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Lebron Violates Stephen A /Black Media, Snow White Gets Called Out , and Racist Marvel Fans Exposed
When LeBron James chose Pat McAfee's show over Black-hosted platforms to address Stephen A. Smith's criticism, he revealed the complex calculations Black public figures make in media. What does it mean when a Black superstar feels more comfortable in predominantly white spaces? Why do many prominent Black voices seek these "safer" environments for their most candid thoughts?
The conversation deepens as we examine racial backlash against Marvel's Ironheart casting, exposing a disturbing pattern: even when characters are created as Black from inception (not "race-swapped"), certain audiences still react with hostility. This isn't about authenticity—it's about resistance to diversity itself. "Y'all just mad about seeing Black people," as one host aptly puts it, cutting through the pretense of legitimate criticism.
We explore the unexpected controversy surrounding Peter Dinklage's criticism of the Snow White remake, where his advocacy inadvertently threatened job opportunities for other little people actors. This tension highlights how even well-intentioned criticism can have complex economic implications for marginalized communities, especially when coming from someone with established career security.
Throughout our discussion, we examine how public figures from Rachel Zegler to government officials handle criticism and controversy in an age where personal expression, entertainment, and public perception continually collide. The striking contrast between accountability at different power levels—where everyday workers face severe consequences while political elites escape meaningful punishment for more serious lapses—reminds us that America's standards remain frustratingly inconsistent across racial, economic, and political lines.
Join us for an unfiltered conversation that challenges conventional narratives about race, power, and whose voices truly matter in American media. Subscribe now and become part of a community that's willing to ask the uncomfortable questions.
What was going on with his son? His son was doing ketamine, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And was chilling with White Wind and he was sleeping with his former teammate's ex-wife.
Speaker 4:That's rich behavior. This is wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're wrong. And then the person who posted this is like oh you.
Speaker 4:Like that's what the niggas that's like the consensus. So the person who posted it, is it the son or is it the father or is it just a third?
Speaker 2:this is just a third party who's just like I'm gonna trash this because the original post says let me see.
Speaker 4:It says find something else to do with your son like a lot of women watching this have come across like a guy who just lied to get what he wanted in the first place. Like that's a very common occurrence, that's a canon event for us as women.
Speaker 2:Like that's something that you cannot disturb they are more like you said up front regarding like, if they see it and it don't even matter if this is a race swap or a new like the fact that they see a black face in any of these promotions, any of these superheroes that's coming out, it's automatically a negative, and I know it's gonna sound crazy me saying this they used to it but white boys can ride. I'm not gonna hold you like.
Speaker 2:That's literally all they was doing you didn't even pause that after oh, my bad pause, he's undermining that and saying that's why I was able to play for so long, because I actually have skill and I'm still big, strong, fast as everybody.
Speaker 4:Is he incorrect? No, he's correct Talk your shit.
Speaker 3:Like what.
Speaker 4:He's wearing his crown. I'm not going to lie to you.
Speaker 2:A woman who, very swiftly and without effort, terrorizes men on a regular basis is my type of bitch we either have a bunch of the most incompetent crackers that you will ever collect in your life or we have a sinister bunch of people who are planning things.
Speaker 4:There could have been one or two women dwarves as um one of snow white's little helpers, they could have been high the implications, though, man.
Speaker 2:Like you got two, one or two of them. They're getting passed around yet by the other dwarves like why would that?
Speaker 4:that's an implication, a thought that pops up. What does knock need actually look like you've seen a girl that's knock me?
Speaker 7:girls that are knock me are disgusting oh my, they usually like go out or go in like like that be smiling from ear to ear when he hears me talking about him oh my god, he's gonna get home and grab some ice cream out of the freezer and sit in his chair her um the snow white europe European promo tour has been canceled completely because she allegedly was at one of the events for the United States premiere.
Speaker 4:Hi oh, shit Off her ass, allegedly.
Speaker 2:Like off some pills, no coke Coke. Oh OK, they said it was coke.
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Speaker 3:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What the fuck do you think your fucking ass is?
Speaker 2:doing on that podcast now. All right, so you showed me something interesting on your tiktok that I.
Speaker 4:It disturbed me a little bit it disturbed me when I saw it. So I was scrolling on my tiktok, as I do regularly, and I see a video of this bride flashing her panties at her wedding multiple times. She has like a dress and it has like I don't know, but she like splits it open and then she doesn't even. I don't even know how you like cutely flash your panties, but her, the way she did it, I can't do it because I have on a skirt, but it was real, like gremlin, it was like yeah, no, I didn't understand where, like she, it felt like the liquor got the best of her.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking was going on I don't know what was going on like she had, you know, one too many to drink, and now she just was ready to bust it out apparently she didn't plan that.
Speaker 4:That's just something she felt like doing. So I feel like you might be right.
Speaker 2:But her her man was there?
Speaker 4:did you see his face? I mean it's a wedding, so I would assume well, yeah, yeah obviously, but like he's right there in the, in the videos, in the pictures with her, and in the first one it's all like men that she did it in front of. And then there's another one where, like it's her bridesmaids and she does it again like You're not even really describing exactly what she was doing.
Speaker 2:She was putting her flowers in front of her area. In the second one Like in her groin with her girls.
Speaker 4:That's in the second one. In the first one it was just full on panties, so yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, she got to feel like she embarrassed the whole family. I don't even know how else you can put that.
Speaker 4:Like. What is the point of that Like?
Speaker 2:bro, gotta just kind of I'm pretty sure if his dad was around. He probably pulled him to the side and was like, hey, man, we gotta.
Speaker 4:You can get this annulled. We gotta put an end to this one. It's only been an hour.
Speaker 2:This ain't the girl we thought this ain't the girl. We thought we was getting into negotiations.
Speaker 4:That's what I with it. And he's like, ah, my girl's so cool, look at her like flashing her panties at the wedding.
Speaker 2:And there's also a world where it's like I can't actually show emotion here because everyone's going to call me a crash out for just like having genuine feelings about the situation. I'd crash out. I mean, if he got a little bit emotional, it's going to be looked at as like a crash out.
Speaker 4:I'd crash out fully. Like if I show my dick you showing your dick at the wedding? Why are you doing that? I'm grabbing the dick as soon as you show it I'm lit, so what is this? Why is it? Out. Why are you?
Speaker 2:doing this to me, doing it once. I can understand, especially you letting the liquor get to you. You just being goofy, whatever you know.
Speaker 4:White women uh-huh but like to do it again and then like multiple times make like a theme of a photo of it and she was like laughing her ass off.
Speaker 2:It's like you don't, you don't got no respect for that man at all no no respect for the family, no respect for the kids that may have been there, the property, he has to be a cuck like I don't think he gotta be the actual, like genuine sense of the word.
Speaker 4:My thing is, it's not that you gotta be a cuck because you can be.
Speaker 2:Enjoys that oh, if he enjoys it yeah I don't. I wouldn't say he a cuck because he enjoys it.
Speaker 4:I'm just what is that?
Speaker 2:I would. I would say that it could be a sense where it's like he that's after after a certain point, there is no controlling her, like she going to do what she want.
Speaker 4:And she been doing this. He married her. You're right.
Speaker 2:This is not the first time she didn't show some panty or some shit in front of him at a function.
Speaker 4:She done accidentally sucked a dick or two before this and you've forgiven her and you're going to.
Speaker 2:that's what it gives to me he knows what he's signing up for.
Speaker 4:we're just making assumptions off of these strangers relationship now I mean, she is a content creator, so she is free game yeah that's what that uh page said so because what girl, why like this blonde white lady is just absolutely insane I mean they can just divide.
Speaker 2:They can, like destroy whatever they want because they know no one's gonna hold them really accountable for it. Like if he gets any kind of feeling about it, it's just gonna be turned on him as being insecure. No, he knows it. There's going to be some factions of people there are that are going to be like oh yeah, he's right, but the overarching majority is going to be you need to just get over this.
Speaker 4:That's going to be the sentiment I feel like most, most people are going to be like yeah, this is kind of crazy. Don't flash your panties at your wedding with all my family and friends and the cousins and them right here, maybe.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you can do the chastising and the lecturing, but when it actually comes to him making a decision, there's going to be a few people that's going to be on his side to be like, oh yeah, you should leave her. Most people are going to tell you that they're going to be multiple people telling him.
Speaker 4:No, you need to just weather the storm. You need to set hard boundaries, sir, going forth in this relationship, so she don't flash your family. You can't do that now you can't do that now.
Speaker 2:You can't start putting hard boundaries after you then gave her the engagement ring. You was cool with the tomfoolery. You can now just try to up your tool.
Speaker 4:But you got to have some cooth with the tomfoolery Like at the wedding.
Speaker 2:I mean he probably we're not even at game night.
Speaker 4:If you did that at the game night, then that's a completely different situation. But we're at the wedding.
Speaker 2:My grandma is here then that's a completely different situation. But we're at the wedding, my grandma is here, so you think he may have been like tyler in that tyler perry movie when, uh, she was dancing with the stripper and yep and he walked in he just smiled, he let it go, went back to the little room. She followed him smack that bitch.
Speaker 4:That's so crazy. That shit was crazy. See that was tyler perry.
Speaker 2:Hates black women so bad well, I'm not gonna say that, but I will say I hate when tyler perry does like. He creates a justifiably angry situation for the man to be the being, but then makes him take it to the like upteenth degree yeah, because he didn't have to smack her.
Speaker 4:He could have just immediately started blacking out like yelling and that would have been a rational, like um reaction to that and so I just think that that's my problem with that scene, because that shit didn't make no sense I did see that the other day oh yeah, it was going around.
Speaker 2:I seen it too. Yeah, we chronically online, we got problems we do.
Speaker 4:My screen time is crazy. My brain is fried. I gotta start reading some books. I realized chance is never gonna top acid rap. I realize Chance is never going to top Acid Rap Because of the nostalgia I have attached to this album.
Speaker 2:It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 3:I don't think he can put his body through drugs anymore.
Speaker 4:One of my friends, DaVon, from high school, put me onto Chance. And then I put all of my friends onto Chance except Shem, Because Shem always knows all the music, or maybe I did, I don't know.
Speaker 3:school put me onto chance and then I put my all of my friends onto chance, exception because or maybe I did, I don't know this album went diamond in the garage. I'm good, I'm good. So good. I had a fun last time, baby, oh, oh oh, I'm good. So good, I'm good. Keep some X on my tongue, keep my work out in Texas. That's just me flexing my lungs. See them showing they teeth. That's just them flapping they gums. If they biting, I'm snapping Quack, quack, collapsing the lung. Call me Chancellor the Rapper. Please say the rapper. Magic the word. Please say cadaver. Replay the replays. Green Bay, the packers. Green Bay to teammates and Free Bay's. We made your teammates and freebases the ashes matches, the gas leaks, dust to dust till dawn. It's just us. And trust your bottom. Bitch my stuff. Don't fucking bump. I'm the motherfucking fucker. Fuck a nigga's fucking dumb.
Speaker 6:This your favorite fucking out. Mine ain't even fucking done. I'm good. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I'm good. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I'm good. So I'm good, so good, I'm good. I'm better than the last time. I'm good so good.
Speaker 2:Niggas thought Chance was really going to take over the game.
Speaker 4:I was niggas.
Speaker 2:Fell for the marketing.
Speaker 4:Marketing. There was no marketing behind Acid Rap, it was only from Acid Rap. I thought he was gonna take over immediately after this.
Speaker 2:That's how they got you I was like no all right, you are now listening to talk fnf TV. I'm your host, absurd Rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Farrah. Hi guys, we're back at it for another.
Speaker 4:It's not for raw. What the even is a for raw? Bleep that out. It's the first five minutes, but why would you assume it's for raw? That's always my thing with americans, because why would you assume it was it and not farah, like you don't know a farah faucet? It's sarah with an f. That's it go on all right.
Speaker 2:So we got to get into a lot today, man, a lot has, especially in the world of sports. But you know, since we're not a sports show, we got to talk about what they're doing in their lives for Farrah to be interested in it. That's the only way we can get this off. Yeah. But LeBron was on Pat McAfee's show so I know you're not familiar with him. Nope he is a former punter in the NFL who's turned into essentially a broadcaster, has his own show on ESPN.
Speaker 4:Punter, what is that?
Speaker 2:That's the dude on fourth down. That kicks the ball to the other team.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:So he was kind of like a sign of defeat.
Speaker 4:Why does he not call them kickers?
Speaker 2:Because the kicker is the one who kicks the ball through the field goal for points. Two different positions.
Speaker 4:They're both kickers. One of them kicks the ball.
Speaker 2:I didn't expect us to be doing a shorter distance no, well, sometimes, but it just depends one of them kicks the ball through the uprights, you know the little goal posts and then one of them just kicks the ball to the other team, jesus christ. So lebron joins pat mcafee. So LeBron joins Pat McAfee and he sits down. They have a LeBronversation. That's what he called it.
Speaker 4:That's stupid. That does not roll off the tongue well at all, and I don't like that. That's not a thing. Don't try to make fetch a thing.
Speaker 2:And so I thought this was kind of like really important to point out with this, before we kind of get everything. Lebron doesn't do interviews like this, especially interview, was it I'm talking about? He sat down, he's at the place with them.
Speaker 2:He's not doing it over the video. He's actually sitting down in studio with them like being part of the crew. He doesn't normally. He's done that for a few guys here and there. A lot of them been his ex-teammates. But you don't really see, unless it's like an ESPN type of interview, you know where it's NBA and all that stuff, kind of all planned. It's kind of a curated thing. You don't see LeBron do interviews like this, and so he was kind of going off and he took his sights on Stephen A.
Speaker 4:Of course, because you was talking about my son.
Speaker 2:And also Stephen A was on Gil's Arena, which is another up and coming compared to Pat McAfee, and that's basically where he got all his shit off and it kind of really erupted from that standpoint. So I thought it was interesting seeing that he went to Pat McAfee, but I want y'all to take a listen to what he actually had to say about Stephen A, because it was highly disrespectful he went at bro head.
Speaker 4:I like that. I like the messiness in the sports. That's my favorite part.
Speaker 8:I live for the drama it's obviously to you and Stephen A hey, legit, that feels like a moment that had been brewing for a long time he's like on a Taylor Swift.
Speaker 7:Yeah, tour run right now, oh yeah yeah, we're watching.
Speaker 8:We're awesome. Oh, yeah, you're seeing it as well, so hold on.
Speaker 2:I'm going to pause it right here. Stephen A also had an issue with Pat McAfee, the guy who's on his show, because they both on ESPN.
Speaker 4:Link with the ops and let's talk some shit. I love it.
Speaker 2:Also, I think it's a white man. No, taylor swift. Oh, taylor swift reference. Wake it up, wake it up.
Speaker 7:Okay, you're doing the science, all right, literally, it started off with I didn't want to address it. Yeah, sure, I didn't. I didn't want to address it. I wasn't going to address it, but since the video came out, I feel the need to address it are you me If? There's one person that couldn't wait to the video to drop so you could address it. It's your ass, Like seriously, Uh-uh.
Speaker 7:And like another. He completely like missed the whole point, the whole point. Never in my never would I ever not allow people to talk about the sport, criticize players about what they do on the court, that is your job. To criticize or to be in a position where, okay, if a guy's not performing, that is all part of the game. That's all part of the game. But when you take it and you get personal with it, it's my job to not only protect my damn household but protect the players and I think a lot of the media, including him, and I know he's going to be happy as hell. He's going to be smiling from ear to ear when he hears me talking about him.
Speaker 7:Oh my God, he's going to get home and grab some ice cream out of the fucking freezer and sit in his chair and his tighty-whities on the couch Rub his feet together.
Speaker 3:Tighty-whities.
Speaker 7:Like dude. Relax bro, like relax.
Speaker 2:So that was heat. I'm not going to lie. Uh-huh, he came at Stephen A Head. He didn't, so that was heat.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to lie. Uh-huh. He came at Stephen A Head. He didn't come at him as much as you made it seem like I thought he was about to get disrespectful. Oh, I mean come on.
Speaker 2:That's LeBron at the end of the day.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's not going to behave like an upstanding black man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like this, right there, like in his world. That is like some of the most, like you said, the white woman comment Comparing him to a white woman.
Speaker 4:He said he gonna take his fat ass to get some ice cream and rub his feet together on the couch while he watch me talk about him, because he's obsessed with me.
Speaker 2:He put him in tighty whities Like he really is shaming this man.
Speaker 4:He said they loose and they got stains. He said they dirty.
Speaker 2:He said you in the dirty, tighty whwatties, mad at me because I'm mad, and happy and happy for me that I'm talking about you and so it's. He goes on a lot more I'm gonna play another clip I'm gonna play up some more clips, because he, lebron, was letting the clip I like that.
Speaker 4:I like that a lot, but I'm not mad at the response either.
Speaker 2:Because, like I said, this is this is totally out of his behavior. When it came to him and skip bayless, he never addressed skip, even to this day. He let skip just fall off on his own. And now skip is up into the abyss and whatnot, linking up with steven a and other people to try to, you know, salvage some type of relevancy, but he let him die. You know, he, the braun, never touched it.
Speaker 4:I think it's different because was um was Skip talking about his son like it wasn't.
Speaker 2:It was always about that era. Yet, yeah, it was always. But I'm saying, for 20 years Skip Bayless made a living off of taking down LeBron James. Never, never, got a word of it of course of course there was there's argument to say that hey, if he would have spoke to Skip or spoke about Skip or whatever, that would have only made Skip's persona bigger. But damn it, if you're going to make $4 million, $5 million a year doing it, damn, how much bigger could you have made him.
Speaker 4:So I have a random question for you, since you just said that. Do you think that LeBron is addressing Stephen A because he doesn't mind? He doesn't mind, he doesn't mind, kind of like giving him that platform too because he's black? He's like, let me, if I'm gonna address somebody, let me address a black man and give him some like residual clout?
Speaker 2:I don't think it's residual clout. I think that they just I think, because he is not, that he doesn't go at any white people. There is a clip I'm about to play where he actually goes at another white journalist. Ok but I do feel there's a comfortability to attack another black man, and I think this one was just coming. He threw under the bus because you think it's the?
Speaker 2:opposite. I think there's a comfortability that he could do to attack another black man, but I think he threw in this white person as a kind of let me make sure I do both.
Speaker 2:So they he threw in this white person as a kind of let me make sure I do both so they don't try to pull that car, because this person never said what lebron said. Lebron really just lied on this nigga. But uh, brian ritt windhorse is a reporter, sports reporter who's made fame is basically been covering lebron james since he was a young guy and so most people that's what they know him as he's always spoke favorably of LeBron. He's kind of always been in LeBron's pocket, and so for LeBron to kind of go at him and say this was kind of wild. So I'm going to play it here.
Speaker 7:I see a lot of shit too, like I seen Brian Wendhurst on one of these shows not too long ago, wendy- you played together in high school. Yeah, this guy was like you know, says he's like my fucking best friend these guys are just weird.
Speaker 4:But, um, when you hear somebody shady, oh no, that is crazy. Lebron, this man is literally about to go jump off a bridge now, because you said that he called him weird.
Speaker 2:He ends up going on saying like he tried to. Basically, what made him upset was there was a comment where he was talking about lebron, about why he wore number 23 and why he signed with nike, and he was saying he signed with nike because he wanted to follow in jordan's footsteps. He was like no, I signed with nike because they gave me 90 million dollars for seven years and I got my mom out the hood the next day so that's what he was just trying to like.
Speaker 2:They gave me the most money so he was, I think to me, because wendy never said they was best friends. So I think that was just him throwing a shot at another guy in house in espn because he knew if he just shot at steven a it was gonna get painted as oh you good at attacking the the black guy but you're not gonna attack none of these white journalists we've been going at you because he was going after he was going at the shack he.
Speaker 4:He had some subliminals for shack what he say about shack, because I thought it might have just been friendly.
Speaker 2:It was that Shaq and Charles Barkley but no, he was like some of y'all guys was just bigger and stronger than everybody else. Y'all really didn't have no skill.
Speaker 4:I mean yeah, Was that not the running joke about Shaq? Was that he was just big?
Speaker 2:He was the most dominant player, but he's undermining that and saying that's why I was able to play for so long, because I actually have skill and I'm still big, strong, fast, everybody like is he?
Speaker 4:is he incorrect?
Speaker 2:he's no he's correct, but he's talking your shit. Like what he wearing? He wearing his crown. I'm not gonna lie to you period.
Speaker 4:You are a superior man who's better than all of these niggas you've been playing for god knows how long. This is unprecedented. Your son is now in the nba, you know. You know what I was thinking about the other day. It would be much more interesting for me if bronnie succeeded than if he didn't, because imagine, after your father being your father and the type of player he was you come into the nba and you even get a glimmer of the career he had. That's insane Two black men back to back.
Speaker 2:I mean that's a good story.
Speaker 4:That's a the documentary. Well, I would be in tears, tears the entire time. Imagine when Bronny if Bronny has an extremely successful career in the NBA, that dynasty and then that documentary that'll come out, and then Savannah sitting there, period cause, period, bitch cause. Nobody can say shit about you. Then, like I would love that, I really. That's what I'm rooting for now, because that's what you want to see that's a way more interesting story to me than if he just like is meh, mid I mean more than likely it's going to be the last.
Speaker 4:No, but I want it to. I want the like glimmering like crazy. Once in a lifetime story to happen. It's going to be much more interesting that way.
Speaker 2:I watched this whole interview so I want to just give you some of my like bigger takeaways. Lebron is really comfortable around white people. I'm not gonna hold you. He was like if you listen to the way he was talking to them, it wasn't like how a lot of these guys would be. They'll have like maybe nervous you'll hear them speaking lower than normal or higher than normal or like an animated version of lebron was chilling with these folks he, he wasn't code switching at all there was no type of code switch.
Speaker 2:He was swearing when he wanted to. I respect that he was. He was stopping when other people were talking. I'm not even talking about just pat, like when his other people started talking and saying he would let them say what I had to say wasn't like nobody's cutting him off or anything but, he was giving people room to speak and things like that.
Speaker 4:It was like he was really comfortable in the room.
Speaker 2:A level, a level-headed human who respects people I don't know if it's a level-headed human that respects people, but he was cool in the room. But to speak to that, to the other part of this, and I know it's gonna sound crazy me saying this- they used to it but white boys can ride dick. I'm not gonna hold you like that's literally all they was doing.
Speaker 4:You didn't even pause that after oh, my bad pause.
Speaker 2:They was literally I saw a video that was like if you're not comfortable in your masculinity, you're not gonna say pause. So I mean I'm comfortable in my masculinity so you gotta say pause you are
Speaker 4:but, but you gotta, but I'm saying they they was riding it.
Speaker 2:The whole interview, like the whole room, took a turn. Like it was like they all sat on ice packs and they knew they was gonna take a turn riding it let me ask you a question.
Speaker 4:If we had the privilege of interviewing lebron, would, respectfully, would we both not be riding it?
Speaker 2:I don't know the entire interview. This is what I feel like, because I don't feel like speaking highly of somebody because I'd be I'm jesus christ, like what the fuck is wrong with you nigga. I'm saying I don't think speaking highly of somebody is riding for them. But when they speak out of turn or incorrect about something and for me I don't speak up to me that feels like I'm taking a part of myself to make you happy and that comes off like riding to me and I can never ride. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:that's not the type of dude I am yeah, but that's why I love you and I respect you salute.
Speaker 2:But I think I understand why these guys be going to these kind of venues like drake. Uh, a lot of these big time acts go to these kind of white spaces, like even with the trump and andrew schultz, and if you're like, those guys know how to ride like all-time riders, like elite level, like it's, it's, it's it's almost like corn star level, like these type of riding performances that these gentlemen can do.
Speaker 4:It's impeccable do you think white men are more secure in their masculinity than black men are?
Speaker 2:I don't think that's why they ride. I don't think it has nothing to do with security, their masculinity. I think they just fall in line because they know this is for the betterment of whatever you know movement they're pushing at the time, because we're all just talking about people in media right now.
Speaker 4:I just cooked with that question that was a good question, but I think that, like I said, you could have been messy, you didn't take it I just don't feel like.
Speaker 2:I honestly, just, truly just don't feel like that's the guy. I just think they have an understanding and professionalism that I think maybe goes above and beyond, because not only does the lebron do this with him, he's spoken with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is a quarterback who's been really good for a long time, and I think that's another reason why LeBron picked this platform, and I think that's one thing we should probably highlight too with this. Not only is the riding why he picked this platform, but other athletes that are in other sports have used this platform as an opportunity to speak to the masses. So Aaron Rodgers used to do during the nfl season like a tuesday show or tuesday wednesday show with him.
Speaker 2:So this is known like this is where you want to go to the question. I do want to ponder a little bit with this before we wrap up. Should lebron have considered a black space? Because one could say he could go to gill's arena, where this was all you know going back and forth at, but why he could go to gill's arena, where this was all you know going back and forth at?
Speaker 4:but why would he go to gill's arena after um, oh boy, already just did that like. What other option is there? Because I don't think that's a good option, regardless of how you shake it.
Speaker 2:I'll bring this up right here because gill's arena actually, you know, they do an episode every day, so they talked about and reacted to this and Rashad McCants had brought this up regarding, maybe, who should probably be the most upset about this interview, like I would say, maybe potentially like a club shea shea, you might be on to something. Farrah, you might be on to something One second.
Speaker 12:I think that would probably have been the most fitting. He graduated the jar club. I'm not talking to him. I'm talking to him. Oh, oh, okay. He said he feels sorry for her. He feels sorry for Shannon Sharp. And what does Shannon Sharp have to do? You know Shannon Sharp really like LeBron. Shannon Sharp is a LeBron fan to Shannon Sharpe. After this you know Shannon Sharpe really liked LeBron. Shannon Sharpe is a LeBron fan. Lebron went to Pat McAfee and didn't go to Shea. Shea Did not pull up to Club Shea. Yeah, you know everybody would be going hard glazing for LeBron and then he don't come have a conversation with you. Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 10:He didn't. He was going safe environment. He already sold him what it is. Gotta be safe. What you say, how long? How long big Steven a go keep talking about in your boss when we keep talking about this LeBron shit.
Speaker 12:Yeah, just tell me, wait a minute, lebron is up there talking about the brother he had to.
Speaker 10:Know he didn't eat what he said. He went on a Taylor Swift tour and it started here at Django, unchained with y'all. It was 2.0. Django Unchained two niggas on the net. Just yeah, boss, yeah, yeah, mr Charlie, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just, just, just just. I ain't that too much, oh man hey y'all.
Speaker 2:So I want to just kind of point this out here.
Speaker 4:He was calling. They show Django Unchained.
Speaker 2:He was saying yeah, basically it started here in regards to Stephen A going crazy and saying everything he said about Braun and then forcing lebron to find a platform to go to. I think it's interesting that he didn't pick, you know, like we said, shannon either either gil's arena or maybe even like somebody I know some people say, joe bunn podcast.
Speaker 2:I think there's a reason why, I mean, or even if you want to get into all the other NBA players, you know former, who have podcasts, like a lot of people have gotten their name off of, like kicking mud at LeBron. You know Joe Budden show has done that. They made comments about Bronny and Bron, even though club say, you know Shannon has been, you know, a supporter of Bron.
Speaker 4:If I'm Bron, I could feel like I still don't like the way you get your money because you always got to sit next to a nigga that's talking down on me yeah, but if you, sitting next to the nigga who made his career off talking down on me and you made every single time you were the the opposite and the the opposite voice and you were going at bat for me, then I don't think I'm to be mad at you for where you sat.
Speaker 2:I can see that where you went from Skip Bayless to Stephen A working with both of them, who I'm allies with. The way that you get your money I have a problem with Because every time cool you can talk about me. There's a lot of people who do shows talking good about me, but they ain't have to sit next to somebody who has to shit on me every day and that's what you choose to do, so you are an enabler of it. So I said I'm not saying that he should feel that way. I can just understand if there's a world where he does feel that way yeah, I understand that and then you go to gil barinas, even though gil has been very positive.
Speaker 2:There's people on that couch who have not been yeah and then there's also like, say, when you go into, you can go into kevin garnett and his history with lebron why he may not want to do his show. I think the only other person he could have sat down with would have been carmelo anthony, because him and carmel anthony have had a pretty good arrangement going on, but his show is not as nowhere close, as big as Pat McAfee.
Speaker 4:I was about to say that Nobody really like I haven't seen that show pop up and like go viral or anything at all.
Speaker 2:For Pat McAfee, or just. Carmelo, carmelo, oh yeah, it's been a minute, since he had a really big viral push for his show.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm, and I feel like he can Like first of all, get La La on there. I.
Speaker 2:Like first of all, get Lala on there. I think she did. She was on there once.
Speaker 4:She's a host. She knows how to work the camera.
Speaker 2:She was on there when they was talking to his son, when they did an episode all together for his selection.
Speaker 2:They're so cute, but no, again, I don't know if there's a lot of places that he could choose, that he could go to, though, honestly, like his hands were kind of tied. If we're talking about media spaces that are that big and I just I, I can see this, this having like bigger ramifications, like why larger? Because you haven't seen braun on any of these other guys shows. I think that that needs to be highlighted is that because he has his own show?
Speaker 4:I mean, you could that could, you could argue that being a reason and then the, the, the people that he wants to talk to and the people that he wants to have conversations with. He just invites them on. Like how many episodes, like how long was the? Is it a consistent show or is it just like a?
Speaker 2:They have seasons, they have seasons, it goes in and out Because we used to be on. Hbo and then they brought it on and just kept it on YouTube. And because it's not necessarily funded by somebody. They don't do it weekly, not, you know necessarily funded by somebody.
Speaker 4:They probably they don't do it, you know, weekly it's just. Yeah, they may have like he's a busy man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have like areas they may do like two weeks in a row. Things like you know different, sporadic yeah drops with it, but they usually do a pretty good promo about it I feel like that might be.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's one reason why, but still, even other people who have platforms go and do other people's platforms and I think that because a lot of these men have made their bones either taking shots at Braun. He's seen that and that's just the only way that he was really going to move and some people can call that lame. I don't call that lame because, like, even especially after Kobe's passing, I think a lot of people took that as an opportunity to use that to take shots at him to be like oh yeah, I mean, but you ain't Kobe, and now I can't say nothing about that publicly yeah, because he's not here
Speaker 4:yeah, you sound crazy yeah, and he would never do that no, I don't think. No, I don't think so especially now that he's a laker like there's no way he can ever say anything negative about kobe ever yeah so I just think that he was in a rough spot.
Speaker 2:I don't want to sit here and be like, oh he's just, you know, working with the white man, but I think there was a lot of strategic reasons picking mcfee again with him, his beef with steven, a being in esp, and so basically saying I'm in your house but not in your house, like it's just a lot of different chess moves with that. So we'll see how this progresses. Uh, which mccall did have something to say?
Speaker 4:steven, they did respond on his podcast I was gonna say do you think that he did? He does?
Speaker 2:he did the white podcast because the white boys be riding dick more and he don't want to do a podcast with somebody who was at one point of op I mean, I think that's a reason the white boys were not at one point of op because they ride dick so well yeah, I think that's a reason I think that was what I was kind of stating on with the drake and why you see a lot of people do safer media, which is usually tends to be more white people, because they don't have a problem giving that to their audience.
Speaker 4:I don't know about drake. That white boy went on and played a bunch of op songs because he had no idea what the fuck he was doing like, yeah, that's a platform you shouldn't have been on and put his hands on me. I would have immediately swung on him immediately what are we talking about, steven?
Speaker 2:they saying if lebron would have touched him at the game he would have swung on him.
Speaker 4:So if lebron did a like, did a like shoulder he said, if he would have.
Speaker 2:He said, if that man would have put his hands on me, I would have swung on put his hands on you. How like in a violent way okay you've seen the clip right? Well, no, when he came he stepped to him on the sideline we talked about.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah, I thought there was a different. Okay, I thought it was a different situation. Like, of course, if somebody attacks you, you defend yourself you're just being messy at this point steven like and then we know lebron would watch you like. This man has been running, running, sprints up and down a court for goddamn three decades and you think you, with your chips and your ice cream and your tighty-whities on the bed, you think you can defend yourself against LeBron? He's literally going to dog walk you. Mop you with the floor.
Speaker 2:Stephen, you funny dog, you funnyven that, you funny dog, you funny he is funny, though he's highly entertaining I ain't gonna lie to you. Funny as hell I would pay premium dollar to watch him and lebron fight physically they had a, had somebody doing an over under for the boxing and they was like lebron over everything you had to pay five thousand dollars to win, a hundred dollars for for leBron to win. I know you don't understand gambling.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 1:I don't. That means you got to pay a lot of money just to get $100.
Speaker 2:That means that he had a very high, you know odds.
Speaker 4:Oh so everyone was betting on his.
Speaker 2:Basically everybody would have said he was going to win, I keep my money, so. All right, let's get into this Snow White conversation. So I don't know if you're familiar with this. You know the new, recent Snow White movie that just came out.
Speaker 4:I am They've been saying that they don't like the casting.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are mad at Rachel Zegler. I think that is the star of the movie. She's the one who plays Snow White.
Speaker 2:She was very outspoken. She's like a very outspoken feminist girl, and also she has said some things regarding the conflict in Palestine and I think that rubbed some people the wrong way. There was also some other things I want to get into, but we were going to start talking about one portion of this. In regards to the little people who were used in the movie, we're going to touch on that, but before we started recording, the producer's son essentially attacked her on Instagram about the movie.
Speaker 4:What did he say?
Speaker 2:So somebody commented and said your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress. Any words on this? Because this is creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No shame on your father. He responds you really want to do this? Yeah, he responds, you really want to do this. Yeah, my dad, the producer of enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20 year old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multimillion dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for. This is called adult responsibility and accountability, and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires, at the risk of all of the colleagues and crew and blue collar workers who depend on the movie to be successful.
Speaker 4:narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged oh wow, he lit her up yeah, he read her crazy so, um, I love when I just randomly have gossip that ties into this, but blind items. So apparently her the Snow White European promo tour has been canceled completely because she allegedly was at one of the events for the United States premiere. Hi, oh, shit Off her ass, allegedly.
Speaker 2:Like off some pills.
Speaker 4:No coke Coke. Oh okay, they said it was coke. They said it was a bug of sugar.
Speaker 2:I could imagine she's been kind of stressed out because a lot of people in the crazy, a lot of people in the mega sphere have kind of hijacked and co-opted, you know, onto this disdain of this movie and everything she stood out for, because she's like about outspoken feminist like I've seen people didn't show. Highlight her her skin. She's hairy, you know, like a little hairy on her. They like highlight her skin. Look at this hairy woman showing unflattering pictures.
Speaker 4:Oh no, they were saying that the woman that plays the other character was too old. Oh, Gal Gadot, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, and I saw people talking shit about her. Mostly it's been centered around Rachel.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and Rachel, like I said, she has been very much outspoken regarding this. I like that. I like when people are outspoken against atrocities going on in the world, and if that negatively affects you and you keep speaking out, then that's, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:I think some of the stuff though that she's she has said. It kind of ties into the thing I was telling you about with the doji whereas, like you're trying to have, many people purchase you, as many people as possible purchase you, and when you may take certain stances, you then put people who have other obligations, which is this film in jeopardy, like he was saying well, if you're with disney, then I don't think you can take a hard political stance on anything.
Speaker 4:I think you should probably just not have opinions.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're going to use that for that period of time that you're promoting, yeah, if you're going to use the movie moment itself and in the fact that you know the promo run, to kind of hijack it for your, your movement or whatever, whatever you just you know your ideology or whatever you kind of have to understand the blowback that's going to come with that, because they're they're paying you to be a, a blank script, basically yeah like you, go there and smile, you know, do the high fives and waves and then you go about your business especially disney and, like I said, like people like charlie kirk and stuff have been like showing where she's been in screenings of the movie trying to say, oh, it's an empty screening, nobody's going to see this movie.
Speaker 2:Like it's been crazy I did not know that it was that insane I think a lot of people are just being a little hard on it because the disney remakes haven't so well in general but also like maleficent was a thing just now, like there's all there's already been.
Speaker 4:No, that's not a Snow White thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I was going to go into that, but before we touch on that, it is.
Speaker 4:But it is yeah, so there's already been live action remakes.
Speaker 2:Well, what I was going to say is that's what they need to go back to, because these movies that they're remaking were animated movies. They were built with cartoons in mind, meaning cartoon expressions, cartoon body movements. This was not meant to be a live action.
Speaker 4:We need to go back to when you just took a story out of the universe and then you did that like a Maleficent, like the old Peter Pan movie with Robin Williams where you took a story, the one with emma roberts where she um, she was cruella. That was, oh, my chef's kiss. Those are always the better stories.
Speaker 2:If you take him away to take that universe or somebody from that character, that one of those characters, and then tell a story outside of that story, then you can tell the story the way that you want to tell it give us the story from the dwarves perspective this time.
Speaker 4:Like what? What do they do on a daily basis? What were they doing before they met snow white?
Speaker 2:and I'm glad you brought up the door. So the the big controversy that was going on as well, or alongside it, was the fact that you, you know they use CGI dwarves for Snow White.
Speaker 4:Like little people don't exist.
Speaker 2:So this is interesting because generally that would be, you know, the normal thing. You would get a bunch of little people to be in this movie, but one of the people who were actually calling for this to not happen early on which is what I was reading against. I want to say a legend. It was peter dinklage and they were saying that he was stopping this from being like real people, peter dinklage is the the the guy from game of thrones.
Speaker 4:Guy from game of thrones niggas not gonna know what his who, what his name is, but the little person from game of thrones so he was trying to talk about this as being like just backwards or whatever, criticizing the movie.
Speaker 4:But a lot of people in the industry, who are little people, were like, hey, these are our roles that's what I was thinking, because if I'm a little person and an actor, there's only but so many roles that I can fit into. If they're using CGI now, then you're putting me out of work and you're the only little person who's in Hollywood in this position and you're damaging everybody else's pockets.
Speaker 2:So the theory is and this is again speculation that he is doing this so that they can't create a new little person in Hollywood, so that he can have his reign extend maybe another five to ten years.
Speaker 4:He want to be the only little star.
Speaker 2:The only one.
Speaker 4:You could at least let a woman get in there. You're a man. At least let a little woman get in there.
Speaker 2:A woman wouldn't have been no dwarf. All the dwarfs are men.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, they are. First of all, they didn't have to be. We change everything about everything. There could have been one or two women dwarves as um one of snow white's little helpers.
Speaker 2:They could have been high hoeing the implications, though, man, like you got two, one or two of them. They're getting passed around yet by the other dwarves like why would that? That's the implication a thought that pops up in your head, but also, too, one of the stories little people getting trains ran on them because that could happen also. Another thing too hold on. Another part of the story. Oh my god, I'm dead ass. Another part of the story I am.
Speaker 4:Another part of the story is the dwarves didn't have women around them, so that's why snow white was enticing they didn't sexually assault her, so I mean, they didn't well, in the disney version, because I think in the originally version they the because you know, the brothers grimes are like where they took these um stories. I think they did actually so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So fully sexually assault and great that lady so I mean, I don't know the accuracy of that statement. I'm gonna do a google while.
Speaker 4:You know, I think, they know, I think they actually did again, because they weren't fairy tales, those were like horror stories.
Speaker 2:They were fables yeah, and stuff, horror stories you should look up a little mermaid one, but no, I mean, that's what I was just saying, like it. The story doesn't make sense if you have a woman dwarf in there. So again, I think that's really nasty of him. If he's doing that for real, I don't think the whole grandstanding, especially in this day and age, for how we're moving forward now let them folks get their money, because you hurting more people than you actually doing good by them trying to salvage the good name of little people Like, let them rock out.
Speaker 4:I was wrong. The dwarves did not grape Snow White. In the original version. She worked as a maid after she sought refuge.
Speaker 2:But my point is that they was enticed by her, though, Like her being a woman and them being some old men in the house together was like as as a narrative device that they were trying to trying to use.
Speaker 4:you still trying to no, because this kind of seems like the regular snow white story. Actually, I might be still right about the.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's move on no, no accuracy here, none at all.
Speaker 4:I don't have enough time. That's why we need a.
Speaker 2:We need a third you need somebody in the back yeah, the google all right. So did you see what happened with juju walkins and jayden daniels?
Speaker 4:I did so I saw. I saw the video of them. They were, um, at a game. I don't know which game they were at, but they were looking real cute. Um. I saw a tweet that said every single tooth between the two of them was showing. They were both smiling.
Speaker 4:They seemed like they were having a uh captivating conversation with the two of them and then his mama thank god so recently, like a couple weeks ago, she um she did an interview saying that her biggest fear was, like her son, being taken advantage by these whores yeah, but now she did this a while ago, a 40-year-old. Bbl bandit snatching up her son. She did not want that. She didn't want Dre getting her claws.
Speaker 2:No, she's been on like a kind of a press tour talking about this and how she's like very protective of him and things of that nature. So that's where it ends up being kind of funny, because the clip ends with her sitting in between him and Juju.
Speaker 4:And then she does a couple of these, and then she's pointing at the camera.
Speaker 2:And Juju's a piss.
Speaker 4:But then I saw another clip from like a little bit after that and her and Juju were like laughing and talking to each other and then the dude is just like sitting there. And then I also saw somewhere else that they might be related to each other.
Speaker 2:I always happen too.
Speaker 4:Which is why she sat in the middle of them.
Speaker 2:So they wouldn't look like they was together. Yeah, that was good, it was funny. We were having a conversation about like would they be a good item? If you know, everything could go through, or whatever, and to me I don't feel like no, I feel like, as his mama, that's a good person to stop that too.
Speaker 4:Even because I saw that she has an ACL injury. She did tear her ACL.
Speaker 2:So, now she might be ready.
Speaker 3:Wipe that up.
Speaker 2:Jaden, this would be a good time again, if it's not your cousin, this is a good time to now come in like, hey, you know, protect her, arm her up, let her get a little chubby. Let her get a little chubby. You think that was funny? Huh, you thought that was funny. You think that was funny. Huh, you thought that was funny. You thought that was cute.
Speaker 4:I did. I thought that was funny. But no, let her get a little chubby, you know, yeah, I'm proud of you, but let her get a little chubby Gain, a little weight.
Speaker 2:She ain't going to want to get back to the hoop, you know. Just keep it easy. I was actually watching something that was talking about women's knees and why they have like injuries so more frequent than men. It was talking about based off this soccer team in Europe where these women were like had like somebody, three or four best players all had ACL injuries in the season and what they was explaining is like girls start sports at a later age than boys most of the time sports at a later age than boys most of the time, and so due to that their ligaments and stuff don't get as tough from playing.
Speaker 2:and you know, because most of the time a girl probably starts sports maybe like eight or nine we putting our daughter if we have one in sports at four her.
Speaker 4:She started on the field she started.
Speaker 2:You know, most people start, you know, kind of older than others. I mean, they'll start older than most boys. Then also they were saying that women usually are either straight legged or bow legged and those don't serve for being very athletic frames no, they don't that's a bow legged yeah, yeah no, knock knee okay often bow leg actually does serve you to be athletic, but straight leg and knock knee women mostly fall into that phenotype and what does knock need actually look like you've seen a girl that's knock me.
Speaker 4:Girls that are knock me are disgusting oh my, they usually like go out or go in like like that that's, or out, that's also a possibility I've I've seen. There were a couple girls in high school that had the the out like if I seen the knock me.
Speaker 2:I would want to throw up every time.
Speaker 4:Look like a fucked up paperclip, oh shit, but no, okay, I'm definitely straight legged, but they were saying that's why women generally, in sports at least are far more common to have ACL injuries.
Speaker 2:Because of that, because of the type of body structure and the fact of how early they start. So women ain't supposed to be playing sports. Biologically gathering that's biologically. That's what it was.
Speaker 4:That's what they were saying here a little, a couple decibels, uh, higher we can see a little bit better. As far as like color variation and shade, like we have, we have our things there's like that's good for the kitchen is good for outside picking berries and fruits and identifying salt and pepper or poison I mean, why would you want to?
Speaker 2:put poison in the food poison the men that doesn't help nothing.
Speaker 3:Poison you specifically doesn't help anything all right, uh, jayden man.
Speaker 2:I think that that could be the look for you, though, is get them. Get them right there. She has some good success. It may not be the same.
Speaker 4:You know, she'll try to, she'll try to monica write it, but she, she ain't gonna get it back, right that sucks so much that I I'm so sad that she has a uh injury because I just started seeing things about her like they were. Like she'd be sitting courtside straight face looking like she bored as hell and then get on the court, drop 50 and then get back on the sidelines and look bored again.
Speaker 2:I like that a lot of people described her like it's gonna be like mjs yeah, man, no, I was really.
Speaker 4:I. I hope there's somebody else I really am excited to see. Oh, another thing too.
Speaker 2:This was another thing that they said no, it's not that, it was just another thing that they added in there was that the surgeries aren't really the same too. Like they don't have the same information on recovery, because a lot of times the women will step away from the sport, because a lot of times the women will step away from the sport so like they'll get hurt and probably find a relationship, you know, start changing their life and no longer keep playing. So there isn't as much or find another passion.
Speaker 2:So there is that too. So there isn't a lot of information to kind of actually ability. I'm saying that too on the recovery time as the same way how they respond to surgery. Just because a lot of women after those surgeries or if they don't take it at all, well, most of them they will they don't come back to the sport, so I thought that was interesting that is interesting because like as a man, you wouldn't have that option.
Speaker 2:Like you have to keep trying to will your body back because, again, as a woman, and being a female woman as an athlete, it's easier to find a nigga that's going to cover the cover, the expenses you said female woman.
Speaker 4:I was about to be like is there a male woman?
Speaker 2:but yes, I guess, don't do that.
Speaker 4:100, don't do that you're supposed to be an ally but no today is um trans trans visibility day also, so shout out to the trans so they definitely.
Speaker 2:They definitely gonna say you part of the agenda because we over here talking about women's sports, and then you bring up the trend. They gonna say you enemy of the state you can't say that young, you can't say okay I'll be forgetting, honestly.
Speaker 4:Honestly, I'm joking. I'm not an enemy of anybody like, but myself, for real, about myself, all right.
Speaker 2:I do want to make notice of this. So Michael Jordan has opened up another free medical clinic in North Carolina, like his fourth one.
Speaker 4:He done invested in so many prisons like his fourth one. He done invested in so many prisons at this point that he is.
Speaker 2:That's no. Yeah, that's not. That's another. That's a white man named michael jordan okay, god damn it. Well, y'all love to fucking throw. Why do niggas love throwing the private prisons on michael jordan?
Speaker 4:because that's a thing that I thought was an accurate thing no, that was a lot that was being pushed for you like I remember when michael, his attitude is a little you think he put a nigga in prison? Yeah, like what's the big ass jeans he was wearing. Gives cop like.
Speaker 2:But see, it's funny that when I remember when that happened, when people were saying, oh, michael jordan was buying a private prison, I remember googling that and never finding anything. And I just it's so crazy to me how people can just see someone say that do no additional research and then just spew it.
Speaker 4:The thing is that when you do google's, it's just a bunch of misinformation, because I think the google's.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about now, but in the moment when because there's so much people flooding it with saying that it is true but if you now, at the moment when it was going on, you could look that up and say I found the white guy.
Speaker 4:I seen his face. When was the initial like?
Speaker 2:I remember saying it's probably like 2013, 14, okay, before that I didn't see this until like maybe 2021, so by the time I googled there was like a bunch of misinformation yeah, and I was like this is true, this nigga is crazy no, actually I actually found the white guy named michael jordan who was doing the private prisons that they tried to put that on okay, that shit was nasty though. But no, ethan thomas, he's a former wizard and he was basically saying like, why is everyone being silent about michael jordan in his you know clinics, but when it come to his son and all this other stuff, they were so loud to have this conversation. Who's? Going on with his son.
Speaker 2:Son was doing ketamine, oh yeah when it was chilling with white women and he was sleeping with his ex, his former teammates uh, ex-wife, that's rich nigga behavior not for your son to be doing that that's rich nigga behavior that shit is not in the public that's.
Speaker 4:I grew up rich and privileged my entire life behavior.
Speaker 2:That's I don't even fuck about my dad. That's what that behavior is privileged, rich kid behavior.
Speaker 4:Nigga out here doing they are the same thing.
Speaker 2:I don't that nigga was bumbling or talking to the police and stuff. It was just. It was sad, man, and to me I would. I would love to be like yeah, folks really do need to voice. You know the highlights and stuff, but that's just a fucking tax write-off. Like free clinics are just tax write-offs for you. You get to write it at, write it off as a loss and you go about your day. So it's like I don't really care that?
Speaker 4:is it actually free, or do you still have to have like a copay?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure about that, but I'm just talking about more what he benefits from it, and that's why I don't like judging people's charity as like the marker of oh, are they doing something good for the community?
Speaker 2:Because you're incentivized to do stuff like that so that you don't pay more in taxes. So like, yeah, it helps the community. But like, are you going to spend more money than that's required of you to keep this running? Because I know that there's a certain mark off that like, hey, we're trying to spend this much and if it goes, over that that's a problem, because at some point it's no longer a loss, right? Or it's no worth being the write-off that it is, because you're spending way more money than it's going to be worth to write off for. Because it's not like an infinite glitch that you get.
Speaker 2:You can only write so much of it off. But that's why I always wonder about that, like, am I a bad person because I don't accept people's charity, that's write-offs or am I a hater for that? Or am I a hater for that, because I feel like charity should be defined off of you sacrificing Like you should come at a sacrifice for your charity if it's valid.
Speaker 4:It's just like you're kind of a hater because you don't know exactly how much money people are putting into each charity and um whether but you know it's a write-off. Well, you know it's a write-off, but you don't know whether they're putting more money than they need to into it or not. Like you have no idea, you're not their accountant, you can't tell, so you automatically so, but I should give it the praise just because it exists you shouldn't automatically give it the praise, but you also should.
Speaker 2:But that's what ethan thomas is saying like everybody's talking about his son fucking up, but nobody's talking about I was gonna say, but then you should also not automatically give it the hate.
Speaker 4:I wasn't done with myself.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'm giving it hate, though I think I'm just justifying why I don't look at people's charity as this honorable, selfless thing that they do, because it's not at the end of the day.
Speaker 4:It depends on the charity, it depends on what level of it you're on, I think. Because, I know people who have charities, like my dad's best friend has Million Trees Haiti and she literally is boots on ground planting trees and trying to change the deforestation um problem in haiti. Every year they go and they plant thousands of trees and they raise money and they do things and I know that is legit. So, knowing that there's probably a bunch of others like small grassroots but are anybody in?
Speaker 2:there, that's worth X amount of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4:No, not at all. That's what I'm saying. This is all like fundraise crowd raise money.
Speaker 2:My point is when we're talking about somebody who's a billionaire, Okay, I don't know billionaires.
Speaker 4:I couldn't speak to that at all. Yeah, Michael Jordan is a billionaire.
Speaker 2:So Michael. Jordan is a billionaire and, yeah, you're doing a good service and putting free clinics and you know disenfranchised neighborhoods and things of that nature, but I just don't think that makes you a hero. If it's not something that you're overall committed to in a way that you are, actually it's a negative to you, like you're losing money.
Speaker 4:What would make him a hero?
Speaker 2:To me, it would have to be you becoming at a negative, like you're funding people to for a bigger movement. Like to be you becoming at a negative. Like you're funding people to for a bigger movement, like if you were to essentially like make a union out there, that would be something out there. If you're funding a union, you're actually funding them in a way that if they needed to strike, they could strike in a real way because they knew that their needs are going to be taken care of. Like that would be something I feel like would be, and that's not something you could write off.
Speaker 4:I think that would be something that would be more of a heroic effort yeah, for me it would be like well, you could write off like community centers and stuff like that but.
Speaker 4:I think that's always amazing for like disenfranchised communities is to have like centers where kids can go after school and do activities, and then also low-income housing where, like people actually have affordable rent and lots of it, like in different states too. Like that's what, if I had a shit ton of money, like I feel like I would probably go in like the major black cities and start low-income housing in every one of the major black cities, like actual low-income housing, like five to like seven hundred dollars cap in rent, and that would actually make a difference. But nobody does that yeah, got me.
Speaker 2:At some point it's gonna put you in the in the red, like it's always. You're gonna either you're gonna have to either continue to earn more and more money so that it can offset it, because again your property price is still gonna go up or raise money for it you know utilities and all that stuff. You can raise money for it too as well I'd be all my rich celebrities donate donate to my shit or you hate the poors.
Speaker 4:They don't care about that, yeah all right.
Speaker 2:So we we gotta address the homophobia back in the black community. It's in full effect man I think we might be have to blame these mega folks, not these folks feel empowered now. I hate to see it in my community. I true, I truly do so there was a video that went out circulated.
Speaker 4:It was a uh homosexual young man and I just don't like how you said homosexual he looked like he was going to it didn't roll off the tongue, you know, in a loving way, never supposed to do that it was.
Speaker 2:It's never supposed. Never to roll off the tongue, my guy, but no, uh the your guy I said my guy, I was talking I'm just talking trash to you. But uh, he was walking. I mean he was, you know, had his look like a suit dress, a purple suit dress. He looked like willie wonka first it was.
Speaker 4:It was like a long pea coat he looked like willy this is why you're not allowed to talk about fashion ever, because you don't even know names of things so willy wonka was there, and then his pops.
Speaker 2:Uh, strong black man stood beside him looking like uh, you know when?
Speaker 4:when shawty ate the purple thing let's address this person as they right now, because we don't know what they, what their pronouns are. They said he was crying. I'm gonna assume.
Speaker 2:I'm playing a video now.
Speaker 4:They said he, the people in the video, addressed him as he Addressed them, as he I just want to tread lightly Let him fall.
Speaker 6:Let him fall, poor baby my son Okay period Then continue.
Speaker 4:Based off of the pronouns they were using in the video, the people that known him. They were using he, him, they, him pronouns.
Speaker 2:So little mini EJ over here was giving it up and he was excited that his daddy was accepting him as the queer man he is and I'm happy for that. That didn't. I don't see how beautiful. I don't see how you can see that. And then you feel like, oh, I need to shit on this my question was was he just like?
Speaker 4:because the video I saw it said that the dad was taking him to prom, which I think a parent taking their child to prom is always weird. But was he just like escorting him to prom?
Speaker 2:That was his date.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't like that, regardless of what you do?
Speaker 2:You never see anybody who took his aunt or his grandma to the prom with him.
Speaker 4:No, I think that's weird.
Speaker 2:Well, generally that kid is weird, nobody wants to go with him. That's why he went with his aunt. Oh well, yeah Fair and looking at where this is. He probably like a suburb, probably, like you know, decent middle class.
Speaker 4:I'm looking at the garage size and things of that nature and then gay men who are like more feminine presenting, especially if you do like makeup and wigs and stuff. Like it's harder for you to fit in a box, and I especially younger, yeah, and no, regardless of like your age. I think gay men who present like this person does they they usually have a harder time finding love and stuff like that. Like I think I've heard like Santana talk about it because of like how he presents, like people don't people like Butch or they like so should we read some of the disheartening comments.
Speaker 4:You couldn't read the ones that will lead to like good conversation, but I don't want to read the ones that are just like ugly, just for the sake of hate. Are all of them that?
Speaker 2:are all of them that? So we gay because our dad's not in our life but when they in our lives, the is a failure. Y'all be straight with no daddies or have daddies and still end up in jail. Make it make sense okay imagine thinking your child's sexuality determines their success or intelligence period but. But then the person who was from the original post said that's what your little zesty ass get. Find something better to do with your son regardless, you can't take a dick. You can't take a joke.
Speaker 4:Make it make sense regardless of how, how well you present something it don't matter on the internet at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these folks was going crazy though.
Speaker 4:Okay, so are most of them just ugly comments? Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:Like this post is either saying like oh, this is wrong yeah you're wrong. And then the person who's Is shameful. Who posted this is like oh, you Like, that's what the niggas, that's like the consensus.
Speaker 4:The person who posted it. Is it the son or is it the father, or is it just a third?
Speaker 2:this is just a third party who's just like I'm gonna trash this because the original post says let me see. It says find something else to do with your son.
Speaker 4:That's not funny that was crazy because, that's what your son is doing. So that's what that's what you're doing, period, like what. So, um, this reminds me of another situation that was going on on twitter or surrounding like kind of the same thing. So there was, um, a black gay couple who posted a video, a photo, with their daughter and then, um, people were a little bit upset about it. But this queen, queen okay, her name on Twitter is Kunta Kunti, like Kunta Kunti, but Kunta Kunti, oh my God, girl, I want to be friends with you. So bad if you're of age, if you're at least like 27. She said. And then she said a lot of y'all have zero fathers, so I understand why seeing someone have two of them may trigger y'all. I saw that early in the day. I said you ate because these niggas don't be having dads, and we make that joke all the time yeah because we have dads, solid parental units okay privilege and it's a good joke.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a great joke to get on you niggas don't be having dads for real, like where's your father call him and be the main ones. Want to push masculinity too we know we can go dad, for dad you can't find yours.
Speaker 2:You learn how to be a man from your mama, but you over here want to push masculinity on everybody else okay, you don't even know what that's about at all.
Speaker 4:That was one of my things is my husband had to have a dad, um, so there was a lot of black men replying, obviously because, uh, black people hate homosexuals and you can't say it like that.
Speaker 4:No, can't just paint us, paint everybody like that I think that's what I'm gonna say and I think I'm gonna. You need to leave that in. Um, she, she was in the comments flaming people like uh, this dude said this is what's wrong. Everyone knows it's God. Everyone knows God didn't make Adam and Steve. And then she said um, you can't, I, we're gonna put we're. Maybe we should put this picture up because it makes more sense with this. She said oh, I'm surprised you think like this because you, if you would ask me, I would have thought you wanted Adam and Steve, his braids, not okay not okay at all.
Speaker 4:And then there was another one. Somebody said which one of them gave birth, though, and she said you came out of your mother's womb ass first, and you still grew up to be a bitch-ass loser. So what does that really matter, girl?
Speaker 2:come out ass first, though will like damage your brain, so and it damaged his brain.
Speaker 4:And then there was this was my favorite and this is the one I'm gonna end on. This dude said you really tried to justify this nonsense. She replied I can tell from your septum piercing that you're gay. So I would think that you, you would be more progressive. He says I'm gay because I have a, because I have the piercing, because you're gay.
Speaker 4:Girl, you was eating like I followed her because what I love her like, she's my type of girl 100. A woman who very swiftly and without effort terrorizes men on a regular basis is my type of bitch 100. So yeah, I want us to be besties again.
Speaker 2:I I don't understand why folks just feel this so strong vigor about this. Like what is this like? When I ask people about to explain this, they can never say anything and then they start just like spouting off like religious bullshit that y'all don't even believe, like that's why it's just so funny knowing the bible for real.
Speaker 2:I mean, of course they don't. They just know that this makes them feel like that's the thing that it irks me, because the truth is is you all just want something that feel make you feel like you're better than someone else, and when you can pick out things like homosexuality and things that you're not in control of, you just use that as a tool because probably deep down inside, you maybe want to explore something.
Speaker 4:You're limiting yourself just go get some dick and stop terrorizing everybody else go call pat mcafee.
Speaker 2:He'll tell you how to ride some dick man. You'll get yourself comfortable call back but no, was there any more tweets? You wanted to read off on that, or was you good?
Speaker 4:um, I think I'm, I, that's, that's the one I wanted to. To end off on yeah, because that was the best one. Honestly, when she said um, when she said that those were, she had a lot, she had a lot of good, good um replies though.
Speaker 2:see, but the thing about them kind of people is like when you dig through their timeline you find out like they be divesters and they be calling like niggas, bullet bags and shit, and then they be like that shit ain't cool.
Speaker 4:I remember that lady. Did she do something else? No, there's other girls who be.
Speaker 2:You just type in bullet bags and see all the women calling niggas that, that that's easy work.
Speaker 4:I think that's a different level of um?
Speaker 2:no, those be the same. Those be two sides of the same coin. No, I think the hyper supportive.
Speaker 4:I think that's a different level of man hate when you're calling black men bullet bags in general and you're completely ignoring, like, all of the reasons why they're disenfranchised or committing crimes or, um, being gunned down by police, and you're just ignoring all of that and making fun of the fact that they're being gunned down, like that's a. That's a very cynical view and I think that's a very small percentage of black women and I hate. I hate that. That's like the loudest to you niggas, just like how the black men who don't like black women and who talk about white women, loving white women all the time, are the loudest to black women.
Speaker 2:Type in that girl at name and then put bullet bag. Put bullet bag next to it. See what happens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but that's just like the black women who are still on Twitter. I don't know what her name is.
Speaker 2:Oh, cunty cunty. You, just the black women who are still on twitter. Well, I don't know what her name is. Oh, cunty, cunty. You just followed her. Oh her name, yeah, okay, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Let's put her name there and then put put bullet bag and let's see. Let's see what happens. You know, the crazy thing is, after I scrolled for mad long trying to find it, I go on my for you page. It's the first fucking thing like that's. That's probably because I just followed her. Yeah, I'm finding she just be flaming niggas in general. In 2024 she said a nigga dressed like the dj from yo gaba gaba can't talk to nobody. And look at him he really he really yo she be flaming niggas.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you made me do this because how did, how did bullet bags bring up all this?
Speaker 4:I don't know, maybe gaba the gab in the gaba gaba, but yeah she, my pussy tighter than a new york nigga after an argument like she just she just be saying random shit, there's nothing. There's nothing about all right your knees are two steps away from buckling. And you talk about, and you talking shit about a girl. They don't even make babe shirts that big, you goofy bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah she, she has a history of flaming niggas so, just so just be sure, did you search bullet bags in her name?
Speaker 4:yeah, I went to her profile, typed in search, typed in bullet bag, and then the only thing that popped up was her flaming niggas who had to have bag.
Speaker 2:She probably smart.
Speaker 4:She probably just put like the at sign instead of bags or she's like me and she loves black men but she hates stupid niggas nah, you got a bullet bag in your, in your.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I've never said a bullet bag in my life. You definitely got a bullet bag somewhere in your thread I will.
Speaker 4:You want to bet money right now?
Speaker 2:300. What's that gonna do? Sir 300 I'm not betting you 300, so so I can hear you calling black men no, no, so you cannot hear that.
Speaker 4:That should already just be an understood thing he didn't take that bet because he knows he's wrong and he didn't want to take that. Take the bet.
Speaker 2:Not taking no bet. You didn't know what a bill of back was until I told you what it was like a year ago.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, because that's not my rhetoric at all.
Speaker 2:That's how you know. That's not in my shit. That's why I know I'm talking shit. Yeah, I want to put some money behind.
Speaker 4:Well, I guess the equivalent is probably like something that's like sexual assault related, I would think on your like.
Speaker 2:If no, I'm saying like the opposite of a bullet bag, for like the black woman, like a punching bag or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 4:Or like bed winch.
Speaker 2:But bed winch is more like you sleeping with the master.
Speaker 4:I feel like bed winch is probably one of the worst things you can call a black woman, but that's, that's probably a personal thing for me, but that's what you would call them if they dated a white man A bed wench. Yeah, you don't call them that, I'm saying that's.
Speaker 2:Oh, just as the worst insult you could ever be called. Yeah, like it's equivalent to bullet bag is bed wench for you. Yeah, I just feel like don't tell me I'll be fucking white men, because see to me, I feel like bullet bag has. Look at this, deciphering the slurs on the internet I feel like bullet bag has a more transcending definition to it to me, bullet bag just means victim of police brutality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying but you could just say like a nigga, that's what you just use for to be shot up on. But you call somebody a bad one.
Speaker 4:She has to be doing something particularly that's what you're just used on is your body by white men. I think it is kind of equivalent Black bodies being used, black men's bodies being used for target practice and black women's bodies being used for sexual gratification but.
Speaker 2:I'm saying like she has to be fucking I ate that I'm saying she has to be fucking a white man though. That's the, that's the point though yeah a black cop can shoot a a black man, he's still a butt bag. That's my point he is it doesn't feel.
Speaker 4:That's why I say it doesn't feel like we don't be open arms about the black cops as much as the white cops, though, so I'm still gonna be doing crazy shit.
Speaker 2:So you remember them.
Speaker 4:Five black cops, yeah yeah, you 100, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna stick to my thing. I think that's a good equivalent. I think it's a good enough equivalent all right, so let's get into ironheart.
Speaker 2:So you are you familiar with ironheart? You remember we watched her in black panther 2 yeah, so she was.
Speaker 4:She's iron man's replacement.
Speaker 2:Basically right, and she's supposed to be smarter than him more so in the comics she is that she is more so in the comics she's his replacement than she is in marvel the movies okay, she's more so just someone who's has a similar fascination for the technology like he does she's smarter than him, though, right uh, in the comic books it's yeah well everything that I'm gonna be in the comics because they haven't made the movie yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the movie, Well, she's been in one movie, but they haven't elaborated on her character, so they dropped, like some still shots because, her show on Disney Plus is coming out June 24th and discussing films, which is known for, you know, doing this. The comments got so bad that they had to stop people. Stop allowing people to comment on the post like folks were really.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to see if I can find some here people are really like comfortable being blatantly racist now, like all on the internet I mean in their mind they're not being racist anymore, they're just protecting their culture.
Speaker 2:So how many millions of dollars?
Speaker 4:will you? That's crazy, because white people don't have culture.
Speaker 2:So this is alpha fox. How many millions of dollars will you pour down the toilet until you realize nobody wants these gay di superheroes more like super zeros?
Speaker 4:is she gay? Okay, you know oh you I mean di would be what she falls under my bad.
Speaker 2:They even had the person who owns the page had to go on his personal page to be like yo, like y'all gotta relax because the hate was just so. It was just it, was it got bad a lot of places. I'm trying to see if I can find the ones where it got really, really bad. But folks is they are more like you said up front regarding, like, if they see it and it don't even matter if this is a race swap or a new, like the fact that they see a black face in any of these promotions, any of these superheroes that's coming out, it's automatically a negative yeah like it's not even given a chance to be anything they just want all white everything they say we can't have.
Speaker 2:They say oh, you take our characters. So when they bring a character that's new in the comics, that is black, oh no, y'all not just doing dei characters y'all just she was black in her inception and everything right.
Speaker 4:Like this is a black character that they're just introducing in the time that she would be introduced. Y'all are just mad about seeing black people and that's why your voices don't matter and they shouldn't be heard, I mean when it comes to just this.
Speaker 2:The criticism that you hear these people talk about with this shit is fiction, like it's different when a character has roots, because they'll try to say like, oh, what have we made black panther white? Like black panther has roots in africa, like his character was an african character it's not our fault.
Speaker 2:When y'all wrote for y'all crackers back in the day, when it was like nobody was going to pay for y'all to make black characters, when y'all wrote for y'all white characters, y'all were writing for a wide audience, so you made these people not be all the time. Be like sometimes. They were jewish sometimes, but you didn't make that cultural specificity?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was not a part of that character because you were trying to sell them to the masses. Yeah, so because of your greed at the time, you did not make that an important part of the character because, honestly, it historically has never had to be something you recognize or been important to yeah, if y'all made any of these characters specifically like german or swedish or this or that, then it would make sense to keep them white, because those are overwhelmingly white areas.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I didn't do that and the and the jewish guys that made a lot of these characters. If they wanted that character to be jewish, they did specific things to show, because even then that character got shunned. So they're upset about what's going on currently, even though what's going on currently is a reflection of their racism of the past, because even stan lee said he wished he could have made characters of different variety, but that was. They were told that wasn't going to sell on the comics. The white people didn't want to buy people of color in their, in their materials yeah, like it was only white people buying stuff so it's just, it's disgusting to see that when anybody gets and talks about this, they be acting like these are historical figures.
Speaker 2:And even when they do that to the historical figures, like they make the the king of england black and gay and disabled. You see, when they did that on the netflix show one of netflix show they did that they made the king of england uh, black andengaged, disabled or whatever. But like that should be fiction, that should be like folks.
Speaker 2:That's the point of what they were doing yeah, it's like a shonda rhimes show, yeah, like I'm playing with this idea, in this imagery of race and what it means historically to tell this story, and it's like these dense people don't understand. If you want white shows, there are tons of them so many this idea that there's like a not enough white shows, not enough imageries of men, like it's a fucking lie. It is bs.
Speaker 4:You know what that reminds me of. I don't know if you know who brett monrock is, but he's a very famous influencer and has been for a long time. He lives in hawaii. He's like a of pacific island descent. There was this one interview that he did and he was like I never got that. Like my standard of beauty isn't the correct one or isn't being affirmed, because my mother was only playing, I think, filipino, because that's where he's from, I think, like Filipino TV on, like I only saw content from my people.
Speaker 4:I was only saw content from my people, I was only watching content from my people. So, like, whenever he heard that like he wasn't included, he was like, just turn the TV off, change it, change it to you, change it to what looks like you, because it's there and it's available. And I, I do kind of feel the same way, because you can just change it. If you don't like diversity, go find everything else that doesn't have it, because, like, this is a fairly a new thing no, I mean to me.
Speaker 2:I think what a lot of people they get hung up on is. They get caught into the movies that I have high have, but high budgets and movies that have particular messages. So they get pushed for those reasons and they focus on that, but they don't go in. If you go and look at all the movies that are coming out, you look at everything from just the big studios to the smaller studios. You go on all the streaming sites. There's tons of content that still reaffirms traditional heteronormative ideals.
Speaker 4:There are tons of stuff that re still reaffirms traditional, uh heteronormative, ideals.
Speaker 2:They are tons of stuff that standards white beauty, like these things have not gone away.
Speaker 4:No, they never will. And they, they're.
Speaker 2:They're the overwhelming majority of what we're getting fed still and so just for us to still be in a particular in this place where it's about to be a whole movie called thunderbolts, and almost everybody in that movie is white or almost appears white and nobody's saying anything crazy about.
Speaker 2:No one said, oh, look at all these white people, oh, isn't this movie's full of white. No one's saying that they let it cook. We have had the token negro. Uh, stereo, not stereotype, but uh, character. That token negro character has been a thing for years. Yeah, they made fun of it and not another teen movie. And so now that we're still at this point where they're highlighting a black woman for a role that is made for a black woman, it's just stupid to see that there is no pleasing y'all yeah, not at all, and y'all just hate black women and you shouldn't be taken into consideration at all it's crazy when it comes into like making things like this I mean.
Speaker 2:But these people, they feel like they have this big voice because it's their dollar, but at the same day they're going to spend it.
Speaker 4:It's my dollar too, and I'm gonna go spend it, but they're gonna spend it on this too.
Speaker 2:That's the one part about it. They're gonna spend on this so they can talk shit about it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're gonna go hate watch it, so shut the fuck up so we got a few more things to go over.
Speaker 2:In regards to the marvel, I want to stay on, because they did release the cast for doomsday, and so what they did was, instead of just like dropping a normal- list what they did was they had a stream that was going on all day and every like 15 minutes they introduced a new name uh-huh, so they went down the line and show.
Speaker 2:Basically it was like the back of their seats, and so they did one for ant-man. That was like a little one, like a little uh seat, and then they did pretty much everywhere and it ends on robert downey jr who's in the room and like he smiles or whatever at the camera. Well, he's going to be doomed in this movie.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I forgot. What do you think about Marvel getting the same actor to do a different character? I think it's when they have enough money to get anybody else.
Speaker 2:Well, because they happen to feel like they didn't actually give this an opportunity to really breathe. If you look at all the movies, this doesn't lead to one uh narrative ending like the other one did, because they they had the stones, so the stones, in a way, could make it easier to flow to this narrative. They don't have that here and they never really took a true through line because they let go of the Kang shit, so it's they kind of have to do it and in this way, like I said, I feel like it's going to fall flat just because the work hasn't been done. But they're trying to basically have the, the person who was the hero of the last arc, be the villain of this arc, and that's a common trope in like media like they do that in all sorts of stuff, like you can go through.
Speaker 2:Every superman has a opposite, flash has an opposite. Yeah, goku, so you can go down and see, there's always a reverse. Yeah, they look just like each other and all that. So I want to go through the people who were cast and then. So we got paul rudd he was Ant-Man. Samir Lu, he's going to be Shang-Chi. Tom Hiddleston. Loki Lewis Pullman Sentry he's a new character. Florence Pugh she's going to be Yelena Danny Ramirez. Falcon Ian McKellar so that was the dude who played Magneto back in the old movies.
Speaker 4:Florence Pugh Is she, pew is she that's a.
Speaker 2:That's what we talked about. No, she's a black widow black widow oh uh, sebastian stans, bucky, winston duke and baku. Chris hemsworth is coming back as thor kelsey grammar, so he's gonna be the one from the x-men again. He's gonna be beast. Uh, james morrison is gonna be cyclops again.
Speaker 4:That's a big one x-men is what I meant when I said florence pew. I thought she was in one of those movies before. No, she's never.
Speaker 2:She's Black Widow okay, but. I think that's gonna be the big one with Cyclops, because Cyclops got hold in a lot of the X-Men movies.
Speaker 4:Um, then we got Channing Tatum's gonna be Gambit why, why Russell was coming back as uh, I didn't enjoy that much Channing Tatum's um and Tatum's um yeah, as Gambit, but then when I went back, and. I listened to people from like that area and how they actually talk. I was like yo, this is how they talk and he actually did a fantastic job, so it changed my mind about that, so I'm glad he's back as Gambit he definitely sound like that dude from Louisiana that'd be cooking on the black stove with his son he sounds like a white louisiana, like french, like northern type of like person, which is what they sound like.
Speaker 2:So so they're gonna have why russell is us agent. I don't know how I feel about that us agent.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's the dude from I've never heard of that yes we have.
Speaker 2:We seen him, falcon winter soldier. He was a dude with, uh with them us agent yeah, he uh why russell? He's gonna be in the thunderbolt movies. You know who kurt russell is? Right, the actor kurt russell no oh, that's, this is his son. Why russell? But the reason I don't like this is because us agent is he's kind of in most is that like a like an anti? What us agent captain? Yeah, he's like an opposite-Captain America. Yeah, he's like an opposite Captain America.
Speaker 4:Okay, so evil Captain America, Essentially Well he's more so government-controlled Captain America.
Speaker 2:But the reason why I don't like that he's in here is because the reason why I don't like him being in this movie and getting kind of the position he's been getting in Marvel is because US Agent is kind of like a side character. He has his moments here and there, but I feel like they're doing that because of anthony mackie and how his reception has been with captain america like let's bring in a white captain.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let's have both of them here, just in case. Um, you know, you have sebastian staying as bucky. If you want to bring in somebody interesting, bring in brother voodoo. That's fucking marvel, right. Bring the Haitian man in. God damn it. That's a very interesting story, not just because I'm Haitian, but because it's interesting.
Speaker 2:I think one of the movies just hired a Haitian actor.
Speaker 4:Not a Haitian actor. I want a Haitian story. There is a Haitian actor who has been hired by Marvel. I forgot.
Speaker 2:Let me finish up this list. Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm list uh, vanessa kirby as sue storm. Rebecca roe minge, as I think I know I said that wrong uh, mystique. Patrick stewart as professor x. Alan cummings as nightcrawler. Leticia wright as black panther. You better be glad they brought you back after y'all that crazy shit you was doing yeah, she was showing her ass.
Speaker 4:I was hoping that they would just switch it to her, to black panther's son in haiti again, real quick. But I'm not even about to try to rock coogler, please you touch, you touch a little bit of the haiti. I need a little bit more of it to knock.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying the rest of his name, he's playing namor pedro.
Speaker 4:Pascal is reed richards that's anti, whatever it is, anti-latin American yeah.
Speaker 2:Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost, joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm, david Harburn as Red Guardian, robert Downey Jr as Dr Doom, eben Moss Barak as the Thing and Anthony Mackie as Captain America. So there were some people that were missing, like Chris Evans, mark Ruffalo, chris Pratt, benedict Cumberbatch, benedict Wong, jeremy Renner, tom Hollins wasn't announced Tessa Thompson.
Speaker 4:Brie Larson, Samuel L Jackson, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2:Olsen, let's see who else. But this is, is this for?
Speaker 4:Oh, tiana Parr, tiana parish. Monica rambo, she wasn't in. There. Is this for the next phase.
Speaker 2:Well, this is gonna be the next movie that's gonna come out. Okay, the next avengers movie coming out?
Speaker 4:okay, that's fine if not everybody isn't.
Speaker 2:Not everyone is in every avengers movie no, I mean generally not, but they'll you would think that, like fucking shield, like um, would be the agent um talking about, uh, nick fury, yeah fury. Yeah, he wasn't announced, but I mean, that is you should probably be in every avengers movie just because they don't announce them doesn't necessarily mean they're going to not be in it, but it's just interesting, like they didn't have people who was playing a walk, the girl who played a wasp, evelyn lily paul nobody cares about that.
Speaker 4:I mean these, just people. And then also I. I feel like you probably don't need to announce samuel jackson specifically in a avengers movie, because it makes sense that he would be in every single one no, they announced him in the last time. They did all the big movies they've always announced him okay he's generally a big part of the movie I just go see the movie, I don't do their devil wasn't announced either.
Speaker 2:So, like I said, there was a lot of people who who weren't in this. They might be in the secret wars movie, so we'll see that happens. But uh, one person did highlight the lack of black actors in this. There's only three black actors. It's the black panther people and anthony mackie, and I did see somebody I was following saying like yo, they really showing how they care about the black actors, because out of all of the x-men people, you know who was missing who storm but did you not read out storm's name in that?
Speaker 2:no, Halle Berry did not get called back, nor did the other girl who played storm oh okay, I thought you said storm no storm in the early like ghost, ghost okay, that's probably what I heard storm is oh, I said johnny storm and sue storm.
Speaker 4:Those are uh fantastic four characters, okay, so okay yeah, storm would be a great character to bring back. I don't know why she she's powerful as fuck. She definitely is popular, so I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 2:And then also, who just talked about not marvel falling under the the dei bullshit I just, I just thought it was important to pour that out because of all the names that I read off uh, the overarching majority were caucasian or some form of white. And just to prove the point where it's like y'all are not going anywhere, y'all never were the movie that's getting the most money.
Speaker 4:Y'all eventually are because your population is dying down, because y'all women keep fucking black men. That's what y'all are saying on the internet. You're going to get them scared On the right side, you're going to get them scared. You know, like y'all were always a very small population to begin with, and the more the white women intermingle with the rest of the colors, the white population is dwindling. Y'all are becoming a minority in the world.
Speaker 2:But y'all are becoming a minority in the world, but y'all were always a minority in the world. I didn't want people to know that. Let's continue. I guess we got them all right. So, uh, are you familiar with harry?
Speaker 4:sisson. I was not familiar with him until the the recent drama that he's gotten into, yeah, so he's kind of like.
Speaker 2:He looks like when you were like in high school or college, the dudes who were the young republicans like that's how he looks, like he would pull up at the young republican meeting but apparently that's exactly what there's a group of these guys that are kind of like these twink looking white guys.
Speaker 2:It's like him, uh, dean and parker, and they're all like really left democrat guys. But for at least I know for parker and dean there used to be trump supporters growing up, like in high school, and then they went to college and then became democrat supporters.
Speaker 2:But got some sense after they got some education according to some, some women that have you know been speaking out against Harry Eleven specifically, they've said that he was out there basically coercing them to send them photos, those photos being revealing photos Is nudes, a word we can't say. We can't. I'm just trying to act like I know bigger words, just trying to sound more professional.
Speaker 4:My bad. I stepped on the sauce.
Speaker 2:That's what you do, sauce stepper. But no, they were trying to say, basically he was finessing him, like he was telling them that he wasn't seeing anybody, that you know it was just them, and these women would send him pictures, and apparently folks got upset. I don't, I don't understand why.
Speaker 4:So I saw that this, this man's name had scandal next to it and I looked into it to see what was going on.
Speaker 4:And apparently he just sweet talked women into sending him nudes and then made the women think that they were in exclusive relationships and then changed his mind after Not even allegedly allegedly changed his mind after not even allegedly allegedly changed his mind afterwards and was like I told you that I never wanted anything serious, so like that was your fault in the first place. Why is this news? Like there, there's so many like every woman watching this maybe I can't even say that every woman, but like a lot of women watching this have come across like a guy who just lied to get what he wanted in the first place. Like that's a very common occurrence, that's a canon event for us as women. Like that's something that you cannot disturb.
Speaker 4:Like that lesson must be learned and regardless of the fact that he did this to 11 other women and people are calling this predatory, which it is slightly but predatory is excessive I would like to kind of discern and draw the line between somebody being a dick, being a jerk, being an asshole, and somebody being a predator, because they are two very different things.
Speaker 4:Because there are screenshots of of these conversations of him, him saying that, like I told you that I never wanted anything serious, just because a nigga says wifey material does not mean that he literally wants to put a ring on your finger like men should not lie to coerce you into revealing yourself into sexual things at all. But at the same time, like as a grown-ass woman who every, every single one of these these people were of age, as somebody who was of age is, it's up to me as a woman to use my discernment to know who I can and cannot send nudes to. In some of these situations it was six months of them talking before the woman sent the nude. Like I don't at that point.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know. Let's just be honest. Man, Y'all wanted to. Y'all was. Y'all felt entitled to this. Man, Y'all got played and now y'all wanted to y'all was. We all felt entitled to this. Man, y'all got played and now y'all upset like that's the only thing that that's just come down. That's exactly what it is. That's because the nigga didn't do nothing. He ain't fucked nothing that's what.
Speaker 4:That's exactly what he said too. He said that he got nudes he got nudes from y'all and then also I was like did this man post the nudes? Did he expose these women? And he didn't. He got nudes off the strength that y'all thought y'all was his girlfriend, and then he never did anything and then y'all were mad. So then now this is like why are we talking about this at all?
Speaker 5:I want to talk openly and honestly about this entire controversy that has he looks like a loaded in the past week. First First and foremost I should have told the people I was talking to that there were other people, but that's not illegal and of course I regret that decision and I've reflected on it a lot and I'm learning and going to be better in the future. Now, what I will say is that this entire situation has been blown wildly out of proportion by MAGA Republicans to further their political agenda.
Speaker 4:We all know that they don't actually care about this.
Speaker 5:They just hate me. That's why they care. I mean when has MAGA ever cared?
Speaker 8:about women Also.
Speaker 5:MAGA has been spreading misinformation about the situation. So I want to set the record straight, I was not in a relationship with anyone, I wasn't exclusive with anyone. I never met anybody in person, I never spoke to anybody on the phone, and it was done among consensual adults, that's it.
Speaker 5:It was a very casual thing. Additionally, we as Democrats have to get better at recognizing someone who makes a mistake and can learn from that mistake, and someone who does actual harm to a community. We cannot, as a party, just attack and demonize people who make mistakes, people who are learning from their actions. If we ever want to hold office ever again and actually win an election, our umbrella should be as wide as possible and we shouldn't be trying to silence people or push people away who are vocal on these issues. This is that people involved in this situation released my private text messages, private photos of me, intimate details about me that intended to stay private, without my knowledge or consent. I didn't consent to any of that a complete violation of my privacy and I think that, regardless of your political beliefs, you can agree that that's wrong. I certainly wouldn't do that to somebody, and I know you wouldn wouldn't either.
Speaker 2:One thing I'm particularly proud of my generation for doing is he just starts to do some you know platitude doing what he does one point I do want to kind of discuss that he said, though, where he talked about democrats being so quick. All right, I guess more so people on the left being so quick to demonize, because I said earlier like he was really cool with these dudes named parker and dean and parker and dean. They are both, you know, content creators on tiktok and youtube, which they use the platform to debate maga uh supporters, and they'll go on there, probably like you know, three or four times a week.
Speaker 2:They'll collect donations and debate maga people, so, on one of his recent lives and this is the thing about the thing about these twink guys, man, they, you can't trust them like I don't understand how they could take this point, because him and Dean both had this point. I thought it was really lame, but I'm gonna let Dean speak for himself. I did, did. How old are you 19. And why'd you vote for Trump?
Speaker 9:I'm just a little bit upset because I do love like y'all's group and I just feel like we've given everybody, gave you a chance to you know, change.
Speaker 14:So can't you give your friends a chance to change and not just quit on them? Okay, so we're going to go ahead and just debunk the first part of what you said. So you said basically, because harry stayed friends with me, although I got exposed for saying the n-word. I must stay friends with him no matter what he does. Basically, if he scratches my back, I must scratch his back.
Speaker 9:I just mean don't you think he should get an opportunity to change?
Speaker 14:And under any and all circumstances, and I think that that logic is so fucking annoying and like honestly, bullshit too, like, literally, like whatever he does doesn't even matter to you, because you just think it's hypocritical. Since he scratched my back, I must scratch his, like realistically, if this were to yeah, I was.
Speaker 4:I was tired of listening to that hey.
Speaker 2:I'm be honest, dean, I feel like you hating on Harry because he got a better jawline than you, and I think that's why you really being like this and that's really some lame shit. You on dog. Do some lymphatic drainage you know, I mean he got a baby face. I don't think he could ever get that kind of jaw that Harry got. Harry got that like. I'm going to steal your whole fucking life savings jaw Pause.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because you talk about another man's jaw and I really was hoping that you'd pause that afterwards.
Speaker 2:I'm comfortable with my sexuality and I really was hoping that you paused that afterwards. I'm comfortable with my sexuality. I don't have to allow that to be a thing. That's just what I'm on.
Speaker 4:I don't got to care about that, okay, but also I'm from New York, so you have to pause things after you say wildly homosexual things.
Speaker 2:No dog, it's just part of the culture. I seen the video. He told me I ain't got to do that no more. He freed me from my jacket. Who was he? From new york?
Speaker 4:no, I'm kidding I got a clip by me.
Speaker 3:I got liked one of his videos you don't need to find it, it's okay, I'm talking about paul, it's.
Speaker 2:It's really okay. Let's hate, all right. So your girl, jasmine crockett, is back in the news after she. She really violated bruh. Uh, she was at a human's right campaign and she had this to say about uh, texas governor abbott we in these hot ass texas streets, honey, um, y'all know we got governor hot wheels down there.
Speaker 9:Come on now and and the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot ass mess, honey.
Speaker 2:So, um, so, yes, yes, yes, yes yeah so if you don't get that joke, uh, governor abbott is in a wheelchair, so he is disabled, and so she was calling him hot wheels I didn't know that, I just knew he was a shitty governor so everybody has been um, girl, this isn't.
Speaker 4:Maybe, maybe this isn't. The joke is you should have made.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm saying people have been having issues with this, like a lot of different pages have been like oh, it's not cool to make fun of somebody with a disability and you know what's wrong and you know I agree with that you know I agree so much. I want to see what another person who has an even higher position in the government would say about somebody who has a disability.
Speaker 8:Written by a nice reporter. Now, the poor guy. You got to see this guy.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 8:I don't know what I said. I don't remember. He's going like. I don't remember.
Speaker 15:Oh, maybe that's what I said. It was 14 years ago. He still they didn't do a retraction.
Speaker 2:So that was trump making fun of a disabled journalist, and I'm gonna put the the screenshot here in front of y'all so y'all, y'all can see the uh hand gestures that he made in reference to this disabled journalist so this is why it's tough for me to be able to say let's, let's have a consistent.
Speaker 2:You know discussion here about how a politician should conduct themselves and the words you should use when you're discussing someone who has a disability. And if the president of the united states can do that, why can't anyone else underneath him do it?
Speaker 4:because they have less power and less influence.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about if, the if the ability, uh, if the, if you're able to do that, if you're able to criticize them, who cares? The president did it? Fuck it that. Everybody, they all are.
Speaker 2:These are branches of the government these are the branches of the government. Not one is greater than the other. So no, like I'm not, I'm not gonna ride with that. If the president want to make fun of disabled people, we're not gonna be sitting here now calling out shots of people who are doing it as governor abbott been in a wheelchair the whole time.
Speaker 4:He's been letting texas's pipes burst open and all this crazy stuff that's been going on in texas I'm pretty sure this is. I'm surprised that this is the first time I've heard somebody made fun of him because of that well, I mean that usually is a tasteless thing to do, but regardless, the internet is a very tasteless place. Oh, you never seen people on the internet? Do that?
Speaker 2:no, oh, you just on the wrong sites there. I thought you were saying somebody in politics doing it.
Speaker 4:No, I've I've never seen anybody making disparaging comments about like his politics attached to the fact that he's handicapped oh for sure, I've seen that.
Speaker 2:Uh, there's another dude named dan crenshaw poke. Make fun of him because he got an eye patch. It's a lot of folks. They'd be going crazy on these folks. You just don't be in the right circles. You just you don't hit comment enough. You don't hit the the comment section enough I don't hit the comment section on twitter.
Speaker 4:The only place I hit the comment section on is tiktok, because it's always hilarious. Everywhere else I'm scrolling right past.
Speaker 2:I don't care what's happening and what you guys think I will say this though jasmine, you better be careful because they on your ass, they, they mad about you. Talking about tesla, elon don't like this colored woman going on stages calling him child. He not gonna be too many of your child, I promise you.
Speaker 4:You better stop playing with them, boys speaking of tesla, kim kardashian just did another fucking photo shoot with her tesla and then her tesla robot, and now everyone thinks that she's talking about that no another oh, she did no whole new one yeah, like after the parking, the tesla lawn, the the Tesla trucks on the White House lawn thing, like she did it after that.
Speaker 4:So there was another one that she did with the Tesla robot in the Tesla truck and then she was like leaning in a beach chair, whatever, and then everyone was like, obviously she's in bed with Elon Musk, so they're calling for a boycott of fucking Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 2:But every time they call for that it doesn't work, because you bitches don't have, don't stand on nothing, for real nothing they would be kind of like a dope little power couple, though, because like he would be the the technological side and the blind items say that kim kardashian has been the third for jeff bezos and his wife for a while now I can see that I could definitely see her being like, because it's like having a younger version of the girl that you have right there, like the, the one that he already with it's like if he could put her back in like mint, condition that she'd look like kim yeah
Speaker 2:all right, we gotta talk about this failed uh administration. Man, we have some fucking ass clowns at the top. So, if you're not aware, I was so excited about this when I read this because I I can't imagine anybody being this stupid. But then I remember, is donald trump leading these people.
Speaker 4:So of course, yeah, so stupidity knows jeff jeff goldberg.
Speaker 2:He is a reporter for the atlantic and he posted a story in which he had stated that he was he was asked to be a part of. He was invited. He had stated that he was asked to be a part of. He was invited into a group chat that gave him access to what, at the time, they called war plans. Now they're calling attack plans and essentially he had information on when the United States was going to attack the Houthis, who are a, some would say, Iranian-backed group.
Speaker 5:Yada, yada in the Middle East yeah, yemen, but Iranian-backed yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some would say iranian backed group, yada, yada in the, in the middle east, yeah, yemen, but iranian backed yeah, that's what I'm saying um, and in yemen, and it was an attack that went on.
Speaker 2:So, just to give a brief synopsis on hooties, they had been attacking ships, uh, in a particular water, regarding, you know, just different american, european ships that were going through. They had been stopped by Biden and they hadn't have done any attack, since Israel has been blocking aid from getting to Palestine, and so what? They have said that if Israel continues to block the aid, they will go back to attacking the ships. So, again then, from my knowledge, there has not been any more ships that have been attacked, but to get on the offensive, they went and did this attack. So one of the many issues about this largely one, is that, yes, they had a civilian journalist who should not be in this group chat, in this group chat.
Speaker 4:And they were sharing very sensitive information, like where they were going to attack targets that were going to be attacked, the sequencing of things that would follow after the attack, just like things that a journalist should not be privy to whatsoever, and this was weeks before the actual attack. So he it seems like he played his role and he shut his mouth for, like, national security purposes, until the attack actually happened and then, after the fact, he was a yo like guess what happened? And this is crazy.
Speaker 2:So then, after he puts that information out, the White House tries to scramble. Everyone is trying to react to create the new narrative. Pete hexeth, who are alleged alcoholic, also potentially purchased minor vagina. Remember we talked about him in regards to that. The fox x fox news again, weekend fox news host. Let me just tell y'all what he said when hillary clinton you remember them emails and the benghazi and all that I remember that very vividly.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you what pete good old pete said during that time because I think it's it's very, very poignant and I think, relevant to the discussion that's being had because at that point they had said and stated they believed secrets and classified information was being done on a public server.
Speaker 8:So let's see what our man pete got to say about that back on the weekends at fox, if it were a republican divulging the secrets of our nation at the very highest level, that person would be in prison. There would be outrage across the board. But here it's covered up. It's incredible. This is Pete. No, the double standard is incredible.
Speaker 8:Imagine if it was I don't know Donald Trump, what the media would be doing to him right now, eviscerating him. Or imagine if it was a member of the military, which we've seen from General Cartwright and General petraeus they still go after these guys. For a tiny, tiny fraction of what she willfully did and betrayed her country in doing so supposedly for convenience, but actually so she could have a different set of standards and hide her conduct and the conduct of the clinton foundation, benghazi, everything else, so she could stay away from and above the law. And it turns out, foreign services want to know what our secretary of state thinks and in this instance, they did whatever they could to break an unsecure server in her basement. It tells you everything you need to know. It's actually.
Speaker 2:It's actually so he seems like somebody who would be really up in arms about something like this. Right, that's what I would think, that I I think that somebody did something like this, he would be ready to stand up like a man and apologize for what he did. He would take full responsibility. Don't you think that individual who says something like that would take full responsibility if he messed up like that 100% Because it was so intense his first take on it. Okay, let's see what he says right here.
Speaker 8:You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again. Nobody was texting war plans and that's all I have to say about that okay, so nobody was texting war plans they were definitely testing war plans well well, let me just read a little bit of it.
Speaker 2:Let's let our audience decide that. You know, let's not us tell people what?
Speaker 5:what they feel like they should think war plans are.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck? We think we are fair that we just tell some niggas what war plans are? Okay, well, you need to freaking, relax, okay, all right. So here's a message from uh peach hexeth team. Update time now 11 45 eastern standard. Well, weather is favorable, just confirmed with centcom. We are go for mission launch. Okay, hold on. That seemed a little bit. A little bit like a lot of information 100, 12, 15 eastern time. F-18 launch first strike package. 13 45 trigger base f18 first strike window start target terrorist at his known location. So should be on time.
Speaker 4:Also, drone strike launch mq9s why is he texting a random group chat that has? It's not a random group chat though no, but this group chat has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 2:No, is he supposed to be texting this group chat? This is what they made the group chat for for them to have correspondence here so they just accidentally had the journalist in there.
Speaker 4:What, yeah, so they.
Speaker 2:Somebody accidentally added him to there. So this is the problem, though. Signal is not a secure app. One it does one. It does two things. It's not secure, so people can't hack it. The people who were on this were around the globe, some of us in areas that we have enemies russia we have people who were in russia who were receiving these messages on this week app. We have people all around the global. Tulsi gober can't remember where she was at, but she was in this group chat as well, so speaking of her, that's so fucked.
Speaker 4:Speaking of her because the next day hot mess that's like whoever is over this cia fbi? Y'all did not have a good morning meeting after this at all. Y'all were getting your asses handed to you. I know that for a fact.
Speaker 2:Oh no, we have clips of it, Because the next day they had to sit in front of a council, A congressional hearing. We have to discuss this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because why does the American public know about the group chat about sensitive information? And then why is the group chat just on iMessage? Y'all didn't even use telegram. That's the criminal app.
Speaker 15:Use telegram did he create a hoax that allowed him to become part of this signal thread? Please answer the question you. You don't. Don't. Don't insult the intelligence of the American people. Did he invite himself to the Signal thread? I don't know how he was invited.
Speaker 13:There's no way to do that, but clearly he was added Clearly it was Finish your sentence, please. Clearly, he was added to the. Signal group.
Speaker 15:Your question is no. You don't know that the president's national security advisor invited him to join the signal threat. Everybody in America knows that. Does the CIA director not know?
Speaker 6:that I've seen conflicting reports about who added this is the CIA director. So this person right here is asking.
Speaker 2:No, he is being challenged because he's in the wrong. Okay, that's what.
Speaker 15:I thought it's perfectly appropriate that there was a reporter at it, especially one that the Secretary of Defense says is deceitful, highly discredited, a so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes over and over again. Do you are your testimony that it was appropriate that he was added to this signal threat? No, of course not. And why? Why, did you not? Hold on, you are the mischaracterizing my testimony you can? You answered the question. Let me ask you so hold on.
Speaker 11:Now I want to take it to where share the text with the committee.
Speaker 4:No, this is interesting this right here was the interest in part two, because I want to start watching more congressional hearings because what I'm learning is that they be more. They're so much more juicy than we think they are.
Speaker 11:You are not tg on this group chat. I'm not going to get into the specifics, so you refuse to acknowledge whether TG on this group chat. I'm not going to get into the specifics, so you refuse to acknowledge whether you are on this group chat. Senator, I'm not going to get into this. Why are you?
Speaker 2:over here looking like Rogue.
Speaker 11:Is it because it's all classified? Because this is currently under review by the National Security Council? Because it's all classified. If it's not classified, share the text now, as the White House previously stated. Is it? Classified or non-classified information on this text. I can confirm, director Radcliffe, were you on the group chat?
Speaker 13:Senator, I was on a signal messaging group, so you were the John Radcliffe on that chat. I was Thank you, thank you. Can I provide some context, senator?
Speaker 4:to that. That makes her look even worse.
Speaker 13:Yes, but I've got a series of questions, but I think it's important because at the outset you made a couple of comments about Signal messaging using encrypted apps. So that we're clear one of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA.
Speaker 2:I ain't really saying nothing. This is about to be a better one. So another funny part about this, before I play this next clip, they had your boy up there, cash Patel.
Speaker 4:What does he have to?
Speaker 2:do with this. He's the FBI director. Oh Yo, he looked like he was zooted off a fucking bean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they be high as fuck His eyes was wide open.
Speaker 2:He was sitting there bobbing it. He looked like he was off a bean early in the morning as fuck for real no yo cash patel looked like he was off the bean of airstrikes.
Speaker 16:Allow a military to pre-position or cue air defense systems to shoot down enemy aircraft.
Speaker 2:It does this weird thing when they stop talking.
Speaker 16:I think Senator from our perspective, any advance warning is something that we certainly are trying to protect. Director Radcliffe, this was a huge mistake, correct.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 16:He said no, a national political, a journalist? No, no, director Radcliffe.
Speaker 5:I asked you a yes or no question.
Speaker 16:and now you'll hold on A national political reporter was made privy to sensitive information about imminent military operations against a foreign terrorist organization.
Speaker 4:Why are two people talking at the same time?
Speaker 16:Well, I think they characterize it as a mistake. This is utterly unprofessional. It is there's been no apology.
Speaker 4:Shonda Rhimes could have wrote this.
Speaker 16:There has been no recognition of the gravity of this error and, by the way, we will get the full transcript of this chain and your testimony will be measured carefully against its content.
Speaker 2:thank you, mr chairman so I just want y'all to know. We either have one or two things. We either have a bunch of the most incompetent crackers that you will ever collect in your life, or we have a sinister bunch of people who are planning things that we have no clue what's going on, because one of the important things to note in project 2025 they told them to use apps similar to signal so that you don't get caught up in court, because they have a ability to delete all of that, and that is that is something that is against the law.
Speaker 2:If you are discussing, uh, classified or military government high in official things, that needs to be documented matters yeah that needs to be documented 100 there needs to be documentation all around the board, and if you are not doing that, you are making us, at home, be subjected to corruption, tyranny. It looks like corruption and then susceptible to tyranny, because how do we know y'all aren't discussing plots to take over the government and then deleting the messages? We have no idea. High ranking officials, you're not allowed to do this. And then how do we not have had plenty of?
Speaker 4:shonda eight on the residents because, like these were all things that she like slightly touched on during this show, have we not fired?
Speaker 2:multiple federal workers for them not doing a job that's needed, yeah, but now we haven't had one discussion of these clowns, not one discussion these clowns being fired they're not going to be fired because you know what administration that we're under currently.
Speaker 4:So I feel like you need to take your rational people um logic out of it and then just need to lower your standards down to like not even hell, just like the, the no, because they don't do that.
Speaker 2:The lower the loweriest pits of hell they don't do that when they're criticizing people.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to do that for them, no yeah, but like they're worse that's what I'm saying like you need to lower your standards because they're worse morally. Like we have higher standards for them, they have lower standards for us because they have low standards in general.
Speaker 2:You know they started off the meeting making jokes talking about hey, instead of uh, you know us saying I or you know whatever things we need to do, we'll just put this fist fire emoji. American flag up is that like. That's what, that's what they were using in the messages that's the new like thing no, that's a.
Speaker 2:That's just what was in the thing. They were making fun of the fact that they knew what the cia director was. Uh emojis he was using in praising the the attack, and they were making fun of him like there's no reason we should be seeing all this that doesn't matter at all it matters that, the fact that we shouldn't even know that this is going on. Yeah, that's what they're saying, and that's what the joke is about.
Speaker 4:This is an administration of dick writers 100%.
Speaker 2:I will say this, though I think this is my conspiracy theory they wanted this to get out because they thought it was going to make them look good, because, if you look at everything, because the dude who put him in his name is like Mike Watts or Waltz I think that's his name, he's the guy who actually put Jeff in there, and I think that what they were trying to do, because this doesn't make sense to me. Okay, if I'm a journalist and I realize I am in a thread that has high-end security I mean, uh, high and high profile government officials in it I'm not leaving no I'm not, I'm not telling anybody at all.
Speaker 4:I am going to this is poor journalism there's no way for you to like not let it be known, but no, it is a way you.
Speaker 2:You stay in there until they remove you yeah, you just don't say anything yeah, you, you have your other person, somebody at your newspaper, at your, at your magazine. You have somebody that you work with, just like he did on the second article that he wrote where they, where they, he released everything because they kept calling him a liar. He released all the messages because, again, y'all said it's not classified. So you have him write this story and the whole time I'm writing off all the information, everything that I can get, and that's why I think this is like a scam in a way, because he even talks about in the original article how it was impressive. I don't say scam, conspiracy, I think that he would say how it was impressive, how they were coordinating and things of that nature, and I really think they thought this is going to make us look cool and it backfired like they definitely thought they was they thought this shit was yeah.
Speaker 2:You can tell they thought this shit was more.
Speaker 4:They like oh, this shit's about, yeah but that never nothing that they think or plan out to make them look cool does so no because they have a completely different definition of cool than actual cool people do because the reason why I'm saying that?
Speaker 2:because if you look at the language, there was a part where Vance, who was also a part of this, said that he didn't agree with the action. Because it didn't, it wasn't in line with the view that the president has stated with Europe, because this actually would benefit Europe more than it would benefit anyone else. But the kind of consensus in the room was no, we need to attack them now, just get it over with. But we got to figure out how we're going to explain this to the american people. I think that's probably the most important tidbit to take away from this, because, looking at what they said okay, we're going to focus on biden, failed, iran funded. That's what they do with everything. They get two or three orders and that's all you see them focus on, talk about Biden, trivialize the topic and then say how great we're doing, and that is literally. That's the formula.
Speaker 2:And that's what we saw in real time and what we gathered. So I wish I know it's not going to people who aren't going to really have that effect on it, because you have one side that's acting like this is bullshit and you have another side of people who act like, oh, they're overdoing it. This is a mistake and this is a big error. People could have died, and this needs to be taken into consideration on why the fuck are they on these apps? Because we we just talked about the nsa firing niggas from getting freaky on on work time.
Speaker 2:These folks need to be gone about penetration tosy gobert was the one uh, galbert was the one who fired them people. So all of this horrendous, disgusting stuff. But you can't do and be part of something responsible and don't try to. I want to hear that. Oh, she was at the end. No, you see what's going on. You are a high and official. You are in the cabinet of the president. You know all of our intelligence. You should be intelligent enough to know who's in a group chat that you're referencing and talking to. I'm sorry, this is just, it's ridiculous, incompetent crackers.
Speaker 4:Man especially if you're at work, like you can't just be sending sending emails and just just know, like who you're saying, you're, just know who you're saying things to know who you're communicating things to and whoever you think got your back.
Speaker 2:Definitely don't but then like it's crazy, because even when they was calling like europe pathetic and stuff, like they, be they. It's hard to tell like do they really believe the rhetoric or do they know their line they believe it.
Speaker 4:It's not hard to tell it is hard.
Speaker 4:I don't know if they know, if they know their line or not because I don't like like it's just because I don't think stupidity runs as rampant as you probably think it does. So because you have less faith in people, you're more confused about whether like their intentions, and then I'm just like. No, people are greedy as fuck and they're stupid so like they're doing this on purpose, for an, an ulterior motive. There's literally nothing for you to be confused about unless you want to think that these people are better than they are and they're fucking not. Point blank period all right.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess we can leave it there.
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