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Talk FNF tv Season 1 Episode 55

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Join us as we challenge the notion: Are interview fees really worth it? We ignite the conversation with a heated debate on the monetary value of media personalities, leading into a heartfelt discussion on the importance of representation and integrity within the black community. Shifting gears, we take a light-hearted look at the beauty and athleticism of female track athletes, ranking them based on their physical appearance and celebrating their impressive genetic makeup and physical conditioning.

Ever wondered about the dynamics of being the lone female voice in a male-dominated podcast? Listen to our deep dive into Melyssa Ford's unique challenges as the only woman among a group of men, exploring the need for relatability and vulnerability in podcasting. We also share insights into the evolving friendship and content of the "Pour Minds" podcast, should Lex part ways and find her place in media. Plus, we discuss the seismic shifts in the media industry, from Sirius XM's strategic decisions to the broader potential implications of censorship and technology.

Finally, we tackle some of the most intriguing issues in the entertainment industry: the ethics of charity content creation, the complexities of international extradition laws, and the puzzling landscape of media influence. We also touch on lighter topics, such as humorous retail experiences and relationship dynamics among celebrities. With a mix of serious discussions and entertaining anecdotes, this episode guarantees a rollercoaster of insights and laughs. Don’t miss our engaging conversation on Talk FNF tv!

Speaker 1:

You can't say that that bitch. Okay, that's getting beeped out. Nobody on Earth is going to pay you $40,000 for an interview. You get $100,000 to $300,000 on any platform he interviews on. This guy is really delusional.

Speaker 5:

Now he can say that, though, like I don't want to be sitting like I'm on Vlad's side every time. You are always on Vlad's side. That's crazy. That's why I said that you're a traitor to the black race.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. I think that this is just an embarrassing. Zeus should be ashamed of himself. King buck, I don't know how many times on this show that I need to come here and say with my whole entire chest you are bad for the black community in a for the listening experience.

Speaker 5:

When it comes to the two of them, they don't joke, they, their back and forth is not like this my and we getting, we, we having a glass of wine on the couch so there's no infighting?

Speaker 1:

is what you're saying? There doesn't seem like there's any hate in between the two girls, like there doesn't seem like some jealousy not at all but what I think is this I think we're coming into and this is my theory, I think this is gonna happen with trump or kamala, but we're going to a nationalization of our media that I would like them, but if I was listening from jump, because damaris was there from jump right for the most part yeah, so like I probably would have enjoyed it more if I had given it a chance.

Speaker 1:

I really like her, yeah she does a lot what you said she's funny.

Speaker 5:

I think the stories she tells are hilarious. She's young, she be outside like I like that a lot and then, like I don't know, I think she was a really good choice because she's just interesting, like she's bi. You know I'm I'm obsessed with bisexuals absurd. Come take your best buddy spot.

Speaker 1:

I'm the same person.

Speaker 5:

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Speaker 1:

So on the last show we discussed that you know we were going to bring up some of the track girlies. Yeah, in a more positive way. So we said that we were going to bring up some of the track girlies in a more positive way. So we said that we was going to do the top five or ten best butts in track.

Speaker 5:

We were.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 5:

We were going to do the top five best face cards in track.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was looking at the wrong thing.

Speaker 5:

How did you think that the butts was a more positive manner?

Speaker 1:

I thought, since you did your little list back, you know back yonder that I thought it was only appropriate that. You know we do a butt list, so now I feel like a pig, thank you I mean we can, we can.

Speaker 5:

You can still rate the butts, I guess, but I have the I mean it feels inappropriate now if you're just going off the face card uh, all right, we can do the face card list real quick because, honestly, the the track girls are gorgeous and, like I said, the track girls in my high school were absolutely gorgeous too. So we'll start with um anna cockrell.

Speaker 1:

Look at her face oh yeah, I seen a lot of people's going crazy.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, look at that that jawline is absolutely crazy. And then this is not even in order, because all of them are absolutely gorgeous, but right, right up next is no, I'm not gonna do it. You go, keep going her name is adeleke rossidak okay, you eating them name I don't know, but look at her. Okay, beautiful, absolutely gorgeous. Okay. And then next, her name is alexis holmes okay, yeah, she.

Speaker 1:

She didn't make my list either.

Speaker 5:

She wasn't on the butt side elite like wait, but the body, all of the bodies, are bodying because they do track like there's no way yeah, I mean, but there was.

Speaker 1:

There was one video that pretty much had like my top five, because I went through was a reddit. It was a reddit basically like dedicated to this do you remember your like number one? I didn't remember. I couldn't catch her names. It was hard to the way that the camera was angled. You couldn't really see the names and you know, it was more focused on something a little more pronounced was that four or three I think that was three that was three.

Speaker 5:

Okay, so number four is gonna be tara davis, woodley woodhall. So this is let me show you what she looked like. I'm about to pull up a picture of her hold on I'm trying to find a good picture of her.

Speaker 1:

The bone structure okay, I like it.

Speaker 5:

The abs are going crazy like the bodies on all of these women are absolutely insane, because they do track like there's no, but no, that's genetic though like that's to have the abs, that form and look like that you was one of them.

Speaker 1:

Ones like that's not something that just you can pull out of your hat okay, and then the next on my list is gonna be ebony morrison okay, yeah like come on what is happening with these track girlies?

Speaker 5:

they are gorgeous like bodies, period, like just.

Speaker 1:

It's insane no, I mean, it's funny speaking of that track people.

Speaker 1:

Lola jones, you remember her no, I don't remember her she was like a track olympian, like back in the day, and like one of her claims to fame after her olympic round, because I think she may have, I think she may have got bronze one time, but most of her claim to fame was her Olympic round, because I think she may have got bronze one time but most of her claim to fame was basically her being a virgin throughout her whole tenure. She's like 42 now.

Speaker 5:

That's why she fast.

Speaker 1:

She ain't had nothing in there holding her up.

Speaker 5:

Nothing in there messing her up.

Speaker 1:

I just think that she's one of those examples of when you hold the stock for too long, because once you hold it for 42 years, it ain't what you think it's going to be. Now it's an inconvenience. You know what I'm saying? Like now, your inexperience is an inconvenience at this time. Like I don't think that it's sought after the same way if she was like 22.

Speaker 5:

Like 22-year-old virgin is a lot different than a 42-year-old virgin. Definitely virgin is a lot different than a 42 year old virgin. Definitely. They made a whole movie about 40 year old virgin and it wasn't like in a positive light at all.

Speaker 1:

They were like let's get this out of here, like, but there's a guy though it's different yeah, but still with her, though I've heard she's not a nice lady like I know some of her tweets and like her social media postings have like had people rub people the wrong way. But I've heard like in person, like too, she's like not a very nice girl. She's like one of those mixed girls with a white mom, you know how they are. Yeah, but that doesn't like that transitions man, like when you have a white mom, you think you're white mean pussy gonna get beat up too.

Speaker 1:

It has to be something else no, because if you, if you focused and determined on something like she was, and she just was like no, I'm not letting it fly.

Speaker 5:

Men have low standards. Maybe her standards are just too high.

Speaker 1:

I think it has part to do with some religious stuff too, so she has to get married.

Speaker 5:

It has to. It has to be something else.

Speaker 1:

Or she could just be a witch.

Speaker 5:

She's going to be a sacrifice. Do you remember the last time I saw you and you asked me if I thought you were a good person deep down?

Speaker 4:

Do I remember that? Yeah, vaguely.

Speaker 5:

You really caught me off guard. I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 4:

Well, do you think I'm a good person deep down?

Speaker 5:

That's the thing I don't think I believe in. Deep down, I kind of think all you are is just the things that you do.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's depressing. Tell me what I've been through. You don't love this genre of music.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay okay. They can't.

Speaker 4:

Whoa, they can't. Don't be hating on the kid.

Speaker 1:

This was the part of the song when, like they let it ride, the DJ ride you drunk as fuck and you just like. When this next part came on, you was about to cry when you started performing it in the club. That's how messed up you was. You was just like this was a good summer when this was out it was.

Speaker 4:

This was my favorite part of this. In my head, man slumped over like a dead man, red and black, by my bread man. I'm the answer never questioned. Ladies, this was my favorite part of this. Right here, I do this often. Don't do no, talking my options right when I walk in. Jump on them. Jardines, I'm balling money, jumping like I'm davis from new A bitch. I'm hiding I don't miss nothing For practice. This shit just happens. Now. Y'all can't stand it. I have it. I never pass it. I wear my magic.

Speaker 1:

I can't help it, man, and I apologize. I'm from the suburbs, baby. I am I can't help it, I don't know what to tell you. Hey, I'm sorry, tell him One time what, what Truth, truth.

Speaker 4:

I guess I could take one too. I don't think I could take much more. It ain't right if I fake what's true. I looked in the mirror and saw your ass. I probably would hate you too. I got pedal to metal. This car go fast Like when I make that road. I ain't what you make this money, but let me give you an estimate.

Speaker 1:

If I have much to lose, I have a lot of money.

Speaker 3:

I probably read Tyree Everett's top and it's on my chest, I'm doubling down. It is Since. I hear you was moving like a half like busting that down this is that, busting half down Nickel and dime and a half, well damn.

Speaker 1:

Did you realize?

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

I can help you save time, money, help you and your loved ones see the world Is everything about those artists that I played, anything that they had in common.

Speaker 5:

First of all, I didn't even know the first one that you played. The second one was white, and then the the. The last one was black. Were they getting more, increasingly black? They were all white the last one wasn't fucking a future song no, that was the end guy that that was riding, though, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:

It was I'm so mad.

Speaker 5:

She was hard. I told you I'm so upset.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying, bro. They was hating on these white boys.

Speaker 5:

That's what Tyler was talking about. I like Elvis Presley.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. I like Elvis Presley. I like a white boy doing nigga shit. You're also a traitor to the blacks what I'm like the biggest supporter of the blacks but that's exactly what tyler was talking about, because he was like they literally just try to sound like that shit was hard. He got some other slaps too. He very obviously young and got slapped is trying to sound like future I you know all I gotta say young, young and got slaps yo and them shits, them shits rotting I feel like I've heard that out before you probably have, because that shit, he's from atlanta, he's a white boy from atlanta getting crazy on the mic.

Speaker 1:

That's, that's insane I don't love it. Hey, this is the area I don't love it because it it doesn't feel genuine from him that's what it is, hey, but that's why you gotta listen to the audio so you can know what we're exactly we're talking about but, this is talk fnf. I'm your host, rhetoric, and I'm with a lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Reality. Hi guys, had to stop her before she grabbed that glass.

Speaker 5:

I know right, I was about to be like All right.

Speaker 1:

So we got a lot to get into today. Man, it's been a very interesting week in the podcasting sphere. It has been yeah, we've had Mandy taking a. She's going on the offensive.

Speaker 1:

She's been kind of like, you know, shaking this tree kind of for a couple months now, apparently Most of this year, honestly, we could actually kind of say since Mel has joined the show, she's kind of been antagonizing this Because she's been talking about the six mics thing and a whole bunch of shit and it's culminated in her going on some tweets where she had basically said like Melissa Ford isn't holding her own on the show, she's not a good, you know, female representation for this podcast and essentially she's just making women look bad on this big of a scale. That that's basically what I got from the tweet.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, she, she did say that she wasn't a good representation of women. I think it is. It's hard to be in Mel's position when you're the only woman in a group of guys who really are not trying to let you get your shit off at all, and then also they all have similar like they agree on certain things.

Speaker 1:

They all come from a similar walk of life they're old men they all have like normally, if you're being for real like they all have similar experiences. They all link the world in a way that's you know it all values and benefits them in the same way. So, no, I can definitely see where it gets tough like that. But what I wanted to see is like what do you feel like, as a female podcaster, you have to bring just just on your own show or just anything like that? What do you think that male lacks that you you need in that?

Speaker 5:

I don't love critiquing her in this way because, like, she has shared with us that, like, cognitively, she's not where she wants to be and she she probably has thoughts faster than what she can articulate on the show and she probably wants to be more eloquent and quicker than she is on the show. So I don't I don't love critiquing her about that, but, um, I feel like the the guys have to like, let her get that space to articulate her point and then, um, but for your question, I feel like a uh, what a female podcaster needs to be, just not not just when you're the only woman in a group of men, when you're the only woman, point blank. I feel like you need to be relatable and women need to be comfortable with you and you need to not not just be relatable and like she wants to be you, but you need to be kind of like funny and I don't know. You need to come off as a girl's girl but doesn't that come with sharing and being?

Speaker 1:

you need to be vulnerable. Yeah, I think that's one thing about you need to be relatable.

Speaker 5:

you need to be vulnerable, you need to make people, you need to make women feel comfortable, they kind of they need to want to be your friend, and then they need to respect you too, which is a little hard, so, like you need to get your point across clearly, and I don't know if Mel does that all the time the way she wants to.

Speaker 1:

I also think that she maybe doesn't have the wherewithal to stand on everything. Maybe she believes to. Yeah, or she doesn't want to have to sit there and rest on her laurels regarding whatever opinion she might have.

Speaker 5:

I think that's a hard stance for her to do sometimes it does seem like she backs down or just like gives up on stuff a lot yeah but then like how could you not, when there's five other niggas barking in your face, not cutting you off over and over again, like your train of thought has probably been cut off, like it's just a chaotic situation, to to not be sharpened?

Speaker 1:

yeah, and I think that's what she has to kind of do is bring a more research oriented approach to the topics that they're they're gonna be talking about, because and I think it may be hard working with joe, because joe seems like the kind of guy where he's not into what you're saying you could have done like three hours of research and having points he's gonna say that's no, it's all stupid, I hate all that, and you're not gonna talk about anything that y'all do, and so then it feels like a waste of energy.

Speaker 1:

So I think in his in his business model. I think it doesn't thrive for her to do that, but I think maybe when in the pre-production it's just having notes and then you could just kind of just touch on them, because I know that happens to me sometimes, even when I'm like in spaces and stuff, I'll forget what I'm saying, or even here.

Speaker 1:

I'll forget what I'm, what I'm about to say, and what I'll do is I'll just write it in my phone, in my notes, so I'll just put a little buzzword for me to remember.

Speaker 1:

So then, right when you finish, or right when somebody finishes, I can go back and remember the buzzword so that can keep the flow going and I think that, like I said, just little things like that that you kind of gotta do, and I know it doesn't sound cool, good and it may not look the best on camera, but, like you said, like she said, she got something going on.

Speaker 1:

So yeah you kind of got to keep that approach ahead and like, maybe give her a little more heads up so she can have those runways, because it does have times where she's like she's just quiet, where she just doesn't say nothing, she's just sitting there looking. She'll do the whole walk in front of the camera thing. They was making fun of her regarding that. But what I want to say is, when you're with a group of men, what do you think you kind of have to show? Because do you it automatically? You feel like you have to represent all women every time you have a conversation.

Speaker 5:

I've learned from being a woman for as long as I've been a woman for my entire life. But like I've learned that like you just got to keep talking when you're in a group of men, because naturally men are like they're not gonna stop talking to give you space to like reply, or especially when there's a group of men right like they're doing their thing, naturally they're kind of gonna disregard you a little bit. So you kind of just gotta keep talking, like somebody's gonna try to cut you off and you just keep talking.

Speaker 1:

Talk like like you have to steamroll men it's funny because when you're the only one in the group of them which I know it's funny when you point out, because I used to when I used to be a manager at his little retail store. When I was a assistant manager, there was another girl who was. She was a little bit older than me, but she also was an assistant manager there too, and she saw the way I was talking to other guys and how I was able to get control of conversations with other men and things like that, and she was just like it. It was just so simple, just the way that you did. I was just able to break it down. She was like you just tell them what to what they're going to do, like you, just like. She's like, in a way, you just say, hey, this is what you should do, and then you say it in such a way that they don't even know that you're making a decision for them. And I was like, yeah, for the most part, that's what you do with everybody.

Speaker 1:

You know you just have this conversation with them, that you lead them to where you want the conversation to go to, and most people don't pick up on that.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. So like if you just keep talking, like there's going to be, if everyone was already engaged with what you're saying in the first place, most people are going to stay with you and not with whoever is trying to interrupt you. There's going to be a man who's going to be trying to interrupt you, especially on a podcast, and you can direct the conversation and keep it where you want to keep it. But that is hard to do with a loud mouth nigga like Joe, a loud mouth nigga like Flip and two very opinionated, stubborn niggas like Ice and Ish.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like with her and she does this very often she leaves a lot of meat on the bone for a lot of topics, because there's some times where you can expose men. You don't have to go to the darkest things like you did with you know, cameron and Mace, where you pull out the underage girls, but you can pull out some of the negative tendencies that come with. You know men's just ideal of a good time and what they may want to be entitled to in situations. And I feel like she just doesn't do that because she's scared and then have to defend that and it just feels like an onslaught from everybody.

Speaker 5:

But I mean we'll see more what's gonna happen after that, but uh, that that whole conversation about like female podcasters and what it takes to be a good female podcaster in a male space made me think about damaris, because I've been listening to rory and maul a little bit more well regularly now, because for the past like two, three weeks I've been listening to them regularly. I enjoy her a lot and julian that's his name, right yeah, um, rory and maul. I've had like a weird like up and down relationship with them because I was like definitely loved them when they were on Joe Budden podcast and then after I kind of I wasn't listening to them that much so I didn't really know that I would like them, but if I was listening from jump because Damaris was there from jump right for the most part yeah, so like I probably would have enjoyed it more if I had given it a chance.

Speaker 1:

I really like her, yeah she does a lot what you said she's funny.

Speaker 5:

I think the stories she tells are hilarious. She's young. She be outside like I like that a lot and then like I don't know, I think she was a really good choice because she's just interesting, like she's bi. You thought I'm obsessed with bisexuals, um like the little zoo animals I just like she was. She was talking about like hanging out the window and being drunk and like her, her friend was standing on a wheelchair person, like a disabled wheelchair person is sick like the.

Speaker 5:

The stories that she comes into the, the studio and tells are just absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 1:

I like her a lot yeah, joe said in the spaces where he's, he really is into damaris too. I think that she does those elements when you're in a male dominated space really well, and I think the fact that you have personalities like rory and julian around it kind of makes it more mad, because I think if everybody was like, how they are of the show at joe budden show, yeah, it would be enjoyable.

Speaker 1:

It would be a lot more contentious too, though, if everybody had a personality that they are at joe with damaris, because she's gonna clash yeah and I think oh, she would definitely clash, yeah, I think the reason why it works with she would call them out on a regular bait like no, that's fucking stupid.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, she does it with maul all the time because maul is the type of nigga that needs to be called out.

Speaker 1:

Because mall says flagrantly stupid shit all the time and I feel like he does that on purpose now, because it's kind of his brand now yeah, I mean he has kind of leaned into it a lot more than usual, but she's always kind of been like on like correcting him and making sure he doesn't while out, because he will say some off the wall shit all the time, and then he'd be like, oh, I like a little bit some once in a while.

Speaker 1:

He'd be like, oh, all right from what I've seen, and she'll make him like kind of back down a little bit, but I like her a lot yeah, I think she does what I was kind of saying, where she kind of highlights a lot of the uh entitlement and underbelly that men have in regards to you know, our idea of a good time and then she just be saying but she, can juggle back with it instead of making it like a victim type thing she jokes back with it on the last episode.

Speaker 5:

She said men should be seen and not heard see, but I like that the both ways though don't get mad at when it gets the other way.

Speaker 1:

That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5:

She said men should be seen and felt.

Speaker 1:

I think period, but not heard the thing about with her, though, is she likes to violate, then get mad at julian when he does, because julian will have similar jokes about being in the kitchen or what a woman's place is, and she gets so upset about that. But then, oh, when she does, it is cool, but I think there's some canoodling going on there with them too, but I don't gotta speak, that would just.

Speaker 5:

That's not interesting at all. Don't fuck each other. There's so many other people.

Speaker 1:

Just fuck other people I mean, I don't, I like, I like they'll never publicly no, but just stop.

Speaker 5:

If you, if y'all were doing it and y'all are still doing it and y'all haven't stopped.

Speaker 1:

Stop now, please she's looked at him too many times where it's like the look of I can't believe. I let you inside me look and I've gotten that before so it's like I know what that looks like yeah all right, so let's get into, okay, but what you guys say yeah, I was gonna.

Speaker 5:

I wasn't done with the podcast girlies, okay.

Speaker 5:

So next I was thinking about a podcast that I might stop listening to, cause poor minds was kind of the first podcast that I started listening to. I haven't been enjoying it that much lately and then I put on the most current episode and I was like I don't know, we'll see what they give me. This is like I'm going to give it a couple more chances, but this is the start of me trying to like wean myself off of poor minds because I haven't been enjoying it that much bitch. Was I wrong? This most current episode was Lex's birthday episode and they started the episode with the most fucking ridiculous freestyle I have ever heard. They both took turns. It was so stupid. I was literally in my car crying, laughing, like I felt like I was in that studio with them, like with my friends, just being dumb. It was amazing.

Speaker 5:

So I realized that the realize that the reason that I haven't been enjoying poor minds that much lately is because they've been having a lot of guests. When they have guests Lex and Drea their dynamic is drastically different. Obviously they're like in interview, like talk show mode. When they have guests it's a talk show, when they don't, it's a podcast and that is a very it's a very drastic difference For the listening experience when it comes to the two of them. They don't joke, they. Their back and forth is not like this my bitch and we getting, we, we having a glass of wine on the couch so there's no infighting.

Speaker 1:

Is what you're saying? There doesn't. There doesn't seem like there's any hate in between the two girls.

Speaker 5:

Like there doesn't seem like some jealousy not at all, but lex is starting her own youtube channel is it like a vlog, like what is she doing? No, she's gonna be doing content. She's gonna be like reviewing reality tv shows and stuff like that, because people have been asking her for reviews of like movies and things that she watches and stuff like that I wonder, is the reason why she's gonna start doing that?

Speaker 1:

I wonder, is that the reason why they're not putting it on that show is maybe she's not getting the same kind of splits?

Speaker 5:

I don't know, but I also think that let me speak for myself. I enjoy lex much more than I enjoy joya. I do like the both of them. I think the the duo is very strong. I think if I had to pick one, it would definitely 1000 be lex. She is hilarious. Like if she started practicing she could eventually maybe do stand-up comedy. Like that's how naturally funny she is. Her timing is is great, like the shit she says is you think she could be a solo act in regards to?

Speaker 5:

interviewing people 100 and taking that next media step.

Speaker 1:

Do you think that's something she should do like? Because I mean let's be honest, that is their, their, their dynamic can only take them so far, because there is that underbelly of like sexuality and things like that.

Speaker 5:

That's kind of attached. They have also, uh, changed the the undertones of their show for the past, like year yeah they don't really do the like we bad bitches. This is like how you get niggas with money podcast, because that's how that's kind of how it started, what they gave.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, it gave really high in escort.

Speaker 5:

I'll be I'll say that just saying they gave him like the instructions been in like long-term relationships now, like it's a completely different tone.

Speaker 1:

They're kind of like the aunties that are they both moving in conjunction the same way? In relationships trying to get married, trying to have children do you feel like one of them is like maybe pulling away from the media more than the other one no, um, drea has like her her beauty line and stuff and she's that's not media though it's not media, but basically I'm trying to say is there like a city girl situation going on? One of them don't really like the no, I think they friendship wise.

Speaker 5:

I think they're completely fine. I haven't seen anything weird or shady or anything, but they've had fight. They've come on the show and admitted like a couple weeks ago we had a fight right before the show and we can't tell so they hide it very well.

Speaker 5:

I wouldn't be able to know if lex and jay were fighting, even if they actually were. To me it doesn't seem like it, though. Okay, I don't think it's anything shady, I think it's just so apparent that lex is just so much bigger of a personality, and we have been craving and begging for her to just give us more like on tiktok, on instagram, on anything bitch like. I watched her on tikt TikTok Live for a couple minutes the other day, you know. I don't watch bitches on TikTok Live. I don't watch, nobody on.

Speaker 5:

TikTok Live On nothing live. I don't watch nobody and I was watching Lex just like sit in her living room Like she's just highly entertaining. Love her. And I want her to be successful in what she's doing and I want to seex on red carpets and I want to see lex hosting um vh1 reunions, like I see that for her 100 okay, no, I could definitely.

Speaker 1:

Now, now that you put something like that, I can definitely see her being a host of a lot of those reunion specials and stuff like that. So I can definitely see, but I think the time commitment with pork, because what they? Two episodes a week? No, it's one episode, but they do Patreon too right, yeah, and then it's filmed weeks. In advance.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, like you can tell that they film in advance. They be like oh, this episode is going to come out, blah, blah blah. So this should happen when this like they don't film and put it out the same week.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so okay, I guess it can work.

Speaker 5:

Now it can definitely work. Crazy, don't want to if they're doing multiple episodes, like in a in a day and they got to change and all that. Oh man makeup. Yeah, they have a patreon that's nuts, and then there's tears to their patreon too and all that shit.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if it'll be good to kind of do an analysis on that and see if it's worth breaking down. Uh, because I would just love to see their work ethic with that, because a?

Speaker 5:

lot of folks are Patreon. I'll subscribe to their Patreon because I've been thinking about it.

Speaker 1:

Well, if I didn't know, because you told me I couldn't do Rory and Maul, so you can't do theirs- Well, if we're going to do a thing, no, that's not a thing, man. We're going to be giving these folks our money. We need to start collecting our own. We need to get our own Patreon going. But, no to the realm of female podcasts, because we've had a big development call. Call her. Daddy has just signed a big contract with Sirius XM how much was the contract?

Speaker 1:

125 M's oh my god they tried to say the podcast.

Speaker 5:

Boom was dead but it's definitely not.

Speaker 1:

It's here it it is dead, in a way of companies aren't going to keep doing this the same way, but I think serious is a little different, because I have a little theory about what's going on with this. I think serious is about to be put in position where the flaws that they may have done in the past they're going to be. You know, get an opportunity to uh, to change that that back around. So if y'all remember like y'all younger don't remember series came out like in the early 2000s and then they eventually merged with another company like almost a decade later. But they were one of the first internet satellite radio people.

Speaker 1:

So you could go in purchase, like the satellite radio or whatever. Like my parents they got it grandfathered in where my mom has it in one of her cars, but she don't have to pay for it because it kind of came with her car. So that's how big it was. They were trying to get everybody to get into it.

Speaker 5:

It would be like a selling point to your car if it came with Sirius. Yeah, at that time.

Speaker 1:

Especially when they wasn't having a subscription, because at first they didn't have that you just pay for it, like by the year or whatever.

Speaker 5:

You would have to go get a separate radio that like gets it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean it's crazy now. Well, no, you don't, Because they could have put it into your radio too.

Speaker 5:

OK, but I remember like in the older cars. If you had an older car and you wanted it like you had to go get a replacement stereo that had Sirius XM.

Speaker 1:

So then, once they kind of brought that in, they put a lot of their their bones behind howard stern. The thing was was they were set up so well for the future because they kind of predicted the internet. Where they messed up was was they sided with someone who was going to be stuck in the past and they didn't know that howard stern probably was one of the worst deals, if we're being honest, like I worst deals, if we're being honest.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying if we're being honest in regards to hitching your wagon to somebody who was going to make sure you are indebted to them. That's what he did. That's essentially what he did. He basically had it to the fact where the serious model needed the Howard Stern show. He was going to be pretty much pushing out all the content to the point. Now he only works like six months out of the year how did he do that?

Speaker 1:

because he was so big, he was so big beforehand. I feel like on terrestrial radio that's the only person that I.

Speaker 5:

I thought it was just him.

Speaker 1:

No, it's him well it's like g union radios on there. There's like a bunch of other places that's on there. It's probably like four or five, like well, from what I can remember it could be more. It was like four or five hip hop stations and then they got like comedy stations and all sorts of different stuff. But he was the selling point. That's who they hitched a wagon to was Howard Stern is going to be our guy, but the thing was was he didn't embrace the internet. Howard Stern doesn't like to have his clips online. He doesn't like to have his old stuff, you know, be repurposed. I mean, he was doing wild shit. Yeah, he was a racist, homophobe and he was making fun of people with disabilities and all sorts of crazy stuff.

Speaker 5:

He was fully having bitches come on there and squirt.

Speaker 1:

And they was doing it getting naked.

Speaker 5:

He was being a pervert on the show.

Speaker 1:

What getting naked he was being a pervert on the show a ton. So, and that's the thing I hate. I hate about these guys like that, because it's him you could got you know, star. He had his situation too, where it's like y'all do all this stuff in the past, get all this notoriety, and then y'all try to wash it off by hiding it, and then, at the same token, get mad when people bring it up, so like if you were to find some old clips of footage of how we're starting to post it, they'll try to pull it off so fast. And so it's cool that y'all do that, but at the same token crazy you took a company.

Speaker 1:

That was probably like, if we think about, if you really do the speculation and do the just the guesstimation, if you want to about where series could have been, they could have been where spotify and all that shit is they should have been they should have been.

Speaker 1:

They should have been able to get all of that like as far as music and like they yeah, they should have been that but because they, like I, said how we should have been all of the all of the podcasts and all of the things should have been housed there so another reason why I feel like something's going on too is warren buffett has invested a lot of money, to the point where now his company, his investment company, owns three percent of syria. Like he just put a whole bunch of money into it and my thought is how big is three percent?

Speaker 5:

in the grand scheme of things, that's a lot, is it?

Speaker 1:

when you and when you have a company that's public, that people can buy, yeah, that's a lot. When you own three percent of a stock, okay, that's a lot, because a lot of times that doesn't happen where you buying that many shares of anything like that, okay, and for it to be like I said, this stock hasn't been profitable for years, like it was thirty dollars, like when it first came out and went up and down and it's three dollars now, three dollars and thirty cents oh my, how much of it did he need to buy for three percent, like I mean he put like a couple.

Speaker 1:

I'll show you it was. A document came out that showed a lot of places that he pulled out of and a lot of places that he's putting money into.

Speaker 1:

What I think is this I think we're coming into and this is my theory I think this is gonna happen with trump or kamala, but we're going to a nationalization of our media where we're going to be more focused on media coming in from america, like the whole tiktok thing, the fact that they don't want companies based out in uh, other countries to be able to have our data and stuff the thing I looked at when I was looking up series of series I always thought that was more about censorship than data but.

Speaker 1:

But it's going to come into censorship too. But the data is also part of it. But what I was just looking at is they're owned by a company that's based out in colorado, like they're. It's like highlight media or something like that. That's who kind of owns everything in regards to series. They're based out in colorado. So what I could just be seeing is we're going to be having companies either have to pay, like a big fine or not fine, but a tax or tariff or whatever. Not a tariff is not trade, but basically to do business in media, there's going to be like additional tax on to them yeah because you're based out in another country.

Speaker 1:

So, like the spotify's that are overseas um, apple will still be good, but like basically any company that's going to try to come in from the outside, I can see them being a push. There's like, no, we're not going to allow that or, if you do, it's going to be more taxes on it. So, to team up with a company who's american based and it's prime because they've had all this technology, they've had just been sitting there not being able to really take that next step because it's been revenue, people listen to it, but it's not where people it should. It should have been a youtube. It should have been one of those kind of factories of information because it was out before youtube.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but they was doing subscriptions and stuff, so that's another thing that messed it up too they didn't have a free option.

Speaker 1:

They should have had a free option and then you just have more content if you subscribe or you got it was like a luxury yeah, or they should have took away ads and stuff like because even when you bought that, that was the thing they were trying to say it was gonna be less ads. But you go listen to it now it's full of ads. So it gives you ads about serious I'm already here, yeah that's what I was so like. I was sitting there listening to my dad like why do they have a serious ad on serious radio?

Speaker 5:

when you can only listen to serious if you already pay for serious it was so crazy, I didn't, I didn't understand it at all but no, like I said, the company has been running into a way that you know they shouldn't have because they were.

Speaker 1:

They were the future and I think right now it's a promising opportunity and that's what warren buffett is looking at, and I think that could be scary, because I think that censorship plays a part. They're tired of us seeing these kids being hurt, being wars all over, because it's making people react. It's making people find a common thread, just like they did with the vietnam war and all that stuff yeah we. I don't think they want that anymore. I don't think they they feel that. How dangerous that is.

Speaker 5:

That is probably the closest thing we have to revolting there's just so many because we all agree on it there's so many different social media platforms and ways that you can get that. Like how are you gonna stop? Are you going to stop the niggas on 4chan? Yeah, but, I think the thing about 4chan and Reddit like it works its way up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I think that comes to my other little theory. So remember them, billionaires that died on a boat. So I was watching the dude I think his name's Ian or whatever but he does the breakdown of the money and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

He was saying that they owned a company they sold to hp that essentially did like a surveillance or monitoring they could take into account audio video, all sorts of stuff, like even if you kind of just did some funny shit to it, it could still locate and find those audios and videos. So I can imagine being where this is now, because they was in a whole dispute with uh hp in a lawsuit in two different countries, I believe and they won both of them. That's what they were celebrating their win. What I think that could be happening is that technology could have developed to the point now where if you put a video automatically gonna come off, we pulling it as soon as the outline that we see that. So as soon as that 12 second mark hit, boom, it's already's, already off. Nobody's even seeing, nobody's getting a chance to screen record it or anything. And I think that's the next.

Speaker 1:

I just feel like that gets touchy with freedom of just I don't know what it's going to make you do is you're going to have to alter the media. So now everything looks fake. You know now if I have to alter it to put it on the site and tell you that now it looks phony, now it looks because I had to do things too. That's where all the plan is.

Speaker 5:

The plans make everything look fake, confuse everything and control as much as what we're looking at, because the algorithm does that now yeah, everything, everything is gonna eventually come to light, though it's gonna take longer, like it used to, but like people are still gonna find out about atrocities that are happening across the globe eventually.

Speaker 1:

Even then, though, it's just gonna take. But again, just imagine how long it takes now. Just the whole thing with israel and palestine. Then the congo came up on people's radar, but that was been happening, that been happening longer.

Speaker 5:

That's, it's just it's at least what your radar is because I knew about the Congo before I knew about Palestine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I mean it was more aggressive in Congo as of recent than it had been, you know, before the october 7th so that's what I'm saying, like folks wasn't paying attention. Sudan, a whole bunch of places is going through crazy shit. It's going through crazy shit and then just to go back to the call your daddy and talking about the algorithm.

Speaker 5:

I don't know nobody that watches that I've never seen. Okay for her to be that big. The only call her daddy episode I've seen was the she um. I think she interviewed some love island people and I don't even know if that was call her daddy for real. But like, yeah, I've never, I've never, it's never come across my algorithms. It might have and I just didn't know that it was her or them.

Speaker 1:

The only one I ever saw was cole sprouse.

Speaker 5:

Is it one or two people?

Speaker 1:

it's one now used to be two, but she kicked her off and she signed with 60 million for spotify girl, you should have stayed with that, with that it was some. It was some like internal drama going on, like one girl was doing more than the other one and that's why she was like man, fuck you, bitch, I'm out, I don't get out of here okay, yeah that's what it kind of was.

Speaker 1:

It was kind of like how mandy and bridget broke up, but I think okay, so there's some people that have to be mad about this, deal in in retrospect obviously horrible decisions, because it just kind of shows the difference between white women talking about sex and black women talking about sex is there a podcast about sex?

Speaker 1:

horrible decisions yeah, no, call her daddy well, it was initially okay when it started it was them talking about them doing you know sexual stuff out in the town, kind of conversations. When it first started, okay, and then, um, it turned into more of an interview base and stuff like that. So the last time I saw.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's what I was on there. It's kind of just like an interview thing from zach and cody.

Speaker 1:

I watched his interview why, because he was smoking. He had a little cigarette inside and doors. I thought that was pretty fly like what. Smoking a cigarette in the interview? That if you want to catch my eye, that's one way to do it.

Speaker 5:

That's crazy that shit looks fly.

Speaker 1:

Just say you like him I don't like I know I watch, I watch a little bit of riverdale. Like you, have a man crush on cold sprouts.

Speaker 5:

Yes, I feel like that's the white man that you would be if you were a white man, and that's why you watch that. I can see that though. Yeah, I can see that being my vibe.

Speaker 1:

See, that could be my vibe.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Cole Sprouse kills shit, though he be hitting some bad joints though.

Speaker 5:

He, I guess I sprouse list look like. Or will he be knocking down?

Speaker 1:

I've never, I've never seen him linked to anybody, but I don't be paying attention to the man. I mean, like I said, algorithms, but just to say this these are people who probably are mad. I think horrible decisions is mad because we've been black women, women of color definitely talking about sex for years and not even got close to the 60 million deal y'all got with spotify. No, not at all. And Rory? I think Rory's upset.

Speaker 5:

Why is Rory upset?

Speaker 1:

Because this is the second time he's been used for proof of concept to the fact that Call Her Daddy gets paid. Joe Budden podcast.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

After that Call Her Daddy gets the money from Spotify. He was just with Sirius Left, and now Sirius spends 125 M's on Call of Duty, if I'm Rory, I'm punching air.

Speaker 5:

Shouldn't Rory and Maul be back?

Speaker 1:

I think more so, rory, because Maul was there too, but I don't think Maul's looking at it like that.

Speaker 1:

Maul's just like, hey, man, that just wasn't for us. I think Rory's punching air right now Because I would imagine that some of the things that he may have offered in their deal, that they probably put that in the contract with her to sweeten it up a little bit, and I he said he was in conversation with him to try to talk about expanded things. So I can imagine they took a lot of his ideas and ran with it and got somebody who has a way bigger market share, because that's the thing that they always forget. They feel like okay, if in in business logic they feel like, okay, if I do it with more money, I'll get a bigger result. That's generally the best practice.

Speaker 1:

They think that doesn't always happen in media. Sometimes when you give more people more money, it messes up the way people produce the media, because sometimes that raw, rugged, affected things is what gives it that culture and I don't think that with Roy and Mo. I think that's what would have been the case with them. They wouldn't have that raw feel with that kind of money behind it. They were just like, nah, let's just, let's get something bigger.

Speaker 5:

So I can understand. I don't know. I feel like their dynamic probably would have stayed the same and the field still might've stayed there. Um, it's the hard doing business with a nigga like mall in the picture.

Speaker 1:

I don with a nigga like maul in the picture. I don't think that. I think the only thing that would have been hard with them is because they're a music-based podcast, that the one thing they really would have wanted from serious would have been a license to be able to play music on like youtube and stuff like that, and I just don't see that benefit. Serious now serious is going to get an app that's more accessible to the public. Then that's a different discussion.

Speaker 5:

I don't being able to play your music on YouTube at this point is not even that important, because, as podcast listeners, if you listen to your podcast on YouTube then you know the little beginning part where the music is played is going to be cut out and that's just something that you're used to. If it's something that's important to you and you want, you want that listening experience. You know you have to go to to apple music or spotify or something like that, but like but I'm saying just that I don't think it's worth fighting for oh and contract negotiations if you're trying to get something to make you stand out, yeah, yeah, like it would definitely.

Speaker 5:

Um, I don't know. It just depends on where you listen to your podcast in the first place, because regardless of if rory and maul started doing the the music clip on youtube, I wouldn't switch to listening to them on youtube. I listen in my car.

Speaker 1:

I'm a car podcast but you get the music already though.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying it's because of where I listen to my podcast. Mostly I listen in my car. I'm not switching to youtube ever. There are probably a bunch of people who listen in their cars and it don't matter. Like there, we get the full experience regardless. So you're fighting for, like that, what? It just depends on the percentage of people who only take intake your content on youtube. Well, that's what I'm saying. Would that make you stick out?

Speaker 1:

more. What I'm saying is that would make you stick out to have a license for them to be able to play any kind of music on or they handle any kind of copyrights and stuff like generally. That would be a big relief for them because then they could just operate in a more uh, free, free, uh. Aspect, like right now you'll hear them talk about things oh, I don't play that clip because it's going to, you know, get flagged and all that if you had it, yeah if you have a company that's handling all that, you don't worry about any of that anymore.

Speaker 1:

So that's what I'm saying things like copyrights, all that kind of stuff. If they have that kind of plugin that could take their show to the next level yeah, copyrights and stuff for clips.

Speaker 5:

I think definitely would, um would change the experience, regardless of if you're listening or if you're watching on YouTube, because it's it's different across the board. So yeah. I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

All right. So Marlon and Marlon Wayans and Vlad have been going at it. They had a little altercation online, a little back and forth, so it seems like it stems from the fact that, uh, marlon had basically requested forty thousand dollars for an interview and vlad took that as disrespect and went on to say basically, like bro, you're not worth forty thousand. And I know people, wayne brothers I understand that he he is a wayne and I respect the waynes in the highest order of comedy in any sector stand up black hollywood royalty scripted like.

Speaker 1:

I respect them in that order. But when it comes to discussing the value of an interview, if we're going to just talk about one person who can begin be the 100 de facto uh person on an interview and how much it's worth it would be Vlad. Vlad does nothing but interviews. He knows the numbers of your interviews. He can go in and if I look at your, this is what he did. This is what he did. He said Marlon found someone with 200 followers to agree with him. Lol. That's because he said something about splitting the revenue or whatever. Nobody on Earth is going to pay you 40k for an interview. You get 100 to 300k on any platform he interviews on. This guy's really delusional. Now he can say that, though.

Speaker 5:

Like I don't want to be sitting like. I'm on vlad's side every time, but you are always on vlad's side. That's crazy. That's why I said that you're a traitor to the black race. That's crazy. Um what? Why did vlad bring this up?

Speaker 1:

because there was, there was, there was a tip. I could just say there was a back and forth with them about the fact that they had an interview, for he wanted to give like forty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5:

Who? Who brought this to the public's attention is my question.

Speaker 1:

Some this dude named yo d said I'll read the tweet. The dude said this is yo you a good one, because dj vay would have had to pay me 500k for an interview with 55 of all revenue made from the video on all platforms. And he said, see, I tried to tell him I was giving him a deal. Oh well, so he may have spoke about it, marlon may.

Speaker 5:

It looks like that's how this dude found out marlon spoke about it and he said this other guy tweeted in and that's what sparked everything between okay, because I'm just so confused as to why vlad opened his mouth in the first goddamn place to tell this black man that he's not worth what he's charging I don't think that that's not necessarily the case.

Speaker 1:

We take this like extreme stance on it, like, oh, like it's some slave shit it's not even worth this much. But it's like if I'm somebody who's in the market of paying for interviews and I see what the numbers that you do when you do an interview, you're not cracking millions of views. I know how much you're worth, I can assess that value but we don't.

Speaker 5:

I just feel like 40k is fair. I don't know what people are charging for interviews that pull in millions every time they get interviewed. More than that, no I would.

Speaker 1:

I would assume or probably, probably like maybe 60, 70, 80, maybe around that like we don't.

Speaker 5:

We don't the million views. Don't don't split like people think it's split we don't know the medium price point for us. And then is it am I charging you different if your platform is youtube versus a cable network, versus? But that's like a stream, like what.

Speaker 1:

I think that counts too where it's like a lot of people don't understand, like just because you're famous on tv or famous in movies, that doesn't automatically translate to the internet. It doesn't like. You have to. You have to kind of understand that you are now building a whole new market and a whole new avenue and you are experiencing people in a whole new venue.

Speaker 5:

Let me ask you this what do you think is a fair price for Marlon Wayans to ask Vlad for an interview?

Speaker 1:

Maybe at the most 20.

Speaker 5:

You wanted him to do half that. I just like. I feel like if I'm in at a point in my career that Marlon Wayans is at I'm not but 20,.

Speaker 1:

I got three hours though.

Speaker 1:

I'm not showing up nowhere for 20K and you answering everything Like that's, like it's nothing off the board. If I'm paying you 20 racks, like I said, that's the high end for a Marlon, so I'm paying 20 rack I need at least two and a half hours, two and a half hours or three hours of your time and I don't need a whole bunch of. I can't answer that because the thing is this like there's folks I'm not doing it, there's folks that he has signed, that I'm pretty sure that he is folks. That's on his regular recurring list of people who are going to be who he pays 40 000 for the year, like they're they're interviews who don't do as much. Like I'm pretty sure bootsy's getting six figures maybe. Maybe you know high, low six figure.

Speaker 1:

I'd probably say medium six figures boosie yeah I'm pretty sure he's getting about 200k from uh for an interview he's not doing an interview, though he's a recurring guest on vlad, so he does multiple okay, okay, okay okay.

Speaker 5:

I was like for interviews boozy is getting 200. No, like he was getting some break.

Speaker 1:

He said that he was 2000 he said he was getting broke off, though, like he said, vlad was breaking him off a lot of money. That's why he always you know, spoke highly of vlad, but no, I there's a to me. I feel like that's more in line with that for marlon wayne's. Marlon wayne's is not a big internet presence, he just it just not.

Speaker 2:

No, he's not even with his show that just came out.

Speaker 1:

It's not being seen, like I don't see clips of it everywhere, and things of that nature. My algorithm would be geared for something like that he just had one where I think he's like a car salesman, or something.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, I definitely haven't seen that yeah, he just, it just came and I'm a fan of marlon. Whenever I see like his breakfast club interviews pop up or something like that, like I'm gonna watch it then vlad got nasty.

Speaker 1:

After that he started posting like this little thing that was talking about him and his marlin and his baby mama and she was saying some shit about child support and all that with him. Like it got nasty, like he wasn't playing, but no, he got, he got weird. It got weird between them two. I just think that I don't think there's nothing wrong with Vlad saying hey, you're overpricing yourself, because I see what you produce and I know what kind of numbers you can get, so I can say you're not worth that. If anybody can say that, that's the interview guy.

Speaker 5:

I don't think he can. I don't think you should say that is overpriced. I just think you should be like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I don't think that's a good investment for me and you could have just kept it at that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, so let's get into the fact that women have horrible OGs. I want to get into that before we get into it, women have horrible OGs?

Speaker 5:

Yes, because the auntie Mothers.

Speaker 1:

I'm talking about just leadership.

Speaker 5:

Okay. I'm going to play a clip for y'all. He about to play some off the wall like shit. No, the auntie podcast.

Speaker 1:

I'm playing that.

Speaker 5:

Off the wall shit.

Speaker 1:

These women are seasoned women.

Speaker 5:

These ain't like some 20 year olds I'm going to hold your hand when I tell you this the auntie's podcast. None of them, bitches, are women that we see as role models. We see them and we like, yup, don't do that. Things like this. The thing that's what not to do, and I'm sure that every woman would sense sees these women and it's like, yeah, that's exactly what not to do. No, I don't think that. Do the opposite them.

Speaker 1:

I think y'all automatically assume every woman that y'all see has a high school diploma.

Speaker 4:

You know, what.

Speaker 5:

I'm saying Tokyo. Tony abuses her daughter in public on a regular basis.

Speaker 1:

And y'all still act like they all can read.

Speaker 3:

Play the clip One more time to say something to me fucked up, and I'm gonna reach over this table and I'm going to knock your fucking head off. I sure can. I sure the fuck can I, sure the fuck can I'm going to beat your motherfucking ass. Y'all better check this bitch. I'm not the one.

Speaker 1:

Tokyo. I'm not the one.

Speaker 3:

I'm letting you know I'm going to beat your ass. I'm going to let y'all, let them bitch run it. I want dog fuck your ass.

Speaker 1:

Tokyo got them bat wings on her own.

Speaker 5:

Make sure you do it after this is over, bitch. Make sure you do it after this is over, make sure.

Speaker 1:

You better, tia, just sitting there. Her teeth about to fall out of her mouth.

Speaker 4:

Number 10, I'm going to see bitch.

Speaker 3:

This is why this is why I don't give a fuck what your cameras is. You need to check these bitches.

Speaker 1:

Tokyo got some big arms. No, real talk.

Speaker 5:

Tokyo stacked.

Speaker 1:

I think that this is just an embarrassing. Zeus should be ashamed of himself. King Bach, I don't know how many times on this show that I need to come here and say with my whole, entire chest you are bad for the black community.

Speaker 5:

I hate your fucking guts.

Speaker 1:

You and all the little minions that you assembled to create this network. Y'all are disgusting dog.

Speaker 5:

I hope, all the weapons formed against you prosper like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1:

My nigga, oh my god giving these three women a show.

Speaker 5:

You are just essentially destroying the image of black people, it's just the two blue face. Mama is a guest? I think no. She on show she, she's.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a regular on the show. I thought she was. Yes, they had a guest. It was like some gay dude that came up there that was their guest and he was like I don't feel comfortable if everybody's going to be beefing and she's like no, they just want me to ask all the questions. Bring the energy, y'all bitches, do it now. That's what Tokyo was doing.

Speaker 5:

Oh my God, I didn't. And Blueface both in jail and nobody's taking care of the.

Speaker 1:

and then they posted pictures saying free my mommy and daddy.

Speaker 5:

That's not funny. Nobody is taking care of the baby. And then the mama or Zeus fighting with Black China Mama.

Speaker 1:

She calling the baby special too. You can't, you can't say that Okay, that's getting all that's getting beeped out, that's disgusting. I'm sorry, but I let's talk about the women. Let's talk about their behavior I feel like Creshawn it's gonna be a discussion in the back channels if we're gonna keep that or not, that was nuts like. What I'm saying is this this is the problem where we have when we don't invest in our communities hold on, but Zeus has no shame.

Speaker 5:

You said Zeus should be shameful. Zeus has no shame. Well, they should. Zeus goes into the seedy underbelly of all the worst negative black tropes and stereotypes and they're like let's highlight that yeah, this is.

Speaker 1:

This, is that's what behavior. This, like these women, don't need to be highlighted. They don't need to be okay. This is a new rule, man, I'm surprised they don't have trap house shows this is the new rule, man. We have to clean this kind of actions up, all right. So, as men, I am saying we need to change the way we use the like button. Okay, on these apps and on these Twitter, we need to stop liking these whores' pictures and thinking this escort lifestyle is the way that they need to be promoted. That's not happening.

Speaker 1:

What we need to do is you hit that bookmark. When they get a bookmark, they don't know who did it, it feels nasty and gross to them. What's more engagement who? No, it doesn't bookmark it's all the same.

Speaker 5:

No, no on tiktok. A bookmark counts as more what I'm saying is this on instagram. It counts as more engagement. Well, cool, what I'm saying is better than a light but the person who sees it doesn't see the bookmark.

Speaker 1:

They they already see. Is that somebody bookmark? They don't see the person. What I'm saying is that this is why, when you like something, you are giving it's got a heart, it's red, it's bright, it's colorful, you are giving positive affirmation. Stop giving that to escort and whore lifestyles. Give them the bookmark. It is cold an object. You you like pictures of girls in nice, clothed outfits, skirts to their ankles, if need be, we need to start promoting the modesty, because fuck all that.

Speaker 5:

Honestly, I don't no, I'm.

Speaker 1:

I don't want this next generation to be full of tokyo tonys and fucking tea camps it's not, but they're always gonna but they're gonna be the overarching majority.

Speaker 5:

They're not If we keep giving it attention.

Speaker 1:

People are gonna keep acting like them.

Speaker 5:

They're gonna be on Zeus, where they belong.

Speaker 1:

And more people are gonna create more. We already got Ray J creating Tron. Honestly that he had a transgender talking to Candace Owens. Why are you yelling? Because I'm just. I need to save my community this is what this is part of the show. Why I made this show is to save this community with my words, and the first part is shaming that bullshit. If I'm gonna talk about these niggas out here in the streets that's killing each other and how dumb they are.

Speaker 1:

I'm talking about these oars okay speaking of candace, owens, let's bring her up god damn she's gone full hitler on us, I think beforehand people have beforehand it was a little measured. I was a little bit okay with some of her commentary. Now she's just outright lying to the to the hundredth degree just making up facts. When it comes to this, am I too loud?

Speaker 5:

I like to get headphones yeah, it's getting a little loud, it's getting a little, but no it's getting crazy now.

Speaker 1:

She did like two spaces, now she's, she's, she's trying to get into my territory.

Speaker 5:

I don't like when everybody, all these republicans, getting into the space, wars now but yeah, elon musk is is the owner of twitter now, so he's that's where he wants all them people there he's been bringing them out, so he's got her.

Speaker 1:

Uh, who else he had? She's interviewed both the tape brothers. She did two different interviews with the tape brothers where they discussed a lot of this in in depth. And then even dan billizar which was he used to be my man's back in the day because I thought he was just about getting on the women. Now he didn't went full anti-semitic to the point where, like, okay, so just to kind of break.

Speaker 5:

He was like I was fine with the nigga when he was just uh, misogynist.

Speaker 1:

Now he's a misogynist and an anti-semi and I can't fuck, I can't bang with both of those, so like, okay, this is where it gets I hate this nigga this is where it gets weird, like because, okay, what she was kind of just saying in one of her first videos. She was like oh, the Jewish are, like you know, assisting these pedophile elites. You know that's been part of their like history. She convolutes so much shit, bro.

Speaker 5:

once you get into once I got into that part of TikTok I was like I have to back off.

Speaker 1:

But once you do a little bit of research on it you see that she's just convoluting stories yeah like. So what she kind of said was like she talked about sigmund freud, right. So first thing about sigmund freud. Everybody knows all his shit has been debunked like for the most part no one takes him serious, but she says his tool sigmund freud was um, because I I did take some.

Speaker 5:

Sigmund freud was the one that was like you want to fuck your daddy and you want to fuck your mama. Yeah, the odysseus yeah, yeah, I think there's odysseus, right um I could have said that totally wrong yeah, I think you did.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not odysseus, it's oedipus, oedipus but uh, no, yeah he, he did the theory of the oedipus complex and all that shit. Um, but like, what she tried to say is like the reason why he had all. Basically, she said the fact that he thought the way he thought should be a clue to why he was in line with the pedophiles. I hate that, because now you're just like criticizing people for thinking out of the box. What you try to say you're always for, but then she's like he was trying to save uh, well, protect men who who were doing stuff to their daughters, who were coming in and saying like their parents have assaulted them or their dad assaulted them.

Speaker 5:

Sigmund Freud's theories didn't do that.

Speaker 1:

She was trying to say that, basically, that's the reason why he created a lot of his theories was to clean up the actions that were going on in the jewish community. Okay, and to try to be like telling the women like oh no, you just want to have sex with your dad because of the oedipus complex and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

The reverse because there's an opposite, for it's a women version of it too, but, like I said, she's calm I never understood that his theories to be like you want to fuck your dad then she's like talks about the fact that, like people have, you know, broke down some of his letters and he has this one letters to this one guy I think his name is like wilford something or whatever and it was like real best buddies, always like exchanging information. They have very like raw conversations with each other. And one of the dudes who was at harvard he was, uh, you know, studied german and was able to translate some of the letters in a way that people weren't translating before. But it talked about some of his sexual peculiarities and she tried to say like oh, he was into like sleeping with young girls and all the other stuff. I couldn't find anything when I was researching it. Most of the stuff I found was like he was just talking about like sexual desires and things of that nature, but it nothing came up which was the bulk of his work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it was like nothing that came up to be like negative or pedophilic. And then also you got to take into account this nigga was living, doing most of this shit before 1900s. Yeah, like the whole, the fact that she even brings that up to say the whole pedophile shit wasn't looked at the same way then like it wasn't.

Speaker 5:

It didn't need justification back then.

Speaker 1:

But well, for one thing you gotta take into account like he kind of just kind of started in the area of children actually being a thing like he was one of the first people studying that, because at first children were just looked at like little adults. He was the first person to kind of link, like if you have trauma as a child that could affect you sexually as an adult yeah which I mean. I don't think that's necessarily a weird theory to have, but she perverted it his?

Speaker 5:

his main thing correct me if I'm wrong was that, like the first, um romantic connection you have with the other sex is with your? Your? Your parent when you're a very young child, and then you, you learn as you grow up that that's not a thing. But there are no sexual feelings that he said happen.

Speaker 1:

It's just like a it's more like a mindset type of thing yeah that's what he was trying to explain.

Speaker 1:

Again, all of the shit's been debunked but that's the stuff that he was trying to explain in his kind of early uh theories. But then she brings up somebody. Something actually happened in atlanta. So it was this dude named frank leo no, leo frank, excuse me. His name was leo frank and he was a jewish guy that had moved to atlanta. He was accused of killing and assaulting this 13 year old girl uh, her name was like mary something and you can actually look all this up.

Speaker 1:

Like georgia public broadcast and talks about all this stuff. He gets arrested, uh, essentially what? He's an example of anti-semitism in the south, and so he went to that's what I'm saying. He went to jail. Uh, the governor of georgia at the time basically was like, looked into the evidence and said he maybe felt like he didn't do it, so instead of giving him the death penalty, he gave him, uh, life in prison. That turned it up to the point the folks got upset, went into the prison, kidnapped him from the prison and lynched this nigga so come to find out like one of the people. Oh my god yeah no, for real they did.

Speaker 1:

There's like pictures of and everything of course there's pictures of it, but the way that she tells that she tries to say say like, because his last name was Frank, he was related to this Frank, this cult, which was a cult that had ties with Judaism and they did have ancestral ties. She tried to say pedophilic. I didn't see anything about pedophilic, but I did see having ancestral ties where, like, there was like stuff going on with fathers and daughters and stuff like relax my nigga like relax my nigga.

Speaker 1:

But uh no, they was talking about that so I did see that, but it was again. This is a lot older. She tries to like convolute all this stuff together into the fact of like israel being a thing like. She just like works it all into the whole. Oh, this is what they were doing to try to make israel their peder. Pedolith, you know, pedophile ground, they they literally. So she was trying to say that they was trying to make israel their peder pedolith, you know pedophile ground, they, they literally.

Speaker 5:

So she was trying to say that they was trying to make israel epstein's island basically, what the fuck ma'am? And then ma'am.

Speaker 1:

So then, once I go into it, I kind of feel conflicted about the leo uh frank thing because, like I said, a lot of people now think it was the black guy who snitched on him that killed the merry girl and I'm kind of like yo either way, like we got them to believe a black man on a story, or he put a bad jew in jail like you know, saying, got a lynch like either way, it's kind of fly for us, so that's why I was like when I learned about it and read about you you change the verbiage.

Speaker 5:

Not bad jew, just bad guy he was a bad jew guy.

Speaker 1:

If he killed a girl guy, okay, he was a bad guy, but we do nigga. So they can say we the raping nigga though, because that's what they're gonna say. That's what that's the story. If you look at modern history right now, that's who they say did it.

Speaker 5:

That's definitely what they was the nigga who snitched on him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so I'm like well, that's racist that you just put it on the black nigga. You know what? I'm saying like where's your, where's your evidence? My nigga, yeah so I didn't, I, yeah, that's why it's just I'm, I'm, I'm in a pickle. I don't know what to feel about that. But then she like goes and turns into like, oh you know, jewish people are going overseas and not being extradited for their crimes and they're, you know, they're pet. Like that's not true.

Speaker 5:

Like we've had laws between extradition in israel for years I was about to say, israel isn't one of those countries that you can't get extradited from when you're, when you get in trouble in the united states yes, you can, they will extradite you. Well, yeah it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not one of those states that you can't.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, okay, like no, but yeah, they'll they'll pull you like.

Speaker 1:

Even there's been like stories and lies. It was funny. I was watching a destiny stream there probably a small list, I'm about to look it up I was watching a Destiny stream and they were talking about this and they were trying to say, oh no, there's like 60 people, you know. Then they try to say there's thousands of people who just go to Israel. But, like when Destiny was breaking it down, these folks wasn't charged. They were just asked to come in for questioning and stuff like that. So it wasn't like they did anything to get extradited. Extradited is when we, you know, we need to charge this person, like we have criminal charges on this person, that we need to take them to court for and they and then your country gives them back, which they showed they did.

Speaker 1:

They've done that to a lot of people from israel you want me to read it real quick?

Speaker 5:

okay, the united states does not have an extradition treaty with china. Indonesia, iran, mongolia, russia, taiwan it's a long list you know who heard ukraine, vietnam, ggc states, most african states go to africa. My niggas go to africa, like go to africa if you can get there um soviet states, among others, um others. Uh, some countries with uxiction treaties have refused to extradite, including Ecuador, cuba, bolivia, nicaragua, iceland, pakistan, egypt.

Speaker 1:

What are you?

Speaker 5:

saying I don't know. I mean I don't know. As soon as I said it I was like why is that the only one? I said with an accent Switzerland, venezuela, zimbabwe, etc. You said all African countries. You didn't have to put Zimbabwe etc. You said all African countries. You didn't have to put Zimbabwe. Well, zimbabwe did like disagree specifically, even though they do have.

Speaker 5:

So that's probably why they but yeah my nigga, if you do some crime and you can get to Africa, just do it. Yeah, first of all the Porsche you have to be a citizen.

Speaker 1:

If you're not a citizen, they're going to extradite you.

Speaker 5:

Well, you can't just go there.

Speaker 1:

No, you got to be a citizen.

Speaker 5:

I wish Haiti was one of them.

Speaker 1:

There's some countries that.

Speaker 5:

Not that I plan on doing any crime.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure there's some countries that won't extradite you at all, Like that's what happened with Snowden when he went to russia. Russia was like no russia's on the list though.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but they say but they won't extradite their own citizen, but they didn't extradite him either, though. So, yeah, that's why I always thought that most times you just go there now.

Speaker 1:

Most times citizens like if you're not a citizen, they'll be like, okay, we'll send them back to you because they don't want you to oh well that's lit. It just depends, though.

Speaker 5:

It depends on your benefit, a benefit to them, like snowden was a benefit to them, because they'd be like fuck you america, like we're not gonna let y'all spy I wonder what the rules are, because if I'm in one of these countries that straight up does not have extradition, could I come here, run amok, get back home and just chill for real if you that's happened before. That's crazy. That is literally like a glitch in the matrix, glitch in the system that's liquid, which we'll call it.

Speaker 1:

Doing um what's his name?

Speaker 5:

russell, russell simmons, if he gets but he's not from, he's not an indonesian, you're right.

Speaker 1:

You're right, but no, he might have a passport there, though you don't know that we might have a passport. Does he have like dual citizenship? He might?

Speaker 5:

be well, if he was a nasty nigga from jump, that would be a I'm not I'm not praising him, but that would be a good plan.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't, if he did, if he didn't have dual citizenship because, like I said, that would give him more protections in there huh, let me google that too. Go ahead all right, let me want to get into some other conversations. So I think that this is kind of an important topic to have in regards to keith. So Keith Lee uh, he was copying a trend that chime time. I don't know if you heard of him he usually is referred to as evil.

Speaker 1:

Keith Lee, he did, and I wanted to give a shout out to Keith Lee because, keith Lee, even though you didn't say that in your video, you show him and everybody who's been doing this charity content shit, how you're supposed to do it. Like one of the things that always bothers me when I see people do charity content shit, how you're supposed to do it. Like one of the things that always bothers me when I see people do charity content is that they show the people that they're giving charity to and I think that's some of the most demeaning thing that you could do to somebody. Like they're already in a hard position in predicament and now you use that to now get money and get clout from and like okay, so the thing with Chimely he was giving out like eight hundred dollars for tips for a door dash. That's love. Yeah, like I'm not. He did it for like 15 people I will.

Speaker 1:

No, I think it's like 15 hours, so he was doing it for a lot of people. He would just order different.

Speaker 5:

He also does that when he goes to restaurants like thousand two thousand dollar tips.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but what a lot of times that he'll do is he'll show the people and then he'll show them in that emotional state I'm doing to give them a hug and all that other stuff and that's what he did.

Speaker 5:

That's part of the sauce for making you want to go to that restaurant no, no, this isn't about the restaurant.

Speaker 1:

This is what he did with the door dash. Same with the restaurants yeah I'm saying with the door dash people is. I got an issue with that because it's like these folks is working class people and granted, yeah, you, you did show them love and you helping them out, but they don't even really know, because now they ain't that bad of a position where eight hundred dollars is really changing their day.

Speaker 5:

The fact that no do you have to be in a bad position for eight hundred dollars to change your day okay, yeah, let's go to a manager at any job. Let's see if eight hundred dollars is really gonna change like I'm I no, I'm good, but eight hundred dollars is gonna change my day, but yeah, we live also, we're not high-end people, we're not upper middle class people.

Speaker 1:

Like what? Upper middle class people? Eight hundred dollars ain't changing. It's gonna make something easier that day. It's definitely gonna, but it's not changing your life, your trajectory, your life anyway no, but that's. That's a couple bills, yeah but that's again not changing the trajectory of your life. That just allows you to revert.

Speaker 5:

No, but you just move the goalposts. You said changed your day, your day. That's still not changing your day, just paying a bill. You just moved it to changing your life, changing your day and changing your life.

Speaker 1:

Changing your day is not doing that two very drastic.

Speaker 5:

We'll go back. We'll go back today drastically different things I'll stay a day.

Speaker 1:

It's still not changing your day. You, you just help somebody just for a little bit, but it's not changing their day. I'm just being honest. And for you to use their image and likeness like that, knowing that they not even gonna be in a space to be able to think about like all right, he was putting the door dashes.

Speaker 1:

Faces in the videos yeah and the dope thing about keith lee is he did the same thing but he didn't show their faces. He just showed the audio of them having a conversation and giving them the money and I feel like that's just a better way to do, like give people dignity yeah, like I don't understand.

Speaker 1:

Like y'all feel like once y'all get clout and y'all get people to recognize y'all, y'all feel like y'all better than people and y'all got to conduct yourself industry and everybody can just be. You know pawns in your, you know race to success. But, bro, like show people dignity. Dog, Like have some koof about yourself.

Speaker 5:

That's specifically why I don't like the people going up to homeless people, giving them haircuts and giving them money and taking them like. You don't need to record any of that, I don't mind that If you're going to get? I've never given money to a homeless person. Any of that. I don't mind that if you're gonna anytime. I've ever given money to a homeless person. I didn't take my phone out, I didn't feel the need, I just felt bad.

Speaker 1:

But even with the hair cuts, I can understand you want to record it just because of whatever content, but just have dignity, like give the person get rid of their face.

Speaker 5:

Don't have their face everywhere, don't you know very easily blur it out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah don't have them in some sob story and all that kind of stuff like that like, just be mindful of shit like that, because again today, these real people, they don't even understand how this could be affecting them in the future yeah, something like that.

Speaker 5:

That one girl on tiktok where she she helped the old man and then raised some money and then she was looking for him for a while and then she got him the money it was like over ten thousand dollars and then everyone figured out that he was um on the streets, um, and he had mad domestic violence fucking charges. Mad domestic violence charges, like he would just run up to bitches and start beating on them like and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And that's another thing too, where it's like just imagine somebody did something crazy. He's on drugs years ago. He went crazy. Now you putting his picture on the internet, people start to do searching on him. And now somebody who's just trying to clean up his past is now having to relive it every day and he's not even a big popular person just because you gave him eight hundred dollars.

Speaker 1:

So that's what I'm saying, bro, like I know people gonna be, like, oh, they should just be grateful and all that stuff. I'm sorry, I don't think that stupid ass, corny, ass, shit. Like y'all do. I think people, no matter what status they are, should have class, and I think when you are at a higher status of people, you should be more mindful of it than they are, because they don't really understand the implications, because you know why they're fucking struggling you don't need to put cameras in people's faces when you're helping them and, um, you're helping yourselves when you do that.

Speaker 5:

Like you, you need the content so that you can benefit off of it. If you just wanted to genuinely help these people, then you would just be volunteering at homeless shelters and soup kitchens and things of that nature donating, donating your clothes to homeless shelters when you, you do donate which we should probably do more often um, because men's shelters never get clothes um, men don't get clothes and products and stuff and shelters at all. It's mostly women that get that stuff donated to them. So that's what you, you need to be doing put your fucking phone away and don't make content out of it, and just be a good human see.

Speaker 1:

that makes me think about one time I went to sweet lounge and I was getting a table for me and my cousin that was in town. He never showed up, bastard. But the thing about Sweet Lounge is right across from the street there's a hotel. Next to the hotel there's a shelter. So you need to see a bunch of these people down on their luck and they just look to their left and they just see decadence and fucking degeneracy.

Speaker 5:

And empty beds. You know what I'm sayingence and fucking degeneracy and empty beds. You know a bunch of empty beds and empty rooms, but I mean I couldn't see that.

Speaker 1:

I could just see the home, I could just see the homeless guys outside the shelter. That was like behind the no.

Speaker 5:

But if I'm homeless and I see a hotel, I'm like there's probably a couple empty beds in there that I could be sleeping in.

Speaker 1:

What I'm saying is they're hearing the noise from the deck you know the degeneracy, yeah going on from across the street and I'm like, look at y'all just put money thousands, hundreds of dollars just so y'all could be cool and sweet lounge and like that probably could help that guy you know, eat a decent meal that he hasn't eaten in three days or something like that. It's just like. It's just crazy. When you just think about the, you know how close they were, in proximity, it was just nuts.

Speaker 1:

That happens in atlanta a lot like you're just right next to the shelter of a fully luxury building.

Speaker 5:

Get in the valet, get your car, drive down a single block and before you turn on the highway, it's six crackheads with signs asking you, begging you for money washing you want to wash your car?

Speaker 1:

yeah, like shout out to them, niggas, though you just gotta not make eye contact just shout out to them niggas though. Can I say this, though? And and people are gonna hate me. People are gonna hate me for this, and I don't care. But when, like, the celebrities get their house robbed in and nobody dies, favorite thing that happens like because, dead ass, nobody got hurt and that's, that's amazing.

Speaker 5:

No, I mean, let the people know what happened.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, it's it to me. I like that just because, like you, got to eat the rich the way they setting this system up is I'm just saying like y'all want to flex money, man niggas gotta start start taking that shit stop posting your your closets full of birkins and and chanel bags and shit well, I'm gonna be honest, I think her baby daddy set this up because they've been going through some turmoil at home been tracy and I'm sure he called his mans and was like hey, I just need you to bust at the house.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna bust in a direction that you not at, and then it's just gonna be over with so she was um back home, she was in detroit so and she posted that.

Speaker 5:

So I guess that's how she said, that's how niggas knew that she wasn't in her house and that they could run up in there. But her baby daddy happened to be in there, which technically he shouldn't have been in there because they they broken up.

Speaker 1:

I mean that don't mean he not in the house?

Speaker 5:

he don't, he don't have nowhere to go. How long it take you to get somewhere to go if you with a girl like her.

Speaker 1:

Let's be honest most if you're probably with her, you're probably a part of her. You know group, her, uh, entourage. You're probably working with her in some kind of fashion so would it?

Speaker 5:

would it be appropriate for me to tell um a previous work experience story that I've had with her baby daddy?

Speaker 1:

that's your job, that's you no, it's.

Speaker 5:

It's not my job anymore okay, of course.

Speaker 1:

Then why wouldn't it be?

Speaker 5:

okay. So I used to. I used to work somewhere where her baby daddy came in and he was getting a belt for himself and the belt was about like maybe 480 dollars and this nigga was trying to haggle me and negotiate with me in a luxury boutique. I was like, sir, the fucking prices, are the prices? Like? What the fuck are you trying to? First of all, this is not expensive. I know, probably for a belt $500 is expensive, but in luxury spaces that is dirt cheap. Like he was literally trying to haggle me down, I was like, oh my God, this man is a Baroque and he's short. He's literally 5'3".

Speaker 1:

Do y'all have control over that kind of stuff? We don't. I can't. That's why I was weird that he was doing it.

Speaker 5:

When you come in, the price is the price you pay plus tax, and that's the price you are paying period and that's the price you are paying period. This is not fucking like 57th street on the corner and habibi in the, in the fucking van with the, with the, with the with the bags. Like this is not that you pay the price that is on the tag period I mean, y'all want to live that little funny guy lifestyle.

Speaker 1:

I can't really speak to that. Y'all just like to buy a whole bunch of pig skin for high prices.

Speaker 5:

So none of it is pig skin might be just say calf skin pigs, cow.

Speaker 1:

They're fucking farm animals that people are paying thousands of dollars for okay, nobody is paying for pig skin, though.

Speaker 5:

I just want to let y'all know like no bags are made out of pig skin they got football bags.

Speaker 1:

I've seen a girl didn't turn a football into a purse.

Speaker 5:

That's pigskin yeah, but they made that a football first yeah, but they still turned it into a bag like leather, leather is cow. Hey, man, this is how you gotta set it up, man, because honestly.

Speaker 1:

Once you defend your girl in a firefight, you can cheat whenever, and that was clearly his problem why does everything lead to niggas can cheat now? Because when you, as a nigga, and you trying to get to the status, why can? He cheat when he set the shit up himself that's definitely when you could do it, because I care you know how much I care about you to set it up both ways I put my leather goods in danger.

Speaker 5:

Like what if?

Speaker 1:

no, I didn't, I told him I told him where to shoot at. He wasn't shooting anywhere near the house. What if one of the bullets grazed one him where to shoot at? He wasn't shooting anywhere near the house. What if one of the bullets?

Speaker 5:

grazed one of my handbags it wouldn't have because he wasn't shooting near the house.

Speaker 1:

He was shooting. There probably was hollow tips. There probably was no tips on there. He probably was blanks. I feel like we would have found that out.

Speaker 5:

No, the nigga was shooting blanks.

Speaker 1:

If there were no bullets.

Speaker 5:

No, he rounds still go on the ground when you shoot the blanks, it just don't nobody gonna get hurt. Oh, is there no gunpowder like there's?

Speaker 1:

no difference to tell. There's no way to tell the difference between a blank and a regular bullet, no, unless somebody got shot or you got the other end of the bullet somewhere where the bullet hit at okay, because all it is is when they do it, because when they take off the. What it is with a blank is they just take off the tip and then they take out some of the gunpowder. So then when you do it just makes that pop sound. Okay.

Speaker 1:

So then there is no bullet for you to get hit, there's no tip to be shot at you, so that's all he did. He just called bruh, told bruh, with the blanks, shoot something in the air. I'm going to shoot something back in the air and then my home going to be saved. And when you do, for me to go to those lengths, yes, I deserve extra vagina. And for me, if it was for real and I really defended my life, put my life on the line to defend your residence, hundred percent.

Speaker 5:

How is Tracy even?

Speaker 1:

I don't see where he where else you can go wrong with that. That's a good plan, big dog.

Speaker 5:

That's not.

Speaker 1:

That's what offset need to do. Also need to get.

Speaker 5:

Need to have a sentence.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say, if I was, Offset, I would get some niggas to kidnap Cardi and then I come in there busting the door. Offset hates, cardi, I'm going to bust in that door. He fucking hates her guts, I'm going to bust in that door and I'm going to save Cardi.

Speaker 5:

I'm going to be like, hey, y'all niggas a parent by cheating on her over and over again with her ops too, like that nigga hates her guts um, also, I was just gonna say the sentence I was saying before that you interrupted me over and over again um, inappropriate, you might need to bleep it out. I don't know if let me, let me mince my words a little bit I don't know if tracy can handle that for real, like I'm. I'm trying to imagine it and I'm like how did she get pregnant twice?

Speaker 1:

What we try to say. Like you ain't hanging. Or like what are you trying to say, well, he'll switch Like. What are you trying to say? Like?

Speaker 5:

no, I just he, he don't, I'm trying to understand. Give me big dick energy for real, I don't know. And then cash doll is like tall and thick and then like my like I've had conversations with men that been like, yeah, thick girls are like you gotta have a little bit more for the girls especially for the for.

Speaker 1:

Like the bbl girls too like he might be able to get her to get you gotta have a little bit of extra to reach. How would you know that?

Speaker 5:

That's what I just began. This statement was saying like I've had conversation with my male friends.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm talking about. How would you know that about him?

Speaker 5:

No, oh, I'm just assuming that's what I'm saying. I don't think like I'm like from what I've imagined.

Speaker 1:

It's just not looking like the best type of situation to me are you saying, like he's in the same standpoint, like a stunner girl like, well, that's her husband, or baby daddy that she just got?

Speaker 5:

what did stun a girl say about her husband?

Speaker 1:

I think she didn't stand on business with her about something so like she said he was a full pussy, right like a bitch. Yeah, she emasculated him that's, that's her husband I thought it was at least her baby daddy.

Speaker 5:

He did remember we talked about when buddy slapped her ass and he got beat up yeah, he definitely well he tried to stand on business but he got fucked up so she probably been dry as the sahara desert, since you tried to defend her and got fucked up I told you because son of girl is a thug ass bitch. Did you know she was a gangbanger for real? I'm pretty sure a lot of them are she is. I don't know which gang she is she's in. I think she a crip stun a girl like that's really crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's great, but I'm saying it's like just to see the grounds that we have to go through. That goes back to what I'm saying is why when you do defend, you know your girl on on some type of shit like that, you kind of get entitled to the extras, because look how y'all act when niggas don't be on.

Speaker 5:

No tough shit he tried to be on tough shit.

Speaker 5:

He failed and then I guess he's another situation he failed on being on tough shit all together and with a bitch like center girl who is with actual gang bangers who kill people you like. It's a very toxic like thought of um train of thought that she's having on a regular basis. That is not a regular bitch. A regular nigga cannot be with her. You can't just be beating niggas up regularly. Why didn't you pistol whip that nigga in the crowd? That's what she's thinking she's like. Why is this nigga still breathing? When he smacked my ass in public, everyone knows he smacked my ass. Now everyone knows he's still alive and again.

Speaker 1:

That only proves my point that even if he did handle business, he deserved extra vagina well, yeah, definitely, but he did not handle business.

Speaker 5:

I didn't say he deserved it. You got fucked up, tracy, did you got fucked up while being my nigga on camera? That's embarrassing for me. You deserve no more pussy ever again that's why, again, that's what tracy until you kill a nigga and that's what tracy did.

Speaker 1:

Tracy tracy didn't kill nobody, he shot back. That's still like the same thing. You might as well kill the nigga.

Speaker 5:

You shot back at him the little nigga in home alone did the same shit.

Speaker 1:

No, not that he painted that gun he painted that gun, though that was, that was a fake gun. All right, let's get into some more white stuff that we I like to just shit on white people make them look like bad.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, let's just be in white people's business a little bit blake livelyively had a little thing going on. That's crazy, because Blake Lively was one of my favorite white women for a long time. Her on Gossip Girl iconic, very iconic.

Speaker 1:

The reporter was so distraught at her experience with Blake. It was kind of funny a little bit.

Speaker 5:

Do we have a clip to play?

Speaker 1:

It's not a clip, because it was from an article, I think.

Speaker 5:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Are you going to play? It's not a clip, because it was like from an article, I think. Okay, so are you gonna read it? I'm gonna pull it up what happened, but essentially, like they're sitting down, you know, chopping it up, you know she's getting the interview down and she asked blake about, you know, her pregnancy, and then it all went left after that the blake is currently pregnant, and then she mentions her baby bump.

Speaker 5:

And then she was blake goes oh yeah, your bump is cute too, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Um the lady is not pregnant. She's like 50 years old yeah, she's also apparently infertile.

Speaker 5:

That's something that came out after the fact, so it was kind of like Blake was being unnecessary. Everyone, um who saw the interview interpreted it as Blake was being a mean girl. Um, in this whole circuit there was a couple other interviews where a promo run for has like themes of domestic, of dv and um, they asked her a question about like people who would feel triggered or something, and she was like well, they can just come to my house.

Speaker 5:

They can just come to my house and sit on my couch and tell me how they feel. Like she, just it was just like unnecessarily disingenuous do you think she's trying?

Speaker 1:

she tries to do the things her husband does, but like she forgets that he's like a man has a little bit of a charm to it that well, no, ryan Reynolds, people literally be like oh that's Deadpool.

Speaker 5:

Like because he's typecasted now as Deadpool. That's specifically why he gets more leeway. It's not.

Speaker 1:

I disagree in, in, in that I think in that specific like the reason why I say that's because he was doing interviews like that before Deadpool, where he would just be like doing one little liners, making little sexual in the windows and stuff like that. That's why people always felt like he was perfect for Deadpool, because that's how he always gave it up in his interviews okay, I didn't, I've never.

Speaker 5:

No, it's awkward because she was. She was genuinely being like passive, aggressive and weird the whole time and it was uncomfortable to watch, see that's the thing with me.

Speaker 1:

Remember when I told you before like I never knew how to read white women? Yeah, so, like certain cues and stuff, that's the whole time. I'd never got that. Like I didn't get that she was being like shady or anything to or anything, like it all went. It's hard for me to read white women. It's just not the same kind of cues that they give off, like even tone wise, or facial expressions like it didn't feel like it was doing anything shady. Look like she was just saying that, maybe thinking she was being stupid, but maybe that's just my like racial programming, whereas, like, I don't think white women is being like these uh, purposely mean individuals, unless directed to by their, you know, white male counterparts no, they don't need to be directed to I'm just telling you what I.

Speaker 5:

Maybe that's what my brain is yeah, change your brain because it's wrong. That's not how it works. It's yeah, they don't need to be. That's not how your brain works, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1:

Mine Anybody's, yeah, no, you don't just change the way that you know stimuli has affected it over years, unfortunately. Hate to break it to you. I don't throw this whole shit at you Look how you just get up secret.

Speaker 5:

Because was he not being shady as fuck just now?

Speaker 1:

Was he not being shady as fuck just now? Was he not being shady as fuck just now Over the white woman, because a white woman wouldn't act like that? Was he not being shady as fuck.

Speaker 5:

He was like oh, I'm sorry because you've never grown from anything you've learned over the years. Nigga, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1:

I didn't say anything like that, shut the entire fuck up. I didn't say anything like that. First of all, that's insane.

Speaker 5:

I first of all, that's insane. I didn't say anything. That's crazy. I didn't say anything like that's really crazy that he just fixed his fucking mouth to say that shit to me. Oh, the stimuli that I've have. This has affected me and it hasn't see what's the next topic?

Speaker 1:

last one, uh we gotta get into bo.

Speaker 5:

What was going on with him at x-men 97, so you remember I told you, I'd have cursed you out for that, regardless of if I was drinking champagne or not. I'm from new york see, but you're just.

Speaker 1:

You took something that I wasn't even. The playback is gonna look crazy for you on that, uh. But bo de mayo was the showrunner for x-men 97 and remember I told you he got fired like right before the first episode even came out yeah, and you said he was like tweeting yeah, he was tweeting through the entire show but there was like some stuff that he had to get contractually approved. What was he tweeting about?

Speaker 1:

this is about the show itself like inspirations and like where things came from, and he was like in this and he was like yeah, basically he's doing like uh, setting things up like, oh, this is gonna be important later, pay attention to this, like he was doing. You know showrunner stuff. But really like um, he's probably more aggressive than you see more more most showrunners are. Usually they have little spots that they do this. He was every week. He was doing his thing, but you know, you don't.

Speaker 5:

Normally they have that behind the scenes type of stuff that comes out, yeah, like you watch game of thrones, yeah, with house of the dragon.

Speaker 1:

So since he couldn't do that, excuse me, he did that with with Twitter on Twitter so it came out like there was so many theories on like why would, after he just did this great show that's been, you know, so revered by everybody, and also we got a second season set up for it why would they let him go? So like first thing came out was like he had an OnlyFans. That was like one of the big theories, but it wasn't sexual OnlyFans, okay.

Speaker 5:

I was like this nigga was showing booty hole, but it wasn't like nothing like sexual about it.

Speaker 1:

They just said it was like something he had an OnlyFans. Well, that's not a. Then, like a whole bunch of other little stories here and there came out. My theory was and I guess this could be the progressive I am in my heart, or this was an example of a super confident, uh, black man who's gay who's just not afraid and who's not afraid to express that.

Speaker 1:

You know that's who he is. So I thought maybe that kind of rubbed along people a long way, um, and maybe that was had something to do with, like, maybe he was being brash in a way that we would let a heterosexual man be and not really say too much, but because he was gay, it got a little more pushback, okay, but that's not what happened.

Speaker 5:

So, oh, okay, I was like maybe we only have your theories to go off of. But yeah, tell me what actually happened.

Speaker 1:

The leading allegation so far. Right now that's been reported and this has come from disney that he did some egregious actions. What they have, come to find out what they say the egregious action was was one was he was a physically and verbally abusive on set to people that he was working with okay, in regards to that physically and verbally yeah damn, he was smacking niggas on set probably throwing stuff around.

Speaker 1:

You know things like that. He may not have actually had hit nobody, but if I throw something in your direction or you know, apparently that's physical abuse it is yeah, it is Silly, but because it's a woman, it's not a thing.

Speaker 1:

But so no, they said that. They said that he was sending pictures of himself. So a lot of times, showrunners and people who are working on these shows they will send, like, use themselves as art sometimes and like, maybe draw themselves so that there's a template for the characters that people are working on. They were saying he was doing like sexual poses and dressing up like the characters and giving pictures out to the people for them to be. That would be their x-men characters.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like he was like wearing basically one of the things he posted actually, uh, recently was like yeah, wait, he was like in wolverine and the clothes was opening up the booty hole.

Speaker 5:

No, it was Cyclops.

Speaker 1:

And he had the tights on and the little vest thing, but he didn't have no clothes on, so he was naked, ripped up, and he had a picture of him looking like Cyclops. Ok, but he could do that. No, he that's one of the reasons why they got upset was Disney didn't like that.

Speaker 5:

So this is why another reason- he couldn't have just taken that down?

Speaker 1:

so this is why another reason he couldn't have just taken that down. Well, he could have, but this is another reason why disney is kind of super duper protective about this. So the first dude who did x-men, brian singer. He has a lot of nasty shit on his record. I think he's also a gay man too. I'm sorry if I'm wrong about that, but he has a lot of nasty shit on his record, uh. And so the thing about with him is he kind of sullied the name of all the x-men films. Because of where his contract was set up. He had to uh have his name on every x-men movie. So I think oh wow.

Speaker 1:

What was going on was that they didn't want this to happen again with this new property, and being so sensitive was like you got these allegations you sending pictures of yourself to people who's working there. They also say he was groping some of the young male cast members and stuff like that, getting physical with them. Is this like? This is what the allegations are. Okay, so these are the allegations that he Damn.

Speaker 1:

He said he's going to be more to be revealed and he's going to talk about more about it on his end. But that's what's being said right now. So I felt bad. When I'm like damn man, I'm thinking about to defend this brother, I'm gonna come up here. Oh, y'all hating on the gay man because he confident, because he ain't afraid to fuck a nigga in the ass and look you in the eye. But it's like no, this nigga out here, acting like that was wild.

Speaker 5:

I wasn't expecting that to come out of his mouth at all.

Speaker 1:

That nigga's aggressive, he one of them kind of gays. He one of them gays that's going to put his hand on you and be like, hey, you sure. You all right, you don't want that you remember.

Speaker 5:

Oh my God, that was disgusting that was wild, you remember, on the game. I didn't even have a person on me and I felt disgusted by that you remember on the game, when the big offensive lineman yes, with Malik remember that vividly.

Speaker 1:

I feel like he's. That's the kind of time he was on, that's the kind of game man he came off, like me, like he'll pay some jay holiday and try to I feel like that was you up.

Speaker 5:

That was just specifically disturbing because of just how big and manly both of them were. The thing is.

Speaker 1:

It would look way crazier if they were actual nfl players, like they were to size, because he was a little bit smaller than malik and he was just fatter, but he was a little bit stop they were.

Speaker 1:

They were all generally small to be, I mean of course they're actors, but I'm just saying like if, if you were to look at a 300 pound man, really grab up on a 200 pound man like that, because usually he's off his line like six, six, six, seven. So, and the quarterback maybe six, three, six, four. He may be on the tall side, but usually he's around like that six, four.

Speaker 1:

So a bigger man just grabbing you up like that from behind looks crazier than what that's absolutely insane it would be scary you would feel like it's over with I'm just saying yeah, this is no bullshit, there's no bullshit at all.

Speaker 5:

Life will flash before your eyes like what is happening. Am I about to get bent over? Am I about to be penetrated?

Speaker 1:

ah, you'd have been over there to turn you into jules lebron all of the just like a million thoughts per second.

Speaker 5:

Have you switching up? Like jules lebron yeah, I'd clench everything up so quick I would shatter my teeth.

Speaker 1:

Very shy, very, very mindful. That's the thing too. I want to say to y'all, to y'all women y'all are not modest or mindful. Like y'all idols, be whores. So like y'all have to stop with this idea that like y'all are modest and mindful women. No, you're not. Like it's okay, I've never come on being from new york.

Speaker 5:

As a woman, I never thought I was demure or modest or mindful. I've been dead ass for mad long. My nigga like don't play with me um we're trying to work on the more demure, demure. We're trying to work on it yeah, say the word right before you try to impose it on me. Um, that's fair, right, that's like bare minimum, did you? You did want to talk about, um, the what's her name?

Speaker 5:

the demure girl, I thought you said you didn't want to talk about that no, you said that this would be at the end because it would be out. I just feel like I wanted to.

Speaker 1:

I just want to ask the question would lebron be homophobic if he did a cease and desist on this person? Their names why jules?

Speaker 5:

lebron oh, but lebron. Lebron isn't the only LeBron in the world. There have been LeBrons before him? No, I'm pretty sure he's trademarked the hell out of that.

Speaker 1:

Nah, LeBron James is the most famous LeBron. That person's name is not LeBron yo.

Speaker 5:

No.

Speaker 1:

Her name is Jules.

Speaker 5:

Everyone calls her Jules. Yeah, but okay, then that's why when you brought up and you said Jules LeBron, I was like who the fuck is that? Because if you said Jules the demure girl, then I would have been like yeah, like that's, I know exactly who that is. But when you said Jules LeBron, I was like put a stop to that.

Speaker 1:

You got to take the LeBron off your name. You can be Jules, but like the fact that you're Jules LeBron and I'm also associated with yes, jewels and I'm trying to keep my house in order my wife already bringing up times when I called her wifey we wasn't married on podcast, I have a problem. She did that. She was talking about the whole like oh, I hate when being called wifey and you know my husband used to do that call me wifey. I'm not your wife, though I'm 10 years like girl.

Speaker 5:

You got the ring. It's fine, don't like them.

Speaker 1:

10 years had her in hell come on 10 years, when they were, they were together for 10 years but y'all was y'all been together since high school Like? I feel like she was in hell. He was still messing. Come on, bro, like 100%.

Speaker 5:

Beyonce's cousin. I feel like when y'all were together since high school, then you, you definitely need to give each other time to grow to. You definitely need to give each other time to grow to become the people who you're going to be, to choose each other.

Speaker 1:

You don't want a nigga to choose you. She don't get that option. Though you don't, she don't get that option.

Speaker 5:

You don't want a nigga to choose you at 22. Like if it's. Lebron. If it's LeBron, yeah. If it's LeBron option for either of y'all. Because y'all are not the people y'all are going to end up being. It works for some people. It doesn't work for most people.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think she took advantage of the fact that LeBron wanted that to his name. I think he especially when she got pregnant with his kid he valued that opportunity to be the dad he didn't have.

Speaker 5:

We don't need to talk about lebron and savannah again. I want to stay on jules, oh, okay because there's a specific conversation that you wanted to have you want to.

Speaker 1:

I'm talking about the fleet girl. So the fact that, yes, okay, the jules lebron girl said that, due to the viral video, she was going to be able to get her transition completed.

Speaker 5:

She said that she was. She was able to do a couple hostings because of the viral video and now she's able to afford her transition and she can go and move forward with her transition now. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what I was just saying was this is messed up when you put in the retrospect the on flea girl who started her shit and she never got it really on the ground, she never really got to monetize off of it in a real way because of the way that the Internet was set up.

Speaker 5:

The way.

Speaker 1:

Vine was set up. Yeah, of it in a real way, because of the way that the internet was set up, with the way vine was set up. Yeah, and it just seems like the trans people, the trans women are, you know, showing y'all how to be girls, like it seems like they more in control of it than y'all are are the trans women not girls. I think they're trans girls that's where I think it.

Speaker 5:

It's a little bit different because I do consider trans women girls. So I feel, like you said, that trans women are doing a better job at being feminine than cis women. I'm saying they're leading the femininity. They're leading the femininity over cisgendered women, which is crazy, but I feel like trans women are women. Are these bitches not supposed to be feminine?

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that they don't have to be. I'm saying they're outdoing the women who are assigned this at birth Do you not think?

Speaker 5:

okay, I just feel like you about to drag me into an ignorant-ass conversation. Let me precursor this with trans women are women If whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1:

I like what the trans, whatever, whatever female identity.

Speaker 5:

What type of caricature of of female identity that you want to take on? Not even caricature whatever um femininity that you want to emulate? Fucking do that bitch. But are trans women not supposed to be. I'm just saying that's just an interesting and then as a trans woman, wouldn't you?

Speaker 1:

overcompensate. That's like a trans man lifting the most weights.

Speaker 5:

That shit's odd if I'm a trans man? And I hmm, what if I'm a trans man? I'm in the gym, I don't even got a dick, and then all these niggas got dicks, and then everyone's pumping iron, and then I'm like you know what, let me act like I got the biggest dick in here and pump the most iron. That's what I feel like.

Speaker 1:

But I'm saying for them to be able to do that obviously it wouldn't physically happen just because of biological limitations.

Speaker 5:

Real, quick off topic. Trans men be fine as hell. What's going on? The trans men it's not. Even. I don't really think I'm not attracted. Are you attracted to me? Like, I'm not squirrely, I'm not a twink, no, because the trans men don't be squirrely or twinks at all, but like, um, as far as passability goes, I think it's easier for trans men than it is for trans women, because there are a lot of moving parts, um, when it comes to being a woman, and then for a trans man, you're transitioning into something that is simpler to be.

Speaker 1:

It's easier to be that it's also true that men are the default in society.

Speaker 5:

We it's not as interesting it was not as interesting.

Speaker 1:

We're the default exactly.

Speaker 5:

It's not as interesting for you to transition into a man no, that's for you, but the.

Speaker 1:

The actual sociological view of it would be the fact that men, to want to be a man, is to say, in a way, I want to be on top, I want to be number one. Those are synonymous in regards to that. So that's why it's not hard to make sense. That's why don't nobody criticize the stud, because why wouldn't you want to act like a dude?

Speaker 5:

because yeah, it's not interesting if you want to transition into privilege we're saying the same thing in different fonts. Well, yours it's not exciting. Like it's not, we don't want to follow that. There's nothing exciting like it's not interesting, like, of course, you want to do that you want to, it's more palatable yeah, it's more palatable you want to do what you're going to benefit the most from yes, for you to become a man, then it is for you to become a woman, because having a pussy sucks, all right, it does honestly it bleeds, it's symbolically knocked up physically, emotionally.

Speaker 1:

It sucks in every way hormones going through your body you can't control. But then if you blame them on things, people get mad. And a few other people blame on things they sexist. But then you say that things are going on Stop talking, then you say that, like women are the most oppressed. But then when you bring up the oppression and the limitations, now you are a misogynistic pig with nuance.

Speaker 5:

I want to unplug his mic, I just want to fully, just like.

Speaker 1:

No, I'll be eating. You just be hating.

Speaker 5:

Somebody called him a nuanced misogynist on the last show yeah, he was like oh nuance like missed the whole misogynist part, like that's dope.

Speaker 1:

Being a nuanced misogynist is lit because that means. That means you're saying shit that she kind of got to go with, but because you feel like what you, a man, saying it is, she's like I gotta negate it.

Speaker 5:

That's the best part you would take it as that. Or you're saying shit that is misogynist as fuck, but it's a different take to the misogyny like, of course you.

Speaker 1:

Of course you would take it as that mine is way more wavy go ahead, baby, take us away life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family. The only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations. Tell them what they need to do.

Speaker 5:

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