay to go.

Speaker 1:

Chrisman wall who is that? I thought you were about to say chris brown you don't know, chrisman wallace no he's a wwe wrestler who murdered his whole family and himself, jesus christ don't do that.

Speaker 2:

After the second cheat you took her back and then she got pregnant by another nigga. That means the nigga didn't have no condom and he nutted in her. It's okay to go Crispin Wall the second time.

Speaker 1:

We don't know that a nigga didn't have no condom. He nutted in her. That don't matter. Fucking niggas with super sperm.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's even more egregious. Go Crispin Wall, aaron Hernandez, whatever you need to do OJ Simpson, that's grounds for that.

Speaker 1:

That is not grounds for that. Please stop listening to my husband. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2:

That's going to be a crazy clip. That's going to be a crazy clip. Yeah, did you want to get into this Childish Gamb uh album you were so wanting to talk about?

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, I didn't. I don't think I lived. I don't think I've lived with it for long enough to have like a fully fleshed out opinion. But, um, childish gambino, dropped out of vista a couple days ago. I've been listening to it for the past two days. Um, it's, it falls within like the childish gambino box.

Speaker 1:

I know I've like our most viral clip is me hating on him, but I'm I passionately critique people who I enjoy a lot. I've been following his career since well, I've been following his music career since because the internet and I've been following his acting career since community. So I've enjoyed this man for a very fucking long time. So when he, um, when he drops something, I'm still gonna run and listen to it. I'm sorry. The first couple tracks are very good. Um, he has this like very jarring, like technological, fucking, like staticky sound thing in between the first couple songs. Um, it starts with like a very sunny if you're a childish gambino fan, if you listen to like because the internet like kawaii, that it it gives that like sunny, childish gambino vibe. I absolutely love the first like four or five tracks. They were very good and that I think the album is only like eight tracks. So I don't know. I feel like I can generally say it's 11 tracks, so to be.

Speaker 6:

I didn't like to be hunted.

Speaker 1:

So the first four tracks I absolutely love. So, out of this, the vista algorithm, the like voice synthetic thing that he did on algorithm, I thought was cool as fuck. I was like, oh, grunge, love it. Um, and then time with Ariana Grande. I was like this is a little boppy bop. You got one, you got one. With this one, the white girls are gonna love this. Good job, childish gambino. Um, yeah, so I I need to live with it a little bit more, but generally I always like.

Speaker 2:

I always like what he does, uh, musically, so I enjoy it I was hoping that he was gonna put our clip in one of his songs childish gambino hates black women yeah, no, this um, his albums are never like self, like reflective, like that

Speaker 1:

no, they are in, just like I think he has, like a. That's why I wanted to live with it a little bit more and think about it a little bit more. Um, I don't know what the what he, what the theme of this is trying to say, and I want to. I think he has a theme of technology and the internet and stuff like that for his albums, so I didn't think I wasn't surprised when he didn't put that Plus. It went viral, but it wasn't millions viral.

Speaker 2:

She got mad at me because my first uh take when I was listening to it with her was I felt like he was jacking the weekend a little bit, but according to you he's been doing this sound forever he has been like the, if he's been doing like the sunny beats, shout out to shem.

Speaker 1:

This is that's like one of his terms, sunny. Beats yeah like the happy beats. He calls them Sunny Beats. So he's been doing like the Sunny Beats thing and he's been singing on the Sunny Beats for a long time. He's been doing that for a while On Kawhi. He did that On Camp. He did that On whatchamacallit on Because the Internet. He did that On Camp. He did that On whatchamacallit Because the internet. He definitely did that.

Speaker 2:

So he's been doing that To me it sounded like he was just doing a bad impression of the Weeknd no the Weeknd was just doing his own A better impression.

Speaker 1:

No, the Weeknd was just doing his own version of like tech music, because they both do derivatives of like tech music. There's like the base of their music are like techie sounds. Okay. So that's what you were hearing in the similarities. Nothing is new, oh for sure, everything is. Everything is recycled, nothing is new.

Speaker 2:

So, that's what you were hearing in the similarities. Nothing is new. Oh for sure, everything is. Yeah, everybody, everything is recycled.

Speaker 1:

Nothing is new, so that's what you were hearing I mean what I was saying was.

Speaker 2:

He just sounded like that's like you just be.

Speaker 1:

Your ear for music is very different than mine. Let me just put that respectfully, that's hate that's not hate, because the way I was gonna say it was gonna be even more hate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's all you know is hate.

Speaker 1:

It was going to be different. You be saying all I know is hate, but let me tell y'all this man told me he loved me for the first time while I'm keeping that. This man told me he loved me for the first time while I was making fun of a small child.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't a small child. He was like 15 years old. Okay, To me he was a small child, the nigga, looked like Jordan from the Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 5:

The nigga in 2022.

Speaker 4:

It was 2022?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in 2022. Had a fedora on in high school. I was like this nigga, he look like Jordan from Bernie Mac, has not known pussy ever in his life and he accidentally told me he's loved me while I was hating on a child. So when he was like, oh, you know nothing of hate. You know nothing but hate. I'm like that's why I'm married to you, that's how I got this. Because of hate, know nothing but hate. I'm like that's why I'm married to you, that's why we're, that's why that's how I got this. Because I hate, because of you both, of our loves for hate I'm not disagreeing, yeah, I'm just saying it's just that's gonna be capping for the, for the, for the mic your barrels of hate.

Speaker 2:

No, no bounds no, they don't stop hitting the wire oh I'm sorry, no they don't. How long did you watch empire for? When did you get tap out of empire?

Speaker 1:

oh, I tapped out of empire.

Speaker 2:

Probably I'm trying to think of like plot line wise, but probably like third season, I think so the reason why I asked this let me look up how many seasons is, because the reason I stayed past the first season is I I did some headcanon, so if y'all not familiar with that, means it just you create something in the show that just comes out of your imagination. So the way that it was cool to me was that they had a superpower. Every character had a superpower. Their superpower was they were able to make hits there were six seasons of empire.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got out on season five. Wow, yeah, I stayed about four or five. I was like, yeah, four or five. But my, the way I was able to commit myself to it was because the music was the superpower. Everybody in the family except the oldest son could make music. That was their superpower. And Cookie's superpower was she could tell when a hit was a hit. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That was her power and the way that the family all worked together. So that was always how I like, made the shit more supernatural to me and how it was more tolerable. But to see this shit play out in real life with diddy, I see why he wanted to sue them, because wasn't that like an early case where he wanted to sue empire for a copy of his life? I think there was an article about that was.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know that, did he? I don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it was about his life, empire I don't think it was about his life, but I think they heavily inspired about him. And I didn't believe it until that nigga king combs did a fucking diss track to 50 cent and told the fans you went to the wrong house.

Speaker 1:

He did that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you can go listen to the song. He tells them that y'all went to the wrong house, that it was the next door. Like he trying to flex on them.

Speaker 1:

They just gonna go to that house too.

Speaker 2:

Like. I saw this and people will say like, oh, rich kids will do dumb shit and all that. I didn't think it was real. Like this, Like this nigga, really. I think it was Malik on the show. That was his name, right, the youngest son.

Speaker 1:

Let me look it up. Yeah, I think so, jussie.

Speaker 2:

Smollett's youngest brother, Hakeem Hakeem right. Hakeem King Combs is hakeem yeah probably like a hundred percent like he was the favorite. He was the favorite. He was the one doing the music. He did the same raps. That was like his dad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah he looks just like 100 is hakeem yeah and for you to let that shit ride.

Speaker 2:

Who? Who does that like I? Like I understand. We've gotten so far from the plot and reality that this wild shit is just normal behavior. Now, Like, just think about we would never have had this when we was coming up. None of the rich kids would have made a diss track to somebody hating on their dad and tell the feds you went to the wrong house.

Speaker 1:

Not at all.

Speaker 2:

Like what times do we live in now?

Speaker 1:

Also only black kids would do this. Like did he really?

Speaker 2:

did. He has grounds to sue empire. Now go get that back catalog, dog, you're gonna need it, jesus. I just thought that was insane when I I didn't believe people when they said that and I went back and listened. This nigga really said empire the other house.

Speaker 1:

I came to the wrong house. We're great. I think star should have stayed on longer than it did and empire should have been. I went back and listened. This nigga really said Empire and Star were great. I think Star should have stayed on longer than it did and Empire should have been cut shorter.

Speaker 2:

I'm surprised that you like Star.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, Is it because there?

Speaker 2:

was a white girl on it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That white girl. She was eating shit up. I'm sorry there's like I generally gravitate towards black women, but if there is a white girl or a Spanish girl, just undoubtedly eating it up.

Speaker 2:

Didn't they have both?

Speaker 1:

Or was she just biracial?

Speaker 2:

Because they had a white girl, a dark-skinned girl, and then there was a girl and a mixed girl.

Speaker 1:

She didn't matter, she wasn't. She reminded me of Lynn she wasn't eating nothing up.

Speaker 2:

If they were to do girlfriends over, I would want her to play Lynn.

Speaker 1:

Yeah no, she's just not striking enough to play Lynn, honestly.

Speaker 4:

Lynn was probably, but all of them were like that though.

Speaker 1:

My first go around watching Girlfriends, Lynn was my favorite character. She's mine too. When I was a child, Lynn was the person that I connected with the most, when I had no idea what was going on when I was watching Girlfriends.

Speaker 2:

OK, put that at that second part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was the. I was just like. She just seems like she was the closest to being like childlike free.

Speaker 2:

Lynn or Samantha? Who's your, who's your who's, who's the who's the biggest.

Speaker 1:

Samantha.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's because they could do more on that show.

Speaker 1:

Also, I feel like not only who's the biggest slut. Even though Lynn is a black woman, I still prefer Samantha because she had money.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying Lynn had like six master's degrees, didn't do shit with them when she was a bum and she was actually kind of a bad friend and she overstepped her friend's boundaries over and over and over and over and over again and lynn was getting was getting bust down by like the plumber nigga like like literally broke niggas, like homeless bums, yeah like that was never samantha's mo I mean well, you watch the show, so samantha was getting knocked down by bus boys, waiters, whatever. All she cared about was the dick.

Speaker 2:

Them niggas got jobs.

Speaker 1:

I'm not seeing you again.

Speaker 2:

Them niggas had jobs yeah.

Speaker 1:

Samantha's thing was like I don't care what job you have, because I'm never seeing you again.

Speaker 2:

I have no desire to see you after tonight. Lynn was hitting the unemployed niggas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, lynn was hitting the unemployed niggas and then letting them live with her. Yeah, in the garage.

Speaker 2:

That was a real one. Mistakenly, I valued that when I was younger. When you don't really know your expectations and where you're going to end up in life, you see the girl that's like cool with just accepting any kind of old thing and you think like, oh yeah, that should be the one. But it's like no, you just use her to get your come up. Oh now, I should have said that out loud, my bad thank god, I'm married bro thank god, I'm married now do we want to talk about megan's tour?

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, let's talk about meg's tour. Um, everyone's talking about how meg is going on tour with glorilla and that her ticket sales have not been going doing too well hold on.

Speaker 2:

I gotta, I gotta from academics tv make the stallion car selling fans free tickets to fill up empty seats at her show.

Speaker 1:

Tickets were reportedly as low as 20 dollars oh, 20 dollars, but that that that type of report comes out for like almost every artist that has gone on tour lately. That came out for Nicki Minaj. It came out for like so many people.

Speaker 2:

Niggas are broke.

Speaker 1:

Niggas is broke. That's the thing Meg is going on tour.

Speaker 2:

Arena tour at that.

Speaker 1:

An arena tour with Gorilla. That's what surprises me.

Speaker 2:

I did not think With the bullshit single between the two of them, that did not hit.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you something Meg's past couple albums. As somebody who has been a fan of hers since she dropped Tina Snow, I was waiting in anticipation for everything she has. They have not hit. The singles have been like eh, they're good, I like them because I like you. I, I like them because I like you, and that's it. So, um, yeah, I did the. I think the reason that meg has meg stayed relevant because we needed to support her through the fucking nonsense that she went through.

Speaker 2:

Just keep it real. Did we care about meg because tori shot her? Just keep it real.

Speaker 1:

Did we care about Meg because Tori shot her? No, we don't care about Meg because Tori shot her Did we keep caring about Meg because Tori shot her. I think the conversation about Meg would have been different if Tori had not shot her. I think the focus would have been more on the music that she's putting out, the content that she's giving us, and we would have been more focused on the lackluster bars than we would have been on anything else wake it up and if all of that had not happened, then the wider conversation around meg is that, like she within, like the, the bubble of her fans that still want her to fucking rap, which I am in like.

Speaker 1:

We know that Tina Snow was amazing and she has been chasing like a poppy hit for mad long and I don't know if it's the label or her management or whatever the fuck is happening. But, girl, the single you put out, boa, not it, not it at all. It's the number. I knew that it was gonna be. I saw meg the stallion has a number one and I was like it's for the video. And I kept reading and I was like, yeah, it's for the video, it's not for the single, it's for the. The visuals, your visuals are top tier, all of the money behind you, but I need you to start rapping like a Texas bitch again, please, because I am generally like there's, it's only. I'm giving you one more rollout before I'm just like done, damn. And that's my take on Meg right now.

Speaker 2:

I knew that. I thought you is what I'm going to say. I was expecting a lot because I just knew that when they announced this arena tour and that her and Gorilla had a song together, that they was coming with heat. I barely remember they even dropped that shit. Yeah, that shit came and went so fast and I, like his and y'all know I said the thing. I look at Meg as the friend who get all freaky with niggas but you don't ever want to touch. I want to see her win and I don't think that they have put her in the right position. I think the music that she wants to do it seems like she's doing and it's not good.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I think the music that she wants to do. It seems like she's doing and it's not good. Honestly, carl, save her. What the fuck I want? Hot girl, freak, nasty, big old freak, like Tina Snow was so good, like it was so good and.

Speaker 2:

I like his too.

Speaker 1:

I ain't gonna lie, I like that was just a raw ass Texas bitch, and I Also Wanted to talk about this. So, um, I'm okay with artists just giving me one body of work that I admire and love and them never giving me anything after that, ever again, because I also think it's unfair to think that our artist is gonna keep pumping out classics and things that we absolutely love at this point. Now, I think that you're going to give me one body of work maybe even if I get that that I love, and then if I get nothing from you ever again, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to be okay with that. I'm okay with that. No, not childish game. You know, chance the Rapper, I'm completely okay with you only giving me acid rap. You ain't like three. No, I'm okay with you only giving me acid rap.

Speaker 1:

ASAP Rocky, I'm okay with you only giving me long live. Asap Frank Ocean. I'm okay with you only giving me Channel Orange. You like blonde, not the way I like channel orange. Um, there are so many album, there are so many artists that have like one very impacting body of work that, like at a, it hit us at a very specific point in our lives and it was a. It was well timed and everything and all of the stars were aligned and I think it's unfair to continue expecting that from them at this point in my life. I think it is unfair. So I'm gonna stop expecting multiple bodies of work from y'all that impact me the way one has. If you only gave me one solange frank, everyone that I just mentioned, chance the rapper asap. Um, not rihanna.

Speaker 1:

She's giving us about two of those uh dang, that was tough you think I only two for real. Yeah, like fully impacting bodies of work. Yes, two, um, yeah, uh, joey badass with 1994, 1999, like you, it's okay. If you only gave me one, it's okay, it's because it's it's more than enough. I mean, I feel.

Speaker 2:

I think we're coming to a trajectory, when it comes to artists and even just celebrity as a whole, where fame is going to be diluted in a real way, when like fame isn't going to be like the world knows you anymore. We're not going to have any more Drakes anymore. We're not going to have people who are mega stars anymore. Like it's going to be your niche, those people rock with you. And how you's going to be your niche, those people rock with you.

Speaker 1:

and how you're able to do your business within your niche is how you're going to be able to be successful that's why I think artists like smino, who I keep bringing up, but he has had his niche for a very complicated, melodic way that he raps and his cadence is like very different. A lot of people don't like his voice, but the niche that he caters to I will never give up on you, period, point blank. Every single project you drop, I'm gonna listen to Smino is one of those like unicorn um artists where, like I do expect you to give me something impacting that changes my life. Every single time you drop nigga, because you've been doing it the whole time, so now you can't stop. I put you on a different level than I put all the artists I talk about, like Isaiah Rashad with Sylvia Demo Amazing, I don't expect him to do that again.

Speaker 1:

But no, smino, I expect you to keep dropping heat. That I, for my ears, continue thinking is a classic. My children will know who you are. You can't stop everyone else. I as is on a different level. But, like Isaiah Rashad and Smino, like y'all need to keep making music that I will keep rotating. Y'all have no choice but to do so. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

Y'all are not humans. Isaiah Rashad trying to get his Gerard Carmichael on. He ain't worried about none of that other shit you got going on.

Speaker 1:

Isaiah Rashad, regardless of whose genitalia is in your mouth, I expect you to deliver musically. I don't give a fuck what else you're doing, sir Period.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit of a fuck. What else you're doing, sir? Period, oh shit, oh man. Uh, well, do you want to talk about nita baker? And these old women keep canceling their shows? Just past mother's day, nita baker was supposed to perform in atlanta. Uh, I believe she canceled with it with good timing, but the promoter didn't announce it to the crowd to the last minute. My question is why these old women keep doing this? Because it ain't just her.

Speaker 3:

There's a bunch of old women out here canceling shows Lauren Hill.

Speaker 1:

Lauren Hill be showing up late. What's her face? The other lady that was literally cursing people out in the crowd the other day.

Speaker 2:

Was Anita Baker the one going back and forth with baby face?

Speaker 4:

I think she was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because they was having some issues with her concert, the little tour she was on with him. He had came on for a night or something like that. But no to me. I just feel like that kind of bougie behavior got to stop, like we can't keep doing this Because that's messing up everybody. Kind of paper.

Speaker 1:

At this point I feel like when you get tickets to one of these like legacy acts, like you got to think that you got to be prepared for some bullshit.

Speaker 2:

For real. But you don't hear Rolling Stones doing none of this. They be out there ready to perform every night. I don't like that. I don't like it. I just feel like these folks be getting just too head far up their asses and they just don't want to just give folks do their job. Nigga, everybody else got to go to work, your turn too. You good for you that you only got to perform once.

Speaker 1:

Niggas gotta do their shit every day just keep it real man it's really shitty that y'all did that. You did that on mother's day too, but uh that's a gift for people what was, what was her, what was her excuse?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I didn't hear nothing like illness or nothing like that I hear. Didn't hear nothing like it was an illness or anything like that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's odd. Anita Baker, you need to do better for your fans.

Speaker 2:

I just felt like that shit was just happening more and more now, but people don't respect the consumer anymore, I mean that's just what is coming down at the end of the day. Yeah, all right. Besides your sabotage behavior that you've been doing, is there anything else we need to get to? No I just want these people to know.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing we need to get to.

Speaker 2:

Fair was off for five days in a row. Didn't post anything on our socials.

Speaker 1:

I was on vacation. That don't mean you're on vacation from the show.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy Sabotage. You're never going to beat the allegations, baby All. You're never going to beat the allegations, baby. All right. Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family and the only thing you should be exploiting is what these corporations Talk. Fnf TV I'm Rhetoric, I'm with my lovely co-host, Miss Reality.

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