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Drake SUES UMG, DJ Akademiks Exposes LeBron's Infidelity, Cam'ron vs. Jim Jones FEUD, and Lord Jamar BODIED for Flat Earth Theory- Talk FNF TV
What if the public's fascination with celebrity relationships is more about societal expectations than genuine interest? We kick off with a bold exploration of the pressures placed on high-profile Black couples, from the whispered infidelity rumors surrounding LeBron James to the rollercoaster saga of Cardi B and Offset. As we dissect these narratives, we uncover how public perceptions influence family dynamics and question the realism behind the ideals we project onto these relationships.
Shifting gears, we navigate the intricate world of hip-hop, unpacking the cultural currency of reputation and the impact of rumors on personal and professional lives. From the fiery feud between Cam'ron and Jim Jones to Drake's defamation lawsuit against Universal Music Group, we scrutinize the challenges artists face when balancing artistic expression with legal liabilities. Our conversation also takes a humorous detour into the realm of flat Earth theories and the rise of the Chinese app Red Note amidst TikTok's uncertain future.
As we wrap up, the moral tightrope of public shaming and viral content takes center stage. We confront the tragic consequences of online scrutiny and debate the ethics of involving children in celebrity disputes. With a nod to the offspring of celebrities struggling to carve out their own identities, we reflect on the expectations they face and the pressures of pursuing success outside their parents' shadows. Throughout the episode, we emphasize the power of truth and encourage listener engagement, ensuring authentic stories find their audience.
you, you, you. Why is your d**k out in public? Tell me, tell me any rational reason, other than a psychotic break, that you would have your d*** out in public, that it is okay whack 100.
Speaker 2:Beat me up, let's move on doing the same thing. So what is?
Speaker 1:your argument like he didn't come out and say that he was cheating she did. As soon as she cheated, he came out and was like boohoo, you cheated with the baby in you. That's crazy too.
Speaker 2:Like come on now he didn't say drake's name in the song, if he didn't, uh, imply what he was implying. Like people try to act like when he said hey, drake, you like him? Young talking about he talking, 19 year old, 20 year old? No, you don't go to jail, you don't go to cell block one for dealing with a 19 year old. You go dealing with for someone who's underage we we love that.
Speaker 1:He's an upstanding black man with a black wife who has a black family and they're successful with no drama. We love that. We want them to thrive and keep being that, but it's not necessarily realistic. This is a rich ass man who's been with this lady since high school. You think he ain't not. He hasn't dipped in anything else the whole time like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:If you ask drew sador, she said that she got lebron why are you the side? And I know cam has tried to like this to himself, away from that. You see him now wearing the suits and all that other stuff like that. But even with how he conducted himself last year with Melissa Ford and just some of the other antics that he has here and there, he still hasn't shown that true growth.
Speaker 1:And I still don't like how you did, juju. I don't know if there's a poor people, mandarin.
Speaker 2:I'm seeing these folks huts and stuff. Probably not Like they got way better.
Speaker 1:They do homeless better than us in china they do everything better than us in the asian countries.
Speaker 2:They're even poor, better than us because, like they, they having little cookouts and stuff with each other, there's ain't no heroin, no needles on the ground, they just pour together well, yeah, all right. So I do want to preface this by saying that they're both generally just seems like, not good people to each other.
Speaker 1:I disagree. Offset is a terrible person. He seems like the worst person.
Speaker 2:Cardi could be that too we've seen instances with her being a terrible person in regards to. We just keep looking at it from her standpoint because she's quote unquote getting cheated on quote unquote yeah, she's getting cheated on yeah if he this is true, that this man killed himself. From these actions, of this video coming out, that woman who posted it should get involuntary manslaughter no she shouldn't.
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Speaker 5:that's it if I tell y'all I mean why they got cute.
Speaker 5:I seen it, I was right that's still can't believe it. Shit turned me to a demon. Full exacts me. Ain't seen none. Back to back, hits like a rerun Me and T-Roy was scheming. I'm trying to promote T-Roy. If I tell y'all I lay y'all mean it why they got cute I seen it, I was right that's still can't believe it. Shit turned me to a demon. Full exacts me ain't seen on. Back to back hits like a rerun Me and T-Roy was scheming. I'm trying to put my whole team on.
Speaker 5:Let me tell you the truth Most of these niggas they fool and they don't really fuck with you. Let me tell you the truth Went on the drill, my homie, and that nigga ain't even shoot Steady accudations. They ain't even cute. I won't tell a soul I be keepin' me While they shootin' shit and he don't even hoop. I was out the window, he was out the roof. I was on the block, you was out the lid. I was in the Ford, he was in the Tours. I was in the zoo shootin' shit with Zup.
Speaker 5:Talk about bodies. I got a few. Four plus three, three plus two. I'm King Von nigga. Who is you. We Glock is never jammin' ain't me. Then I shoot. I be missing. Granny, probably, papa Zanny, give a bitch a Plan B hook in the juice Used to take a back now. Now I'm through. Ain't shakin' hands, nigga. We ain't cool, we done. Come with bodies, then the coming flu Snatchin' matters, cribbin', put them on the news. Niggas can't walk a mile in my shoes. Niggas can't do the shit. That's cool. Niggas want killin' shit. In high school I was keepin' quiet, I was bein' cool. I don't give a fuck. Nigga, fuck up. Even if it rain, bitch, we comin' through. If I tell y'all, I mean it, why they got cute. I seen it. I was right. That's the deal. Can't believe it? Shit turned me to a demon Police. Ask me. Can't believe it. Shit turned me to a demon Police. Ask me. Ain't seen none Back to back hits like a reed Me and T-Roy with scheme on. I'm tryna put my whole team on.
Speaker 2:All right. You're now listening to talk fnf tv. I'm your host rhetoric. I'm with my lovely and amazing co-host, miss reality. Hi guys, we're back to bring another. So we got to bring up a lot of this man. Drake is back in the court cases. Y'all thought y'all had him Last night was funny, too, the way they're just sequencing it happened. They thought they had him because they had pulled out the petition, but then this morning, on Wednesday, it was announced by TMZ and a bunch of other reporting places that Drake is now doing a defamation, federal defamation lawsuit on umg so now he is officially taking my advice and he's shitting on these niggas exactly the way he's supposed to, and it's got people still upset about this umg, um issued a statement, I believe, about this um.
Speaker 1:They said so. This is their yeah to the definition the defamation federal lawsuit. This is their response. Not only are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would seek to harm the reputation of any artist, let alone drake, is illogical. We have invested massively in his music and our employees around the world have worked tirelessly for many years to help him achieve historic commercial and personal financial success. Throughout his career, drake has intentionally and successfully used UMG to distribute his music and poetry, to engage in conventionally outrageous back-and-forth rap battles to express his feelings about other artists. He now seeks to weaponize the legal process to silence an artist's creative expression and seek damages from UMG or for distributing that artist's music. We have not and do not engage in defamation against any individual. The statement concludes. At the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to protect our people and our reputation, as well as any artists who might directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation target for having done nothing more than write a song.
Speaker 2:So Drake's team. They dropped the court case documents so you can go check them out online now I was able to go through most of them. So essentially what they do is they play out what's happened and what's occurred Since the drop of the song. They note about Three different instances Someone being shot at his house, someone trying to break in and also someone trying to dig a hole To enter into his premises. So essentially what it does Is it lays out a formula which it shows that they, you know, put someone on his name, put a song out that shows that, hey, I've never done any of these things that y'all claiming I've done with this song, and now I've been attacked, I've been, my name's been put through the mud and you've also.
Speaker 2:It's noted also in there that it said that it's UMG. Umg is using this to put him into a situation where they can get favorable terms in the negotiation that's been going on. So I mean, it's just been stuff that we've been discussing throughout the whole time of this beef and the fact is like people keep trying to say like, oh, people talk shit about hip hop people. The whole time there's been at least some hint of truth or something that can go back to in this situation, least some hint of truth or something that can go back to in this situation. Once you drop that particular word, that word has a meaning. It's a criminal meaning. You pushing this out to this narrative to everyone even he even made notes of making calls to violence like you're rallying people behind this action that we all know are we not talking about hip-hop?
Speaker 2:it's not about hip-hop like are, but are we still not talking about hip-hop.
Speaker 1:It's not about hip-hop anymore. Like are, but are we still not talking about hip-hop in the general, like? Just because it's hip-hop, we're talking about we're talking about a rapper, and a rapper like how do we know that these niggas haven't been? These niggas been lying in their music for mad long yes, but when has that?
Speaker 2:when has that? There's a difference between lying saying I'm a thug and I'm a hard and I'm a gangster, and then lying saying what somebody else is and what they're doing.
Speaker 1:There's just a different line. This is really interesting because, like UMG, can distribute whatever they want to distribute, regardless of what's being said on the music. How is it? No, you can't. How is it on them?
Speaker 2:And that's how you know that that's not the truth.
Speaker 1:Because that's the whole like case that whatchamacallit went through right um what's their name?
Speaker 2:um doodoo brown, who made doodoo brown, uncle luke yeah, but he was was saying he wanted the right um to not be censored in regards to what he's talking about, but there's still lines to censorship, like. The funny part about this is people like getting upset with the insinuation that Drake's team is saying like y'all should not have put this song out under y'all label, when that is very true what he's saying in that regard, that y'all shouldn't have put that out knowing that the information was on there. Y'all could have stopped this. Let's just keep another example here. If someone made a song that was pro gaza or hamas or the palestinian cause, you don't think that these jewish record labels would stop that song from coming out and being produced they definitely would, so he's saying, there's just another example of y'all have y'all line.
Speaker 1:That's just for completely other reasons. It's not the. The song wouldn't be illegal or anything like that, would just be fucked up.
Speaker 2:But they have them to suppress it but I'm saying that's that y'all have made choices in regards to what y'all feel is okay to produce. I can have that same thing where it comes to me, like this isn't like somebody outside of his label disrespecting him. Granted, there's still a case for that defamation if there's some malice, but there is actual malice to be shown here that there's a reason why you want to defame, like all the stuff they kept saying in regards to drake that it sounds good but it's different when you have a large some of his pub. You're getting a large just turn around for his money. That's not what's going on now in his future projects that don't benefit you the same way. So there's a reason why you would want to tear him down. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It seems like the the same, whatever. If there were tactics used by umg to boost kendrick, then drake has benefited from these same tactics, which is what they said in their state.
Speaker 1:They literally said in their statement that, like you, have successfully used us to engage in rap battles with other rappers, so it's he's like he's, he's playing victim at this point, when the same like I've said before the same, the same machine that has you've been using successfully did the same thing for somebody else who's who's part of the same machine, and you're upset calling.
Speaker 2:Calling niggas, dorks and clowns in your music is not the same as calling someone a crime against children. Like it's just not the same.
Speaker 1:I feel like y'all keep getting super stuck on this pedophile thing.
Speaker 2:If you read the documents that's literally. His main point is that if y'all would've took those lines out, there would've been nothing for me to sue. It's crazy how they go down. They literally break down each line in the document where he talks about the certified lover boy, certified pedophile actions, talks about the multiple times that he brought his name up in the a minor line. It's like everything is going here to where you want folks to assume after listen to this song, that drake is a violent offender against children.
Speaker 1:My thing is is Kendrick not allowed to lie on a song?
Speaker 2:You can't lie when you have the effects that they had.
Speaker 1:And then if Kendrick does lie on the song, then is UMG liable for distributing the music, regardless of who it is is. If somebody lies on a piece of art and then somebody else distributes that piece of art because it's just their job to distribute things, are they liable for whatever consequences comes to the person being lied about?
Speaker 2:if you're not using clearly defining it as satire, that is not real and that this stuff that you're putting out there is just out of your mind, like something on the figment of your imagination. If you're not clearly defining that, then you could be a liable for you could argue right, like if kendrick had.
Speaker 1:Like if this was against kendrick, it's not. But you could argue that like because it's on a beat, a happy dancey beat in general, like it's. My intention was for it to be satirical, but if everyone took it as serious, then how am I being held legally liable for that?
Speaker 2:they actually noted that in the article I mean not an article, but in the court, because they went back to Euphoria where they noted where he said if you tell lies about me, I'll tell truths about you. So he's already affirming the audience in that moment that the things that I'm going to be saying about you are going to be accurate.
Speaker 1:So again, that's where you could still just say that's an artist doing what an artist does Entertaining, like he was just putting, like this was just him doing. I mean what artists do like. You could argue that too that's why disclaimers are important.
Speaker 2:Without those disclaimers and things that's being said, you, as kendra lamar, you sell yourself as this real artist. So people are going to assume when especially when you say the nigga name again, like if he didn't say drake's name in the song, if he didn't, uh, imply what he was implying, like people try to act like when he said hey, drake, you like him young, talking about he taught a 19 year old, 20 year old. No, you don't go to jail. You don't go to cell block one for dealing with a 19 year old. You go dealing with for someone who's under age.
Speaker 1:And that's just the things that are all being implied in the music and it's just and then, on top of that, I'm thinking about like if this is the specific thing that drake is trying to sue universal over right, like the the claim that he's a pedophile, what is this a civil case like? Would that not eventually have to lead into a criminal case to prove that he's not a pedophile?
Speaker 2:nothing about libel or nothing about defamation is criminal. Okay, because I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's about something that's criminal you're, you're defaming my name over something that I could be thrown in jail over. If he loses, this, would, um, would an overzealous da somewhere not have grounds to start a criminal case against Drake for some reason?
Speaker 2:No, you losing the claim. You saying it is just them saying hey. Whatever particular reason this falls under the line of free speech would be that that doesn't necessarily give credence to him having done the actions that you said. It's just about how the judge or the jury would interpret what was being said drake is behaving like a white woman to me. I don't know I'm not mad at it, bro, he's really behaving like a white woman.
Speaker 2:You can't get to you. Don't get to treat me like that. Like I completely understand, I've been one of the most successful artists for this label. I'm the one.
Speaker 1:I'm in a very high place of privilege. You don't get to talk to me like yeah like a white woman. I don't care bro you.
Speaker 2:The thing is about is this is you would feel the exact same way if you was a top producer, whatever field you were doing, and somebody beneath you statistically was talking shit about you. You would not feel cool about that if they were publicly I probably wouldn't sue anybody, but I'd be salty yeah so that's what all he's saying here, and it's I mean no, but that's not all he's saying, he's suing you would sue the lady if she said that you were stealing product or something that got you fired but nobody like but that's what happens here.
Speaker 1:You're telling him not still drake is? Is he like his, his standing?
Speaker 2:I can still be drake at 100, but if what you said make me at 97, I lost because of your lies. So that's what he's saying. Even if niggas like they talked about the nfl deal, people were bringing up the fact that he got that nfl deal or whatever, if we argued that and we were doing it at two million dollars and now you offering me 500k or you offer me a million dollars, I've lost money from our negotiations because of whatever is out around my name and then I wonder if he's gonna have to prove that too I'm pretty sure that those documents because, like I said, there was a note there that he said that they were doing this to put drake in a situation where umg would be able to get favorable outcome in their negotiations.
Speaker 1:So that part of it is believable like a corporation trying to fuck the artist so that they don't have to pay the artist what they're worth. That is wildly believable. That tracks with how record companies have behaved for the entire time they've existed.
Speaker 2:They've been been an artist over and telling them to take it, so yeah and I think that's largely what he's just saying in regards to the impact that they've had on his career. It's like y'all have tainted my name, Even if it's a little bit. That needs to be addressed because we live in cultural currency. That's, our biggest financial gain is the cultural currency we have with people.
Speaker 2:And if you attack that by calling me a criminal when I'm not doing such crimes. I got to stand and defend myself. I feel like everybody's trying to say like he's like doing the whole Karen white Bro. I got to defend myself because, at the end of the day, when, when this 20 years from now, 30 years from now or shit when Drake's gone, people are going to go back and look at this and be like did he defend himself? Did he to let this happen? Was he doing this? And then you got all the people like, yo, what's some little notes you be reading?
Speaker 1:the blind items yeah, you got them blind items going out there.
Speaker 2:That's gonna be able to tell your story when I'm gone, so you gotta put stuff on on wax.
Speaker 1:And then the crazy thing about blind items it usually be like people like, like people around who just be like seeing shit. I'm sure a lot of them are made up too, but it'd be like pas and or entertainment lawyers and yeah, I just said that. That's what I'm saying just I mean what?
Speaker 2:I mean when I'm saying that is just like the fact that even those people could be pas, they could still just be lying. So they could have somewhere close, but they don't get paid for that like the if I had a bad experience with you, even if you didn't do nothing illegal or wrong to me, having folks think something negative about you can just be enough for some people. So all right, uh, speaking of people thinking negative of each other man, cameron and jim jones is bad man.
Speaker 1:I don't like that what's been going on with this? Because I don't pay attention when old men bicker apparently 50 cent was on is what it is.
Speaker 2:Show with cam and mace there was discussions regarding what was going on back in the day. There were some things that were said about jim jones that jim jones didn't like. So when he went on the respectfully podcast with uh justin laboy, he said that cam and it was on his dick or whatever that rub cam the wrong way. So then cam went on his show when he got back and basically he annihilated jim like he said he's not even from harlem.
Speaker 2:He said y'all wasn't no boy, you really wasn't one, our boy, we was only with you because you had an open crib, all this stuff, like he was just going in on brother whole time about it and that's really messed up but they were using them no, like uh, telling him that now like, oh, we never really fucked with you after they were mans for mad long.
Speaker 1:And then they fell out and then, from what I know, like jim jones most of the time was like, yeah, we had our, our stuff, but like I still got love for the man, like that was my boy, like we was actually like mans for real. And then I was really surprised when I saw how much vitriol cam had for jim, but I didn't know what they had said.
Speaker 1:They've been beefing like that for a while, though, like it's not on and off, it's very much a love-hate relationship, like they be beefing and then they're neutral and then they're beefing in the neutral.
Speaker 2:If they're not getting money together, they're usually beefing with each other. That's kind of the general synopsis of their relationship. If they're not getting bread in the immediate future with each other, they're hating on each other. But I just think to me it's like I think about, I hate when I think about looking at Cam and the dip set, just all them guys in their totality. It's like they are stuck in their heyday. They kind of like the dudes a little bit. That's stuck in high school.
Speaker 6:And I know.
Speaker 2:Cam has tried to like distance himself away from that. You see him now wearing the suits and all that other stuff like that. But even with how he conducted himself last year with Melissa Ford and just some of the other antics that he has here and there, he still hasn't shown that true growth like just and I still don't like how you did, juju and just because you put it on suits don't mean you growth. Like I think I hate black people when we do that. We're like niggas start wearing suits and shit and we start saying niggas, been grown and mature. Like that don't correlate. Just because you got a nice suit on don't mean you've matured. These guys kind of have been the poster child from like stunted development. Like, if you want to be honest, they got really popular, really fly early on in their life. You can almost make an argument that they're like child actors in a way that's just harlem niggas baby.
Speaker 2:I'm just telling you what it looks like from the outside looking in. No, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:So all the harlem niggas act like child, child stars the, the harlem niggas that stay in harlem and be posted up still yes, they're still wearing avx jackets and shit on the corner like but I know they be fly. I'll give them that, but that's the only thing I'm gonna give y'all. But other than that, yeah, I feel like that's just how they be like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:They're like holding on to their heyday stunning growth is like crazy as a personality trait like that's insane. Like I'm just going, that's just my personality is having stunning development. It's insane don't?
Speaker 1:you know a lot of people like that though?
Speaker 2:I don't, wouldn't say that that's their personality. Is that this is a byproduct of their personalities, that their development's been stunted? But they seem to find like pride in that stunted development, like I just seen a picture of jewel santana with a hoodie on and he had the bandana wrapped around the hoodie, like I'm just that's. That's jewels, but I'm like bro you almost 50, though, like at some point it's, it's all right to just change the look.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I saw a picture of future. He 40 some years old. He got four locks.
Speaker 2:They're wicks. The wicks is different, though, wicks. Look, at least it's done, it's neat.
Speaker 1:No, like my man Jim.
Speaker 2:My man, jim, still looks like he gets his hair freshly braided and then just with his hands. No, that's exactly what it looks like, jim jones's braids have been a mystery to me my entire, my entire life. He was like the first nigga that brushed a braids backwards, no forward.
Speaker 1:He against the grain like oh yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, he went against the grain so that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like again I'm. They were cool. They've had moments. They were the epitome of the fly nigga. When I was in high school, like everybody was like oh, I want to be dipshit. But even then them niggas was like 30 years old and we was 18 looking up to him yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like oh, that's what I said in the beginning like old niggas is bickering right now. Why are y'all going back and forth on the internet like bad bitches? That's crazy.
Speaker 2:I just think that there's nobody that's put them in a position or forced them to really have to change their ways, like y'all better sit down and talk it out like grown men. You got to think about it if me is this if me acting the same way I was acting when I was my early 20s is getting me money now, there's no incentive for me to look or do things differently, and I think that's exactly how I feel about future.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry that he keeps catching strains, but I mean, I mean there's an argument to be made that future is the dip set version of an atlanta yeah, in regards to that.
Speaker 2:I just think that scheming on bitches is never something that's going to get old like that's to me, just seems like to me. That's not what they doing. They trying to be like out in the party and flash and you niggas got to respect my flavor and all that kind of shit no, they definitely, they definitely be trying to sun niggas. Yeah, future not doing that future, just like I'm just on the hose which I I don't like.
Speaker 1:Never too old for that, I don't like when, when, when, the big homies try to sun the little homie, and it's not even like but that's what they're necessary for real.
Speaker 2:That's the mo a bully. You're a grown man who's a bully that has been their archetype has been bullies. That's literally been their archetype the entire time they've been in the music industry I've been called a bully more than once like I think one of the things that is going to go back it is.
Speaker 2:It's shown itself now that if we relook the bill o'reilly interview with cameron and dame dash looks almost like bill o'reilly was a prophet. If you go back and listen to that now, where he talks about where hip-hop was going to be going to and where it's at right now, he's almost like a one for one exactly what he said and they look so bad. Like in hindsight now they look so bad and I know in the moment it looked funny and it was cool and they clowning a white nigga in the suit and all that. Now when you look at that, they look so ignorant and they were just pushing the culture to a place where it is now, where it's easily manipulated, super vulnerable and it's pushing out nothing but garbage.
Speaker 1:You might be right, but I don't like that. You just said a white man was right.
Speaker 2:Hey, I mean, it wasn't about him.
Speaker 1:I just don't like the whole general sense of the whole set. I'm not saying that he was right'm saying.
Speaker 2:If what he was describing is what's more of a reality now than it was then, and a large part about it is because men like that were in charge of hip-hop and were allowed to continue to push bullshit hip-hop.
Speaker 1:You think dipset was ever maybe in new york specifically, but nowhere else jim jones.
Speaker 2:You can almost say jim jones was directly responsible for six, nine the people who shoddy was under jim like oh, I don't, I don't know nothing about six, nine. I'm telling you shoddy shoddy was under jim like that was one of jim's little soldiers. So that's why he was in the videotape saying we gotta violate shoddy like I feel like six, nine was conceived.
Speaker 1:Because you remember that one episode of atl Atlanta where he was basically like get a little white boy and just give him all the sauce, and then it it blows up faster for them and then you just sit back and collect the money. That's that's how 6ix9ine happened. There was a team. There was a team of black men or women, probably men, though behind him, just giving him all the sauce and the juice and then they was bleeding him dry.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what was happening was that's exactly. Yeah, that's who shoddy was. Yeah, that's what. Uh, that's what kind of the point is.
Speaker 1:They were just bleeding him dry, and then a lot of that like under jim's direction, though they were saying that's a lot.
Speaker 2:That's why jim jones name came up in the court cases, because he was, in a shape, way or form, shaping what shotting them was doing they went to him for guys it's not doing.
Speaker 1:Now is he in jail again.
Speaker 2:He was in jail with diddy. That's what uh six, that's what uh dj academics said. He got to talk to diddy through six, nine speaking of um dj academics.
Speaker 1:While we're, are we still on drake, kind of right, I mean?
Speaker 2:I was talking about the cam and jim jones, oh yeah cam and jim jones.
Speaker 1:But did you see um act drop like was it texts that? And he tried to allege that lebron james is cheating on Savannah and he was like, oh, you'd be going on two men, two mans with Drake and he'd be facilitating the girls for you and it'd be mostly white women, because you love white women and that's been a rumor for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean ACK has been going in on LeBron. You've seen too, with Charlamagne trying to, like you know, quell his, uh, you know his, his vigor right now in regards to going to the bar. I think to me, if he has information, and I'm not mad at him saying if he, got. You see the texts I didn't see what through all the text messages.
Speaker 1:So there were, there were texts, apparently, and then drake said that they were not fake I mean not real.
Speaker 2:We talked about, okay, okay, we talked about that last week yeah uh, chris blake griffin, that was the dude who's stefan diggs. Remember we talked?
Speaker 1:about drake.
Speaker 2:Said that they weren't real, but turns out they're fully well the dude is claiming that they're real and but people have shown where you can go into the app and make it so that it looks like a screenshot, like you screen record if you're going into somebody okay.
Speaker 1:So there's places to god damn, there's still there's still a degree that it might be.
Speaker 2:This may be, you know, right or wrong, so nobody knows yet if these are been fully authenticated, but it does look more real than it did when we were talking about it last week but, this is crazy with the LeBron shit because act, like I said, act has people who are willing to talk.
Speaker 2:It's going to get crazy for LeBon because people try to act like, oh, this is just, you know, somebody making claims. If this shit gets real, he's staking a lot of his brain on the fact that I'm a family man. I'm honoring my family so that shit can get real for bruh that's his whole thing and it doesn't surprise me like I don't.
Speaker 1:I didn't think that lebron was being an upstanding faithful man to Savannah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, there's tons of rumors you can go down the line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but as long as like nothing has been substantiated. Well, other than the like yes, jules, thing, kind of right Like that's been.
Speaker 2:That's not been. Nothing has been confirmed, okay.
Speaker 1:Even she's tried to act like you know, has denied you know anything.
Speaker 2:Regardless, I just feel like lebron has enough money to, even if people are willing to talk, make them people not talk. Yeah, I mean, I would see that as well, where lebron probably has put things in an arranged way that, hey, if you say something, the court cases are going to come out and come flying, but in the same token, once that's out there, you can't put that genie in the bottle no, you can't.
Speaker 1:But if I have information about lebron cheating, I'm gonna let all parties know and I'm gonna be like hi, it's bitter. Either I speak or I shut up. Who's gonna? Who's gonna give me the most money to do whichever one that they want me to do?
Speaker 2:no, I think we can't.
Speaker 1:We can't have that for lebron, because I don't want that for lebron I think he represents us a specific like archetype, and we we love that. He's an upstanding black man with a black wife who has a black family, and they're successful with no drama. We love that. We want them to thrive and keep being that, but it's not necessarily realistic. This is a rich ass man who's been with this lady since high school. You think he ain't not. He hasn't dipped in anything else the whole time like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:If you ask drew sador, she said that she got lebron why are you the side bitch everywhere? She was the side bitch on the show on the game like you're always like drew.
Speaker 1:I want you to maybe love yourself a little bit more. I don't know what's going on, but every time I hear your name, you're the side bitch. You're like a professional side bitch on and off camera. That's crazy. You've been, you were probably typecasted as a side bitch because that's genuinely who you are in real life.
Speaker 2:That's kind of crazy if there's one man, though, that should be allowed to have other women on the side, it should be lebron yeah but I don't want anybody but savannah to know about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, they've done a good job, like maybe not even Savannah, but at this point, there's probably enough money.
Speaker 2:Savannah no, Savannah didn't walk in on some shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, like she has a beautiful family and enough money.
Speaker 2:She didn't walk in, and then he let her start speaking in 2024.
Speaker 1:So like this is the most freedom she's ever had.
Speaker 2:That was the concession he had to make because it was getting excessive.
Speaker 2:She said if you want to continuously fuck with these, white women, so much so that it's a rumor that goes around consistently. I'm gonna speak, I think. I think the thing about it is, though, it has to be that if, if it is him going around and you know fooling around and stuff like that, for you to be that like clean cut in regards to that, where it's like there's nobody talking, because the thing is what everybody wants it to be tiger woods that's what it has to be, where the level that has to be met for it to make it a real story.
Speaker 2:67 women come out it has to be like tiger woods, where it's like but you telling every girl that you love her, you you saying every wild boy shit to get in the fucks, which is crazy, because it's like, why are you tiger woods and you telling you gotta tell a bitch you love her?
Speaker 1:like that shouldn't have to be the rules I feel like that's what happened when a corny dude gets into the position where he can get a access to a bunch of women that he wouldn't have access to if he had not been this talented and rich you crashing out you telling every like you, you acting like the corny dude still to me you just have money now.
Speaker 2:To me, I think that's the only reason it probably hasn't come out yet, because it's just not those drastic of a number like because tiger already happened and lebron is not stupid.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's it's, it's clean, tight ndas for everybody but to be fair to the reason why a lot of that shit happened with tiger, because once his wife found one, everybody in the woodwork started coming out because, he was like, but they didn't have ndas. He was a monog.
Speaker 1:They didn't no, but I feel like lebron ndas for everybody and he's not in love. Tiger was in love tiger.
Speaker 2:Tiger loved them white women, like every one of them. He loved one of the women for something special about them, like he was giving it up and then he has a mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my only thing.
Speaker 2:I don't know, he just was in his mind and this was some people was I was watching like a documentary was talking about this. In his mind he just thought of it as his birthright yeah, but it really messed you up.
Speaker 2:He had to pay that lady a lot of money, and all of the other women too yeah, I mean he just didn't feel like at the time when it was going on that he was doing something he he like I said he thought it was something that was he was deserving of. I'm one of the best golfers, one of the most popular people in the world. Why shouldn't I have multiple women that I care about deeply?
Speaker 1:If you had let that lady in on it because she was willing to let the first couple slide Like I watched something about this, but when, like number four, five, six came out, that's when she was like oh, nigga, that's because he was lying about it being more than two, though, so it wasn't like. He was like baby, this is the only one, baby, these are the only three, baby, this is only five. Like just yeah, now I'm gonna bleed you dry and leave you for dead I mean it's hard to be.
Speaker 2:I can understand. I again I can understand the mental, just being honest about that.
Speaker 1:So I mean because she, she decided to take it over and over again, even though she was but being lied to and then it just kept getting worse and she was like dude, like I am ready there's an argument that you just got to just take it, though, like I'm that 17 chances I'm that nigga, I'm tiger woods.
Speaker 2:You just kind of just got to take it like where else you gonna get this tiger woods kind of effect?
Speaker 1:and nowhere else.
Speaker 2:But I'm gonna just take it from you and I think sometimes we get into situations where we be feeling like are these celebrities, feel like I'm that nigga? And it's like, yeah, you are that nigga, but compare lead to the person you with. Are you cuz offset we back to talking about you again. I get what you're trying to do and I get what you're trying, how you're trying to make her feel, but it's going to get turned on you when she goes on spaces and gets calm like this.
Speaker 3:Twenty five. But this morning, this morning, motherfuckers decided to disturb my peace. So since people want to disturb my peace, I'm going to disturb everybody's fucking peace myself. I'm gonna disturb everybody's fucking peace myself. I cannot wait to put my album out because I'm gonna violate. I really didn't want to put my business out, but I'm gonna put my business out in this fucking album.
Speaker 1:I just you know all your business you know what me?
Speaker 3:I told myself you got no more business left for the album right that I'm going to let the lord handle people and I'm not going to handle people because I could really ruin people's whole entire fucking life. When are you going to start doing that? Today, tomorrow, every single day, my mouth could literally ruin people's lives. But you know what? I just know that God will handle them. They're just not handling these people.
Speaker 1:This is not even the interesting part. Where's the interesting part by?
Speaker 3:the way, do you guys know that my kids didn't receive no christmas gifts from somebody in particular? Motherfuckers want to make a scene on social media like I was keeping my kids away from them, like to make movies on social media, but purposely fly to New York to buy their kids gifts. And guess how many gifts did they buy my kids? Zero, zero. And then motherfuckers want to do shit. You know what I noticed Every single time that a motherfucker did something publicly to embarrass me, I noticed that they did that on purpose, because a motherfucker thought that he was going to ruin, ruin my year and have me fucked up, like they had me fucked up last year, up last year. But I'm so strong, I'm so fucking strong and it doesn't affect me anymore that even after you try to ruin me by being spiteful towards me and my kids, I still got my ass up and went to fucking work all right.
Speaker 2:So I do want to preface this by saying that they're both generally just seems like, not good people to each other.
Speaker 1:I disagree. Offset is a terrible person. He seems like the worst person cardi could be that too.
Speaker 2:We've seen instances with her being a terrible person in regards to. We just keep looking at it from her standpoint, because she's quote-unquote getting cheated on quote-unquote yeah she's getting cheated on yeah she also allegedly slept with a nigga with the baby in her stomach she cheated back once that's still crazy. So again, nobody's perfect in this situation.
Speaker 2:What I'm just doing here is I'm just just I'm just understanding what could be going through someone's mind, like someone like offset in a situation like this, like I kind of understand the game that he playing there, because he knows one of the things that's going to affect her a lot is going to be the treatment of her child in regard in relation to him. So, again, if I'm trying to play mental games with you and I'm trying to weaken you, children aren't gonna.
Speaker 1:Children shouldn't come into play when you're playing mental games cool.
Speaker 2:A lot of things shouldn't come into play, but it does.
Speaker 1:It's a part of it it does, but whenever and that's just what he's doing whenever you do that, you're very wrong, regardless of whether you're a man or a woman. Children should not come into play when you're playing games with your partner. They're literally innocent bystanders in the situation. They shouldn't feel what y'all are going through if y'all were mature parents.
Speaker 2:But they they didn't feel that the only person who felt that was her. Though that's the thing they have enough to where, if daddy?
Speaker 1:was in the house every christmas for the past couple years, and now we don't even get nothing from him you don't think they know that. No, they don't know that. How old is cardi's oldest? She's like five.
Speaker 2:She still don't know the difference between a christmas without daddy regards. When I'm talking about stuff, not him, his presence, I'm talking about the actual, how much gifts and stuff are around no, I'm sure they still got a bunch of stuff. I'm just saying I feel like oh, because daddy wasn't here, I got less, or it was a lesser experience bro, they felt they felt his presence lacking.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's what I'm saying, okay so that's.
Speaker 2:That's a totally different thing that she didn't say they didn't see him. He said they didn't get her many gifts. So we don't know if they actually saw each other and spent.
Speaker 1:He showed up and didn't bring any gifts, he just came empty handed. Yeah, I don't think she would have complained about that.
Speaker 2:No, what, yes, she would have.
Speaker 1:I could definitely see her complaining about that and then, if that was the case, then, as if I was offset out of posted pictures of me and my kids on Christmas. Like bitch, I was with them.
Speaker 2:Okay, that doesn't mean Like that doesn't stop her from what she said about you not getting gifts.
Speaker 1:If that's the case, yeah, I don't think it would be that big of a deal if he was actually there. But he wasn't there and didn't get them anything.
Speaker 2:But to be fair, like I said, he has other kids. It don't matter if you have other kids.
Speaker 1:You have all these kids and you have gotten all of them Christmas gifts every single Christmas, and now you're using this specifically to spite me, which is immature.
Speaker 2:You're conflating things. I'm talking about his presence doesn't necessarily have to be with her set of kids if he has other kids to be with. So that's what I'm talking about. The gifts thing is again. I just said what it was.
Speaker 1:It was a tool to manipulate that error nobody's saying he doesn't have to be with them. Specifically, I'm sure, though them kids I don't know.
Speaker 2:This is just a tool. These people are both bad people.
Speaker 1:They're going to both use things that whatever they can you're saying they're both bad people, but I'm saying offset is a worse person that's fair.
Speaker 2:I mean you could think that I don't think that. I think they're the same. I think they're two, two sides of the same you think that I think they're the two sides of the same coin that tracks I think they're exactly the two people that deserve each other. I think they think everything that each other is doing to one of them, they kind of both deserve it. I think it's very evident in that Cardi ain't do shit to Offset, though we don't know that. We don't know that, we do know what.
Speaker 2:Because Offset is on the internet telling us their business just as much as Cardi is the reason we know he's cheating is because of her. Of course he wouldn't be. Uh, come out. She don't want to put all the business out. I'm cheating. I got caught cheating again. She's the one confirming people's statements and putting all the business out there. So all this stuff that we know is because of her.
Speaker 1:As soon as he got cheated on, he came and told us just like she did, you've been doing the same thing.
Speaker 2:So what is your argument? Like he didn't come out and say that he was cheating.
Speaker 1:She did. As soon as she cheated, he came out and was like boo-hoo, you cheated with the baby in you. That's crazy too. Like come on now.
Speaker 2:That's like 10 points in how you determine how bad this is.
Speaker 1:I feel like as a partner, he's worse, they're both bad partners.
Speaker 2:I can definitely see they're both bad partners.
Speaker 1:They're both bad, I can definitely see.
Speaker 2:They're both bad partners. They're both bad. But I'm saying he's worse, I would. I guess I I still haven't seen enough to say that he's just 100 worse. She knew what she was getting on. She she's a woman. I see somebody tweet us a while ago. She's a woman who validates herself through sex and he's a sex addict. So you got exactly what you're supposed to get he's definitely a sex addict all right, so let's get into this.
Speaker 1:Lord jamar, um oh I don't know none of these people child so no, I, I just to me.
Speaker 2:I I always enjoy, because I've seen this happen, lord jamar, he's a rapper, uh what song did he make? There's nothing that's really you want to go home brag about, but let me google him so this is funny because I was a fan of this dude. I'm a listener to this guy's channel, professor, uh, dave, and he is this him, yeah and he reacted to a video heavy drugs.
Speaker 2:You got to at least put a legend on that or something. But no, professor dave, he is a scientific communicator and he goes in when guys say flat earth stuff or ridiculous claims that are anti-science. He will react to their content and call them idiots and dumb and break it down why they're wrong. So in a recent one of his older posts he was drinking and he was reacting to lord jamar's on godfrey godfrey's. People end up calling professor dave because they were like hey, I see that you know. You know what you're talking about. We didn't have the tools adequate to respond. Can you come on the show with us? What then commences is probably one of the craziest like murder scenes you'll ever see on the internet, and from what I'm seeing, lord jamar is a ho tap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's wearing all that shit. He's wearing a hat that says brand nubian. There's a stack of books. What I see? There's a stack of books on his shoulder. For, really quickly, from what I see, african holistic health, rap, race and revolution. How to hustle and win. When is in red, bold letters like just corny.
Speaker 2:Lord Jamar is like one of those niggas who think that he's smart but he just say dumb shit the entire time. He's one of those kind of niggas.
Speaker 4:Why you are against what he believes. How about?
Speaker 7:that, yeah, flat Earth is the dumbest hoax in human history. Jamar just watched some videos by Eric Dubé, who just spews a bunch of bullshit, memorized what he says and repeats it and pretends to be intelligent. Oh boy, instead, everything you say is so insanely stupid and can be disproven with middle school level physics, see, really. So yeah, we can go ahead and you can rattle off your-. Let's do it. Do they talk in Do you have?
Speaker 4:a working model of a ball that has water sticking to the outside of it. Can you show me? A tennis ball yes, that's not water sticking to a ball, that's saturation of water on the ball, so I want you to show me where water sticks to the outside of a ball as it spins.
Speaker 7:It doesn't go to the equator of the ball and spin off I heard you show me a working model show me a working model. Okay, the reason that things stick to the earth is because the earth is extremely massive, so it generates a very large gravitational field. When things, when water falls off of a ball whatever ball you're talking about to the earth, it's because of the large gravitational field exerted by the earth. So when you're talking about water sticking to a ball, your desired demonstration of gravity fails, because gravity exists no things fall to the ground.
Speaker 4:There is density and buoyancy, sir. Gravity is not some magical thing that makes things drop to the ground, it depends the medium that it is in. If I drop something in, this water. Depending on how heavy it is, it's going to sink or float First of all, this guy came out real disrespectful, talking about the stupidest shit, because you're a fucking idiot.
Speaker 2:He also said fuck Professor, day before he even started Coming on today, cause you're a full dumbass.
Speaker 7:You know that right, the entire body of scientific knowledge. Let me respond to the insanely stupid thing you said.
Speaker 4:I want you to respond To my.
Speaker 7:We're gonna talk about what pseudoscience is.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, go ahead, dave he's calling this to talk about what pseudoscience is. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, dave. Go ahead, dave, density is not a force.
Speaker 1:He's calling this man's actual science pseudoscience while he's spewing pseudoscience. It's hilarious. You can't argue with people like that.
Speaker 7:It's not a force. It can't make things move. Buoyancy there's a buoyant force, but it has gravity when gravity exists when gravity the secret sauce.
Speaker 4:Here's the problem with your density bullshit.
Speaker 7:You think that things fall down because the air is less dense. The air is less dense above the object too, so why the fuck don't things fall up?
Speaker 2:Just because she had her fucking brain want to explode.
Speaker 4:You fucking asshole. Bubbles go up, you stupid fuck Fucking. Evaporation goes up, you dickhead. Like what the fuck are you talking about? That's because there's wind, because it's lighter than the fucking density it's in, doesn't a?
Speaker 1:bubble fall.
Speaker 4:How can a fucking tadpole defy gravity? You fucking shithead. Bubbles fall too. That's what he fucking fucking yes how does anything swim through, if there's?
Speaker 1:not enough wind, the bubble will fall. But if there's wind, the bubble will blow away, that's a fucking force that's just have you, that's children know that lord jamar does something here.
Speaker 2:When you watch the rest of this article, it's on professor dave's channel to check it out. When you listen, to?
Speaker 1:why is it on professor dave's channel? Well, because godfrey deleted it why did godfrey delete it?
Speaker 2:because of lord jamar. So basically, well, I'm assuming it's because of lord jamar, because if you watch it throughout the whole thing, he later on says he uses his own celebrity to basically say, oh, if you, you know, gonna continue talking to bro, I need you don't have celebrity.
Speaker 1:I mean, by the way to them.
Speaker 2:To a degree he does, um, but no, that's what he was using to try to get you know, professor dave, all see what he does and he said this too where he talked about oh, I'm using common sense. What he does is they take their stupid perspectives on things and they try to apply that to in a general sense, even though they don't understand the words and that they're using to describe it. You're using words to describe scientific words, to describe what you're seeing in reality, but then not having to live with the repercussions of what those words mean in science like he said, buoyancy.
Speaker 2:But then professor dave was like gravity comes into the equation of buoyancy, yeah, and with a lot of the stuff that he's saying, because he even talked about weight later on. He was like what do you think weight is? It's in regards to your mass and the gravitational pull being pulled onto you. So that's where he was just like you're not smart and I think a lot of people need to be told that they're not smart and that they're dumb.
Speaker 1:You need to be able to know that you're. There are certain things that you're probably more well versed in than other people, and then there's a lot probably more than the the other side of there's probably a lot of things that you're not well versed in and that other people can teach you about, and this is one of those situations.
Speaker 2:But even the sense that, with the flatter of like, there are real things that you can see in the world, that will show you the world is round that's why I think that you can't argue with people who are flat earthers, because they're being willfully ignorant. They're being willfully stupid.
Speaker 2:They want to be stupid they don't want to listen to facts I've been to australia, so I've been to the southern, the southern hemisphere of this planet. There is two different skies. Like you'll go up and look up and you'll see different stars in australia, different set of constellations in australia, in the southern hemisphere, that you will not see when you're in the northern hemisphere. Like things are, there's just different things. To show that, and if the earth was flat, if we're all looking, you can go look into some southern hemisphere. If, like south america, india, austria, they all see the same sky. But if they, if this was a flat surface, they would not be seeing the same sky because they would be pointing in different directions. So like there's this 100 evidence they've been taking flat earthers to a south pole to show you the 24 hour sky. Like there's showing where there's the earth is being, is rotating around something, and it's also a round object in and of itself.
Speaker 1:It's just so much that you can just, it's a it's literally a primitive state of mind, because that's what we thought before. We had like telescopes and science, like when you when you actually think about it and equations.
Speaker 2:If you didn't have other tools and mechanics to use, it would make sense that you would think something stupid like the earth is flat Because you keep walking and you don't fall off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or whatever the fuck Walking and falling off is, that would be something you would still have to walk far enough to see, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2:To walk far enough to see, but that's. That's neither here nor there. It's just the simple fact that it's the simple fact that there is tons of evidence to show that this planet has been going on on a round surface or something that's more spherical, and these people are trying like I remember when somebody one time sent me documents and because they were old documents, they tried to assume they had legitimacy- who uh?
Speaker 2:it was just dude that he was actually on the old show. He wasn't one of the co-hosts, but he actually came on the show where he was sending me documents of flat earth stuff. And I'm sitting here like bro.
Speaker 1:People have been stupid for a long time I'm trying to guess who it was just because they're old documents doesn't validate what they're saying.
Speaker 2:Like people have been stupid for a long time about this there have been flat earth associations and stuff like that a long time ago because people were wrong initially, and now that we have done more information, I'm stuck on trying to figure out which one of his friends is a flat earth.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of niggas is it.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of these niggas that be saying this shit, or they'll agree with this shit, or try to give it credence, because it makes them feel you don't, you don't know they make them feel I'm trying to be messy.
Speaker 2:It makes them feel like they know something or they're onto something that has everybody else fooled. They're a lot of this stuff. They don't do nothing. People who believe in this shit a lot of times don't have other shit impressive going on. So if you leave, if a nigga that you know is leading with the flat earth, more often than not that nigga ain't got shit else going on, because the nigga who got shit else going on is gonna leave with something other than the flatter man like this is.
Speaker 2:The most interesting thing about me is that I'm a contrarian to something that is has been proven over and over again for decades it's just, it's ridiculous and it's sad too and like some people will watch that video and be like oh, why are you okay with a white man talking shit about a black man like that? And it's like because he's wrong and he's making other black men look worse and look stupid and you're making other like little of you watch the episode that he was reacting to when Lord Jamar was just allowed to just spew his bullshit with impunity, like those dudes in there look so much more dumb because they were sitting there just letting that shit ride and they felt bad about it too because they couldn't defend themselves with it. But they even go to this one part where like and this is the stupidest shit, I hate what people say this too when they talk about the glow, oh, people are upside down at the bottom and it's like bro, what do y'all think?
Speaker 2:Down is no. But it's stupider because they're saying down and retro to the, to space outside, not until the actual planet, because down is the ground. So if I'm going to the ground, it doesn't matter where I'm at on this sphere. There is no top and bottom of a sphere. Wherever that goes to, there is no down, like south isn't down, like. This is where it's like you just see the stupidity within people nobody, just oh man. It's just. It's like you just see the stupidity within people. Nobody, just oh man. It's infuriating because people really want to believe this shit so bad.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know when the flat earth thing became a thing.
Speaker 2:It was just the Internet stuff man Gaining traction.
Speaker 1:I feel like people. Somebody came out and was like oh, people used to believe this at one point, and then some dumb ass was like oh, that makes sense. And then started trying to rationalize it away.
Speaker 2:And if enough people say the the stupid thing, then other people are going to believe it, and that's what happened with the whole flat earth thing I think grifters are, at the end of the day, are always going to grift and that they're just going to find places that they're going to be able to look up and, you know, make they're going to try to trick people. That's just the real thing about it yeah they can't. There's nothing else they can do. All right, um want to get into this red note oh my god.
Speaker 1:So, as you guys know, the tiktok ban is supposed to take, come um, come into action.
Speaker 1:January 19th yeah, that's sunday, I believe yeah, um, I've been seeing things about a tiktok ban extension that will extend it for the next 260 days. There's a congressman that um put that into into play. I don't know how true that is or if that's going to happen, but TikTok is being banned in a couple of days. I'm devastated. The people of TikTok were. It's a. It's a different type of social media over there.
Speaker 1:So the first couple of videos that I started seeing about Red Note Red Note is the Chinese like, actual Chinese owned version of TikTok. Not version of TikTok, because they're two completely different companies, but it's the. It's the same type of layout, right? The first couple of videos I started seeing about this was like, since the U? S government doesn't want China to get our data, like, since the US government doesn't want China to get our data, wouldn't it be hilarious if we just went on a Chinese app and just gave them all our data willingly? Like an actual like owned by the Chinese communist like in China based company, because TikTok is not based in China. They're not based in China. Tiktok is not based in China. They're not based in China. They're also um owned partially mostly by a like venture capitalist group that is um, mostly Americans, if y'all didn't know that, but, um, and they're based out of Singapore, which, whatever, they're not fully Chinese, um, um, this red note app, though, is fully actually chinese.
Speaker 1:So now the red note is the number one fastest growing app in the android and the the apple store, and everyone has been making jokes. This girl was like I will literally go on red note and make my username, my social security password, my social security number, like these people, like they don't give a damn. There are Chinese people who are making videos like oh, thank you for giving us data, um, access back to your data everyone's. Like, literally, I will mail my data to china's front door.
Speaker 2:I don't give a damn, nobody cares I do have to say this, though my left is we have been, you know, kind of uh, trying to romanticize this a little bit. The thing about red no, I think it's called xh8s or something like that that's another like there's a chinese name for it, but they just call it the red notebook. Well, we got to understand. This is not like us getting into the the, the weeds with the real chinese, you know, oppressed people you know what happened, though, recently.
Speaker 1:Red note um I. Yesterday they announced that they're going to be separating the IP numbers, ip addresses of people in China and outside of China, so that they're not going to really be mixing that much anymore. The people who are using the Red Note in China are going to be their own bubble and the people that are using it outside of China are going to be a different bubble outside of china are gonna be a different bubble, so I mean that that's gonna be one reason too.
Speaker 2:But also too like this is the instagram rich kid version app over there like this ain't the workers, these ain't the niggas in the slums? If you want to go to that, that is going to be kawushau. That's going to be the place where you want to see that man. They got them. Niggas living in them huts. Niggas living in the fucking ceramic not ceramic, but the uh, concrete circles niggas out there really getting that's the ones we need to find that doesn't appeal to me at all.
Speaker 1:I don't want, I don't like seeing poor people live, yes, you do poorly you follow.
Speaker 2:That's one of your favorite things the transgender homeless person that you used to watch no, there was one girl, yeah, that was your people.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that one. Yes, yes, yes. I used to your people. Oh yeah, that one.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes I used to donate to her, so don't try to act like that.
Speaker 1:But that's because she black Okay.
Speaker 2:They Asian and poor. Yeah, I don't Shout out to the poor Asians, I rock with that. Yo Like. These are the people we need to be getting on their side. We need to be learning the lingo of there are people fully learning mandarin?
Speaker 5:I've seen.
Speaker 1:I've seen niggas get on tiktok like shea, shea like we need, but see, we need to learn chinese sentences.
Speaker 2:We need to learn that urban dialect. I mean the rural dialect, not the urban one, not the city dialect yeah, there's, there's like a formal mandarin and a casual mandarin because I'm seeing, I don't know if there's a poor people mandarin I'm seeing these folks huts
Speaker 2:and stuff like they got way better. They do homeless better than us in china they do everything better than us. In the asian countries they're even poor better than us because, like they, they having little cookouts and stuff with each other, there's ain't no heroin, no needles on the ground, they just pour together well, yeah, but their, their their homelessness?
Speaker 1:um, it's not mostly because of drugs, it's mostly because of, like, disenfranchisement.
Speaker 2:And then a lot of people just choose to be homeless because the the pressures of living but that's if they leave that type of society and go in there and they go into the rural area. You'll have people doing that. But I mean, like just to see that the way they living out there and comparative to what you see like the homeless people living, it's very similar but it's just more unity, like you can see that they helping each other.
Speaker 1:I was just about to say and their society is different. The way that they think in their community is different. China's cleaner because they they think about each other and they don't want to litter for other people, because they don't want their country to be dirty.
Speaker 2:Like even they don't even really look dirty, they just look like they haven't bathed in a while, like it's not like you know what I'm saying. It's not like they look like they got marks and stuff on their face, like they're not cleaning themselves up. But, it's just like you can just tell that maybe he ain't got a hot bath in a while.
Speaker 1:maybe he ain't there's, there's probably got a hot bath in a while. There's probably a better sense of community there because they they take care of each other a little bit better than we do. There's more of a sense of individualism in the united states and then in asian countries specifically, like there's more of a sense of togetherness.
Speaker 2:So I feel like that's probably and they see them all like too.
Speaker 1:They tense, look flyer you know, like those giant, like concrete tubes that you'll see probably it's usually they do work on the side of the road and stuff like yeah like they might be doing something underwater or something like that. Like that's what their tubes are in, like they're giant metal cement tubes cement tubes like they're. They're protected from the elements the tubes are not moving.
Speaker 2:But like that can't be a comfortable, like some of them niggas was was sleeping in that shit like vertical on that, vertical, horizontal with it. That can't be a comfortable. Like some of them niggas was was sleeping in that shit like vertical on that, vertical, horizontal with it. That can't be.
Speaker 1:Like they wasn't parallel with the tube no, I feel like maybe if you have some type, of padding padding under the the tent, then you might be okay I'm just saying the back, the back.
Speaker 2:If you sleeping in the tube like that, your back is gonna be killing you you know what about the red note is hilarious, though there was this.
Speaker 1:You remember I told you yesterday that the the ceo came out and made a video welcoming all of the americans to the app. That was not the ceo at all. He didn't even say he was the ceo in the video. There's multiple videos of him reacting to like the millions of views. The shit got on tiktok and he was like why, why do they? I didn't even say he was like when in the video did I say I was the ceo? He knows how to speak english and everything his. I think his girlfriend was showing him the video. It was the same day. He was in the same hat and sweater and he was like why are they doing this?
Speaker 1:he's like oh my god oh my god, there's like a man and woman pair that are the ceo of the the red note.
Speaker 2:But it's really funny, hey, man china this how we joke, so you guys gonna have to get used to that the chinese are making jokes about luigi mangione.
Speaker 1:They've been making um, there was one guy in china who was learning about the american health care system and he was shocked and he was like I no wonder why you guys are backing this guy up no, it was another dude who was on there who he was like going on like a rant and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2:He was like team square never happened.
Speaker 1:There was this one other guy who was like I, I welcome the Americans, you can be gay, just stop talking about it. And then everyone was in the comments like I didn't expect the homophobia Everywhere outside of America. You should expect homophobia. This is the place that it's the most okay in, I feel like Everywhere else.
Speaker 2:Most people you got to be gay and silent you're gonna get hate crimed.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. Like as americans, gayness is mad normal to us gays guns.
Speaker 2:I wish there was another g that could make that cool gays guns yeah, like very american we got germans too here gays, guns and germans no gays, guns and germs america all right, um. So I mean y'all check it out, man, don't. Don't go to red note, though. Go to the, go to the kawabishabi or whatever that's y'all, I'm gonna read.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know what to tell you be liking to be with the fucking fake bougie people.
Speaker 2:Man, get it out the mud with the real ones, dog no get it out, the fucking mud, poor people, don't say that that's disgusting. Don't scare me, alright, dog. That's fucked up.
Speaker 1:You know what happened today though I was at the gas station, there was this guy outside the gas station. He was like he had a little note or card that was like cash for money. I was like I woke up cash for money? No he was like oh, no, cash for for food. He was like give me cash for food and I was like I don't got. I don't got no cash, but you can follow me in here and pick out whatever you want. That was swell of you that was nice yeah and this nigga picked out chips and snickers.
Speaker 1:The whole then in a can of soda, not a bottle of water or nothing. I was like you don't want to get a pack of ramen, a bottle of water, like you can with the ramen nigga you can. You can do whatever the fuck like. You don't want to get some water. The fuck you supposed to do with some ramen, though maybe get like a pack of vitamin c make some broth like what the fuck get a pack of vitamin c. It's getting cold, you know like get. They had gloves back there.
Speaker 2:I was really gonna let this nigga rock and like ball out see, that's the thing about niggas like you, like when niggas be doing shit for for the homeless and shit, they be thinking that they should be able to coach them niggas through their oppression, my nigga you I didn't coach nothing. No, you're over here criticizing the nigga off of his fucking you said coach though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you over here criticizing. Or because I criticized after the fact. Well, you can coach though. Yeah, you over here criticizing.
Speaker 2:Or because I criticized after the fact well, you can coach and criticize those two things that I did ask him.
Speaker 1:I was like you, you didn't look at that I was like you didn't want any I was like no, because before I was like they don't have any hot food in here because it was the, the gas station where was it?
Speaker 2:and he was, yeah, it was in buckhead. I'm saying which gas station? It's a qt. You got hot food?
Speaker 1:no, it wasn't a qt okay, it was like a bp. I think you might got some hot food in there, not that one. Okay, buckhead doesn't have a lot of gas stations. I don't know if, like you, drive around buckhead but there's not. There's like three gas stations in buckhead. It's very weird um, they want you to take the ubers yeah, but I looked around and I was like, oh you know hot food in here, huh. So then I'll just let him rock so he would have got some hot.
Speaker 2:It was hot food.
Speaker 1:You had made him get a certain amount of hot food no, I would have let him get whatever amount of stuff he wanted to get. If he spent a hundred dollars in that gas station, then I would have paid for a hundred dollars worth of whatever the fuck he picked out.
Speaker 2:I got it.
Speaker 1:But he picked out a bunch of snacks and then I pointed out the ramen and then I was like hold on. And I looked around I was like ain't no hot food in here.
Speaker 2:This is all you can get. I got a funny story so it was one time I was with my sister and I think it was with her boyfriend or somebody like that. We was in the car together and it was a homeless white dude came up to the car and you know was asking for some money and I guess the dude my sister's boyfriend was trying to give him five dollars but accidentally gave him a 20. And so he gave him. The dude grabbed a 20. He looked at it, looked at her. Her boyfriend was like God bless, and that nigga took off to the liquor store. Like we could see. The liquor store was in like view, so we seen this nigga running.
Speaker 1:Like I ain't never seen a nigga move. Oh my God, that shit was so funny. I don't do that, though.
Speaker 2:I don't give homeless people cash, like if I just don't give homeless women money. You was born with a moneymaker honey. If you're not going to use it properly, that's not my job I'm only give money to men that are homeless that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:But I don't give homeless, I don't give um homeless white people money I.
Speaker 2:I used to be like you were born in privilege.
Speaker 1:I could see that you used it incorrectly and now you're homeless. See, the thing is your fault. That's on you I see.
Speaker 2:But I don't understand that like sometimes they be like vets and shit like that. So that's why I be kind of have a little more empathy. A lot of times they be like vets I didn't know I don't get, they va, but no, I don't get like.
Speaker 2:I remember one time when I was in college I was like walking out to walmart and it was like this lady and she had like two or three kids sitting by the door. It was just her and two or three kids sitting by the door and I'm just like nah shawty, you don't love them kids enough to sell that little money maker, you don't?
Speaker 1:you don't really need this dollar like that now, if they in front of a store, then I'm gonna be like just walking with me, let me just pay for everything like I've done that, like if you're in front of a store and you're holding a sign that says you need food and I can walk you in there with me and buy you food if your jaw work, you can make a dollar.
Speaker 2:So my thing is I'm not the same goes for men, though I'm not going for that. No, not necessarily because see you doing something that we're.
Speaker 1:We're in atlanta, though, where we are. As a man.
Speaker 2:If your jaw works, you can make a dollar, so your logic is fucked, the reason why I wouldn't say that is because, as a woman, you could still be engaging in the sexual act that you would normally engage in if it was a consensual, normal act, like you would still be engaging with men. For a man to say you have to now do something gay to get money is a different request, because now you're saying I'm giving my body but I also have to give off my sensibilities but no, your point before was you were born with the tools to help you make the money.
Speaker 1:So was the man. He got a mouth and a booty hole no, that ain't the same tool.
Speaker 2:That pussy, a different tool. Yeah, I'll see a different tool you see how you see, I'm I'm willing to be open with my, with my differences y'all see my logic and then y'all see how this is a different tool. Just being honest with you like that.
Speaker 1:You can't, you can't make it work.
Speaker 2:You can go and find multiple work.
Speaker 2:You can go multiple places in nature. I was watching, uh, the history channel I'm not his channel, but the national geographic, and they were talking about this female lion who slept with two different lions, and there was one. One lion was the father of the other lion and she slept with both of them because they reigned over like the east and the west of the plane they were on and basically because her kids smelled like both of them, she was able to go from both sides with no problem and so period that's so.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Y'all, y'all. Tool is a different tool than the dick tool, that's all you're not about to compare us to fucking actual wild animals in the wild that's so stupid, that's such a man thing to do I just did
Speaker 2:that's invalid all right, let's get into this other story that I saw on the internet today, so it was essentially sam, I am. Our sons are aware that if they have babies out of wedlock, they'll lose their inheritance for them and we'll have to start from scratch. We were clear about this prior to having children. Most boys are comfortable with doing this and it's because they have zero standards, expectations and inheritance. You have to incentivize good behavior and decisions, so this kind of got people up in a you know it made people upset. People were upset, yeah, which I don't have parents that set boundaries and guidelines for them.
Speaker 2:This is what parents do.
Speaker 1:This is not a boundary and a guideline to my parents had a bunch of fucking like a laundry list of rules for me there's a that's, but it's a difference between what this is, because you can have rules and if you don't break those rules?
Speaker 2:if you break those rules, then we try to figure out a way to learn from that and go from there this right.
Speaker 1:Here it was.
Speaker 2:If you break these rules, you get sent back to haiti okay, just I mean, still you're learning from it, going back and you're learning just just harsh consequences but you're learning, you know and it was because of the consequence being so dire, it made me want to fall in line and follow. I could also argue that that's not a good result either too.
Speaker 1:One thing is this you can always argue that authoritative and a little bit more lax gets you two different results well, I would say with this right here.
Speaker 2:One of the things I would argue about this is you're not necessarily doing what you think you're doing and helping them because you can set up a standard, but at the end of the day, it's not on them. If a baby is born, it's on a woman. If the baby is born, it's on a woman because, like I said, they could be protected, they could be doing all the steps and something can still happen. So to say that to me is you're putting them in a position where you want to destroy them if they don't conduct a life in a way that you want to.
Speaker 1:It's a tiny bit harder for them to control because they have boys, but it's still not like a crazy boundary.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that it's a crazy boundary, I'm just saying that the point that I think people are trying to.
Speaker 1:What are people saying about this? Like, why are people in arms about this? Are they saying it's?
Speaker 2:controlling? Yeah Well, are they saying it's controlling? Yeah one well, they're trying to manipulative, it's controlling. One of the things, too, that you can kind of say about it is like it's creating an unreal expectation for them because, granted, yeah, they cannot have kids till they marry, but again, it's not within their control of a woman if a woman gets pregnant after their actions use condoms, don't be coming and everything but you can still use a condom and someone get pregnant like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the like, the likelihood is much, much, much, much, much, much, much lower the point that I'm saying is that when you put that in their guidelines one, you're also destroying your own legacy, because the fact that he has a kid isn't going to necessarily negatively affect his future, but the fact that he doesn't have your backing is going to negatively affect it like this is like what reminds me of when people get upset, where, like, you'll see stories where girls will go on there and be like, oh, my sister had a baby and her mom does everything for her and the baby, but, like with me and my six-figure job, she doesn't help me with anything.
Speaker 2:It's like, well, duh, bitch, you figured it out, you got a good outcome, your sister got a kid yeah your, that kid needs you, that next generation needs you and you're going to destroy your generation because you have this like prudy idea of how your kid is supposed to have a life and instead of understanding, hey, life happens, let's make sure we continue to grow our family I think you're getting a little bit ahead of yourself.
Speaker 1:Because it's an inheritance, right? So it's like if they pass, if both of them are gone, if both of them are gone when the son has a child out of wedlock, then they wouldn't have access to that inheritance. But who's to say that if, like, a son has a child while they're still there, they're not, their grandparent instincts aren't gonna kick in and they're not gonna do everything for that child regardless yeah, but even then you're still pump faking.
Speaker 2:So now you're just trying to make yourself sound like you.
Speaker 1:They're just trying to scare their kids, but that's something parents do like.
Speaker 2:That's very much a parent yeah, but when you put it on the internet, you put up for a different level of scrutiny yeah, that that I will criticize.
Speaker 1:Putting your parenting on the internet for other people to judge is weird as hell, because that leaves your children up for judgment and scrutiny too, which I feel like is your job as a parent to shield your child from that and them having this, this um set of rules for their children. I don't maybe I'm I've never been a prude in my life, but I've generally always been against having children out of wedlock also, people are talking about this as this some type of level of prevention.
Speaker 2:It's not really a level of prevention. More than it is. You're going to like deter them in a way, that kind of like when we was talking about a little baby and how he was has a creative block because he doesn't want to get caught up in the rico type shit. Like you're creating more of that than you do anything else. Like you're gonna create them to have bad responses if they do mess up. So could you imagine this kid?
Speaker 2:he does mess up and now he think about losing his heritage and what he'll do to this girl if she don't get rid of the kid no, 100% you're putting your kid in a position where now he's thinking about what I really can lose if something like this happens, and now it's something that's not even in his control do you not think it's?
Speaker 1:do you think it's hard not to get somebody pregnant? Because my my thing, for since I've been in high school I've been saying this since I was in high school it's not that hard not to get pregnant. I mean, depends on who you are, and it's not that hard not to get somebody pregnant, like if you have.
Speaker 1:You have this because I'm thinking right. If my parents have been telling me this since before I started having sex, I'm going to be like on some are you comfortable with abortions, like before we sleep together? If you get pregnant right now, would you want to keep it? Are you comfortable with getting rid of the baby? If I was one of those boys, that's something that I would ask like. I feel like they. They would just learn how to move different. A woman can change her mind completely. She can get emotional and change her mind. 100 that's. That's always a possibility. But I'm just saying I've always thought that not getting pregnant was not hard.
Speaker 2:I've been not getting pregnant for 30 years I mean, yeah, it just depends on I wouldn't say it's niggas who've been not having babies for mad.
Speaker 1:Most of my friends have been not getting bitches pregnant for mad long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just depends on your access. A lot of people, some people, don't have access to certain things.
Speaker 1:I would imagine these kind of individuals would have access to no.
Speaker 2:I'm saying not getting pregnant, but it doesn't mean that niggas wasn't going raw. That just means niggas didn't get the girl pregnant, like that. That just means niggas didn't get the girl pregnant, like that don't mean they wasn't taking the chances. Like that's the thing that you're not assuming you're. You're just looking at it from an outcome base thinking no I'm just if, just because I didn't have I know niggas who was letting it ripping bitches and they just didn't get kicked pregnant like that was I know niggas who was doing that.
Speaker 1:That's not what I'm when I say not getting pregnant, it's not hard, don't come in. Nobody like.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, even though they're like that's how I didn't get pregnant, yeah, but I'm saying there's still other things that are natural. Just because you didn't go to full ejaculation in her, that doesn't mean things weren't coming out during the process, and it happens. So niggas are still taking those chances and some niggas are being luckier than others. That's the thing. So again, you can.
Speaker 2:This isn't necessarily a preventative measure, it is a deterrent it's a deterrent, but it doesn't yeah at the end of the day, if it were to go to the the least like the least ideal outcome, you're destroying your generations and your family by doing it. That's the problem I have with it. Yeah, if you should okay long easy to make it short you shouldn't make something like that a punishment. That shouldn't be considered a punishment. And that's what you do when you say that.
Speaker 1:If you're adamantly against your children having children out of wedlock, what would you do as a parent to as a preventative measure instead of this?
Speaker 2:First you have to understand within yourself. There is no such thing as a preventative measure in this. First you have to understand within yourself. There is no such thing as a preventative measure in this. All you can do is educate a deterrent, like you said deterrent is teaching them, having them learn certain things and understand hey, comprehensive sexual education you want to put yourself in the best position now.
Speaker 2:If they choose to do that or not, that's going to be on them, but you want to at least show them like, hey, there's a way that you put yourself in the best position if you're going to do this that's my plan.
Speaker 1:I plan on having blunt conversations with my child about sex, about the terms, about everything, no matter how uncomfortable it was for me. My mom had 17 sex talks with me it was.
Speaker 1:It was wildly uncomfortable, I hated it. But she was a nurse, she had the talks with me and then I had I've always also said this I've I had um a wildly comprehensive sexual education in middle and high school, like it was very detailed. So I think education is the best deterrent and my plan is to overly educate my child like my mom did I mean, that's the best that you can do. And if something happens, just something happened every three months that woman was sitting me down and having a sex song.
Speaker 2:I was like god damn woman yeah, I mean, I just feel like when you, if your choice is to say I'm about to essentially shun my kid from the resources we develop, you're just destroying your own family at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:So you're just, you're setting yourself up up for failure yeah, I feel like I kind of I do agree with you, but then I kind of don't disagree with the parents either, like it's your choice to fuck up your own family I just feel like when it's black families, you don't really need to be playing like that I give the children the money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right so, uh, let's just, I just think this is hilarious. So we we haven't really covered the california wildfires a lot on the show, I think, because for me I've just kind of been like at a crossroads with it, because I know that there's like a lot of rich people losing, but also know there's like normal people there as well that are just trying to like survive.
Speaker 1:But I just there's. There's one town, um, not pasadena. There's another town, alton something. It's one of the. It's one of the first black, one of the first counties, the first black county in california that black people were able to get homes in, and that's one of the towns that was affected in the fires. There were like seven black people that died and, um, that's very unfortunate. So there were like not affluent, just regular middle class black people's neighborhoods that were affected by this fire. So, um, hearts out to to them, to all the rich people who have insurance.
Speaker 2:You'll be fine, you'll be okay and if you've been seeing like elon and them have been pushing a concerted effort, especially on x, to make it seem as though this is a hundred percent because of the failures of the california local government and some of their choices in regards to like di di and all that other bullshit, well, he goes on spaces, thinking he's gonna, you know, expose everything and get the word out. And so here here's, elon talking to a firefighter on Spaces.
Speaker 6:So, all right, what about water availability? Was water availability? I understand that was not an issue in Malibu, is that correct? Was it water? Yeah, so there was water. We have several reservoirs that Encino's we use a lot. Now just an example if we have one building burning, we could flow 1,000 gallons a minute on that one building. With the hose lathes that we put in to stop it, you can imagine 1,000 gallons per house. We couldn't do right. So the amount of water we're flowing, there really is no water system that's going to keep that pace. So we have to bring in water tenders, which are these big tank water tanks that you know 2,500, 3,000 gallon, yeah, trucks, and they'll come in. That's what we have to do to overcome, to compensate. So they park out there, do it. Dwt uh p did a great job. They brought in big water trucks for us all right and we use them as basically mobile hydrants.
Speaker 6:All right, right, right. And then we have our own agency as well that has water tenders okay, so he's going to start being thirsty like along the maybe I'm correct.
Speaker 2:If I'm wrong, along in malibu along the coast.
Speaker 6:There was no shortage of water in the palisades. There was a shortage of water at a certain point, or is that not? Well we were just. We were flowing just an amount of amount of water that the system couldn't overbearing, just because of how much water these firefighters were utilizing.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right so it wasn't a california issue. It was a infrastructure issue which people have been complaining about for years in this country, that our infrastructure needs to be better. They didn't have the infrastructure to get the water that they needed that they had to the areas because it couldn't contain how much water they would need. Like it, the system itself couldn't contain also, california is wildly hilly, so like getting and and it's windy too.
Speaker 1:They don't have fire hydrants like New York does, like they can't really they can't get the water to where they need to get the water. And then the gravity too, which you would think at this point California's infrastructure would support like.
Speaker 2:Boy, you got to think too that the infrastructure has been Not been a focus in this country Like building up infrastructure.
Speaker 1:That's not a thing, has been not been a focus in this country like building up.
Speaker 2:That's not a thing. Yeah, it's like the united. We talk about our roads and how they are, have been been railroads the fact that we haven't get, like we haven't been moving to a place where our infrastructure should be.
Speaker 1:Uh, and if we were, then people wouldn't. The economy would be better because people would be getting paid and people get more work. Yeah, people give you more work to help with the infrastructure and things of that nature so altadena is the neighborhood that I was telling you about the, the black neighborhood that was, yeah, apparently john brown's son was the one who founded it.
Speaker 2:John brown, the abolitionist who was killed, his son was the one who found. But I just wanted people just to have a better understanding because again, yeah, has there been flaws in certain things? Yeah, but it's not in the aspect of direct results from, hey, the government is doing xyz, it's just the fact that we have been limiting infrastructure because people don't want to keep investing that properly, like that's really the real thing there was also like a running out of water thing going on in california and I recently learned that, um, california's water is owned a lot of it is owned by a privately held agricultural business called Wonderful Company.
Speaker 1:Um, they don't own most of it, but they own a good amount of it. So, um, their names are Stuart and Linda Resnick. A very long time ago they had like a secret meeting that divided up California's like water, and they own a good amount of it. So they own, they have a majority stake in a water bank that can store one point five million acre feet, close to five 500 billion gallons of water. But that's, that's a small um fraction of the the state's water supply. But the fact that two like billionaires can own a portion of california's water supply is bill gates own water.
Speaker 2:absolutely, bill Gates been buying and owning bodies of water too.
Speaker 1:So California's groundwater basins combined can hold 566 times as much water, with storage capacity of 850 million to 1.3 billion acre feet According to the California Department of Water Resources, feet according to the california department of water resources, and they have 500 billion gallons of water that they can store so we'll see how this turns out.
Speaker 2:Again, the fire is still going on. Right, there's still fire. From what I've seen, it look like the fires were still been going on.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that they were still going on.
Speaker 2:Fire activity update to active fire.
Speaker 1:Oh damn Still. It's tough man, it's really, it's the wind.
Speaker 2:It's the wind, it's the fact that the trees are basically combustible. Yeah, there's a lot of flammable production from it. Yeah, the sap from that trees is highly um flammable shit is. It sucks out there so hopefully, you know, things can get better out there. They can get, they can quell that and future be you know, limit these things from happening, so we'll see that yeah uh, I do want to talk about, so I I have I've been trying so hard to confirm this story, about this gentleman who committed, who unalived himself after being exposed, um on a video.
Speaker 2:So essentially, the video is he after exposing himself on video he didn't expose himself on video.
Speaker 1:He was exposed on a video he had come to that establishment and exposed himself before, which is why the lady came out with the camera so basically, this place is like a starbucks version of hooters, so it's yeah, it's a coffee shop and the baristas are in bikinis.
Speaker 2:A little bit of sex work is being led with this and the guy comes up there and they say this happens. A bunch of guys that come up there and they'll come and have, like, their pants off or be naked in their cars and this one woman recorded this individual who was nude.
Speaker 1:He had his pants off in his car and he had done that at that location multiple times, which is why she recognized him. She came out and she asked him that had he been there before? She already knew he had been. And when you see like she looks into the car with the camera and he does not have any pants on and like his hand was on his dick too. Yeah, so he was fully like, ready to pleasure himself in this. So, establishment, not in this establishment. You see him drive off.
Speaker 2:And then it gets reported that he unalived himself from the embarrassment of said you know, revealing of the photos, and it also was known that he had kids and a family. And this is why the thing is I'm gonna be dead, dead ass about this. If he this is true that this man killed himself.
Speaker 1:From these actions, of this video coming out, that woman who posted it should get involuntary manslaughter no, she shouldn't yes, she should I'm so fucking shocked because this is somewhere where, like, you're not allowed to masturbate right, this is a coffee shop, like they're in bikinis, but this is basically hooters. Like you can't come into hooters with your dick out. This nigga has come to this place multiple times with his dick out, terrorizing the women in there, which is why she came out in the first place with the camera out, so that she could get some type of evidence, so that something could be done in, like banning him, getting a restraining order, something like that. That's why she took the video, her posting it on social media.
Speaker 1:I get that was a different choice, but if you do creepy ass shit, then you have to deal with the consequences. She should not have any consequence whatsoever for this. You, a creepy ass man, came in and did some creepy shit and then you exposed him and because of the embarrassment, he killed himself. That's not my fault. If I expose a creepy nigga and he kills himself, I'm going to applaud myself.
Speaker 2:Okay, so am I? I gonna be able to speak without being interrupted?
Speaker 2:go ahead so, again, I feel you that if he does come to your establishment and he does something that is clearly illegal, that you should bring that to the authorities. But if what's being reported is they posted that to embarrass him like they put that with the sole purpose of not to get justice but to embarrass him, you, this is problematic. Simple fact is hey, I understand what kind of establishment this is, but you're still dealing and dabbling in the dark arts of sexuality, so this is a byproduct of it. Again, the authorities can come in and swiftly clean up those things and make sure you know these individuals are charged for whatever offense they've done. But once you go out there with the purpose to shame him and he takes that and makes it his 13th reason you should be, uh, liable for that, you should.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying she got to go to jail. She can get some community service or do some probation, but no, you should be liable for that, because that should have only been put in the hands of the police officers and then the police could do what they want after that I'll agree with community service and it should have been put in the hands of the, the police officers.
Speaker 1:But there's no. That woman shouldn't step foot in jail, she shouldn't see and she should get like 15 hours of community service for real yeah, I'm just saying valentine, manslaughter, that's what this is charged with.
Speaker 2:Nothing in 15 hours of community service. Just because you put it out there and you just wanted to make him look bad like that still can affect someone's mental health and result in them taking their life.
Speaker 1:So I mean Because, like the same thing, like what if somebody, a nigga, pulled up to a park with his dick out and then somebody posted it and then before the police, even if somebody like didn't get the police involved, they killed themselves? Would you be, would you have the same sentiment?
Speaker 2:if that, if you put it out with the sheer intent on embarrassing that person, not to expose them or find like when I say expose, like find who they are, their name and things like that, that would be different. So but that's not what was going. That's what I'm saying, for what I've read. That was not what was going on.
Speaker 1:It was posted to embarrass them when do you, do you have the caption of what she posted?
Speaker 2:I haven't seen the original post from it okay.
Speaker 1:So I feel like, if you didn't see the original post and you don't know the actual, I'm talking about what?
Speaker 2:I intended preface, said that things that I've researched. When people were talking about it they were saying that they did it with the intent Purposes to embarrass him.
Speaker 1:Okay. I feel, like, if I don't see the actual Original post with the caption and if those people Like the articles you read didn't include the actual post with the caption, then you can't really like, you can't.
Speaker 2:I'm literally prefacing everything I'm saying with that, if that's, if they did yeah with this intention, then that's why they should be in jail. I'm not saying that anything happened factually. Okay, my intent if these were the intentions and this what happened from what I've read, then you should.
Speaker 1:That's uh, involuntary manslaughter 100 percent yeah, I feel like you should be able to expose creeps whenever you want, and if they kill themselves, then you probably should get a medal of honor see that happens, but then that word creep can be used.
Speaker 2:Who's a creep and who determines who's a creep?
Speaker 1:if you have your dick out anywhere in public I mean I feel you, but then I feel like that's maybe we can. We can start the goal post there.
Speaker 2:Dick out in public I just don't think that. Just your dick out of public, then now anybody can do no, I.
Speaker 1:I said we can start the goal post.
Speaker 2:I know what I'm saying the? The response is I don't think that you should have any. Still, we have impunity because he got his dick out in public. What do you mean? Well, I mean where he got his dick out in public. What do you mean? Well, I mean where he got his dick out in public. You can now push his picture everywhere to embarrass him.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying no, but he was in public.
Speaker 2:You can put anybody in public's picture anywhere tape it, but that, no, you can't put the. You can videotape it, but then to then put that on other sites and other places, that's when the they have rules against that. You can't just sit here, if you're. If you're live.
Speaker 1:If you're in public, you're live streaming on ig.
Speaker 2:Right and you live stream. You got the video going and then a nigga just walking around butt ass. You can get your stream cut off because he's well, because nudity is yeah. So I mean there's there's different things to take that you actually capturing it from him you're not getting sued for, but they're not going to allow you to now just show a nigga with a dick out yeah, but I'm just saying you're not, you're not gonna, you shouldn't be punished and to me it's all about your intention.
Speaker 2:That's part of the law. Is your intentions?
Speaker 1:I feel like, when it comes to um, somebody who has their dick out in public, your intention of why you recorded that video whether you wanted to embarrass them or not doesn't matter, because why is your dick out in public? See, I don't agree with that. That's why is your dick out in public? Tell me, tell me any rational reason, other than a psychotic break, that you would have your dick out in public, that it is okay whack 100, beat me up, let's move on.
Speaker 2:Just saying that's gonna be a reason why my dick out. Let's move on. All right, we can.
Speaker 1:When I saw this, I, I genuinely I was like I feel bad that he has kids and stuff, but like you made your own bed and now you had to kill yourself in it I don't think he had.
Speaker 2:You didn't have to kill yourself in it.
Speaker 1:He got pushed into the into it by embarrassment. You made your bed and then you killed yourself in it.
Speaker 2:Well, we can finish up right here with our last topic. So J Juan has no longer with the podcast, the Joe Budden podcast.
Speaker 1:We don't feel a difference. You were on two episodes.
Speaker 2:He was doing mostly Patreon. It was funny, though, because he was talking to us hey, subscribe to Patreon, nigga. It was funny, though, because he was talking to us about it and he was like, oh, you know, we already had this idea. It was going to be a three-month contract or whatever. Felt like a little bit less than three months because he wasn't on the show, the December much. I think it was maybe a couple episodes of Patreon that he did.
Speaker 2:But it's funny that seeing them let go, because Joe this morning on the show that released, said that they didn't lose anybody. They look into ad additions and it's just kind of funny to see where in the grand scheme is like oh, maybe that's where he didn't view J-1 is maybe as valuable as people may have perceived, because it was funny when he was talking to us about it. He was basically trying to say like hey, you know, this is what. It was funny when he was talking to us about it. He was basically trying to say like, hey, you know, this is what it was about. He's trying to figure out. You know, this is something he want to do and joe potentially may get a show for him in the future, but nothing sounds like that with how things are being responded.
Speaker 2:For the fact joe was on spaces, didn't even know j1 wasn't coming back like so he wasn't really even aware that he was wrapping up with the contract. Also, the fact he tried to act like, oh, this isn't nothing new, but the fact the contract was so short doesn't seem like anything we've seen from Joe in the past. Joe is at least going to do a year or two contract with you if he sees the value. And then the fact that he's not fighting to keep you to stay on the show. It just goes to show where they didn't see this as a valuable engagement. I don't think they got what they really wanted from it and I think it's with jay won.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean and partly I just don't think. I don't think he has the verbiage to resonate his what he's trying to say and when it comes out, instead of him sounding like a fresh voice or a fresh idea, he sounds like the dude remember, like back when he's coming. As I was the guy trying to bring back the 90s, especially new york. Niggas had that like for a while where there's always some guys trying to bring back the 90s and the 80s, so you didn't have that. When I was out here in georgia, the niggas that was moved down here from new york was always trying to relive the 90s and the 80s trying to do kid and play shit. Like that's what he I get from when I listen to him from harlem.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I didn't care that I'm kidding, but like it's mad corny old niggas, there's that's oh, that's not my point with him my point is people from every. This is people from every state that try to relive to me.
Speaker 2:To me, instead of feeling like a modern young nigga, he feels like he's trying to be a copy of what young niggas was three decades ago and that's where, to me, it doesn't feel like it resonates. And what joe would have wanted from that young artist when I young, that young podcaster because that's what we always say, the thing that he's doing with the, the guests coming in and out and changing out with stuff that we've been talking about in spaces a long time ago, and we've even said he needs to have a younger voice. But I just don't think jay wan being that younger voice fits, because it doesn't, if you listen to him on spaces too.
Speaker 2:Like he, he doesn't necessarily he can't argue his point.
Speaker 1:He doesn't argue his point. Good, he can't hold his own at all. Also, um, you know who I enjoy, mark yeah, mark lamont hill yes, mark lamont hill is a very good addition to that show because he's smarter than all the megas except no, he's smarter than everybody in the room he's the communicated do we feel like jay wan is a missed, was a missing part of the show that is going to be needed in the future?
Speaker 2:do you think joe is going to be upset that he let him go?
Speaker 1:um, I only watched that one episode that jaywon was on, which is like the first episode. That's the only one that I that I consumed with him. On from that episode I was really excited to have him be a continuous part of the show because he would agree with some of the, he would agree with some of the old nigga takes, but then he would kind of like fight back. I, I mean, I want there to be. It wouldn't work with J-Wan, but I want there to be someone young who can fully like actually argue with like Ish, because I feel likeh has the the most like solid old nigga views out of everybody. Would you agree with that? It's just a light-skinned one. Right, I was um confusing them for a while. I feel like the light-skinned one should be ice, but, um, I feel like ish has the most like old hood nigga views.
Speaker 2:He gives me kind of like mall vibes, like off the off the strength, off the like it's funny that you say mall, because I think with jaywon that was what a lot of people said they reminded him of was mall, but it was like all the mall's bad qualities, like trying to be too cool uh identifying with like bad politics yeah, in regards to like how people conduct themselves or in regards to different responses and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:So I think to me with him, like I said, he's just young, he he doesn't have the ability at this point to explain his points in a way that is conducive and makes sense, like he doesn't really land on it. It sounds very empty and immature and I think that's just what was getting exposed. It was like you got to be able to when you up there with them, you got to be able to stand on your own and you can't have instances like flips going off on you and Joe taking it out okay you can't have instances where flip is taking shots at you and Joe's taking it out because, oh well, I don't want my man's son to come out.
Speaker 2:If we're being honest, this, what it looks like, this was joe using jaywan to massage other relationships. Yeah, I'll put a little money in your pocket. You know your dad will be happy, he'll see you doing, you know, something positive. And now boom. But uh, I think that was the main thing with joe's intentions was was to do that was. I'm trying to create goodwill outside of other things that have almost little to do with J1. And his success is neither here nor there. It's a byproduct of what I'm really trying to do. If it is cool, if it isn't, I don't need it. But we'll see how he continues on with it and what he goes on with his career.
Speaker 2:I highly doubt Joe's going to bring him back on for a show unless he's able to like, curate some type of either someone with a big buzz or he himself maybe goes on like a social media rant and you know he was able to garner some type of real like popularity from that because, again, even from him, like I, this is my first time even being made familiar with him and apparently he's been rapping for a few years now, so we'll see if he's able to to turn it on, you know for himself, but I don't like new york rappers that be trying to rap like old new york niggas like yeah, he gives me a lot of king combs with a lot of this shit that he does let it go
Speaker 1:like he's trying to take his dad's heyday and I'm tired of that little dance that kim combs be doing the he's just trying to be his daddy like we're tired, we're tired we're tired, we tired, we're tired. And it's corny and it makes us cringe and you need to fucking stop. You need to develop your own identity and if you don't, fine, just be a fucking neppo baby.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that bothers me with. It is that one. I'm not really a fan of his music. I don't really like his voice, but to me it's just like I, but to me it's just like.
Speaker 1:I like his voice, his face or the way he moves.
Speaker 2:Or, but to me, the issue I have with, like him, trying to like fight these nepo baby allegations.
Speaker 1:You're a nepo baby.
Speaker 2:Being a nepo baby is something you're not in control of determining. Once you have that.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:Once somebody finds out who your dad is, they're going to change how they respond. And we've known who your dad was since you were born. Your dad is a look at me flashy, flashy, looky ass nigga. But even even this, though, he's not doing like no james washington type shit where he's like trying to disassociate john boyega no, james washington okay john james. John was john david washington, but I just called him john okay, oh john david washington yeah, yeah, he's not even doing what denzel, son was
Speaker 6:doing with denzel was them up making himself.
Speaker 2:Uh, denzel's son was trying to make sure people didn't associate him with denzel and with jay one. It's like you're not doing once your dad is seen and is, you know, doing interviews with you and stuff like that. That's a part of you're embracing it, which is not a bad thing, but you're just embracing it, so you can't, just because we don't know that your father is Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1:I'm not taking anything away from your talent, sir, but that doesn't mean that the casting producers don't know that your father is Denzel Washington.
Speaker 2:He was making concerted efforts not to make sure people didn't know who his dad was Like, his age and stuff.
Speaker 1:Was his dad making concerted efforts to make sure they wasn't seen together? They wasn't seen together like that.
Speaker 2:I was about to say they didn't start effort to make sure they wasn't together. Okay, I was about to say they didn't start like he even said, like he didn't even start making like appearances out with his dad until he started getting more reputable, like once I got older him with his dad at all yeah he just videos of him when he was a little boy with his dad, like going to the eagles game and shit like that, and then you don't see him more with his dad.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy? There was this one dude on the internet who everyone was saying was morris chestnut, son for mad long. And I thought he was morris chestnut son for mad long. Turns out morris chestnut son don't look like morris chestnut whatsoever. It's very, very sad. Like that, morris chestnut son look like a stud before we. Before we leave.
Speaker 2:Who do you think is like, though I don't want to say like- it's so sad I don't want to put it as the worst, but, like before we wrap up, who would you say is like the most unperforming, like the least? It's not successful? But I'll just say who you think is like the worst kid, nepo, baby.
Speaker 2:Like underperformed or never lived up to the hype, or because I got one um mine is seven erica badu and andre 3000 son, like the fact that we never was she, she has consistently no, oh no, no, that wasn't, that wasn't her.
Speaker 1:Lauren, lauren hill's daughter is the one who has consistently come out and talked about her mother's emotional abuse her entire life but that doesn't make her shit.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying like he never came out. I almost mixed them up yeah, the reason I'm saying with him is because he for your dad to be one of the best rappers of all time, your mom to be one of the best artists has he tried, though, to make music when? I looked, I tried to look him up to see if he does like. He dabbled in it, but he never made it into like a serious career yeah, maybe he's just not that passionate about it. I'm saying that still sucks, that's like that.
Speaker 1:Sucks like lebron james jr not playing basketball, oh my god I got a better one, magic johnson's son ej yep, ej fly, though ej fly, but as far as like our expectations I mean he's six, eight, so i8".
Speaker 2:So I mean he would have had a mean hook shot. That nigga is 6'8" and he wears heels. That nigga is 7'7" On a regular basis that nigga could have had a mean hook shot if he would have wanted to play.
Speaker 1:He could have, but that's not what he wanted, don't he?
Speaker 2:got like another son that's not as tall too Like, or doesn't too like, or doesn't like to me. Like that's the shit. Like ej, you could have been a 6-1 queer nigga. Like we could have switched. Like I would have loved to have that height and then I would have played some ball and then you could have been a 6-1 queer nigga like let's switch. Like that's. The thing that always made me upset with ej too was like bro, like it'd be different if you was gay and you didn't meet the measurables.
Speaker 1:My nigga like why can't you be gay and still play basketball?
Speaker 2:is my thing like you can't be a gay basketball player. You want to run, though he don't look like he want to work out he don't look like he want to do any of that.
Speaker 1:He don't look like he work out yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, he lost a little weight I haven't seen him in a while you look at his more recent picture, he lost a little weight but you could tell where. Like he'd be doing the stair master, like he ain't trying to lift no heavy fucking weight.
Speaker 1:No, he's trying to get that waist tiny and that ass fat. He's not trying, to like, gain muscle mass.
Speaker 2:I want to see him and Saucy have like a queer off.
Speaker 1:That'll be interesting so, oh, my god.
Speaker 2:I was trying to wrap it up, but we don't have to.
Speaker 1:If you want, no, let me just mention this real quick because I did want to talk about this. Saucy santana was on poor minds recently and so the first episode back of carisha, please. Saucy interviewed, interviewed her and he asked her a couple questions about like the diddy stuff and I didn't watch that because I hate carisha, please.
Speaker 2:I hate her interview style me interviewed on your own show is sick right.
Speaker 1:I hate the way she speaks because it sounds like she don't know full English, which you know I don't like. I don't like listening to Cardi B speak for that same reason and it just it makes me. It makes me cringe and it makes me like it's it's respectability politics, for sure, like it's something I have to, but it embarrasses me as a black woman just seeing her exist in general and speak, so it's my fault, though I said that I have to unpack, that I need to let ghetto uneducated bitches be ghetto uneducated bitches and not think that that impacts us all as a whole negatively. He asked her a couple couple questions about Diddy. Drea and Lex brought that up and Drea and Lex were on some like they're trying to defend Karisha Young Miami and try to separate her from Diddy and all the shit he was doing. But Santana was literally like defending Diddy, he was defending Diddy, he wasn't even defending Karisha. He, he literally said that the only thing that we saw was that video and nothing else. No evidence has been brought up in court and they won't give this man bail.
Speaker 1:And leia um lex and drea were like, well, he hasn't been giving bail for a reason, because he's a flight risk. And then he goes on to say uh, the thing about how we only, we only saw the video and stuff. And then they were like, well, I think that's fair because, like, everything we've seen so far has not, has not been good. And then they were also like and we're not here to defend Diddy, we're here to defend Karisha, because she was only there for a little bit and we don't actually know what she did. Her cousin was dragged into it and everything else.
Speaker 1:Santana just kept defending Diddy and you could tell, like Lex and Dre were trying to give him an out, an exit, and he was not taking it, which is why I'm going to uphold my. He was. He also brought that up. He's like oh, people were saying online that I'm a beard and she wasn't really fucking with him and blah, blah, blah. But young miami wouldn't even fuck with nothing. That's gay, which is a choice of words because you're gay but she did say that thing about the kids, remember he?
Speaker 1:said the same thing. He said that he wouldn't want his child to be gay either, but he's. He said it's because he knows all the difficulties that he went through.
Speaker 2:He wouldn't want wanting your kid to be gay and then treating them a particular way when they're yeah I think that's what she was more in line with, saying that she was going to treat him a particular kind of way. But no, I just think that it's clearly he's protecting his boo. Obviously did.
Speaker 1:He made him feel close like a warm teddy bear and then protecting him so after he brought up the fact that diddy we saw diddy actually beat the crap out of cassie, he um, honed down and like doubled down on the fact that he never put his hands on caricia. He was a completely man, different man, with caricia. She had been in a domestic abuse relationship twice before that and she wouldn't take that. I just didn't like it, like, oh he might have did that with her, but my bitch wouldn't take that. He never put his hands on my bitch so and he never gave that with her. So I don't believe that he did all that it. It just gives dumb bitch.
Speaker 2:Man Saucy know if he would have seen Diddy go across her head, he just would have got the steak out the freezer and would have told her to suck it up. He got money, girl. We got to hold it down.
Speaker 1:And then that's what Drea said. She said she was like oh, I never said this on the show before, but who wouldn't fuck with Diddy? He's a billionaire. A lot of people wouldn't fuck with Diddy, like there's a lot of women in this world who would not fuck with a man just because he has money. When Lori Harvey going to speak out. Lori is never going to speak out. She said that she did not fuck with that man. Point blank period.
Speaker 1:We got video. She said that she did not fuck with that man. Point blank period. She said video she said.
Speaker 6:She said that she did not fuck with both of them.
Speaker 1:She said she would outfits that's it, regardless of the fact that they was a matching outfits. She has come out publicly and denied that, and so has he. So even if it actually did happen, we will never get the truth out of either of them hey, man, y'all know what y'all gotta do.
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