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BET Awards Fashion Critiques and SubPar Performances, and LeBron's Cultural Impact, and Columbus Short's Podcast Crash Out - Talk FNF TV ft Tye
From threading needles in Connecticut to styling stars on the red carpet, our guest Tye's story is as vibrant and textured as the fabrics he works with. We sit down with this fashion powerhouse to trace his journey from working at Macy's to becoming a leading name in the fashion industry. Ty reflects on his influences, from his stylish aunt to the "Polo Man," and shares how his creative flair led him to shaping his illustrious career. Get ready to be inspired by Ty's resilience and passion for fashion as we explore the roots of his success.
Our conversation then shifts gears to the cultural intersections of music and fashion. We compare the styles of artists like Lil Baby, Gunna, and Eminem, while also addressing the delicate topic of cultural appropriation and the importance of maintaining authenticity within the culture. The episode features a lively critique of the BET Awards' fashion hits and misses, providing praise and constructive feedback on some of the most talked-about celebrity looks. You'll hear personal anecdotes that underline the nuances of cultural norms and the significance of respect in creative spaces.
Beyond the glitz and glamour, we delve into broader societal issues, from the impact of influencers on the food scene to the role of Black women in both personal and professional realms. We debate the merits of icons like LeBron James and discuss the pressures surrounding men and marriage. This episode is packed with engaging discussions and valuable insights, making it a must-listen for anyone intrigued by the intricate dance between fashion, culture, and identity. So tune in, and join us for a thought-provoking and enriching journey through the world of style and beyond.
Girl. There is absolutely no way that you cannot be obsessed with this girl If you don't like her you're a hater. You're a hater. Very simply put like if you don't like this girl, you're a hater and you are insecure about yourself because she is perfect in every way possible.
Speaker 4:So it's the girl. I'm not discrediting him. I'm still sitting here saying I don't feel like I owe you respect.
Speaker 5:I like what you do, but I still don't feel like I owe you that yet Telling that nigga Get out of his car, then that's what you saying Get out the way.
Speaker 4:You gotta go in there and really feel it out. Cause, you said Cause, if you ever hear the stories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's feeling the way I'm always what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:We've seen stuff and that's our culture, so we have to understand it. When you date somebody outside of our race, they're never going to understand our culture to fully expect, because they don't live it. It's a different experience, so we understand I'm never going to put you in jail. I might give you these hands, but I'm never going to put you in jail.
Speaker 4:I might give you these hands but I'm never putting you in jail for the fact being. You know what I'm saying, I understand what it what it is to put a black man in jail or or or do stuff to them. They don't understand that because they don't they don't come from that world.
Speaker 7:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives.
Speaker 2:What the f*** do you think your f***ing? This podcast is sponsored by Graffiti Tax Services. For all your tax preparation needs, you can go to GraffitiTaxcom we're going to put the link right here it should be somewhere and yeah, you can head to them for during tax season and if you have any financial or tax preparation questions, head to Graffiti Tax Services. They're our new sponsor. Thank you to Graffiti Tax Preparation Services. That's it. Okay, well, today we have our first guest. Okay, well, welcome to the show. Of course, but today we have our first guest in the house. Yes, so Ty is with us. So Ty is a fashion stylist, creative director, image consultant and personal shopper, so he is joining us. Today we're going to talk all things fashion and all of our regular stuff too. So, ty, tell us just like a little bit about yourself. Just a quick one too.
Speaker 4:One, two, one, two. Well, I mean you done broke me down. That was a great like intro. I know I had a main job. I'm like a true Jamaican that I am. But you know, I'm from Connecticut, got into the industry within the last 10 years. I've done so much. Um, oh my gosh. What do you want to know like? How do we do?
Speaker 5:it. You can put a mic a little close to you how do we do this like?
Speaker 2:what do you want to know? Like, just like, tell me how you got into styling okay, so how can I explain this without?
Speaker 4:okay, so be quick, not brief, but I got into styling. I was um working at macy's. I met this guy who was a street pharmaceutical rep who actually became that's a legitimate position.
Speaker 4:That's a legitimate position, right and he became my boyfriend at the time and his friends him and his friends kind of like, like, like that I had style, that I was creative, so they would just send me to like the stores, to go buy everything for them and just put them on. And he was actually his name. Well, I'm gonna just call him what we used to call him. We used to call him polo man. So he used to come into macy's and drop like 1200 on me so this was like during the white boy, black boy era yeah yeah, you know like the
Speaker 2:spears and that was real heavy cargo shorts cargo shorts.
Speaker 4:Yes, the polo, you know the polo boots?
Speaker 4:okay, yes, so he was the polo man, so he used to come in and he used to just like I want you to, you know, pick some stuff out for me. And I used to, you know, we used to talk, like you know, privately. I honestly just being real, and, um, he put me into the game and like I remember, like him taking me to like Philadelphia and New York, and like I would just dress him and his friends, just like put them in. So that's how I really got introduced into fashion. I've always loved it, though, because my aunt was a seamstress and she, I remember as a kid she would, um make dresses and wedding dresses, and I remember she made my godmother's wedding dress and she allowed me to help with the beading and stuff like that. So I've always loved fashion, but really, what got my foot in the doors to get me the niche to like be a stylist and personal shopper was him.
Speaker 2:You have like such an interesting life and I do want to get deeper into it and I want you to get into like all of your roots and stuff. But let's get into like all of your roots and stuff, but let's get into the music and then we'll start for real.
Speaker 7:So let's go, baby I'm not in a mood for my flight that late, so I jumped on a private jet and I'm asking a pilot at eta I'm surprised you put this on here. Shout out little baby, I love it. Little bro, like pva paid already. I don't need no hit song, we don't need id. Low bro, 17 in the club being scrolling tick tock f's. Just saw him a thick one. Which one? Who do you want, bro, pick one? If I shoot my shot, I'll hit one matter of time till I get the mood ticked off.
Speaker 9:All right, we could go bam for bam that we can go m for m. What I know for the made by truck double r with the factory rims. I got the 90 years, the version of the bribers. I'm really a threat. It's got to the point We'll be right back. Yeah, yeah, put up. I don't hang with rats. That's some new type shit.
Speaker 10:Get a nigga wet don't news type shit. Sippin' drinkin' at the zone screw type shit. Just sad hurt runnin' through crew type shit. I got a bad bitch at home, voodoo type shit. Take down Megan Stay-O's by the group type shit. That's some deep shit. I just thought you knew.
Speaker 4:I just Like. I always. You always see me in a professional setting. I feel like you're Britney Spears, like, listen to, like, like Kate Moss or something. Like you know, that's so cool.
Speaker 5:I had my soundboard. We going crazy right now.
Speaker 2:Are you DJing? I love.
Speaker 5:Tyler, I just be having a seat, maybe what's up. You like Tyler, I like Tyler.
Speaker 4:I'm obsessed with her low-key, low-key. Yeah, I will talk about it. Yeah, I'm going to say the client, but I'm not going to say the name of her.
Speaker 11:Yeah, she missed the mark. Jump, jump, jump. Oh, you know I love to make it jump, jump, jump, dump, dump, dump, dump, I get top, top. I eat up. You know, I love to make it jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. Oh, you know, I love to make it jump, jump, jump, dump, dump, dump, dump, I get top, top. Oh, my god.
Speaker 4:That's the best part. I I thought you was about to play. Wu-tang Clan or something. Gotta give Gunna a bar I like. Gunna. Even after the whole supposed rat situation. I'm a civilian. I'm sorry, ain't nobody should do. No time for nobody.
Speaker 5:When it hit, it hit man, the music it hit. I can't be mad at it. All right, wake it up.
Speaker 4:You got me nothing in there, you got me nothing in there.
Speaker 7:I just landed in my city. Where's the fucking gang Been in the A's so long my whole accent changed. Ain't gotta write it on no chain, cause they know the name. I put a brain on my car. I don't know who that is Little white boy.
Speaker 5:I said bang bang bang.
Speaker 2:I just touched down in my city when the fuck the gang. I came back in Jesus Play a fiddle game. He's the one that did the.
Speaker 7:The song with Bobby let's play. I came this little white boy.
Speaker 2:He's the one that did the.
Speaker 4:With Bobby O said nigga, for him First name, give me. Okay, sir.
Speaker 2:I feel like you don't live that life for real.
Speaker 4:He doesn't. That's how I feel like. I feel like we give them so much of our culture and we allow them in our culture so much, and it'd be so hard for us to even just be around their culture. So I feel some type of way when it'd be like other people, another nationalities. You don't like white rappers. No, I love them because I love Eminem but what I don't like like Fabio saying the N-word around.
Speaker 2:I was always taught never to say the N-word around other races.
Speaker 4:Don't say it around them. Never even say it around them. Oh, because it's like you're giving them power to feel comfortable, for them to eventually, one day to say it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I've seen that happen before.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I see that I had this one white guy I knew I used to work with and he was saying how he used to say it around one of his homeboys and then he said it around they homeboys and they beat his ass.
Speaker 4:He was like he didn't even have my back. I said yeah nigga, why would he? Why would he yeah. So it's just like certain things. And then it's just like when they get accepted. And it's like one thing about Eminem Eminem never tried to be us, eminem was Eminem.
Speaker 5:Bring your mic a little closer.
Speaker 4:Oh sorry, yeah, Eminem was Eminem, so it was just like it never felt like he was trying to be a street dude a black dude. It just felt like he was Eminem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was. He was really doing his own shit, yeah.
Speaker 4:So it's like I love rappers. So it's like I love rappers. I love, I just love music. But it's just like when they, when they mimic our style, like he don't sound like who he could possibly be.
Speaker 2:It sounds like a caricature, yeah.
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Speaker 5:Help you and your loved ones see the world, yeah let's introduce the show You're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host, Rhetorik, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, Miss Reality, Hi guys.
Speaker 4:Oh, I love that intro. Okay, let me see, we're going to get me a good one and we have a special guest with us.
Speaker 5:You've already given an introduction beforehand.
Speaker 2:Stylist, extraordinaire image consultant Ty Woo.
Speaker 4:Image consultant. I'm going gonna have to steal this just for right now. We're gonna bite off a law and steal image architecture image architect.
Speaker 2:I'm with it, yeah period.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so I'm gonna bite that one for right now okay.
Speaker 2:So before we get into anything, like Ty before we were recording was telling us about like his story, and I wanted him to share that with you guys, because where he was and where he is now it's like night and day.
Speaker 4:Oh wow, I love that. Yeah, it's so night and day, where do?
Speaker 2:you want me to start? Start at the beginning. Start yeah, start at like the the beginning of of you getting into styling and your struggles and your successes now and how you got here.
Speaker 4:Okay, cool. So short story, just a little background. I'm from Connecticut, from Bridgeport, connecticut. You're from Bridgeport what you know about Bridgeport?
Speaker 2:I went to the University of Bridgeport my freshman year, oh yes, I'm from Bridgeport, newfield, east End. That's crazy. I went about Bridgeport. I went to the University of Bridgeport my freshman year. Oh, yes, I'm from Bridgeport, newfield East End. That's crazy. I went to Bridgeport. That's crazy. Yes, I didn't know that. That's what we really bonding. Now it makes sense.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, like I said, I'm from Bridgeport, connecticut. It's a factory town, what. My grandmother worked there for years but, um, and I've always been into fashion, like I've always been fly, my mother always kept us in pieces and stuff like that. You know, we kept us in pieces as far as, like, the urban street warrior, um, and what really really sparked my interest into fashion? Um, I told you about my aunt, but really it was this guy named Wiles who lived in on the east end with us fly ass dude I ain't gonna say that word, but fly ass dude. He like he was the dude that used to have the, like the, the beamer, and like he used to have this white dude yo my gosh, he had this white audi.
Speaker 4:It was. Was it an audio bins? No, he had a bins, a white bins, and he used to always have every different avarex and beat um pelly, pelly jacket like didn't like. You know, you had to be like the dudes that had the leather joints, you couldn't just have like any old like he used to have the leather joints with the hat he was picking it fresh up yo oh my gosh, it was very so much paid in full like yo he was very so much money.
Speaker 4:Mitch, I love wiles and um, so he always used to spark my interest. I always used to want to be like like the it dude on the block, like I always try to be that, so, um, that's where my my interest of fashion really began. Shoulder bling, oh sorry yeah then my aunt allowed me to help her with being a seamstress, so like, like sewing and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:I kind of got into it. Then I moved down here. I told you about my ex-boyfriend who was a street pharmaceutical rep, who was Mr Polo man, and I used to dress him and his friends, so like that's what really kind of pushed me more into um being a stylist and personal shopper. Um, in the midst of that, you know, I came down here, actually for college. I came down here to to really be went to. First I went to Johnson and Wales in Charlotte, for culinary arts.
Speaker 4:I really could cut like I want to be a sous chef okay like that was what I was really trying to be, like a chef more than anything, cuz I felt like that was a calling of mine, but I didn't like it as much mm-hmm. I love fashion. Then I went to our Institute. I got a scholarship to go to Art Institute, went to Art Institute of Atlanta.
Speaker 4:I see that more for you. It was. So me I felt right in Went to Art Institute of Atlanta, didn't finish, went to Georgia State, ended up going to Georgia State and was in school for marketing, you know, just the general subjects. It was like, oh, it makes more sense to do stuff. That was general. But I just always let me go back to fashion. Um, in the midst of going to school, I was living on the south side, like I said, I lived around the corner, um, and in the midst of that, um, I was homeless. So I used to live with my aunt and I left from living with my aunt just because, you know, not like it was bad, just it just wasn't working out for me.
Speaker 4:I was homeless and I've never gone front. I met a guy who I was dealing with and I was dealing with him, you know, just to lay my head. So I was living, I was living.
Speaker 2:We not going to judge every, not everyone, but people.
Speaker 4:People have those people have those times. Trust me, you can't talk about me now. Them flights I catch, please.
Speaker 2:On a can't talk about me. Now them flights I catch please on a regular basis.
Speaker 5:The delta points are stacking exactly. I didn't. I didn't talk to a little mud duck for a meal.
Speaker 4:I listen, I didn't talk to him, for I didn't listen.
Speaker 4:He wasn't a mud duck though I get that, but yeah, I used to live with him to like, um, have a place to live. And then me and him fell out and I met this other dude who was actually like, really such a good guy. I wish I would have did right by him, but, um, again, I was staying with him, just not be homeless, and then got kicked out of his house and I used to live. I used to be homeless for like a month and a half, maybe two months, so I used to have a big black suitcase but I was fly as fuck, so they never thought I was really homeless so they just thought you was on the go, on the go it was so funny because I used to sleep at the Hurstville Jackson train station, where Marta used to like.
Speaker 4:You go downstairs and there's the Marta's little station down there. I used to sleep right there.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 4:What year was that I want to say. It was like around 2010, 2011.
Speaker 2:Like having to sleep in the train station. Pre-gentrification is scary to me like it's scary now. Still, the train station is scary in general having to sleep there, but I feel like it was probably less active.
Speaker 5:It's probably less active. Lana was just in that progression where it was just getting bigger. It was just getting bigger so there wasn't a lot of people.
Speaker 4:It wasn't a lot of people then too. It was also like it was like you. I met a lot of people. Then, too, it was also like I met a lot of people that was homeless, that was still on the hustle with me. Actually, one of my good friends, ink, she was homeless with me Well, not really homeless, but we was both kind of going through our struggle. She actually now writing music for J-Lo and shit, oh wow. So you meet people in the midst of all of that.
Speaker 4:You meet people in the midst of doing of that, like you meet people in the midst of doing that. So, like I met a lot of people who you know, I met a lot of kids that was running away.
Speaker 4:I met a lot of you know other people that was just figuring life out so it was difficult but I never looked like I was really a homeless person like I looked like like I said, like I was just on the run, like on the move, like I used to carry this big black suitcase full of like I had like probably 12 outfits toothbrush, toothpaste. You know I always had deodorant and you know I would go in the bathroom, wipe it up real quick, go look for a job and then I'll go back into the payment. I would stay at the Artsville Jackson Trade Station and I'll stay in Doraville and then my best friend, she moved. So then when she moved back, I came back to live with her and my other three best friends.
Speaker 5:Okay so what would you say? Your defining moment was that made you know I'm really in this industry, the way that I want to be and feel more comfortable in your career.
Speaker 4:I don't have one, not yet, okay, not yet I don't have one.
Speaker 2:Ty, I feel like you should definitely give yourself more credit.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I don't think I've made it yet, and I think that's what's keeping me going harder.
Speaker 5:I mean just to this point right now. It's still a step If you was to tell the story from this point now a defining moment that got you from where it didn't feel possible, to it felt possible, I'll be honest, I'll
Speaker 4:have days where I don't think that this shit gonna work, because I'll be like it's hard, like I'll be trying to tell people everybody, people see me and they think that I've made it and everything, and I be like it stays I might only have 20 to my name still like it ain't. It ain't hit yet for me, and it's crazy because I've worked with a lot of people in the world, but I don't. I I think you know what I'm gonna. No, let me back up. I'm correct myself. Um, actually it was two months ago. Me and Laura was working together and and I was in LA in his house and he was just like everything is possible for everybody in any situation. I just gotta work ten times harder and and listen to how he went through his story. So I believe it's still possible, but I'm also in this phase like when is it gonna pop? So?
Speaker 2:So I believe it's still possible, but I'm also in this phase like when is it going to pop Because I've been at it for a minute and it's just like.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's all part of the grind though, just whatever you're doing, if you guys don't know who Law Roach is.
Speaker 2:He is an image architect. That's what he calls himself.
Speaker 4:The image architect the image architect.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, he's the only person that works with Zendaya. He works with Naomi, he works with Celine. He's like the stylist, the person and Ty has.
Speaker 4:He's like your mentor right, he's like my mentor, my like, my hero, my guidance, my tough ass in the thorn all that like he's all of that yeah, he definitely seems like he oh gonna give you some tough love.
Speaker 4:Oh, it is not like a scene it is that so what it looks like it is he gives you tough love, but I I thank him because it's seeing where he, like I said, seeing where he come from and seeing where he is at now. Back to your question. That's what gets me to hope that I know that I'm going to make it.
Speaker 2:Tell us a little bit about, like, how you met Law and like how you got to be this close to him. Oh wow.
Speaker 4:I met Law, so his best friend is my good friend and one day he was here doing the city girls, um, and he needed some assistance, like you know doing, like you know, assistant work, intern work. I work for law for maybe a half a year or maybe to a year for free, just whenever he needed me I would be there too yeah yeah but we live in a time where people don't feel like they want to work for anybody for free.
Speaker 2:You work for Law Roach for free, 100%.
Speaker 4:And I worked for him for free.
Speaker 2:That's not. Don't play with that.
Speaker 4:And I was one of the ones that did it yeah that's smart.
Speaker 4:I remember that he needed somebody for the City Girls intern and I that he needed somebody for the city girls intern and, um, I never forget the conversation. I thought I was the flyest thing in the motherfucking world. I walked in there, I walked into his room and he was like you think you look cute, huh? I was like yeah, I do right. And he looked. He was like no, that wasn't a compliment like like shut me down, like you came here. He was like you came here. He was like you came here to work and fast forward. Um he, um, yeah, he like shut me down and we worked that whole week and I remember I was like well, you know, I want to ask you some questions. He was like this is the best time to ask some questions, cause that's your payment. I was like, okay, that's fine. So I started asking him a whole bunch of questions. He was like okay, that's enough questions. I'm tired of you.
Speaker 5:Exhaust the questions.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because I was running him down like well, what do I need to do here? What do we do here, what do we do here? And he was just like okay, you asked me too many questions, Like that's enough, I'm tired of you and I had called out sick. But most people won't do that. They are getting paid to work here, I called out sick to work for Laurel Roach for free. Can you imagine that? To sit there? And be someone's gopher To be, basically to do all the running around for free I mean.
Speaker 5:but even just to be like I can just understand, Even wanting to be in that environment of something that you're passionate about, is kind of worth it at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:It is, at least for this one day, especially with someone, of that caliber.
Speaker 4:I did it for a year, almost, I want to say almost a year. So I worked for him. And then one day, but like he calls you run and I'm like it's not that I run, it's like it's not weird. Yeah, but you know, people say, because they don't understand it, but people don't understand working for free. Because I did a lot of shoots back in the day for free, people don't understand working for him for free. This man, I owe everything to him. I say this in the most humblest way, even like I owe so much to him because this man took me around the world.
Speaker 4:This man has given me the confidence given me the knowledge given me, and that's priceless it's so priceless and it's like I can walk into a room and I can walk to a client and they be like, oh, how much you charge out the back. I'm 6k yeah. I can off the back 6k what we talking.
Speaker 2:So you said that you asked him a bunch of questions. So for stylists that want to get into the game, right. And they want to get into the industry. What are like a couple tips that you could give someone that wants to start out. And like, what did he tell you?
Speaker 4:So I'm gonna I'm gonna actually plug him in go get his book, Um, how to build a fashion icon, um, cause all the tips that he's given me is in there. But I'll give y'all one or two that I stuck with. One is always believe in yourself. You got to be confident. That confidence is what shows to your client that you can make it right. So if I dress you in fairness, I got to be confident that you look that great into it so that when you go to the world you can be you know, I'm saying confident enough so that you can put a look off.
Speaker 4:And the second thing is stylists get into it sometimes just because they like think everything's just pretty right. You got to really be knowledgeable in your industry. Like that's the hardest thing that I've, that's the hardest thing that I've learned from being around this man. Like I need to know everything from front to back. Like this means a walking dictionary. So, with him being walking this year, I had need to know everything from front to back. Like this man is a walking dictionary. So, with him being a walk-in dictionary, I had to learn if I'm going to be the next big stylist, which I am. So like I always tell people I'm the next best stylist since the best stylist retired you know um little wayne quote, but um I say that.
Speaker 4:So I say that to say like I had to learn everything. So I like, like since I've met this man, I've been brushing up on just the history of fashion. So like those are key factors, because everything else you know, you learn on your way you know, you know who don't know how to put clothes together a lot of people don't?
Speaker 2:so, speaking of people who don't know how to put clothes together, that's a great segue into the bet awards, cuz child. Hmm, it was something for real. So we're gonna talk about. We're gonna talk about all of the the looks from the BET Awards and then we'll get into the performances. So let's just we'll go like a quick one too, right. Okay, so we'll start with Hallie, right?
Speaker 5:yeah, she was definitely on one of my. I made a little list too okay, so again y'all not gonna be just having me muted out on these fashion conversations okay, that was her game plan, that was my game. Yeah, well, she wanted me to x me out.
Speaker 4:She really don't even want me in the shot I love it I you know, I love to hear, like the straight guys, opinions about fashion see, I got some.
Speaker 2:I got some some poignant opinions like to hear straight men's opinions about anything that's so hallie bailey was styled by nikki good wearing avalano she looks good. I think it's like she was on my clean look. It's a clean look she was on my hit list.
Speaker 5:What did you say? What's your opinion? I liked it. I think that she was very good for her figure.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I think she's very always in the modest department. I think she plays it really well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she does, she really does. That's Coleman. Coleman is a beast, with Wayman Micah Eakes combing down.
Speaker 2:I love him.
Speaker 4:I actually got to meet him at the Critic Choice Awards.
Speaker 2:Ooh, how is he in person? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:You ever felt like you wanted to be on Cloud 9? Uh-huh. Like that man is like a piece of candy that you always wanted to have. Like you don't want to eat it, but you don't want to save it.
Speaker 5:He is just like impe, like impeccable see, I'm a hater of brothers who can who can pull that off with the open shirt like that? Yeah, I can't pull it off like that.
Speaker 4:So I'm a hater, you could. We just gotta find a way to tweak it it's a lot of wolf in here he does have a lot of chest hair, so um.
Speaker 2:Next we have chloe bailey chloe looks good.
Speaker 4:You already know how. Yeah, she's, she's always hitting them, she's always giving sex?
Speaker 2:Yeah, chloe, usually looks good If you've been a long-time listener.
Speaker 5:You know how I go about, Chloe. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he go up for Chloe. He is a Chloe Stan Page walking, literally Literally.
Speaker 4:You can't go wrong.
Speaker 2:Okay, so next we have Usher and his wife Jennifer.
Speaker 4:And I think she's in scaparelli. Yeah, and I don't know. Um, I'm not sure what usher is. I think he's in ralph laura. Should he still be doing the jeans now though? Like should he came. This is, yeah, this is for him. He's. He did a repeat from one of his other looks for okay, bt award okay, and then we have yeah she did um vince's versace yeah, I don't like the the orange on orange.
Speaker 2:And then what do you feel? How do you feel about the rap girls wearing the big ass chains with the outfits that you obviously don't need to be wearing big ass chains with?
Speaker 4:I'm not a fan of it. I'm going to say it like that. I feel that it's keeping them close to their culture. But it takes away the elegance from the gown.
Speaker 2:It does.
Speaker 4:I love the fact that Timothy is getting her into these archive moments, so it's like he's bringing um. He's another one that's been um, you know, in the world of archetype and vintage, but he does um. He's been putting her in archive moments and I like the fact that it's you know, it's vintage versace. You can't go wrong with it.
Speaker 2:Um it's a beautiful gown. It looks good on her body. I just don't like the the hair and the chain. What do you think about? I think, ice. Um, I think her hair is too warm for her skin. Like she has very cool toned skin, I think if she went like an icy blonde it would. That would look amazing it would eat. I think the the warm, very orange that she's been doing the whole time we've known her is probably one of the worst looking colors for her skin tone.
Speaker 5:I love it it's like a superimposed marilyn monroe picture.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, I, um, and then the hair is just big. I love that she just vented the satchel.
Speaker 5:I'm gonna say that the hair is just big. I love that. She just vented Versace. I'm going to say that the hair is giving on to you Hold on hold on Acknowledge that I ate you did, don't, do that. Don't, let me not eat.
Speaker 2:Okay, so next we have Gunna. What do you think about Gunna's look? I loved it for Gunna. What is he wearing?
Speaker 4:Do you know who he's in?
Speaker 2:be saint lauren yeah, so I like, I like everything gun has been doing since he got out honestly, like I think he's toned that body up.
Speaker 4:You can get that off with the muscles yeah, he looks amazing, he looks real good, you don't got your traps right.
Speaker 5:You really can't get you can't get the vest off like that a lot of niggas a lot of niggas try to get the vest off with with tiny traps yeah, next we have flo millie and she's in. Go ta she was in my my hit list too. She was a winner a winner to you? Yeah, I liked it, you liked it I didn't.
Speaker 2:I I think the proportions are off. Okay, um, I I actually. I saw a picture of flo millie next to meg the stallion and she's like an inch shorter than meg.
Speaker 5:I did not know she was that tall oh yeah, she's tall, she's a very tall glass of chocolate she said that in shana's interview, when she did an interview with shana, that she didn't expect her to be that tall yeah, so flow is super tall, I think.
Speaker 2:I think if it was just um tailored differently, just like maybe an inch up here, an inch up here, a little bit less of scrunchiness on it. Like a little bit of touching would would have made it like chef's kiss for me.
Speaker 5:Next time? We know you got to do the. Where is that on the body for the listener since?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, an inch up on the waist. I think the little, the little top piece is a little too far down and I think that there's a little bit too much fabric on the neck, on the neck um.
Speaker 4:I'ma say this it is a piece, is a look I just I wish because of her height and her beauty. I would have just did me simply, I would have did something with a super six split and just body just give the illusion for body. I think that would have been great for me. But I mean again, you know she chose that gown, that piece it was. It was a nice look for her yeah, it's a. It's a it's an okay moment, this guy this guy's good.
Speaker 5:He's doing the pc. I see what you did there I peeped it so jay ellis.
Speaker 4:I just think he's a gorgeous man, he's a gorgeous man and I think we're gonna leave that there this is a.
Speaker 2:I think this is like a very clean, simple, and I don't think you need to do that much for the BET awards that's hate.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna let you come here and do that you can't do that, so let me say this you gotta do better than the than the masters jacket.
Speaker 4:I'ma say this, i'ma say this and I'ma leave this. How I'm going to say this? I'm going to say this and I'm going to leave this. How I'm going to leave this? Bet has to start putting restrictions on wardrobe. That wouldn't have just been acceptable for the Oscars and he wouldn't have chose that for the Oscars. We got to start treating our own as if it was anything else. I feel that, as if but see that's what I was saying with Usher, though I felt what Usher did was he was doing a.
Speaker 2:A Ralph Lauren moment.
Speaker 4:Not even Well. You know he just did something with Ralph Lauren, so you know he's just doing that. But also, what Usher was doing was recreating the moment that he's already done.
Speaker 5:Okay. So for him it wasn't like so, disrespecting the BET twice. But, it was more so for him it was like more of a recreating.
Speaker 4:This is to me lazy I'm not gonna say that, I'm just gonna sit there and say it could be elevated, elevated salute.
Speaker 5:I I respect that yeah, I respect that definitely um, really quickly talking about bts dress code.
Speaker 2:Um, what the hell is the aesthetic for the BET awards? Because I feel like every award show has a very specific aesthetic and people dress for that, but the BET awards is always all over the place red carpet wise um.
Speaker 4:so back when I I so I did. I did the BET wars back in 2010. No 2000, not 10, 2013, 14. And when I did the BET wars I did it for 2 Chainz wife Keisha. I did her in. I did her actually twice. I did her one time in an Herve Legere dress and then I did her the second year. I did her one time in an Herve Leger dress and then I did her the second year. I did this elegant white time for a dress. During that time I felt like there was more of a restriction and you could start seeing the restriction fade because the rappers wanted to wear what they wanted to wear what they was comfortable with wear what they wanted to wear, what they was comfortable with.
Speaker 4:But I feel as if over the years, you know, I guess, the corporate heads of bt just kind of became more relaxed. So it's not really a restriction, because you want the rappers to come, because you know that's the more publicity that you're gonna get and all that other stuff. But it's like now nowadays people's half naked and the guys ain't really putting no effort.
Speaker 4:I would love to see, really not yeah, I would love to see you in a nice suit. Yeah, you go to the oscars, you go to the grimace in the suit. Why can't we come to the bt in the suit?
Speaker 5:oh yeah, that's fair. They'll get right for the, for the pale people, but not for their own people yeah, and you wonder why they don't respect our stuff?
Speaker 4:because we don't respect it.
Speaker 2:It starts with us yeah, I think people need to definitely start coming correct for the BET Awards. Victoria Monet, I think, did that yes, she came correct great. It looks crazy, she looks great, so she is that she was styled by Colin Carter who eats down he always eats honestly, um, and it's by I don't know how to pronounce this Sluisa, sluisa. Yeah, samuel Lewis.
Speaker 4:She eats. It wasn't nothing wrong the only thing was more, so the hair. I wish the hair was more up, but she looks amazing.
Speaker 5:Okay, I thought that was denim at first.
Speaker 2:No, it's not denim so. Did y'all see Flo J. No, I didn't see flo jay there and she was there, she had like a green dress.
Speaker 5:She had a green dress on, yeah her, her brother.
Speaker 4:Her brother had a, I think a suit yeah, I didn't see him.
Speaker 5:I just saw pictures of her. She was. She looked really good though next we have honcho.
Speaker 2:What do y'all feel about honcho?
Speaker 5:shout out to honcho I feel like he just looked like a nigga I still got you winning all black.
Speaker 4:I still got you winning against dennis duke I just feel like it goes back to what I'm saying. It's still like if it was the grammys, what would you would have worn for the grammys?
Speaker 2:low-key. I feel like he would have wore this. I don't think I don't, but see there's a difference.
Speaker 4:The grammys have a requirement yeah they have, you know, summer walker eight.
Speaker 2:It's a cute little moment, it was, it was something so different from what she normally do? I loved it.
Speaker 4:I love this. Let me stop there too. I want to say this you know who really shocked me for the Grammys, I meant for BZ Awards Sukiyana she was there this year. She was there this year.
Speaker 2:I didn't see her at all her stylist this year.
Speaker 4:I don't know who he is, but I have to shout him out. He did a phenomenal job. She did a crystal gown, I mean crystal dress cocktail, and it was. It was. It was so impeccable, it was, it was beautiful. I loved it because it was so different from what she normally would do. I have to give her props because that was one of the best I didn't see her on any of the lists.
Speaker 2:So, coco jones, that's her signature style that was my number one yeah, she looks great. She's a beautiful the body is bodying. We love that skilla baby. I don't know he looks like he got out the closet he usually is like a little adorable to me. Here he looks like he bites people, like I don't know what's going on, but like I don't like this at all the double denim with the off color he has a little babushka I don't know tyla and versace. She killed it.
Speaker 4:Amazing hey I feel like tyler and it was vintage. Yeah, it was vintage, I think that was 2001, 2002 yeah, she definitely.
Speaker 2:It was definitely vintage and I feel like Tyler is one of those girls that's always gonna look amazing. She has the body yeah because, like she has, the body, all of the, all of the the houses want to dress her, all of the stylists want to dress her. Everyone wants to put her in their, their shit clothes were made for her well, it's that and she, she has the bike.
Speaker 5:I feel like she's the zendaya for music yeah, definitely, they have the same exact yeah, archetype, I'm probably even a little bit better because she's not as tall as zendaya but see, that's, that's the better part okay so yeah, zendaya is more model-esque. I just think it'd be less fabric, yeah, and because she's tall.
Speaker 4:But see, when you're that tall, you can wear everything. So, even something short gonna look great on you, something long gonna look great on you. It's that, it's the aesthetic of you alone.
Speaker 2:Tyla is probably like part of my top ten. Honestly, moony long. I didn't like the proportions. It was too short. If it was, maybe like four inches longer it would have been very, very nice.
Speaker 4:It's a beautiful. Her makeup is pretty. She's very pretty.
Speaker 2:She's very pretty and she's tiny. She's like a double zero. I've seen her in person. She's tiny. Yeah she's tiny, tiny, low-key. I just want to scroll past the men, because the men always give us nothing.
Speaker 5:That's hate. Tank brought the guns out.
Speaker 2:Young Miami is. She's just giving body and is giving Fashion Nova dress. It's given I have access to this and I can wear it next week. It's not going to look like that on me, though.
Speaker 4:But it's pretty, she looks pretty. You know what? She looks pretty. I actually gave Young Miami. Can we say that, mm-hmm, that's very Young Miami. The bob is clean. It's giving no ditty Okay.
Speaker 2:I can take that. So, taraji, actually wore 10. Looks for the awards. I don't have pictures of all 10, but I have who she wore for all 10. Look, number one is, I think, beaumont, beaumont, mm-hmm, so she the dress is beautiful.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Saisha. I got to give her a shout out. Saisha is her makeup artist. Saisha, my bad, my bad. Saisha is her makeup artist, which is actually one of my clients. So shout out to Saisha Sure her makeup was amazing all night.
Speaker 2:So the carpet look was Beaumont, the look number two was Retrofit.
Speaker 4:Retrofit.
Speaker 2:Look number. Well, look, number one was Retrofit Look, number two was Valdrini Sahidi and then three was Bishmay Kromy, I think three or two was the yellow dress yes, four was ruchmal mishra, which was like like I think that no the black one yeah, the next one was laquan smith and she wore the green.
Speaker 2:That was the short green dress and then theophilio and then off-white, which was, I think, one of my favorite. That was, it was like kind of I think it was floral print, that like red and white. It was very, very pretty. Um, uh, bishmay chromarty again, I think she yeah another look. So she wore two of those, sergio hudson and then laverre couture, and and you've worked with them before, right, you said you put somebody in that, yeah, so yeah, she was serving. Look after, look after look.
Speaker 4:Wayma and Micah are great stylists and they have some great moments.
Speaker 5:Salute, I'm with that. I like how you did that. That was notable.
Speaker 4:Tia Mowry she's a beautiful lady, beautiful lady. I don't like it. She's a beautiful lady, yeah.
Speaker 2:She's a beautiful lady and I don't like it. I don't even.
Speaker 5:We got to go to some of the misses now.
Speaker 2:So sexy red in the blondes. I wasn't mad at this I was so surprised that this was the blondes, because I was definitely like she was expecting more dramatic from them this looks like pretty little thing for real.
Speaker 5:I mean, I think it's, it is definitely her I think it is definitely her.
Speaker 2:I think her look is just unpolished. I think she tries to look unpolished at this point because there's no way she's being her you, you have access to, to being able to look polished so let's stop there.
Speaker 4:Right, she has funds, but a lot of brands still don't want to dress a lot of a lot of us yeah so um, we have to take that account up here. Accountability you work for you, you get it.
Speaker 2:There are so many other brands other than the your fashion houses.
Speaker 4:And they still got to want to work with you To request clothes for these people. It's so hard. It's so hard to request clothes.
Speaker 2:I would want to. If I had a brand and people hit me up to dress sexy red, I'd be like hell yeah.
Speaker 5:But I mean, that's an up-and-comer independent. He's talking more like bigger, bigger names.
Speaker 4:No, no, don't pass her. She was amazing, she looked good, she looks good. Make it good looks great.
Speaker 2:She looks good. Yeah, keith lee and ron lee in. They're actually in in mario and lee. I went to college with this kid is it supposed to look like that?
Speaker 5:yeah, is it. Is it supposed?
Speaker 2:to have loosely. I don't. I know of him is the?
Speaker 5:is the the length supposed to be like that with his? Whatever that green thing is?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay, I guess, and then she has on all chanel accessories let them know I don't love it, but shout out. Shout out to mario and lee, because he's letting y'all know he getting money like.
Speaker 5:Y'all need to put some respect on my man.
Speaker 2:He's letting y'all know he getting money nisi nash and her wife giving lesbian realness we love it okay, like oh my god, lord, okay, so I actually, I actually want to get into some people that I really like hold on, go back, vince Vic Mensa.
Speaker 5:What is he? What do you think about Vic Mensa?
Speaker 2:I think I think Vic Mensa doesn't look bad. I think the very, very dramatic break on the pants is a little much.
Speaker 5:Man, all that is much.
Speaker 4:So when I speak about works again, let me break down what happens sometimes with dressing a client. You might have the best outfit, but the client gonna do what they wanna do for one thing Two it might be a situation where you might gotta split in your pants the outfit, the original outfit. It could be an epic fail from the original outfit. We don't know. I know me, I'm gonna have a certain aesthetic to have that backup. I think for me I would have styled him totally differently.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm going to bring you the options that I'm going to like.
Speaker 5:He looked. It was a goofy look for him, for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Hold on, no, there's another miss there Black Chyna, I think looked like Jada Waita from a couple years ago, oh, when Jada Waita did 22 and 23.
Speaker 4:Can't call her Black Chyna no more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, angela White yeah, angela white, but when she she was in tl zilla t t, z, t z l fem tl, yeah, um, I think it's very similar, extremely similar.
Speaker 5:All right, we gotta go to the other, angela, because I had an issue. No other way, other way, go down no gotta go to the other angela, angela simmons oh, I didn't scroll past her yet you had did, but just keep going scrolling now right there, oh okay so angela simmons with that little gun purse, that's, that's kind of nasty are you gonna say you gonna say something about this that's.
Speaker 4:There's so many reasons that's wrong no, because you got to understand what she was representing you guys.
Speaker 2:So what was she representing? Because she was just holding it up like so, so okay.
Speaker 4:so let me say this right, people try to tell. So the thing in fashion is we want to tell a story. Right, in the process of telling a story, you want to tell whatever kind of story you want to tell. She's trying to tell y'all, like she riding with her man, how her man move, you know Gotti, like he ain't no cookie cutter, he's around the way type of dude.
Speaker 5:So she telling you like I'm, like you know I'm with it like we got a preacher's daughter going out here toting tools but they always said the preacher daughters was the ones that was with with it the most I don't know, I think it's a little corny, just a little bit and then just to go with just some other stuff in her history. When it comes to just personal things going on with her that involves gun violence. It's just like come on.
Speaker 4:now I get it, but I'm also saying it's a story she's trying to tell. Yeah. And the story might have. I'm not saying that the story makes the mark, or it doesn't.
Speaker 5:I think it makes Sometimes we got to look at the script a little bit yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so last miss I want to talk about is Saucy Santana in Beaum.
Speaker 4:That wasn't Balmain, that was Rick Owens. Oh, rick Owens, yeah.
Speaker 5:And the shoes. He's worn those shoes multiple times at other events. Oh, I love you. I'm just keeping it a bean.
Speaker 2:Fashion police. Oh, I need to go change my shoes. Today I did the science.
Speaker 5:I was out there doing the science.
Speaker 2:He's worn that multiple times already that's.
Speaker 4:That's his go-to boot so just saying there are a couple of girls that weren't on that list.
Speaker 2:That I love. So I, mariah the scientist and roberto cavalli. It was so cute. It was very adorable, very dainty, I think the hair flipped up and the body jewelry was like cute, I would wear what?
Speaker 4:I would sit there and say what I liked about it Is given 2007 Back in the day, that was a story I do like Would I Say that's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2:What do you think about La, la Milan and Aria?
Speaker 4:I feel like Aria is a good classic moment For anybody. It's like it's a cute little moment. It's a cute moment, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, this was probably my favorite look and I didn't get her name in it, but eight, I love that look. I think her body looks so good.
Speaker 4:Her body looks amazing. It's a beautiful dress.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't go wrong with that yeah, and I just want to pull up really quick who she's wearing. Like, who is she wearing? So her name is lenae venae and she's wearing oh lord, I cannot pronounce that. We's derm frank. I think it's. German or something We's Derm Franklin. Okay, she looks absolutely flawless and gorgeous, so we can get into the performances next.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we got to get into the BET Awards themselves. Now we can talk, yeah All right. So it started off with Meg. She was the opening act.
Speaker 2:Did you see that? I did.
Speaker 5:I think she did a good job it wasn't bad, but it felt like she was tired a little bit but you just keep in mind, she just got off a tour she's still on tour.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying I thought they ended their tour on the 21st.
Speaker 5:No I think they still have some more dates because she got to do elena again and then she also opened up some dates. Remember we talked about the cancellation.
Speaker 4:She asked some more dates. She had some more in texas too okay, she canceled her European tour.
Speaker 5:Okay, so okay people were saying there's just been some spots, some some countries, I don't know, because we did talk about the, uh, the tour being canceled, uh, but they did. I will say this they did open up some more dates in Texas, which to me feels like, okay, maybe we couldn't sell them dates, let's go back to our home base and try to collect what we can there. So I will say it is interesting about what's been going on with that, but it did feel like to me, like she was a little little gas, a little bit I?
Speaker 4:I was sitting there and say all in all retrospect for one I from, like I said for me during the 2000, and what 13, 14, um, it's hot as hell on them stage with oh, for sure, oh yeah and and again.
Speaker 2:She just got off a tour, but I'm gonna sit here and say she looked amazing yeah, she looked athlete she did a really phenomenal job she has been getting on her fitness honestly they tried to put the o on her. Those olympic nah she nah, you can tell by like that's workout yeah, the way she the the breath control that she has now versus.
Speaker 5:That cut in her thigh right there she had. That's not manufactured that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:But I did enjoy that. Then they went to Taraji trying to do the Kendrick thing To me. I don't feel like they put her in her best element at all that the whole night.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I didn't like her hosting a lot.
Speaker 4:So you know the thing is right. I get right now why they choosing Taraji.
Speaker 2:I was excited when I saw her.
Speaker 4:She apologized, oprah, I don't know why. Listen, I'm one of those people. If I said I stand on it, I don't give a fuck what nobody got to say. But I kind of want them to go back to when Monique did it.
Speaker 2:I think that was the best. Host of the BET Awards was Monique.
Speaker 4:Monique, but Monique was the best to me. I think that moment was so iconic.
Speaker 2:When she did Crazy in Love. Like the whole Beyonce moment. I think they were trying to recreate that probably, but you can't because let me tell you why it's not.
Speaker 4:Let me tell you that the thing right now, this culture of music. I'm, I'm 36, right, so being 36, I've seen, I'm, and I'm a music fan. So, like I've seen hip-hop, I've seen love I I've seen R&B, I've seen all of it all, all of it all, and I feel like now we, in a time where everybody just want to shake their ass and do all this like and that was very apparent on the BET Awards in 2024.
Speaker 2:It was a lot of ass shaking on stage, yeah, and I feel like A lot of it.
Speaker 4:And I feel like that's why it missed it. Don't come off authentic with her, because that's not really to taraji. Taraji, give you prissy lady. You know cunty I think she give you. I can get with it.
Speaker 2:I feel like she gives you like raw too. She's very like genuine down to earth. I feel like that's why we've loved her for so long, like she was famous to black people before she was famous in general for mad long I we've loved her for a very long time. I was mad excited when I saw taraji. I think they should have had her like be herself more. Yeah, I think this was I agree with.
Speaker 2:First, she was outside of her element. She didn't know most of a lot of the lyrics to like what she it was, just it was it was too rushed, yeah well, let's talk about the keith lee thing too, a little bit oh yeah, so there was a little situation where there was some drama but for to her defense, I don't think she knows she don't got a right.
Speaker 4:Let me tell the people what happened and then, uh, we can get into it.
Speaker 5:So what happened was she was introducing an award well, not an award, but a rose.
Speaker 2:She was giving out roses yeah, and she was supposed to be giving the keith lee but she didn't recognize that she was actually with Jordan something. The guy that does the stuff with Method man sometimes.
Speaker 5:He's also a social media guy, so she ended up giving the rose to him incorrectly. She tries to clean it up. Keith Lee then does a post and deleted him, throwing the rose on the ground.
Speaker 2:Which is dramatic.
Speaker 5:He gets into his car. He tells everybody what he was upset about, which he said he wasn't really mad at uh taraji, he was mad at the whole production on them, not informing her what, who he was. She then comes out says hey, you wasn't in your right seat, but y'all gotta understand. This nigga is a ufc fighter. He's probably on edge all the time I gotta say usc fighter.
Speaker 4:Uh, he used to be a ufc fighter.
Speaker 6:Yeah, that explains a I didn't know that I got to be on the edge.
Speaker 5:That's why he got to be at the exit row. I can't be in the middle. They wanted him to be in between. I can't do that. I'm crazy. I got shit going on in my head. Niggas might be trying to come anywhere at me, so I understand. She knows me when we go into anywhere.
Speaker 4:10 steps ahead of what can happen. So that's so. Let's keep that. That's not USC situation, that's a man with his wife. I'm gonna be politically correct because I don't wanna say it's gonna be a mass of people watching this. That's black men in poverty situation, because we all do that. I do that. Now I gotta sit to my back against the wall. That's just people from probably situation.
Speaker 5:Let's say it's ptsd trauma a little bit, but I'm pretty sure they told him to sit right. He said no, I'm not sitting right there, but for the fact being one.
Speaker 4:If that was the case, then you should have had your pr people hit them up from the jump and say, hey, these are my requirements if I'm gonna attend period yeah you know, I'm saying that's just that. Secondly, um far as far as him throwing the rose, I still felt like you know what type of backlash you're gonna get from doing that, so why would you even do it?
Speaker 4:so you wanted that attention to now have to now have more of a subject to talk about, because you can't just say, oh, she got the wrong person, because then you would look like you mad yeah so you need. I think he was though it was. He was definitely mad he was, but that was the reason, but that was the reason To film that and then do that, to now have more of a subject To say oh, I'm not mad with her, but now, now I need to get off my chest.
Speaker 5:And I didn't like y'all people who was saying Nigga, all you do Is eat in your car. That's not right.
Speaker 4:Don't do that Y'all. But you can't knock the fact that he Built a career off of eating his carbs.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but he also doing more than that. Yeah, he does more than that now.
Speaker 4:But in the beginning of building his career. That's what he did.
Speaker 2:Technically in the beginning Of his career, he was making Ronnie meals while she Was pregnant. That's when I Started following Keith. I started following Keith Before he started reviewing food, so he was just a nice man but what?
Speaker 4:who was?
Speaker 2:making food in in his kitchen and then that's, he got like several thousands of followers from that and then he started reviewing food after he started making the food.
Speaker 4:But what he was making. Good food, what made him famous, what gave him the reviews? The reviews. All right, so that you, that's what you know for you can't get mad when people say but niggas was trying to act like he shouldn't ask for respect, so that's what you know for.
Speaker 5:You can't get mad when people say such things, but niggas was trying to act like he shouldn't ask for respect and that's why I didn't like and that's what it entailed.
Speaker 2:But, because he's at a certain level.
Speaker 4:But, time out. Pause, pause, let's keep this a bug. Okay, wake it up Because I feel like we be acting like as if people has that they need to respect, like really, how you said I got to. You know, give myself more credit. I don't feel like I put that time in yet because I haven't done Like. Yeah, he's famous for giving his views, but it's all.
Speaker 5:No, I feel like the Keefton had the city going crazy.
Speaker 4:He did, but he had the city going crazy because he felt like, whatever he gave his reviews and he felt, yes, but at the same token. But at the same token it ain't like he's done Something so powerful, but it really changed the culture. I mean you.
Speaker 2:The food culture Was saying differently, for he has positively changed A lot of people's businesses. There's a lot of folks who was about to Stop ending their businesses.
Speaker 5:I don't know. It could be staged, it could be manufactured.
Speaker 2:I don't think it is. He has. He's positively changed people's businesses. He has.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to discredit him, but I'm not going to sit here and say we got to give him respect. Okay, I'm going to sit here and say, like you know, I'm going to acknowledge you, I'm going to acknowledge that your videos are fun and cute and whatever. But I'm not going to sit here and say like you haven't done nothing really for the culture I I think he has done something. Nowadays they asking people who getting views off of shaking their ass just to be anything.
Speaker 2:That is also true. You know what I'm saying you go viral.
Speaker 5:We've seen the impact, though, but we come on. We in the city that felt it.
Speaker 4:I love Doja Cat. She's made a big career, but let's be real. Doja Cat made herself famous in the beginning of her career by being on what?
Speaker 4:TikTok, instagram beginning of her career by being on what tiktok instagram exactly? That shit is not really art. Let's keep it a buck. No, that was just her having a little fun, so but but that's what made her famous. And then next week you see her. You see her sitting at the bt awards and all these shows and stuff like that. So let's just let's be real. What happens in this, in today's time and climate, is we giving out flowers and credit to people who haven't really put that much time and work and ethic in let's be, I'm gonna do that to you keith lee I love that you don't do it, I will, but I'm not.
Speaker 4:But I'm not gonna discredit that what he's doing now, but to be honest, I don't think he's done nothing for the culture I don't know.
Speaker 2:I feel like he's gone to several different states and he's uplifted a lot of small black businesses and these businesses have come out months later and said that like they haven't, they haven't closed because of him and they've been making money because, like he keeps people's lights on and I think that is very commendable, that he's he's helping the little people is very commendable that he's.
Speaker 4:He's helping the little people. And even if, um, you don't. But what about the? People when he go back and say well, they did this, this, then the third that's in the negative. Now, now they sit here, people are like wow, well, if you don't have good customer service and you don't have good food but
Speaker 2:because, also if you consistently watch his videos, like his ratings, I feel like it's very fair, like he'll tell you if the food is good but the service was bad. He'll tell you if the service was bad but the food is good. He doesn't disparage anybody for real. He'll be like they could have. You know, I had to wait an hour and a half for this.
Speaker 4:That's crazy but if you're coming on this, you have to be honest. But let's, let's be real, okay, let's, let's, let's, okay. So this, I gotta say this right, if you coming on this Saturday, you have to be honest. But let's be real, okay, let's, let's, let's Okay. So this, I got to say this right.
Speaker 2:If you coming on this Saturday.
Speaker 4:I'm not discrediting. I'm not discrediting.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about Atlanta, exactly when he was here. I'm not discrediting, because you know for a fact that there's mad places. Black ass, hope you get a seat Outside in the sun. Hope you get a seat. You got to pay $45 for valet parking and then when you get inside, it's $22 for a drink.
Speaker 5:Then your wife going to get two of them.
Speaker 2:And then it takes 45 minutes for the food to get to your thing. Anyways, you can't hear nothing because there's music blasting all over the place. This restaurant was not opened by someone who had a passion for food. This restaurant was opened by someone who had a passion for money, and a lot of people in atlanta has have a passion for money.
Speaker 4:We have a hustle culture here I, I and I think that's the problem with you, but at the same token, those never my experiences I've heard, I've had those experiences.
Speaker 2:I haven't, so I can't, I just don't go to the to the hookah dj. No reservation places anymore if you're not on resi, you're not seeing me if you're not on open table, you're not seeing me, so. So that's how I don't.
Speaker 4:So that's what I could probably say. I can't speak that. And again. I don't want you to think I'm discrediting him for what he's doing. What I'm saying is I don't feel that I have to feel like we have to give anybody respect that you're still fresh in this industry. He's been doing it what? Two years now.
Speaker 2:He's not even really in this industry for real. He's reviewing food, he's a media personality, he's an influencer and stuff.
Speaker 4:But he's using his influence to be a food critic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, he's in the industry.
Speaker 5:Like I said, you're a C-fighter. You're slick at entertaining, yeah, so he's still doing industry.
Speaker 4:So it's the growth. I'm not discrediting him. I'm still sitting here saying I don't feel like I owe you respect I like what you do, but I still don't feel like I owe you that yet.
Speaker 5:Telling a nigga to get out his car, then that's what you're saying Get out the way.
Speaker 4:You got to go in there and really feel it out, because if you ever hear the stories, it's always saying I'm sending this person and I'm sending that person, and you go in there and-.
Speaker 2:No, he can't go in to be impartial. It's nowadays because they gonna make the food better.
Speaker 4:People still wearing masks nowadays, he could still go in there and put a mask on I wouldn't notice, I wouldn't know that was keeping, but that's because I've been following that man for like six years. Listen, he can go figure it out okay so who was we've been on this for?
Speaker 2:a while who was the let's? Let's try to run through the next couple performances really quickly all right, so I don't have them in any particular order. But shibuzi, I know everybody in the bargain tipsy. I did not know that was a black man that made that I love. Sir, let me tell you that I love that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let me tell you why I love that. It broke up all the ass shaking it gave us a little more it gave us a little something more, and then he brought out um jay kwan.
Speaker 5:It felt like a lot of black people on stage, yes, but it also, but they were doing a country.
Speaker 4:It also showed us that we can get into date, into into other not I don't say that, cause we actually started country too, and it shows that we could. We're very diverse, we're not just one lane Um. But I do like about it was, it was just, it was refreshing, it almost felt like old school. Yeah, it was really nice I remember when Ciara did her Missy Elliott and I think with Funk West Effects they did that was. It was for BET.
Speaker 5:Awards. It was the BET.
Speaker 4:Awards. They had the whole.
Speaker 5:They jumped on the wall and did the whole wall thing, oh okay, yeah, that was like Damn, it was like 2009. Yeah, and.
Speaker 4:I loved that.
Speaker 2:It was a nice break from all the ass shaking.
Speaker 4:It was a nice break.
Speaker 5:I can't remember who he got beefed. It's another black country guy who was giving him hell, was it Tony Everglow?
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 5:And it was giving him hell because in the video his music video he had a whole bunch of white people in the video and so they was making fun of him saying he trying to clean it up.
Speaker 4:So let's be transparent here. Let's go back. This guy lived in. What Nashville.
Speaker 5:I'm pretty sure, if he didn't, that's where he got his success in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so he lives in Nashville. How many? African American people that lives there and that want to be into the country music. Let's be authentic. It's going to be hard to do stuff with us.
Speaker 2:We look at country music we like oh, we ain't doing that bullshit.
Speaker 4:We turn our nose up at it, because beyonce done, made it now I still don't popular but you know, we turn our nose up to anything that we don't hear our mamas making, or we don't, or we are not accustomed to 24 7. I've always loved country music. I've always loved leon ryan I've loved him.
Speaker 5:One of the guys I went to high school with was like a big time country singer.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's crazy. I said quick All right, let's next.
Speaker 5:So then Victoria Monet. She had a pretty good dope performance.
Speaker 2:Victoria Monet ate. She always eats because she is a performer.
Speaker 4:That and what she brings back with that song. Oh my Mama, yes, what she brings back with that song is oh my mama. Yes, from the video to her performing it is she brings you back early 2000s. She brings you back. She gives you artist development Development. Yes, she does. Period. She gives you polished.
Speaker 2:She gives you like Sometimes. I think she's Beyonce, I'm not even going to hold you Sometimes.
Speaker 1:I won't go that far hold you sometimes early, early, early early, early. I won't go that far no, because she.
Speaker 2:She's because of the blonde hair too, and the stage presence is crazy. Like she gives me that.
Speaker 4:I won't go.
Speaker 2:She gives me stage presence, on the, on the levels of like she's, if she stays on the trajectory that she's on and she keeps giving us so you think she's gonna be our next beyonce? She's gonna be like the next r&b slash pop girly for sure I won't go that.
Speaker 4:Oh, I would go that far, she could be that, but I don't think she's getting me beyonce right now all right, we need to wake it up if.
Speaker 5:If I'm Glorilla, I'm pissed off For a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2:Glorilla performed. She brought out Meg and I think it was a. I think Glorilla's performance was also like a nice breakup of all the ass shaking because she came out.
Speaker 4:She ended up ass shaking her head.
Speaker 2:She did end up ass shaking at the end, but I did end up ass shaking at the end but I was like she's one of the rap girlies that do like the the bars what I do. And now I sit there and say I do love that about glow because she do come out with her little tomboy like yeah, she had her shit on, but she got a lot of reason to be mad.
Speaker 5:I got my biggest competition, sexy red, having a crazy performance which we'll get into in just a moment. Then I get superseded by meg who comes out and fucking just steals the whole show on my meg.
Speaker 2:Meg did a great job, honestly she stole the show she.
Speaker 5:If I'm pissed off, I'm talking to my label, I'm talking to everybody out of all the girls, though this is ridiculous so.
Speaker 4:So I have to say this and I have to say this gorilla is still a, gorillailla is still like a I don't want to say Up and coming artist, but she, her persona, gives the up and coming right. Yeah, she come with heat. She come with heat, she can spend. You can be the most Talented artist, okay. So it's like With Foxy and Kim right, foxy, give you bars.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But Kim had the right production Behind her.
Speaker 2:She had everything. She had everybody, she had bad boy she, she had the whole power.
Speaker 4:She had the whole the powerhouse behind her so again like um god you know, miss dope, but I think the difference they not putting that power behind her you. You can't put someone like meg, who's got a grammy, on a stage with somebody that's you. You're trying to branch her off. You got to get somebody that's gonna be, equally matched or let her be, let her outshine. That's the one thing you can't do that way you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Meg came out there. Meg has been in the industry for a minute now she's been doing it.
Speaker 2:You done this shit with Beyonce and Nicki and a bunch of people, yeah, so you, you, you done had the right training.
Speaker 4:So right now, right now glow is kind of getting that learning from that. But I felt like at a moment you can't allow somebody that's so big to come out there and steal that.
Speaker 5:I just don't want to see a fetty whopper, because that's what's gonna happen yeah, like get her burnt out for real I don't want that. So many hits and then all right, I got some.
Speaker 2:So I think I think you know who did get fetty whopped a little bit ice spice was her performance not bad I wasn't mad
Speaker 5:at it.
Speaker 2:It was a little low budget you weren't mad at it, because all she did was shake her ass. What did you expect, like she? Literally there's a. There's a new song that she put out, her new single, I think it's called fat butt there we go, the fart or something no that she performed the fart song second, but there's a new song, I think it's literally called fat butt with a ph. So she came out with these little like shorts. All she did was shake her ass.
Speaker 2:Wake it up and she looks great like her body is crazy, but like that's really all she did. You shake her ass, wake it up. And she looks great like her body is crazy, but like that's really all she did you know what?
Speaker 4:to be honest, I want somebody like I would have loved for one of the rap chicks to come out on the middle of the stage and just spit bars.
Speaker 5:Lauren hill did but glorilla did in the beginning. I was surprised she was on time. Can we wake?
Speaker 4:that up okay, why would you be surprised? Because? Lauren hill historically is never on time for anything for any of her shows. I'm gonna sit here and speak for her. She's on time when she gets there, oh well, see, that's, that's the problem.
Speaker 5:fans just like you enable this poor behavior. So you, over there at two in the morning waiting for her to say Zion, zion, I'm thinking what?
Speaker 4:Yes Y'all on a problem? No, we not.
Speaker 2:Yes, y'all on a problem.
Speaker 4:For real, we are simply saying she's on time when she gets there.
Speaker 2:At this point, when you buy a Lauryn Hill ticket then yes, let me say no, no, no. She's on time when she gets there.
Speaker 4:Name another artist whose album's still being number one rated in today's world because she did that back in 95.
Speaker 5:Name another artist who are living off one album the way she is.
Speaker 4:It's crazy, so you can wait. You can wait 30 minutes. Come on, you got to at least give me three projects.
Speaker 5:You want me to wait like that? No for what. I'm waiting for 12.
Speaker 4:There's no other female artists like.
Speaker 5:Lauren, there isn't, there isn't, so be thankful when I come. That's. That's the problem I pay for these tickets.
Speaker 4:First of all, you already got to know what she's, so let's be, let's be, let's have some consideration in 2024, if you buy a lauren hill ticket.
Speaker 2:Let's hold on. You know what's happening when she, when she shows up, she's on time. You're right now. Let's have some compassion she has been going through a lot. Yeah, she's been going through a lot for like 20 years now.
Speaker 4:And she still don't have the rights to do her music. She has to do acoustic. So that has to take a lot To get just that band, to get the right pitch, to get the right sound, just to be able to give you what y'all want Off this one album.
Speaker 2:Ain't no sound check.
Speaker 4:No, because it's not like you know, you go. She ain't on time. No, she's always on time.
Speaker 2:She's on her time okay, so um tanner adele talk about tyler's performance okay, stop for what I was gonna like she's literally next oh, my bad, you see her picture next to I just wanted to really quick say that tanner adele did a really good job. She, um, she released that buckle bunny song. It was another country performance and I thought it was cute. I like the song. It's a cute song. Tyla the mic was on.
Speaker 2:Okay, the microphone was on, I thought, okay, I'm not gonna get, we'll get into that next, because the the usher tribute we'll get into too. But tyla, her voice is amazing, I am obsessed with I love you.
Speaker 4:If you see this, I just want to let you. Girl there is.
Speaker 2:There is absolutely no way that you cannot be obsessed with this girl if you don't like her you're a hater, very simply. But like if you don't like this girl, you're a hater. Very simply put, like if you don't like this girl, you're a hater and you are insecure about yourself because she is perfect in every way possible.
Speaker 5:I was telling Farrah that when she got on stage she turned it into the CET Awards, the Color Entertainment Television Awards. She took it over. She took it over, she did.
Speaker 4:And that was another refreshing moment. Now I would sit there and say her performance reminded me of a Beyonce moment Another refreshing moment. Now I will sit there and say her performance reminded me of a Beyonce moment.
Speaker 5:It reminded me of Beyonce when Beyonce did I think honestly VMAs with Sean Paul and they did Baby Boy that's what it gave to me and they said she was hurt, she was injured.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, she had to cancel two of the shows because of it. It didn't look like she was injured or hurt. She gave it 100%.
Speaker 4:Amazing. She looked amazing and that, to me, that's what moves me to sit there and be like okay, I'm intrigued to watch more. I feel like.
Speaker 2:And her stylist. I followed her stylist. Today, you can keep talking.
Speaker 4:I have to get messy, is it?
Speaker 5:Maeve? No, it's not Maeve. I have to get messy, though who? So Noami, Noami, is that how?
Speaker 2:you say it Norm, noami, as they say, normani, normani, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she didn't perform because she was injured. Are we being critical here? Are we saying that Tyler's just a better performer? Than her Katie.
Speaker 4:Kian.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah she does she does. So let's you eat, girl.
Speaker 4:They said Normani, that's a normal thing for her to cancel shows, so let me say this the show always must go on, even if you have to do a beyonce movie, be pregnant and sit in a chair and and you sing the fuck out that's.
Speaker 2:I don't think normani can afford to keep to be canceling all the time too like we know that we don't know what she's going through, but at the same token you gotta get the fuck up there and you gotta show out.
Speaker 4:I don't care if she would have just every single time sung in the bleachers put it on the floor, yeah I felt like that was a moment like again you gotta be out there. I felt like she should have just ate it up and and go in. I don't know what her mind was going through, but at the same token, like girl, yeah, I mean I would have loved to see her because she's actually got great songs, that's what I've heard before, like no, have you not listened to her song?
Speaker 4:oh my gosh nomani got great fucking music and um she yeah, but I heard that messy tiktok shit.
Speaker 2:It's unconfirmed, but I heard that she's like been like a little bit blackballed because of industry. I hope not.
Speaker 4:I hope not things because she's actually a great she is she as she actually have you been? Have you seen? Like her videos and her her content is fucking phenomenal she also polished.
Speaker 2:It gives artists development. It does. She's great. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4:She performed where she performed, I think the vmas, I think a year or two.
Speaker 2:She ate I think she's one of those like black pop girlies that like eat like period point blank yeah she does um will smith was giving gospel okay he brought out um kurt franklin I fast forwarded through that whole shit.
Speaker 5:We gotta break it down, though, because the crowd was so crazy during his performance were they like hype? No, because, like they didn't know how to feel, right, it's because they. You're hearing some of his words. This is a new song, so nobody knows the words to the song you're just like yeah, when you're down yeah, you, you going through it and you gotta get up.
Speaker 2:You just slapped this nigga on stage doing father raps I knew you was about to say that.
Speaker 4:Why did you say?
Speaker 5:that he over there doing father raps on front of everybody. Niggas don't know. This is a gospel song.
Speaker 2:Yet until kurt franklin comes in oh, it's a whole choir they're like and all the black people look up.
Speaker 5:It makes sense now, I guess we gotta get up now because I guess we at church now my nigga, you should have just did Switch, just do Switch, or you would have had the crowd going crazy.
Speaker 4:I would have wished she would have just did Summertime.
Speaker 2:Yo, I wish she did Summertime.
Speaker 4:Summertime. That would have been a moment. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 5:It would have been a light moment.
Speaker 4:He makes so much money off that song.
Speaker 5:Give Coachella that bullshit. Next time Don't give us that.
Speaker 4:Not Coachella. But, I just feel like that would have been a moment for him. I love Will Smith and, to be honest, I'm not saying that I condone violence or whatever.
Speaker 2:You would have slapped that nigga too though, as a wife, as somebody who is somebody's wife, I would have wanted my husband to slap that nigga 100. Slap that nigga.
Speaker 4:Slap him today, to slap him down so much please pull him to the side, whatever, but I get where he was coming from I just feel like pull him to, I feel like that bitch?
Speaker 5:no, because they was friends so he was on the first prince of bel-air in a dress.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I feel like I don't care and I feel like they was friends and I also feel like, again, this was all rated for the TV so you get. This is the film industry. We all understand it. I just feel like I wish Will Smith just Continue to just be you. You don't gotta do anything To make us like you. You fucking Will Smith.
Speaker 2:We love you, we love you, we grew up with you. You, the fresh prince, we saw you emotionally cry about your daddy not coming to pick you up to take you on that damn bus ride and we thought that you really grew up without a daddy, yes, until we found out that you had your daddy the whole time.
Speaker 4:We love the fact that you gave us Uncle Phil, so you don't got to prove shit to us. If you slapped him, you slapped him. We come from that environment.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying we, I'm quick to jay down on somebody. Well, let me not steal somebody's world. I'm quick, I'm quick to like pull up and whatever. So like I felt like you ain't gotta prove that, I felt like that was more so to prove, like you know, I've changed or whatever. I'm a good guy. We don't give a because we from the same era all right.
Speaker 5:so before we get into the Usher performance, I do have to say the Usher is going to be the last part of the BET Awards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much where we can sum up. Yeah, finish up at.
Speaker 5:I just hate. I'm not a fan of the children entertainment thing, man. So, eris, I have a big issue with that.
Speaker 2:And Van Van performed. I fast forwarded through through that whole shit. I was like these, not my kids, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4:So let me tell you something about that. Right, I actually liked it. I actually liked it because, again, it was refreshing, it was something different. My coworkers were saying the same thing that they enjoyed it, I enjoyed it and it was very like cute and I felt like we're cynical, I mean. As a couple this point on I felt like, if you watched it, it was a moment to like encourage the next generation to come up there like oh, we could do something I do agree to the set that I wouldn't have kids at that.
Speaker 2:But then I had to think about it, but but think about it to encourage the next generation really quickly yeah, but but you had to let your kids be watching that in the first place. The whole, the whole award show that's what it was saying it was like. It wasn't even like in the beginning.
Speaker 4:No, I agree, that's what I said. I'm definitely an advocate with it, but I also feel that I also felt like that's not, because I said to my mom I'm like that's not a place I think I would have my kids yeah but I kind of got where they were going with it.
Speaker 5:I would show my I can see them doing an opening act before the show actually starts, like you know, when they do the red carpet. I can see them doing that I still have a problem with that because I just feel like kids, that especially that young shouldn't be on tv, but where do you see kids like her performing that?
Speaker 6:so let me tell you something about my husband, my husband, my husband specifically does not he?
Speaker 2:he doesn't fuck with any of the family vlog shit. He doesn't fuck with any of the like tiktok moms or like kid things so you can never, so you'll never do that no, I'm never.
Speaker 2:We're never gonna be a family vlog yeah you're not gonna see my kid unless you see my kid with your eyeballs, because I respect like his take on that and I feel people on the internet are creepy as fuck so I'm not gonna post my kid. So, um, that's how he feels about that, like his take on that and I feel people on the internet are creepy as fuck, so I'm not going to post my kid. So that's how he feels about that, like them being on stage and stuff like they don't have. They're not cognitively developed enough to give their consent, so it feels like they're being exploited.
Speaker 5:That's always his thing, and then they also don't know, like, why they're actually being famous. It's like you're not really famous because you're talented at what you're doing. You're famous because you're highly developed than the other people your age and when they catch up to you then you realize you're just normal. But you didn't had all the success for all these years. Now you fucked up in the head it's weird because the kid doesn't have a say in it.
Speaker 4:I like how you you put that nicely together. Yeah that's so.
Speaker 2:That's why he's always against it and I'm.
Speaker 4:It makes sense to me, so I'm with him, but the scene, but the scene was cute, I'm just oh no, it was cute.
Speaker 2:It was cute. I like van van, I like her little hair like I was.
Speaker 4:What's van van pub though?
Speaker 5:what's van van? Pub I'm just talking about her publishing also these child stars.
Speaker 2:Usually all of their money goes towards their parents. Usually take all their money like a trust or something. The the the money usually isn't like for them. When they turn 18 it's usually gone by the time they have access to it so that's also the problem especially especially like how they're doing it because it's so rogue like there isn't like a company behind.
Speaker 5:Back in the day, when you got into nickelodeon and disney, there was a company who's like oh, we're gonna make sure this amount of money goes to the kid for a trust or some shit like that when he turns 18.
Speaker 2:There's nobody stopping that now now, it's just nobody, it's just tiktok, they're just giving the parent, you know, 12, 12k or 10, you know uh and they blow in it.
Speaker 4:they blow in it and chanel in 30 minutes Okay period.
Speaker 5:All right, so let's wrap it up here with the Usher, and then we can dive into a few more topics.
Speaker 2:Okay, the Usher tribute yo. Oh my God.
Speaker 4:I hated it, I hated it, I hated it. It was so bad, and let me tell you why. Let me tell you why as much publicity Trey Songz need right now, why wouldn't we spend together and give Trey his moment? I could see. Chris.
Speaker 2:Brown, Ty Ty. I could see Chris Brown Hold on, let me finish Because he be sexually abusing women.
Speaker 5:That's why I mean there has been allegations. Rory didn't say it, he settled on more than one occasion.
Speaker 4:Okay, kiki Palmer.
Speaker 2:Leave this part out there. Kiki Palmer came out and we believe Kiki.
Speaker 4:She not gonna lie. We believe Kiki, but it's. It's been so many other people that we could have. They just did a whole bunch of female.
Speaker 2:Tank didn't perform.
Speaker 4:Tank could have been there to perform. That's what I thought.
Speaker 5:Tyrese was there.
Speaker 4:They had a bunch of non they could have did. They could have did um, um vito. Vito would have did vito because vito covered one of usher's songs and hate they said the only male that performed was child, you know who can't actually?
Speaker 5:say my problem he.
Speaker 2:I liked the, the composition of his cover of you don't have to call right. In general, I don't like childish gambino's r&b singing voice.
Speaker 2:He doesn't have an r&b singing voice, no it wasn't usher is a singer down, so why would you get a bunch of non-singing ass niggas, women, okay, but it wasn't like when to do a usher tribute. I thought, genuinely I thought that there was a problem with they, the how they set up the mic and how it was pitched. I was like this is a mic problem, because everyone has this problem, until chloe came out and she was huh, she was singing beautifully, she sounded so good during the tribute.
Speaker 4:And then I was like, oh, everybody else is just untalented. Keep in mind Khloe and them, they Yoda, when fucking like, yeah, like they shake the room when they speak.
Speaker 5:Don't talk lightly on my girl, oh Khloe.
Speaker 4:No, she shakes the fucking room. No, like Khloe Some respect on it, khloe, chloe. No, she shakes the fucking room With some respect on it, chloe. The motherfuckers is like orchestra, it's music.
Speaker 2:It's birds in the morning, yeah, but I'm saying they should have gotten people who are singer-singers, like Chloe.
Speaker 4:They could have gotten Chloe, I would have kept Chloe. They could have did both Chloe and Hailey.
Speaker 2:They could have did both of them. The only part of the tribute that I would have kept personally was Chloe, and then Tiana and Victoria even though they just kind of felt like they just did a dance tribute. It wasn't like a singing thing, but I I do think that it was very cute and it was captivating.
Speaker 4:Okay, and at that moment I felt like they should have, they should have recreated.
Speaker 5:I gotta get toxic. I gotta get toxic right here. Teyana Taylor is going to do a Candace Parker real soon. She's going to switch teams, just being honest.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? A Candace Parker? You think she's going to go lesbian?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think it's coming. I think she's giving us all the signs.
Speaker 4:First of all, I don't have a pain on that.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you how I feel about Tiana Taylor and Victoria Monet specifically being together. You know Victoria Monet and her husband are both bisexual. I have said on this show that I think.
Speaker 5:She's married.
Speaker 2:Huh, she's married.
Speaker 5:She's got a baby, daddy. Her baby daddy, yeah.
Speaker 2:And her baby daddy are both bisexual. I've said on this show that I think that, both of them being as attractive as they are and both being bisexual, that's sexy as fuck, her first of all being with tiana taylor.
Speaker 5:I already pause right, she just says the craziest things.
Speaker 4:I just think it's sexy it's sexy for her and her baby to be both bisexual and the way, the amount of attractive that they both are no, I'm not bisexual, and neither is my husband, but I just generally I'm a naturally heterosexual this is unique, that you think it is sexy though yeah, I do genuinely genuinely, but I'm one of those I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm, uh, one of those weird black women who isn't um faced by bisexuality bisexuality in men at all I wasn't before I got married, I'm not now. So, um, I like pretty boys like I. I like pretty boys like there's no way I was gonna be phased by bisexuality. Like I like niggas who wear like one earring rings like that was my dude.
Speaker 4:Don't do none of this stuff over here.
Speaker 2:No he's, he's a pretty boy, though. No, he, he. You could if his pictures, his pictures that when he got me gave me pretty boy.
Speaker 4:He gives you, he gives you, he give you light skin, but he gives you rugged black man Now. I get black man. He don't give you nothing, pretty boy.
Speaker 2:No, he don't give me pretty boy, but the pictures that got me gave me pretty boy definitely definitely okay, this is interesting she likes pretty boys. Yeah, um, that's what I'm saying, like I I was never fazed by that type in the first place, so that's why I thought that her and her husband being bisexual or sexy as fuck. Tiana also is bisexual. They gonna pull it to the other side man.
Speaker 4:Have anybody confirmed and said that they are bisexual?
Speaker 2:Yes, All of them have confirmed that they're bisexual. All of the parties have confirmed that they are bisexual.
Speaker 5:I still got more toxic opinions whenever.
Speaker 2:I just think that Victoria and Tiana giving also me, I think Tiana gives like top energy in in her.
Speaker 4:She definitely gives very rugged, very mad yes, like I would want her to take me down.
Speaker 5:She'll let a few chin hairs grow on there I would want her to strap me down.
Speaker 2:I would.
Speaker 5:I would let tiana strap me like that.
Speaker 2:That was funny and I feel like in that, like like because of that performance where this is where the conversation is going because of that performance. I feel like after that tiana strapped victoria and her baby daddy down so let me say that I feel like that's where it went and I like imagining it. I like I do. Wow, I like imagining it. So I know I'm gonna dream about it tonight, I know differently from you guys.
Speaker 4:This is not the fair. I know I'm just gonna sit here and say that this is so they. They've been booze with me. I thought we were gonna be talking about Chanel and Dior tonight. Um, oh, wow, um, I would sit there say, say, yes, I would date Tiana. Yes, as a gay guy, I would date Tiana.
Speaker 3:But she just hits all of the boxes. Let me say this about Tiana Tiana is a performer. I paid for.
Speaker 4:Roses, I paid for the show. I've seen it, yes, period. I was in the crowd when Junie told us to shut up or get out, so I was in the crowd. I told us to shut up or get out. So I was in the ground. I've met junie. Yes, I met tiana is so fly um. I still don't like the performance though I don't like that.
Speaker 4:I think I think, being that this is the male that we was, we was ushering usher. I would have loved to see tiana be um beyonce, because she would have ate yeah she would have ate. A feminine moment like that. We always give her a rough moment. Why can't we give her that soft, feminine moment? I would have ate yeah, she would have ate. A feminine moment like that. We always give her a rough moment. Why can't we give her that soft, feminine? Moment I would have loved to see Tiana flip that Kanye did?
Speaker 2:I do understand that. Do you think Faded was a soft moment? I think all of her moves were so sharp. I don't think that was necessarily a soft moment for Tiana in that video. No, I would have gave Tiana more of a softer moment than then give her something so hard.
Speaker 4:No, I mean, like he said kanye gave her, that, so you remember the music video yeah, no, I don't think that was a feminine moment no
Speaker 2:it wasn't she was naked, but all of her movements were sharp and they were masculine and they were strong and they were like rigid, rigid as fuck. So I don't, I genuinely don't think that was a feminine yeah, she wasn't moving gracefully. Slowly and softly and effeminate. Everything was like ha ha, ha ha.
Speaker 4:It wasn't, I would have loved to see Lucky Day sing for him. That would have been good, that would have been great.
Speaker 2:That would have been great.
Speaker 4:I would have loved to have Luke James up there, luke James would have ate. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Like they missed the mark because these are guys that you probably don't even have to have a big budget not saying discrediting y'all, but like you don't have to have a big budget to get them, because I think they would have loved to be a part of such a big moment for one of the guys who paved the way for them to be able to have it and one of the women who and, like this, probably gonna be one of the clips for us right here.
Speaker 5:One of the women who probably needed to not be up there because she is too obsessed with usher is kiki palmer kiki palmer did not belong on that stage it's getting it's getting.
Speaker 2:It's getting almost obsessive right now, and the gag is like it's a problem at this time and then the song you make me want to lead it when I'm with. Like you're antagonizing this man at this point like I was.
Speaker 5:I was on Spaces the other day talking about this and folks was looking at me crazy like yo. You just had an incident with this man. We don't know if it went awry or not because of this Usher shit, but he went on the internet, pissed as fuck. And you keep bringing this man into the equation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Keke Palmer. She has a very childish singing voice, don't you think? Yeah, I don't think so. It's very high-pitched.
Speaker 4:She's not like. And I'm going to tell you what I would have loved to see. Sorry, to cut you short, I would have loved to see Soraya perform with Dwayne Domo. She would have been a great performer. Because she's a good performer, she slept on. No, I understand.
Speaker 2:I think she's a really cute girl.
Speaker 5:She has slept on, but no let's stay on this real quick because we got to get on the sense with Kiki.
Speaker 6:I saw what you tried to do. No, we're not. I see what you tried to do. No, we ain't getting off of this.
Speaker 5:We're not getting off of this. When you in a relationship, we can take it off her for that. When you just in a relationship with somebody and you have a recurring party that keeps coming, you're violating them Like it's just of this shit. But wasn't she in his video? She did Well. First it started off with the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Then, you know, he went crazy, spazzed out they had whatever happened between them. Then she does the video where she just imitating him. Then you go on BET Awards.
Speaker 4:Almost what Six months after that. But she was. She was pretending to be and he, and he spazzed out and said what about her?
Speaker 5:well, he spazzed out darius. He spazzed out when she went to the show you remember that?
Speaker 4:the residency okay, so that I can't help. I can't help your insecurities one yeah, they broke up, but that's his issue I feel, you? Wasn't he abusive? Wasn't he whooping her?
Speaker 5:there's been allegations that they're going both ways allegedly, so we can't help about that like allegations going both ways. The mama said it had to do with Usher Because she said you know Usher gay, so she said that. The Kiki mama said that.
Speaker 4:We don't know where anybody is, because we don't be in nobody's bed. Oh, no, I'm just, I'm just saying what Kiki mama said. No, I'm not saying you saying that, I'm just saying that I know, I know you have a very specific opinion, being a basically in Atlanta. But no, I grew up, I grew up with the hood. Listen, let me tell you, I done, did all the hood. I don't, I don't, I don't like pretty boys like you. I like you to be rough.
Speaker 4:If you don't know how to face a car or or take out the trash, I don't want to talk to you. I'm just saying like it just but I'm and to be friends with one of the biggest artists of our time. Yeah, you gotta take advantage of that moment and I agree with you.
Speaker 5:But then we also gotta do the science on why our friendship is becoming so lucrative and benefit between each other. Our friendship should become lucrative and benefit, but we know why it is. It's because at the expense of my partner. No, or my baby daddy, the father of my child.
Speaker 2:No, it's never.
Speaker 4:That's what sparked it. All it is low-key, at the expense of him. It's not. It's at this, it's at the expense of I'm kiki palmer. I have a name of my generation, you're usher, you have, you have a connection with your generation and we both can combine it and grow to another level.
Speaker 5:She's been saying she's been in love with usher the whole time. She's been in the in the uh industry. Now we starting to see her them together.
Speaker 5:She should definitely be in love with usher, but every, every woman is in love with usher and what I'm not saying is I'm in love with usher and I don't like him like that the fact that now I've been saying I'm a fan of you for all this time, but now, when we have an interaction that goes viral, it makes a partner of mine, my, the father of my child, upset how now we keep seeing each other. Now we start being in the same rooms more often. But now, look at, it's just interesting.
Speaker 4:But look at when she was Saying it then. And so where she's now she's 30 something years old, where now, okay, I could be around you and it's not gonna look creepy that my 50 something year ass Old is around. A 37 year old woman Versus when I was around A 17 year old.
Speaker 4:That's saying it what I'm saying let's be devil's advocate about it. Like she's older, she's mature and, yes, she might sit there and say I love Usher, I'm a fan of Usher, whatever the case may be, but we all know Usher don't want her.
Speaker 2:We know that she. Yeah, we know that's not what's happening there.
Speaker 4:So again, I can't help. My partner is insecure. I'm still coming home Giving you this coochie.
Speaker 5:So At this point he's not getting that. They've been broken up. So yeah, and he's upset. He's punching air.
Speaker 4:It sounds like you have short man syndrome Because, at the end of the day, you got mad because of what she wore to a concert. She wore a see-through dress with a bodysuit that covered her whole everything that needed to be covered as respectfully as she should have. What are you mad about? This is fashion. She's in the industry. She was on a whole TV show about fashion, yeah. So what are you mad about he's upset?
Speaker 5:It was too much. He can't have the control he wants Exactly.
Speaker 4:You said it right there, so it's not about they building something off of his anger. They're trying to get her to the next level. This is Kiki palmer.
Speaker 1:she definitely gonna get a job oh for sure she gonna pay them bills. That's one thing.
Speaker 4:She's gonna get that breast milk, she's gonna keep a job. Kiki, it's kiki, keep a job oh, she told us that.
Speaker 2:She told us that. What do we have next? Because, we, we've been on the the beat. Yeah, I think that's pretty much most everything I have for it, uh.
Speaker 5:So I know this. Uh, it's probably not too much, y'all wheelhouse it's a little bit into the sports realm. So y'all, I know, y'all know who lebron james is yes definitely so.
Speaker 5:His son just recently signed with the lakers. They were drafted him the 55th pick. He signed a contract which is gonna be three years guarantee, which a lot of people are trying to act like. It's this crazy concept. Some players do get this when they're highly touted, when the guy that's the team really wants to develop them, they'll get a deal like this. So he gets three years guarantee and essentially, the entire world is upset about regarding his nepotism. So I want to get into that first, but before we do so, I don't think we discussed this yet. I have heavily implied this, but do y'all believe that lebron james is the greatest black man in recorded history? The greatest black is the greatest black man in recorded history. The greatest black man, the greatest black man recorded history my daddy is the greatest black man in history.
Speaker 5:All right take out the emotional caveats.
Speaker 4:Let's just go from feats my daddy is still gonna be the greatest motherfucking black man. Okay, the second.
Speaker 5:Let's go second then okay, we'll go that michael jackson okay, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think LeBron is that at all. I think there are black men who have done more for their local communities. That'll probably be better. That title should go to.
Speaker 5:I mean it's, I don't know. Man, I understand the whole local community, One of the greatest basketball players.
Speaker 2:One of the greatest legends in the NBA.
Speaker 5:All time leading scorer. Never had a scandal In regards to someone going out and saying he stepped out of line. That's tough in and of itself. Or he's using his money, but then that should be commended as well.
Speaker 2:Because a lot of people can't do that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, a lot of people don't or they can't.
Speaker 4:No side baby mamas, then let's say greatest athlete.
Speaker 5:I want to put him in the greatest black man category Because I want to have a conversation.
Speaker 2:If you don't feel it, tell me.
Speaker 5:Where do you think he falls short on?
Speaker 4:The connection of being a human.
Speaker 5:Okay, I need some more. Let me explain.
Speaker 4:When you that polished and there's nothing to talk about. We don't know how we can connect with you. It's almost like what people say with Beyonce I love Beyonce, but at the end of the day, we don't know how we could connect with you.
Speaker 4:It's almost like what people say with Beyonce. I love Beyonce, but at the end of the day, we don't feel like there's a true connection with you. You too, squeaky clean. How the fuck can we feel like this? Like at some point, like I want to hear you cuss, I want to hear you do something. It's not even the best part, but it's like when he had the whole um court side caring thing, it was like, okay, that was a I guess, kind of a scandal, shout out to the fact that the guy that was arguing was my ex-client but uh but um the it's like.
Speaker 4:You're not relatable. We don't see your pain, we don't see your happiness. We don't see. We just know that you're just a robot and it's just like are you really human?
Speaker 5:I would argue a little bit. I'll give some pushback because he does do the profanity and does give a little bit more on his personal platforms in regards to that. So I do feel like he is irrelatable.
Speaker 4:But on his personal platform. What was so memorable? That you sat there and said that oh, that's worldwide. Remember about LeBron James besides basketball, and Rihanna and Glorilla.
Speaker 5:He was telling a story of when he went to transfer to his high school for the first time and he has basically said how he was not used to being around that many white people in his entire life. He was like where all these crackers come from, like he didn't even know white people existed in these numbers because of where he grew up at. So I felt that because I came from a DMV, I came from Haiti, so to see somebody that had that experience, when I came down here, I never went to school with that. I went to school with two white people my whole life.
Speaker 4:So then that sounds more of a relatable situation. Yeah, that was relatable to me too, but it's not worldwide relatable, Like I feel like LeBron just keeps Taco Tuesday's not relatable.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I do. I don't think rich people are relatable yeah, no, they are because you got I think he had people.
Speaker 4:Let me tell you black rich people are. Could I learn that from sitting there watching steve harvey show steve harvey video with him and margie because? I was like these because hold up is relatable I felt no, let me tell you why.
Speaker 4:I was like these bitches eat off of fucking china, where them bitches you got the same Healthy place we do. They do the same Hood rat shit that we do they, just they're at a bigger budget. They're relatable to us. I just feel like that's relatable To your story but not to the mass. I feel like he's not relatable To the mass.
Speaker 5:I feel like also. Here's another instance I'm a nigga who, when I hear a song, I act like I know the words and be rapping it out loud. Lebron does that too. And don't know the words Nigga wrong. The whole time I felt that Now you can't act like that's not relatable.
Speaker 4:Okay, maybe I'm overlooking things. Maybe you're teaching me something different. I feel like when you said that hasn't been caught in a scandal, hasn't been doing this, don't do nothing. He's squeaky, he don't do nothing, he just he don't do too much. Then where's the relation? I think we just put him on the pedestal because he's LeBron James and he's good at his job. He's phenomenal at his job, Best basketball player, absolutely Best black man.
Speaker 5:I basketball player absolutely best black man I can't. He wore the trayvon hoodie. He wore the trayvon hoodie. Wore the t-shirts he had to school y'all remember okay.
Speaker 4:So then I'm gonna say and say I don't know too much, so I'm wrong. I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 2:I feel like granted them kids aren't passing right now, but we don't we don't know too much about lebron, we don't follow him, we don't be watching his stories and stuff like that, so like there's nothing but I feel like that even goes even more to question.
Speaker 5:Just you ought to be able to say that, because for you to be the greatest black man, you have to transcend more than just your sport and things that I don't even know him for basketball.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't even know how many points.
Speaker 5:I can't even lie to tell you I know how many points he made no, I think that that opens up a lot too with it, but I think also another I know him for basketball and I know him for being with a black woman.
Speaker 4:Now that.
Speaker 2:I would sit there and say phenomenal. Phenomenal. Been with her for mad long.
Speaker 4:I feel like so, you're right. So, lebron, excuse me, I apologize. You are a phenomenal black.
Speaker 5:Talk about it, king.
Speaker 4:No, you are a phenomenal black athlete.
Speaker 5:He is King James, absolutely.
Speaker 4:You are a phenomenal black athlete in this industry, the best black athlete in the industry. But because him and Savannah I love the fact that he's been with her since what? High school. Yeah high school sweethearts. You married her. You gave her the platform. I love the fact that, because it's hard to see black men that make it and they still be with black women. That irks me and it's sad because I sit there and say it's weird, because I don't mind to see a black woman with a white man. That's hate Huh.
Speaker 5:That's hate.
Speaker 4:Let me tell you why.
Speaker 2:Okay, you said you hate to see a black woman with a white man.
Speaker 4:I hate to see a black man with a white woman.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, and you don't mind the latter.
Speaker 5:The reverse.
Speaker 4:Wake it. The latter, the reverse, wake it up. Explain me neither, because if not, I feel like it's hate. How can I say this without killing myself in a long run? Um?
Speaker 2:black men are generally desirable by everybody, and black women aren't. So if you're chosen as a black woman by anybody, then I'm happy for you as a black. No, it's not that that's what I feel like.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no it's not that, from seeing what a lot of black women go through being like I work in. I work in retail, right. So I worked in a luxury retail store that sold women's dresses and to see the shit that black women would go through to be with a man and they fight. Black women fight to be with black men and at some point they give up to be with black men to simply say, hey, you know what? It's not working for me. I've tried every black man I could possibly think of. Either she's too dark or she's not dark enough, or she's too dark or she's never.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she's, she's not pretty. Or the red, the red, red bones are the right bones, or she got more gums, it's everything. She got more gums, it's everything.
Speaker 2:She got more gums.
Speaker 4:I hear shit like that.
Speaker 5:But it was a woman that came to my head as soon as you said that.
Speaker 4:And you probably passed her up because you was like nah, she was gummy. Yeah, she was gummy, or you get the. She's too confrontational and I hate to say that, but black women put so much the thing is and this is this. I'm sorry I got to say this now because you got me feeling some type of way. Wake it up, go ahead.
Speaker 4:I feel that black women take so much of a beating from our men.
Speaker 4:My mother was beat by my sister's father and my father, to the point, my father put a gun to my mother's head and he was going to kill us both. So I feel that black women take so much of a beating and I think that when a black woman go to uh, any other race, they just feel that's something that he's just he's doing a little bit more, he's showing me more compassion where she fought so long to be with black men and black men just don't appreciate our black women and I think that's fucked up. And I think the problem I also see is that when I see black men with white women, I feel like they just gave up and just like, oh, I'm going to go to the white women because they better, because they not confrontational. Black women fight for y'all more than anything. Everyone in my stores that I worked with in luxury retail I always tell them when it's a black woman that's a manager, always tell them when it's a black woman, that's a manager.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna always work hard, fairer. Fairer work than beep it. Okay, we'll beep that part, um, but she worked in the store, right, her manager. They didn't want to pay me. That bitch made sure I got fucking paid. Every black store, a black man, a black manager, was a woman. Let me say this not just as a black man, just a black manager was a woman. Let me say this Not just as a black man, just a black. As a woman fought for me. I always fight for black women because I feel like black men put so much on them and they hurt them the worst. They are the least respected in this fucking world and I just think it's different to see them with a white man. A white man might cherish her a little bit differently or a little bit better.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying. It's very I like what you were getting at, because I think it's going to go into this. I forgot to put this onto the docket, but did y'all see the thing about going on with Columbus Short?
Speaker 2:no, I didn't know anything was going on with columbus short all right, this is so good, I need another one before I go.
Speaker 5:I'll make you another one, all right so this kind of proved goes to your point, because I don't know if y'all remember about columbus short. He did have a little incident going on with his wife, that's what kind of got him kicked off a scandal. But he was kind of talking to what y'all was talking about with the, the black women, the white women.
Speaker 4:So let's see, let's let him add more into the gender wars no, like what is the difference between being with black women and being?
Speaker 12:with he comes into the home. They're not nigga what you talking about. Unless you've given me this, doing this, doing that, there is no, there's no respect of the man, the black man, in that, by a black women, by black women and I'm not black women, do not be mad at me cook girl you don't even know how to cook.
Speaker 12:So you know I'm saying I'm not saying that's all black women and I'm not black women, do not be mad at me. Cook, girl. You don't even know how to cook. So you know I'm saying I'm not saying that's all. Black women can side that asian, korean, japanese, that, that. That that other side is where you know, culturally those women were not, um, those women were taught to hold down. But it's more than subservience. Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 12:I know you know how to cuss a man out thoroughly, but as soon as you're cussing him out, you're still making dinner, you're still washing his clothes, you're still cleaning the house and you're not doing that with. You know, this is my job, that's just what you were trained to do and I think that kind of training. You know how you want to ride in a Bugatti, how you want to go on a yacht, but you don't know how to wash your own clothes, you don't know how to vacuum, you don't know how to put. You know what I'm saying Boom, boom, boom. Hey, who going to put the money on your books? I'll put the money on yours. You can go to jail, take your. Did he go to jail because of another?
Speaker 5:woman. That's what I said. He had a situation with domestic violence. That's when he lost the scandal.
Speaker 4:So pause, let's pause.
Speaker 4:Stop this bullshit right here. Let's start this right here, right. First of all, motherfucker, if I'm riding a Bugatti, I'm not washing nobody's fucking clothes and we have a maid and we have a service, because the fact is we have the finance to do it. But, yes, I get it. Yes, black women do give you a little bit more attitude, but you know why she give you that attitude. She give you that attitude because she pushing you, she know the potential of you, because she be the first one to hold you down and she, not the one who's really calling you and let you down and choking the fuck out of her to send you to jail and even when you choking the fuck, are not there for you, because she understand what it is to take a black, to take away a black man from his home.
Speaker 2:You get what I'm saying the white woman, the asian woman, the everything else woman. She gonna jump ship as soon as shit goes sour. There ain't no more money, and I don't think it's a compliment, really, that black women will endure more. That's a completely different conversation. Honestly, I think that's a completely different conversation but. I I black women. Black women do endure more, but is that a good thing and why that happens? I think it's a completely different conversation so that I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we have enough time for that, because that's a completely okay, that's a different conversation. Yeah, well, but black, I do think black women period.
Speaker 4:I do think the point is the that black women do endure more so like but the thing is this, the thing right, and I'm gonna have to say this jonathan major learned his message. I learned his lesson right let's just say that Jonathan Major learned his lesson, for the fact being he had an I don't, because I do work with other nationalities. I don't want them to think that I'm discrediting him, but what I'm going to say is that what he learned that?
Speaker 2:No, they definitely taught him a lesson.
Speaker 4:It is Because my thing is this what I've learned is that we come from different worlds and the process is coming from a different world. We understand shit differently. Where we can use the n-word with each other and we understand the tone and the malice of how we use it. Where, when they use it, we can't understand where it's coming from. But we understand, understand certain things. So you two always have that same thing in common because y'all understand. Watching martin and learning, you know the shenanigans and the um, what's going on? Oh okay, learning shenanigans and learning certain things. Or watching bernie mack or watching even rock, you know, I'm saying we've seen stuff and we. That's our culture, so we have to understand it. When you date somebody outside of our race, they're never going to understand our culture to fully expect, because they don't live it.
Speaker 4:It's a different experience, so we understand I'm never going to put you in jail. I might give you these hands, but I'm never putting you in jail for the fact being you know what I'm saying. I understand what it is to put another black man in jail or do stuff to them.
Speaker 5:They don't understand that because they don't come from that world and I think that's kind of a large standpoint of what happens, because we all get brushed with this suave of a certain type of black person and that can be like what we know majority. A lot of poverty and things of that nature can be put into that. I think, just as somebody who didn't come from that, I do see where the word that he used was wrong. He used a lot of wrong words. Whenever he's like respect, it's not respect that you want, you want reverence.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it isn't uh the fact of you know her doing something because you want, you want her to have a duty like those are those subservience there's a to a degree when you especially as somebody who's reached his peaks, and things of that nature which is an understandable request. Peaks is a crazy term. That is his peak. He's reached high peaks. He literally was on a syndicated show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't for his own situation. At this point, though, the peaks that he was at is no longer peaking. He stomped the yard.
Speaker 4:The peaks are no longer peaking. I can't so listen. One thing about it he stomped the yard. We can't take away his accolades and we can't take okay, but we can, because he's not getting jobs, no more, because he was beating on women. But we cannot sit there and say that he was I'm gonna take women beaters accolades away, period point blank.
Speaker 2:Fuck your accolades, nigga.
Speaker 5:Stop putting your hands on women, I'm more discussing the sentiment of what he's saying rather than the actual person saying it yes, I just understand where there is a degree, where, if you don't, have uh, we have a shortage of positive male mask.
Speaker 4:You know role models definitely, and so that's why we still love denzel washington. Now back to your statement earlier. Sorry to cut you short no, that's a great black man who me?
Speaker 5:no that, yeah, he's, that's an example he's up there, I'm not. I'm not like he's not.
Speaker 2:He's been with the same black woman for mad, yes, but what I'm just saying is I can understand where you'm not going to act like he's not. He's up there. He's been with the same black woman for mad long Mad yes.
Speaker 5:Mad long, but what I'm just saying is I can understand where you're not going to get that desired reverence when you look at other groups, because they do have a longer history of being more stable in certain environments. They have more positive examples than we do of us.
Speaker 4:So no, what I want black men to stop doing Is discrediting our own and I mean Our own entirely Especially our own black women. We came Tupac said it. How can we discredit our own women? When we came from a black woman, we quit to this. You don't never hear a Caucasian man Discrediting Caucasian women. I'll disagree with you on that. I haven't, I haven't, I just posted and let me say this you don't hear the magnitude of multiple caucasian so it might be one or two, but you don't hear magnet a magnitude.
Speaker 5:There was a photo of this white girl going around and there was a bunch of white guys joking because they were saying she fucked the whole sec, which sec is a college football uh conference, which a lot of those guys go into the nfl. They literally screenshotted her picture over the will chamberlain 100, like saying she had 100 bodies. So to say that they don't treat their woman in a negative demeanor it's, it's. That's just not a true factor no, really quick.
Speaker 2:I think that we don't. We are black, our algorithms are black. We don't engage with white content that much like culturally, so we're not gonna see what white men are saying about their white women, because we not we not following straight white men we don't care what straight we did a video about this woman
Speaker 4:who all?
Speaker 5:she did was she had a tight shirt on and she baked a cake a cake that you end up making oh yeah, that was a good ass cake a tight shirt on and everybody was just calling her trash, calling her a trad thot, all sorts of shit it happens in their community. It's just, it doesn't get the light that yeah, they were like this bitch is baking a cake with a tight shirt on.
Speaker 2:She's a pick me, she wants. She just wants the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah they were shitting on her crazy and then I whole time I was like that recipe looked good and I made the cake and it was good as fuck. I was like y'all missed the point of this video. This is a delicious cake, but um yeah, I think, uh, we don't see it. But white men do it, asian men do it, indian men do it. All of the other men.
Speaker 4:Men are trash I just think it's unfair to do it in general and I feel like especially for black women. I feel like they're already at the bottom of the toe.
Speaker 2:Y'all get paid I think black men should be more mindful yes, because of the position for everything.
Speaker 5:I'm glad because of the position of black women let's get into this next topic, then we can wrap it up here.
Speaker 2:It's been a great show so far it's been so good, it's been really fun. So ty is definitely.
Speaker 4:Every time we have an award show coming up, ty is gonna come with us, we're gonna talk about All of the things, and when I get this Three million dollar mansion In LA, we gonna do the show out there. Okay, ooh, period.
Speaker 5:So Miracle Watts, basically she was discussing Her future plans for marriage and you know she sees that In her life she has been with Tyler Lepley.
Speaker 1:For about three years they also have. So this is what she had to say. Have a question y'all think is disrespectful for a man not to marry a woman after being with her for a certain amount of years, if they both agree that you know, marriage is something that they want.
Speaker 2:I do, I do, I do and, yeah, we're coming up on it. So let me stop that. I wanted to say something first. I think, as a as a woman, you kind of need to have more koof about um shit like that. Y'all been together for three years.
Speaker 2:I even though even though and have a child, even though I got married very quickly, I think three years is like rational ish of a time for a man to like decide like that he. I think four, four and a half years starts being too much, also bringing this to the public is kind of like you don't need to do this, you need to speak to your man about it. Putting pressure on him publicly is, I don't think that's going to do, probably not going to do her any good.
Speaker 4:So let me say this right. I asked your husband earlier. I said how long did it take y'all to get married? He said six months. I said I firmly agree, men. It don't take men long to know that's the woman that they want to marry.
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 4:So my thing it goes back to what society has instillated in our black men. We will impregnate a woman, we will live with a woman, we will be her baby daddy for so many years, but we will never get married to her. Why can't we make the decision to do all of this within the the first two, three months, but can't decide to sit there and say you know what, you're the one I want to spend the rest of my life with. Men know what they want for the rest of their life they know within the first six months.
Speaker 5:Well, there's an old adage of why buy the cow when the milk is free? So I mean, like you just said, you put a cow because no, no, no because no.
Speaker 4:You you know why you bought that cow because you knew that was the cow that you want to take home and you want to continue to milk for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:I don't know why he's saying that. Because, like, technically, I did everything wrong Right, like on paper, like we had sex immediately. I was cooking for this man. Within the first week I was, I went into his home, I immediately took over, I I was cleaning shit, I reorganized everything, I made my presence known like I did everything, like he knew exactly what the milk was before he bought the cow.
Speaker 5:so I don't know why he's saying that no, because there's a whole bunch of things that we still didn't act. We didn't have children, we didn't do a whole bunch of other things well, yeah which I would.
Speaker 2:That was never gonna happen. That's okay, that was never gonna happen.
Speaker 4:You was never gonna impregnate me before putting a ring on my finger if you, if you fucked him the first night, that means you just knew what the fuck you wanted.
Speaker 2:That's just what uh, what uh it was the first night if you did. It wasn't the first night we didn't fuck on our first date.
Speaker 5:You spent the night the first night? No, I didn't. We went to the second night, yeah it was the second date give me some credit.
Speaker 4:But either way, even if it goes, it's the simple fact of. I'm just being real.
Speaker 4:It's the simple fact of he knew that you was the one it don't make a difference if I'll make it, you fuck this is what's the guy. What's the rap song? He was like um music. So I don't care if you fuck me the first night or 30 days later or whatever. If I know, if it's you, it's you. So at the end of the day, it don't take me three years to figure that out, and also, too, you got to look at it like a business standpoint.
Speaker 5:What does he get? All he does is lose in that situation with marion or her, because she's already shown that she's a woman who's going to do what she chooses to do in most aspects bitch drake got a song about you that's what I'm saying, like she's showing I gotta, I gotta definitely no.
Speaker 4:So you can't, you can't judge it. Well, I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm talking about what he could potentially be thinking about in the situation he can't lose because at the end of the day, you you still got a baby by her right yeah, yeah, but just think about this, hold on hold on hold on depending on the state they live in.
Speaker 2:He will lose. If they live in la, then she's gonna.
Speaker 5:She's gonna get half and so I'm giving you half and then also potentially alimony now. Yeah, so now, at this time, right now, it's just child support okay, but just so that.
Speaker 4:Mirror her ass right here in atlanta. Buy a house and mirror her right here in atlanta. He got enough money.
Speaker 5:He got enough money I can see in a world where his persona and the way that his trajectory is going, even if they don't be with each other, he can still go upward and to the point where it's like she's kind of missed her mark and what he needs her for, and he's probably not going to marry her, like if we, being we, keeping it honest I don't think I think he is.
Speaker 4:I think he is because let me tell you why because there's gotta be a bag behind it no, I don't think so, because tron no the babe, I think she benefits off of something like that you think she benefits off of him?
Speaker 2:yeah, because she was on p valley. Because of him she gets a little more validation she got a roll off of p valley after they started dating. He was already on p valley that's true, but that was her first major that was on hbo money. You think miracle watts would have been on hbo if it wasn't for her nigga, let me tell you.
Speaker 4:But let me tell you this, let's just be real right, it was a stripper show, though that body is banging but still but I think also, at the end of the day, I think he genuinely loves her he does, and I think, and I think he will marry her. It's gonna be at his time. I don't think it's gonna be at her time, but I also think, the fact being, I hope he does.
Speaker 4:I think the fact that it is that again, they needed each other. I'm gonna be honest, they needed each other because, just as much as he valid her, validate her, and she does in her world, she validates him in all in another world not, but in in another world, so our world, but in another world, so they. You know, she gave the confirmation that can't no gay nigga like me gave him, because we all thought we all had a chance we work for Tyler Perry first.
Speaker 4:We never know we don't, but she validated it's thinner than what we thought it was. We all knew that he worked for Tyler Perry. Tyler's a toddler, but you know, on the show he was like, oh shit, he worked with tyler on that show.
Speaker 5:We think he might be touched it's a flip of the coin, you know.
Speaker 4:You never know not saying that anybody that works with tyler period could be touched. I'm just saying that on the show we thought he could be touched. That's what I'm saying. So I want to be. I want to be clear. On the show he looked like he could have been touched. We thought he was cute enough yo being touched is a wild terminology.
Speaker 5:that's a wild terminology, y'all what you mean, that's a wild terminology.
Speaker 4:Hey man, don't you think you look like you could be?
Speaker 5:touched in six.
Speaker 4:You could be touched in multiple ways.
Speaker 5:I only heard street niggas use that before. I've never seen it like that before. Am I saying it wrong. No, I think it's just like it's actually more sinister the way you're using it. Oh wow, it's the alcohol more sinister the way you're using it.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, okay, it's the alcohol, I think she put something in here.
Speaker 5:I literally put nothing in there, all right. Well, I think it was a really good show. Man, I really have so much fun guys.
Speaker 2:We cannot wait until the next award show because ty is gonna join us again for the next one it's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 4:It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be real, real fun. I don't know which one. The next one is the amaze. Okay, yeah, oh, that's gonna be real real fun.
Speaker 2:I don't know which one. The next one is vmas. Okay, yeah, oh, that's gonna be really you know the vmas actually gives the girls show out for the vmas definitely bigger budget bigger budget, no, no.
Speaker 4:What it is is that they have a different dress code requirement. Dress code it's all about the requirement whoever?
Speaker 2:you need to tighten it up.
Speaker 4:So let me tell you, deborah johnson was deborah lee. Deborah lee had a different requirement and she had a different standard. They couldn't come with all that she. So I remember they were speaking about when she was um, when she was running the show, and I remember that they were saying people were coming up showing a certain way and she was at the, the um, the entrance of the carpet, turning people away, like like you know how you were in high school.
Speaker 2:That's what they need to start doing.
Speaker 4:You know when you were in high school and your teacher, your principal, would be like your skirt too short, you got to turn around, or you can't wear your pants back. That's what she was doing, so the requirement was different. Yeah, you could still be a little urban, but you had to be clean with it.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. There's a way to do it, but yeah, I cannot wait until the vmas ty is officially a friend of the show absolutely.
Speaker 4:I've been wanting to come on this show for a minute. I've been like farrah. Can you please put me on the show?
Speaker 2:I'll be like hey girl like okay, well, you're gonna give me my chance we wanted to like wait a little bit, but we monetize now, and now we have a base that knows us, so now we can bring people in.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's what we wanted.
Speaker 5:I love it here.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 5:All right. Well, let's finish up here, man, life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family.
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