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Lil Durk's Arrested By Feds, Tory Lanez 's Misinformation Campaign, and Tyler, the Creator's Musical Evolution - Talk FNF TV
What happens when a podcast skyrockets to 1.4 million views? We explore this whirlwind journey and the digital age's clip culture that influences public discourse, sparking both support and dissent. Dive into the gritty realities of street life and the music industry, as we unravel themes of violence, loyalty, and survival. We shed light on rapper Lil Durk's legal troubles and question the street code's relevance today, pondering the ethical implications of media misinformation and defamation.
In a world where headlines can mislead, we dissect the portrayal of violence in music and argue for a creative approach like acting, where artists narrate without living their lyrics. Unravel the controversies around Tory Lanez's legal battles and the misinformation campaigns against Megan Thee Stallion, as we critique the reckless spread of false narratives. Our candid discussion includes a reflection on celebrity influence in politics, media bias in election coverage, and the boundaries of comedy, ensuring an unfiltered commentary on the political landscape.
Relationships and societal expectations take center stage as we explore complex dynamics, from Nick Cannon's family legacy to the nuances in Chad Ocho Cinco's relationship. With humor and insight, we analyze Tyler, the Creator's evolving music, examining personal and societal issues through his unique soundscapes. Join us as we reflect on youthful ignorance, Internet memes, the intriguing world of music, and the complex tapestry of culture, media, and politics, promising an episode filled with engaging, informative, and entertaining conversations.
The fact that y'all people are demonizing this man is because he's a big black man talking to a young girl and that's disgusting and problematic, because y'all trying to make any interaction that a man has with a girl sexual in nature like he's a predator. But they went in and they had a collection of documents showing hey, this is her over time trying to spread misinformation. So what they did was, instead of saying like, oh, like Tasha K, you said, you know Cardi B had herpes, instead of saying something like that, they show where there is a track record, where you are in line and working in conjunction with Tory Lanez to create this narrative of misinformation. Yo, rudy, I'm glad the women took your house. I'm so glad the women took your house from Georgia. Rudy Giuliani, everything negative that happens to you you deserve, took your house.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad that women took your house from georgia. Deserve that, rudy giuliani.
Speaker 1:Everything negative that happens to you, you deserve and I I hope you and the rest of your bloodline experience nothing but misfortune like I don't completely understand how y'all can show an individual who has only shown malice, uh greed, uh a destruction for his community, uh for his fellow man, uh a non-value factor, like I don't see how that individual, in any capacity, could deserve your sympathy, empathy, grace, whatever you want to call it your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives this podcast is sponsored by Graffiti Tax Services.
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Speaker 1:That's it hey, man, we got to start this episode off with just a big shout out to us. Man, we talked about this a little bit yeah on the last time. We didn't expect it to jump this big, but shout out to us for our first million view video on any platform.
Speaker 2:One point four million.
Speaker 1:Get like us, respectfully.
Speaker 2:It really feels like crazy. I was at work and we were at like nine, eighty and then I just like I just left. I was like I got to go to the back.
Speaker 7:I can't be here right now.
Speaker 2:I was just on was like I gotta go to the back, I can't be here right now. I was just on my phone. I was just like I can't focus, let me just do some like busy work while I just like refresh and refresh. And then I was doing my busy work and then, uh, rhetoric called me. He was like we hit a million. I was like, oh shit, I forgot, I forgot to refresh. And it was just like I was just sitting there like this is insane, this is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:It felt surreal yeah, I mean, like I said, we deserve it. We've been putting in a lot of work. I didn't expect this to happen so soon in that regard, but I mean we were getting close.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've been doing this for like a year we had episodes like 60, something like we better have a. That happened in the first year. I mean, we've been doing this for like a year.
Speaker 1:We had episodes like 60-something Like we better have a, but for that to happen in the first year, that's I mean, that's dope. A lot of people never do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:So for us to do that, man, big ups to us, man.
Speaker 2:We really knocked it out of the park and it's a video that we're not getting dragged in Like mostly like that feels good too.
Speaker 1:It's more people agreeing with us than not, but there's people who disagree. Yeah, I mean, of course there's going to be always people that disagree, but it's mostly people agreeing, and I'm used to being dragged.
Speaker 2:I thought I was going to be dragged for this take too, but I wasn't dragged as much as I thought I was going to be, so it feels good, no, one of the funny ones is like some of the stitches that people did.
Speaker 1:One dude was like they be having mustaches. Talking about the light skin girl.
Speaker 2:I didn't see any of the stitches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no there's a few people did something like one or two people. Some folks are just doing a grand standing thing. I'm like come on, man, don't try to eat off us.
Speaker 2:Not like that, do better yeah, like people were talking about um, you should have talked about the man instead of a woman and I was was like I was literally talking about Duke Dennis. Like it's a clip. It's in the hashtag.
Speaker 1:But it's so funny, though, with that whole like clip culture, like people really don't have the level of discernment to like ask maybe more thoughtful questions, because they don't like nobody reading the whole thing. They just listen to what that little part says and they react to that. And then they were saying that I was hating on light skinned women.
Speaker 2:I was also hating on dark-skinned men like I was generally just it was all around hate, like, like, it was good old-fashioned hate. It was just a like evenly spread hate, so I didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't reply to any of those comments either, because I was like y'all brains don't work correctly, um no it's just funny that like we started this, like like I said over a year ago now and kind of like it happened kind of way because of the improper improv shit, and then for him to come back today that was today was actually his episode.
Speaker 1:He just did season two it was hot garbage we're probably not even gonna talk about it, but it was trash, um, but no, just the everything full circle and just having this big moment at this time, like I just really see where we're going in the future. Hopefully now we can like put some live uh elements into our show. So we're gonna be working on that but, no, like I just want all you niggas to hate hard yeah, and y'all been doing that we appreciate it y'all really been doing that.
Speaker 2:So let's, let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 1:It was folks hating early with with the one million very early, like immediate hate like as soon. I'm talking about folks we know you want to talk about what?
Speaker 2:what you, you want me to go first, you go first okay, so I posted like the, the little million, like screenshot on my Instagram story, on my personal Instagram story, and this random person that I went to middle school with gonna DM me and ask me oh, did you pay for the views.
Speaker 1:That's hate. I thought she asked you did you get paid for the views?
Speaker 2:No, she asked me if I paid for the views. No, she asked me if I paid for the views that's nasty so I am I. For a split second I thought about not replying, but then I was like no, you have to address this fuckery. So then I immediately replied and I was like, why the fuck would I pay the pay for the views?
Speaker 5:don't piss me off and they still haven't replied like what type of weird shit is that?
Speaker 2:why would you ask me that? And let me tell you. Tell you a quick story about this person. This is the same person that, when I mentioned that I was getting married on my story, sent me the full address with zip code, talking about this is where you can send your invitation. You were never getting an invitation.
Speaker 1:I wasn't even considering, like it wasn't even a thing you weren't even a thought like mental illness is what's going on, oh man no, I mean I had a few too, like I sent something to the group chat. You know a lot of, you know not not too many congratulations. I thought it would be. You know a know a little bit of hate there, I mean it just is what it is Because they're like I should have been with you with that million.
Speaker 2:Well, you're not, because you were lazy and you weren't good enough and you gave up immediately, as soon as your ass was put to the fire. And now it's me.
Speaker 1:Hey man, that's just what kind of comes with it. I mean just being honest to put it in. But we went through a lot, man, because folks don't understand. Like the comments we was getting beforehand, we have folks you know talking about oh, y'all only got such and such subscribers and all that other shit, and it's like now to get this moment and know where our trajectory is headed to. It's like, fuck all y'all hating ass niggas, respectfully, y'all for real, and not respectfully, you know very disrespectfully honestly and for the folks who have been supporting us.
Speaker 1:We want to thank y'all. Uh, none of this happens without that like honestly so we just want to keep that, keep that engagement going, bringing in the questions, coming into twitter spaces, chopping it up with me, uh, and all y'all haters too that be in the little twitter spaces. Fuck y'all little niggas too man shout out.
Speaker 2:shout out to the, the people in the spaces, because they support us a lot. Shout out to some of my friends, especially Shem. Shout out to Shem because he watches every single episode and he supports very consistently. Yeah, and I will always shout him out.
Speaker 1:Shout out EP for management Sign up yes. Legacy, you know appreciate y'all boys for always just tapping in. You know that's real big for us.
Speaker 2:but uh love. You know that's real big for us.
Speaker 1:Love you guys. Let's get to this music here.
Speaker 10:Alright, you know. I ain't just probably trying, all that shit Do I was gonna hear that shit.
Speaker 6:I ain't know what the fuck went over. You know All that gang shit Y'all. We got that shit. Nah, for real though, look, ay, ay.
Speaker 4:Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay Ay Ay. I say who that is on that car. He gon' try to rob her. He won't make it far.
Speaker 1:They know what we pray, they know who we are. I can tell he. Here, he yelling out, I put up the day.
Speaker 10:You all see them all, all these niggas, sleep they off them bars. Rip to a GOAT. I think it was Angel who rolled an impact from visceral anger who opened? Destruction and violence Cause I'm a star All you think you touch is him.
Speaker 11:That's how they want me to come he back right here, though I have two people.
Speaker 9:And it gets real disrespectful. My shooter get paid to blow, fuck around and slide through the O Like I'm from the O.
Speaker 10:Let off 23 to 7, mo. That's how I call for broke. T-roy ain't get shot inside his head, but he ain't make it though they got so many dead niggas.
Speaker 9:Bitch, I don't know who to smoke. I don't know who to smoke, but I'll take Lil' Booter go. I can see him through the smoke Caught his ass, coming out the crib, shot him through the throat, tweaking off the mirrors. I think Lil' Steve coming through the floor.
Speaker 10:He got caught in traffic. Waldo ain't get to finish his status. He on the internet laughing capping. Then got called out of it. Fuck your homie dead. You heard what I said? Fuck Shirai.
Speaker 9:Fuck OD, fuck D-Thang, get fucked, tie your hair. You, you couldn't even get close to. No, you niggas hoes to me.
Speaker 2:Look what happens when Red Rick does the music After that boy.
Speaker 4:Quando, Rondo. I ain't gonna walk out like I'm pussy. No call to cops. We draw the chalk Switch on that Glock. Hit like a foot.
Speaker 7:Hold a 30 shot. Scrap with my ride. Wait till it's dark jump out the booth.
Speaker 4:We screamin', fuckin' 9 to 5, I'm on the block grippin' the toilet. All that the Like. The roof that's thick and boom bam, run down. Chop them heads. That's what it sound like. I know that I love that style lifestyle. Can't go nowhere without that bag and cut my life. Wow, nigga ran up on me. Then we spanked it. I'm talking lies, I'll. We do the dash and I do run. Jump out with that pipe, wow. So tell them, pop my grub. My grandma told me that I'm close to my cash. Get that why I keep the ranch. What I don't think you want no real status. I don't give a fuck about who got beaters by, who got turned to ashes. We steady passing our scratches. Tats on my back, think mistakes. I'm from the bottom of the jacks, we basic. So am I sexy Girl? You ain't more than my best friend. I only trust when I want to be the AI. I ain't got no.
Speaker 12:Young boy, they gon' kill you. You better stop dissin' em. Tell them niggas fuck em. Man. They know that I ain't scared of them. How you talkin' shit when the name died about your cousin, huh Cuadro got no filter and he say that they gon' fuck with him. Clean up on IO. You ain't let that chop. Blow my brother. Let that stick blow. Nigga know that's my smoke. He got me a bitch. That's Indio. That be Yoto. Post it with that stick. Like Indians they want my soul. Post about it.
Speaker 12:Bitch, I got like 30 mil, my mind gone and I'm gon' be rich inside my casket once my time gone. I'm bumpin'. Who's get tucked up with some groupies? Why at my home? Why you drop that wack ass on Pussy bitch. You should've known. My daddy said me leave it on. But I'm like man, fuck them.
Speaker 12:Niggas Used to fuck with Gucci till I seen he like them. Pussy niggas. Mama know I'm R house arrest so they feel like they official. If I kill you then I take your whistle. Girl, I know I don't like you niggas. Fizz wanna lock a nigga up cause he call baby. Now, bitch, don't burn my baby mama up. She richer than your niggas. Every nigga did a feature with your slime mouth to get him Set him up. Then party nigga, feel gold rumble. Know I keep that nine with me. You can act like that. You don't know? Baby with me. 4pf, 4post, 5, want me for the doc? Tell that pussy Cross the line, I don't fucking mind. Tell him free, bye, bye. That's my evil twin. I ain't bouncing on his Tippy toes when he creeping in. He get drug tested but still on dope Prescription came in I be tending with my Baby man.
Speaker 8:Hey, this shit like video. Everything I'm saying To this motherfucker, everything I'm saying to these motherfuckers is all props. This shit is not real. Just in case the police listen, you know what I mean? Oh, they was listening. My niggas. Man don't respond to shit. We're fine. I'm like fuck it. You trippers, go get your gun. They dropping locations. I'm getting it done. Fuck tweeting. We sliding, the feds are coming. They did we. They did Like that, says my brody dad.
Speaker 8:Just get out the fans. You bring up murders With your poli, says I told Von to leave that bitch alone. She post her. Only fans. Catch them at apartments. They be in Cause. That's our only chance. They don't be outside Like you think. They ass be on the ground. Old opps Fucking with my new opps. Old man, that shit, merch. We been through that. That shit like ghost land. My brother D-Tay just got killed and I've been slow since. Bro, we got back on. They ass. I bet they know this and I'm bro. I'm speaking facts. This ain't no diss. Keep the police out. My business. We don't post shit. Trigger happy, I'll be with Zuna. We on 4-6. They like Dirk, his ass the singer. He won't smoke shit. You can bleed whatever you want. I got your 4-6.
Speaker 2:Don't respond to shit you want. I got your folks here. Master class and snitching and dry snitching the the amount of crimes that go unsolved in the us are crazy and they be getting you niggas because y'all be just putting y'all confessions on wax. Y'all be in the booth just screaming, just snitching on yourselves and it's crazy. Y'all are stupid as fucking.
Speaker 1:Y'all belong in jail because you'd be doing the crimes you're now listening to talk f and f tv I'm your host absurd rhetoric and I'm with my lovely and amazing and overly opinionated wife, miss reality. Oh my god, you got a wife that was way more opinionated than what you wanted.
Speaker 2:but wife Miss reality. Oh my God. You got a wife that was way more opinionated than what you wanted, but also 1.4 million baby.
Speaker 1:Got to take the good with the bad, I guess.
Speaker 2:The great with the compromise.
Speaker 1:But no, we got to get into a lot. Man, this is a big week for us, you know, not just with our own personal success, success, but a lot of you guys downfall, so we can get to report on that yeah, there's a lot going on. So now we're going to start.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of like music news that I'm really excited to get into.
Speaker 1:Let's go all right, so we got to get into this is music a little bit adjacent? Um, if you listen to our audio, you heard. The last last song we played was a little Dirk and he's been arrested. I think it was Thursday last week. They picked him up in Florida. He was trying to set up a rendezvous outside of the country.
Speaker 2:He was trying to do like a Diddy thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had two tickets to go out the country.
Speaker 2:It didn't work for Diddy. I don't know why you thought it was going to work for you.
Speaker 1:He got way more money yeah, according to the uh reports that have been going around, he had two uh planes that he was gonna try to go out of that he bought tickets for and then, uh, he had a private jet that he was trying to go to italy.
Speaker 2:He was trying to do a spin.
Speaker 1:Move on the feds, you can't do that yeah, all those countries will bring you back my nigga like everywhere that you picked they have extra extradition laws.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't even pick a place that there that doesn't have any extradition laws, like he's supposed to go to the us.
Speaker 1:He's supposed to go to bali. He's supposed to go to jimmy and russell.
Speaker 2:Russell would have protected you like that's why he's still over there cross-legged. Well, that's not true. He's bald he's.
Speaker 1:That's not true. He's been over back and forth multiple times. What this isn't about, uh russell, this is about dirk. Okay, so dirk gets arrested, uh, and everybody kind of gets into a frenzy. Um, talking about, you know, this is a murder for hire. I read the paperwork that was available. I wasn't able to get the court, you know, the court diamond. They're still sealed, I believe yeah, I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 2:Did do a breakdown on it and um, there wasn't a full indictment when she did a breakdown on it, but she read like the what was available?
Speaker 1:yeah, and and the people have been saying that oh like, yeah, this isn't. He hasn't been indicted yet. The feds like to slow walk it. They want to get you in, get you comfortable, talk with you, try to see how much information, see where your head's at, see if they maybe they can let you go and you go do more crime. You know they want to see where what's going on here. So apparently there's been case that they had a wire tapping. They were tapping his phone.
Speaker 2:So there was a his man's wore a wire.
Speaker 1:OTF Jam is who they said was the person with the wire.
Speaker 2:He did like 14 years and then came out and then was like Dirk, you next, your turn, nigga.
Speaker 1:But apparently they said again this is all rumor, so I don't want to. I want to make sure everyone understands what we're talking about here the rumor is he had his baby mama touch dirt. I don't know if he. I haven't been able to confirm if she had his baby mama touch dirt no dirt.
Speaker 1:Had jam's baby mama touched otf jam the one who's a snitching oh, they were saying that he knew about, because there was even songs where he said some stuff like I know jam talking, but I still keep him around type shit, because I was you still keep him to see what he, who he's talking to. He may not know he was talking to the feds. He may have thought he was talking to other ops and other shit like that. So he was just trying to basically make it seem like that. And they said that he sent some folks that had his baby mama. So again, that's all speculation allegedly.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it's getting kind of nasty and I don't blame that nigga, bro, I'm, I'll be talking to man. Send me to arizona after this and get my little face tattoos off and send me to send me out west I feel like y'all need to snitch more.
Speaker 2:I don't know good, maybe it's because I'm not in the streets, but this whole I've never, from when I was young up until now, I still don't understand the like no snitching code. I feel like if you, if you do the crime, then you, you need to be punished for the crime that you did.
Speaker 1:But when you snitch you get less punishment, so that's maybe not be the best way.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about like other people who know what happened. You need to snitch on the person who did it. No, I mean, I agree with that snitch on the person who did it.
Speaker 1:I'm 100 with that. I'm trying to tell you if the situation happened where niggas used my card and flew overseas and let's get into the murder, the alleged murder for hire hire, uh, and I'll kind of get into that information.
Speaker 1:Uh, but it's alleged murder for hire because, if you're not familiar, a few years ago probably like a year and a half ago I think Quando Rondo was attacked, his vehicle was attacked by some gentlemen who had unsavory thoughts and they shot up his car, killed his cousin, lil Pap. You even hear Dirk use the note that he, you know, uses when he's crying out in pain, and Quando is crying out in pain because he knows that he just lost his cousin, and you see that, and dirt uses that in audio for one of his songs that's fucked up and there's multiple times that he used in the song, so like he used it more than once on the song yeah
Speaker 3:oh, okay, so on the same song, okay, okay, I thought he used him on on multiple songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean this is the kind of thing that we kind of got to get into with this because, like I said, they have. According to them, they're saying he flew with the dude who bought the shy steeze to to la dirk wasn't la when this happened. Uh, they were saying that these are with, again, all the alleged reports, he was in la when this happened. Uh, they have him saying don't use my car, don't use anything that attaches my name to me in text messages. They did that anyway, cause who do you think you're using? Like these niggas aren't black ops. Like these are no military niggas, bro, you got these niggas straight out the hood.
Speaker 2:They don't know how to do nothing. Why didn't you just give these niggas cash? Why did you give them your like? Why did they have access to your like electronic card?
Speaker 1:paper trail.
Speaker 1:My guy like I don't get what the fuck and then also too, they said that his lawyer I read this today that his lawyer said the reason why he bought those tickets were to see if he had any federal charges or anything like that. And I'm like, as a lawyer, you can't figure that out without me buying a plane ticket, like I'm pretty sure that had. Again, I'm no like legal guy, I'm no legal guy, I'm no lawyer myself or anything. But there has to be a more official way that a lawyer can find out if his client has charges.
Speaker 2:But then you kind of go into I was going to say would they even stop you from buying the ticket if you had federal charges? You can still buy the ticket. It's just when you get on the flight that you would be stopped.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think they would stop you from buying it, but I would think yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:it would just be that test.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think would they alert you like, why wouldn't they alert you if they already had a warrant for you?
Speaker 2:yeah, they wouldn't alert you like oh sorry, federal warrant active.
Speaker 1:Turn yourself in like that's not what's gonna happen that's why I just it, like you can just tell, like they're just trying to do this PR campaign to you know, make him look good. And that was one of the things that's funny, cause I wanted to talk about him getting the key to the city and everything and all his little moves he'd been making, cause I was going to say this is what he's trying to protect, he's trying to clean up his image, community, because, like I think he just recently started like uh, one of his uh foundations or whatever, like he really was, and he found religion too.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he did the muslim thing.
Speaker 1:So I mean again I worked in a prison. I know what that muslim shit is.
Speaker 2:Man, that's just a cover you definitely gonna be able to get that shit off in the prison.
Speaker 1:It's usually like two yeah, you're definitely gonna be, og there too yeah, um because and I was gonna say, though, that muslim shit usually only be like two niggas that really read the Quran in the whole group. Like that's what I'm saying. Like you be talking to these niggas and they don't even really be down with the shit for real. That's one of the reasons I'm calling it flu gazey again. I was in prison, man. I worked there. I seen these niggas not know which way was west. They was praying west.
Speaker 2:I to the east, my nigga, how do you even, how do you even do that? Pray to the east like, how do you know which? You look at the sun. Oh, okay, okay, because I know, like you know, how I know, like the comp, like the, it's never, ever smoke weed so it's north, south, east, west.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm mad that took you a minute, no it's north east, south west, like that's how oh, I remember it.
Speaker 2:But like in actual real life, I can't just be like never is that way and ever is that way, like what I can't.
Speaker 1:But no, that's what I'm saying. Like a lot of folks don't even really be knowing it, so a lot of that stuff just be like a secondary gang in the prisons. Anyway, I'm not gonna speak to the free, the free muslims, which y'all be organized as, but that should be just a gang in the prisons, uh. But I think probably out of all this, the most heartbreaking shit that I was seeing was like the public response to it. Like I don't completely understand how y'all can show an individual who has only shown malice, uh greed, uh a destruction for his community, uh for his fellow man, uh a non-value factor. Like I don't see how that individual, in any capacity, could deserve your sympathy, empathy, grace, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1:Like this, as I stated earlier, he had the nigga's pain, him crying for agony for the loss of his cousin who was just there five seconds ago, and you put that on a song to revel in it. That's evil. Like that's you're not. This nigga isn't. Like. I understand when we kind of talk about like growing up in the hood and having an understanding about people's lives and the decisions they make, but there has to be a lot all of the disenfranchisement that leads to the violence and things like that disenfranchisement that leads to the violence and things like that, like we, we definitely acknowledge that.
Speaker 2:But it's a completely different thing to like take someone's like emotional, visceral cries of, like sadness and they just lost their family, and then to put that like all of this shit is weird as fuck to me. I don't listen to this type of music at all and I don't know I feel like I would probably get emotional listening to this.
Speaker 1:Like I listen to the music and I'm not going to act like I don't.
Speaker 7:You do I'm a fan A lot of their music you be bopping to it.
Speaker 1:I've told this story before. I didn't want to become a fan of king von because I knew he was going to die shortly after, like I knew once I seen who he was, what he was about. I was down when he won't listen to his music because I noticed where it's only going to lead to, and it was this and so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Where again, I understand what we just said. There are things that lead up to this, but there's a difference to when you're holding up an organization that is only pushing violence, only pushing the fact that y'all the toughest, roughest niggas in the in the city like at some point there is no more grace for that individual. Like there needs to be a line that once you cross that line, shame is the only thing that comes from it, unless you do the work to build that reputation back up, and I don't think he's even done an ounce of it no, um, did you see that that clip of uh?
Speaker 2:was it wallow? Yeah, I saw that I watched that interview. Yeah, I didn't watch that interview but watching that it was hard to watch that for me. Like it's like a og, literally almost like you could hear him about to cry like begging this man.
Speaker 1:So he was talking about his brother yeah, let it go like.
Speaker 2:This is like I went down this road before and then it, it went. It. It went in one ear and out the other. It fell on deaf ears and then he did a freestyle at the end of it like yeah, I'm gonna get these niggas I mean wallow is over 20, respectfully like that.
Speaker 1:Nigga has talked to mikey williams. He got bammed up um thug, bammed up dirt like he's over, like 25 right.
Speaker 2:So that's what I feel like y'all need to actually start listening to y'all ogs, because wallow has been I mean doing this.
Speaker 1:That's all nice to say, but at like there's some point where you know a murder for hire is wrong, like you don't need an og to tell you that you knew it was wrong while you were setting up.
Speaker 2:That's why you did it under the cover like that's why you know the murder for hire is wrong, but it's just like him telling you to let go of the anger you have and the want for revenge oh, no I respect what that's. Probably that's the part that you need to listen to. Oh for sure I'm.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not talking what I'm. My commentary is saying that you know right from wrong in that level, and the fact that we have this like conversation where we try to blur these lines, when there is like objectively wrong shit right here, like there's no if ands or buts about this, is a problem our community because it's like where wrong can come from trying to exact revenge oh 100, and the fact that we try to act like this is a cultural thing validates the racist shit that people put out, because this is not no cultural.
Speaker 1:This nigga is a bad individual. He's a bad guy, yeah, like he reveled in the deaths of the people that he uh had opposition with not normal, like on a normal, on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:He did that shit to the point where there was other rappers who would ask him to stop, like hey bro you know when I was like bro, yeah, your music hard, but like bringing up the niggas names and shit you don't got to do that yeah, but again it was a focal point of the entire operation they were doing, like that was.
Speaker 1:A part of it was to collect names, like even jam says it in his little freestyle. He had where dirk say go get him, and we just add you know, they rap about what we do, the shooting that we do, like that's what this shit was about to them in a way, and they thought they were invincible at the end of the day how do y'all think y'all invincible because you know why the niggas have been locked up or dead?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna explain why. You know why you, why you think you're invincible, because you only killing niggas. You killing niggas in a horrible part of town and nobody gives a fuck about them. So when you go and get in these altercations and you shoot a nigga that look just like you, a nigga who has the same complexion, same color, in the same block, a block over from you, don't nobody care. Don't nobody care about them, niggas in chicago getting killed. Well, it's just another write it up, another report. Nobody worried about doing no investigation on those people. And they do find a little evidence. Nobody's gonna talk, nobody's gonna be no witness.
Speaker 1:So when you, when you become that now I have money, I have more power, why won't that transition anywhere else? Because y'all niggas are truly cowards, because y'all never do this to nobody else. That don't look like you. No, that's the real thing. Six, nine walked around untouched and he went at dirt and he disrespected Vaughn. So for him again not to look like you and him to operate with impunity for his disrespect just kind of shows where y'all take advantage of the vulnerabilities of our culture. Because you know the nigga is easier to get touched Quanto Rondo, not going to have super duper security around him. So when he in LA trying to get his money, make his moves, he an easy lick yeah, the man who killed trayvon martin is still walking around no problemo, but they, but again it's never do what needs to be done.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't do nothing for the police when they shoot up niggas or do nothing crazy like that. But again, I'm not advocating for that, I'm just saying and at some point y'all not doing anything except exacting your own revenge, pushing your own agenda. And again yeah, the people are just the victims of it.
Speaker 1:And even the people who don't even live in your community, bro. They came to Atlanta with that shit. You remember what was going on when Dirk and Vaughn got arrested back in 2019? Yeah, back at the varsity. There was a shoot at a varsity. A detective came on the stand and said we got video evidence with mr banks with his, with his hand out of the window shooting a gun and for some reason, after dirt, after avon died, it just dropped the case. So now I was thinking about that and I went and looked into like what was the reason why their statement says we have enough evidence to go to trial, but we're choosing not to. They were building more. I think that. And then DJ Academics had this similar thought too. They were giving that to the feds All that evidence, information. We're just giving that so that you can build your case up. Let him not stay outside. Let him think he got away with it.
Speaker 2:Let him rap about it some more, because he's definitely going to do that.
Speaker 1:And then we'll get him on the back end Because they was in for some big shit Overall. I'm just again. I'm not here to revel in another man's failure, but, like my father used to tell me, it's best time to kick a man is when he's down but a little dirt. I don't have any empathy for you, man. Honestly. I want to see you be an example of failure for the future, so that they know not to follow your uh path, because again.
Speaker 2:It's just so many young people right now. There's been so many examples for rappers not to follow and they keep doing that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it just needs to be more and more examples, because we just even had that the kid out here anti the menace he just had uh 20, he just got 20 years. But it was a modified sentence to the where he only has to do like two and a half years in prison. And then he has two and a half years in prison and then he has to do like the other half or like another four or five years like without his Fourth Amendment rights. So he is a waving his entire fourth, so they can search and seizure him whenever they want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't be around that nigga. Yeah at all. You try to do some gangster shit at all nigga, your fucking shit's getting violated.
Speaker 1:So I mean, yeah, it just needs to be more examples of this, honestly and isn't that just probation? Because I was looking at a probation just it is just probation. You have limited fourth amendment rights. So I mean, why would they call it some special whatever?
Speaker 1:I don't know, it got him less time, so whatever but no, I just uh, just with everything, with all this. Just to wrap up, man, just I want the worst for you guys. Honestly I do, I want, I want to put it into all that again. I don't have a problem with people making that kind of music, but when you're really living that like no, I'm going to criticize you, I can watch plenty of movies that have violence in it and guess what the actors do after that movie's done. They do interviews where they talk about themselves as real people and talk about how this is fake and how their characters are bad, like y'all.
Speaker 2:Don't do that why is it like nikki had a whole character, a whole bunch of characters, roman and this and that like why can't y'all just take that route of? This is a character and someone who we all know exists, but you don't have to be doing that shit yourself. You can take inspiration from the, the stuff that's actually going on in these neighborhoods and in the hood and stuff, but you don't actually have to be doing that shit yourself. I feel like it's toxic for us to want these rappers to actually be doing what they're rapping about. I don't need you to be, I don't need that to to be the case. Just paint us the picture, write the story as an artist should, because you're from this community and you want to convey this message. But you don't need to like be in the trenches with your hands dirty doing the shit yourself at all.
Speaker 1:To me like I'd rather you not be I think that was a perfect play, didn't that? Um, tori lanes has been back into the news man. It's been a plethora of misinformation that's just come out over this case, so let me just tell you about just a little situation. I was in right, so I'm chilling doing the space thing and the headline comes out with the you know information that says tory's about to get out, and they post a document. People were really believing that they were going to. He was going to get out, not because of what the document said, what was, because of the headline and it's been just gonna release him like it was just so much misinformation that just kept getting pushed out.
Speaker 1:It was so crazy because in space I read the paperwork and I'm like how do y'all think that this says that he's supposed to get out? Like I don't see it anywhere that says that they're going to let him out. It just says everything's pending and we're thinking about it. But it's just so crazy to see how fast and how much of misinformation has been coming out just around his case. Uh, the biggest one coming out is the fact about his lawyer. So apparently he made this claim months ago uh, yeah, months ago regarding this and they checked it out and nothing came through. It was all uh bs alleging that his lawyer worked with the reasonable doubt cast or the the show reasonable doubt that we watched before, and saying because that show is named after Jay-Z's album and the titles of the episode were names of Jay-Z's songs that she worked with Roc Nation and was conspiring to take him out. Y'all have to be the dumbest motherfuckers ever. I just told you.
Speaker 2:That's what they think happened. No, but like, how would that help?
Speaker 1:happened. No, but what like? How would that help? Because they're trying to say that rock nation was conspiring to take him out. So the lawyer that worked with him talked to desiree you know desiree, to work for rock nation when I was snitching uh, back in the day they were saying they worked together to try to bring down tory tory. You are not that nigga dog and I don't understand why y'all people think he is ain't shit about this nigga anywhere. I was just so perplexed here.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any sense like nothing like the, the fact that he was doing the little like club uh quarantine thing during the quarantine, like that was the. That was the biggest thing that he did as far as like outside of the box, you know, like this nigga, as far as his artistry, literally copy paste, copy paste, copy paste. Right, like he had a formula that worked, but it was basic as fuck it was a copy though it was.
Speaker 2:It was never original music. He had a very good formula where he just like plugged his voice into things that already worked and he manipulated our nostalgia, and that's how he got into our ears and our hearts in the first goddamn place and then there's more to add on to that.
Speaker 1:then they were trying to say that the gun couldn't be retested, like um, or that it couldn't be retested because it was missing. But the entire time they know where the gun is and when they tested it before, it was inconclusive. They weren't able to determine anything from the information on the gun or the DNA left on the gun. So it's just this plethora of information that has kind of turned itself into what's her name? What's her name Milagro, milagro, gaines or Grams?
Speaker 1:I don't know her last name, I just know her first name, milagro grams, has turned into a lawsuit to her, so now she is the new tasha k. Uh, basically, I read a little bit of it before we started the show today, like because there's a whole court document and this is the stuff that I was telling you about. Remember? We were talking about what's going on with our video.
Speaker 1:That clip with uh oh boy, you know, nigga that lost his, lost his chick yeah but they went in and they had a collection of documents showing hey, this is her over time trying to spread misinformation. So what they did was, instead of saying like, oh, like Tasha K, you said you know Cardi B had herpes, instead of saying something like that, they show where there is a track record, where you are in line and working in conjunction with tori lanes to create this narrative of misinformation, even into the court case, where she was like saying information or people. That's why people thought he was gonna win, because she was the main one going out there spreading information, saying oh, because she was in the courtroom and stuff and people were like trusting her as like a trusted source in the courtroom looking a hot mess too.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about looking like melted ice cream in there, like she was looking bad. I think she had a little work done now or she know how to use filters, because her most recent pictures look decent I've never seen her, oh my good if that was the picture that people were posting to her man, bad, bad. And they said it was a video clip too, where she was like tori, that's my brother, and tori just walked right by her, didn't even acknowledge her oh, no but no, so the information that they had in here, they basically were talking about her these are the worst man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is horrible, dangerous for the community especially when you don't look like nothing uh I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's how pick me's usually don't look like nothing.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying in her instance I don't know because that picture was bad that I seen her, but uh, no, they were just talking about the fact that she said that, uh, you know he was going to get out uh things about the gun and the evidence coming out. She like repeatedly called meg a liar, a lying asshole, like they. They had this all detailed. Hold on, let me pull this up because I got this right here I was.
Speaker 2:They had a whole list of like tweets, basically no they had.
Speaker 1:They had the screenshots of the tweets. Going crazy.
Speaker 2:Let me see if I can find this there's another girl that's been getting dragged on twitter for lying all the time with and then the community notes are always like saying that she's lying. Her name is poppy. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1:I think I've seen her before, uh, but the one, the girl, megan, you know, the one who was, uh, doing a lot of reports last time, she was the main one waking it up because she was like bro, like the stuff that y'all are spewing right now is just inconsistent as a motherfucker, like nothing that makes sense. He's not getting that. She basically was going off on niggas but hold on, I'm bringing up the court documents right here and it wasn't. It was a lot of pay. They had a lot of screenshots of her tweets, um, in regards to, like, her just talking about her family.
Speaker 1:But let's see some of the false allegations here, so let me zoom in on this. So this is the main thing I was talking about here. They said the defendant engaged in a year-long campaign of harassment against miss pete. So that is where you get fucked up and you get messed up in, where you can't keep going in and spreading misinformation about the person, because again you can say one thing like even with us, misinformation got us lit like I'm not gonna act like it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a mistake, and then we issued a retraction right after, and then it was done after that, and that's how you're supposed to do it, but y'all niggas like to double down.
Speaker 1:Y'all niggas be wrong and then be wrong. Quadruple down like it don't make no sense. I don't understand this.
Speaker 1:It used to be a time where you just you know, I understood tweet through it, but y'all niggas lied through it Through the entire time Just because y'all know, y'all I'm right, this is wrong, Really wanted to push this misinformation about Roc Nation. And then it's just like oh, y'all sound goofy trying to defend this man that didn't even defend himself. The nigga didn't even go and say if the, if the bitch shot her. Why didn't you just say that?
Speaker 2:why didn't he just say that? Why didn't his defense like fucking beat that into our heads, that that um old girl chelsea, that's her name kelsey kelsey was the one that shot her. Why didn't like? That's what. That's what I would have went with as tori's defense. That would have been my main thing so the biggest one that happened.
Speaker 1:So remember back in june of this year, that deep fake that happened with megan and it was basically her face like she was having sex on the oh, yeah, yeah so this is what happened here.
Speaker 1:This is what they said. On june 8th, the defendant cooper published on her ex account a post that encouraged her followers to watch a deep fake video. A report by news publication Uproxx Milargo encouraged users to check the deep fake video out. Numerous individuals followed her post and create the video, leading people to misinformation. Like that is a defamation in a way, too as well. So like she's really fucked in this, like she's well if they, if they have pages and pages of her tweets.
Speaker 1:And then this too, she's been fucked they said this most recently, october 27 2004, a defendant, cooper, made a false and outlandish claim that the firearm Miss Pete used to shoot Mr Peterson used to shoot Miss Pete had gone missing.
Speaker 1:Defendant Cooper tweeted did not tell y'all that gun was never presented in court and this ain't make no damn sense. They gave a serial number and breeze past it Like first off, who's this original point please? Basically they were saying like that was misinformation because again, they had already knew where the gun was. That was inconclusive, uh, but no, she just like said they said she was guarding and reckless, uh, disregard of the truth, says that the firearm was never presented in court because it was allegedly disappeared. It had not and it was in cadastral lapd the whole time. So basically, like they basically have her set up as an operative and an agent for tori. And again, on this show we try to support, like media and journalism, because we understand that we are also at attack when you're like going at people and people who are relevant and things like this but bitch you, you did you out of line, you out of pocket, you was going too crazy.
Speaker 2:You can't just straight up, just lie over and over and over again like that's not how journalism works and you're not a journalist. If you do that, really point blank period, you're just like you're Perez Hilton.
Speaker 1:No, you're worse because at least Perez, like there was a line of integrity there, like his integrity was there, yeah his integrity back in the day. He wasn't lying he would just tell things that you wasn't. It was taboo to talk about he was lying.
Speaker 2:He wasn't always lying. He was lying too, but he was spring.
Speaker 1:There were lies I think he had a little. I think he did more what jason lee does than what she's doing. She has an outright vendetta, like if you read these documents she's pretty much, she said me paid Kelsey's rent for a year. If that would have been Tori, uh, that would have been a bribe, like she'd just be saying shit on her page, no evidence or anything, and so I think there's defamation might come your way. I think they might have an argument for this. Just everything that I was reading.
Speaker 1:They do yeah, I mean I'm talking about just more than like a credible argument that they're gonna pull pull. I don't know if you got any money. I don't think so, just from what I've seen kind of your operation look like.
Speaker 2:And the fact that Tori ignored her.
Speaker 1:But I think they could definitely make it tough. Yeah, that too I think they could definitely make it tough on her.
Speaker 2:But maybe he did that on purpose.
Speaker 1:Just ignore it and act like that ain't his person.
Speaker 2:Why wouldn? Why wouldn't she know that? How you not gonna get the 411? I don't know. She's out of the loop but it's just crazy.
Speaker 1:Just like the grip the misinformation has on people, like they don't even search for like secondary sources or anything, like I just hearing people talk about it and they're trying to like criticize me and my statements on it. It's like, bro, you're a dumbass, like y'all don't remember nothing that happened in the court case and y'all just want to vilify meg because that's what everybody's telling y'all to do, because that's just the easiest thing to type out and write. So again, I feel bad for megan, the situation. I hope she wins this. This is one of her rare times I'm it's gonna sound like a couple times on this episode I'm gonna be capable for rich people. That's not my favorite thing to do, but this right here I'm. I'm definitely on her side in regards I hope they win this situation both.
Speaker 2:Both parties are rich, so it's just. Marilago is kind of trash too. Oh no, not milagro I thought about. No, I'm saying milagro is trash.
Speaker 1:She is trash like she's. She gives people like us not rich, either she gives us like a bad name, people like us a bad name yeah, like we, we try to keep the media personality, though technically okay, she does lives and stuff like that on youtube okay they named all her shit too, all her social medias, they they had they had your clock.
Speaker 1:It was crazy, but oh for those future. You know journalists out there that want to get in. You know, engage in this kind of content. You know the raciness and all that kind of stuff. You got to have some type of level of integrity, man, and if you don't, you're going to get fucked up there needs to be a line like everything. I think that might be the episode, the line, because everything you just need to know the line of shit are we going to start naming our episodes now?
Speaker 1:because the thing is this though you just always had the opportunity to do that. You just never did it what do you? I don't name the episode I said, you always had an opportunity to do that though okay, like I don't, we just were going with what we were going with but I've told you my episodes. I know I'm saying you can, I'm saying I, you're the one who does the title of the thumbnail. So I'm saying you could have always just put a title on every thumbnail that we did. It's always open for you.
Speaker 2:I try to let black women, um, you know, create and be open and I do the thumbnail, but the thumbnail needs to be the salacious thing that grabs people's attention, so I think it needs to be something else.
Speaker 1:You do the actual like but that that needs to be just a title and that needs to be just as salacious to make people want to click yeah, I don't think I.
Speaker 2:I've always said before that I don't think we're at a point where we can do just like what we're talking about titles Eventually when we get a consistent, like when we once we get to 10,000 on everything, then we'll start doing that, but for right now we need attention grabbers.
Speaker 1:Got to bring you in, All right. So, man, let's get back to our girl, Angel Reese. She did good for us last time. We talked about her too. Yeah, get back on our girl angel reese. She did good for us last time. We talked about her too, so yeah, so, angel reese, uh did a podcast episode with uh shaquille o'neal do we have a clip of um of that?
Speaker 1:I believe I do um, and it's got everybody going up in an uproar, for I think, for what I think is kind of something like minute and it's not really as big of a deal you always think things are not.
Speaker 1:No, it's not because I went and watched it over, Like I went and watched that whole interview over and I just have some things that I'm going to say about it after I play this. Let me get it and find a clip here. But I just think that people are just trying to demonize Shaq and I'm going to explain the reasons why I think they're doing it.
Speaker 14:But again, yeah, but again yeah. He was on a show together with her and bro, imagine you, I'm not imagining. Let me finish. Imagine you're in the same little shirt you had on at the wild and I show duncan not many t-shirts, you're gonna say because you're tripping. Oh, my god, what what?
Speaker 1:the same little shirt you had okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right okay, so let me just give a little context regarding this is at the end of the episode they have been doing. This episode it's probably about an hour was in total about hour nine minutes. That the episode was um, before we get into anything in regards, she was the first person to bring up anything remotely sexual in in the first place. So the reason why I say that is he talks about what would get more people to watch. He's talking about them being able to dunk the ball on each other. She says out of her mouth a woman dunking on another woman would not be attractive to men, so then that already.
Speaker 1:Don't want to see that yeah there's so, but she's already putting the element of attractiveness being an element of the conversation. He never said that. And the fly shit about this whole interview because he was really kicking game to angel and really was being a dope og the whole interview if you get a chance to watch it, uh. But the dope shit about it was he called this was gonna happen. He said that y'all were gonna cut up a piece of this interview and make it sound like I'm saying something weird or being crazy. He was talking about that conversation with her and it was a callback to that conversation and he was telling her if you dunk on another girl and you got the shorts, that got you attention just a few weeks ago from their perspective.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'll let out.
Speaker 1:That's going to get you attention. You don't think people would buy that shirt. How is?
Speaker 2:that being creepy. Because why would she be in those shorts? Because that's what got people's attention last week with her, but that's not what she plays basketball in, so why would she be in those shorts?
Speaker 1:because there's plenty of people who take pictures of things that they don't play in their jerseys and stuff they'll take pictures, but they're talking about the game of basketball.
Speaker 2:No, they weren't he was talking.
Speaker 1:He was just talking about what would make the game more exciting. He said bringing the game of basketball.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, he's not talking about the game more exciting, he said, bringing the course down, the game of basketball.
Speaker 1:Yes, no, he's not talking about the game of basketball. He's saying that dunking would make the game of basketball more exciting. He then went on to say she could sell the shorts. Let me see she could sell shirts with her picture of her in the shorts dunking. He was just adding on a joke to it. He wasn't trying to hit on her. I didn't hear him say shirts.
Speaker 2:He said it at the end.
Speaker 14:That's what I'm saying. None of y'all hearing that. He said it at the end, bro. Imagine you, I'm not imagining. Let me finish. Imagine you in the same little shirt you had on at the Wild N' Out show, Duncan. You know how many t-shirts you're going to sell.
Speaker 1:Because you're tripping. Okay, yeah, turned him into some fucking freak boy. The fact that y'all people are demonizing this man is because he's a big black man talking to a young girl and that shit is disgusting and problematic. Because y'all trying to make any interaction that a man has with a girl uh, sexual in nature, uh, like he's a predator, and it wasn't even like they was talking about sex, like y'all took that out and made it into something that it wasn't and that shit is not cool again. I don't want to act like I'm sitting here caping for rich niggas in this regard, but I understand that's a byproduct that happens to all other black men. So now, anytime you have a conversation with someone, and now it makes the girl uncomfortable, now, oh, okay, you, you're an offender, you're a predator, you're an abuser. You're an abuser, you're a groomer.
Speaker 1:When, in all retrospect, when all the when the context around it shows they were just having a playful conversation. That's what she said she wanted to be. Let's just have a conversation. It's not an interview, shaq, let's just have a conversation. And multiple times she brought up. She asked Shaq his type, she asked him what kind of girls he are into, talked about, uh, jack, hooking him up with a her, with a boyfriend, all of this other playful, uh, sexually charged stuff that you can pull out. Don't nobody criticize her about. You can get into what you said okay.
Speaker 2:So when I I didn't watch the entire interview, but I did watch the clips, like everybody else did and it did, it did give me just like. It made me a little uncomfortable, because you could tell that Angel was a little bit uncomfortable too, and that's what everybody else got from this video. That's what I got from this video as a woman too. Like, um, um, she kept saying, like, okay, okay, okay. At the end I just wanted him to shut, to shut up and stop fucking mentioning it. Like, just, she was obviously uncomfortable, just leave it and go.
Speaker 2:Um, it felt like to me that, like she didn't expect that from him and, regardless of what you say about it, um, she was saying that, like men probably don't want to see women fully dunking and being like physically dominant or whatever, for whatever reason that she was thinking, for whatever reason that she thinks that men don't want to see that, but I don't think that she was saying it in a sexual manner. And then him bringing the shorts that she wore on a completely unsports related platform and bringing it into oh, people would pay to for your picture on a t-shirt of you doing this in these little shorts. Like where to do? Where the fuck do the shorts in my ass come into this at all? Like, just because I said that niggas don't want to see me do things that they can't physically do, because they probably get jealous, doesn't mean that they want to see me do it in with my ass. Cheeks out instead, like you just brought that out because that's what you maybe want to see and that's probably why she felt uncomfortable in the situation.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you why I've I've had.
Speaker 2:I've had situations where, like as a woman, you have to read more into things because that keeps you safer. Like I've had situations where with, with, um, people who were supposed to be men that were closer to me, and I've had to, like, at this point in my life I felt like I probably over read and like overthought the situation. But that is something that you have to do to fucking keep yourself safe. You have to, like, put the boundary up. And she put the boundary up immediately, regardless of what his intention was. She felt, I think she felt like he was being creepy and she immediately put that wall up. It was like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let's move on.
Speaker 1:No, you're projecting on something that you didn't watch. You're projecting feelings that have been taught to you.
Speaker 2:I said, yeah, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 1:I know, but you're projecting feelings that were pushed on you by people like bell hooks, and they have this idea that black men are all your evil devil. So this is not what was going on.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you why I'm going to tell you why that she was doing that. But I just want you to know I've never felt that black men are evil devil, I know that I'm talking about in general, fair and you can.
Speaker 1:And just because you didn't feel like that doesn't mean you said I'm projecting, I know, but just because something didn't feel like that. So the reason why she was embarrassed was because they were joking about her saying she wanted the boyfriend and Shaq said the dude was in there. So the dude that Shaq was saying could be her boyfriend was in the room. So when he started making those comments about she was getting joking about that because he was laughing you could hear him laughing in the back about the shorts. So she was like go get off the topic, because she was kind of thinking she was kind of getting fresh with him, she thought he was kind of cute or whatever. But he didn't say he, if he had, if he was single or not. So that was kind of a running joke throughout the uh the conversation. But I mean, at the end of the day it just comes to my adage always being true, because everyone's assessment about this has been the same and it's like women are children. You as a man can't talk to women sexually because they're children.
Speaker 2:No, don't talk to women sexually at all. No, because they're children, because even if they bring up sex, not because they're children, but just because you should not talk to women sexually point blank period, because you don't know how the fuck they feel.
Speaker 1:Even if they bring up sex before you.
Speaker 2:Even if they do bring up sex before you, even if they bring up a relationship conversation, don't talk to women sexually because they're children.
Speaker 1:They can't handle any kind of conversation don't talk to women sexually, that's what it is women.
Speaker 4:Don't talk to women sexually.
Speaker 1:No, women are children.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it just proves like you there is nothing wrong, worse hills because this is nothing wrong.
Speaker 1:With a 50 year old man talking to a 20 some year old woman, grown, about anything sexual, that's nothing crazy. She's a woman and that's nothing wrong, especially when she's initiated conversations that would lead into a playful conversation like that. No, no accountability on her. Why? Because she's a child in any capacity. So again, man, if you want to avoid being called a creep and having other men be sellouts on you in regards to this, just treat women like children at all times. You should be fine, because, again, they can't handle any kind of harsh conversation at all when to get into these relationship breakups and conversations they had about who uh, nick cannon no, I didn't see any of that all right.
Speaker 1:So, nick cannon, this is like an older interview though, but he was talking about him and mariah carey, and it hit the oh, I did see this.
Speaker 2:He said that uh, mariah basically made him feel like insufficient as a man and that's why he had to go impregnate everybody no, that's not what he necessarily said.
Speaker 1:No, that's what he said. That's what he said she made her she.
Speaker 2:He said she made him feel like less of a man or something like that. Bro, who gives a fuck what nick cannon feels as a man?
Speaker 11:he was here and then hers.
Speaker 1:She's explaining exactly what he did.
Speaker 11:What he did lay up at night thinking like is, is this who I am? Yeah, am I mariah's man? You were yes what my life is supposed to be. There's nothing wrong with it, but I'm like you, fucking right yourself. And then, when you have children, your man shit is like now you're mariah carey's baby daddy I'm carrying a purse, the diaper bag. You know I'm standing on the corner. You know, like she rocking being all the alpha, that well, by the way, she deserves it, I believe she's fucking mariah carey like what the.
Speaker 11:I'm just not that dude. Her and I never had problems. Yeah, never argued, never, even with me struggling in this space. Yeah, she's so understanding and so evolved and lives in her own world. That's the thing when someone has their own world and you got to be a participant in that Mimi's world, you know what I mean Like I mean like I'm main character. It was like muscle atrophy. I'm not being the dude that God put me on this earth to be. The love kept me there. Even, you know, made it work so well, because I was like, oh, you need somebody, you need a support system.
Speaker 11:You need somebody that don't want you for your money. You need somebody that's sincere. You need somebody that's willing to build a family and raise some you know amazing kids together. Family and raise some you know amazing kids together, and that was my goal.
Speaker 1:but then there was just something constantly in me like I got it? The man. I gotta spread my seed, I know I'm gonna be.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna be 100 honest with you.
Speaker 1:There's no man who goes after and accomplishes the things that nick cannon has done with his life that wants to be second place to a woman, like there's nobody who wants that and you don't think you're gonna be second place, but when you're dating like mariah, carey like you're going to be second place
Speaker 1:regardless of what you did like, and it's that's why he left. Yeah, but that's going to be the curse of all of that, like of every woman, of that ilk, is the fact that the type of man that you would feel comfortable with, that would make you feel good, is also gonna be the man that would never want to be second to this, like uh, like a dozen times in at this at this point.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, 100 percent, like that's why I know how you feel about this.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, I'm just talking about it with the conversation ahead, because people were just acting like, oh look how he said he had everything that was perfect and he just walked away with because of his pride. It's like, no, it's not his pride, it's the fact that I mean, you could call it that, but that's the fact that I've worked this hard to be second place to somebody. That sounds stupid. Women do this all the time and y'all get, but y'all do this all the time and y'all get praised for it it's pride on both sides.
Speaker 1:It's pride, I mean, I'm not saying regardless of if it's a man or a woman, it's pride and that's what it is, and I don't know but I mean, even if you can even just take it out of pride, just being like if my responsibilities to your of you still go into the traditional man sector because he still had to protect protect in a particular way to her.
Speaker 1:He had to be somebody who was going to be a uh buffer from her in the world as well, even if her security, like even people who are close to her circle I would expect that that's what she would think your role would be a buffer to even those people. That still takes a lot where it's like I'm doing this but I'm not empowered to do it, no one's it. I don't feel as though my words mean anything after I do these actions. So why would I, why wouldn't I go to every pretty girl I can impregnate her because I'm living the life that I should have been living prior to meeting her. He literally had to contain who he was to be with her.
Speaker 2:I feel like Mariah and Nick, like what I thought that she just wanted, like sperm for some children and that's what she got. And she has twins now and, unfortunately, like they, part of a farm of children.
Speaker 1:It's not unfortunate. There's a whole farm of them.
Speaker 2:Plenty of brothers and sisters if your children have some sort of um don't say that something in the, in the, in the future, where they need like a blood.
Speaker 4:Why would you say?
Speaker 2:that they need. They go have 17 other kids that can donate to them. Why would you say that? And that's the only, that's the only, that's the only benefit you have to have to your, your kids, being part of a farm of children that your baby daddy fucking spread his seed all over the goddamn united states to make there's a lot of other things.
Speaker 1:There could be a collection of athletes, uh, doctors, lawyers there's people that you can create a whole group with y'all all gonna be around the same age, that y'all can build and actually have a real plan in the world against, like y'all. Y'all praise the wayans for that country, ass shit, but now we can't have the can.
Speaker 2:It was all in the same apartment.
Speaker 1:We can't have the cannons okay, it was like, okay, they, they all with the same daddy, if, if, you all got the same daddy.
Speaker 2:They all got the same. Daddy. If you watch their interviews, like them. Growing up together and bouncing off of each other's creativity in the same home is what created what they are now.
Speaker 1:You don't think Nick can get a compound and have them little rugrats running around for it? He should. I'm pretty sure he does. I think this is asinine, that people just don't think that for some reason, like a woman can have a whole bunch of kids and because they're all in the same house with her, she's making the right decision.
Speaker 2:But a nigga has a whole bunch of kids. We do know that all of the women don't even live in the same state no, I'm talking about oh man, but he's rich as fuck. That doesn't mean anything, okay, I'm just saying. You said that they should be on a compound just now. I'm saying that. The Wayans you compared them to the Wayans. I said that the Wayans are successful because they were in the same house. You said that Nick can get them on a compound. I said they should, but they are fucking not.
Speaker 1:So that's a good point. They're not old enough to be creative right now they all little babies.
Speaker 5:Regardless.
Speaker 1:Wait till they're about 10 years old. The Wayans grew up together. Wait till they all about 10 years old or older in the same poor ass little apartment again. I just want to again. I want to talk about that real quick. Why do people feel like that deserves more credit, like why doesn't that?
Speaker 2:get criticized. It doesn't deserve more credit. But you just made the. I'm asking you, I'm asking a completely different question. It doesn't.
Speaker 1:It doesn't give them more credit well, you know that woman, kiki watts or whatever her name is, g lady with a whole bunch of kids. She got like yeah, I think like why doesn't? She okay, let me ask my question yeah why doesn't she get the criticism that nick cannon gets? Just be like, just because all her?
Speaker 2:kids are poor and she's less famous and we care about her less she's not poor we care about her way way way, way, way, way less.
Speaker 1:My question is when she has another baby or she gets pregnant, all that stuff, everybody congratulates her. Also. Why does nobody criticize her from having like 15 kids? When, when?
Speaker 2:she gets pregnant again. The comments that I be seeing are like get off her. How is she still doing it? But there's what the fuck like. Literally people are like please stop having children, but like people are not criticizing her because she's less relevant no, but I've.
Speaker 1:When she gets into the headlines she take that that big-ass family picture and everybody starts talking about her family and stuff like that. This is an example I'll talk about. So I tweeted somebody and said how is this any different between Nick Cannon? And the girl said they're all in the house. And my thing is, if y'all are saying Nick Cannon can't be with all his kids mentally, physically, whatever that bullshit y'all like to put out, how do you think one chick can do that with a bunch of kids just in the house?
Speaker 2:well, it's a mother, so she's usually with all her kids. What? Regardless, that bitch ain't got superpowers. What I'm saying is what you're saying is incorrect, because most of the comments that I see when kiki wyatt has the 15th fucking child with her gaggle of goddamn kids, people be like God damn that's to me not the same criticism as. I don't see anybody encouraging her to have more children or anybody saying that this is a positive thing. People usually be like bitch. Stop, please stop.
Speaker 1:My algorithm is very little criticism like I see more people looking at criticism of her and her gaggle of children. I see people treat her like she was octomom. That's what I see people treating her like. She's just like some wonder to look like some animal in the zoo.
Speaker 2:The only positive, the only positivity that I ever see about kiki wyatt, is her voice. People be like she could blow down, but she needs to stop popping out kids.
Speaker 1:I mean it would probably be wise, but y'all don't get criticism for that. Why would what? What in society would tell her to stop, though? I'm pretty sure every time she get pregnant she get treated like she's a little princess again. Everybody does all this extra stuff for her. She probably got even more kids catering to her. What is stopping her? Her ego is just probably over-assatiated when she's pregnant.
Speaker 2:People be having breeding kinks. Kiki Wyatt has a breeding kink.
Speaker 1:Has she spoken on that? Nick Cannon has a breeding kink. Has she spoken on that?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm putting on their jackets.
Speaker 1:Well, you got to throw allegedly you little liar.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm putting on both day jackets.
Speaker 1:Y'all both got breeding kinks and y'all both need to stop my thing is this nick cannon doesn't have to stop the women should say no when he asked for it.
Speaker 2:That probably be swell oh my god, we've had this conversation already before too.
Speaker 1:We've gone into detail well, I wanted to add a second little part to this, though. Um so, ocho single, you know who chad johnson is yeah, so his.
Speaker 2:Him and his girl recently broke up too as well I didn't see anything other than her saying that they weren't together.
Speaker 1:Yes, she did a tweet and then he did some shit like I would do. He responded with it like a little meme, trying to be funny and from everything I'm seeing that, uh, it looks like they donezo. But uh, cory holcomb had uh some commentary about why he feel like they broke up. He's disgusting he is a little disgusting a little piglet, ain't he but this shit was kind of funny and I kind of agree with him a little bit too.
Speaker 6:When you are the man at home. I don't know who. All are familiar with what happens with Ocho Cinco. But one day his wife called him I mean his fiance called him and say I'm out here on this, don julio, I'll be home in a little bit, get it ready. That is the greatest role reverse I ever saw in my life. Wow, if a bitch called me and say she out on don julio, I'm gonna say well, stay out there, bitch, I didn done already fucked.
Speaker 2:I'm going to sleep. You don't get no bitches.
Speaker 5:To me it doesn't even sound that sexy, because it's like she's basically saying I'm on that, like now, I'll come and get it, give it to you right after I'm through in the streets, this your woman telling you this after.
Speaker 6:I'm through in the streets what she say and she, and she gotta be drunk.
Speaker 5:She gotta be drunk.
Speaker 1:That's a bunch of corny motherfuckers but they end up saying that basically, the main reason he said the red flag was when she started trying to be on Night Cat with Shannon Sharp. I think this is just another situation. Why did we play that clip?
Speaker 2:Because it was talking about Chad Johnson, the thought of your girl going out to brunch with her girls and then being drunk and then y'all having sex after Is that not a normal thing Like? Do niggas not usually think that that's like great? Sex when your girl comes home from brunch with her friends and she you got to like go to the car and pick her up and she's like leaving her friends, like I'm gonna be respect I've seen so many things where niggas be like yeah, but them niggas wasn't raised by their daddies either you know.
Speaker 1:So they, they think some shit like that would be fly, you know. So I'm just saying, man, there's a lot of stuff we, we, we get talked about and gets pushed in our culture that, if you look into the root of it, it's coming from people who may not have everything in their household in order.
Speaker 1:But no, I was just saying I thought it was very interesting because I did, I kind of felt like that too because if you, if you kind of think about where their relationship was at the time, she was kind of having an upward trajectory, right with the real estate and the stuff on the show.
Speaker 2:She only got one season of that show.
Speaker 1:But wasn't she doing good at real estate though?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was. I don't know because the, the netflix real estate shows. We don't know how good they'd be actually doing in real estate, so but the, the show was received kind of well and then we went another season. There wasn't another season and then on the show it looked like they were doing well, the real estate agency was doing well.
Speaker 1:So and if you kind of watch a little bit of the show of nightcap with ocho and shannon, you'll see where he kind of plays around and jokes about this idea of him being like a house husband and stuff, and if you kind of realize what the success of shannon's been having by proxy show, ocho has also been having a lot of success too. I think it's kind of very evident that, in my opinion anyway, it looks like that he was a no longer being the house husband, former athlete she thought she had and he was outside more.
Speaker 2:He probably was doing more that tracks with an opinion, you would have that tracks with an opinion.
Speaker 1:I just think that's what was going on and then now she felt like she couldn't control him the way that she wanted to, because I mean, if you look at it, the way that he's tall, she bought me this, she do. She was kind of slick, tricking on him like he was the you know cheerleader and she was the ex-football player kind of way. That's how he kind of presented it.
Speaker 2:I think that in that way, I know you don't think he was just like on the show joking about shit, like that?
Speaker 1:I think there's truth in jess so I think, there so you think ocho cinco fully had a sugar mama for the most part, I think in a way and I think there was that's an opinion, I think that I don't think she was a sugar mama, I think that. But I think she took the, the lead in a lot of shit and she expected in return him to be 100 available for her. He was like no, I'm fucking.
Speaker 1:Ocho cinco okay it's funny how, like if this was the other way around, you'd be like, yeah, because she a baddie, and yes, but when I say it this way, now, but you're like in.
Speaker 2:I feel like this is the situation where I would be like, yeah, because she a baddie, but I just disagree yeah because, it's niggas I just simply disagree, because it's niggas. Like I don't think, like there's, the only thing that we got from these two actual people was the fact that they weren't together anymore. Past that, like all of the speculation and stuff. Like I have no idea about anything about either of these people. Like I don't follow her, I don't follow him, I don't know either of their personalities.
Speaker 1:I thought you followed her because you watched the show.
Speaker 2:No, I watched. There was one season of the show and then it was canceled and then I never consumed her again. She was just Ocho Cinco's like wife or whatever, like I didn't.
Speaker 1:No, she wanted it the other way. She uh wife or whatever.
Speaker 2:Like I didn't. No, she wanted it the other way, she wanted nobody. Like after the the netflix show was canceled, her like in the public eye I feel like fell back all the way. I never saw her ever again. So the the thought that like she wanted a trophy husband and she wanted to like pull the reins and all that stuff like I just I don't agree with because she disappeared did you well.
Speaker 1:She fully disappeared. You watched the show just yawning. She give you that kind of energy when she was on the show she was the.
Speaker 2:She was the owner of the um, the real estate agency, and she was a manager. Like she gave manager energy, but like she left all the time to be with ocho cinco, like that was a thing, like she wasn't like running her shit because she was in love. So, no, that's not what she gave me from the little bit that I got from her and then that's not. I don't think that that's a thing at all.
Speaker 1:I think that you're just so why do you think they're doing your thing?
Speaker 2:I think that you're just doing your thing. I think that they were breaking up because probably he was cheating.
Speaker 1:See, look at the first thing y'all always go to you love to make niggas look bad.
Speaker 2:You see how I made a whole bunch of thought into it. The women been cheating. The women been cheating. There is no evidence. That's what I'm telling you specifically is all we know is that they're not together anymore. I had good speculation based off of incidences nobody said anything other than we not together anymore, like and I'm, and I'm saying either he cheated, or he or she cheated because, the women been cheating lately and y'all keep doing that.
Speaker 1:Y'all keep breaking these niggas hearts I don't think this would be him, because he was like he was upset, like he did something, because that's where it was, like his head was down or whatever. But I think it was just like he was just like I'm bossed up on you, baby girl, you gotta understand that and she just couldn't yeah like I don't know what happened, but I don't think we can.
Speaker 4:I don't think we have enough evidence to speculate, oh yes we always do like we've speculated with zero evidence.
Speaker 2:I've straight, I've told straight up lies, but I thought that I had evidence. That's my thing, like I thought there was solid evidence and you might think there is, but I just no, I just looking at it.
Speaker 1:When cory said that, I was thinking about all the times I've seen her on the show, stuff I had heard him stories talk about with her and it was always like her with evelyn or what's her name? Evelyn? That's the bitchy head buddy. Uh, my bad, but no, it was um. I think his name started with an s. I forgot her name.
Speaker 8:I just know ocho but I could always tell.
Speaker 1:We don't even know her, but I could always tell the way that he used to talk about her like she wanted to be a lead, a lot of shit.
Speaker 2:I could just get that feeling and I feel like ocho's type of nigga, would you be a leader in a relationship where the general public does not even know your?
Speaker 1:name. That happens a lot with people. What was that girl? That just that white pop star just got married to that little 50 year old fisherman, lana dala ray, or whatever. Who is the fisherman? Some white nigga that she married? Like 50 years old, he's like 20 years older than her, but she's the famous one, yeah, but he running shit over.
Speaker 2:But in this situation chad is way more famous than the his baby mom. She had one netflix show.
Speaker 1:He's an nfl superstar yeah, but you said who is the person running shit that we don't know, and I just exasperated that nigga had her on a fucking yacht, I mean on a fucking pier, getting married, running shit, and you don't know who that nigga is all right, y'all, this is my thing, this is like my favorite, my favorite things to talk about on the show or music.
Speaker 2:So Tyler the Creator one of my favorite artists of like all time dropped the album Chromacopia, so we're gonna go through and, um, I really wanted to do a song by song breakdown but that was going to take too long, so I just pulled out the ones that I thought were like the most interesting and salacious for us to talk about and let's get into it. I generally so I've been living with the album for about two days now. I've listened to it about three and a half to four times in completion, so I feel like I have a good feel of the album's vibe. So, really, really quickly, I just want to play my favorite Well, one of my favorite and everyone's favorite song from the album right now.
Speaker 5:So we're going to play Sticky sticky, sticky, sticky sticky bitch, uh lit ass bitch, step zappy, pop, shit.
Speaker 4:Glass foot Niggas run with their motion. Get the fuck out of here, sneaky link. She say that's her nigga. I don't give a fuck these bitches trying to scrap the foot. I'm looking at you bucking ho.
Speaker 8:Sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky bitch.
Speaker 2:Niggas say I ain't the guy they must be smoking. So yeah, that was one of my like what I wrote up, wrote down about sticky. My favorite part about that song is I love when people jump into tyler's world, like tyler, his production and everything. It's so specific and you can tell when Tyler produced the song and when he produced the album. So Glorilla, sexy Red and Lil Wayne jumping into Tyler's world and me getting to experience that as fans of all three of them actually was like my head almost exploded off. I was so happy Like that song is lit as fuck. So, um, let's get into my.
Speaker 2:I just pulled out a couple songs, so it's not everything, but these are the ones that like touched me in my heart and my ears the best. So we're gonna start with. There's two tracks before this, but Darling, I Darling, I feels like Tyler. You know what I mean. Like it just feels like a Tyler song. It feels like what we all know and love from him. It feels like a consistent um string along all of his career, like he's always had this type of music. There's always been one track at least on every single album that like gave me these feels. It's featuring T-Zo Touchdown.
Speaker 2:Whatever you do, don't ever tell no bitch you love her and his mom is all over this album. If you don't mean it, don't tell us.
Speaker 2:Check Fucking wild, hot shit talking wild hot shit tyler has always done this like kind of high-pitched whispery singing thing. He can't sing for shit, but he's gonna do it. You can pause it, tizo. I wanted to ask, I wanted to ask you, but you don't listen to Tizo that much. But I want to ask y'all is Tizo not one of Tyler's sons?
Speaker 2:Like, after I heard Tizo on Tyler's album I started talking, I started thinking about it a little bit and I was like he's one of Tyler's sons a little bit. Tyler is definitely somebody else's son, don't, let's not get into that, but I think Tizo is one of Tyler's sons, 100%. So the next, um, the next song I wanted to talk about we don't have to play it is hey jane. So hey jane is um. Because of the subject matter and because it like kind of got me a little bit emotional, I wanted to talk about it. So the first verse is tyler talking to seemingly a woman that he got pregnant. Um, and it's his point of view and how he feels you can get a twink pregnant.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I know what he into.
Speaker 2:He does say on the album that he is gay, but he also has multiple songs that are like the subject matter is a woman that he's in love with. So I'm confused. He's bi, I think Tyler's bi, no A, they got us in trouble last time. But he said on the album that he's bi, I think Tyler's bi, no A, they got us in trouble last time.
Speaker 2:But he said on the album that he's gay, so he's a LGBTQIA plus somewhere on that spectrum. We just don't know exactly between where he falls, between fully gay and bisexual, because if you got a woman pregnant not too long ago, it was just a callback, that's all.
Speaker 2:Then you don't have to play the song. I'm not okay. I'm trying to make sure it doesn't die, okay, um? So the second verse is from the woman's perspective and then the whole time I was like did this woman have the baby? Because she said that she has no interest in like having his money, having his clout or whatever. She doesn't like she'll just move back to london and keep the baby because she's 35 years old and she doesn't think that she can have another child, so she doesn't want to abort this baby. But the I um with doing more research. Hey Jane is a platform that provides safe and affordable abortion pills to women. You can order them. So I feel like him naming the song hey Jane. Um, she probably ended up terminating the pregnancy.
Speaker 2:Next song is I Killed you. I was so confused the first time I heard I Killed you. I was like what is this song about? What is this song about? And then I read the lyrics. You have to read the lyrics the song about. And then I read the lyrics. You have to read the lyrics and the song is so blaringly obviously about, um, black people in their natural hair and the struggles that we go through with our natural hair. He was like I, I, um, I burn you, I straighten you, I don't want you on top of my head, I need to be seen professionally, so I don't need to, I don't need you here anymore. And I was so confused I was like what the fuck is this about? It's about natural hair and, um, about, uh, tyler's whole probably, um, ups and downs with his natural hair, and he mentions dark-skinned women and our insecurities with natural hair specifically, and I thought that was funny.
Speaker 2:As soon as I heard that line the third time, I listened and I realized that this song was about natural hair. I, it was a call back to Tina perm, your fucking weave. That was such like. That was a song back in high school. I forget which song it was, but it was an odd future song and Tyler is literally screaming on the track Tina perm, your fucking weave. And then I I remembered in high school thinking that this black man is is literally yelling, insulting this woman about her hair on this track, and he don't even know that he can't perm a weave like you can't do that.
Speaker 2:And there are a lot of Tyler songs that it seems like if you listen to him then and you listen to him. Now he seems like a hypocrite. He seems like a full hypocrite and um, it's hypocrisy versus like. Maturity and growth is a. Is an artist allowed to grow and change his subject matter in the music without seeming like a hypocrite? Because Tyler used to be wildly homophobic, now he's gay. Tyler used to talk about black women's hair, now he's making songs about the complications between your hair and your relationship with your hair as a black person. Like how do you feel about that? Because I saw a lot of people. He had a bar in his song. It's literally rape a pregnant bitch and tell my friends I had a threesome and that tweet, that bar, has been going viral now and people have been talking about like. Are we allowed to just let him grow and like. Let the wild shit he used to say slide, because he used to say wild shit.
Speaker 1:I mean, he did what he had to do to get off that shit. I'm gay. Once you start going for real, once you start saying that.
Speaker 2:It was self-hate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just start pulling that off. I'm just honestly. If I was a conspiracy theorist like right wing nut job, I would say he's doing a humiliation ritual. Theorist like right wing nut job, I would say he's doing a humiliation ritual, like I'm.
Speaker 1:They're making you go through these little triggers and all of these little traumas that you have to, you know, address that you caused other people that's what it seems like now it's like oh, you got to be with the gay white boys and apologize to the black woman, like if I was a conspiracy that you like hot sex with rough and you got and you have to.
Speaker 1:you know, do gay stuff around black men, like men, like if you really wanted to paint it a certain way, this is kind of like the perfect picture for that, whereas like this guy who came in on this aggressive time which I mean, even then, though they kind of try to play it like the white guy that hates himself in a way, like that seems like that's what's always kind of painted around him. He's always tried to like like archetypes for like white people and he just applied to himself in that way. I think it's just weird.
Speaker 1:I've always thought tyler was interesting, like musically yeah, his voice is always his voice always sounded good to me uh into in that regard.
Speaker 2:So I always like going back to it. It's um. It has a lot of character to it, doesn't it? I mean?
Speaker 1:I can say that you can say that it sounds good to.
Speaker 2:It has like a lot of texture to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like his voice and when I never really listened to this thing, every time I hear him he's usually on a more grizzled sound, like it's very deep, like he's trying to no, that's, that's how his voice that's just how he raps, I think. No, there's a lot of texture to his voice.
Speaker 2:It's way better than yadi's, yeah he has like a, not sandpapery, but like it's very distinct though yeah it's. It's rougher than it's like rough and smooth, I don't know how to explain it. So Thought I Was Dead was the next track I wanted to mention, only because Schoolboy Q's flow is immaculate. Okay, niggas, thought I Was Dead is the next song that I wanted to get into, so you can go ahead and play it.
Speaker 4:But I must leave one way in the hills where they can't see. Swear by 20 m 2018 like a play for the bills going no deep. Niggas tend to get rich and they act. Weird how you walking at the party with your butt pierced. Should I run the plate clock to the check clear niggas turn 35. Now they out here. Nigga rose on the right trying to program.
Speaker 8:I was really outside with the dope man now.
Speaker 12:I really got ems nigga. No chance, I don't want to what?
Speaker 2:oh my god I just wanted to mention this song I just wanted to mention this song because school boys flow on this. He was sliding on this shit period and that's all I wanted to say about that. And then Balloon. Balloon by Dochi okay, let me. Balloon is the next track that I wanted to get into, and everyone was like absolutely losing their shit over Dochi's verse on this and I feel bad that I'm kind of like playing a bunch of like featuring verses, but I do want to get into that a little bit too. But play it. Play that shit, don't stop.
Speaker 4:What Huh?
Speaker 12:I'm so glad I'm a private private, I don't know what it is yet.
Speaker 5:If he is gay, then I am gay and we are now Me and Tyler finna, take your bitch down. I'm a private private. I don't need you, cause I already fucked me. I don't need a race. I don't need a plane, cause the airport floor. I don't need a passport, cause the airport floor. Don't stop, I don't need a passport, I'm a swamp bitch. Don't stop. Don't stop, don't stop.
Speaker 2:Don't she have one of the? Don't she have one of the best verses On that shit point blank period. And then we skipped, like him, because that is the song that I Wanted to get into the most we're not gonna get into. We're not gonna play it, because the song that I wanted to get into the most we're not going to get into, we're not going to play it, because the part that is the most significant is the end, where his mother. Let me just fill you in really quickly.
Speaker 2:Tyler the creator has had a long contentious relationship with his father in his music. From the start of him making music, he's been fuck my dad, fuck my dad. He wasn't there for me. There's been a lot of anger towards his dad and then it's transformed into like resentment towards his dad in his music and as a fan of tyler the creator, you can, you can see like all of his emotions towards, like the lack of relationship with his father and his music. It was blaringly apparent, right.
Speaker 2:So, like him, he puts out this song and in the song, in the beginning, his mom is like you look just like your dad. Like you got long ass arms like your dad, long ass legs like your dad. You tall like your dad, like you got long ass arms like your dad, long ass legs like your dad. You tall like your dad. You got flat feet like your dad. And then at the end sounds like it says you got a big dick like your dad. But he bleeped that out. I don't know what she said, but that's weird. That's a little weird. If you said that I don't like that part, you could have left that out.
Speaker 2:Your girl made a joke like that too on her stand-up, the one who played ava on, uh, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, she did say, but she oh here. She said that, no, but she said that it was just weird that he went from having like a little boy dick that I used to wipe to having a big man dick now. Like of course he was gonna. No, but like it's just why, like it's just weird.
Speaker 2:It's just weird to, it's not weird it's very interesting for her to come in at the end of the song again and be like I'm the reason that you don't have a relationship with your father. Um, your father really wanted a relationship with you. He tried actively. I was bitter, it was my fault, I apologize and I take responsibility and accountability for the fact that you don't have a relationship with your father. And in the song Tyler is like am I like him? Do I look like him? Do I act like him? I'm never gonna know.
Speaker 2:And I was angry. I was angry when I was listening to her say that, not the first time, a little bit the second time, but the third time I was fully furious. Like how are you just apologizing nonchalantly for me not having a relationship with my whole ass father because you were immature? You were too immature to put your feelings aside and let him be in my life the way he was trying to be? How does your immaturity and lack or in in your bitterness get in the way of you knowing that your child needs a father?
Speaker 1:well in situations like that that is wild, it's not really because you, you don't you've never been in a situation because, what you're not putting is in that situation.
Speaker 1:They. You don't have a lot of power, so the only thing that you have power of is the child. So that's the only thing. You'll try to gain control, especially if you're poor and you don't have like resources and shit like that. You're going to be, you're going to try to find your strength somewhere and sometimes you find your strength adverse to other people my thing is, though why is your strength priority over your child's well-being? Because we don't know if it affected his well-being.
Speaker 2:May affect him mentally, but no I say well be, I'm talking about what you can see it just got me so angry and then I thought about obviously this is probably something that Tyler and his mother have discussed, went through on their own and then, probably like after the fact, asked her to record her saying these things and put it on the album. After Tyler put something this emotional and personal on his album, sharing this with us through his artistry, I was like you and gerard belong together. You do, you and gerard are literally two peas in a fucking pod. Y'all did. You could say that gerard's version was a little bit more jarring it definitely saw the people there.
Speaker 1:That's the reason why that's the reason why.
Speaker 2:But the the you don't even know that's his mom, the medium that he chose was way more jarring to us than the medium that tyler chose, but they are still two peas in a pod and y'all belong together.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was just the art and now I just want gerard and tyler to be together, and I wanted asap and rihanna to be together since I was in like high school and then I finally got that. So I feel like I'm gonna eventually get gerard and tyler being together and then y'all are gonna adopt a little black boy and then y'all are gonna raise a little black like artist you don't even know who's the top between them two I don't care they do, though you don't think they just want to be backdoored.
Speaker 1:That's not something that just a nigga who's a top wants to happen?
Speaker 2:I would. I would. In gerard's um docuseries it seemed like he was the one definitely topping niggas, but in how you think he was letting them niggas, them little boys, bend them over he was topping them oh, topping them.
Speaker 1:Okay, I thought you meant like sucking their dicks no topping, would I get what you now okay?
Speaker 2:I just thought so in, but in like, uh, knowing tyler and like not knowing tyler. Knowing tyler's personality is a fan and knowing Gerard's personality is a fan. I feel like Gerard would be the bottom in that situation.
Speaker 1:But he'll be acquiescing for it, though that's not something he naturally would go to we know yeah that's what he's acquiescing to it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I'm answering your question.
Speaker 1:I'm saying is we don't, we don't? I don't think neither one of them want to be a backdoor bandit.
Speaker 2:I think they would just bring a white boy in, and then that would be their hope, that would be their whole, that they would share all righty. So Tyler's album, um, I feel like I have to live with it a little bit more, but in general I enjoy it. Um, when I was, when I was listening to Rory Amal, rory mentioned that this album was kind of like all over the place sonically. I was like I was listening because I I watched their podcast before I listened to the album and I was listening to the album trying to listen for the the disorganization between the tracks and it was a little bit all over the place.
Speaker 3:But, like Tyler, is always all over the place sonically so it didn't.
Speaker 2:It didn't feel outside of the norm for like what I would get from a Tyler a Tyler the creator album in general. Um, he's someone who is highly creative and he gets inspiration from a bunch of different things. He had a concert in Atlanta last night that I should have been at, but I saw the tickets, I saw the ticket link way too late, but I saw videos from that concert and he mentioned that he's been spending a lot of time in Atlanta, he loves being in Atlanta and that during recording this album he got a lot of inspiration from Southern rappers and then also like HBCU bands, which you can hear from the drums and the horns on this album. So I think I saw that before my second and a half listen and I was listening for that and it was like very apparent. He also tweeted a giant essay of where his favorite spots in the albums in the album was as far as like chord progressions and things of that nature, and the list was so long.
Speaker 2:And now I have to go back and I have to listen to Tyler's favorite parts of the album and it makes me so happy that he shared that and I get to go back and I get to listen kind of with his ear, because I don't have Tyler's ear at all. I've never, I will never have Tyler's ear, but it's really fun that I'm gonna be able to go back and listen to the songs with his ear and he's such a like. He's such an artist that's like so in love with music that it makes you love his music more because he's so passionate about it. I love him so much and that's that's all I have to say about that. I'm going to listen to it 17 more times and I'm going to have even more like well thought out opinion about all of the subjects on this album subjects on this album.
Speaker 5:I love getting a new insight into where Tyler is mentally now um in his life, and I love seeing him mature from 2010 when I started listening to him till now, I don't. I don't think I like that. Can I go back? Can I go back please? This is live. This is live. This is live. They said I got too nervous. Who?
Speaker 1:is that I don at the third uh, the third party presidential convention. It just fucked up to see what the third party gets, man. They get treated like crap. Man, that's what you get for the national anthem, shawty, who can't even remember the words also like she was doing way too much.
Speaker 2:She was trying to do too much she's trying to make her a moment. She was trying to make her moment she, she, she went above what she had talent wise she was trying to make her a moment.
Speaker 1:She was trying to make her moment. She, she, she went above what she had.
Speaker 2:Talent, wise, she was trying to steal the moment from dr, dr jill stein.
Speaker 1:Oh, so that was like dr, yeah, dr stein, excuse me, oh, god damn.
Speaker 2:You could have just got like somebody who was like a professional singer, but not famous at all they can't afford that, not, they can't afford that. Not famous at all, like somebody from like a church choir.
Speaker 1:Kamala can get Beyonce. The third party can't Church choir.
Speaker 2:Okay, church choir. They can't Church choir.
Speaker 1:You know how much kids are. That's expensive. You got to have insurance for all them kids, no.
Speaker 2:One person from the church choir this is not for one kid One singer from the on Martin Luther King Avenue. That's all you need for it.
Speaker 1:Her parents are voting red.
Speaker 2:You can give her $600.
Speaker 1:But her parents are voting blue or red, though they definitely voting. They're not voting green, you ain't going to be that, fortunate, the most talented kid parents also vote green. Never that. But no, I just thought that was funny.
Speaker 2:That was horrible.
Speaker 11:Some of our political conversations.
Speaker 2:She's like conversations. Hey, does that? Oh, like why she pronounce all those words like that that's all she knows, that was hilarious. That was a good palate cleanser that's what I do, man.
Speaker 1:I'm a pod god out here, but uh, I want to get into this. So la times and and Washington Post both did not endorse any talent.
Speaker 2:Candidate yeah.
Speaker 1:Any candidate this upcoming election.
Speaker 2:You were trying to do talent and yeah, I don't know Talent and candidate.
Speaker 4:You said candidate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard what was going on. But the Washington Post also lost 200K subscribers since that announcement In the LA Times too right.
Speaker 1:I don't know how many they were. I haven't seen Washington Post have that number, but I'm pretty sure there was a similar effect. So a lot of people were confused by this, of why newspapers and stuff like that would endorse a candidate.
Speaker 2:You would think that newspapers historically should not endorse any candidates and stay unbiased and just report the facts on both sides the whole time but actually, historically, it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1:They've actually been doing this since, like the early, early elections it's like decades talk about like washington and fucking thomas jefferson and shit washington did not want this himself but it to me that's all part of the game, like you kind of.
Speaker 1:You kind of have to do that with this kind of press. Especially the fact that they're not doing it now is weird to me because of how historically it's been. But then again you also got to take into consideration we don't have people who are journalists running these businesses anymore, like these guys aren't folks who've been in the industry for is jeff bezos? So of course jeff bezos not gonna want his product to endorse somebody that either would make it look like he's supporting one of them or not himself and not just the the washington post, uh, and it just gives him the leeway to operate the way he needs to, moving forward. Like I'm not gonna pick a side, because whatever side wins I want to make sure I take advantage of. So I mean, I just thought that was really interesting and I think it was important that we wake that portion up because, like I said, a lot of people just look at that like it's like a scam, like why, why would you be doing that?
Speaker 2:newspapers what you looking at so al jazeera reported um on this and I do like al jazeera as a a news source because they're they usually are non-biased and they they're not based in the us. So, um, they said, decisions by the billionaire owners of two leading newspapers to end their long-standing practice of endorsing the democratic presidential candidate have prompted backlash before um, backlash days before a neck and neck united states president presidential election. Um, the owners of the washington post and los angeles times blocked moves by their staff for newspapers to buy Democratic Kamala Harris against Republican runner Donald Trump. So both of these papers and their editors and things of that nature wanted to endorse Kamala Harris, but they were blocked from doing so. I wonder, if they were going to back Donald Trump, would they have still been blocked? Would Jeff Bezos have blocked the Washington Post from backing Trump? They said.
Speaker 2:The Washington Post specifically said that the decision was taken to safeguard independent reporting. Safeguard independent reporting, he said, and quote our job as the newspaper of the capital city of the most important country in the world is to be independent and that is what we will be, beso said. If that is the actual case, then maybe there is like something to be said about. Maybe newspapers should not back anybody at all, generally I mean, but they also should be owned by billionaires, who the journalists should be doing investigations about?
Speaker 1:But also yes, like I think that should probably be more woken up than anything else because, like, the fact that he even owns that company keeps so much shit from him being exposed, like I've heard plenty of times where they've tried to bring stories to their editors about Amazon and stuff and they were just like no, that's not going to happen. We can't put that out.
Speaker 2:So the the owner, patrick Soon-Cheung, a biotech tycoon and owner of the LA Times, overruled the paper. The paper's editor's decision to endorse Harris saying, quote the process was to decide, colon, how do we actually best inform our readers while leaving it to them how to make the final decision? So I don't know. I just feel like it's very easy for them to come after the fact and say that we made the decision not to let our papers endorse the democratic candidate because papers shouldn't endorse these people in our readers. We should just provide our readers with the information to make the informed decision on their own. But it's, it's just, it's a little fishy for y'all to be doing that for the first time now and then yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause it's just had this shit in like 18, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you he's. He never cared. He's backed presidential candidates before. So the the change of heart is like where does this come from? I want to know specifically why you made the change.
Speaker 1:We can actually get into this and then we can talk about the trump rally. So I read this article from the national the nation, uh, earlier today they're talking about trump's secret plan to win the office.
Speaker 1:So they said this. So this would. That would be a neat trick, and they were talking about him using, I think it was like the 12th amendment, and in the 12th amendment, basically, if the isn't a majority for the vote, the house of representatives can come in and actually vote on who will be the next president. And the house is heavily republican right now. So this is what they said. Uh, the journalist was like that would be a neat, a neat trick for trump.
Speaker 1:But I don't think the republicans plan even require them to get a contingent election where the house chooses the president. I think the plan is to steal the electoral college outright by getting states trump loses to refuse to certify the results of their election. That's because the 12th amendment provides the president the person who wins the majority, uh, the whole number of the electors appointed. That whole number is supposed to be 538, but one potential reading of the amendment is that trump doesn't have to win 270 electoral votes, but but just a majority, one second, just a majority of however many electors show up. Trump goal, I believe, is to decrease the number of electors appointed until he wins. So what people are trying to say is basically he's trying to hijack through the systems, a way to win the electoral college, basically having those governors and stuff of those states that are Republican, but he wins, hold off and they don't certify the vote to keep it long enough for him to win.
Speaker 2:So I mean again nazi level shit and it kind of just comes to fruition in the trump rally itself it's scary to see how, like if somebody is slightly, like, determined enough to steal the election, that there are ways that they would be able to do so. No, you can definitely have you been seeing, like all of the different states, that, like, ballot boxes have been burned in and hundreds of ballots have been burned. And then how do y'all, how do you even inform those people that their ballots were burned?
Speaker 2:and to re-vote for the same person. You can't, you have to.
Speaker 1:But that's what they want to do.
Speaker 2:You have to, like the best way, let the public know. And then if you know that you turned your ballot into that specific ballot box on that street, then to let them know. Ballot into that specific ballot box on that street than to let them know. And but, like, after they count the votes, see if your vote isn't there so you can re-put in your. There's no way to fucking like.
Speaker 1:That's the point of doing that. This is why you have individuals that'll do that, because they want to put some uh, they want to make it vague, they want to make it so that it's not a clear when oh, look at this happen, look what that happened yeah, because they don't want that's scary I mean they? They don't want a fair election for a lot of these people. People are scared that either elections already rigged or people are going to rig it, so they're trying to fight back.
Speaker 2:And there's also some people just doing it because they just want attention and they just want to act out um it's scary because I feel like, as american people, we thought that our system was foolproof, that we voted the person that we wanted in and there was no way for anybody to manipulate their way into the office. Can maybe try to manipulate your way into office by creating this like cloud of, like mystery and like um, I don't know what's the word I'm looking for yeah, they just want to make it.
Speaker 2:They want to make it as disinformation yeah, disinformation around the actual election and to make people feel like there is more fraud around it than there actually is in real life, and that's just really fucking scary, like after watching civil war and stuff like that. Like these things can actually happen. And Donald Trump is making a specific group of people like way louder than they used to be and they have more, they have bigger balls now and they have like a microphone.
Speaker 7:A lot going on Like. I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico. Okay, all right. Okay, we're getting there Again. Normally, I don't follow the national anthem. Everybody, heck. Yeah, it's a cool black guy with a thing on his head. What the hell is that? A lampshade? Look at this guy. Oh, my goodness. Wow, I'm just kidding. That's one of my buddies. He had a halloween party last night. We had fun. We carved watermelons together.
Speaker 1:It was awesome so that was tony hinchcliffe. Uh, famously of kill tony. It's a comedy series that goes on youtube where they do like, basically like reality tv, stand-up comedy, where people come up and react and again you can clearly see him and a lot of people that ilk the joe rogans and all that. They're all part of this trump campaign this new york rally was extremely violent.
Speaker 2:It was like jarring to watch. It was just a bunch of like white men yelling about how the enemy is from within and we need to um, we need to like snuff them out and stuff like that it was. It was scary and in like the complete opposite side of the coin, kamala harris's rally was very peaceful and people were just talking about how we need to come together well, hold on, let's let's, let's do half and half, because we got there's some criticism.
Speaker 1:I got for for her as well, but uh, that shit was a clan rally okay, but let's talk about that specific clip. The first one.
Speaker 2:Yes. So Tony, whatever the fuck his last name is calls Puerto Rico a pile of trash All of the Puerto Rican, because I was trying to look up that Puerto Rican artist's name that backed Trump up and went on the rally, went on stage with him a couple months ago but I can't find his name. But after that clip came out, he renounced his support for Trump and then Bad Bunny shared to his like five to seven I don't 4.5 million, I think followers and he's from puerto rico, um kamala harris's plan for puerto rico specifically. So you can tell that like this joke and hiring this comedian specifically was a liability for donald trump. I saw a lot of people because he's a comedian that a lot of people like and they were mad that he was at the trump rally and everything at the uh and they said that he made this joke specifically and he's part of the like joe rogan camp.
Speaker 2:So they were trying to say that after trump went on joe rogan's podcast and joe rogan was obviously not too impressed with him that joe rogan planted this guy to go do the trump rally, to do this joke, to specifically get people, get puerto rican people to not vote for him, so that trump could win. I feel like y'all are giving him a lot of.
Speaker 15:It would behoove him to hire a few great comics to just tour with him and just write one-liners about all these different fucking people. I mean, if he could remember them. I mean, I know he likes to go off his own head. But if he could remember a few Hinchcliffe bangers if he hires Hinchcliffe to take him on the road Do? You know, know, fucking insane. That would be. Yeah, dude hinchcliffe writing bangers for trump to shit on people. Trump is smart.
Speaker 1:He would hire shane and tony hinchcliffe to write it was just joe rogan actually talking about that idea and potentially him maybe having something to do with tony being part of the campaign, so people thought that that was actually a thing yeah, no, the thing is this like the way.
Speaker 2:There's validity to that.
Speaker 5:No, I feel like tony tony is.
Speaker 1:He's the kind of dude that he lives for. Something like that, I think. I think, in his stupid way, he thought he was doing something good for trump. And I think, besides the you know the republicans who don't have any self-respect for themselves, I think there's a lot of people that's going to change and, you know, go go a different way.
Speaker 2:I have two questions for you before you continue really quickly. Do you know Heathcliff's content? Yeah, I watched Kill Tony. Does he usually do like fuck these brown people? Type of content?
Speaker 1:So let me give you an example of some of the content. This is at Tom Brady's roast. Okay, Kevin.
Speaker 7:Tom is afraid of the Giants, which is why Kevin Hart is hosting tonight. All night he's been using the stool that Aaron Hernandez kicked out from under himself. Kevin is so small that when his ancestors picked cotton, they called it deadlifting. Tom Brady is a patriot, which is surprising considering he looks like a Confederate fag. Clearly your ex-wife takes after you. I hear she's out there draining balls right now. People love you, tom. You have the same fan base as Kyle.
Speaker 7:Rittenhouse. Gronk, I'm happy you could take a break from writing Santa letters to be here today. I knew you were here when we were all out of chocolate milk. Backstage you look like the final boss in George Floyd, the video game. Jeff is so Jewish he only watches football for the coin toss. Nikki has such a bad eating disorder. The industry keeps shoving her down our throat.
Speaker 2:He's just blasphemous in general.
Speaker 7:You might recognize him on broadcast appearances, specials and winning the triple crown at Churchill Downs. You might recognize Kevin as the jockey that rode her. And that's Churchill Downs, the racetrack. Not to be confused with what Jeff Ross looks like when he smokes a cigar. Sam Jay, an obese African-American lesbian. So by having here Netflix checked off a lot of boxes. Andrew Schultz, I'm glad you took a break from watching YouTube videos on how to dap up black dudes correctly. Schultz's mom is a professional ballroom dancer which means she's a stripper that talks too much.
Speaker 7:Bert Kreischer is a king. He looks like if the Tiger King and the Liver King only ate Burger King and had a liver. That looked like Martin Luther King got beat up by Rodney King. And how about the appearance from the great Ron Burgundy huh A whale's vagina, which reminds me Kim Kardashian's here? She's had a lot of black men celebrate in her end zone. Kim, word of advice, close your legs. You have more public beef than kendrick and drake. Thank you, guys. And she was there I'm yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I remember her being there and like trying to smile and do her kim thing, okay. So this is a guy who has just like equal smoke for everybody. He doesn't. It doesn't seem like he has specific hate towards any group. He's just, he's just gonna take yeah, I mean easiest road down.
Speaker 1:The funniest joke I think the what has to just be said is this isn't a place for comedy, though, like a political rally, but he and I know I'm saying the thing is like comedian yeah even if you hire the comedian, you got to have some type of decorum. Even when, uh, george lopez uh goes up there, he's not going over there saying crazy shit, he's making jokes about mexicans like at some point we gotta again comes back to the line. We have to have a line for this shit where that's not appropriate here.
Speaker 2:No, not at all. But, like when it's a Trump rally, like do we? They obviously are not trying to stay within the parameters of what a politician would actually do, because Trump is not a politician of what a politician would actually do, because Trump is not a politician, he's a showman.
Speaker 3:October 7 was Israel's darkest hour. They are our best friend. I worked for Ronald Reagan for eight years. Ronald Reagan said we have to be there for Israel always, because they are always there for us. Hamas is not there for us. Iran is not there for us. They want to kill us. And the Palestinians are taught to kill us at two years old. They won't let a Palestinian in Jordan. They won't let a Palestinian in Egypt, in jordan. They won't let a palestinian in egypt.
Speaker 2:And harris wants to bring them to you did we fact check that, like our palestinian people, not allowed?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I don't take a risk with that's from the apartheid and shit, though not because like that's not from anything, that's like that oh so it's just racist shit.
Speaker 2:yeah, okay, okay, yo.
Speaker 1:Rudy, I'm glad the women took your house. I'm so glad the women took your house from Georgia. I don't know how they're going to cover the fees and the taxes, but I'm glad they took that shit. We deserve that.
Speaker 2:Rudy Giuliani, everything negative that happens to you you deserve, and I hope you and the rest of your bloodline experience nothing but misfortune for the rest of the Giuliani name.
Speaker 1:Yo, my nigga, you are just such a trash dude, yo Like it doesn't wasn't. Didn't he get caught on the Bullrat show? Like, remember that Sasha Barricone caught him with his pants down? You don't remember that? No, no.
Speaker 2:I don't remember that.
Speaker 1:No, sasha Barricone caught him with his pants down. You don't remember that? No, no, I don't remember that. No, sasha barricone, he, he had rudy giuliani, you can look it up. They had him in a room and he was supposed to be doing something with his wire and he had his pants down and he made it look like the girl was trying to give him head or whatever and he was trying to, like, make him look embarrassed and all that shit. Because like bought the dude who, sasha barricone, walked in. What are you doing? And he's like, oh, he's looking crazy, like looking nutso. I don't know how sasha barricone gets that shit off. That's some next level shit he'd be doing yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:It would take me too long to google that shit I believe that was in his last wait yeah, no, the screenshot is right here yeah, he had his pants down he was laying down on the bed and he was taking his pants off?
Speaker 1:yeah, because he was trying she. She was making it seem like he was, she was fixing a wire, but that's not what was going on. That nigga was being nasty.
Speaker 2:But do you remember when all of the documents came out during Trump's trial and they were basically like let's get Rudy Giuliani because he don't stand on shit?
Speaker 8:yeah, we talked about it last time yeah, he's easily like.
Speaker 2:You can pay him to do anything. You don't stand on shit for real, the fucking snake.
Speaker 1:That's why yeah but no, there was something else that was. You ain't gonna believe. Who was? You probably not gonna recognize this person, but kamala has a lot of the celebrities coming out and it's the running joke now saying that everybody who has a diddy tape is having to perform oh, I did see that.
Speaker 2:Did you see the the clip where, like um trump was talking about his rallies and then he was like kamala's having a dance party with beyonce?
Speaker 1:and they turned it into a mix.
Speaker 2:Black people are so unserious, let's get into that.
Speaker 1:So she was in houston and beyonce showed her out. Um, so you know, kind of give her endorsement. She came out with kelly. I had some issues about that, why y'all got kelly looking like she over there, a librarian a librarian librarian why she look like she. She do the dewey decimal system like that's what I want to know oh, she look like a fashionable ass.
Speaker 2:New York City Manhattan librarian. If that's the case, the librarians be looking dowdy as hell. She looked high fashion?
Speaker 1:No, she didn't. She actually looked goofy. I think that Beyonce did that on purpose. She didn't want Kelly to outshine her like she always does.
Speaker 2:Kelly never outshines her. You sick as fuck.
Speaker 1:Yes, she does.
Speaker 2:She's a way stunning, more stunning woman than Beyonce. She just has to sign her light less when she's around Beyonce, it's very clear. Kelly is. Kelly Rowland is absolutely stunning, like gorgeous, and also I have, like I've been a fan of Beyonce for a very long time. I've never been a fan of Beyonce's fashions. I've been a fan of Kelly's fashions way more so. To me, beyonce's like um, tight at the waist, like a-line kind of basic black dress was cute. It was feminine, but as far as like fashion goes, likelly was serving with the blunt, very severe, sharp bob, with the pinstripes, with the oversized suit, like she looked immaculate. She looked way better styled than beyonce did. As far as like a man, um would think. Uh, beyonce had like the defined waist. The hips were a little bit more out. You would think that Beyonce looked better. I thought Kelly looked better by several miles.
Speaker 1:This is part of the Democrats plan to emasculate the dark-skinned woman Emasculate. No, I didn't say emasculate, because it's not emasculating. They're making them more masculine, they're making them appear that way. She looked like she fucking had a pants, jerk, not jersey dress, a pantsuit on, basically like that.
Speaker 2:shit was not it it was an oversized suit. Yeah, again, I feel like it was definitely a pantsuit.
Speaker 1:I feel like beyonce and her team made a concerted effort to make her look more masculine in that picture, so that it's a juxtaposition to beyonce, so that she felt prettier that sounds like an internet conspiracy theory. No, as soon as I seen that I knew what. I knew what was going on. I read that quick. You think? You think kelly has any agency around beyonce?
Speaker 2:probably not no, rarely anybody, as far as her damn husband doesn't as far as, like teams go and styling and stuff like that, um, when kelly comes into the mix, she probably. I would think if she has the opportunity to just leave it up to Beyonce's team, then she would do so, but, um, I don't think that that's always the case. I feel like there might be a case where Beyonce had her her team styling her, which is why she, which is why she looked a specific way, and then Kelly had her team styling her, which is why she, which is why she looked a specific way, and then Kelly had her team styling her, which is why they she had a completely different aesthetic than Beyonce did. Maybe there was a but, like why would we have to do this when the the person running is a black woman and we're trying to get? We don't even need black women to vote for kamala, like we know that black women are voting for kamala this has nothing to do about a black vote.
Speaker 1:This is about wanting to frame an individual of a certain hue, a certain way, so that people have them in their mindset. But the, the platform and then the and if we're talking about the place that they're at is kamala harris's rally so why would?
Speaker 2:the place that they be because they're at.
Speaker 4:Why would the place that?
Speaker 1:they would be doing that, be at a kamala harris rally, because when this has when the the importance that this has is above whatever the fuck you think you think that these you are so naive if you think that they're care about the importance of an event and not looking at it as a press event for their own cachet? Are you serious? You cannot be that naive. Oh my God, you are really drinking a Kool-Aid. That is insane. You would think that they would go there with altruistic intentions and not to only push up their own brand. And, of course, beyonce would use as an opportunity to push her brand by making her look more feminine than the woman who is on the internet regularly said to look more prettier than her in the group that she was in. Come on now, what are you talking about?
Speaker 7:at least have a crazy conspiracy.
Speaker 1:You over here want to think people were altruistic. Oh my god, I want to throw up in my mouth jesus christ. That's naive. Altruistic oh my god, I want to throw up in my mouth jesus christ, that's naive. I'd rather you say something ignorant than naive. Go back to lying, because I can't. I can't take that kind of no ma'am. I like to say it my way I don't speak the queen's white english well, you usually don't say words correctly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't speak the queen.
Speaker 1:Queen's English. My Negro lips were not made to say the Queen's English, so I can't believe that was wild. That was insane. Let's get into this. Actually, that's a good segue into the spaces topic, so let's get into the spaces. So last week, after the whole Dirk thing came out on the Joe Budden podcast, j Juan went back and forth with Joe regarding the topic. They had a series of different disagreements and Jay Juan started getting a lot of criticism in the spaces. I know I said some stuff to him.
Speaker 1:Danny said some stuff to him regarding his commentary on Dirk. Essentially he was being a crime apologist. He was basically saying oh, that's just what niggas come from this, what niggas do, and he was basically trying to say we need to be okay with negroes doing crime in our community because oh, nobody, the old niggas not stopping them and all this other stupid shit that he was saying. So then he goes into a space, uh, and then I guess one of the girls she'd be like in the jbtv community and she did the. She was hosting the space for him and this is when a lot of the criticisms kind of came about, because she was like really like protecting him in a way where, like if you were disagreeing with him or if you uh were harping on a point for too long, like she would mute the whole room.
Speaker 1:I guess some people were, you know, removed or whatever, and a lot of people were just feeling like it was a nasty stage because it looked like somebody who normally doesn't have this role is trying to build themselves up by building up either rapport or friendship that maybe already have with this person, so that you know you push more yourself up in time to community.
Speaker 1:I thought that was kind of weird and on the real J1, like your point is just lost on so much like the fact that you again we talked about the line, this whole episode the fact that you don't have a line to where, once this individual crosses it, they are no longer worthy of your empathy. It just shows how young and naive you are, like it's just goofy. And then just for everyone else on there who, like there are literally folks who don't understand the language that you're using is you're championing this problematic and disgusting life that Dirk presented and the effects that he did. You just feel like that should be something normal and that we should protect that. Like this nigga is not our hero and I just that's just the thing about these young niggas that I would hope that y'all would be able to see at some point to do different, like stop empowering this shit and actually be different. Did you, were you able to take it, listen to any of them or read any of the the messages?
Speaker 2:no, I didn't um, I didn't see anything jay jay one is six years, 26 years old 26, 27 like okay, I just want us to stop having conversations about J1.
Speaker 2:I did this when, um, I first listened to him on the Joe Budden podcast. I kind of framed him around like this young man having this young man frame of thought. But that is I feel like after probably like 24, 23, 24, like you're, you're not in the mind state of a young man anymore. You're 26, 27, you're closer to 30 than anything. So I I need you to be a little bit more mature.
Speaker 2:When I first experienced J1 on JVP, I thought he was maybe 21, 22 years old. When I thought that his brain was developed like a 21 or 22 year old, I was extremely impressed by his opinions and things like that. But then rhetoric told me this nigga was 27, almost 30 years old. Nigga, you, just a regular ass, 27 year old. Like nothing you're saying is of any like stature. You're not saying anything that is making you seem more mature than what you actually are. You're literally you're. You fall in line with like mall and the niggas who annoyed the fuck out of me with a rhetoric of like respectable hood, nigga shit, like I, I don't want to hear from you ever again. After I, I learned that this nigga was 27 and not 21. Also we need, like I thought he was, because he came off and not 21.
Speaker 4:Also we need to Like, I thought he was.
Speaker 1:Because he came off like a 21-year-old. Also, we got to establish the rule After 25, you're no longer a young nigga, you're not, still does not make it not problematic, that is problematic.
Speaker 12:No, no, no it is.
Speaker 13:A girl going out on the streets and selling pussy because something happened to her and she became traumatized, and that's what she chose to do.
Speaker 1:Don't make that not problematic.
Speaker 13:There's a difference between a girl who willingly goes and becomes a prostitute. He's trying to show an example, falls into it from a trauma-based experience. One is not morally sane compared to the other. Like niggas are peacing, niggas are sitting in.
Speaker 1:That honestly yo my nigga for to be on a podcast.
Speaker 2:You articulate yourself like a nigga that horribly chew on rocks you sound like a fucking dumbass, literally, and I am so like. I was so impressed with the state of mind that you were in when I thought that you were at a 20, 21 year old level, but to know that what you're spewing now is that 27,. You're lagging, you're behind, you're literally developmentally challenged.
Speaker 1:He seems to have an obsession with wanting to come off like a street nigga, because he kept bringing up where he was from.
Speaker 2:You're not a street nigga. He might be, I don't know. He off like a street nigga because like he kept bringing up. Like you're not a street nigga, he might be, I don't know, he's not a street nigga. His father was jadakiss. He grew up with money.
Speaker 1:According to him, his daddy wouldn't like that around him. That's how he say it on the show. So his father didn't raise him at all. I'm not saying he didn't raise him. He trying to say it wasn't like that. That's what he tried to say on the show.
Speaker 2:Okay, but see if you tried to do that clout shit and be like claim that show daddy wasn't around you the whole time. He was taking care of you and you just tried to make your daddy look bad, just with some clout. You are even a lamer nigga than I thought you were I'm just going by what the niggas say.
Speaker 1:But again, I just don't see niggas be lying. I just don't understand the obsession for even wanting to promote anything close to this kind of lifestyle, especially when you have seen even if it isn't your life, you've seen niggas lives who it don't have to be that way so for you to like. I feel like he is just part of that real problematic group of individuals who promote the bad shit in our community but expect to have outcomes that don't result.
Speaker 2:But you've never been part of the bad shit for real community but expect to have outcomes that don't result. But you've never been part of the bad shit for real. I mean, I don't know, I ain't speaking for what.
Speaker 1:The nigga has never been part of the bad shit I'm just speaking that the shit looks corny when you're trying to promote shit and there's no line for you to start the criticism, because then there's no, there's no understanding, there's no control, like when you have an experiment you have a control, like there's nothing to to monitor it off of, because you just let anything fly because of community and hood. It's like man that's. That was the most heartbreaking part of listening to that space, because it was just so much like ignorance that people don't understand. Like you're being part of the reason the community is taking an L because you're promoting these kind of people.
Speaker 2:I think J1 generally has a lack of um self, uh, self-awareness when it comes to him being someone who is on a podcast of this caliber. Now, because I did see, because, now that I be like paying attention to the spaces a little bit, because of my husband, I follow Danny. I follow Danny because my husband follows Danny and I want to support Danny. So I be seeing the shit that Danny supports. Danny tweeted at J1 saying, because J1 tweeted him, saying that like oh, stop mentioning me. And then Danny was was like you're on one of the biggest podcasts, you're gonna get mentioned. And danny, I like how matter of fact he is.
Speaker 2:That's the point I do generally like I'm starting to learn like his personality a little bit and he's just gonna be like but this is this, this is this. I thought I'm a street panderer. That was hilarious.
Speaker 2:I didn't see that, but I'm going to stick to what I saw.
Speaker 2:Danny said. You're a personality on one of the biggest podcasts, so you're going to be critiqued, whether you want to be critiqued by me or not, and I just felt like that was very indicative of jay juan's immaturity when it comes to being in this type of light, because you cannot tell a media like conglomerate or even like the stop, to stop just reporting on you. Nigga, we're gonna keep doing that shit because you're on a platform that gets millions of views and when we talk about you, we get a portion of those millions of views, and that's how it's gonna be, point blank. So it's just like very um immature for you to tweet the stop and be like oh, stop talking about me. No, I'm gonna talk about you more now. If I was danny, I would have whole jay wan fucking segments in the joe budden podcast videos, like and now we're gonna get into what the fuck jay wan said this episode because he was on this episode and let's get into it specifically, and dann I do think that you should do that.
Speaker 2:I think that you should do that because J Juan is going to keep tweeting at you and then you just going to benefit from him being mad at you.
Speaker 1:No, he blocked him like a street nigga.
Speaker 2:Oh, he blocked him. Yeah, he blocked Danny like a street nigga. Oh, j Juan is just not so. So now the whole joe budden fandom is not going to get all of danny's j1 content, which is important for them to consume, for them to like you sir, they're not gonna know.
Speaker 1:It's not that, it's just he just blocked him from his own personal page.
Speaker 2:He didn't block him for other people to see okay, his personal page like, but still you, you Like, but still you need to keep those lines open.
Speaker 1:He blocked him like a real street nigga man. That's what real street niggas do. That's what I did to that bitch.
Speaker 2:That was like did you buy them followers? I was like, bitch, I'll fuck you up, block the fuck. Did you ask me that stupid ass question for dumb bitch? Oh?
Speaker 7:man, I didn't block her.
Speaker 2:I unfollowed her actually you can? You can keep watching me, bitch. Keep watching me.
Speaker 1:Give me the views, but I'm not ever gonna see you ever again no, but to me, like I say, I just I feel like once we had a level discernment, understanding, like the nigga who is stuck in the hood and makes a bad decision, you know, gets caught with a gun or drugs. It's not the same as the nigga who did a murder for hire, you know, it's just, it's just not the same, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like it's just there's two different things going on here, need some some real intent is on one person than the other, like, so, like, let's just stop that man, because this is ridiculous. Like I just hate to see that become the face of black blackness, because we always take the brunt of it. If, when, when these niggas do shit everyday, niggas is the one that take the brunt of that shit, and I just hate that shit being promoted, bro, put that shit in your music, cool. But like, when you actually having conversations with real life people who have to live with these ramifications of this shit, we're not gonna be on your side with that at all, bro. Honestly, um, I think that we have something else yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:Make sure there's nothing else we need to talk about with that space, because you made me laugh about something I was gonna say. You made me start doing the d wade face oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2:I saw memes of the d wade face like um, like copied onto other memes, and I was like there's no way that whatever artist did this like made d wade look like this for real. That's what they made D Wade look like. And then D Wade was literally there posting pictures like, oh my God, oh my God, like if we ever get to a point where niggas is making statues of us, I, I would, really I wouldn't, I don't think I'd be um, I don't think I'd be flattered by that because it looks it doesn't look like D Wade whatsoever.
Speaker 1:First of all, alright well, thank y'all for listening to talk. Fnf TV do greatly appreciate.