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Megan thee Stallion VIOLATES Nicki Minaj at VMAs, Jayz Selects Kendrick Lamar for Superbowl, and Shannon Sharpe Exposed on LIVE - Talk FNF TV
Join us for an animated discussion where we challenge the conventional wisdom around this major event, arguing why Kendrick Lamar is the perfect headliner despite the host city’s local artist. We also dive into the potential pitfalls and triumphs of Lil Wayne taking the stage, scrutinizing the politics behind these high-stakes decisions within the music industry. With our usual blend of humor and candid commentary, we explore the dynamic tension between Roc Nation and YMCMB, shedding light on the strategic moves shaping today's hip-hop landscape.
From Victoria Monét’s burgeoning R&B career to the nostalgia of VMAs past, our latest episode covers a spectrum of music and pop culture insights. We share hilarious reflections on Lil Nas X and Hailey Bieber’s latest escapades and get real about the cosmetic surgery trends among celebrities like SZA . We also touch upon the unique cultural perceptions, including Haitian misinformation, and debate the ever-evolving images of iconic artists like Lenny Kravits and LL Cool J. Tune in for our take on the fashion highs and lows from the VMAs red carpet, featuring standout looks from Paris Hilton and Taylor Swift, and the artistry behind memorable performances.
Curious about the latest celebrity drama and music industry trends? We’ve got you covered. From Shannon Sharpe’s IG Live mishap to Megan Thee Stallion hosting the VMAs, every moment is packed with insight and entertainment. We also touch on serious topics like reproductive rights through impactful lyrics and the evolving dynamics of black gender relationships. And let’s not forget our humor-laden critique of Zoe Spencer’s ‘cringy’ comedy attempts and the potential Beyoncé and Doechii collaboration. Don’t miss out on this rollercoaster ride through the worlds of music, fashion, and cultural commentary.
the only girl, the r&b girl um, who would come close is victoria monae this year okay, you know it was funny. Little nas x, she, she was like handing it over and hailey was just standing there like I'm not taking that from you either, I just I'm dainty too. I just gave birth and then little nas took a little too long because he was like I'm a homosexual that's it and that's the problem, you think whatever it is.
Speaker 1:I've done this before, I'm good at it and I'm going to do it again and I'm going to stomp you the f*** out. That's what I got from that.
Speaker 3:Drake, we're going to pull some fresh white ones. Black Air Force energy is heinous. I'm watching LL and I'm thinking to myself, like you was the no shirt, so like why don't you have your shirt off right now, if you still still that guy? And I'm like, oh, I know why, cause you have breasts because of the, the injections.
Speaker 1:They think it's evil. Haitians think cats are evil, so why?
Speaker 3:would we ingest them? She heard that little. She saw that little pad comment you put on on her post sexy red, and she came out with that moose knuckle.
Speaker 1:She came out with that moose knuckle, let you know it would be obscene if she went to any other doctor other than the the same person who did scissors work.
Speaker 3:I mean that is some of the best work. It's a good architect man like I mean. The guy was a sculptor that the doctor he really was. He took his time yeah, he's an artist Way better than God could have did.
Speaker 4:What the fuck? Just what? Oh my.
Speaker 1:God. Super Bowl halftime show is not a cultural representation of the city that it's being held in. It never has been so that's why I was a little bit confused as to why everyone specifically wanted Lil Wayne. I know he is a legacy act, so Lil Wayne has the catalog to headline the super bowl, especially if he brings out a drake. A nikki minaj and all of the people in young money like that definitely sounded like shannon. He was beating the doonies down your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives.
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Speaker 3:That's it all right, everybody. First and foremost, I just want to let y'all know that this episode is going to be brought to you by caffeine and alcohol, because we had planned to do this earlier in the day, but then stuff just kept happening it was extremely eventful of a day yeah, like we've. We've been asking for this day for a while because if y'all notice our show, like a lot of the stuff has been happening, like on thursdays and after after we record so we've been during the time we're recording.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, make some things happen where it's like we can't really put all of the content out. So today a lot of stuff that happened fresh. Yeah. That we're going to be able to be like literally on top of as soon as it happens.
Speaker 1:I'm very excited for it.
Speaker 3:Thank you, shannon, I just wanted to go start that off. Thank you, you gave us a lot.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:We didn't even know, like the VMAs. That was another thing too.
Speaker 1:We had no idea the VMAs were today, so we had to stop and watch that.
Speaker 3:And then, like I was kind of like usually we supposed to have Ty right, ty supposed to be here with the awards, and I'm mad because I wanted to ask him about La Roche and Naomi Campbell, who got shaved by Rihanna. You didn't see that.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 3:I saw Naomi Campbell's shade and and a winter no, they was walking and, uh, rihanna was walking by, just like one of the little fashion week events, I think and she just walked right by him, didn't even acknowledge him oh it was good. It was good, but that's not gonna be what we're talking about today. So we just have so, so much to get into. So so much to get into, man, I'm excited, I'm excited, man. This is like the good time when it's the podcast.
Speaker 1:This rarely happens. I feel like this happened maybe one time, with, like maybe Kendrick dropping songs directly before we start recording which happened again today. Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3:The gift that just keeps on giving.
Speaker 1:Today is good.
Speaker 5:All right, so let's get to the music, it's all meaningless.
Speaker 6:I dedicated myself to helping music. Sometimes you need to take responsibility for your own happiness.
Speaker 7:You don't think that's a little selfish?
Speaker 5:I don't know what to tell you. I'm happy for the first time in my life and I'm not going to feel bad about it. It takes a long time to realize how truly miserable you are and even longer.
Speaker 1:to see that it doesn't have to be that way, I'm about to give you a BoJack monologue. Only after you give up everything can you begin to find a way to be happy.
Speaker 4:All right To find a way to be happy RIP to a goat right here. Thank you, so many moments, thank you. So many moments, me and my homeboy going through the car pumping this shit. I never heard this song in my life. I'm telling you this is it, my nigga, I had a homeboy who Rich from the corner was his homie.
Speaker 1:Like he felt. It felt that was him. I know a lot of you niggas can't relate to this because you don't have fathers, that's all I gotta say KC, you little niggas, put some money in the way.
Speaker 4:And I'm sitting high Against the ride blazing. If you ain't gonna ride, fly, then you might as well hate Shit. I gotta eat. Yeah, even though I ain't knowin' it ain't my birthday, but I got my name on that cake. I can't believe that Niggas won't play and I'ma fuck them, run and put the ball braids on the cake, okay.
Speaker 3:The truth One more time for him. I had to bring him back.
Speaker 4:A true legend, a true gold in this shit Two more times. We can't bring him back. You know what I'm saying? Huh, too soon, especially not about no money. Nigga know what's up with me, what's up with we? I thought that was sweet. I've been doing this shit, man. It's like the more money I made, I had to deal with bigger problems. I made, I had to deal with bigger problems and I started burning sage just to keep the head up off me.
Speaker 4:Mama always told me pray. You know I did that often and I'm thinking God every chance that I get ain't in no coffin. Say you ain't felt no pain with kid. You ain't never stood out in the rain with kid, the money, any car, yeah, they came with kid me, nigga catching Rico's. You came bang with kid. I'm certified homie. You can't change for no bitch. All y'all got me did. They did my chain and my wrist. Say you love me, baby. Tap my name on your pen and I respect the hell, of course, but, girl, I told her that I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, it was literally like A lot of her college soundtrack Was for someone, most definitely. What if your daughter got raped? Would you want her to keep it? I soundtrack, most definitely. Did you hear?
Speaker 8:what that nigga just said. What if your daughter got raped?
Speaker 3:would you want her to keep it? He was a true legend. He was talking about like uh, reproductive organs and like, abortion rights and stuff he was going going into this right after. That is crazy well, rip to another legend, frankie, we just lost him. I forgot my bad. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying Going into this right after that is crazy.
Speaker 4:Well, RIP to another legend, Frankie. We just lost him. I forgot my bad. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to support the legends out here the cookouts will never be the same.
Speaker 7:You made me happy.
Speaker 3:This you can say Do you see what I did there? When he was talking about happiness in the beginning video?
Speaker 4:You stood right beside me. Yeah, do you see what I did there when he was talking about happiness in the beginning video? Should know I'm gonna make sure I'm right, girl, before I let go Alright, man.
Speaker 3:Rip to a legend man. We lost a lot of greats man. We did. We gonna talk about a few More into the show, but RIP Rich Homie Kwan, rip Frankie. Rip Rich Homie Kwan, rip Frank and Frankly Frankie. Mm-hmm. Rip James Earl Jones. You know, lost a lot of Legends. Mm-hmm. Light skin legend and James Earl Jones, respectfully. Uh All, right, you're now Listening to Talk. Fnf TV. I'm your host, rhetoric, and I'm, with my lovely and amazing and beautiful co-host, miss reality hi guys and we got a lot to get into.
Speaker 1:Today we can't even play around with you it's a long list, guys, just buckle up, let's get into it it's gonna be, this gonna be one of those ones.
Speaker 3:so vmas, like I said, we didn't even know this was happening, and this is like one of those experiences, too, where I was like looking at the timeline and I saw someone's tweet I really don't care to know on my timeline. Yeah. And she's talking about the VMAs and I was like baby, do you know VMAs tonight? She was clueless.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I had not one clue. We were literally about to record.
Speaker 3:Like we were about to go sit down and hit the record button and then we saw up for three hours, more hours, three, four hours, yeah, three hours and watched the entire vmas, um, and we got a lot of notes to get to. I mean, megan was hosting, which I thought was legit. Like rock nation is y'all, y'all, rock nation.
Speaker 1:They not taking a foot off of y'all.
Speaker 3:Next rock nation and their artists are going to be in your face, period and we're going to get into a little bit more why that's some uh, interesting uh choice uh also to uh. It felt like the old vmas, like it felt like back in the day vmas, like the pop stars were popping yeah, definitely the music was a lot more lively performances there were very budgets.
Speaker 1:There were good performances all across the board.
Speaker 3:Yeah, big money was being spent tonight, you know. But the pop girlies are back pop is back in full effect, like I'm not saying that it ever left, because people wouldn't hear that. Oh, we knew they were still.
Speaker 1:People were listening to it and making numbers, but it looks like now they're going to be a force in the industry I feel like after the generation of like lady gaga, katie perry there was like a lull in like there wasn't like a that's where hip-hop came up yeah, and there wasn't like a it pop girly, but now there's a bunch of sabrina carpenter, there's camilla cabello, there's chaperone there's there's so many like new pop girlies now and they're all talented in their own little like pockets and their own aesthetics, which is cool no, it was dope.
Speaker 3:It was dope, but also the looks everybody was then. They didn't come to play no chat.
Speaker 1:Oh, what did I say?
Speaker 4:paris hilton still got it. Oh, like I'm just saying like paris hilton still has.
Speaker 3:It is it's pretty evident. I was like she came. I was like girl, the coke did good on you, baby like it got you.
Speaker 1:It's not that paris hilton has the most expensive state-of-the-art biohacking spa in her home oh shit.
Speaker 3:So she's like.
Speaker 1:She's like the other white nigga that's trying to stay 18 she has pieces of equipment that cost upwards of like eighty thousand dollars that she just lays in and gets different lights or whatever, like I don't know the, the, the science that goes behind it that's good.
Speaker 3:That's good. Uh, pasteurization, that's good. Pasteurized milk right there, yeah, so that's what she's doing that's what's keeping her looking good.
Speaker 1:That's not raw milk is science that we can't afford.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's treated milk right there. Yeah, so I respect that.
Speaker 1:Put the put the hilton fortune on it, and then you know she married someone who's ridiculous too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was no other option, what you're gonna bring in a commoner into this home no, you're not gonna bear that seed ma'am. But no, uh, who else looked? Pretty good, I liked sabrina carpenter went the madonna look yeah, she had. She had on a dress that madonna wore back in the day and we had a little tiff about it when we were talking about it because I felt like it was a marilyn moreau inspired look yeah, it was definitely a marilyn inspired.
Speaker 1:Look, she was, but when sabrina did it it was a direct call back to mad, not Marilyn. But the whole thing in general was originally inspired by Marilyn.
Speaker 3:I mean, if we're talking about Sabrina Carpenter, I think she's probably up next for being the next Marilyn Monroe figure, taylor Swift figure, I think she can even be bigger.
Speaker 1:I don't think. After seeing video footage of Marilyn Monroe on the streets, I don't think people are going to get to her status at all.
Speaker 3:Well, that's other reasons.
Speaker 1:She, definitely she's an it girl. She's the next pop girly up next. Now let's keep talking about who look good really quickly. I love Taylor's red carpet look.
Speaker 3:It was good barely like taylor's looks, but she looked really good that felt very like earthy white girl did it like it felt like rogue little, earthy little gothy white girl.
Speaker 1:It it gave more goth than earthy. Um, it gave like. I don't know who she was wearing, but it looked like vivian westwood or like maybe versace.
Speaker 3:I'm not 100 sure I felt like I guess with like, let me see with it real quick like the sleeveless part and like the strapping. That's what kind of gave me a little bit more like the gothic yeah look and then like the plaid is where I went, like earth, because that's like farmer that's why I went with that.
Speaker 3:So yeah, but plaid would still fall under the like punk umbrella you're right, they do that with the, but it's usually the red, that's. Yeah, that was more of a traditional plaid who else, Meg looked good in the red carpet.
Speaker 1:On the red carpet she looked amazing.
Speaker 3:I did not like the Bob wig I mean her makeup and all that stuff was good. The Bob was. We could have went without that. Meg. I don't know when a woman like gets tall, like that she feels like she's just she's slightly too tall for that look. He feels like she's just she's slightly too tall for that look.
Speaker 1:I feel like, for let me show you the red carpet dress specifically. I don't know if the only other thing that she could have done is like a slick back ponytail maybe, but I don't know how that looks on Meg.
Speaker 3:But I think I know why she did that though.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 3:Because, look, she does the bang bob, look who was famous for that, that bang bob look.
Speaker 1:Oh, nicki, we'll get into that in just a moment. Yeah, but nikki's. Nikki's bob was an asymmetrical bob like it was giving, but definitely early 2000s period. This is a very sleek 2024 bob. I I still don't like it. On megan specifically, I wanted to talk about how meg I think she's definitely found her look. I don't know if y'all remember, but Meg used to pop out in that cut crease all the time and it was so harsh and it I don't know it split up her face. But then I guess she got, she got a new stylist and she got a new makeup artist, new hairstylist, and then she started doing like the very long voluminous, like curls, and then she started doing the big curly fro too, and that is her look, like meg looks amazing in big hair because she's a tall woman. You have to know your proportions. This bob specifically did not do it for me, but with the red carpet dress I feel like maybe you might have had no choice but to do that.
Speaker 3:I don't know right, so let's get into some of the awards. So Meg did win Best Trending Video. We also had SZA who won Best R&B.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So what I want to ask you is is there really any competition for SZA right now?
Speaker 1:Not on. So I was thinking about that. I think the only girl, the R&B girl, who would come close is victoria monet. This year okay this year who've released projects. Victoria monet would be the only girl who would be in competition with her, but sZA, there's nobody.
Speaker 3:I did not expect anybody else to win that that award other than sZA I think she's really one album away from just really cement herself in superstar status.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Her last few projects have been super duper successful.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And you just can't really deny her trajectory right now.
Speaker 1:It's really going up and then she keeps looking better and better. It's only up from here for SZA, which I love.
Speaker 3:I can't even think of anybody who's close second right now.
Speaker 1:No, because everybody else.
Speaker 3:That would be relevancy would be like afro beats people right now, like not someone who really falls in that r&b like a thames, yeah who kind of flirt, r&b and? Afro beats type stuff, but I don't see no one else. That's just an r&b act that's gonna be touching right now I can't think of anybody like not not janae janae.
Speaker 1:I don't know if she's released a project this year. I know she released like baby music, but that's messed up too that she didn't get.
Speaker 3:I see why she wasn't there, because that's messed up. She didn't get to do present it like on stage r&b. They didn't remember, they didn't let her come up, they didn't do it on stage, it was just like a yeah, but a lot of montage.
Speaker 1:they did a lot, you right, I'm not trying to say it's like a. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But R&B just seems to be getting shafted. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it usually does. R&b is an award that usually gets presented off screen at the Grammys.
Speaker 3:So one of them that was on screen, though, was Pop Artist of the Year.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Or Pop Song of the Year, which was Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah with um Espresso and so what?
Speaker 1:I was just?
Speaker 3:saying is like because she performed too right, yeah, she did, she performed. She was pretty good. I wasn't mad at it. I don't feel like she's probably the greatest performer but I think she's in her earlier years. I think she's still finding herself too, with it yeah because it's like I didn't hear too much of her really singing. It seemed like it was a lot of it because she was doing a lot of move and it was a lot of the voiceover yeah, you could tell that she.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a complete like lip-syncing moment yeah you can tell that she was singing live, but the the background vocals were very loud and it just takes away from it for me, like yeah, it's, you think I do one or the other for me. I hate when they try to sing over their vocals because, it just sounds bad as somebody at home it's odd, yeah, so I don't know how it sounds actually there in the concert, but at home.
Speaker 3:It sounds horrible, but I think that again she has a look, she's getting all the press, she's got love from all the other social media girl, I mean all the other pop girls. So I mean I think it's just inevitable. As long as she don't like pull up some crazy drug habit, I think we might, we might have that, uh, our next pop girl yeah, I think, uh her, it's between her and chapel roan um oh, let's bring her up.
Speaker 1:She also won uh, new artist of the year yeah, so chapel won artist of the year, and while she was, over tyler yeah I I thought tyler going to win, but then I was like no Chapel might win because the way she's been received this year, like everyone, absolutely loves her. I think she's a talented songwriter. I think her aesthetic is very specific. She reminds me of Lady Gaga. When I was watching her performance I was like, wow, she. I don't think I've ever seen anybody since Lady Gaga that I was like this could be the next Gaga.
Speaker 3:Like she did the whole Jonah arc aesthetic for her video and I enjoyed that. It kind of like told a little story of it. And you know it's funny where it's like that's just so like traditionally and like stereotypically, like the feminist archetype to use. But the way that she did it and spun it it felt fresh and original a little bit yeah, and then the outfit that she accepted the award in was like a knight's like undergarment.
Speaker 1:It was gorgeous um yeah, I can't wait to see what she looks like next year, because she's definitely going to be at the vmas next year too. With a bigger budget, with even more people knowing who she is, I think she, she's going to fully take over and I can't wait to see what her brain thinks of she is a lesbian. And she's a very like, huge ally and supporter of the LGBTQ community. She had Sasha Colby who is a drag queen. She's also trans. Bring her out Like she's very connected with the drag community.
Speaker 1:She shouted them out in her speech, love her.
Speaker 3:No, she's very connected with the drag community. She shouted them out in her speech love her. No, she did her thing with that. Uh, then also we have k-pop is definitely a cheat code. Like we listen, lisa yeah the fact that you think that you can come out to america with just a one name, being lisa like. Yo, you a bad chick like. And then her performance was dope.
Speaker 1:So let me tell you a little bit of something. A little something something about K-pop. Usually, k-pop idols train for like minimum of five, usually average seven to ten years before they debut. Their contracts are, however many times five, seven years in the group, and then if you're us, if you stand out enough in the group to become solo after your contract is over, then they'll do that. But to get to that point that lisa has gotten to was a decade of training and then another decade of being famous as fuck, while being perfect in front of um, the, the k Korean public in the entire world and having them fall in love with you, so much so that now you have a solo contract. She is a well-oiled machine of artistry.
Speaker 3:Yo, it's funny because I say it's a cheat code, because when you listen to, especially the song that she performed, it's like the best parts of like every other pop song that's ever came out. Like she had like Christina Aguilera parts that sounded like she had some runs, that kind of sounded like katie perry and stuff like even her look a little bit was kind of like uh, an homage to katie perry, if you want to go with that it kind of gave me britney.
Speaker 1:It was more britney. No, yeah, I can see that too. Yeah, they did that.
Speaker 3:They were, they've shown britney love too, because they did the whole thing with megan, where she had, uh, the snake and she started oh yeah, meg had the snake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they did the whole. Somebody come get the snake?
Speaker 3:so they did like they brought a lot of images to the old uh vma. So that's why I felt, like it just felt like that, it you know refreshing, like it wasn't I like stale shit.
Speaker 1:I like watching k-pop performances. They're they're so crisp and professional that like there's no way that you can't enjoy watching them do what they do and then you know our girl taylor.
Speaker 3:She cleaned up video of the year yeah her post malone they usually do.
Speaker 1:They won the first award in the last one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she won the first award in the last award yeah, open it and close it.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, that's how you got to do it, like big taylor.
Speaker 3:Taylor is the industry no big taylor, you got to put respect on, all right. So was there any other awards?
Speaker 1:yeah, um, awards before we Awards. No, there's no other awards that I wanted to get into.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's get into the performances, because there were a lot. We're not going to touch on some. We're not going to get into all of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not all of them.
Speaker 3:Just the ones like Camila.
Speaker 1:She left a lot to be desired, left a lot of heat on the plate. I did not like the song.
Speaker 3:But then also too, like the fact that like you were being promoted the whole time during the VMAs. You were on that commercial like 600 times. It was like a Bacardi commercial or something you literally with the main alcohol sponsorship, and then you give us that it was so flat.
Speaker 1:And then came out and gave us nothing. We were starving, they said.
Speaker 3:Lisa did her thing. She was dope.
Speaker 1:Lisa's amazing. No, she was. She was amazing. Uh, let's get into this megan part. Uh, it took I just wanted to say it took the award shows a little while to embrace k-pop. If you are ever on twitter, you know them. K-pop stands they be, they're rampant like, they're very passionate and I'm surprised that it took, like last year, I think. Um, they started inviting k-pop idols to perform at the american award shows. I don't know why it took y'all so long, but I'm glad y'all are finally doing it last part, bro, we did forget one award.
Speaker 3:Uh, tyler did win afro beats award oh, yeah, so what I wanted to ask. The question is because she went on stage and in her acceptance speech she made a concerted effort to shout out all the afro beats uh people who were nominated but then said, hey, afro beats isn't the only music that comes out of africa it's not one umbrella, like all african music is in afro beats.
Speaker 3:She said yeah and she was basically, I feel like she was saying and communicating to the world that she is an afro beats. So would you feel like that?
Speaker 1:I, because I don't, I don't want to like get into it too too much because I'm not sure what all of the genres of african music are. I would say that maybe Tyla leans towards I'm a piano a little bit more because of the drums and bass and the beat of the music that she usually makes and the producers that she works with are usually I'm a piano producers. So she probably got up there and was like I don't make Afro beats, I make I'm a piano, which is a completely different genre of music. Beats I make I'm a piano, which is a completely different genre of music. And then there are um congolese music sounds completely different. It's more like string heavy. There's different sectors of african music. So, yeah, she was like y'all, this is um progress, us having our own like category. But I just want y'all to know that, like it's not an umbrella and we there's lots of variety in africa's a big ass continent and I just, oh my god, I love tyler so much.
Speaker 3:She is such a doll. When she got up there she said guys, you know, I can't hold the the award, it is so heavy yeah, she's like.
Speaker 1:You know how I am with awards because she's done that at the she did that at the last award show too I was just like oh, my, you know somebody take that from her please. You know, it was funny. Little nas x, she, she was like handing it over and hallie was just standing there like bitch. I'm not taking that shit from you either. I just I'm dainty too. I just gave birth and then little nas took a little too long because he was like I'm a homosexual see, and that's the problem.
Speaker 3:You think, just because you take it mean you can't be a gentleman. Just because you gay don't mean you cannot not be a gentleman.
Speaker 1:Like that should have been the the first thing you did, little nas x it took him a little while to realize that he's the one that should be grabbing that, and man you glad, glad that that shit that I saw about you was old but then chapel, you know, because she, when she was accepting her award, she had, uh, her notes in her diary and she put her award on the ground instead of trying to pass it to somebody. I was like, oh, that's.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like that, I like that. Uh, little nas x, you disappoint me, man. I went out on a limb with you a while ago about your, your career, making me look stupid. I'm just gonna say that, making me look like an asshole yeah, your music takes are usually no I'll be. I'll be somewhere in the good realm of shaky ground. So hey, I was.
Speaker 1:I was expecting your political takes and your like social media and like pop culture.
Speaker 3:Takes on point, but music whatever, all right, so we got to get into. I think it's probably what the biggest performance like outside of, like the two legacy acts megan. Okay, so megan went out, she did her thing she did.
Speaker 1:Megan's been working out. She looked good.
Speaker 3:The voice control is there, the dancing is there, the body is there I want to say this, though, before we get into what she did on stage, I want to say this so the last two years, the vmas have been hosted by nikkij.
Speaker 1:I did not realize that the last two VMAs has been hosted by her.
Speaker 3:I remember last year was hosted by her and the year before that yeah.
Speaker 1:And I didn't enjoy her hosting last year, by the way.
Speaker 3:Oh, I mean one of the years we liked it. Last year we did like it because we have it on tape where we talked about remember she was going crazy, she was shitting on all the girls was before the album came out what was it the year before?
Speaker 1:I didn't like probably we didn't have the podcast.
Speaker 3:Okay, we didn't do the podcast, but last year you and I were. We had our video, we was chipping because he was shitting on all the rap girlies, she was being messy as fuck and megan came back and I think this is strategic because, like I said, she came with that bob a somewhat yeah she performed his yeah, and she performed his. But I said she kind of looked like, uh, nikki with the bob and stuff, oh yeah with the kind of look that she came with to start off.
Speaker 3:Don't hey, this is obvious shit. She did the snake shit with the anaconda, which is uh nikki's uh song, going into her his song like yeah, but her, her entire rollout has been reptile themed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean, that's still a nod to, and then that's a nod to britney, not true, but that's also a nod, because she did the anaconda like yeah I feel like that point specifically. Man, I'm trying to tell you this was a attack.
Speaker 1:But we're gonna get into about this whole nikki situation just a little bit, but how big this this goes she performed his and then she didn't perform a lot of it, but she definitely made sure to get that megan's law bar in there no, she made sure we heard that was the thing she said was she enunciated. Yeah, she said it with her chest. Don't be mad at megan, they be mad at megan's law period.
Speaker 3:So yeah, she definitely went at you, nikki. Uh, I think that is just my one of the biggest takeaways just from the vma is just seeing like megan doing this. This is a power play we can't act like it's not. She is vying like she. She is vying for that top spot of being the number one rap girl and I think at this point, right now, it's pretty evident like it's hers to take yeah like nikki, either hers or gloria.
Speaker 3:Nikki still has a fan base. Nikki is still dominating and doing her thing, but I think just due to a lot of the financial issues, the fact that a lot of people are dumping money into megan- she has a lot of money.
Speaker 3:It's really clear that the stuff that nikki minaj is saying and we'll get into it in our, you know, later topics. But it just shows like when you look at this whole uh vmas and just see like the little things, the nods, the, the little attack she was doing here and there, like it was just so evident that yo, yo it's, I'm coming for you, yeah, and it's up and it's stuck this beef doesn't seem to be done.
Speaker 1:Meg was just. I don't know. I don't remember which. I think it was a rolling stone article, but she was just. She did. She just did an interview where she talked about the fact that she don't know what the fuck nik Minaj problem was and still does not know to this day. She was like I don't know what the beef was.
Speaker 3:I mean, maybe telling a 40 year old woman is she going to keep her first child that she was pregnant with could probably rub her the wrong way, but you know as a young girl, you know, I feel like your instinct is to be like kill the baby.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I know that's my instinct and I'm almost 30 years old. I'll be forgetting that we are old enough to take care of children. I'm like, oh my God, what are you going to do? Should you kill it?
Speaker 3:Oh shit, you're married, that's just a sick thing. To just say like off, rip too young, that's freaking nuts. That's just naturally where my mind goes. All right, so then they did the vanguard award. Yes, the video vanguard award.
Speaker 1:And man, my girl, katie perry this man is in love with katie perry I've never told you that.
Speaker 3:yeah, she learned for the first day that I actually have like katie perry is like kind of like my under out of my top five of white women, but I have a on the low ups. She's just so pop to me when. I see her. I just feel pop music. All of her songs. She see me singing them. I was going crazy.
Speaker 1:He stood up during Katy's performance and then he did one of these. I had to get into it.
Speaker 3:I was feeling it.
Speaker 1:He was singing Firework. I was feeling it. He was singing firework. I was like I am dry.
Speaker 3:No, I had to get into that and I think another thing that made her upset too, because when we go out and stuff I'm not really like a dancing kind of guy. No he never dances to anything and she saw me like kick a kick, a step or two to Katy Perry.
Speaker 1:Like. I don't like that. You can't dance to Haitian music. You don't even try to dance to Caribbean music at all, but this white woman make you move. It's safer music.
Speaker 3:I feel disrespected If white people can dance to it. I feel comfortable dancing to it. I feel disrespected. So, that's why I don't have an issue with that. I get it all. But Katy Perry is like one of my favorite pop girlies. Like I don't really talk about it a lot, I don't bring it up a lot, but when her music comes on I get happy.
Speaker 1:I just feel like it's gay that you have a favorite pop girly bro when I was a kid.
Speaker 3:Is that toxic when I was a young man?
Speaker 1:she don't have a favorite pop girly fair when I was a young man.
Speaker 3:She told me she kissed a girl and she liked it.
Speaker 1:That was very salacious I was aroused. That was salacious. I was like lesbianism. People don't realize like no, that was really like an issue like just think about like that was really like a conflict.
Speaker 3:At the time, people were upset about that song being on the radio. Now we're my pussy pink and my booty hose brown literally cardi said come down my throat like it's, it's, we've gone to a hole, she said she, she eat it while it's a gummy or whatever right yeah she eat it. Uh, what she said. She eat.
Speaker 1:What dick I don't, I don't know which bar she was talking about, she eat it uh I don't know which bar you're referring to no, she was talking about one where she said she eat it while it's gummy, or she she called it.
Speaker 3:I forgot what she called the dick, though she called it something but I'm just saying that's just how far we've. We've kind of gone here like we we've definitely. We've definitely strayed very far from god but katie perry did an amazing performance, man, she did?
Speaker 1:she brought out dochi for her first um which was dope her first song. I did not know her and dochi had a song together. It's um a sample of gypsy woman, which is one of my favorite songs ever. We have to do our like songs that should be played at our funeral list. We have to do that soon. That's gonna be on the list but, gypsy woman gyps. It's a sample to gypsy woman. Dochi looked fucking amazing, no she okay she was stunning, she, she.
Speaker 1:There was this one time, one moment, where she was laying on the ground and then katie was like laying behind her and then she did a little twerk and I was like, oh, that ass is moving like water and you would think that it's real yeah, I mean, we did see that video where she confirmed that it some alterations she went on ricky and denzel's podcast and she told them that she had just got work done and I was like bitch, that looks amazing.
Speaker 1:She already has super thick thighs, so it doesn't look unnatural at all. Also, I swear to god, if she I am going to assume she went to sisa's doctor I mean, that's where you kind of go with everybody now because if you have direct access to sisa to ask her personally who did her bbl and you can go to that doctor. That's the only doctor you should be going to.
Speaker 3:Tde, tde got the good doctors yeah like top doctor education. It would be obscene if she went to any other tde. Got the good doctors, yeah like top doctor education.
Speaker 1:It would be obscene if she went to any other doctor other than the the same person who did scissors work I mean that is some of the best work.
Speaker 3:It's a good architect man like I mean. The guy was a sculptor that the doctor he really was.
Speaker 1:He took his time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's an artist way better than god could have did. Oh my god, I'm just saying like he got god wiped down I physically did not know how to react to that. And then katie, she gave an amazing speech after she got her award.
Speaker 3:I'm just like anytime someone gets an award right after they perform, I'm always like yo, you're fucking dope because, like I would be exhausted, I wouldn't have nothing to say, I would be like yo get me off this stage. But no, just to be the queen of pop for my generation. I just greatly appreciate Katy Perry. I'm sorry, my wife, that you had to learn that your husband had this odd obsession with this white woman.
Speaker 1:You know who else I learned. My husband has an odd obsession with.
Speaker 3:You knew about this, though, lenny Kravitz, that's my man's, that's my no homo. That's my man crush homo. That's not homo, homo. My boy went crazy.
Speaker 1:My boy went crazy was wearing a sparkly top that you could see his nipples through, and he talked about no homo, that's my man crush.
Speaker 3:No very homo that nigga was up there had the glasses going going crazy, had the frilly feathers like he had the feather boa. He was very lenny kravitz out definitely like he showed lil wayne how you supposed to rock the unmet, unmet dreads like it. It was still. It was dirty but it was. It was a dirtyish look, but it also looked clean. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It was a rough look oh my god, I don't like when people call locks dirty at all. I think it's just a slippery slope. Wayne's dreads though. Okay, dumb shit compared to them they're not even just dirty, they're um, they're failing, structurally unsound it's just not.
Speaker 3:It's just not a good, good group of hair.
Speaker 1:It's like the locks are on coke too.
Speaker 3:Man lenny just gave it up so crazy, like just his first performance, just doing the rock. Look like just going straight out. Like I said, it just felt like back in the day, like early 2000s. Actually it really felt like mid-2010s being made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how live it was. Lenny, ate it up.
Speaker 3:And then he, you know know, gave show quavo a little love. I'm not really a fan of that song. I love the original. I'm not a fan, I love the original. I don't know why you felt like you needed to do that, lenny. If you needed money, like you could have just asked, we would have probably bought an album or something from you, lenny sounded great he sounded great, he was amazing, he was amazing so um who else ll cool? Jay performed yo that nigga was out of pocket like starting off with head sprung.
Speaker 1:I was pissed.
Speaker 3:It was like the opposite side of the coin for him you know, I just hate it was yeah, it was most 100, because I'm sitting there like bro, like head sprung to start off, but that's one of his biggest songs.
Speaker 1:No one's ever called you big ellie, they call me big ellie. What, what big jelly?
Speaker 3:and then that nigga over there like he's a fucking giant on stage he is ripped like he's literally the same kind of breath control he had when he was 18 which brought me to think about why the fuck little wayne would not be able to do this.
Speaker 1:That nigga has no breath control that's not fair.
Speaker 3:No, because that nigga ll's on steroids, yo.
Speaker 1:That's why he didn't take his shirt off I'd rather a nigga on stage on steroids versus lean.
Speaker 3:No, I'm watching no but I'm watching ll and I'm thinking to myself and maybe I need to say pause to this. But I'm thinking to myself, like you was the no shirt nigga. So like, why don't you have your shirt off right now, if you still still that guy? And I'm like, oh, I know why. Because you have breasts, because of the, the injections now because he can't.
Speaker 1:He can't take the shirt off.
Speaker 3:No, more them shits looking a little like fat joe can't he just go to drake's doctor? But you'll still have it look.
Speaker 1:It'll still look like it's been worked on, the titties worked on, but it'll still look like it though he's gonna have the boob scars. Have a line there and you know it's just not gonna look like what you wanted to look like yeah, I wanted to ask you something, though even if you're still in shape, should you be the nigga with the shirt off as a 60 year old man?
Speaker 1:if it's lenny, is lenny got the shirt off I feel like rock stars have a completely different set of rules. Lenny ain't on the sauce, though either.
Speaker 3:He's never been whoa he don't need it.
Speaker 1:He probably got. He probably on oh you, probably. You see, you mean steroids. Yeah, I mean he's probably done like drugs in general.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I mean like he's probably done, like I'm pretty sure. No, I'm talking about lenny. He's just like he's probably done, like testosterone I'm but I wouldn't put that past lenny, where he's done things to keep the energy up yeah but I mean I don't think he was like sitting there taking like the super duper let me get my arms and shit swole like lo kujo no, rock stars don't need to be swole, I know I know I again this is all coming from my, out of my, out of my head.
Speaker 3:You know it's my head, can't it's? You know it's me talking on my ass. I feel like at least for a good three to five years he was juicing, like during that like early 2000s run when he was doing like deliver us from eva the movies and shit like that. Yeah, he was licking his lips because he was fucking trying to get the testosterone back in there ll cool.
Speaker 1:J had a run for a while he was.
Speaker 3:He was the, the sex symbol yeah, I mean, that's what kind of like his 30s was, basically him being a a grown sexist, that's why I was just so weird in his 30s, that's I mean he was more of like the lover boy in his 20s, but like he was actually like that grown man that was gonna take you out and show you come here, baby, let me show you what it is. You know he was gonna do you all that, but overall I mean I'm not mad at his performance. He did good yeah I didn't realize.
Speaker 3:Uh, public enemy was def jam. I thought they were somebody else, but that's I guess yeah, they're def jam but uh, it was just a good performance overall yeah we didn't do, head sprung stop doing head sprung he's not gonna stop
Speaker 1:doing that. I hate head sprung and I hate switch this is the fourth time you've said that on this show. Anytime, I thought the nigga wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 3:He's remember the last time he performed I said thank you for not using doing head sprung on a stage like vmas, I feel like he.
Speaker 1:It's inevitable that he was going to do his I'm never calling you big ellie let's stop saying head sprung, um, uh, who else came out? So anita came out and performed, and she was initially um assisted, no, um, what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 3:for she was talking about her performance, or yeah she.
Speaker 1:She was there with dj khaled and fat joe and fat joe or titty joe.
Speaker 1:You saw that video clip with him with the fucking breast yeah, so um and that nasty beard the first song that they did was a song that I guess Anita, dj Khaled and Fat Joe have together. I hate it. I've said on this show that I don't like when Africans, african Afrobeat artists, do the like hip hop, poppy the poppy stuff, because I like, I like the sound that you guys have. Originally I had the same sentiment with this. It's not just afro beats artists. I have this sentiment with it's the, the, the spanish artist too, like the latin artist. I want, I like the sound that you have.
Speaker 3:it sounds better I mean yo, that was my first time hearing this song, it sounds like a watered down version like it sounds like a cash grab.
Speaker 1:It doesn't sound authentic, genuinely what you would give to us.
Speaker 3:I don't like it it was my first time listening to that song, so like when I see a painted on five o'clock shadow, I don't really think I want to listen to the song that's coming out.
Speaker 1:That individual accompanied was the word that I was fucking looking for.
Speaker 3:Accompanied okay, I said assisted yeah, I didn't know what you was meant by that yeah but uh, no it. Fat joke, bro, like if you can't grow it yourself, dog, please stop painting on that just give us the round, shiny ball. If you wasn't, if you wasn't afraid to show your titties, you shouldn't be afraid to walk outside without a beard yeah it shouldn't be that much of a problem yeah, not at all, uh, but I think um speaking of titties.
Speaker 3:I think we have one more performance to talk about speaking of titties, glorilla had a that's what I wanted to get into glorilla so she, um, she looked great, I think, um, on the on the stage of the vmas.
Speaker 1:This is the best I've ever seen her look on stage with the, the coat and everything. I love the look. It looked good on her proportion wise, it was great. It was high energy. The breath control was there. She was moving around. It was visually captivating. I liked everything. Um, at one point she's like this, and then it took me a little bit to realize. But her shirt is like hanging open and I was like, oh shit, she's having a wardrobe malfunction we almost had a janet jackson moment.
Speaker 1:We almost got to see them things boy.
Speaker 3:Some things is all right we agreed on that.
Speaker 7:Remember we talked about that them.
Speaker 3:Things is all right. That's all I'm saying. But I will say this I feel like she heard our last show, when we talked about her performance and how like she got overshadowed by sexy red because she did not play with you, hoes tonight no, she, it was a very well put together performance. She, she heard that little. She saw that little pad comment you put on on her on her post sexy red and she came out with that moose knuckle.
Speaker 1:She came out with that moose knuckle, let you know I feel like last year we were saying that sexy red's performance outshined glorilla. In this year I've been seeing clips of sexy red performing and I feel like she's she's at a stagnant point right now in her artist development like it's, it's. It hasn't been getting better. I literally saw a clip. She was doing a little kim thing and then she literally got on the ground and started rolling around with her finger guns yeah, it's.
Speaker 3:I was like this bitch is dumb, like it's getting embarrassing. Now it's, it's, it's she never. She didn't take the opportunity and I think maybe because this was never part of her plan but to like subvert the narrative or subvert, like the, the trope that she was doing enough to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's really just a hood bitch, yeah, and I think that's just kind of gonna be like her breaking point and the fact that glorilla has been able to progress and move forward and actually shown artist development and like to the fact of like what carisha said her label was telling her like she's actually grown.
Speaker 1:Unlike you know carisha was, she's glorilla has actually grown with her art and I think she's taking that hood, the hood chick role from sexy red and it's got to be really obvious in this fourth quarter that's why, when we had this conversation last, I was like, yes, they are both the hood bitch, but sexy red is the hood bitch who gets fucked into the gang and glorilla is the hood bitch who fights into the gang yeah and there is a difference between those two.
Speaker 1:And I feel like we're seeing that difference a year later. And I was right, because sexy just doesn't give. Like there's, it's a very authentic hood, ghetto, dumb girl. Like it's, it's not an act, we know this now.
Speaker 3:It's not an act, this is this is who she is, that is, this is her iq 100. So I think that's pretty much everything I have for the vma's. Was anything else you want to get into?
Speaker 1:um oh uh. I saw glorilla. She was saying that, um, somebody was saying that the label is over sexualizing glorilla. And then she came out. She was like damn bitch, I can't be sexy, I can't, I don't want to, I can't want to be sexy. And and it's like, yeah, let her. She didn't have money before to get the boobs and the ass and all that.
Speaker 1:If you give a woman the choice, to build a body to be shaped like a little boy, which I can say that because I am that I'm, I'm skinny, I don't. I'm not curvaceous like I've always been thin. Because I am that I'm, I'm skinny, I don't. I'm not curvaceous like I've always been thin. If you give us the the option between being stick thin and having carbs.
Speaker 3:We're gonna choose carbs, don't do that don't patronize me.
Speaker 4:Don't patronize me, let me get my shit off without patronizing. You got bump. You got bump.
Speaker 1:Don't do that but like, if you gave me a choice, I would prefer curves every single time. And if you gave me enough money to go get a reputable doctor to give me a boob job or something that I know I wasn't going to die, I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
Speaker 3:All right, so shout out to Glorilla.
Speaker 1:And that's it, that's everything.
Speaker 3:All the girls is getting work out there. Shout out to the VMAs for, like, actually putting money into your product. Before we get into our next topic man, that serious shit panned out, man.
Speaker 6:I'm out here looking crazy.
Speaker 3:I'm really upset because I didn't move the finances over the way I should have.
Speaker 1:You need to trust your gut.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know what was really going on, but yeah. Jumped up man, you know what was really going on. But yeah, um jumped up man. They did a merger with uh liberty media or whatever. And now, this shit went from three dollars and thirty cents to twenty eight dollars and going up it's on its way up, hey man that's why you gotta listen to us, man, I do the science over here.
Speaker 1:I'm giving y'all free game like I'm really out here that guy so yeah, like two weeks ago he told y'all warren buffett was really out here, that guy so yeah, like two weeks ago he told y'all Warren Buffett was buying Sirius and all that and it was gonna be something. Something's happening over there and now we know there was a whole merger.
Speaker 3:Something happened you're welcome something definitely happened you're welcome. So Super Bowl was back. Uh, the announcement was brought back. So the Super Bowl announcement is back and they have announced Kendrick Lamar as being, uh, the new performer, for he's gonna be headlining the super bowl this year. Uh, this is the right now, according to all reports. Now, this is jay-z's last, uh, super bowl.
Speaker 3:That's not gonna be the rock nation, uh provisions or whatnot? Also two here. I also wanted to ask because you know, like I said, with the last five years we've had, you know, rihanna, usher, j-lo and, uh, what's her name? Shakira? Yeah, also we had the weekend, dr dre and eminem and then dr dre and the la set which kendrick was on. I think that needs to be noted yeah uh, because I just him.
Speaker 3:Being a two-timer, the super bowl is gonna be insane but uh what I wanted to ask you is like what do you think was your favorite? Or you want to go through all five of them and rank them like what was your super bowl moments that you like in the halftime performances?
Speaker 1:from the ones that jay-z from all jay-z, because I think hold on before we get into that.
Speaker 3:The reason why rock nation did get this deal was in the wake of the colin kaepernick situation, so I think that's important note for some of the conversations we're going to have like this yeah, no, we're definitely going to bring that up again. Definitely strong-armed, the NFL, and there's been reports that the Roc Nation NFL have been at odds through this process Because, like I said, they did this as a race, you know, dei type situation. I don't want to use that term or phrase, but it kind of fits in this one. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But, so there's been a lot of contentions in it and in regards to like parties not being heard and, you know, just being strong, armed a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So out of the out of all of the halftime performances that Jay-Z has coordinated, Usher is definitely my favorite by far.
Speaker 3:OK, I'm with that by far.
Speaker 1:I think I was a little bit, a tiny bit let down by Rihanna's performance, but she was pregnant. She, she, yeah, like she couldn't move the way that we wanted her to.
Speaker 3:So see, I'm a little biased with mine because, even though I don't feel like it was his best performance, because he just did a performance, uh, this past week, that was stellar, but the weekend is probably still my favorite he has. He has a place in my heart just because I love the weekend. It was the pandemic year, uh, so that's just where my, where, my place is, but, uh, usher was was amazing. Usher was amazing, it was. It was phenomenal to skate and the fact that he got so much in so little time he had so many hits like and he could have keys, was on stage with him like he could have performed for another 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:He could support as long as he wanted yeah, like usher got hit after hit after hit, that was definitely my favorite Super Bowl halftime performance.
Speaker 3:And then again Rihanna. Rihanna and the J-Lo Shakira one were a little lackluster for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the J-Lo and Shakira. They brought out Bad Bunny, j Balvin, emi Munoz. It was kind of just like a. I called it the salsa bowl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was definitely what it was, but actually it was a, but there's actually a salsa ball in college too. Oh I think it's something like that. But so LA is definitely my second. So it's Weekend LA, and then, well, no, excuse me, weekend Usher LA.
Speaker 1:Okay, I would say Weekend. I mean no, usher LA probably Dre for you.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Dre.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dre, next definitely, and then Rihanna, okay so, uh, like I said, it has been, it has been a success, I would. I would say overall, just at least from fan support, people have been enjoying it definitely yeah, but it gets a little tricky with this no whites but it gets tricky with this new performance right here, with him picking Kendrick Lamar. Do you let's just ask this, the the, the question that just needs to be asked do you feel like he is a Super Bowl headlining act on his own?
Speaker 1:I don't know if he is yet, because Super Bowl acts are usually legacy acts and I don't think Kendrick is a legacy act yet.
Speaker 3:I think, he's still in the like uptick yeah, his trajectory is still going up yeah, so, um, I think it's a little bit early, but let's be honest, even three years ago, when he was on stage I think it was three years, three years ago when he was performing with dr drain on him, we didn't sit here and be like, oh yeah, like he's supposed to be there yeah that wasn't like to me.
Speaker 3:We was there because you knew dr drake. We knew dr drake was the reason why you were on the super bowl. There was no other time in history, at least at this point you have a very strong connection that he would be the the main person yeah, to be a headline of super bowl, and we have to be honest with this too.
Speaker 1:It's because of not like us it's definitely because of not like us and pop out and friends yeah, well, that that also.
Speaker 3:I think that was also kind of part of the whole rollout for this, because that's what it feels like, like this has been a long rollout of cementing kendrick as not only the winner of the drake beef but also like kind of just a, not a changing of a guard, but I think it's like, oh, at least a faux, a faux version of that, like they're trying to show us a changing of the guard, but I don't think the people do you think that?
Speaker 1:what do you mean by changing of the guard, like he's? They're trying to say, being the the guy?
Speaker 1:they're trying to say like oh, drake is done, it's, we're putting a pin in him no, I think that's what it's saying by doing this I think that kendrick and the type of artist he is and the content of his music, like he does have the, the hits and stuff, but in general like his he can't be the guy. He's one of the guys and he's probably more lyrically talented than the guy, but the guy has to be someone who's more palatable to the masses, like drake that's why I say it's a faux.
Speaker 3:This is a faux experience. Yeah, this is something they're trying to paint for us, but isn't really reality no, but there I don't.
Speaker 1:I just don't think that the industry would try to make a nigga like kendrick the guy.
Speaker 3:He don't give a fuck about a lot of this stuff like he's not outside, he's not rubbing elbows with people, that much like but he's doing, he's, but he's really doing what they need him to do, though I think honestly, in this day and age, that might be the perfect pawn, because you already see now, they did the announcement earlier this week. He didn't drop a single. Today.
Speaker 1:He did Untitled.
Speaker 3:Going at Ack and Drake pretty much in there.
Speaker 1:There are a couple bars in there that you could assume are about Ack or about Drake.
Speaker 3:And I'm just going to say this felt like a Drake-ish record, Not the way that it sounds per se, like the layers of it's just a beat. You're rapping over the beat and you're talking about what's going on in a.
Speaker 1:That's fucking hip-hop.
Speaker 3:No, I mean just, you sound crazy, no no drake would talk about what's going on in his situation and he would do it in a very. I mean it's still. That's literally rap and I'm staying and I'm saying that he's still pulling out. This is pulling from one of drake's cars no, this is.
Speaker 1:When have we ever seen, when have we?
Speaker 3:ever seen kendrick put out music where it's just a beat and him just rapping on one you don't listen to kendrick I'm asking a question untitled, unmastered was bunch, a bunch of that it was just him going one verse.
Speaker 1:Yes, not one verse.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, this was just one verse but there are.
Speaker 1:There are definitely kendrick songs where he doesn't have hooks.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying this is just a hook and verse type of situation. That's the only reason I'm giving some kind of credence to he's kind of mirroring, mirroring drake, kendrick.
Speaker 1:Kendrick has that definitely felt like kendrick has so many songs where he's just spitting the whole time. Yeah, but that felt like a timestamp record and then you can say that that's a, that's more of a wayne thing, I would say the drake thing.
Speaker 3:Wayne did it with other people's beats. This was like something that's probably not going to be a single. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like, say, he covered arty with black air force ones but that's that's kendrick, that's kendrick's bag I'm not saying when we when we first started listening to it, I was like, oh, this is very kendrick. That's what I got from it.
Speaker 3:I was like this is very authentically kendrick and I and that's what I was trying to, and my point was not that this didn't sound like drake would do this is just a similar path and what he kind of does when he's winning a race or when he's on top of an opponent, he'll do where these drops and these singles around big moments to kind of flex on his competition that's what I meant by that, okay uh, but also too here.
Speaker 3:Uh, we got to talk about the hypocrisy a little bit with this promo in front of the american flag. This is our black messiah hold on.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to talk about the black air forces. That was hilarious. He put beat up black air forces as the cover. Not only am I not new to this, I'm true to this. I've done crime before of this caliber, successfully, and I will do it again. That's what he meant by that. Whatever it is, I've done this before, I'm good at it and I'm gonna do it again and I'm gonna stomp you the fuck out.
Speaker 3:That's what I got from that drake, we're gonna pull some black air force energy is heinous, I hope drake post a picture with him. Some white forces on some g. Some g was g fabos, that's what they call it?
Speaker 1:no, he gotta post like gucci flip. You gotta correct me hold on.
Speaker 3:What do they call it now?
Speaker 1:g fazos I actually don't know, that's what the kids was calling my thing air forces yeah because, we used to call them forces when we was kids that's some maryland, that shit.
Speaker 3:No that was down here oh okay, that's some south ass shit.
Speaker 1:I just know that's not a new york thing I'm uptown right, yeah, we call them uptowns. Um, yeah, I didn't. I didn't know that air forces were called anything other than I know chicago people was calling them g fazos because he was trying to make them.
Speaker 3:You know he was trying to make a part of his brand, so that's what they call him but no we gotta stay on this topic, right yeah? So I said this is a little hypocrisy because he's in front of american flag taking this. He trying to act like they're saying there's no round twos, but then the whole promo is around his beef with.
Speaker 1:Drake, yeah, the Super Bowl promo and I just had.
Speaker 3:I found a video. Hold on, let me pull it up. I found a video where somebody was kind of breaking it down a little bit, I didn't see the Super Bowl promo, alright so here it is right here, where they saw five things that people didn't catch Five things you might have missed in.
Speaker 6:Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl announcement. Most people caught that Kendrick performing at the Super Bowl was the ultimate response to first-person shooter.
Speaker 4:Me and Drizzy this shit like the Super Bowl Big as the Super Bowl Most also caught that.
Speaker 6:Kendrick addresses recent speculation that Drake has been preparing for a rematch.
Speaker 11:We will win game two.
Speaker 6:You know, preparing for a rematch, but what you might have missed is that this set seems inspired by the iconic scene from the classic film Patton, where the decorated war general gives one of the most famous speeches in history. This speech aligns perfectly with Kendrick's angle that Drake is a foreigner and a subtle rebuttal to Drake's claim that I am a war general, seasoned in preparation.
Speaker 4:My jacket is covered in medals, honor and decoration.
Speaker 6:Patton's speech even ends by referencing Louisiana, the very state Kendrick is performing in. You won't have to say I shoveled shit in Louisiana. Within this dual theme of military and football, kendrick appears to be assuming the role of coach or field general. He's teaching someone, the plays the X's and O's, he stands at the 50-yard line because you know, and he launches a total of six shots. For the sixth, god.
Speaker 3:He then ends by saying you gotta make sure you catch him with the hands open like that. We running real routes. You gonna be messing up.
Speaker 6:Kendrick is facetiously schooling drake on how to win. He's teaching him the routes because, like he said in 616, I don't like this young.
Speaker 4:This is disgusting. I'm gonna teach you how to win.
Speaker 7:No this is not it or not.
Speaker 6:There's even more layers in the ad, like why kendrick says wear your best dress too, even if you're watching from home I dissect this and much more in the full breakdown episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're not getting to get that shit off, just dissect. I'm not gonna let you throw an ad on our show but, no, um, it was just very clear that this is part of the round two. You can't say there's no round two. You, you know this war goes on forever I don't think it's a round two.
Speaker 1:I think it's a victory lap. I think it's a um. That's what the pop-out show was. I think it's a victory lap.
Speaker 3:I think it's a. That's what the pop out show was.
Speaker 1:I think it's a bragging rights.
Speaker 3:This is what the pop out show was man All right? So let's just be honest.
Speaker 1:It was definitely a pop out, was definitely rubbing it in Drake's face, but then I feel like the Super Bowl is him like running around with the trophy, like wow.
Speaker 3:You know, ok, the only way I I'm gonna feel like this is him with any level of autonomy, and this is it is so funny the way I feel like this, because it kind of goes, uh, not hand in hand, it's not hand in hand with my, my idea around this. I don't feel like he wants to perform, not like us, like I don't feel like he wants to go up in there and shade uh drake or anyway call him yeah, do all that extra shit.
Speaker 3:I also feel like he knows he has to perform it, but I also feel like they're not going to let him get off the pedophile stuff they're definitely gonna have to bleep that out but do you feel like my? Actually this is what I had. Do you feel like he has to perform that outright?
Speaker 1:he has to perform it. Yes, outright.
Speaker 3:Does he have?
Speaker 1:that's the reason you're here and that's what I feel like.
Speaker 3:But people are saying if he doesn't say at least certified lover boy, certified pedophile, then we've, we've lost the plot he's.
Speaker 1:He's gonna say certified lover boy, certified like he's gonna bleep it out, but I think he's gonna perform it are we gonna get a minor then?
Speaker 3:yeah, because I feel like we have to get the wop, wop, wop yeah, we're gonna get a minor because that's a chord.
Speaker 1:That's not you know like. I know how the bar is set up, but that's a chord. That's not a word that you need to bleep out by the. What the ffcc? The fcc is gonna make them bleep out?
Speaker 3:pedophile probably, but not a minor my thing is this, and I agree with what Amal said this too as well If they allow him to completely disrespect Drake on that stage, this is a coordinated attack. This is. Everybody is against this man.
Speaker 1:My thing is, my theory is right in the 100%. What the fuck does the NFL have to do with their beef? Why does the NFL give a fuck? Why would the NFL involve themselves at all?
Speaker 3:That would be a good question to ask Because, like I said, we just agreed that Kendrick is not the performer for this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So this is what it feels like, right Hov?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like Jay-Z is the person who obviously it's because of him that kendrick is performing at the super bowl if it wasn't for jay-z kendrick would not have been offered to play at the super bowl until he dropped at least like three more fire projects to me something, something would have to have changed, like it would have to be like in five years that kendrick is a super bowl act like super bowl acts are completely they're different they have to they're of a different caliber, so we have to kind of get into the real reason, that we feel, like a lot of people anyway, feel like jay-z selected or had a hand, it's like, and all y'all pulling out that little post talking about oh, that's the whole city select.
Speaker 3:Learn how to read, yo, learn how to read. Between the line, they tell you they give them a short list. There's a short list of people that go to the the whole city for them to select. You don't think you can dictate to make sure this is the person they're going to select when you give them the short list and that's jay-z's pretty much main job, working with everybody in house. Use some common sense. Okay, jay-z is definitely selecting this. And this was the shot at drake the fact that we have, uh, almost two years of footage of little wayne basically begging for this moment.
Speaker 3:And we'll get into wayne yeah, I mean, that's not, that's what I'm leaning into, okay you got two years of wayne just begging for this moment. You know this is a shot at drake and this goes back from their history. This actually goes even further than the drake history. This lick starts at baby and neptune's not getting paid for a beat and turning into this on this big beef right now, that is definitely uh ymc cash money versus uh rock nation I didn't know that it went back that far.
Speaker 3:Oh no, for sure that's where all this shit started, and you know pharrell is cool with jay-z.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I was just stunned and kendrick literally like, mentioned that too. Like, yeah, that's part of all this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is all part of this, yeah so when we go back to uh just seeing, like the title deal with hove and drake, that plays a big part in this because if you don't know, uh drake wanted, uh well, hove wanted drake to be a part of the deal to help, you know, get. He was gonna give him a percent help get the leverage and push title and he selected to go with the apple contract.
Speaker 3:So that's why that's a white man well, that, and also it was 20 million dollars, uh yeah, but like that's a white man. But no, it comes full circle now, because now this is sponsored by pepsi and apple. So now, jay-z, like now, I got the people you betrayed me with to work the shit on you.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, this works out to be like that's definitely a great Uno reverse card.
Speaker 3:And that's why, like everybody's reacting the way that they are, like nobody's saying like I guess some people are feeling like it was owed to Lil Wayne because it was his home city.
Speaker 1:Let me really quick. Maul said that drake turned down the super bowl multiple times four times. Do you think it's because they haven't offered?
Speaker 3:it to wayne? No, I think it's because he is a coca-cola guy. He's with sprite, remember, uh-huh he did the sprite commercials and generally, pepsi is the one who promotes are they not the same like company? No, pepsi and coca-cola no, okay, okay so I think that's been one reason because I said I thought you meant sprite and no sprite and coca-cola, no, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So I think that's been one reason, because I said pepsi I thought you meant sprite and no sprite is coca-cola. That's what I said. He wouldn't work with pepsi. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:I think that's one of the reasons why because he's been, uh, very aligned with the pepsi people. He's been very aligned with the coke people and pepsi generally has run the super bowl show so I think that's one reason why. Okay, but um, everyone's been saying that wayne should have been the person to perform at the super bowl that's because they keep going back to the la show and they keep saying, hey, this is supposed to be a hometown thing. Uh, and literally has never been the case, like there's never been the case ever.
Speaker 1:Fucking when shakira and jennifer lopez performed.
Speaker 3:Where the fuck shakira is from columbia neither one of the women are from miami, like they're just hispanic, come on now. So I think that's what people kind of got that mixed up with. And there was never a prerequisite.
Speaker 1:This was never like the precedent for selecting, uh, somebody to the super bowl halftime show is not a cultural representation of the city that it's being held in. It never has been so. That's why I was a little bit confused as to why everyone specifically wanted little wayne. I know he's. He is a legacy act. So little wayne has the catalog to headline the super bowl, especially if he brings out a drake, a nikki minaj and all of the people in young money.
Speaker 1:Yes, he has the catalog, but I don't think he has the physical willpower that was one thing I was going to bring up like to provide us with a super bowl like the caliber of show that he needs to provide us for the super bowl that nigga will be out of breath. I went. I've never been to a live lil wayne show. I went and I looked up so many clips of lil wayne live. You can barely understand what the fuck he be saying.
Speaker 3:That nigga be on there forget his lyrics off a bean.
Speaker 1:Oh no, he's definitely up there geeked up to his fucking geeked out his mind like that's not somebody that you want to represent hip-hop on a world stage at all, and he's historically never been like professional.
Speaker 3:There's been a history of him being a never gonna be very unprofessional. Uh, also too, like I know a lot of people are saying like oh, I heard this, this going around in the spaces. We're like oh, just because he's had bad performances here and here, you think that he's gonna have to have a bad performance here. That's not logical and I'm like yes, it is. If I see you do something 10 times bad, I can assume the 11th time might be bad as well, this is just the quality of the product that you put out.
Speaker 1:It's not great.
Speaker 3:We're here because you're a little wayne what you people tend to forget is if giving a trash performance got you selected to things, it doesn't really give you much motivation to make things better, like if I've been giving this effort and it got me to the super bowl, I can see why. Then you got the grammy story that came out saying how you know he was coming to the practice rehearsals and then he just came out out of nowhere when they wasn't expecting him.
Speaker 1:I heard he slapped one of Beyonce's dancers, allegedly.
Speaker 3:Allegedly. We'll put that on there. You know I'd be on the show lying, but like I heard that was a thing, but I just feel like, even though I'm a big Wayne fan, like Wayne was my guy coming up like I can't lie about it.
Speaker 1:I big wayne fan. Like wayne was my guy coming up like. I can't lie about it. I don't know if he resonates the same way with the entire country. That's what I was about to say too, I think wayne for us culturally resonates a lot but outside of us and that's not saying that what, what tracks does wayne have? That will resonate with like a bunch of fucking white people.
Speaker 3:I think I think that the problem is because wayne has a white art uh uh, white audience. I don't think that the problem is because Wayne has a white art white audience. I don't think that goes without saying.
Speaker 3:I think that there are levels to being accepted by white people and I think he falls into like a type of genre that they feel like they grow out of at after a certain point. So it's not nothing wrong with Lil Wayne when he comes into the mix while we out partying, drinking in the backyard, but when we actually get to a big circle and a big standpoint and then also like just talk about the race issues, how he's handled it over the years, he's just not somebody I want to go to bat for he has publicly supported trump.
Speaker 1:He got him out of, he bonded him out, so he he let her.
Speaker 3:No, it don't matter, because asap rocky said fucking nothing to that man after he got him out of sweden jail I mean, that's a way that you could have played it, but he didn't get him out of sweden jail either, though that's that was, but like story, yeah whatever, but what was I?
Speaker 1:what was I about to say?
Speaker 3:no, we were saying that, uh, he was cool with trump. I was saying he said some, okay he he said some unsavory things about black lives.
Speaker 1:The black lives matter movement it was very selfish and then he also, over and over again, has made colorist statements. His own daughter came out and was like please, I'm dark skinned. Like why are you saying these things? She, regine, literally got on the internet. It was like it's really like fucked up to see my dad say these things black beauty, but I bet that bitch look better red.
Speaker 3:I mean he said these things, I mean it's in the it's like I don't I I know that.
Speaker 1:Like we hold a very special place in our hearts for wayne. He's one of the the best rappers who ever did it like. At one point jay-z was literally like you're, you're the next one.
Speaker 3:Like I'm passing the torch to you and that was symbolic and I think it was also fake and half-hearted, because I think the beef still lingered on between them I think even the fact that you even bring up that
Speaker 3:was hard I think, even when you bring in the fact that, like they were talking about how he helped, he gave uh wayne some money to help with like tax problems and stuff that he was having that's still like a wild bird man was robbing him blind, but that's that's still a little bro shit like you're trying to like you're.
Speaker 3:Jay-z doesn't do things out of the kindness of his heart. He does things so that he has favor and pull when he needs it in the future he's a capitalist, he's a businessman, he's a man of means. So that's what man of, but he's a mover or a shaker. I agree with that, but that's why I don't take any of his actions to be uh ones that that need to be like uh dang, what's the word I want to look for? I don't take his actions to be uh altruistic yeah so that's why I don't, I don't look at that.
Speaker 1:No, he's.
Speaker 3:He's definitely somebody who is looking out for himself oh, for sure, but like I said, with the announcement of kendrick it erupted into a civil war. So, like I said, we have young money versus rock nation this is absolutely insane we got saying y'all pussy boys.
Speaker 1:Nah, you gotta read it like Baby. Y'all know what I'm saying. I ain't talking about push boys.
Speaker 3:And then Nikki went on an onslaught.
Speaker 1:Nikki, I think her team was probably logged into her Twitter too, because they was taking shit down as she was tweeting, that's what people were saying they was taking it down.
Speaker 3:But I got some. We found a little bit of our favorites. I think we both agree. One nigga took a knee, other nigga took a bag was a bar.
Speaker 1:My favorite that was a body. She ate you the fuck up yeah, that was nasty she got you, but I got this one.
Speaker 3:So denying a young black man with rightful put into what he, what he rightfully put into the game, for no other reason but your ego, your hatred for birdman drake and nikki got you punishing little wayne. Little wayne, the goat nola. What's good? Eminem stood firm on having 50 cent come out. A white man, shit sad. House nigger tings. House nigger tings is sick, but it's good, you know my favorite bar is calling a nigga a house nigga no loyalty.
Speaker 3:Well, them niggas will keep sunning you. Laugh my ass off. Good, fidel gala, okay. Well, she's getting into that caribbean shit.
Speaker 1:No, I think she's been doing the african thing lately like it's been very weird, like she's been typing like she's Nigerian that's in her bag.
Speaker 3:I mean I gotta say I rock with that one. I wasn't mad at that. I felt like that, like I know this was this was Caribbean. Good ass, fidel yeah, I knew what I was feeling. Give me my phone back.
Speaker 1:I knew I was well, I, just, I literally. I know, see nigga, when I see it what I can't say that, and if I called you chain nigga, I'd be fucked up no, you can call me chain, I'll prefer land nigga no, chain, nigga, chain nigga is disgusting because, you were in chains too, okay but we broke them in 1804 period and y'all are still technically unchanged.
Speaker 3:Well, we got some the prison industrial system we got the Haitian conversation coming up a little bit later. You can get your shit off in just a moment, second hour. But uh, I was, wasn't mad at this. Yo, nikki, like I said, nikki's woke this shit up. Niggas was picking sides, uh, but we, I think we kind of agree that Wayne probably shouldn't be.
Speaker 1:No not at all. And then I feel like a lot of you niggas is online talking about how Wayne should be this. I need you to critically think a little bit more, a little bit deeper. I need you to think a tiny bit deeper. I need you to think of the caliber of artists that perform at the Super Bowl halftime shows and the quality that they're able to provide us with.
Speaker 3:And then I need you to go look at wayne clips of the shows that he does.
Speaker 1:He recently has done. We do have to be fair, like it wasn't just going to be wayne if he came.
Speaker 3:We know it was gonna have some help. It was, it was gonna be all of. Why. Young money, little twist, mac main, come on, we knew them guys we know we want to see gutta, gutta not rack city bitch I never want to hear um bedrock ever again. We definitely would have heard bedrock. I never want to hear that song. They probably would have did the whole bedrock, like they probably wouldn't just.
Speaker 1:I'm attracted to her with her attractive ass, nigga I switched v cars with the retard retar just stupid.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, uh. But no, there was a hip-hop civil war man.
Speaker 1:So I mean no wait, he said in about three years, holla at me, miley cyrus I think he did too.
Speaker 3:He, no, he did not, he think, I think he did. Oh no, he, I think he hollered at her three years later nah, miley was not checking for um mac main oh no, mac main was a ceo. Mac main is not in jail no, he's free okay, he was beefing up with a punch during the oh, okay, he was joking around going back and forth with each other. But no, like I said, this was hip-hop civil war man. What can you? What can you say, man? What can we do?
Speaker 1:it is what it is yeah, I think this was entertaining to watch, but I think all you niggas that want little wayne to perform like if he did perform, I think, um, we would be embarrassed as african americans yeah, I don't think that's that'd be what we want. Yeah, I don't think that would go over well at all. That ain't really what and then I think, um, we wouldn't see hip-hop at the super bowl for like another decade I mean we're probably not, if we're being honest if wayne was the person.
Speaker 1:We're probably not going to see it for a while after this jay-z shit unless drake decides to do it, because I think drake is one of the the only people who, hip-hop wise, could do this I think next year would be the perfect time, honestly, because now that you got kendrick doing it, you can come the next year.
Speaker 3:It's in california, it's gonna be like near the oakland areas at the 49er stadium, and also it's the 60s. Wouldn't kendrick do it next year then?
Speaker 1:well, it's in california it's gonna be like near the oakland areas at the 49er stadium, and also it's the 60, wouldn't kendrick?
Speaker 3:do it next year, then well, it's actually gonna be in la the year after that. So it's gonna be in san francisco and it's gonna be the ram stadium after that I feel like in two years would have been a good time for kendrick. That probably would be a lot better too, though yeah, but also, like I said, drake next, the next super bowl is super bowl 60 so who's the sixth guy? Oh and it's in california that would be dope to do.
Speaker 1:I think that would be something that uh drake will probably look I think, I really think that drake is putting it off because it's something that that wayne really wants and he hasn't gotten offered it yet. And then the nigga he's a bitch that got his face tatted, so I say all right uh.
Speaker 3:Presidential debate uh let's get into eating.
Speaker 1:They're eating the dogs, they're eating the pets they're coming there.
Speaker 3:They're eating all your dogs they're eating the cats. They're doing, they're doing executions after birth I've seen it on tv they're doing nine month abortions they're doing, they're taking, they're taking the baby right out of the womb it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not even an abortion, because the baby has been born into execution.
Speaker 3:They're killing him right there.
Speaker 1:I was, I was, and she's a liar. I had a gut, hearty laugh. And then there was this one part where Kamala is like and this former president.
Speaker 3:She was going to say this nigga and this bitch, this bitch nigga, bitch ass nigga. I will say this, though I mean I watched the entire uh debate and she was very impressive, I'm not gonna lie like she held her own with him. She made him look like the crazy senile old man a lot of times and I know y'all race he missed joe od. I think a lot of y'all races. People who are in love with trump like or was never going to say he lost this in any kind of capacity. No, I feel like if I was going to be honest, I would say if I felt like she got body, but I think the main thing was like, when shawty asked him my g, it's been nine years like since you said something about obamacare, do you have a plan?
Speaker 1:and this nigga was still in the concept I have a concept I have a concept of a plan he said well, I don't know, I'm not president right now, what the?
Speaker 3:fuck, that don't even make sense.
Speaker 1:The whole time you've been tweeting about how you want to get back in office and you don't have no plans for when you do so.
Speaker 3:For something that you said about nine years ago. Nine years ago is crazy. It was so funny because they brought up McCain. Rip to John McCain. They brought up the one that you said, that he wasn't a hero and he was a dumb person for getting caught. They was ripping that nigga up, man like it was, but it was a body work, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:It was an inside job yeah, black illuminati, and I love to see it, because you said that the moderator is also, uh, an aka 100 yeah, so it was a black woman that was moderating and she was fact-checking trump a lot, and she you said she didn't fact-check kamala, not once the whole time that's what people were saying.
Speaker 3:I didn't notice. I don't think, but she probably could have. I I didn't honestly didn't notice if she was kamala is not straight up going up there lying I mean, like the stuff that he was saying was like asinine statement he was saying that they are killing babies after they're born.
Speaker 1:If there were literally people murdering babies I mean you don't think we would know?
Speaker 3:it's it, that's what I said. It was just, it was just insane for just some of the stuff that he was going up there. So I I went to npr and they did a uh, a flat fact fact checker of some of the stuff they were saying.
Speaker 3:So he did mention, like, inflation being really high during, uh you know, 2022 and whatnot after he left office, which was true, but he doesn't tell you that a lot of his actions and spending, especially like the stimulus checks and things like that had a large to do with why that inflation happened.
Speaker 1:So he doesn't really talk about that kept the stemmings. If it kept everything the same price, I mean.
Speaker 3:An excerpt from the article says government spending in the US, both under Biden, harris administration and Trump, also may have contributed to putting money in people's pockets and enabling them to keep spending in the faces of high prices. While the prices are a source of frustration for many Americans, the average worker has more buying power today than she did before the pandemic. Since February 2020, that's what they use, basically saying that average consumer prices went up 21 and wages went up 23. So, according to their works, but again, that's not that much of a of a boost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if stuff went up 21 and then thank you for my little 50 that I keep after like what we appreciate that, my nigga I get to keep one percent thank you. Thank you, um, also too.
Speaker 3:There was some discussion too about about where jobs were, because, uh, right, here, she, harris, said donald trump left us at the worst, uh, unemployment since the great depression. They went back and looked that it's not actually been. We haven't seen this since 1948. So that was around, you know, in the world war ii. So that wasn't necessarily correct to what she said it was a little bit, but this later the immigration part is with trump.
Speaker 3:So he says you see what's happening with the towns throughout the united states uh, you look at springfield, ohio, you look at a royal california or colorado uh, they are taking over the towns, they're taking over the buildings, they're going in violently. These are the people that she and biden led into our country. They're destroying our country. They're dangerous, they're the highest level of criminality and we got to get them out. We have to get them out. So I think it's important that we talk about a lot of misinformation that's been going online, because this is what kind of fueled this conversation that he was doing. I kind of have a personal gripe with, especially a lot of the stuff that he does With immigration, because he's actually used Someone who's a friend of mine. I went to college with him. He played for the Indianapolis Colts and he was killed by a drunk driver who happened to be an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 3:And he tried to use rhetoric To like push that you know his agenda by using the fact that he lost his life.
Speaker 4:To an immigrant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I thought that was really disgusting because, like I said that, that guy was really a good dude to me anytime he saw me, face lit up, he was happy to see me and for you, somebody who I looked at at least as a good, you know, colleague and you know, classmate friend, uh that's fucked up. So I don't really like when you kind of do that, that this little immigration violence stuff, because actually this article brought up, the npr article brought up some great information. They were saying like 37 percent less likely immigrants are, or, uh, legal immigrants to commit crimes because they have to lay low, they don't have paperwork like.
Speaker 3:They're not gonna speed, they're not gonna do like he keeps talking about our crime being up, but according to fbi data, that's not true all crime and violent crime has been going down and it's continued to go down. They said that we're probably going to see like 50 year lows uh, very very much so.
Speaker 3:So I mean nothing that he's really says when it comes to this immigrant situation. It doesn't come to you know, come to pass like even the fact of the whole. Oh, they're taking over towns. There's nobody reporting that they're taking over towns and apartments. Have there been acts of violence and has there been gang members in the area found?
Speaker 1:yes, 100, yeah, that's that happens in the us. That happens bro.
Speaker 3:I've seen apartment complexes that are run by gang members in the us yeah so I mean that's nothing by american gang members american blooded gang members with american firearms that are doing the exact same thing and it's just misinformation to push, because I feel like the trump campaign feels like they're in a tough place, like I don't think they really have the policies that will get uh, working class people to support him and they have to go on race baiting. They have their backs in a corner, yeah. And then he even brings up the fact about the people eating the dogs. He says in Springfield, they're eating dogs. This came, the people that came in. They're eating the cats, they're eating the pets, the people that live there, the people that live there and what they're basically. He's talking about Haitians specifically, and that's what I wasux in the Ohio area and I just think that there are a lot of Haitians in Ohio.
Speaker 1:Well, people don't really.
Speaker 3:People don't do enough research in these situations and you allow these people to push these videos because there's a video going around circulating that has a woman who you see here it looks like she's gnawing on a dead cat or something like that. You see that's injured.
Speaker 3:She went to jail for it, but they're trying to say she's a haitian immigrant. She's not come to find out, she's an american citizen. They have her voter registration like also, too. When they talk about that, I think that article even pointed out that, uh, over the last 25 years, there's been uh 700 I mean 1700 cases of people trying to vote that were illegal immigrants or that could not vote legally, uh, due to immigration purposes, and none of them ever voted. So like this idea that immigrants are coming to the country and signing up to vote.
Speaker 1:It's just not happening yeah, immigrants are laying low and they're trying to support their families so that they can send money back home and that was a georgia senator that did that because usually when immigrants are here working, they have families back home that they need to send money to. That's what. That's what the fuck we come here for. Um, what else did I want to?
Speaker 3:say well, I mean, we're talking about the haitian thing that was going on yeah, misinformation.
Speaker 1:So this is just so random. Like there was uh, there was also a video of a man, just like, holding a cat by its legs walking down the street, and it was. It happened to be like a either african-american or african man. He wasn't. He also wasn't haitian. The police chief of um, that town in ohio, came out and was like we've literally had no reports of pets being harmed and the one report we had was the, the african-american woman who was gnawing on the cat.
Speaker 1:Um, culturally, I'm Haitian, culturally like we I don't know if it's changed since I've lived in Haiti but like we don't like pets that much. Right, like I, I had, I had a, I had dogs, we we do like dogs, but cats like. There are a lot of Haitians who think that cats are like demonic spirits and we don't want them around at all. I remember this is gruesome. My mom used to tell me this story. There was a cat that snuck into the yard. My grandpa beat it to death, threw it out, because they think it's evil. Haitians think cats are evil, so why would we ingest them? That's absolutely insane.
Speaker 3:So then there was another video that was going around when this white guy was upset because his insurance went up for his full coverage vehicles and he went on to blame it, uh, on the Haitians. He said it was the Haitians fault. He said they were coming in, they were having accidents, and he didn't produce like a bunch of these pictures, but one of the pictures the people had like a Jamaican flag in there in their car, and I'm like I don't know about that.
Speaker 3:My god, I think you just put it on. Any black people you see that got into a car accident just said they haitian, like some of them did. Look, haitian I'm. And again, if y'all, if haitians drive like my wife, then I could see that there probably could be some incidences going on, but I don't think that I get it, that's a generalization that that all falls I'm catching strays and I wasn't even in it.
Speaker 3:I just think it's just you, though, that's all. I just think you are the crazy haitian driver. Not like a trope for the for the community? Wow, I'm just saying am I? Do I have reason to not believe that?
Speaker 1:I've only totaled one car that's total one. One car enough is in life, is that's that wasn't even my fault, for real no see, it's never your fault nigga ran me off the road, see it's never your fault.
Speaker 3:All right, hold on one more little part to stay on this.
Speaker 7:Here's this one lady who's upset, because then they are the Haitians are getting food stamps would you like to know what the Haitians are calling the food assistance cards, even the cash assistance cards? They're calling them the magic money cards, because they never run out. These people have jobs like factory jobs, making 20 30 dollars an hour and still receiving food that's not true from the government that's literally, you can't receive assistance if you're making 30 dollars or not.
Speaker 7:I'm supposed to say she's just capping have assistance right now, because I keep getting denied and then how you gonna?
Speaker 7:I said this whole you're getting y'all know white people get food stamps more than black people do I can't get government assistance because I come from the wrong country the percentage of caucasian people who get I work food stamps is higher than black people when I do transactions, I can see what comes across on certain cards. I'm not trying to be nosy. I don't want to know what you get, but when a haitian comes through and spends five hundred dollars on food stamps and still has five grand on their food assistance, who gets fifty five hundred dollars a month for groceries also too, like if the haitian is coming over here and has a car, like that, that's not like government, that's not the the state issue, snap benefit type shit.
Speaker 3:That's the the un federal uh money that's going to them and again it goes back to like that's what I said. These people try to get into y'all heads about these and tell these stories. Even if that money was true, it goes back into the community. So the people who you should be asking is your bosses and your ceos and all these people in the companies like, hey, why wouldn't we get an influx of these people? We don't see influx. Uh, more money in our pocket because they are spending money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're stimulating the economy, you can't.
Speaker 3:That's a food stamp you got to spend on food. You can't get, uh, food that's already made. So that's why I say like, when you watch these debates and I'm not saying you go with either kamala or trump, because honestly I'm not, I'm voting for jill, so uh, but when you watch these debates, you just got to be, you know, true and uh, objective when you're watching this, because you got to understand these people both have agendas, they're both being paid by the same people. So, really, when, when you're looking at these two characters, you're just asking how do you want it? Do you want lube on it or do you want it raw?
Speaker 3:yeah that's pretty much the difference. They still gonna fuck you either way. So one of them is just gonna put a little makeup on you.
Speaker 1:She's gonna make it feel okay, one of them is gonna eat your pussy first no, they never.
Speaker 3:Not neither one of them eating your pussy. First one just gonna spit on, another one just gonna jam it right up in there. So I think that was pretty much everything from the presidential debate. Uh, my mom had called me, and she was like, uh, when kamala said, uh, you know she was going to help the small businesses, I felt like she was talking to you because you know my mom want me to vote for kamala. She's been so upset since I said I was gonna vote for jill on the podcast, so she's been sending me information and telling kamala needs you. One thing I did hate that they didn't talk about, though, was the shooting that happened in Georgia. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't like that shooting.
Speaker 3:That was really. That school was close to my nephew's school in regards to, like, the area of. Where is that? Oh, it is that little boy that got killed. It just. It hurt me because he looked just like my nephew.
Speaker 1:You know, it was just just to see that little black boy out there in that country, rural ass town, and just to have that guy, just disgusting man. I've seen a lot of information come out, um, about things that could have prevented this from happening prior to it happening. I don't know the validity of everything, but, um, if it's all true, then this could have been prevented yeah, and then they're trying to blame the black, uh, counselor she was his counselor for two days yeah, they're trying to blame her because they said the mom called up and on man like why?
Speaker 1:would you call the school? Take the gun away from your unstable child. Why would you buy him one? He was already on the fbi watch list why weren't you fucking door?
Speaker 1:why weren't the authorities um fucking, uh. Notified, instead of the guidance counselor, who's obviously overworked because everybody in the public school system is overworked and does barely knows this boy does not have a rapport with him, because she had just been, he had just been transferred to be one of her cases, one of her students. So, like I don't know, they just want to blame everything on black people. Who's who's to blame is his fucking parents who, after the fbi reached out, showed up to their house and was like your son has been making threatening comments on the internet, bought him a rifle. Why the fuck would you buy him a rifle?
Speaker 3:and then apparently like both his parents need to go to jail and apparently too, like and this is going back to the haitian thing because y'all kept trying to put the the haiti's iq average and shit like that. If haiti got this low iq, what does that say about y'all stupid idiots who can't read an article, can't verify a source? What does that make y'all? If haiti is 67, you niggas is zero. That that because that's what it only makes sense to, because none of y'all niggas is making any sense with all this. I've seen a, a liberal this page like who this is? Like the left and all that other stuff, or not the left, but this is the democrats and all that shit talking about. Oh look, he was had all these gay frustrated feelings. It was like no, he was against gay people. He hated that the trans people were getting acknowledgement. He was one of you guys. But because you guys can't comprehend, you guys are idiots on that side. You stupid, retarded hicks. You don't understand. I can't comprehend a third grade sentence like clearly so again.
Speaker 3:I was upset they didn't bring that up in the presidential debate.
Speaker 1:But you know, it is what it is really quickly for you haitians that love trump you dense stupid motherfuckers. If this has not changed your mind, then I really genuinely do not know what the fuck else to tell you. And maybe our IQ is low, because how the fuck are you still supporting this man? There's no hope like there is none none at all.
Speaker 3:All right, man, we got one more big thing to talk about, and we can just, you know, chop it up about a few other things, but Shannon Sharp okay, oh no, we can.
Speaker 1:We can do shannon sharp and then I'll take a break, all right.
Speaker 3:So shannon sharp. Oh, big week, big week with shannon, my guy. I want y'all to know shannon was on the docket before today. He was on the docket. We done changed the docket, but no, he was on the docket already. But we was gonna talk about some other shit, not this. We talk about this now. So we about to get into what just happened. So shannon sharp. You want to do it, I'll find a video.
Speaker 1:No, I was just gonna say that we're gonna play it for you right now, but I'll explain what happened while rhetoric pulls it up. So we were just having a good day and then, randomly, shannon sharp is on ig live, live, busting cheeks, bro, accidentally. All you can see is like maybe a drawer, it's like a piece of wood and a wall, a ceiling, something, but you can tell like. That definitely sounded like shannon. He was beating the doonies down. Okay, he was. And then the amount of shit that he was talking to. He was like yeah, you got a black king right here. You lucky bitch, take this dick.
Speaker 3:I was like I mean it was very clear a few things. Um, he was up in michelle's pussy deep and he said her name too. Yeah, he said it's slow with a shannon talking through it, shannon trying to talk you through it.
Speaker 1:shannon definitely will talk you through it. I was uncomfortable, um, I think, uh, there was, shannon definitely will talk you through it. I was uncomfortable. I think there was a lot of women who were like this is hot, this is hot.
Speaker 3:I think women the older girls was going crazy.
Speaker 1:The groaning, the shit talking, all of that is generally hot. I was just very off put by the fact that it was Shannon Sharpe.
Speaker 3:It's closer in my ears now than it was before see he talking through it, them long strokes, pause if necessary necessary I'm long strokes. Stop talking about his strokes. I know it because that's how I would be giving it up when I talk like that. That's long stroke. That heavy.
Speaker 4:Stop.
Speaker 3:You never seen Forrest Gump. That's what he sound like you never seen Forrest Gump, that's what he sound like.
Speaker 1:Slowing it down and the music in the background too.
Speaker 3:So, shannon, when this first happens, he goes on his IG and says he's been hacked. And they said him and his team, uh are gonna figure out what.
Speaker 1:What happened here and I genuinely do think he thought he was hacked no no, because um he he came, he came back later on his um on his show with um ocho cinco and um. We're about to pull that up and play that for you now, but I'll say what I want to say after we play this next clip for you, because he explains um what happened that happened today.
Speaker 8:Um, obviously I'm embarrassed um Someone that is extremely, extremely private and to have one of your most intimate details, the audio heard for the entire world to hear. I'm embarrassed for a number of reasons. People count on Shannon Shea Shea Media Club, shea Shea Nightcap, espn. There are a lot of people that count on me at all times. Even when I'm behind closed doors, I still try to remain a level of. Even when I'm behind closed doors, I still try to remain a level of, and that's not us.
Speaker 3:I just want y'all to know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah the videos is doing that for some reason.
Speaker 8:And I'm very disappointed in myself, not for the act. I'm very disappointed in myself, not for the act. I think there are millions and billions of people of consenting age that engage in activities, but to have your most intimate detail on the audio to be heard, I'm disappointed in myself. I let them call them. I called my sister, my friends. Obviously my friends reached out, but God, this was not staged. Called them. I called my sister, uh, my friends. Obviously my friends reached out, but god, this was not staged. Um came in.
Speaker 8:I threw my phone, staged um sorry, man just threw my phone on the bed um gazed in an activity I did not know I've never been on live I've never turned IG live on, so I don't know how it works.
Speaker 8:And so all of a sudden, my other phone is going off and people are calling me FaceTime that I've never talked to a day in my life on FaceTime. And it didn't. I'm like why are y'all calling me FaceTime? And after a while, jamie, I mean. He says Shannon, you on IG live. I'm like doing what you know? What am I on IG Live for? I ain't getting no IG Live button. I'm on IG Live for I ain't getting no IG Live button. He says they can hear. I'm like, so now, ocho, you know, I say ask for patience. He said they can hear. And now I'm starting to get agitated again Because you called me and say I'm on ig live, when I know I didn't click myself on ig live. And you say they can hear me. I said hear me doing what say it sounds like you were having sex. Man, my heart sank, it dropped dang man do you?
Speaker 1:think he staged this to get over the zesty allegations that's what it feels like, like like maybe he wasn't even beating the cheeks, like maybe he was sitting next to the young lady, maybe like how we're sitting now, and they were just ah, oh no, oh no, that ain't, that ain't.
Speaker 3:I don't think that happened.
Speaker 9:I don't think that happened um I'm trying to see, I'm trying to find what ocho cinco had to say that's what. But then I also remembered that you're not very good, or you're not very technically savvy with phones and computer equipment, all that stuff. So I gave you a little I believe that yeah I was still a little upset, I was a little hurt, but the fact that it was a Michelle and not a Michael, god, that's my dog.
Speaker 8:It's never been a Michael. See now that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's messy that he said that.
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Because why would you be relieved that it was a Michelle, not a Michael Ocho? Did you think Shannonannon was gay? Also, you're very, you're much closer to him. Why did you need confirmation? So why did why were you surprised that it was a michelle and not a michael? So did you think there was a possibility that it could have been a michael? That's hate that's hate.
Speaker 3:So it's been interesting with them this week too, because there's been like clips that's been going viral for them, kind of almost leading up to this, like you had the clip of shannon going crazy at the staff rage because they were he was getting feedback in his headphones and it was messing up his performance so you see him like he trips out on that has to apologize, saying, hey, you know this is what happened.
Speaker 3:Then him and ocho go at it because ocho was late for the show. So you then you see him kind of going at him saying are you taking this serious? Why didn't you do x, y and z to make sure he was on time? So he was like it was almost like he was challenging ocho, his seriousness, which was, like I said, those are the stuff we was going to get into like we're going to talk about yeah, we're not getting into that at all, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1:Ocho in another clip was like, uh, like, uh, yeah, your, um, your stroke sounded all right, but we gotta get your stamina up, because you know, he was like your hips, your hips, obviously good, but we gotta get your stamina up because you was breathing real heavy you try to you try to make light of it.
Speaker 8:Nobody, yeah, no, nobody was harmed in the making of this audio.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no nobody was fucked in the making of this audio either.
Speaker 8:You know, she might had to put a little ice pack down there, but she's good otherwise, nope I feel like a man of your age basketball player.
Speaker 3:He gotta run it, he gotta lean into it the elbows and stuff like that. And I'm surprised that he's actually leaning into it, being this kind of funny about it, because I always I hate that I have to bring this up, but I would feel remiss if I didn't.
Speaker 3:He's had a situation where he was in a me too yeah decades ago now, but I mean, it's to say where I can understand, where he's always been private he's always been. Hey, me and the women that I'm involved with is separate. I try to keep that as a distance. I may, you know, talk about women that I think is attractive, but my personal life I try to keep to myself. I've always respected that um in.
Speaker 1:In that regard I want celebrities to keep more of their private lives private. I want you to stop fucking telling us things. I saw an article I don't know how true this is that said megan good was paying john of the majors bills. I was like why the fuck do we need to know this information? This is literally news put out by the man to be a detriment to the black community. We do not need to have these conversations anymore I'm hey, I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 3:Uh, hey, you gotta get what you gotta do. I think I think this is an investment for her in regards to making good. I think that's just hate, that what you looking at it as because she believes he's still a great talent as well. I'll say on that, but no, shout out to shannon sharp. Uh, you, that, you, that nigga man, you showed it.
Speaker 1:Pause if necessary yeah, I don't, I was uncomfortable, I genuinely was. It's really I'm not mad. Hey, you gotta do what I didn't like what I heard. I understand why some of the women were turned on, but I just feel like I was just imagining shannon sharp's face being over you making those noises and I was just like very off put and then the they think they found what the woman who she was yeah, she looked like she looked like an old stacked hoe yeah I mean she was an older lady.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I mean, I ain't mad at you, shana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he literally said like you ever seen. You never watched forrest gump no, yeah, I've watched it a couple times your mama sure do care about your education that's exactly what shana's like?
Speaker 1:oh, my god so beyonce blessed us with a gq spread a couple days ago. She looks fucking phenomenal along with the spread. Obviously, there was an interview. In the interview they asked her to name some of her favorite current artists, so beyonce replied I love and respect all of the female singer-songwriters who are out right now ray victororia, monet, sasha kiebel I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name right chloe hallie of course those are her daughters. Before she had kids, um and renee rap. Love renee rap. She played um, uh, what you call it?
Speaker 1:regina george and mean girls a new one okay oh yeah, the college girl section I was about to say yeah she's a good r&b singer, like I, like that white girl. I hope she's not. She's thickly too. I hope she's not like.
Speaker 3:I hope she she doesn't have like racist tweets in the past where she's saying nigger with the hard r because you bitches always find a way to what if it's like like I want something special, like let me hear, like a spic, or like let me bring something new back, like be a beaner wet back, like do something different, yeah, pick a different group she also.
Speaker 1:She continued to say I love doji and glorilla and I just heard that mexican ot he's from houston, he goes hard.
Speaker 1:I told you mexican ot yeah but I think it's also a note gorilla being selected there yes, I it just also a call back to our conversation before shows how much further glorilla is in her career than sexy red, because last year they were, they were being put in the same category and I don't think you can do that anymore. I think glorilla has pushed herself up to like a, a meg level of, I think, jt's punching air though jt's definitely punching air because not, I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't feel like maybe she felt like she needed to be name dropped, but I feel like hearing gorilla that's probably gonna feel, especially with their contention, it's probably gonna feel some kind of way, definitely she's not.
Speaker 1:She's not happy about that and I like them both so much like I. When they were beefing, I was like, damn, that's, that's weird. I'm still, I'm not picking a side, I'm still listening to both of these bitches Like.
Speaker 3:I still love the both of y'all. Who do you think we're going to get first, though? Dolce or Glorilla? Beyonce feature.
Speaker 1:I think we're going to get a Dolce one first, because I just think she kind of fits more into a lot of the things. Beyonce does more than um.
Speaker 3:I could then glorilla does I would love and don't you already got a katie perry feature like true that's why I mean that, but I could also see that would be like if it's hard, it would be best to be glorilla first. I think have so hard my problem saying her name today. I don't know why yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just feel like is is dochi, dochi. If you put glorilla and dochi against each other, I think dochi is a is a better rapper. I think she is, oh for sure, more creative and I think, like critic, critical acclaim wise, she's probably gonna do more than glorilla is. I think I think glorilla is important. She's gonna be important for the culture. I think dochi is gonna go past just black people liking is. I think I think glorilla is important. She's going to be important for the culture.
Speaker 3:I think though she's going to go past just black people liking her. I think that, uh, if they were probably to do the dolce combo, I think that would probably be. I mean it would be good. I think it'd be more of a meaningful act I mean or a piece of art. I think if we really wanted to get that shit jumping, hearing beyonce on some gutter, ass glorilla shit like her talking her shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we haven't gotten uh, rap beyonce in a little bit so I would love her. Shit would be dope yeah yeah, I would love that, but also like whatever beyonce decides to put doji on like she's gonna fucking snap oh for sure it's gonna be good.
Speaker 3:There's gonna be too many people, too many cooks and chefs and legit people gonna be in the room for it not to be uh, but from the top you know, one selecting all of the the next up women let's talk to uh.
Speaker 1:I guess you should probably say this segment so our next segment is gonna be the cringy bitch segment, because we both had cringy bitches that we wanted to talk about during this show, so we decided to just lump them all together so we can start with zoe spencer, because I feel like we have less to say about her.
Speaker 3:I mean I got a little bit, but we we talked about zoe on the complex list.
Speaker 1:Uh, you kind of introduced me on that list uh to her.
Speaker 3:You kind of explained to me how she was, with you know, associated with the amp guys and yeah, and well, she, now she is yeah since then I've been getting a collection of her content and snippets in my feed and I'm gonna just be honest, like it's already hard for women to be funny, but when you try to do like this, it's funny that she tries to do whoa like that's word, that differently. How should I say? Word it differently, I don't know find it yo the weird, I don't know like find it.
Speaker 1:The best thing that I can call it is that that was probably me being nice oh my god, I don't want to call it the r word like you could just tell that, like she is trying very hard to be funny and it comes off as cringy when you're trying to be funny. It always comes off as cringy when you're trying hard to do something.
Speaker 3:But the thing, though, I feel like what she's trying to do a little bit Is a female speed, but I think one, she's a little too old to be doing it. And then two, let me look up how. Zoe is the simple, the wild girl when it doesn't have anything to do with sex, just looks weird like I'm sorry, like she's over here farting during nigga streams and shit her and zeddy that's his name, the guy that was on the.
Speaker 1:That's their like, that's they came up together, so I I don't think that was his stream, that's their stream or her stream it sounded like it was his stream, and she walked in on it okay but still farting on the stream is gross 23 years old yes, 23, and you farting on people's streams oh my god, we have the same birthday.
Speaker 3:That's crazy but then you add into the fact that okay, so this is the, this is what really made me want to add her as the cringy bitch. So I guess she was out at the amp top, you know, amp meeting, or whatever. They was doing something, whatever they doing.
Speaker 3:She bit almost every nigga in the house while having a conversation. She bit Duke on his hand, she bit Phantom on her arm. She did some weird stuff to Agent and she's like. It just doesn't resonate with me and maybe I'm too young for it, but I don't feel like this. You're too old for it. Oh, you're right.
Speaker 1:I'm think nobody resonates with that, though nobody likes this kind of girl she has. Obviously she was on that list for a reason there yeah, because she's playing with the right people who are, who think she's fucking hilarious?
Speaker 3:are they laughing at her with she's?
Speaker 1:been so. She's been with the amp niggas for maybe like the past year and a half, but before that she was just a girl in new york with zeddy and they would stream and do stuff like in the car, they would just post videos in the car, and it was just them too, and people like it was her that people resonated with I think, he's famous because of her.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think she is funny. Naturally, I do think that now that she has gained more notoriety, she's probably trying to like um, go for those moments and again, when you try too hard, it comes off as cringy as fuck. So stop trying so hard and just like be around these. No, you're not speed.
Speaker 3:Okay, speed is the only one who can get this shit off. All right, speed is a unicorn in this shit. All right, they could be dating trans women. He'd be out here doing the craziest shit, playing with tigers. That's like. I'm sorry, but a woman can't do that. It's just our the way that we have been culturally.
Speaker 3:You can't, you can't, be a crash out yeah, it just doesn't look good on a lady unless you're like crashing out on like a man or something like that's when it's actually it looks off-putting and like not cute to people because she looks erratic at all times there's, there's a certain way that people expect you to behave as a woman.
Speaker 1:But, um, I don't know, now that I'm saying what I'm saying, I kind of, I kind of want you to just continue being cringy as fuck, but don't, don't like you don't have to her detriment you don't have to try that hard.
Speaker 1:Girl like you're, you're funny, like the way you react to things, you're very snappy with the comebacks, like your timing, your timing, your timing is good. So I don't think, um, I don't think you need to try as hard, I don't, I don't, I just, I just it's weird. I also think that Duke don't like that bitch at all. She's goofy. I, I think too much. I think duke specifically be annoyed as fuck at her. He does. He can't hide it either. I've seen at least three videos where he's like his like he's not gonna say it because he is respectful of women in general, but his whole face be like bitch, yeah, his whole don't fuck the fuck up, bitch.
Speaker 3:That's the energy she brings out of niggas, though, so let's get to the other cringy girl so, oh my god, there's a mother.
Speaker 1:This, um, tiffany haddish always makes me think of that tweet that was like I don't support all you women, some of you bitches, is very dumb. Wake it up, t Haddish entire career, I felt like that. So New York Fashion Week was it was this week, I think. I don't remember which show she was at, but she's sitting with the Hiltons. Um, somebody is like, oh, it'd be funny if you just stood up and walked and she just did that shit during a fashion show, got up while the models were walking and did the whole lap back to her seat and everyone was like, whoa, tiffany got. Tiffany, bitch, you look dumb as fuck. First of all, why, when white, when white, people tell you to go.
Speaker 1:You just jump up and you fucking go. Yeah, pretty much for her. You're a fucking minstrel show. That's what I'm thinking. That you are now bringing fried chicken into your purse and telling people on the red carpet talking about the she doing the little nay, nay, for like three years after it. You're a minstrel show. There's nobody thinks you're funny, other than white people who are laughing at you and not with you. That's, that's what I think. This is now, because why is Tiffany Haddish even being invited to New York fashion shows after the weird skit shit that we she was a part of.
Speaker 1:That we found out a couple years ago on top of on top of literally never being funny in her entire career, on top of multiple celebrities like Beyonce and and um, marlon Wayans coming out and being like, and Law Roach coming out and being like bro. We genuinely just cannot fuck with you anymore because of your behavior. You don't know how to act. And there are people online talk about oh, the Hiltons grew up in this and Tiffany is new to this, so they were being mean girls by telling her oh, you should do this. No, tiffany has been famous for a long time.
Speaker 1:Even our asses sitting here in this house know that. You cannot get up during a fashion show and walk the fucking runway with the models. You, dumb bitch, know how to act, and it's not even respectability politics. At this point, there's a difference between respectability politics and not showing your black ass everywhere you fucking go. You're literally embarrassing as fuck and I don't like imposing rules on black women, but you need some goddamn rules or you need to be put up in the house. Period. I don't want to see you anymore.
Speaker 3:I love when you do that. That was it right there. That was the money shot right there, baby. You did your thing on that you ate. Thank you, baby, you ate that.
Speaker 3:Thank you, oh man you did hey, tiffany, stop, just stop. Hey, uh, tiffany, stop, just stop. It's okay, period, it's okay end of sentence just stop, you're making yourself look horrible all right, uh, okay, so this is. I want to go back first and definitely say james earl jones again one more time rip, rest in peace. And as historically as we've always seen, when a black man uh passed, uh, misinformation tends to come out about his likeness and his person determine whether it's misinformation or not but there was some.
Speaker 3:There's some going on basically where there's a port they were talking about. Hey, back in the day, james earl jones again, I think this is the first time someone's died and we did the whole. Let's talk a little bit of shit about him, right? This is kind of like a little.
Speaker 1:This is the first time we did this? Yeah, I think so. Okay, congrats to us. But uh, nobody we hate has died during like our show that's debatable.
Speaker 3:But, uh, I don't express all my hate to you, uh, but basically they said he was accused of saying black women were militant and you know, uh, you know all that other old ruley shit but, it was like the three minute clip.
Speaker 3:We'll play most of it here, but I think it's important to listen to, because when I first heard it I thought, okay, this is either probably some misinformation, because he was a staunch, you know, civil rights guy, like he was big on, like he was fighting back, like I think one of the roles that he got early on a people wanted to be a white guy and he ended up getting it and he basically had to fight all of hollywood for it, like basically ever since then. So this is him right here, talking, sitting with his white woman uh, jim do black men marry white women because of the nature of black woman?
Speaker 10:I know in some of our earlier conversations you mentioned that the black women you've met have been you look so crazy in this video what do you mean by that?
Speaker 11:well, uh, I'll answer the one question. What do I mean by uptight, going toward a more militant, uh attitude about their own identity and in many ways are way ahead of the black man, because I don't know why, but in many ways are replacing the black man. There's a whole almost unfeminine aspect of the black militant woman.
Speaker 10:Do you find that some black women you've known out of your personal experience blame the black man for what happened to them in slavery? Even today?
Speaker 11:Of course, you know, if the black man, regardless of the causes, failed to protect her, left her in a position where she had to sell herself or bargain with her body and so on, yes, there's resentment about that. But it's very complex. Now, you see, I think in another generation you'll get a whole crop uptight about their position in society. There are many, because I'm general, generalizing now. Many are overreacting against aunt jemima, the aunt jemima image, the submissive, mother earth type, unselfish, all giving, especially all giving to the white man, sexually and in the kitchen, every other way. And she's also overreacting against the problem of having to be the breadwinner, the matriarch of the house. The myth of the black matriarch is really a myth because it wasn't her choice. Many black women, I'm sure, once they found this job, had a certain social and political dignity to it, relished it and the wheel of the rolling pin, you know, like any minority group mama would do. But no matter how much she might relish, it wasn't her choice to begin with. She would always have preferred the black male to have run the house, to have saved her from white rapists, white slave owners why did you all right, so he's talking to the about the white woman and stuff after that but, um, I think that it goes to show that that was a lot of cap what people was doing on tiktok and all that shit I think,
Speaker 1:um that was thought that was a thoughtful answer, in my opinion yeah, uh, he, it was definitely more fleshed out than I I thought it would be. I think probably the only things I have to say about that, where he probably went wrong a little bit. He did call black women not unfeminine, like he said he was describing it was unfeminine. Yeah, he was describing the response and then he also described the response as an overreaction yeah, but he did, he also gave credence to that word yeah, I just think that he like I think he meant over correction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's that's probably what he meant by that. Um, I don't know why people are so mad about this, because what he's saying is true, like it's all based, in fact, like I mean a lot of the stuff, like he said, was he was shitting on black men for their failure.
Speaker 3:If anything, yeah, he said that it that they would rather prefer us, but we can't be, for whatever reason, in that position of leadership.
Speaker 1:These are the same talking points that people have to this day, about right now, black and black, men and women so that's why it was so weird when I've seen like feminist jones and stuff, like that Feminista Jones and stuff.
Speaker 4:But what?
Speaker 3:They were saying that he hated black women and that he was shitting on black women.
Speaker 1:I don't think he was shitting on black women. He was definitely shitting on black men more than he was shitting on black women. But that's the post he was saying that black women are the way they are because of a bunch of different factors.
Speaker 3:Race Excuse me of a bunch of different factors race, excuse me, racism, racial factors and things like that but no to me. When I heard that, I knew exactly what this was. This was. Y'all were taking information, y'all heard buzzwords and y'all acted like the stupid people where you saw oh, he said black women feminine, and you know they're not feminine and that they're militant and all that stuff it's like well, he's saying that in response to the totality of our experience and even great credits.
Speaker 3:I'm generalizing, I'm going, I'm like talking about specifics and yeah, he was saying that black women are militant as a result of xyz.
Speaker 1:Black women, uh, over corrected and became this way as a result of xyz. It's a very like um empathetic way to to look at the situation, because a lot of black men will would see the, the, the reaction that black women had to whatever it was, and then just be mad at the reaction instead of being like well, where did this come from?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's what I. As soon as I heard that and I seen people saying he hated black women, I went and did my science because I was like bro. I know for a fact that he was a big advocate of black actors and black people being in these positions.
Speaker 1:Like so, I knew it. So that was really it. Like that's why everyone was so up in arms.
Speaker 3:That's the only clip I've ever found that was able to find when I was looking him up Damn.
Speaker 1:Okay, Let me see if there's anything else, Because, like I have a hard time. Like this was it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then he even had the white woman talk about it and she said something to the effect where it's like I understand why that's their response.
Speaker 1:Like this, the clip that we were just watching.
Speaker 3:OK. So I don't know. As I say, it's just BS Misinformation trying to take a black man down after his deathbed, you know, after he's on his deathbed. So it is what it is man, A Tyreek Hill my nigga, what he do.
Speaker 1:Then he got arrested before the game in front of the stadium oh yeah, but um, didn't he get pulled over because, like he was in a lamborghini and the cops were like power tripping?
Speaker 3:well, that's what it turned into. They said he pulled over because he was driving reckless or whatever, probably rushing to try to get to the game and get to the stadium okay they pulled him over, he he ends up pulling his uh tent back up.
Speaker 3:His tent was dark as fuck, so then they started flipping out and then they just went over and y'all, y'all niggas about to lose y'all jobs, y'all administer and that's how you know. Being a police is a shit. Shit work where, and that idiots are probably most people being officers. When your punishment is administrative work in the office, like oh no, you don't, you don't have to go out there and potentially deal with the people in violence and all those other stuff.
Speaker 3:You don't have to risk your life anymore yeah, you just stay in the office and get paid oh, you have to fucking read now and write. We know you get a headache after 15 minutes of that your worst goddamn nightmare oh man, oh my god, I was.
Speaker 1:I was just a third string offensive lineman, and now they got me reading papers in high school in high school third string offensive lineman in high school, not college that's what these guys are.
Speaker 3:These aren't the best, and these aren't our best and brightest man.
Speaker 1:I just need a nigga who tore his meniscus and now he's mad at the world and black people. I honestly hate that. It's not our fault. Your life is a mess.
Speaker 3:I honestly hate that it had to be uh tyreek, because he's like the worst person that you would want this to be Like. No, for real. He's got domestic violence allegations and charges he broke his kid's arm one time. Yeah, you gonna look at his arm and stuff you can go look up.
Speaker 1:But yeah so this is where I was like, as long as the nigga run fast and can catch balls, we gonna give him millions of dollars.
Speaker 3:Yeah for the most part, that shit is crazy. I mean shit. And it's hilarious too, because he was just voted last year the number one player from last season. And for that to be the first image, first game of the season you got your top player in your league. Uh, face down on the asphalt.
Speaker 2:Uh, we're getting handcuffed but he ended up playing uh, they won, they know they lost.
Speaker 3:No, they won, they won okay, well, they won.
Speaker 1:It worked out for you, sir yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, let's see you. Good, we got everything out of our system, yeah yo, this was a long ass, show it was a long day for us yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:I thought I saw a bug in the light. I need to go to sleep, I do all right man.
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Speaker 3:bye, we out of here,