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Is the image of female athletes in basketball overshadowed by racial stereotypes? Join us as we explore the complexities of race and gender in women's basketball, where Black female athletes feel pressured to adopt sexualized personas for visibility. We dissect societal expectations and highlight the disparities between Black and white players, urging a call for mentorship and systemic reform. Older players’ roles in mentoring and supporting the next generation come under scrutiny, as we question the status quo and push for change.
A trip to the thrift store turns into a comedy of errors, thanks to an inquisitive nephew, in our segment on family dynamics. We celebrate moments of confusion and hilarity that arise when adults and children communicate (or miscommunicate), and the unexpected joy and challenges it brings to family life. Through personal stories, we capture the essence of nurturing young minds, balancing humor with sensitivity in family interactions, and why understanding is more crucial than ever.
Moving from sports to entertainment, we tackle the recent BET Hip-Hop Awards and its event execution. While critiquing the absence of major artists and the show's lackluster elements, we spark a larger conversation on the political landscape, race, and the cultural significance of award shows. From the stigmas surrounding sex work to political maneuvers by figures like Kamala Harris, we examine how media shapes perceptions and the importance of challenging societal norms. Join us as we navigate these multifaceted topics with a critical lens, promising insights and perspectives that challenge conventional wisdom.
To me what seems to be the problem is and nobody seems to be talking about this in a real way and it's disappointing, especially that there's tons of older black women who played in the league and are not addressing this. There is a serious issue where all of the women are conducting themselves, or looks to be moonlighting, as escort video girls and the only white girl is just gets to play basketball all the time.
Speaker 2:Women felt like Lex and Drea when James and Fouhad initially initially said that should have been like that's weird, but they were. They were basically like well, we not from atlanta, which is okay but I could not get the spot.
Speaker 1:I see why it was small. They could not get the sponsors because who wants to? There were no ciphers all right, we got j1. You want to talk about j1?
Speaker 1:they had j1 in a nissan altima or whatever it was, it was a nissan, but it was imani's nissan, the kai girl who's with jaylen brown, and you remember they was all together. So I'm pretty sure she sees that as if the girl who's getting three points a game is getting this. I should be somewhere in that market as well. You know what I'm saying because I get more rebounds than her. What it seemed like with her is just from people about it. She kind of fell for the guy and she kind of thought this was going to be a bigger thing between them two and then when it came out that it wasn't going to be that and she was just another one on the list, that's when this kind of defaming exercise came up, because a lot of people don't know you can perform with herpes and sex work.
Speaker 4:You just came because a lot of people don't know you can perform with herpes and and sex work.
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Speaker 1:Thank you to graffiti tax preparation services, that's it hey, man, I've said it before on this show, like you just can't trust kids. Yeah, I've said that, man. Kids, it's just they low down like you have said that, like they know good, they low down, especially when they're not your kids, especially they're gonna turn their back on you every time I hate other people's kids, not hate, that's a strong word a disdain
Speaker 1:and even like be your own like we just we took my niece and nephew out with my parents this weekend and I'm thinking like I'm trying to make sure I'm mindful, because their parent, you know, is very sensitive about certain things and imagery and content that they consume and all that kind of stuff, even to the stuff we speak. So I feel like I'm trying to be mindful and I may say something to you yeah that's adult friendly yeah, but I'm not trying to directly. You know, insult the kid.
Speaker 2:So my nephew like throws me under the bus he more than threw you under the, he threw you under the bus, and then he drove, reverse, drove and went back over road like.
Speaker 1:So what happened was we were, we were going out and we asked him he want to ride with us? He said yeah, so he jets over to coming over to us. I look at fair and say you know, I'm saying I go over to fair and be like you know, look how fast he coming over here. Apparently he got over there fast and I think and I say he was like fuck his sister. Yeah, that was who's with my mom. So he heard me say that and didn't say nothing to me, didn't speak on it or anything. No, apparently he came to you off the, off the slick yeah.
Speaker 2:So after, because we went and got breakfast and then there was a thrift store nearby and I love thrift stores and so does my, my mama, so she, we all went to the thrift store and while we're in there I heard him talking to his sister saying like uncle Fred said a bad word, he said f, this or whatever. But I didn't like fully hear. And then, like they got closer to me and they were like yeah, uncle Fred said he was like yeah, uncle Fred said f. Uncle Fred said he was like yeah, uncle Fred said F, da, da, da. And I was like yeah, your Uncle Fred says lots of bad words. We both be cursing like sailors. So I didn't think anything of it, but I think that's what he was talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it was too, because I talked to my dad about it the next day. So then I get a call, check on my parents, make sure they all good the kids gone, everyone got.
Speaker 2:she's telling me she's like so did you say such and such to your niece and I'm like no, did you say fuck you directly to your niece?
Speaker 7:that's what she asked. Yeah, we were both like what I?
Speaker 1:was like no, I don't remember like, because I joke around with him like my dad. I come from my dad doing that to his nieces and nephews. We play maybe a little extra and all that other stuff, but I come from that. But I was like no, I didn't say that like, especially not to her. If I did say, I may have said it like to myself, because she says a lot of stuff that'll make me want to say that like she'll try me and disrespect me and nobody's saying anything.
Speaker 1:I'm like man, this little girl like she's lame as hell. She's lame as hell. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying in my head, but I'm not trying to express that to her. Uh, but no, I'm like, no, I didn't, I didn't say that at all. And he, she goes. I'm always like well, your nephew just came out and just flat out said you said it in front of his mom. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, like what? And? Or she's like yeah you said fuck me.
Speaker 1:I'm like that's not what happened at all. That's not. I did not do that. I don't think her mom thought a big deal of it because he didn't call.
Speaker 2:Nobody called me yeah, because, um, when he told the story in front of everyone, your, your niece was like I didn't hear him say that yeah, nobody heard me say no because you didn't fucking.
Speaker 1:That wasn't a thing and then man look at us. Then we brought him books and stuff like we really like let him have a good time.
Speaker 2:He is literally the cutest little cutie pie. He's so smart. We were in the thrift store. He's like I'm learning about the american revolution, the american civil war, so, um, there were these like a bunch of history books that were dated from like 1575 onward and he, he wanted those. And then he was like really, what I'm trying to find is a book on the periodic table of elements. And then he told me how many elements there were and I was like I want to find you a book on the elements. Like I was in that store, like whatever you want you, you got it.
Speaker 1:Like that's his new fixation is the elements. Now I was telling him all a bunch of them that he didn't know was considered elements.
Speaker 2:He was like all of that are elements.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we gotta find him a book on amazon on the elements no, he's up now like what you mean me and that nigga he's not cool. No more, that's not my guy feed his no, that's not my guy, that's your guy. No, I don't even know.
Speaker 2:He's probably a good investment after you have, after you have a little talk with him, that's gonna be your. Be your guy.
Speaker 1:No, I'm definitely going to make it seem like we and him not cool. The next time I talk to him he's so sensitive You're going to make him cry.
Speaker 2:I don't want you to make him cry. We can't be doing that sensitive talk. You're a grown man, I'll be that, and he's a sensitive little boy and I'll be that. I'll be that you can hurt my feelings, and you know that I wouldn't say that about your sister.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna let him know, but also he's a kid, so but he posts like. I just felt like he's old enough at the age now where we built a rapport where you could have came to me first and g check like they correct me all the time I don't think he's old enough.
Speaker 7:No man, he's to pull you aside and have a man-to-man talk with you not a man-to-man talk.
Speaker 1:With you, not a man-to-man talk. But they'd say that any other time I say something to them, they don't like our word, they don't like. They spit it out and say you said such and such that's only one of them.
Speaker 2:You're a monster they'll say that all the time. That's only your niece that does that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he does it too, when he wants to. Way less often. I can't even say black men around her. She thinks black is a bad word. Black black is not correct, uncle frat.
Speaker 2:That's what she likes to say yeah, I was like when we were at the the table I was like black is not a bad word. I was like, tell the president. She's like a conversation like uh, frederick is a menace because he went, found a bible, found a part in the bible, because there's a lot of bullshit in the bible. So he found a part in the bible because there's a lot of bullshit in the bible. So he found some bullshit in the bible while we were in the thrift store and then showed it to her.
Speaker 2:She started having a crisis. She started having a literal crisis, but women can do everything. He found a a misogynistic line in the bible and she was like but but my mom told me that women are capable of everything. And I was like girl, you cannot just go with the bible word for word. I was like honey, there's lots of misogynistic things that go against women in the bible and it's a little bit outdated, or or your god is real and he's telling you what to do, like he gave you this spirit to want to have desires.
Speaker 1:He just say, no, where all that shit in? Yeah, bring that in, you don't need all that, all right.
Speaker 2:I think we've stayed on this topic enough.
Speaker 1:Sometimes kids are ops, though. Big as ops, you're big as ops yeah, we're being honest all right, let's get into it, baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're being honest, all right.
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Speaker 4:That's crazy. I ain't put webby in this video that that I'm popping niggas. I'm starting to dance on them, bitches. I'm running down the short and down cause my paper long. It's a Friday night. My nigga ain't at home. I pull my bitches shot cause I'm drinking a lot. I'm outside again cause, bitch, I hate it home. It's giving her a face ayy teething game. Her face ayy teething game. It's giving her a face ayy teething game Her face ayy teething game.
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Speaker 1:Alright, man, you are now listening to Talk. Fnf TV, I'm your host Absurd Rhetoric. And I'm with my lovely and amazing co-host miss reality hi guys we're here to bring you another installment. We're back at it. A lot of shit to get into, man yeah gotta bring you guys some sexual health later on, because clearly y'all are all idiots. You should been showing us on the timeline.
Speaker 2:I have comprehensive sexual health educations and it shows on a regular basis but it's like so widespread too, like yeah, we can tell y'all.
Speaker 1:That's just a thing in the united states though I mean we could just tell a lot of y'all got the certificate just for attendance, like you didn't get the diploma, like that wasn't for you, that was for the other kids, a lot of political stuff and I voted. So we're gonna talk about that later on yes definitely went into the booth and did my thing proud of you. Baby space updates we got later on, so space wars again that's.
Speaker 1:It's getting hectic over there, but um, let's start with the BET awards so first off no, first off, you and your award theory that we are a situation you're supposed to have. You've fallen through like three times now.
Speaker 2:You're supposed to have your gentleman was not a red carpet for this. I saw three people on the bt award red carpet mooney long, fucking eva from uh no, what's her name? From america's next top model, that being the bt. Tyler perry shows now and um, like one man, like I just feel like this hip-hop awards.
Speaker 1:Loki, like before we start actually talking about it, they don't have to get their shit together I mean, I thought this would be a perfect opportunity for you and ty to really get into y'all bag for real plus ty's in la.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's always in la. Now we could have called him.
Speaker 1:We got phones, you know, I'm saying we, we are, we are a good operation over here, but, uh, better than bt, but no, let's get to. Uh, I want to. I want to make sure we preface this, because we did watch it, but we watched at 11 pm showing, so it already went over. So I'm not sure if they remove stuff out of it, because we didn't see but one or two people getting a war and they didn't even get the war. It was fat joe nobody was there.
Speaker 1:It was fat joe read off. I, I swear to god, I only remember fat joe reading off one award yeah, he was sitting in a section yeah, and it was that one weird dude looking right in the camera he was looking straight into the camera.
Speaker 2:It was so, but every time he was on screen he did that. Let's just get into it, y'all so the bt, the 2024 bt hip-hop awards, was a couple days ago and it was held in las vegas in a nightclub. It wasn't like an arena, it wasn't like it wasn't made for award shows and this wasn't even like the biggest nightclub either, like they held the bt awards, in truth that's what it looked like.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. It did look like a place where you probably had to pay like 60 at the door to get in. Yeah, like it definitely wasn't giving like a hundred dollars at the door kind of club there were a whole bunch of sections with just regular ass people in the sections.
Speaker 2:The only celebrity in the crowd was e40 because he was performing. They panned out to the audience so many times and I don't know why they kept doing that, because it was just a regular bunch of like people shout out to the regular people, that's and it wasn't even beautiful regular people.
Speaker 2:There were some like bad bitches in the crowd, but the crowd was full of aunties. Full of aunties like they just came from the usher concert to the bet awards. It was absolutely crazy. I saw so many like full rhinestone dresses. What is happening here?
Speaker 1:I see the thing was I thought I was gonna be taking it back from it because I had my fat joe on there. You know, fat joe and I I don't really like that beard that he shows up with why was fat joe hosting? The beard wasn't that bad, so that's why I could tolerate this, this one he's.
Speaker 2:He doesn't have a hosting personality to me at all. He was literally just reading off the teleprompter. There was no, there was no sauce, there was no nothing.
Speaker 1:It's like they just whoever was available was the person who hosted the bt hip-hop awards this year, and then, every time they had an available moment, they had to remind you to vote. Hey man, we ain't trying to make the party political, but make sure it is political continued and then it was sponsored by the little sheldon spinoff because that commercial kept playing like a thousand times it was the same commercials that were playing every time they could not get the.
Speaker 1:I see why it was small. They could not get the sponsors because who wants to? There were no cyphers all right, we got j1. You want to talk about j1?
Speaker 2:they had j1 in a nissan ultimo or whatever it was it was a nissan, but it was Imani's Nissan. Like they had him in a Nissan and he rapped for like 12 seconds.
Speaker 1:They did cut it off early. I end up listening to the full one. Do you want to play? No, okay, it was not good. I don't I don't want to listen to it. I'm not going to say J-Wan, his voice isn't somebody I would want to continue to listen to.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's a new york thing, for you might like it, but I don't even remember what his voice sounded like, what it what he talked about I don't remember anything other than it was 12 seconds of this nigga in a car rapping with a microphone and I thought that was weird as hell and then there was no soundproofing in the car, so it sounded kind of weird that's why I don't know if that's the the voice that you sell music with.
Speaker 1:That could just be your voice, but you know, it's like play, play, burkhardt and all them niggas got a voice they sell music with. So maybe that just wasn't your voice that you sell music. It just wasn't good, though, like I didn't, I wouldn't find it interesting and you didn't say anything that made me like, oh man, this guy can really think. But they had tis a son, remember we talked about that the other day, about him being a better artist than him. He wasn't good either. I didn't like his. He's like that fucking. That's why I don't want to put it all on jay won, because I think maybe just the setup wasn't good for rapping bt awards was good.
Speaker 1:Like putting a nigga in a car to rap is insane like it would nobody else. Yeah, like he was just by himself in the car, he was in the passenger seat.
Speaker 2:It just didn't make sense in any capacity and it wasn't interesting at all yeah, it was just a boring BET awards this year, like the BET awards, the BET hip-hop awards have been getting more and more boring. I don't know why there were no cyphers. I think it's because the new rappers or not even new, because it's not the cyphers aren't always new rappers. The rappers are not rapping anymore.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's nothing to gain from it anymore like if you went there and said some lyrics, your shit ain't gonna get more spins who freestyles now, other than meg?
Speaker 2:I haven't seen a freestyle go viral since meg. That's a rapper. Rapper though, like we know, sahai is gonna get some shit off, but like we gotta be clear.
Speaker 1:It seems like they didn't have the budget to do. No, they didn't have a budget at all. Maybe just don't have it because, like, really like everybody, most people had dancers on stage with them, which was cool.
Speaker 2:The performance all of the dancers outfits horrible. The dancers weren't even that good. There weren't even complicated, like stage elements going on, nothing, everything was low budget. Down to the artists outfits that were performing, down to the dancers behind them, everything was bad but to me that felt hip-hop, though, if I'm being honest, it felt amateur hour no that shit felt hip-hop.
Speaker 1:The first few performances felt amateur hour. I'll say that. What was his name? Boss man dilo yeah he wasn't good.
Speaker 2:I didn't like his performance no, he was just walking around. You had fat joe perform first and then boss man dilo perform the second. Both of them low energy, fat niggas walking around the stage giving us absolutely nothing but it got better as the as it progressed.
Speaker 1:I like trina's performance trina was good.
Speaker 2:That's the only thing, caricia though I was about to say why was young miami out there in a split?
Speaker 1:I think right now we need to six more months on young miami I don't want to see you right young miami needs to be seen, like giving food to like children in need, like you're in florida, like you should be doing some hurricane relief.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't do the bt awards yeah, I don't know like clean up your image, you need some pr.
Speaker 1:And then the fact that you called us the award show that's the. That's really my only right, because everything else about this felt gritty hip-hop and that's why I was enjoying it for the most part. I like low budget things, so like I have fun in those environments because I can see what people try to pull out. Um, but the fact that nobody, like we saw, get an award because even the one that it was like the duo war right where metro and a future one for the best duo yeah and they weren't even there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody was there to accept awards. Nobody did like a video call or nothing, like we didn't get any kind of engagement and it was. I want to talk about the nigga who cleaned house. Uh, mr, for the people, for the culture, and then he was nowhere to be found, kendrick lamar, of course he didn't show up really quick.
Speaker 2:Before we get into the the performances I mean before we get into the awards let's talk about the performances, just really quickly. Two chains performed two times. Yeah, I remember that he came out two times um 301. Baby, the left, do it. Let me see you do it right, like I uh-huh, um flo j performed why you need to be shooting up jump shots, baby girl and it was. It wasn't even on the. It was a pre-recorded on a different stage 17 people in the crowd.
Speaker 1:That joint was extremely jarring when they, when they did that little crowd, shot big boogie boss mandela.
Speaker 2:We e40 performed um apparent did gloria perform. Gloria wasn't there. Why is she on this list? I don't remember seeing her. No, she was not there, juicy jay performed.
Speaker 1:His was good. I wonder, was that? Was that money fake, though? Because he did drop them bands and he, I think, I think he threw and mixed a fake. Yeah, probably because he was throwing money from himself too.
Speaker 2:So um roscoe dash performed with soldier boy and then trina and young miami I think the soldier boy performance was actually really good.
Speaker 1:I enjoy soldier boy. I forgot he did that song with rock. I forgot he was on the way to ross.
Speaker 2:What happened to roscoe dash?
Speaker 1:oh, he got kicked out of lana. He was out there trying to play around, play tough a little bit and he got kicked out of lana. Been in augusta for years, oh no, I remember when that happened too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1:And then what was the other nigga that was with ti um? Ti performed no, I'm just saying he was with ti before. It was like it was the same futuristic. Was that roscoe dash where he did with ti? It was ti young dro song. I think that might have been roscoe uh, but I remember roscoe das. Yeah, he got kicked out, yeah. He was trying to play too tough and it was like nah that's unfortunate you gotta get out of here.
Speaker 1:Shorty put Mr Shorty put it on me Uh but we're about to get into next.
Speaker 2:You said um awards that were not given out, so that's another thing. There were no actual awards up to accept any awards except travis it kind of seemed like a bt concert series it was not an award show.
Speaker 1:It felt like how they were doing it when we had the pandemic yes, and everybody just put music after music after music I enjoyed versus.
Speaker 2:Versus was better. I enjoyed that, though I enjoyed this was literally a better production than this.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm saying there were there were better there were better uh verses that were than this performance yes, I would say on average, if you took all of them in its entirety, it was about the same okay, same product.
Speaker 2:So hip-hop artists of the year was kendrick lamar who cleaned up nigga won everything.
Speaker 1:You were saying yeah, and it was like 12, which is 12 bt wars. He won yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:It was crazy, that's insane song of the year, not Year. Not Like Us. Kendrick Lamar. Impact of the Year. Hip-hop album of the year was Pink Friday 2, nicki Minaj. Best hip-hop video. Not Like Us, Kendrick Lamar. Best breakthrough hip-hop artist. Sexy Red. Best collaboration was Like that. Future Metro Boomin. Kendrick Lamar. Best Duo Future Metro Boomin. Best Live Performer Missy Elliott. Lyricist of the Year. Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1:Video Director of the Year Dave Free and Kendrick Lamar, that was crazy when I seen Dave Free won the Director of the Year because yo what in the world? What are we doing? Here yo. I think Kendrick won it too right. Huh, he won Director of the year because yo, what in the world? What are we doing here? Yo, I think he won it too, right. Huh, he won director of the year too with him. Right, it was co-directed by them. They're not like us video I don't know um.
Speaker 2:Producer of the year was alchemist who? Produced like us I think, or one of the songs he did produce, one of the diss songs um dj of the year also alchemist the alchemist um hip-hop, best hip-hop platform club shea shea okay, that was the craziest one.
Speaker 1:You want to talk about.
Speaker 2:That one real quick, yeah because so on the list was bootleg kev, complex drink champs, million dollars worth of game on the radar, the breakfast club, joe budden podcast, the shade room and double xl okay.
Speaker 1:So the one thing that's that's messed up is that dj X not on there in any capacity. Fuck.
Speaker 2:DJ Akademik.
Speaker 1:I know, you're going to say that, but regardless of what you want to say, he is deserving to be on that. He covered the Drake beef better than anyone else. Roy and Maul probably deserve to be on there too. You probably could put them on there, but Joe probably should have won. I'm not even going to hate you. Everybody think we hate on Joe.
Speaker 2:I think should have won that as far as. As far as hip-hop platform, then I do agree with you, I feel like they jbp should have won.
Speaker 1:The shannon sharp is more of a comedian show than it is hip-hop, because his biggest it's either his media, it's comedian and sports yeah, his two biggest.
Speaker 2:I don't think you could label club shea shea as a hip-hop platform. He has rappers on there sometimes, but it's not a hip-hop platform. That's not what it's, but it's not a hip-hop platform.
Speaker 1:That's not what it's based on his biggest acts, of his biggest performing uh shows have either been comedians or um athletes, athletes yeah, you know what I'm saying, so it's just odd for him. I know why they're doing it. It's money being paid, things are being exchanged, uh, favors are being done here and there. I'm pretty sure we're gonna see shannon do a bt spot somewhere else, you know what I'm saying so we see what's going on.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at shannon for it, but it's like, where's the integrity of the request? Like if you are encouraging people, like if you're saying this is the best hip-hop platform, you're encouraging people to strive for this, but then hip-hop is a third, fourth note on it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, so it's like how are you saying this is what you want to implement going forward? That's what I look at these awards to be like. You're the person, especially these cultural wars, like country music award. Like I look at it as this is who this faction of people believe to be the standard of what we're doing right now, and for at least that one, you do all the kendrick lamar shit. He did what he had to do this year. I don't care, but for that and just feel the wind. That's egregious, yeah, especially coming from our people like that's fucking nuts um.
Speaker 1:So hustler of the year is 50 cent like that's like why do we have hustler of the year? Why do we need that? You might just call him entrepreneur of the year or black entrepreneur of the year yes, that would have been more appropriate. Yeah, because hustler has this like negative connotation, like he's deceiving us. Yeah, he just fucking. He makes movies and tv shows.
Speaker 2:There's no deception I think maybe we should take the negative connotation out of hustler, because I feel like people think of hustler as just like somebody who works hard and who really like tries to get to it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like we should put back in there, because we shouldn't be in this mindset. You gotta hustle and bustle for somebody else to make way more than what you're making off of it.
Speaker 3:I do, you know me when we get into that worker politics I don't.
Speaker 1:Don't try to encourage me to work harder when you're not paying me more.
Speaker 2:Best featured verse was like that uh, the winner was kendrick lamar's verse.
Speaker 1:Uh, impact track was not like us, the pg lang fund, this, were they one of the sponsors?
Speaker 2:like that's what it looks like pd and pg lang maybe oh um, and best international flow was gets from the uk I have no idea, I've never heard of gets before yeah, so there was a couple people from the uk. It was two people from the uk bashy steflandon, and then um maglera, dough boy from south africa, blackie from south africa anything, are you?
Speaker 1:just? What are those names referenced to?
Speaker 2:no, those are. Those are who was nominated for best international flow oh smd france lays mc france. I don't know any of these people, buddha from from Brazil and somebody else from Brazil it's gonna be the next wave.
Speaker 1:Just wait, we're gonna be sitting and saying these names like they normal soon, yeah, oh man but overall, like I get what you're upset with it and I see what other people saying, like it looks cheap and poor and all that stuff, I just appreciate the gritty hip-hop of it. I just hate that the people who are supposed to be hip hop don't show out for it, even if it is quote unquote low budget, because it was in a club with sections, Get a section Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:And then the Cyphers like I, the BET Hip Hop Awards have always been like a cultural moment because of the Cyphers and I think taking the Cyphers away was a huge mistake. Like they, those could have been pre-recorded and just added in too. But like I wonder what the the thought process of like not doing them. Like I don't think that y'all couldn't get rappers to do the cyphs I think it's the artists.
Speaker 1:The artists don't do that anymore. That's not something that one of. The last time you even seen one somebody go up to the radio station and do one of those like the leaker, la leakers and stuff like that yeah, they don't even go viral like the only one that I can remember going viral was meg even those, those freestyles don't go viral the same way they used to.
Speaker 1:That that art is just, it's being kind of lost. It's like, really it's just an adult, a dopamine hit. That's what music is now. That's why I think gloria is doing so well, because her music is just a straight dopamine hit she really she be doing a damn thing so that's why I can't really sit there and be like oh, I'm mad that they ain't doing the cyphers.
Speaker 1:When it's like the cypher and ain't making no money, no more, it ain't even looking like it's making any money. The illusion of having that kind of skill just think of, like battle rap where that's at. So that's what. I don't have a problem with it. I just feel bad that everybody wants to say, oh, what about the b2? What about b2? And then we go to the b2 awards and it's a bunch of regular people that I could have went to the club with and fat joe they did the cypher last year that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It just seems to be not as what you call. And then we have to say we had six commercials. Fair, who, how much money do they have? Six commercials it was just little. Sheldon's spinoff was literally every time it went off.
Speaker 2:We saw that at the beginning and we saw it as the last commercial yeah, before it came back on oh my god, yo, I think that y'all should have just not put on the bt awards if the funds weren't there. The bt hip-hop awards, because the bt awards also happened and it was not bad, or?
Speaker 1:maybe we can need to get some more people involved in this shit. Jay-z, I know you're going away with the nfl now and re-up to deal with him, but when?
Speaker 2:is it going to be re-up the nfl deal?
Speaker 1:yeah, he just re-upped. They just announced it. I don't know if they announced how long, but they did say he is going to be continuing doing it now. Oh, wow, okay. So you have all of this, and to me that's what makes it funny. To me is like Kendrick Lamar gets all of this love for being the culture. An event like this. That is literally on its knees, stroking him 12 times. He couldn't even make an appearance. He can't make a show. They don't have no TDE, pg, lang, anything but this is the nigga. Y'all saying is oh he, hip-hop, he for the culture, he, what we've been missing it's really sad to see the.
Speaker 2:I was sad watching the bt hip-hop awards. I was like why do black people not value this? Why don't like we all just stop watching bt whenever we get our own shit, that's like for us, we eventually like throw it away.
Speaker 1:I feel like I mean we've been so bt. I mean it hasn't been owned by a black person in decades, mad long too I mean it's just another product like the telenovo channels and all that shit, like it's just another product to them yeah, and they don't have to put a whole bunch of money and they won't we need to stop selling our shit?
Speaker 1:I mean, you can't tell people that because their goal is to make more money, so, and to do less work. We've just seen it with ti. We we talked about them getting that award. What's the first thing they announced from the family?
Speaker 1:he's not gonna be doing shows, though well the girl, the daughter, buys a car and then he announces that they're no longer doing any live shows. He's no longer. He's done with that. They just didn't try to play like him. Oh, I matured past that kind of thing, didn't he try to say that you can't mature past hip-hop? No, not that mature. He saw my live performance, you like what? I just think that when you, this shows that these people aren't hard working, they're not that much more exceptional than the rest of us. Because what do everybody say if I hit the lottery, what I'm doing, stop working yeah, so I don't think it's hard working.
Speaker 2:I just want people to stop um pursuing a career in music just for financial gain. It's easy to say, but, like, I really want people who are passionate about making music to make music and I want that to be the only reason that you're making music. It's a very altruistic or whatever point of view, but I would like for only people who are passionate about the art that they're making to make the art.
Speaker 1:I mean that would sound nice, but we see what a hot song can put you into the algorithm. And then when you just start putting your life out there like that.
Speaker 1:It can be easily consumed and so it's like, why would I make sit in the studio for some people say it'll take what? And I like two days, three days to do a song or three or four songs, stuff like that. Folks who, like you, would say, care about the art, care about the music. Two or three days they may only do one song and to completion. So why am I going to spend that many hours to try to make pennies off of my product when I put it on dsps or whatever? Trying to sell it when I can just make a hit, get popular and then get money everywhere else and focus on everywhere else is gonna bring my money, yeah, and then it just affects things like the bt war. So I mean, it is what it is, man. It's just unfortunately part of the system and there's nobody who wants to invest it in the real way no, maybe ti will with his newfound funds?
Speaker 1:I don't think he will yeah, I think we're not gonna hear from ti.
Speaker 2:I think he's probably just gonna open, maybe like another thing in atlanta, or, um, open another trap museum in another state, maybe like la or something like that, new york and I don't think he's gonna do anything that's gonna benefit his community, because none of these rich niggas do much that benefit their community. No, it's not only docket.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, it's not important to him. Why would it be? You know, sexual health is an important thing. I think that it's been kind of clear that it's been extremely lacking yeah, over the last few uh forever days I've just been, it's been more exposed.
Speaker 1:The light has been on it y'all have all run around like cockroaches and we've seen now that y'all are miseducated individuals and they don't understand. So, um, there was an individual in the we've seen it become any sex worker topics very often, uh but it was an individual in the sex work industry. She went out young. She's about 19, 20 years old, I don't know, I think she was like 19 20 years old and she goes out and she claims that another performer, content creator in that industry knowingly gave her, uh, herpes yeah so what she claims is she saw a open wound on the man's genitals and continued to still perform with him.
Speaker 1:And why contracted it herself? Uh, the gentleman by goes by the name of gucci. Third leg pause, if necessary. Um, and pretty much after that happened, it went into a frenzy on twitter because, if you don't know about twitter, the x community is. A lot of the sex workers post their content there. They get paid off of it there and they do a lot of spaces. Spaces was crazy.
Speaker 2:Everybody was talking about who worked with them, who did it, they were talking about the test and all that stuff it went crazy on tiktok too, because there were a lot of like streamers and stuff that had like people in common with who worked with her, with people who have slept with gucci.
Speaker 1:Third leg yeah, because basically I think aiden ross sky brie had said she performed when it was a white girl that he did um I don't know about the white people, but the shea, shea frost yeah, he had the girl yeah, on his show and he had to, like, get tested on stream or something and show his results.
Speaker 1:See, but that was the part that I was upset about, because the streamers got a hold of it and just turned it straight into content and the thing about young niggas, but see, that's the thing was like there is no code to them. You know, I'm saying I don't, I don't have a problem with you making this content, but like, really come with scientific if information, something that you could go back, and at least that's not. That's crazy to think that, to say they should.
Speaker 1:They should at least have some type of real information that's been researched or discussed and talked about. Amongst that, I understand making into a gang, like the nigga had a fake doctor in there talking about you allergic. I mean, you you got herpes, but you got niggonitis, or something like that. Oh, I didn't niggonitis yeah that's what deshaun did, the deshaun frost or whatever. He ran around his house talking about it like oh no, I got the n nidus and it's like okay, I get it, but then y'all aren't really explaining nothing.
Speaker 1:Like you could at least had a real doctor there, gave a five minutes to just talk about sexual health in a real way nobody wants education and nobody wants things to be rational.
Speaker 2:He like he it's a it's a show that he has to put on, so he's gonna get a fake doctor, um come on and put on a show with him, and then he's gonna make it as entertaining as possible. Like it's not. I don't think the streamers feel that they have a responsibility to put out accurate information because of the amount of content that they need to put out too. Like they be streaming for hours and hours on end no, they do, I'm, but I still.
Speaker 1:That's the problem with the content. There is no, there's no need for you to have any level of accountability, any level of just care about your fellow man in it. That's the part of me I feel. Even if we talk about, we joke about something, I want us to still be able to go back and give good information that if you took it to a reputable source, they would say, okay, yeah, this is what they meant or this is what they're talking about, and it's just crazy. So I think this is a clip of the girl right here.
Speaker 8:I just want to play real quick sex culture and whole culture and all that kind of stuff. Again, I am in no way trying to defame anybody. Um, I am not trying to hurt anybody when saying this. I am just trying to save people from going through what a lot of people have gone through in this industry. It is real. And there is worse happening to behind the scenes. People are catching HIV too.
Speaker 1:So I think is again in that industry there is very. Their version of safe sex looks a little different. It's not always with condoms and stuff like that, it's with multiple testings there's very strenuous requirements when you're a sex worker that's working for a company specifically.
Speaker 2:But if you're like independent, that's up to you to require shit like that. But like my chart is online, like you can access that, you can pull it up and access it. So sex workers usually get tested weekly they try to stay regular yeah like it's.
Speaker 1:They know their status like very rigorously, but that's what I'm saying. It's not really these people with companies anymore.
Speaker 2:This is gorilla yeah this is guys who I just got a camera and a platform.
Speaker 1:and here we go. What it seemed like with her is just from people discussing about it. She kind of fell for the guy and she kind of thought this was going to be a bigger thing between them two. And then when it came out that it wasn't going to be that and she was just another one on the list, that's when this kind of defaming exercise came, because a lot of people don't know you can perform with herpes and sex work. You just have to sign a document that says it.
Speaker 2:As long as you're not having an active flare up, I believe then you can have safe sex with herpes. There's like pills and drugs for you to take now too that keep everything together, and then also herpes is not on the regular std panel so they'll test you for hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Herpes is not on there because there are so many different types of herpes. And then there are false positives that come out also all the time and it's not really like a super reliable test. And then also, um, if herpes was regularly tested, everybody would have herpes. There's, everyone has herpes in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 1:So like it's odd in the sense of like you got cold sores you have again the genital herpes, the, the hv2, I believe that's called. Then you also have like kids, like when you're a little kid, you can get hand and foot uh, foot and mouth disease yeah which is basically, you have a herpes virus on it as a baby yeah that can now show up and things of that nature.
Speaker 1:So people look at it. But it's also the same token like herpes. Especially if you're medicated on it. It doesn't really change your life like you can listen to countless people, countless doctors, talk about it. You want to show up on any kind of test. You won't.
Speaker 1:Uh have usually undetected and also for a lot of people. They don't. Folks don't know this. You could have it and never show a sign of it. You could never have a flare up. It can be inside of your body and you never know, and you may be able to spread it, but you wouldn't be able to know that you had it yourself.
Speaker 1:So it's like there's a lot of stuff that people don't understand about it and, just to be honest, a lot of y'all are just the losers in this world who want to empower stigmas because you want to feel like you're better than someone.
Speaker 1:Because when you know you look in the mirror, you're not, you're corny, you're lame, nobody wants to fuck you, nobody. So you have to like go to things like sexual health and comparing that to you and other people so that you can feel better than yourself. But you're not. Like you're really just empowering loser shit. So you really should just think about educating yourself and understand that just because someone has something, that doesn't mean they're not human. They're still a person and you're not better than them. Yeah, you're probably still worse because like people think of, like this std thing, like it's just like you go around and, oh, you just sleep with so many people recklessly and that, and that doesn't really how a lot of people happen. A lot of times it happens one person's doing that and he's infecting people who are not doing that yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's like you have no idea like you're in. Sometimes you catch stds in a committed monogamous relationship. One person is monogamous, one person isn't like. You don't always have to be a whore to catch STDs.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's just an accident, an unfortunate accident you ever get one of them calls before from somebody? I have, they said she said she was burning no yeah, she called me up and was like I don't know what was going on, but I had chlamydia and I'm like okay that's cool like. I'm't know what was going on, but I had chlamydia and I'm like, okay, that's cool, I'm going to see what's going on.
Speaker 1:Because I get regularly my blood work done, so it's not like it's getting tested for that, but if something like that came up in my blood, they would have to tell me. So I was like what happened to me and I know me and you wasn't being the safest in regards to that Went to there. It was good. No, committee. Yeah, I'm like no, get off me. Gucci, third leg he goes on the offense. He ends up with uh, dj academics and aiden ross, so they do like a live collab screen stream together where he goes on the screen and he shows his my chart from 2023. So my man's about 10 months in. My guy, you could have been got a new one so if you're a sex worker, then that's concerning that.
Speaker 2:Your last std test was 10 months or the one that you can produce. Yeah, no, you should have one from like no less than two weeks ago if you regularly, no less than two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:If you regularly are performing with new, new women on your platform, so then he goes down and he shows the list and shows that he does have, uh, cold sores, like he does get. He has the virus that creates cold sores or something. So he got this positive on there and what you got to understand on the internet and me and her have these conversations all the time is. You are broadcasting to a majority of idiots people.
Speaker 2:People who don't know things.
Speaker 1:So if you can give them any little bit of slide through to get in, they're going to take it. Yeah, so the fact that you got positive anything on that test, they took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1:They're going to run with it. Mr Gucci, third leg To the point where he was supposed to come up with a recent test to Aiden Ross the next day he didn't even show up. That nigga Aiden was pissed. There's like he's definitely got it now. Yeah, but I don't, like I said to me, I just think we keep empowering these stigmas overall just because again it just makes us feel like we're better than what we are but in the same token, like we could be helping way more people not have these experiences where they feel like I gotta kill, like people feel like they gotta kill themselves if they were contracted with herpes or something like that which is like that's insane that's not necessary that stems from literally public pressure that doesn't come from anything else.
Speaker 1:Like I'm just reading some of these tweets of people about it and it was funny, this one girl went down a list of all the things that she's. You know, I'm negative for x, y and z.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god and, and then I said this stuff she was like, and then she ended the tweet which killed me. This is what pissed me off. I'm gonna read all this. She says no herpes, no chlamydia, no gonduria, no hiv, no stds. Anybody who calls it stds is that's a, that's a red flag that they're an idiot. Because anybody now who is actually informed and talks to doctors about this regularly calls them stis. So the fact that she's calling it std let you know people still call them std, yeah, but they're wrong. That's what I'm saying. They're wrong to call it that. Um, and then she ends with health is very important. So I respond and said you don't care about health, you care about empowering, a stigma that makes you feel superior to others and at the end, that's all it is.
Speaker 2:That's all it is there's lots of different ways that people on the internet feel like they're.
Speaker 1:They're better than other people one more thing I'll add here too. No one's here telling you you should, or you're forced, to have sex with anyone who has these conditions or anything like that. We're saying that you can just treat people like they're human, and if you don't want to engage with that, respectfully don't engage with it yeah but don't disrespect them. You don't have to punch down on people. You don't have to feel like you're better than they're. Probably.
Speaker 1:They're probably not even really punching down, you just feel like you're punching down because it's just the perspective that you're looking at it at yeah that's the the real insane part about it. We've been meaning to talk about this girl for a while now. We've talked about her sports wise, but now that she's in the podcasting world, we kind of gotta. I feel like it's on us to bring her up a little bit more yeah, because she's been wilding a little bit her, her.
Speaker 2:He's been having a good amount of like viral moments on her show.
Speaker 1:She's definitely making it to bird castle angel reese, uh, from chicago. She's a. Well, she's a. What is the chicago? What I can't think. Sky, chicago, sky asking me about some sports. She has her own podcast and there's been we've been meaning to talk about it for a while because she's had like different little moments on there yeah uh, she had one where it was basically like the group chat call with her lotto who else was on there?
Speaker 1:where they were just giving it up really they was talking about it in like detail, about the kind of niggas they after. That joint was crazy. I thought it was interesting because I wanted to run this by you. She said during that time too that she felt like she could only be with nba players, like that's the only guy that's angel yeah, like that's the only guy she's dating is nba players, did she say why?
Speaker 1:I think, just I think in her mind that's the perfect combination for her. Well, yeah, she's tall as fuck, but I think she also looks at somebody like the kai girl who's with jaylen brown and you remember they was all together so I'm pretty sure she sees that as if the girl who's getting three points a game is getting this. I should be somewhere in that market as well. You know what I'm saying, because I get more rebounds than her. To me, that's her know, she's young, so I feel like that's where her brain is operating at.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because even then she dropped a video not too long ago. She's talking about the WNBA not being able to pay her lifestyle and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she said her rent is like $7,000 and the WNBA doesn't pay her bills, but that's not surprising the W lot.
Speaker 1:She makes probably most of her money off endorsements and the other stuff that she does but to me it seems like why would you do that when the league is trying to push up and get you know things into a better situation? Why would you do what? Why are you being bringing in the negativity? Why are you bringing something that can be sparked out with the negativity about regarding pay and things of that nature?
Speaker 2:do you not think it's just visibility? We mean just like we're having a conversation about wnba and their pay and their salary. So do you mean just visibly like we're having a conversation about w? Nba and they're paying their salary? So do you think that we would be having this conversation if she didn't say that?
Speaker 1:I feel like in a more formal way, not in a I'm on a live, almost. Look like I'm drunk talking trash. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:like I didn't know she was on live. That's what. That's what I heard.
Speaker 1:I didn't know she was. I'm not saying I talk about what it looked like. I wouldn't say I didn't say anything what she was. I said what it looked like I look like I'm on a live inebriated talking trash. To me that just doesn't look a good look. I don't there's nothing wrong with having a conversation about the fair pay and things of that nature, but when you do it like that, it brings more hate to the league than it does promise.
Speaker 2:You think that she could have had I don't know just it kind of teeter-totters on the respectability politics thing? Like you think that she should have brought it up in a more respectable manner instead of just like casually on live?
Speaker 1:yeah, because you've already signed a contract, you've already agreed to the terms, yeah, so don't get on there and shit on us because you can get fined for that in nba, can you? Yeah, they'll find that's the contract detriment to the team. Okay, so you could. You could get fined for that. There's a whole bunch of issues that could arise from that kind of conversation, and to not put it in a more formal manner again allows for the league to take, whatever they're going, you know precautions they're going to take against her. To me, what seems to be the problem is and nobody seems to be talking about this in a real way and it's disappointing, especially that there's tons of older black women who played in the league and are not addressing this. There is a serious issue where all of the women are conducting themselves, are looks to be moonlighting as escort video girls and the only white girl is just gets to play basketball the whole time what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:look at, okay, angel reese just posted a post a picture had her ass all out in the picture yeah, she had them legs spread open. Yeah, she cool you do that, but that comes with a thought and a connotation. She said earlier, before she got drafted oh, I've been sexualized. So now, when you say that, people, I'm talking about how the audience I'm not talking about how she needs to perform the audience sees that and says, ok, she doesn't, she has a problem with that being sexualized.
Speaker 2:And because, again, she's not saying I'm being harassed, she's not saying I'm uh, I'm being uh taunted, I'm being disrespectful, I'm being sexualized. That's a general statement. You made a statement making it seem like there's a bunch of other women doing so.
Speaker 1:Who else jade?
Speaker 2:what's her name? Her, because, like the, her name was jada, something she just had a video.
Speaker 1:She just had a picture where she had her ass and some little baby ass shorts. And then she had another one she she showed her forward her look because the pretty girls are definitely doing that, like the the the girls are doing it. Yeah, I haven't, but I'm saying this I just need, like I need, you to give me more than two examples you see, the kai kai had an outfit where she was dressed out. Um, she had very revealing showing her. Uh, she was like a photo shoot or whatever.
Speaker 2:But the women in the WNBA Also. Some of them are bad bitches.
Speaker 1:Nobody say they are I'm saying so what I'm saying is take a step back. Don't look at the individuals anymore. Look at the step back.
Speaker 2:Caitlin is not a bad bitch. Ok, cool, again, take a step back. All she can do is dribble. Ok, again, take a step back. All she can do is dribble, Okay again.
Speaker 1:take a step back. If we're talking about a basketball league where the one girl who is just playing basketball could arguably be the one making the most money off endorsements and everything else, the white girl gets to play basketball and the rest of y'all have to show y'all ass for attention, do they?
Speaker 1:have to, or are they just choosing To make money? Yes, they have to show their ass for attention, do you not? You don't look at that as a problem, just like from a stepping back where I'm like cool, do what you want, respectability on your own personal uh, determination factor of that. But now I'm looking back and it just we are enabling a system where the black women have to come here and essentially be akin to video.
Speaker 2:If kg girls was a was a generally conventionally attractive girl who could do the same things as angel and didn't, then I would agree with you. But she can't like if there's a white girl decided to have a photo shoot, the same as angel did we.
Speaker 1:She wouldn't be sexualized because she's not sexy I'll argue, I'll put a different statement to you. So the number two pick in the wma draft was also a white girl. Tall white girl, very stunning. Everyone has. That's one of the things they say. She's like a supermodel. You don't see her in none of these kind of imagery okay even before then she may have worn what is her name?
Speaker 2:who is?
Speaker 1:who is this lady? Cameron brink, I believe that's her name. I've never heard of her. I'll bring her up for you. She, I don't see the same kind of performance she does. Even though she does some of the bad, the baddie stuff, she does some of the uh, the baddie, kind of oh, I'm wearing this outfit, wearing that outfit, got my hair all done.
Speaker 1:See, look the most stuff you see her and that's revealing is sportswear and she's a stunning girl. Like she did the skims thing. But that was an nba, that was a wmba promotion. So I'm just saying, like you can do it and not have to look like you're a video girl, ig model. But it seems that the only popular ones that are black in the wma are ig looking like ig models when they're not playing ball and, again, do what you want. But you also have to look at what is the system pushing y'all to do and there needs to be, and I'm just, I'm just perplexed that there is no elder black statesman who has said this or stateswoman that has said this who have made this call she a whole bad bitch on her instagram.
Speaker 2:Let me see, let me pull it up, is it?
Speaker 1:revealing though because you can be a bad bitch in nice clothes. Let me. Let me pull up her instagram like are you seeing her ass? Is she like turned around behind? She's not turned around, that's what I'm saying. Do you see her back?
Speaker 2:in any of these pictures. The white girls don't be turned around, though, because they don't yes, they do.
Speaker 1:They have an ass. They will. That's all I'm saying. Is you kind of got to think about it critically?
Speaker 2:yeah, they're like, they're like cute girl like yeah it's nothing crazy.
Speaker 1:The skims is the most revealing thing and that got the sign off from the wmba yeah, the skims and um this, this one too, this.
Speaker 2:That's not that bad either, though she's been.
Speaker 1:She's not showing her ass. Oh, this is still skims, you know, I'm saying she's not showing her ass. That's the thing I'm saying about like I don't have a problem a girl in revealing clothing. But you know me, the moment I see your IG and you got your back on your IG, I'm saying, okay, you just get hit. You're not a woman to take seriously anymore.
Speaker 2:In my mind.
Speaker 1:She doesn't really do that, but that, to me, is a very clear sign of having a boundary with this. I'm going to be sexy. I'm not going to start blurring the lines into whoredom and harlotdom. Come on, I'm going to be sexy. I'm not going to start blurring the lines into whoredom and harlotdom. That's what. Come on, I can find you pictures of Angel Reese that look just like Ruby Rose, yeah. So again, to me, that's an issue.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a problem Because only the black women are doing it, because only the black women are the ones that are doing it like that even the kelsey plumb girl who they be going crazy over her? She don't, you don't see her, nothing like that.
Speaker 2:She gets to strictly just be basketball. I have to look all these people up we talked about kelsey plumb.
Speaker 1:She's the one who dated the uh, the wide receiver for the giants okay, I still have to look her up.
Speaker 2:Remember he did that corny music video I I still I'm just trying to refresh your memory, because, yeah, but I don't know who, what she looked like, so that's why I gotta look her up and then she had kayla nicole on there doing this bird cast shit like that's the shit, that's killing me too.
Speaker 1:Where it's like there's nothing here, where it's like they're everything feels like it flows the way it should be.
Speaker 2:You just a bird that that kayla nicole shit was corny as fuck, like I think that she should have just stayed quiet because you being the scorned woman was a better look for you than I don't know what you look like now you just look corny as fuck, like you look lame as hell.
Speaker 2:She told this story on um angel reese's podcast and she basically I didn't even know this, we wouldn't have. Well, some people knew because you posted it, but the rest of us wouldn't have known this. Apparently, she was with Iman before Iman was with Tiana. Iman left her for Tiana Taylor. Apparently, if you want to find your wife, date Kayla Nicole and then you'll find your wife. She'll put you in the right direction. You'll find an upstanding woman.
Speaker 1:after that, she'll be your North Star.
Speaker 6:Yeah, you'll find a uh, a woman after that, she'll be your north star.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he left her for tiana, which is not a bad move at all, um, and for some reason, she decides to dress up as tiana taylor from the faded video for halloween after iban left her. I don't know what type of twisted, convoluted, insecure, lame bitch shit that is. I don't know what type of weird ass backflips your mind had to do to make you think that was okay and then leave the photo up and then, multiple years later, go on a podcast and tell that shit as if it's some cute or funny or interesting story, like what the fuck was that? I was just sitting there like that's what happened when they swirlers.
Speaker 1:That's what the swirlers do.
Speaker 2:That's what they do. She could have kept this to your fucking self she showed.
Speaker 1:She showed her ass that whole day. That's what the swirlers do, that's what they be on. I was like, okay, bitch, you could have kept this to your fucking self. She showed her ass that whole. Then there's another one where she's talking about the reason why her and Travis broke up was the rumor was he wasn't trying to foot the bill for her anymore. And Angel asked her do you go 50-50? And she says does she look like she go 50-50? No, kayla, you look like you go to pay the whole bill, you by yourself. And then she even admit she admitted to it later on the thing like that it was a financial thing.
Speaker 1:Uh, going on with that where it was like, yeah, he wasn't trying to cover everything for her. She later on admitted that and like she said it on the low, but she admitted that. And it's like what does he? What would he get from being married to you? Like, what would he get from forwarding your lifestyle? Like at some point you got to kind of put that in your head the flip was crazy, because now he's with taylor swift, america's white sweetheart yeah, somebody.
Speaker 1:He'll never have to worry about that with no she has more money than him 10 times over much more money than him 20 times over probably she has private jets he gotta call his owner to get a private jet like goddamn.
Speaker 2:So that's why she got so much more emotion than he do, right and to me it's just.
Speaker 1:It's so funny to me because it's like yo, do you not understand what you bring to the nigga? Like you in particular, kayla, you are a nice looking girl, ain't shit really. Else, if you ain't being quiet, if you're not being cooperative, you're not really that much after that. And I could just see with the the antics that she's done since then.
Speaker 2:She's not that kind of lady. No, because of the antics that you've done since then, like I'm so mad that I'm not mad at travis for leaving you iman shepherd travis kelsey.
Speaker 1:And what do you have to show for it now? Nothing.
Speaker 2:Time and a used up cooch. You're just a fumbler of rich niggas. You fumble rich niggas.
Speaker 1:She seems like one of those girls who she feels like I am enough in my present form and that that's why I deserve all this. And it's like no, you're enough. When you comply, you're beautiful. That puts you in the running. But when niggas like that, if they see that you have a trend of not complying, there's nothing that you bring to them but trouble. So I could like she. Her performance and the way she act like this make me understand why these niggas go after the old broads now. Because if you acting like that, you around these niggas age why, why wouldn't I just go with the old bitch? Well, she know how to act.
Speaker 2:The old broads have codes that they definitely go by and there are some of the is it codes or is it? I've learned from past mistakes nah the they, these rappers, be going after the same chicks because they know the rules but I don't feel like.
Speaker 1:I feel like over time they learn, yeah, the rules from mistakes and then they. They like drea. To me, I feel like drea thinks about all the niggas that she was, with the fact that she was more mouthy. We've seen her before all the time.
Speaker 2:Now we barely hear from her, unless she's selling us something I think the girls that, like the older girls that got picked by the young niggas, like we didn't really hear from them that much, like they were never, the girls who talk that like I didn't, I've never. She was on like basketball wives and stuff. But nikki, baby, she's tall. Yeah, you're right, they talk, they learn from their experience.
Speaker 1:They shut the fuck up. And now they know. Yeah, you hear them. Now they got they. I was watching the clip the other day. Lavar was talking about how much he loves her. He's because she got her her business together she doing all this and she got her own brand business for a long time, since she was on love and hip-hop that took time beforehand. She was probably a a leech.
Speaker 2:She probably well on love and hip-hop, from what I remember. Like she had she. Her parents have money so she was using like you still reach off now, yeah, no, but like she, she was somebody who had that standard for her entire life because she comes from like a from a pretty yeah, that's what they said.
Speaker 1:They come here for money clubs. They like strip clubs. Yeah, so she was, but that's still a different kind of money though it is.
Speaker 2:She was in the family business and then she had like her own clothing boutique and she ran like the dad's clubs and stuff like that. So yeah, so she she been, had she come from a business acclimate.
Speaker 1:Yes, that doesn't mean we got the same sensibilities, because just because you got money you don't get class no, definitely she was on love and hip-hop. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like it's just, there's just a difference with it, but the the fact that he was what LaVar saw was the fact that he just loved her business Ackerman.
Speaker 2:You know who I be thinking about, though that I feel like should be some rapper's baby mama, something Bria Bria Miles.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, she used to date an NBA player.
Speaker 2:We've never heard her speak. I've never heard Bria speak. It might be just because she's dark skinned. If she was light skinned, with all that, she would have been put up a long time ago.
Speaker 1:I mean she could have been like maya, maya not put up. I think maya don't seem like she want to be put up. I think a lot of times that when you're that attractive, it's there's it's intimidating, it's not even. No, it's not intimidating you don't? She's talented too. I'm saying when you're as attractive as she is, along with the talent on that other stuff, it's not that it's intimidating. There's nothing to negotiate with. You can't put her in a box you can't negotiate with her, but bria.
Speaker 1:She's wildly attractive, but like I mean, I don't know I'm just talking about you, said she was light skinned. She I said she ended, like mia uh so that's what I'm meaning by that yeah uh, let me see, was there anything other else we need to talk about with angels podcast? Was there anything other to address? Like, I got all my oxygen, I got all my concerns out I'm just glad the bird caster.
Speaker 2:I'm glad angel stopped wearing just blush. I said that a while ago. She stopped doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she did yeah, because it was weird.
Speaker 2:It was just like blush is a thing that you put on with a full face she's paying, she's paying more people the uh expenses are expensive. You can tell yes, definitely she looks good. She's been looking real good.
Speaker 1:Lisa Leslie, cheryl Swoop, cheryl Miller, all of y'all. Shame on y'all. Y'all should be coaching these young women to stop acting like these harlots. Stop it.
Speaker 2:Maybe you know that's just unfortunately what the WNBA players got to do if they're not like top level performers in sports Like you got to. I saw somebody say that you've been seeing Angel Reese all over the place like her managers getting her in these rooms, and they're making her a brand instead of just a basketball player, which will, in the long run, get her more money yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that what she's doing is in any way, shape or form wrong.
Speaker 1:I'm just again taking a step back, looking at us in totality and asking myself what would this be viewed from an outside person's perspective, if they see this wide, sweeping trend amongst the young girls that's coming into the league?
Speaker 2:as far as I'm just gonna say this. One last thing as far as angel reese is concerned if I was, like 2021, on my way to being rich as fuck and I got a fat ass, I'm I'm gonna take a picture to see it, period, but I don't so yeah, but see she's hot, rich, young and single.
Speaker 1:Show that ass girl, make that ass shape and then those politically uh proved to have billions of dollars who wanted to give it to you. Look at that picture and go, oh, she can't promote our brand now anymore. And then y'all get mad at them. Oh they're hating. They hate black women, do you want to get into that? Uh, your boys came up again oh my god.
Speaker 2:So yeah, um, I've been seeing james and fuhad be dragged on the timeline on tiktok specifically. Again, shits and gigs, um, because, and poor minds, poor minds has been getting dragged too. They usually get dragged by men, but now they're getting dragged by women because, in retrospect, the women be. It's because Lex said something on this most recent episode of poor minds with Mel, so she brought it up and she said that it was kind of like a. It felt like a defensive thing, like the answer that y'all gave them was not sufficient enough for us, like y'all reaction was not what we wanted y'all to have in retrospect, when we look back at it. So now lex, I feel like she felt like she had to go back and address it again a little bit more aggressively in the proper way, but it came off like it didn't come off great can I, can I go ahead?
Speaker 1:what do you mean the proper way? Because, like, even on their show they had a discussion on baddies in the city. They didn't say anybody was ugly, said they didn't see any baddies. So I mean, like what, what was the the thing that she felt up in arms about?
Speaker 2:who licks so um in. Initially, when they said that they didn't see any baddies in atlanta, I it was just weird, because have you been to atlanta? There are bad bitches. There's beautiful black women all over the goddamn place. You don't really have to look far, especially if you're in the city of atlanta. If you in the house, of course not. But they could have said like we didn't really go around that much to see anybody, or beauties in the eye of the beholder, yeah, but they, they. They also said that they were baddies in like ohio or something like that, like the.
Speaker 1:The state that they brought up was like a little bit okay, but but the reason why I say that is we know I don't like black women, so we know what that could be coded for. But do you think they know that? Like, do you think they know that ohio saying that is going to come off like I'm trying to communicate white women to you?
Speaker 2:I think that, um, because they're not from here, as as british people who are fans of black culture, british people say that they know american culture very, very well because there's a lot of american tv over there that they consume and it's not the same. We don't consume their shit, but they consume our shit regularly. So I think that they're a little bit more well-versed and knowing that, like they're atlanta, detroit, new york those are black places, and then there are places who you don't hear about, black people at all, ohio being one of those places I mean, if you think of dave chappelle he's.
Speaker 2:He's the only nigga in ohio lebron was for a while.
Speaker 1:That's the thing why I'm saying it's like I can see two bad black women think they're baddies in ohio. Come on a show. Someone says did you see any baddies in atlanta? Nah, but when I was in ohio there was some bad ones up there. And now you've communicated like I'm saying I like white women, when no, I saw just two bad black women and that's why I just feel like it's a lot of miscommunication with.
Speaker 2:I just think it's a little bit like you had to do more gymnastics to make that point. And when there's more white people in ohio, in ohio and atlanta is a black ass city, point blank period.
Speaker 1:So it's a safe deduction to make safe as I wouldn't use safe, but I think it's a safe deduction to make Safe as I wouldn't use safe. I think it's a safe deduction.
Speaker 2:Because, especially after everything else and a bunch of clips that they brought up, like people went back and they weird as fuck. So Lex brought it up and she was basically like she seemed a little bit more defensive about it. Seemed a little bit more defensive about it and, um, women felt like they should have. Women felt like lex andrea, when james and fu had initially said that should have been like that's weird. But they were.
Speaker 1:They were basically like well, we not from atlanta which is okay, but again that that makes me the. The idea was like I'm not necessarily having this conversation on race, I'm just having conversation on what my experience of the culture that I was with was up there the culture in atlanta is black, the culture in ohio is white. So that's the culture I could have been up there in ohio with a bunch of black people in that area and seen baddies. That's all I'm saying you could have that's why.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm saying, but I'm just trying to figure out what. What was her response to saying that or people saying that y'all wasn't doing enough? That's what she was responding to yeah.
Speaker 2:So when, when they were like well, we don't care, we're not from atlanta, um, people like it was, just like a it was weird lex, bringing it up again and saying, well, I didn't give a fuck about whether he was attracted or he found any baddies in Atlanta, because I don't give a fuck about the male gaze now, that's a lie like I don't think that you handled that properly and if you were gonna bring it up again, then I feel like she should have.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I feel like your initial statement on like we just not from Atlanta, so we're not offended by that, it was, it was okay, it was fine for you to like change it into we're not, um, we're not concerned about the male gaze, when literally, like two episodes ago, y'all were talking about how focused on the male gaze y'all used to be and y'all look back and y'all cringe. Now it just seems it to me it's a little hypocritical.
Speaker 1:It seems to me that, when it comes to this conversation, is there's no winning in it, there's nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2:like I'm looking at it and I'm trying to figure out what could have been been sufficing for for anybody in this situation, it seems like there's nothing that could have sufficed well for for lex andrea specifically, when they initially said there's no baddies in atlanta, I would, for me, I would be like, well, that's weird, there's mad baddies in atlanta and then move on. That would have been it. Nobody would have said anything about lex andrea. Everyone would have focused on how weird it was that james and fuhad said that shit, and you can make whatever deductions you want to make from them saying that they don't like black women, this and that, but lex andrea wouldn't have caught any flack if they were just like yes, they are, like, that's what you had to.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, I just don't feel like it was that simple for them, and I think they were just trying to have a good faith conversation but it wasn't that big of a deal until they went on flagrant podcast like we didn't really give a fuck about them saying that I don't feel like that until it was, it was um a bunch of stuff put together to me it felt leading up.
Speaker 1:I saw when they went on there it was going, their clips was going crazy, because you know, I don't really follow them. So if I see they both of them shows, so if I see they clip, that means they didn't leaked out of a you know, uh, normal algorithm so, um, they got brought up again because of that and because of the supercell.
Speaker 2:So there was a show on netflix. It's a it's a black show about superheroes. It's basically like heroes but black, and it talks about, like the implementations of, if black people have powers, what we would go through if that was a thing. So it was. It's a really good show too, like it's. You should watch it. I know you didn't watch it, but you should definitely watch it. You would enjoy it. Um, so james and james specifically was like basically I didn't watch supercell because it was all black people saying that it was good and black people are biased when other black people make things, which we are. But, um, he was like I was waiting for white and asian people to say it was good for me to then agree and go watch it myself. And then james and the fuhad was like, yeah, I had the same opinion they wanted to wait for the they wanted to wait for the.
Speaker 2:And then the supercell, the creator of the show, went on a podcast and was like yeah, I, that was my first, like that was the first time that I saw these niggas and I immediately thought that they were some weird ass niggas. Because you wanted to wait for white people to say something was good for you to consume it no, I mean again.
Speaker 1:That to me stems to. I've had jokes like that where I've said similar things like oh, this is just y'all, just saying y'all like it because it's the niggas that's liking it you know, or that the niggas is being pushed and promoted but because they are from, they're black men from the same community.
Speaker 2:And then, um, do you think that black people have a, especially if you have that big of a platform? Do you think that they had a responsibility to have their own opinion about it?
Speaker 1:and and, big it up if they did. I think far too often, like we do this fickle code amongst black people, and if you don't at any point always remain on code, you get isolated from a particular faction of blackness, like even when we talked about the space last yesterday, uh, last week, where I talked about how you know I don't feel like I'd have to blindly protect all black women. That then now takes a whole bunch of people out of you because you're not following their idea of the code and there is no like in in stone black code there is it we just it's just fickle wherever you go and and and who's enforcing what at what time?
Speaker 2:do you not think that these codes come from a place of, like shared trauma and oppression?
Speaker 1:we have these codes, I think, for a reason but I think they also need to evolve with time and things of that nature. How?
Speaker 2:do you, how do you think that like this specific code should evolve in media when black people are critiquing black art?
Speaker 1:you should take them for their face value, what they're saying, and also understand what do they have to get from it, because, like a lot of these times, they be friends. Remember that uh episode of what's his name? Uh kenyan bear show that he did and he had that one scene where he talked all the black creators on like a live or a zoom or some shit like that so yeah, so I mean, we need to know where you're coming from and your criticism.
Speaker 1:But I don't think you shouldn't be able to be critical. I think you should be able to like I hate, um, what's her name? Uh, isa ray, when she does the. Oh, I'm just here to support everyone black, because when you go with that wide umbrella for something so trivial like uh, art like this, you don't know what their art says, what their art is about, what if their art says negative shit about black people, you're gonna be formed into.
Speaker 2:I think she says that because there's not a lot of black art to support, so we feel like we need to support it so that there can be more projects that are led by black people, but I would have the.
Speaker 1:I would argue that, whereas just because it's led by a black person, that means inherently for black people it's it definitely isn't so.
Speaker 2:That's why your barris is my mortal enemy. Why do you?
Speaker 1:think you and I go on this show all the time. We talk about tyler perry. Can you bear we can't be critical of, because we know that if we let you niggas who didn't got the white man, okay, continue to push the idea of blackness, it's going to be far from the hands of real black people.
Speaker 2:I think the way we critique things is a good way, because we hold black people accountable. But going back to James and Fouhad waiting on white opinions to critique black art, is that not weird, is that not a little? It's a little like odd to me. Why are you? Waiting on the stamp of approval from, they said, outside of the culture, because to then consume something that's for your culture see.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the question thing. We can't necessarily, because they're black, put them in for their culture, because we don't know what they're into the supercell?
Speaker 2:no, I'm talking about um james and fujan no, I'm saying that you're critiquing something that is for your culture. Supercell is for the culture what does that?
Speaker 1:we can't you say we don't know exactly who these guys are. We don't know if that's how the culture they grew up in. They could have gravitated to it once they started doing this podcast, or james and fujan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, james and fujan, okay, okay they could have, as they grew up and and matured and been on a show, been pushed over to this because they're black. How many times have we heard people be like, oh, I don't want to be known as a black artist, because, for whatever reason, they may have grown up around an environment that didn't push blackness. But then, as they got moved up and got pushed up, the people in the circles, all that gravity pushed you into each other because you are a person, that who performs or looks a certain way so that's not me like that just because that's what, don't put the culture on them.
Speaker 1:We don't know what their culture is.
Speaker 2:Jason fujo yeah, um, the way they were speaking about it, they seem like they're part of it and then, from my understanding of their history because I used to watch their show regularly like they're. This is they are. They did grow up in black culture and like and like African and whatever different things they are, but they're. They're black men who grew up in UK black culture.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which is a completely different culture. That's why I mean that African culture.
Speaker 2:But also the show that they're critiquing comes from their culture. He is from South London, he is black.
Speaker 1:Was it? Was it Netflix UK original?
Speaker 2:Yes, it was Netflix UK. Okay.
Speaker 1:They made is black. Was it a? Was it a netflix uk original?
Speaker 2:yes, it was netflix uk. Okay, they made it over there. They approved it. The the owner of because I watched a couple interviews from the um, the creator of supercell. He's a young black man. I very much enjoy the way his brain works and the way he storytells. The show was amazing so I wanted to watch every. Every time I saw him I clicked on the interview. He grew up in south london like he's a black man who identifies as black and he made this for black people in the uk because he was like. He grew up and all of the stuff that he saw with black people in it was american. So he wanted to make something for people in the uk and then it just so happened to get super fucking popular over here because it's a.
Speaker 1:It's so good, it's really so good they was in the school when it was like high schoolers. Is that the one you were watching?
Speaker 2:um no, he wasn't a high schooler. He uh, the main character was engaged and it was his girlfriend that wasn't listening, and then she got shot at the end okay, I don't.
Speaker 1:I've never watched this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't watch. I thought I've seen you watching it while you were. I watched it fully, like I consumed that whole thing. I was like, oh, let me watch this. And then I was like the whole time I was I was captivated immediately.
Speaker 1:I can't for too long sit and listen to british people talk. For too long yeah, it was. It was so, so, so, so, so, so good all right, you want to get into the space update yes, let's get into that all right. So we got two two-parter here for y'all today, uh, but we got to get into my man, danny, man, he danny and rocky, part 99. They did it again, this one.
Speaker 1:This one was so like big and so important I thought I had to make sure she listened to it directly yeah, so we sat down we both listened to the entire space, uh, so let's just give a little you know heads up of what happened.
Speaker 1:So rocky had put a post up where she had said, um, she just made a joke where she was just talking about like, uh, when she see her name, her name, come up in a space and it is like a reaction, um, I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1:And then danny was like we have to mature past the oh, you mentioned my name in a space and things of that nature and to me I get what he's saying, but I think that there's a lot that's underneath the subtext there and that's the thing about the whole group in the spaces, especially from that side of the argument where it's like there's a lot of underlining things that people in the group have issues with Rocky. I don't really have too many of them. I think it's funny like I think she's like old from the old guard of you know being, you know, uh, influencer before you was, it was, that was the title you know being part of that kind of culture and things that nature in the industry basically she's old industry in my mind yeah, like she comes from that kind of that.
Speaker 1:Wow, that kind of thought like the earlier back in the day, like just an example of like what I would say old culture was, our old industry would have been like when we had elliot and she asked ellie, like if there was anything that he could, you know, parla, you know, put on to us that could help us maybe in the future in our you know um career and dynamic and just trying to, you know, push ourselves as individuals. And she asked him a question like that and you know it's just a cliche question. You usually get a cliche answer. Most of us have all experienced that in the group and we're like man, you gotta do all that. We, we on our own path, our path don't look like his path. You don't have to do those kind of conversations. We want to get, you know, substantive information, not hypotheticals. And good good, well, you know um well wishes.
Speaker 1:So, uh, that's just an example of it. So it goes in, then danny does a space, they have the conversation, uh, and things get heated like she's upset danny for real. Because when she walks in she says I, I thought we was cool like two minutes ago. Like what's going on now, danny again doing danny things? Um, I to me. I feel like he just didn't express I'm, I, that's my man, danny, my boy. I just don't feel like in that moment he expressed exactly his gripe in the way that he probably should have, because if y'all gonna get into it, y'all should just got to it. And I think there was a lot of holding back because you wanted to stay on topic, but it was. This wasn't about the topic, I promise you. This wasn't about that tweet, it was. This is about all of the conversations that's been had. I wasn't in the space, thank god yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 1:I wasn't pushed, uh, to have to have a comment at that time, but I just feel like that's just where this stems from. This doesn't just stem from a beef with rocky and dan. This stems from the people on his side that have expressed and, uh, maybe not have appreciated some of rocky's input. What has she said? It's just some people. Just again, I don't feel like it's a direct shot at it because we know I've had talked to her about serious conversations.
Speaker 1:She will be very mindful of you, know the things that she's saying and who she's talking to and things like that where it can rub people on. So when you hear the word peon, it usually she'll say that when she's upset or when she's going at people to me. I just I always make that distinction because it's not like she does it in her normal conversation. It's usually when she gets tried. So when she uses those words, it rubs people the wrong way, because in our space we try to have it set up in a way where we all are equal. Even though there's some people who have thousands of followers and there's some people who don't have we don't have hundreds of followers we all try to look and speak to each other as equals and I guess, to some of those people when that language was used it took the spirit of that down on you yeah, it felt the spirit of it to me.
Speaker 1:I don't ever take it like that, because she don't do it in a normal capacity, like we just sit here talking about um flip. Are we talking about mail? We're talking about the pie. She sits there. She talked with us like we some people, she literally she's part of y'all community she wants to hear our pain she she works she's a yeah, she's a we work, um, so she's, she's fully part of the Spaces community too.
Speaker 2:So talking down on the Spaces community wouldn't make sense because you're part of it. From what I heard, like the recording, danny took the tweet personally and he felt like she was talking about WeWorks. She was basically like you, dumb fuck, why would I be talking about the niggas I fuck with? I'm obviously talking about the other spaces that don't fuck with me.
Speaker 1:They'll be talking shit about me and this and that which I thought made complete sense, the only thing about that is, though, was I was in the space the night before and she was mentioned, and somebody had commented her name in the comment, and she has said, like why y'all bringing my name up, or whatever, in her response. So to me, when I saw that tweet, I thought it was just in conjunction with that too. I wouldn't have thought, for any reason, that she was talking about anybody else on the other side, because, for the most part, they're blocked, and you know it's just we.
Speaker 2:We see y'all stay over there, I'm over here type shit, so we can't really know who you're talking about for real.
Speaker 1:So I think that's why I saw it like that. But in that whole space that was never mentioned. I don't know if anybody else saw it. I did, but nobody, luckily.
Speaker 2:I mean I wasn't in the space, so I didn't have to bring up that car yeah, this is the second, the second week in a row that danny has had conflict with a woman well, I mean I think that's. I think it's because he gets particularly interesting you know why?
Speaker 1:I think it's because he gives opportunity for women to be themselves on stage. He doesn't. He doesn't sit there and say you got to be like this, miss lady, you got to do x1. No, he goes up there and lets you say what you got to say and then sometimes there's blowback and I think just in this particular time he I just think he needs to have a serious conversation with rocky if he continues to have want to have the relationship. I don't think they do anymore. I think they don't mind if we stay talking to have conversations, but I think rocky's going to be so busy with a lot of the stuff she's been revealing on her page and stuff that's coming on. I don't see that she's really gonna have time for us like that anymore. Uh, she did a really good job with that book, so it seems like more and more of those are coming. And then it seemed like the conversation led into that right afterwards about the whole joe talking about the book, that conversation oh, yeah, they were.
Speaker 2:Um, they mentioned that like she was talking shit about joe for months but now follows joe and said that she wanted to write a book for joe. And everyone was saying that, like you would um, what's the word I'm looking for? You would put your, your beliefs aside to make some money, which is exactly what she was saying. Yeah, you don't give a fuck that he was talking shit about you, because it would be a huge opportunity for you to write his book.
Speaker 2:They are right in saying that like that's kind of like morally a little bit shaky, because that is someone that you have expressed that you don't agree with, and they've talked shit about you for mad long and he said shit about you that could potentially like put you in jail. So if, if, like that had panned out. So it is a little bit like odd. I'm, I'm, I am, I'm in agreeance with like dubbing them when he said that it was a little bit odd that you, like you said that you wanted to write his book, because that's you setting your feelings aside to make money. That's us. It is a skill for you to be able to do that, but not everyone morally would want to do that.
Speaker 1:So it's interesting that you would want to do that yeah, I kind of think, in a way too, that maybe danny and rocky were working in conjunction to try to get that pitch out there, because that's what it seemed like. You got everybody there for them to do the world war, rocky versus, uh, danny. And then at the end that pitch is like what? 10 or 15 minutes of the conversation, uh, and that's before I got walked into it. Uh, I thought maybe they they could be in conjunction doing some rollout. I think there may be in a rollout to help get that that push, because the next day she's on stage with joe and flip and that conversation comes up about the book. So, and he knew, uh, he wrote rollo's book.
Speaker 1:So again, I don't know, I haven't been told, I wouldn't be surprised if she did end up writing joe's book I think she, I think it would be fitting if she did and are you gonna write about stomping on that pregnant woman's belly?
Speaker 1:that would be a good question to wonder if you're gonna put in there. Um, I think that it could be an opportunity remember, uh, on bojack horseman and diane was writing uh, bojack's book in the show. I think she has an opportunity like that where she can get her shit off, really discuss joe in a real way, but still make him in a way where he's human, and then it could really just push her to a whole nother level, but also, in the same token, you get out those grievances you have with him.
Speaker 2:You think it's time for joe to write a book? I mean, if you want to, I mean I don't see why not do you think it will be received well, or does he have to wait a little bit? Like, do you think he should wait a little bit longer?
Speaker 1:I think he should probably wait until maybe a big deal comes about where he can kind of be. That can be the uh ending of the book kind of per se. Not the end of his career, but ending of where you put this book at. Right now I'm in this position. I think that would be good. But I mean, at the same token, you can't say that he's not in a position to have it because he has took over a new medium and is able to establish himself better than a lot of people who were established in other medias so you gotta, you can write a book about it, wouldn't be bad um danny and rocky both called each other insecure in the spaces that was crazy.
Speaker 1:They was going back like danny. That that was him jumping out the window. A lot of people don't know danny's not the type to cuss and swear and do all that. That time he got out his character he barely raises his voice but even then he didn't really raise his voice, but it was raised voice for danny yeah, he wasn't really actually yelling.
Speaker 2:When rocky was like, stop yelling, lower your voice. I was like he's not.
Speaker 1:But that's why I get jealous. I get like I would be jealous of rocky in that situation, because rocky can just go up there because she's a lady and just go flagrant on us like she can call us anything soy boys man she's from new york.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean she's from florida, but she's okay, she got her a lot of her bearings in new york yeah, but like that's uh, when a lady from new york or that lives in new york for a long time decides to curse you out, like it's extremely entertaining but then you have to listen to danny, because that's where the art really is, because everything she was doing was not phasing him whatsoever like all of all of the little poking that she did, he was like yeah, uh-huh, and and I'm gonna mute you and continue saying what I was saying at the same level that I was saying it like no, he was yelling back and forward at one point.
Speaker 1:No, rocky, this is what you're gonna um I was like yo this man is hilarious, but I just respect the fact that even when he's being pushed to his limits and you see him being quote unquote out of character, it's still not a bad dude he's still not yelling for real, he's not swearing, he's not calling out your name.
Speaker 1:Nothing he's just putting his point, and he's just continue to stay with the same vigor that he said at the beginning. She was interrupting people a lot, though I mean it just it's part of the game it's part of the game. It's part of the game.
Speaker 2:I was like too many people are speaking. I can't listen to this. I don't know how y'all do that on a regular basis, just like listening to each other. Oh my God, oh my God, I would hate it so much.
Speaker 1:No but.
Speaker 2:I would hate it. It was good. I'm still going to be people yelling like I would be overstimulated like a motherfucker. I don't know how y'all do that shit. I couldn't even finish listening to the whole space because I was like this is too much.
Speaker 1:I don't want it, it anymore. But no, I'm, I'm, I'm with it. Man rocky, you still you still good over here with us. Man, I understand you may not be the same with the, with the we work, but you still she work in my heart, you still she work. Uh, but no, there was another incident that happened too, so this one stems from the podcast, the joe button podcast, so I'm gonna play a little bit of the clip that sparked it off, and then I'll tell exactly what happened in response to it listen, this fool comes over to me and says yo, could you get me out of here with these regular drills?
Speaker 6:I don't want to be around the working class people. Yo, it's too many nine-to-fivers in here.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, I'm like yo, this guy is crazy.
Speaker 6:How could he tell? I have no idea how you could tell it was too many nine-to-fivers. I mean you could tell kind of based on.
Speaker 2:What's a nine-to-fiver look like.
Speaker 7:I know a lot of nine-to-fivers that put that shit on.
Speaker 4:I remember, back in the day nine to five or something, we, well, we all used to bridge and tunnel. Oh, bridge and tunnel. Does anybody know what bridge and tunnel? I think I'm officially bridge and tunnel.
Speaker 1:Now, though a little bit.
Speaker 1:No, you know, you're familiar with that phrase right bridge and tunnel no, no it's just people from new jersey that take the bridge and tunnel into new york to like, have nightlife and you know, commute and all that kind of stuff. That's what he's talking about. So this um again, you can clearly see how a lot of people who are listening to his show are working class people, people who go out, and that's what their lifestyle is you're saying that you don't want to be around all of your listeners, and so if you look at the timeline.
Speaker 1:It rubbed a lot of people the wrong way to and it sparked into a conversation amongst a former mod of the jbtv where they went up there and was like bro, like are we okay with this kind of conversation being had to us?
Speaker 2:I was literally disgusted. The entire conversation like it was really wild that.
Speaker 1:Um, he was just allowed, he. He said that and didn't even think second about what he was just.
Speaker 2:Why do you think you're better than working class people?
Speaker 1:I think that's to stem from it. Let me get into a little bit more, because they end up having the space they have the conversation. Joe enters the space and he doubles down.
Speaker 2:He's like of course he does, because he has shitty takes on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:He goes and he says hey, I am not here to party with you guys. I don't really like y'all guys, like like essentially, that's what he said. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. What he really told y'all is, I think, less of y'all. Y'all are beneath me. Yeah, y'all are just the people who consume my content.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day, we may chop it up, he may go outside and, you know, play with the ants, but at the end of the day, he sees y'all at the ends.
Speaker 1:I don't think y'all should take that as a bad thing on y'all end, because to me it feels like it's just a projection of who he is, that the fact that you care so much to other yourself from the regular common people has to be from the fact that you hate you. Like there's something about the old you, the you that didn't have access. You're disgusted with yourself, you despise it and you probably know that that individual is still a part of you when you look in the mirror, when you wake up, like that person who did the, the, who had the addictions, who made the bad decisions, who were, was abusive and all that other shit, like that's still who you are and you can never run from it, no matter how much money you have. And I feel like it was a little nasty once he got on stage because a lot of that came out like a lot of that just showed like there was a lot of bootlicking, like people were like, well, if y'all had money, would you want to be around? Just anybody.
Speaker 2:But that's not the conversation y'all are disgusting, fucking human beings it's wild.
Speaker 1:Like that. The conversation. Anytime we've been critical of joe on how he discussed normal people or everyday people no one. They always want to go about. Well, if you had this, would you want that? Nobody cares about that. That's not the conversation at hand. The conversation is you using your language, your platform, to shit on people and make like you're better than them when you know you're not. Yeah, you're just fortunate, you're lucky, you had a good experience, you had def jam when you were a kid like for real, bro, like that's. To me, that's just insane to just have that discussion with the working class, but that's always why I've never given my money. I couldn'll give you time. I'll listen to you in the background While I'm on the work, while I'm doing something productive, but I'm not giving you no money when this is what you think of the people who are providing that for you.
Speaker 2:If all of these people decided to stop listening to your show, then you wouldn't be on this pedestal. You dared them. You dared them on the stage.
Speaker 1:I hope y'all I don't listen to them, but I hope y'all take that dare to heart and stop listening to this motherfucker. They're not, and that was the sad part.
Speaker 2:It was just like an abusive boyfriend going on there saying you ain't nobody else gonna want you but me because they want to be in the position that he is, to tell the people who are working class that, oh, you're below me and I dare you to stop supporting me.
Speaker 1:A lot of people feel like they are low because they're working class and that's just. They don't understand. That's just manipulation from the system at hand. Like the whole time, I really just wanted to offer to go up there and be like bro. All y'all are bootlicking and it sounds crazy. Y'all don't understand the system that he promotes. That he wants to see do well is the system that puts all of us in handcuffs yeah and y'all don't understand that, and that's why y'all would never pull away.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you're gonna watch and watch him for free for two times a week, but to me, the individual who would speak like that knows that he's probably has a history of taking advantage of people. That's what that sounded like somebody with a history of taking advantage of others.
Speaker 2:You're not better than working class people at all there are working class men who have never put their hands on women.
Speaker 2:There are working class men who have never said crazy shit to women in the workplace and they know how to speak because they are educated. There are working class men who, um, are just better than you, morally more educated. Like the position that you're in is because you happen to be able to rhyme words good, and then you took that in and ran with. You didn't even we weren't even fully successful at that part. You had to start doing this part and you just got in on the ground floor and it worked out. But like timing was the reason that you are. You feel like you're able to sit up on your high horse and call working class people like less than that's absolutely insane to me. I don't, I can't. I would never the thought process to say that I like it would never be a thought in my mind.
Speaker 1:Like that would never be conceived in my mind and then they let him go up there and defend himself in a way where he said even before I was rich, I didn't want to hang out with the uh working class nine to five people. And I'm sitting there like y'all really just letting this nigga get this manipulation shit off. Whatever man like y'all are insane. I'm gonna just tell you this and we can wrap it up with this part right here for this uh space update. People show you exactly who they are every time and you have to at some point recognize it and act accordingly, because if not, you're just essentially saying that you're okay with the actions and behavior. So do what you want with that.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not saying don't watch the man's show. I'm saying is he really worth 25? If he's really worth your 15, do you really? Do you really come back after a week of uh of listening to his content more inspired or more knowledgeable than you did the week after? That's how I know if it's worth it or not yeah you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:candace, owen patreon might be worth more than joe's in regards to just information that you can at least uh attempt to try to, you know, find out if it's valid or not. Yeah, vice president, harris will deliver for black men. So that is what we've been hearing. Uh, probably what for a week now. Man, so that is what we've been hearing uh, probably what for a week now. She released her comprehensive nine-page report on what she will bring to the black man as a black man, how did you feel about this?
Speaker 1:uh, well, I can read. So I read through this stuff and I'm like this is cool for well-to-do black people a black person like myself and where I come from, in regards to like having a level of privilege and things that nature some of the stuff could probably help me, some of the stuff where I can get me in a a good position. But then when I think about and this is kind of interesting, you know, she was just she just sat down with charlotte may not too long ago and one of the guys asked a very interesting question to her was like yeah, I hear you always talk about the middle, but what are you going to do to help people in poverty or close to poverty push themselves up? This to me, ideally it sounds like it could do that, but practically it doesn't. Because, like, there was discussions regarding, like, the loan. She said she's going to have the forgivable loans, I think up to twenty thousand dollars. She's trying to get like a million loans in regards to that. That sounds nice in that regard. Like a million loans in regards to that. That sounds nice in that regard.
Speaker 1:But to me it seems as though it's going to be more so in line with what her other projects have done, it's always been a tax credit and because she did have one where she was trying to, I think, increase the tax credit from like 5 000 to, I want to say, like 50 000 from one of her older proposals. And to me that tax credit doesn't really do what people think it does, because you have to make a profit first to get tax credit. Like, if you're not making a profit off what you're doing, which it could take some people a long time to do, that years then they're not going to get that um, that, that return on it. And it could be anything. Like I said, like I know again, she was talking about some of the loans, helping people with car payments and things of that nature, you know, increasing and getting equipment, like again, if we were able to get a 20 racks, that would help improve a lot of stuff, right, yeah, uh, for our business.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I can see where the promise comes from it. But I'll just go over just some of the points and then we can kind of. So we're talking about the, the forgivable loans of twenty thousand dollars to black entrepreneur and others, um expanding the bank accounts and lending to help black and build black men build wealth, enabling black men who hold digital assets or the crypto shit, breaking down unfair and unnecessary barriers for employment of black men like that.
Speaker 2:That should help.
Speaker 5:But I'm saying but how is that going to be done?
Speaker 1:like you can say I'm gonna do it, yeah, but it's like, how are you gonna do, especially when you take it to the fact that, um, what that was the affirmative action losing a lot of power in regards to that enabling black and other workers to profit when companies executive profit Again.
Speaker 3:that sounds nice in regards to that, but what are you going?
Speaker 1:to implement on a company that people are going to not be able to spend and say, oh, you're going to do this to the little guy that people are going to not be able to spin. And say, oh, you're going to do this to the little guy Because that's what they do. When you say you're going to make companies do X, y, z, they try to spin it and say, oh well, they're trying to make you do this, make you make the transgender cake. You know all that kind of shit. Let's see. Expand pathways for black men to good paying jobs, whether or not they have a college degree.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not uh opposed to that, but again her struck her can only come from federal jobs. Federal jobs have budgets and limits, so again, that puts a lot. Again I understand the importance of government jobs. I'm from the dmv area. Dmv area. The reason why we have so many well-to-do black people is because of government jobs. Yeah, so I understand the importance of it. But are you going to expand those government jobs into other areas? Because I think a good uh token, if you're not going to give us reparations, would be helping black people. Have you know the first right, first to right refusal of government jobs like now I'm talking about elected ones, but government uh cleaning up, doing shit like that working with paperwork, stuff like that, yeah so I mean, is that going to be part of that pathway she she talks about, you know, providing training and high demand industries and things like that.
Speaker 1:To me that just sounds more like college and more like debt you got to go into so that's what I'm saying where, like a lot of this stuff again, she wants to help black men become teachers. Are you going to pay teachers more? Because that reason why black men aren't teachers isn't because they don't want to be teachers, it's because the payment in there, 25 cents an hour also she said she's going to invest grant programs for mentorship and leadership development.
Speaker 1:Provide support for financial stress farmers and ranchers, including black farmers and ranchers. Provide black men and their families with liable, low-cost internet access. Review the burden of medical debt, because she wanted to focus on like sickle cell and things that affect black men. Again, I'm not a lot of this stuff sounds good in practice but then when you look at the parts that aren't bold printed it doesn't give you too much confidence in it, like when you actually kind of read into the process of it.
Speaker 1:Again, it just sounds like things that are going to help people who are already up yeah and I don't know if that's who she's trying to reach out to, but to me the this idea of capitalism is not going to uh, create a sustainable model like we were just talking about earlier. We were looking at the housing prices, like how do you control that without putting a law? And it says this is how much you can sell the house for yeah, like regulations have to be put in place, but I'm saying like a regulation, like that.
Speaker 1:You told the people you're gonna put a regulation on a house or a price. Like that we say you're going, you're china, now you're communist china you're yeah, that would be anti-capitalism at some point we need some people who needs to understand that this is not.
Speaker 1:We are not on a sustainable model and I don't feel like she realized. I don't feel like she cares to speak on that. She may know it, but I don't think she cares to speak on it because her dynamic is still going to help her benefit and her and her donors, because if you look at that, there's money.
Speaker 1:Where do you think this money's coming from? Who's getting relief for this? Who's getting uh breaks for this? Is it all going to come from taxing them? Are we going to be able to get that, even through congress? Because who's like congress is paid by these individuals. Why are they going to? Then everything is a mess, it's like. Why would they do that? And I think that's the problem they have, because trump gets a lot of this shit done through executive orders.
Speaker 1:But we all saw, once the next person gets in, all those shits go away yeah and then when you try to do things through the political uh process like normal, then you have someone like him who was just like no, we're resisting regardless. If you put any bill out, I have 10 people that's going to resist regardless. This could be the best bill in the world, they're going to resist because it's a republican-led bill.
Speaker 2:That's why we're never going to get anything, anything done in our, in our government, because there are people that are on specific sides and, regardless of um whether the bill or the law is going to benefit people in your state or not, you have a side that you have to be on and that's the side that you're gonna be on. So it's just like it's tiring and when people, when candidates, come up and they're like, oh, you have hope and I'm gonna make all this change, and it's like for black people specifically, nothing is gonna happen, like our lives haven't changed for the for the better with anybody in office yeah, I mean it just seems as though, like it just sounds good.
Speaker 1:It's also it felt like because she didn't address this either when she was with charlamagne because he asked about the finger wagging that brock obama did when he came out was basically insinuating that these black men aren't voting for her because she's a woman and that they need to tighten up. And you saw the video right with brock obama. No, he did. Okay, we did a video where he was talking to black men and so a lot of people came off as finger wagging uh, like you're trying to shame on them, and when asked about that, she didn't really give a really good answer to that. Like she, it seems as though like the black man, because charlamagne made a good point. Like I don't see white men criticizing other white men for not voting for for you. I don't see white women criticizing other white women for voting against their interest in voting and not voting for you. So why are we only seeing this example being done in the media? And she just had nothing she could say?
Speaker 2:and that's where you lose a lot of people, because you feel like we are the ones black men that you can shit on and we supposed to still come back to you is it because the polls are saying that black men aren't voting for her and she needs black men's support, so she's like not going about it the correct way to try to get it you can say that, but they've never historically done it the right way.
Speaker 1:They've always tried to make it and paint up.
Speaker 2:She's the only black woman who's been this close.
Speaker 1:But no, we're talking about in in general, I'm talking in general for elections period, like black men have always been heavily critical because if we choose to go to the right or whatever like our vote looks like, it's treated like it should only go one way heavily critical.
Speaker 2:Yes, but have y'all ever been finger wagged before?
Speaker 1:plenty of times for for specific to vote for specific people yes, when this happened with hillary, there was a campaign for that, where, oh you, you need to. This is a just because she's a woman, she can lead, or something like. There have been campaigns against that and now to see this, and days away from the election, it just seems like it's out of place and that she had to kind of respond with that document days is scary, huh it's.
Speaker 1:The election is so close and it's just scary, it's unsettling yeah, I mean again, it doesn't scare me as much because I don't look at it as too, because you light-skinned in a us citizen? No, because no, I don't look at these two people as staunch opposition to each other, like I don't look at comma as too much different from um trump. I just see her having to excuse a lot of her bs.
Speaker 1:Productive health is a very big difference I mean, I understand that, but even then, even if she gets into office, the supreme court ain't changing that ruling no time soon. I think there may be one person that might be leaving within the next four years, so it's not like that's going to change overnight anyway the supreme court.
Speaker 2:But I mean it's scary right now. I mean it's it's. It's not like that's going to change overnight anyway the supreme court.
Speaker 1:But I mean it's scary right now I mean it's, it's, it's wrapped up and part of that you can also blame obama, ginsburg and obama you can blame both of them. Both of them. She didn't leave that would allow somebody that should have left. And then you got obama, who, when someone did it was an opening he let trump put in it why you should have appointed someone immediately, even though it was the end of your.
Speaker 1:I don't care how it made you look trump did, because we know trump does flagrant shit all the time because the normal train and the normal thought that how it went was the president, who was the the lame duck president wouldn't make that decision yeah it would go to the next incumbent yeah and so that's where that's why he did that, because he knew he'd be critical, critical and he thought maybe yeah, give a fuck about what people said.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he left.
Speaker 1:He was like no, I'm putting in two more and we good, yeah, we up, and it's stuck and it's really stuck, unless some niggas die uh, but not the show step down. The charlamagne interview was interesting. I think it's harder for him to kind of be able to have that same kind of rapport and conversation Because she sounded a lot better with Charlamagne than she ever had with anybody else that she did a performance, did this for, did an interview with she did a bunch of interviews.
Speaker 2:Because she was being critiqued about not doing enough interviews.
Speaker 1:We said that like not too long ago, yeah, and then with this one, like I said, she didn't come off as an authoritarian as much as she had in the past. With this one it did seem like she was a little more understanding you think?
Speaker 2:so but I think, because she said she's disciplined, like she has her, like she's gonna stick to the script no, she, but she spoke on that and she was just saying like I want people to know.
Speaker 1:This is what I mean. That's why you hear me regurgitating a lot of talking points. I'm just talking about just her relatability. It it felt way more, I don't need to relate to the candidate. I don't know, what the?
Speaker 2:fuck that is about. Tell me your policy and your plan. I don't want to hear about your life and your personality and what the fuck you do at home and what you cook for dinner. I don't give a fuck. What are you going to do for me?
Speaker 1:And did you see her on Fox? I saw her on Fox. I think she ate fox up. She was good. I think she did have some flaws with the immigration conversation. Um, she's trying to push that we had a bill going but trump x, y and z you know he had people stop it from going forward. I think the the issue I guess they were trying to push was like well, you got rid of all the his stuff that he put in executive order that was working or that they perceived to be working. Um, I don't think it was that working.
Speaker 2:That too much. They roll back all of trump's like deregulations for things, or is that?
Speaker 1:not necessarily anything that he put on executive orders like. It's like 77 of them or something they got rid of all his executive orders, anything like that, they they got rid of that, but I was. That's the thing about executive orders is the next person to come? In yeah just get rid of it, um, but I think, like I said I I thought these was a bit better improvement from what we saw last week when we talked about her yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:It was a the fox interview I thought was good from the clips that I saw because he was, he was grilling her, he was grilling her, he was, and she stood her ground and she I think she made her points very clearly- yeah, actually, hold on.
Speaker 1:I got a clip here that Don Lemon pointed out. He was saying that she should probably try to sue Fox for this, because they had a conversation and they brought up something that Trump said, and then the clip that they showed didn't.
Speaker 2:Was a completely different clip. Yeah, it didn't reflect this. And then she ate him up. She was like that's not what you just played, though, that was from a different thing, and you you and I both know the truth she ate him up misguided the 50? Are they stupid?
Speaker 5:oh god, I would never say that about the american people and, in fact, if you listen to don Trump, if you watch any of his rallies, he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and diminish the American people. He's the one who talks about an enemy within an enemy within talking about the American people, suggesting he would turn the American military on the American people.
Speaker 9:We asked that question to the former president today. Harris Faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded. I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening. I'm not threatening anybody, they're the ones doing the threatening. They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the greatest. No, it's true, we've had a question.
Speaker 3:Think of it more than Alphonse Capone. He was the greatest. No, it's true. Think of it. It's called weaponization of government.
Speaker 5:It's a terrible thing. I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy. Within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the American people. That's not what you just showed he was asked no, no, no, that's not what you just showed in all fairness and respect to you.
Speaker 9:No, no, no, I'm telling you that was the question that we asked him.
Speaker 5:He didn't show that, and here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times and you and I both know that, and you and I both know that. He has talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy and in a democracy, the President of the United States, in the United States of America, should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for doing it. And this is what is at stake.
Speaker 2:We live in the US, not fucking North Korea. We can criticize the president without being thrown in jail.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie, that was one of her best shit right there. She ate that the fuck up. Like you have to kind of put your hands in the mud with this nigga.
Speaker 2:You got to put your foot all the way down.
Speaker 9:She stood on a big boat. From within, we have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics, and I think they're the and, and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national god or, if really necessary, by the military. Uh, because they can't let that happen.
Speaker 1:So right there, we just made sure that y'all heard it.
Speaker 2:He did say that yeah, he said that on multiple occasions so I mean, you just got to be mindful.
Speaker 1:He also said another thing in his um, in his uh, when he was in atlanta this weekend when they were talking about there was a woman in georgia who died because she couldn't get proper health care, for the doctor was scared of abortion or whatever in that regard and she'd have died. Her family did a telecast that same night and, uh, trump said we'll have better ratings. Like that's literally what he said in regards to the woman state making a statement about asking how you felt about your reaction to them doing that we'll have better ratings. Like this is the person that y'all saying cares when he can't even with any decency. Uh, he didn't have to know who that person was and not say that. I just want y'all to be for real about why y'all like trump. Yeah, he empowers you to be a racist.
Speaker 1:He puts you in a state you know that he's a fucking idiot and a lot of y'all are just like folks who just want to be on the other side of the coin because y'all have nothing else interesting, because you like being contrarians and you have no like actual thoughts of your fucking own.
Speaker 2:That's it. You like him because he's racist and you're racist and y'all want to be racist together. You don't agree. You know that he's spewing fucking nonsense, or you're stupid enough and you don't. I would respect y'all more if y'all were like yeah, we just don't fucking like immigrants and black people and we want to roll it all the way back to slavery times. You know that he's a fucking buffoon. Yeah, I mean yeah, like come on now. No, you got it. Either you know he's a buffoon or you're even more of a buffoon than he is what do I always say?
Speaker 1:you're the one or two things stupid or sinister. So if you, if, if you can sit there again. My thing is this. I'm not saying that this make the to make her seem like, make him seem like he's a better or worse candidate than Kamala. It's just, it's so evident where he stands on things that is anti-American, inherently at least. Yes, by the letter of the law you can at least say it's anti-American.
Speaker 2:And there have been a bunch of a bunch of people in the government who you think would be on trump's side that have come out and been like nope.
Speaker 1:Well, like this is very like anti-democracy, anti-american well, sometimes you don't always want people who are on the other side to you know. Come on your side and tell you what's going on. You know, or endorse a candidate, what's?
Speaker 2:funny is. You and david duke have something in common which I never thought.
Speaker 1:What are you talking?
Speaker 2:about. I never thought I could say that, but david duke recently came out and endorsed joe steen, joe stein steen joe steen and I was like a little bit freaked out by this.
Speaker 1:But he read the article and she was basically like no, thank you yeah, so the thing about the david duke thing it was strictly the gaza policies is what he said. So he said his statement. He says this is good for white, white americans, europeans and all humanity and that's why he said he was picking her again. Shout out to her for denouncing that she also, she was like fuck out of here. No, she also threw some shade because she said uh, kamala is talking about, uh, dick cheney.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she's a war criminal. She's like. I actually don't support being backed by war criminals like your girl kamala, who keeps um bragging about uh being backed by dick cheney.
Speaker 1:I think she even implied that him being a white supremacist yeah she said too supremacist, she'll be going crazy. Well, I do want to say, as you can see on my tablet, I did vote early. Shout out to me, shout out, you know. I did what I had to do. I think to me, this felt a lot better than any other time that I voted before I voted for obama. Uh, the second time the second time. Yeah, I couldn't vote the first time.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, you weren't I was a child, okay, I was like nigga. Who the fuck?
Speaker 1:I voted for obama the second time. Uh, I voted for, um, what's his name? Joe biden, hillary clinton and for the large part of what I had voted for was always kind of be following what my parents told me. You know, I was just. They were Democrats, so I'm going to follow suit in regards to being a Democrat.
Speaker 1:Um, I've, you know, registered for that, but this was the first time, I think, as my own adult, I made my own decision for what I felt was for me and what I thought was important for this country to move forward. So it was really freeing to go in there in that booth, not scared of the outcome, because, you know, I'm trusting and I'm believing in what I believe in. Not a corporate politician, not someone who wants to continue to throw bombs, continue to inflate our military and police force so that they can control us, but somebody who says, hey, I want the working class to have more, I want you to have more of a say, I want the wrongs of slavery to be corrected, and can say that with a straight face and not dance around it, not tell me there needs to be studies done when there's been plenty of studies done, and it tells you all the time.
Speaker 2:Take the money out that fucking weak ass white supremacist military and maybe you can pay for some shit in this real country here the us has been like slowly falling in, um, like notoriety I don't know if notoriety is the right word, but like our education system is garbage. Um, the stuff that's coming out of the us is not great. Like we, the the greatest minds, aren't being produced from the united states at all.
Speaker 1:So I there's like more money needs to be put into just making us better but that would that would stem from we can't take that from the rich people in their jacuzzis and their yachts so they can only have one yacht. They can only have one jet. Do you know what can happen with just one yacht? What if it gets stained? And I need to be in the other one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:But no, I was just so happy that I was able to do that. So shout out to me uh, proud of you, baby, thank you, thank you. I also voted for myself. A few times there were some republicans you know local republicans that were going unopposed. So I said, hey, don't throw my name in the race, they still gonna win because they're running unopposed. That's peace. I'm in there. I have a vote. My name will come up on there.
Speaker 2:I voted for myself for probate court I just um, I I am very proud of you and um for voting with your uh, conscience and everything. Because, on the other hand, it could be argued that, like with the past couple elections, georgia is a very important state. It could be argued that you wasted a vote.
Speaker 2:It could be because we know for a fact that jill stein is not about to win this, like we know 100, 100 that jill stein is not winning this well so in a state like georgia, it was very important last election and for the first time last election, georgia was a democratic state they did with jim well for for a long time, like, uh, it was a democratic state, so, um, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:uh well, it was funny. I talked to my dad the day before the election and I remember him telling me when I was a little boy if everyone is jumping off of a bridge, are you going to follow them?
Speaker 2:Okay, but if everyone is jumping off of a bridge because the bridge is on fire, I mean, then that'd be different.
Speaker 1:Okay, but the bridge is on fire, though.
Speaker 7:But the thing is In this specific situation. The bridge is on fire, but the thing is in this specific situation.
Speaker 1:The bridge is on fire and everyone's jumping into a pit that they can't get out of. They're not jumping for freedom. They're not jumping for their own safety. They're jumping because the bridge is on fire and the only other option is a pit in the ground. To them, it's either die or pit it. Shit. You don't die in a pit. You could die in a pit.
Speaker 2:You might not die in the pit. You could, but you might not, but it's certain death on the bridge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that way I look at, is this the person who I wanted to jump off the bridge for, gave me the reality in the world that I want to see, and she, she said the answers that I wanted. I didn't have to worry about no flim flam, no bs, no, oh we're trying to jump off the bridge.
Speaker 2:The person just gave you a fireproof suit to stay on the bridge.
Speaker 1:I just felt like at some point we have to stand against the duopoly in regards to our politics and really have to stand for something, and if that means a I lose or my candidate doesn't come through, it's not why I did.
Speaker 2:I did it because that person earned the vote for me who was a george washington that said that it was extremely dangerous for us to get into a two-party system in our government and that he did not want to see that happen. And what the fuck did we do?
Speaker 1:Two-party system, okay, two-party system of corporate politicians funded by the same individuals, bullshit With the same agenda, just taking different steps.
Speaker 2:Everyone is funded by the same people. But I chose to vote they perform in front of us a different way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all it is. It's just, we're just a different way to skin the cat, that's all. But we all go into the same thing. The money is still going to the same people military, police, um, and taking away from the working class yeah gotta, gotta make sure the most important thing is to maintain the health and the action of the poverty exploited class they're going to force you to have the baby. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And then they're not going to educate the baby.
Speaker 1:So the baby dumb, so he dumb and have more babies.
Speaker 2:And then the baby might go to jail, maybe. And then if the baby go to jail, it's basically a slave, right, baby? And then if the baby go to jail is basically a slave, right? If the baby don't go to jail, the baby goes into a system of like I don't even know just just like everyday monotony so they can pay fucking more taxes than people who make less than them to not be able to buy a fucking house, because inflation for for real estate is even higher than regular inflation. Like, what life are you living? This is nonsense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, at some point we have to, at some point we're gonna have to stand up for ourselves, but it's not so going to understand that there's going to be a pushback and are we willing to accept the pushback? Are we going to be able to get up, are also going to understand that there's going to be a pushback and are we willing to accept the pushback? Are we going to be able to get up? Are we going to pick up our fellow man and help them out, or are we going to say, well, that ain't me, so it's not happening, gosh, so that's why that. That's why that joke conversation resonates with me a lot, because so many times we want to be him, but he's the person blinding us from what's really going on, and he's just doing his job in that. Let me put nice things in front of you. Let me tell you you broke. Let me let you feel less than yeah.
Speaker 1:You'll let everybody else win, because you feel like that's what they're supposed to be doing Is dominating you. Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, and the only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations.
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Speaker 1:Love you bye and kamala harris, why did you go in the shade room?
Speaker 2:like. The shade room is not fucking black media, that's not a black news platform. Stop going on. The fucking shade room.