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What if the glamorous lives of celebrities were just a series of public performances, meticulously crafted yet fraught with real-world consequences? Join us as we dissect the intricate web of celebrity relationships and the inescapable burden of fame. From the dramatic saga of Cardi B and Offset to the transformative journey of the Black Eyed Peas with Fergie, we unravel the complexities lurking beneath the surface of their public personas. Our discussion takes a humorous twist as we reminisce about early 2000s TV nostalgia, where Disney and Nickelodeon stars like Raven-Symoné shaped our youthful perceptions.

As the conversation unfolds, we spotlight the challenges faced by public figures beyond Hollywood. A Colorado State athlete's experience under public scrutiny parallels the broader issue of maintaining a positive image in the face of relentless fan speculation and media portrayal. We also delve into the rising concerns of online fame, spotlighting young streamer Kai and the risks associated with publicizing personal relationships in the digital age. Whether it's examining the societal biases in media representation or exploring the ethics of modern music, every segment provides food for thought.

Our episode isn’t just about drama and speculation; it’s a lively exchange filled with humor, thoughtful critique, and perhaps a little controversy. From the playful dynamics of celebrity crushes and sports fandom to the explosive discussions around online communities and colorism, we cover it all. We wrap up with a reflection on the importance of transparency in our colorful yet often perilous social spaces, leaving you with a fresh perspective on the world of fame and its broader implications. Engage with us and share your thoughts as we navigate these fascinating discussions on Talk FNF TV.

Speaker 1:

And I get to.

Speaker 2:

You. Good, I just squeeze it, I'm fine, don't try to clean it up at the end.

Speaker 3:

Yo, that was disrespectful. Yo, that I don't. Hey, let me let y'all know something that go on right here I have final right of refusal. What get cut out? That would have been gone.

Speaker 4:

You done smacked so many bitches at this point.

Speaker 3:

Lil Baby has.

Speaker 4:

Lil. Oh, I thought you said the baby. My bad, keep that in though.

Speaker 3:

I like that. If you was my girl, I like that somebody told you to stand up. That means you just was focused on me.

Speaker 5:

You ain't worried about nothing else we know how you are. My man did he tell me to stand up.

Speaker 3:

What if I'm a victim of somebody thinking that I'm just a bad guy?

Speaker 4:

It just sucks that you're a man.

Speaker 3:

So I just have to be a byproduct of somebody else's revolution like every single male must be wiped out, from baby to the elderly. Only then can women be free to create a new world. Like what are you doing here, this nigga? Hairline is going and you over here talking about the nigga who Diamonds is dancing Nigga. What's going on?

Speaker 2:

Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What the fuck do you think your podcast is doing on that podcast?

Speaker 5:

now.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 3:

I've been looking at some things and I've understood what's been going on and what we're becoming, because, like we didn't step into this with just being like one thing, we knew we had to like find our direction in the process and recently we've been having success in becoming the podcast that just talks about people's relationships.

Speaker 3:

I've got a nasty the thing that I've hated most, but I feel like we don't do it in a bad way. We don't do it in a corny way. Yeah. We don't try to like act like we're doing something better than them.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, which most of times, I would kill us both if is it too early.

Speaker 3:

I like to think of us vicariously. I like to think of us vicariously living through the celebrity like there's this these are stuff we would never do to each other yeah so we just like put ourselves in their situation and then have like the conversation as if that was our thing, because we wouldn't do it to each other so I mean, that's where I just think it's fun to to do that exercise.

Speaker 3:

It's like being able to like practice the argument without actually having to do anything to spark it, and then it's just, you know, we get entertained by, we get people listen, we're definitely entertained by it, and people are entertained by it too, apparently so if you were expecting something hard-hitting and riveting more. We're doubling down in this episode, one could even say tripling down and what's been working?

Speaker 3:

we're going to the whale yeah, we're gonna look at the analytics and then we're gonna lean into what's working so if you want the shit that you want to work, you got to go back to old episodes and listen those, so the analytics go up and we can see the spike. But we got to go with what's cooking, man. We got to cook with grease, yeah, or you got to clip up our our stuff. So then we know other people like it, because that's when we know we made it when other people when strangers, niggas we've never had an interaction with, start doing that, that's gonna be crazy.

Speaker 3:

I mean that's happened a couple times, it's on tiktok, but I mean like, I mean like randomly, you go in there, we get on like you know how, like the skill of, uh, what's the skill of dialogue?

Speaker 3:

he'll just post random podcasts and stuff like that. When you get on that part without having to pay for it, that's when shit get different. Like I remember, when he was talking about uh dc young fly and it was this podcast, it was like in the basement it was right after uh, you know, he lost his baby, mom or whatever, and uh an RP to that. But um, they were just arguing about that and it was like a big old you know cabuffo about what to do, to say it. I didn't get too much traction afterwards, but reaction.

Speaker 4:

I've been there before. I didn't see that yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, it was, it was, it was wild. It was wild when that one happened. But, uh, got anything else we want to touch on before we get into the music or like do you, do you want to stand on anything? Some principle you're going to have with this, with our new found, uh, niche, gonna try my hardest to make men feel bad, fascinating. I promise. I don't know how pinky promise there's gonna be something we're gonna read that's gonna be in our disturbing section of the show that I just I want to just see your take on it because it ended bad.

Speaker 2:

But what happened. We'll get to it. We'll get to it, don't worry.

Speaker 4:

Okay, we will get to it somebody played this on a video and I was like I forgot about this song.

Speaker 2:

You forgot how it hit. What's that instrument called the steel?

Speaker 4:

drum. They fucking up the steel drum.

Speaker 3:

I feel like, because they had a diverse band, they felt like they could get away with anything.

Speaker 4:

They could.

Speaker 3:

That's what they did. They whole little run during the 2000s was just like oh, we can just do whatever because we're not caught in the construction.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

Was William the first post-racial man? Questions that need to be asked.

Speaker 4:

remember Fergie went solo yes, and she ate that too.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was gonna be bigger yeah, me too, but she had her, she had her hit like going back and looking at them.

Speaker 3:

They were so like commercial but being out there and wild, but like the commercial version of it. It didn't feel like that watching it, but like in retrospect. You can see it so much now like y'all niggas were so commercial. Y'all niggas was not, but they tried to play like they was, like this soul group that was just like oh, the black eyed peas no, the the original group probably was with the black woman, but when they replaced her with Fergie for commercial reasons, 100%.

Speaker 3:

Even their first hook, though, was kind of like their first hook. Their first single was kind of like solely song.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to look at it while I'm recording. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Trying to remember they first real single. But I'm saying that even that first single still felt like that kind of vibe to me.

Speaker 4:

How you think they let?

Speaker 5:

her go Like come on.

Speaker 4:

Like they offering us a lot of money. She talked about it.

Speaker 3:

She's done a couple interviews about it. We've got to get her on the show.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Absurd rhetoric peep that just know these are the words that always will reign true and I'm, with my lovely and amazing and thoughtful and courteous and considerate co-host, miss reality. Hi guys, watch the mic, baby, yeah my bad, jesus man, my bad.

Speaker 3:

I've been doing this for 70 some episodes tighten up, but no, uh, we are back with another installment. Like I said, we are now the the relationship show. That's going to be something that's going to be highlighted here. So when there's relationship drama, we will be messy. I hate to break it to y'all, man.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to be messy regardless.

Speaker 3:

And we're going to start with our favorite little toxic couple, our little muck, our little toxic bunch, man Cardi and good old Offset man. So I'm going to tell you. I'm sitting there. You know what I'm saying. I was doing little things, had some technical issues going on on my day to day, but Cardi come through. So, even through all that, I see her hitting that space button and she got shit to say. She got shit she got to get off.

Speaker 4:

Oh, she was in the spaces. No, she was in the spaces. No, she was. You know, she do her own spaces.

Speaker 3:

Okay, she do it the same way every time. It's just her on stage and she yell forever Like don't bring nobody up, don't talk to nobody. She up there getting her shit off solo.

Speaker 4:

Good, and I guess what happened. It's entertaining every time.

Speaker 3:

What sparked did this go around? I guess offset had tweeted something to the effect of like oh, your fans are stopping you from getting the life that you really want, implying that they was together and she want to be with him, but because of this whole ideal that she's created around herself, she can't be with him. So that's like her art, that's like what he was trying to say. So she goes nuclear. I didn't get everything because I didn't know if it was gonna be this juicy, but I got enough wrong because I posted text messages about you because people was fucking playing with me.

Speaker 5:

So I told you too and I apologize to you about it, like because I you know what my bad for posting those text messages. I didn't know that people were gonna receive it like that and I didn't know it was going to go so viral.

Speaker 4:

Thank you, I just felt a certain type of way that people were talking shit about me Because your messages got fucking fake, leaked, boom.

Speaker 5:

Now what you're doing now You're trying to make it seem to my fans and to these people like I'm lying, like if I'm trying to be a family with you, when you know that's not it. You know that's not it. I was being nice to you for one day. I was entertaining you for one day out of these couple of months. I had to tell you for one day because I broke up with somebody and you know that that shit.

Speaker 3:

Allegedly Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 5:

And now you're telling these people I'm lying and I.

Speaker 3:

She went out a little bit. She was having some technical issues.

Speaker 4:

Technical difficulties.

Speaker 3:

I got more though.

Speaker 4:

Play it. It's very juicy.

Speaker 3:

I didn't get the screen record this one, but other people were doing their due diligence and doing their job in the streets Making sure they hitting that screen record button. Shawty man, this was crazy. She really got more. I thought I had more stuff where she was yelling and crying because she was getting. She was really in her feelings. Whatever he was doing she, she really felt affected by that shit. So hold on, I got this one other part of the space right here. Let's cut it.

Speaker 5:

Before I really go there, I told you let's cut it. You've been trying me bitch the fuck, stop you.

Speaker 3:

You and it was funny because she did. She did two spaces, right, like she did one, and then she started going off and then it went out. It sounded like somebody grabbed her phone, like somebody was like get off, you need to stop doing all that. And then she came right back on and she went right. It was crazy, like just the essentially what I got from it, and I could be wrong, cardi, but that's how you made it seem like you let nigga fuck after whatever issue you was going on with, uh, with your new dude, and he put you on blast. And then there was a bunch of other messages that came out when it was going back and forth, so excuse me if I'm reading this uh, wrong, these individuals only made it to third grade so these tweet, these texts are hilarious.

Speaker 3:

So this is from offset. Nobody win when the family fight. Stop capping to these people to make yourself look like the hoe. It ain't the look. You a fire woman. Good music, but you focus on dick and I'm trying to make me look bad. And trying to make me look bad, focus bruh or bra. He said bra. Uh, this shit is whack from both of us. Drop the album and go up so this is a tweet.

Speaker 4:

This is a tweet.

Speaker 3:

That was a tweet okay, here's another one from her single and miserable question mark. Nah, you just mad that I'm outside and you thought niggas wasn't going to be, wasn't going to be on me because, in your words, I got three kids in my 30s. I'm miserable. I don't bother none of the, none of the hoes you fuck. But every guy I talk to you, you DMing and talking shit about me like let's not. Ooh, it's getting nasty.

Speaker 4:

Offset is messy as hell.

Speaker 3:

So to that first message that I read from Offset she then responded she said so dating because I'm single means I'm just worried about dick. You sound like a dummy trying to be fake nice after you did what you wanted from the beginning, trying to push a narrative to these people congratulations, fuck off and sign the papers today oh is he not signing the divorce papers a real we

Speaker 3:

can't he got to get her back to wanting him and then you give her the papers. That's the only way to do it. When you split the custody. This is what offset saying when you split the custody. This is what offset saying when you split the custody I will. You ain't worried about music, you worried about the dick. Everybody can see it. All you talk about uh, all you talk about us dick. That's what he said is he tried? To say is but and the clubs burnt, no music, no, nothing, just drama.

Speaker 4:

Yo offset I mean, yeah, he right, there's no music and just drama my nigga is fighting back. I love it did you see the the texts?

Speaker 3:

the ones that she was talking about when the first one, when he was talking about him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's just real nigga shit. Them shits were hilarious and I'm gonna readset goes, damn, you look pretty. And then he goes come over. And this is another day, this is the next day. He says come over. And she goes. I told you you never getting this pussy again, and I meant that.

Speaker 3:

We see that that was wrong, that was a lie.

Speaker 4:

We don't know if this is before or after that one time. No, because she talked about the leaks. When you see that that was wrong, that was a lie. We don't know if this is before or after that one time. They fucked again. No, because she talked about the leaks.

Speaker 3:

Okay, remember that. She said now you're talking about the fans saying so.

Speaker 4:

And then he goes I want to fuck. Why are you being like that to me? You feel like you're going to be on me if you do. That's real. And he said I want you, I miss your pussy, I miss your face you make when we fuck, which is that's that's ill, that's that's the ill line, right there. And then she replies and goes I don't feel like I'm gonna be on you.

Speaker 3:

Y'all niggas just don't deserve and and that was that was that as you can see, offset still got access, so shout out to a real one. She coming back dog. Just keep weather the storm, whittle down the blade, it's going to get dull eventually.

Speaker 4:

I thought she was coming back, but I hope she don't. Cardi, I hope you stay outside and I hope you keep making this nigga chest hurt. No, it ain't.

Speaker 3:

You seen him the other day. They had a clip of his birthday where she was at the club. I guess she had an appearance there as well for his birthday.

Speaker 4:

And he was just sitting there looking at her the whole time it was at Rolling Loud, I think, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I just know they was at a club for his birthday and I seen him. He was looking at her.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I believe it was a Rolling Loud event and they were both events that she's doing because she has to post about it, so he knows where she's gonna be at. So I'm sure offset offset just showed the fuck up and then he was throwing money at her and then she's throwing money back at him and then I'm like this is the pettiest shit I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3:

I love y'all that's how y'all are so toxic. That's that's how you gotta do it. That to me, this is a love rollout. This is gonna come out into a reality show or something you remember that picture of chris brown?

Speaker 4:

um, yes, on the sidewalk, like we're gonna get one of those from offset and cardi soon and I cannot wait.

Speaker 3:

That might be in the next video they might just recreate that in the next music video.

Speaker 4:

They do like oh my god, I'm not imagine if cardi b pops out with a nigga, no like in a relationship. She's not doing that.

Speaker 3:

She's not doing that. She ain't popping out with no nigga. Oh my, I want her to be seen with a nigga she ain't I?

Speaker 4:

I want her to be seen with a nigga she still want offset, no offset.

Speaker 3:

Fuck all that bullshit. You know it that you want you back in there. All you gotta do is just keep applying the pressure.

Speaker 4:

I don't think he won I think I think cardi definitely slipped up and made a mistake by probably fucking him after they broke up.

Speaker 3:

If she's still giving you the pussy, she's still. The fact that she's even responding to those type of messages to you means she won it.

Speaker 4:

She on the same time that you won, you might be a little right, because if she was fully over over it like she would have left that club.

Speaker 3:

But she.

Speaker 2:

Or she wouldn't have responded on text.

Speaker 4:

She's contractually obligated to stay at that club I'm talking about the text the text that she would have just not responded to.

Speaker 3:

Those like hit me up when you want to talk about the kids yeah, it just would have been like a temporary block or something like she would have put the little uh notifications off on you or something like I'll say hold it down, you doing the right thing. She don't know. No better, all right, she don't know no better. Okay, you just run the train away. You got to keep running. It's gonna eventually get to the stop and she gonna be back in the home. It's okay, these niggas don't really want nothing for.

Speaker 3:

I hope she rips the tracks off the fucking ground no, because I just that hurt everybody, that just hurt the whole family, yeah so don't no, you can't be advocating family, no, you can't be advocating for the whole, everybody's rich, the kids will be fine. No, you can't destroy it you think, the way they spend money, they think they got it liquid to last for a year or two.

Speaker 4:

But cardi can sell all the birkins. I'm telling you they hold their value, that shit is that shit is liquid.

Speaker 3:

That shit got to be that shit different. I'm pretty sure they expense just for her. A month is probably like two m's at the minimum a month.

Speaker 4:

That's kind of. I think she was talking about it not too long ago.

Speaker 3:

She said it was closer to like two million dollars that's crazy.

Speaker 4:

I couldn't imagine a month like what are you? Getting surgical procedures and then, and then you already know two million dollars, how much even the, even the best bundles are like a couple thousand dollars and you how much like?

Speaker 3:

but it's upkeep is many. Is management people having people around to manage all that look and stuff like that if you're talking about, like her staff and yeah, all that stuff. Okay, she's talking about what it costs to be her. Okay, to have everything around I'm like girl bundles, don't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it might have been more less than two million, if I remember what she said. But then cardi said that weak ass other tweet talking about. Oh, remember she went on the live saying that the niggas go after the sevens and the the low ones that's what I I saw that was some more than anything, he said that uh, the the perfect men don't go after perfect tens doing the whole intimidated thing?

Speaker 3:

yeah, they. It's not that they intimidated by you. They don't want to negotiate with you. When there's somebody who look just like you, let's hit it. She can give me less headache. That's, that's the truth.

Speaker 4:

I'm sorry car, and then I saw a bunch of people calling her not a perfect 10. They were niggas like they was posting calling yourself a perfect 10 girl they was posting the the content.

Speaker 3:

Then she tried to clean it. She tried to say she was by saying like her pussy was clean and it was funny, like it was like describing like a good sex worker. That's really what she described. When she said why she was a 10, it was quite hilarious, um, and then she threw in like having her own paper and all that other stuff. It was like girl, what are you talking about? That's just not how it operates it. It is when you are at the rain that the the range of wealth that you're in it is the niggas that dominate that, because you're not going to want to put money on a nigga to keep him around like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that's what that looks corny to women.

Speaker 4:

So this is 100 percent.

Speaker 3:

It only works in the man's favor, Like the fact that you do way better than him. I mean that's going to be a curse for you more than anything. So stop with that whole. They ain't intimidated. They don't want to negotiate.

Speaker 4:

That is a better turn of phrase, if you say so.

Speaker 3:

I mean, just think about if you had. Why would you just think about you? Uh, you control like train companies, right? You had all the on the east coast and then somebody is trying to sell one in the midwest, but they like I don't know if you can can handle this, but you already got all this experience handling the east coast train they like oh, the midwest, just a different kind. You can play nigga. Fuck what you're talking about, not about to negotiate with you to get your little ass train station when I'm already up in the train game, like that.

Speaker 3:

So it's kind of like that. But uh, no, we still got some more relationship stuff to stay into. So, travis hunter, my brother, we gotta, we gotta talk man, because I feel bad, because I'm really watching this concert, I'm not just listening to everybody's commentary about, I'm really looking at what's going on and that's a football player.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, the football player.

Speaker 3:

He just won the heisman, so salute to him he just won the heisman. Give the people some context played for colorado state under dion, wide receiver in db, and he's been having a lot of social media blunders, I guess you could say, where his girlfriend is involved and people are basically saying like bro, that ain't the one for you. So some of their evidence for that is when they talked about, when they first met, how she said he wasn't her type yeah that's a big red flag right there it that does sound bad because then, what made, what made him your type?

Speaker 4:

what changed over that time?

Speaker 3:

maybe was it his, you know, rise to fame in regards to the potential nfl track that he was very fast on yeah, like, what did what? What changed that? Then you have there was a another video that happened a while ago and this is the part I was like you gotta understand when you're next to somebody like that and the people are on the eyes remember, we talked about this last week there's people who want to see your downfall so they're going to infer any conflict between the two of you that they have publicly to go off of, to say, oh, what is trouble in paradise?

Speaker 3:

and then you go into what that was going on with her. You know them talking. They like they was arguing. Essentially, this is like after like they seen your game or something like that the senior day game and they like they was arguing. It's like you got to understand. Your emotions need to be up. There's a video, there's a clip of patrick mahone's wife that goes viral, where you see her mouthing to her friend patrick wants me to smile because he says he, I have resting bitch face yeah, I saw that and that's a real thing, though.

Speaker 3:

real thing though, Because like, why are you not looking happy, Like I'm giving you anything? Any woman who's looking at you right now would want.

Speaker 4:

When you have resting bitch face, you could fully be happy, but you're just not currently smiling Like. People tell me that all the time they be like you look miserable. I'm literally so content, I'm so happy right now. This is just how my face looks like. I'm sorry you're offended. How about how the fuck my face looks when I'm just maybe like zoned out or something like that, and then Patrick Mahone's wife she's at these football games all the goddamn time she's gonna okay what. Wherever she's at, she's gonna. I don't like what.

Speaker 3:

That's weird as fuck I just understand it when we're under such scrutiny. And then you also gotta take into account I'm with a hundred guys in my locker room. All of us are not in the same pay status.

Speaker 4:

We don't affiliate in the same group more than everybody.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, so when I have somebody who wants to make a joke of me or wants to be funny or wants to kind of undermine me in front of the boys, they may use a clip or somebody manipulating something like that and they're making me look bad. So it's like there are competitions going on even in the the locker room yeah, so that's what I'm saying, where it's like you've got to be more mindful of that.

Speaker 3:

And I'm trying to, and I understand her, just maybe, just you know, maybe being tired or them having some type of conflict she might not even none of that might matter if she has resting bitch face.

Speaker 4:

That's just like when you're just like being yeah, no I'm just what your face looks like.

Speaker 3:

I'm going back to the travis hunter situation where they were.

Speaker 4:

Look like they were arguing oh, they were definitely arguing, so that's what I'm saying. He had just won. Right, they had just just won the game and then everyone was like girl, that's not the time, like have, let him have his moment and then you can discuss what you need to discuss afterwards, especially off camera too.

Speaker 3:

And then there was another situation where he, just when he won the heisman which I feel like this was overblown, in my opinion, because you've seen a lot of people trying to make a big deal out of this so they call his name up and she's still sitting and you see dion having to tell her to sit up. To me that didn't look like something a girl who I'm unimpressed with what my man did. It looked like a girl who somebody said don't make this about you, make sure you just is about him, because she was just looking right at him the whole time. It wasn't like she was looking around.

Speaker 4:

Maybe she just didn't know she had to stand up. That's what.

Speaker 3:

I'm thinking she wasn't aware and everybody was behind her. So I'm looking If you sit here next to me, and I'm looking that way, I don't see y'all standing up. No, so she didn't have that cue to be able to do that. And then he just told us. That's what to me. I didn't think of it as she was trying to hate on him, I just saw her like she just didn't know what to do, and she probably was told what would.

Speaker 4:

What would the reason be for her to know she needs to stand up and not stand up when everybody else is? I mean, it's just, what was everyone, especially because he has to walk over.

Speaker 3:

They were just trying to say she was being rude like she was hating. Okay, Like, oh she not ready to congratulate her man, she should be jumping To me. That's making a show for her to try to be a star, rather than him To me. I like that If you was my girl, I like that somebody told you to stand up, Because that means you just was focused on me.

Speaker 5:

You ain't. We know how you are my man's did he tell me to stand up.

Speaker 3:

Okay, then I'm just trying to tell you he didn't say no. I'm looking at him. This is his moment. I'm trying to make sure he gets to be the person I was actually one of the times.

Speaker 4:

There are moments in NFL drafts and stuff like that when guys win and then their girlfriends jump up and start doing a bunch of shit and the mama push them away doing a bunch of shit and the mama, push them away, especially when they white. It's just like when they jump up and do a lot, like it kind of takes away from the person who's being celebrated.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because you're doing a lot and the guy usually isn't doing that much so naturally your eye goes to the little woman who's jumping up and down screaming doing too much.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So that's why I thought that one wasn't that big of a deal. Then there was another clip that was going on where you see him taking pictures and again I don't know how y'all made the determination. I listened to that thing like 30 times. I don't know how y'all made the determination. She was saying, or she was aggravated, saying what am I supposed to do? When he cleared it up on his life, he said that, um damn, he said that she was going to, that they were discussing what to do with the family, and when he was telling the family something can go back to the hotel if they want to, if they want to chill and sit. They can't just whatever was up to them. So it wasn't really no argument. Again, I don't know how y'all took that out of to be an argument from them, but that's why I'm saying I feel like a lot of people are going in this in bad faith, especially poetic flocco. I seen them post you going, she's gonna come after you what did he say about her?

Speaker 3:

he just was reposting the stuff and trying to say, oh, you need to get away travis and all that kind of stuff like that, they're gonna come after you. Apparently another youtuber tried to say she was a stripper out here in atlanta at cheetah. Apparently she was a bartender. But they said she was a stripper out here at cheetah was she a bartender at a strip club, at cheetah?

Speaker 4:

cheetah is a strip club, yeah, I thought we went to cheetah before we.

Speaker 3:

We never went there. No, I don't think so. Well, no, they said she was a stripper at Cheetah. Then they tried to say she had an OnlyFans where they show like the link for her OnlyFans. There's nothing that was on there now, but at one point she had the OnlyFans.

Speaker 4:

Like that's just a lot of stuff there was another story they told See, that's what it looks weird waiting for. Then didn't this happen a couple times?

Speaker 3:

they alleged I think they talked about that's something they would do. She would go out and hang out with her friends. He would wait in the car, like that's weird bro, stay home yeah good, put her in uber or stay home, don't wait in the car. Nothing, nothing is good about waiting in the car. So that's what I'm saying, where I understand where the red flags are, travis, you gotta understand you putting this girl on your live, they got her doing revealing her parents.

Speaker 4:

She did a parents reveal.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because everyone is trying to say she's trying to say she's yeah white, just because she looks white yeah she. Well, apparently she's an afro latina. My, my, a travis. I can't. I can't be mad at you. My rule was she had to have a black mama too. So if you went outside it was only if the daddy was the different was the non-black. So he made a good decision, he went to the right one. She's technically she's a black, her mama black, she a black.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, she's black.

Speaker 3:

Jewish rules apply.

Speaker 4:

Genetics be weird. Yeah, I mean Jewish rules apply, but she came out of a black woman a fully black woman.

Speaker 3:

So that's why I think a lot of y'all just hating on this poor girl, y'all putting a lot of more pressure, a lot of pressure on her more than she's probably ready for. But she should have expected this.

Speaker 4:

She definitely should have expected it. I think the whole thing around them is really weird. I think it's because just another football player who looks like he's coming out with a white woman, even though she's not technically a white woman. Why did I say technically she's fully not a white woman?

Speaker 3:

You just want to hate on her.

Speaker 4:

Like I don't know what all of the vitriol is around this Y'all just the internet, just wants to be mad. And then this is a young man who's about to be successful, so y'all want a reason to hate on him because that's that's what people do, you know. You want to find reasons to hate. I love hating things too, so not judging y'all, but that is the reason that y'all feel the way y'all feel about this.

Speaker 3:

The same thing with cooking with kaya, like we talked about last year, last um episode, but also too, it was being real mean, uh, because then it was also being hard on his mama, travis hunter mama, because she had gave a speech where people told her. She said in her speech y'all was being so disingenuous or maybe y'all just can't comprehend, could be a little bit of both. But she had said that people call travis a mistake when she was pregnant with him because she was young or whatever when she had him. And then she said I don't want anybody my story in my story. I don't want anyone to let you say your mistakes define you. At no point did she say that Travis was a mistake. It was so many folks trying to like shit on the women in his life.

Speaker 4:

It was bad, I was like man.

Speaker 3:

What are y'all doing?

Speaker 4:

This, ain't it, people? I've noticed, especially now that we have our own show too, that people will take things out of context just so they can try to prove a specific point, and it's there's. There's just no point like sometimes I'll comment back. That's why I don't comment back, but sometimes I'll comment back and then the person will reply and I'm like okay, you're not trying to fucking understand me at all. Let me just save my energy.

Speaker 3:

No, a lot of time. That's what it is. You just kind of got to understand folks is coming from a bad faith yeah perspective.

Speaker 3:

But just to stay on poetic, a little bit poetic, you you really violate. Now he might come for us. So we need to be on the on the queue. You know he cool with danny, he might come for us. He also went at after another couple who his name is dominique foxworth. He does a podcast and I think his wife comes on every. I don't think she's on the podcast often, but she comes on to the podcast every now and again and they had a discussion where they were talking about Jalen Hurts. You know, you know who Jalen Hurts is the quarterback for the Eagles.

Speaker 4:

I know who Jalen Hurts is don't be looking like that. Take that twinkle, because, see, this is what happened with him and bruh, you saw that twinkle in that chain. Nigga, that shit was blang, blang, that shit was nasty.

Speaker 3:

That was a nasty chain.

Speaker 4:

That shit was crazy. I've never seen diamonds dance like that before no, he was really flexing on that one.

Speaker 3:

He was.

Speaker 4:

Let me see and then he sat down. He was like is that what y'all wanted to see?

Speaker 3:

I said don't don't do that. Don't do that. You didn't do that. You said you didn't do all that I put my phone down.

Speaker 4:

That's what I said. Don't put your nothing down for no nigga.

Speaker 3:

See this is what poetic flock are going to cut up. This is what he going to cut up.

Speaker 1:

You're a superior man babe, my daughters, they're so sweet. They tell me like you look nice. I mean I want to think I look nice If Jalen Hurts happened to see me, he'd thought I looked nice.

Speaker 2:

I was wondering we should put a clock on how long it takes to you, Because I'd be like, look at him, thinking an old woman looks nice.

Speaker 1:

You know what's interesting about Jalen Hurts? Okay, obviously I'm not saying he looks old like in a bad way, but he looks, he does.

Speaker 2:

I don't care what's your favorite part of the game One-handed catch by AJ Brown.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I saw that it was really good and Jalen Hurts threw it.

Speaker 2:

The tush-push fumble Whose tush was being pushed.

Speaker 1:

Jalen's the only tush that could. That's bad, I'm not sure of me. Never wanted to be a football player more than now.

Speaker 2:

I'm fine.

Speaker 3:

Don't try to clean it up at the end. Yo, that was disrespectful, yo, hey, let me let y'all know something that go on right here I have final right of refusal. What get cut out? That shit would have been gone.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but we're talking about it, we're talking about it, and they went viral. Hey, they went shameful.

Speaker 3:

This nigga, just this is poetic Flaco. This ain't no nigga who going to? Charge, I don't even follow him. Yeah, this shit guy didn't even get 250k views. That ain't viral that you kind of go for you trying to lease it to him. If a nigga do that to you, Then she tried to clean it up at the end trying to say, oh no, that's all that nigga gotta say, that's a problem. Ain't no nigga need to be able to say that to you.

Speaker 4:

that's wrong, that's a violation oh my god, yo so I can't. You can do what you want. Oh, you just gonna cut it out if I need to are you gonna cut out what I said earlier?

Speaker 3:

I might cut out that first. That little thing you did at the end, that was wild, that was insane when I pushed the mic away yeah, that was insane.

Speaker 4:

That might have to go you need to leave that in for the people no man, you're trying to turn me into the next dominique foxworth?

Speaker 3:

definitely not. He see, I'm a little bit taller than him, but he's got to see. Dominique, bro, I understand what you're trying to do. You got a very attractive wife. She's gorgeous, you know same. You know we have the same thing going on here. So but she be violating, she, she, she needs some more courses. She needs some classes on this, because you can't be in a place where we criticize and talk negative about a man, other men, especially younger men. You can now have my wife saying she want to get tush pushed by the nigga didn't she say she wants to push his tush?

Speaker 4:

that is worse you playing butthole?

Speaker 3:

play with the nigga? No, how is it that's?

Speaker 4:

worse?

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's worse your bitch want to tush, push me yo. That's crazy. That's am I chain shining. That shit was crazy. You talking about niggas that got more money than me.

Speaker 2:

They athletic younger like what are you doing here, this nigga?

Speaker 3:

hairline is going back and you over here talking about the nigga who diamonds is dancing Nigga. What's going on? This nigga is over there. He is disintegrating in front of us.

Speaker 4:

How his hairline catches straight. I'm weak, I'm just saying that's just real shit.

Speaker 3:

The nigga is dying in front of us in regards to just aging, not looking better with the age. Now he's dying. I'm just trying to put a sauce on it and you over here, god, he's withering away. You over here gargling on the quarterback for the eagles.

Speaker 4:

That's nuts you don't think? Gargling dragged it a little bit. I went there, she was glazing him glazing the glazing is definitely glazing.

Speaker 3:

Glazing is a form of gargling. It's like the extreme form.

Speaker 4:

I feel like glazing is like the beginning and then gargling is definitely closer to the other end of the spectrum.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying that's just wild yo, that's insane to me. Like I don't feel like you. I feel like you think that's cool.

Speaker 4:

No, there's a little I wouldn't do that much.

Speaker 5:

No, she did the voice you. I feel like you think that's cool. No, there's a little I wouldn't do that much like she was.

Speaker 4:

She was squealing yes all that. Like girl you're doing a lot in front of your man about another man like like I'm pretty sure. Now let me be a guest on another all girls podcast, without you. There I'm showing my black ass like I need.

Speaker 3:

I need the right to to edit that too.

Speaker 2:

I need the right to that I need to view that tape but like here, I'm not doing all that.

Speaker 4:

That's crazy, that was nuts.

Speaker 3:

See, the problem I hated the most about that was the voice squeal.

Speaker 4:

Don't squeal your voice because the same equivalent would be if you were sitting here talking about another woman and like growled at some shit. I would break this glass and stab you. I'd be stab so quick.

Speaker 3:

Like if I did the Shannon growl. Yes, michelle.

Speaker 2:

Michelle.

Speaker 3:

He sounded like Elvis Presley when he did that shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he did. I still don't think that was real. I don't either, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Well who knows, michelle might have been Michael, but who knows? Hey, I know your kids Relax.

Speaker 4:

But, that makes it worse Relax. They're good people.

Speaker 3:

Makes it even worse. Let's stay in our realm a little bit longer here. I know we've had y'all talking about these couples like damn these folks just love hating on some folk couple but we got to talk about young kai man because we love kai yeah we. We want the best for him kai recently.

Speaker 4:

It's his 23rd birthday too. Happy birthday, kai. We are supporters of you. We love you. He popped out with a girlfriend and she got a past on his, on his stream too. So oh, she has a past.

Speaker 3:

I didn't it's not that it's not that extensive, but it's like she, a young girl just like him, but it's like he's there around the same age yeah she was dating another streamer not too long ago and they did like a whole stream where he was like inviting her to meet his parents and she was like the first girl to ever meet his parents and all this stuff. So now when they go back to this his other dude stream he's like shocked, like he didn't know that they was dating and all this other stuff.

Speaker 4:

Like he's like oh, kai didn't know no, the other dude didn't know she was okay.

Speaker 3:

So he's like oh god now it look like kai didn't took your bitch.

Speaker 4:

Essentially yeah, well, that's that's the game that's an interesting story to tell, though kai took my bitch because if I wouldn't be mad about it, he's short, but other than that, you know he's a.

Speaker 3:

He seems like a good guy more subs than you big guy.

Speaker 4:

That's all it is man. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I just can't be mad at it to me it just feels like and maybe I could be wrong this could be how these young niggas move. I just feel like they just have so much more information that we did that they should know this wouldn't be the you can't like y'all been before all this happened, because it's only a move for her, because she streams. You stream like this is a business play um, it might be.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, but it from the couple clips I've seen of the way they've been interacting and stuff and the stories he's told, it seems like they've been dating for a while kai, you got to be careful with this man because everyone was saying that it was a mistake for him to have her on stream.

Speaker 4:

Like you can, let everyone know you have a girlfriend. Blah, blah, blah. I'm not single anymore. Cool, but I think it's a very sticky situation to have to bring your partner up with you when you're already there, especially at this kind of point.

Speaker 3:

You just had your subathon and all that other stuff. You're a bigger part than you've ever been. It's just you know people are going to look at something to shoot at you for, and you now you just gave them the biggest target to go at.

Speaker 3:

So I mean again, is this the girl you love and it's what you want? Salute, you know, do all that, but I just to me, I don't think it's smart and I think these young guys kind of had to be more aware than we were at the same time uh, age, that this is not going to help you in a way that you think is only going to be a liability do you think that that generation is just like more open with because they grew up 1000 on the internet like they share everything, especially somebody like kai, like this nigga was showering in front of his thousands of people for a month straight but that's what I'm saying is like you give the world so much you think he needs to keep something for himself?

Speaker 3:

it's smart to have something to yourself. That's what I always thought was. His thing was like yeah, because you, even then you knowing that you have a girl, that makes every interaction now weirder granted, it's gonna help with the content, because now it's like, oh, kai, who has a girlfriend, let a girl dance on him, and all that stuff, like now you're gonna, but now you're gonna now put another person going back and looking at the streams and seeing him like back up from sexy red and her friends and like looking annoyed and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

And people are like putting two and two together, that like he's had a girlfriend for a little bit and that's why he was acting the way he was acting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but see, it's hard to tell with these guys because everything is a storyline, so he could be aware that this is the story that I'm telling. So let me act like this. And now that there's other stories coming now, is it gonna be that I'm this playboy that messed on? You know, like you just don't want to allow putting a girl in the mix to mess up your image, but I see that with the stuff that has happened around him, it probably would be smart to have a more vocal woman around I was about to say, like shawty, that's not zoe.

Speaker 4:

yeah, like for kai, it probably is better for him to have a girlfriend, for her to be like nah, he's not whatever in, whatever nonsense is going on, he's with me over. Yeah, you can let her be the bad guy, so yeah.

Speaker 3:

But we'll see, we'll see how it goes, we shall see, we will, we will. So do we need to get into Raven Simone?

Speaker 4:

Yes Child Raven Simone done got on an interview and said that the young boys were watching her show because she had breasts.

Speaker 3:

Was this on her show? I don't know if it was on her show or if it was on somebody else's show. There was a white man there. I don't know if there's a white man on her show did, she had she had her hair buzzed right in it. Yeah, like in a black t-shirt on I don't remember.

Speaker 3:

For some reason I kept for some reason I kept thinking that she was like outside and somebody just did like a tmz interview when she said that when they were talking about that it didn't look like it was her show.

Speaker 4:

I might be wrong, I'm gonna be honest with you, raven.

Speaker 3:

I was a young man watching that show. Titties was all right, but they wasn't really bringing niggas to the yard like I promise you niggas, we ain't really like. I'm gonna be honest I have a story where we was all chilling together and we was talking about girls that we like and a nigga said your name and it really like ruined the vibe it was. We was like Raven, simone, my nigga, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 4:

like yeah, she cool, but like that ain't what we talking about right now there was this, this Instagram video that I was watching and this dude was talking about this and he was like this is actually like one of the only shows that I genuinely enjoyed for its content and I did not have a crush on anybody in the show, like I wasn't even on that type of timing with that. So, raven, I can't speak for the. I'm not a man. I was watching that. So, raven, because of the fits she was head to toe that she was putting that shit on, I wanted her wardrobe so bad. But in that video, one of my friends, one of my very good friends, malik, was in the comments and he was like his comment popped up and I died. He was like we didn't even know you had titties shorty.

Speaker 3:

No, they play with them sometimes because they did certain little weird.

Speaker 4:

No, she would do her like yeah, that dance.

Speaker 3:

Remember when she was the old woman and she had him shaking around, yeah, yeah, yeah, but like I don't, think men were sexualizing Raven. I promise you that was one of the rare times I was watching TV and never got aroused Like as a young boy. That show was not that.

Speaker 4:

All of the men came out and they were like we enjoyed the content. We were not objectifying you in the like 2%, 3%, that that happens Like.

Speaker 3:

Hilary Duff exists.

Speaker 4:

Like we didn't have to do that. What do you mean? Who else was on Disney Channel at that time?

Speaker 3:

Even Stevens there was nobody on Even Stevens.

Speaker 4:

No, the sister was cute.

Speaker 3:

The older sister was cute on Even Stevens. Yeah she in the plane. Then Kyla Pratt was doing voice of Penny Proud at the time. Yeah to play. Then, uh, kyla pratt was doing voice of penny proud at the time yeah, but you didn't see her.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, she did. She did movies.

Speaker 3:

I think probably nickelodeon had more baddies over there, but that's probably because they had more creeps over there too yeah, they had bad guys over there, yeah so they were, they were casting nickelodeon was on a different level in that time, but disney I'm trying to remember who else was some other shows, because selena gomez wasn't on there yet no, let me just let me know, hannah montana was sparking.

Speaker 3:

No, that was, that was 2000s, yeah, but so was that's all right. When that, when that's all raven was dropping off, uh, hannah montana, and it was coming up, that's when all the white girls was getting real the big push, because before that you had like, uh, what was the? It was a weird show where it was like they used to go back. It was kind of like, uh, are you scared of the dark? But it was more so like a weird supernatural show I'm looking up the 2000s shows for disney.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because disney had no hannah montana. Sweet life on deck wizards. That was like 2000s, I feel like that's. So. Raven was more like it wasn't.

Speaker 3:

That's already was in the 2000s she used it, not popping up, that's so. Raven used to do little ads. Remember in the middle when they used to have little ads of the kids together. She used to be on there with them. Yeah, then you also had brenda song because she was on the sweet life, but she was. She was in disney stuff beforehand too. She was always in like different movies and stuff like that high school musical kind of came out during that time of when, uh, when raven was doing her thing.

Speaker 4:

I feel like other than lizzie, like they didn't really have baddies on on disney channel for real no, they had the baddies nah, they really didn't. They was like usually side characters.

Speaker 3:

They was usually side characters, the baddies. But you're right, nickelodeon had them better because they had uh, what was the Zoey 101 show Full of baddies? Because Victorious came from that show. She was a baddie. So you're right, nickelodeon had them wiped down, 100%. Nickelodeon had them wiped down, zoey 101, weren't no baddies on iCarly. Huh, ariana Grande was on iCarly.

Speaker 4:

Wasn't she Eventually? No, they did a show with like Sam and iCarly is cute the girl who plays iCarly is cute. She looks like Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2:

Not now.

Speaker 4:

Miranda Cosgrove. She was just on Kai's stream. She look great, she does not look great.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 4:

I'm a feminist. I'm not a feminist. I'm a womanist. I love the women, but that lady, that lady looks like Michael Jackson. That's so disrespectful. She she she looks like um. That's disrespectful to Mike. She looks like the, the soft, the soft thing with the cheeks jigsaw. She looks like jigsaw. That's insane. That's really crazy that you think she cute, her. And um, what's her face? Jeanette, just just too. Wasn't. Wasn't zendaya on disney? She was on disney, so we'll give disney that we'll definitely give.

Speaker 3:

Disney had some girls, that's what I'm saying. They had girls I feel like disney bro, they gave us uh, what's the girl from high school musical the? Uh, the the one who's not latina, but she looks like she's latina.

Speaker 4:

Um damn what's vanessa, yeah, hutchins, yeah, yeah, she's, she's yeah, she's a baddie.

Speaker 3:

They had disney, had them being a disney girl. That used to be like oh okay, she she ready, if she a bit disney girl. She usually was cute. But I we can agree that nick lodi had him wiped out, yeah so. But raven, nobody was talking about you, nobody even know you had titties. Even when you did the cheetah girl.

Speaker 4:

She was everyone's fourth cheetah girl you were my favorite cheetah girl, but that's because you were my favorite. Because of that, so, raven and you were kind of more talented than a lot of unanimously you were all men's fourth cheetah girl, respectfully right yeah, so nobody like that that's even even promise. Is was. Oh no, she wasn't on on cheetah.

Speaker 5:

She was in three, oh yeah even promises promise.

Speaker 4:

Fifths, she was cuter, she had you wiped down.

Speaker 3:

So stop that you. You was the girl. Everybody was just cool to hang with, like you was the home girl she like I feel like she seemed like she would be a really good friend, like very fun to hang with like if you, if she was your friend, you would laugh at the dude that she was with because you knew he was gonna be like nerdy or something like you could tell that the guy that she was gonna pick was gonna be nerdy.

Speaker 4:

She wasn't even gonna pick a guy.

Speaker 3:

She's a full lesbian, yeah, but we're talking about in the general sense you know she's like, but the buzz cut is crazy though now raven.

Speaker 4:

But and I feel I just want to talk about the. The beauty standard back in the day was crazy, because when I look at pictures of raven simone on that's a raven now I'm like what? She was not nowhere near plus size to me now. Oh yeah, like that's really crazy. What was considered plus size in the early 2000s versus now? Night and day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but she did struggle with her weight, though she said.

Speaker 4:

She did, but like it shouldn't have been that big of a struggle because she was not that heavy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but the clothes looked bad. They didn't fit the right way a lot of times on her, so it made her look bigger than what she was, the fashion's on that.

Speaker 4:

So Raven, like she was a designer, she always had cute shit on. And then when they had that room makeover, oh my god, oh my god. Her room, hannah Montana's room, icarly's room, after she got her room makeover. I still dream about those bedrooms to this day that's your dreams bedroom yeah, like my, my inner child would be healed if I got raven's room when she had the bed hanging.

Speaker 3:

Oh, the one thing I will say that was very realistic for raven was the fact that she was an adult. She grew up in a two-parent household in california, whatever went through her whole life, only to then, in her 30s, be sharing the apartment with her friend and their kids. That was like the new, that was like the realest part, like damn, that's real, that's that's life right there yeah, that's what life will be now, because you came from privilege and now because of the economy, is you look like you bought the?

Speaker 4:

struggle kids. Her mom left at the end to go to law school like in europe or some shit. Yeah, they wrote her off.

Speaker 3:

What the fuck had to write her off and we had to get her out of there. We wasn't going french press, french fresh printer. But uh, let's get into what's next, baby we? Got to get into some more serious topics. Y'all know y'all wrong calling that boy a terrorist. We said that they was gonna do that though yeah we said that in the last show.

Speaker 4:

We was joking about he killed a white.

Speaker 3:

No, it's because he was kind of white, he killed oh, yeah, he killed a uh an executive white yeah but no, y'all can say what y'all want and we'll just report on this real quick. They are charging louise. They are planning to charge him with terroristic uh, with terroristic charges in regards to you know his actions. That he did.

Speaker 4:

I just find it very interesting when I was looking through school shooters no terroristic, no terroristic you could shoot up a bunch of kids and not be labeled a terrorist, but you kill one rich white man and oh my goodness and then I'm going to remember when the dude shot up the bar, I think he got killed, didn't he?

Speaker 3:

when he went in and shot up the grocery store, I think he got shot and killed afterwards with him no, no, he did get, no, he did get arrested.

Speaker 4:

He didn't get terrorist the guy who shot up the movie theater. Did he get labeled a terrorist? The guy who shot up the church. Did he get labeled a?

Speaker 3:

terrorist, didn't? I was looking up there, I just recently looked up dylan roof's charges no terrorist charges. And he did. He literally did an act of white supremacy. Yeah, granted, I was reading somewhere too. Else they said that the kkk isn't considered a terrorist group of course they're not, but they are but white nationalism is considered domestic terrorism. So it's weird.

Speaker 4:

Whereas, like you, don't have, then the kkk should automatically be considered I don't know if they're considered that now a terrorist group?

Speaker 3:

I, I thought they were, but I was reading somewhere they were saying that they weren't considered, they were no longer considered that a domestic terrorist group. But I I definitely for my I thought they were always considered that because, like I said, I know the fbi has a whole. They have white nationalism and black uh power sections in there where you can look up, where they talk about that as being forms black power.

Speaker 4:

Don't got no goddamn um there's. There's, nothing's gonna happen like we. We're not terrorists if, if we uh want black power we're not see.

Speaker 3:

That's why they.

Speaker 4:

That's how they painted the, because there's nothing we can do to to dismantle any, any systems well, that doesn't work to require for you to be a terrorist.

Speaker 3:

It's required for you to be terrorists if you taking action for political means or religious means and things of that nature. But, as my argument is, is white nationalism is a terroristic ideal and in this, in this portion, they're trying to say he's a terrorist. And if you ask the questions why it's, the answer is really nasty. When you look that up because you're trying to say he's a terrorist and if you ask the questions why it's, the answer is really nasty. When you look that up because you're trying to say because he killed this person and the reason he did it was because of the injustices of the business, you're saying it's a terroristic act to fight the injustices that you allow corporations to do to us. Yeah, because if anything, you could just say it was murder. Just go about it as normal procedure, normal murder, uh, first degree and call it that when you add this extra sauce on there for being a terroristic threat and or a terroristic attack and all this other shit in new york, mind you I don't think it's.

Speaker 4:

It's considered uh domestic terrorist group still to this day.

Speaker 3:

So see that's what I'm saying, whereas again, they the they tell you exactly how they view this shit and they're very clear on it.

Speaker 4:

You just have to know what you're reading are the black panthers considered a domestic terrorist group?

Speaker 3:

pretty sure they have been. They may have removed it as of recent, but I know they. They used to be considered that like, say, I remember talking about that as a kid. My dad would say certain things because he was taught to look at that as a bad type of revolution or a bad type of resistance. But then you ask the questions to these people. It's like they were doing an interview with this lady who was setting up a fund for luigi's uh law, uh payments and things of that nature. And they asked her like you don't think you're promoting violence and things of that nature? And they asked her like you don't think you're promoting violence and things of that nature, do you think this is the way to change reform health care? But then, in the same breath, on the fbi.

Speaker 4:

It's vaultfbigov. This is where I'm reading this from. The black panther party is a black extremist organization founded in oakland, california, in 1966. It advocated for the use of violence and guerrilla tactics to overthrow the us government. In 1969 the fbi's charlotte field office opened an investigation file to track on the black panther party, to track its militant activities, income and expenses, and then all of the information is after. But that's really crazy.

Speaker 3:

They tell you exactly how they think about this shit and how they police it, how they view it. And again, what they're telling us here is the working class does not have a right to defend themselves. When you call this an act of terrorism, that's essentially what you're saying, because if it was just murder and it was a first degree murder, call it that and it's over with, it's all on tape. You got your quote-unquote evidence. Call it that. But once you do the terrorist shit, now you have this bigger, um, this bigger thing that's opposing the people because they're making a drink. They just threw a woman in jail for just saying that over the phone to her insurance carrier yeah, in florida I saw that so they're telling you no, this is how the system is going to go.

Speaker 3:

In any acts of resistance again? I was warning people of this, didn't I say? This is why they're doing all the cop, city shit and stuff, because they know people are going to gear up to revolt, and especially under this new president. They just seen a tax is about to go up. Everybody taxes going up except the rich I saw that and it stressed me out. I told people I was like I was sitting there, like this is what y'all voted for. Y'all did y'all not know?

Speaker 4:

this is what historically republicans do, schools getting shut down and the department of education is getting shut down and tariffs are about to make everything go up and your taxes are going to go up too, so I don't know what the next four years. The next four years are about to be a real struggle like we're. We were already strapped, we're already struggling. Everything's already expensive trump is talking about. He doesn't even know how to get the prices of groceries back down, because once they go up, it's hard to get them back down. What does that mean? I don't know what that means. So it's.

Speaker 3:

It's just about to be a struggle for the for the next couple years and then also we have president elon, who's over here telling everybody that we need to not, you know sign in the budget coming in. He's trying to hold a defund the the fucking government for 30 days. So now when he says, oh, we can, we can survive 30 days, do y'all not know how many people are going to lose out on their check? Like overseas, like what do y'all? Y'all do not understand what y'all are doing, and y'all again. We just allowed this clown who accidentally bought a twitter to now run the country it's just and he's not american did.

Speaker 4:

Do you think he bought twitter to do this specifically?

Speaker 3:

no, he bought it as an accident and he just ran with it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, essentially you, it's white people fail up yeah, they do so when he did that and he got caught up in that, now he said okay, now y'all gonna make, y'all gonna try to make me do this cool, I'm about to become the villain that this logically takes me to and that's just what he did. And again, I don't. I see that we've allowed this and it's just so crazy to me. I've seen a meme that was so funny where they said y'all crying about billionaires who are trying to put chips in our heads, but then you voted for the nigga who's endorsed by the billionaire who's trying to put chips in your head people aren't smart they don't, they're not thinking really quickly while we're on elon must.

Speaker 4:

did you see nick jonas's tweet that that said Elon is going to take us to 3000? And then, subsequently, all of the little girls who fell in love with him during, like the Disney Channel, the Jonas Brothers and stuff, been making TikToks like fuck this guy, who is this guy? We had no idea he was such a big piece of shit bag.

Speaker 3:

dicks Y'all should look up what his wife believes, his older wife are they still together?

Speaker 4:

yeah, okay, I thought they weren't together anymore.

Speaker 3:

I don't know why she is. Remember how I described jv vance's wife. That's how she is too. She is one of those uh nose stuck up conservative immigrants.

Speaker 4:

Did you know that she was kicked out of bollywood because she had an affair with somebody's um husband and bollywood because she had an affair with somebody's um husband and the? The man who she had an affair with was like one of the biggest bollywood like actors?

Speaker 3:

I didn't know, point blank period. So yes, yes she like.

Speaker 4:

This happened allegedly. I'll put, I'll throw allegedly in there. But um she, um, she had an affair with this man who was very publicly married, and then the wife is the one who, like, blackballed her. It was like no more of you. So then she had to come to the United States, and that's when she got her career started here.

Speaker 3:

No, I remember when she was on Quantico and everything but no, like you got to understand. I remember Quantico. Most times when that happens, those people generally are super conservative right-wing people, like more often than not. So that's why it doesn't surprise me that she has those kind of feelings, because duh like that's. That probably is what pushed you up in your community, but yeah all the little girls was like fuck you and your diabetes.

Speaker 4:

I love that I love it.

Speaker 3:

All right. So this is. I want to read this and I believe this is what it was come from, but I don't want to hear your thoughts on it before I tell you where this stems from. So women are the only hope for this rich world. But even women have been brainwashed by the Mords. For too long They've been internalized the patriarchy and turned on each other, always begging for the male approval and validation. It's disgusting. I realize the truth. Men are inred. Irredeemable rad fin hitler. What is was was is fucking vindicated. Now they can't be reformed or redeemed. They're, they're a fucking scourge upon the earth. The only solution is a total extermination.

Speaker 3:

Them and every Ford who worships these fucking parasites. Every single male must be wiped out, from baby to the elderly. Only then can women be free to create a new world. I'll be a pioneer. I'll be the first to take the first step. I don't care If they're fathers, brothers, husbands, sons, teachers, police and especially niggers or politicians. I've been craving to kill them all. This is my mission. Only when their parasitic sludge has been expunged from this earth is when, and when then the world?

Speaker 3:

somebody told ai to write this and women can start over. It is the only way. In approximately 10 minutes, c should be dead. It's strange, but it feels good. So what do you think about that? I think she killed her husband after that, but also that was the that was allegedly from the person who shot the school in wisconsin. The girl who shot the school in wisconsin oh, why was that?

Speaker 4:

I was giving her finger claps. You should have told me that before.

Speaker 2:

You sicko, you're a fucking sicko, you're a rad femme sicko.

Speaker 4:

I was giving her little finger claps Okay, because that's absolutely insane Before you told me that that was from a school shooter. I was about to be like, yes, girl, kill all of them, put him, jaylen lebron, in a cage. And we just have them reproduce.

Speaker 3:

She said niggas who she?

Speaker 4:

want the most, though. No, no, not that. Put lebron jaylen hurts in a cage and then kill the rest of them. Kill the rest of them, but no, okay, now that I get have, I have more context. Oh, yeah, now right. Um, that's insane yeah, so she wrote that and then went and shot up a school full of children uh, I think it was, yeah, a school.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if a school, for I know she. I think they said she killed two people and injured five. Were they all men? They wouldn't specify the victims.

Speaker 4:

I need that specification because, bitch, if you did all that and then you went in there and you accidentally shot some women, Okay, no, they said at least five killed and six injured. Now, so yeah, I need the genders 15-year-old girl.

Speaker 3:

who did that? Genders 15 year old girl who did that? That's yeah, she's a 15 year old girl that's insane.

Speaker 4:

All that shit was in her head. What trauma had she experienced with the men in her life to make her feel like that? At 15 years old, like she's probably been getting all sorts of violated by men from the the moment she's been here so this is what they have, because that's not a normal amount of anger so at all.

Speaker 3:

This was an older post especially for a woman no, this is hold on. This is an older post. They said the shooter was one person who was dead teenager she's dead yeah, the shooter oh my god then they said because she I think she killed herself okay and then there's another student who's a?

Speaker 3:

teenager, one teacher at the time, then they had 600 students too. Seriously, that was just at that particular moment, so I'm just, you know, I didn't get to gather all the information from it, but no, yeah, it was, it was rough, that was that. And then the crazy thing, damn, that happened and right like after the terrorism statements had been put on luigi, like it was kind of like almost within that same uh hour. For me, I think I remember seeing it it was just like back to our regularly scheduled programming. Yeah, just for that to happen. And you know they're gonna go off the whole left shit to her being a rad feminist and all that. They're gonna. They can't wait to get on that yeah, whatever they're gonna be on that, that meat.

Speaker 3:

They're gonna be on the bone of that meat for a while.

Speaker 2:

But what's her name?

Speaker 3:

what was the girl's name? Yeah, I don't think that's in good taste to give that person her name I didn't actually see her name.

Speaker 3:

Anyway, if her name isn't a news and her name isn't a no, but I think when I say in good taste, I mean because it's like make, giving them what they want. They want to be a super. You know they want to go out in a blaze of glory and you're giving them a light and a stardom when you say they're but uh, rip to all the family. You know people who lost their life.

Speaker 4:

That sucks man.

Speaker 3:

Condolences to the family um, get rid of guns, and then CEOs and kids on with it.

Speaker 4:

Damn, you should have went and killed some grown men, then I would have, like I would have. That's sick yo that's nasty.

Speaker 3:

What if I'm a victim of somebody thinking that I'm just a bad guy?

Speaker 4:

It just sucks that you're a man.

Speaker 3:

So I just have to be a byproduct of somebody else's revolution.

Speaker 4:

Like it's just a caution, like's just it's just a um caution. Like what, what is it called?

Speaker 3:

my thing is this it's a danger.

Speaker 4:

It's a cautionary tale cautionary yeah, it's with caution of being a man.

Speaker 3:

This you know how? No, women really don't even really want that, by and large, because y'all didn't watch. Why, uh, the last man on earth, y'all didn't watch. Why, the Last man on Earth? Y'all don't remember that show that was on FX a while ago. It was based off a book. I did. A lot of women didn't watch that show.

Speaker 4:

I watched that show. What does that have to do with that?

Speaker 3:

The fact that it got canceled before the season was even over with. I'm saying that a lot of women don't want that whole idea of a world where there's no men.

Speaker 4:

It's because everyone on that show was ugly. That has nothing to do with why people, that has a very big yes why people didn't watch. The last man on earth was ugly. And then the the one, the one lady that she found was that was the lady who voices fucking tino bob's burgers. I hate her face, I hate her, her voice and I hate the way that her mouth moves when she, when she talks the girl he was. I could barely get through three episodes of that shit. After she was on that show I was like everyone on here is so unbearably ugly. And then the writing wasn't that great and it wasn't that fucking funny. I don't think you ate with that at all no, I'm telling you, the book was.

Speaker 3:

The book sold a whole bunch. What are you talking about? It's a good book. They went based off the book the, the show.

Speaker 4:

There's so many things that are based off the book and the show you're talking about the writing. No well, the writing for the show, not the book.

Speaker 3:

But I'm saying the writing that they did on the show. That was literally almost. It wasn't work for, it wasn't a one for one, but it was it wasn't funny it wasn't supposed to be funny. You're talking about the comedy on fox. Yes, I'm talking about on fx. There's a book called. I'm not talking about the last man on earth.

Speaker 4:

It's about why the dude's name is why okay, because we're talking about two completely different shows.

Speaker 3:

You're talking about the comedy yeah I'm talking about. This is a drama okay it's called why? The last man on earth? Yeah, because the dude's name is why they catching strays on that show.

Speaker 3:

But everyone on that show was ugly like that's what I'm saying, like you're saying that the person I'm like and I feel like there was more than one season of that show too yeah, but see, that show is different too, because that show had other men that were the why. The last man is a show about a virus that goes around and kills every man on the planet, and so they all die from it. If so, and there's only one dude who's who's a man, is he ugly, ugly?

Speaker 3:

I mean I wouldn't fuck him, but but no then that's why I said that show got canceled and it didn't stay. I was going to say because this was the girl who was the lead of the show. That's why I was surprised you was calling people ugly, because she's not an ugly girl.

Speaker 4:

No, no, she's not. She has a very striking bone. Um yeah, I've never seen that show before that's the dude who played.

Speaker 3:

Why that was the last man oh yeah, I've never.

Speaker 4:

I've never come across it got canceled the first season.

Speaker 3:

Um before the before the season was over with, they canceled the show you sure it didn't just suck. I liked it, it was good and it was from a popular book. It was just nobody.

Speaker 4:

There's not gonna be a big audience maybe the promotion just wasn't that because I've, I've never, I saw it everywhere.

Speaker 3:

Okay, but I just know a lot of you guys see, it's going to already throw off a lot of men unless they know the comic book. So if they don't know the comic book it's already going to throw off a lot of men. Oh, you're saying the men are going to die and then if women don't want to watch it, it's definitely not going to catch on because it's a show literally strictly mostly women who are the leads, like the dude. He barely he talks, but he's not that much of a lead in the show, even though he's he's. He's the title character. It's about how women respond to the, to the lack of men. So it was crazy. It was a really good show. I thought you would like it yeah, I've never heard of it we got a shit on a black woman.

Speaker 3:

We got to do it. Malika andrews. She was recently in an interview where she was questioned about her disdain. Well, what it comes off as her disdain for black men and the commentary around that, you know she did her little bullshit. I love black man. It's so disheartening. Why didn't you marry one, you swirler? What is it so? It's not snow bunnies for men? What? What are the? What are men? What did y'all call them? What do y'all call the white girls? That they're like the snow bunnies. Don't you say the guys say that oh, um, I don't I don't know snow leopards.

Speaker 4:

There's no name for it. I don't call them anything.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so you don't like the the pale man.

Speaker 4:

She's a black woman that married a white man. The only thing is bed winch.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we can go with that. We'll go with that.

Speaker 4:

But that's not the best.

Speaker 3:

I don't think she's just being fair to what she has brought out to people to make her think like this. She's done this to herself. It's not people's fault, because she'll try to say say oh, I'm just doing my job. I'm just trying to do my job. You. You make choices, though there's a way that you particularly do that. Some of the stuff I'm not mad about are you familiar with, uh, with some of the stuff that she's been accused of in regards to?

Speaker 4:

I'm not so like why do? Why do people think that she has like a specific vitriol towards black men specifically?

Speaker 3:

so a lot of her reporting and her analysis that comes around is is the reason why. So one of the instances more recently there's a guy named brandon milley plays for the hornet. He was involved in a situation where he had brought somebody else's gun to them and shortly after that individual used that gun to kill his girlfriend and so he was was involved in it.

Speaker 3:

He didn't get charged with anything. He was let go. He didn't. He said he didn't do no wrongdoing, but she brought that up on draft night to him and that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Also, there was another player who passed away. He actually played for the Hawks not too long ago too, and when he passed away, when she was reporting that, she also added in the fact that he had sexual assault allegations, that she had he had sexual assault allegations.

Speaker 3:

Um, while she was reporting his death, people thought that was a very taste sensitive yeah, and then there's another instance with the coach of the bosses, the former coach of the boston celtics, now the coach of the houston rockets, where he was involved in sleeping with staff at the arena or whatever that worked at the arena. Not really the arena worked for the team and when brought up about the woman who was involved, she was very defensive and was like no, the focus needs to be on him. He's the person who is the coach and all this other stuff.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because he's the person who's in the position of power.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but she was also a position of power too, and she was somebody's wife that worked up there as well.

Speaker 4:

Are you talking about um?

Speaker 3:

in Munkadoka.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, okay, ex-husband, that was never her husband. Okay, neal's ex-boyfriend.

Speaker 3:

She was strictly a baby mama. Don't do Ne he did. Don't talk to me, talk to the nigga who strung her along.

Speaker 4:

Somebody put a white uh ring on nia long's finger, but she might not want that, who knows I'm sure, but uh, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So now that was where a lot, a lot of that came from in regards to her vitro and to me. I understand I feel it.

Speaker 3:

To me it don't come from just a whole oh you dating a white guy. No, it comes to just your overall, like the way that she's talked to stephen a, where she's discussed stephen a. And I've seen you, malika, when it comes to your white counterparts, and it's not the same. You do not treat the white male athletes and your white counterparts the same or speak to them the same, with the same vigor that you do the black ones so if there are white male athletes that she's talking about that have allegations of any sort of, like violence or sexual misconduct, she doesn't bring it up, we can go josh giddy, okay, and I won't be um intellectually honest with this.

Speaker 3:

I too felt like the josh giddy wasn't a story, that it was a non-factor because of the sources of the information and what we had been receiving. But when she did report on it it was lackluster and it did lack some of that vigor. I I say understandably because it wasn't to me, it wasn't anything really that you could go off of. But there has been other instances with other white people that she just didn't bring the vigor the way that uh, she brought with her, like I said, the black.

Speaker 2:

They're black counterparts okay, so I mean I'm we're gonna hold you accountable.

Speaker 3:

You got it. You have to be better she.

Speaker 4:

She came out and said something right. She made a statement.

Speaker 3:

That was an interview where she, where they asked her about you know they're going to give her the pc way to ask the question, but they asked her about the outcry in that regard and she just basically said she's disheartened by you. Know, just the the same jazz. They always say I'm disheartened by it and that's not my character and all that. No, but we're looking at you and there's the evidence is daunting.

Speaker 4:

And she's married to a white man right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that works for ESPN as well.

Speaker 4:

So it doesn't. When you're married to a white man and it looks like you're consistently shitting on black men, it's not going to make you look good. You got to. You got to have hate for all of the men across the board, like I do, because can't nobody say it's disproportionate on one end or another. On for me, like it's just spread it evenly. Just spread the hate evenly across all of the men of all of the races, and that's my advice for you also.

Speaker 3:

She has a white mama, oh no, so that's another reason why you can't trust her.

Speaker 2:

So did her daddy leave.

Speaker 4:

No, they was together okay, but no, she got a white mom and her mama wrote a book, right.

Speaker 3:

So let me tell you about how maliga thinks, because her mama wrote a book. Coffee with cream is what it's called coffee with cream. Being a mixed race child and not looking like your mom can be tough. This children book emphasizes how a child can look different from their parent and still match in many important ways. I don't want it. I don't want it?

Speaker 4:

No, you need to hear this.

Speaker 3:

Hear this, Hear this. I was picking up my oldest daughter from preschool. I read a list posted in the classroom that asked what do you think is the hold on what you think is beautiful? Malika answered was my mama is beautiful. Later I thanked her for the compliment she asked if ours. The only reason I'm reading like this because I have to scroll across if our skin would match. It's still gonna be too far if I do it like geriatric ass nigga it's still gonna be too far. I still gotta scroll over, okay, negra uh but, yeah, she said later.

Speaker 3:

Later I thanked her for the compliment. She asked if our skin would match when she grew up. When she realized that we would never match, she was devastated why you ain't want to look like your daddy this story. Well, she don't look like her daddy. The story tells of how I responded to her reaction, transforming a difficult moment into a beautiful one. So clearly there is a level of self-hate in her yeah very clear that's.

Speaker 4:

That's the problem when they be having the white mamas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that it Trying to tell you Watch out for the ones with the white mamas, run away, run away. Every time, tough on experience, run away, run away. But no, I'm glad we got that. Let's get into this Lil Baby album. So you excited about it. He announced that he's dropping an album next year.

Speaker 4:

Fuck Lil Baby. Like don't nobody give a fuck that Lil Baby is dropping an album. You fucking overgrown, fucking pit bull. He done smacked so many. He done smacked so many bitches at this point, Lil.

Speaker 2:

Baby has.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I thought you said the baby my bad. Keep that in, though. Keep that in my bad, my bad little baby that wasn't for you, that was.

Speaker 3:

That was like what are you doing?

Speaker 4:

that was for the baby, little baby. I don't listen to little baby. That's not my type of, that's not my type of music. I don't. I don't get down with type that type of niggerdom but that was nuts um, I like little baby, though I think I like the way he's been moving lately. I think he's been moving like a young man who has a good head on his shoulders. I think he's been moving like somebody who has a healthy fear of punishment in jail.

Speaker 5:

He just took my shit, that's fucked up, that's fucked up, that's fucked up um I, but that's that's.

Speaker 4:

That's that's how I feel, like that's what we were talking about earlier.

Speaker 3:

But you didn't have to do my healthy that.

Speaker 4:

That was my bar, yeah that's your and I took it and I got it all period, you didn't even say it.

Speaker 3:

Fly you're supposed to be like. And he has the superpower that none of his friends, none of his his uh colleagues have of. He has a healthy fear of going to prison.

Speaker 4:

He has something that I don't know, none of these are the niggas half, but he did um, that's his colleague, they did an album together oh, they whole album together. Yeah, I did not know that. Not the type of niggerdom that I get down with, like I'm a Kendrick Smino.

Speaker 3:

Amine Cole type of girly. You like Ken Carson? Who Ken Carson, I think?

Speaker 4:

that's how his name goes. I don't know who that is, he's one of the new niggas that's coming up. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I don't know who that is, because I don't know none of the new hip-hop niggas. Like you know, I've been listening to african music, but did you want to go? I forgot what I was gonna say go, oh no, I was just gonna say just the thing with little baby, where I think his trajectory and everything that's kind of just been going on with his career, his ups and his down, it seems a large part be like I said, because of that fact that he has that fear music was going a particular direction and it was a direction was gonna lead a lot of y'all niggas in jail and he kind of fell back off of it he did um an interview with yadi and he was talking about why he stopped the group for pf he disbanded four pockets full.

Speaker 3:

That's what it we know why you stopped it because fanny put your fucking name on a list yeah, um, but he was.

Speaker 4:

He was talking about how, like he, he said that he realized that he would be held accountable for other people's actions and he can't control other people's actions. So he was just like fuck that, which is like so smart. I just I'm so glad that he talked about why he did what he did and the fact that he's young and so many young men look up to him and so many young men like him him sitting down with yadi, who's another young man, and talking about how, like yo, this, it just wasn't smart for me to do this yeah so I decided not to thank you like thank you.

Speaker 4:

So so so much. The fucking.

Speaker 3:

The bar is in hell, but thank you because if you know anything about what Lil Baby has going on, you know there's beef and stuff that people wanted him to address in the music that he just stood a large part away from, even though he was moving like he was ready for action. Remember that picture of that gun?

Speaker 4:

He had a gun in his but that's just how he moves, and guns are legal here.

Speaker 3:

He just had a shoot. He just had a shoot and one of his video shoots a couple months ago.

Speaker 4:

So he to shoot? And when his video shoots a couple months ago, so yeah, so he's, he's gonna protect himself regardless yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3:

I understand where he's coming from with it. It's just, this is one of those unfortunate things with hip-hop where, if you don't go to crash out, you're not gonna elevate either, because I don't really see a lot of people have been saying that his music has been trash lately a lot of people.

Speaker 4:

That's it's probably because, because he hasn't been talking about crimes and doing the fairest things.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean essentially he hasn't because of where he at at in the vein of music. In regards to what people looked at him and where he was going, they they're. This is what was expected. He was supposed to follow into what dirk was doing and what, uh, young, young and ace and all of them was doing was getting into that more aggressive, gritty rap and he stood away from it and, to the point, but you didn't make good music when you were doing it.

Speaker 4:

You needed gonna you, and then he also talked about why he don't make music with snitches.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, which, like he took back the gunna shit, though now right he said that one of the recent shows. I believe he's show gonna love, or that's okay. I hope he did, because y'all need gonna like yeah gonna was the song.

Speaker 4:

Y'all need him. He's the creative guy who's not, who wasn't really doing any of the crime. Y'all should have protected him at all costs, which is what I kind of think that they did, which is why I think they're letting him back in, because y'all know y'all need him.

Speaker 3:

He has, he has the thing I told you before I used to. I used to talk to somebody who went to school with him in high school, yeah, and so she said, like he was a, he was never no street nigga, he was always into music and the arts and all that other shit. So, like I said, he is the sauce for them. Yeah, he's, he can take. I don't know if you uh watch snowfall, but there was a dude in snowfall who was rapping what everybody was doing. He can take y'all lived experiences and make it sound, fly on a record but I feel like it's just a little sticky.

Speaker 4:

If y'all talking about crime, I feel like y'all need to just stop talking about crime. And if y'all want to talk about crime, then talk about some like, just make some shit up. I don't know the the whole like authenticity in what you're doing thing. I don't think it's necessary anymore. I feel like it can just be an art form and y'all can tell stories of like maybe people you know like go to the hood, ask people like what's been going on, tell other people stories, but you don't need to be in this.

Speaker 3:

That shit can't, can't, do that shit. No more. Niggas want a piece now.

Speaker 4:

Don't, don't wrap my story and make a million dollars and don't give me nothing well, that's because niggas think that they could wrap their own story and make millions before they go to jail or get shot up or it's like nigga, you didn't get shot at for that story. Nigga like no, don't, you don't get that, you can't eat off that but there's always music, has always been storytelling, like people have always told other people's stories. There's folk tales tell other people's stories. Why can't hip-hop be the same?

Speaker 4:

no, you can't telling, it's just telling, telling stories of the disenfranchised people in the hood. You made it out.

Speaker 3:

You can use your platform to to you can, but when a nigga hear his story, come out your mouth. He's calling you up and saying nigga, hey, where's my cut?

Speaker 3:

that's why, there, there should be a cut if you're using a specific nigga story yeah, or if you're, but see, what they'll do is say I'm, I'm an artist, I'm generalizing where it's like no, I took everything you did and just called you curtis instead of thomas, and so now that's the change of the story. So that's where it just it gets iffy from. Hey man, make good music. I I don't care, I like six, nine. So if you can make something that sound good, you don't have to be for real. For me you don't gotta be.

Speaker 4:

I ain't with all that I tell y'all all the time that this nigga has the worst taste in music like what you like. Six, nine, I listened to him.

Speaker 3:

He made good, it bumped, it bumped. All right, let's get into the spaces.

Speaker 4:

Update man, it's, it's been, it was a d-day give me, like at least 30 seconds to get over the, the like pure, very intense form of disappointment that I'm feeling right now we're about to wrap up. So let's get the space up.

Speaker 3:

Okay, fuck me, it was D day in spaces the other day. It was rough. We had a day that I never thought would ever come. But man, so it started off. We gotta blame the list. I think it's only right, like the list created the length. I didn't create the language, but it rejuvenated the language that was needed for everything else to happen these niggas in the spaces.

Speaker 4:

I guess there's somebody who makes a list shout out to the engineer like of like respect on engineer the, the most attractive women in the twitter spaces. Like you remember how, how on in like 20 fucking 10 on facebook, where we used to make the facebook pages of like, did that on my space flyest or like best dress.

Speaker 3:

Like that's what these grown ass adults are doing I'm sorry y'all are catching strays not too much on the. On the engineer. He's a real one. He posts our stuff all the time he.

Speaker 4:

First of all, I know I know and I fuck with you heavy, but but if I fuck with you I feel like I can also critique you a little bit and I feel like it's not crazy for me to say that as a grown-ass man. Y'all are making lists like we used to in high school. We haven't aged out of this. I'm with it, okay. And then also, in general, I feel like everyone in the spaces is a little crazy. We are, we're insane, we're insane individuals.

Speaker 3:

The only thing I don't like about the engineer is that he's a cowboy thing. Everything else he's a great guy, my thing. The only thing I don't like about the engineer is that he's a cowboy fan.

Speaker 4:

Everything else he's a great guy. Outstanding individual. He's. He's great. He supports us a lot. He, he comments, he's yeah, I thought we're gonna do yeah I ain't mad at your list, big dog.

Speaker 3:

It just started. It did come from this, and it wasn't just the engineer, but it was a bunch of other guys that joined him as well.

Speaker 4:

That that made this list up, so just to get the ladies that are mad about being not being on this list, or where they are, on this list girl come on, we knew the f-150 weren't gonna be on the list girl that's besides the point.

Speaker 3:

That's besides the point, so let's get into. The list happens. People were called colorist because the way that the list came out, a lot of the lighter skinned women were above at the top and there were darker skin skin women that people argued were should be at the higher. I don't care about arguing the list. Then it happens in our space. So one of the people in our space is a lady just made a a remark about someone being dark skinned and that's why they're mad, and that turned into why would they be mad?

Speaker 4:

because they're dark skinned.

Speaker 3:

Explain quick well, I don't know why I'm not gonna argue for that.

Speaker 4:

I call that colorism no, but please leave your explanation in the comments, if you're watching this right now, specifically, what's her name? Yes, yes, why would somebody be mad? Because they're fucking dark skin? Please very quickly explain your goddamn self she then comes on because is that? Is that something that they should be mad about because they're dark skin?

Speaker 3:

she then. She then comes on stage Because is that something that they should be mad about? Because they're dark-skinned. She then comes on stage, doesn't apologize about it, double downs on. She don't care what people think or say about it. Cool. That then erupts everything.

Speaker 4:

People who are not open to like discussion usually don't give a fuck what other people think.

Speaker 3:

I mean, that's when you're standing on something bad like that, yeah, what they just said. When you're standing on something bad like that, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4:

When you're standing on something bad like that, something that you know there's no reason to stand on it like you, just double down on your fucking nonsense the next day the spaces come in and my boy dub is holding it down like a legend. We in the spaces.

Speaker 3:

Grandpa rick comes on stage. Rick comes on. Uh, rocky comes on stage. It starts to get into this conversation regarding information, and then doxing came up people what was rocky's um opinion on the, the whole colorism thing.

Speaker 4:

Oh no she said it was.

Speaker 3:

She's not cool with that. Rocky never is cool with the colorism shit, like she thinks that's lame as fuck.

Speaker 3:

So shout out to rocky but no she comes in and in the midst of all of this energy being produced from this statement, everybody's taking shots at everybody and unfortunately, Grandpa Rick, it was the wrong day. Shawty flew too close to the sun, Rocky exposed her name and then somebody Yaz put other information out where it showed her full name and where she worked at, and all this other stuff from her LinkedIn page and y'all need to take y'all linkedins down like or not, put your picture up, probably the best thing why is your linkedin not private?

Speaker 3:

well, you can still have a private so I can still pick a picture of it, have your name and all that stuff, yeah, but all of all, of the information like where you worked and all that stuff wouldn't. It's not available if you're not friends with that person I mean, they had information they was able to get to it. So yeah, but that's because her linkedin isn't private yeah, it could be, or they could have liked it and she let them in.

Speaker 4:

They don't yeah you have to send a friend request and her accepted for that to happen.

Speaker 3:

But whatever, go ahead, but yeah so they they exposed the linkedin page, which I know the conversation of doxan became uh, but unfortunately, once you put it online on another website, it's as the king of someone who's already done this it's not doxing.

Speaker 4:

If somebody types in your name and that's one of they didn't even have to scroll, pat down the google to click on whatever the fuck information they found. It's not doxing.

Speaker 3:

Doxing is like you have to go find information that's not readily available, and it also is about your intent on when you put that information out. So what are you intending to do? Is the bigger argument. Any lawyer could probably argue that just posting it, you're trying to invoke some type of flames, and anything like that can happen, but that's neither here nor there. It ran Shawty off the app Because it was really sad too, because was like listening to her because I wasn't on the stage.

Speaker 3:

I got off stage, I'm listening and I can hear. Once rocky said the name and she was right because you tried to play it off like she was wrong. Then she started spelling it and all the other stuff, and then the the post came up. It ran off to. Everybody was reveling in that too. They was taking screenshots of her, her page saying is now it's gone, and all this other stuff. I felt bad, because I know she's probably embarrassed when that happened. You should be embarrassed, and the problem is is because a lot of this stuff happened to me, though, too, and it just wasn't looked at the same way. I don't she. She led a little bit a lot with her. Uh, what is it? What's the?

Speaker 3:

word ambiguity what's the yeah?

Speaker 4:

not being anonymity.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, her name anonymity she she ran largely with that, so that was one of her big things you would see her tweet about and all the other stuff. Y'all don't know who I am. So when you lead like that, you create a glass house that can easily be broken the thing. When it happened with me like when joe said my name my name is on my handle I never was trying to hide anything about me or anything who I was, and then everybody in the spaces knew that you had a podcast where your full fucking face is on goddamn camera.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like, what are we doing here? So you're not exposing somebody who is records themselves on a weekly basis. No, I know, I know, I was just saying when it happened to me.

Speaker 3:

It didn't affect the same way because I was never hiding my name. No, like when everybody said that, oh, joe knows your name, I was like, yeah, look at my handle, guys, it's in my name, I'm not hiding who I am. So I think that was one of the reasons it happened. But, like I said, I did the whole thing with jaywan, with the whole yeah, posting the once you're getting off of linkedin and all that, all these other websites that you've given the okay to. That's what those terms and conditions are telling you.

Speaker 3:

Somebody reposting that isn't inherently, uh, wrong. Now, if they're, if you're trying to make a argument, they were trying to intimidate you. Because now, after that happened, there were some language used that if I'm a good lawyer and I have that, you know, recorded, it's going to be easy to say, hey, look at this intent, look at this. They were talking about having it for months. But I feel bad for for grandpa richard's overall, because I know that you know that nobody wants to be embarrassed like that and if she wasn't like she did anything wrong, like she didn't think bad, like her job was, it was a normal ass job. But it's just you. You built this castle on this type of sand, and when the wind came, it just blew it all away so y'all never knew like who she was or anything like we know what she looked like because she had her her picture in her avi.

Speaker 3:

But we didn't care to know her name, we just called her grandpa rick yeah but no it's. I just want everybody know man me and danny should be we're not the nasty ones in this. I feel like everybody kept bringing it back to us the nasty ones in this is the.

Speaker 4:

The color is bitches in the first place. Yeah, like the the nasty ones. I still need an answer to that fucking question, because why would somebody be, um, mad because they're dark skin, unless you think that dark skin is something to be mad about or worse in some way? Like I need an answer for that 100 because I think you're a weird ass, the the weirdest of um. It's unfortunate that grandpa rick felt like she had to hide, but you only feel like you have to run and hide after you say fucked up, shit and she was going crazy on, so so it was all part of the game.

Speaker 4:

That's a. That's a. That's a bed that you made, that you're lying in now and I don't feel bad yeah, it'll be all right, that's unfortunate, but like, that's just the consequences of your actions and that's what we have to face as adults. So that's just the world, yeah, and then I was going crazy too.

Speaker 3:

Earlier that morning I was calling people sister soldier yeah, I heard you, I was going wild.

Speaker 4:

Thank you for defending me, baby, oh, always, always, I love you very much.

Speaker 3:

I just didn't like the, the inconsistencies of people trying to act like they were these folks who held these standards. But it's like no, there's people that y'all cool with. That was disrespectful to a black woman off of her hair, and you know that's coded Like. Don't act like she's just. I said you're making fun of a black woman as like you know the joke that we'll say. No like y'all are.

Speaker 4:

You're, everybody was. It was so many crash outs that day like y'all can't do that weird fake like shady shit around me, I'm aggressive, aggressive. So and then if you bitch like weird ass, bitch it just felt like afterwards too, man.

Speaker 3:

I felt like what the people in japan after hiroshima happened. That's how I felt in the spaces, spaces. I saw people's shadows on the wall after the bomb and shit. I'm like, oh man, what the fuck happened here. It was wild man. They still on top of talking about it now.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I heard you earlier, and somebody said something about stop being light-skinned.

Speaker 3:

They weren't talking about me though.

Speaker 4:

No, but somebody said that and somebody else was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3:

We're not doing that, we're not doing that. Yeah, boy, so crazy.

Speaker 4:

That was mike shaw, I'll tell him your real one but no um, overall, man, we're going to recover.

Speaker 3:

The spaces are going to recover you know grandpa rick will be back.

Speaker 4:

I feel like because y'all are literally addicted to the, the spaces and the amount of attention that y'all get when y'all are in there it was so dope rocky I will say this, though rocky did that.

Speaker 3:

She played that one good, though, because she didn't post anything. She just read off the girl name or whatever, and then somebody else then yes, came and posted it.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, rocky's hands is clean and all, yes, came and posted it, but we're her and her, not friends no, she, they had.

Speaker 3:

They actually just had like a back and forth the night before so that's why she was really like had motivated to do okay but y'all, hey, man, there's always gonna be consequences to come, more consequences to come.

Speaker 4:

It is what it is one of the ladies that was yelling who in the at 10 o'clock in the morning about the, the nigga that they was both fucking.

Speaker 3:

No, that wasn't her okay, that wasn't her but no, it's just so many colorful people in those spaces, oh yes, very, very colorful, but no, I just I think that's a good place to wrap up here, man, just to know that the spaces are a dangerous place, man, people will expose you, so try not to hide anything. I guess that's all you can do. Was there anything else you wanted to touch on?

Speaker 4:

no, that was everything, baby, all right, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 3:

Well, I want to thank y'all for listening to Talk FNF TV. Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family. The only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations. Let them know what they need to do, baby.

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