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GNX Review Kendrick Lamar's Worst Effort, Squabble up Breakdown, and Drake vs UMG - Talk FNF TV
Kendrick Lamar's latest album has dropped unexpectedly, turning our holiday plans upside down—and we're here to unpack all the chaos. How does an artist from Compton manage to shake up the music landscape so suddenly? Absurd Rhetoric and Miss Reality invite you to explore the surprising release of "G and X: 12 Tracks," starting with its provocative title. Miss Reality breaks down the creative genius behind the album's composition and energy, while we humorously debate potential alternate names that could have made just as much noise. Dive into our lively analysis as we reflect on the album's initial reception, comparing Kendrick's style to heavyweights like Drake and Childish Gambino.
Join us for an engaging track-by-track journey, filled with mixed reactions and unexpected appreciation for songs like "Peekaboo" and "Whacked Out Murals." We dissect Kendrick's lyrical content, pondering perceived disses aimed at the likes of Andrew Schultz and Snoop Dogg, while speculating on industry beefs that might simmer between Kendrick and Lil Wayne. Our playful banter doesn’t stop there; we also touch on the broader music industry dynamics, such as Drake's recent legal battles and ventures into streaming and gambling. Through these intricate relationships, our discussion underscores the subjective nature of music appreciation and the ever-evolving landscape of artistic expression.
Before we wrap things up, we bring you the latest in music industry lawsuits and strategic maneuvers, including Drake's fight against UMG and Spotify, and what it means for his future. We consider the complex dance of industry politics and alliances, all while expressing heartfelt gratitude to our listeners and supporters who make this podcast possible. Engage with us across social media—just keep it respectful—and stay tuned for a potential special episode that's sure to entertain and enlighten. From the unfolding drama of artist rivalries to our signature cheeky spirit, this episode promises a rollercoaster of insights and laughs.
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Speaker 1:what the fuck? You're now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host Absurd Rhetoric. I'm with my lovely and amazing co-host, miss Reality Hi guys, KDrop nigga. All right, let's just you know, we've got a lot of energy here.
Speaker 2:There's so much energy.
Speaker 1:Let's, let's, uh, let's keep it. You know, a little mellow, that's all I refuse so this is. This episode wasn't even supposed to happen this week. I thought we was going to take a break off for the holiday. Absolutely not. We were going to be able to enjoy ourselves. No, but no, that's. That's not what happened.
Speaker 2:Man, a man from from compton, interrupted our, our regularly scheduled marketing program just just dropped, so in the middle of the day as y'all know, I'm not the kdot fan here, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give the reins over to uh, miss reality.
Speaker 1:Here we're gonna. We're gonna break down some of this album, talk about some videos, and then we gotta we gotta talk about my boy too. So it's been a lot bitch.
Speaker 2:That's hate. I'm sorry I shouldn't curse so early in the episodes all right man I was trying to think of a nicer word for for it, but the word I said encompasses it. So let me, let's start.
Speaker 1:So kendrick dropped g and x 12 tracks gay niggas x-rated that's stupid, um so other other vaginal option wasn't huh other vaginal option wasn't. That wasn't stupid, that was that was stupid. It was more creative than gay niggas.
Speaker 2:X-rated that sounds like a horrible porn site with all of the pop-ups what is the other vaginal option? There's only one medication it sounds like medication, sounds like a tagline to a different form of birth control.
Speaker 1:Sounds like what Lamar Odom bought.
Speaker 2:Ooh, why is Lamar in it? Kendrick Lamar, okay, I see what you did there.
Speaker 1:I see what you did there. That's why I didn't know how we were going to start this off. I didn't know. We wanted to give our overall thoughts on the album before we went through each song. Oh, you want to do that. Let's do that really quickly yeah we can start off with just that and then we can kind of break down.
Speaker 2:So, do you want to go forward or yeah, I thought the album um was like solid, like all the the whole 12 tracks I enjoyed. There were a couple songs that I didn't enjoy in the the first listen. Which one was it? It Peekaboo. I didn't enjoy when I first listened to it but it grew on me. So generally I enjoyed the album. It was really good. I thought it was really well produced. I thought a lot of the beats were great, like one of me I. The first time I listened to it I was in the car with my friends and we were all like, bopping, like, so it was a good listen yeah, I mean I, I liked well I thought it was really digestible too, because we were driving and then it was just done and we were like, oh, it was about 45 minutes
Speaker 1:yeah I probably liked about. I want to say maybe like a quarter of the songs, probably like four songs that I really liked. The rest of them I could do without. It was probably like Luther, gnx, the Heart, part 6, and the Whacked Out Murals. Yeah, that was the two, three. I liked Other ones I just to me it was a lot of songs Like I felt that he could have other people probably would have sounded way better doing if he would have wrote it for him, just like if they did the exact same work. Like Gloria, that sounded like a Childish Gambino song to me. Like I felt like there was a lot of songs I hear where he was kind of I wouldn't say emulating drake, but it was kind of like a drake modelish in regards to some of the songs oh my god, I did feel that.
Speaker 2:Can you let me? Can you have my opinion? Can I have my opinion?
Speaker 1:your opinion is garbage I just felt like he was doing a lot of the stuff that people would criticize drake for. I thought he did it good, but I don't think it sounded that good to me. It wasn't. His voice isn't something that really resonates with me the way other rappers are, like, say, I felt like a lot of these songs the beats were good, some of the flips were really good, but it just it was kendrick that wasn't really giving me what I really wanted to hear.
Speaker 2:But we can go through each song so, um, the the album starts with whacked out murals and it was. It was a really strong start. Honestly, I was like this is an absolutely crazy intro like um. So he, he addresses a couple people on the the track. He, he makes a couple comments. So let me take out my phone too, because I got I got screenshots of the lyrics on my phone. So he, um, he addressed at the end um white comedians. So Andrew Schultz.
Speaker 1:Took a shot?
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely. Who else do you think he was addressing?
Speaker 1:It was just Andrew Schultz. Yeah, that was the only person who was in the news that was doing that. Academics even talked to Schultz. He said that is this guy so woke? He basically implied that Kendrick is too woke for a joke. And, uh, that was basically his uh, his comeback, for he didn't really have too much to say about it.
Speaker 2:But you can't have too much to say about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, you got a point there.
Speaker 2:Mustard did his thing producing this album. He produced a lot of the songs. So, um, the first song is whacked out mural, so he came out, came at andrew schultz and then, um he came out, a couple other people during the song. So he came at snoop dog. He said um, snoop posted tailor-made. I prayed it was the edibles, couldn't believe it. It was only right for me to let it go. And then snoop today, or like a couple days ago, when um kendrick dropped the album, came out and tweeted k dot, new album, gnx, madfire and microphone emojis it was the edibles.
Speaker 1:West west king we'll bring up taylor so he ran that back we'll bring up taylor maiden, but I said this song was pretty good. I mean, I think people were over exaggerating with them taking quote unquote shots. I don't think it was really a shot at Snoop the Wayne one though.
Speaker 2:He literally said Snoop, like it wasn't a, he just brought it up, he just said his name Like that was weird.
Speaker 1:He just said his name but I feel like the Wayne one. There does need to be a question about that.
Speaker 2:He also came away and he said I used to bump the Carter III. I held my rolly chain. Proud Irony, I think my hard work let Lil Wayne down, Got the Super Bowl and Nas was the only one to congratulate me. All these niggas agitated. I'm just glad it's on they faces.
Speaker 1:That's a J Cole diss too Under that, because the glad it's on they faces. That's a j cole diss too under that, because the whole let's nods down oh, yeah, yeah, yeah in regards to that. So that was. That was a j cole shot as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah that was not a good song either but again, I I understand why wayne took it the way he did. I think people keep coming under this assumption that wayne wasn't told something. I feel that wayne was told he was promised something and that's why anything that you discuss in regards to him about that is why he feels like that he was gonna be the next up.
Speaker 2:He was told something has he come out and said like no, he's all but said it he, he did that Instagram post talking about oh, you don't want to wake the sleeping giant that was a Twitter or wherever he posted it. He posted it somewhere on social media saying that like, just leave me be like blah blah. I assume he was addressing kendrick. So what does a wayne and kendrick beef look like?
Speaker 1:that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's gonna happen, but I want to talk about what it looks like because wayne is wayne beefs don't really happen like other bees.
Speaker 1:Usually he just brings you up in one or two bars and is never brought up again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who has Wayne actually gone back and forth with? I don't think Wayne's gone back and forth with.
Speaker 1:Huh, he's gone back and forth with Gilly. Gilly the Kid. You don't remember any of that happening back in the day? No, who the fuck he literally has a famous verse that he did where he took a shot at him. Well, I've never as a New Yorker heard of Jimmy the Kid before his podcast. Now I would think you would have, being him from Philly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know Niggas from Philly. What is Philly? I'm trying to think. Who else?
Speaker 1:he went out with. It's not too many people that he just went bar for bar made big time diss songs at.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think Wayne has had a back and forth, even when he went with Jay-Z and stuff.
Speaker 1:It was just shots with just like petty rap shots. It was never nothing for him?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't. So that's why I said I don't think seeing Wayne in a battle with anybody would be anything to him, especially now, especially with a more younger, that his brain has been ravaged by drugs and syrup. His synapses don't fire the same way syrup is sick.
Speaker 1:I don't think it ever fired for disses. I think he just could take funny little shots here and there.
Speaker 2:So I think that would just was always great when it came to lyricism, like everyone said, that he just went in the booth and never wrote anything down and just spit his shit down but I mean that don't translate.
Speaker 1:Translate to dissing somebody and making me able to take shots at people.
Speaker 2:So maybe not, but he's, he's clever, if I feel like if he tried, he, it would be good I think we would have been hurt if it was something that yeah, I feel like maybe he's just not interested in beefing with niggas I mean niggas was shooting at you tour buzzer.
Speaker 1:They was gonna give him a couple balls after that that's peace.
Speaker 2:So, um, the next song was squabble up that he. He teased it at the beginning of not like us and we knew it as broccoli, but it's squabble up and he dropped the the video to this like two, three days after the album yeah so um? Everyone was absolutely losing their goddamn minds.
Speaker 1:This does not feel like a lead single for me, though.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:This was not one of my favorites at all.
Speaker 2:I didn't really like it. Well, you have horrible taste in music, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter what you think at all, but no, to me it sounded like he was trying.
Speaker 2:I'm listening to Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates be snapping sometimes, though.
Speaker 1:What he does to kevin gates. Like what what kevin gates be snapping sometimes though, but he does no kevin it does. You're gonna be looking crazy when you say kevin gates, but with this one right here it seemed like he was trying to recapture, because he did this on a few songs where he had that west coast beat where he was trying to see like he's trying to recapture what he caught with not like us a little bit the whole um.
Speaker 2:A lot of the album was literally like an ode to West Coast, so that makes sense this just seemed like the first time. The album cover the car like it was like a old old school, like really famous car in LA that like all the boys in the hood and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is constantly stuck, and that's what I got from most of his album as well too. He's just constantly stuck like he's in a John Singleton movie, like he really feels, like he's Kane or O-Dog or what was Cuba Getty Jr's character, like that's who he feels, like he is, like he's stuck in that epitome, like Drake was right. Yo, you think you Bishop and Juice.
Speaker 2:And Drake thinks he's a fully black man. So, fully black man. So there were a bunch of like different references. So the whole the whole green room thing was a roots reference to one of their, one of their songs. It was called the new movement, so it was basically the same as that. So there were like african-american flags, you know the, the american flag, that's black, green and red, um not to be mistaken with the black heritage flag he black american heritage flag he um had the, the book that he was reading, how to be more like kendrick for dummies.
Speaker 2:I want him to put that out so I can get that as a coffee book table, please, kendrick.
Speaker 1:There also was a part in there. I guess they had like words in the background Like they were doing like an old game show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:With a couple and somebody put it in chat GBT and what they found was it spelled a Latin phrase called Omani esua laquid, which means everything is something, yeah. Called omoni eswa likwid, which means everything is something, yeah. So I think that plays into the fact that a lot of the imagery that you've seen in the video it made.
Speaker 1:It was was part of a reason, but the funny thing about that video is that video looked like an episode of improper improv. If y'all not familiar with flip show, that's exactly what it looked like it looked like he did. Exactly not familiar, because I've never it was just like him around a whole bunch of chaos, and that's what you know what?
Speaker 2:that actually reminds me of eric andre, because that's actually what I've like seen before yeah, but eric.
Speaker 1:Eric used the idea of taking a familiar setting and then inverting it. This was just one scene and we're just going to do a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2:He's been doing that a lot, though the not like Not. Like Us video was also the Not Like Us video also look like that. He was just like in a white room with a bunch of stuff going on around him. He's been doing that a lot like that type of visual.
Speaker 1:But he had more cuts than that. This was literally just like a cheap ass video.
Speaker 2:I don't think it was cheap. I think it was for a reason because it was literally referencing the Roots music video and that's how the Roots music video was it was. It was a choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when you make an homage to that, that's cool and all.
Speaker 2:And they were homages to a lot of things. Yeah, they had the boys in the hood.
Speaker 1:Like I say, he's constantly in the John Singleton movie. He'd had the boys in the hood constantly in the john singleton movie. Um, he'd had the boys in the hood. Little boy, right. Yeah, he had that too. He had the iced tea, uh cover, because he was. He was wearing the blue like iced tea then he had the girl, he had the iced tea.
Speaker 1:Cover art with the little, the booty and the gun yeah, the girl with the gun uh, and had her ass out, so I mean he had the, the do the right thing um reference radio rahim.
Speaker 2:Instead of the love hate he had hood love on his rings also too.
Speaker 1:You didn't add, when that african, the african-american flag that was up. That also was a reference to the twitter page who was releasing all the information about drake and things of that nature that ebony page oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like ebony prince or whatever that was posting all of that drake information.
Speaker 2:So that was also a nod to the, to them as well yeah, and there was a lot of um, a lot of homage to the bay, so that was like great to see for all the LA people, like I was as I was reading the comments, all the people from the bay were like super happy that he acknowledged and paid homage to them. So that's cool. There was a jesus saved gangsters 2 um poster that he was signing and it's actually a la-based ministry that tries to get like gang members to turn their lives over to god, so that's what that was referencing. And then the whole video was filled with easter eggs about how he another album is dropping, so um, so hold on before you get into that.
Speaker 1:Did the heavyset women mean anything?
Speaker 2:oh, I didn't. I didn't see anything other than good for the big girls.
Speaker 1:I don't know okay, I'm just asking. Yeah, I couldn't figure it out, so me neither.
Speaker 2:I don't think anybody figured that part out because, all of the all, everything that I consumed today, I didn't see anything referencing the heavyset women so I was like what the gross sisters from california oh that all of them weren't even big all three of the girls in the back.
Speaker 1:Yes, they were. That was like the main point of them all. You can see like they had the thing open and bellied out okay, so there's definitely another album dropping right.
Speaker 2:So, um, uh, he had nate dog's g funk classic in the background, which is a double album. There was a volume one and volume two. There's the the man in the black robe that was um referencing isaac hayes album. Uh, black Moses, which also a double album. The video reference the roots, the new movement was from their album Things Fall Apart double album. And then he also pays homage to All Eyes On Me, which also is a double album. Homage to all eyes on me, which also is a double album. So everyone on the internet has kind of been saying that maybe kendrick is gonna drop another album even before the year is over, which is absolutely insane, because if you're a kendrick fan, we usually have to wait like three, four calm years before we get another project.
Speaker 1:So but when you, when you in real artist mode, when they, when they actually making you push out content, you can't do that kind of funny, funny guy shit yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 2:You usually don't drop an album two months apart unless you somebody else, but it's cool yeah, like future great people who do that you know regularly, but has.
Speaker 1:Other people do that regularly, you usually like, do a deluxe to the album that you just regularly but has do.
Speaker 2:Other people do that regularly.
Speaker 1:You usually like do a deluxe to the album that you just dropped, but a whole, nother body of music I just named two people what kendrick does and we'll see if it, if it, holds up. But we'll discuss that at the end of at the end of this uh breakdown for the album the.
Speaker 2:I thought I thought the video was great and I enjoyed it. So next song is man at the garden, and I'm gonna be playing that song every single morning for the entire year of 2025 no, that song was.
Speaker 1:That was one of the ones I didn't like either it was manifesting abundance.
Speaker 2:I loved it. All of my friends. When we played it in the car, we were like, oh yes, this is it. This is making me feel like I want the vvs's and the diamonds because I deserve it all that's that's what I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 1:Who are you trying to convince Us or yourself? That's what I was thinking the whole time while I was listening to the song.
Speaker 2:No, it was a manifestation song.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what y'all calling it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what you put things into the universe so they can become true.
Speaker 1:Hip-hop used to call that flexing, but now we got manifestation songs Great.
Speaker 2:Both songs great. Oh, both.
Speaker 1:he was manifesting and flexing okay he deserves all the things that he has. Yeah, that's. That's exactly what you want from your, your black messiah salute he's not my messiah I didn't say it was yours.
Speaker 2:I'm talking in general no, but he's nobody's messiah okay that's absolutely fucking insane salute you're so pretentious?
Speaker 1:I'm pretentious. Did you hear this okay? He's not my messiah this album isn't pretentious though. No, okay, he's had more pretentious. Did you hear this? Okay, he's not my messiah. This album isn't pretentious, though no, okay, he's had more pretentious albums I mean like so we're gonna get into all that at the end of this, let's just go through the song.
Speaker 2:So the next song is hey now, and that. I enjoyed that beat a lot, like I was like, okay, he's not playing with us. And mustard also. It's produced by mustard and soundwave. Mustard again put his whole fucking foot in this goddamn album.
Speaker 1:Um, then reincarnated is the fuck what I gotta say about it, right honestly yeah, but go ahead see, this is what I'm saying, how I'm supposed to have a conversation about it.
Speaker 2:You said, fuck what I gotta say.
Speaker 1:But that was another song where I felt like the beat was actually really good, that he just it was underperformed on with just his voice, like a lot of these songs were. If he wasn't on there, if he somebody else's voice was on there, it would have sounded so much better to me. But it's just the way that he comes onto a track. It's like a little anime dude, like it doesn't really sound like a hip-hop star for me with a lot of this, but even with the next one, reincarnated, like who is he trying to be? Tupac or Eminem?
Speaker 2:so none of them. So the first the, the song reincarnated, is a bunch of verses, but it's it's like him reincarnating into different artists until he's himself again and then he has a conversation with god. I think so. The first um. The first verse is apparently john lee hook, so he was a famous blues artist back in the day. Apparently I'm not 100 sure about this. The second verse is definitely billy holiday um. The third verse is kendrick's perspective, and then the fourth verse is either him speaking to god or him speaking for him, rapping from the perspective of the of the archangel sadalphon, who is the archangel of music in the heavens okay, so, so that with the, with the beat itself, though you didn't feel like he was trying to, like challenge a channel or inner tupac or something that was going on yes 100.
Speaker 2:The the first verse he was rapping like tupac, but he he wasn't.
Speaker 1:To me it sounded like eminem that's what it felt like he was trying to channel tupac I know what you're saying. To me it felt like he was trying to channel tupac and it ended up coming out like eminem, which was funny to me.
Speaker 2:But that's what I kept hearing, because I'm like this sounds interesting. I didn't think it sounded like. I thought it. This sounded like Stan Eminem.
Speaker 1:This sounded like I'm don't you know, I'm throwing out my closet type shit like you know that, that kind of Eminem and that's what I was hearing with it, because I'm like, damn why, why do I keep? I hear this Tupac like beat flipped, but then you sounded like Marshall Mathers the whole time, which is so crazy. But again that one, I felt like he would have sounded better if he was just sounding like him, like that probably would have been a better song for that, yeah, but there was a whole like concept to it.
Speaker 2:So okay, so reincarnated is one of those songs that, like, you enjoy in concept, but you're not gonna like listen to that over and over and over again.
Speaker 1:Like, but it's a it's a so the next song is tv off mustard why are y'all so impressed by a grown man yelling another man's name?
Speaker 2:nigga, it's just fun, like what do you mean? And it's very.
Speaker 1:It's like two minutes into the song too like I mean he does the beat flip and then goes into that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it he was like oh like, it's just fucking fun okay, now it's.
Speaker 2:Now it's fun, okay, like it's funny, and then it was the, and then I was just so taken aback by how long he yelled it to like we were in the car and we were just like, oh, oh, oh, okay, okay, what the fuck like? Kendrick, um, like I I said before, always has a super animated side to him. So this is not like new um, I like the beat flip a lot. It was good. The next song is Dodger Blue. I hated that song so much.
Speaker 1:I love that song Every time.
Speaker 2:It's a little. That's how I feel about Luther. Did I talk about Luther? No, oh my God, I didn't even talk about Luther.
Speaker 1:That's one of the better songs actually on this project.
Speaker 2:I know right. So Luther is featuring SZA and it has a luther vandross sample on it and it's immediately a hit. All the girls love it. I've seen it on tiktok scrolling like it's already a hit.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I like that song a lot. Like I'm saying earlier, that was one of the other songs that I felt like would have been a normal hip-hop artist. You would hear them making a song like that and that would kind of go for a generic target packaged up nonsense like he usually likes.
Speaker 2:I love that song, did you?
Speaker 1:just describe what the song that you just said that that's what I'm saying it is, that's what that sounds sounded like it sounded like it did sound like what you hear nowadays with all these other rappers, where they take the old school flip they change they take an old school flip and then they turn it into this Fire, fire, fire Again that's something that y'all would.
Speaker 1:If my boy did that, it would be rotting. Y'all be hating to that, though no niggas would have like that's just a fun little jig. Like if drake did that, niggas would love that. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:I felt like that was a drake song. That sounded like a drake song to me. Oh my god. No, it didn't. Sza is literally the cheat code at this point. If you have featuring sZA, that's it.
Speaker 1:It's a hit yeah, when they can just lower your vocals, when you're trying to fake sing and they just put hers up because that's what they was doing that's how he always sounds.
Speaker 2:I hate when Kendrick tries to like sing for real.
Speaker 1:He tried to do it on that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying that, because he's not. He's not a singer at all. I hate when my rappers try to sing, though that's a. That's a sentiment that I hold across the board for all of them. He did that a few times, childish gambino. He did it a few times on this. I guess it's okay when childish gambino sings a little bit.
Speaker 1:I mean, if kendrick just accepts his theater kid, you know personality, maybe you know the singing will come out easier. Just be that glee kid the next song is peekaboo.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's my bitch that was this one.
Speaker 1:Felt like he was trying to take from the.
Speaker 2:Not like us train again too no, this was um the very la like, not rapping on beat e40 type um vibe, and that's what I mean when I say that and this since the album was like very much a love letter to la and la culture, then it fit right into what he wanted to do. That this is one of the songs that like turned me off 100% when I first heard it, but then I heard it a couple more times and then like it's your brain washed yourself into liking it I feel like when I, if I heard this this drunk with my friends, we would have a blast singing along to this together.
Speaker 1:It'll be a hard Young Thug song. That'll be a crazy Young Thug song. The first time I did this I was like, oh yeah, young Thug would have killed this.
Speaker 2:Too bad he didn't, so the next song is you a fucking hater, young Just because ain't nobody worshiping Too bad Kendrick't.
Speaker 1:So the next song is You're a fucking hater, young. Just because ain't nobody worshiping Too bad Kendrick already killed it. Ain't nobody worshiping this little short king and you just get upset every time. What?
Speaker 2:do you mean nobody's worshiping Kendrick? That's on me. I'm not worshiping that little short king, so every time I say something oh, nobody, I don't care, you're talking about him like that, I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm being honest with my opinions on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know I hate her. Next is the hard part six.
Speaker 1:That was pretty good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I enjoyed it. I didn't have a lot of anything to say about that, though.
Speaker 1:I mean it felt like one of his normal songs. He did a little bit like kendrick come cried about the little black hippie stuff and you know it's my fault. I want to rap like abseil. Abseil j-rock was my man um, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm very upset about black hippie not working out, because I like black hippie a lot, but um, you gotta blame kendrick. All of them individually have been doing their thing. I didn't like ab souls last can't even blame kindred.
Speaker 1:He told you you could. You can't even blame him.
Speaker 2:That's crazy no, go ahead blame kindred, but like I'm just saying um ab souls last, like couple songs that I've like the last album joe said that was a cult classic the last abso album I didn't. I didn't love it too much, but maybe um I just, I only listen to it. I need to listen to it a couple more times.
Speaker 2:So, um, then the last song is gloria yeah, that sounded like a child's gambino song which is like a love letter to his pen, like his, his relationship to, to hip-hop and rap music and everything like that the pen whitney what the pen, then whitney like I don't know he. He talked about whitney on the last album. We've had enough of that I'm sure.
Speaker 1:I'm sure she's had enough too. All right, so let's ask the question that I really need to get to this Was this his worst effort Out of all of his projects? Comparing Kendrick to Kendrick, was this his worst effort?
Speaker 2:In my opinion, like I've said before, I didn't enjoy Mr Morale as much as I usually enjoy Kendrick's albums. This one I enjoyed a lot. So what songs am I probably not going to go back to at all? Probably just the Heart, part six, gloria I'm probably not going to go back to. Reincarnated I'm probably not going to go back to. Reincarnated, I'm probably not gonna go back to, and then that's it out of like 12. So I enjoyed it way more than his last album and so I don't think it was his worst effort.
Speaker 1:But it's very subjective yeah, I mean for what I'm listening to and what I've always put him into a certain particular place because he does have like that high conscious type of music or whatever. So I feel like you got to judge that under a certain type of perspective and umbrella and this is why I would say this one is probably his worst effort, because this one felt like, out of all the ones that he was doing, what people wanted to hear from him, more so than he has, than I feel like he has in the past. I think the thing that always brought him, made him different and interesting, was he would sit back, see what everybody else was doing and then do his own thing in his music. But this felt like he was trying to pull from the not like us tree. He took a lot of the music that came from it and it.
Speaker 1:It just felt like it came also a little bit quick too, cause when his last album what, probably what? A year and a half ago I don't remember when it came out, I think it came out in 23. Uh, yeah, because he had a tour in 23, so it probably came out like before the end of 22. So just just to see, interesting to see him break his normal stride once.
Speaker 1:Everything kind of popped up yeah, it was may 13th 2022, so yeah, just interesting to see him break from his normal stride, kind of do this music that for lack of a better word people want to expect it from him. So that's where, to me, it kind of took back, because, like I said, this has been my year of being surprised by artists that I normally don't like. J Cole album I liked this year, that I normally don't like his music. I thought this was what was going to happen here.
Speaker 2:You normally don't like jaco. I've never liked jaco's music. I don't want to hear about you losing your virginity, um, and all that country ass shit like I don't want to hear about any of that.
Speaker 1:See what I'd be saying, what I'd be saying don't, don't tell me about mr nice. Watch, I don't want to hear about that shit, that shit's.
Speaker 2:That was one of that's literally bottom of the barrel, his I'm just talking about, I'm just bringing up something like mr nice, watch is what you just said.
Speaker 1:I was just shitting on it. I just said I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 2:I know, but like Jesus, fucking Christ.
Speaker 1:Okay, but no, I expected that. I thought I was going to hear something different. I don't think this is the real album. I think that this is something else to expect coming out. I think this was just like a teaser preview keeping everybody satiated because this can't be the album. We. Keeping everybody satiated because this can't be the album. We got nothing from him out of this, if we're being honest.
Speaker 2:We got a couple good little diddy bops. You know I like the album. I think it was very solid and, like I said from the Squabble Up video, I think there is going to be another album coming very soon.
Speaker 1:I think Pitchfork said it really well in regards to their breakdown of the album and basically what they said was out of everything that you've done this year, all you brought to us is what we knew about you and Snoop you being upset about something that's not even that serious, dwayne snubbing and being happy that you know nas was the only person that congratulated you was like essentially it was like here the person statement was like I'm all for airing out petty grievances in your raps, but when you're also chatting about saving the essence of hip-hop, there has to be something deeper and at the root.
Speaker 1:Instead, this is the usual dick swinging of the hip-hop elites, acting as if their genre hinges on kendrick's personal journey to black excellence. Is this that? Is this the life of hip-hop outlaw? Is this the watch? Is this that watching the party die? My man, the party might be at your own crib now. So that's what he said to him, but I just feel like that's what it was like. This was a very surface level, normal rap album for somebody who right now you're supposed to be taking your rise to the top.
Speaker 2:This is supposed to be like your first album as the new king of hip-hop usually when you um become more mainstream, you have to like give people what they want a little bit more. So would you not think that he would need to keep the pace of not like us and give people what they want? Like a little bit more a beat than Kendrick usually? Yeah, if you're not telling those a little bit less like content heavy.
Speaker 1:Yeah when you're not.
Speaker 2:Yeah when you're not supposed to be the person when the last album was like, extremely like, but when you tell me you're this emotional and heavy, when you tell me you have all this integrity heavy.
Speaker 1:When you tell me you have all this integrity when you, when you reference this and quote-unquote integrity, especially in this album. He even said in this album one of his songs when you talk about this integrity, it don't matter where you rise to fame or what's the quintessential status quo of an artist. It's about you bringing who you are. Every time you bring a project and that's why, again, my main gripe with him is that you play this. I'm different lane, but you're the same as every other artist. You move the same. Once you get the light on you, once the the labels behind you, you do and move the exactly the same as any other artist and it doesn't feel different I don't think any artist has that much power to move that differently.
Speaker 2:if you have the same, everyone has the same people behind them.
Speaker 1:But every artist doesn't do the pretentious. I'm the different one in their music.
Speaker 2:A lot of them do.
Speaker 1:No, they do it in a way where they say they're different from the system, that they want to be a part of Him. He's trying to say I'm breaking out of the system.
Speaker 2:But it just seems like everything that you're doing is in line with what the elites would want from you. When has Kendrick said that he's breaking out of the system and he's doing things differently?
Speaker 1:I think in a lot of his social media posts.
Speaker 2:What social media posts Can you?
Speaker 1:let me answer it social media posts, especially what social media can. Let me answer it when he was coming out to mr morale, he was doing a lot of criticism of what the industry was going on and how music was. He's done that before. He said and done things where he has put himself a step ahead of everyone, even in his own rap something not not like the conventional I'm just the best rap it's like no, I'm just a better person than all of y'all no, he has, he has.
Speaker 2:He has implied that in his no, he hasn't young, he the nigga, wear a fucking cross in his head. I mean, where's a fucking? His last whole album was about him being a piece of shit, garbage, human being, and going through therapy and trying to literally yeah, that's all part of a better man a better father, a better everything, yeah that's part of the marketing.
Speaker 1:That's what you're supposed to do with that process. I'm just being honest with it and, like I said from this one, I don't feel like we got that person who is now growing to that next level. It feels very cookie cutter for that. That quentin, like when the white people think of, like the hotep rapper, like this is who they're giving us, this is what they think. It looks like he's kind of just moving in and following suit for what they want, like it doesn't feel like he's resisting anything. But I mean, again, I must be a criticism for having that when people who speak revolutionary, uh, in their music and in their quote-unquote image. So I, I again. This is why I don't really enjoy his type of music, because I hold people like that to a way higher standard. I rather just look at you being the party boy, lover boy type shit than you being this oh, I'm the upright black man, because then I'm gonna hold you to the upright black man standard and but the thing is that kendrick has never said he's an upright black man.
Speaker 2:He's always on this album. He's always said that he's working his way into trying to be that black man and he wants to be that black man, but he is not yet that black man, okay that's.
Speaker 1:That's very, very easy story to get around, but that's, that's very swell all right, so we got anything regarding the album we need to touch on or anything.
Speaker 2:No, I think that's everything for the album. Yeah, it was a really good album.
Speaker 1:Shout out to my nigga Drake. You did exactly what I said. You went to the whites. You've been listening to the show and I respect that. You went to the whites. The whites are going to bring you in. You gamble with the whites and you go on stream with the whites. So he was on stream with what? Xqc, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Shout out to that weird white boy Went on there. I did not like his face.
Speaker 1:He looked like. What was that Ninja? Remember, that was the nigga that was coming up when we were in college and stuff.
Speaker 2:Ninja was the main streamer. He looks like he would be a Slytherin.
Speaker 1:I can see that, but no, drake sat down with him. They did like a steak stream and what y'all got to know for all y'all trying to be goofy and shit on drake and all that shit what y'all gotta understand is drake is a part owner in state steak. Look at this hater. Where's your stream at? Where's your gambling app? Uh, you kindred clones.
Speaker 2:Um, drake owns part of state and state ate that kid I did and uh steak and steak owns um damn, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, steak owns a part of kick and that's who that kid streams big time on is on kick. So that's where drake is. Drake is literally just doing work, he's. He was at work when he was with this guy. They made a little, you know, sat down, disrespected some fragile ops, steve lacy that was mad random that was funny, though, but the dude doesn't know nothing about drake.
Speaker 2:That's why like what is the beef between drake and steve lacy? He probably fucked this bitch. That's what I was thinking. Well, that's what it always is like, because there's there's no other reason while why drake would be calling out steve lacy. And then steve lacy replied like very hilariously to me. He put out the little he was like like who?
Speaker 1:I didn't get that. Ops, I didn't get that it's a finger heart.
Speaker 2:That's how the asians do it it's a heart.
Speaker 1:Is he a straight man?
Speaker 2:that's what I was coming here to say, because I don't want to put bisexuality on nobody else's jacket.
Speaker 1:But but if you take a picture after I called you a fragile art, with your fingers crossed, it was.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't him that wasn't him.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, no, that was him he put.
Speaker 2:Um, he put the little emoji and it was like yeah, that was sick.
Speaker 1:I'm not there for that. And then?
Speaker 2:he also posted like the screenshot of drake on his story with mad like laughing emojis. He was like yo, what the fuck? I feel like steve lacy has no idea why drake called him a fragile he definitely knows why? Also, I think it's really funny that drake came at steve lacy because, as you know, steve Lacey was like early on Future Gang Right and Drake has been liking and supporting Chromacopia and Tyler was at the pop out concert like he performed there. So I'm confused Like who. Who who's op and who's not.
Speaker 1:Well, Tyler, you know him. And Tyler, he did the Camp Flogging all years ago, Remember.
Speaker 2:He did, where he was booed by the entire crowd because there's a different part of hip hop the Tyler, the Kendrick people who don't want to see Drake.
Speaker 1:Especially because he replaced somebody. I don't remember who he replaced. He didn't replace anybody. Tyler said that he had a special guest and everybody thought it was gonna be frank yes, if you expected frank ocean and you get drake, I would be pissed off he gave him a great show.
Speaker 2:I would be so pissed off.
Speaker 1:No, everybody booed him yeah, that's because they didn't want to enjoy him, doesn't mean it wasn't a great show to see him because they were not fans of him.
Speaker 2:So but then tyler came out and he was like, please stop booing my friend. We're actually friends, don't do that they still kept booing him yeah, they did, because fuck that nigga, but um see I thought that was. I thought that was hilarious, that like you fuck with frank, I mean you fuck with um tyler, but you call in steve a fragile op and they mans like but he's also like you say, he just did the the pop out with kendrick.
Speaker 1:So we know tyler go both ways, and so it's cool for him no, I'm not talking about tyler.
Speaker 2:Tyler is mans with steve and he's mans with, um, the entire of tde and they've been close for a very long time. They're all from la, they've been making music for a long time, um, I just think it's. It's interesting that, like tyler's mad it's I mean drake is mad at steve but not tyler, because drake was just now liking chromacopia.
Speaker 1:Posts like but that's because a couple weeks ago drake ain't fucking none of tyler's twinks they safe, so we they ain't got nothing to beef about. That's what happens. You know, sometimes you gotta keep a little gay, gay nigga by you. You know I'm done. Uh, did he go by? Did he go at anybody else from at the street? I don't think he went by. I think he went into his little rant where you know he talked about. You know where his mind and body and soul was yeah, I respected that y'all was calling out.
Speaker 1:I tried to say he got a bald spot.
Speaker 2:That was hate he definitely do got a bald spot. He's bald. He's getting older. Yeah, he's almost 40. What do you expect? Yeah, you go to both the base.
Speaker 1:No, I don't. That's hate talk about your spots?
Speaker 2:what?
Speaker 1:bald spot do I have? I'm not gonna put you out there like that. Where see that's? Why? See how I'm better than you? Because I don't have to bring such low blows to you, because where is the bald spot? I'm not gonna, uh, embarrass you, my wife. Why would I want to show my wife's flaws to the world? There is wife, why would I want to show my wife's flaws? To the world, because there is none why would I want to do that, my mom?
Speaker 2:would have told me why she was braided. My, she would have like bitch, she just braided around it.
Speaker 1:I seen her, she braided her. She did a little round braid but shout out to her yeah that's.
Speaker 2:That's a good lady but a liar with bad taste in music what does that?
Speaker 1:what does that make you? What does that make you? But no, I think everything else from this stream wasn't too major.
Speaker 2:I think the biggest thing that kind of came out of it was the next day when you could tell he was a little upset like no, run the paperwork we going now everything coming out he also in the beginning of the stream was like he got up and spin around. He was like here, full in my body and soul, because you can't take me out with fairy tales that was hard.
Speaker 1:Me out with facts, that was hard you think everything that he does, mine can't take me out with fairy tales. Oh my God. Facts only.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God Facts only.
Speaker 2:The Canadian accent is amongst one of the worst accents that has ever fell upon my ears.
Speaker 1:Hey, brody, it sounds so disgusting.
Speaker 2:It sounds like it shouldn't exist. It sounds like somebody made it up in a South Park.
Speaker 1:I was right I was right. I was right. I told y'all what was gonna happen and what was happening. You didn't listen. I told y'all this was a coordinated attack, and now drake has made a petition to let y'all niggas know what's really going on here. All right, so, ma'am, do you want to break down the information that has? Uh, this came out over the last few days with the two petitions drake has put out against.
Speaker 2:Not, not, kendrick lamar, you foolish people out there, umg and spotify yeah, so drake um is suing umg and spotify in a lawsuit that he recently filed. So there were two lawsuits. The first one is saying that, um, kendrick would not have gotten those streams without um umg making a deal with spotify. He's saying that, um, they conspired to fire employees at spotify that were loyal to drake and replace them with, uh, employees that were loyal to kendrick. He was saying that they were. Payola was happening. So payola is when you are paying the radio to play the song illegal illegally.
Speaker 2:Which um is illegal? Who said that's legal? The ftc or something like that? Um?
Speaker 1:or is it fcc?
Speaker 2:fcc. Yes, um, there was also a whistleblower, so the whistleblower is on.
Speaker 1:Was on academic stream allegedly allegedly, and he, well, he did he this is the whistleblower and he didn't say that in the document.
Speaker 2:That's why they just said it was on a popular podcast okay, but we know who it is that's why I said say allegedly okay, he went on academic stream and he said that he was paid five thousand dollars to bot it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hit the bots out.
Speaker 2:The bots were working overtime yes, so the file, what the um? The lawsuit was filled by um frozen moments, which is drake's company that's existed since 2009. It's been an LLC and it's the copyright holder of all of his videos and his music. And they're claiming that Drake suffered financial losses as a result of UMG and Spotify's coordinated attack to um boost kendrick's not like us streams, because there were um instances where people were like, hey, siri play certified lover boy and it would start playing not like us also.
Speaker 1:So also lauren from the breakfast club. She also did some additional reporting where she went into some more detail. We're saying not only was it just the inflating of the not like us music, but it was the fact that he was discussing which I said that he was doing. He was in discussions to have a new deal. He was doing he was in renegotiations. So what they were doing was actively putting money into someone or something that was going to harner him, harm him during uh renegotiations. They weren't taking into consideration that he was one of their biggest products.
Speaker 1:Again, I said this prior you can't be number 40, number you know 30 in the rankings and then go at the top five. Nigga, that doesn't make any sense. That doesn't happen anywhere, especially when I'm in my last. I don't have one more album left on my deal. This is what's being reported. He has one more album left on his deal. That means I am in constant renegotiation. At all times I am on my lame duck deal. So every anything I'll do with the with the label has to do with the label, is about me re uh negotiating with y'all. So this is what the main thing is talking about. A lot of y'all people over here saying, oh, why is? Why is he going to the? Why is he filing his paper? Why is he doing all this? I want you to know y'all niggas would have hated on Martin Luther King, because when niggas stand up and resist some shit, y'all niggas always have a problem. Y'all want niggas to sit down and y'all using that like a problem.
Speaker 2:After he has benefited from said system already.
Speaker 1:That's the best way to know about it.
Speaker 2:Universal Music Group is using payola and box to boost Kendrick's streams. Has Drake not been benefiting from this? Probably for God knows how long?
Speaker 1:To benefit from something is hard, you know, also to expose it, so I can't just so you.
Speaker 2:This is not a valiant effort that he's making for the goddamn people? Yes, it is. This is something that has stopped benefiting him, and now he's mad. And now he's throwing a goddamn bitch fit. He is not Martin Luther King. How did you just fix your goddamn mouth At?
Speaker 1:this fucking moment To say that fucking nonsense At this fucking moment. Oh my God, drake is Fred Hampton, I am taking a back and a fold and Kendrick is William O'Neal. I am taking a back and a fold. That's what you need to know. I am taking a back and a fold. Like I said, at this moment, right now, drake is Fred Hampton and Kendrick is William O'Neal. All right, that's exactly what's going on right now.
Speaker 2:What the fuck is this man saying out of his African-American mouth? That's what's going on.
Speaker 1:right now, his fully African-American mouth. We have one of the number one black artists.
Speaker 2:Regardless of what it looks like, this is a fully black man saying bullshit right now.
Speaker 1:That's fucking hate. But right now we have for the second time in our lives, we've seen one of the top artists actually go and fight the record label. I gotta take my cardigan off no, this is what we on some real shit here right now. No, we on some bullshit, no it's not.
Speaker 2:That's what we on. This is the problem here.
Speaker 1:This is the problem here is that you see a man fighting the label and the first thing you do is worry about how you feel about the man this is not how I feel about the man.
Speaker 2:This is the very simple matter of you're trying to make it seem like he is doing this, like it's for the people, like he's fighting injustice, when that's not what he's doing. He has the, the system that is in place he has stopped benefiting from, so now he's trying to change it. When other people were being fucked for god knows how long and he was benefiting from it, he didn't give a fuck, and now he's part of being fucked, and now he has a problem with it. He's not martin luther king.
Speaker 1:Because of that, you're insane no, because what you're kind of, what you're doing here, is saying, oh, while other people are getting fucked, there was a difference between getting fucked, man, my music is getting preferential treatment over your music. Granted, that's wrong because of the way our contracts are set up. No one's saying that, but we don't know one. If Drake is authorizing this, because of course he's not he's not the head person up there. The people who get money from Hold on, hold on, the people who get money from inflating someone's numbers, is the label, it's not the artist. So again, this is all on what the label wants to do in that regard.
Speaker 1:Now, if somebody in Drake's position can see, hey, this is what they can do, yes, they can pump you up, but then they can also call you a pedophile and then pump that up. So I can understand why I say hold up, just because this did good for me. This system needs to go down, because this is too much power for anybody. So, no, I do see drake as a noble. I do see this him being his sam cook moment. This is his moment, his michael jackson moment. Stop, no, that's no. Y'all don't want to see that you can?
Speaker 2:you can say michael jackson, because michael jackson did this exact thing, but don't compare him to any civil rights, goddamn leaders but I'm saying, y'all would hate this nigga if he was jackson literally also sued universal music group.
Speaker 1:So that he didn't.
Speaker 1:He sued sony he sued sony, okay, so that makes sense for you to compare him to that, I'll agree I'm comparing him to sam cook too, because sam cook was another person who was fighting for artists in a real way, and this is what y'all don't understand is kendrick. If he is complicit in this, he is complicit in stealing from his fellow artists, again something that he advocates. This integrity, for you are out. You are literally stealing from your fellow artists. They were over there changing songs. This is what drake's teams allege that they were changing. When you would request certified lover boy or request drake music, they were pushing you to kendrick's music. Yeah, they were. So then, that's a fucking problem that's stealing from people's music.
Speaker 2:That's something that allegedly was happening, like when you requested it on Siri or like I seen people doing videos about it when it was happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is that's what I mean, where this is insane, you're you're stealing from other artists there.
Speaker 2:Back a couple years ago, spotify users were demanding refunds because Drake's music was in gospel playlists, his music was in pop playlists, his music was in K-pop playlists. Drake was being forced on them and they didn't like it. So this happened in 2018 again.
Speaker 1:I don't see anything wrong with these, that, uh, this, that happening, I think there's nothing wrong with him pushing that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's, he's already. He's already benefited, like what let's talk about?
Speaker 1:hold on before you do that. I think that's a problem that we have when we criticize people taking a stand. You have to experience the privilege in a particular way to know where it's fundamentally wrong at, because nobody wants to hear the nigga who's at the bottom complaining about the niggas at the top, but it's somebody who's already at the top that's complaining about the top. That makes things change. You know how trump got in the office? Because he said oh, I'm snitching on how y'all do, I'm just listening. He said he acted like he was snitching on how all the rich people get through taxes yeah, and then he, and now he gave them more tax cuts.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying he galvanized people in a way.
Speaker 2:In that way because yeah, they made him feel like he was people, to make him feel like he didn't know. No, he didn't he didn't lie.
Speaker 1:He made it seem like he was telling a secret that everybody already knew. So this wasn't a lie. He just told dumb people something. Okay, that's a better word, but he told he told dumb people something that was common knowledge and then they felt like, oh, he's one of us.
Speaker 2:Because of that but oh, same thing with drake. He's suing universal music group for bots and streaming and like skewing playlists and has has the the have music podcasts not been talking about that for a long, a long time? Joe and them, they've been talking about um apple music and spotify playlisting and stuff like that, and then streaming and how, like that, fucks artists over and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So, like drake told us, he's suing them for something that everyone already knew was common knowledge, just like donald trump galvanized a bunch of stupid fucking people spewing a bunch of stuff that was already common knowledge yes, but this is this situation where he's showing how it can actually be used to hurt somebody.
Speaker 1:This is the first time.
Speaker 1:One of it was one of the important things because he was hurt by it well, one of it's not just that, it's one of the one of the important things in cases like this is that you have to show malice. So when you have, when there's there's no real way to show malice that someone's getting preferential treatment without some type of uns, you know, some unsidious or some sidious uh action behind it, so with this one, you can show hey, y'all are pushing my name, putting it through the mud, trying to bring down my value while renegotiate. So that's why this.
Speaker 2:I think this can all make sense in the long this is the first time that we've seen this with a beef 100%. So that's why I'm interested to see what the outcome of this specific lawsuit is going to be, because if Drake's lawyers can somehow prove that a diss led to him making less money, and then what financial payout he could possibly get from that, if they're able to prove that, then that's going to be something very interesting for us to, like um, follow along with yeah, I don't think it's going to be necessarily a payout for him.
Speaker 1:No, he wants money. I think so. No, I think what he's doing right now is he's putting evidence in, because this isn't a lawsuit.
Speaker 2:He's just putting like essentially he's just putting evidence into discovery. Yeah, yeah, he's putting evidence into discovery so he can so they can finalize the universal music group would be stopped from like deleting emails and messages and coordination and like transfers and wires and stuff like that. So this is this is allowing him to.
Speaker 1:I think what he's really doing is just putting them on the spot. They don't really want this to go to court. He probably doesn't really want this to go to court. He wants to either. What?
Speaker 2:do you think is going to?
Speaker 1:happen. I think one or two things is going to happen. Either they're going to try to take this to court and we'll see what the courts decide, or he's going to get that new deal that he was trying to get before he turned 40. Like I said, what the biggest? That was his biggest plan in there. I think that's what's either going to happen. You you already see in his documents they said they were willing to throw kendra lamar under the bus, so they proved right there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they said that. Um, they's like you need.
Speaker 1:You should go after him instead of us yeah but again, as a real nigga drake understands, this isn't about me and him going at it about that, because he wouldn't have did that if y'all wouldn't put the battery in his back y'all put the battery in his back to drake for a long time, but you it's.
Speaker 2:It was never been shots back and you're right you're right, but there's.
Speaker 1:It was never beneficial for him to just try to destroy drake. They made it beneficial for him to try to destroy drake I feel like kendrick has always been that type of nigga though but he's coming, all the niggas on top control yes, that's not trying to destroy a nigga, that's, that's keeping it hip-hop. He went and destroyed this nigga the cuffs like you, we this a totally different way.
Speaker 1:You know how like we'll see artists or people that we listen to on podcasts and they won't talk about a certain person just because of whatever relationship they have, or they won't go as hard for a person. Remember that when rory said that, uh, the people in in the media in new york had a code where they didn't talk about each other, like, that's what I'm saying, which is different, where when someone tells me, I can take the cuffs off now there's no restraints on me now.
Speaker 2:There's a different level of vitriol I'm going to come with. Do you think UMG was like trying to stop him from dissing Drake before?
Speaker 1:No, I think he knew that if he went at their top dog there would be repercussions for it so, like what happened that made him get the green light, did they come to him specifically?
Speaker 2:I think they gave him an okay, they told him something that explained that, hey, you're gonna be alright see, my thing is, if that was the case, then he he might have been trying to do that from the beginning, because why would they be like, okay, it's okay for you to go at him now, when he wasn't trying to go at him before? Well, he just said he was he was, he wasn't it was like a little sublime. That's what I'm saying there's a diff.
Speaker 1:You have to put it in perspective. There's a difference. I can take a shot at you and, if not, say your name, not do any of that, and then when I get the okay, now I'm saying hey, drake, I heard him like you. You heard you like him young. That's.
Speaker 2:There's a difference between that now you better never gonna sell a block.
Speaker 1:There's a difference in how I'm being allowed to attack you, and you know that when there are certain people in the room who now they're giving you the understanding that I'm on your side, I want to see you win. I'm giving you this nod and he's not getting that now.
Speaker 2:UMG. Y'all did not have to do all that. We was going to play that song. We was playing that song everywhere in real life. Everywhere I went for that like couple weeks, I heard that song. Everyone was talking about that song. All of my friends. We were playing that song on repeat. We would play it and then play it again and then play it again. That song went platinum in my car alone. Y'all didn't have to. It wasn't in playlist. I searched it. I added it to my library personally, like there was no reason that y'all needed to do that. It caught fire, fucking regardless it.
Speaker 1:There is a reason. That's one of the most catchy.
Speaker 2:This is this songs like in the history of hip-hop there is a reason why it wasn't the worst.
Speaker 1:There's a reason, probably the worst. There's a reason why they had to do that, though, in their line of work and their business. When you're up there, there is no we want to hope this happens. There is no where we want to make, where we're trying to hope something like this happened.
Speaker 2:No, we read, we ensure that this happened I get that, but it was gonna happen regardless shit.
Speaker 1:That's remember I was telling you earlier that's what happened with the first presidential election in this country. Yeah, they rigged that shit to make sure it happened the way, even though they didn't have to yeah, but yeah, I didn't have to do that they in regards to them, they in their mind.
Speaker 1:they have to do that because the only thing that's important is the outcome that they want. So, no, no, we're going to give the X amount of dollars, we're going to give the cuts to Spotify so that when they push the music out, we know it's going to be everywhere, and that's where it's important.
Speaker 2:Do you want to get into the second lawsuit that Drake dropped? It was just the defamation.
Speaker 1:To me it's just more him piggybacking off of what he did. The first one, it's a defamation lawsuit. That's more in line with what was said, yeah. Essentially, the first one says hey, y'all were inflating this song. And then the second one is you're inflating this song to. Then, you know, have a defamation Defame my character yeah defame my character.
Speaker 2:Make me look harder to negotiate negotiate my future contracts with y'all. So yeah, because that seems like their whole thing is they're trying to not pay him a lot of money when he renegotiates. Yeah, that's. That's what it was they're trying to not have it be the biggest contract, the lebron of all contracts or whatever the fuck in music and um pay that man like see, but no, this is where they to worry about.
Speaker 1:This is why I don't think it's gonna go to court, because if he wins that court case, not only does he get the money you know, potentially the money he could get out of that, then he also still gets his own music to push out and sell after this win. Because that's you know, that's when they took out mike was after he won all his cases and he was about to go on tour again.
Speaker 2:So I mean that's what has been a conversation too, like if Drake decided to like go like a more independent route.
Speaker 1:The thing about the independent route.
Speaker 2:I think Drake should do that regardless. I think that's what you need to do, sir.
Speaker 1:The independent route sounds cool when you're okay with making hundreds of thousands, but when you're playing with hundreds of millions, you need that kind of infrastructure. It's just you. You can never hire enough people to be able to do that at the level that they've done it for years even if you're drake yeah, they have the relationships, because drake can't speak to everybody to make everything happen, so you have to hire people to have relationships.
Speaker 1:So if these people that you have have a difficulty getting those relationships, you may not get the best result like you would with the label. The label is going to make sure you get prime selection. They make sure you're on the right places at the right time. That's going to be in line with other people who are doing business, so that, just like with Kendrick we've seen you did the Not Like Us. Now you're on the Super Bowl people pushing your product now here and there. You've seen all these ads with them, so it's all a part of it. This nigga called a man a pedophile and we got McDonald's saying honey mustard Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2:The NFL too.
Speaker 1:It's insane. It's insane.
Speaker 2:Mustard.
Speaker 1:Mustard, that's insane.
Speaker 2:It's so fun. We got anything else we got to get to, or no, that's it. I wanted to keep this concise. There were a couple things that we might could talk about, but it's okay.
Speaker 1:We want to thank y'all for doing a special episode with us.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, we have another special episode coming oh, I mean, well, we don't know yet.
Speaker 1:Hopefully we gotta hopefully yeah, manifesting we're just gonna, we'll wait till I deserve it all, we deserve it all, period oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:But again, I want to thank y'all for that, for listening to this special episode with us. Uh, I want to make sure y'all all have a amazing holiday. Appreciate just. Thank y'all for listening to this special episode with us. I want to make sure y'all all have an amazing holiday. Appreciate just everything y'all have been with us in regards to our growth and getting to where we're at. We're nowhere close to where we want to be at, but y'all have been helping us so far getting there. We just really appreciate that.
Speaker 2:And then Farrah If you consistently watch. We absolutely love you so much and we appreciate you.
Speaker 1:And just stick with us, please. And I do want to say I'm so thankful for you and all of your hard work that you've done, that you put into this. Uh, just seeing you know your energy grow and your enthusiasm and ambition grow. I just appreciate so much for everything that you've done you baby you've done a really great job and you've been so amazing at this, so you too, babe all right, you're listening to talk f and f tv.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna do none of that extra stuff this time because it's a special episode. Uh, there's still gonna be episode 69, so we're freaky ass pod, yeah, but uh, let them know what they can do for us baby follow us on all of the social media at talkfnftv um on twitter, facebook, instagram, tiktok, all of the things Please like.
Speaker 2:Debate. Debate with us in the comments. I want to debate with y'all. I'll actually reply if y'all not being disrespectful as fuck. I love you guys. Bye.
Speaker 1:Just for the record, y'all saw how I just said I was thankful for her and she didn't say anything to me.
Speaker 2:But we out of here. Oh my God.