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Remy MA is MAD Papoose CHEATED Back, Jayz CAUGHT UP in DIDDY CASE, & 50 Exposes Drake's OPPs- Talk FNF TV
What if the public's obsession with celebrity drama is a reflection of our own identities? We unravel this provocative question while examining the intricate dance between public perception and personal choices in our latest episode. With celebrities like Drake and Jennifer Lopez at the center, we critique society's tendency to scrutinize others through media and podcasting. From the fiery Twitter controversies surrounding race and body image to the drama-filled lives of celebrity couples like Papoose and Remy Ma, we explore how quickly these narratives escalate and ripple through various communities.
Picture a whirlwind of scandal and speculation as we tackle the allegations involving high-profile celebrities like Diddy and Jay-Z. Justice and accountability hang in the balance as we scrutinize the credibility of narratives shaped by legal battles and media sensationalism. Our exploration includes a candid discussion on the role of attorneys like Tony Busby and the power dynamics they navigate in the public eye. Meanwhile, we lighten the mood with a playful investigation of Drake's alleged list of "ops," blending humor with an engaging look into celebrity antics.
Shifting gears, we celebrate the richness of black sitcoms from the '70s to the '90s and the comedic genius of Jamie Foxx. Yet, we don't shy away from more serious themes, addressing the portrayal of sex work in media and the complex world of adult entertainment. Our conversation veers into geopolitics and financial strategy, drawing parallels between historical and modern economic shifts. As we challenge gender stereotypes and encourage personal empowerment, we invite you to join us on this thought-provoking journey through the maze of societal expectations and personal identity.
To me, this is not anything to feel bad for her about. You made this choice. You could have stopped, but her team is horrible. I will say that I don't blame the men who are doing this because I'll say this A lot of y'all say, oh, the men who are waiting in line for this are disgusting. A lot of men don't have access to a woman who looks like her.
Speaker 2:Drake definitely hit April. Yeah, drake hit April. We figured out the mystery, mystery solved, it's over. We got it. Drake hit april.
Speaker 1:Yeah she let she let fizz hit, she let drake hit 100 it says 2000. This happened in 2000, so they're trying to say that's jennifer lopez.
Speaker 2:That's the claims that people are trying to make that the woman who's filing is jennifer lopez oh the extra woman celebrity b oh, so I have a guest too, who mary j blige oh my god, she did. You made women look bad and then you wasn't. You didn't do your the way you were supposed to do your, and now these niggas could sit here on these mics talking about how, uh, it was a bad for papoose to hold you down, bitch. I don't like this. I feel like this is just the CIA trying to spark unrest in the back community again.
Speaker 3:They sent.
Speaker 1:Cooking with Kaya. You think Cooking with Kaya is an agent.
Speaker 2:Yes, we both watched Jamie's special.
Speaker 1:It wasn't funny.
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Speaker 1:There's a civil war going on internally on the Internet right now as we speak.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's been going on for days. I thought it was going to end. Then y'all brought the Indians in. So, if y'all not aware, built like aican. War is going on right now on twitter. There was a woman who tweeted out she was dissing another black woman, which is hilarious, is how this all started yeah, she was calling another black woman built like a mexican, because she wore some little.
Speaker 1:You know the new thought outfit of the month and it was those that um white crop top and the leopard print panties you can't tell me them, not panties and then, like she didn't have I guess she didn't have the curves for it- no, because there are certain things as a like skinny girl with no ass that you can't wear.
Speaker 2:You would never catch me dead in that.
Speaker 1:So like know your silhouette. Essentially she got the the box allegations and it sparked off probably one of the biggest like cultural wars I've seen on twitter in a while and that's crazy, because there are cultural wars on twitter on a regular basis. Yeah, but this was like intercult, like this was like two different cultures going at it. Like the mexican women were posting a lot of y'all weren't doing yourself any justice, yeah there was.
Speaker 2:A lot of y'all were proving our point. A lot of y'all were squared up and y'all didn't.
Speaker 1:And then a lot of them tried to hide it by doing the one step. Come on, man, y'all know all the girls know the angles like y'all not fooling nobody and then they got. Then they got messy. They started bringing in the big women, started bringing in lizzo roly oh, I didn't see that yeah, they started being mean and disrespectful.
Speaker 2:It got crazy how'd the big girls get in?
Speaker 1:it. They started throwing shots. I said y'all look like resputia it again. This is this happened. Wow, I didn't see none of this. I saw all of it. And then the indians got in.
Speaker 2:They started dissing us too how do indians get in it?
Speaker 1:because they started dissing, uh, the black men. Because there was like a typical good-looking black man and then an ugly or a typical good-looking uh indian man, and the indian man was just a lighter skinned indian man and the black man was like some ai image that looked like some primate and all that stuff honestly.
Speaker 2:We know there's a lot of self-hate that goes on in the indian community and y'all prefer whiter skin over the darker skin. Just stay out of it. We're not even talking to y'all for real.
Speaker 1:I don't know how y'all got in it. It got bad man. So a lot of race wars going on, built like a mexican war is what I'm calling that. So I mean we gotta. I just hate how it started. That's all we.
Speaker 2:We gotta do better in regards to like we shooting at each other and then now we giving access for everybody else to shoot, because that's literally what happened yeah, I mean we, we did throw shade like the, the mexicans did catch a stray while we was shooting at ours, and then they was like, how'd I get in it? And now they was, they was in it.
Speaker 1:So I feel like it was kind of whoever, whoever's fault as a man who's not involved in this at all, like getting the pictures was dope, though. Like seeing the pictures on the timeline felt like I won yeah, but they were built like mexicans some of them weren't now.
Speaker 2:Some of them was breaking a lot like there were some anomalies the ones that I saw that weren't look like they got work done yeah, shout out to them.
Speaker 1:They're not built like a mexican, no more yeah, but you was genetically, it's like alternative mexican.
Speaker 2:Like you were alt mexican yeah, like I don't know, they probably went to a spanish-speaking country to get it done this, so maybe they built like a dominican the dominicans be built right.
Speaker 1:I think that's where you, if you do get surgery, that's that has to kind of be the new rule. You're not built like a black person anymore. If you went to the DR, you're built like a Dominican. If you went to Texas now, you're built like a Texan.
Speaker 2:I don't like that and I don't think you're going to get that off. You can't get that All right we'll try, you go to.
Speaker 1:Florida. Now you're Floridian.
Speaker 2:Nope, nobody wants to do that.
Speaker 1:You're young, everybody wants to do that Young Miami now, once you get the surgery.
Speaker 2:That's just what happens.
Speaker 1:That's what happens, all right.
Speaker 3:Let's get to the beginning of the show. If you having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one. I got the rat patrol on the cat patrol.
Speaker 1:I think it's a little different now.
Speaker 3:I was the one to make sure my casket's closed Rat. Critics say he, he was trying to tell us the song was a prophecy. Okay, true, whoa.
Speaker 1:He thought he was doing something when he got the little rock beat behind it. He thought he was Eating with this. He was like Ooh, rock beat behind it. Yeah, he thought he was eating with this. He was like ooh.
Speaker 4:Zip Ram.
Speaker 2:Oh, these niggas not going to know what to do?
Speaker 1:What's the white nigga that always be judging the music? What's the white nigga everybody listen to when they judge?
Speaker 4:their music.
Speaker 3:Got all the hair here, rick Rubin.
Speaker 1:This was definitely a Rick Rubin like oh, this is it.
Speaker 3:You're going to change the game with this one, Sean.
Speaker 2:This song is only like a thing culturally because of the hook he ate the hook up. I got nine problems, but a bitch ain't one.
Speaker 1:If this was on a different beat, but then also this was on the Black Album, right, I think this was on the Black Album.
Speaker 2:This is supposed to be like his last album too jay-z said there were so many albums that were supposed to be his last album. This is when it started 55 in the 54.
Speaker 3:uh-huh. The reason is that by the time you've been lying for decades, my brother used to love to play this part. He'd be like this is how I feel like you be doing it.
Speaker 1:You be out here talking to the cops like this, yeah.
Speaker 3:I ain't past the bar, but I know a little bit enough that you want to legally search my shit. I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one my shit, they did. I can just see this, like with this shit going on on the bigs.
Speaker 1:And they just like yeah, jay.
Speaker 4:Everybody just riding Cove at this moment.
Speaker 1:Oh man, you changing this one. This is it. Nigga you. The king of hip hop, biggie could never Pop could never. Could you just imagine the ego in him At this time when this is?
Speaker 3:playing. Yeah, definitely A nigga like myself had the strong arm, a hoe, and this is not a whole winter since I had been a pussy, but a pussy having no goddamn sense trying to push me. I try to ignore him. Talk to the Lord, pray for him. But some fools just love to perform. You know the type loud as a motorbike, but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight and the only thing that's gonna happen is I'ma get the clapping and he and his boys gonna be yapping to the captain and they're gonna try. I just think about this. It's like a revival.
Speaker 3:After 9-11 happened.
Speaker 1:We had that weird 2002 year and then this song come out the next year and it just felt like we got another chance at it.
Speaker 3:We ain't lost. Make sure he don't copyright it so we don't have to talk over it.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, hey, you can watch that you are now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host Absurd Rhetoric. And I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Reality.
Speaker 2:Hi guys.
Speaker 1:We're back for another installment of our amazing show. I think we've been doing great.
Speaker 2:Episode 71.
Speaker 1:We're stepping it up, man. They didn't think we was going to make it to 50.
Speaker 2:We definitely made it.
Speaker 1:Too bad, the 50th episode went the way it did, but it is what it is yeah.
Speaker 1:It happens, happens to the best of us. We're going to stay in the New York area, way it did, but it is what it is. Yeah, it happens, happens to the best of us. So, yeah, let's, we're gonna stay in the new york area, but we're gonna start with remy ma first, because this is a debacle in the highest of orders. A black family has seen the highest highs that you could say for some and now we are witnessing the lowest lows definitely yeah it's.
Speaker 1:It just got nasty like and it. It was funny too because we was going to record the night before and we ended up not so now we woke up this morning and this shit was everywhere. So if y'all not familiar Remy Ma, who's married to Palpoose, we talked about their relationship and what was going on in regards to her. And Easy to Block Captain, she comes out because she's upset.
Speaker 2:That's such a horrible name. It is I hate you rap battle niggas names.
Speaker 1:It's been bad, though but no, it's come out to be that. Uh, pal poos got his look back and I, I just want to say shout out to you, big doll I'm just glad you cheated back.
Speaker 2:So now morally, y'all both in the wrong. Am I toxic for that?
Speaker 1:I don't think there's toxic, I mean you went down to hell with her.
Speaker 2:So now you're not this like upstanding guy who who stayed and wrote out her bid for her and blah, blah, blah and then just got cheated on.
Speaker 1:No, because then you cheated too Respectfully the way that he cheated was all garbage. No, no, respectfully, the way that he cheated was fly to like it wasn't like he, because I didn't see this, so it was Clarissa Shields.
Speaker 1:She's a boxer, she's also married, so she has something to lose. It wasn't like he was just bringing in some random person who don't got nothing to lose, who can have this exposed in a rap battle in front of everybody, so to make me look like a crazy clown, while you sitting there looking ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. What is he talking about? No, you got this guy. Then pal poos comes out with this long instagram post. I don't think we should read the whole thing, because did you read it, though I?
Speaker 1:did read it, but I just don't think okay, what was?
Speaker 1:the gist of it. Essentially he talked about how it wasn't the reason he wasn't, uh, mad at easy to black captain for sleeping with his wife. It was because he dapped him up and then slept with his wife. So essentially saying, bro, you showed me like we was cool, like he wasn't on, no shit like that. And then you did behind, we went behind my back, which again I respect, like papoose. This is the best way to respond to getting cheated on like top five all time, like there's nobody right now who probably he's bodying this shit to cheat back. Yeah, the way that he did it, the fact that he hit dude, he showed dude what's up, dude looking he hit him yeah, he said he knocked him out.
Speaker 1:Oh, we talked about that. He said he put hands on him and he openly admit like yeah, bro, I punched you because you shook my hand and he slept. My wife and I can only respect, man, how power poos is moving this remy ma character. That's fair. She playing nasty, remi is playing really nasty well, yeah, we've been, you that man.
Speaker 1:She out here, not even just the way she was moving with, but now she's out here exposed. She's exposed the girl clarissa, put her on blast like she ain't a married woman. Then she's making claims that power poos is putting hands on her. You can't play. You can't play the male role in the women role. You can't cheat like a nigga and then try to get a scapegoat like you, a lady.
Speaker 2:That's not fair I don't like the thought of domestic violence and whatever's going on, I don't know, but I don't like the. I don't. I don't like the thought of papoose she's trying to muddy my man name like I feel like he can't beat your ass though that's what I'm trying to say like I feel like papu, like he can't domestic violence her. Come on now. That's crazy. I just feel like kendrick physically. He can't domestic violence her like I feel like she would.
Speaker 1:She would fuck him up too like so what you're saying, I'm gonna be clear. I'm gonna be clear. What you're saying is, it's not just domestic violence if your girl is bigger than you. I'm just trying, I'm trying to understand. I thought he had a little like that.
Speaker 2:I thought he had a little height I don't like the way you put it, but that is what I said. I thought he was a little bit bigger, like I don't know I don't know. In my head I just imagine her to be bigger than him.
Speaker 1:I might be wrong, that's that's a funny thing to bring the image to, and the fact that buddy looked just like papoose doesn't help. Like easy looks like kind of like a clone of him, like well, she has a type if they was to do like a have all the guys a lineup for criminals like they would be on the same, like phenotype. So that's what I'm saying. She got a type but she made my man look bad. He out here held you down and then now you're trying to muddy his name in light of him, trying to get his get back she did.
Speaker 2:You made women look bad and then you wasn't. You didn't do your shit the way you were supposed to do your shit, and now these niggas can sit here on these mics talking about how, uh, it was a bad for papoose to hold you down.
Speaker 1:Bitch, I don't like this man, it's just, she ain't moving, right you?
Speaker 2:should have cheated better if he was gonna cheat and then clarissa got her lick back.
Speaker 1:Clarissa told everybody you got two boyfriends, so why are you mad at papoose for get his shit off? I mean we knew she was getting her shit off. I'm just saying they was like when they pulled up clarissa's uh picture when she was with her husband at the beginning of the year when they got engaged or whatever like. This is nasty work, man, this is nasty all around. I don't like to see these black relationships go through this like, do both of the couples have children?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if her Clarissa and buddy have kids okay. I didn't see any when I was looking at her page, but I could have skimmed over it. But no, just even feel bad for you know, for they little ones going through this. Ain't nobody want to have all this, with your parents all open on the internet talking about what's going on yeah and and if they selling the album after this remy or or pal puja, wrong for that.
Speaker 1:Y'all can't be out here doing the love and hip-hop for the album release yeah, they need to.
Speaker 2:One of them need to release some shit. I mean you might as well use this. They on shows and stuff they doing tv? Are they doing shows? I know are they on love and hip-hop still?
Speaker 1:not anymore, because I don't think they on love and hip-hop anymore. I thought they had their own show for a little bit no I could have sworn. They had their show for a little.
Speaker 2:Well, if they did, it's not on anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's probably not on now, but I know Remy been jumping around doing you know she's been moving and she's been working with the she was on that one episode of Rhythm and Flow, but that's all I've seen her on and she's been working with the battle raps too.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, she's been doing that yeah she's been doing that heavier.
Speaker 1:So I mean, that's another world. I just to me, this is what them using this as something to sell, like a battle or just anything. But I just the way it looks like you can't put my man name through the mud talking about the workers had to call the police because you was gonna. You was all on top of me, like come on that's why that ain't supposed to happen.
Speaker 2:Man who was on top of who papoose?
Speaker 1:was on top of and they had to call the police to get the workers who were working at on the house because I guess they was getting their pool redone or something, and they got into it and he was on top of her.
Speaker 2:He even jumped on top of her ass and then they had to call the police. Oh, on top of Remy, yeah, oh, okay, that was the story.
Speaker 1:She said that I saw that people was posting.
Speaker 2:So that could be. It looked like it was real.
Speaker 1:I just don't think that's cool, especially if that's real, because, like, what are y'all doing there? You already didn't expose the girl?
Speaker 2:It's just messy as fuck. It's past love and hip hop. At this point.
Speaker 1:But you can't do that After you got your card read Like everybody know what's going on.
Speaker 2:Just because I cheated Means, I can't tell people you beating my ass.
Speaker 1:Not after you try to. You only doing it because I cheated on you back. That's the only reason you bring but you still beating my ass, though I don't think we don't know if he was beating her ass. She's making the claim that he is.
Speaker 2:We can't just yeah, but let's say allegedly that he beaten her ass. Regardless of if I cheated and then you cheated back, I can't tell people you beating my ass you can.
Speaker 1:But the reason that you're doing it is fucked up, because you're just doing it because I cheated back on you and I'm not trying to be on no fuck shit with you, no more. That's the reason why you ain't saying it, because you want to tell people I'm a bad person. You just want to do it because now you didn't got your car pulled back but you still gave me the ammunition by beating my ass.
Speaker 2:Why was you beating my ass?
Speaker 1:because really that nigga can't take it all like. You can't just be doing people the way you want to and then think that they won't react like that's what I'm trying to say. You can't be acting, you can't treat people a certain kind of way and not think they're going to react at some point. And if you out here violating this man, y'all, even if y'all got an open marriage, and you letting it be known to people and people out here making an allegation like no, you did, they say that no, I'm just okay, I'm just opening that up to be like any possibility.
Speaker 1:You still wrong. I was about to say that's crazy, Because you letting it get out and you letting people know they been.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can imagine that they have some different thing going on in their relationship, Like Remy said I was in jail, I was with you, and then I was in jail and then I came back out with you. She said I want some variety.
Speaker 1:See, but I mean that's cool, but you can't then be reckless with it and have folks in my face that I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, they're definitely not. I'm not aware of what's going on I'm mad at her too.
Speaker 1:Show it, show it, call it out her name. I'm just playing on that.
Speaker 2:She would shoot you no, she would definitely whoop my ass yeah, she would.
Speaker 1:She would shoot you, she's definitely a shooter but no, we got to hold you accountable. Remy man, it's not. You're not playing fair. If jay-z making the rules now, we can get into that in just a moment. You just call the criminal. If he beat your ass, then call the cops. Don't go on the internet and be like, oh he ain't really that good of a nigga. He bought me up.
Speaker 2:Like, don't do that I just feel like he still did it. Press charges like if he did it, then you can do whatever you want after that but with the information that he did it fair.
Speaker 1:But again, in context, the reason why you're doing it is not because you want to let people know you're a victim and you know you got this abuser out and about. You're just doing it because he got his lick back and he ain't fucking with you like that, no more you can't put your hands on me and cheat on me like you. Gotta choose one after you cheat it first though. Yes, because the, because we know remy got a mouth on her like if, if I cheat and right and like hypothetically in a very in a hypothetically in a very toxic situation.
Speaker 2:I cheat. You can't cheat back and beat me up.
Speaker 1:You got to choose one. But my thing is this too hold on, we don't know him. She said it's too much on my plate. He said he jumped on her. That don't mean he was beating her up. Why do you need to be on top of me? You could have been. She could have swung first we don't know what.
Speaker 2:What does she give you?
Speaker 1:does she give you vibes that she would swing first?
Speaker 2:because to me, I think, potentially swing on her man maybe not swing, in general definitely hey, she cheating on nigga.
Speaker 1:He ain't that much of her man after that. If y'all not being, if y'all in an open relationship, the biggest thing is being open. So if he don't know that you fucking with this nigga and then you got him around this nigga shaking this nigga hand, you are violating every that is crazy though that is violating every code.
Speaker 1:Again, that's where people be misunderstanding what cheating is. Cheating is not just sleeping with somebody else. Is your partner not being aware what's going on, if you like? Hey, baby met this girl the other night. We about to go out and you know I'm saying about a popper at the hotel and your wife say be home by 11. There ain't no cheating happen. There ain't no cheating happen. Boundaries have been set up, information has been exchanged. So I'm a, I'm a hope for the best because, like I said, they're all young ones involved, so that sucks for them. Nobody wants to have their parents out and about because that's just fodder for, like the nigga that's hating honestly, when I woke up and I saw the news, I was like you just like to see women be diabolical yes but it don't even no context matters to you, because she started it
Speaker 2:she did I don't care, she, she jump kicked. First I was like, yes, he's, he's, he's in hell with her. Like if you join me in hell, you need to do in the morally depravable what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1:Deprivable In the morally shaky character that behavior that I've been engaging in, and then you do it too, oh, now baby, we both. We can only blame Jada for this. Now, we both.
Speaker 2:Jada started a horrible culture out here. Now I'm not on my baby, baby, please forgive me.
Speaker 1:Now I'm on my you, daughters of jada, need like we, we, even now, even stevens see what you let happen will. This is your fault. Honestly, at the end of the day, this is will smith fault they were in an open relationship, though she was just a little, but you let her violate her you.
Speaker 2:She brought the nigga too we ain't gonna get into this, you don't think that he he never brought nobody to the but he brought. No, I don't think he approved her oh I thought the red carpet yeah I think he probably did I don't think he approved of that.
Speaker 1:I think that's what was a lot of contentions. Like you're being public with our son's friend.
Speaker 2:That's weird yeah, all right let's get to this. She had a full boyfriend.
Speaker 1:That was crazy, all right let's get into this jay-z shit now. So jay-z has been the king of just like how to move properly. You know what's what's the what's the lyric, how it goes? How do I move in a room full of vultures?
Speaker 2:show him how to move in a room full of vultures.
Speaker 1:So he's the person who's been able to show this to us, so unfortunately, he has now been brought up in the diddy case. Now I from what I've gathered, he's not being sued by them at this time. This is just opening them up to potentially being sued. Yeah, and it's a civil suit. What happened was this is amendment to the Diddy case one of the allegations where they had noted that there were two other celebrities in the room and has now they have chosen to name one of those celebrities as Sean Carter Jay-Z.
Speaker 1:This looks crazy like when you read it on face value. If you take it on face value and you read that story, that is one of the craziest things that you could ever happen to you. I don't care about it being early 2000, 13 year olds was on the street all the time. Whoop-de-woop, nah, bro, what happened here? Don't even like. Like again. If we're just taking it on face value, that is one of the most insane things that could ever you could ever experience in that kind of way you mean what the, the young woman experienced?
Speaker 2:yeah, what she claimed that she experienced yeah, so allegedly they, she the suit says that, um, she was going to like a vma party. Her parents didn't know where she was. Well, she was trying to get into the VMA. She couldn't get there. She was talking to this guy who happened to be Diddy's driver. He was like oh, I can get you into this party. You're exactly like what Diddy likes and what he looks for. She ends up going to the party. There's a lot going on. There's drug use rampantly that she sees.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know how she gets into the room, but she's well, she's drugged she said, she got tired yeah, and then she's drugged and she's in a bedroom with diddy and allegedly, uh, jay-z and somebody, a third celebrity, who's a woman who they list as celebrity b yeah, I thought it was the other way around, but yeah yeah, so, um, and they, they basically take turns doing terrible things to her and then she claims then that she fights off.
Speaker 1:Her salience runs out of the room naked like nobody says anything to her, bothers or anything. She puts her clothes on outside and then runs to a convenience store, gas station and calls her father and the woman at the registry.
Speaker 2:It gives her a phone to call her dad and essentially that's all I was able to gather yeah so first off I want to she also said that as a result of this assault that like she's mentally not been okay, um, she hasn't been able to maintain relationships, jobs, her life is basically a mess. She's a shut-in, she doesn't like leaving her home and she has basically gotten ptsd from this.
Speaker 1:So that's why now she's suing, because her entire life has been basically taken away by this assault allegedly, and both uh, sean p, diddy combs and sean carter have both denied any involvement in this and have stated these are false claims. I do want to kind of go into and just say, first and foremost, I want justice to be served. I have spoken about Diddy and Jay-Z in ways that I feel like if they are bad men, they need to be handled. Yeah, 100 percent, they need to be thrown away. We need to shame them in our culture and push up better examples of people, of who we want to see that represent us. I will have to say, though, after reading this and going over this and watching different videos I watch court tv and stuff. It's just a stretch, man so it's the.
Speaker 1:The biggest thing that I've seen that makes me question it a little bit is the the law firm that's filing that added him to the suit and the lawyer who's doing it too because, there's been some back and forth between him and jay-z and then he has, like extortion, an extortion background yeah, we'll get into that in just a moment, but I just want to talk about this story because, again, I don't want to feel like I'm shaming a witness. I'm just being honest and just how I'm listening to this and what it sounds like. So I can understand, being a young kid trying to get into the vmas, but the one of the notes that they said was this was on her bucket list.
Speaker 2:Come on who to go to the vmas or yeah, 13 bucket list.
Speaker 1:You're thinking about bucket list stuff at 13, like come on, let's I mean they.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was like on her list of things to do, but turn a phrase or something that's cool, but yeah, say that a 13 year old had a bucket list come on, but I don't think that, like it was a bucket list and like the very like say what the words that were specific term of the thing is like things you want to do before you are about to die.
Speaker 1:And that phrase was used multiple times, so that's why I'm calling that out.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And what else. So then you go by yourself yeah that doesn't to me. You're going to the vma. Why you're not gonna have one other friend who's gonna want to go with you?
Speaker 4:I, that was also and then you said a friend just drops you off so you don't like.
Speaker 1:I'm saying I know you, that person doesn't need to be named, but there's so many people who are just npc characters in this story that it just, oh, his driver told me to come back around. This time. It's like, well, what did you do that entire time? Like I want to know now what was going on. You waited throughout the whole vmas outside like where does your parents?
Speaker 1:he didn't have to go, uh, somewhere and then come back to like that doesn't. To me, logistically, that just sounds weird, like he came back to where you was at and brought me I'm saying it, just that just sounds weird. Then you go to this place, nobody, you don't say anybody who you saw, like nothing that you can give us to be like, oh, this person was here, that person was you said celebrities, they she probably did, but they're like redacted yeah, which? Is well.
Speaker 1:I didn't see a redacted for anybody saying that they were redacted for other than celebrity b besides the ones that you said that did the assault but no, I'm just saying like to me it just it just sounds so, it just it's not clear of a story and I'm not saying that you had to be the perfect victim for me. I'm please don't take that from me. I'm just deciphering this from the information that's being presented. I do want good faith and, you know, interrogations to be done, a good faith investigation to be done. I'm not trying to say this person is lying, I'm just saying this story just then. How long from the time that you uh, got away from them, walked around, went outside or stuff, that they at no point think that maybe we just raped this girl, maybe we should stop her from leaving. That never came about. Nobody sent anybody to look for you while you were at this gas station like but, like at these parties, if this was happening regularly, allegedly like.
Speaker 2:How do they silence everybody who they do this to?
Speaker 1:but for this to be the way that they describe this.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like, and then I do believe that she did sign something that she then eventually realized was an nda she believed to be an nda. Yeah to me I mean, she could never, so I feel like they probably thought that they covered their basis and they were basis and they weren't gonna like go chase after her after they did that to me that because also it. It also is indicative of like. If that did happen, then they were flagrant and confident enough to know that like that's that wasn't shit gonna happen.
Speaker 1:That's the implication, because, from what I'm seeing, that would be the only implication, because an nda doesn't protect you from a crime, no, so if she just felt like you violated, her if she went straight to the police station.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would have been a completely different.
Speaker 1:So that's what I'm saying, like it doesn't make sense. They would let her go. Her being erratic, her saying like she's very, being very clear, at least for us, in her story, that she didn't want this to happen and she's not making claims of other people being around to try to, you know, coerce her and anything. You were just drugged up and they took advantage of you. You got away and they just let you like that.
Speaker 2:Just to me that doesn't add up yeah, and then also we I it's so weird because you always we want to believe the victim and we don't want a victim blame at all, but we're also trying to break it down. What I also think about is like what, how much drugs were in her system and what type of drugs were in her system and how she was able to, like get away coherently and remember her dad's phone number to call, like how yeah, because it wasn't cell phone days yeah you had to call you to remember you know I can say you're right.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of stuff like that, where it's just it's not adding up, and then people can even go into the thing, or what father would you know react like that, seeing their daughter out and about at this time and not go to the post?
Speaker 2:I mean I not immediately go to the hospital or the police or something like.
Speaker 1:That's one thing I can understand, though, because if he's just think about this in my brain, if I take her to the hospital, then they say something happened, they got called police. Please don't ask me what I did. I'm the police, I'm the person who got to know what I'm saying. I didn't know where she was at.
Speaker 1:That's negligence I think it's very yeah, but with a 13 year old, like it happens, sometimes too, like they just sneak out people we also got to take into consideration, like people don't have a really clear understanding of the law, or a lot of people have fear that it's gonna be retribution on them too, especially when you're the guardian. So I can see in a certain situation where it's like bro, I fucked up big as long as I let the police know, this can be bigger on me yeah, because they can't find is already protected.
Speaker 2:I'm, they're back in my hands, so I mean I can just understand where he's like.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I don't want to make this worse.
Speaker 2:Oh, I feel like, as a parent, I would probably take my daughter straight to the hospital.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure, like that's the thing you would want to do. I'm just telling you I can understand the mind of somebody, because I think that's probably the most BS excuse that I saw, like the father thing, okay, so, because I think that's probably the most BS excuse that I saw, like the father thing, okay. So there's some more things that we got to talk about with this, though, too, because Jaguar Rice showed her ass shortly after oh, my god, I mean she did yo and I don't want to be funny because she was given a very emotional testimony in regards.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say testimony either. That sounds crazy. But she was given an emotional statement on, I think Storm of arose podcast when she's with them and she claimed I saw this on star, so uh where she claimed that jay-z had a gun to her and assaulted her like she basically made that on there. It was crazy, but I know like allegedly allegedly she said it.
Speaker 4:I'm saying, what she said I don't have to like that was that's not alleged, like she said.
Speaker 1:That she said that, that's what I'm reporting. Okay, hove, I'm reporting that. She said that.
Speaker 5:So don't fucking come over here with that shit, my nigga uh, but no, she said that and I'm just.
Speaker 1:I understand and if she was a victim of anything, tell your story. But I know she felt so vindicated, even if she's lying like. For this to be happening right now, she got to be clapping like she know.
Speaker 2:The money got to start flowing in she's been saying that something's gonna happen to jay-z too, now that diddy um is in jail.
Speaker 1:So I guess, wasn't there like a fortune teller that said someone's gonna happen? Sloan bella, yeah, she said that someone's gonna happen to. Jay-z yes, the white woman and it happened in December instead, but she was a little off. They did that a 13th, uh zodiac sign, so maybe she just couldn't, you know, get the math right on that her being right was not in my bingo card at all, I mean maybe, maybe, being, or this could be.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it the beef between Jay-Z and Tony Busby, because that's who. In Jay-Z's response and his denial to these allegations, he came out with a long rock nation statement.
Speaker 2:Okay, because this statement was. I think the statement was hilarious, did you not?
Speaker 1:yeah, I also thought it was very like felt like kind of like apologist type stuff to back oh, let me see my accuser and all that kind of a lot of that stuff felt like power dynamics, because if this person is making these claims and you're trying to like exert your power over them, that makes shit looks a little bit nasty too yeah, because um they the person filed the suit as anonymous.
Speaker 4:So they don't know who it is jane doe yeah, she, she, she's a jane doe.
Speaker 2:So he was basically like show me who you are.
Speaker 1:And then the whole oh, take it to court, take it to criminal trial.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To me that's a lot of gaslighting stuff because this is 13 years ago. There's nobody going to be able to really prove that. Then you got all these people coming out now, oh, I was with Jay-Z that night. He didn't go to no after party and I was with Diddy. Thought of this was that this was like them trying to basically make up a pump up, a fake story so that when the real stuff comes then it's going to be like problems, like they'll be like oh well, look at all this, these people are lying. He's going to be able to just, you know, deny all that when the real allegations start showing up. But then when you get into like this beef with him and jay-z, this sounds kind of you know, legit the breakfast club again, this could be jay-z promoting you know this, their this information. But they're saying that, like tony said, that jay-z sent people to go after. You know their families and, just like you know, do surveillance on them.
Speaker 2:And then there was a previous lawsuit also that jay-z filed um against tony busby for um. Was it defamation, yeah?
Speaker 1:so no, they were saying that they were putting that. And they said that's why jay-z's name got put up, because tony told his client that they were sending people to talk to her family and stuff like that. And she got upset and so she was like, yeah, release his name too now. So now that they were, that's why they released it. And then jay-z came out. People then said that he's making claims, that uh, tony was making false uh statements, making people make false statements and withholding people's settlement money and shit. Like it's been getting crazy, like all these stories has been coming out from it.
Speaker 2:I haven't I didn't hear anything about allegations.
Speaker 1:but these are what the allegations are that they're saying that they're going to each other sending lawyers at both. Both of them are sending waves at people at each other. And, um, Tony's been like really vocal. I, he's been like really vocal. I don't know if he's trying to be like the next young thug lawyer, Like he's trying to act like I'm like a promo, like professional lawyer.
Speaker 2:You know how people try to do that get a name for themselves. It's more like what's that lawyer that all of the women went to when they were yes. He's trying to be the next. Lisa Bloom Shout out to her. She a legend. She is.
Speaker 1:But no, I can see that with him. I think that he's just trying to get into that realm as like celebrity attorney. I see that as just kind of being a bigger thing. I remember Young Dirk, oh, young Dirk, lil Durk Attorney was doing that, that white girl. Then you see Young Thug's lawyer, who's been doing it too, trying to like yeah, see, he did a photo shoot for a clothing line I think that's where they see like the money is in getting into the entertainment, because being a lawyer ain't going probably no, you gotta do a lot of work and memorize a lot of things, being a lawyer.
Speaker 1:It's not as easy money as being an entertainment lawyer. Yeah, when I when I say entertainment, I'm not saying entertaining a lawyer that works in entertainment, I'm saying being a lawyer that entertains yeah, you know what I'm saying like a tiktok, lawyer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's easier to be that and it's more, probably more lucrative to be that than what they are now. I just think that this is where we get into this nasty once you monetize everything world where it gives kind of some credence to you know jay-z's claims about this dude, so that's why I'm just saying where we kind of got to watch out. We'd also know misinformation that he's gonna be putting out. You know he's gonna have black media.
Speaker 2:Yeah, van lathan just talked about that and then it's just why wasn't jay-Z put in the civil suit in the first place?
Speaker 1:Like, why was he added Well, she was focusing on Diddy because she felt like that's where the energy was going. And then when that person found out again this is all the allegations when that person found out that they were stalking their family, they were like no, put his name in it, we up.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then people are still trying to make claims that the woman is either. It says this happened in 2000. So they're trying to say that's Jennifer Lopez. That's the claims that people are trying to make.
Speaker 2:That the woman who's filing is Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 1:No, the woman.
Speaker 2:Oh, the extra woman. Celebrity B oh so I have a guess too, who Mary J Blige. Oh my God, I can see that though Can.
Speaker 1:I say something and I may cut this out, but can I say something they said.
Speaker 2:Mary J Blige flew to she in Dubai.
Speaker 1:Right now I might cut this out, but could let's just, this is all a legend, we're just guessing. Yeah, we're just making jokes, but again I might have to cut what I'm about to say out. But to be raped in the early 2000s by Diddy and P Diddy, like the, the likelihood that that would happen is insane.
Speaker 2:You mean, you said diddy and p diddy.
Speaker 1:Oh, diddy and jay-z like to have that happen to you, that's a great in this manner, is a crazy unlikelihood like that, just for that just to happen in that way?
Speaker 2:that's a crazy story. Yes, and then for uh, jennifer lopez to be standing there like that's just.
Speaker 1:Or mary jay, come on yo, that's like the most. Like, yeah, wildest rape ever. Like that's a movie rape pause, or, I'm sorry. If I need I don't know I need to take all this out, but that's just crazy.
Speaker 2:To me it is.
Speaker 1:I might take this no, no, it's just, that's just to me, where it's like yo, that's like the lot, the lotteries of it, when I do that I know I will.
Speaker 2:I couldn't find my band.
Speaker 1:I'm really struggling but uh, that was crazy, look over like that. But no, that's like the lottery of it, like the lottery of assaults. That was nuts like you're not getting like come on, I'm just talking about the mere likelihood of it, both of them at the same time.
Speaker 2:He's not saying that this young lady was lucky.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying she's lying. I don't know if she's lucky that it happened To have been raped by. Jay-z and Diddy the likelihood of that happening.
Speaker 2:It's just crazy. But then like I'm sure that like crazy shit happened Happens at those parties all the time Hollywood parties back in the day Now, like it probably be orgies, with people together mixing fluids that we would never think would be mixing fluids.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, man for that family involved, man, I hope I wish you all the best, but that is a while taken. You need to leave that in okay yeah, like I'm just that's just my I'm not a, I'm just my observation of it, just even because, even if you go early 2000, yeah, he didn't drop the blueprint. You know, on september 11th, yeah, he didn't do all that yet but he's still a big deal I think hard, not like was out right, I believe right, yeah he was, he was he did that.
Speaker 2:He was on his way to becoming a big deal, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I believe he would be saying he was still a big deal in 2000.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah In 2000.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So that's what I mean, like I'm not happened but yeah, they probably did they even know each other back then. Just for I'm just saying, just the likelihood of two celebrities that have taken that kind of risk is just insane to me at that particular time in their careers.
Speaker 2:These things be doing well, but they are, you're right.
Speaker 1:So it just seems, though, that they do that more once they're established than they are when they still on their grind.
Speaker 2:But I feel like the the shaky part about this is not what. There's a couple things about her story, but it's not even her story that's shaky, it's the, it's the lawsuit, the lawyer and the firm and their history and all of the messy shit going on around it.
Speaker 2:And if this young lady did experience this and the the law firm that she chose makes it a spectacle and takes away from her story, then that's just unfortunate, because they're supposed to be getting you justice and not trying to get fame from this story. So fuck them if that's the case all right.
Speaker 1:So let's get into some a little bit lighter. So jaleel white urkel. He's been doing a press run I think he's selling a book, so he's been trying to get it out to out the mud shout out to urkel, he doing his thing you know what this reminds me of?
Speaker 2:which, um which show was it that did that episode where jill white was like scary as fuck and he was like fucking people up on on set?
Speaker 1:was that atlanta I think that may have been yeah, I'm trying to for some reason it sounds like something that was from atlanta yeah all right.
Speaker 1:So he's come out and he's talked about the black shows and some of the reasons why family matters uh, gets left out of the discussion of some of the black shows and I think a lot of people were basically saying like one of the things is it was a suburban black family, so they didn't really it didn't get the same engagement, but if you look at the numbers, it was a popular show it was mad pop.
Speaker 2:A lot of people were like it just didn't age. Well, it stayed on for a while too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a product of its time. It just didn't age well because the lead of the show nobody wants to be Urkel.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you think about some of the best shows of that time, people wanted to be or live like the main character. They saw themselves through that.
Speaker 2:So I wanted to ask. He wasn't even supposed to be the main character, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was just supposed to do like a one little yeah and I can't hate on family matters because laura held me when I was a baby. I got a picture of laura holding me as a baby.
Speaker 2:She's a family friend oh, the girl who played. You just wanted to get that off and let people know that it was fine I almost died.
Speaker 1:It was to me when I was younger to see her on tv and then see a picture of her holding me when I was a baby like that used to be fly, um. But I think that I wanted to ask the question of do you, what is your? What do you think are the best black shows that came out? We can just say since, let's just go to the 90s we're talking about sitcoms?
Speaker 1:right, we don't have to. Yeah, sitcoms, let's go. More than 90s. Let's go 70s, like since the 70s, we'll just go. This is just a ride range, you can just pick them out okay, I'm just picking out, I'm not let me go first the best.
Speaker 2:Let me go first, yeah, because I'm I'm trying to guess right now, off the cuff.
Speaker 1:So I got fresh prince martin I don't even like martin, but I know martin as one of the best shows because people love martin. I don't really like martin, but wayne's brothers the first four seasons a good time, so till james died and then the jamie foxx show okay, I have, uh, my wife and kids.
Speaker 2:Okay, a different world, okay, um, that's weird though, bill cosby products it's. It's really unfortunate but also really quick. Cosby show clips have been going viral on Tik TOK lately and it's just so unfortunate because he wrote a really good family archetype, Like it was it's wholesome in care and remember who was watching theory.
Speaker 1:We had the bill Cosby playing at the on Thanksgiving right.
Speaker 2:Yes, because um your niece loves it.
Speaker 1:That's so crazy.
Speaker 2:It's. It's a wholesome show it Because your niece loves it. That's so crazy. It's a wholesome show. It just so happens that the man who wrote it was doing horrible things Shout out to the pill. Okay, so what'd I say? My wife and kids, a different world, girlfriends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, girlfriends, is up there for me too though. Girlfriends is definitely up there.
Speaker 2:Girlfriends was black sex in the city, I'm add in living single and then I need one more right living single was good too.
Speaker 1:Living single was great um black friends. Damn, I can't or white friends with white living single. I think that um is. Does boondocks count? You can put that in there. I'll add animators.
Speaker 2:Yeah I like that, support the black animation. I think that Does Boondocks count. You can put that in there. I'll add in Boondocks.
Speaker 1:I like that. Support the black animation. Yeah, that's my list. Okay, I'm not with that. I'm not with that. I think that I like a lot of those shows. I think mine. These are just staples. Man, jamie Foxx, shout out to him.
Speaker 2:He's been doing his thing We'll talk about, we'll get into his, his special right now yeah so you watched it right yes, we both watched jamie's special it wasn't funny damn, I didn't feel like it was like an emotional, like I teared up with him a couple times. I did one giggle. It was a ghetto. Ted talk to me. Yeah, like it wasn't. It wasn't a comedy special, it was like it was a black, ted.
Speaker 1:talk to me he just came up there.
Speaker 2:He was just like I made it yeah.
Speaker 1:This is what I went through, this is how I came back from it, and he had little jokes here and there for it. Did he yeah I mean, he had some humor in there. His impression with Cat Williams was probably one of the best things he did.
Speaker 2:His impressions have always been great, he did a jay-z impression.
Speaker 1:He did a couple impressions jamie foxx is one of the I said before, one of the greatest uh performers of all time I've on this show called jamie foxx, a renaissance man that's why I was I was upset that cracker ari shapir was talking shit on joe rogan's show about jamie foxx, because they was talking about jamie foxx having a special he's like without giving anybody a special, and like nigga, shut up you dick sucker like that's the nigga.
Speaker 2:Jamie foxx is he a egot does? Does he get that? Yeah, I think so, like, yeah, he's close to it. Yeah, no, he's. Don't play with jamie foxx at all they're just like that.
Speaker 1:That whole realm is like oh, we're just purists around being stand up and all that other shit, that's all these one niggas to be clowns on stand up. Yeah, because jamie foxx is not a stand-up comedian, no, no, he's got great stand-up.
Speaker 2:Not anymore. He's got great stand-up, but you couldn't like he's not in the conversation with stand-up comedians anymore, if he was in the focus of it, the way that he can control a stage.
Speaker 1:You even seen it in that he's good at so many things. Oh, for sure, he's amazing. But you can even see in this the way that he stage and the different elements they have.
Speaker 2:You know, bo Burham. Bo Burham is, to me, is one of those people I think is really talented, like Jamie Foxx. So I mean, when you're able to, just be able to control him, what I made, a face, that's eight that's eight, because I said Bo.
Speaker 1:Burham yeah, that's eight. Bo is good. You know, bo is good.
Speaker 2:You love his shit that little white boy be doing his little diddy bop on the guitar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he be doing his thing but and just like how on the piano fox would do his thing. So I want to say again, it wasn't that I didn't laugh that much either. I when, when it was supposed to be funny, I laughed and I just I saw the emotional stuff. I understand, bro, you thought you was about to be out of here, so I can understand why he was being that particular situation in regards to just getting that out, because, yeah, he didn't like it didn't seem like some parts he was really struggling to get through it.
Speaker 2:He was getting choked up a lot telling the story about everything that happened to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's why the way I looked at this one, this isn't a stand-up, it is an inspirational talk, if you want to call it a black TED talk yes, I like ghetto TED talk or a hood talk.
Speaker 2:Nothing about it was hood, I just do that just because.
Speaker 1:Because he's black yeah.
Speaker 2:That's bad. And you want to put black people In a hood or ghetto box? No, I'm just. It was just a black TED talk, like it was. It wasn't even a black.
Speaker 1:It was just a TED talk. A TED talk is not a race. It was.
Speaker 2:It was just a talk About like Surviving A near death experience.
Speaker 4:Basically it was like a testimony yes, okay.
Speaker 2:It was extremely emotional and there was a very religious thread throughout the entire thing.
Speaker 1:I just said because there was just a lot of he did the God is good all the time. All that was in there, so I just wanted to kind of incorporate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that doesn't make it ghetto or hood. It could.
Speaker 1:It doesn't.
Speaker 2:It could.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get to a 50 Cent's op list. Were you able to pull up all of it? Because that was a lot of paperwork. All right, let's get to a 50 cents op list. Did you, were you able to pull up all of it? Because that was a lot of paperwork so um for drake. Yeah, I saw, I saw uh having another nigga's op list on your person physical because why is 50 cents so hilarious?
Speaker 2:why did you have that like he had it?
Speaker 1:printed out. But first off, before we get into that, his jokes with jay-z was crazy, because jay-z and then went to that uh, mufasa premiere and looked nuts.
Speaker 1:Beyonce didn't look like she wanted him touching her. Uh, that blue looks, looks scared. She's like a deer in headlights, like I don't know how I'm supposed to look. But no, his little thing. Where 50 cent post there where he said, oh, they want to say I raped a 13 year old. Oh, we going to my fossa, like what that's like 50 be going too far. Sometimes he be going crazy. But this op list for drake was hilarious because some of the names I I there were some names I expected, but like seeing rory's name on there was funny I'm trying to pull up the picture of the list.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have.
Speaker 1:I have the list. All right, you want to start from the top?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to start from Ab Soul. He's.
Speaker 1:TDE Adidas. It's in alphabetical order.
Speaker 2:It was also in alphabetical order, so you know he typed this up and then put it in alphabetical order. He's hilarious Anthony Fantano, asap, rocky Bobby, altoff, busta Rhymes, charlamagne, cheezer, who's a streamer, complex Music as an establishment, dave Free Daylight, demar DeRozan, dj Head, dj Mustard, dr Dre, donald Glover, ebony Prince, ebro Elliot Wilson, future, hitta, j3, jack Dorsey, jay-z, joe Budden, jpeg Mafia, kanye West, kendrick Lamar, obviously, kid Cudi, kurt Alexander, who's a radio host, lebron James, lil Yachty, meg Thee, stallion, metro Boomin, myron Gaines, omarion Okay, wake it up. O'shea Jackson Jr. Is Ice Cube on this list? Because if his son is on this list, he should be on this list too.
Speaker 1:He should be trying to show love to TDE and shit, and he was going crazy on Twitter.
Speaker 2:Peter Rosenberg, pharrell Williams, playbar Cardi Diddy, pusha T, rihanna, rick Ross. Rockefeller is an establishment that's an establishment. Roddy Ricch, rory Russell Westbrookok y'all can't. Did rory talk about this yet? Did they have an episode yet?
Speaker 2:uh, not yet, I can't wait, they have to start with this. Russell westbrook, ryan, nice schoolboy q, screw face. Gene, who's a youtuber, serena williams, sean c, also youtuber. Sizza tde as an establishment, terrence henderson, who's punch um the company man youtuber, the alchemist. The bt awards as an award show, the grammys, the mtv, vmas, the nba, the nfl the weekend, thomas johnson, tommy the Clown, thomas Johnson is sick how you gonna put that nigga name in there. See, now it's not in alphabetical order.
Speaker 1:no more, that's just random people now.
Speaker 2:No, it's still in alphabetical order. We're still at the T's baby. Oh damn Thomas Johnson Tyler the Creator.
Speaker 1:He's at the Grammy, so that's why I was off. Oh well, yeah, I guess it's the Grammy, the grammy. So yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he put the in front of a couple of them. Okay, um, victor bias, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:Whitney alfred yg, and that is everything yeah, that's a nigga who'll be talking shit on twitter. Okay, he's talking shit on twitter. I think I've seen him before okay, he's a journalist. He a journalist, that is a very long list that's kind of like dope to be on drake's op list though is it when it's so long? At this point, yeah, I mean you very long list that's kind of like dope to be on drake's op list though is it when it's so long at this point?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, you're part of that's your company set is a menace and he's hilarious. And then he actually yo like him holding this.
Speaker 1:I was so mad that he covered up some of the names, though, because I was like, damn, I can't figure out who those are no, but he did.
Speaker 2:He not read this during the interview?
Speaker 1:that's what I'm saying I just when I was looking at the paper.
Speaker 2:Okay, but that was insane to do people figured out who they were because they they. They wrote it down. Yo 50 cent. How much time did you take to make this list? Did you just ask chat gpt to do it? Oh did you ask, like one of your assistants, to do it like he definitely no, he definitely woke up in there and was like hey, chat, GBT.
Speaker 1:Write out a list in alphabetical order of all of. Drake's ops, and then I'll just add in between what I need.
Speaker 2:Like hilarious Rory, like what did Omarion do?
Speaker 1:I'm still. We got to figure that one out, cause Omar Omar used to be young money. Yeah, so, yeah, so something must have happened oh my god, I forgot that.
Speaker 2:What was that? No, that was lloyd. No, it was it was.
Speaker 1:It was oh yeah, he was young money. Then he went to uh, he was young money, maybach music, I think.
Speaker 2:So I want to say let me look up and see like it signing omarion past 2004 was crazy they was really past that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, young Money yeah, he was affiliated with Young Money for a little bit the record label but he wasn't officially signed okay, cause. I remember he was running with them boys.
Speaker 2:He was around.
Speaker 1:I do remember that so I can see where Drake probably fucked one of his joints. I had to let the R&B nigga know. You know it's not safe anymore. Rappers are taking y'all girls now, where Drake probably fucked one of his joints. I had to let the R&B nigga know it's not safe anymore. Rappers are taking y'all girls now Drake was probably hanging out with Fizz. I could see they probably tag team.
Speaker 2:They was light skinned brothering.
Speaker 1:He probably hit April. I could see Drake taking.
Speaker 2:April. Drake definitely hit April.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drake, hit April.
Speaker 2:We figured out the mystery Mystery solved over. We got it.
Speaker 1:drake hit april yeah she let fizz hit, she let drake hit 100, like what she. Let tay digs it. You know what I'm saying, so, but I was thinking like we got a little bit of an op list. Now too, though we got a little one.
Speaker 2:We got, uh, joe budden, flip um, those two good ops, the niggas from Homeroom oh Spade Room, the Special Ed Room. They were definitely the no children left behind.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, 100%. And then also who else we had. I think, that's Victoria Monet's husband, or?
Speaker 2:baby daddy. Yeah, victoria Monet's baby daddy Definitely on our op list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good list to have right there. Yeah, yeah, but uh, no. I shout out to the to the spare room man shout out to the special ed room y'all did a funny little skit. Man surprised aj was able to pull that off because them boys I didn't think they could read like that. I'm gonna be dead ass like they. They actually remembered the skit and was able to memorize lines they started down.
Speaker 2:No, they started through it, but they tried, they did, they got it done. The I didn't um watch that nonsense, but the screenshot I saw from it and the, the person who was supposed to be you oh yeah, fleece johnson that's crazy, because he looked absolutely nothing like you. Oh, why did that nigga have a beanie on? Y'all never seen this nigga with a beanie on ever. Like y'all didn't even do the basic maybe, maybe it's like maybe just like get him a a t-shirt and a button up or some vaseline like you could have.
Speaker 1:Did that too like crazy, with the dry lips on screen.
Speaker 2:My baby is never dry on this screen.
Speaker 1:But what I don't understand is what I understand is is cool, you, you do that, but like, why look like fleece johnson when you go up there? Like that's what I don't understand Like, at least try, y'all could have made me look way more dweeby it. Just to me it felt like it was a lack of creativity. Y'all were trying to be like Dave Chappelle or something.
Speaker 2:It was not good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was bad, but good, try Like to go and mince around the fact that it was just fucking garbage made by people who are not that smart. But at the end of the day too, though, like I'm not really mad because for guys with probably like high school certificates- that's phenomenal. Certificates, yeah like attendance certificates like that's. That's phenomenal work for gentlemen like that. So I salute you, I want to give you a hand, but you know, y'all did y'all thing, y'all did y'all big one, yeah.
Speaker 1:So salute for y'all man that's right all right, why are we talking on loose pussies? Let's uh, let's stay on on brand here with in regards to this next topic. So, man, did you see the documentary surrounded by? I think it named like lindsey phillips?
Speaker 2:no, I did not watch the documentary about the whore okay, so this poor girl I don't want to give honestly, I'm not saying poor
Speaker 1:I'm not because I'm not, because you know why?
Speaker 2:because she made a choice and she literally signed up and did this on her own.
Speaker 1:I've seen a whole bunch of people who've been heavily critical on the men and I want to get into that. But let's get into this first. The documentary is about how you know she slept with 100 men for her, only fans, or whatever. It was all fans of her. In regards to that, like that was like a prerequisite you had to be lined up with her, only fans and essentially, they just sent out an open invitation.
Speaker 1:She can have anybody that she wanted and they set this up. So they're basically showing you the dates coming up, they're showing you some of her like day-to-days in regards to sex work online and things like that. And then they go to the big day. This is her first time doing a big org either, like she didn't did like 17 guys before, all sorts of shit. So she's talking about this, like, oh, I'm ready, this is what I do, and all this other stuff, and then it gets real dark, like the documentary gets once the once, the day and question starts.
Speaker 1:Things is just getting weird. They talked to some of the dudes that did it and it was just like the clip that's been going viral was essentially the last few minutes of the.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, she's like tearing up and she's getting emotional yeah, I'm gonna play a little bit of it because again I I kind of thought it was kind of funny just seeing her reaction like this, because it didn't make any sense to me, like you had a choice for this. You could have still just been had your little ones and twos. You wanted to just be in front of the camera. So why are you acting like somebody did something to you? But my initial tweet was like your lawsuit is pending, like y'all just be ready it's coming, so let me see if I can find this who?
Speaker 2:who's getting sued her?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think she's gonna sue her team. I think that's gonna happen pretty soon. If she, for what? Because if you look at the documentary, it shows that her team was horrible in regards to the fact that they didn't test these people. They didn't confirm if they had anything.
Speaker 2:STIs or anything like that?
Speaker 1:When was the last time you ate?
Speaker 5:I had a. I think I had a yum yum and then I think I had a sandwich and that was kinda, and then the rest of it. It's not for the weak girls. If I'm honest, it was hard. I don't know if I'd recommend it.
Speaker 4:Why not?
Speaker 5:I think if you're a different type of girl, it's very like. It's kind of like being a, in a sense of like it's just a different feeling I don't know how to explain it like it's not like just having sex with someone. Yeah, yeah, just one in, one out.
Speaker 1:Like it feels intense, like more intense than you thought it might, definitely so, yeah, you definitely go on youtube right now and hear the, you know, watch the whole document. It's like 40 some minutes. It's not too crazy long or anything like that, uh. But no, she does like she actually walks through, like what she did with every guy they came in, you know, she tried to get them comfortable. She gave them a blowjob, no condom, and then they had sex with condoms on, so like there was a room that was full of just condom wrappers on the floor. It was insane, just the scene of it. Um, to me, this is not anything to feel bad for her about. Like you made this choice. You could have stopped, but her team is horrible. I will say that I don't blame the men who are doing this because, I'll say this, a lot of y'all say, oh, the men who are waiting in line for this are disgusting. In the pro, a lot of men don't have access to a woman who looks like her yeah they don't have sexual like.
Speaker 1:This is what people don't understand is like a lot of those guys that was the first girl who was gonna be close to like an eight or nine to them they'll ever have sex with consensually.
Speaker 2:Well, that's why she probably had the stipulation that they had to be fans of hers on, only fans, because I mean, that's just so you know that they already paying for you. These are. These are dudes who are excited to see you and who are fans of you and who are gonna come quick anyway.
Speaker 1:So but then also, too, they had folks like if you watched the way her team were vetting these guys, it was so trash. They were telling the people who were, who already confirmed to bring a friend, because they needed to make the hundred people, because people were canceling and shit. So they had a whole bunch of people who were canceling out, people who were dropping out, not doing this and just having whoever no test or anything going on like they did not care about this girl's safety in the least bit. And the crazy thing too was it was mostly women on her team. All of them made sure their faces was blurred in the documentary were the guys faces like the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they blew it out everybody's face okay, okay everybody, everywhere they went to. He talked to like a group of people on, a random group of people on the street and told him what he was doing, and they were just like oh, okay, interesting, and just walked off like it was nuts.
Speaker 1:But again she, she did this on herself and I just to me. I, but no, I was saying when, when you watch this, it's a lot of that white victimhood type shit where it's like, oh, I, I made a choice, but now it's no longer my choice anymore and I could just I could see a lawsuit happening with this.
Speaker 2:The thing that stood out to me in that clip was her saying that I wouldn't recommend it. Bitch, you don't got to recommend that shit to nobody.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Nobody was thinking about doing that at all. There might be a couple, more than a couple. There might be women that out there who want to have threesomes with two men, but that's about it no girl.
Speaker 1:Another thing they did too they said this on camera to the dudes in the documentary that some of the guys called back and said I don't feel like I did a good performance, can I come back? So there was people who came back and did it twice and so they didn't tell. I don't think they told her that because she was saying I don't even remember everybody who came in of course it's a hundred men.
Speaker 2:Yes, you can't remember all their faces. Some people came and double dipped and then at that point, like you do have to, you have to disassociate no, she said she did humanly you cannot like sit there and be actively, mentally, a part of every single hundred of those guys. That's crazy. That's not what your body's meant to do yeah, she said that she wasn't felt sore.
Speaker 1:She just was mentally used like essentially, you was just a cum rag for like a whole day, like that's all she said. The guys was nothing in her face and everything. She was like don't put it in my eyes, and sometimes it accidentally happened, yeah like they don't give a fuck about you. They're there to live out a fantasy yeah, like you were just giving people an opportunity to do something they never thought they were ever going to do that's why I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't sit there and blame the people, the men, because all these people are sick, like all these people are going through, like for the fact for her, where she doesn't even come from, like no slums, like her family got they do well, and she's doing this and the that these niggas is like bro, I'll never have. I'm pretty sure 60% of those men will never have access to. It was a lot of incels in that room A lot of guys who just aren't desirable to women.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm pretty sure this was the only time they had that. And then they talked to some guys. Like one dude was like oh, I have to make sure no one's seeing me because, um, my dad would kick me out if he, if he knew what I was doing. Like, these are folks who was just living at home, probably the bottom of the bottom, against all european guys for the most part. So they, you know, culture is a little different out there, but oh, so she doesn't live here.
Speaker 2:No, she's. This happened in the uk.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's the only reason it could happen like this. This is not happening in california. They will send the folks in there and break that whole shit up. What do you mean? There's there's, there's corn laws in california, oh so you can't somebody. If she put it online that she was doing that and the authorities got wind of it, they could go in there and break it up, because you got to be a uh for people to perform on camera like they're doing oh, you have to go through testing okay, there's laws for that, like in california okay, you could only do
Speaker 2:that in some other country so yeah, she was from, was from the UK. Well, what if you was in like?
Speaker 1:Utah If you put it on the news yeah, you're going to get, they're going to come, People are going to come. That's prostitution.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Like you can't do it, but she wasn't getting paid. Yeah, but it's still prostitution. That makes it prostitution because she's getting prostitution. That kind of filming, though, isn't legislated all around the country the same way. That's what. That's my main point. That's why, when they find out where you're filming these at, they can get broken up, and then you have, like, the seizures and they come in and they seize all the tapes and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:That happens a lot oh, I didn't know that happened no yeah, that's why california is where most of the stuff, the legitimate stuff happens at, because there's rules and regulations and stuff like that. Because she even said on this, where she can't even get a bank account, she said she has a hard time getting a bank account with people out there because of the kind of line of work that she does.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that sex workers were going through all this red tape and bureaucratic shit too.
Speaker 1:There's a whole segment where they go over her business. He like shows spreadsheets and stuff that she has set up where, like, they show prioritizing for people when they have custom events or custom request of her and they show her doing like no, they didn't show it, but he was outside the door while she was doing someone's custom. She's like, oh, I'm being a dominatrix, you little nasty slut boy. All this other stuff she was saying, but it was nuts nasty slut boy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what she was saying fucking weak ass uk accent that was the worst part of the doc.
Speaker 1:You know I hate that yeah, weak ass accent. But no, what? What do you say? That was your friend, or you knew her like. What do you say to her after that?
Speaker 2:that was wildly unnecessary. And um, if I'm, if I'm her friend, I'm not judging her. You holding her hair? No, I'm not holding anything on her.
Speaker 1:Because she said her assistant be coming in and doing the filming for her.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm not Holding the camera. I'm not in the building when you're doing this.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like if I was a woman, you would be a good number two if I was in that lifestyle.
Speaker 2:If I'm your friend, I'm like I'm going to come number two if I was in that lifestyle. If I'm your friend, I'm like I'm gonna come pick you up if you change your mind. You can be a madam like I'll. I'll be around and I'm gonna come pick you up if you change your mind so you don't think you would be a dope, madam yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not none of my my hoes friend. I'm their madam. You're saying if I'm her friend, those are two different types of relationships. Can I be a madam? Probably?
Speaker 1:I don't think. Yes, I don't. I don't think the women who are underneath the madam see it like that.
Speaker 2:I think it's very much the same and, and that's why the madam is doing her job the way she should be. But none of them bitches, are her friend. She it's. It's a whole bunch of gaslighting and manipulation in in relationships like that.
Speaker 1:No, you should listen to the women who are on her team talk about oh, she did so. Good, she's. She's doing this and we, we got everything, we got our metric, we hit our number and all this. I'm just like yo.
Speaker 2:That is insane that these other women are talking about and then those are women that she probably does not work with on a regular basis, because she has nine people on her team on a regular basis for only fans, yeah that's how much money she's making, where she needs nine people nine people, yes to do choreograph, to get her out to events and all sorts of shit like that jesus.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so other than like an assistant, a manager maybe, if she's getting hired for outside events, um, your your camera people, so I wouldn't say for only fans. You would need more than two. She's right, I think she has one for her assistant and then somebody who edits probably people handle the money, all sorts of stuff like that yeah, but why do they need to be there? Like an accountant has an accountant is like just outside. They said the team.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure they was probably like but it looked like it was. From what I saw, they only show one person that was like the representative talking in the documentary, but it probably was about five women because they were just had. They wanted to make sure the guys were cool. They were doing smoke breaks with the guys and stuff like that Like they was really like chopping it up with the niggas. She was like some of these guys, like one guy did this and another guy did another job and they, you know, did some networking.
Speaker 4:These niggas was networking.
Speaker 1:Yes, they was networking for the pussy during the pussy. Oh, you at my company, we can get you guys to do this contract for us, like literally happened at the meetup. So I just want to know now, what do you? What happened when your boss asked you like where you meet this nigga at adam, mass orgy like, oh no, I was, I was one of a hundred getting some, some loose puss, I just thought, hey man, he knew what I was did, I did, I knew what he did and the nice little team up if that's my, that's my eskimo brother hypothetically, you are one of the guys who's willing to do this and you find out and you find out your number like 96 96, are you staying not the whole day.
Speaker 1:I'm coming back when so you okay.
Speaker 2:So you're, you're gonna keep your 96th spot and not just be like yo fuck it if.
Speaker 1:I'm in this and I'm this far. I'm not getting pussy on the regular like I'm a, I'm a square, I'm a, I'm a incel, I'm a undesirable.
Speaker 4:So yeah, if I'm here, nigga, I'm this is.
Speaker 1:This is the best piece of pussy I'm probably ever gonna have. So the bitches, I fuck gotta have fupas and shit, all that. They got chin hair and all that also hypothetically regular rhetoric him right now oh no, I wouldn't do this at all okay, but if you did, what number?
Speaker 2:what number would? You would end like what, what's the highest number you could be for a regular right now rhetoric for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not a married man yeah probably three okay, I guess that's respectable.
Speaker 2:I could be three, I can see three.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I'm not mad at three, she all right. You know I'm saying access to a white girl. That looks like that usually comes with racism. So just to be able to nut off on one for the ancestors. Yeah, so I can take away my time okay, three shout out to shout out to me for that. All right, uh, was there any parts of that else? We need to cover women or children that woman was definitely not a child at the end she was.
Speaker 1:She went back to her fetal position and was like oh, what did I do, did she? Now she wants to do a thousand.
Speaker 2:I heard so yeah, if you were like teared up and felt emotionally and mentally used by a hundred, why would you want to do a thousand? And logistically, how would that even work? I've seen a woman who got close to a thousand like when I was in college but mathematically how would that work?
Speaker 1:it's 24 hours in a day. When she did it there was like a two minute time. I think every guy had two minutes to sleep with her and then they had to go so they just you had to come in rocked up and go to work and then go back.
Speaker 4:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, these here. They got a little fluffed up and all that beforehand, so they got a little works. But let's stay on this. We're going to stay in the room.
Speaker 2:How long did it take her?
Speaker 1:It was all day. They started at probably like 10 and they didn't get finished until it's probably a 12-hour shift. Oh my god. All right, let's move on. So we'll stay in the mail the room, the realm of the male gaze and I'm not saying gays, like gay people. I'm talking about like your, what you see with your eyes.
Speaker 2:Cooking with kaya has been getting the women upset I don't know why this is even a thing it's been sparking more civil unrest I feel like this is just the cia trying to spark unrest in the back community again they said you think cooking with kaya is an agent?
Speaker 1:yes, I thought it was crazy when she said she was 17. I didn't get to confirm that, but they said that she was a 17 year old girl. If that's true and y'all hate on this girl because she making some jokes in her content about your man going to want to come, like, come on. This is where we at in our community.
Speaker 2:Why are you Like? I just want to know, Is that where we at? It's just so low?
Speaker 1:It's such a low-hanging fruit and y'all always get mad at any girl who kind of somewhat prioritize guys. I don't like that.
Speaker 2:Well yeah, Women who prioritize men are dangerous. How To what To other women? How Tell?
Speaker 1:me.
Speaker 2:We, we, we all have that friend who would leave us for dead if her nigga called, regardless of the situation, which is a little bit dangerous.
Speaker 1:Okay, but I mean that's like.
Speaker 2:I thought about something worse. In in your own, in our own personal lives, oh uh, all women have had uh experience with a woman who prioritizes men, who has fucked them over or has done something that's left them in like a kind of fucked up situation, because that's what girls like that do well, I can see the character that she's playing talking about fucking on niggas, men and shit yeah, yeah, yeah like all right, she wasn't talking about that, she was just doing twerking with it.
Speaker 1:But I just think yo, she young, that's the time where y'all supposed to like extend a little bit. I think once y'all find out she young, at least y'all should be extending to it. I see people doing like that. That can happen to people in regards to like oh, they being shady and stuff like that, but there's a market for it and I don't think we should be shaming women who prioritize men.
Speaker 4:Like.
Speaker 1:I think that's fucked up and I think that's wrong to get mad at us for promoting this girl and being like, oh, like. Retweet.
Speaker 2:Women like women, who prioritize women. We like girls girls like what I'm saying and y'all can like the women who prioritize men, but we're not gonna like them, but why y'all gotta be mean to her, because she's why we're gonna. I'm gonna be rude to that bitch, you dumb bitch. Plus, it's a mistake. I used to be one of those women, it was a mistake.
Speaker 1:You just did it with the wrong men. Now you're one of them and now you're good.
Speaker 2:I'm not one of them anymore at all. I'm just married and you prioritize me. I don't prioritize men, I prioritize my husband.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm a dope superior man.
Speaker 2:Like yes, you are a dope superior man, but these other bitches I'm saying the thing is, the problem isn't acting like that though the problem is doing it for the wrong person.
Speaker 1:I think far too often y'all get mad at the action, as if the action make the person a bad person. When it's like no, you do the wrong, you do the right thing for the wrong people.
Speaker 2:There's nothing wrong with that and, like you, could be doing the right thing for the right people. But still fucking, but still fucking over the right. The people who are right next to you like your girls and shit.
Speaker 1:The right person matter, but the right person's not gonna make you fuck over other people. No, they're not. So I mean, if you're doing that because you feel some insecurity, that's your fault, you're right, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, but I would yeah, you um the when you're a guy's girl, like that's just stupid. It doesn't benefit you in any way other than like being your husband's girl, like that's the only thing that benefits you. If you're young like this, then lean into your, your friendships, and your, your female, your female partnerships. That's not. That has nothing to do with with fucking cooking with kaya. The girl is just like the, the body is set, she got ass and titties and all that and she be cooking and then she just be posting her little videos and she uh, women are projecting insecurities and jealousy and a bunch of other shit on her, I guess. And then there are men who are lusting after her and shit that's all I've seen I haven't seen her too much on my timeline.
Speaker 2:When we were first discussing this I was like bro, where are her parents?
Speaker 1:but she could literally be in college like yeah, or she could be in college in like an apartment off campus already, like she said yeah, so that's why I was like I just feel like a lot of people just being weird about it and it's just I hate seeing when, again my example just doing the right thing for the wrong people isn't the focus of it, because there should be more that where people there should be like we, we don't encourage that. What's the? What's gonna want other men, men, to wanna be Around a woman If she's not being that kind of? That's the point.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying that's cool. We don't want you niggas Around us, I want my husband Around me and the rest of you niggas Could kick Fucking Rocks.
Speaker 1:This is coming from the girl who cooked the whole oxtail For me On our second date.
Speaker 2:So I didn't cook you oxtail. I made you goat. That wasn't oxtail no it was goat. I made you curry goat. I thought it was tell that story right.
Speaker 1:I thought it was oxtail curry. Goat is just as impressive it is.
Speaker 2:It's still impressive, but tell the story. Right rice was phenomenal yes, it was, everything was phenomenal yeah, I mean, it was outstanding.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it. So glad that I had I don't know how to get niggas. Let's niggas is sick. We gotta talk about your girl, drea man. She made she got a 37 viewed viral tweet.
Speaker 2:Yo, she went crazy on niggas oh yeah, I didn't see her tweet, but, but I think she was getting her shit off a little bit.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is what she said she said I want women of other races that date black men to understand. Black women that know our self-worth don't want the ones that choose y'all anyways. Why would we want to date men that don't want us? I don't like that because it gives the impression that because a man dates outside of his race, that he doesn't want to date black women. And it's true. A lot of y'all do be liking them, niggas.
Speaker 2:That's why y'all be mad, okay and, it's true, a lot of y'all do be liking them, niggas that's why y'all be mad, okay?
Speaker 3:so when we talk about them.
Speaker 2:Niggas which, which, which group of niggas are we talking about? Are we talking about niggas with money and the celebrities and all the famous niggas?
Speaker 1:that let's get. We see or we talk about regular niggas. Let's scale it up to her. Let's just since she's the one who tweeted it, let's scale it up to people she would have access to okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So if we're talking about like celebrities and stuff like that, she's right. Why would we want niggas who don't want us that? That is just that I think she ate with that. That's true. I don't want anybody who doesn't want me. If you have a history of not dating black women, you continue to have a history of not dating black women.
Speaker 1:Do that, please but that's not true, because you can have a history of dating a whole bunch of women and then end up being with a black woman that you like to be with that doesn't mean I don't like that's complete, that's completely fine her second point uh, why would I want to be with someone who don't want to be? That's not true, because there are some black men who don't mind who they date. They'll date a black woman, they'll date, and they don't talk shit about whoever.
Speaker 2:I don't think she's talking about those black men, though I think because she ended it with I don't want to be with somebody who doesn't want to be with me she's talking about the black men who don't date black women, who do, more generally, lean towards white women, but that's not what her first statement, that's not those. Those. We don't want those niggas. We want them niggas to stay over there on that side of the fence.
Speaker 1:Her first statement was saying we don't want the women, the black men that uh don't date us. They're saying the women who date, who date black men to understand black women who notice someone don't want the ones that choose y'all anyway.
Speaker 2:So that's what she's addressing. She's not even addressing black men. She's addressing the women who get chosen by the black men.
Speaker 1:She's talking to bitch that the nigga chose her over. Yeah, that's who she talking to. A nigga who she was with was fucking with another chick and he brought, he picked up the because he picked the non, the non-black woman there's probably.
Speaker 2:They was probably having a conversation amongst themselves with her and her girls and whatever, and she decided to tweet that. Um, I think it's interesting that she geared it towards, like the, the women who do get chosen by the black men, who we don't want because they don't want us yeah, that's what I'm saying, that inherently that's just not true, because it was funny it was.
Speaker 1:I was on the timeline the other day and I seen someone asking question and she put it in the vaguest and, I would say, disingenuous terms. But she said why are the black men that are celebrated don't want to be with black women? And I'm like yo, that is the vaguest shit that you could ever say celebrated. Celebrated is whatever you wanted to be.
Speaker 1:That could be anything you could say celebrated famous, I guess the firefighter like no, she just said because she wasn't trying to say because you could say famous, you could say a celebrity, you can say uh does she mean like black men, of just like any notable characteristic? Whatsoever. That's what I mean. You're using a term like celebrated to be vague. That could be anything. You could just say oh, I don't know why don't the firefighter that was celebrated, why he ain't dating a black yeah, that's too late you just saying anything when you say celebrating.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean where it comes to this, where it's like y'all do be wanting those men. That's why y'all be having these reactions and y'all can't act like y'all don't.
Speaker 2:That's the part where I'm saying she's, but I've said this on a, I've said this before that like, I guess, let me, you, you, let me try to get my thoughts together. All I'm saying is she's capping.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm saying. The reason why you even say a statement like this is because the nigga you wanted probably picked a nigga, picked a non-black woman and now you upset. That's the only thing that would trigger something like this. Because this. Don't make any sense to say that, because that's not true. How many times has the, the jonathan majors was making the rounds? All the women were saying they love jonathan majors and they seen him with that white bitch grace and then the whole tune changed and what?
Speaker 1:he went back to the black women to show that, hey, we good me and Megan, I'm an action figure, she's a hot Barbie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're so awkward together. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to hate but I think she's dope.
Speaker 1:This is just a disingenuous post. That's just not true. There's plenty of guys that we've seen that choose non-black women, that black women love, and they love them up until they find out that point yes, because you choosing the white woman is what makes us not love you anymore so that's what I'm saying, that's again. That's the. What I'm saying is that y'all do like them niggas, but once they don't. Once they like white women, now you don't like them now we don't want them anymore.
Speaker 2:Yes, because now you're over there and stay over there whatever that's, you know that's bs right like you know, that's BS though right?
Speaker 1:No, because, because you wanted me until you knew.
Speaker 3:I dated white women, but I can change my fucking mind.
Speaker 2:But that doesn't stop. That's one of the main things that's going to make me change my mind is if I find out you fucking with white bitches. It doesn't, you're lying. Yes, that's not true For me. Yeah, yes, and that's a common thread amongst black women.
Speaker 4:We can think you fine as fuck.
Speaker 2:and then we see you with a white we got to throw this nigga away now, because he fuck white women.
Speaker 1:Now we got to throw the nigga away. Let me just clarify. So it's just that you have to see the person with the white woman.
Speaker 2:I have to have proof of you fucking with white women. Yes, I have to see it, I have to hear it.
Speaker 1:I have to hear it, I have to smell it, I have to feel it. But I've told you that, though, huh I told you that before.
Speaker 2:Yes, but you have not dated a white woman seriously. Yes, that's what I feel, and black women also have that you could, black men, fuck white women, whatever right you could do that in college. But dating taking seriously, meeting your mother okay, throw that nigga away. I can think that you're fine, a fine, upstanding black man with great morals, until I find out that you brought a white woman home to your mother. But now and now I have to throw the nigga away so what if?
Speaker 1:what if they buy racial, that's fine, okay, that's fine, that's peace, that's peace I've, I've, I've.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna let the biracial what I feel like she's, she. She was hinting to a little bit like we don't want y'all anymore because y'all y'all was over there yeah, I know, so stay over there.
Speaker 1:And my point is you wanted the nigga up until that one determining factor. Yes, but you still wanted the nigga.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's what I'm saying. Don't say that y'all don't want the niggas.
Speaker 2:No, but she's saying we wanted him.
Speaker 1:That's not what she's saying Well, I'm clarifying she's saying the niggas that go to y'all, we don't want, we don't want them anymore, that choose y'all anyway. That's exactly what she said all right said anymore. Shout out, uh, shout out to luigi. I'm sorry that they captured you. Um, like man, that's nuts. So, luigi, uh, what is it? Managino or mangerino? I don't know his name, something like that shout out to a real one uh, he's been captured. Yeah, and the worst way to that'll make donald's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, by, uh, by, just like by the working class, who is not going to get their reward? By the way, did you see that? Yeah, I posted about that the.
Speaker 1:The reward is contingent on him being found guilty and it's also contingent on the fbi nominating him, so they have to nominate you for the award, man that's.
Speaker 3:I don't understand why. That's why I hope you die poor.
Speaker 1:That's to me. If the person didn't do anything directly to you or to someone that you feel real empathy for, you should not be calling the authorities like that because I don't. We said on the last show I don't feel empathy for. You should not be calling the authorities like that because I don't.
Speaker 1:We said on the last show I don't feel empathy for buddy like this is part of the game for the man who was yeah, no and then you see everybody trying to like, put out all of their information to be like oh, he was a working class guy who worked his way up. Yeah, he's a fucking tool. I don't want to trust no tool. I don't feel empathy for no fucking tool.
Speaker 2:Then this other, I don't care if you're a working class guy who worked your way up to being satan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just worked your way up to being the devil. Good for you, like big class, now you're where you're supposed to be. And then you got luigi, who there's like, oh, he's from one of the richer families in maryland and he went to a forty thousand dollar school. Yeah, a lot of times the biggest revolutionaries come from privileged class. You know why? Because the privileged class has access to information and when you have information, then you can tell other people to revolt. If people take information away from you, if they keep you dumb, how can you know to revolt? How can you? You're just gonna think it's just this. How shit supposed to be. If you look at uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1:from cuba, damn fidel castro he came from a privilege upbringing, upbringing um carl marx. His wife was a bourgeoisie, so like this happens normally, if you want to get into, he was from an elite class. I'm just saying like revolution people who are freedom fighters or revolutionaries or terrorists generally come from okay, I called him a terrorist okay, I was, I was waiting. I was waiting on the explanation they generally come from elite class, because that's how you learn what you need to resist a revolutionary.
Speaker 2:I mean some people would, yeah, but taliban would not. On this platform it was funny.
Speaker 1:We were talking about it and she never heard the phrase uh, one person's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. No, I hadn't. I can't believe you never heard that before. No, I hadn't. Seeing this where you're from, I would think that would be like a something you would have heard in conversation.
Speaker 2:A lot, but, um, haitian people don't, uh like, we don't consider anybody who fought for our freedom, any type of terrorism like what we were doing was fighting for freedom and it was revolution. It wasn't like terrorism or nothing like that has to do with the revolution and I thought so that's
Speaker 1:probably why I've never heard that and I don't want to take back what I said either because we just backed syrian rebels to take down the country of syria. They think they didn't kill their president. That's? Do you not know? That means iran and syria have both lost their president this year. Right now, from the middle east, is a mess everything that I've been reading about.
Speaker 1:They have not found uh asad's body. That's the former president or prime minister I think president of syria was and they haven't found his body since he got onto a plane to leave the city when the rebels took over and again.
Speaker 2:I don't know Did his plane crash or something.
Speaker 1:They haven't had any reports and they just say that he hasn't been found.
Speaker 2:They haven't even did it land they haven't located the plane either.
Speaker 1:Again, this could all be updated by now, but from what I've seen, they didn't have it updated. Regarding that, they did find, when Iran president died, they did find the remains there, but they were saying that was, like you know, an accident. I don't know how believable that is, but it just seems really convenient that two countries who have been resisting Israel for decades lose both of their presidents in the same year. So that's why it's like I understand that buddy Assad did some foul shit. I'm not going to act like he didn't. I'm not going to act like I'm not aware of it.
Speaker 1:He you can accuse him of doing a lot of evil shit to people as well, but when Israel is supporting a takeover like that, you got to kind of have your ears up, your ears perked up, because you got to understand why do they want this to go down? And one of the things was he was resistance. He was resisting them. He was assisting rebels that were, that were anti-israel. So that's one of the bigger things. But then you see them bringing it in and I'm like I'm confused on everything I'm reading about this, because then they're saying like these are islamic rebels, but then they're doing the whole stick where the the reporter gets to show her hair now and they're showing a woman with her who's showing her hair.
Speaker 1:So it's like, are these strict ones? Like? Well, to me it doesn't make any sense, that's all it just. To me, the how I should feel about it is just so vague and unclear because, again, I know buddy did some fucked up shit, but I also know he was resistant to a lot of the other fucked up shit that's going on in the area. So it's just fucked up all around. Really, it's really bad. All around the world is fucked up. Yeah, man, it was just crazy just seeing that. And it's he's been holding up for like 15 years strong, trying to, because he's been cool. Russia, he's been essentially been like, you know, iran all these guys have been in cahoots with each other, but we're I'm trying to tell you man, we are getting ourselves in position with the way bitcoin is operating.
Speaker 1:Let me let you listen to this. The way Bitcoin has been operating, the way the world has just been moving, it's exactly like the Great Depression. So I just want you to hear this. It's probably going to confuse the fuck out of you, but I just want to hear your reaction to this.
Speaker 4:What did you do last week? With the treasury operations, you were able to generate a Bitcoin yield of 2.55 percent, or over almost 10,000 Bitcoin to shareholders using an arbitrage. We sold one and a half billion dollars worth of stock by 500 million worth of Bitcoin.
Speaker 4:We bought back 1.5 billion of Bitcoin. We captured nearly a billion dollar gain in the arbitrage. That we can do with equity day by day. When we do it with debt, we issue $3 billion of debt that's backed by $600 million of Bitcoin that comes due in five years. We pay 0% interest. We buy $3 billion of Bitcoin. We capture the $2.4 billion in the arbitrage gain up front, but then over the course of the five years we double or we quadruple the investment because we're buying an asset which is appreciating faster, Are they?
Speaker 1:buying debt. Essentially they're just buying off speculation. Basically they're thinking that is they said when you're buying an asset that's growing at its rate, that's what you get a headache from that shit.
Speaker 2:My eyes just got dry, I get a headache just thinking about that shit.
Speaker 1:Somebody tried to explain it. He said basically, simply, you sold something worth one dollar for five dollars, effectively transformed four dollars of value from the new shareholders to the shareholders in the aggregate. You from the new shareholders, uh, to the shareholders in the aggregate. This can can continue as long as new shareholders are convinced they should pay five dollars for something that's worth one. So it's a house of cards oh okay, they're scamming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, essentially they just it's just legal finesse, that's okay, like this is people.
Speaker 1:Okay, right now we are in the roaring 20s right now. Essentially, we didn't have the spanish flu.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna just keep my money.
Speaker 1:I mean it's, it's just about when you pull it out. That's what it's about. It's just about monitoring and when you pull it out. We got right now. You saw, he said five years. When it come to, I think by 2029 we're gonna look a lot like 19 uh 29 and we're gonna be prepared for a depression but you gotta buy a gold brick no, we need to buy bitcoin and then pull it out in five years okay, but like I feel like we need to maybe buy a single gold brick.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to like if again there's, I think it's like 22 million bitcoin.
Speaker 2:How much is a gold brick and like?
Speaker 1:19. Right now, 19 million of the possible 22 million bitcoin is has been mined. It's becoming a slower, slower process, but I promise you, as soon as all the bitcoin has been mined, that's when they're going to do what they did the same thing to the gold that we had, and they're going to put debt on the gold and speculation on the gold. And when, shit, when it's time for the, the banks and all these people to ask for their money, everybody's gonna be pulling out money. It's time for the banks and all these people to ask for their money, everybody's going to be pulling out money and it's going to fuck up the Bitcoin. What, what are you looking at?
Speaker 2:To buy a gold brick. It's worth like $959,000. It's basically $100,000.
Speaker 1:You just might as well just buy the stock of gold rather than buy that Actually buy a gold brick, Because you can't, because do you know the money? But when the stock market crashes but the thing is should.
Speaker 2:I not have the physical gold brick. It's not going to be worth it like there's no, like value for it.
Speaker 1:What are you going to be giving niggas shavings of it like there's not going? To be any value for it. The best thing that I'm going to just keep my brick If we have the stock market crash. The best thing that you could have is a gun and give it to my grandchildren.
Speaker 1:The best thing you could have right now if a stock market crash would be a gun, because that's how you're going to take over and some land. I mean shit. If you got a gun, you can get land. We've seen the settlers do it before. We need to get some guns, we'll get more to protect you.
Speaker 2:We need guns in the attic, guns in the garage, guns in the basement.
Speaker 1:We got to get guns that you can take care of, ones that you can actually shoot. Well, yes, you'd be too scared to pull the trigger on something like that.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, no, I'm not. I should show you the video of me shooting. I was like at the shooting range. I was not afraid it was not holding two guns, I was no. No, of course that wasn't. They literally would not let you do that at the shooting range that would be nuts I. It was a glock 45, I think I shot craziness, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I think we got pretty much everything that we talked about the ceo getting found, right with the killer being found yeah, we talked we um. You got more into other stuff, yeah well, I guess we could just talk about it real quick, just to finish up. Um, they tried to say buddy couldn't have sex man. I thought that was fucked up. They said his back was fucked up, he couldn't have sex.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that is fucked up because he fine. That's crazy, like what do you think? So I'm playing him in the movie dave franco you think so.
Speaker 1:That's why everybody kept saying dave. Yeah, dave franco would be the perfect person. I was thinking the dude played freddie mercury too old you think so?
Speaker 2:yeah, dave franco, just gotta like get a little jacked. Because why is luigi so jacked? I was when I saw, when I saw his picture. I was like the American people are so unserious that even if you were one of the people who were like, oh, somebody lost their life.
Speaker 1:Now that the killer is hot, this, the whole story has changed so the reaction to it was nuts and then, like you, seen a video where they was pulling a man. He was like the american people are too smart to know, too smart to know to fall for this yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:You see all the the conspiracy around his youtube page, all that, all that stuff yeah, the youtube page was fake.
Speaker 1:But I will say, if I didn't have the things that I had in my life coming up, I could see myself at 26 being revolution, radicalized like that, because I need to because just from exactly where he grew up, like he's didn't grow up far from where I grew up at. We both was pretty affluent households like I could definitely see. Like if I didn't have any anything to lose at his age like I got when I was his age, I could definitely see me crashing out doing something like that yeah but they're getting caught with everything in the mcdonald's takes no sense to me why did he have the gun in his bag still?
Speaker 1:the gun, the silence that's the part manifesto. That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. Where, like because I really wanted this to be like our generation db cooper, where this happened and nigga never got found and then his lawyer um was on the.
Speaker 2:He was doing a press conference talking about oh he, we're gonna plead not guilty to. It wasn't a press conference it was an interview he was like we're gonna plead, not get, not guilty to everything because they need evidence and they don't have evidence. I looked around and there was no evidence. They found him with the gun and the silencer and the manifesto in his bag like what other I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm not a lawyer, shout out to you girl, but um, it's literally like a smoking gun in the backpack of this man then the manifesto read like a fed too, because he was like thanking the police at the beginning and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:It just to me I can understand where this could be a great example, because he didn't have to be some left avenger for me, like I didn't need some to be like on some on the same shit I'm on. I think it's even I would have liked for him I think, it's more endearing the fact that he wasn't and that he got pushed this far, the fact that you just tech he's just a regular guy, yeah you said you a tech bro kind of guy you're just a chill guy that shoots niggas no, I just think that is interesting.
Speaker 1:Where it's like, those are the people that you want to be radicalized because they're showing you how bad is the system, that this guy love the police, all this other shit just turned it and went crazy. And then people were also trying to say this was like to make the stock go up. Killing a CEO never makes it go up, it only makes it go down, and it has been going down the last few days.
Speaker 2:What the fuck about that, nigga? And then United fucking Healthcare posted a CEO position on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1:And the people keep trying to act like he was the top dog. He not even the top dog, no he's not.
Speaker 2:He was the most accessible dog. Yeah he was just the one person that was outside that he knew he can get touched.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I like that Blue Cross Blue Shield saw that shit and was like forget it.
Speaker 1:No, that was Sigma, sigma or something like that. No, it wasn't sigma, it was blue shield. You're right. Yeah, because I have signal. It wasn't them, but it didn't have anything to do with our state, anyway, it was like new york and yeah, but I think that was still crazy or not. I was, it was crazy, it was definitely absurd, like me, uh all right uh that's a perfect name for you I think, I think you should throw away all the other names and just go by absurd.
Speaker 1:I like absurd rhetoric, because I talk crazy, so I think that's where. I think it's good. It's funny too. That's how that happened, because it was just something I've been had on my twitter for years. Yeah, all right, let's wrap this up, man, we got anything else. I did see this thing where brandon t was calling, uh, calling out cat williams, but we ain't gotta go into that yeah, because brandon don't really give a fuck about what you gotta say.
Speaker 1:That's fucked up, though, because he was talking some real shit and he was, and he was like bro, I'm out, I'm really outside where they're doing doing the real work, and he just getting on stage acting like he just you know this mythical individual and he really ain't. But we ain't gotta wake it up. Maybe another day another day I think we can get brandon t on the show. We could pay. That we can try we can get that little hunted up together and get the buddy on the show, not the little Fitzy hunted.
Speaker 2:We can get that little Fitzy hunted. Cut that out if you actually want to get him on here.
Speaker 1:Nah, I want to get the show and then have that on there so somebody can cut it up later on and be like oh, he was talking shit about you and he had you on the show.
Speaker 2:I told you that's one and his baby daddy on his show.
Speaker 1:then Nah, because he's going to violate and we got to put our hands on him. We're going to have to have security. That's going to be fun. Should they be in the shot with us when we have security right next to us, like on some love?
Speaker 2:hip hop shit. Yeah, we'll have security standing on this ledge in between us, right here.
Speaker 1:That would be sick. That would be a nasty security. Nah, because his dick would be too close to me. He could be on the ground or something he can't be right here. Unless it's a girl. It's going to be a girl. No it can't be a girl, it has to be a guy. A girl is more likely to shoot.
Speaker 2:If it's a guy, guess it has to be a guy.
Speaker 1:If it's a woman, guess it has to be the girl can. All right. Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, and the only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations. Let them know what they need to do, baby.
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