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Raqi Thunda vs Joe Budden, Karmelo Anthony's Right to Self Defense, and Conservative Women Learn the Truth about Men
The boundaries of self-defense become starkly racialized when examining the Karmelo Anthony case, where a young Black man defended himself against aggressors but found himself characterized as a "thug" despite evidence supporting his claim. Through eyewitness testimony and analysis of Texas' Stand Your Ground law, we unpack how the right to self-defense often carries different consequences depending on race.
Social media continues to blur the lines between entertainment and exploitation, as demonstrated by the viral Joe Budden and Rocky Twitter space confrontation. What began as a heated exchange quickly escalated into serious allegations, garnering attention from major content creators and highlighting how conflict drives engagement in today's digital landscape. We examine why these spaces command such attention and what they reveal about our consumption habits.
The curious contradiction of conservative women seeking career success while adhering to traditional values creates a fascinating dating dilemma. When Megyn Kelly laments that conservative women can't find partners who accept their professional ambitions, she unwittingly exposes the fundamental incompatibility between career aspirations and traditional gender roles. This cognitive dissonance reflects broader tensions within conservative ideology about women's place in society.
Our animated mom bracket competition sparked passionate debate about representation, aesthetics, and subtle biases, while our discussion on sexual health disclosure ethics challenged conventional thinking about personal responsibility versus obligation to others. Throughout every topic, we maintain our signature blend of critical analysis and humor, pushing boundaries while asking uncomfortable but necessary questions about how we navigate race, gender, and social norms in contemporary America.
How are you approaching your personal boundaries? Are you taking full responsibility for your health and safety, or expecting others to manage risks for you? These questions extend beyond relationships into every aspect of how we interact with others and society at large.
Our planet is not the globe model you're looking at in front of you. Down is the ground. Every time, every time, down is the ground. So when you say what's up and down on the globe, it's the ground, my nigga. Everywhere else, that's always the answer.
Speaker 3:I might need to file for divorce.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, man, peggy was a solid, she a solid rock.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm she is a hard face white, but them.
Speaker 1:But them feet big what. The but them feet big what?
Speaker 3:does that mean shem?
Speaker 1:in like an 800k home which they leased. They've been leasing the home since 2022. What y'all have to understand is black people can have money too. This idea that y'all want to paint this kid like he is somebody who has grown as a have not is not going to run true. You have to understand. The moment you, as a woman, take on the idea that you're going to be a career-driven individual, you have automatically stated that you are no longer a conservative woman that is, outside of the box of conservatism had to pull over and I kind of like held my chest a little bit because I'm like that's, I don't want to be in a few hours here.
Speaker 1:Katie perry died on a blue origin crash like that would have destroyed my whole day, my whole week, maybe the rest of the year, honestly this sorry mother f**ker texted me and was like oh um, let me just pull it up I said, I cried also this she made a baby with a that had a narrow urethra.
Speaker 1:Do you know how good that gotta work? Do you know how good that gotta work? And she gets up there straight up like gonna guilty who feels comfortable in any courtroom saying guilty. I feel like I'm going to be honest. I'm going to take the L for it because I know I'm going to get hate.
Speaker 3:He about to pick the white woman Going with Francine.
Speaker 1:Smith, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 7:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What the f*** do you think your f***ing ass is doing on that podcast?
Speaker 1:now I want to apologize to the fan base, to the supporters out there, I don't. Come on, you can't start the show like that, especially after your shenanigans.
Speaker 3:I was outside period.
Speaker 1:No, after your shenanigans, we couldn't even do a show like this.
Speaker 3:My shenanigans are content.
Speaker 1:That's cool and I'm not mad at that, but you at least have to respect the audience and let them know we are apologetic for not being able to get them my episode, I am. I had a lot of stuff set up for us to talk about that day.
Speaker 3:I will choose outside every time.
Speaker 1:It was some dope. We had a dope show that was lined up for y'all, and again I'm deeply, deeply apologetic for not getting that out there.
Speaker 3:We didn't get to listen to Redditor and talk about the tariffs People wanted.
Speaker 1:That was Don't talk about the supporters. That was don't, don't, don't talk about the supporters. That's what the people that support us.
Speaker 3:I was outside.
Speaker 1:All right, tell the people, tell the people.
Speaker 3:So I went to New York for my best friend's birthday. Right, I love when I go outside and we get content as a result of me going outside, cause I be living life on the edge a little bit and it's necessary. So, um, I went to New York for my best friend's birthday and we was in the gay clubs. Okay, I, we were there from 11 pm to 6 am. That was the first night. The second night I was dead. So the first night I was literally on my feet in heels. I was knocking back tequila and red bull all night. That's how stayed alive and that's my plan for next month, poor little heart.
Speaker 3:It's fine.
Speaker 1:Caffeinated, you only live once.
Speaker 3:That's my plan for next month. For the Memorial Day party, I'm going to be drinking tequila and Red Bulls all night because obviously that is the key to keeping me up and lit for the entire night. So we was in the gay club. I was dancing. I was twirling through there like a little social fairy. I accidentally danced with a straight man. See yeah, disrespect I danced with him and I turned around. I was like hey you gay. He was like no, are you single? I was like no.
Speaker 1:So you was in there with the DL brother.
Speaker 3:I married.
Speaker 1:And then I was like, what the are you doing in here? And he was like, oh, I'm just supporting a friend. So I was like, okay, cool, and then I just twirled away I was twirling all over the place that was a dl brother and see, that's where. That's why I need to come in that man, the police, some, because I would, I would have had to just turn listen, I was throwing these little cheeks period no, you need to be throwing them to the air. Don't be throwing them on nobody I was throwing them see and then the gay club is just so great.
Speaker 3:I feel so safe it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not. You just clearly just explain why you wasn't. It was one guy.
Speaker 3:There was one straight man in the entire place.
Speaker 1:It's all. They're all secret. It's about 10 percent of if you buy me a good song is playing.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm dancing with you like if I'm in the gay club. See, and then I'm so like oh, I was getting so many compliments. I was walking past dudes. I was like I love your outfit but I love your outfit, bitch you a fabulous, like it's just community.
Speaker 3:Like I'd be walking past people and they'd be like tea, yes, and I'd be like thank you, because my outfit was real cute. It was it was eating, because I eat, okay, and I know y'all can tell. So then we have more. I have more like outside stories let's hear your shenanigans because kind of, yeah, definitely shenanigans.
Speaker 3:I had to go to court the other day and then my husband showed up and supported me at the court because his wife is a criminal. So it was. It was just. I consistently violate traffic laws like I, just on a regular basis, right but she's, but she's working on it I am. I am because I can't just do what I want all the time especially in these times yeah, so, um, it was just the insurance thing.
Speaker 3:So we go to the court and this was the most colorful courtroom that I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing. The first thing that I remember they play this long ass video of all the options that you can do guilty, not guilty, no, low, uh, whatever the fuck. So this they call this african man's name and then you're after they call your name. You're supposed to say what you plead. This man gets up.
Speaker 1:I am innocent that wasn't an option that wasn't on the list of things that they gave you, my nigga no, the way that man did that shit like you would have thought he was in a movie like the way he got up, he looked around.
Speaker 3:I am innocent africans are so poetic with the way they speak. I love the way africans then the lady like my enemies have forsaken me like.
Speaker 1:Then the lady who was next to him was like not guilty, but let me tell you about her, all right, because you need to get a little bit of the shine here, okay, so again she gets all the options or whatever and she gets up there straight up like gonna guilty, because who feels comfortable at any courtroom saying guilty?
Speaker 3:okay, because when you no low is like uh, it doesn't, it doesn't affect you, you, it just goes away that's. It's the gunna plea that's how I perceived it. I have used my no low before and I did not know whether, because you can use it every like five years or every five years.
Speaker 3:I had already used it on like a speeding ticket because, like I told y'all, I've been swerve, I've been swerving and been in that corner like, so I didn't know if I could use it. But the lady called me into the office. I said guilty. She was like you can do no low, you want to do that.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, yeah, let's do that your license, if you did it well, no, that's what she said. She said if you would have did a guilty plea, they were going to suspend your license. If you didn't. Well, no, that's what she said. She said, if you would have did a guilty plea, they would have had to suspend your license.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, Well, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1:She wasn't even listening to nothing.
Speaker 3:For 90 days. They would have had to suspend my license. So she let me do the no-lo and I was like great, let's do that. To be fair was less than the amount of insurance I didn't pay for so a win is a win.
Speaker 1:A win is a win. That's not true. That's not true because when you pay had to change your insurance over. You had to pay back.
Speaker 3:It's still less how much babe, I don't think you understand, with the amount of speeding tickets I have and the fact that I have rear-ended somebody before, how much my insurance was.
Speaker 1:It has lowered since then we gotta get you in some defensive driver classes.
Speaker 3:Okay, we gotta get you in some classes we didn't even get through all of the interesting stuff that happened, so they called this other nigga's name. Nigga's name is Tim Quavius. This is the second time I'm holding back tears.
Speaker 1:I'm like not the key and peel skit that's exactly because his last name was crazy too. I don't remember his last name, but his last name didn't even matter.
Speaker 3:And then this old white man with a lawyer comes up, gray hair, barely can walk. I'm like what is happening with this dude? He's telling his story. He's like my, your honor, it was just a bad day, you know, like something got stuck underneath the pedal or whatever. He accidentally rear-ended somebody. It was just a bad day. That's what he was chalking it up to. The judge is like well, you're being charged with a dui. I was dropped, sir. You underplayed that shit.
Speaker 1:Oh dear, he tried to act like the drink didn't have shit to do what was going on. I was in sound mind. I was in sound mind. You know what I'm saying. I was just driving, driving a whip, and it got caught underneath the brake and I couldn't stop.
Speaker 3:Nah, bro he was swerving in that corner. Your breath was reeked of alcohol. I leaned over first of all we're.
Speaker 1:I caught underneath the brake and I couldn't stop. Nah, bro, he was swerving in that.
Speaker 3:corner your breath was reeked of alcohol. I leaned over. First of all, we are too unserious.
Speaker 1:Like I was. We were whispering to each other. We were in the back of the courtroom.
Speaker 3:The whole time I whispered. I said you don't know that sauce he was drinking, like what do you mean? He was off the moonshine. Oh my god, that shit was. And then he said, uh, he crashed his 30 year old corvette. He was like, and that was like my child he said that was like a baby to me like fuck the guy who was who had to be hospitalized.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she did say he got whiplash he's like got a little bit of whiplash, just a little bit, but my car, that's the serious crime here actually oh my god.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you just gotta like live life a little bit on the edge so that you can come back to your podcast and tell a funny story or you just go sit in a courtroom for a little bit, like nobody would have stopped us from going in there, we just wanted to sit there and find the color colorful characters of the county. So yeah, maybe we just need to start watching court tv just watch, or we should just listen to the police radar that would be before we go to sleep.
Speaker 1:Just listen to the police radar, everything. We got a 672 down here. We got an african-american male. He's out here with his pants sagging. We gotta go get him right now, bro. That's how they'll, that's what they'll say um, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think I think you should definitely be outside a little bit more so you can come and tell us a little no, I'm not going back to New York, I'm not going back to New. York. I said outside nigga immediately wanted to shit on New York. What did New York do to?
Speaker 1:you. It was just not for me, that's all.
Speaker 3:New York wasn't even in the discussion, but New York had to catch a stray.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a stray man. I aimed right at it.
Speaker 3:Let's get into the girly things. This is the summer anthem. This is how I want my summer to feel, aesthetically, just like this.
Speaker 5:Back on the road again, feelin' kinda lonely and Lookin' for the right guy. That's why I warned you about the wheels. He'll drive a funky car. Maybe we'll meet at a club and fall so deeply in love He'll tell me I'm the one and we'll have so much fun. I'll be the girl of his dreams, maybe. Hey, baby, come on Baby.
Speaker 3:I gotta guess hey, baby, come on, baby, come on. This is throwing your ass in a maxi skirt music. Gotta guess Someone to come along With a flower in the hair. You gotta hold your drink in the air while I was drunk, I'd be in there. There was a. Did you see the Janet versus Madonna beat on Twitter this week?
Speaker 1:No, I missed that. Look at my bob. Is that going to be like your forever?
Speaker 3:dance now. Yeah, nah, not the gunshots on this song. Can you not nigger it up, please?
Speaker 1:I'm going nigger it up wherever.
Speaker 3:I go Like please.
Speaker 1:That's. All I know how to do is nigger it up.
Speaker 3:There has to be different.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to show you one is there like a sparkly you don't like that.
Speaker 1:You said a sparkly. The hell is a sparkly Like a chime Like a wind chime. Nigga said a wind chime. I thought it was a wind chime.
Speaker 3:Cute jingle. We just playing random sound effects over a song at this point. That's a good thing. Now we need a wind chime, a heavenly wind, chime Female. You know the the whistle would be better for, like Ashkahn songs. I'm gonna keep that note. Alrighty. Alrighty.
Speaker 1:Alright, now you are now listening to talk fnf tv and I am the co-host, I am your host. Absurd rhetoric and I'm, with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss reality, hi guys. And we are live from section eight. That's what niggas were saying like you have never known a section eight that's what niggas were saying, though they said that I was in section eight because I said a tweet niggas who I made a tweet about. They got upset so they said I was in section eight.
Speaker 3:I said people get upset about things you say on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just using a line. You know, danny was using a line. They got mad that I guess they feel like they own that line and I said you made it a hot line, we made it a hot song and it just got people in their feelings.
Speaker 3:So it's what happens, you know I'm not here to you know when you're smarter than people, they'll. Things you say will get in their feelings.
Speaker 1:It gets reactions out of them. I love it. You know I enjoy the hate for from it, so we appreciate it. Man, we, we gonna keep doing it in the in the section eight here. Big time, big time with it you in section eight is hilarious. I mean, it is I mean I want that to be the narrative, like I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm section eight, shawty because he has never he's been. He's the farthest thing from section eight no, bro, that's why I can't.
Speaker 1:I'm in the mud with it, that's all I ever know. You know, I think they seen when I you remember the dude who everybody said looked like Rory and it was on the Rory Mall podcast. He got the bob too. He, the white boy with the bob. You never seen that? No, remember, I showed you the video and I was like he was at the apartments and I had oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think I may have said that on my Twitter like oh, I used to stay in the apartment, so they thought I'm apartments with section 8 for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, 100% the slums yeah, man, that was my, that was. That was a cheap place. Man kept it, held it down and and I and I was, uh, respected, so nigga shot at me once and it was over with. Never happened again. Yeah, I guess All right, so we got to get into some a lot that was going on. Man, I was involved in some epic spaces this week Big time.
Speaker 3:I saw some residual stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to tell you, man you try to say this wasn't going to look. Man, this is big time stuff here. Man, We've just been talked about everywhere. Mar-a-lago was posting this, academics was talking about it Like this was everywhere. So if y'all didn't see, rocky and Joe Budden had an epic face-off. This was part two. That's the thing A lot of folks don't realize. This was part two because the first one happened in Nick. So y'all should check out Screaming With Nick that's my boy he had a space where this first kind of just like boiled and then it boiled over and Dub shout out to Dub with the files.
Speaker 1:Y'all check out his channel too. It erupted in his space so I want to play a little bit of it, just because you know it was some elite stuff, man.
Speaker 7:I ain't going to lie to y'all what.
Speaker 4:Yankee Rocky. When you was around, you was the bitch with hips.
Speaker 7:No ass, that nobody looked at like that because you didn't have no body.
Speaker 6:Wait, hold up because you're not going to keep talking like fucking.
Speaker 10:Marilyn Monroe, out there, rocky nobody in this crew wanted you.
Speaker 7:Nobody in this crew wanted you Not one soul in this crew wanted you Not one soul in this crew.
Speaker 10:ever, not one day or minute wanted you, so stick to your rebrand and stop it.
Speaker 7:You're deflecting once again. That's not the topic we was on. But I'll answer that and then I'll get back to what I was saying. Whether anybody wanted me there or not, it's neither here nor there, because that wasn't the relationship I had. It's here and there, it's not. That was not the relationship, why you keep talking like you was running around like super baddie bitch. Nobody looked at you like that it sucks because Joe's voice is naturally dominating.
Speaker 3:Nobody ever tried to talk to you.
Speaker 1:Nobody ever invited you to none of the sexy turn up orgy type. That's fine, that's fine. Stop lying to these goofy niggas Joseph.
Speaker 7:Exactly.
Speaker 1:That wasn't necessary, man. He called us goofy niggas.
Speaker 7:He can't stand the truth. He's like goddamn, it's like me burning sage in a room full of demons.
Speaker 6:Stop coming over here pumping that up.
Speaker 7:I thought that was corny Pumping that up. Truth.
Speaker 1:He's like goddamn it's like me burning sage in a room full of demons. Let's not talk over me. Let's have the conversation.
Speaker 7:Let's have the conversation, the conversation at hand is no, no, no.
Speaker 7:The conversation at hand is because you always try to bring other people into the conversation Imani, ice, ish, corey Parks, all of these people, if you want to group them in. I'm glad nobody wanted me like that, because I didn't want them either. We didn't have that relationship. We had a family-style friendship, so that's cool. But if we're gonna act like every time I came out the bathroom, you wasn't sitting on the floor beating your dick and I had to walk past your nasty ass, yeah, let's not play now, because every time you come in, this motherfucker with the lies, I'm going to take this shit to the real too. I'll be trying to hold you to this.
Speaker 7:Okay, newsflash to this room full of boobies, newsflash, nothing, the motherfucker keep a bottle of lube everywhere.
Speaker 3:We know this.
Speaker 7:Nobody is ever looking at you.
Speaker 3:Because his girl has confirmed it too, that nigga Joe is a ding beater. No day day any day, nowhere like that. Stop that.
Speaker 4:See, I'm just overstating why she don't talk about that every day for the next five years okay.
Speaker 1:So I do want to kind of just give a little break, because I was in the space the entire time. So I want to make sure, like we give context, because everybody likes to paint this like, oh, rocky just crashing out and all this other stuff, and she's obsessed with Joe, and that's not what was going on at all what was going on, like what people got to also understand is rocky and on the we works crew we built a rapport with her, so she's cool with us now.
Speaker 1:Like it's not like she's just coming in just to shit on joe anymore, like she comes to just chop it up with us she fuck with us. Yeah, she'd be in there with y'all all the time yeah, she actually thinks of us things a little little highly, of the guys over there. That's why he kept naming all of us in there, calling us goofs and stuff, because she sits down and literally she has a podcast with danny and, uh, some other people in there.
Speaker 1:Right, that's gonna be coming soon, then I stopped the podcast. Later it's different, but they got a podcast coming, so y'all make sure I'll check it out too, but I do want to give a little heads up what was going on. So in the space we were all chilling and talking and imani comes up on stage imani's in, you know, engaging in the conversation. We, you know, kicking it. You know, do what we do.
Speaker 1:We joke around yeah she asked him a question because, again, we just had, she just had a space with joe, when joe was trying to say, oh you, she, she loved him and all this other stuff. So she asked, imani, keep it real, have I ever in any capacity seemed like I was in love with Joe? Imani says no. He then kind of turns the conversation into like them needing each other to get on love and hip hop and stuff, and that's when the conversation explodes. Joe comes on stage basically saying oh you lying, you lying. And that's what it turns into that she's telling everybody he beating his dick outside the door while she's using the bathroom which, how, what, what?
Speaker 3:I'm just so taken aback by joe sitting outside the bathroom while rocky's using it and beating his dick like like I just thought, the logistics is what.
Speaker 1:What I thought about, you can't see nothing like what.
Speaker 3:Are you just getting pleasure? From like the thought of, like her pussy is out on the other side of that door according to her.
Speaker 1:According to her, she said that he was listening to her pee so my god joe is freaked out. This is what I think about when I think about the logistics of this situation. Right, oh my god. So they're chilling, maybe listening to some music or whatever.
Speaker 3:You know, molly's probably being passed around molly is definitely being you know what I'm saying and rocky's like I gotta go to the bathroom joe's ears pucker up.
Speaker 1:You know he gets excited so so then I don't like as rocky starts to persist to the bathroom. He has to then make a beeline to the bedroom to get the wet platinum, because I don't imagine this being a dry sesh like this is like platinum, it's a lube, so he's going to go grab the lube.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know what I'm saying, so he. It makes it creepier that you named the brand of lube.
Speaker 1:I would because that's the brand that he talks about. Oh okay, this is all within can.
Speaker 3:So now there's another layer of discomfort that like this is canonical. We we know that which brand of lube that joe uses I?
Speaker 1:I wish to know less about this man. He jets, he jets to the room, grabs the wet platinum down to the, to the guest bathroom, and then I guess he just listens to the stream.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming that that's what she said how many times so this happened yeah that was his thing, apparently to her girl.
Speaker 1:He's he's Joe CK. I don't know what else we can put it at.
Speaker 3:My, my question In this scenario for Rocky is one Did you not feel uncomfortable with that? And two, why did you keep coming around if every time you came out the bathroom, he had meat in hand?
Speaker 1:like I would. I think it's kind of exaggeration to say it's every time no, but like and like.
Speaker 1:One time is enough time and I think too, when you're in that world where you're like doing different drugs and you're partying and kind of chilling, like certain things don't look as weird in the moment, because now, like he's grabbing on her touch, even though she did say in the space that one time he was sleepwalking and copped a feel on her while she was sleeping, like she was really waking shit up the whole space. Like I said, man, like you get hate on the space is all you want, but dramatic shit happening in there we are creating content that is turning and getting to places like mar-a-lago.
Speaker 3:Academic people are reposting milagro, yeah, milagro, what I said? You said mar-a-lago two times, oh, I, I don't care about her milagro.
Speaker 1:My bad, but uh. And then even rory came into the room later the next day when we were talking and he said the craziest part of the space was after. Everybody was like, quit arguing and everybody was done. Y'all was like yo we did it because, y'all are messy.
Speaker 1:We WeWork. People don't understand. Wework has been organizing this for months. Like not in the sense of we tried to make this happen, but we've been creating a space where people are comfortable coming in and waking shit up, Like we've had tons of other people come in. It started with Willow Rider and now we have opened up to like now we are really creating real spaces. People see what we're doing. People are like shouting us out on our entertainment level and the value that we're bringing. So like I don't want to hear all that anymore. Man, we work is up.
Speaker 3:Shout out to y'all.
Speaker 1:And shout out to Rocky man Like to me it's tough because I know a little bit more about certain things that they were kind of not being direct about in that moment.
Speaker 3:And so when I know my side of the story that's why I'm very empathetic, for because I feel bad from outside, looking in like not having any context or anything, it just kind of I was afraid a little bit because it just looked like she was just crashing out on a timeline and I was like what is happening? Like? I was like, oh, like. But I hope she takes this momentum and everything that she has going on and uses it, because I do enjoy listening to her like Cursed Niggas Out.
Speaker 4:I love listening to women.
Speaker 3:Elite level. I love listening to women from New York Cursed Niggas Out. I think we do it the best.
Speaker 1:And she has that Florida little influence in there too.
Speaker 3:No, I didn't, I don't.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I I, because you said before the first time we talked about, you said she sounded like she was from the south oh, because the way she said yeah the way she said pussy ass.
Speaker 3:I was like that's not the way you say that if you're fully from new york. She said that like a southerner. But yeah, like I was having a little bit more context, okay, but I was just like a little bit like, oh my god, girl, girl, yeah, because, like I said, man them.
Speaker 1:Folks do be violating her too. So that's why I don't be like I'm that type of person. I'm like, oh, you shouldn't be going after people such and such. I don't really respond to certain things because it's sometimes to me it the level of people who are criticizing me don't feel like I can articulate myself in a way that they'll be able to understand. So it doesn't become. You know, it becomes trivial for me, but she has such an art of it Like she just tears people down effortlessly.
Speaker 3:I saw them screenshots that she posted of Joe the text message. Yeah, and I was like he was definitely flirting. Yeah, you can't say he wasn't flirting yeah, like him saying that nobody wanted you and then in the text being like I was trying not to look at your juicy, sexy thighs like nigga come on now and then and I want to wrap it up here too.
Speaker 1:Joe, I just did not appreciate you kind of throwing us in there. You trying to, you trying to throw me in there like I'm with fred. No, brother, we not, we not in this together brother not on the same team no, brother, you on that side, I'm on my side. Don't try to do that, because then, like you doing that.
Speaker 1:And then he calling us goofies and he's saying we like lame and all this other stuff, like that's not. No, I'm not falling for none of that. He tried to be like because I had, uh, I was putting sad faces and I was like bro, like this, ain't it? In the middle of it, you're just like man. Can we just not do it like this? And he's like man, I'm with Fred here, nah. And then the one thing that was crazy and I hope that this then was true I don't think this was who we accused it to be, but Joe was like alright, I love y'all boys. And then somebody said love you too. And right now I hope it's no one from we work that say that we are doing a knowledge of analysis and we will take that person to court if needed but homie court will happen, don't tell that nigga, you love him too, don't.
Speaker 1:That is not our, our uh, that's not our scripture, that is not our, our dogma at all, that's not what we do in the work. I promise y'all to that. But now, like I said, more to come. We, we make it more and more moments, and I'm just glad to see where this is happening, man, we doing our thing so shout out to the we work again.
Speaker 3:Definitely shout out to y'all. That was definitely a salacious space, a couple salacious spaces.
Speaker 1:So some of our best work, man. Some of our best work yeah, y'all are messy bitches. For sure, for all the drama, for shit show we are for all the drama.
Speaker 3:That is one of my favorite Atlanta slang terms For shit show.
Speaker 1:For shit show. That was the one that you adopted the most.
Speaker 3:Yes, the first time I heard that I was like I.
Speaker 1:That's going into my Rolodex.
Speaker 10:It's mine now All right.
Speaker 1:Let's get into. Let's talk about the Carmelo Anthony thing. I think it's that was. That's something that did happen while we were gone. So, if y'all not aware, there was an incident in Texas at a I think it was a community track. It wasn't a high school track, it was like a community track meet where a young man, carmelo anthony uh was it, you know? Uh, in an incident where he had to defend himself, according to him, and he stabbed a austin metcalf yes that ended in his losing him his life.
Speaker 1:So I do want to give condolences for that because, especially as a kid, 17 year old, when you hear the how they try to early, how they're explaining the story you read about it. You know he says that he passed in his twin brother's arms nobody will see that as horrible that's horrific, and then the brother's gonna have trauma for the rest of his life, probably.
Speaker 1:So nobody wants that yeah so but I do want to get into kind of what's happening because it's it's really been turned into like a racial war in regards to how this happened and turned out.
Speaker 1:People are trying to paint carmelo anthony as some type of thug, some type of violent offender, when he has no history of it. He's actually quite the opposite high grades, uh, done very well in school. I believe the picture with the gun that they've been trying to show him is an air gun. That's not even a real firearm, and he's with other kids that don't look like him, like there's one black boy and then two other kids that have a of different other races.
Speaker 1:So, and we can also show and what's been so disgusting with this is they all try to paint carmelo anthony as this thug for these guns, but we can find plenty of pictures of austin doing the same thing yeah and that's where, like I said, it gets very nasty, because, instead of taking this case at its merit, us trying to find you know what exactly happened, in the moment, we are turning this into a smear fest of two kids who, I mean we. I don't know what kind of kid austin was, but I don't think he deserves to be his name smeared, nor do I think carmelo anthony does yeah because I think, from what what we're being told, I listened to a clip in the video.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I can find it or not. There's a clip of a video where a man said he was at the at the location and he saw what happened and he said that carmelo anthony was sitting. I want to see if I can find it wasn't it self-defense.
Speaker 3:That's what somebody said.
Speaker 1:Some of the eyewitnesses said that's what he was, that was what he was claiming uh, that self-defense. But what the gentleman said was carmel anthony was sitting by himself. Austin and his brother came up to him, told him he needs to leave, and then that's when the altercation came up. He put his hand into his book bag and said touch me again, you know, and something's gonna happen. He gave him a warning. They commenced to touching him, putting their hands on him and that's when he tried to jump him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's when they were jumping him according to what the man was saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said the dude was trying to jump him and then that's when he reacted and, you know, stabbed him and ran off. So this is what I got crazy bad rain.
Speaker 6:They got rained out like crazy bad, everybody trying to get back to their cars or get in you know places where they, you know, wouldn't get all extra wet. Dude dude was sitting in the tent. Right he was on his phone. Right, my daughters was up on the same goddamn tent. Yeah, so I'm paying attention to my kids, but at the same time they're in the same vicinity so I'm watching everything going on around me because I'm there for my children. So dude walks up a Cullen McKellen bro, he wasn't even under the tent at the time. They came from a whole separate tent and walked over there. They intentionally went over there to this kid man. Dude was sitting there on his phone just trying to get dry. You feel me.
Speaker 6:One thing went from another. They grabbed this man and they tried to punch on the dude. Dude went in his bag and they went to try to jump this dude and punch on this dude man and he protected himself. Dude, that's what happened. Yeah, it wasn't just one, it was both of them, bro, austin, the dude that got on him alive and his brother physically went over there to intentionally. It's not to the point that he brought a knife For one. It wasn't on school property. The school is at least five to ten miles away. It was a whole. It was community track meet, bro, it wasn't a school track meet.
Speaker 1:So I want to get into some more parts to that, because there's been a lot of misinformation that's been placed out. They've been trying to paint Carmelo Anthony and anybody who's supporting him as these monsters. Uh, first off, he has deserved every bit of money that he has earned in regards to those gofundmes, whatever dollar he has gotten he deserves that gofundme took away the the money right and refunded everyone that donated to him not, not that I know.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard any confirmation, everything I heard for that they still had to go fund me okay they haven't uh liquidated it from the last part that I saw, but they have had to go from me. So one of the things that they were trying to say was that his parents, uh, were buying a new house. So, yes, they did mention that they were going to uh acquire a new residence, but they were going to do that for his safety yeah, because he's been getting tons of threats because their, their current home is listed on the white pages and has been for a while and people found their address so what they?
Speaker 1:what they found out was that they were I guess they were in like an 800k home which they leased. They've been leasing the home since 2022. What y'all have to understand is black people can have money too. This idea that y'all want to paint this kid like he is somebody who has grown as a have not, is not going to run true because it does not exist. The man the boy knows his father. The boy has been doing impeccable in school, so this is not this idea that they're going to try to paint him is not going to work.
Speaker 1:That kid was a young man defending himself and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but black people can do have the right to defend themselves. I hate to tell you all that because I know it makes a lot of y'all feel uncomfortable. Who are not black they hear that. But black people have the right to defend themselves and that's just the truest thing to it. And in his state, people trying to go and say that, oh, this is first degree murder. That's why I already think he's about to get off of this. Because if you're trying to go and say that, oh, this is first degree murder, that's why I already think he's about to get off of this. Because if you're trying to put this as first degree, are you crazy? Do you know what first degree murder means? That means he went there with the intent to kill austin, that everything that he did and set up was to kill austin. What does that even make any?
Speaker 3:sense? Yeah, that doesn't even make sense, because he didn't even approach the, the man he killed, the man that ended up uh dead, approached him and then there's other, a phrase that I'm not hearing enough of.
Speaker 1:That I heard a lot during trayvon martin. You remember that phrase, remember the, the law that everybody kept stand your ground stand your ground so I want to take a look at.
Speaker 1:Stand your ground in texas and just see what it says. Stand your ground, texas. Let's see what it says. Okay, this is. This is ai overview, so this is. It may not be the most accurate, so I just want to read just what the the general consensus, what they have here says law means an individual have no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense If there are lawfully present in a location and reasonably believe they are an imminent danger. The uh. This principle applies in various situations clean home, vehicle place, yada, yada but essentially what it is saying is when you are involved in an altercation where someone is violating your space and you, who you are, your entity that you have, you do not have to retreat.
Speaker 3:You can defend yourself yeah, if you feel like you're in danger and that's exactly what.
Speaker 1:Did that? Not sound like that, according to what that man said, what he just said in that video?
Speaker 3:he gave them a warning was like if you put your hands on me, I will defend myself. They put his hands, they put their hands on him. He defended himself. That's exactly what happened and they just hate.
Speaker 1:They hate to see that y'all and again I'm not gonna say anything, what y'all would love to cut up to say so they're like oh, look at this black man. No, I'm not gonna revel in this boy death. I'm just gonna tell you black people have the right to defend themselves and if it comes at your expense. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Maybe you should not violate the space of black people yep and black bodies, because even in this situation black lives matter if they weren't in that boy's face in the first place, then he would have been alive. If they weren't trying to jump him or whatever they were trying to do, he, they, he also would have still been alive. So it's very unfortunate that he died, but y'all need to stop like violating black people.
Speaker 1:Mind your business, stay away, cause it was crazy that another video was going viral. That kind of painted the situation of how these these things really occur, because I I've experienced stuff like this. I went to school in a predominantly white institution. I have seen, I've heard, different experiences. I remember one time I was walking into a convenience store. I was right down, right down the street from where my apartment building was or whatever, and I'm walking in and this dude's coming in so I just hold the door. He said it was a white guy. He said thanks, my nigga, I had to stop.
Speaker 3:I was like I'd have grabbed the back of his shirt, yanked him out of that door and then walked through myself, slammed the door.
Speaker 1:Get your fucking, get the door, your motherfucking self honking and the only reason I didn't react because, like I said, he already walked through and I stopped. And only reason because I knew if I walked in I was gonna say something and it was gonna spark some shit off. So I just closed the door and went to another convenience store because I knew what I was gonna do. But you had to experience stuff like that all the time because the moment I react to him now, that gives them everything they want yeah, all I would have done was lost all they would have done, I would have lost as soon as the moment.
Speaker 1:I would have reacted to that, I would have lost yeah, 100 and being in those situations, you always have to be 10 times smarter than the white people around you, because they're going to try to play you out your position every time with, with the quickness, and then try oh, bro, you're, you're insane man, I'm gonna be the insane bitch every time but you just and unfortunately, and you can't really do that because you're giving them what they want, I know, but it feels so good?
Speaker 3:no, it doesn't, because everything no, I'm like I'm fucking with you I know that, but I I understand that, but it's, it's a serious matter in that moment, because look what just happened, what we're talking about right now we know, as black people ourselves, we have to have so much self-control, we have to hold everything back, we have to bottle everything up when things like that happen, because even if you are the person who are is being um egged on, you can't react, because if the police show up or if authorities show up, then you're going to be seen as the aggressor, regardless of what started the situation. So you always have to take that into consideration and you always have to be calm and you always have to take a deep breath, like you have no other choice. It's either fucking crash out and go to jail or suck it up and move on or my.
Speaker 1:My approach in the future has been to just respond with what they do. So if you disrespect me verbally, I'm just going to disrespect you verbally. I'm gonna make you initiate the contact so that then, by law, so can now play into the effect.
Speaker 3:Looking back now, what would you have done in that situation?
Speaker 1:No problem cracker. That's not enough.
Speaker 3:Honky Peckerwood? I don't it would have had to. I would have just had to slash his tires. I don't know.
Speaker 1:But to me.
Speaker 3:I feel like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like when you do that, you give that more power to them than it has over you. So it's like you're. You're allowing the word to feel like the only way that's equal is for me to damage property or damage you, and that allows them to know the word has more power over you than anything you say to them. So to me it's disrespectful. I call him redneck, call him honky, call him.
Speaker 3:Like I'm going gonna give you the same disrespect that you gave me and I'm gonna add more sauce onto it because I'm probably gonna say a word or use a word have, but that's what?
Speaker 1:that much weight to them. Then add a stupid cracker. You could say that too, like you can add all that to it. It I'm gonna have to give you a dumb honky it can't just be, it's gonna have to be a couple sentences, the moment that you say you admit that that word has more power over you.
Speaker 3:It's going to have to be a couple sentences. I'm going to have to look around, I'm going to have to talk about, I'm going to have to mention that you fucked your cousin. You're giving the cracker a superpower.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why you would feel like you need that. Your people killed them in.
Speaker 3:Haiti. Okay, that was not here, so I'm saying like why I wouldn't understand why you would feel the need to even allow that word to mean anything because of my ego. But you can. You can demean them. It just there with your words. There's no word that has the weight to it, as like a nigga does okay, so let's that I can say to a white person honky, cracker, whatever.
Speaker 3:Those are all cute, like, like, but none of them have that weight to them and there's no comparison. The n-word has so much like ugly history behind it. There's no equivalent that I could call a white person that gives the same impact. That's what I'm saying small dick cracker would maybe like you just gotta add more songs, like yeah, that's what I'm saying small dick cracker would maybe like you just gotta add more sauce, like yeah, that's what I'm saying, it has to it'll have to be a
Speaker 1:couple sentences no I'm gonna have to. That's crazy. Giving a cracker a haiku after he called you a nigga is nuts a haiku?
Speaker 3:no, yes, that's. I'm gonna give you a verse, nigga, that's wild.
Speaker 1:Just call them a cracker back, like that's just the best way to return.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I just feel like it's not, that, it's not crack, is not that deep. Do white people get that upset by being called cracker?
Speaker 1:you had them stupid or something to it, yeah, yeah like if you just say if you just say cracker, yeah, like they're gonna be like who cares? But you're like you stupid redneck cracker like, yeah, that's gonna get. They're not gonna like that okay, I would have.
Speaker 3:I would have to look around, make some observations and read you specifically, like you'd be like this hey you, pencil dick peckerwood like come on like I would never say peckerwood peckerwood is good.
Speaker 1:That's what they call them in jail I just like that in prison.
Speaker 3:That don't roll off the tongue. That sounds like a lame ass term to me.
Speaker 1:Pencil I like pencil dick though we want to bring back a little something that we did. Uh, we saw that it worked a little, just not not too much on the youtube, but we seem like we got a lot of good feedback from the people who did see it yeah, genuine engagement.
Speaker 1:We're going to bring back the brackets and, uh, I think we got an interesting you know topic or list for this one. So we're not gonna do bbls, we're gonna be a little more in the animated. So what we decided to pick was cartoon animated moms and we wanted to bring in another friend. So we have shim back on the show friend of the show yo, yo what's going on everybody all right, let's get you a little little hand clap, a little bit going on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, clap me up, oh great.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Shim. All right, so I got the list. You got the list, Shim. You know what we're doing.
Speaker 4:I'm ready.
Speaker 1:All right, so I think we should start. We'll start with the number one seed. We got Marge Simpson going against Miss Turner from Fairly Oddparents, so I want to also, before we start, start. I want to make sure I give the criteria. So what we want to do is actual like behaviors as a mom, like being supportive. Uh, I'm just saying like that thing. We're rating them as moms.
Speaker 4:So being supportive bad bitch contest yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm rating that waist to ass ratio see, I, I just feel like that's just a weird thing, because they're drawings, most of these people yeah, but a lot of them got body, all right we could change it to that, then we're gonna be more misogynistic.
Speaker 3:Let's double down into it it's way more fun if we're just misogynistic?
Speaker 1:well, I didn't. When I added the people on here, I wasn't thinking about the way they look, so I changed some people around, I feel like I took some lookers off of here for some people who were just moms.
Speaker 3:Why would you ever do that?
Speaker 1:That was just what happened, but we could continue, so I'm not mad with it. So we're doing the hottest animated moms list. Yeah, we're going to start this off. We got Marge Simpson versus Miss Turner from Fairly Oddparents. I think this is fairly obvious. We've seen Marge get down. We've seen thege get down. We've seen the hair get. We see her let the fro for the fro down okay, when marge straightened that hair is different marge with the straight hair is is different.
Speaker 4:I can't lie, I don't even think it's my googles, though I did my googles, though y'all sleeping on miss turner, a little bit, I can't lie no, she do got the body because I did have it, she got somebody.
Speaker 3:Because there were a couple scenes where she was in a bathing suit.
Speaker 4:That bathing suit body is crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're not doing. We're not doing the square, but what you do got a little. He did hip it up. Yeah. He added a little shape to it. I ain't gonna lie to you, yeah. Yeah, don't sleep on this, turner. I just feel like Marge had higher moments. That's not he didn't draw. That, though I feel like you can't be using like alternative, like photos from, like fan fiction, my nigga. Like you, gotta use straight from the pen of the niggas who wrote the show.
Speaker 3:I'm just a little bit. I'm a little bit torn, because Marge, that's a strong black queen right there.
Speaker 1:Marge being a strong black queen is insane.
Speaker 3:Marge is a black woman. The Simpsons, that's a black family, that's a biracial family.
Speaker 4:At the maybe I'm not going to lie to y'all. I'm going to miss Turner. Bro, I can't lie. It's because of the hair Marge's hair be turning me off.
Speaker 1:Wow, so you hate black women? Wake it up, you hate black women.
Speaker 4:We see a trend it's too high. You know what I mean. I got All right so I love. Marge, but damn, you do tiebreaker.
Speaker 3:I think I'm gonna have to go with marge like all right. It's just the way that she held her arms too, like she looked a little frumpy.
Speaker 1:This next one's gonna be miss turner this next one's gonna be a little tough right here we got wilma funstone and we got judy neutron from, uh, the jimmy neutron show. This one is tough because Wilma got body.
Speaker 3:She do, and her outfit is cute.
Speaker 1:Wilma is stacked with it. Yeah, her outfit is fire. But Judy, granted, she do got a big head. But besides the big head it makes the rest of the body look like it's elite level stuff, like Judy she be holding on. She got that little Stanford wife.
Speaker 3:Kind of look to her I'm gonna got that little beauty mole true I'm gonna have to immediately go with wilma wilma.
Speaker 1:I can't be mad at wilma. Wilma has some time where she's been drawn canonical drawings. She got it. She got it going on, especially when she let the hair down too super tiny waist.
Speaker 3:I love the updo. She put the she, she put the little two it going on, especially when she let the hair down too.
Speaker 1:Super tiny waist, I love the updo she put the she, she put the little two-piece on go out, it's nuts. She got everybody saying yabba, dabba doo, I'm just being for real, not shut the fuck up I ain't never seen a nigga yabba, dabba, doo for granted hugh. Hugh does go crazy. I I believe Judy is snatched. You go crazy for that thing, man.
Speaker 4:I believe it's snatched.
Speaker 1:I believe Judy's snatched Like it bite back.
Speaker 4:He got that genius pussy.
Speaker 1:But, Wilma, Wilma, just it's just, it's too much Wilma's elite.
Speaker 4:I could. This was a hard one for me, so I could accept either answer honestly, you gotta pick one, I ain't mad. I. I could accept either answer honestly, you gotta pick one. I ain't mad at Wilma, we could vote Wilma.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's do Wilma. Yeah, I like that. Okay, so the next bracket.
Speaker 1:I think this is probably the toughest one of the first round hardest. One of the first round easy so it's gonna be Francine Smith versus Trudy Proud and both like top tier bad bitches yeah, like, especially like when the first time they drew the proud family, like trudy had a wagon, like she was carrying it after she looked good after twins.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna hold you she she, and then the, the hazel eyes and the bob it was, it was.
Speaker 1:It was vanessa williams it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, the the face was also top tier, on top of the body being top tier, and this is the first time in this bracket that we've come across that but francine strung out, francine drugged up francine.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to tell you that's good work right there, and francine is just a different level.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then francine she sounds, she looks like she had lip fillers a little bit if you know Francine's history, if you watch the show Francine she was.
Speaker 1:She was a little bit of a slut, like she was getting busy.
Speaker 3:She was definitely a little bit of a slut. She was like Jenny off of Forrest.
Speaker 1:Gump, like that's for real. That's exactly who she was, so this is why it's tough for me. Man, this, this is, I feel like I'm uh, I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna take the l for it, because I know I'm gonna get hate he about to pick the white woman going with francine smith. I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm jumping down on it, man, I'm jumping on a grenade man, y'all you know how I know I don't feel a problem with this, because y'all had no Problem color coating Francine To be sexy red, so y'all love Francine too.
Speaker 4:That's a good point that's a good point right there.
Speaker 3:I'm still going, trudy.
Speaker 4:I'm the tiebreaker. Oh man, that's tough. Cause Trudy. Like Trudy, I'm the tiebreaker. Oh man, that's tough.
Speaker 3:Because Trudy is bad. I'm going back and forth and it's just Trudy's face is better than Francine's face, and that's what pushes it over the edge for me.
Speaker 4:This is a tough one. I'm going to go, trudy, I love a light-sk. You feel me? That's my Personal weakness. I can't.
Speaker 1:That's some real sucker shit you just poured off. It's tough hey. Some real sucker shit. You did Shim, alright, we're fighting for black women on this side, sir. Okay, we biased Salute, alright, so we got the next one. Linda Belcher, this is from Bob's Burger. You did shim.
Speaker 4:All right, you're fighting for black women on this side, sir see, okay, we biased salute. All right, so we got the next one, linda belcher.
Speaker 1:This is from bob's burger and then lois griffin. I don't even think this is even a competition, even on linda's best day yeah, she doesn't stand close to lois.
Speaker 3:It's really not yeah, so we unanimously lois, all right, so we got next one.
Speaker 1:We got cartman's mom and Elastigirl.
Speaker 3:Come on now, Elastigirl Cartman's mom, took the entire Broncos.
Speaker 1:Yo hold on. Do y'all not realize that Cartman's mom slept with the entire Broncos team, the Super Bowl winning Broncos team, Like, do we not understand what this woman can do? Okay, but she also shaped like a rectangle sometimes you, sometimes the craziest things come in the wildest packages now, why did you put these two together?
Speaker 3:you wanted cartman's mom to lose. I'm trying to keep it, keep it a bean, because elasta girl like have you seen that's?
Speaker 1:that's not fair, though that's like it's not fair that's like right, that's like comparing yourself to mr. Fantastic when you know the nigga can make his meat like thicker and longer, on command exactly that ass could be as fat as you want it to be you think elastigirl could elongate and thicken her clit? Yes, she could turn it into a dick. Oh my god, she could turn herself out oh my god, we got.
Speaker 1:We went too far, we went too far shit yeah, that's, that's definitely there's me coming for y'all yeah, we jumped the shark in the second, the second bracket. Okay, that's why, again, I I'm gonna go cartman's mom, just because I respect a legacy of work. She has a body of work, she puts it down, she is a utility, she is a very, she has a lot of utility.
Speaker 4:I'll just say that a lot of utility is crazy.
Speaker 3:It's Elastigirl it's big Elastigirl on the side OD bad Elastigirl is like the Meg, the Stallion of cartoons yeah, literally so we got Nicole Watterson.
Speaker 1:If y'all haven't watched the amazing adventures of gumball, and we got mom from futurama i'ma sound like a nasty man yo you crazy this nigga.
Speaker 4:What is wrong with?
Speaker 1:this man. I'm going with mom from futurama. Yo, like that old woman got a little bit of a wagon underneath that, like have y'all ever seen futurama? She got this little thing like she's this big old woman, but really she got a nice slender figure underneath and I think it look all right on her. I'm not gonna hold you and she had three kids afterwards and it's from the future and it's future pussy it's crazy, because neither answer makes you feel good.
Speaker 9:Like it's crazy. I want to pick the cat lady.
Speaker 4:I want to pick Nicole and see a whole animal. You're going anamorphic okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad with it, I'm going anamorphic Bestiality on this side.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I agree with Shem. Neither choice makes you feel good at all. I feel like a creep. But I'm going to have to go, nicole, only because of those couple scenes where she just goes fucking ballistic Like I like that. I think that's sexy.
Speaker 1:Hey man, I'm just going to say Mom from Futurama is a like global. She's like Elon Musk of the future. So I don't know what that means A powerful woman. I'm just saying, but she can take her L All right. I think this one is going to be another tough one, not the toughest, but I think it's the second toughest one of the round. We got Dexter's mom against Jane Jetson from the Jetsons. Okay, dexter's mom, white gloves, the tightness of waist and the hippiest of hips. That ass is fat, insane.
Speaker 4:You hear me.
Speaker 3:Just crazy Red hair.
Speaker 1:Insane Ginger with the fatty.
Speaker 3:I think we all gonna pick Dexter's mom.
Speaker 1:I think this is universal. Don't get me wrong. Jane Jetson was solid now. Yeah, she kept it tight, she kept a good look. She could spend a little bit too much money here and there, but she was loyal she held it down you can't be mad at it, but I think it's without a shadow of a doubt. It was Dexter's mom yeah alright, last one. I think this one is gonna be a tough one too, but I just think right here we got peggy hill from king of the hill and we got bunny bravo, johnny bravo's mother.
Speaker 1:Now that's a sweet woman and if you look at when they drew when she was younger, she could get it done.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna lie to you I'm gonna have to go money bravo immediately, because peggy hill looks like a man.
Speaker 1:No okay, we watched the episode when peggy got dressed up by the hoe, remember when the hoe came to live at the at the hill residence and she dressed her up and put her in some heels and put the boob the girls up. Peggy was. Peggy was looking like some of you pay top dollar on the corner for now on the corner.
Speaker 3:Well, they was they was hoes.
Speaker 1:So I mean, it wasn't like she was dressing up to be like a, a prestige woman. She was trying to show off the girls, I ain't gonna let y'all do peggy like that.
Speaker 3:I'm standing on my boat going to peggy hill I think because you have um like good memories around watching King of the Hill. That's why you're voting this way, but Bunny Bravo is definitely a much better bitch by leaps and bounds. Leaps and bounds, my nigga. Look at this she was fly.
Speaker 4:I ain't gonna lie to you. She was definitely fly, she was definitely fly. I ain't going to lie to you. She was definitely fly, she was definitely fly. I'm going to have to go Peggy Hill. Oh wow, I'm with your boy. You hear me. I've seen Peggy. I've seen what she can do You've seen the potential.
Speaker 1:I've seen the potential and also this she made a baby with a nigga that had a narrow urethra. Do you know how good that pussy gotta work? Do you know how good that pussy gotta work? That's like elite level pussy. Right there, you. You was able to find the little little critters and made some shit.
Speaker 3:She made some shit. I'm uncomfortable immediately she made some shit.
Speaker 1:Shake yo, shout out to Peggy Hill, yo. All right, we're going back to to the top. So now we got Marge Simpson against Wilma, right? I believe that's where we were at.
Speaker 3:I gotta hold on hold on yep, all right.
Speaker 1:So again, marge, a one looker. We got some of the best looks for Marge. Granted, we did say it gotta be her hair down. I think that's a little anti-black.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:So I think that should be taken into consideration. To what Shem's gonna say. But Wilma with her hair down. That's crazy. Wilma with her hair down. That's a hard out. That's a tough out. Wilma done her hair down. That's crazy. Wilma with her hair down. That's a hard out. That's a tough out, wilma done got some looks now. That's really a tough one for me man.
Speaker 4:Sorry, Marge. All right, we got one for Wilma. I'm sorry, girl, I'm Wilma.
Speaker 3:I think I'm going to have to go with Wilma too honestly, I like this Because of the aesthetic and the pearls and the dress and everything. I just like the way she looks a little bit more than Marge.
Speaker 1:Marge has some good, nice pearls too, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4:I was going to go.
Speaker 1:Marge. I was going to go, marge. Shout out to the yellow ladies.
Speaker 3:All right, so now we got to go next to. We have Trudy and lois so we got another. There's a tough face off now trudy immediately, immediately, trudy, I'm crossing, do we? Do we?
Speaker 1:not remember lois when she was uh yeah, being a model lois when she was playing don't her ribs piss me off. Yo like don't piss me off yo, she already took out one elite white man. I'm not letting that happen again.
Speaker 3:Yo, I'm sure lois griffin, it's trudy face card body, everything elite, it's just the only thing is I truly is just a great value.
Speaker 1:Beyonce man we talking about lois got busy. Lois was out here spinning shit. I wish they changed her outfit more on on proud family, so that you could see her like a little bit differently even the basic outfit, the, the, the denim shirt with the, with the jeans, with lois man, I mean it's gonna be the khakis, though she got it done, got it done. It's truly for me 100 percent nah lois what you got, uh shim um, I'm I'm gonna go trud, I'm sorry. You a fucking simp dog. You a fucking simp.
Speaker 4:We love black women over here bro.
Speaker 3:No, but also like I just genuinely think that she looks better.
Speaker 4:She does. She honestly looks better in the face, the body, it all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in everything Aside from the black woman she she just All right, I think this next one will wipe down. I'm going with Elastigirl versus Nicole Watterson, so I think we need the end of the bestiality. What yeah?
Speaker 4:the bestiality is over. Nicole is the mom from Futurama.
Speaker 1:No, we voted. Y'all voted for. Nicole, y'all did the cat lady. Oh no, we voted, y'all voted for nicole, y'all did the cat lady okay, oh yeah, yeah okay, so, yeah, so elastigirl, yeah, elastigirls, she wins.
Speaker 3:Elastigirl not even around. Yeah, that's not even around.
Speaker 1:No, more the cat women, all right, and now we got dexter's mom versus peggy.
Speaker 3:Oh man, jesus what do you mean, jesus?
Speaker 4:oh, you hear him. What's wrong with him? What is wrong with him?
Speaker 3:What is wrong with him? Because we know that Dexter's mom is winning Peggy man.
Speaker 4:Easily. Dexter's mom, let's not even do this.
Speaker 1:It's not but I'm just saying, man, I might need to file for divorce. I'm just saying, man, peggy was a solid, she a solid rock.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm she is a hard-faced white bitch bitch but them, but them. Feet big what the fuck does that mean? Oh shit, but them feet big.
Speaker 4:What does that mean? Shem oh shit, I don't, I I read the fifth. I want no parts, all right man what does?
Speaker 3:no, because what does that mean? I'm just talking trash, okay I'm going dexter's mom thank you cause you're Wilding right now.
Speaker 1:Peggy had them pitcher feet though.
Speaker 4:Dexter's mom got the craziest Natural body like I don't know if. I consider Elastigirl's body Natural. She kind of got like the Superhero BBL.
Speaker 3:Right the Elastigirl, elastigirl.
Speaker 4:But Dexter's mom.
Speaker 1:So next one we got Wilma and Trudy.
Speaker 3:Y'all know my vote.
Speaker 1:You just can't. Even you just going to fake Beyonce the whole way.
Speaker 3:Y'all know I'm going Trudy. I'm going Trudy up until a point where I can't go Trudy no more.
Speaker 1:See, this is where it's tough too, because Wilma, like I said, Wilma got the down hair. Wilma, I hate to keep bringing it up.
Speaker 3:But down hair Wilma rarely happened. I Googled it.
Speaker 1:But when it did it struck it out. But I'm gonna go Trudy with this one man.
Speaker 4:I didn't mean against the black woman for too much you kind of gotta give her her credit for being the OG. But Trudy man, it's Trudy at the end of the day Trudy's voice too.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 4:I would have gave her twins too.
Speaker 1:Shout out to that man shout out to Oscarcar, proud man. All right, so who we got next we got I think we got elastigirl versus dexter's mom that's where it gets tough the wagons yeah, this is where it gets tough for real, and then whoever wins this will be up against the finals. Yeah, that's the final four right here.
Speaker 3:Elastigirl and Dexter's mom. Now we gotta get into like face and everything too.
Speaker 1:We gotta look at the reboot Dexter's mom too, because like they kind of took some stuff away from her. Let's see.
Speaker 3:Do we though? I think we gotta do our Dexter's mom.
Speaker 4:I mean, the reboot was while we were still young, I don't even know what the reboot looked like.
Speaker 1:Yeah me, neither I didn't even know there was a reboot. Yeah, they did. They changed up the way they drew A little bit, just a tad bit. It's tough, man, it's tough.
Speaker 3:Is this what she look like now?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if that's the most recent reboot. This is a hard one. I can't lie. I know they had. They changed it up just a little bit before they ended it oh my god that's crazy, that's, but that's not canonical no, it's not I know you.
Speaker 4:I know exactly what you just saw. Is it the tatted?
Speaker 1:leg picture yeah, that's crazy like what hey man, I'm not gonna give this augmented woman. She's got superpowers. I'm not really for that. You know what I'm saying. I like them all, natural, so I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 4:I respect that. I'm gonna go with elastic girl just because I don't like that's his mom's haircut. I don't know what's going on with that. Not a fan.
Speaker 1:I'm very confused it looks like a mullet a little bit but you know all the white women with the mullet got the fat ass, though that's like kind of like part and parcel with them, that kind of like it come equipped with it. Once they got a fat ass, they start to cut their hair short. That's all they know.
Speaker 3:Now I'm looking at proportions at this point, right, Because I agree with y'all, but Dexter's mom has a really, really short torso and Elastigirl has like an actual like.
Speaker 1:But she can change it around.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying it don't matter, I think I'm going to go Elastigirl.
Speaker 1:That's crazy man Disrespect.
Speaker 3:I think I'm going to go Elastigirl. So much respect.
Speaker 1:Disrespect for.
Speaker 3:Dexter's mom. Do you remember when she looked back at it in the movie? Do you remember when she looked back at it? Do you know Dexter's mom?
Speaker 1:only had to look over an inch to see that she could look back at it Like she only turned her head like a normal person to see the back of her ass?
Speaker 3:Yeah, she could see that ass in the peripheral.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, I don't even think she could wipe properly how big that ass was.
Speaker 3:No, probably not.
Speaker 1:Her arms probably couldn't Dexter had to invent something for her to wipe.
Speaker 4:Wake it up. I'm with you, that ass is fat, but that haircut is I don't know what the fuck. Amy, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm going to last. A girl based off of proportions, all right.
Speaker 1:So now we're into the, the finals, the last two. We got Trudy, who I kind of feel like is only here because of DEI, wow. And we got Alaska girl that was great who is a mutant woman. Look what we got going on here.
Speaker 3:The agenda is in full effect. I think I succeeded because I think a black and a mutant is great. We don't have no whites on this list.
Speaker 1:The last girl's a white. She's just a white mutant yeah. No, I'm going to say she's a mutant before she's white. That's a mad funny. All right. So this is this is a tough one. First, this is a tough one. I feel like I I don't feel like I should go first, though I feel like shim should go first yeah, I think you should too shim all right, I'm gonna start it off.
Speaker 4:You feel me, um, in my personal bracket. This was also the finals, so this went about the way I expected it. Um, you know, two beautiful ladies, but at the end of the day I'm gonna have to go. Superhuman ass, gotta be elastigirl.
Speaker 3:I knew it.
Speaker 4:It's a tough win. It gotta be. It's tough, but that thing is different, man. It's different.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go next, and the reason why I'm going with this is because I'm against the augmentations and enhancements and I'm going to stay in my dei realm and I'm gonna go with trudy proud for my winner. So now we're gonna put black woman at the end. It's crazy. Well, you know, when we got a chance to win man, we got to support each other and you chose not to do that oh shit, you're gonna turn it on me.
Speaker 1:It's crazy so now, fair, who are you going to support? Are you going to? Are you going to tell this that you're going to speak your truth or are you going to follow?
Speaker 3:follow your, your code you know, there's one way I want to go and then there's one way I feel like I have to go. But I feel like I'm gonna go where I want to go and I feel so horrible for picking the big booty white woman over the black woman here we go, we see true colors but I think I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1:Elastigirl, we see we see the true colors, I think.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna have to go Elastigirl, cause that is award-winning ass like come on, that's some high-level mutant milk right there, yeah, so what are we? So it's?
Speaker 1:clear that you are a girl's girl, but you're just not a black girl's girl no, I'm definitely.
Speaker 3:That is horrible. If anything, I'm a black girls girl before anything all right.
Speaker 1:Well, alaska girl, you get the round of applause yeah, that's the, that's the baddest all right well.
Speaker 3:I want to thank you we appreciate your time of course I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 4:anytime y'all want to mess, you can call me. Of course I appreciate y'all Anytime y'all want to mess you can call me All right, love you. Bye, love you guys.
Speaker 1:Peace, all right. So now I want to talk about this because we always get into black dating discussions and they always, I feel like, especially in our algorithms, take control over what we see they do and then we have, like these people who then create these ideas, men and women alike, black and black, uh, men and women they're like will create these ideas that, oh, white people aren't having these issues, aren't having these kind of dating struggles or conversations. And I just want to play this so you're familiar with, with Megyn Kelly, right.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Conservative ish journalist.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so check this out. She was talking about what a lot of women in her same ideological sphere Conservative women are going through with their problems with wanting to be working women and also be married.
Speaker 9:Right, young women. I talk to young conservative women all the time about their lives and their goals and you know the things that they want and what's happening is they can't find men who are maybe more conservative. Usually they're looking for somebody who is religious. You know, like they're, a lot of conservative women tend to be God, god loving conservatives, and they can't find a lot of young men who want to marry a working woman now, and this is an actual problem that's coming up on the right, and to me it's so sad because it's like how do we get to the point where we're now telling young conservative, amazing women that they're not attractive if they also work, if they choose to, let's say, do what I'm doing and what you're doing and like, get their voice out there. But I'll stick with me, just because I think conservatives listening to this will, like the thought of another Megyn Kelly, voice up and coming.
Speaker 9:Well, why wouldn't we want that? Why would we take somebody who's talented in this field and really wants to make a difference and have the messaging to her be, you're really not that valuable unless you give it up and go into the home and only have a family and only raise a family? And not only were you sending her that message, but young men are actually believing that. They're actually believing it, especially on the right, because, like the trad, mom has gotten so popular and it's like no, if we do that, we're not going to have any strong conservative or right-leaning women to provide a role model for younger conservative women who and there's nothing to apologize for here don't necessarily want to spend all their twenties and their thirts getting married and having kids, or can't? They just weren't able to meet somebody and definitely don't need to be shamed over it that's crazy.
Speaker 3:What reality are we based in right now? Because you're talking about conservative men, so I feel like and being surprised that said conservative men have conservative values.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's what I was wondering. I was gonna say like I feel like there are certain angles that we can attack this, and I think the most obvious one is, like you have to understand the moment you, as a woman, take on the idea that you're going to be a career-driven individual, you have automatically stated that you are no longer a conservative woman that is outside of the box of conservatism yeah, you may have conservative principles, you may align with political parties that are conservative, but you and of yourself is an act of non-tradition that's why white women don't make sense.
Speaker 3:Because that's why conservative white women don't make sense. You want to be a working woman and then you shit on feminism and things of that nature. For white women, that is the reason that you are able to work, so you can't fucking play both sides of the fence. You can't want to work and make your own money and do all this shit and be conservative, because it's fucking convoluted as fuck, and I'm glad that you're. She's pointing it out without even saying the words that actually need to be said. Y'all are stupid.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make any sense because, like I said, what, how can you expect somebody to want to go against a conservative means tradition? Yes, so how could you then expect to be with a conservative man, be a christian man, when the bible tells you, as a woman, need to learn and speak. Learn in silence. You are supposed to sit in silence. You're not supposed to teach a man. You're not to speak to a man in an authoritative way. But then you get surprised when men who identify with this do exactly what the book says that benefits them that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Megan kelly, how you live does not fall within the traditional christian point of view, and it does not fall within the traditional Christian point of view, and it does not fall within the traditional conservative point of view either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everything, that's it just doesn't make any sense, your existence is antithetical to that idea, like you're the direct opposite. The moment that you say I'm going to be for me, you are then not following the path that you say that you follow, being a religious woman Because I wanted to like. There's so many different angles to take it, but the sheer existence of the conversation is foolish. Yes, because you are trying to push out of something. You want to be one of the boys, but you want to be one of the boys, the way that one of the girls are one of the boys. You get what I'm saying like. It just doesn't make any sense. It it doesn't Like. You either follow your role in the conservative ideal or understand that your sheer desire fundamentally makes you liberal, fundamentally makes you not a conservative, and you just have to accept that.
Speaker 3:I understand wanting to be one of the boys thing. I went through that but you got to eventually grow up and let the dumb bitch tomfoolery out of your brain.
Speaker 1:like that's it's never a room you want to be in, as a room of all men they're not going to play the game that you want to play, and the simple fact is they don't benefit playing the game at your speed no like.
Speaker 1:Why would they change the rules to now allow you to thrive more? Because I think one one thing you have to assume that all of these quote unquote conservative men have the ability to house these women in the capacity that they would be at least somewhat comfortable with. So, once you add that into an effect, what does he benefit from having you out the house? What does he benefit from you, from you meeting people and talking people around, if he's going to be this conservative ideal individual?
Speaker 3:yeah, and I hate having this basic ass conversation, but this is a conversation that it gets brought up all the time. Men with a lot of money don't necessarily not a not all of them value women with a lot of money the same, like they don't fucking want that. They want you to be able to just be their comfort and like be there for them, but they don't want that from you period it, just it, that's.
Speaker 1:And that's where I guess another point where it comes to, because it's interesting to see, like what I mean. I know we say conservative but we're essentially meaning white and what I'm saying, conservative specifically, but yeah, I mean but it's, it's a dog whistle when we talk about the, the greater scope of our country for white and black yeah what they're saying.
Speaker 1:So I just think it's interesting that we had this conversation of white women saying they want to work and have their partners accept it and then, like you hear, like on the opposite end, where it's like, no, we want our partners to cover everything that we're doing, but then just, we gonna work because we, if we want to, have what black women think yeah yeah, like I would.
Speaker 3:I would prefer to not work, but if I have to, I will, and they just like oh, I want I want to work, I have to mean something, but that's because black women have been working.
Speaker 3:We never have I've said this again we never had the choice to not work While white women were in the house not working. We was in said houses working Like from like slavery time. So okay for us to want to take a break now and I'm completely fine with black women changing their state of minds a little bit, because most black women are still working but there are a lot of us who just are sitting back and being like we don't want to do this shit anymore. I'm one of those black women. Continue what you were saying.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying white women, just they. It's not that. White women have never historically really worked in this country, unless they was a poor white woman yeah so I'm saying, like white women in themselves, they don't want to want to work, they just want to play man. Like I saw this really interesting video that talked about white supremacy, like in a nutshell, and it was saying white supremacy and capitalism ultimate goal is to erase whiteness from labor. Like whiteness and labor shouldn't be two things that are synonymous essentially.
Speaker 1:And like that's where historically we have been, where elite white has made it farther and farther away from the labor production, even though they get all the means from it and I think that's in tell a lot of what white feminism is is allowing white women to be the white man to everybody else and even to the white man, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think that's why we get that, because y'all I guess I don't know how to display the experience that you would say you're feeling, but it wouldn't be something like oh, you just watching someone who's in power continue to run power on everybody. I was just like you would be seeing someone who was doing something similar, oppression-wise with regards to black men Coming up. That was too deep for you yeah, I didn't follow.
Speaker 3:I stopped listening in the middle and then started listening at the end again.
Speaker 1:I don't know that's kind of your thing. We gotta stay in, though, with these women who went to space. Man, this is insane. Who was that? This is blue?
Speaker 3:that was Elon right, that was the other one. Bezos why? Did this nigga.
Speaker 1:Send these bitches up to space so I have a question have you? You've never seen this before, like you never.
Speaker 3:You didn't know they did this like the whole space exploration I knew that this was well, let's relax.
Speaker 1:It's not really exploration, isn't insane?
Speaker 3:that's what generally they're calling it. But they're just going up to like look at earth real quick and coming right back down. Yeah. I knew this was happening for, like rich people, I guess this was like a marketing ploy to make more people want to do it.
Speaker 1:Well, they've been doing this for a while now. Like Jeff Bezos wrote it one time, he wrote it with one of the guys who used to be on Star Trek who was the main dude. They used to be star trek. You know who I'm talking about. You know? No, he's a famous, relatively famous white guy, but you don't know what are you talking about but he's done this before, where he's talking about famous star trek.
Speaker 3:White man, I have no idea what you're. I have no idea. The words that you just said are not computing in my. The audience know who I'm talking about?
Speaker 1:they might, but he uh, he's been doing this for a while. That's why I was so surprised the reaction everybody was having to this on the timeline because they was like some people like. This was the first time this happened. This is not the first time they shot people up for a couple minutes up in the space, uh, but this time they had we'll see the notable people was gail king, wasn't like jeff bezos uh, let me introduce katie Katy Perry.
Speaker 1:When, when I'm, when I'm ready, um, but no, they had Gayle King, I think Jeff, I think this is Jeff Bezos girl, and there was a a lot of other people, but the one person who stuck out for me, the person who had me emotional when I heard they were going up, was my girl, katy Perry. I, I was on the way, I was driving and when I saw this I had to pull over and I kind of like held my chest a little bit because I'm like that's, I don't want to be in a few hours here, katie perry died on a blue origin crash. Like that would have destroyed my whole day, my whole week, maybe the rest of the year, honestly this sorry motherfucker texted me and was like oh um, let me just pull it up I said I cried
Speaker 3:he said that he he cried a little bit because he thought. He thought he said I almost cried. I said why? He said because I thought katie perry died. I texted back. I don't respect you. I thought katie perry was.
Speaker 1:I don't respect you that I thought Katy Perry was going to lose?
Speaker 3:I don't respect you.
Speaker 1:That's cool. That's my favorite pop star ever Ever. The queen of pop for me.
Speaker 3:Because Lady Gaga was right there.
Speaker 1:Lady Gaga was laughing at him, though. Did you see the responses?
Speaker 3:I mean as far as queen of pop. In that same era, you had much better, other choices. That's why I continue to champion that you are a basic bitch. On this show, like you're, you're a basic bitch. You chose the basic bitch option of the two pop stars katie perry kissed a girl and she liked it, so she slapped her basic bitch, that's all it was needed for me.
Speaker 1:You want to. You want to be a bitch that fucking wearing meat on it and at the fucking award show. Sorry, I'm not cool with that. I don't want to be a bitch that fucking wearing meat on it at the fucking award show Sorry, I'm not cool with that. I don't want to smell like fucking Turkish delight, you thought that was real meat. I know it wasn't real, but I'm just making jokes. You let me eat.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 7:Yeah, because you don't want to let a real one eat.
Speaker 1:And I think this is dope too, because, like your old ex, what's his name? Russell Brand.
Speaker 3:He's brand. He's going through his issues. I'm glad to see that nigga lose every day. That's that's how I know she's a fucking loser in the first place. Why would you date russell?
Speaker 1:brand ever. He had an era where I could see where he had.
Speaker 3:He had a he's always come off as he smells bad. Yeah, but that white women like that, but also katie perry also comes off as she smells bad no, she doesn't yes, she, oh my god no, she doesn't. She doesn't when when, when the first single she was, I kissed the girl and I liked it. That's that to me she seemed like one of those white girls, have you ever sung in?
Speaker 3:space, just drunk as fuck in the parties and they smelled bad and they was just out of their minds just doing shit for real, like katie perry seems like she went in the beginning smelled bad and I felt like it made sense for her to be with russell brand because that whole house just smelled like my ass katie perry sung in space.
Speaker 1:Have you ever sung in space? No, so let's not even do that. I did feel like a lot of people show how stupid they were, though, because even like azalea banks was like I thought they was gonna be in space for a while. Why, what, what, what made you think they were gonna take six people who are not astronauts, have no scientific training, what the fuck we put them in space for?
Speaker 3:there's like mental. They're not even in space really. There's like mental endurance tests that you have to go through to like, become an astronaut. Fucking gail king and katie perry are not passing that fucking test. Gail, on the walk into the motherfucker she was just like, oh my god, why am I doing this? She definitely. She looked like all of the regret was right. You could read it on her face.
Speaker 1:It was hilarious have you ever seen like a black person doing some white people shit? Yes, she definitely. She looked like all of the regret was right. You could read it on her face. It was hilarious. Have you ever seen like? A black person doing some white people shit. Yes, that's exactly what she looked like.
Speaker 3:She had that look on her face like why am I doing this white people shit, this Caucasian nonsense?
Speaker 1:The other black girl looked like she was always down for doing the white nonsense. Like she just knew to put a smile on and press her hair.
Speaker 3:Yeah, smile on and press her hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, katie also looked like she was mad hyped to do that white nonsense well, that's she's peak white nonsense yeah, so I mean of course I'm glad you know so, but I saluted and I love it, uh, but then they end up coming back down. Everything was safe. I think that was cool. I just to me, people were just so dumb. People were like how are they breathing in there? Like like they wouldn't put air in in in the chamber, like they can't pressurize the chamber.
Speaker 3:We've seen astronauts talk to us. They don't believe that.
Speaker 1:They don't believe it's real.
Speaker 3:Over and over and over again from space, like doing interviews and stuff, and they haven't had their helmets on. Do you think that astronauts, when they're staying in space, especially them niggas? That was up there for 17 months. You think they had helmets on the entire time.
Speaker 1:Use your brain.
Speaker 3:It's hard for niggas to do that, though that shit, don't make no sense.
Speaker 1:It's hard for a lot of niggas to do and this is how I want to say we can finish off here, because this conversation sparked a lot of the flat earthers, because they saw the work around earth and all that stuff. And I I say this humbly y'all are the stupidest motherfuckers in the world. Because I need to explain. This is how y'all think and I need to let y'all listen. This is going to be an excerpt from the joe budden podcast where they are talking to mark lamont hill about flat earth who was talking to him.
Speaker 3:Ish and ice and I.
Speaker 1:I want to explain to people why this is stupid and why this is dumb before we wrap up. But y'all, y'all need to take a listen it's an ice, or mistakes? Stops the the let me ask you a question do you believe antarctica?
Speaker 6:stops the, the, the bottom. That's it. There's nothing after antarctica.
Speaker 1:There's nothing after the north pole. You believe that?
Speaker 6:what do?
Speaker 10:you mean nothing. I don't understand the question.
Speaker 6:This is Antarctica as a wall that stops you Up down.
Speaker 1:Does this stop, and does this stop at the bottom?
Speaker 3:What the fuck do you mean? Does it stop?
Speaker 1:Huh, you lost me we good, I'm not disagreeing.
Speaker 5:I don't understand what you're saying I said you're so stupid.
Speaker 1:Let me explain what he's trying to say. Have you ever looked at a globe, right? So in a globe, what he is trying to say, what is past Antarctica? Because he's saying top and bottom. So what he is trying to imply is the top of a globe is North America, as, uh, the North Pole, and the bottom is Antarctica. What he doesn't understand, and what a lot of you people who make this stupid argument don't understand, is the globe is not our planet, is not the globe model you're looking at in front of you. Down is the ground, every time.
Speaker 1:Down is the ground. So when you say what's up and down on the globe, it's the ground, my nigga. Everywhere else that's always the answer Up is the sky. So you don't point at the top of a fucking globe and say that's the top, because it's not. It's not, you're touching the ground.
Speaker 3:If I go like this, that's up, that's the sky. Up there is the. If I go like that, that's not antar, that's the floor, that's that's the ground, dirt earth.
Speaker 1:So you, you niggas, have to understand. When people get confused at the questions you're asking, it's because it's stupid questions that don't make any sense that was.
Speaker 3:That was stupid. And what were you saying earlier? About what about mark? About mark? Yeah, oh, mark, you are a half measure he was saying you need to call these niggas stupid that?
Speaker 1:that is what professor dave was telling you.
Speaker 3:You have to call stupid ideas stupid, so people know they said something dumb, Not because you are obviously smarter than the rest of these men, which you are, and not because they are wrong, which well, no because they're wrong.
Speaker 3:And if you continue to let wrong people think that they're smart, our society will crumble. Think that they're smart, our society will crumble. Very simply put, you need to let stupid people know that their ideas are nonsensical and they are not based in fact, and then they need to be shamed for that and bring back shame. I think, mark, you should have a bell on the show that you ring when niggas are being idiots. Idiot bell, idiot bell.
Speaker 1:ding, ding, ding and just make it say dunce, dunce, dunce.
Speaker 3:Yes, like when I think I think joe would definitely um get a dunce cap off he would love that. He would love that flip would have the dunce cap on every single episode, because that nigga is so fucking stupid we appreciate your apology, but we still gonna give you the shit that nigga is so fucking stupid.
Speaker 3:Like your brain doesn't work properly, you don't process things the way a human, an adult human that knows things, should process things. And then mark I love that mark is on the show now. He's so subtly shady. He undermines Flip's intelligence.
Speaker 1:They did call him short, but strong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:What I want to just say one more point to that is the thing that Mark does that gets on my nerves is when he's having a discussion with someone, he allows them to frame the argument under their terms, and their terms are generally not the consensus correct ideal.
Speaker 1:So you'll just say something that's super vague, but then you won't let them stand on it, you won't let them define their definition, so you get to have this conversation about nothing because you're just using words that don't really mean a reflection in reality, like just as we'll finish up here. Just an example he was talking to jameson will kelly one time in the space and they were talking about what he was saying to I think it was, uh patrice o'neill, about shitting on his stand-up because it was shitting on black women. And instead of saying oh, oh, you kind of manipulate the market by telling people not to go see it, he's like you should have been like no, the market is talking to people about the, the product. So if I'm promoting it or I'm dissing it, that's the free market at at any point. So you can't say to me I can't shit on it, but I have to promote it because now you're trying to dictate the market, but he allowed jameson to not properly define what the market was, and then he felt like he got the best of him in the conversation when it was an easy win if you just don't allow someone to improperly frame niggas who aren't as intelligent as you should never get the best of you in any conversation but he doesn't understand, is the ever
Speaker 1:notion that someone's having the conversation with you makes them feel like what they're saying has some type of validity. That's why I think you don't argue with a fool, because you are giving the full validation when you are having the back and forth with him, and that's I think he has to understand. You're going to discuss people things with them. You have to now define the terms and then that's when people start getting headaches and they start getting mad and all that other shit.
Speaker 1:But you want to go with the finish with this white rapper yeah, okay so there was a white rapper, mount rushmore, along with a bunch of mount rushmores that were happening yeah and I think it was, for the most part, fairly accurate.
Speaker 1:they had eminem paul wall mcmillan. I think it's fair to have mcm in there, even though because it was an untimely demise, but he represented a brand of white hip hop that I felt like should have been seen in that Mount Rushmore. Now they had Russ on there and I believe that is where a lot of the fuss came from, because Machine Gun Kelly said he didn't like that. He felt like he should be on the Mount Rushmore and then it went know, everybody started having a conversation mount rushmore is our founding.
Speaker 1:The america's founding fathers right roughly not because real technically is the only real founding father was, I think, adams and washington the other two is. Roosevelt and is Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3:What? What categories would you put Abraham and Roosevelt under? I would make so like if they're not founding fathers. They were part of, of course, with him building the foundation.
Speaker 1:Of course he was the civil war, so Abraham Lincoln was civil war, so I would be a. He was a fundamental, the person who was fundamentally changed the fabric of the country in which we understood it to be.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I would say Roosevelt represented. What an idealized version of our president that people would like to romanticize.
Speaker 3:So if we're going off of the that definition of Mount Rushmore, like founding fathers redefining and then idealized version, pull up who's on the Mount Rushmore Eminem. Paul Wall. Paul Wall. I feel like they would kind of be like founding fathers.
Speaker 1:I would feel like Mac would be the person, the person who idealized, I would say redefined see, I was gonna say, this is what I was gonna say, this okay I was gonna say I agree with you I was gonna say the fourth person should have been vanilla ice, because vanilla ice would have been like a founding father, because he was one of the first like mainstream black hip-hop artists.
Speaker 3:Then you have. You mean, yeah, white, that's what I'm saying. You said black fully.
Speaker 1:I said black oh my bad, a white hip-hop artist. He was one of the the bigger ones initially. Then you go to eminem, because eminem kind of redefined and changed everything and then to me I feel like idealized versions of those two from eminem be a Mac Miller or a Paul Wall, someone who's like super artsy into the music, like Mac Miller, and really like, feels the music that he puts out. Or you have someone who's really into the culture, like Paul Wall, who has ingratiated himself as like almost like the cookout pass. That's what I thought about. That's why I added vanilla ice instead of russ I wouldn't put russ in the conversation at all.
Speaker 3:I would think that I would say that maybe I would put mac in that like redefinition, uh category, because he was like, very much like a. I'm a white boy who grew up loving hip-hop, and that's what a white rapper should be and it should be nothing else, just a white boy who grew up loving this and he fell into it. And then I think maybe jack harlow would be your now this era's ideal white rapper, because that's also what he is. He's a white boy who grew up loving hip-hop. He came into the game with fucking psi high being his mentor with that nigga rap, rap like he's. He's not just like your la-di-da rapper. Like he, he's a very serious lyricist. So I would before, even though r Russ has been in the game for longer, I just feel like Jack has had, he's had a more solid like mainstream run, even though I know Russ has a cult following.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at it. So I got a few more things that go to and then we can wrap up Right. So I want to know is it weird that I have a favorite white supremacist? Yes, extremely, uh-huh. I just for some reason like a lot of these guys, like charlie kirk and matt walsh and matt wallace like they're clowns. They're, they're seriously stupid parrot. Put a battery, put a script in front of me and I'm a parrot, whatever you tell me, with, you know, trump's penis in my butthole yeah so like that's like that to me.
Speaker 1:I can't respect that. But this man right here, you gotta put some sauce on it, like he keep it a bean. So if you're not familiar with nick, frantz, as we talked about a bean he keep it a bean with his, with his hate.
Speaker 3:Okay, he keeps his hate, a bean he has creative hate.
Speaker 1:He keeps it. He keeps his creative hate. A bean, that's all I'm gonna say. He he says exactly what he feels and he doesn't try to sugarcoat it. Granted, he does do a little bit of the walking that I hate. I'm like yo just, really just. It's like sit in your white supremacy, but he don't. He's not really a white supremacist, he's more so like a white nationalist who feels like you, as a black man, could beat me. I'm not going to let you beat me, but you could beat me and I respect where it's like there's some truth and honesty to it.
Speaker 10:But this is him talking about you are in conservative media as a black guy that can confer upon white people the dignity of not being called a racist for having their views. That's why you get paid and that's why I don't, because I didn't have the privilege of being born black, I was born white. So there's a limit on what I can say. There's a limit on what I can say without being penalized in the so-called free marketplace of ideas. And everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody, everybody knows, and everybody's sick of it, especially in the conservative space, that blacks have had it easy. It is right here, person. I'm sure he's a sincere person, I'm sure he's genuine, but you are playing by a different set of rules, pal. You have training wheels on.
Speaker 10:You think you've earned it, everything you have. Take a look around at your studio, your contract, your employees. If you said the stuff that you said as a white person, your ass would be fucking gone. And everybody knows that. You're on Blaze hosting E Michael Jones talking about the Jews. It's a good fucking thing you're black, because if you weren't, you would have been fired like Elijah Schaefer. You would have been fired like every other white person. Everybody knows that. Take a good look at everything around you, because you did not compete to get that. You got it because people feel sorry. People don't want to be called racist, they feel sorry. They need a black person to give them credibility. And if you can't see that, then you're just as ignorant as BLM. If you can't see that, if you can't be honest with yourself about that, you're just as ignorant as the marchers, as a matter of fact, are yo, nick yo, you are nick fuentes man.
Speaker 1:You are the biggest pussy clown on the internet. But I respect it, yo. I respect it like honestly, I want to get our, our show into a position where you can become my rival. That's what I want. I want to be able to destroy nick fuentes on a whim. I want to be able to call nick fuentes and shit on him, like I want us to be able to call him up on hey man, hey little cracker, what's going on? Yeah, all right, here's this little fucking yellow bean. Like I want this is a really stark. I want us to have discourse like that. I want to be able to call nick and me and him just say racial epithets to each other for 30 minutes. I would love that. That would mean.
Speaker 3:That would mean the world to me that is so like you to have like an ideal op he is.
Speaker 1:I feel like he's not because he's not smart enough, so I feel like he can get me with uh intelligence, but he does believe wholeheartedly the stupid shit he says and that would entertain me enough to continue to call him an idiot through the entire process who else would be on your list of ideal?
Speaker 1:honestly, a lot of them are cowards like I sit there and I'm just like you're all clown, like even. At least tim pool actually showed a little bit of uh, you know muscle or not muscle. He showed a little bit of courage about himself to actually stand up because he actually supported carmelo anthony. He's actually one of the few white conservatives who were supporting carmelo anthony, but you can tell the reason why tim pool was supporting carmelo anthony because he was the type of white boy that got bullied and he would pull a knife out on niggas.
Speaker 1:So like you I understand that feeling big dog like that's the only reason he was supporting that. But the rest of these crackers, they're just clowns. They just they pirate misinformation. It pisses me off. What's going on that man in el salvador, how y'all keep calling him a gang member. Y'all are trash freaking liars.
Speaker 3:But I don't want to make it too political when it's the complete opposite of that it's just disgusting it's fucking, it's sad, it's so sad and I'm I'm surprised he's still alive, and I also want to say jd vance.
Speaker 1:I completely understand why your mom chose the drugs over you. You can't even pick up a trophy without dropping it like come on, you're an idiot.
Speaker 1:You're like the. You're like the the most disappointing blessing ever. Like that's exactly what you are the most disappointing blessing that ever happened to your mother, uh, but I want to finish up with this. Uh, because I thought this was really interesting about disclosing sexual health and what that means and what that should look like under, like the new world we live in, where you can take medicine now and not even become to be able to be detected on a test or anything, and like what does that really mean and what that should? Because, even though we have a lot of this technology that is, uh, in medicine that's helping people we still have the stigmas, and it feels like now the stigmas are trying to even be even stronger than they were in the past the stigmas yeah, yes, people are still getting criticism.
Speaker 1:Just in the space that we talked about the beginning of this episode, someone got accused of having a bumpy dick like who saw his dick they were just used. They were just saying because discussions had happened. There were things in the media that were people had claimed things about somebody having a particular Was it?
Speaker 3:Joe, yeah, okay, you could have just said that. It makes no sense for anybody else to have known whose dick looks like what.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it makes more sense. The first thing no, Salute. All right.
Speaker 3:I did hear that.
Speaker 8:I'm HIV positive, right, and this is just a PSA to those that are not HIV positive. Disclosure is my choice. When I disclose and how I disclose and who I disclose to is up to me. I find it so crazy how people are telling me that I need to disclose before I go on a date, that I need to disclose before I kiss somebody this is the craziest one Before I even tell them my name, it's not happening. I don't think that it's my responsibility to tell someone that I'm HIV positive if they are treating me as if I'm not.
Speaker 8:Your health is your responsibility. Adopt the mindset of medical practitioners. Assume that everyone has something until they prove to you that they do not. Why are you kissing a stranger or trying to kiss a stranger that you just met? Why are you trying to have intercourse with someone raw that you just met? You don't know me from a hole in a wall? Why are you trying to put your thing inside of me without any kind of protection? Why do I have to be the one to say, hey, chill out, I'm hiv positive, instead of you asking, taking the time to know me, get to know me, let's go get tested together if you want to take the next step. Why do I have to be the one protecting you from yourself? No, baby, that is not my responsibility, and I just I 100 agree with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with her too like I believe, disclosure is especially at this time, even before then, even before the medicine, stuff like that is an intimate thing because, like I said, people use it as a quick and easy tool for shame yeah and they don't.
Speaker 1:It's not like we're using it. When we talk about people who are having certain conditions, we're just discussing it solely under the ideal of uh, sexual health. That's not we're not. When you hear, when you use words like disgusting and gross and you talk down on people, you are no longer discussing personal health. You are shaming them for a condition. And when we say, bring shame back, we're saying shaming for actions that you were in control of or things of that nature, not shaming because you have a virus that's in your body never for that, because, if I think what she was saying, you don't need to disclose before a first date.
Speaker 3:You don't need to disclose before you kiss somebody, because a first date and a kiss would not expose your partner to what she was talking about if she, if you're hiv positive, that's not exposing the person to hiv. Um, it is your responsibility to keep your own health at the top of your mind and honestly, even when you go to the.
Speaker 1:So because I'll even be open, right, I had a situation where it wasn't hiv, but someone I was uh with didn't tell me that they had something, and they didn't disclose that to me even when I asked they had lied to me.
Speaker 1:But even then, like I understood why they lied to me, because I understood what people would say when they thought of that particular thing. Like people would shame you, people want to look down on you, they want to create stories, they want to act like you're this, this plague. And who are you to assess that of somebody off of something that you don't know nothing about the story? Like there's a difference between judging a girl, judging a guy who's going out here having raw sex and not, you know, maintaining their professional, their sexual health and that being a priority to them. That that's one thing. But just because somebody has that, you can't assume that yeah.
Speaker 3:I do think, though, like there are certain situations in which you should disclose, even if it's not asked, like if you're about to have sex and you know you're positive for anything like I think, if somebody asked you, then you should be honest, but it's not your responsibility then, I think, is it? Is it not like a criminal offense, if you don't? No, because it's if you have sex with somebody knowing that you have a disease that they can catch, and then you do that to multiple people, you can get arrested.
Speaker 1:So the crime in and of itself is actually being reckless while you're doing.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:So if you are taking your medicine and encouraging the person to use safe sex, or if you are the male using protection, then you are not being reckless with it yeah but if you are a girl and you have it and you ask the gentleman to use it, he declines or says I want to go unprotected. You allow him. That's on him. He made that choice.
Speaker 3:It's not a a legal choice, but it is a morally corrupt choice.
Speaker 1:No, to me. I don't like painting it as a moral thing, because then you allow the stigma to rule the conversation when it should be a personal health choice.
Speaker 3:I think, if you like, if I'm like, if I have, like I don't have anything, but if I am like, positive, if I have herpes or something, and then, um, a guy's like, no, I don't want to use a condom, you don't have to say that you have herpes.
Speaker 1:If you told him to request it and he said he didn't want to, that means he is foregoing any risk that could potentially happen when y'all intergage in this sexual intercourse and that's going to be his responsibility. I think that's morally shaky. I don't think it's morally shaky, I do. Where is the deception at?
Speaker 3:and you just not telling the person.
Speaker 1:That's not deception though.
Speaker 3:Because the person is not using protection, assuming that they're fine. You should never assume that you're fine. Yes, we've already laid that foundation. You should never assume that you're fine. But if there is one party that knows that you're not going to be fine, is it not up to you to be like, hey, like no, that's not their body I don't know, I I feel like it is and also I would.
Speaker 3:I would feel the responsibility, like even if I I had something that was, uh, okay to have sex with, with with protection, and the man was like I, but I don't want to use protection, I would insist you can't insist or you can decline that you, you have that right to choose.
Speaker 1:I'm what I'm saying is, if you consent to the sex and that person does not care about their own sexual health, that's not a priority to them, that is not now your job or your responsibility. Because to disclose that?
Speaker 3:because, like I said, a lot of these medicines make it so that you can't transmit either yeah, well, if that's the case and you are on, uh, some type of medicine that does not allow you to transmit, then I don't think you need to disclose but I'm saying regardless you're still considered hiv positive, you're always going to be considered hiv yes, yes, yes, but you're. If you know for a fact that you're not putting this person at at in harm's risk, in harm's way, then I think that's a completely different situation.
Speaker 1:But that's where we're at largely morally.
Speaker 3:No, I'm sorry, this is a moral I'm saying if you if you're taking that into consideration.
Speaker 1:Where we're at right now, modern day, with medicine, you can almost that stuff has come to where it's not detectable. It's not detectable and it's not transmittable for a lot of times, a lot of that's what the point of the medicine is to do. So if you are adding that into your consideration again, it is not anyone's importance to divulge that. If you care about your sexual health, you conduct yourself with your sexual health. If you say, hey, I want to see your documentation before we engage in sexual health, then do that. But you have the right to do that. It's your job as a person to require what is for you, for your boundaries. It is no one else's job to assess boundaries for you, to be a protection measure for you.
Speaker 1:It is your job and if you don't want to be accountable or responsible for that, you will suffer the consequences yeah, I just for even in my situation where the girl lied to me, I still risked it by performing what the way I did, and I was just fortunate that I came out with nothing. But it was my error because I should have been prioritizing me. So that's just where I'm not going to sit there and blame that person, because, again, I know how horrible people are to each other about those things. So it's like why would you want to tell someone I got the scarlet letter on me if I don't have to? But I think we did it, man, I think we got to it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we definitely did.
Speaker 1:We did our thing, man Proud of us. We did our biggest of ones.
Speaker 3:I don't think. I feel like we definitely just don't have to agree to disagree on that last topic like we.
Speaker 1:We definitely just don't have to agree to disagree on that last topic. I mean, I to me. What would, what would be your argument that somebody and if you don't want to say we don't have to, but what would be your argument to say you're entitled to divulge something about your body? That was going to come with criticism? That wouldn't have happened if that person didn't know this information. Why do they? Why are they entitled to?
Speaker 1:that if it directly puts me in harm's way, but we just not knowing whatever information that you said, that that you think that I need to know but if you don't require that before engaging in the sex, then why is that my problem?
Speaker 3:it's irresponsible, but I think it's irresponsible on more than one side absolutely all right.
Speaker 1:Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together. And but I think it's irresponsible on more than one side Absolutely All right. Life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together. And remember your job is not your family. The only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations. Tell them what they need to do.
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