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Angel Reese OVEREACTS Caitlyn Clark Foul, Ryan Clark CALLS OUT RG3, and Joe Budden Blames Cassie
The heated rivalry between WNBA stars Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark takes center stage as we examine how a seemingly routine hard foul sparked fierce debate across social media. What starts as sports analysis quickly transforms into a profound discussion about race, gender, and the subtle "mist of misogyny" that colors how we perceive women athletes—especially Black women—in professional sports.
When former NFL quarterback RG3 weighed in on the incident, sports analyst Ryan Clark delivered a scathing response that cut to the heart of representation issues. Clark's pointed remarks about how some Black men in interracial relationships disconnect from understanding Black women's experiences opens a window into complex intra-community tensions that rarely get such public airtime.
Our conversation takes a powerful turn as we address reactions to Cassie's testimony in the Diddy case, challenging the persistent pattern of victim-blaming in abuse cases. "If Aaliyah was still alive, all of y'all would hate her if she told her story" becomes the episode's most haunting observation—forcing listeners to confront society's treatment of victims who speak out against powerful figures.
The controversy surrounding Candace Owens' prison interview with Harvey Weinstein serves as another focal point, raising serious questions about the ethics of platforming convicted abusers while silencing their victims. We round out the episode with lighter but equally insightful discussions about viral social media moments and Kai Cenat's selective "Streamer University" process.
Whether unpacking sports rivalries, examining media bias, or calling out problematic behavior regardless of who exhibits it, this episode delivers thoughtful cultural critique balanced with authentic humor. Join us for a conversation that matters—where no topic is too big or too complex to tackle with honesty and perspective.
If Aaliyah was still alive. All of y'all would hate her. If she told her story. Yeah, all of y'all would hate her Kind of pushes her to the ground. But I don't think it was that big of a check because she had already lost balance once she got the ball. Angel, when she caught the ball and then Caitlyn rushed her, she had already lost balance so she was going to fall regardless. Plus, she falls all the time, like if you watch her play she place she's always falling. And you're doing all this because maybe you want to get big. He might.
Speaker 4:She was calling him gay too and I think the part where he was like I think all he talks about is his wife's skin color and I think she's more than that. That was shade. Did you see the person he got caught with? Yeah, he was thick. I'm I'm supposed to say that, not you, it's your boy, rg3, and I just I already hate him. He started the video with yo yo yo, I can tell you date white women, this your boy.
Speaker 4:This your boy, rg3. Like okay, don't ever tell me, you see my wife's man.
Speaker 1:Now she's over here wondering whether she picked the wrong black man and druski and the little boy got mad.
Speaker 4:His mama and stuff was making videos about it because druski called the little boy fat and that little boy was in it.
Speaker 1:He was in the content world and he was fat.
Speaker 4:They were true but everything that that you think and and say is formed around this like mist of misogyny.
Speaker 1:No, what did you see from someone who just is a fair weather viewer?
Speaker 4:I saw her knock her down. That's what I saw. She was like black.
Speaker 1:The Joe Bunny community had a space that was actually talking about this and a lot of women came up on stage and they voiced their opinion about how they thought it was very ignorant.
Speaker 5:It was.
Speaker 1:Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives. What?
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Speaker 4:No, I think their thing more so is, I shouldn't have to beg you to be a father.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If you are a father. That wasn't my what I was discussing, what I was saying.
Speaker 4:You said they more, more importance is placed on the money, but I think it's just easier to get. I think it's just the easier process for you to just get the money so that you can take care of your own child instead of begging this nigga to take care of his child.
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Speaker 1:It's not a great song. Don't make me pull up like a man at the turn up there. You weren't supposed to repeat it. You weren't supposed to repeat it well you just gonna have to bleep that out. All right, so we got to get into some pop culture discussions, but we're going to be in a little bit of the sports world because the wmba is back and y'all mad that the two girls is beefing with each other again yeah, they gonna.
Speaker 1:They gonna have like forever beef at this point, I mean as long as both of them are stay within relevancy in regards to like how they play and angel off the court they're gonna. This is going to be fuel for a long time yeah, I think it's good for their careers.
Speaker 4:A lifelong beef I mean. It is but the implications for you to have a versus the thing is is just the implications of everything.
Speaker 1:We're going to get into just a little bit. Implications of everything to its logical extent ends with angel not having the best of time, though because she's black that just how everything's also being painted.
Speaker 1:So y'all didn't see. Like I said, indiana fever played the chicago sky. There was the opening game of the wmba season and in the midst of again uh, indiana did win the game, but in the middle of the game around I think it was like third or fourth quarter Kaitlyn gives a hard foul to Angel Reese. Angel Reese did not appreciate the hard foul.
Speaker 4:She fully knocked her down.
Speaker 1:I mean it was part of the game. Women play hard. I mean it also looks harder when y'all are smaller. You know y'all have a different frame than men.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess smaller. You know y'all have a different frame than men. Yeah, I guess I don't know. I feel like they'd be playing petty. I feel like they'd be trying to hurt each other for real?
Speaker 1:not to me. Well, if you look at the play, she's going for the ball and then she does give a little check at the end. That kind of pushes her to the ground. But I don't think it was that big of a check because she had already lost balance once she got the ball or angel. When she caught the ball and then uhlyn rushed her, she had already lost balance so she was going to fall regardless. Plus, she falls all the time. If you watch her play she's always falling. That's part of just her giddiness of trying to be active and whatnot.
Speaker 4:I thought you were going to say she just got long awkward limbs that she don't know how to control.
Speaker 1:No, she just she's not a skilled player, she's an active player. She plays hard. So because when you're playing hard it means you're gonna lose your balance, sometimes you're gonna fall on the ground, like that's gonna be a part of it. So that's just kind of the style of the game that she kind of has to play because of you know her skill set. But Caitlyn did get a triple double in the game and they end up winning and it kind of set everybody astray. Way I look at it again, I play ball, I play hoop. I didn't foul folks way harder than that. I've been fouled harder than that. That's just part of the game. She didn't go for the head she. She didn't like stand over her and try to like intimidate her after she did it. It was. To me it was a clean foul. But what did you see from someone who just is a a fair weather viewer?
Speaker 4:I saw her knock her down. That's what I saw. She was like black bitch, uh, like. See the reason, we're not literally, but like. That's basically what I saw. That's what I interpreted it as the thing was like.
Speaker 1:What I really didn't like about it was, generally speaking, the. The consensus with everybody was upset about how angel reacted and the reason. I didn't like what people were talking about, because when I play ball and I fouled a guy hard and he reacted like angel did, in my head you're acting like a bitch. So when I see two women get into a similar altercation and it looks a similar way to that, I'm like that's just normal. Why wouldn't that happen?
Speaker 4:okay, so when guys crazy because everything that that you think and and say is formed around this like mist of misogyny. No, I'm you be like oh, if men did that, they'd be acting like little women, but they women, so they could act like that, like that's what you just said. Okay.
Speaker 1:And that is a mist of misogyny.
Speaker 4:There's a like the morning dew, just a gentle mist of misogyny around. There's a like like, like the morning dew, just a gentle mist of misogyny on every opinion that you have, but what you?
Speaker 1:what you fail to ignore, in my opinion, is that I'm holding the men and the women in the same, like I'm not just pointing at angel saying you're this aggressive woman, why are you acting crazy?
Speaker 4:about that, okay, that that's all, regardless of whose side you're on. You could be fully on the woman's side, but it's a misogynistic dog whistle in the messaging. If you listen deep enough, there's always something a little bit off. Like you not on our team for real. When you want to be on our team, you not you one of them you an op and you're always going to be an op.
Speaker 1:I'm just keeping it a bean.
Speaker 4:You are op in sheep's clothing no.
Speaker 1:I'm just keeping it a bean. That's how I would look at it, so it made sense to me.
Speaker 4:No-transcript, nash, and it got crazy so I mean the men aren't being called aggressive and angry and unnecessary emotions and all that. They're not. They're just like yeah, he got a little heated, he got a little heated, yeah, the part that I didn't like, though, about what Angel did, so I've watched some of I watched a little bit of what Angel has played last year and stuff like that and she got fouled hard too.
Speaker 1:Like there was older girls and there was the players who were veterans who were fouling her real hard last year. And the thing I don't like is you didn't get tough with the older girls, you didn't get tough with the veterans when they was pushing you around.
Speaker 4:You think it's because it was her rookie year.
Speaker 1:No, I don't, Because when it was people smaller than her I've seen her get tough when the girls are. When she can look down at a girl, she feels more emboldened. She, when she can look down at a girl, she feels more emboldened. She's like like, you know, when you probably like in middle school or like in the elementary school, and it's like the one tall girl and she don't really fit in with the girl. So she's a little bit of a bully because she don't fit in, because she's physically more, you know, dominant than the other girls. I got a story about that girl. See, that's, that's what angel is.
Speaker 4:It's not the story you thought it was. I'm saying, just saying that's what Angel is.
Speaker 1:Angel's like the Helga. What's Pataki? What's her name? Helga Pataki. She's like Helga Pataki, like the Gross Sisters. That's anti-black. I was trying to pick white women. She's like Patty from hey Arnold, that's who Angel Reese is on the court. That's why I didn't like that. Don't get tough with the woman last year or the other. Any other time you got fouled you didn't get tough with her she's never gotten tough with anybody.
Speaker 4:That she's uh gotten fouled against to me. I've only seen it when it's little people anytime.
Speaker 1:I've ever seen her get back to somebody. It's somebody that she's looking down towards. There's never somebody she's looking eye to eye or up with the lady is a smart lady okay, well, I mean, hey, you can do the business call if you got.
Speaker 4:I'm not about to like go at you. If I think you could really like beat the brakes off me, but then don't act tough. That's the only thing then I can and I can say then you're not tough we can say that, okay, cool, I don't think angel reese is trying to be tough, tough you don't think she's trying to be tough, she's trying to, she's trying, I think she's trying to be a good athlete.
Speaker 4:I think she's trying to brand herself. I think she's trying to be that girl. I don't think she's trying to be like, oh don't mess with me because I'm angel reese, and I don't think she's trying to do that.
Speaker 1:But it's because I'm telling you, I'm seeing her do it to smaller people. I think she's a bully. I don't think she's like tough. You're right, she's not tough, she's a bully. She takes advantage of the people who she physically can't take it with and then we can agree on that.
Speaker 4:If that's what she's doing, tell us about your bully in school that's. I told you that's. That wasn't the the. The story is not the story that you think it is like she wasn't the tall girl that I went to middle school with. She was one of my best friends. Like she didn't bully nobody, she had the jugs on her and she was just she was. She was one of my best friends. Like she didn't bully nobody, she had the jugs on her and she was just she was. She was giving head before everybody.
Speaker 1:Caitlin was getting fouled all last season and the minute she returns the favor now, she gets labeled a dirty player that's crazy.
Speaker 4:Anybody who's doing stuff like that as a dirty player though no that's a hard, clean foul.
Speaker 1:That was not a to me. Like I said, it got turned into a flagrant. I think that's just because the crowd and the environment kind of like made it feel like it was bigger than it was and her reaction. But you watch that nine times out of 10, that's a normal hard. I'm a competitor foul, so. But it did spark a lot of controversy, like a lot of people were reacting to it. Uh, you know, are you familiar with rg3?
Speaker 4:is I do not know who that is at all. So rg3 was, he was my, he was my former quarterback.
Speaker 1:Uh, when we were the washington redskins he was a rookie of the year I think it was a second pick overall and his career was ended like fairly early because of injuries and he was relegated to being backup for most of his career. But he now does sports commentary. He worked on espn for a little bit and now he kind of does his own show where he has, like him and his wife will sit in the well, she'll sit in the back and while he just talks sports or whatever. And so he reacted to this. So he had a tweet where he essentially said Angel Reese hates Caitlyn Clark and then he goes on his on his show and kind of outlines why he believes that. And it got a lot of people upset, especially the boys at the pivot.
Speaker 1:So that's Ryanyan clark, uh channing and fred taylor. Apparently these gentlemen have become, uh, the quintessential black men who will defend black women anytime they're disrespected publicly on any platform. They did with andrew schultz, but then they also had him come on the show and I think they lost a little points. So I feel like this was a little odd, because they do do these little random episodes like this where they'll talk about something in the culture, and I feel like this is one of those ones where they tried to garner that favor back after losing it with the Schultz interview, and so I think I'll give you a clip with Ryan Clark where he's discussing. So play that clip a little bit for us.
Speaker 8:To being able to read the expressions of a person and know their intent, know their character, know their perspective. But he does understand hate, because I think he also understands the hate of self. When you look at the play, which is all we can speak to as professionals, all we can speak to as analysts Angel Reese pushed one of her teammates, kaitlyn Clark had a hard foul, which is part of basketball. I feel like it was assessed correctly, and Angel Reese's reaction Is the sort of reaction you get in a situation when you feel like you took an intentionally hard foul. That's competitiveness, that's rivalry, that's not hate.
Speaker 8:And so now, though, when RG3 jumps over To the hate train or to the angry train, it now follows along With what we saw from Keith Olbermann, what we saw from Dave Portnoy, as they poured on to Andrew Reese to make her the villain in Caitlin Clark's heroic, or hero story. The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with. Being on the opposite side of Caitlyn Clark's rise and ascension into stardom and a ton of her fandom has come along with some racial bias or some racial pieces to why people love her so much. And so now, if you're RG3, when is the last time within your household, you've had a conversation about what she's dealing with? You haven't been able to do that because in both of your marriages you've been married to white women.
Speaker 8:You haven't had opportunities to have those conversations to educate you on what they're feeling, what black women deal with, what they're seeing when they think of a young Angel Reese. And the whole time that he's mimicking Angel Reese and bobbing his head and moving his neck. While he's doing this whole piece, his wife is in the back amening and clapping, and so to me it's just another situation that now this young lady has to deal with. When I worked with RG3, he would make all of these sort of corny jokes about milk and how much he loved it and how important it was, and he always points out on social media the color of his wife's skin, as if the color of her skin is what makes her special, as if the color of her skin is what makes her a good wife. I've met the lady, I've had a conversation with her. I think she's more than that. But it also leads to what black women deal with. See that, okay, it's shade Black women who have chose to date or marry outside of their race.
Speaker 1:All right, we're finishing up. I thought it was a good thing.
Speaker 8:They always feel like we should have an opportunity to move past that and understand that angel reese can be great in her own right, as caitlin clark is as well all right.
Speaker 1:So I just want to say because there's another reaction to rg3 that we're going to play in just a moment, but I have to say you can tell he really don't like RG3. That nigga didn't stutter once.
Speaker 4:No, he was like. That man does not have these conversations in his house because he married the milk and he loves the milk and that's all he can talk about. And every time I was in a room with the man, that's all he can say. And I think the part where he was like with the man, that's what. That's all he can say. And I think the part where he was like I think all he talks about is his wife's skin color and I think she's more than that.
Speaker 1:That was shade. Yeah, I mean, that was shade, saying that you only value her because of that complex. Yes, and I feel like a lot and he said I see the humanity in your wife. Where you don't I'm killing, you, don't ever tell me.
Speaker 4:You see my wife's now she's over here wondering whether she picked the wrong black man. She's like, wow, I could have had one that respects my agency as well. Like I'm not just a tall glass of milk to him. Oh my goodness, like I could have had love and respect so I do so.
Speaker 1:I do want to say this before we, because I was having some conversations about this and they were saying and I seen like some other football players and a lot of people try to say that he was talking about RG3's wife in a negative sense, did you?
Speaker 4:get that at all?
Speaker 1:No, not at all Okay before we get into it, play RG3's clip now in regards to his response to that. That should be one of the first ones I sent you.
Speaker 9:RG3, and I just wanted to. Yo, yo, yo. What's up everybody? It's your boy, rg3, and I just I already hate him.
Speaker 4:He started the video with yo yo yo. I can tell you date white women.
Speaker 1:This your boy.
Speaker 4:This your boy, RG3. Like, okay, continue.
Speaker 9:I wanted to get on here and talk to you guys because there's been a lot of buzz, a lot of conversations about my sports. Take that Andrew Reese hates Kaitlin Clark, which is purely based in basketball, but I think all of you know there's a line in life that you just simply don't cross. Wives and children are always off limits, and Ryan Clark Children are.
Speaker 9:Sprinted past that line. Ryan Clark didn't like my sports. Take that Andrew Reese hates Kaitlin Clark and that's fine Children are and personally attack me and my family just because you don't agree with a sports opinion that is purely based off the sport. I didn't make it personal, but what that really shows is just how loyal of a person Ryan Clark is. But, ryan, you crossed the line, man.
Speaker 4:This is so corny Like I don't even think he believes himself in the bullshit that he's saying right now in sports media for personal attacks.
Speaker 9:I've said it before, but certainly personal attacks against wife and children have always been off limits.
Speaker 4:You attack me can I stop this? I can tell he trying to be a real nigga, but you don't know how to do that it's nowhere near your core at all.
Speaker 1:Nope, you just sound lame, and so that was the main thing I was trying. I was. I wanted to ask you after we, you know, listen to his reaction. Like I don't feel like he attacked his wife in any capacity, not at all, I think.
Speaker 1:RG3. Yeah, I think that was the main thing he went out and when he was talking about when he brought up his wife, he was only merely talking about. That is who you, as an individual, prop up, and for what reason. It's not like you're saying she's smart, she's super athletic, she's funny. No, you're propping her up because she's white and they went through it and sound like all this time he's talked about putting milk and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1:When he had pictures of his wife and I was also having this conversation with somebody that was saying that he was out of line for saying he's he doesn't, he's not aware of the experience of black women because he has a mom and an aunt and all this stuff and I sat back and thought about it for real and I was like that's not enough. That's not a really an experience with black women. If it's your mom, sister, cousin, family, you don't really encapsulate a lot of that, you don't really absorb a lot of that because those experiences are going to be similar, probably similar to yours, or you're going to have like a bird's eye view of it to where you. It's not really culture you're seeing. You're not really seeing somebody who you have to experience, from their, from their words. Per se, you're just like okay, well, I know you didn't do well in school, so I know you don't do focus on this, I know, so that's what you can do with family you can't do that.
Speaker 4:You're seeing them personally. You're not seeing them like from the macro view of like you're. You're a black woman, an african-american woman. You're like you're my mom, you're my aunt, you're a black woman, an African-American woman. You're like you're my mom, you're my aunt, you're my sister, so yeah.
Speaker 1:And I have kind of an example of this Like one of my good friends. His wife is white and I remember one time we were having a discussion of who kind of gets it the worst from our community if they date outside the race and my argument to him was like black women get it worse, because when black women date outside the race and a bunch of stuff well, not even just that they get get it from black, other black women and they get it from black men. When a black man does it, most likely he's just going to get it from. Yeah, the only time you'll get it from black men is if you're being overbearing, you're doing too much with it, like rg3, yeah, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 1:like even then, like the people that I know who've dated out there, it's never been this obsession like it was what it seemed like for RG3. And it just makes sense that when you speak about this and you're heavily critical of a black woman, that's going to come into people's mind. They're going to see that you value your wife for her being white and I'm going to assess that your comment comes from a place of not valuing angel reese because she's black and it may not even be that cut and dry with it, but more than likely lived experiences and things of that nature, I'm probably right um, rg3 is the perfect example of like the type of black men that we be talking about.
Speaker 4:When black women are like we don't care that y'all be dating white women, just shut the fuck up about us. Like you love your white woman, do what you want to do, just leave us out of it. Like I hate that. God wait, before we leave the wmba stuff. I saw I saw somebody say um, because you see how the they they walk in with like they cute little outfits and stuff on. I forget the creator's name, but she was like she wants the wmba players to stop wearing heels, not because, um, for anything other than they look extremely unstable. None of them know how to walk in heels and somebody's gonna break an ankle and that's that. And you can't play for the rest of the season. Like, stop wearing the heels. And then there was just a compilation of angel reese, just like a deer like girl.
Speaker 4:And then she was like I gotta take these off. You know you can't stay a baddie for long. How long, how long did it take for you to get from the parking lot to that hallway girl? You wasn't up all night and I'm like, and give me a break and she noted.
Speaker 1:They called her to the place and said, okay, we're going to say action, and then you start walking like you didn't have to do all that.
Speaker 1:She's over at capping, but all right. So we got to get into a little bit more. We're not going to get too much more into the diddy case. There has been like tons of more testimony since we've last discussed a few male escorts here and there, I believe what isn't kid cuddy's now supposed to be testifying. What I've seen being reported now, yeah, but I just think that the reaction to Cassie's testimony.
Speaker 1:I think he um testified today okay, that's what I thought I saw, but I wanted to just get into kind of like the reaction around Cassie's testimony and the defense and, you see, just kind of like a lot of people. Obviously we had our opinions. Everybody just kind of brought out their opinions and there there was this discussion around questioning Cassie and saying, hey, are we allowed to say some of your story seems fishy and potentially we feel like you were a participant rather than a victim, and I think that was kind of going on. I sent you a clip with Gilbert Arenas, uh, playing it, so I wanted to play that in just a moment.
Speaker 4:I think it's really um, it's a gray area and it's like a shady area for us to like start questioning her role in being a victim, because being a victim is extremely complicated. It it messes with your head, it changes your morphology, basically completely. So I don't think any of us, regular people who haven't been through this type of trauma at all, could speculate as to whether her behavior over the 13 years that she was with him is normal or not. We, we don't have the basis at all, and sometimes it's okay to be like I don't have enough knowledge to have an opinion on this oh dirty.
Speaker 5:Oh, you don't listen to Kid Cudi. No more Breaking news. What are you going to do? Look at it, breaking news. It says sex trafficking and racketeering. What the fuck is he going to go up there and say the nigga tried to burn my car? What does that got to do with racketeering and sex trafficking? Was the motherfucker in there hiding? Was they sex trafficking people through your car before your birth? What does your testimony have to do with these charges? I think the DA doing this shit on purpose, bringing in some motherfucking kidnappers. We don't care about everything else. I don't. We don't care about everything else.
Speaker 5:I don't care about the assistant wanting a job, not wanting a job, getting hit with a skillet. I don't care where the kidnap people at. That's what I came here for. I want to see motherfuckers, slave looking people coming out, bushes and shit. Y'all done found them. This is crazy come on.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's my boy, gilbert man, you know that's my guy, but the ignorance is off the charts before you begin, there's one part in like before the trial.
Speaker 4:I did think that like it would be much more dramatic than it currently is from what we're seeing.
Speaker 1:Like I really thought that they was going to be like pulling people out his basement, like well, I think that's, that's one of like on some r kelly I think that's one of the issues that we kind of have as a group of people, where where we see things like this, it has to be this super violent, vile the most dramatic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like we have to, we have to make this into this, this complex thing, when the fact that he blew up someone's car is a crime, that's racketeering, and then they have to like let the jury know that this is the type of behavior that this man has engaged in the past, however many decades Like. This is who he is, so he is capable of X, y, z, which is what we're charging him with.
Speaker 1:One of the other things that people don't understand is like you can ask questions about a case. That's nothing wrong with asking the question. There is a thing such as a bad faith question, the question there is a thing such as a bad faith question, and what I mean by that is if you're paying attention to the trial and you're listening to the facts that she's telling, the context that she's putting this into, then you would easily understand that her brain is not in the place that it can make a conscious decision. I said this when I was in spaces the other day. I said you keep placing her in situations and asking why didn't you act rationally when she was in spaces the other day? I said you keep placing her and asking in situations and asking why didn't you act rationally when she was not in an in?
Speaker 1:She was in an irrational state? Yeah, she was not. She was not a rational person at that moment. So to ask uh her why she didn't do something rational is a bad faith question, and it feels like either you don't care about the case and so you're just asking questions just to have yourself be heard, or you're sinister and you're trying to make this woman, who's clearly giving you reason to believe that she was abused, was a mental victim to somebody, and you're just trying to demonize her instead.
Speaker 10:All sides, of course, of course, of course. I'm going to read y'all what Willie D had to say, because I enjoy Willie D. I absolutely love Willie. D. Willie D says I know some of you are about to be tight over what I'm about to say, but I'll take my chances.
Speaker 7:See, willie D is braver than the niggas already he jumping out there, but that's why I fuck with him.
Speaker 10:I don't have a dog in the fight, but using cassie's youth as a blanket excuse for the choices she made during her decade-long relationship with diddy is problematic because it removes the necessary element of accountability, without which no one learns or grows. Diddy and Cassie is a cautionary tale for men who use their money and power to abuse others. On the flip side, it tells young women who will come after Cassie no matter what you get yourself into and who gets hurt, as long as you are young, you won't be held accountable. By her own admission, she stayed, not out of fear, but because she didn't want another woman to take her place.
Speaker 10:Cassie is not some helpless victim. She is a savvy home wrecking opportunist who left Ryan Leslie for Diddy, knowing he was with Kim Porter, simply to upgrade her lifestyle, turning both Kim and Ryan into collateral damage. And let's not forget the kids. In court she testified that she enjoyed the freak-offs, just not as often as Diddy did. She ultimately left him for the trainer he paid for, tried to blackmail him for $30 million and, when that failed, sued him and walked away with $20 million. Now that she's the prosecution's star witness trying to bury him. Yes, diddy was abusive and should have been punished for it. But let's not pretend cassie didn't cash in after every black and I I'm not.
Speaker 1:I don't feel comfortable saying that so before that's so weird, yeah, and again, I feel like joe was using that as a way to push his own talking points out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, without saying it himself and taking accountability, which is really fucking ironic, because how are you trying to not take accountability for your own opinion and saying that this victim should take accountability for being?
Speaker 1:victimized. So then the joe bunning community had a space that was actually talking about this, and a lot of women came up on stage and they voiced their opinion about how they thought it was very ignorant it was disgusting the conversation they were having and it got to the point where joe was came up on stage, where he was upset about this and it's like, but nigga, you are ignorant.
Speaker 1:You are ignorant about this and you probably come from a mindset when you think about this, your mindset, your brain, the way that you process this. You come from a a mindset that, hey, I potentially engage in certain behaviors like this you and diddy are nipple brothers.
Speaker 4:Y'all are nipple. Y'all are nipple buddies. Y'all rub nips together. See, I wasn't gonna go that far, I will like both of y'all.
Speaker 1:Y'all are both weirdo nipple rubbing niggas and again this, this idea around domestic violence, around the fact that his issue with the word stockholm syndrome and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:These are just things that you're not issue with stockholm syndrome, because you don't fucking know what stockholm syndrome is no, it's because he he can't allow, he can't allow for his actions to have a level of accountability like so we've known we've talked about this on the show before a list of women who have accused him of something. So when you have that mindset of and just we talked about the way he deals with his girl when you have this mindset of I am the bigger deal, I'm the bigger person, you feel like anybody should just fall in line, like there's a part in his brain where he feels like Cassidy, cassidy should have just fell in line, that you were in a position that you were not going to make for yourself. So why are you upset about anything that you have to do, but y'all don't take into consideration anything that y'all say at a little level, a little bit of critical thinking, just a little bit. Y'all don't like doing that. Because if you ask the fact that she's 19, she's not fully developed, she's learning how to be a woman from this man, then you try to bring in Ryan Leslie.
Speaker 1:She was 16. Abused. Her brain is nothing but abuse. And this goes, and I've said this on the show before and I'm going to say it again If Aaliyah was still alive, all of y'all would hate her if she told her story.
Speaker 4:Yeah, All of y'all would hate her. She wouldn't be a baby girl anymore, she would be a whore and she'd be like oh, why did you wait so long to come out and tell us and this and that like?
Speaker 1:that's exactly what I see when I see these conversations with people and I feel bad for like the women that have to hear it, because it lets you know like men for a large, for a large part, don't understand consent and they don't see a female body as something that needs to be viewed as a person.
Speaker 4:It's very clear that way and then him, the whoever this willie d guys is saying that cassie took diddy away from from kim and this and that like diddy wasn't like planning whole elaborate events just to like get near her and trick her into like being near him.
Speaker 1:That's, that's not even true and just just to wrap up the section, joe did another thing that was really nasty. He gave uh mark a book and the book was from, I guess, a former bodyguard of diddy, and this this bodyguard is on trial, I believe, for grape, and like the book, I guess, is trying to like justify him or try to say he's innocent or whatever, but just to pass that book when there are women in this world right now who know who that individual is, who have made claims against him and are trying to fight that he goes in jail to. Just oh oh, he's a good dude. Read the book, it's just, it's vile man, it's.
Speaker 4:That's some sick stuff to me even though I enjoy mark on the show, I don't know how long I can, like, blindly, just continue listening to this podcast with the list, the running list, of atrocities that joe has committed against women. Like I think I'm just gonna stop listening to the show again like really enjoy mark, but the just listen to night school yeah, every everybody else is is just terrible. Like I don't even like mel that much. I like her opinions are fine, but like she's not that entertaining to me anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just think it creates good dynamics. To understand like these are how common people think for the most part, and when you have somebody like mark in the room, it allows you to learn tools and techniques to counteract it so when you're in those situations in real life. Now you have a framework on, you know how to combat it.
Speaker 4:So I think that's what the bigger portion of this all you gotta mark, all you gotta do is ask dumb niggas questions. I mean they're gonna be dumb about the things that they are saying oh, well then that gives some headaches. They don't like doing that yeah, like that's what mark be. Like okay, and then let me ask you some more questions about what you just said.
Speaker 1:I mean, and the next, thing, you know, but who told him to do that?
Speaker 4:who oh you?
Speaker 1:I see that's how I know I'm not flat on her, no more yo, I just want y'all to know that I'm a regular nigga to my wife. Yo I used to be superior, but you are still a superior man I'm normal all right, so we got to talk about candace owens.
Speaker 1:We got to bring her up again. This is, this has to be one of these sickest women of all time. I don't even understand how, as a woman, you would get this off. So she did an interview with harvey weinstein and she put it on her page for, like patreon, she posted a trailer here how did?
Speaker 4:how well is he? He's in prison right.
Speaker 1:Well, he's having a. His trial is actually being done over for the new york case. He's in prison for the la trial that he had. He's still trying to get that appeal. But he got appealed for New York and so basically what happened was he didn't get like he did anything, like he proved his innocence. They use someone's testimony that wasn't allowed to be used in court and so, because that testimony was used, the judge allowed that testimony to be used. They have to do the case over again, the New York one. So, but he's actually talking to her from from prison and I think it's the LA.
Speaker 7:I commit these crimes. I swear that before God and the people watching now and on my family. The people who support me are scared to talk. They are frightened to death, that they're going to be canceled.
Speaker 2:What I always found to be problematic about the Me Too movement from the beginning. We're conflating. He made a pass at me and I didn't like it with rape.
Speaker 7:It's a complete fabrication about my relationship with Gwyneth. I didn't put my hand on her. I didn't touch her. I definitely made a pass. Ashley Judd's claims are ridiculous. I settled with Rose McGowan. I gave her $100,000. Don't tell my wife, don't get me in trouble. $100,000. Don't tell my wife, don't get me in trouble. It's all conflated and it's all led to the idea that I am going to be the one they persecute. They broke me. They broke me in half.
Speaker 2:There's just so much, when you read the transcripts, that defy common sense for me.
Speaker 7:I've asked to have lie detector tests brought into the prison. I know they're not admissible, but I want the world to know.
Speaker 2:To be honest with you, I think a lot of people are going to hear this conversation.
Speaker 7:Candace, you know, one thing I can tell you is this is going to explode.
Speaker 1:So this is the lady who we discussed on our show, who was obsessed with Frankis, you know, talking about the Jews doing all of these nasty things to people. And now she brings on her show King Nasty. What he is, he's a man. He's King Nasty.
Speaker 4:I don't think you can say King Nasty.
Speaker 1:Yo, they be calling us.
Speaker 4:We just did Black Fatigue last week, I know, but like we just got monetized, my nigga asked a white woman to call us to say the n-word on his show.
Speaker 1:I can say that on mine go ahead and get your shit off and all I'm saying is this is doesn't make any sense to me. Like one, we can just get into just the the feminist solidarity point. If you want to just touch on that, but just to be the person who you claim to be and then say all of this stuff about hollywood is touching kids, is violent, promoting sex and a disgusting lifestyle, then you go to the dude who was the champion of all of that she does not stand on anything other than I.
Speaker 4:Want to have a different opinion than what the majority's opinion is this is just a contrarian, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Like I just couldn't imagine not at least having a discussion with those women first, if I knew I was going to interview him to at least get an understanding of what they're saying. Just hear it from them, if possible, because the only reason he's going to you because you're the only person that's going to take him. Nobody wants to talk to Harvey Weinstein no because any man that does it.
Speaker 1:You're going to look like a sicko any woman who does. You're going to look like a loser. She just has so much loser on her. You can't make her look worse she does.
Speaker 4:She thinks that it's gonna get her to like a certain point, probably, but I don't, I don't know, I don't think it is. And then the the comments on her thread are just like concerning. Like he was the fall guy, like I believe this story and went along with it from the jump, so like what?
Speaker 1:So he's the fall guy for.
Speaker 4:What's his name? Oh, jeff, yeah.
Speaker 1:Jeff was, wasn't Jeff already? Well, I guess, but Jeff, I'm trying to think around that time Jeffrey Epstein was probably yeah, he was probably dead by the time he was convicted. Yeah, because he got convicted like 21. Jeffrey was like 19, 2019.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know, but there was one thing that she said. She said the thing that she doesn't like about the me too movement is that we conflated he made a pass at me and I didn't like it with rape. That was not what happened. It wasn't like oh girl, you look, look good, can I have your number? Like it wasn't that. It was men in casting rooms literally pulling out their dicks and being like you want this role? Do you want this role? That's not what it was. It wasn't just men flirting with women, it was disgusting pieces of shit, men.
Speaker 1:What I think she's doing she's conflating, kind of like. During the early, like during the 2010s, there was a lot of discussion around women, kind of breaking down what it is to be a woman in a day-to-day. So you remember that one clip of the woman walking through new york and she got all the cat calls and stuff, and so I think partly is because of, like, the pr people who are running this, like I don't mean official, but the people who were running pr for this kind of idea. They convoluted a lot of stuff. So I can't admit that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when people were getting accused of sexual assault or sexual misconduct, it was all looking like the same thing and it wasn't specifying it. So then when you don't do that and then someone tries to act like they're waking up the story, then it sounds like, oh well, they're making a big deal. When he just did this and I thought he did this, so now it, it changes things in your brain, but we need to label things the correct thing, like sexual, misconduct sexual assault like the stories where he was raping women, though like that's the thing he there was.
Speaker 1:So there was a laundry list of things that he was doing it wasn't just like he was making passes that there was women who claimed that they got raped by him. Yeah. They were forced or heavily implied to have. Well, not heavily implied but heavily incentivized to have sex with him for roles and things of that nature. So that is where the idea of you're a bad person comes from, Harvey.
Speaker 4:But why didn't Harvey get charged with a?
Speaker 1:Rico. Well, maybe he wasn't doing the same things that Diddy was. It was like he was using people, his enterprise yeah like he probably was just using the fact that he was using his enterprise in a different way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was using more his power than it was his enterprise so he was using like his influence and who he is, instead of like everybody around yeah, like his enterprise would have done the the gift.
Speaker 1:So if you would have slept with me, then the enterprise would have rewarded you yeah, that, but it wasn't like the enterprise set everything up so that now we're together and I'm committing a crime against you. But I just think that was just crazy. I didn't watch the whole interview. I'm not gonna pay you candace. I'm sorry you're not getting no money out of me, and more clips will come out eventually you're gonna give it up anyway.
Speaker 1:You're a loosey goosey with that to me. I know we was joking about like getting certain uh deals and contracts and stuff like that, but it's just some things where it's like I couldn't imagine having a conversation with somebody like this and not being on his ass the whole interview yeah like that was the only way I'm going to do it, if I'm going to be able to ask my questions.
Speaker 1:Uh, be as heavily critical as I need to be. I'm not gonna sit there. And yes, sir, you win. It's not my head at the dude. Who's who's convicted? At least it's still. It's still one of his convictions are still in place. The the new york one is being challenged again, like I said, because of technicalities, but the la one is still in place. He's trying to appeal it and we'll see what happens there. Again, justice needs to be served regardless. If he uh, you think what you think about him, but I just don't see how candace can can live with herself like that. Just I.
Speaker 4:I think she sleeps very easily at night because she's a evil gremlin more than likely she's completely fine no, she's definitely a dark woman and it's just.
Speaker 1:I couldn't imagine just being a woman, knowing what you are susceptible to and knowing where men can put themselves. Maybe she doesn't believe that that can happen to her, but when you look into her story what them white boys did to her in high school, how she went to running and crying, like that's who she really is. That's her true colors. All this other stuff is a facade, so maybe she's just willing to lose her soul for it. Uh, you, you seeing what happened with uh, boss man dilo.
Speaker 4:we can keep this one real short, real quick I did, but I didn't think that was real, for real, because boss man dilo apparently got caught he boss man down low he D-low on the down low and I just the dude Did you see the person he got caught with. Yeah, he was thick, I'm supposed to say that?
Speaker 1:not you.
Speaker 4:Oh nah.
Speaker 1:Nigga was thick. I was confused. I was laying there looking at the camera, like how are you shaped like that? Like his legs look like a thick girl's legs. I've never seen that there are literally straight men who are shaped like that. I've never noticed it. So that was the picture on my timeline.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, they don't have like skin tight clothes.
Speaker 1:I've never seen a nigga faded up with a lineup and thick as shit, like that shit was heavy. You live in Atlanta. I'm not looking at thick niggas. I've never seen a nigga look like that Like anytime. I looking at thick niggas. I've never seen a nigga look like that like anytime. I've ever seen a nigga be heavyset and he got weird pants on. So I'm not looking at the nigga's ass like this.
Speaker 4:Nigga was bent over, looking like he was lotto niggas be thick, double stacked up on a tuesday this nigga looked like double cheeked up.
Speaker 1:This nigga looked like a peanut butter cup.
Speaker 4:Yo the way he was posted oh, wow, and that's your favorite candy, so you wanted to eat him no, that's not what I wanted to do, but that's what you look like.
Speaker 1:What, what, what?
Speaker 4:did you want to do? I was confused at first. What were you confused about? Because I was. I thought I got one of the straight ones the whole time, this nigga like thick, thick, light-skinned niggas.
Speaker 1:I was confused so you like that? No, I didn't know if that was like. I didn't know if that was like a transgender. Which part of you was confused? My head, like this head, I was just I didn't understand. I'm like, because at first I looked I was like, oh, maybe that's just a thick girl with small titties but in a lineup.
Speaker 4:But I'm like then I was like why you got a lineup? That don't make sense to me.
Speaker 1:Maybe she uh she a thick stud in transition that was what I was confused with, and then I guess there's like some more stuff coming out about boss man dilo, like that's not his hair oh yeah, that's a, that's a unit.
Speaker 4:I didn't know, that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a 16 piece unit and then when I first heard this story I thought it was the plug x. You know, the big plug x. I like his music. I was scared. At first I'm like bro, this nigga too gangster to be gay. But then when I saw his boss man deal, I'm like, okay, that works the most gangsta.
Speaker 4:His niggas be gay no, I'm not.
Speaker 1:No, big plug x gay.
Speaker 3:All y'all niggas gay real talk it ain't no such thing as being straight if that nigga gay.
Speaker 4:So if he gay, you gay, everybody gay, we all might have to look into some penises. I'm not gonna look into shit, but I'm just saying don't look into studying homosexuality.
Speaker 1:I'm not looking into any of that, I'm just confused. I'm just like what's going on here? That was, that's all it was. I'm not trying to wake it up on, bro, I'm just like what's going on here? That's all it was. I'm not trying to wake it up on, bro, that shit was wild you didn't see that.
Speaker 4:I saw it, he was thick. I like when the gay boys be having the shape ups and then they be doing the concealer around the shape up line Be looking crispy as shit. That was so unnecessary.
Speaker 1:I love it, though it's women who's putting their life on the line to look like you, bro.
Speaker 4:Like that's crazy, that's nuts, he's a BBL gay, I don't know. I'm not saying he got a BBL, but like.
Speaker 1:He BB queer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he BB queer he a BBQ Goodbye Like Saucy Santana. Saucy Santana is thick as fuck.
Speaker 10:Oh man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:All right, let's finish up with this streamer university and we can get up out of here. So, kai Sinat, when y'all are watching this, it's going to be one day after streamer university starts. So he's basically kind of got a campus and everything essentially for a bunch of streamers to come out.
Speaker 4:What shut down college did Kai rent out? He probably got an old hbcu. It was. You know that school that just shut down that all the football players were going to and then, while they were in class, they were like um, your transcripts don't count, get out.
Speaker 1:It was probably that school so apparently he's like getting a campus and all that together so that he can do this. He's probably just getting a school that's in between session because it's going to be in the fall and they still be students on campus regardless.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying you can get a space where they all can be pushed out a particular way, because most of them won't be in the dorms, not between the second, you know, when the end of spring semester starts excuse me, ends and then summer semester starts. There's like a two-week window between there. That's probably what they're talking about. Right there, he's probably got a place for that little amount of time. So it was petitioned as, or it was pitched as, this we're going to help streamers build their content, build their fan bases, and I guess a lot of people assumed it was going to be a lot of unknown creators or not, unknown, but like not all the creators who have followers in the millions already yeah, so when hundreds and hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 1:I guess it was 120 people selected. I think it was like 50 of them or so. Like 54 of them were well-known creators and I think 78 of them were I might have been off with just my number, but the rest of them were unknown, pretty much unknown, or niche creators. Rest of them were unknown, pretty much unknown, our niche creators. So I did like I put everybody's name into gronk to kind of get with the twitter ai to kind of find any connections.
Speaker 4:Most of the ones that was found, like it was like chicklet and his girl, of course, because they're well, why, like why, is chicklet and melania gonna be at streamer university when between the two of them they have like millions of followers? And then melania was on impact on bet on a whole reality show they got. She was boring as shit on it, but she was on it deshawn.
Speaker 1:Frost is on there, so I don't know if you familiar with him, deshawn or deshae, deshae, oh, deshae, oh that was he?
Speaker 4:he made it. Yeah, he's on there too. Oh him and his brother make it brooklyn frost, that's a woman yeah yeah, they were his sister.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they were. They're both on there. They was on the list that I saw. That made it on there okay, I thought the shade didn't make it.
Speaker 1:No, I thought there was a big list that had them on there. So the reason why I'm gonna tell y'all a secret, the reason why you're going to want to have more content creators that are well known so you don't have to pay for marketing, because they can just market to their fan bases and that'll bring people to come into it. Second, people who aren't experienced in this, who don't understand the game, will switch up on you quick. They don't understand the difference between what's content and what's being for real. Give you a perfect example on my old show I was, I was doing we were having a discussion about something the dude really cared about. I, I didn't really care about it, I just had good talking points to go against it. So I'm going at him, we're going back and forth, we finished the show and I'm out of character anymore. I'm like, hey, you did a really good job.
Speaker 1:This nigga was still mad, camera's off, and I'm like what are you still mad for? It's over with. He was like nah, bro, no, that was crazy. And I was like, no, this is content. It's not crazy, it's content. So what you got to understand is that you can't trust that these people are going to come with good faith. You saw what happened last time when they did the kaisenot. Uh, wasn't it kevin hart and druski? And the little boy got mad.
Speaker 4:His mama and stuff was making videos about it because druski called the little boy fat and that little boy was in it, he he was in the content world and he was fat.
Speaker 1:It was true, but it just goes to show like it's too much of a liability. And also, if you're going up on those shows, the people who are not well-known they have the biggest risk in the whole situation because they don't have a fan base, so that means they're going to be content.
Speaker 1:So either your, emotions are going to be pushed to the limit your character is going to be pushed to the limit or they're going to clown you and you're going to be used as the exploitative fodder for the stream, and it's like you don't want to get a whole bunch of people around that, because that's how you get fights to happen. You get people who don't have it cool. You realize these folks was in 100 classes when they was in there. They teachers had two people in there, so to keep them down.
Speaker 1:They had to take medicine breaks in between, so you learn much about people that you didn't do during your little application process.
Speaker 4:You're a dick. How am I a dick? You know? You just made fun of kids with learning disabilities.
Speaker 1:I did not make fun of them.
Speaker 4:I am speaking.
Speaker 1:You're making fun of them, though I am speaking to dangerous people and what they somewhat may have in common with kids with learning disabilities.
Speaker 4:So was there anybody that you expected to be on that list that you didn't see on that?
Speaker 1:list. I mean nobody, that I expected, but I did see it was somebody who was upset they weren't on the list, so we've talked about her before on the show.
Speaker 4:We have People got mad at us too list.
Speaker 1:So we've talked about her before. On the show we have people got mad at us too. What people got mad at us? There were some folks in the comments saying we too old to be talking about the young kids it was a list of people no, when we talked about her, when I'm talking about, we compared her and, uh, tiffany haddish.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we had put them both under the uh yeah, but that's because she was on the double xl, like or or whatever that that like next entertainers. She was on some list. That's because she was on the XXL or whatever that next entertainers.
Speaker 1:She was on some list. That's not why we talked about it. We talked about it because she did something stupid and we put her on the crazy bitch of the week list or something. Yeah, but she's living up to what we said. Everything that we discussed and outlined in that video is kind of coming to fruition.
Speaker 4:Her and Kai have not been on on good I guess the best of terms over the past few uh months, and she wasn't invited to the streamer academy she found out that she wasn't invited and then she went on stream literally like crying tears and I felt so bad because, like, all of her peers are gonna be there and she's not like everyone that she has been doing this thing with there's gonna be there and she she can't, because the main dude that is is the man don't fuck with you and that sucks well.
Speaker 1:The rumor is his girlfriend. Don't fuck with her and that's why she's not invited around. Because there's a bunch of women that was invited to streaming university. Very limited white males shout out to you kai making, you know, making a stance there. But uh, yeah, I think it's also that has to do with that, because if you look at the clips beforehand they were, they would do some kind of I won't say suspect.
Speaker 4:But they would do stuff together. But then kai came on. She was because, when she was crying, she was like I have no idea why, like I don't know what happened. Like we were cool and then we were just not. And he came on and he was like, um, first of all, I don't watch these streams, I'm just, uh, always on tiktok, so I'd be seeing this shit. And he was like, uh, on this specific date, um, we were in front of a bunch of people and you was doing way too much and like that's why I think that's what we talked about.
Speaker 1:I think that was what we had talked about.
Speaker 4:Yeah she was like yelling in his face. She like flipped him or something like that, picked him up.
Speaker 1:It was a lot yeah, and that's what we were saying. Like, unfortunately you're a girl like, when you do that kind of stuff, people are going to look at you different and crazy and it's not going to feel, uh, something like they want to continue to mess with you. Like this is the girl that was cool your first two, your first two semesters of college.
Speaker 4:After that, you don't really want to hang out with her, no more the from what I know of her brand and her streaming personality like she's always been super like aggressive. Like this is the character that she puts on for her stream. So when you invite her to stuff, like you know, you know this is what you're gonna get. You're gonna get like aggressive, you're gonna get her biting people, you're gonna get her trying to like pick you up like you're gonna get all of that.
Speaker 1:So and so she also got into with another streamer called soul luminati and he basically kind of went at her and told her like yo, you're a plank, he really went at it. Well, the first.
Speaker 4:The first video was him saying that niggas don't want you around because you emasculate men. She came back and was like I don't even know who this dude was. I think she said something about his family.
Speaker 1:I'm not 100 percent sure. It was like an Asian girl and another girl, yeah.
Speaker 4:And then he came back and was like oh, now I'm gonna destroy you.
Speaker 5:and now we're here I does my research and all she does is emasculate niggas. Oh, boy.
Speaker 3:I emasculate men. How do I emasculate men? All you see in the comments is zoe needs to be around girls more because the guys don't treat her right. Girl Zo needs to go around girls more. Zo needs to be around girls more. Zo needs to stay away from men. But I emasculate them because I bite more. I emasculate them because I bite.
Speaker 4:Guess what Salabadadi Did. They all tell you that they like that shit. I don't think they did.
Speaker 3:You might like it too and you're doing all this because maybe you want to get big he might.
Speaker 1:She was calling him gay too. That wasn't on that clip, but there was another clip where davis, she was calling them, all them niggas gay oh no yeah, she was going in and all them niggas that.
Speaker 1:Just type in zoe. She's, like I said, man like women, like her, you always have to kind of keep an eye out. You always want to keep at her arm's length too, because she does get off on being the tough person in the room. Like she's the tough person. Yeah, she's the one who wants to get rough with you, want to shake you all up, try and then get mad. When you do it back to her, look appalled like oh, I'm a woman.
Speaker 4:I don't know if she gets mad when it gets done back to her because, like okay from the clips I've seen seen she's just be, she just be going back and forth with dudes and stuff, like she'll do something and then you'll respond to it and if she don't like it, now it's.
Speaker 1:What are you doing? What are you doing, weirdo?
Speaker 4:Why are you trying to do like what the dude said, like she does, try to bring niggas down no, I for a long time when I watched always like interacting with the, these guys and stuff like that I was like this is a little cringy. I'm kind of getting secondhand embarrassment most of the time when I watch her especially because she's in new york also that.
Speaker 4:But she's super young. So like if I were to be watching 22, 23 year old far on screen like I would probably be cringing from secondhand embarrassment from my own behavior. So like she's young, just give her, give her some space, give her some room to grow, and I do think that she needs to probably. Kai has said over and over and over again that he's trying to get out of doing content with women. Kai thinks that doing content with women, kai thinks that doing content with women is just going going to lead him into trouble, point blank period, regardless of what's going on. He's just trying to not be around the ladies at all. There's, of course, women in streamer university, but like that's. That's a sentiment that he's had well it.
Speaker 1:It goes to what we kind of talked about last week with the women in comedy. It's a lot of the streamer girls. They are adjacent to sex and that's what they kind of bring. Yeah, he said no.
Speaker 4:OnlyFans girls. Not a single one.
Speaker 1:Well, he's lying, because there's OnlyFans girls on this On the streamer. You yeah, it's two girls, it's like Maya Buckets. Yeah, it's two girls, it's like maya buckets. She got a video of her giving some guy head and they said autumn rain was on there and I'm very familiar with her work.
Speaker 4:Very the first girl. Does she only have one video of her giving head, because that does not make you a porn star when I was the one video I've seen.
Speaker 1:I don't know she has more, but that was because when I, when I put them all in gronk gronk has said there was some adult content associated to this person's name.
Speaker 4:So then when I looked it up, I seen the video of her little knicker, so I wanted to ask you a question, because if you're Kai, do you let Gigi and her beef like stop you from putting people on the list?
Speaker 1:No, she got to understand what the game is.
Speaker 4:I think that would probably have to be the case. Like you got beef with her, so you want me to leave her out, even though she has, like, a certain following. She's part of the group, she, I, I think that's it's not the full reason. Like gg, probably, kai, probably don't fuck with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's probably more than that I can also understand why kai we are too old to be talking about this, though?
Speaker 4:no, we're not. I feel pathetic right now.
Speaker 1:We're giving y'all, we're giving y'all the sauce. Well, the thing about it is because, like I look at people like you know, the dude who just got his chain snatched, jack doherty and all them guys, and how they operate on his stream, neat, and I've seen neo do this before, neon do this before, where they'll have it, where it's just like, oh, it's kind of like at the uh, at the party, and it was like I understand where it'd be real life. You don't want that to get there. You don't want it to get to that point because these folks don't think they crash outs and they they nuts up. Yeah, everybody think that they. What kai can do for him, what kai can do for them is what he did for ray, and I don't think that's gonna be the truth. So we'll see how this streaming university turns out. I hope it's. It's uh, very highly produced. That's the one thing I want to see. I want a high produced.
Speaker 4:I mean that little teaser was very highly produced it was cool.
Speaker 1:It was cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, um Ty Lio is a terrible actor, but that's not what you do for real. So you good, but that was.
Speaker 1:That was like oh, he really taking uh Reggie underneath his wing. I definitely see that. I enjoy Reggie, reggie's funny, all of the little clips, but every nigga been around a nigga, that's a Reggie though. Yeah. Reggie, the cool nigga who you be around, who smoke and just stay out the way.
Speaker 4:And he just be saying but he got funny shit to say all the time he just be saying shit and you're like how did you come up with that? Why are you?
Speaker 1:saying that that's like completely unhinged my favorite type of people. All right, well, we would definitely check out streamer you. But uh, we thank y'all for being with talk fnf tv. We do greatly appreciate that. Like I said, we're gonna wrap it up early because I got an early flight.
Speaker 4:Little flyer mile I'm gonna take a little nap before I get a hop on this flight for real.
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