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Druski Named in Diddy Case, Doechii Violates Straight Men, and Lil Yachty Shows us he's Dumb
The swirling vortex of celebrity culture takes center stage as we unpack how public figures wield their influence—for better or worse. From the unfolding Diddy case with its bizarre allegations against Druski and Odell Beckham Jr., we examine how sensationalism might serve as a calculated strategy to undermine legitimate victims by mixing credible claims with outlandish ones.
We celebrate Doechii's Billboard Woman of the Year award while analyzing the fascinating backlash to her Hot Ones interview where she named "straight men" as a dating red flag. The disproportionate outrage reveals deeper truths about masculinity and desire—why do straight men react so strongly to not being positioned as objects of desire? This connects to broader conversations about authentic self-expression in public spaces and the contradictory expectations placed on Black female artists.
The sports world offers rich material as we dissect LeBron James confronting Stephen A. Smith for criticizing Bronny's performance. When you leverage your influence to get your son onto the Lakers, doesn't that open the door to legitimate professional critique? Meanwhile, a disturbing high school track incident where one athlete allegedly struck another with a baton sparks discussion about competition, accountability, and how social media transforms local incidents into national conversations about violence.
Perhaps most importantly, we challenge Lil Yachty's dangerous misinformation about Black Lives Matter, providing factual corrections backed by Associated Press reporting that debunked fraud allegations. The responsibility that comes with having a platform cannot be overstated, especially when speaking about movements fighting for justice.
From changing gender dynamics at the local Valvoline to the nuanced understanding of identity politics, we're asking the questions that matter: Who gets to control narratives in our media landscape? And what happens when truth becomes less important than spectacle?
whenever you say that like lawyers will get in trouble, for as I feel like, as long as the lawyer and the client are on the same page, who is finding out?
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Speaker 2:No, it's insane like the way that we're so comfortable with celebrities and people like spreading their ass for even politicians at this point. Now, stephen A again with us being journalists, so I'm always gonna you know, be on the side of free speech and making sure that our, our words are protected. You coming up to try to threaten him or try to be hostile with him, bro, that's lame as hell yeah, that's lame, and I you know me, I put lebron james top five black men you like this person because it's this person.
Speaker 1:You're a pansexual, very simply put like. You like her because of her personality, of what makes her hurt, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2:That's. That's exactly what that is. It don't sound like she gonna run from the, though like that's not the way that, the way that she explained it. It just seemed like the the that's coming for her is.
Speaker 1:She don't want things are being just attached to this lawsuit that's taking away from the the validity of the, the.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like when the people putting in the documents that Buddy oiled himself up and was like he was trying to do a slip and slide, like come on, how am I supposed to take that Seriously? How am I supposed to think about Drewski oiling his fat body up?
Speaker 1:And then trying to slide over something, anything. I've been looking at this video from every single angle. I could find it. At first I thought she'd definitely be her upside the head.
Speaker 2:I was like I was like that is crazy understand why, if you think she's not attractive, that then you care, yeah, that she doesn't want men that was straight men.
Speaker 1:That was the weird thing to me because straight men do not want to not be the object of desire.
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Speaker 3:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What the f*** do you think your f***ing ass is doing?
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Speaker 2:I'm just like we had experience today. I just feel like it was funny. I don't even think it's like nothing to even be like. It's a shame, it's just funny to see. So we went to go get our oil change and generally, when you go to places like this, you're gonna think you're gonna see a certain group of people, a certain style of people up to the valvoline and it was all studs.
Speaker 2:It was the valvoline ran by studs it was a stubble and it was great. At first I thought it was just one. It was like all right, you know you usually got one that's gonna do the little click clicks no, it was all studs everywhere, the whole vehicle.
Speaker 1:They studded up the vehicle and then it was actually the most efficient oil change I've ever had I ain't gonna lie, you're right it was. We was in and out they were communicating with each other like they were, like on other sides of the car, like yelling things to each other.
Speaker 2:I was like they had their stud hand signs to each other okay, you know what I'm saying. It was, I'm trying to tell you it was. It was, it was something to see. But it also made sense to me why the chicken don't hit the same way like it used to shoddy outside. Now she out there changing oil and tires strappling strappling.
Speaker 1:I was waiting for a moment to put that in no, but I mean just to see this, the coordination.
Speaker 2:It was just funny just to see that kind of view. I haven't seen that in a minute, like the female mechanic the men are out here podcasting and being bad especially in atlanta.
Speaker 1:That's hate. These niggas is wearing leggings. No, I still think they the prize.
Speaker 2:No, I still niggas tatted up. You know I'm saying changing the oil and getting it done. It's just few, isn't? It's just more studs and more people actually kind of getting into it, because the cars have gotten so simple that it really doesn't take too much, bro, these niggas can walk underneath the car like if anybody could do that, anybody could change the oil bro, we rolled up and then she came out.
Speaker 1:I was like not a stud. And then another one came out. It was like they just kept appearing out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, they was everywhere. These are all studs. It was like no man. It was like a themyscira of a car construction of mechanics. It was really funny oh man, but no, I, I appreciate it. They did a good job for us.
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Speaker 1:All right, calling semi all day tripping on my next tail on my two way. All right. After mac miller died, there's no more white rappers. That's it, yeah he took him.
Speaker 2:He took all the power clip, he took all the power with him no more new ones.
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Speaker 2:I played the end song you was learning. You said I thought you were about to say jack harlow because that would have been a more solid. I, jack Miller, you like Ian.
Speaker 1:I played an Ian song and you said that shit was slap I thought you were about to say Jack Harlow, because that would have been a more solid.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you would like Jack Harlow, because Jack Harlow is just Diet Drake.
Speaker 1:No, I like Jack Harlow, I liked Jack.
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Speaker 1:You are too excited for the non-viewing listeners I got a bob. I'm doing the bob dance.
Speaker 2:And for the people watching. They are like what's wrong with her.
Speaker 1:Is she?
Speaker 2:spazzing. They think there's something going on with you.
Speaker 1:Isn't spaz like technically a?
Speaker 2:non-PC term. Yeah, it's a non-PC term, but we're going to keep it alive.
Speaker 1:We say the R word on here 17 times that episode I mean we restoring the feeling we like last. I said that last episode that we need to stop saying that as much I'm just saying we were storing you say more to me.
Speaker 2:That was about to say that you were way worse than me but we were storing the feeling, so I can't. I don't know what you want from us.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I feel like if you're from new york then you should get more leeway into to try to stop saying retarded they're not giving you no leeway, you just gotta thug it out.
Speaker 2:But uh, going into people who are not getting leeway right now, some, some new names have been added to the diddy case, so it's never ending it just seems like now I guess we'll get into it before I get that, before let's, let's just tell people what occurred. So, uh, druski and odell beckham were named in recent documents.
Speaker 2:I think this lady was named ashley parman, par par, I believe that's how it is ashley parham and she and it was two other, jane does, and they added to this list actually a long list of defendants on it was there yeah, I mean, hold on, I got it right here, but it was like it had jaguar right on there. It had druski.
Speaker 1:Odell, beckham were the the most notable people that were on there yeah, those are the two that I saw and I feel like everyone else probably um. But on the in the lawsuit it said defendant druski, um caught himself from sliding over plaintiff's oiled body and off the bed. He then began r wording plaintiff vaginally um while defendant druski was r rating plant plaintiff plaintiff. I'm sorry, I can read, I promise um defendant diddy sat in a chair near the bed and began pleasuring himself while recording plaintiff's r word by defendant druski yeah.
Speaker 2:Then they said the odell came up next and did he kept watching. But then it goes into like some details about like a fight happened afterwards and like a neighbor came over. So I mean it's, it's, it's a lot. I mean people should check it out and definitely give it a read again. I don't want to this. This goes back to the jay-z situation for me because again I don't ever want to come here and see, like I'm being a bad faith interpreter of you know, someone coming out and saying they were a victim of anything.
Speaker 2:But it feels like just a lot of things are being just attached to this lawsuit that's taking away from the, the validity of the, the lawsuit itself yeah, like when you're when the people putting in the in the documents that buddy oiled himself up and was like he was trying to do a slip and slide, yeah, like, come on, like, how am I supposed to take that seriously? How am I supposed to think about druski oiling his fat body up?
Speaker 1:and then trying to slide over something, anything anyone any? Anything. And then it said that, um, the defendant tried to grab their phone, but they were too oily so it slipped out of their hand like, this is a movie it what cartoon like it's? It seems like a very cartoonish um scene of just like things slipping and slotting and fat people and like I don't know and is there even enough oil to get on? Drewski did.
Speaker 1:He had enough oil if anybody had enough oil to oil jewski down, it was diddy that's a lot of oil for a slip and slide that with that. That is the only thing that checks out.
Speaker 2:That's enough oil. That's like enough oil to start a world war so did um.
Speaker 1:Did you see what it said um about? Uh, odell beckham, because I could, I didn't find any like of the.
Speaker 2:Well, actual, the only thing the only thing I saw what odell was involved and they said that after druski did his thing um, he came up next oh so it was like a, like a, not a.
Speaker 1:It was a ring, sorry. You okay, hiccups.
Speaker 2:It was a gang, our word. Yeah, it was a gang grape, but um so.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, let me drink some water.
Speaker 2:Both of them have vehemently denied these allegations, to the point of even saying, in 2018, when these acts have been alleged to have occurred, he wasn't even famous yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said this allegation is a fabricated lie. I wasn't a public figure in 2018. I was broke, living with my mom without any connections to the entertainment industry at the time of this allegation, so the inclusion of my name is truly outlandish. My heart breaks for actual victims of abuse, but I'm fully confident that the evidence will expose this falsehood and individuals who are maliciously trying to gain the legal system to peddle false narratives. So Juski was like I wasn't even famous. Odell did the same thing.
Speaker 2:He wrote similar statement regarding that. That what's kind of we got to get into is that potentially we may be seeing the part of this where a lot of the victims who are really have authenticity have been paid out and settled already and now we're just putting out information so that we can make these men look like, oh, everybody was lying and that's what it feels like now, even with the, the jay-z thing that was going on with him and busby.
Speaker 2:Then you get this, Even when you go back to the Lil Rod, Like even the Lil Rod statements, a lot of that comes to me and feels like okay, we're putting people out here and we're giving these blogs this information and these court documents, Even though they're, like you know, not even have any credibility to them.
Speaker 1:Just so. It makes everybody and everything look like okay now we got to look at everything twice because if people were coming out saying druski's being a slip and slide, yeah, and then they attached jay-z and that wasn't even a thing. That's true that we know now I feel like I saw that that um point a couple times on the internet that this is a tactic of this lawyers a disinformation campaign yeah, so we'll see what happens, but it's just, it's a mess.
Speaker 1:Like I want this. I want this trial to start and end and I want diddy to be locked up already and whoever was, whoever was, on his team um accompanying accompanying him being his accomplice. That's what I meant whoever was his accomplice. They need to be thrown in jail too, and it just I'm over it see.
Speaker 2:A lot of this comes to me. I think about this video that had whack 100 and they were listening to a phone call did he was having a jail call he was having with his sons and they remember him telling him like don't forget to throw away the pizza boxes, and so like I'm just thinking about the code that was being expressed there, like obviously that's he's telling him something that he doesn't want the authorities, the tapes again.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's the tapes. My thing is, when you have something like that going on, it's to me doesn't come off far-fetched, because he even spoke about jay. Had he spoke to jay, they said that in the phone call too. It seems like it would be a good idea to put out, you know, these erroneous claims so that our names can look clearer farther on down the line, so that when people remember this they remember all of these big conversations that happened. Oh, him and stevie jay, and you know how outrageous that sound the, the things that were going on with, like I said, a young lady in jay-z and just how that just so far-fetched that the father doesn't even like. Those things resonate and stay in your brain a lot longer than him settling for 30 million and that was quick and over with. There's another people he was selling. You know there's a plenty, plenty of people that he has settled with so far it's less sensational news when he settles versus like when there's some crazy story that came out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and those stories, like I said, can take away from the authenticity of the people from the front. So, like, not even just the cassies, because obviously we have video to substantiate that, but you also have, you know, just the other people I like and I don't want to get in too far in all the names and all that stuff that's going on, because it's a whole bunch.
Speaker 2:It's a long list of names, but there has been people that have already have settled with him and, like I said, that is a way to turn because, like I said, this case isn't over. He's still in jail, it's still gonna have to go to trial and you want the jury to potentially have much reasonable doubt as possible and, like I said, this is just all part of a campaign. I'm pretty sure he's like spending like his life savings doing this right now.
Speaker 1:He's probably.
Speaker 2:I would spend as much money as I could to get me out of jail too, so yeah so I just well, I hate to see that the black men that have to go down regarding regarding this I hope that you know I'm saying like they're not involved, because that would be sick, like to put your name in the mud just to be like, oh no, don't worry, we'll clean it up and make sure it's not. You know authentic, you know authenticated and there's no validity to these, to these allegations, and everybody look at you like, oh, look at them, just trying to lie on them and take them down.
Speaker 1:I hope that's not because that's that's sick, but we live in a world right now where that's not as far-fetched there's always a group of dudes that are like oh, they're trying to take them down, take down the black man and blah, blah, my thing is not even trying to take down the black man.
Speaker 2:I'm talking more to the fact of diddy telling these guys like hey, I'm going to put your names in the, I'm going to tell them to put your names in these documents, so that you can then say hey this is no way, this can happen.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what you meant I misunderstood.
Speaker 2:I hope they're not actively being a part of this. You know I'm saying where they know diddy is hey, I'm gonna send you some of this, some cash, send you someone because odell ain't playing, so some money would be really good for him from from diddy. Right now, uh, druski has a lot of reason to get cachet and you know, getting put in certain positions because of what diddy can do, so I'm not mad at that either.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I feel like it's a it's not a good move for oh, it's stupid if what we're alleging is actually happening. Because he has. He's a rising star. He has brand deals on brand deals and it's only a matter of time before he's like a household name I'm not gonna lie, though.
Speaker 2:getting charged or being accused of sexual assault is a horrible thing in regards to like your credibility and name, but then being able to show that you were actually innocent and that these claims have no validity is a bigger push and a better check Mark to your name than anything else, cause people will remember that People be like oh, they cause I. I remember when they tried to lie on Bieber and Bieber's team put out everywhere he was uh, during the time where they alleged this occurred and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:I don't remember him, oh yeah, being accused of anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah it was a woman, because they they put out all that information so fast that it made it so that nobody had no reason to believe it yeah, there was no reason anybody could believe it.
Speaker 2:But no, they had went down and she was like, oh, this happened this month. He said, no, bieber was here, we have his tour, we have whatever you know his photos of him during this time, all that stuff. Like it was crazy how fast that happened. But, like I said it to your core fan base and to the people who care about you, that resonates a lot more because now you feel like there's an enemy trying to take my person down, you know. So like it could be I could convince somebody to pull some shit like this off. I think so, but maybe I'm just nefarious like that like you think you are the king of manipulators.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's manipulation. I think you can spin that into a way that it feels like both people win. Manipulation that's not manipulation if it's true. Manipulation is if I don't think you can win. But I tell you that there's a way that you can win in this, knowing that more than likely won't happen.
Speaker 1:That's manipulation. We more than likely won't happen. That's manipulation. We'll see what happens with this, though.
Speaker 2:Um, I feel like both of them are probably just gonna prove that they weren't part of this, and then it'll make this whole thing just less valid yeah, I just I can imagine that the only thing, the only thing that kind of takes a little bit of credibility away from that, would be the lawyers, because you can be disbarred from that putting in allegations that you know are not true into the court. So that's the only reason you're like, okay, maybe that's not what's happening, because why would you want to be disbarred for even what these niggas could pay?
Speaker 1:I come from the thought what? What am I trying to thought? A thought process, yeah, no, like the thinking, yeah the thought process. I guess I'll say I come from the thought process of like Shondaland Right. So when you say that lawyers doing bad things will lead to them getting disbarred, it doesn't click in my head because annalise was getting her shit off she had more of a.
Speaker 2:She was connected to the crime a lot closer than these people are but that not every crime not for every season, for the first one yeah but um, um scandal that she was getting all of the lawyers in scandal was getting they shit off.
Speaker 1:So whenever you say that, like lawyers will get in trouble, for, as I feel, like as long as the lawyer and the client are on the same page, who is finding out?
Speaker 2:ABC, you did a number on my baby, not just.
Speaker 1:ABC, just Shonda Rhimes, don't give.
Speaker 2:ABC, the organization the credit.
Speaker 1:It was Shonda.
Speaker 2:Shonda, you didn't destroy my little baby brain with your black woman conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1:I'm like what do you mean? Lawyers get in trouble for things.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you just ended up marrying a white man. Or maybe that's what you think of me. Shonda Rhimes, you didn't want to laugh, oh they never want to laugh like that. Oh ha ha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that. Oh yeah, she does do that a lot. I've said that on this show like she needs, so you should have laughed. So I'm just.
Speaker 2:No, I just don't think your joke was funny. That's hate. All right, uh was anything else. We need to touch on with this, any other no that was it.
Speaker 1:I didn't have any other points I wanted to make all right.
Speaker 2:So did you see what happened with lebron james and steven a?
Speaker 2:I heard about it yeah so if y'all not didn't what was going on, I'm pretty sure it has been like a week from now. But I want to get into what Stephen A recently just did. Lebron checked Stephen A regarding some of the conversations he was having on his show about what he said. He claims hey, leave my son out of this. He then goes on the next day. He's playing and he talks to Richard Jefferson, a former teammate who's on ESPN and some people are able to get the voice, you know recording of what they were said. He said this in front of cameras but they wasn't talking on ESPN and basically he said something about Stephen A. He was like man just once he did that dad stuff, I couldn't you know. And Stephen A was saying that that kind of directly conflicted with what was said on the court. So I'm gonna get into, I'm gonna play with that dad stuff.
Speaker 2:Basically saying, like in a part of Stephen A's overall criticism was like, bro, you his dad and you the one who put him in this predicament to fail at the scale that he was failing in that game Because Bronny had a really bad game.
Speaker 2:He like played really early in the game. It wasn't like a blowout or nothing. He got real minutes against a real team and got exposed. So Stephen A was just being honest, doing his, doing his job, like hey, bro, your, your son, got his ass kicked and it's largely because of you. And lebron didn't take too kindly to that and that's why he checked him in front of everybody at the lakers game oh, in front of everybody, yeah, he went right.
Speaker 2:He walked right up to him in front of the lakers game and during actually during the time out, and said all this to him because you hear him or could you see what he was saying. You couldn't really make it out it was more people like who caught?
Speaker 2:it was mostly like the fans okay it wasn't really like it was a timeout, so you know, usually they're on commercial during the timeout or whatever. So it was the fans who caught. You know the experience. And then he had to talk about it on the show. He actually went.
Speaker 1:Stephen A commentates on the Lakers game. He's like they're at the games. No, he's not commenting.
Speaker 2:He's was just at the game because they're playing the Knicks, so that's his team, or whatever. So he was just in LA like I'm just enjoying the game.
Speaker 2:Okay, so he was just like in the crowd on the sidelines okay he was on the floor and so I want to pull up, because Stephen A was recently on Gil's arena and they were trying to just get him on there. Really, it was to discuss him and one of the co-hosts their kind of beef but because of what was going on with LeBron and him, that became center stage. I'm going to play a little bit of what was said during that episode. Y'all tap in with Gil's Arena.
Speaker 8:You had called me and said LeBron pissed off, motherfucker, mad as hell, he want to see you. Man to man. I said what would I have done? Rich Paul said you'd have hung up the phone and you'd have flew to LA. I said, thank you. So my point is, rather than come up to me at courtside, all you had to do was say yo, I need you to stay, don't leave this game. I need you to stay, don't leave this game. I need to see you after the game. That's all he had to say to me. Then, as we speak, he says that let's take an example. He said what you just said I stand down my bad, and not only that. I'm going to make sure I go on the air. I ain't looking at it that way. That's on me. I ain't looking at that way. That's on me.
Speaker 8:You didn't do that shit. You said you fucking with my son. I wasn't. I was talking about you. I was talking about you, wasn't? You wasn't about your son. I know he's number 55. I know he got work to do. I believe that he got potential. I believe that he got the potential to go pro. I truly believe that it's going to be tough, but I think he can pull it off and, by the way, I rule for him. I ain't ruling against nobody, but I was talking about your ass. You, you did this. You the one that had us as reporters as a league, as an NBA franchise. All of us got to sit back and be quiet and capitulate to your shit come on now you did that.
Speaker 8:And so when I see people talking and I'm like, oh my god, can somebody? I mean I know I got a show and I know I got my podcast but I'm like, goddamn y'all, I'm fair, I don't give fuck who it is, it's you, it's you, it's you't matter who it is, damn it, I'm just meeting you. If somebody unfair to you, I'm going to be like that's not fair, that's not fair. But when it come to me, everybody get crickets. That motherfucker, stephen A on his own, that respectfully excuse my language, that's fucked up. I we know I'm right. Number two we know the perspective that I'm coming from is real and it's authentic. Number three he set this up. Number four All you had to do was tell me it listed. Can? You told me? You keep talking about bringing this up for all fun.
Speaker 8:He talked about how he approached me in Puerto Rico. I swear to God I don't remember. I swear to God, but I know this much. But you do. And let me tell you what I did. I was writing for the Philadelphia Inquirer. This is from 1993 to 2010.
Speaker 8:Shit, I said what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2:I called Philadelphia Inquirer, so he just goes into more about his history and how he would go and find information.
Speaker 1:You cut it off at the perfect time because I was zoning out how he would go and find information.
Speaker 2:Perfect time because I was zoning out. But no, I I really agree with steven a in this regard because out of all the people in the media industry, they keep it above board, like a lot of the times with the sports media that people, I think, have criticism with espn. For the large part these guys may make Outlandish claims and they'll talk about stuff, but for the most part, a lot of the good ones, they keep it about the game and that's all Stephen A's criticism has been about. And when you put your son In the light To say You're about to be A Los Angeles Laker, you're going to be my teammate, you can't sit there and be like, oh, don't talk about my son, leave my son out of it how was he talking about his son?
Speaker 2:all he was saying was, like I just explained earlier, where he was not ready for that moment and that he basically could have, you know, destroyed his confidence. Like you know things like that. He was basically explaining to him like bro, you put him in this position to fail and you're not protecting him. Like he should only be playing like.
Speaker 1:In steven a's opinion, he should only be playing steve uh g league games has steven a been like going in like every chance he gets, like every episode he actually talks about it and that's what I should check out the girls arena episode he was on.
Speaker 2:He talks about how like I did not, he did not want to talk about brawny, but when you put your son in the first quarter of a game against uh, you know a team that's they're not good, but they have names. They got paul george, they got tyree smacks, it was the sixers, okay. So when you put them against somebody that has legit names people who've been all-stars, and he goes out there and gets cooked, there's going to be a discussion about, hey, this guy shouldn't be here on the court right now, even though he's been playing really good in the g league. He's been having really good numbers. Granted, there could be some incentive to make sure that he's looking good with his teammates and things of that nature, but I won't get into all that he played back.
Speaker 1:You too. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2:He was playing back and and steven a again with us being journalists. So I'm always gonna you know, be on the side of free speech and making sure that our, our words are protected.
Speaker 2:You coming up to try to threaten him or try to be hostile with him, bro, that's lame as hell yeah that's lame and I you know me I put lebron james top five black men, so that doesn't change just because of this moment. But you did this, like he just said, you the one who did this. You tweeted. He tweeted that, lebron, he was better than half the league lebron he said yeah, lebron, he tweeted. He deleted it, but he tweeted that. And this is before the heart attack. That's your son, of course, but it was before the heart attack and everything it was before all that stuff it was before all the heart attack and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But you put that pressure on him. So then you can't be mad when people are having, I think, softball conversations about the kid, because I would be going crazy.
Speaker 1:Because if Steven's not going in, if he's not discussing him every chance he gets, if he's not being disrespectful, if he's not punching down on the boy, he's just doing his job, Then yeah, that's part of being an athlete. There's going to be sports journalists that are going to critique your performance when you perform well or badly.
Speaker 2:And I'll argue all the stuff that you said that he's not doing. That's part of it too, especially when you play on one of the biggest franchises in your league yeah, it ain't like he somewhere in utah, you know I'm saying playing a team that nobody's looking at. This is the lakers y'all play every night. So if you're even on the bench, you're in the game. At times that's going to get bigger publicity than if you were a cleveland cavalier or, uh, charlotte hornet. So bron got to understand that he can't just be with the land. I understand you are. He's embarrassed. Lebron is probably embarrassed. He probably feels a little bit away about how everything has played out, how things have looked you think it's ego?
Speaker 1:of course, because it doesn't make too much sense as to why he's checking Steven.
Speaker 2:He knows that the reason why his son is being criticized is because of him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your son wouldn't be in this position if it wasn't for you.
Speaker 2:So that's why he kind of takes it as an offense towards himself. And I understand that.
Speaker 1:But it's lame. That's nobody's fault but your own.
Speaker 2:then yeah you can't get mad at you trying to rig the system in a way which, again, you have all right to do. You've been playing in this league for 20 years. You've helped them generate billions of dollars.
Speaker 1:I think black people need to rig the system for their children to just be mediocre. It's just nasty when it's in sports though I'm not calling Bronnie mediocre.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's just nasty. When it's in sports, that's all you. When it's when it's like a desk job or like a bullshit position where you just got to come in and wear a tie, that's different. But when it's sports, you kind of dilute the league a little bit.
Speaker 1:You kind of make it a little bit of a like a like a circus more well, let's not say all that, because you said brawny does have promise and he is young and he is, um, yeah, but mature basically, but if he, was anybody else's son, he would be lucky to be on a g league team right now.
Speaker 2:He'd be traveling everywhere they go on a bus, not no plane or anything. He wouldn't be doing only home games. He'd be traveling, road games and doing all of that. I think he's doing road games now, but he would not have the road he has now. It would not be painted. Even he was an NBA kid's son, but they just weren't. Lebron James, Like the street would not be paved with gold the way it is Like I don't think people understand. When you get to that sub like basketball pro shit, don't miss some of the most selfish me first individuals that you'll ever be around.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Like the G League?
Speaker 2:Yeah, G League, European League. If you play college ball and you play community college ball like it's a dog, you have to play against the opponent and your teammates. It's a dog eat dog world, so it wouldn't be people giving the ball to Bronny, letting him put the ball up on. No nigga, you get down. I got it. I've been here longer. I've been doing this way longer than you.
Speaker 1:They trying to get into the league as much as they can?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to get as much touches, I'm trying to get as much tape, and so for him to be able to get on a fast track for development and if you are able to, you know, fill out a little bit, get a little more confident with your shot, you might be a serviceable player, but in that same, right through that process, you are going to be heavily criticizing anybody else who's ever been drafted at your position.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, so Really quickly. While we're on sports, did you see that high school track star?
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to have that on here to assault.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:OK, let me bring that up so get into that a little bit.
Speaker 1:So there's a. There are these. There was a high school track race and this video came out and it looks like well, let me start over. There was a high school track race and one of the girls who was running has a concussion and something else she has like a fractured skull a fractured skull from a baton.
Speaker 1:Allegedly. She was allegedly hit by a baton by another track star. So the other girl there's a video of it in the video. So the other girl there's a video of it in the video. It looks like she literally takes the baton and swings it back and just knocks her upside the head like three good times and then the girl like um who gets hit goes off to the side.
Speaker 1:I've been looking at this video from every single angle. I could find it. At first I thought she definitely beat her upside the head. I was like I was like I was like that is crazy. But then I started looking at it more and then I was like, did her braid get like stuck on the baton the girl that she hit? And then she was like trying to pull it off. And then I saw more videos and I was like no, but. But then I saw one today and then I was and I was like no, but then I saw one today and then I was. It changed my opinion again. So now I'm kind of thinking that she did not purposefully beat that girl upside the head, cause she said that the girl was in front.
Speaker 2:I have what she said, okay.
Speaker 1:So let's play it as feelings.
Speaker 6:So you're physically hurt, but you're not thinking of my mental right. They're going off of one angle. There are a couple sides to it.
Speaker 2:Did you hear that?
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I'm going to play that one more time.
Speaker 1:Just let it play Thinking of my mental right.
Speaker 6:They're going off of one angle. There are a couple sides to it. My baton got stuck behind her back like this and it rolled up her back. I lost my balance and when I pumped my arms again she got hit. I know my intentions and I would never hit somebody on purpose. They're assuming my character, calling me ghetto, racist slurs, death threats all of this just because of a nine second video.
Speaker 1:In the video I saw today she was explaining it again and she says the girl was in front of her and when she was running her arm kept like hitting the baton. So she says that like I don't know how, but she tried to like pull it back and then lost her balance and all that whatever that's in the.
Speaker 1:In the other videos it doesn't. It didn't look like the baton connected. It's just so confusing, because why would you just start beating this girl upside the head knowing that there are cameras all over the place and everyone can see you?
Speaker 2:cuz man, this little, this girl is capping. She was in the heat of the moment. She turned into tanya harding and started whacking on this girl's head, yo like I don't understand why we trying to act like anything else. You see the fact that her smoke alarm going off. This girl is out here going.
Speaker 1:She's aggressive what does her smoke alarm have to do with her temperament? That has nothing.
Speaker 2:Niggas who can't change the smoke the niggas who can't change the smoke alarm battery. They got it.
Speaker 1:They got short temper as a teenage high school girl you think she's in charge of and that ain't no excuse.
Speaker 2:Yo, then we don't need to be talking about track stars, and he's just some high school athletes yeah, they're just, they're just track that's even more reason why she probably did it. If she in high school, when you, when you, that young ill temperament, you, in the heat of the moment, this you and this girl battling for position. Come on, bro, she just lost her cool and whack shawty did you um?
Speaker 1:did you see anything that the other girl said? The girl that got hit, did she say anything?
Speaker 2:I haven't said honestly, I haven't seen anything from that girl yeah, I haven't seen anything from her either.
Speaker 1:Apparently she she's fine. She was in the hospital. She's probably out of the hospital by now. I hope she's good that's crazy. A fractured skull yeah, but obviously so. The baton hit her head. Are those batons, not plastic?
Speaker 2:no, they're usually like aluminum, but even in hollow, though they're hollow that's what I'm saying, like the fact that she hit her that hard. Come on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just so confused as to like how she fractured her skull with that.
Speaker 2:She hit this girl crazy hard, like she was swinging to hit this girl hard. She was trying and then you kind of see she really didn't even stop for real.
Speaker 1:No, she did it like three times and then she, she kept running yeah, like she stopped, she slowed down and then she kept running yeah, and the girl who got hit stopped running I mean, she was concussed like she was out of it young.
Speaker 2:It's not funny, no, but I I hate just that being the example that's getting pushed around, because you know, the racist trolls are going crazy with this like she did like she spoke to, that that you're going to get the you were, were violent, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2:But I can understand that when you get into this competitive mode you kind of lose track of who you are. That's just kind of what competing does to you. Maybe man, she lost, she got out of her body and she whacked Shadi. We need to find out if there's like something you know these girls maybe had some beef beforehand. Maybe Shadi, like you know, they was sharing the same dude.
Speaker 1:No, she was beating that girl in the back of the head with that. Yeah, she was trying to whoop her ass. Every time I watch this video, I have a different opinion.
Speaker 2:She's trying to whoop that girl's ass Like it's so crazy. She beating her like she stole something, like she cocked it back all the way behind her head and then went tap the right on her shit, the crown of her shit too.
Speaker 1:I'm just like why, why, why, why track folks are like that.
Speaker 2:though I'm gonna be honest with you, track people are aggressive. You would think that a sport like that, that's contact, it wouldn't be too much like ego, but it's a lot like to kind of make that shit competitive honestly or to make that shit fun. You kind of got to have a big ego, you kind of got to be like track. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I come from people who are trapped Like you kind of got to have a big ego to perform at a high level with track because of the discipline it requires and you're doing so much for a small second of time, like, just think of a sprinter. You do years of training for what's going to be what a 10-second race.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's for just sprinters.
Speaker 2:I mean, other people are still a small Different distances. People are running miles in you five, four minutes, so I'm just saying that there's. They're in tractors more than sprinters and what I'm saying is that's a small amount of time for the years of training that you put into it. Your race is only what. The longest race is probably what 15, 16 minutes for a lot of people, the longest races if you're not counting long.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about, you know, cross country. I'm talking about track indoor so like most of them, or basically like two miles or whatever, be in track indoor, something like that. So yeah, even then that's still not super crazy.
Speaker 1:Let me tell y'all something about my lure. I did track for two days in high school. I did, and it wasn't even like official season because all of my friends were in track. So I just went to practice one day with them. This was like a couple weeks before the official season starts. So I'm warming up with them and I and I'm dying, I'm like about the warm-up I'm about to pass out. And then they're like okay, time to time to start workouts. I was like it's time to start workouts.
Speaker 2:Workouts haven't already started and then you got tired off the stretch.
Speaker 1:It wasn't. Come on, it wasn't a stretch. And then the next day we're like doing the like little sprints and shit, and then the coach was like you're not that fast, we're probably going to put you in like long distance. I never went back.
Speaker 2:That's a shame too, because you have a sprinter's body Like you, just don't have the fast twitch muscles.
Speaker 1:No, I haven't used my muscles you might have. We're talking about you in high school at this time they still develop it, but you probably have the fast twitch muscles muscles, but you just didn't develop them let me tell you, there was this one time I was playing football at a, at a cookout, and I almost got a touchdown, and I was playing with men oh, I'm sure they wasn't letting you just okay, and but the the thing is, I didn't catch it.
Speaker 2:I don't think I caught it. They just handed it off to you and let you move. I don't even understand.
Speaker 1:I don't remember how I got the ball. Honestly, I don't think I caught it. I might have, but I'm not even going to give myself that much credit but I accidentally ran out of bounds with it.
Speaker 2:I was mad, as hell. I was mad. I was like you thought you was doing something. You thought you was doing something. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:One of the guys on my team was like fuck if you just went this way.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever seen you actually run before.
Speaker 1:No, I don't do that.
Speaker 2:Like ever, like I haven't seen, like even like hurry to try to like get me something, to pass me something.
Speaker 1:No listen, no listen. When I used to live in new york and I used to miss the train or the like, I used to watch the train. I'm not running. You know how embarrassing that is to run you just never care about where you're going to run with urgency?
Speaker 2:ew, no, absolutely not I'd rather just be late, as she says this in a pseudo track suit I'm never working out in this.
Speaker 1:It's never seeing the gym it might it's just aesthetics.
Speaker 2:It might.
Speaker 1:I started doing a little, a little, one, two, a little workout once in a while all right, uh, let's.
Speaker 2:You want to get into your girl dochi sure do you want to wake it up? Rhetoric hates dochi. That's not true he her.
Speaker 1:He hates that she's a dark-skinned woman who is successful in the music industry. He doesn't understand why this dark, blackity, black bitch is a star now, none of that I've ever said out of my mouth. That's exactly how he feels. That's how you interpret how I feel.
Speaker 2:You just want to project everybody else's hate towards this woman and you want to just put it to me, because I'm just not, I don't get it let's talk about doji, though.
Speaker 1:So what's your? What's your deal?
Speaker 2:so I think we should just first announce the billboard woman of the year. Congratulations to that yeah.
Speaker 1:So she got billboard woman of the year this year and then last year she got like the rising star award. So oh no, two years ago she got the like rising star award at billboard. So two years later her getting woman of the year makes sense tracks.
Speaker 2:She did the work, I mean if you look at it, people have been saying what she's been out since like 2015 yeah I mean, it's been what? 10 years now. So I mean it makes sense that she would be.
Speaker 1:She's been grinding for a while now she used to consistently upload on youtube um. I remember during the pandemic she used to do a freestyle a day on tiktok um and upload that she used to like she was very, extremely consistent. There was this one series she did where she um on youtube. She read like the artist way and then she followed that book in the guideline and she did all those things and then obviously it worked for her.
Speaker 1:So whenever, when I see this this whole thing about Dochi being an industry plant and she just popped up out of nowhere every artist I'm not going to say every artist, but most artists you were not with them from the inception of what they were doing. Every artist you were not with them from the inception of what they were doing. Every artist has fans that were with them from the beginning. That can speak to the hard work and the dedication and the consistency that this artist has been putting in. For however long they've been putting it in, just because you just now figured out about this person doesn't mean that they don't have a decade of work behind them that got them to where they're at now. So I think that's really fucking weird when people say that in the first place, like she just got here and she didn't do anything to get here before I will say this sizzle won it in 2023.
Speaker 2:Man seems like TDE has maybe some connections inside of it.
Speaker 1:TDE has an amazing roster, like that's literally it Ab-Soul, schoolboy, j-rock Kendrick I don't know, is Kendrick still technically on TDE? I don't know SZA Dochi, isaiah Rashad Like it's an amazing roster full of actually talented artists who give a damn about their own artistry. So the whole TDE thing. It's because everyone on there is genuinely talented.
Speaker 2:So let's go down the list of the women of the year since 2009. So Beyonce was 2009. Fergie 2010. Taylor Swift 2011. Year from since 2009. So beyonce was 2009, fergie 2010. Taylor swift 2011. Katie perry, my girl. 2012, that was a good year. Pink 2013, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:2013 pink no, but that's when she was, um, flying around at every award show she was doing the. She was literally flying around at every award show she was doing the. She was literally flying around at every show. I think that's around that time and she had just dropped the album and she was putting on crazy shows 2014, taylor Swift, again 2015, Lady Gaga. So far only one black woman Beyonce 2016,.
Speaker 2:Madonna 2017, Selena Gomez 2018. Ariana grande 2019. Billy eilish 2020. Cardi b finally another black so 21 wasn't there, I guess because of covid or whatever, probably probably 2022, olivia rodrigo, 2023 sisa, and last year it was carol g okay so I mean I'm she kind of fits in that group yeah, she does like, especially when you kind of take into context where everybody was at their particular career and the fact that taylor swift got two is kind of that's kind of lit.
Speaker 1:But taylor swift is. She dominates.
Speaker 2:She has her foot on everybody's neck, it's, she's an anomaly so let's get into what the the other controversy with doji was going on.
Speaker 2:So she did an interview recently where um she was asked what is a red flag in dating and she said straight men and you know it was funny because everyone's criticism of her were like saying she's ugly and she's like a man and all this other stuff and I'm like, well then, why do you care if she don't want straight man? If you think she look ugly and I think she's a very stunning looking lady, looking, looking lady but I don't understand why, if you think she's not attractive, that then you care, yeah, that she doesn't want men that was straight men.
Speaker 1:That was the weird thing to me because straight men do not want to not be the object of desire. Call back to what I said before men being bad bitches. Now, like men want to feel like they get a prize. They want to feel like oh, if you and I feel like men are offended, if you won't, if you don't want them and that is a very real thing you reject the man and he gets offended immediately.
Speaker 2:Okay. So yeah, it was a hot ones interview, so here it is right here.
Speaker 1:What's my biggest dating red flag? Is it being on the?
Speaker 6:DL, you're on the right track. I have my answer.
Speaker 1:Is it close enough, are you? You want to guess one more time? What would be a red flag for me? Bad music taste. Oh, that is a good one, because that's one for me that is a good one.
Speaker 7:What do you mean? You don't listen to Michael.
Speaker 1:Jackson, but okay, okay, this is a huge red flag for me, all right.
Speaker 7:You know what's so crazy? I was going to say men, I was going to say women. I mean strike one, you're a man, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is the thing, okay, so with these bell hooking type women and this is. I'm just telling you that's what she is, she. She has a photo where she is promoting the bell hooks, these bell hooking and tight women. They get into these positions and the people of yesteryear understood when you did certain things like this I'm about to get a tattoo of bell hooks on my back, so you can nut on it, so you have to look at it while you while you
Speaker 2:so, like I said back to these bell hooky and women, so the thing about this is she says this. They, like I said, the people of yesteryear understood when you did interviews like this, it was to make you endearing to the people that makes you endearing to me yeah, and that's not the people, though you. You isolate so many people, so many potential fan bases again so many potential fan bases.
Speaker 2:When you do this, usually on there, you say something like oh, they don't smell good. Or like, like she said, taste and muse. You try to do something. Yeah, but you're doing something to relate to the listener.
Speaker 1:Nobody wants to relate to straight men.
Speaker 2:That's not the point. You want their money. You want straight men's money, straight men are not paying for things. And when you say you're my red flag as far as music and concerts go, course that's not going to help in that uh statement either the girls and the gays and, like I said here, funding the thing.
Speaker 2:The bigger problem with this is is that, like I said, these bell hooky and women. One of bell hooks biggest criticisms is the fact that she engaged in a certain level of capitalism when she was anti-capitalist and what it is. What do you get? A lot of these women who spout off her book notes and they say all of her quotes and things that nature. But what you understand is, y'all don't see yourself as a part of what's going on as well. You don't see that your actions also play a part, and then that you have no accountability in these situations as well. So you will say these things like this you're a bell hookian woman, right?
Speaker 2:Bell hooks last criticism before she died was on who beyonce she criticized. She criticized beyonce for the type of feminism that she was spreading. That was an over-sexualized version. What does dochi do on her last award show? Only one naked on stage. So yeah, you're, you're really living up to this person. Oh, yeah, see, this is what I'm saying, but this is the example what I'm talking about when you have to put their feet to the fire.
Speaker 2:Now it's huffing and puffing bro, they were playing a fun game and then you literally back flipped into feminism no, I'm criticizing what's going on there, because these things I just told you, these things are used to gather, get more fans and then, when you do something like that, to isolate people, now you're all. This conversation is negative about her, instead of it being something that was growing her fan base the conversation was gonna be negative about her, regardless, because people don't want to like her.
Speaker 1:She's a dark-skinned woman who's who's gaining success. They're gonna shit on her, regardless of what she says. If she got up there and she was like I don't like baggy jeans, as that's a red flag, niggas would be upset. I don't like tight jeans niggas will be upset. I don't like. I don't like uh uh niggas who sleep on their left side. Niggas would have been upset, of course.
Speaker 2:No one's saying that no one's going to be upset.
Speaker 1:You might as well isolate the straight men, because the girls and the gays are the ones who are supporting you in the first goddamn place.
Speaker 2:And we're talking about mitigating the risk Just because those are the people who are supporting you, aren't the people who your investors think are going to support you when they want that album to sell certain amount of numbers. And that's all I'm saying is, when you have these folks who identify with a lot of these principles, they don't see that their actions also come into the criticism, especially when they're mainstream. So, yes, people are going to look at you and say, hey, you're promoting bell hooks, but then you got your ass on stage shaking all around when that was antithetical to what bell hooks was preaching women are not a black.
Speaker 1:Women are not a monolith. You don't have to fit in one box. You can believe in bell hooks and you can spew that all you want, and then you can own your sexuality, especially if you're an artist.
Speaker 1:Only your hypocrisy and and you can own your sexuality and go up there in a little tom brown two-piece which is what she did and look good as fuck like I don't know why. You have to do only one thing if she, she either only has to be a whore or she only can can quote bell hooks once in a while like she has to choose what I'm saying, why can't she do both?
Speaker 2:because? Because they're antithetical to each other. They are, they are.
Speaker 1:I don't think they are.
Speaker 2:I just literally explained how they were.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 2:So you're disagreeing with the factual information.
Speaker 1:It's not factual information.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you what bell hooks said.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about what are you saying she can believe in that?
Speaker 2:and then, and then, um, take the pieces, the pieces that she wants from it, apply it to whatever she wants to apply it to and be whoever the fuck she wants to be and that also comes with a level of criticism in regards to the hypocrisy that comes with that, because when you're criticizing certain elements and then you actively put yourself in those positions and then you benefit in those positions uh, you benefit when you put yourself there I want to see when she quoted bell hooks.
Speaker 2:In the first there's a literal book with her showing the book in her face like she's like yeah, but I want to see the context of what she was saying, because I have never seen this video. It wasn't saying it was just a selfie, whatever, before it was a selfie it was just a selfie with her, yeah, with the bell, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:This is so stupid. How's that stupid? Because she's never even said anything about the woman or her content she literally just held up. We don't even know if she actually read it and again. My criticism has all been through the main point of bell hooky and women and what they're even know if she's actually that, though, because you also admitting, you've also admitted that you don't know don't she, you don't watch her interviews, you don't know her personality you're right and you don't know her artistry and I've explained.
Speaker 2:I was going to explain to why, remember, I've been saying there's issues, why she has been somebody, what I don't understand, why I don't want to consume her content, and that was what I've been realizing as I've been seeing more information, trying to consume more information. These were things that I found.
Speaker 1:It was like okay, that makes sense to me I think your point is convoluted and you're, you're, you're, um, working really hard to find a reason when it's just she, blackity, black, and you don't like her it has nothing to do with that I'm kidding I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, but I feel like you're really like. You're really trying so hard to make a reason and it doesn't.
Speaker 2:It's not you, you didn't eat and it's not hitting the way you thought it was hitting and that's what I have to say about it and honestly, that just proves my bigger point, where when the light comes to you and the shine comes on to that particular group, it never wants to now play out the same way that your criticism does for other people, when we're keeping it in just your words, like we're just saying, like what you've advocated for what are you talking about what?
Speaker 1:what other people have I advocated for that? I'm not equating or not, but you said on the show that you would do that.
Speaker 2:If it's a woman, you're going to lean more to that woman's side yeah, because fuck men. Okay then.
Speaker 1:So that's my point is there's a lack of accountability when you do that okay, well, yeah, obviously there's always going to be a lack of, but you're not the bell hooky, and women that I'm describing I'm talking about bell hooky and women in general, and she, to me, plays a personification of that. I don't think that's crazy to assume, especially when she shows the book no, I think it is crazy to assume because all you have is her in a picture of a book like that is crazy to assume that's what that.
Speaker 2:Do you advocate for somebody when they're it's a radical feminist book that promotes black women? She's been, uh, advocate of promoting black women's success and things of that nature. You don't think that those two things kind of correlate in any kind of what capacity?
Speaker 1:it's not that crazy. I'll take that back. But I think the the fucking point. You took it and you not only ran with it, but you beat her in the back of the head with a baton with it that's not what I did.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's what you did. I feel like my criticisms is fair on that.
Speaker 3:Okay, I think so you think we're not gonna keep going, because, do you think this?
Speaker 2:has been deserving everything that she's doing. You think, just wait, did she handle the interview? All of that is a way to profit more, to wait to grow the brand more. That's what.
Speaker 1:That's my thing I think with her fan base, that it was funny she had. Her fan base is the girls and the gays and I respect that.
Speaker 2:But my question goes to growing that base. Do you think that helped to grow that base?
Speaker 1:so if outside of girls and gays probably not too much, okay, but I don't think that her fan base was going to grow that much outside of that in the first place you don't think that showing some type of not aggressiveness towards that group would have been a better no choice, I think that her music and her content is not geared towards straight men.
Speaker 1:So then when she's trying to, when she's on press tours and stuff like that, then she's not going to be concerned with trying to get straight men to be part of her fan base see, I just think that becomes social media fodder more than it does like substantial I wish I had like the that's what it just feels like.
Speaker 1:That's on, like who spends more on music and shit? Because if we had those stats, because I believe it is like buying concert tickets and stuff like that, all that like it's more it's women who are doing buying merch white people.
Speaker 2:I mean women and women white people.
Speaker 1:Yeah so if she, if she, had said white men as a red flag, then that probably would have done more to isolate a fan base that she wants. But you still have white women and what the white gays that you can get. So I don't. I don't think that she's isolating or um limiting her reach at all. I thought it was a funny haha. It obviously went viral. It did what? Because if she said not the same music taste as me, then we would not have seen this video, point blank period. It would not have reached anybody, it would have just fell on deaf ears and she would have gotten zero more listeners but, she said the funny haha.
Speaker 1:And now, whoever thought that was funny is now maybe inching more towards her fan base let me ask you one more question.
Speaker 2:Do you think the lady who her first answer that was dumb as fuck, because how would you know somebody's dl if they're dl? Because of her song deniers of river yeah, I know that, but I'm saying to say that's a red flag when, when dating somebody or meeting somebody, if somebody was to come up to you, the way she explained like, oh, I'm a straight man who comes up to you says, hey, I'm dl. Like dl is something you find out after the, the negative action, or the cheating has occurred.
Speaker 2:But I just thought that was a stupid answer.
Speaker 1:DL. Men are a wreck flag, though, but you would never know that until after you've been exposed, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like that's just a cheating man at that point. Yeah, all right. So last thing before we end, on Dolce, I do want to say shout out to the she bringing back the cooch lip. I'm really excited about that. So I don't know where she was at.
Speaker 1:She looked stunning though she was the paris fashion week.
Speaker 2:I think it was a scaparelli show, so yeah, she went up there and that she had that little beaver elbow, that she was all right I had to watch that several times she had some. It was a little bit of bush there.
Speaker 1:I ain't mad at it it was a gown, okay, so the gown is long, flowy right and there's a slit literally right in the middle. And she, I still would like to think because it was such a like split second, I still would like to think that she had like some nude panties on or something like that no but it looked like that she just had no panties on whatsoever under a dress that had a full slit up to above your vagina.
Speaker 2:Yo, these girls got the beaver out. It's out. There's no hiding it.
Speaker 1:Because Cardi.
Speaker 2:That happened. The same thing with Cardi too.
Speaker 1:Same thing happened to Cardi. It looked like she was being carried out the club drunk as shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this one I seen. Her dress was just up and the cooter was full beaver Lips out. That monkey was monkeying. I ain't going to lie to you.
Speaker 1:Like if you zoom in you can see her clitoris. That's really like.
Speaker 2:I don't want to get colorist allegations, but I do want to compare clit shots. Okay, I do want to, you know, just kind of get an idea of you know maybe, who did it the best, who showed the clit off better. It's a hundred percent okay so it was to me. You got a better look at cardi's and cardi got that moose knuckle.
Speaker 1:That shit was she got a that, that, that shit like it was a big old beaver on her she got the claw on her.
Speaker 2:She look like it's gonna grab you up that's why offset is over here, just ah but?
Speaker 2:but I will say don't you look like she got that pincher, like that thing gonna come get you right up. So the right now, what I'll do is watch the show. Right now, the grippy award award is gonna go to uh cardi. Right now grippy that's go. That's what we're gonna give it to right now. Cardi got the grippy award, but that's, I believe it's because we could see more of it yeah like her whole pelvis was out whole ass vagina but I appreciate it, man, it's 2008 again 2006 frontal vagina.
Speaker 1:I was genuinely shocked at just how clear as day her pussy was out.
Speaker 2:I appreciate us bringing back the clit shots. Man with the white girls used to do a paris hilton, lindsey lohan they used to make sure they pulled up.
Speaker 1:No draws pussy out and I'm glad that there's a certain way that you need to get out the car.
Speaker 2:That's because back in the day it was always the getting out the car shot, the low sports car.
Speaker 1:If you know that you don't have panties on, then why do you not swing both? Your legs out at once, Girl, why would you put one leg out vagina out to the world, and then the other leg?
Speaker 2:Because that's how you got on the cover of the magazine in the morning. So I was never mad at it during them days. I ain't mad at it now. Shout out to these girls now we get better looks. See, we just getting just nipples for a long time because I remember jt. She just gave us a little bit of nipple action and she and I think luna gave us a little bit of nip action too. So and and sexy red, so yeah, now now we're getting full.
Speaker 1:We've been full, camel toe I thought we got cardi's full nipples, though oh, cardi didn't got well, she was a stripper.
Speaker 2:We even got her ass naked so oh, yeah, yeah, yeah but seeing it post all the work and whatnot still look like it's a stripper it's intact, everything look like it's still good. So shout out to y'all ladies man, uh, we got to get into the get the, the queer baiting it's been going on it's going on. I believe there's some allegations of queer baiting in the wmba. Okay, we gotta break it up.
Speaker 1:Are you, are you?
Speaker 2:familiar with dejanay carrollton absolutely not. She's in the wmba remember when we was talking about the girls who dated each other and were they still played in the league with each other, and you said that was hot oh, the one that was like she should finger her on the court.
Speaker 1:That's not what I said can they just play ball?
Speaker 2:no so she was boring she was on angel reese podcast and you know this is the off season for the wmba, so all of them are on a podcast, all of them being messy and doing all the tea. But she had this to say and I thought it was pretty interesting and I have some some greater thoughts about it. We can get into it.
Speaker 6:No.
Speaker 2:I'm not even like into girls. You're a Nelissa, yeah, oh period.
Speaker 6:Yeah no, do guys still like try to slide in your DMs? Of course they tell me it's a waste. Like you know, you're too pretty. It's a waste to be. You know what I mean. Like whatever. You're too pretty to be. Yeah, I'm like, even if I wasn't, it wouldn't be you, it wouldn't be you, sir, ever. So is she gay? But I don't even like, I don't be like, oh, I'm gay, I'm gay, Like I'm not gay, I just like Liz, you know, oh, period, that's what she. I'm so serious she's 90, but she likes Liz, I am.
Speaker 6:I am Because I'm with Liz, so Liz will never have to worry About you going with another girl. No, yeah, never. She ain't gotta worry about the girls, no no, or the guys but. No, look, she's trying to get me in trouble.
Speaker 7:No, no no, no, no no.
Speaker 6:I don't want you in no trouble. If she's loyal, she loves you, she's in love with you. When'd you guys start dating, though?
Speaker 2:um, because I felt like we're in the season so this to me this feels a little bit because I remember hearing about this like in college and stuff where, like the studs will say, the girl was like queer baiting or she was just playing gay but she really wasn't really about that action or she just wanted to get her pussy ate by a stud. That's what this feels like. It feel like because I was reading some stuff too. They were saying, like shawty be cashing out on her, like she'd be spending like big racks on her and all that other stuff, and it seems like in the gay community it looks like she's getting played it's what I want to tell y'all, because, but I can't, I can't cut this out real quick.
Speaker 1:You remember from loving hip-hop she dating a stud. She'd be coming in there falling buying her bags and bags and bags. I'm like bitch, are you not a straight woman? Like I've never come across anything about that. Continue. So you just bleep her name out if you want, okay, but no.
Speaker 2:Uh, my question is is do we see this? Before we get into my bigger question do you see this as just like normal queer bait and stuff? Do you feel like this is normal for people to be able to say like, hey, I like this partner, but not actually being labeled as this, because to me this feels like a little bit self-hate no um, do you know what pansexuality is?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's literally the definition of pansexuality.
Speaker 2:You think that's what she's communicating. She didn't explain this.
Speaker 1:She might not know because a lot of people don't know what that is like other than the, your regular lg, lgbtq. Not even Like people don't even know what the IA is for. So, like I don't think she she might not know, even though she, um, she uh, identifies with the gay community, she probably doesn't fully know all the ins and outs of it and does not know that there is a label for what she is experiencing. Like you like this person because it's this person. You're a pansexual. Very simply put, like you like her because of her personality, of what makes her hurt, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2:That's. That's exactly what that is. It don't sound like she gonna run from the dick, though like that's not the way that, the way that she explained it. It just seemed like the the dick that's coming for her is dick she don't want, but it don't seem like she running from the dick it's just like she's not she.
Speaker 1:The people that she wants are the people that she wants it doesn't matter what genitalia they have. So she's not running from the dick because there are guys that she don't want, like she don't. She don't want them niggas. I just think it don't matter what they got between them legs. She don't want you because you're not lex. Lex is what I like.
Speaker 2:She's a lex sexual, like you know I'm gonna be honest, I feel like this kind of goes to just my bigger conspiracy I've been having, because shakari richardson recently came out and said she has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1:Now I know she historically she has been bisexual that is half of the the equation yeah, that that's a possibility that she could be with a man and a lot of bisexual women be ended up with men and I'm gonna tell you why it's just easier?
Speaker 2:I don't think it's just easier. I think it's more yeah I think there's a position you can get where there's more benefits I think a lot of bisexual men end up with women too, because it's just I think there's benefit.
Speaker 2:I don't I don't know about that, but I think there's, because I think a lot of women have. They get a little turned off when they find out you're bisexual. The dude's touching men that way. So I think that that doesn't really transition the same way that you're speaking about, but I do think that we are in an era there are a lot of women who are also other bisexual women too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, salute, but I think there's a lot of. I think, in the era that we are now, who we have in office, where we see the tide kind of shifting, I think a lot of people find it easier to just kind of go with what the, the flow is, of the, of the, the air, of the air that we're in, the fact that we're leaning so much more right with stuff. They have a lot more criticisms and people on the right have been vocalized more, I think. I think people are doing I think they see that's where the money is and so that's where I'm going to perform now, because you, taking the consideration, you've seen that happen with shawty in the uk right, who owned a gym and her gym was supposed to be open for gendered women and that was including cis and transgender women. Now she's coming out and said oh no, my gym is now just for cisgender women, biological women I thought it was the opposite.
Speaker 2:I thought they found tweets saying that it was only for women, and now she's saying that it's for all, all women you know it was originally when she opened it it was supposed to be for cis and transgender women and the tweets were saying that. And then she most recently came out with a video saying, no, my video, I mean my gym, is just for women who?
Speaker 2:are cisgender women, yeah she didn't say that because you know that feels like you're losing when you use that terminology for them. But she was just basically biological women. But that's what I'm saying. They don't understand the intricacies of like sex and biology, so they just say these words not actually knowing what they mean. So that's why I mean it's just it's. It seems now it's beneficial financially to be a bigot in a way it definitely is.
Speaker 2:It has been for a while, though like I feel like if we came on here and act like we would smag of people and we sucked like elon's dick and all that other shit, we would already be making so much money. Yeah, we would be like out of here, but I think, because of the opinions that we do have, that and we're both people with morals.
Speaker 1:We're not going to just like spew anything. That's not that's outside of our viewpoint, I would not be able to sleep.
Speaker 2:But I think there's a lot of people that are doing that now. I think there's a lot of folks who are doing the Bruce Jenner shit, like Caitlyn Jenner shit, where I'm gonna be on the other side, but then I'm gonna be right wing with it you know what the thing is with that.
Speaker 1:That bitch is so stupid that it makes me purposefully want to misgender and disrespect her, but that will disrespect all of the other trans people that I actually respect. So I have never purposefully misgendered Caitlyn Jenner, even though I think that bitch is stupid.
Speaker 2:I think that's a dumb bitch I just think more people are just looking into that as being more lucrative and I. It's unfortunate, but we even spoke to this when we talked about jess hilarious, because we said when she was doing her shit, we were surprised even though we probably shouldn't be because it's fox, but we were surprised that that happened yeah, because of of how much friction she's had with the lgbtq community.
Speaker 1:Like she, she's someone who I think is generally seen as a bigot now I mean in that community, for sure yeah, in in that community. So I I was really surprised that they gave her that, because she comes with so much baggage and controversy but I think we're in an era now where that controversy is being more accepted.
Speaker 2:People aren't even listening, like even when you look at our comments. When we talk about step anti to the right, people don't even listen to what we're saying. It just becomes a liberal talking point to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Even though, like, we'll have articles and officials making statements about certain things when they hear that it's a war against us and them and not intelligence leading our decisions and not just like a conversation and like empathy is not leading anymore no because, again, like folks, will get mad about this transgender shit and what you identify as, but it's like, at the end of the day, most nine times I'd say none of this shit is really affecting you and if someone asks you to call them something, it's not hard to do. It doesn't destroy your day, it doesn't take you out of this world, doesn't make you oh I'm not living your delusion.
Speaker 1:No, we live in everyone's delusion every day you live in every single person's parents delusion because somebody named the person. Yeah, like everyone who has a nickname. Everyone's like oh, I'm my name is this, but I go by like it's the. It's not the exact same shit as far as like you're not, we're not trying to um wait, like minimize the trans experience and like what you feel inside. As far as like gender, we're trying to minimize other people's reactions to just simply changing a pronoun or just we're trying to minimize other people's reactions?
Speaker 2:yeah, so just simply changing a pronoun or just we're just trying to simplify the understanding of what's going on? Because at the end of the day, you have to communicate to the people who's listening, not necessarily the person who's speaking, because they know what they're trying to say yeah you got to be able to make sure the people that are listening knows what the what they need to get out of it.
Speaker 2:But I just think it sucks because it shows a lot of people just don't have character anymore, like they don't have it, they don't really stand on it, like a lot of y'all were just doing this because y'all were scared or y'all wanted to get a bag and y'all y'all really are assholes and clowns and I think that that needs to be said more. I think we want to, on our end, try to make sure we kind of expose that and you know shit on those people more.
Speaker 2:I think that would be a good good for us good content for us, because I think that's where we have to kind of go with it. We have to, like, challenge the people making these uh bullshit claims and kind of just weather the storm of the idiot supporters, and I think that's going to take us far in the long run because it's always. It will always correct back to what the shit we're saying, because our shit is based in like reality and it's not based in us just making up or reacting to buzzwords.
Speaker 2:So, uh, gene hackman man, have you seen all the stuff that's come out about that? So you know who. That is the actor that got found dead with his wife. You don't know who gene hackman is. The nigga was lex luther.
Speaker 1:Nigga did some dope movies I don't be knowing these white people by name and then he does this like all the time. He just be saying a random white name and then be like you don't know who that is.
Speaker 2:These be legit whites though I'm not bringing up like I'm not pulling whites out my ass you know what I'm very proud of, honestly you don't feel like there's any legit white no, you can say like a obscure black actor's name and I'll know who that is.
Speaker 1:But you can say like a a-list white actor's name and I will not know who that is. And I am proud actually of that because I go out of my way to consume black media.
Speaker 2:Um, gene hackman so just so I'll just give a little bit of breakdown. So gene hackman was found dead with his wife in their, I believe, new mexico home. Yeah, so the they were actually found by people who were doing like contract work. They did the autopsy and it recently just came out. So everybody was speculating about what was going on because it was gene was dead, his wife was dead and one of their dogs was dead and one of the things they also pointed out was dead his wife was dead and one of their dogs was dead, and one of the things they also pointed out was that the wife was decaying way more than he was?
Speaker 1:this?
Speaker 2:man was old as dirt, he was like 92, like three so after the autopsy has come to find out that she died from like a virus that People get from like Rat shit it's like it gets into your food or whatever like that. So she died from this Like respiratory virus Apparently. She dies and then Seven days later he dies. So he was in the house With her Right, he's like 92, see now probably he's just in the house with her for a whole week and eventually dies as well if he's 92 and senile and doesn't realize that his wife is dead in the house?
Speaker 1:would there not be a caregiver somewhere on the premises or that visits regularly?
Speaker 2:I would think she would be the carrier, but she's significantly younger than him. She's like 30 years younger than him.
Speaker 1:She's 60 why would I think that this man was with somebody? His yeah, like my bad if you're rich.
Speaker 2:What am I gonna be with an old broad for? That's useless I need. If I'm getting money, I need to get me something a little bit younger on the scale you dig. But this is what I'm thinking. I'm like does he have kids? Yeah, so these niggas ain't called for a whole week, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Everybody doesn't have the same relationship with their parents. But a week I go more than a week without talking to my father. That's insane. It's not that insane.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is. You should, at least you should talk to your parents at least once. If y'all don't have any bad blood or there's like no beef between y'all, y'all should speak at least once, one time a week, even if it's due through text message I go I'll talk to my dad once a month sometimes I'm just saying when you're an older parent and it's not.
Speaker 1:I love him. He's my nigga. He's a great dad. That's just the nigga. Don't call me. I don't really call him.
Speaker 2:That's just not the type of people we are what I'm saying is when you have a parent, 90 some years old old nigga, you know the dust coming soon. You should at least be checking once a week if my dad is 92, I'm calling him at least every other day though I can imagine that nigga wasn't taking none of his medicine, because she probably was the one giving him his medicine, so when she died, his heart just failed out because he wasn't taking his medicines because, that's what they say.
Speaker 1:He died from heart disease okay, so she probably passed away, and then he just was like I'm not, I'm not capable of keeping myself alive anymore they still ain't figured out the dog yet. Those coming soon would kill the dog because they had another.
Speaker 2:They had two dogs that were so apparently this was the weird thing. Right, there was a dog in the crate. That dog died. The dog outside of the crate was in the room with her body while it was decaying so that's crazy.
Speaker 1:It makes sense that the dog in the crate died because he couldn't walk around and like that's not. I mean the garbage and get something to eat or drink out of the bowl or whatever yeah, I guess that could happen slowly died in the crate we don't know, we don't know when, how he died yet. So if you don't, feed the dog for a week. Maybe the dog had medication they had to take too that could be true we don't know that's a that's a crazy way to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they were actually saying when they were breaking down because I was reading an article about like they were finding like her whereabouts, because you know, she's the only one really moving around like that. So when they were breaking down her whereabouts and I believe she did take that dog to the vet I don't know if it was for a routine checkup, they didn't confirm that but they were saying that she did go that was in a house. You usually think it's going to be carbon monoxide, like a gas leak or something I immediately my brain murder suicide but but that's but.
Speaker 2:That usually comes with the idea that there's like physical evidence, yeah, like the bodies have been brutalized or something. These folks, that's not what happened. They was just. She was just decayed as fuck and he was just dead as fuck. Well, I'm just glad it wasn't nothing sinister, because that would have been awful, because you can't kill lex luther dog, that's my nigga obviously you can. He dead well he, nobody killed him, he died. There's a difference no yeah, oh yeah, he just died from not being taken care of that's fucked up.
Speaker 2:We shouldn't be laughing at that. No, it's not funny RIP to Gene Hackman though.
Speaker 1:RIP white man.
Speaker 2:So your boy's been doing a press tour. I know you haven't been feeling really good about this. He's not your favorite person at all. Andrew Schultz was just recently on shannon shart's podcast. He's been on breakfast club wwe. Like I said, he's promoting his netflix special and I think do people do that now, where they promote the special after it comes out like is that a normal? Is that a normal thing regarding comedy?
Speaker 1:because not for comedy specifically.
Speaker 2:I don't know because I know generally it used to be, you promoted the movie before it came out or whatever the product was before. But I've seen him do it afterwards a few different times. I know it's probably more to do with the fact that he's so more hands-on, probably, with his product so you can't really promote it while you're doing all the other stuff because you got to make, you know, decisions on the cuts and things like that. But I just think that's an interesting um way to do it. But in light of his criticism with kendrick lamar and shits and gigs podcast, do you think it's kind of weird that black media and we can exclude the breakfast club because charlamagne's his man? Do you think it's weird to see some elements of black media kind of bring him into the fold like that?
Speaker 1:Especially Shane. I think Shannon is setting himself up to just be messy, so yeah, this fits with within, like the prototype that he's trying to do for his show, because schultz has had a couple viral moments as of late yeah he just had amber rose on there, so I feel like this falls within that like wheelhouse it's. It's not too crazy to me what other black media outlets Charlemagne like he's a donkey, so like, of course, um, andrew went on Charlemagne's platform and I'm calling that Charlemagne's platform because it's his platform.
Speaker 2:I mean like they do a show together, so that's not out of the wheelhouse for them to do anything together. I just thought it was interesting because I watched the interview.
Speaker 2:So when I was watching the interview, it felt like he schultz, gives a really disingenuous interview in a way, because and I don't know, maybe it's because he's explaining jokes and that's where it makes it feel like it shouldn't be, this shouldn't be happening but it feels like yeah, because it feels like it's just so disingenuous when he a lot of the early conversations they were having, because what he'll do is he shows loves to do these this thing where he takes two concepts that are void of each other and try to compare them in a way like, so you did with, don't you no?
Speaker 2:I was actually very concise with my my criticism, but he'll do something like. So the conversation was about offending people with your jokes and he tried to compare that to Shannon having a criticism of somebody's play on the field. And I think it's very clear that those two things are not the same. Because one person you're taking a thought about a bias or stereotype about their people that may be offensive to them or may hold their people back because it's a general consensus about them and you're, you're playing into that. And the other person is just literally watching a game and being critical of the sport, like I'm not saying like you're, you couldn't make a play because you're white. I'm saying you just couldn't make the play. There's a difference between that.
Speaker 2:And to try to compare that, to try to find common ground, I get what he's trying to do because it ended up working like shannon fell hook line and seeker to what uh schultz was trying to do shannon is always gonna fall because, um, he was a football player, you know, not too smart but I mean it's not his fault, because andrew's true, the way that he operates, the way that he'll try to find common ground with you, because that's what I'm saying, like, even though I feel like it's a disingenuous comparison, it's not necessarily disingenuous when you're trying to find a connection with the person across from you, and when you do that it becomes.
Speaker 2:Now Schultz was interviewing Shannon. He's trying to talk about him and where he came from and how he felt people were where, probably talking about you, andrew be asking questions about you and you take over the interview. He does that a lot. He does that on his show, of course, because that's what you're supposed to do, but when you see him going, like Nelk Boys, he tries to do it with Joe Rogan, where he's trying to show like I'm in control of the room and I do that by breaking you down in a way that the audience can see after multiple playbacks, but in, in the real time, it probably doesn't feel like that I didn't really um listen to this interview but when we were I caught a little bit of it in the beginning.
Speaker 1:And, uh, he did that in the beginning of the interview like, uh, shannon is introducing him and then schultz, like changes, changes the topic, talking about that, the speech that Shannon gave, and talking about like how much that choked him up, and blah, blah, blah and he it was so emotional to watch Shannon do that and Shannon seems so full in his life and I was like he was just introducing you, like it's been less than two minutes into the interview yeah, he does that.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got to be full to give other stuff, like that's what I'm saying. That shit is so cheesy and it's just a way for like rich people to feel like.
Speaker 1:It gives me that same vibe, that like whenever Kevin tries to talk to people.
Speaker 2:Kevin Hart. Yeah, yeah. It's the same vibe. That's good. I like that.
Speaker 1:That's because Kevin. Hart was same thing whenever kevin tries to give a motivational speech, like I don't want to hear a motivational word come out of kevin's mouth ever again. It seems very disingenuous, calculated, hollow and yeah, just like you don't actually give a fuck, you just trying to have like another, um, what you gonna call it brunch moment, rock nation brunch moment. Like it's okay, we don't need to hear from you.
Speaker 2:It feels like too a lot of times from when I watch a lot of andrew's content like it's okay, we don't need to hear from you. It feels like too a lot of times, from when I watch a lot of andrew's content and it's somebody that he likes or respects, he tries to turn the conversation even on his own uh channel into like a circle jerk where it just becomes, like me, a complimenting fest. I've always told him what I respect about you and then they like he enjoys that amongst the people he sees as the elite and then it doesn't get anywhere. Because even this he wasn't just on black media.
Speaker 2:Like, say, he did joe rogan, he did megan kelly and just some of the stuff I feel like he advocates for in the law room is very like stupid, problematic shit. Like he was like supporting trump, talking about us annexing like greenland and canada. Like he felt like that was reinvigorating america and that's getting people in a way that they feel pumped and good to be an american. I'm like how do you feel good about being american when your president is talking about annexing a sovereign nation? Like that doesn't even make sense to me ah, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 1:How does that? How's?
Speaker 2:that a galvanizing force, like even with the whole he was playing into the gulf of america thing, and he really means this shit, like when he did the trump interview. Like he means this shit where he feels as though this is a galvanizing force to be an american and that we should be getting behind, and to me it just feels like you just want your taxes lower like that's what.
Speaker 1:The weird thing about that and that's I know that's not the point you're trying to make but the weird thing about that to me is the the people who are not like exactly pumped about being an american. Trump isn't gonna do it for them. Like, if you're not already like America, like Trump is not gonna be the person who's gonna make you proud to be an American. If anything, it's gonna do the complete opposite. The people who are already proud of being American, like this hasn't. This hasn't changed anything for them and it's so like and I get hit the bass.
Speaker 2:That hears that is not going to be as conscious as we are when we listen to that. But you're advocating you're a 40-year-old man advocating for what essentially would be warmongering, and those are going to be 22-year-old men, 30-year-old men who are going to die in that process that you will not have to feel Not at all. And then you act like that's something to get behind. Process that you will not have to feel not at all. And then you you act like that's something to get behind, like, granted, I know you can hide behind the old. He said he's going to do it economically and all that other stuff, but he's also heavily implied military force to that you know, potentially being used. It's just not, it's not smart, it's just not smart. I don't think that people with this kind of pushing to the right it's it feels so forced and fake, like beforehand when we had bush and stuff, people just supported the general concept of being. You know, this is your civic duty and to see where we okay with like the outright, like ass spreading of celebrity.
Speaker 2:No, it's insane like the way that we're so comfortable with celebrities and people like spreading their ass for even politicians at this point now it's insane. Like that's to me I didn't grow up like that like if somebody supported either party publicly. Like that you look like a doofus. And to see that people are so easily doing it now and it's not even something that they can commonly get behind, like who cares if we own greenland? But I I can see a lot of people caring if women have the right to have an abortion like that makes sense to me, yeah because they're a very what you would call like liberal country in general, like it's what I'm saying there's happy as shit.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is my point is, when they complain about the points of the left, the left will be like, hey, we want women to have safe and sometimes free and effective abortions. And it's like the right will be like, no, well, that's still greenland. Like what, why should we get behind still in a country, but not get behind making sure half of our citizens have access to a medical, like proper medical care?
Speaker 2:in regards to the reproductive organs, it's uh, I get it, I can see a little gas from it, but it's just. It just bothers me so much how people can get behind this instead of just wanting to do the work and being critical of the details, because again, I'm not saying democrats or people on the left like or perfect.
Speaker 2:And again, I'm not saying nobody's, nobody's but what I'm saying is there's makes sense to certain things to get behind, and I just don't see how these guys can justify themselves to get on trump's side like this, in that manner I think you're you're probably analyzing it from like a point of like being able to critically think I don't think they think outside of their tax bracket.
Speaker 1:No, so I don't it's.
Speaker 2:It's nothing other than like a very narrow viewpoint, and what fits in it fits in it, and what doesn't, doesn't, and that's it yeah, I just miss back when our comedians and stuff, they just shitted on everybody and they didn't feel like they had to pick a side, they didn't have to dance for you know a particular candidate and shit like that because schultz should be shitting all over Trump.
Speaker 1:He's a very easily shittable character, like he's hilarious, but for a comedian. But when you sold yourself to him, you can't you can't criticize him, you can't make jokes about him, you can't poke fun at him.
Speaker 2:Or if you do, you have to make it very clear that I'm playing and then if he gets offended, you're going to apologize. And I promise you, if he makes a joke about trump and trump feels some kind of way, we'll see him tuck his tail like he tells everybody else does.
Speaker 1:for the people they care about.
Speaker 1:He's been bent over already, so yeah, they put the lube on him maybe not they greased him up something nice, like they did druski apparently allegedly hit the nigga up with the druski is sick, all right. So, lil yadi man, I gotta play this lil yadi was on quinn blackwell, I think, her cooking show. Let's play it because I have, I have. I have a point that I wanted to make specifically, but we spent a hundred thousand dollars on a trip to Disney once. How much have you spent on charitable causes this year? Let's start cooking these pancakes.
Speaker 5:I mean, well, this year technically just started, so so this year, I mean, like it's hard to. What about last year? Well, last year, you know, it's like it's hard to gauge.
Speaker 6:All right, all right. So what about the year before last year?
Speaker 5:Oh, that year, that's a good year. It's just blurry. I be doing so much.
Speaker 1:BLM, since you want to be so black-powered.
Speaker 7:BLM is a scam. Clip that Send it to the fucking news, BLM.
Speaker 5:it was literally a scam. They had bought mansions and you probably wouldn't know anything about it. Because you don't care about black people, you don't follow black news.
Speaker 6:I do care about black people Look at my chocolate. You're mad. It's a disguise.
Speaker 1:You're mad. I think I'm literally the most pro-black.
Speaker 2:So I'm glad that he went this far into that Hold on.
Speaker 1:Before because the point I wanted to make before. I think it's really funny that he did that on Quinn's platform in the first place, because, um, the joke that he made about her not caring about black people that was. That was not a joke. Like Quinn is, um, you could say that she's slightly like one of the whitewashed black girls. Um, black women are not a monolith. You can be whatever you want to be, but people would label her as one of the whitewashed black girls. Her audience is very white. And then lil yacht, lil yachty. Choosing to say that on her platform, knowing what her audience looks like and, um, how they might take that and run with it, is extremely irresponsible, on top of him just genuinely being incorrect but then also the fact like I wouldn't have been mad if he just would have said blm a scam and then just left it at that.
Speaker 2:But then like the qualifier afterwards being like oh, you don't care about nigga, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about she cares more about black people by not saying anything that she doesn't know anything about, versus you spreading misinformation and lies because I know the one thing that you probably watched was your country ass sat there and watched that weak ass candace owens interview I mean a documentary about it and I'm pretty sure you couldn't actually perceive, outside of the words that she was saying, what actually was going on and what she was portraying, because she was misconstruing, like she always does. The main reason that this is so frustrating is because if you actually go into the black lives matter and what they were doing, there was no fraud. So I can I can even prove there's not no fraud. So ap reported this fraud lawsuit against black lives matter foundation dismissed in california. This was in 2023 when this was dismissed, so it has been already clear what these people have been shown right here. It says, in dismissing the lawsuit last, los angeles county superior court judge stephanie bowick sided with the founders lawyer who argued that the local bmo activists failed to prove they were entitled to the raised funds or that the foundation leaders had siphoned off millions of dollars of nefarious purposes among unproven allegations.
Speaker 2:What just people came to realize is when you especially when you watch the candace owens documentary they were supporting a lot of lbgtq uh programs and there were also a lot of those people were being supported. So even in the candace owens doc she shows people who are part of those communities that the money went to and it was all above board. It was all exactly what said was in the documents of what they were doing with the money. They did with the money for these people, but because these people were gay or they didn't, uh, identify in a way that candace thought they saw fit, she tried to frame this as fraud or some type of waste.
Speaker 2:So if you think that it's a scam because it was going to gay people, salute, you're just a homophobe, you are, you just say. But if you're trying to say the scam was being done, there was nothing here being done, there's nothing to show that that was the case. These, these are things that foundations do. That's not, that's not crazy. Any of this stuff that they're talking about here. Fraud is a real thing. I don't. People don't understand fraud and this scam is basically when I say I'm going to do one thing and then I do something completely opposite. I say we're going to give money to a community and I take that money and put it in my pocket. They wanted this to be that these folks were, you know, trying to profit off their own.
Speaker 1:But that's not what was happening. There's no proof of that. What was happening and even when, I'm sad to say, I never really followed up with this story I saw the, the campaign trying to um, uh, vilify black lives matter. Uh, all the news I saw was and it wasn't from canada, so it's all the news I saw was one specific um leader in black lives matter was like using the money for her own leisure and pleasure. That ended up not being true, so I was wrong about that. But when he brought this up, I was like, um, yeah, he should have changed his verbiage to um, the leaders of black lives matter were scammers, but they weren't scammers. Nothing about black lives matter was a scam. The leaders of black lives matter were not scamming people. The movement wasn't a scam.
Speaker 1:I did see something, though that not, though. I saw something and I wish I saved it so I could credit the person who said this. But he said that Black Lives Matter was more effective when it was just a grassroots campaign with no leader, like no face at all. What do you think about that? I think he's right. I feel like these types of movements work a little bit better if there's no leader, no face, nobody to target and it's just like decentralized, like protests.
Speaker 2:But what people don't?
Speaker 1:understand what needs to be centralized is the goal and the message and what what's trying to get done, but I don't think that there specifically needs to be but the people who are doing this were all had history and organization before, so this wasn't their first time doing that.
Speaker 2:These were things that they were already passionate about and working with so like even right here it says in 2020-21 21 IRS filing show.
Speaker 1:Did you say 2020, 21?
Speaker 2:Yeah, 2020 to 2021.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:IRS filing show the Bowers firm received $2.1 million to provide operational support, including staff, fundraising and other key services that the lion's share of what the organization spent on consultants in that physical year. But local organizers failed to prove in court that either bowers form or their firm siphoned millions of dollars in fees from the donation funds, as their lawsuit alleged.
Speaker 1:So again, there wasn't any fraud here there was no fraud and the associated press is a very reputable, non-biased, non-partisan, nowhere leaning um source, that's the word I was looking for so, yeah, this is the.
Speaker 2:That's what is disappointing when it comes to this yachty shit, because you have the voice that you have and you've used it so recklessly, especially over the last few years with the me. What's his partner name? Mitch? Uh, his partner mitch a lot of just the different things that was just going on in regards to, because he said other things kind of in line with this before right, where he's, it's been, uh, in bad taste in regards, like he doesn't care about stuff like this and but most of the rappers don't they?
Speaker 1:they don't satisfy when it comes to like when you ask them about, when you ask them about issues having to do with black people, having to do with anything civil, asap rocky has disappointed us time and time and time and time and time and time again and then, like rappers, are just usually disappointing.
Speaker 2:The fucked up part was this was an easy moment to make you look good.
Speaker 1:She asked you about charities that you was donating for and instead of, um say, of uplifting a charity or organization or a cause that you care about, you decided to shit on another organization, which I think shows a lot about Yachty's character. I think whenever he gets a chance to be positive, then he chooses the opposite. He's a shady bitch, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, like I said, watching the clips from this, this interview, in general I he was having fun with her and whatever, but I I genuinely think Lil Yachty is shady as fuck like no, to me he's very problematic overall and he's he's an example in the worst way of kind of like how I was kind of describing like kendrick.
Speaker 2:He's like the worst way that this could even pan out, because he'll use these, this language, when it's convenient for him, but then when it's not or when it doesn't benefit the language of, of revolution in that manner that language has never presented himself in this situation. You have to think about the context of what he's saying.
Speaker 2:He's calling this organization a scam so he's trying to say that they are anthony, they are, uh, opposed to black people. When you use that kind of language, that is revolutionary language, that resistance language, and for you to not be someone of that ilk you're just using that to bring down actual black organization.
Speaker 1:This is the first and only time he's ever used revolutionary, revolutionary language. Your little yadi is not that nigga when it comes to like talking about politics and things of that nature like this is the first time that he's to my knowledge that he's done that.
Speaker 2:I think he should probably just stay away from that, and you stupid niggas gotta stop listening to candace owens, or, if you do, please google some shit afterwards the only time I ever listened to candace owens was about blake lively and justin baldoni that's the only time I was set for one of her videos no, she. She can kill the white people though she ate that up when she chooses to go at white people. That's.
Speaker 1:That's some of her best work, I think I again, her gossip work is great because it is. You know it's just gossip and you know that everything is like, not actually based on any fact well, not all her gossip workers.
Speaker 2:Calling that man the, the french prime minister's wife, transgender is still.
Speaker 1:That's crazy okay, I was. I was just celebrity things, that's. When I say gossip, I mean celebrity, crazy Hollywood she made another documentary about it.
Speaker 2:Like she, she's, she is full force in this oh lord, all right I'm just telling you man.
Speaker 1:Candace is a mess man all right.
Speaker 2:So life is a labor of love, so let's keep these moments. Let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, and the only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations and these fucking billionaires.
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