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Kendrick Lamar's Fails Black Media, Lebron James Endorses Crime Boss, Is Tyla Pop? - Talk FNF TV
Can the past really dictate our future when it comes to taking advice? We open the floor with a bold conversation about the sincerity of messages from individuals with controversial backgrounds, including renowned artists like Kendrick Lamar. As we question the authenticity of some famous figures, we also explore how gaining fame, especially on platforms like TikTok, can shift motivations and relationships in creative collaborations. With an eye on the dynamics of team content creation, we share personal anecdotes about the chaos that can ensue from editing decisions and the tension between audience engagement and staying true to one's voice.
In a humorous yet insightful critique, we analyze Kendrick Lamar's media interactions, or the lack thereof, with Black media outlets, touching on his interviews' authenticity and the larger implications of cultural representation. We draw comparisons with other big names like Drake and Beyoncé, pondering Kendrick's approach to his public persona within the hip-hop community. Our discussion takes a turn into the world of sports and the fashion industry, examining how misconduct allegations in sports and pressures in fashion affect public perceptions and individual career paths. Highlighting Laur Oach's journey, we stress the importance of artists maintaining connections with their cultural roots amidst societal expectations.
Prepare for a hearty laugh as we navigate the world of online drama and personal feuds, where words like "eat my p*ssy" become unexpected battle cries. From the bizarre online arguments over personal entanglements to the chaotic dynamics of social media discourse, we paint a vivid picture of today's digital conflicts. Wrapping up with musings on music genre classifications and the racial biases that artists face, we question how industry practices shape the careers of Black musicians. Through it all, we reflect on generational wisdom and the evolving trends that define our cultural landscape. Join us for a whirlwind of topics, each more compelling than the last.
If I'm a crackhead and I did crack for 15 years and I told you don't do crack, does that mean that the advice that I gave you was bullshit, because I did crack for 15 years?
Speaker 2:Because you know, crack is a blast.
Speaker 1:But I'm telling you she has qualities and features that are regularly or generally identified with being fetishized by white people, with being fetishized by black, by white people. I think she's more able to be consumed by them a lot easier than maybe like a tims or someone like that. I mean, my problem is with like just the brand of kendrick lamar is just that it's this super preachy over pretentious like ideology that leads you nowhere. It's just selling you a bag like a false bag of goods family man.
Speaker 2:You're a the. You are the picture of the upstanding black man. This man was ravaging the black community. You should not be shouting him out.
Speaker 1:Just let him get out of jail like when you settle on 20 cases like that and you pay out my you're like a little guilty, like you did something you're more than a little guilty, like you did something wrong you're trying to.
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Speaker 1:We've got a lot of stuff to get to man, but you, man, you, you a sneaky little dog man, you sneaky little devil, but I don't know what you're talking about first and foremost, uh, personal best for us on tiktok. So shout out to us. You know we're getting. You know where we need to be. That's what you get.
Speaker 1:We're getting where we need to be big 700k and growing so shout out and shout out to you for your performance in the clip, so you did a really great job but period it's just crazy, like when you see someone who you know starts to get a little bit of notoriety, like it's just wild because we're around each other a lot, so we see like the little things, that kind of like the byproducts of just having, like you know, just moderate success in what we're doing, and you just see now where it's like stuff, stuff starts to come off like portrayal, a little bit like the drama no because we have to just think about it.
Speaker 1:You know, I go in and I'm doing the work to cut the clip up and I'm like, oh man, she, she got her shit off here. I made sure it was a single and then cut it up, give it to her. It goes out, you know, after days of it's just sending her email, but it goes out and shade blows up and then the next day she, you know she's hyped, she's excited about you know, the success. So she starts two, excited about the success.
Speaker 2:So she starts cutting up clips.
Speaker 1:Two days later, two, three days later, she starts wanting to clip up stuff, I'm like all right, cool, you can help me out. I love that. That's why we're doing this together, so we can help each other out.
Speaker 2:She's motivated. I was the one doing the clips from the beginning and then I stopped.
Speaker 1:And then started doing them again. It was a been a team effort, but it's always been a team effort. But she comes there and then she picks another clip out again. I'm doing what I gotta do. I don't really have time to do any kind of overseeing of the clip and how she cuts this up. And I see the one that she puts out and it's like yo, you just really just cut the worst part of what I just said and then just put it out there for the masses. That's crazy. I think I'm supposed to trust you listen, I was going through the clips.
Speaker 2:I'm like boring, boring, boring, like. And then I click on this one and then I was like this is gonna get the people going, like this is salacious, this is provocative. I was like this is the one and there were no like expletives that I was like, oh, I can post this today. I can post this right now, without bleeps, without editing or nothing.
Speaker 1:This is going up and so this clip is again one of our space updates that we did, and just completely out of context of what I was saying. Now it makes it look like I'm trying to throw every black woman on the on the.
Speaker 2:I feel like, though, salem witch trial is it out of context what I was saying now it makes it look like I'm trying to throw every black woman on the on the. I feel like, though, salem witch trial. Is it out of context? Did you not mean what you said in the clip?
Speaker 1:yes, I did mean in regard, not the way that it came off, though you made it seem like it was just this abrupt like.
Speaker 2:Let me just talk about shitting on black women no, it wasn't abrupt, but that is your sentiment it was like oh, entitlement, oh these black just entitled, like that's how you made me come off, like you made me look like myra, like that was really wild.
Speaker 1:How you just cut that into like some fresh and fit type, like I had some other sauce that you could have threw in there that would have softened the blow. You just took like the roughest part of it and just rammed it yep, the ai said that that score was like a 80 something.
Speaker 2:I said the ai cool. The ai ranked it and said this is gonna go up. I said, okay, ai, I'm gonna post it just the way you clipped it.
Speaker 1:I didn't change nothing about it, the hate, the hate just kept coming in. But uh, just congrats to us. I'm excited to see our growth man, we really, we really turning up, especially on TikTok. So if you haven't already, make sure you go follow us on TikTok, because it's live.
Speaker 2:That's where all the action is for real.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of drama in our comments section. Yeah. All right, let's get to it.
Speaker 2:And then also people were dragging me along with you because I'm your wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did tell you you should divorce me.
Speaker 2:He wasn't the only one being dragged. I knew we were going to be dragged and then when I posted the other clip that's going viral right now, I thought I was going to be dragged, but everyone's agreeing with me.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, there's some dragging going on.
Speaker 2:There's a little bit, but it's not. It's like 10, 15. It's not even enough for me to notice for real all right.
Speaker 4:Mike will make her dance bands will make her dance bands will make her dance.
Speaker 1:Bands will make her dance. This is when you could get her to dance without the bands, though you just had to put the song on. Bands will make her dance.
Speaker 4:Bands will make her dance all these chicks poppin' pussy. I'm just poppin' bands. Bands will make her dance. Bands will make her dance these chicks clappin' and they ain't usin' hands. Bands will make her dance. Bands will make her dance, all these chicks poppin' pussy, I'm just poppin' bands.
Speaker 5:Bands will make her dance, bands will make her dance.
Speaker 4:These chicks clappin' and they ain't usin' hands. Short hair like Neil Long, loose one. She don't need a loan. She start twerking when she hear a song. Strip up all her income. We get tripping and then some so nasty when she rolling she put that ass off in my hands. I remote control it. She give me don. When the roof gone after KOD she leave with me. She got friends, bring three. I got drugs. Drugs. I got drank. Bend it over juicy, j gonna poke it like wet paint. You say no to ratchet juicy. Jay, can't, can't, can't, can't. Racks everywhere they showing wrecks. I'm throwing racks.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. In the video they show a girl when he says the ratchet pussy lying on a close-up, oh no niggas tipping brokeiggas lookin' and it ain't a strip club of things showin' pussy.
Speaker 2:That's a Elena nigga ass take.
Speaker 4:Bands will make her dance. All these chicks poppin' pussy. I'm just poppin' bang Bands will make her dance.
Speaker 1:Bands will make her dance.
Speaker 5:She's Southern, that's a New Yorker.
Speaker 4:Bands will make her dance. Bands will make her dance. All these chicks poppin' pussy. I'm just poppin' bang. Bands are makin' dance. Bands are makin' dance.
Speaker 5:These chicks clappin' and they ain't usin' hands. Pop that pussy for real, nigga. Pull out my black car. That's my lil' nigga. Make a movie with your bitch Steven Spiel, nigga.
Speaker 2:Steven Spiel nigga.
Speaker 5:Cold, give me chills, nigga. What's your real? Name and not your stripper name. I make it rain on you like a window pane. Bands will make her dance. So won't you make her? Come, hit it from the side Like a motherfucking bass drum. Keep that side.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that was literally.
Speaker 5:That was the whole point, that was the whole point of this play. We just playing Wayne vs Drill.
Speaker 4:Bands will make her dance. Bands will make her dance. All this cheese poppin' I'm just poppin' now. Bands will make her dance. Bands will make her dance.
Speaker 5:Ow Mario, get your keys back, baby, sorry, no, they don't mean my time.
Speaker 5:Just a remix. Baby, sorry, hook up. She say uh, I say what she say. But I say but why you stuck? She say fuck, I say who. She say not you. I said then who. She say you know I know what, you know who. I said I do. She say you knew, I said I do, but I really don't, because it's you that I really want and we can do what you really want. Girl, we grown and if he ain't gonna treat you right, then I ain't gonna treat you wrong. That's my word and done. Heard so many lies. She don't know what's true or not. She held it like a valet service. That's what she been through a lot. But I put her car in park and never let her cry alone. I listen to her heartbeat because it plays my favorite song. I can feel your heart crying out for me.
Speaker 1:This song probably saved Mario's career.
Speaker 2:Yo, that Wayne verse was one of the most ridiculous verses Like in middle school. Like me and my friends we would walk over and just go screaming.
Speaker 5:So I met this shot and I got hot now by God.
Speaker 2:Ooh, Lil Wayne ate that. Lil Wayne ate that. He ate so much.
Speaker 1:I didn't add this part to it. Are you tired?
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Speaker 1:Like what she did to me, like she was just so like hungry and I don't want to say thirsty for another viral clip that you would just throw me to the fire like that it's just, it's crazy. You know, that's what you was after. You was after another viral clip.
Speaker 2:It was salacious, it was provocative, it got the people going. That's exactly what I did it for. And then if it went up, you would be like like if it? If it had the same result as the other one and we was on our way to hundreds of thousands of views on that one, he would have been ecstatic. This would have been a completely different story but hey, it's all about the outcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh. And you know what's the funny thing about that steven spielberg line that he said you know, steven spielberg owns the movie rights to martin luther king speeches why, because it was he bought him like that's just something that you shouldn't like be able to buy he directed the color purple and he got Martin Luther King's.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Martin had a dream All right, you're now listening to Talk FNF TV.
Speaker 1:I'm your host, absurd Rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Reality Hi, and we're back to bring you some more conversation, some deep thought and a little bit of bullshit too. A lot of bullshit, you know, just a little bit in there, sprinkled in, sprinkled in. I'm a sprunk bae. Salt bae.
Speaker 3:You the nugget, I just pull off and throw it in there.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see, let's get into. Let's start with this Kendrick interview. Did you check out the Kendrick interview?
Speaker 2:I read it. It wasn't as salacious as I thought it was going to be. It was kind of more like introspective and spiritual and like talking about growth, and so I was bored.
Speaker 1:We're going to go. I'm kidding, you know you were bored, it was no.
Speaker 2:I was. It was boring but, like some, a lot. Some of it was nice to hear from Kendrick because I am a Kendrick fan and he rarely speaks. Was nice to hear from Kendrick because I am a Kendrick fan and he rarely speaks. So it was good seeing, like where his state of mind was right now as a human being. But like right now all we care about hearing you speak about is about this specific beef and like where your state of mind was around that and that was one of the questions out of the whole interview.
Speaker 1:so and then he sat down with says uh, it was harper, bizarre right yeah is this. So let's make sure we take a note of that, because that's gonna be later on in our conversation. Uh, do you believe this was actually him speaking this back and forth with her, or this was like typed up, like just print? Because, um, I've seen his interviews before and he doesn't talk this fluently, like how did?
Speaker 2:how it's written no, it was definitely like edited to make him sound better, he probably it was probably more of a. If it was an actual interview, which I hope it is, because that's just something that we don't need to start doing- but, this is like an ai interview. Yes, like I don't want us to start doing that. But um, yeah, they was probably edited and if it was an actual interview it was probably more conversational.
Speaker 1:It's probably just him and scissor sitting down, um and talking about stuff like brother or sister type shit, you know because apparently the way they set it up is they had a journalist in the room with them and then they had a conversation about you know just art where they're at, and I'm trying to find that happens regularly, but it's usually like, like celebrities interviewing each other.
Speaker 2:That's a, that's a form of content that's not new, like there's multiple platforms that do that and I enjoy those types of interviews a lot.
Speaker 1:Um, but this, this in in magazine form, it seems a little bit awkward because you, like, you're just reading it like I picture him like anybody could be asking him these questions like I picture him like in a mesh shirt with like the crown of thorns and some like awkward big glasses on just having this conversation with SZA, like it's an Indian.
Speaker 2:I was definitely imagining them both sitting Indian style and like on the floor after he just did a set of pushups, like that's what I picture this.
Speaker 1:I want to get to some of the quotes.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to find them, so one of my favorite quotes from the interview was I don't believe I'm an angry person, but I do believe in love and war and I believe they both need to exist. And that was the only question. That was really in regard to the, the drake beef, and he was basically like, yeah, I had to get my shit off, like Like, basically, that's what I got from it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so no, he had more questions about it. He had like we were talking about demeaning and not like us. This is when his shit got nuts. Okay, so this is what this nigga said.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I did see that too.
Speaker 1:Not like us is the energy of who I am, the type of man I represent. This Thus is the energy of who I am, the type of man I represent. This man has morals, he has values, he believes in something, he stands on something. He's not pandering. He's a man who can recognize his mistakes and is not afraid to share the mistakes, and can dig deep down into the fear basedbased ideologies and experiences to be able to express them without feeling like less of a man. If I'm thinking of not like us, I'm thinking of me and whoever identifies with it. Okay, so this is a bunch of bullshit, right, like you? Definitely. Can you feel that when you read that? Yeah, um, he's just talking out his ass, if he even said those words that's not.
Speaker 2:I don't think that that's the intention that he had behind it when he made the the track initially, at all like like this is the most pretentious bullshit I've.
Speaker 1:It was a, it was a it was an extremely pretentious answer.
Speaker 1:This entire interview was kind of pretentious, though I mean for sure, like that's his brand, though. Like that's why I don't think we don't give enough credit in criticizing the package that is kendrick lamar, because this is just like the dude who comes in who, like back in our day, who maybe listened to like um tribe called quest or wu-tang, shit like that, and be acting like oh, he's a snob because we was listening to, you know, roscoe, dash and ti and shit like that's how that shit was me those are the folks who used to come around like bro, like that shit is.
Speaker 1:So not, that was me.
Speaker 2:These dudes, that kind of like y'all niggas not listening to real music. You don't know what the fuck real music is.
Speaker 1:You don't know what real hip-hop is all y'all was and all y'all was saying was real music, was old music, like that's? All y'all were just saying it wasn't always old though it was.
Speaker 2:It was a bunch of new niggas underground, though it was always underground like it couldn't be mainstream.
Speaker 1:It was pretentious for a specific reason, like this and that's what I think my problem is with, like just the brand of kendrick lamar is just that it's this super preachy over pretentious like ideology that leads you nowhere. It's just selling you a bag, like a false bag of goods, and that's why I just get from when I hear that I'd rather you just give me the hedonism and I just have to decipher through the filth myself. Then you just try to like come off like you're leading me, but then you're not.
Speaker 2:Like you're leading me, but you're not responsible where I go I don't like that answer because I don't know I feel like he could have gave a more relevant answer at like, in accordance to like Drake and his position in the culture and how Kendrick feels about that, because I feel like that's what not like us was about. Was that, like you're kind of like teeter-tottering between like, I don't know, you're in black culture but you're not fully black like that's what he was trying to say right, he was trying to say that you're not really for the culture yeah, that's what it is, and you you put the culture on as like a costume to gain financially and notoriety and monetarily.
Speaker 2:But this isn't like what you were raised in and this isn't who you are and you are not like us, like this is who we are for real. So I don't, I didn't like that answer because it just, I don't know, it felt like an afterthought. It didn't feel like the conception of the song, like I wanted an actual answer as to like what it. I don't, I don't care what you thought it was, though. Like this is what happens with art. We interpret art a bunch of different ways and a bunch of people take it however they want to take it, and that's my favorite part people can interpret things the way they want to.
Speaker 2:I used to take in English class AP literature, all of that, used to sit down and then everyone would have like a completely different like train of thought that they took when they read this literature, and it's the same for music. Like you can have a completely different train of thought, and it was just like. It just seemed like he was trying so hard to sound smart in the way he was explaining it and that didn't feel genuine at all. It it, you. You didn't like this nigga because he was frying like that's it.
Speaker 1:Certified lover boy. Certified pedophile. There's not too many different ways that you can. Anybody's gonna think how we're gonna look at that. Like there's only one way. You hate this nigga and you want him to die like there's nothing. And you said that too. You yeah, like come on, like like there's no other way to spin this and like for him to not come out and be like bro, I have blood on my hands and I'm dirty like from this shit.
Speaker 2:It's just crazy and like this is the kind of the main point we went into also what I want him to get into, like how do you feel after calling a nigga a pedophile? Like, that's the real, that's the real team.
Speaker 1:And then performing it over and over again, but we can't have that conversation yet. To the super bowl now. Yeah, because he can't speak.
Speaker 2:Really, that's the thing that this whole interview to me it was too early and it was just nonsense but this whole interview.
Speaker 1:What it gave to me was just, I'm trying to position myself with advertisers, so I'm not going to say anything crazy, I'm not going to do anything to kind of wake this up to it. It makes more people do a deep dive on it and kind of look into even more of his history, because he doesn't want that. Um, so I just I just see that this was just such a pr fluff interview that it makes me ask this question and we can get into this a little bit further is when is kendrick going to be held responsible for black media, now that, especially that he's considered the number one guy like when is he going to be responsible? The same way, everybody kept saying oh, drake is fucked up for not sitting down with x, y and Z what do you mean responsible?
Speaker 1:for black media, because he sits down with people. He hasn't sat down in a while with any black media besides the California people that he'll show love to like Big Boi and all them. But no, when has he sat down with an LEA? When has he sat down with Joe? Joe's been begging essentially for the interview since the beef started. I feel as though, because of where he's at, he kind of owes hip hop at least one or two deep interviews with, before the Super Bowl at least.
Speaker 2:But when I saw this interview, I thought that that's what he was giving us something in a more controlled environment.
Speaker 1:But even then, Harper Bazaar is not black.
Speaker 2:It's not black and it's not hip hop, it's, it's fashion.
Speaker 1:It's a fashion magazine. I wouldn't have been mad if it being out of the genre. If at least could have been a black publication. I don't care, make it a black publication.
Speaker 2:I'd rather fuck complex, complex owned by white people like. So what, what, what?
Speaker 1:what publication, though I mean it could have been any low pie could have been podcast you to went to and they could have did a uh you know, just give somebody a transcript of your shit before the podcast come out.
Speaker 1:Just anybody, give somebody an opportunity. Could have been taylor rook shit. She does good interviews, even though it's mostly sports, so I mean anybody would have been better than harper bazaar. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just to me where we have to at some point hold him responsible. Like we said, we talked about it with the bt awards. They give you 12 awards and you can't even show up once you can't do a video up though? But cool you.
Speaker 2:But you're supposed to be the leader like nobody showed up to that shit, because it was kind of like a it's you're still supposed to be. It was so less than as a production.
Speaker 1:That's cool, okay, cool send up a video, set up some cameras, give us a cool little five, five minute video thanking the BET awards, telling you love the people in the culture, something, but it's like there's no onus on him the way it has been on Drake, and it's just to me it's just bizarre that we have all these people who don't get any love from this guy, and the reason they show hate towards Drake was for the same reason that Kendrick does to them, which is snub them the entire time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me see. Let me see if Kendrick like what? What interviews has Kendrick done lately? I mean, it hasn't been a minute. Yeah, he's one of those niggas that kind of just like stays to himself.
Speaker 1:completely I can't think of anything since the last project, like even when he went on tour. I can't think of any big interview that popped up, unless it may have been something overseas where it had been like a profile or something on him. But, I can't imagine, I can't even think of anything that would resonate. That said okay that's.
Speaker 2:That's the Kendrick interview. That's, yeah, the main thing. The first thing that pops up is a GQ interview he did eight years ago see that's starting to come up.
Speaker 1:That's not yeah, he really, he does not interview at all and, but then again, like I said you still, it's a give and take relationship with the media. When you do this, they're going to cover you. When you do good shit, like have the concert that he did, the tour that he did, but in the same token, like you have to show some type of love, you have to extend some type of love, and all I'm seeing is him right now is take, and this is everything you accuse Drake of being Taking, taking, taking, taken and not giving up anybody. Who we putting on. We're gonna have baby keen, like like come on and whoever is, whoever else is I'm just saying like employed with um tde, or yeah or tde.
Speaker 2:So I mean yeah and all of that production and all that stuff but it goes even deeper than that, because did you see punches tweet? No, what did he tweet? Okay, I got it right here so he said.
Speaker 1:I respect hip-hop journalism and feel as needed in its truest form. It helps keep the culture alive, but there's only a few real ones left. Most of you guys are trash, just in my opinion. That's why the artists don't want to talk to you. That's bullshit.
Speaker 2:That's bullshit even if it is Was Kendrick's criticism that he doesn't do black media, or was that the internet?
Speaker 1:So the criticism stemmed from the fact that Drake that used to be the talk point Elliot came out a while ago. Remember he did the Bobby Otto interview and he did the Barstool interview.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it started coming out was oh Drake's not doing black media. That became the narrative. That's what I feel like fueled the fire for the beef. That happened later on.
Speaker 2:I feel like the beef probably I'm talking about for the media.
Speaker 1:The media was able to put more fire on because nobody was really supporting Drake. Yeah, that's what. I mean so he wasn't. They wasn't supporting him when the beef happened. They stopped supporting him in that moment. What I'm saying is is Kendrick never did any of that. Y'all never held him to that standard either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Kendrick is a shut in Like he's done like, but that should be like that should be come with some type of.
Speaker 1:You lose points for that.
Speaker 2:You do lose points for that. Like Beyonce hasn't done an interview in mad long either, like there's a lot of people that basically don't pop out Beyonce Jay-Z. There's a lot of people that basically don't pop out. Beyonce j. There's a lot of people who basically never pop out and give us interviews. Drake pops out once in a while with a white publication to give us an interview.
Speaker 1:Kendrick pops out but he does also. He'll do his own live streams and stuff. Drake interacts with his people and yeah, and kendrick doesn't and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He doesn't even post on his instagram, like on social media. He'll post something when he's dropping, other than that we get nothing.
Speaker 1:It's like being in an abusive relationship no, but that's remember.
Speaker 2:I've said this on this podcast over and over and over again that I want you niggas to be a little bit more mysterious and I want to know less about you, and I want to know less of your opinions and I want you to give me the art, and then I want you to shut the fuck up and go home.
Speaker 1:No, and I respect that. But in the conversation I'm having here, I'm talking about media having a criticism on Drake.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just don't want you to frame it around like Kendrick had that criticism and he's a I said it the entire time, media was criticizing Drake and nobody is now holding Kendrick to that standard, and that's the problem I've been having just with the whole thing, because that's what Drake's whole point was in his battle Was nigga you, just me, packaged differently, and nobody wants to wake that part up because we're so Packaged differently, because he's like actually in this shit, no, you're just as much in this shit as I am. No, like he grew up in it, Drake. Come on, now we can say he grew up in it cool.
Speaker 2:Where do you keep saying where did Drake in Memphis? He was there for the summer.
Speaker 1:He fucking went to his deadbeat daddy house once every three years to Memphis to be black a little bit, like come on, can't be deadbeat if there's a post in there.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 1:Can't be deadbeat if there's a post in there.
Speaker 2:So can't be a deadbeat.
Speaker 1:If it's a post in there, post a post like a oh nigga was trying, but no, what I'm saying is is cool, he grew up into the culture, but you still it's not. It's not just because I grew up in the culture. I can just take, take, take. I still have to give back to it and he's not giving back to it. In a real it's supposed to be an ecosystem you make music, you make events, you come and sit down, we talk to it, we make it a big production and we continue that process and now he's no longer. He's never really given that, but now he's definitely no longer giving that to black media and I just want everybody to have the same criticism for everybody. We're going to be doing this, judging things accordingly. Shit on him the same way you shit on Drake.
Speaker 2:I'm sure Kendrick is doing things for his culture and his community, but he historically has not been a nigga who's been loud about anything.
Speaker 1:He pops out, he drops his music, he leaves, and he has been doing so since like 2007, when I say community, I mean in the industry of black media in relation to their black stars, because again, this isn't just a kendrick problem. Historically we've had issues with black artists in any genre, any type of art or entertainment industry not wanting to give interviews, not wanting to give looks to black media. They'll just walk right past you on the red carpet. That's happened plenty of time. Where, where it's happened so often, where we now highlight when the actors know say no, I want to talk to my people. That reminds me of of something.
Speaker 2:Laur oach told this story in an interview that he did this year. I don't even know when it was, but he said that the, when he was dressing your, the, the black celebrities, your Tyler Perry's, your this and that's. You know, um, the big houses were like you're not, you don't work with anybody of like any actual stature. When he started working with like other white celebrities and stuff, then that's when he started getting the, the attention from like the bigger, more established couture houses, and then he said that he swore to himself that he would never work with these other celebrities, like the black celebrities again, so that he could be taken seriously. And then, looking back, like in hindsight, like 10 years after now, he was like what the fuck was I doing? Because he should have like stood 10 toes down and just been talented and worked with the people that he should he wanted to work with and still worked with the people in the, the black community, like he, like the, when you it doesn't even matter when you think about him and who he works with.
Speaker 2:But I feel like a lot of people probably fall under that um, like they're trying to like fit the status quo and like look like they're serious. So, um, when you want to look like you're serious, you want to do interviews with like a Vogue, a Harper's Bazaar, instead of sitting down with like a Drink Champs or something like that and getting shit faced. But it's, it's extremely important. It's extremely important for you to sit down with the Joe Budden podcast, to sit down with the Drink Champs, to sit down with the Gillies. The sit down with the Gillies and Wallows and stuff like that, because, like you're feeding your culture Like this is, this is who you need to prioritize.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said, I would love to just see him have a real like cutthroat, like really to the bones conversation about this because, like I said, this was a big moment in hip hop. So, and just like you said, just to get into his mind frame and his mindset and how these beats came about, like people are going to want to hear this I, yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Want to hear about him reaching out to other producers, how he got the beats, I wonder. I want to hear him talk about how not like us was received and how he took that and then like I don't want to hear on your shit like.
Speaker 1:I don't want to hear where you control the narrative and everybody in the interviewers are all working for you. I want to hear it from somebody who's an unbiased, objective, you know, journalist or or party not, and that's what I'm saying. Even joe budden shit. It's going to be a cool interview, but you know what joe does? He does the vibe shit. He may get into it a little bit, but if he sees that he's not trying to get into that, he's not gonna try like to dig deep into that. So that's what I'm saying like I just really want.
Speaker 2:I just feel like, as the consumers, the people who enjoyed it, we deserve, we deserve that at least yeah, I didn't enjoy that interview that much as someone who was like very heavily invested in this beef, but as somebody who is a sisa fan and a kendrick fan, because it wasn't just a kendrick interview, like sisa was speaking a lot too and she was giving her perspective and it was them just back and forth. So it wasn't what I was expecting, but it was.
Speaker 1:It was an interview okay, so something I want to switch it up to a little bit into the sports side. So you, are you familiar with Deshaun Watson? He's the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. He was also the quarterback for the houston texans. He had like 20 cases of sexual misconduct okay, yeah so, yeah, freak boy, so recently he just got hurt, uh, he tore like he tore his achilles last week last sunday, uh, and the crowd was cheering for him while he was injured on the ground, like because he's a freaky nigga so it's layered.
Speaker 1:So he's been playing like trash, like hot garbage this year, like almost like bro. You should have never been given 231 million dollars guaranteed wow like you should have never been given that.
Speaker 1:Like that's how bad he's been playing. It's been awful, but that's more so. The reason why the people feel, I think, is why they feel like they're okay to cheer at his demise, because not only have you been playing like shit for us, but you also freaky ass boy yeah. So I felt kind of weird because I seen a lot of grandstanding going on on timeline, people saying like oh, y'all are wrong for cheering him being hurt and stuff like. But like like oh, y'all are wrong for cheering him being hurt and stuff like that. But like to the nigga who I understand civil cases and stuff like that, you're not like admitting guilt when you settle, but like when you settle on 20 cases like that and you pay out my nigga, you're like a little guilty, like you did something you're more than a little guilty like you did something wrong, my nigga for you to not even fight that you didn't want, like they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1:No, not in not with civil cases.
Speaker 2:Okay, but like you didn't want it to go past that, Mm-hmm Right, so you settled in the civil case instead of taking it to actual criminal court.
Speaker 1:Well, it was never going to be criminal court. Okay, that's what I'm saying, that okay you wasn't ever gonna take something like that to criminal, you have to take it to civil court but there's no way he was gonna win that because there was so many women coming to the, to the front about it.
Speaker 1:Like the thing is like if you knew this nigga history, you knew he was a freaky ass nigga. Because in his life it was like his rookie year, his second year he was in a video online with mila khalifa, like just chilling around in like the apartment type shit, and you know nigga got freaky with it. Like you could just tell the vibe was whenever either we already did it or it's about to happen in a couple moments, so you can already tell nigga was on the freak time. And it's funny because, like, when you think about it, you just like start to like let your brain go wild about it.
Speaker 1:You like bro really just had an insatiable sex habit that he needed to put women in a situation that they didn't know what was about to happen, because he wanted to make like his own porno, like because that's what was happening. It was women who were giving him massages, massage therapist, and he'd be like, oh, grab my dick. Or you know I'm saying he was saying do some weird shit or maybe start stroking his shit. You know why the girl was rubbing on his leg, or like he would just do weird shit, like there's like so many. Like they said, he jacked off on, like jerked off and came on some women like shit like that.
Speaker 2:He was doing wild boy activity, my question, though, not to victim blame, ever at all. I would never want to do that. But how does a nigga jerk off on you to completion?
Speaker 1:he might be quick with it to completion. He might be quick with it.
Speaker 2:You might be able to get to it like you gotta, like it could be the excitement of what's going on to him, like he has to be jerking off in secret and you not know. And then come on, you surprise come.
Speaker 1:Or it could be like her reaction being scared could just increase the arousal for him. And then it just so. As soon as you realize what's going on, now he's. He's up. The ante is up, like I'm gone.
Speaker 2:It's about to splash out on you there could be coercion in the situation which you would not want to leave, and I get that. But like, if it's a surprise situation you can't surprise, jerk off to completion on anybody you don't know how to, you don't know his anatomy you don't know his body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unless he comes he could like I'm trying to tell you. It could be a sense of like he's doing it because he knows it's, you know, nefarious type shit, and in the moment you're like, oh my god, like what are you doing? He's, that's it for him. That is the moment, and now he's at completion. He climaxed and now it's on you. Sorry, he's embarrassed.
Speaker 2:Here's some money I apologize, I'd be jerking off in the dollar tree well, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1:I wanted to ask. That's all I'm saying it's a. Thing in real life. I wanted to ask do you?
Speaker 3:think I'll be afraid to go in the dollar trees now I don't know which state this man lives in.
Speaker 1:Okay, continue I'm gonna talk about some jack and shit in the dollar tree it's just, twitter is a lawless land what I'm asking you is do you think that that the fans were wrong for cheering for my hurt like that?
Speaker 2:no, they are drunk. They off one, they, they have the whole competitive energy in the air. You know, like morality is not something that you're gonna immediately think of and be like oh my god, my heart no this nigga is playing.
Speaker 2:He's been playing garbage the whole time. He's been acting like a nasty ass nigga too. He shouldn't even gotten this money. We don't want him here. Half the people don't want him here. The other half wanted him here and now he's being trash. And we gave you the money. No, get him the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:Like, see the reason why I feel like that is the only reason it's warranted. Because if he was hurt and he was playing like garbage but he didn't do the 20 bodies like, I wouldn't feel like you would cheer for that. No, and somebody I saw somebody Nick Wright made a good point on his podcast. He said if he had touched kids he wouldn't be on a team Not at all.
Speaker 1:And if he had did the same shit with men he wouldn't be on a team because it would be making uncomfortable for the players on the team yeah so like for the fact that he was even playing shows a bigger thing of what the nfl thinks of domestic violence and abuse towards women it was a slap in the face but then also, in the same token, it's like you it is. It isn't. Is it good? I don't know. I'm the type of nigga to kick a nigga when he down at the best time, like the best time To kick a nigga Is when he's down.
Speaker 2:He's already down. That's the best time to do it. Your foot doesn't have To do much work.
Speaker 1:That's why I said, when I saw that they were cheering for him, the only reason I'm like, okay, y'all would be crying if it tours like that, like y'all would be in y'all fucking yeah y'all would be crying in your feelings about that.
Speaker 1:So that's why this thing is fucked up, because y'all don't care about the women. Y'all just using as a moment to get your football hate off for a nigga who, again, I don't give a fuck. I wouldn't give a fuck about him. Anyway, nigga, it's all guaranteed 231, no matter what. He don't gotta play a goddamn down whether you cheer or whether you're sobbing.
Speaker 2:This nigga got 231 in the bank so again that little achilles after after allegations. Yeah, this nigga is god's favorite for real. He had, he got 231 in the bank and now he no longer has to put his body at risk if he doesn't have to play anymore.
Speaker 1:His body's destroyed. Now that fucking Achilles. Well, I mean, he can come back from Achilles Like what An Achilles Nigga go start a that's no joke, though that's not fun.
Speaker 2:Who needs an Achilles if you have 231 in the bank? Fuck my Achilles.
Speaker 1:Take my achilles, take both of them, give me the 231 like oh man. Well, should we wish him a healthy recovery?
Speaker 2:no, just like, just do just have a black man, somebody go get his other achilles like for real, like that's how I feel. You settled on 20 allegations apparently there's some more too.
Speaker 1:That just came out recently. So like what is happening the fucked up part two is and we can finish up with this fucked up part two was like they came out when he had asked for a trade, like right before he asked, like right after he asked for a trade. So a lot of people were thinking like this was a connection of people within the city to smear his name. Um, because he was trying to lead the city.
Speaker 2:That's a conspiracy.
Speaker 1:I mean, he ended up sitting for a whole year and they paid him the whole time and he didn't have to play. And then he went to the Browns, sat for part of his suspension and they came back. They thought they was ready and he came and laid an egg on them. Boys, that was robbery though. Congratulations are in order. Dre, michelle's baby father has signed a new contract.
Speaker 2:He did that's not what he's known as, and you're such a shady nigga for that.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, like he's his, that's his mama. So, uh, jaylen green signed a contract three and I was a little off. I said this was gonna happen. I said this. Remember I talked about this.
Speaker 1:I said he was gonna be due for a contract extension soon yeah I was a little off on the numbers, uh, but he signed for a three-year, 106 million dollars 106 million dollar contract. So I was in the two I said he was gonna sign for like the 240 260 range. Apparently he did something he was the first rookie to do this. He signed a two-for-one in regards to getting two years and a player option for his third year. So instead of doing the entire five years where he'll probably be like 28, 27 when he ends his contract, this particular contract gives him an option to be a free agent again at 25, where he can then sign another deal at 25, where he can then sign another deal, probably a five-year deal that time, for whatever team he wants to be on and get to be able to get the max contract then. And then now you're good to your 30. You don't have to worry about signing another contract to your 30. And then, if he's healthy, that's almost a chance for another.
Speaker 1:By that time, shit, he'll probably be signing like a 400 500 million dollar contract, maybe more than that damn for the photos for that time frame, because it'll be somewhere north of 70 million by that time he signs that second deal. I mean that deal after this one, so I mean this one well, congratulations, drea he is taking a risk, though.
Speaker 1:I will say this though he is taking a risk on it because he could definitely something happen, and now he missed out on that extra hundred, something, million that now, instead of getting it for two years, he's gonna have to get it for over five or six years. So he is taking a chance, but he's always been somebody who has done that. But uh, with dre, and now we got to get into her. This is where it comes down to. Did you see the little, the messages that she was talking about supporting with? I think y'all were gassing it because y'all tried to act like she was. She act like she hit the lottery or something. She just said some really like cute little supportful shit like yeah, read it to me.
Speaker 2:I didn't see always say hold on.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to see if I have it up here, because they make everything so hard to find now but, since she was just like giving him a shout out for being like the resourceful kid that he's always been, or man that he's always been in regards to you know, going the opposite way, not following the trends. When you met him, he was a kid yeah, following the opposite trends, and so that was pretty much the main thing she said.
Speaker 2:Going against the status quo because you knocked up an old bitch. But that's not really against the status quo, no more.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I think he to a degree, I think maybe she might have played a reason into why he signed this kind of contract, Because if something happens within that time frame, that three-year time frame, you may be able to get yourself locked in to like a good child support number. So then when you sign in that other contract now she either got to go to court and change everything around, or you could maybe cut up a little bit more. You bring it up a little bit rather than what the courts would take it to, and then now overall you keep more of your money on the back end of it.
Speaker 1:It depends on what state are they in Texas, right now, but she could easily just move to LA and start trying to rob this nigga his shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's where.
Speaker 1:L, this nigga, his shit, yeah. So that's what lets you rob niggas, yeah. So I mean that's where I think that he's trying. If I'm him, I'm being smart with the contract as well, because going that out there like that and then something happens, now my whole life is my whole career, my whole life just moves a whole different way. You see, like lonzo ball shit, like he's not going to get another big deal, like he did when he signed for like that four-year 84 million dollars. So it's really gets like scary after that, after that next deal, especially the way he plays. So but how does he play? He's very athletic, he's very jump bouncy. His athleticism is a big part of his game. So him getting hurt would take away from that. But I just think that we need to discuss this dre's plan. It it worked, at least in the long run, to say it did work.
Speaker 1:Obviously $106 million.
Speaker 2:Obviously it worked.
Speaker 1:The long game is there that?
Speaker 2:was not the argument here. It's nasty work.
Speaker 1:It is, but she picked the right one. If anybody was to go after, that was the smartest lick to go after, because I think he is more impressionable than what many would lead to believe. Like I said, he didn't go to college, so it's this is.
Speaker 2:It's the same reason why these older niggas be going after the 2021 year olds. They're more impressionable, but at least there's a biological precedent there, like the younger you know the fertile womb.
Speaker 1:Like there's at least that kind of biological precedent there, y'all, it's not necessary.
Speaker 1:I mean, there has been studies that said that, like old men produce, like you know, kids that may not be up to par because they're seeming being older oh, yeah, yeah, yeah but I mean that's still not as, I guess, viewed, viewed in the sciences, of common people the same way, because they think most time you think the woman is older than the egg. Is common people the same way, because they think most of the time they think if the woman is older, then the egg is older, and that's usually the problem. But I mean, I came out of some old jizz, you know I came out alright.
Speaker 3:Arguable. I just feel bad, just thinking about this nigga gonna be.
Speaker 1:His kid's gonna be 20 years old. He'll have a 60-year-old baby mama. That's wild. Oh the have a 60 year old baby mama. That's why what the? Oh the child? Yeah, the child gonna be 20 years old and jaylen gonna be in his 40s, and with a 60 year old baby mama that's insane.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think he's hoping that she gonna die it's 460 I'm just talking shit bro, I'm just talking shit my nigga 60 is mad young in the scheme of things.
Speaker 1:That's sick. All right, let's stay into the sports still with LeBron.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Three sports topics in a row, Like what the fuck? We are not a sports podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, we can get into your HBCU topic then.
Speaker 2:Yes, what's the homecoming three sports? Well, the sports didn't have nothing.
Speaker 1:I was just staying in sports because I was gonna talk about lebron and big meech and what he said what did lebron say about big meech? He was basically giving him a shout out for you know doing his time, and why is lebron shouting out big meech? Do you not see? That's what I wanted to ask. You are a family man.
Speaker 2:You're a the. You are the picture of the upstanding black man. This man was ravaging the black community. You should not be shouting him out. Just let him get out of jail and shut the fuck up no, like I, to me.
Speaker 1:I just think I see that as being so problematic just because, as have I said here on numerous occasions, I believe lebron james is one of the top three black men of all time historically yep and for you to give credence to this other individual, because you may have some type of reverence for him or whatever, um, and because I think because the star show was good.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure lebron partied with him, because they got caught like in the late 2000s and so they was doing it big during lebron's probably rookie year, when he was young, and shit like that oh okay, how long was big meach?
Speaker 1:in jail for bmf, went to jail like the late 2000s. Okay, lebron and him, like I said, he probably knew bruh, he probably seen bruh out, he probably done partied around bruh. But you just kind of got to think about in totality like he is like the epitome of how we were able to take away and destroy that part of our community. That could have been something that we used to empower us, like I say, with the gang shit all the time. Like the gangs could have been supporting the labor unions, making sure niggas on the block was getting paid right but instead they was filling up their own pockets and he was the epitome of that.
Speaker 1:Like, if you watch the documentaries, the reason why his brother and them wanted to stop fucking with him was because he was partying and making too much noise and all that kind of shit like, and they didn't want to be a part of like being active like that. And you also got to take into consideration, bro, like, even if this man didn't shoot nobody, he was responsible for a market that created violence and people did lose their lives because he was filling the block up with this product that they were now fighting and killing each other for yeah, so even if he never pulled the gun, even though there has been instances he was again proxy for that.
Speaker 1:So that's why I just feel like lebron was dead ass wrong for in any kind of capacity your image does not need to be near his image whatsoever, and I don't want to hear that shit about.
Speaker 1:Oh, he did his time, he a black man fuck that. This nigga is not nelson mandela. Like this is not like no, not at all. This nigga is not somebody who is like saving the black community. He was not putting the money that he was trapping and shit back in it. He may have did some shit here and there locally and that was cool and cute, whatever, but that nigga was not formulating no plan. This nigga was not no fucking freedom fighter, bro. This nigga was a gangster.
Speaker 2:What he was doing in the long run did more damage to the black community than the little bit of good that he tried to do with't caring about no, niggas, that nigga wasn't caring about no, niggas.
Speaker 1:When he was out, bro, he was caring about his own pockets, bro, that shit don't change. You seen the video with him in little meech now? No, nigga had some chick doing his fucking nails you know, I'm saying getting his little manicure and all that other shit and he got this fucking big ass bmf chain on. I'm like bro, nigga, you ain't learning shit, you ain't learning a damn thing. Bro, like you coming out there.
Speaker 1:Still, I'm not surprised what did you think that he was gonna like there's a whole show man that glorified, I'd have been like, man, fuck all that bro, get me out of here with all that bro.
Speaker 2:I want nothing to do with any of that there's a whole show that glorified everything that he did. Like he, there's mass. I think I'm big beach like that's what I don't again.
Speaker 1:I can understand you coming out trying to capitalize on all that shit, but in the same token, don't look at me and say that I gotta think that you did your time and you did. That's always old now. No nigga. You changed people's lives bro you changed the whole community. You changed the whole, like the way that the gangster was presented from the 2000s on, is an archetype from you.
Speaker 2:Like you were, you was who Jeezy was copying a lot of yeah, a lot of people tried to emulate what you did your image and they put that on what became being a gangster like again, young Jeezy.
Speaker 1:Uh, I believe Fabulous was also associated with BMF.
Speaker 2:So again y'all was pushing these musicians, all that stuff, but they was pushing y'all ideologies, things that y'all agree with, and y'all was poisoning the fucking community and I don't think that you need to get fucking praise for that organized crime is always a double-edged sword, right, because with the italian mafia in new york and stuff, like you could say that with unions and things, they did a lot of things to solidify the um financial security of like a bunch of people with unions, but they also killed so many people and caused so many violence, so much violence. And that's the same thing that that Meech did. Like you could say that he helped a lot of people in his um direct black community, but then it it was to the detriment of a bunch of other black people. So with organized crime it's always a double-edged sword and it's not. It's not the best route.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not the best route when there's like, at least like even with Tookie, I wasn't mad when niggas tried to do that because at least when they tried to start the crips and all that shit, it was for community shit and it just got perverted as time went on and money became the focus yeah so like, but you came in this shit he came in this drug shit to make money and to only help himself and for niggas to try to paint him as anything other than that is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1:that that's my main thing. Like, if he come out and he's showing like he on some change, I'm a salute him, I'm gonna say big ups. But he's not for you, for you to say as LeBron James for you to say you know, salute on him getting out or whatever, and he hasn't even done one ounce of any tangible reform, just to see that there's been reform. That's crazy to me, that's irresponsible to me in a big way.
Speaker 2:I agree with you.
Speaker 1:Because we get associated with this shit so easily and anytime some bad shit happen. When these niggas do shit, then it's a black problem. But that don't ever happen for the white, white people shoot up school, there ain't no white problem, it's just a problem. But that don't never happen. For the white, white people shoot up school, there ain't no white problem, it's just a problem. For that it's a mental health problem, but there ain't no white problem speaking of black, speaking of black problems.
Speaker 2:Y'all was showing ass at homecoming.
Speaker 2:They've been doing that y'all was showing ass cheeks at the homecoming and y'all got the aunties up in arms on tiktok. So there's there's one specific one that I do want to play, um, because it it it made me feel so many things Like I agreed with her and it was. It was such a visceral, violent reaction from me for like both sides of what she was talking about. But if y'all don't know, the hbcu homecomings were like last week, recently, and, um, the elders were not amused by how the young women were dressed. So we're about to play something that I think wraps it up real well.
Speaker 6:It's sad when HBCU alumni go to their homecoming and didn't have to jump on this app and reprimand the students because it was so much ass out for homecoming Like this, what y'all learning at the tune of 25,000 a year. Y'all didn't have to go to college to be looking like that and I'm going to touch y'all hand when I say this You're pretty from the front. There is a dehumanization that we do to ourselves as black women when we put all our stock, all our glories, in our ass where no one can see our face. You're not a horse, you're not a dog. You're not some animal. You're not a horse. You're not a dog. You're not some animal. You're a woman. You're a woman.
Speaker 6:Dr Du Bois coined the term the talented 10th, and it may have been classes or elitist, but those who go to this is college. Yeah, it's a university. That's the number one place to level up. Like beyond, there's elders, there, beyond, there's children, there, beyond, there's connections made. Represent your college well, and I want to represent the best of my university, not the worst okay, kasha, quick before we get into this.
Speaker 1:when I said that last week about what angel reese I got, pushback from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you about to get pushback from me right now too. You don't know my opinion about what she said.
Speaker 1:I mean you said you agreed with her.
Speaker 2:I said there were parts. I said that this conflicted me. I was conflicted by this.
Speaker 1:All I'm saying is that's what I want wmba leaders to do.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I was conflicted by this because on one hand, like I do believe in body positivity and everything of that nature, on the other hand I feel like she is kind of like pushing a little bit of respectability politics. But when she said that you are pretty from the front, I was like okay, yes, but why? Why do you think that every woman who is like showing a little bit as she don't think that she pretty?
Speaker 1:from the front.
Speaker 2:See, now you're taking something out of, now you're convoluting something no, but like you're not, no, she don't think that she not pretty from the front.
Speaker 1:She's saying your humanity and your beauty is shown through your, the front of you, the moment that you turn around. You are objecting yourself and you are presenting yourself.
Speaker 2:OK, damn, I forgot what I was about to say.
Speaker 1:That's why.
Speaker 2:OK, that's what I was going to say next. And then I was like for a second I agreed with her and then I was like but this comes from the the same generation. As like freak nick, like this isn't something new. Like your generation was doing this at homecoming too. It's not a shock, and it's not a surprise whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Y'all was showing ass in in denim shorts and now the girlies are showing ass in bubble skirts, like y'all just showing ass in different ways I got a question if I'm a crack head and I did crack for 15 years and I told you don't do crack, does that mean that the advice that I gave you is bullshit, because I did crack for 15 years?
Speaker 2:because you know crack is a blast but you get what I'm saying you know that.
Speaker 1:I know crack is a blast, so you sound like a hypocrite but don't say crack is a blast like that niggas gonna think we on some shit nah, but I assume crack is a blast.
Speaker 2:No, it's addictive, wouldn't be doing it?
Speaker 1:no, it's not. It's addictive. That's why they doing it.
Speaker 2:I don't think you're getting this argument off with me because I've been wanting to do crack for a little, a little bit, but I just don't.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding, you can't say you can't be a black woman with your hair natural and saying on a mic that's fucking nuts, like that's crazy as fuck, I've never wanted to do crack guys, I just be saying shit on the mic for real.
Speaker 1:That's crazy no, but I think I think you should give me a four c I think you should give me a different example, because I don't, I don't like say, if I've done something over time and I know the effects of doing that, of course I should be the one to tell you that this may be not be a good idea.
Speaker 2:That's not how youth works I know I have to learn from my mistakes, not from your old ass telling me what your mistakes were.
Speaker 1:But what your point was. You, you devalued her point by saying y'all was the generation that did x, y, z and freak nick. And what I'm telling you is the women who were went through freak nick and will tell you that the shit that was uncomfortable, they felt unsafe, they felt abused, all this shit that happened. They're telling you hey, you don't have to present their self like that, because those are sometimes the consequences of doing that the young girls are not gonna listen, because that's how young people are.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. They have to learn from experience. They're not gonna learn.
Speaker 1:Well, that's two things.
Speaker 2:There's two different things, though they're not gonna learn from, from you preaching to them on the internet and you making it a thing so that, like, a bunch of people can now think that it's okay to you critique young people on the college campuses and making like outside of the culture, making videos about it. Now it's a whole thing on tiktok and a bunch of people are talking about it because the the older black woman who did the same thing when they were young. It's so easy for you to forget that you were forget though it's not a forget it's, it's I think it is.
Speaker 1:I was a whore and I know why are you yelling because I was trying to be dramatic damn you just trying to mess up shit if I was a whore and I know what whore results are going to get you.
Speaker 2:So don't be a whore like that's why they're telling you that okay, but like just because you won't listen to it doesn't mean it should not be said it should be said still, but it's a waste, because your mama told you not to do that and you did it, and now you're telling her not to do it and she don't do it and again.
Speaker 1:But the point is you, as the adult, should still be the one telling them that, especially when you have experienced something similar. Like that's what I think you're. You're convoluting to think. Of course kids are not going to always listen 100 percent, but there are going to be kids that will. That's why there needs to be adults who are speaking these truths and for y'all to like. Every time someone criticize y'all on the choices y'all make.
Speaker 1:Go back to respectability politics. Y'all I'm not kidding you always bring it up. You always talk about respectability politics. When we have these conversations about appearance and things like that. Y'all can't keep using that as a coat because at some point there's a responsibility and a consequence that comes with your actions and you have to now live that. It's not always going to be enough. I'm not saying it's abuse, Like people try to assume that, but no, it's being devalued. It's being looked at a certain way. It's being not offered up certain things or being looked like you can be considered for certain things because of the color of your skin, like shit. Like that happens when you allow your culture and your people to be associated that widespread. I don't care if there's whores. There should be black whores, because there's gonna be niggas who want to purchase it. But being a black whore should not look more appealing than being a black girl who works in office like it just shouldn't.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's more appealing, like who thinks it's more appealing? A?
Speaker 1:whole bunch of girls when they say why would I go work a job like that for eight hours when I can go for two hours and make what you made?
Speaker 2:but that's not the general consensus. Yes, there's a lot of women who feel that is not the fucking general consensus, but there's a lot of ways it's a growing consensus, it's a growing sentiment. It's not generally like. Most women are not choosing to be whores. That's what.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying, I'm not saying that most women, I'm saying that there's okay there are women, though, who are like. I knew a girl who was a teacher and she put a mask on and was doing sex content because she was able to make more money doing the sex content than she was being a teacher but most of the time you're gonna make more money doing the sex content you are doing the job that you're doing.
Speaker 1:That is a whole different conversation but that's what I'm saying is, when we're, when we're allowing those things to fester and create even bigger and bigger trend, we'll just get a more widespread trend. Then you have those problematic things that come along with it, and then nobody can defend that, because we already have these sentiments in regards to the line of work I don't think that there are more whores per se, I just I just think that they have a bigger platform.
Speaker 2:No, I just um. For me, specifically, it was. I was conflicted on this whole topic because there is a part of me that feels like, yes, you're on a college campus, you're around elders. There are definitely spaces where you should adhere to like a specific dress code or try to lean towards like a little bit more modest. But then there's a part of me also that wants everybody like I want this idealistic world where women don't want to lean towards like the morals and and all of that because I would rather the idealistic world be the world that we exist in. But it's not realistic. Like you have to. You do have to be realistic and that is kind of a delusion to think that you can dress however you want whenever you want and not be judged because of that.
Speaker 2:But I just wish that didn't happen and that this topic specifically brought out that, like the difference in my, my opinions between those two things. Like women should be able to wear whatever the fuck they want whenever they want, but there are situations where you should take into consideration, like what your surroundings are. And yeah, it's just a. It's an interesting topic to me. So the um I guess campaigning for the Grammys or whatever, or the Grammy nominations came out as of late and um Tyla and her team had submitted to um compete in the r&b artist grammy category, but the grammys decided to put her in the pop artist nomination instead. Now that category is stacked with, like sabrina carpenter, um what's the lesbian?
Speaker 2:chapel roan um charlie roman, charlie xcx I think her name is tay little mad that they put her in the pop uh genre instead of r&b. Arguably, though, tyla is not r&b.
Speaker 1:She doesn't make r&b music she doesn't make pop no, water was pop, water was pop, water was to me water was pop are you sure her team was upset about that. They said to her team, yeah because that, to me, I get why they'd be upset, because if you want to go to r&b, it's because you want her to win something yeah, but she's already won a grammy for um like every year, african artists.
Speaker 1:But every year you want to win something so that's what I'm saying that's why they put you in the r&b, because they know it's the same thing they did with the tommy richmond nigga they put him in the hip hop category even though he just came out earlier, so he wasn't hip hop.
Speaker 2:Yes, which was not, which wasn't smart on his end, because you don't need to say that we all know you're not hip hop motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Well see, that's the thing. Well, we never talked about that, but we can touch on a little bit, because I never heard my point about it being expressed. Two things can be true. He could have said that because he knew his team was going to put him in the hip hop category and he didn't like that. When they nominate you, he don't own his music Like I know that they'll try to act like he does.
Speaker 2:No people campaign for you. Yeah, well, I'm saying, not even that.
Speaker 1:Even if you put the music up there, he don't make that call. There's somebody else in his team that makes that call to send it to the Grammys. They're going to put it in there to nominate you whatever they can win. So there could easily have been a conversation to say, hey, these are the things we nominated you for. He sees it says oh, I'm not hip-hop does a uh interview where he maybe asked that question to be brought up so that I thought he just tweeted it.
Speaker 1:I thought he was in an interview when he said that okay, he could look it up while you talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah uh, but regardless, uh, I'm I'm announcing that and I'm making this statement because I know the bullshit is about to happen and I'm trying to make sure my stance is on there. With the thing with tyla, I feel like that's good for her team because I mean, that's her team should be looking at it as a positive, because being set up amongst them, especially as a black artist or artists of color, is a big deal. Like they don't just put artists of color in the pop section like that. Unless you are sold out to the, to the string, like everything about you is sold, every last dime of your publishing is signed to some other white man. It's usually when they'll throw a colored person in pop real shit.
Speaker 1:Usually pop is cold for the white, r&b is cold for black. Yes, so, and even though she's colored, but I'm saying she would fall more into that R&B and that's why they felt like she could win that.
Speaker 2:Okay. So now I want to get into the conversation of. There are some black artists in the R&B genre that lean more a little bit like you could lean them more towards pop, but they have never been considered for that, like sZA, yeah. So why do you think that, like immediately off bat, tyla was able to be put in the pop genre instead of R&B, when genuinely I don't think she makes either, like I don't think she makes pop music and I don't think she makes R&B and I know you didn't listen to the album, but the album is not a R&B album and it's not a pop album.
Speaker 2:That is a African I'm a piano fucking album, bro, like you need to have a completely different sector of if you are going to, because African music, international music in general, is becoming more popular. Pop cannot just be the popular music. There needs to be a different thing that defines pop music, because a bunch of other art, uh, different genres are becoming more popular and if it's just the music, if pop music is just the most popular music, then it's gonna be different sounds, right? If that's the case, then 100% put tyla in pop because she's super popular. And if pop is just what everyone's listening to then yeah, but um, I do think that all of these award shows need to do a better job at having awards for different types of music that fall outside of the American genres of music, and they need to be regular, like awards that are showed on air well to answer your question, why do I feel like she was able to jump to the pop sector?
Speaker 1:I think that she's has qualities and features that are regularly or generally identified with being fetishized by black, by white people. I think she's more able to be consumed by them a lot easier than maybe like a tims or someone like that that may be from over there, because of even though she comes, she does have a tim's album was amazing, on par with tyler's even though she has a brown hue to her.
Speaker 1:She is very small, she's tiny, she speaks almost like an indian girl, like she comes off with qualities that white people would generally associate with the model minority type shit yeah and I think that's why it's easier for her, and I think I think she's also has contracts up to her eyeballs as well.
Speaker 1:I think she's probably sold all of her publishing and everything uh, the same as a lot of artists did back in the day and that's why they have no problem pushing her that way. I think that when you put resistance up, when you don't give 100 percent access to the labels and people in charge, then they're less likely to give you these kind of looks, and I think she's one of those artists now. We're seeing that actually a lot with the female artists, because I think a lot of women are again. Melissa Ford talked about this on the Joe Budden podcast about not being able to negotiate. I think we're seeing that more in real time with women having those issues to negotiate, and that's why women are becoming more popular in media and advertising than we had in the past. It used to be. Women were too expensive when we could get men to sign the shit deals that women were signing.
Speaker 1:And now women are signing the shit deals I mean now men are in some regard resisting, starting their own things that then sell, and the women are still following similar old model traditions.
Speaker 2:Because women are signing the shit deals. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to sign the shit deals, I'm not trying to make it sound like it's exclusively just women like because I just said tommy richmond is probably in a shit deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably so that's what I'm saying, like it's. It's not just it's artists who are more likely to break and people can see a lot more potential into so they're more likely to have a more. You know, strict contract and all that other shit. Somebody who ain't no real know if he gonna win, you might just give him a little fly by night deal where you don't really lose nothing, but if he goes, then you gain a lot. So that's what I'm saying. I just think that's why she was able to do that. She is more palatable for white people in the long run.
Speaker 2:I think tyla is extremely palatable palatable for white people. Um, I'm obsessed, like I cannot stop looking at the, the girl. Like every time I see her pop up, like I have to watch her. Like the tiny, tiny, tiny waist. Like she dances well, she sings fairly well. Like she, she definitely has more vocal training. Like when she gets more experience she's going to be way more, way more of a powerhouse vocally. But I think her whole aesthetic, like I love it and I like watching her. So yeah, she looks like a fucking, she looks like a, like a, like a doll with a tiny waist, like it's absolutely insane so do we have r and beef right now?
Speaker 1:we have to figure this out r and beef yeah, does this consider us r and beef. So john gang's just keeps bothering our our tiktok page. We said we was lit on tiktok but uh, we, we had a video and this is what I understand. So we had a video. You called him bisexual, went that was viral we hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me just. Let me just explain this. We had the video. You called him bisexual. We did another episode, you said he wasn't and then this nigga keep coming back to our page, pissed off and hating and I didn't even say that he was bisexual in a disparaging manner.
Speaker 2:I said that he was bisexual, very excited about it, and I thought it was very hot that he might be. So turns out that he's not.
Speaker 1:Boo, did he delete both of the messages? He didn't delete both of them.
Speaker 2:He deleted the.
Speaker 1:He deleted the second comment that he posted weeks after it went viral so just to kind of set the stage uh we he said a message in there because everybody was like adding him into the post or whatever. He said he wasn't bisexual, whatever.
Speaker 2:That's cool yeah, he was like this is fake our shit goes crazy. It gets close to half a million, so we pin the tweet yeah, because that's what you do with tiktoks that are going viral.
Speaker 1:You pin them on your shit so then this lame ass nigga gonna come back to the tweet because somebody else didn't add it to him and try to call us lame because we pin a tweet talking about oh, that's this the best content they got. Uh, pussy nigga, no, we got 700k, not off your bitch ass. And then you got the nerve to do a video with Tank, looking like the bisexual man she claimed you to be, my nigga. Don't come to our page anymore with that bullshit Until you get your bitch back, respectfully. She in there with a crusty ass. Uk black nigga With the name of Stormzy.
Speaker 1:You let that Dusty ass. Nigga, take your bitch. All the muscles you got, all that country ass shit. You bull wrestling with Tank in the gym Like some old freaky ass niggas and I'm talking about Maggot Looking like that and then you over here trying to come to us on our page. Nigga, do something with your day, get your bitch back. Don't be coming over here talking about what kind of situation we got. Going on over here, big dog, nobody care about them little weak ass muscles ain't nobody care about, because clearly your bitch didn't. She left you with them weak ass muscles. We ain't worried about none of that shit. Nigga. Like, really like, back up. Nigga, you really corny and you really lame. That's why your bitch left you, dog. She with a nigga named stormzy what kind of shit is that?
Speaker 2:she probably not even with that nigga, she's just getting she getting tongue down in broad daylight, nigga.
Speaker 1:She don't give a fuck about you or your feelings.
Speaker 2:Go keep holding that kid bitch nigga she getting digged down by a, by a big, big african man in the uk, while you at home taking care of your child. Because that's your bread and butter, that's what we know you for your child, because that's your bread and butter, that's what we know. You for you, you, her baby daddy. So now you gotta make make content exploiting your child and fucking taking your shirt off with fucking tank in the gym, just just homoerotic as a motherfucker you never beaten allegations you never beaten them allegations, my nigga like at all.
Speaker 2:And then I just think it's like it was literally weeks, weeks. We posted that shit.
Speaker 1:Let me see that shit been on your mind for too long yeah, like I, just I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think that you are aware of how petty and like, how much of like dickheads we are, because we posted that video 724 okay, that was three months ago and then you commented on that video two weeks ago like, oh, y'all still didn't take this down. Are you still thinking about this? Of course we didn't take it down. We're not going to take it down. Like, probably at no now, at this point, we're not going to take it down. But he was like, oh, y'all don't have other content. Yes, we do. We already have surpassed the clip that we posted of you three months ago. Like we've already surpassed that.
Speaker 2:I've talked shit about some other shit that doesn't even have to do with you or Victoria, and we've already surpassed that. I've talked shit about some other shit that doesn't even have to do with you or Victoria, and we've already surpassed that. So we're going to keep that clipped. And then, when your irrelevant ass is irrelevant enough for us to take it down, we're going to take it down. And then you're going to be mad that we did because nobody's thinking about you anymore, because all you did was come in a famous woman. You came into a talented because all you did was come in a famous woman. You came into a talented, you got lucky that the, the sperm, penetrated that specific egg.
Speaker 1:That's all you did, period. Hey, goofy ass nigga, try to get your bitch back. All right, how about that? All right, space updates. Let's get to it oh my god I wasn't. I was really conflicted about this one because I got clips of what happened we don't need to play the clips and I listen back. Let me, let me tell my story to make me sound good, okay okay, I, I was.
Speaker 2:I thought you were gonna play them. I was about to be like, please don't.
Speaker 1:No, let me, let me make, let me grandstand a little bit. Everybody else gets to do it on eight platforms.
Speaker 1:Let me do it okay so I sat there and listened and generally on the space updates, we do try to kind of tend to lead it to more celebrities. So a lot of this shit happened amongst us common folk and I was just sitting here like, hmm, this is some really good shit to play back. But I know all these women are embarrassed by this and there was some other personal stuff going on with some people that was involved. So I felt like if I were gonna bring it up and be chatty patties about it, I'm not gonna double down and put like salt in the wound and play y'all audio, uh, so y'all can listen back to yourself. Act ridiculous, but nonetheless, let's get into it. So when I posted our last space update, literally this other event just like transpired around the same time. So this is about a week, week or two, oh well, no, just a week old. So we're going here and these two girls are going back and forth and essentially the argument goes around having conversations about gentlemen in the back channels in the dms, safe to say, space niggas up big time. All right, space niggas in the dms going crazy.
Speaker 1:And to me what it seemed like it was was just women like sharing notes. You know what I mean. And I feel like the two women involved in this particular situation shared notes but like saw it, and for two different reasons. Like one girl saw thought she was sharing, the other girl was sharing notes with her because she was hating on the fact that buddy was showing him, showing her like some flavor, like some time, you know some motion, and the other girl felt like you was only getting close to me so that we can share notes about this individual and that's kind of where the two heads. But and it was so much name calling, it was so much like just issues going on and it kept happening all day. It was a bunch of women just going back at it and it's a few things that I wanted to ask you, being a woman, and being a woman that's not in the spaces, thank god. Like, where does this feminine beef just arrive from? Is it? Is it always just?
Speaker 2:for negroes. It's just how women are. It's just we naturally have like a competitive spirit between us sometimes, especially when it comes to men. Okay, um, y'all arguing on the internet over a nigga that's the basis of this whole shit. Right? That's fucking crazy regardless. He's a legit nigga, though fuck that. Y'all like basically on the internet yelling at each other over a nigga. Who's sitting back? This nigga? This nigga was sitting back rubbing his feet together, laughing how do you know he wasn't embarrassed?
Speaker 2:no, he, this nigga. This nigga was laughing. He recorded that space. He played that for his friends that never get in the spaces. Look at these two women barking. Look at these two women. This dick is so good that it has these two grown ass, educated women who know how to express themselves, showing they whole black ass booty holes on on the goddamn spaces like that is crazy. If if you could ever argue with a nigga about me, you're never hearing from me. I'm not arguing back and forth with you over who this nigga favorite is at all at all. If I have to argue with you, I'm married. If I even have to say anything to you about this nigga, you're not hearing from me. So past that I just feel like y'all are. Y'all are a little bit crazy for that. And then y'all went on for so long were y'all both intoxicated?
Speaker 1:I was like ain't no way both these bitches not drunk it was early in the morning, it was like nine, ten o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2:Oh my god oh my god, like when I was listening to this was like this happened at like 10 pm. They both off like at least three, four glasses of wine each.
Speaker 1:This was a shot of cappuccino.
Speaker 2:Y'all had this visceral like animosity for each other at 9 am, and this is why the spaces are toxic in general, because it's not normal for you to be having that type of like back and forth with somebody you don't actually know for real in real life. Do they know each other in real life?
Speaker 2:I don't believe so oh my god, just just space, acquaintances this is why I'm glad I'm not in y'all spaces and I get to like, critique and um, give y'all constructive criticism from outside, because that is wild to me. That you are on your phone 9, am you? You didn't even fucking have breakfast, bitch. What, what, why, why would you ever let another person get you outside of your being that much? That is wild. I feel like it's lame for both of y'all to get that upset. I but maybe it's because I have an avoid, avoid, an attachment style I'm gonna bang it on you before I ever, if I'm sober but the crazy thing is it didn't stop there, though.
Speaker 1:More women started to get into it. So apparently there was a space the night before where two of the girls got into it and it got woken up that she had, like confided information. Another girl that was in the space that was at odds as well, kind of like the enemy of my enemy is my friend type shit that is not. And so that end up blowing up into like another space that we had where I was in there with duh please y'all, and when I'm trying to tell you, these girls was going at it about that.
Speaker 1:Like she was like oh yeah, she, because she got mad and she started exposing shit. She was like oh so yeah, all that shit that you said about such and such being ugly and such and such being too good, uh, to be with dating her. Like she was going so crazy, like I'm talking about exposing it to the point where the girl was like I didn't say that to folks faces, I didn't say that to folks' faces, I didn't say that to two people.
Speaker 3:You can't talk to bitches. No, no, no, peep this, peep this.
Speaker 1:She's like I said that to folks' faces. I said that all about. They know what I said about the person's in One of the people's in the room? No, you didn't, and we need to talk about that later got insane in there to the point where another thing that I've learned about the women that is so crazy, no. But another thing I learned about women is like I guess now there's new modern women, instead of saying suck my dick, they saying uh, you want to eat my pussy? Like that's not crazy. That is that women suck my dick.
Speaker 2:That that is. I just feel like or are you women eating pussy? Because that's what I need to know as I don't know where these women are from. But like I'm still selling you this, I'm still telling you to suck my dick. Suck my dick like there's no, like the. Do you? Do you hear the way that bounces? Eat my pussy?
Speaker 3:let me tell you how to exchange rolls off the tongue way to suck my fucking dick like that. This is how it sounds better.
Speaker 1:I'm never gonna stop saying that this is how the exchange went, though the girl called her a piggy like you, a little miss piggy. The girl was like little miss piggy, you wanted to eat my pussy. The girl said yeah, I didn't say you was ugly like she was like yeah, bitch, I eat pussy but like why?
Speaker 2:did this.
Speaker 1:I like that, yeah, I like bitches, but this happened in two different spaces, amongst two different girls, where the the comeback was you wanted to eat my pussy, like. Is that normal female behavior?
Speaker 2:to talk like that wait if, if, she wanted to eat your pussy, but these I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:These are two different women having two separate arguments, talking about eating snatch.
Speaker 2:No, but in these two different women's arguments, did the, the, the receiver, actually want to eat said pussy? Because if it's true in both cases, yeah, I'm gonna get that off like I think I believe so.
Speaker 1:I mean, it wasn't. I'm gonna get that. No one said no, this wasn't the case because that's a position of superiority.
Speaker 2:If I ever was arguing with let me ask you a question. Man with a, with a bitch that wanted to eat my.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you wanted to eat, you wanted to have your face in this and I didn't let you let me ask you a question now, because this is what it feels like. Is like licking the slug part of, like getting into the coat of women, like, is that what you kind of have? Is that why y'all so close-niched and say, all y'all are beautiful because y'all gotta lick the slug to be?
Speaker 2:I never ain't no pussy in my, I'm just asking because, this is what it feels like but also, like you're, not a girl's girl either that's what I was about to say. I used I want to not a girl's girl either. That's what I was about to say. I want to be a girl's girl now. It's just hard because I'm an adult and I can't, like the only women I meet are at work. But like I used to not be a girl's girl, so I don't know what the girl's girl was doing for real.
Speaker 2:Maybe I was eating each other's pussies.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Is that what it means to be, to be a girl's girl? Do you have to have licked the box?
Speaker 2:I kissed the girl.
Speaker 1:Did you like it? It was fine. I'm still friends with her to this day. That's how I think that may be the early part.
Speaker 2:Like that's how they get you in first is you kiss the girl you do. Katie, I didn't make up make out with her, it was a peck no, that's how it starts.
Speaker 1:It starts with the katie perry and the next thing they know my neck, my back, my pussy and my crack. That's how it starts. That's how it goes. See that man, that's what they've been doing. Back in the day during the salem witch trials, when they was out there in the woods doing magic, they was eating each other's pussy. That's exactly what was going on, do?
Speaker 2:you know what I learned. I don't know if this is true, but during the salem wood trials, like during the whole bubonic plague, everything like that was the same, keep going.
Speaker 1:That was the same time I mean that may have been. I don't know if it's the bubonic play. I feel like the bubonic play was before colonialism, but but during.
Speaker 2:Okay, it might have been, but during, like they had sicknesses though there were. There were sicknesses going around right that were being carried by rats and mice and shit like that, and women usually had cats who would fuck up the mice. This is a random ass tiktok that I saw. So then the, the women who had the cats didn't get sick as much and they didn't die, and they were seen as witches when they just had cats. And then I forget who, who else it was, but it was like a, a specific, like religious group, who who washed up a couple times a day, which prevented them from getting sick, and, um, everyone thought that, oh, this was this was Islam.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, islam has always been super clean, yes.
Speaker 2:So their rituals were to wash up a couple times a day and they didn't get sick. So then that religion also was demonized, because they thought that Christians thought that the Islamic people were cursing them with all these sicknesses and stuff, when they they was just washing their hands.
Speaker 1:Washing their ass. They was just washing their asses. Nasty nian, sick motherfuckers, that's really what they are. Um, but no, I just, it's just wild to me to just see what y'all are.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay yeah, um, if you actually wanted to eat my pussy, and then I didn't let you. And now we ops, I'm bringing that up every single chance. I get every single chance. Bitch, you want to eat this box? Like don't, don't let me get that off. Like, please don't let me get that off. I'm gonna get that off every single time, creatively too you don't need to sit on your face.
Speaker 1:You see what happens when you give them suffrage and bank accounts. You just start out here talking about eating pussy in the fucking spaces young. What fucking times are we in?
Speaker 4:my nigga. It's some sick shit, young it's some sick ass shit.
Speaker 2:I really again every time we talk about the spaces. I don't know how y'all do that shit. You just be talking to people, just yelling, yelling on your phone to people, you don't? That's wild.
Speaker 1:Like good people in the spaces, man Shout out to the spaces though man hey Joe stop bringing me up, hold on, Joe, stop bringing me up.
Speaker 2:That is, that shit is wild.
Speaker 1:If you're not going to give me my own segment on the show, on the podcast and like really, break down some shit like why are you just? Saying my name is like he's trying to steal you from me. Oh shit, no, it's day. You can go call jane john for that, john gains for that.
Speaker 1:If you want to buy sexual no, like I really feel like joe might have a burner that he's watching your shit from and he might think that you're just like very, a very dynamic host and he might be like, since he has the rotating thing going on, I feel like he trying to steal you from me I just want to like because see people try to say in the comments when we talk about oh, y'all talk about joe all the time, and now you trigger he talked because, but he's not talking about, he's just saying my name like that's why it's weird to me where it's like why am I like a name that you call jay cole?
Speaker 2:yeah, like he, he just brings you up in like random things, like you're in the back of his mind all the time, like you stay. That's why I posted that shit on our instagram because you do stay in joseph's mind rent free. That's his first name, right? I'm calling him joseph from now on, since he insists on calling you fred. Um, you stay in joseph's mind rent free, I think you know what I think it stems?
Speaker 1:from though it stems from a clip when I clip. By the time we was in spaces together and he tried to say, uh, absurd. And talk f and f for two different people and they were at odds for danny and I was like I'm the same person, yeah you made him feel stupid and I think that's why he he's still upset about it.
Speaker 1:Like I think that's why, because the next time he came to space he's like where's fred? I'm like, why are you like, what? What about me? Strikes you to feel like you have to bring up me in conversation? Like I feel like we're supposed to be the little podcast that no one's watching. Remember, that's what you told, that's what you told me, the little seven view podcast. So well, I appreciate it. Keep hit the like button.
Speaker 2:I know you wanted them. Seven views Joseph.
Speaker 1:Make sure you hit the like button Country ad nigga. All right, just make sure you hit the like button country ad nigga. Uh, all right, so we can go. She didn't want to talk about politics today. I didn't. She's been drained from. Even though you don't have any elective responsibilities, you have no. Stop telling the people that you've told them that.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, stop confirming it just say you told them already.
Speaker 1:I'll be lying on here they know that I just be on here telling flagrant lies, and I've just repeated your lie then okay, it's crazy how you'll just say something, and it's funny because the only reason you brought it up was because you did. You got something wrong that we were talking about what we were talking about the uh, the primaries, and you didn't know the format with the primary. So, to save yourself, you were like, oh, oh, here we go, such and such.
Speaker 1:Now it's like don't break it up just say fickle women are so fickle, yo women are so fickle. Uh well, we can wrap everything up if you don't got anything else we want to get into there's nothing else I mean there is things we could get into. But my little, you see her. She's been tearing up during the show. She's so tired, her tired.
Speaker 2:I can't fucking breathe, hello. And then, because of the fact that I can't breathe, my eyes keep watering because I can't fucking breathe, like all of it, the nasal in the tear ducts, everything is connected. I'm wildly uncomfortable. It feels like there's a boulder in the middle of my face let's get the poor baby out of here.
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