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Shannon Sharpe Threatens White Women, Sinners Peak Black Cinema, and Lebron Gets Punked By Kevin Gates
What happens when our cultural values clash with modern realities? This episode dives deep into the tension between tradition and progress, starting with a hilariously relatable story about movie theater experiences with our parents that had us cringing and laughing simultaneously.
The conversation shifts to serious territory as we unpack the Shannon Sharpe scandal, examining how the release of intimate text messages complicates but doesn't address assault allegations. We carefully navigate the complex intersection of consent, celebrity, and the court of public opinion, questioning why the case moved directly to civil court and what that might indicate about both parties' motivations.
Our analysis of Ryan Coogler's "Sinners" reveals a powerful metaphor where vampires represent the dangers of cultural integration. We celebrate the film's stunning musical sequence connecting African American history through the Blues, while warning against misinterpreting the movie as romanticizing segregation. The standout scene where Michael B. Jordan delivers justice to racist oppressors prompts us to question why audiences aren't more openly celebratory of such cathartic moments in Black cinema.
The LeBron James and Kevin Gates feud launches a broader conversation about relationship dynamics, expectations, and the problematic history surrounding Black men and conflict. This segues into a passionate critique of "religious psychosis" – how faith can be weaponized to justify tolerating disrespect and mistreatment in relationships.
We close by discussing the impending return of student loan collections and how garnished wages will devastate an already struggling economy. The conversation offers no easy answers but provides thoughtful perspectives on the economic challenges facing our generation.
Whether you're here for cultural analysis, relationship wisdom, or economic insights, this episode delivers raw, unfiltered commentary that will make you think, feel, and maybe even change how you view these complex issues.
Kanye's out here sucking d*** man and it's crazy dog. I want to put my tongue in your a**hole and then marry you.
Speaker 2:I knew Shannon.
Speaker 1:I if if there was anything that I would bet my money on in sports, is that Shannon be getting his a** ate and being an atheist and dating religious women is probably like because you can just get through everything by saying god gonna figure us out. Then what you do is you present all of your information to a trusted journalist, preferably somebody who's a black woman, because when you get in trouble with these white women you must put the black woman bat signal in there. Air Call your women.
Speaker 3:I hate you. You see who I'm next with.
Speaker 1:Whenever I got any of these tough conversations here, I got my woman's. I'm like the wind.
Speaker 2:You not a foundation here one day? Go on the other. No the fuck, I'm not. I've never been a foundation. So shout out to her for being a foundation.
Speaker 1:She big as a foundation too. Big as one. Well, foundations can't be, uh, choosers you are way too old.
Speaker 2:You remember a time of jim crow. Why are you with a 19 year old, only fans girl? Y'all have absolutely nothing in common other than a hole and a pole. That's the only thing y'all have in common. God was yelling in your head louder than the disrespect. That's beautiful. That's religious psychosis.
Speaker 1:That was beautiful right there. Glorious scene at the end that I was so disappointed in our theater when we first went to go see it where Michael B Jordan slaughters a field of racist white men, men and I think every movie should end like that to a man that violated your wife, that is, and he hung you out like he lebron got at his job. Example to these women. Don't let them turn, uh, your love and admiration into slave talk. Okay, now don't listen to.
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Speaker 3:That's it. Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives.
Speaker 1:What the f*** do you think your f***ing ass is doing on that podcast? Now I think I have to make a decree, Like I'm probably never going to the movie theaters with my mom again.
Speaker 2:I think I agree with that. That was probably one of our worst decisions.
Speaker 1:Because, I mean, I thought it was a nice idea that you know we go see the movie together. All four of us Thought it'd be kind of chill, kind of cool. I wasn't expecting I should have.
Speaker 2:You should have. I know her. It was so comical and stereotypical.
Speaker 1:It was. That was the worst part about it, Like I'm glad we went to a black movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because if this was not that, something may have occurred.
Speaker 2:Nothing would have occurred, but we just would have been cringing more.
Speaker 1:So we went to go see Sinners and we'll talk about that later on in the episode. But I want to just kind of highlight, just like my mother's performance of her own just in the theater. Like she even like, found a little teammate. They was having a little acting duo together.
Speaker 2:They was yelling out stuff in the movie.
Speaker 1:together she found a partner, all the stereotypes, just like you said I'm talking about. Oh, don't get up. Oh, you better run. Oh no, he didn't. All of that.
Speaker 2:All of those things that I have never. I've never experienced that with the person that I'm at the movie with. There's always at least one or two of those, especially in black movies.
Speaker 1:But I've never, I've never been like with the person. I was just like, oh my god, and then and then. Then you have stuff that's only for her that she would be the only one to say, like when he was talking about eating the box, what did he talk about?
Speaker 2:just just, and then when he, when he was praying, she was was like yup, you better go ahead. Like she was cheering for the fact that he started praying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's probably going to be the last I can take my dad to the movies. He's going to be quiet, you know he's going to chill. He's going to let out a couple giggles.
Speaker 2:He might wear a weird hat, but you know we can do with that. He took the hat off when he got in the theater.
Speaker 1:He was looking a little squirrely. It was kind of people were questioning him. They didn't think probably was my dad they definitely knew he was your dad. He definitely looked like a gay uncle with that hat on.
Speaker 2:He didn't look gay with the hat on. Now the hat did not match the aesthetic of the rest of the fit, but I'm not gonna let you do pops like that.
Speaker 1:He didn't look gay. That was the first thing I said to him when we walked up there I did not hear you say that, like I was like, take that gay hat off yo oh, you can't express no type of style around this man because he thinks everything other than button downs and polos is gay.
Speaker 2:100, just like the, the, just a very rigid box of boring ass.
Speaker 1:Heterosexuality hey, man, that's how we get it done and I'm not gonna be ashamed of it ever, ever. But no, we had a good time like that. We loved it. We can't wait to share our thoughts about the movie with y'all. Definitely going to get to that, uh, but just don't bring, don't bring your, your parents of color, to the movies, man.
Speaker 2:They're gonna embarrass you every time, every time no, if we brought my mom, she would have been asking us questions the whole time, like we, not all watching a movie together at the same time finding out things together my mom was doing that too, though she was I didn't do. You know what though?
Speaker 1:you were fortunate. You were all the way at the end I was.
Speaker 2:We were at opposite ends of the group, but you know what, at the, the yelling out things didn't bother me too much, but you know how I get overstimulated with like repetitive sounds. So she I don't know if she had like a nylon-y jacket on, but she was just no, no, no, that wasn't a nylon jacket.
Speaker 1:That was the cushion she brought to sit down, and she still had the plastic around the cushion.
Speaker 2:She was just rubbing the the crap out of this. So much friction for like two minutes at a time and I'm just like I know it's only bothering me because my brain isn't wired correctly all the way no, she definitely was making enough like electrical static energy. She could have like energized the whole movie theater I thought she had like a like a windbreaker on. It sounded like she was sitting there with a windbreaker on. Just I was just. I was just like what is happening over there. I can't see it was.
Speaker 1:It was a mess, so that's just gonna be the next time, it's just straight to the deep, uh, to streaming. That's all you get, mama. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:We love you though we were highly entertained, though we had a story, so appreciate you, mom all right, so let's get some music going.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have a little bit of you. Come back to me, come back. I need you in my life. I miss you. I miss you. Come back to me. I miss you. What's up, baby? It's been a while. You been good. I've been around Different girls, different towns. They keep it real. You missing out. I'm on board. This is definitely a keeper. You, this is definitely a keeper. You shouldn't think this one in the trash. What, kevin? You shouldn't think this one in the trash.
Speaker 2:This song is beloved and it's amazing and that's why I know that your music taste is so gutter ball garbage. You disappoint me with your music taste the most out of everything. Let me listen to this good song, and it's Dom Kennedy's song.
Speaker 3:Dom Kennedy. He's loud and warm today. Can't believe that I'm her focus. Yeah, I can see. She got me going and together we are rollercoaster.
Speaker 9:Oh, oh, what's up, love. It's been a while you been good. I've been around. Remember dinner dates? I was late, mr Chow Chore on like a student, you the principal School, me on timing. We was both shining Like the sun, bouncing off the brightest blood diamond. I was your highness, you was my queen. You got over him when I got in between. Watch your mind. No TBS, it was TDS For us to eat TV dinners every time we was famished. But here was such a pleasure to watch you try to hold it together. Every time I put the head in you would panic. Then come right down like a hamper latch, make your legs slant, whisper to you, juicing up your pants. Baby, how that sound. Kosher noser waking back up. Folgers posters by my waistline. Shot for your heart and you called it a hate crime. Say you want me back and your girl wanna date Dom. That's high school shit. 401k. We could be friends with benefits. You dig that that girl is smoking. Can't believe that I'm her host. I love this hook.
Speaker 3:Hard to say. She got me open. I love a A telling a story In a song. Here we go again. What the fuck you talkin' bout? We used to fuck all the time back at my mama's house Smokin' BDs, layin' on a Bhutan Memories. I got saved up like a coupon and we'd be two gone off a sack of stress weed. I was broke then, couldn't cop the best weed and she would just leave in a black hatchback. Homies from the hood used to ask me if I tapped that I would say yeah, smile and soul freely. That was back All right, and we are on the coast and on, on on.
Speaker 1:All right you are now. Yo mind your cue dog.
Speaker 2:Wait till your cue okay.
Speaker 1:No, it's going to come for you. You relax, I ease up, we back Talk.
Speaker 2:FNF TV With rhetoric. No, I'm kidding, that's right Back Talk. Fnf TV with rhetoric.
Speaker 1:No, I'm kidding. You are now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host. Absurd Rhetoric on my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Farrah Hi, bringing back the claps. All right, man, we got to get into this. I'm hurt because we we've discussed, like our ties that well, my ties to this. You know good college alumni mates that I knew like their father is being ran through the mud. Uh, for some recent allegations.
Speaker 2:So if y'all not familiar, so well, we don't know yet, rightfully so you can't do that no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you my opinions.
Speaker 1:You go ahead it is guilty until proven innocent.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, innocent until yeah, no, you was right the first time. Shit was crazy. Men should fight their way out of jail innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1:So if y'all not aware, shannon sharp, you know in a, you know former n NFL great tight end, hall of Fame tight end, espn sports analyst Club, shay Shay all the above Undisputed creep Just recently had a civil lawsuit. It's important to note that Civil lawsuit that up to $50 million, I believe, is what she's asking for.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what she wants, and in this lawsuit.
Speaker 1:This woman who at one point was named a jane doe, will release her name in just a moment, unfortunately again, but shannon released her name, so yes, basically claimed that shannon sharp had brutally assaulted her, you know, physically abused her graped her two times yeah, two times um and was just manipulative in general and was a shitty, shitty man, yeah, and they kind of allegedly and it kind of outlined that you know where they met, that she met him when she was 19 at the gym.
Speaker 1:And then their process kind of just grew into what it was. She said it was kind of messy and complicated. Is what kind of what I read?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I thought was interesting? She said that, like they, they met at the gym and then they went to his house and then he kind of just walked up to the bedroom without saying anything and then she just followed him up there.
Speaker 1:That's weird. I mean, it's not if you into the life. Of this is what my job is when I'm around men that have money Plus.
Speaker 2:Allegedly this girl is an.
Speaker 1:Is is an only fans model, carly, so okay, all right, before we get into the jokes, young, let's get into the serious matters. Let's make sure it's 100 serious matter, but let's get into.
Speaker 2:At least you know what's been reported, what's going down the t and the timeline and whatnot, so it was going down the t and what not and what not.
Speaker 1:So it was tuesday, I believe, when this occurred. Uh, this lawsuit came out, yeah. So tmz on it was two days ago said that he was sued for 50 million dollars. Uh, which alleged grape allegations, essentially assault. Shannon almost immediately responded uh, he identified the woman as gabrielle zaniga.
Speaker 2:I thought that was an interesting name zoo nigga is crazy, that's what she be calling him that's exactly what she'd be calling that nigga he'd be letting her to call them zoo nigga, probably be beating his chest and everything. So I'm on him.
Speaker 1:I'm on shannon's page right now I'm on to you, nigga I want you to read. I want you, I'm gonna read the first text message that he posted. This okay, the first thing that says his statement that came from Lanny Davis. Lanny Davis, I want you to put a dog collar around my neck and choke me while you're fucking me. They freaked out October 7, 2023.
Speaker 2:They over there freaked out.
Speaker 1:So I do want to give a little breakdown here, have a little breakdown here. Just says this lawsuit uh that was filed by gabriella zuniga and orchestrated by attorney tony busby, who is the same attorney who, uh, was suing jay-z and is also part of the diddy uh lawsuits that are coming, is a blatant and cynical attempt to shake down, shake down mr sharp for millions of dollars.
Speaker 2:It is a file with lies, distortions and misrepresentation and it will not exceed I just want to start out by saying if you are a serious victim, I don't think tony busby is the lawyer that you should go to, because at this point his reputation is linked to slander and fraud and unbased um accusations.
Speaker 1:So true, true that his reputation is, but he has shown results and has also won cases in these regards.
Speaker 2:I just feel like right now, as soon as somebody sees that your name is attached to Tony Busby's and you're accusing somebody of something, the recent thought is he's not legit, he's just trying to get money.
Speaker 1:So afterannon responds with that message. Everybody's kind of going crazy about what was in his actual. We didn't even go into deep great detail about it. There was discussions of baby gravy can we know, can we read? You want to read some of them?
Speaker 2:yes, all right, we'll read I thought you were gonna read all of them.
Speaker 1:That's why I didn't pull them up okay, uh, so the next one that was on. I'm just gonna read the text messages. I know you missed this big juicy ass 25k for each cheek. That was earlier this year. Only if you put that baby gravy in me, then I can do whatever I want to me or whatever you. Yeah, what she said, I can do whatever I want to me she meant you can do whatever you want to okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on, gabby, get better. I want to put my tongue in your asshole and then marry you I knew shannon I if.
Speaker 2:If there was anything that I would bet my money on in sports, is that shannon be getting his ass ate honestly, that's my daddy fuck. I want you to put a big black baby in me she was literally so horny that she could not even think straight.
Speaker 1:Like big black baby, yeah, big black baby. She's like you. Better crave it, because you're gonna be stuck with it for life. After you put a big black baby in me, like who? This is clearly like a 19 year old thinking she's just doing what this old man wants her to say they be doing plantation play she definitely be coming out like she, a master's daughter yeah, and she was like shannon, come inside.
Speaker 1:My dad has went to north carolina's for the week so he won't be back till the morning I'll come in there and I'll lay this big black pipe in your but what if he found? Out marianne, your dad is gonna kill you think she's fucking you. You think she called him nigger, uh, nigger shannon. Like you know from like huckleberry finn, nigger jim.
Speaker 2:She called him nigger shannon well, I, I, I don't know about that, but I know for a fact that he'd be like call me nigger big nigga, call me big nigga like when you're nasty call it, call this nigger dick, okay. So I want to get into the next part.
Speaker 1:so this this came out from TMZ shortly after well, I think the next day after Shannon's release of his messages, Mm-hmm. So we'll get into this right here.
Speaker 5:Anything I say, you're just going to like, get mad at and you're just going to hang up on me.
Speaker 10:so I feel like I'm not going to hang up on you, because what is it? I'm not going to hang up on you. Here's what it is.
Speaker 8:What does that even mean?
Speaker 10:Nothing, gabby, you want to be a dick to me now, so I don't want to be.
Speaker 5:Don't manipulate me.
Speaker 10:I don't know, if you say that one more time, I'm going to choke the shit out of you when I see you.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ Shane.
Speaker 5:Thank you, you, but I see you. Jesus christ shayna, thank you. Oh, I don't want to be choked?
Speaker 10:yes, you do. I don't think you have a choice in the matter that sounded like shayna the the the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a little. I don't think you have a choice in the matter. Why would she not have a choice in the matter of being choked?
Speaker 1:so then, literally after that happens, shannon's team goes on the offensive again immediately to the point where they didn't get this man to mic. He recorded off the camera mic for this one right here, so just check this out. This is the next part that shannon drops in regards to response to that audio.
Speaker 10:To my family, friends, supporters and colleagues. I want to speak to you directly and from the heart. This is a shakedown. I'm going to be open, transparent and defend myself, because this isn't right. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Busby, who has targeted Jay-Z. Tony Busby targets black men and I believe he's going to release a 30 second clip of a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty and play into every stereotype. You could possibly imagine that video should actually be 10 minutes or so. Hey, tony, instead of releasing your edit, put the whole video out. I don't have it or I wouldn't myself. You know what happened and you're trying to manipulate the media.
Speaker 10:The encountering question took place during the day at her invitation, and now that appears to be a deliberate setup Coordinated by Gabby, also known as Carly on OnlyFans. Gabby and Tony Busby want $50 million. What they're getting is sued for defamation and trying to take me down. My career is all about real talk and honesty. I know my family and fans know exactly what this is about and I'm going to be out there telling you whatever I need to say, just like I always do. I love all you guys.
Speaker 1:That last part sounded a little fishy, Like don't tell me you're going to tell me whatever you need to say, Like that's not like you're telling me you're going to lie to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's exactly what that means.
Speaker 1:So after that, you know getting the Internet still reacting, everybody's having their conversations, and then there's another audio that drops today and I want to say this one is probably a little bit worse. This one is a little bit more aggressive, but I will say I have to say this in all honesty this one sounds a little altered, so I'm going to play this one.
Speaker 2:I didn't hear this one. It was only the first one that I heard.
Speaker 5:Well, you're coming to LA tomorrow. Yes. Well, I don't know why you want to go out. Don't worry about it, Gary. Well, I don't know why you want to go out.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about it, daddy, because he's so short. You see, Well, okay.
Speaker 5:Okay, what Well? I'm not really interested in getting choked. So I guess we're going.
Speaker 10:Yeah, I might choke you in public. Big black guy choked small white woman it's not a good look, shannon you're not a good look that you did with the shit you did to me okay, well, are these voice notes?
Speaker 2:it sounds like to me in just the way it's not, either like it's cut up of his voice or like he cuts his mic off after he talks yeah, or they sound like voice notes that they were sending to each other, that she's like playing back and forth and recording, but I don't know, that sounds weird it was real.
Speaker 1:Ah, just one. Just hearing that one like to me that one felt more doctored than all the other one that we played yeah, because all of the long ass pauses between each reply, it was both of them taking forever to reply.
Speaker 1:That's why I think maybe it was voice notes well, let me do the responsible thing first before we get into this. This is a serious case. Uh, an assault has been uh alleged, and when this ever happens, regardless of what you think about the people involved, you must always go into it with uh good faith intentions in regards to how you observe and uh create a opinion about this, because, again, this is something that's extremely serious, um, and we just don't want to be irresponsible in regards to that.
Speaker 2:No, and we don't want to victim blame and we don't want to come off insensitive.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the first thing I just want to talk about this when we go into it is about what Shannon is. Again, I'm not going to say if I believe he did or didn't do it, but what he failed to do with all the information that he presented, was actually show that he did not assault her like. That's what people keep trying to react to these and ignore the fact.
Speaker 2:How could he show that he didn't assault her though I get that.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying is, when you bring these out, you're bringing information to try to push the narrative to your side that you didn't do anything and what's being alleged is that you assaulted this woman. If you bring these text messages out, they don't show that you didn't assault this woman. If you bring these text messages out, they don't show that you didn't assault this woman. They just showed that y'all had a sexual relationship that was consensual yeah, a sexual consensual relationship, and that does not matter, because assault can still happen.
Speaker 2:It well, no, yeah, it it does matter. No, I I agree with you, my bad, that that wouldn't, it doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 1:So that's why I mean, like you hear people say, oh, this girl a trick, or she a whole, or all this other stuff, they can still be assaulted.
Speaker 1:Those women can all still be assaulted and she can take her consent away at whatever point that she wants to, and and I feel like shannon's team is doing a lot of the what I would say the correct moves they have just executed it horribly, like I don't know who is in the room it can't be enough women in there because I don't know what woman in her right mind would tell you to release these text messages, because all you're going to try to do is slut shame her. That's all you're doing with these. Nothing else is being made apparent from those messages, except you're just trying to tell people this was somebody who was having relations with.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then look at how she's perceiving my black body, when you probably was given the green light on all of those kind of conversations, all of those things, 100.
Speaker 1:She probably learned it from what you was telling her to talk to you like she's 19 years old again. That's all legend and things that nature when y'all met allegedly I just want to put in perspective, when people have these conversations, to understand like you're really promoting grape culture when you are creating the arguments that you're trying to stand on, when you say that this woman no way she could be assaulted or whatever, because of x, y and z, because of his fame or because of what her lifestyle is yeah, you can still be assaulted as only fans, but there is plenty of reasons to be skeptical.
Speaker 2:Again, you brought up the tony bunsby uh situation, the fact that he's involved in this I just think, after the whole jay-z thing and how hot of a mess that was to choose to go with tony busby to be, your representation is like a shaky decision because there are so many other lawyers that you could go to what's her name?
Speaker 2:the, the woman lisa, like I think that's probably the first person you should go to with these types of cases, versus a tony busby at this point and then, well, I don't know if she's she can practice law, but this happened in nevada.
Speaker 1:But then you also got to add into another uh effect in regards to why is it not being a criminal case? Because this isn't a case. That was 10 years ago. This was a case that happened two years ago two seconds ago.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, earlier this year she said this happened.
Speaker 1:So why is that not being? I think those would be good questions to ask, to figure out again. I can understand why certain women wouldn't want to go through criminal trial and would just want to settle it civilly yeah, uh, just because, like there's so much that kind of goes into it more when it's criminal.
Speaker 1:I've seen women go through it in regards to they've been assaulted and they've gone through the uh, criminal, the channels in regards to trying to get this person criminally prosecuted. And the girl that I know she specifically told me after the process she felt worse than after the assault, like the it just the salt would have happened. That would have just been enough. But for her to go through the assault, then go through the court system and for it to not you know bear any fruit.
Speaker 1:It was just like I just embarrassed myself for the world for nothing, yeah, and so that's where I'm like I understand why some women won't do that. And then some more information came.
Speaker 2:I feel like also though, because civilly you could probably stay anonymous, like stay a jane doe, but in a criminal case you can't right because it's it's public yeah, I mean yeah, well, I think with the civil the civil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right with the criminal case. It does have to eventually come out because they need to identify you as a witness and things like that.
Speaker 2:But uh, the jane, though, you can remain it, but generally that comes out eventually too yeah, do you think that it was a aggressive move for him to out her and be like? This is the person who's doing it.
Speaker 1:Well see, this is the problem that I have, and I'm glad you asked that question, because this is the problem I have for what he did, and it had no tact to it. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Like the fact that you shouldn't have, the first message should have been a letter denying all the allegations, that was presented you and saying you'll defend this in court Once that audio came out, then what you do is you present all of your information to a trusted journalist, preferably somebody who's a black woman, because when you get in trouble with these white women you must put the black woman bat signal in there. Call your women.
Speaker 3:I hate you niggas. You see who I'm next with.
Speaker 1:Whenever I got any of these tough conversations here, I got my woman's. Can we get?
Speaker 2:into that next what oh the?
Speaker 1:white woman of it all we'll get into that in just a moment. I got to my woman's, shannon. Why didn't you call gail king? She's back from space. Why didn't you call any? Black there for three seconds why didn't you call any black female journalist to sit down, read this stuff off and say shannon is vehemently denying this and he is waiting for his day in court?
Speaker 2:fuck that. Do not drag any reputable black women into your goddamn mess. In the first place, you chose to go mess with them. Snow bunnies first of all. What the fuck are you doing with a 19 year old at your big 67 year old age? I'm not sure if that's exactly how old shaman's but like you are way too old, you remember a time of jim crow. Why are you, with a 19 year old, only fans? Girl, y'all have absolutely nothing in common other than a hole and a pole.
Speaker 2:That's the only thing y'all have in common okay, we know okay clearly I know you don't really consume niggas be going over there to the white women right, just like you said, monique, literally in her interview with him was like you need you an old bitch that can handle your needs? I'm not sure about that, but what are you, at 55, doing with a 19-year-old? And then she go do this. Roll around as soon as not just a 19 year old, a 19 year old white woman, a young white woman who looks like a meek little character next to yo big black, doofy ass. As soon as she opens her mouth and yell, cries, wolf, everybody's gonna believe her because she's a little white woman and and you know this, you should know this. I'm sure you had a partner back in the day that got hung for this. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Okay. So this is the problem I have with a little bit of what you're saying, Because this kind of bleeds into this other conversation people have. Oh, this is why you need to settle down and get a wife and all this other stuff for Shannon.
Speaker 2:He don't need to settle down and get a wife, but that's what.
Speaker 1:That's what what you just said bleeds into that other part of that conversation. This is what I want to tell you, old bitch, that act right even then. This is what I want to tell y'all. Okay, regardless of if she your wife, long-term partner and baby, don't be offended by this. Okay, come here, get away from me. It doesn't matter if she your wife, your lifetime partner, age, that she's 1940. It don't matter. That bitch can lie too, okay, so that would not have protected him from her saying he did x, y and z. If it is a lie also, them being, whatever age, whatever the complexion, doesn't stop him from assaulting her, if that's what happened, yes, but if a black older woman lies on shannon, everyone is not going to automatically.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, everyone is not going to automatically. Unfortunately, everyone is not going to automatically believe her. The media is not going to automatically paint him as this monster. People would literally do what you're supposed to do in these cases hold off judgment, probably back him up and be like nah, he wouldn't do that if it was a black woman. There are. That's what I'm saying. It's not white women are more likely to lie about sexual assault. It's that when the white woman lies, that, versus when the black woman lies, she is believed immediately.
Speaker 2:So your argument is even sicker though.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Because now you're saying he should be with a black girl because no one's going to believe her. No, I'm not saying that he should be with a black girl, because no one's going to believe her.
Speaker 2:Do not put your hands and do anything to anybody, but you should be old enough to know that there are consequences to your actions. And then there are more consequences on one side versus another yeah, but that doesn't.
Speaker 1:That remains true regardless of the age of your partner. That's what I'm saying, although everything that you're saying rings true as long as the age whatever your age of your partner is. But my thing is, as a married man who enjoys being married marriage doesn't protect you from shit. Women are still a liability. If she go fuck a nigga tomorrow, that's gonna make me look crazy out here in these streets and that that could just be, that could just be off a whim. I don't have to do anything to to uh make her do that, can just make a choice. So that's a liability to me.
Speaker 1:So to act like there was anything he could do by picking a different partner is asinine. Like Shannon is who he wants to be with. That's what he wants. He wants to mold a girl. You can discuss if that's sick or not. That is sick, but that's what he wanted. It's no discussion it's neither here nor there of how this would have changed the outcome if he did do what she's claiming that he did. So that's what has been frustrating me hearing people say that like it's just a lot of grandstanding.
Speaker 2:Like your wife can call and say you assaulted her too and lie, or you can assault your wife it happens, yeah, but the chances that your wife is gonna do that that you've been with for it doesn't even matter about wife or not. I'm just saying like stop fucking with these white women. I mean like the age is not even the age is a completely different argument for me. I'm not mad like you said like you shouldn't be with with 19 year olds when you're 60, that's just across the board.
Speaker 1:I've I've spoken to it before on this show, whatever. Yeah, we've made legal ages if you want to engage in it.
Speaker 2:You understand what you're getting into I mean, yeah, it's technically legal, it's just morally shaky like a 40 year old age gap.
Speaker 1:No, I mean it's to me I get it's weird, but I don't know this woman's you know social economic status prior to meeting shannon, so she he could have done something to change her life she was trying to get shit done, like she followed him up to that apartment.
Speaker 2:She knew that he had money. I'm sure, like it said, that she claimed that she didn't know who he was when she met him, maybe not I could see somebody not knowing who.
Speaker 1:Shannon sharp, especially a 19 year old girl who just got out of high school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she probably didn't know who she was for real she just she seen a nigga.
Speaker 1:He like he got a bag as soon as you got to his property.
Speaker 1:I mean, she just would have thought he was an ex-player, you know, nfl player as soon as you got to his property you knew it was some money around so I do want to finish up with this, because it got really crazy on espn at his job and right now it's very, it's looking very iffy if he's gonna come back to espn. Right now it's looking really crazy, uh, but this is what was said on Pat McAfee's show. Remember we talked about Pat McAfee and how there's been a contentious beef between him and Steve and A and all these guys.
Speaker 7:CM Punk does as much good to my reputation as Shannon Sharp does to ESPN.
Speaker 1:Oh no, this is the day it came out, like hours after it came out.
Speaker 4:Don't ooh me, I'm not the one getting sued At this man's gig.
Speaker 5:This is crazy.
Speaker 1:No, this is on the Pat McAfee show, but this is the channel he works for. He's getting utterly disrespected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was crazy to me, but they got beef, so I mean not necessarily Pat McAfee, him got beef.
Speaker 1:It's just contention because we all trying to be the top person, top dog at the job. But that was some low blow man. That was crazy to me.
Speaker 2:Didn't Stephen.
Speaker 1:A Smith Stephen A reacted to me. Didn't steven a reacted about he did. He talked about it on his show. It was whoo, that's a tough place to be in, especially when, when buddy your partner, that's a tough place to be in. Did the 10 million dollars that he offered her? Did that strike to you odd at all?
Speaker 2:he offered her. I didn't know what his lawyer said. It was a settlement yeah so shouldn't this be done if she? He already offered to settle?
Speaker 1:she didn't take it.
Speaker 2:She they're trying to get to 50 if he's already trying to settle, then I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know how that looks okay, well, I got a video that explains that and we can talk about sinners after this, because jay-z did not attempt to settle even one bit.
Speaker 2:he was like bitch, I'll see you at court like I'm defending myself because he did not do that shit. I don't know, when people try to settle it, just it gives a whisper of guiltiness.
Speaker 1:OK, well, I want you to listen to this, because this actually breaks down the logistics of it, and maybe it might give you a different perspective.
Speaker 7:Ok, so we have to talk about what a settlement means, just because it's been so unclear, where people assume when you make a settlement offer that means that you're automatically guilty or that you've done the underlying action.
Speaker 7:Actually, it's a math equation, believe it or not. When you have a lawsuit that is pending, you speak to your lawyers and they talk to you about the probability. So if he's being sued for $50 million, stay with me here, dan. And the lawyer says Shannon, there's a 10% chance of this happening, of the victory against you, of you losing. 10% of $50 million is $5 million. That means the value of the lawsuit is $5 million, but the legal fees are going to be $8 million, no matter what. If you have no liability, or if you're found liable for $50 million, you're going to pay me $8 million. That's a total of $13 million. That's when you go to the other side and you say I'll give you $10.
Speaker 7:That doesn't mean I did it. It doesn't mean I didn't do it. It's called a nuisance settlement amount and it's discovered through a simple math equation based on probability, and that's all it does. So when the 10 million was offered, now people go crazy. Oh my god, how can you be so stupid as to say you didn't do it and then offer 10. That's how yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean, like I said, you can't always go to the the quick out with it, but at the end of the day shannon's been through this before, so he's had me too situations in the past. You know we discussed that on the show before, so I can understand maybe potentially settling because you don't want to have to go through all that again. Because he, he made sure that woman beforehand it was shown that she was lying like he was. He was going through a lot to prove that she was lying on him. But uh, in this situation I don't know if he maybe felt like it was worth it anymore. Also, he was getting this big deal everybody was announcing, which I don't think it came from him.
Speaker 2:I got a conspiracy around that he has like a hundred million dollar deal or something like that right that's not what it was.
Speaker 1:What's going on. So it looked like that, if you just you know, going through the timeline. But what it actually said was that his deal with the volume and you remember the volume is calling cowherd, the white guy was telling you about Sure. They were saying his deal with the volume is coming to the end and he's looking for a hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:For whoever he signs with next. I think I said this before with Colin Cowherd before prior. I'm going to say it again here. I think that when he did this similar with the Fox people, I think he put people in batteries and backs. I wouldn't be surprised if he put a battery in this girl back to do the same thing, so that Shannon comes back to him a damaged man, the brand slightly tarnished, but just enough that he can. He can repair it and not having to pay him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, colin doesn't have to close as much yeah, and then Colin can help still build up the volume.
Speaker 2:So they trying to Drake Shannon okay.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be surprised, man to me, I don't believe they did that to Drakeke.
Speaker 2:Colin is a sly, sly dog to me I think that he has.
Speaker 1:I think he's capable of a lot. I'll just say that I think he is capable of a lot and I don't I would be surprised if shannon was the one who was putting that information out, um, to try to kind of negotiate publicly, like that. I don't think that was him. I think that was someone out trying to trying to out him. I could even see colin oh, we got this press release we're going to do for you because we want to big up our negotiations with you and then just for it to be turned to be a spotlight for them to okay, get them, jump on them now, get half of the honey That'd be messed up Get half of the honey.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's get into sinners man. So we went to go see sinners twice we went to go see sinners twice.
Speaker 2:Two times we went yesterday and then we went sunday, on easter yesterday being tuesday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when y'all, when y'all see this, you're gonna think it's thursday you're right. I want to say uh, I think we should just get into this, jump into the plot of it, let everybody know what was happening. This is a spoiler alert yeah, definitely filled with spoilers so we're gonna get into just breaking down the plot.
Speaker 1:We're to talk about some ideas we had about the movie itself and then just kind of discuss a little bit of the reaction to it. But first I'll just kind of break it down. It's about two twin brothers or maybe they cousins who come back to Mississippi in 1932 and are opening up what was called at the time a juke joint, which essentially was a club.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for the blacks.
Speaker 1:You see them kind of go through the logistics of you know buying the place, picking up the entertainment, getting the food and stuff ready, like you kind of get that communal vibe amongst them and you see how you know what they meant to the community People seeing you know people knew who they was they name?
Speaker 2:rang bells because they had a infamous um reputation before they had left. So the the twins left for chicago. They just came back, but before they left they had just robbed the bank so they robbed the gangs in new york and in chicago yeah, but before they left the mississippi or wherever they were, they had robbed the bank. There was a um on spotify. On um, the sinners page, there are two um articles, news clippings. So one of them was talking about smoking stack, robbing the bank before they left for chicago okay and ran off with all the money.
Speaker 2:So they probably used that money to like, look like something in Chicago. But what were you saying?
Speaker 1:No, they got that Basically, they were getting everything together Once they start having the party. You see kind of like a good scene of probably one of the most powerful scenes in media in the last 10 years. I want to say, in regards to that musical scene where they kind of do a reenacting, not a reenacting, but they show the embodiment of culture over time and they show where music how that kind of bleeds over.
Speaker 2:So Sammy is performing a song and that boy got an ancestral voice. I, oh my God, ancestral voice. It's so amazing, it's like deep but it's smooth. It's so amazing, it's like deep but it's smooth, it's so good. So he's singing a song about how he loves the blues and he's lied to his father because his father's a pastor. His father wants him to follow in his footsteps, but Sammy absolutely loves the blues and that's what he wants to do. So he's singing a song and in the beginning of the movie there's this little like cartoon of long back in the day.
Speaker 2:There are these people who have this musical ability that is able to like heal their community, is able to conjure ancestors. The Irish call them this, the Africans call them this, you know. So Sammy starts playing and he's obviously like he has that power, he has that gift. While he's playing the guitar, you see like um, african tribal dances and you see like um I think it was supposed to be sunrise was like an afro moment. Then you see like DJs, like the hip hop, and then break dancing, and you see girls twerking next to the African lady who's doing like the same kind of movement, but it's a little bit different. Obviously it's meant to say that, like we've always been doing this.
Speaker 2:It was my favorite scene in the movie and it was a little bit early on in the movie and during that scene scene I had two streams of tears going down my eyes because I am wildly emotional and I was just so happy that, like Ryan exists and he had the money to do this, like that's. That was simply it. I was like I love when black people are able to create things, because look at what we get. It was gorgeous. And in that scene I was like we're gonna come see this again, like I don't care what happens in the rest of the movie uh.
Speaker 1:So then the movie kind of bleeds off to the more horror aspects.
Speaker 1:They kind of attract the vampires with the music that one song, yeah yeah, then they essentially get picked off one by one, uh, being turned into vampires, ending up with a final battle between like half the people that were remaining and it ends in just essentially, the sun rising. All the vampires for what you think, for the most part are killed. And then there's a glorious scene at the end that I was so disappointed in our theater when we first went to go see it, where Michael B Jordan slaughters a field of racist white men, and I think every movie should end like that. I think like every movie just, even if there's like no black people to move, like a black guy should just come out of nowhere and just annihilate a bunch of racist white men, just mow them down. And then I was assaulted by our theater. Nobody clapped. I'm over here trying to clap.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to wake it up and niggas looking at me like I'm a psychopath.
Speaker 2:There was somebody who was clapping in the second theater.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the second time we went there was somebody else clapping yeah.
Speaker 2:I did a little, but like I think clapping in the movie theater is obnoxious Niggas clapped when, when thor came, and he didn't do shit until afterward.
Speaker 1:So if thor can get a round of applause in a movie theater, I think michael b jordan shooting racist white man should get an applaud 10 times out of 10. I agree with you. Uh, but uh, I think overall, like I said, we I think we both enjoyed the movie. I think it had a lot of good, like just scenes, elements too bad.
Speaker 2:We weren't able to see it in its imax, I believe it was it was like a 70 millimeter um Kodak film thing that you're supposed to see it in, but there aren't a lot of theaters that that show it in that format. So unfortunately, both times we saw it we weren't able to see it in the format that Ryan intended for us to see it in, but still we were able to support which was great.
Speaker 1:So I mean one of the themes I think we both pretty much agreed on with this one, uh was. It was kind of obvious like this was like I don't want to call ryan a hotep, but this was like essentially like a hotep fever dream in a little bit in regards to like the first half of the movie the first half of the movie was like a time period but it was a hotep fever dream because it was romanticizing black entrepreneurship and things of that nature.
Speaker 1:The reason why I say that is because the overarching theme that I acquired from it you agree with me is that integration kills culture.
Speaker 1:I agree with that part I didn't agree with anything you said before that I said all of that that's all surmises from it. But, like I said, integration kills culture and the vampire was the embodiment of integration, if you kind of watch the video, even when they when they first, when they first reached the juke joint, right so when they start playing their music, there's only three people who enjoyed it Stack, mary cornbread. All of these people have a reason to want integration. Stack is a pimp who wants to be in love with mary mary well, yeah, stack is just, uh, just loves white people.
Speaker 1:I feel like I don't think he necessarily had a love for white people, he just well I?
Speaker 2:he obviously loves mary and he's open to integration because he already loves a white woman and then that's what I got from. He would benefit from it yeah, and was raised by a white woman, low-key, um mary's mother and then um, I think he's just he's generally empathetic to his oppressor and then, if you go, like you said, what he said with his father too, is he's empathetic to his oppressor when he was talking about um, his daddy beat him, but it wasn't his fault.
Speaker 1:I was like, yeah, you're, you're empathetic to your also oppressor also, too, the first people who all changed into vampires once they got to the juke joint were all you can start from the beginning movie. Everybody who turned into a vampire through the movie were people who were susceptible to integration though, yeah, of the main cast. So mary was even the white people, the the kookas clan people yeah, so mary was the of like our cast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it starts off.
Speaker 1:She was the first one let me break it down because it is interesting. You know why you can see that. So the first person was who got changed was mary, who is a white woman on in this in this movie. She's part black, but it doesn't really matter. She's a white woman for this movie and she was the first one to change. The next one it was was stack stack immediately after who did, but in the midst of, while stack was getting changed cornbread changed.
Speaker 1:And the reason why I say cornbread is somebody who's susceptible for integration is when you first see him in the movie. He's just trying to work, get his job done so that he can support. In the movie he's just trying to work, get his job done so that he can support his family. Yeah, somebody's not trying to shake yeah, shake shit up at all. He's not trying to shake anything up and he just wants to be a working man and get what his just do yeah those kind of meet his quota.
Speaker 1:Generally, people like that are susceptible to integration because they can feed you a story of what you will, you know, benefit highly from it, which again, I don't want to say. A story like it's fake. But then you go after that, the asian man the asian man is not within the community. They show multiple times with that.
Speaker 2:You know what, though I think that is where your that logic is a little bit shaky, because he didn't want to leave. He was like um, what's her name? Grace asked him to leave and he was, like his brother just died, like these are our people, we need to stay and we need to help. And then she was like no, these are not our people, our daughter is at home. You need to get outside and get the, get the shit, so we can go.
Speaker 2:A reason why he's susceptible, yeah, so I I don't know. I just feel like he's. He might be susceptible because he listened to his wife, but that's not his heart for real no, I'm saying, I'm saying he's susceptible because he's outside of the black culture yeah, he is somebody who would benefit again from integration.
Speaker 1:Um, then you go into the last person, which was the wino. The wino is the person who is, like I said when they talked about in the church, about these people who are pushing away their families and things like that. The wino is also going to be someone who can be manipulated and the wino.
Speaker 2:The guy who was drunk passed out. Okay, he was drunk and he was the guy who got slashed in the face.
Speaker 1:He was a wino and he was a gambler.
Speaker 4:He was a degenerate and he was another person. Yeah, he was another person who you could use um in the.
Speaker 1:in the pathway of trying to navigate integration, that was messed up. What? When they threw him out? Yeah, and then?
Speaker 2:they realized that that, I think, what's his face. Smoke took mad long to like run out after everyone ate the garlic and everyone realized nobody in here was a vampire. They should have bolted out that door to get that man, but then they just I mean't, they was just looking around a little bit.
Speaker 1:He had been outside for a minute, so it wouldn't be no point of even doing that, because he probably would already been dead. And then they just happened to hear you know yeah, but he wasn't already dead.
Speaker 2:That was the point I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have been rushing I wouldn't have been rushing to go pick that oh shit let's go get him. And then, to kind of like the icing on the cake, what in invited all of the vampires into the house this is grace another person who was not a part of the culture, who would benefit from integration so she pissed me off so much.
Speaker 2:This has been like a thing on the internet is grace and her decision to yell come on in, motherfuckers um, and whether she was justified in doing that or not no, she wasn't.
Speaker 1:She killed the entire group because she killed everybody bitch.
Speaker 2:You made one molotov cocktail and then yelled come on in, at least make a couple more, and only took one body, one body, and you didn't even do that efficiently. You took three minutes to kill that man and then you died in the process of killing that man. Absolutely useless and a waste of time. So, and it was super selfish.
Speaker 1:So I think that was a large part. I think another example of when they were showing integration and what it does was when he did attract you know everyone for his vampire team started uh remake is the the main white vampire. Yeah, they started creating his, they were reenacting his music again and now the music had an even bigger production value to it, you could say, because now he had all of these people integrated, yeah, they was making his shit look better. Yeah, they were, they were adding more value to, to his music.
Speaker 2:So, like I said it, that river dance, though that little iris he was, he was hitting that shit. See how they got her he was hitting that shit, I'd have been she would have been outside.
Speaker 1:You would have went outside, I wouldn't have went outside.
Speaker 2:You'd let him bit you, I wouldn't have went outside because I'm extremely spiritual. I'd have been attached to Annie's hip. I'd have been like girl, what we doing next? Like I to anybody but Annie, I'd have been in there. Shut the fuck up until Annie. Listen to Annie when Annie end up.
Speaker 1:Dead.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, that's because of the grace If everyone just listened to only Annie first of all. Annie also said that we got to keep everybody inside. Did you realize that the second time? And then Delta was like everybody get out. I was like oh, get out.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, god, damn, uh, but no, I just think that was kind of like the over. I think there's gonna be a lot of people in the future who is going to like, misrepresent this movie.
Speaker 1:They're going to forget about uh slim's lynching scene, where he talks about his homeboy being lynched I think they're gonna forget all about the, the fact that the money that they were getting used to pay was credit from the the plantation. I think a lot of people are going to use this movie to romanticize their already perverted idea of segregation and Jim Crow era, because they want to always be like oh, this was when we was family. No, nigga, that's when we was oppressed.
Speaker 2:And then they're going to forget that Stack and Smoke got that money from crime. They didn't get it by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and going to college and becoming entrepreneurs and stuff like that. Like they got that from stealing from different gangs and different banks and they just hustled and they were lucky because of because of um, annie's, annie's mojo bag mostly I think, um, which that made me really sad.
Speaker 2:When, at the end, during the kkk battle, he pulled it off, I was like, oh, he's giving up, he wants to die. But I didn't blame him for wanting to die either. Yeah, once you see, I wanted to ask you if you're somebody who believes in heaven, hell, all that I was gonna ask do you think, after killing a bunch of people and then dying himself, where is smoke going to heaven or hell? And then that's not even the question, right, all of. Do you think it's a very convoluted, like religious question? Do you think that the slaves who killed out of like self-defense and just like desperation were like punished by God for those killings? That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:I was like I would hope not. Well, I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in that Just let's leave your atheist mind frame. I know I just have to get that as a prerequisite If I was to make an assumption, if I was going to go off of the Christian God. He is a petty God, so, yeah, I would think that he would send him to hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just think that, like technically they would probably go to hell, but hopefully that if all of this is real and everything, we're not going off of technicalities. It's a lot of gray areas and morality. But that's what I was thinking when I was watching the movie the second time. I was like damn, is smoke gonna be able to go back to the plane with his ancestors and be with annie and his baby, or is he gonna be somewhere being punished for all the like actual evil shit that he did when he was living?
Speaker 1:so then the movie kind of just ends with Preacher Boy living his life, becoming a you know big time music performer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he ends up running, he opens Pearline's. He's obviously extremely successful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he ends up kind of opening up his own juke joint and then he runs into a stack and Mary that are still alive after 60 years and they look just as young as they did the night.
Speaker 3:The day it happened the night in question.
Speaker 1:And then the movie just kind of ends with a solo performance by Preacher Boy and Stack, just kind of showing he's still the same guy, no matter what, leaving the 200 on the table. It was a really good movie. It was a really good movie.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I'm glad that Sammy decided to um go on his own path and not follow his father's and not do what smoke said and just go back to the church and sing there. Like I'm glad he he merged and made his own thing. And I I don't think I would have been satisfied if he just went back to the church and like fell to his father's knees to like fell to his knees in front of his father and that was it. Like I don't think I'd have been satisfied with that.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you see a lot of the people who were kind of like trying to talk down on the movie to try to get a little bit of clout? There was like a Hispanic content creator.
Speaker 2:Oh, we're not even going to talk about that. That bitch, we're not even gonna talk about that that bitch.
Speaker 1:No, it was crazy because he tried to use the idea to plot oh, this is the same. Plot like this hasn't been used multiple times. I went to when I was in college. I did a class where we talked about horror movies and stuff like that. I promise you, this is a very, very recycled plot of brothers going back to the south or going home and trying to make some shake and in the midst of that, some supernatural nonsense happened yeah they literally did a whole show called supernatural about it.
Speaker 1:You should probably check it out.
Speaker 2:Did like 20 seasons also um the the other one, their originals and the one that was before that vampire diaries. There's so many of them, um with this.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:though would. Speaking of vampire diaries in vampire that you of them, um, with this, you know what, though, would speaking of vampire diaries in vampire that you know it pissed me off. I wished that they took this from vampire diaries and and applied it to um sinners and vampire diaries. Uh, it has to be the person whose name is on the deed of the property that has to invite the vampire, and you can't just be fucking grace, you don't own shit in this bitch, and then you would come on in. No, it would have had to been somebody whose name is on a deed. Yeah, but I mean, that's all. They had to move the story along somehow. Yeah, they did, but like I was like.
Speaker 1:But I think, just to wrap up the conversation I think there was a lot of I think people are calling it hate, but I just think it's about putting the movie into perspective in a real way and discussing the profitability of the movie. So we've talked about this before. We talked about Taraji P Henson and other things in that regard. What I said was in response to someone talking about the profitability movie and what this movie was going to prove. I said this movie was going to prove what we've always seen black movies prove If you give us a low budget or medium to low budget, we can make a hit domestically, but once it goes overseas, unfortunately our product does not hit the same way in the states that it does internationally.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't, Unfortunately just to kind of just show an example, everybody's been comparing this movie to once upon a time in hollywood because, uh, ryan cougar had got a similar deal to tarantino, uh, they had a similar budget, a similar open week domestically. But what they didn't account for was the fact that it was in like over 100 countries. Cinders is only like in 70. So that means there's a lot of these countries who saw this movie and said that's not going to sell in our country. We don't want it to.
Speaker 1:The fact that, like I was looking at I think it was like 15 million that they had is the most recent reports for centers international market. I just counted when I was counting once upon a time in hollywood's international opening weekend. I counted just the ones they did a million and I got to like 30 before I just stopped and it was still like two other sections of countries then and they had hit million dollars in those countries. So just that just goes to show where it's like. I don't feel like that should deter people from making content, but we have to understand the financial limitations when it comes to black media and that doesn't make it less than it just makes it not as a global appeal yeah, it's not as profitable globally, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think this movie got into china and that's a like.
Speaker 1:I know you you make that face, but that's a big market, that's a billion people.
Speaker 2:Don't be the thing. The thing is even if it's.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying baby, I think it's just a finicky market, that's all but well, we only get a certain amount of movies that get to go to china anyway. But to get in that movie, even if it isn't. Just imagine if, like, there's a billion people and some change in china, if you get three percent of those people to see your movie, that's a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? That's a ton of money. So that's what I mean. Like even just getting into those markets are so important. But when they see our faces in our movies, they don't want to market that to their people. They're not worried about that, they don't. They don't care to see us in that capacity. They'll buy music from us. They'll go to your concerts and your tours overseas but for some reason, like our media, like that doesn't hit the same way.
Speaker 2:I would like to look into the reason other than like anti-blackness globally, because that's an obvious reason.
Speaker 1:But other than that, I would like to look into why that's the case well, I told you, when I went to australia and the asian lady who was at the hotel desk, I just assumed that black people could sing and dance. Like that was just and I was a glow. I was back in 2000, early 2000s, but nonetheless, like that's the global stereotype about us. So if you see us acting that doesn't fall into the singing, dancing type of you know motif.
Speaker 2:I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's a good enough explanation. I mean, you don't think like that's just. It goes into the bigger picture of the anti-black racism. Like when they did Black Panther in China china they didn't show chadwick's face they don't.
Speaker 2:That's just anti-blackness, I just like let's move on you don't want to get in anymore no, because neither of us know the answer, so I don't want us to like speculate I think I pretty much know you think you pretty much know anything like.
Speaker 2:That's just how you are okay, they could be loud and wrong all the time when when, literally a little bit earlier today, say say it when you, uh, I don't, I don't forget what we were talking about. Oh, yeah, about the, the, the song talk about. Oh, kendrick shouldn't have did this he was on the song. He, yeah, but it wasn't his fucking song, yeah but he was on the song.
Speaker 1:That's why I say he should. Why would he like? Why would he? Because he could have threw this one away like shut up, you have horrible music taste when someone gives you a feature, you can throw it away, all right.
Speaker 1:So we got to get into lebron james versus kevin gates. So this was very interesting because I thought this was just going to stay on the internet. I didn't even think lebron was going to respond to this, but Kevin Gates had said on his live, where he talked about essentially not ever wanting to switch places with LeBron James, and I'll let him explain the reason why I thought it was Wasn't.
Speaker 2:It was interesting reason and I think there's a good conversation to be had about what he said, but I think initially people are going to take it because he want to be a delinquent and he want to be freaked out and he want to keep wearing his little feathers with his shirt open, humping the air and creeping people out. And you can't do that. If you're held to a standard like lebron, is you got to stay at the bottom of the barrel where you are?
Speaker 8:I'm like man. He wanted the greatest players to ever at the bottom of the barrel, where you are. I'm like man, he's one of the greatest players to ever play the game Right, but I wouldn't want to trade places with him. And they was like why not? Why you wouldn't want to trade? I said because I don't like the way Savannah look at LeBron.
Speaker 8:I like the way them white women look at LeBron. Like when, soon as he walk out there, they just be like they be dicked out. But it's like I notice when he go do the handshake with the main player on his team, which is that it's like you act like I'm bothering you bitch, like I'm the greatest player in the world, one of them, top five, black. Like top five, top ten. I'm one of them and I'm in the playoffs and you act like you act like the warden of the jail, like you came here to police me. Like you ain't like you not dicked out, like these white women just dicked out about me in here, like so, like I just I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, bro, because when I've been around that dude, that dude, just when you're actually talented, you don't need everybody falling at your feet.
Speaker 2:You can just exist Because your confidence and your ego is high. Unlike Kevin's, His dick is probably little, which is why he do so much.
Speaker 1:So then LeBron goes on Instagram and he tweet and he puts a post of him and Savannah and he says kings don't concern themselves with the opinions of peasants. Where's the next? Where to next queen, let's get it. So I want to say this part before we talk about how this kind of ended in the climax of this situation. I get what Kevin Gates is saying, and I've even spoke on this show regarding the fact that certain achievements don't get the respect from a person's partner. In particular, situations that we talked about, uh, individual situations that we've talked about, but in their situation it's a little different and it's a little harder to kind of just put that one ideal on them, because they known each other, they were children.
Speaker 1:Like this isn't just the girl that he met that he felt like he deserved her after his success and all this other stuff, like this was his friend like his real life together like I, I would imagine that lebron and savannah could form relationships similar to what will smith a more positive version of will smith and jada, to where, yeah, lebron might have some, you know, yes jewels and some women on the outside, but like his homie, his road dog, his friend is savannah, and that's always gonna be rule number one with them and I, so I can see where that's a reality in regards to that. So when you kevin gates, you can't apply that same kind of logic to somebody who's been with their partner before they even matured into an adult yeah, but he's been.
Speaker 2:He was with driga. For how long have they been together? And they're still together. And she came out and said she rocking with him, regardless of the the britney thing but she was, she fucked up the trainer, right, okay, we ain't got.
Speaker 1:We never heard of savannah. Didn't fuck the trainer, we didn't.
Speaker 2:So I mean, the trainer was a stud too right.
Speaker 1:She was fully freaked out kevin gays, look a little study though he does look like a stud like he doesn't look a little like?
Speaker 2:he looks like the stud, like the stereotypical light-skinned stud, the final boss stud. Yes.
Speaker 1:Like him and Manny Fresh. Both look like studs. So most people would think a situation like this rapper, best player, one of the best players in the league it would just end at that. But not with Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates said I ain't no peasant, and he got tickets, floor seat, playoff game for the Lakers, and he sat there with britney. He had britney dressed in all muslim attire. I believe she only could look at in his direction the whole time. That did make it fly. I don't think she turned her head any other way but to look at kevin gates the entire time oh my god, girl, just start shaking your ass in front of the camera.
Speaker 2:No, she's doing.
Speaker 1:She's doing, right, you being a good you are being a great example to these women. Don't let them turn uh your love and admiration into slave talk. Okay, now don't listen to.
Speaker 2:It's not love and admiration. She has no more options left. Hey, you think it's love and admiration. It's literally one has ran out of options and one wants to exploit the fact that the other one has ran out of options and she's going to be malleable to whatever the fuck you want, because you are the last of the last, of the bottom of the barrel that she can scrape up and get. After a Kevin Gates, what is Britney getting?
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is get the fuck out of here. From Kevin Gates perspective, that's fly. No, it's not that's fly. From kevin gate's perspective, that's fly. No, it's not, that's fly. And then so again, like I said, the reason why I feel like this got a lot of heat just because lebron recently we talked about this as well checked steven a when he was courtside at the game, and for you, as lebron, to go after steven a when he's talking about your son, who is a professional athlete on the team you're playing with, but then not have any words in a similar situation to a man that violated your wife, that is pussy, and he hold you out Like LeBron got hold at his job.
Speaker 2:You should have accidentally threw the ball his way or something Like knocked him upside the head with the basketball or something.
Speaker 1:Or just turn around and call him a bitch and tell him watch his mouth and then it's over with, do you think?
Speaker 2:uh, maybe lebron was told to stop confronting people he beefs with at the games they can't tell lebron what to do.
Speaker 1:Fair lebron, like lebron left the heat over cookies, so like, yeah, they stopped he. They used to have chocolate chip cookies the way that he liked. Every time they got on the plane, Pat Riley got rid of the chocolate chip cookies and the next year LeBron James was back in Cleveland. Lebron don't play about stuff like that, so you over here trying to tell me what to do Pussy no, nigga, what Go nigga that.
Speaker 1:So you over here trying to tell me what to do pussy no, nigga, what go nigga. 50, 50k points. Nigga. Suck my dick. I'm sitting on anything I want. Like they had a video of him sitting on the the scorer's box with his feet in the seat, like in the actual uh folding up chair, like ron doing what he want.
Speaker 2:But you gotta. You gotta hire driga as your chef, and then you gotta hire the stud trainer as his trainer, as Savannah's trainer no he can't he's a professional athlete like she. She don't know what to do with that, but as Savannah's trainer, and then y'all need to invite them over to house see Savannah, a real one.
Speaker 1:See like Savannah put her name on the drugs for LeBron.
Speaker 2:Like you think Brittany gonna if you making how much money is LeBron making Billions? If you, I put my name on whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1:Whatever, yo Savannah jumped on it for the steroids. Yo Shout out to her dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd have jumped on it too, nigga, we're not messing this up.
Speaker 1:Put that in my name, big dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was taking them for my eczema. Savannah clip pulling out her fucking pants because of all them steroids. Let's not talk about her genitals.
Speaker 1:Oh snap, you hold it down for me like that, Like if I was an athlete you'd hold it down.
Speaker 2:If you was making billions? Hell fucking yeah. What if it was like a couple million?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll hold it down for me like that, like if I was an athlete, you hold it down. If you was making billions, hell yeah, like a couple million, like whatever it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll hold you down if you're my husband still, I would hold you down less excitedly, but I would still hold you down, see, this is what we're talking about, where it's like that's a one percent earner and she acting like that's oh well, I guess I'll do it like that's crazy. Still a hypothetical, yeah, but even in the hypothetical, I'm still a one percent earner in the hypothetical did I not say yes, begrudgingly?
Speaker 1:that's okay that's what that's kevin gates is talking about. It shouldn't be begrudgingly for a one percent earner. It should be. Yes, baby we talking about lebron it should be the same thing. Hey, what are we talking about? What are we talking about? This is what it should sound like. Okay, this is what anytime it should sound like as a woman, when you are with someone high profile like that.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna play a video for us you regular niggas, though y'all are going to jail for for what for? Whatever the fuck. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not taking the, the, the charges for anything for you non-rich niggas a radical heart shift.
Speaker 6:From that moment I got in my word under my word. I just completely changed as a person and I realized that god loves me, that god has a purpose and plan for my life, that god chose me, that I'm fearfully and wonderfully made so he would call me out my name it wouldn't bother me because I allowed god's voice to be louder than his talk about it and when I was going through transition of him religious not being there telling me I hate you, I'll never love you.
Speaker 6:I wish I never married you. I knew that life and death is in the power of the tongue through the word of god, so I would say you will love me one day, we will have a good marriage one day, and although he would go out for weekends.
Speaker 6:I would literally help him get ready to go meet a side chick by ironing his clothes and getting him ready for the night, and these are all things I was graced to do. I would not encourage anybody to do that unless you are graced by God to do this but these people are pastors.
Speaker 2:These people are pastors. They have a church together. These people preach to our community on a weekly basis. This dumb bitch. That's hate. Not even you, poor victim. That's hate. You, poor, stupid victim. And then this big belly buffoon sitting next to her with his bald head, just looking stupid as a motherfucker, nodding his head, did you? There was another clip. That nigga a king. That nigga is a peon. So there was another clip. Um, so these, these two pastors have been going viral on tiktok and twitter, apparently. Um, there was the first clip that I saw. She was talking about how, um, when they first met when they were in high school, he told her that he loved her, but he liked a bunch of other women and that he was going to continue to do that and um, that's a king.
Speaker 2:She basically had to and she stayed with this man like you could have. You could have held it down, you could have moved around and did whatever you wanted at in high school and been with somebody who actually values you y'all not y'all in front of a camera just looking stupid no just old as fuck spewing nonsense. And then I think you, you saying that like god was yelling in your head louder than the disrespect. That's beautiful, that's religious psychosis that was beautiful right there like to me.
Speaker 1:You hear all of these women who talk about being religious and all this other stuff and they talk about how they really with god.
Speaker 2:They not no. She said that, um, she had trauma from her mother and father splitting up and she always thought that if her mom just forgave her dad for cheating then she would have been happier. So then she just continued to forgive this man for cheating that she had no fucking kids with whatsoever. You dumb, stupid bitch. How is that dumb Getting cheated on in high school and then holding this nigga down while you don't have no kids with him?
Speaker 2:What are you holding down? Just because you're not a rock like that, don't mean you should shit on her.
Speaker 3:I'm not, I'm water.
Speaker 2:I'm flowing and I'm moving and I'm leaving. I'm like the wind. You're not a foundation here. One day, go on the other. So you're not a foundation. No, the fuck, I'm not. I've never been a foundation. So shout out to her for being a foundation.
Speaker 1:She big as a foundation, too Big as one. Well, foundations can't be choosers, nigga Foundations just get built upon my nigga. They don't choose nothing.
Speaker 2:No, she got dumped on, not built upon.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:And then he's still cheating on her.
Speaker 1:As he should. I'm not going to lie. This reminds me of the days when I used to date like the super religious women and being an atheist. And dating religious women is probably like Because you can just get through everything by saying God going to figure us out. Like he talking to Like, especially when you bring it up to, because this is the beautiful part of it You'll have. They should have threw you in the trash. No, never you tell, because they want to be your savior. They want to have this story with you like?
Speaker 2:oh, I brought him to christ, so this is what you do, dumb bitches. This is what you throw the nigga away, no you didn't uh, I I'm not trying to change you into nothing. I'm not religious. I don't give a fuck whether you believe in god or not.
Speaker 1:See, this is how you, this is how you, this is how you would pull them right. So, like, first you would tell them, I would tell them that I'm an atheist, but they would still, you know, rock with it or whatever. And then some you do the first thing where you mess up and they'll be like, oh, I can't do this with you and all this stuff, but but god has been speaking to me, their eyes always jump oh their eyes always jump up when you tell them god might have spoke to you.
Speaker 2:I'd have did physical violence too.
Speaker 1:Like the fact that you can just quote unquote pray through anything is like the biggest trick. That is like easily exploitable, like I encourage all of y'all If she a prayer, just tell her you'll pray through anything. You probably can at least get a good five cheats off, and there's verses in the Bible that's going to have her hold you down. So I mean, it's not a bad thing, man, it's not you.
Speaker 2:you, if there's anything y'all ever take away from me listening to me on this fucking show is you need to be more willing to throw the nigga away. I have never regretted throwing a nigga away Like ever. Maybe you gonna cry for maybe a day or two after, maybe a month after, maybe a little regret. Did I regret it? Two months after, no regret, no regret left in your body. You'll be fine. Throw the nigga away. Don't try to work on it. Don't try to change him. When people tell you who they are, you fucking believe them. You need to throw the man away. There's gonna be more men. There's gonna be more men, especially if this one is shitty you just saying that right now.
Speaker 2:If the nigga had to sack, you'll, you'll, you'll run, you'll go through it there was a nigga that I talked to that had a wild amount of money, that used to just throw me his card and be like go do what you want, who texted me while we were together, and I fucking ignored that shit because I threw the nigga away.
Speaker 1:Should have finessed that nigga. Should have told me we could have finessed that nigga.
Speaker 2:I was definitely using his card for Instacart groceries. He used to just give it to me and let me put it on things like nigga, you need to be learned a lesson and I'm gonna learn you today, until he blocked it pussy right, you should have kept buying me and my fiance groceries. It was happening for a long time, though hey, man, it wasn't my money.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I was just, I would just I was just like.
Speaker 2:I would just click it and be like let's see if it works this time and every time it did, I'd be like, yes, hey, man some people got to be suckers man.
Speaker 1:Some people got to be kanye out here yeah, suck something. Well, kanye's out here sucking dick man. It's crazy dog, it is yo like it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not funny because he came out and said that he's sucking dick yo and said that he engaged in sexual activity with his cousin until he was about 16 years old. He gave us it was 14, but he gave us more he said his now incarcerated cousin oh yeah, so we don't know what his incarcerated for? Um murder, I think it was right. A white woman, yeah, murdering a white woman, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Let me pull it up, but you continue so he basically he drops this song that's gonna be on world war three.
Speaker 1:Uh, dave blunt has been uh coming out and saying he's pretty much wrote the whole album from Ye and he drops a song called Cousins in which he reveals that he used to suck his cousin's dick till he was 14, after they watched porn together one time and like Kanye older man than me, like he's older than me, but he still come from a similar era and when I was coming up, we had a phrase that I don't think you young niggas know about anymore. It's called taking it to the grave. Yeah, like it's a lot of niggas in this world who done did weird shit with family members and friends and all that shit.
Speaker 2:It's okay to take it to the grave. You go ahead and you.
Speaker 1:You never say anything to anybody about that I got a few things I'm taking to the grave same like I'm. Nobody needs to know it's a few of you bitches out there that I hit that don't never. I'm never admitting to listen.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying there are a lot, there are a couple things that only I know about. You know what I'm saying, so like it's okay to do that.
Speaker 1:I know you young niggas think y'all got to tell us everything. You don't. And if you lying, why are you lying about sucking your cousin's dick Like?
Speaker 2:he's incarcerated. He can't even defend himself. What is somebody trying to?
Speaker 1:suck his dick now Like he's definitely getting. Are you jealous in there? If that's the case, like that's into me the person will get your cousin out.
Speaker 1:Nah, the person get your cousin out. Nah, he's in there for murder. The part that just kind of really sickens me about it is the reaction a lot of people are having and even kind of like his kind of conversation, because he like says it's because of the adult movies he was watching. And I'm like that's not essentially a one-to-one, because if you have people around you explaining things to you and watching, like, okay, this is what I want to say. This isn't a porn thing, this is a parents not being concerned about what their kids are doing, because how are you sucking your cousin's dick and you never get caught?
Speaker 2:Like at some point your parent is going to be around but let's, let's think about it though, because kanye's mother was a single mother. She had to go to work somebody. There's his mama, there's. There's mad, but there's mad free time, and there's mad opportunity, unsupervised opportunity, to prove my point, then you're not being a supervised kid.
Speaker 1:That's a problem. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not the, the adult film that you're watching, that made you do that, it's the fact that you aren't being supervised. So when you did experiment, nobody was there to say hey, what are you doing is weird okay, so I?
Speaker 2:um, since we were going to talk about this, I asked the AI Gemini that's the Google one, right? If porn affects the brain? So, yes, it does, potentially leading to changes in the reward system impacting cognitive function, emotional regulation and overall mental health. Can I add something to that, though? Go ahead Can.
Speaker 1:I add something to that, though. Go ahead when people say things and read things like that, what you have to understand it is not one time, or watching it here and there.
Speaker 1:It affects your brain after long-term use of it Like if you're watching it a whole bunch, or like if certain things trigger you to watch it and it's almost uncontrollable for you. That's what they mean by it. It's not if you have a routine where on friday nights you beat it off and then you're not gonna your brain's not gonna rot from that yeah, so porn works the same way like a drug.
Speaker 2:Does you get a release of dopamine? That, um, it's a surge of dopamine, the brain's pleasure to the brain's pleasure, um neurotransmitter my bad similar to how addictive substances do. So if you have repeated exposure then you become desensitized to the? Um dopamine.
Speaker 1:I said dopamine and um, yeah, so your emotional regulation, your cognitive functioning and, like, your longterm decision-making, also gets affected by a porn addiction and but again, this also comes to when you're a kid and the fact that as a kid you don't have other things that you really have to do, so then you can get caught up in watching adult films for hours at a time. Most people who are watching those are not watching them for an hour at a time. I used to have a manager when I used to work in retail and he used to tell me how he would get ready with it on, like his wife would come in while he's ironing his clothes and there's just a flick on. That's weird. She'd be like are you horny?
Speaker 2:he's like no, I just, I just like having it on that's not just regular content for you to be watching as people fucking like.
Speaker 1:That's not normal you know that was, that was his regular occurrence. He used to like sit down and like oh man, look at this crazy thing I saw and he used to tell me like he was into like the korean, uh, like bus stuff, like when they be on the bus, like trying to fill them up and all that. Like he was into that kind of stuff, like he was crazy, some wild stuff he was revealing to me that's crazy, because that's mostly assault towards me.
Speaker 2:No, the korean, well, yes, but the korean bus stuff is usually like, yeah, assault based. Yeah, he was watching grape porn, grape corn, yeah, that's exactly what he was watching, but no, that's um it's a lot of people who do have that problem, like that.
Speaker 1:But, like, if you're just watching, like I, I guess I get this to show this because, like Nick Fuentes, what's the other clown? Jason? A lot of the conservatives who, like Kanye, are in that Kanye are fans of his. We're going to, oh, we see, this is what they do. They put this, this corn, on you and then they make you do all X, y, z to your brain. It's like it's not that the, the abuse of anything will hurt you Food, drugs, anything and it's like it's not that the the abuse of anything will hurt you food, uh, drugs, any like anything will access in, anything will hurt you will hurt you.
Speaker 1:So it's not that and I think it was really important that this clip kind of came out. So on van latham's podcast, uh, higher learning, he was talking to, uh, this woman about what it means and you know watching, you know corn and pleasuring yourself. And I think it kind of plays into this Kanye thing too, because we see where anytime pleasure is involved, we start to get demonized in our lives and circles systematically and I think this kind of plays into that with Kanye's conversation around it.
Speaker 5:So I just want to let this play real quick watch and usage does for the person a lot of it could be. It helps me wind down, it helps me de-stress, it helps me go to sleep. A lot of these things are like ritual based. A lot of people watch porn regularly to fall asleep. Um, I think that we do lots of things like that. People drink tea or they might meditate and some people watch porn. But the reason that it is so kind of like shamed and relegated to the shadows is because it has to do with pleasure. It has to do with you feeling good and I think, especially for Black people, the world benefits. When we don't so, when we don't feel good, when we don't feel access to ourselves or our bodies, when we're super cerebral and in our heads and we are just focused on like doing and achieving and all of that, then we have no idea that we can be community-based, connect with each other, feel good, feel liberation, are you?
Speaker 1:saying that watching porn is pro-Black, because I could get with that.
Speaker 5:I think that I could say that, I think it could be said.
Speaker 2:Oh, does it depend what type of porn you're watching?
Speaker 1:Have you seen the porn in the street? I think that I'm the best person. I don't know, Well, he specifically said watching it, not necessarily the creation of it. He says that watching it can be pro-black because you're promoting yourself. But you are little miss freaky. So what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:no, but I'm not. I'm not you was, you was kanye. I'm not saying watching porn is pro-black. First of all, I started watching porn way too young. Okay, let me tell you my a little bit of my lore real quick, right? So I'm gonna say names because it's it don't matter.
Speaker 1:I haven't known these people in decades I just want to tell y'all, y'all have never known a woman who got punished for watching pornography no, not not to this degree.
Speaker 2:Okay, like it was a regular punishment for this girl no, I was freaked out. Tasha, it was her fault. Sixth grade, she brought printouts of the toon porn to class. It was two printouts. It was like one family guy, one and then another. I don't even remember which one the other one was, but it was like it was nasty and then I didn't even know that this type of stuff existed. So I go home and I type in like naked people sex, like just like amateur searches for the corn right early early.
Speaker 2:So I remember that might be a little bit too much information. That might be a little bit too much. So um bit too much information. That might be a little bit too much. So, um, sicko, I started. I started just like googling this stuff on my house computer. Um, that was in the dining room when I was home after school because I was alone. Both my parents was at work. I was an unsupervised child. I was supposed to be upstairs at my family's. It was a two-family home. I was supposed to be upstairs with the babysitter. I used to just be like, listen, I'm just gonna go downstairs real quick because I live there and there's no reason for me to be here. So I would just go downstairs and watch porn for like an hour and then come back upstairs. Porn is crazy listen.
Speaker 2:First of all, I've always took a developing brain. I've always taken at least 45 minutes to pick the video, I just want to say. And then at that point I was, there was no bean flicking happening, it was just clicking and like watching stuff, like rubbing your jeans on no it was none of. There was no like pleasure happening whatsoever, right so um they found. They found the corn on the computer. I got in trouble for that. I started ordering it on the cable there's a modest family.
Speaker 1:I started.
Speaker 2:I said, yeah, a modest, like we had just gotten cable a couple years before that. So I'm ordering video on demand porn and then, like, I order like maybe like three videos, like, and I do that because none of them are good. Like you, it takes me a while to find one, so none of them are good and I'm not enjoying any of them. So I just keep buying them and fast forwarding through most of it, right, I'm not even like fucking watching these things wasting money we get the bill like 1099, 1099, 1099 type shit.
Speaker 1:I was like somebody broken, somebody broken and ordered porn on the tv and I just want to also say to one of our loyal supporters, uh, jay callwoods, 25. That's why another reason why we did that, uh, bracket with the cartoon mom freak girl. She want to talk about how they look. They're real nasty. I got a little story like that too, that my mom had reminded me when we had talked about it before on the show. So I was watching, I was like four or five years old, right, and I had snuck into my brother's blue movie collection and I knew how to operate the VHS. So kids, y'all listening out there who don't know what a vhs is, we had these tapes with film in it that you put into the machine and you could play movies on your tv. It was dope, um, so I grabbed my brother than a dvd yeah, it's all way older.
Speaker 1:So I grabbed my brothers and I used. I was watching it in my room upstairs by myself, like at the edge of my bed, four years old, just watching. You know what I'm saying? Charlie get cracked. So I'm chilling and everybody looking for me.
Speaker 2:That's way too young. I was at least like 11.
Speaker 1:I was four. So my parents come upstairs because they hear something coming from the room Bus, open the door. My dad runs to the VHS and removes the tape out and I look at him squaring his eyes and say what did you do that for? You don't even know you're doing anything wrong. I'm sitting there just my hands on my leg, just me by myself, not even hard.
Speaker 2:You can't even get hard. My dick was hard At four years old yeah.
Speaker 1:Your dick get hard. When you a little boy what you talking about? When you have to pee and stuff, your dick get hard. Okay, I guess my dick was sitting there like oh.
Speaker 2:I didn't raise any children and I didn't have any children around me.
Speaker 1:I was just sitting there, just like my ankles crossed, and I'm just my hand over my area and I'm just hmm.
Speaker 2:Why do I have?
Speaker 1:this tingly sensation. It feels good down here. As a four year old, I was a freaked out little four year old do you remember?
Speaker 3:what.
Speaker 2:I was going to say you remember your first time what?
Speaker 1:jacking my dick, yeah, and coming yeah, but I was like way older, like I didn't I had sex and then I jacked my dick, like see, I always forget.
Speaker 2:I remember my first time flicking the bean yeah successfully.
Speaker 1:I actually was, yeah I would think as a girl I would be scared to get an infection down there with my hand no, I was just scared at um like I would have my. I would use a latex glove on my hand.
Speaker 2:I was scared of what my muscles were doing, because I never, I didn't know, I didn't. That was the first time, and then I was like, but that felt really, really good. So I'm gonna do it one more time and if the same thing happens, then this is supposed to happen.
Speaker 1:I like the way that I did it, because then it don't really make you feel like beaten off, is like the bees knees, because it's like you actually did have it.
Speaker 2:It just it feels like no, you should have started with beating off.
Speaker 1:No get get up in the water. Know how to have a college-age child.
Speaker 2:Learn how to like you should have been beaten off instead of fucking for real.
Speaker 1:No, come on now you get there, you need to jump in the water. Then you learn how to row the boat. Uh, self-driving it's a good way to do that. All right, uh, we gotta get into this dotty six. So I I have no idea who this gentleman is. Uh, this is part of her td uh, clown show. So let's, let's get into this it's not even like.
Speaker 2:So. I don't know how to pronounce his name it's either dotty or duty, I don't know, but dotty six I'm just gonna I'm just gonna call him dotty six moving forward, right?
Speaker 2:so he was featured on kendrick's uh latest album, gnx. He was on hey now, his album was really good. It was one of the. It was one of the ones that like people automatically liked when the the album dropped. But he has been not happy, I guess, with um, with kendrick and after uh, after the the album dropped. So we're gonna play his his complaints because he came on the internet and said a couple things. Is this play his his complaints? Because he came on the internet and and said a couple things is this like his reasons?
Speaker 1:complaints because I don't got no destination, bro, on sc.
Speaker 4:Nigga, I lost my house. Nigga, I'm homeless. Nigga, I'm a crip. I admit that shit. Nigga, I fell down. I'm gonna bounce back up, though. Watch this, it's all good cuz. And these white motherfuckers. I can't wait till these rap motherfuckers start saying shit in their songs. I'm like damn, I'm gonna beat their ass on the beat and I'm gonna kill them in real life. The fuck that cuz.
Speaker 2:Okay yeah, so obviously this man isn't the most stable. So I saw this he was. He was like um, he put out some text too that he it's. It looks like he was texting kendrick, I don't know like asking for, like a handout no.
Speaker 2:So it said posting that shit now why you not answering bro? And then another it says I'm busy, whole day booked up. Let me know what you gotta say. I'ma say it on the news at 12 and then reply bro, post, I'm on north, I don't give a fuck if Dottie is on the north saying post, dottie is on the north and say K-Dot is a bitch, ain't tapping in. I don't know why he posted that, but, um, I was looking a little bit more into this.
Speaker 2:So Dottie is upset because I guess he doesn't think that Kendrick did enough for him after featuring him on the album and he's saying that he hasn't capitalized, oh no, that he hasn't gained anything or any traction from the song at all. And nigga, that's on you. Like Chike is out here getting it Like he's been in everybody's face. He was another artist that was featured on the album, in everybody's face on TikTok, playing his song, doing his little dance to his song, trying to make it go viral every single day. And then apparently Dottie is on drugs. So there is literally a video of him doing whippets. Like you know, the the nitrous can thing shit kaya was doing first of all, you're a crackhead.
Speaker 2:A crackhead like if you're, if you're huffing gas and then apparently he's homeless because his baby mother kicked him out because of the drugs, and then apparently he on that meth too. Allegedly he's doing meth as well, like the good kind though like I don't know what is there? Is there good?
Speaker 1:meth yeah, there's like biker meth and then you got like the good stuff there, all I know is the meth.
Speaker 2:You do once and you're hooked for life that's he on that crank that's the only meth I know, man, he ain't on that heisenberg, so I I just think it's really so obviously. There are a bunch of people like, oh, blah, blah, kendrick ain't doing nothing for his people and all that, but what can you do for a nigga that's literally doing meth? Um rehab you can only pay for rehab if that person is going to stay there then you do pay for an intervention to the re, then have to rehab you are an artist that I just liked your music and decided to work with.
Speaker 1:We don't know the depths of their relationship and stuff like that oh so any kendrick, not a guy that feel like he owe anything to his fellow black man, is what you're saying no, that's what people on the Internet that are stupid are saying is exactly that. He don't owe nothing to his fellow black man.
Speaker 2:That's what. That's what they say, that's what he's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like oh you.
Speaker 2:You're saying that you don't need to do anything. Blah, blah, blah. And again we don't know what the fuck Kendrick is doing. Again we don't know what the fuck kendrick is doing, I'm saying. But also, how much of a responsibility is it of mine if I've seen you from afar as an artist? I don't know you personally at all. I like your music. I decide to bring you onto this project. Give you a little bit of a platform.
Speaker 1:You continue to sniff gas and do meth and then get kicked out by your baby mom, and that was my fault so you don't think he was doing meth and whippets in the in the studio with with kendrick and kendrick ain't say nothing who knows if they were even in the studio together that's what I'm saying he might have set the the verse over.
Speaker 2:We don't know if they were in the in the um, in the studio together at all.
Speaker 1:so over this past year we've learned that Kendrick then had friends that got exposed to being PDF files on streams, got him homeless. He got Hispanics saying N-word on his record.
Speaker 2:That's what he doing right now.
Speaker 1:You just can't see it, because I'm exposing your clown of an artist who is nothing to what he doing right now, because I'm like you just can't see, because I'm exposing your clown of an artist you just can't see who is, who is nothing to what he says. That he is again. It's just sad, kendrick man. This another, another example of you just being fake just a fake guy.
Speaker 2:He's not a fake guy. You can't, you can't tell, you can't get a nigga out of a meth addiction. Did he try to? He is not g, we don't know. He hasn't said anything. He doesn't reply to anything six is saying that he ain't doing shit. We haven't. The nigga is a meth head. Since when? Since when have we taken the word of a nigga who does hard drugs like that? First of all, dumb is white people drugs. That's fucked up. What the fuck are you doing? Doing meth in the first goddamn place? Maybe?
Speaker 1:he's trying to be a trendsetter. Those was not black people drugs, so he supposed to just do what black people do? Yes, how you know? He's not trying to change the game, he's trying to change it the wrong way.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, Dottie.
Speaker 1:Dottie. Six there is some crackers called no Jumper out there where you at Go fuck with them niggas.
Speaker 2:They'll put some bread in your pocket.
Speaker 1:He's already fucking with them oh he is yes, adam is a sicko. And then niggas literally have been like he's not.
Speaker 2:This nigga is not in a, in a, a good space mentally, all jokes aside, and like whatever he's saying now, obviously there's like an ulterior motive behind whatever he's gonna come out and say. So he's been on I think he's already been on no jumper bugging. No jumper posted this in the first place, like they posted the text messages that were completely incoherent and didn't give us any context at all, because they're drowning.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're just, I think they're not necessarily drowning, they're drowning.
Speaker 2:Adam came and said that they've been expanding way more than they're drowning. Came and said that they've been expanding way more than they're drowning. The the amount that their overhead is more than what they have been making. Is that not drowning? He's cutting the fat now, that's all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were drowning and now they're trying to come back afloat well, what he what he said was basically is that they expected he was being dumb and he expected the growth from covid to continue at the same pace, and obviously that's not going to happen, because everybody's not stuck in the house anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's the same thing that um owner of slutty vegan pinky did. She opened 14 new franchises after um, being popular in atlanta, had a baby left, her company came back, everything is under all of. She had millions of dollars worth of bills and was not bringing in close to enough revenue and then lost the company. This lady was out here buying phantoms and diamonds and doing atlanta shit, you know how niggas in atlanta get money. And now you got a stunt. So, it's the same shit with her.
Speaker 1:No, all right. So we got to get in to some more things here. Hey, y'all All right, y'all got to buckle up. Man Trumped an R-rated and made a decree. Essentially, he's attacking the academics, uh people who have tried to better themselves through educational uh endeavors yeah next month they are going to start garnishing wages again in regards to student loan collection and they trying to take a nigga down. Man, I told y'all, y'all gonna have to get it back in blood. So this would it feel like when they get it back in blood.
Speaker 2:So we haven't had to pay for student loan collections or anything like that for the past five years, like since before COVID type shit, because nobody. It's a horrible economy, economy, nobody is able to do that. I think they pause the student loan payments in order to maybe stimulate the economy a little bit so that we can have a little bit more money to spend.
Speaker 1:Because they was garnishing my wages before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that shit didn't affect me, none. Y'all wasn't taking shit from me and I wasn't giving y'all shit. They might they coming for you. Now you're only going to be in um at risk of your social security or your wages or anything being garnished if your loans are in default which are most people?
Speaker 2:yeah, your loans are in default if you haven't made a payment over the last, like 270 days which is again, most people so um, and then also, if I don't know what, I don't know if it applies to the people who apply for that save act, because that shit is still in limbo also. So the, the income based repayment plan that biden proposed during his administration, is still being debated in the courts right now, so we don't even know if that's legal. So you're right, like everybody's, loans are technically in default or forbearance, if you took them out of default with the, the save plan act. But it's just a very like uneasy time financially and there were plans that we had that I'm like not sure about anymore.
Speaker 1:if, like, chunks of money are going to be coming out of my paycheck and I heard it's 15 percent I mean, that's how it was when I, when they were garnishing my wages during trump's last administration it was 15 they were taking out of my check yeah, so hopefully, like I wouldn't mind them taking out like the the amount that they gave me like estimated with the save act, like that I can, I can, probably I'm fine with, but we don't know if that's gonna be into play at all so it's just extremely uncertain.
Speaker 2:And what is this money gonna be used for?
Speaker 2:I mean it's just going back to quote unquote pay the the because the loan, or whatever the department of education now, um, since they've faced layoffs and like cuts and stuff, they were saying that they don't even have the manpower to um keep track of all of these loans and stuff. If you've recently tried to call the Department of Education, their wait times are hours Like there's nobody to sift through the nonsense. I forget her name, but she was quoted saying that all of the helpers are gone. I was like the helpers you mean like the cogs in the machine, like the little people that you don't give a fuck about are gone. So now things aren't working anymore.
Speaker 1:That's exactly how that works Like. What people don't understand is this is going to destroy a large part of the economy because people were everyone who's millennial and like down is going to be negatively affected the fact that there was things that people were doing.
Speaker 1:You could just say, hypothetically, let's just say, a group of people who went to this restaurant once a week. You add this into play. Now you're probably going to take 60% of those people going to choose to maybe not go to that restaurant so that they can save money, Like it's in regards to with the tariffs and everything that he's putting into place. This is only going to move forward into destroying our economy because you're taking the people who earn the larger amount of money are college educated people.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:The people who are spending the money are. Now you're taking that partly away from them. So now you're destroying the fact that we're giving money to these companies so they continue to do business, and then you're stopping the fact of us being able to have money so that we can be comfortable in our existence. It's just as you're creating then you're medicare, all this other stuff, that you're creating an environment in a world where people are going to react in a very dangerous manner and we're putting we're putting people like we're fortunate because we have, you know, family members. We're in a members, we're in a good position.
Speaker 1:We're in a privileged position, but there's a lot of people who aren't in our position, who it's going to negatively affect really bad Shout out to our support system. Yeah, I think we're always grateful and appreciative of that. It's just the fact that we also understand we aren't the only people in this world and we also understand that when we want to go out and somebody else is being negatively affected, that could then come to us yeah we go out to go see a movie or do something nice and somebody who last year around this time was making it, but you know it's still a little rough.
Speaker 1:Now they out on their luck. Grandma need medicine, baby need diapers, money getting low. Hey, it's a nice couple right here.
Speaker 2:Let's see what they got on and everything is more expensive. Like everything is more expensive.
Speaker 1:So now you got folks who are going to be willing to crash out for way less and folks thinking, oh, you need to pay your loans back, bro, do you see the interest on these loans? I didn't see people who didn't pay their loans back two times over and still got another payment of just interest. It's asinine, it's crazy, it's simply insane what they're doing, and this is not the administration that cares about their people.
Speaker 2:The reason why we still have these student loans, because this clown and his appointed judges were stopping this all throughout Biden's administration. I think now in this administration, we have to like kind of try to find the loophole, to try to look at the bright side. My train of thought is maybe now, since the Department of Education is so thin and they're they're. So what's the term I'm looking for? They're spread thin, they're spread thin. Yeah, they're so spread thin that they're going to be making mistakes, things are going to be getting lost.
Speaker 2:So this is the time to maybe like dispute a couple things like you know, like if they I think when you first take out your loans or something that they have to have on file, like the initial agreement called like a promissory note or something like that right, a lot of the times it's unorganized they lose that shit. You need to go request it. If they cannot bring it up, if they can't find that shit, dispute immediately. Like that's the only thing that we can do is because it's so unorganized right now and it's basically you remember that episode of spongebob that's the papers are flying like that's the us department of education right now. So that's the only thing we could do is like maybe just throw another grenade in there and try to make it a little bit more messy and just start disputing everything another reason I say that they don't care is because for all this time we've had folks who had student loan issues and things like that.
Speaker 1:But you rarely see folks offer like community service in exchange to, you know, being able to work your I'd serve the community like a motherfucker if we if we had to go on a weekend or once a few days a week, go clean up trash and stuff like that for a few hours. That's dystopian as fuck. Though it's not dystopian if you're doing it for school and yeah, yeah you're doing it, you're exchanging you, you've learned habits, you've became a model citizen, and now you're just incentivized to help your community.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because what?
Speaker 1:the community did for you in regards to helping you pay for school.
Speaker 2:Become an even better citizen. That would be a good, but it's a good example.
Speaker 1:I mean, I see places like in Pennsylvania that was doing that, but it wasn't a nationwide thing and I'm like that's to me is never an option. We never to have those discussions where we can really better the community.
Speaker 1:You got college educated, people working in the community incentivized to work in the community. It don't have to be a whole job, 40 hours a week, you could just do five, six hours a week, yeah. And then you just charge that a fictional rate of, you know, 40, 50 dollars an hour or something like that, and then you just have people in the community that are educated and that are good examples yeah, that would.
Speaker 2:That would really be a good idea, especially if the people like donated time to the fields that they um were experts in, like their degree, got their degrees in like it's something that would be ideal, like something like with me, if they wanted me to go in for a couple hours and, you know, edit people's papers and help them out with papers like that was some copywriting or something like that you know, or like take some, take some um written text trans trans um transcribe it to digital, yeah, or like just helping them edit or something like just being in an area where
Speaker 1:yeah you come after, I guess, schools is a little iffy because you're around working with kids and stuff like that. I'm more so think more about community, actual community service, where you're like cleaning up and building things and stuff people, but I just feel like all that could be georgia rather.
Speaker 2:Have inmates do that though. Oh yeah, for sure, because that's super duper free but I just think that's just.
Speaker 1:there's so many options we could have and nobody brings those up and it's because they don't really care. They want to harm people and not actually help them. They want to bend us over.
Speaker 2:That's all they want to do. They doing the bending. The US government is always doing the bending.
Speaker 1:All right. So life is a labor of love, so let's keep building these moments together and remember your job is not your family, only thing you should be exploiting is these corporations.
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