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Tory Lanez EXPOSES MEG's LIES, India Love Wins STREAMER UNIVERSITY, & Druski Does WHITEFACE
When we glorify those who harm our communities, what message are we sending to future generations? This question lies at the heart of our newest episode as we dissect the peculiar phenomenon of excuse-making in Black culture.
The Tory Lanez saga continues with his team creating elaborate conspiracy websites to discredit Megan Thee Stallion's testimony, despite medical evidence confirming bullet fragments were removed from her feet. We break down the logical fallacies in these theories and examine why people desperately cling to narratives that protect their idols at the expense of potential victims. This pattern repeats with figures like Larry Hoover, whose recent federal pardon has been mischaracterized by celebrities like Chance the Rapper as a complete release, ignoring that Hoover remains imprisoned on state murder charges. When did we start elevating those who brought drugs and violence into our neighborhoods as heroes?
The conversation shifts to brighter territories with Kai Cenat's Streamer University, which showcased the evolving landscape of digital entertainment while revealing persistent gender dynamics in content creation. We analyze the romantic drama that unfolded on-stream and what it tells us about modern relationships in the public eye. Meanwhile, Druski's "White Boy in the Hood" skit sparks a discussion about false equivalencies between whiteface and historically oppressive blackface performances.
Perhaps most compelling is our examination of Deante Kyle's powerful message about accountability and intersectionality among Black men. His analogy comparing Black men's vigilance around white people to women's necessary caution around men provides a framework for understanding privilege and protection that too many of us resist acknowledging.
We close with urgent concerns about Trump's deceptively named "beautiful bill" that threatens judicial oversight, allows unregulated AI development, and cuts critical benefits for vulnerable families. These policy changes could have devastating consequences for marginalized communities yet remain underreported in mainstream coverage.
Listen now and join a conversation that refuses to settle for comfortable narratives. Follow us on all social platforms @talkfnftv and share your thoughts—we're building this community together.
she had conversations with people who were trying to say that this was racist and that this wasn't like if it was the other way around it. Can y'all stop defending these, please, like it is not the same in any capacity there is no like historic, racial, like stuff with white face.
Speaker 2:There was a. There was a clip of her mom calling her and being like you were so good up there and you had long sleeves on and long pants, she probably hasn't seen that in forever and then everyone was in the comments was like hi, your mom was happy that you just had clothes on girl like that's wild.
Speaker 1:y'all have to understand the worshiping and the putting on the plateau of these kind of degenerate gentlemen is not like, is not the step in the right direction. There are real political prisoners folks who have been associated with the Black Panthers, even as a folk. This dude who was just arrested and got a sentence for protesting during the Black Lives Matter that's doing federal charges right now. These are people who we should be advocating for, not folks who are killing each other.
Speaker 2:Oh he's so great. You have like a good experience and a good relationship with somebody who's being accused of like atrocities or um abuse by another woman doesn't mean that like he's not capable of doing that. There are people who are their, their children and their neighbors are full-on serial and they're like I would have never known accountability part isn't coming from what your actions are.
Speaker 1:It comes from what we allow, because we can't have a real, true and safe environment if we don't defend our most vulnerable, like I get people want to say, like oh, the women, they're not. That I got to say earlier. Women don't have a level of respect in regards to, but at the same time, we have to ask what is there to respect? Again, I understand women can be dastardly. They can be, you know, well planned out schemers and scammers. But in the heat of the moment, I I don't believe that these women, especially these young girls, are going to follow through and execute drunk as hell. Yes, are going to follow through and execute on a plan to incriminate this man in real time. Your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives.
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Speaker 1:I think it's official that New York is going to be the end of this show. Every time you go.
Speaker 2:New York is going to be literally the top and pinnacle of this show. When we move to New York is when it's going to take off for real.
Speaker 1:No, it's just. Every time that you come back from New York, you just become a brand new person. You start acting different. You start not being able to. You know, do the show at our normal rate, like it's just, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I be pooped and I always go straight to work, but it was lit and this, this trip, was a different lit than most of the trips that I've taken. This was one of those trips that, like every single move you make was the correct one, every party was lit. We stayed out till 6 am. Every single day that I was there. I came back my voice is back now, but I came back hoarse, like it was a blast. Some people almost tore acls.
Speaker 1:My I was playing a basketball game.
Speaker 2:No, so it was a pasaasa versus freaknik party that my friend Malik threw. Shout out, malik and one of my. He's not my friend, but he's a friend of a friend and he's Jamaican. He be getting it off and he jumped off the stage into a split, didn't do that correctly, fucked up his knee almost.
Speaker 1:Blowing out your knee off the top rope, off the top rope split is insane at a party, yeah it was lit, my man gotta go back to work on monday like no, he couldn't go back to work.
Speaker 2:He's out for a week that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like you don't even get disability for that, like they just telling you.
Speaker 2:Like you don't know what this man.
Speaker 1:I give you discipline when you tell them like what happened and they like oh, I did a top rope split at the dance party. You've been going crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm sure that's not what he told the job. They're going to see that in the x-ray.
Speaker 1:They're going to be like brother, you came from at least 10 feet.
Speaker 2:Like there's no way.
Speaker 1:It was kind of a high stage, yeah, man jumped from the top rope, so I they're going to be able to see the evidence. What was you doing? What other reason are you stretched out legs jumping down Like? We need explanations here.
Speaker 2:Accidentally.
Speaker 1:No, there ain't no accident when you Slipped on a banana. That's not what you ain't.
Speaker 2:Fell down the stairs. You're not accommodating the distance I fell down the stairs into a split.
Speaker 1:The impact shows that there was a severe distance and I'm assuming he's of island descent. Yeah, so it tracks. They're gonna sit here like come on guy.
Speaker 2:We see what you got. We see what you brothers do on the internet Nothing discriminating because he's Jamaican, we know exactly what your brothers do.
Speaker 1:These injuries are familiar. We've seen this before.
Speaker 2:This is a pasa pasa injury. Yeah, this is a scene special right here. Oh no, too early. A pasa pasa injury. Yeah, this is a scene special right here. Oh no, oh, my bad, too early, yes, but yeah, it was. It was. It was good for the soul. I had a really good like girls night went to my my one of my best friend's apartment and we got ready together and then I slept over and then the next morning we watched twilight and then we went shopping and then we went to another party and it was a ha shopping. And then we went to another party and it was a Haitian weekend. We went to so many Haitian parties and this was actually my first time going to Haitian parties as an adult. All of my Haitian parties were with family.
Speaker 1:So what makes it a Haitian party?
Speaker 2:They're playing all Haitian music and it's all Haitian people, and there's Haitian food there as well, and it's in a. Haitian establishment, haitian music and it's all haitian people, and there's haitian food there as well, and it's in a haitian establishment.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'm just saying because sometimes you be like haitian macaroni and cheese and it just be like you cut up some vegetables and put in there, that's not, it's not, that's not it. Okay, it's the epis it's the cheeses, it's the condensed milk.
Speaker 2:Oh my bad don't disrespect the haitian mac and cheese. It doesn't taste like American mac and cheese. It's macaroni pie, I guess it's a casserole. Yeah, it's good, though you like it.
Speaker 1:You got to see all your family too, right? Yes, let's make it sound like a wholesome trip.
Speaker 2:It was Haitian Mother's Day, so I spent some time with my grandma. My friends came over to my dad's house and she cooked for us. That's my grandma's love language. She's through and through a Haitian woman, so she made us some tassel amazing. Okay, I'm still thinking about that right now, um.
Speaker 1:I never got tassel well, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't cook like my grandma, so you know, maybe when she comes you'll you'll get some recipes. Yeah, I need to get that recipe, but you know I'm always in the kitchen with her like I make it my mission to listen to what she says when it comes to the kitchen.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, I just want to taste all the Haitian meals I can it's just fried goat and like fried plantain, which you don't like, okay well, you know, we can skip the plantain fried goat yeah it's really good. I'm not a banana boy, so I mean those island bananas, sea bananas sea bananas, not sea bananas, and yeah.
Speaker 2:So I spent some time with my dad, my family, my uncle came from Canada, my uncle graduated from something and they all went to Pennsylvania, but that was the night of the pasta party, so I had to go be a delinquent instead of going with my family, because that's what I went for. I was like my dad told me when I got there. He was like, oh, we doing this on Saturday, and I was like we are not. Y'all are doing that on Saturday. I'm gonna be shaking my ass. Oh, my god, which. I was with my friends and I was looking good. It was. It was healing to my heart. It was a really good time.
Speaker 1:We're going to discuss more of that because there's some other gentlemen who had some similar situations. Their girl's going off acting wild in the club. So some guys that we're going to have to discuss later on in the show.
Speaker 2:I wasn't acting wild in the club.
Speaker 1:Hopefully.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm going actor while in the club.
Speaker 1:Hopefully, I mean, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get some screenshots coming soon. Like this was your girl. Definitely not acting, acting while acting different.
Speaker 2:They're going to say All right, let's get into the music.
Speaker 1:Do you recognize her?
Speaker 2:All right, let's get into the music. Do you recognize her?
Speaker 1:All right, we got to do something.
Speaker 2:Jeez, but that just ruined the mood. I almost closed my eyes. When I heard this in the car, I was like ooh.
Speaker 3:Who is this?
Speaker 2:This is Duran Jones and the Indications, and Aaron Frazier.
Speaker 1:Duran, Duran.
Speaker 2:Not Duran Duran, Duran Jones. Duran Jones, I'm going to look like Yo, I cannot with you at all hey man, they not copywriting us.
Speaker 1:Damn we going to the top fair. We gotta protect our IP.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna let it play a little longer. That's why I grabbed my drink. Alright, you are now listening to Talk FNF TV. I'm your host absurd rhetoric and I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss fair. All right, man, we.
Speaker 1:I'm getting tired of talking about this but, it seems like every other two or three weeks there's a whole new story, whole new lane and element. We have to address this. But I just want you know you Tory fans have gone full stupid with this, so I don't know if you've seen this on the internet. It's been.
Speaker 2:I've seen a couple things and I just dismissed it because I didn't think that anybody was taking this seriously. I just thought we people were just going over old things. But I guess people are actually taking these things seriously.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I definitely took a look at, 36 hours later, dot com, which was the Tory Lanez website that outlined their theory on who was telling the truth, what was being said, what inconsistencies they could you know, spotlight. That's essentially what this was. It was an entire website dedicated to calling Meg a liar, Like essentially.
Speaker 2:That's what his Liz Zoller shirt did like in the first place.
Speaker 1:Well, it didn't matter, because again we've discussed this on this show before. He did not go to jail for shooting Meg. He went to jail for discharging a firearm in public.
Speaker 4:That is why he went to jail discharging a firearm in public.
Speaker 1:that is why he went to jail and having possession of it and like again. That is why he is in prison. That is what everyone's testimony, no matter how different it may look like, that is why he is in jail, not because he assaulted meg in any way. That is not what he was on uh on trial for, and once people, that's something they'll never get rid of, and so, essentially, this website wants you to believe the story that kelsey is the one who shot megan and tori is some white knight that came and stopped these two women for fighting. So, like some of the videos they have they have like tons of videos from the night in question where they show Megan, you know, saying I stepped on glass trying to talk to the police, which she's already explained to us. The reason why she did that was because she was in fear of her life and didn't want the police to make the situation worse than what it already was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was just nervous around the police which black people usually are.
Speaker 1:And then they also tried to go into this statement of it not even being a bullet in her foot at all, or not even a bullet in her foot, but bullet fragments in her foot, even though there was a doctor that was under oath, said, hey, I pull bullet fragments out of this girl.
Speaker 2:So again, we're not saying that fragments and glass look different probably a lot.
Speaker 1:They're very different. And also, if I'm pulling these fragments out and saying that these are bullets, it doesn't mean the bullet went into her foot. It just means her foot was near where the bullet hit and it ricocheted. Uh, spratno, spratno stratno, stratno yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a weird word. That is a weird word. Stratno, yeah, so that's easily what that could have been. But they're just so obsessed with trying to make her into this villain, like they even have, like this timeline. That contradicts megan's claims where they go into. She says the reason why she spoke out was because to Tory was going online basically trying to have the internet spin the story in his direction. But they tried to show where she went out, said what happened, went to the police, did multiple videos, kind of addressing it, until he actually addressed on internet. What they're trying to be disingenuous with that is we all know the internet was pushing all of these narratives, were telling all of these stories about it, trying to make meg seem like she was shot because tory was defending himself from her, like that you don't remember that was a story, that was a big story.
Speaker 1:People like saying, oh was did he shoot her? Because he was defending himself from her oh, because she big and all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because she's bigger than him.
Speaker 1:So yeah, there was like a lot of these stories that were going out, so Megan came and cleared it up. Also, she did come out in defense of herself Like, yeah, it was like this nigga shot me she said that she was shot, but she never went and said Tori was shot to like a few videos later. Then they go into Sean Kelly's testimony.
Speaker 2:OK, then they go into Sean Kelly's testimony.
Speaker 1:Okay, that was the bystander right, the witness that was on the balcony. Yeah, Okay, I need y'all to understand something. Y'all are very obsessed about this man's testimony, and it's for a few reasons, because he said he saw the girls fighting.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And he says he saw a flash or maybe a gunshot coming from one of the girls' direction. He didn't say he seen anyone shooting. He or maybe a gunshot coming from one of the girls' direction? He didn't say he seen anyone shooting. He said he never seen a gun. And you know what else he also said. He said that he saw a shooting into the car. There were no evidence of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you said that they told him. They told the jury to disregard that right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they told the jury to disregard that. They also said in question to his story was when he called 9-1-1 the night in question, he did not say anything about a girl shooting anybody. He just talked about seeing a man yelling and shooting and all that. He never said that. And then they tried to play audio from the night where it's basically like all of this noise because you can hear the traffic and all the stuff where he was talking to the police officer. That's not very clear. Again, he did say something about the women uh, potentially fired but he also said shooting dropping in a car. So like it didn't make any sense to the story that he's saying.
Speaker 2:So, regardless of how you want to put it if they're asking the jury to disregard parts of his testimony, doesn't that make him like less proper? Well, he was supposed to be tori's defense.
Speaker 1:Oh, this was supposed to be tori's lead witness.
Speaker 2:Well, that was yeah, that's why the nigga is in jail.
Speaker 1:But the thing is, even though he said he saw a flash coming from the woman, he also said he saw multiple flashes coming from tori, and then he even put his hand up in court waving the gun, like he said tori was waving it so like which which tracks with what megan was saying when she said he said dance yeah so I and and all of this too, I want everybody to know like I wouldn't I'm not just reacting to this website.
Speaker 1:I went back and listened to kelsey's testimony when she talked to the police, and I went back and read megan's testimony when she was on the stand. So these women, pretty much story was almost a one-for-one like literally as I was reading megan's I could hear kelsey's and it was similar stories. So so you can go and say, oh, they planned this out, they mapped this out or whatever. Let's be real.
Speaker 2:My before you. My two questions, though, with all of this is why would both Megan and Tori not just come out and say it was Kelsey Like, and then what does Tori get from protecting Kelsey? So, taking, taking the fall for a woman that he was just messing around with and wasn't even his girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Well, the Tori shit is this under the guise of he's supposed to be some street nigga and he's basically not snitching, he's not cooperating with authorities, so that's why he's not telling on kelsey, kelsey uh, the first question that you had was what was it again?
Speaker 2:megan, megan oh, uh, say one more time why wouldn't megan just come out and say that it was kelsey that shot me? So this is especially when they've been at odds from then like they have not been cool see this.
Speaker 1:There's the reasons why I don't believe this idea that Kelsey shot her. And the reason why I don't believe is because, if you think about the night in question, so, like I said, the dude Sean Kelly went in his uh testimony that's his testimony, but his 9-1-1 call. He doesn't say anything about a woman shooting. When kelsey gets arrested, she says tori did it she text messages says tori did it again.
Speaker 1:I understand women can be dastardly. They can be, you know, well planned out schemers and scammers, but in the heat of the moment, I I don't believe that these women, especially these young girls, are going to follow through and execute, drunk as hell. Yes, are going to follow through and execute on a plan to incriminate this man in real time and succeed at it too, as blatantly successful, with all the drama that was going on between the two. Through there, she made a diss song talking about if I would have, if I had shot you, you would have been dead, like it's literally all of the stuff that she was going on and doing. And you want me to expect that these two women held this story down all this time and they beefing for fake like that.
Speaker 1:That doesn't make any sense to me. And then, yeah, this is what I think happened. Okay, I think they were fighting.
Speaker 2:I think her and kelsey were fighting no, they were, because they they found out that they was both messing with tori.
Speaker 1:Yeah but today they, in both of their testimonies they never meant to them physically fighting each other yeah, I think they were physically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they were physically fighting each other, because sean kelly says he did see two women fighting. I think they were physically fighting each other. Tori came out, tried to act like he was a big dog, shot the gun to get them to stop. I think the first flash he shot was whatever. The bullet hit to ricochet and probably caused a little spark or something, and that's whatever hit megan's foot and then he just continued to shoot or whatever, and that's what stopped them from fighting. The big dude grabbed kelsey off her, like sean kelly said, and I think megan's team was just like hey, we don't want to have this story of you being this rapper girl talking trash and you was getting beat up by this little girl. And so we're just gonna say this nigga just shot at you, even though he did shoot, but he was just shooting to get y'all to stop fighting well, if I was kelsey in the in the diss track too, why wouldn't I say that I whooped your ass that night?
Speaker 2:yeah, cause she did say some crazy stuff like me saying that, like I beat your ass that night, wouldn't be as crazy as what she actually said.
Speaker 1:I think that would just be incriminating at that point, cause you know she didn't have immunity yet, so I don't think you would say I beat your ass that night.
Speaker 2:I mean, she did say if I shot you. She would say if I shot you would have been dead.
Speaker 1:But that's different. If, if she was saying, if we would have fought, you would have been woke up, maybe that because she could have bought that.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll give you that but she didn't.
Speaker 1:You know you can't just admit what you said. You're trying to call it out. She didn't get that immunity yet. I'd be in jail, and I think that's part of the reason why she wanted immunity, because she was assaulting megan. So to me, that's what I think happened. I think the nigga did shoot her. I think he's shot trying to be mr fly guy. He was fucked up and drunk too, and that's where we get this situation that happens from. And this is just again. They haven't even put nothing in court, like that's the crazy thing he hasn't gotten an appeal or nothing.
Speaker 1:Not, since I think he did one in April. But for any of this evidence, nothing of this is going to court, nothing of this is being questioned. All this is is just a smear campaign to big him up on the Internet Like that's all this is, and that's not going to help. I mean, it's not going to do anything in regards to anything else, like the the mere fact of he wasn't in prison, he's not been convicted for shooting megan, and that's the story that y'all keep trying to spin around. Regardless of how many times you want to spin it, it's not what we're talking about here how much time does he have?
Speaker 1:left, I think he's been. It was 22 is when he got convicted. So oh, he got it. Was he got 10 years? So? Yeah he might get out early for good behavior, but whenever he get out he's going to canada. So straight there but he can still.
Speaker 2:That's what it's all about he can still release music and do whatever he's doing. In canada he released the music in jail it was funny too.
Speaker 1:They even had like text messages on here where they said, oh, look where they had edited text messages. Uh, because this is where she said Tori shot Meg and handled me, because that goes into what her statement was, that Tori was beating her up In her statement. That's what she said, tori, that's where she got all her markers from, because Tori beat her up. But, like I said, her story and Meg's story does. There's a lot of inconsistencies that don't really make sense to it.
Speaker 2:But I feel like my story makes the best sense. Of course you do, but you don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think it makes sense, but I just think that's such a you thing to say. I'm just saying this is like what else could it be? Because it doesn't make sense for him to just shoot at them for no reason. So if they're fighting, I can see him being stupid and trying to do a warning shot and it ended up hitting her, and then that's where we at here.
Speaker 1:Just don't shoot at nobody I mean it's safe, just don't be idiot and like there's other reasons why, too, it's like the way tori handled himself through the whole process. It just showed him as just being a doof, like the the music videos he was doing. Getting into it with august, I'll see like I. I've known the horse leg yeah I can. I've known he's been a dumb ass, since his travis scott beef he had but like for you to just keep it in full effect. It is completely insane.
Speaker 2:I don't get it but uh was anything else you want to touch on with it no, he's a full idiot and he's gonna stay in jail. And did you want to get into some more idiots that think people are gonna get out of jail that aren't getting out of jail at all? Yeah, we definitely can because why do y'all think larry hoover is getting out?
Speaker 1:it's okay. So if y'all haven't heard, trump has announced the pardon of larry hoover. So if y'all not familiar with larry hoover, he is the leader and founder of the notorious gangster disciples. He's pretty much one of their most notable members, if he's not the leader. I don't think he may not be the leader, I think he just may be a notable member, and he's been in jail for pretty much like since the 70s. Uh, he was originally arrested for the murder of a drug dealer by name pookie. He killed him and he was sentenced to like 150 to 200 years in state prison, in the midst of his state prison.
Speaker 1:Again, that was probably overkill, for for the murder, one murder and probably, and then what was a lot of people believe was due to the violence that was going on in the community because of those gangs, he was the received, the brunt of, maybe like a lot of an example of essentially so. While he was in prison, he allegedly then organized an entire drug enterprise and operation that was raking in a lot of money.
Speaker 1:As you do as a gangster in prison and then he was end up found for doing that and that's when he received federal charges and that is what Trump released him on. So I do want to play, you know, because a lot of Chicago people, they they see this and they're excited.
Speaker 2:So he's still got them 200 years though.
Speaker 1:Well, don't tell them, because they're going to be upset, because they don't know that. Listen to what your boy said. This is what your man, chance the Rapper, had to say.
Speaker 2:How long have I been shitting on Chance the Rapper on here? I said the one good thing he did is acid rap. And then since then it's just been. It's your man, his acid rap, and then, since then, it's just been, and then he went to the carnival and did too much grabbing ass and being disrespectful. You just enjoy it, that's all. You just exist with it. You don't have nothing before I let y'all politicize this or memefy this.
Speaker 4:I just gotta say I am glad that Larry Hoover is home and I gotta remind y'all that he was a political prisoner that was set up by the federal government, that he created the what was it? Chicago Votes. He did so many things to like, to really like mobilize our people, and he was really targeted for that shit. And so, before niggas get to conan or doing whatever they're gonna do with this information, I just want to say I'm so glad that he's home and I'm god bless his family and um, and yeah, before I let y'all politicize this, like I said, he's wrong, so the nigga isn't home.
Speaker 1:The nigga is going to finish out his 200 years in state prison, where trump has no effect on, because the president can only affect federal cases. This, which also got to understand. We have to stop putting these type of men on a pedestal, these type of individuals who, because this man, he called him a political prisoner. When he got in trouble with the federal government, he was already in prison for killing another black man again.
Speaker 1:So this operation that they try to act like oh, he said the, the votes or chicago votes or whatever that was shown to be a money money laundering operation. In the federal indictment that he had like when they went and did the case, that was shown that he was laundering money through those organizations. It was also shown that his girlfriend testified against him. His co-defendants testified against him. They had wires on the other visitors during his visitor meeting so they were able to catch the stuff he was saying. During his visitor meeting they were able to show an outline, a whole operation of which this man was uh controlling the gangs and also, uh, operating a drug cartel from said prison. This is not a good individual. He was not someone who went there and he was rehabilitated.
Speaker 1:And the fact that I see like clowns, like J1, talking about oh, do dirt necks free, dirt neck, y'all have to understand the worshiping and the putting on the plateau of these kind of degenerate gentlemen is not like. It's not the step in the right direction. There are real political prisoners, folks who have been associated with the black panthers. Even there's a folk, there's a dude, who was just arrested and got a sentence for protesting during the black lives matter, that's doing federal charges right now. These are people who we should be advocating for, not folks who are killing each other, folks who is maybe killing you know, folks who are oppressing them. How about? How about we look at that and focus on those individuals and not these individuals who only thought about themselves, whose operation was only about themselves, who did, uh, aesthetics that may look cool, the little turkey drives, or whatever they say for the community, only to then put more of that poison that was keeping the community down in the community that's always the case like that I feel like it's very gluttonous behavior too, like you don't.
Speaker 1:You don't want anything good for anybody else but yourself and they think because, oh, if the special one they find them and they protect that special one in that process or through their community, they're doing something special. But you're still creating the environment that makes somebody who's not that special have to live and survive to something that it may not be much at the end of the road for them, because they didn't. They didn't show that they were good in sports or they weren't good in school or whatever shit that you value at that particular time in your culture. They didn't show that value and now they just have to sit there and be desolate and and live a life of nothing because they didn't get those similar opportunities to try to at least make themselves better. But you put guns and weapons and a little bit of money in their pocket and think that, oh well, look I, I helped them out no, you didn't.
Speaker 1:You destroyed the community. That's all y'all niggas did, like larry hoover, what you did is what we have for dirt right now.
Speaker 2:That is why we have dirt yeah, that's why and niggas rap about it like you think. You big meech larry uva, like niggas, put that shit on a pedestal on a regular basis and it's very problematic because these are people who are destroying the communities that we are a part of and then get to live like these kings when they get out like big meech, getting out now and getting to be this celebrity and this individual like, like a public figure yeah like he was out there, like he was fucking Nelson Mandela or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a cultural phenom.
Speaker 1:It just makes me sick to see that, because when you call them out, clowns like Chance the Rapper call you a coon, because you have a standard on what you hold black leaders and excellence to and these gentlemen do not. They fall flat on it 10 times out of 10. Like when you just look into the motivations of their actions, the type of lifestyle they were living when they had their freedom. This wasn't individual.
Speaker 2:Like this wasn't Larry Hoover's, not Fred Hampton. I do White people not do the same thing with? Like crime families and mob bosses and stuff like that? Like they do glorify the same thing. There are shows about them and stuff like that. Do you think it's more problematic for us to do that because we have less examples of?
Speaker 1:like, yeah, I think, when the concentration of our wealth and the people who are high earners generally tend to be in the athletes and in sports I'm assuming athletes and music entertainment.
Speaker 1:So when you have that being the focus, or that's what we see the majority of who are able to operate at that high income level, then yeah, you get affected by that because those become your leaders. Like Malcolm X talked about it, he warned us about the Dick Gregory's and all these people who are entertainers who become leaders because of either their status or the capital that they're able to earn. And then, if you think about the people who are high earners that aren't in those organizations, they thrive on a status quo being the same. So we really don't have anyone with high earning potential to assist in to the real problems that's going on in the community. Like they were just announcing the tax benefits for the, for the you know the budget bill and everybody that's under 50,000 is getting more money back and the people who make less than 50,000 are now having to spend more money in their taxes. So we we have this, this real sick like culture that just breathes capitalism real quick, run that back real quick.
Speaker 2:So if you make more than 50, you're gonna get some money back, yeah okay, period, period, that's fucked up see period.
Speaker 1:It's nasty it's nasty.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't be the case. It shouldn't be. But no, but that's why I just it just gets.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to take it. It just gets frustrating because, as a black man and you try to hold each other to a standard, and then foolery and Tom, you know shit like that gets celebrated, it does.
Speaker 2:And like it's going to go into Foolery and Tom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tom foolery, like that just gets celebrated.
Speaker 2:I like it better the other way, foolery and. Tom Foolery and Tom.
Speaker 1:It just gets celebrated. It's horrible for our culture. And then you have these people just keep doing it and it's not enough positivity really being shown. But everybody want to say we want to see more positivity.
Speaker 2:All we see is foolery and Tom.
Speaker 1:Like just imagine, if you like, a young kid looking at and you don't really have much opportunities the poor father. It's just people who, which way? You're gonna go? You're gonna go and try to work a gig or you're gonna see how these hustlers live in, and it looks fast and fun like and, but it's short but why do y'all not think about how stressful that is?
Speaker 2:because, regardless of how old or young I was, I always thought about how stressful that is, because, regardless of how old or young I was, I always thought about how stressful crime would be because of, like the, the anxiety of getting caught or getting killed at any moment, all the time see, as a man you had, you're afflicted with this curse of when you see something like that on tv and movie thing.
Speaker 1:Oh well, that's why you was stupid like I'm not gonna do what you did and I'm gonna get over.
Speaker 2:I mean, I feel like all of us be like, well, I would do crime better, but I'm not gonna do it because, I feel like I would be the one who would be made the example of.
Speaker 1:I mean that's just what happens and the reason why, like like I said, I just get so upset about this. We, not too far in the county over from us county, or two over from us, there were three young boys who got killed trying to do a robbery they were knocking down that door.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they came down, knocked down the door kicking it down the homeowner was there and he, you know, had the means to defend himself and ended those boys lives through the door. And that's why, to me, all three of them, when because I know that county and that county isn't like there are poor people there of course there's poor people everywhere you go, but it's not the county where you would expect that to have to be an opportunity, something that you have to do to find opportunity in something. But I, I also know people what county was it?
Speaker 1:it was rockdale okay and I, but I've also known people who and where I was going on school with, who were involved in similar things to what larry hoover was doing and were doing the same kind of operations trying to create little enterprises and gangs and ended up going into someone's house, someone killed, getting killed and now you you're doing time for that and it's like that's where this stuff leads to.
Speaker 2:For people did. Did anybody you went to school with, like in high school or college or anything, go to jail for anything?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for something I just explained.
Speaker 3:Similar, just like how those boys did that robbery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but one of the persons that I knew survived and he ended up getting that time, and when that happens, you get the time for a murder. So, even though you didn't shoot to kill anybody because the homeowner did, you get that time for that murder because you were involved in that crime. You were an accomplice in that crime. Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like even I even I was in college, it was a dude that I knew who he was out there like robbing other plugs, so he would go and rob. That's dangerous. He would go and rob other people he was. It was. He would look for white boys. So he would try to find white boys that had a lot of it and less dangerous it ends up getting to a shootout.
Speaker 1:They robbed, they, you know, steal this old lady car and crash that and get arrested and like because you can't play with apd. Yeah, and I think some, I think the lady got hurt or assaults or something. This wasn't in atlanta, this was in southern georgia okay but it was like I said it just it's so many people who take these chances and it's risk because they want to live this lifestyle let me tell you about the this girl.
Speaker 2:I went to high school with her and apparently she was pimping young women with her boyfriend, who was like older I'm sure it was a kind of messed up situation with what they had going on too too. I'm not 100% sure, but I assumed, but it was like a 14 or 16-year-old girl, and she ended up going to jail for pimping the girl, an underage girl.
Speaker 1:So she was underage pimping another girl.
Speaker 2:No, at this point she was probably like 19.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, you said 16.
Speaker 2:No, the girl that went to jail for pimping a 16 year old, a 16 year old. Yeah, the 19 year old went to jail for pimping the 16. The man went to jail too. Ain't that crazy? No, that's insane. I was like, wow, and this was like, not even like, this was someone who was like adjacent to my friend group, like she would go out to like dinners with us sometimes, like that's crazy like I have pictures with this lady all right.
Speaker 1:So let's, let's get into a little bit of a lighter mood. Uh, we got some more stuff, that's gonna probably bring us down, but um streamer university seemed like it was a success yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:um, I I never watched the actual streams, but I was watching clips and I was going through reposts and things like that and it was very cute. It reminded me of college a little bit. It was a little like hectic, like people throwing flour and setting off fireworks and damaging property. I was like y'all are doing a lot.
Speaker 1:Let's give Kyle a round of applause. That was big time. Yeah, that was amazing, kai guy. It was a big operation, so I definitely want to give him on that.
Speaker 2:Then he went to the american music awards like right after yeah young nigga don't sleep he on adderall going crazy right now his adderall plug is lit right now and scissors shouted out streamer university when she was on stage, which was cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people shouting it out, yeah he was having a lot of people come up to him wanting to work and stuff like that. So this would be real dope, but I wanted to get into some of the storylines that was going on. But before, though, I wanted to talk about Kai had spoke about this, actually while he was at StreamerU how he denied a lot of big platforms that wanted to host the Streamer Universe like Netflix Prime, you know, host the streaming universe like netflix prime all of that stuff were offering.
Speaker 2:he declined all of them and I think it was a smart move, because he wanted the streamers to get the streams, not just that the liability too, like the liability shifts.
Speaker 1:I know you don't want it to go over to them, but because what they would have to assume in their risk, a lot of that stuff may not have been able to happen. And so if you assume the risk, then you can have a lot of stuff, be more, you know, to the edge, and I think that's what he did with a lot of this, a lot of folks, they were pushing things to the edge. They was Like a girl got shot in the face with the.
Speaker 2:BB guns and stuff.
Speaker 4:It wasn't a BB gun. It was like a Nerf gun or whatever.
Speaker 1:She got shot in the face.
Speaker 2:It got called ugly. There was a lot of bullying going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of between the ladies, of course a lot of, because a lot of male energy, you know, checking each other and stuff like that a lot of claiming women yeah, so we let's get to that big story calling each other they balls.
Speaker 2:That's what the, the young kids are, are calling each other, that's better than my shit.
Speaker 1:That's better than that that's, that's my ball.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't like, I don't like that either it's better than my little shit I like little shit.
Speaker 1:See, that's what's wrong. That's my little shit, that's that's crazy more fun to say than ball.
Speaker 2:That's my ball, like I don't know like my ball and chain, yeah yeah, that makes sense. I guess that's where that comes from.
Speaker 1:So the one that basically took the whole world by storm was the love triangle between DDG Duke Dennis and India. Love, do you want to begin?
Speaker 2:I feel so messy talking about this shit. It's just for what we got to get into it. Like I know duke and india are like our age but it just seems like such young content. But let's, let's get into it. So I saw the pit, the clip of india like rubbing up on duke. There was a whole compilation of her just like sniffing him it was.
Speaker 1:So just to give y'all a hindsight of what it kind of was like, say it was a love triangle between these three where india into Duke and DDG was the entire time trying to basically win her affection over and try to show that she was the better dude. He was like Dirty Mac-ing on Dennis.
Speaker 2:And Dennis was doing his thing. He was flirting with other girls and being Dennis, yeah, but he was coming up to her and being like look he with girls over there.
Speaker 4:He look at Dennis over there like he was really hating like he was.
Speaker 1:It was really impeccable acting.
Speaker 2:I would say yeah because you don't think it was real right. That's his character. He does that yeah you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't think this is a, that was a real storyline, right no. I didn't think it was real either when I was like it was kind of obvious, but it was. It was well done to the point where it was entertaining yeah uh, one of the things too I just thought was so funny with this whole India Love Like I remember India Love when she was India Westbrook, when she was like really early out In Tumblr Coming out when she was like the cute young girl at 18, 19 or whatever, like I remember her when she was getting fingered by the game in the park, so to see the entire internet.
Speaker 1:She took Tumblr by storm and I watched um her show too on bt with her family, the westbrooks so, like I said, just to see that her taking the internet again by storm like this with the help of kai, it's just funny just to see, like the young little thought that was that's who she was when I was coming up, because she's a little bit younger than me, so she was like the young little thought getting passed around by the rappers, now getting, uh, pedestalized by all the young niggas. Now it is, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Pedestalized is that the word? I don't. I don't even know. They're putting her on a pedestal then it's just it's hilarious seeing that she's still. She's still banging like no, I mean she a1, I'm pretty sure the only fans numbers is consistent.
Speaker 1:They've been releasing all that, all her only clips her titties been all over the timeline.
Speaker 2:Have they.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen any of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, you missing out. You ain't engaged with the content.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:That's why you didn't get the good stuff, not the good stuff. She's a pretty girl. I'm not going to act like she's not a pretty girl. It's just to me she's just been so yesteryear like I feel like she's a professor.
Speaker 2:She was supposed to. Well, she was a professor at streamer university. There was a. There was a clip of her mom calling her and being like you were so good up there and you had long sleeves on and long pants. She probably hasn't seen that in forever. And then everyone was in the comments was like hi, your mom was happy that you just had clothes on girl.
Speaker 1:That's wild, that's insane for your mom to give Because you know they don't understand the streaming stuff, so they just think you being for real on the show.
Speaker 2:I mean her mom was on the show and stuff too. I'm sure she understands.
Speaker 1:I mean. But it's still different for the older group to kind of understand. Like even reality tv came out, they still wasn't understanding this was scripted or for real or not. Like even with this it's not scripted but it's like improv and that's how they kind of operate with it. And also I gotta tell cost now you did a good job, man, like you really looked out for your boy ddg. Y'all had a really good plan to execute this, because you know he's been allegations. He was paying india love and all the girls at streaming university yeah and um cooking with kaya.
Speaker 2:They both came out with statements talking about oh he's, he's so great, and I actually want women to stop doing that because they're. Just because you have like a good experience and a good relationship with somebody who's being accused of like atrocities or um abuse by another woman, doesn't mean that like he's not capable of doing that there are people who are their, their children and their neighbors are full-on serial killers and they're like I would have never known.
Speaker 2:I would have never known, so that doesn't make any sense. Please stop doing that. Like you spent one weekend with the nigga, four days, and now you're like I can't imagine him being a monster. Of course you can't. You don't know him.
Speaker 1:No, I mean it was a great PR move. Like Kai could have easily canceled DDG with everything that he was going to say no, we can't do this, your name is hot.
Speaker 2:There was at one point he was standing in front of the campus because they had the general public of the campus separated from Streamer University and he was standing there with DDG and everyone was in the crowd and Kai was like clap, if you want me to expel DDG. And they all were like whoa, like clapping, and shit. And I thought he was gonna kick him out no it.
Speaker 1:What I mean, though, is like it was a good move what they did, because the best way to kind of take your heat off you and not make you look like this aggressive individual who put your hands on women and all that is to make you look like the goof, deprecate, deprecating humor the entire time, make him look like he chasing after this girl and looking soft and weak, and that, in the long run, will pan out to you not being looking as aggressive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then, like you said, having all the women shout you out is definitely going to help you out with that all that listen as soon as that ring camera footage of him crashing out comes out ever, then all of that goes straight down the toilet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean at this time, what it's probably going to end up being her sparing him more than anything else. That's probably what it's going to come down to, because once that gets unleashed, there's gonna be nothing else he can say, because it's going to validate all her other claims she just seems like I just want my child and you can see your child once in a while, but just I just want my child to be alone. She probably wants supervised visits and all that that's what she filed for.
Speaker 1:It's probably just going to be part of the game they're going to accept with that. And don't put my child on your stream, I mean that's what she wants, but you brought up somebody else cooking with Kaya, so cooking with Kaya oh, so she in a little trouble yeah, she got. She got a lot of trouble acting up apparently she had a boyfriend.
Speaker 2:The whole time we've been, we've been but, looking at her shake her ass in the kitchen this not don't know.
Speaker 1:We've been living together, but this ain't no normal boyfriend either.
Speaker 2:He's a streamer too he's a streamer that doesn't really stream as much and he's not as serious about it, according to her and she wants him to take it more seriously.
Speaker 2:But she said that he just be sitting around for real. But in the at streamer university they had a party and she was. She was throwing ass and she was getting her butt slapped by a myriad of men and, um, I guess he saw that. Of course he saw that because niggas was probably tagging him in it and they broke up my boy was going through it, man they broke up.
Speaker 2:You use this platform, sir, and you get back into streaming and you get your numbers right and and move on, because you was never gonna keep that girl anyway. That's crazy, you what?
Speaker 1:all right, so here's a clip of her talking about it because I I did have.
Speaker 6:I'm not gonna sit here and cap. Of course I have feelings for him, but I feel like he really did the most about this situation and the way he's trying to slander my name. Like I'm a whore first of all. If I was, if I was one, that would be embarrassing for you. Like, why would you stay with a whore first of all if I was, if I was one, that would be embarrassing for you. Like why would you stay with a whore? Why would you cry for a whore when she says she wants you to go get established and that she doesn't want to be in a relationship?
Speaker 4:why would you literally cry, okay, like I've never seen a man cry like that, and and I'm not. Men can cry.
Speaker 6:But it just got to the point where it's like dang like every time I tell you anything like that, like you should, you should take, like that should be a good thing. I just want you to be established. That's all I want. Gambling is not well. I'm not even to talk about that. I'm not going to speak on his.
Speaker 1:So essentially it feels like they're not boyfriend, girlfriend to what the story she's trying to say. That's what it feels like she's lying Like because if that's not your boyfriend and you talk about, you want him to get somewhere before that's your boyfriend, then it shouldn't matter what you was doing or anything like that. But clearly she was claiming this nigga.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe they were living together. Hold on, I got his clip right here, y'all was still trying to fuck with all these other hoes.
Speaker 5:Y'all know you feel me, who I was with, type shit. Y'all know what's going on. Y'all know I stopped streaming, nigga. I didn't stop streaming before her, but nigga, I stopped streaming. You feel me y'all for the first time. No cap, I never fell in love with nobody before this is my first time ever in love.
Speaker 5:You know happens he hurt like that that call yeah, that's the longest I ever talked to a girl in my life, like I ain't a lot most long as I probably talked to a girl it's probably like a few weeks like no cap, and that's the only girl I ever cared for. Like I never cared about none of these, I just, you know, just having my way with you. So was she popular when you first met?
Speaker 5:her about none of these bitches I just you know, just having my way with these girls, so was she popular? When you first met her? She had like. She had like like 50, 60k on instagram, yeah but that's like for for girls.
Speaker 4:Damn, I miss some shit no, I'm just not getting started right now. I'm just not getting started right now, not even any now. You bro. I was not in love with that game.
Speaker 1:Come on, when I was like so this, this is what I just kind of, this is kind of what I just have to go after this man. What y'all young boys have to understand is these girls now y'all age girls and probably going to be for the foreseeable future, they don't know how to respect a man at all in this capacity in any way. When given the opportunity, this mean dead ass. When, given the opportunity, she is going to do what is in her best interest at any time. Like these girls are not going to hold back to make you feel better. And you got to kind of know that. Because she's being around guys that's way more popping than you, way more popular than you, and she wants that. It's not like she's somebody who is just being. You know, she ain't one of the girls getting to see from stefan diggs who just so happened to be in the camera. No, she's trying to be famous.
Speaker 2:She got a brand yeah, she, and it's bigger than yours and it's something she clearly cares about.
Speaker 1:if that's what she and her discussions with you, she's saying that's a stipulation for y'all to continue to grow Is that you have to get your shit popping and all that.
Speaker 2:And that's fair, and she's very young. I mean, that's true, that's very true. She's not just going to hunker down with your bum ass.
Speaker 1:But my thing is that's the thing the hunker bummer that she was doing it. If what you're saying is true, yeah saying is true, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you can't say so she was already making that steps of commitment and now, when the opportunity came to take advantage, she did. So that's what I'm saying. She's not probably the girl you want to be with, so the bet that's probably really. I know it hurts and it's embarrassing because the world feel like it's seeing this, but niggas really don't know who you are and you'll be able to bounce back from this and almost feel unscathed Like women don't get that kind of luxury. When it happens the other way around, everybody knows what they look like Like. Everybody still remember that one girl who had the crazy little hair wrap. Remember she had that. It's the meme where she was sitting down, like when I'm on a date with an ugly girl and it pans over to the dark-skinned girl and she got her hair wrapped up.
Speaker 2:Oh, kayla Nicole, yeah, over to the dark-skinned girl.
Speaker 1:She got her hair wrapped up. Oh, kayla, nicole, yeah, people don't. People know what she look like. No matter what them l's that women take, they gonna remember what y'all look like. As a nigga, you can bounce back from this, but now it's one nigga. I don't think can the the other guy who got broken up with too at uh, streamer university. Are you familiar with this?
Speaker 2:I think it's dabbo oh my god the dark-ned nigga. The only thing I saw was him just like being a nuisance and like throwing water on Brooklyn and like pulling her hoodie, so apparently him and Aya also.
Speaker 1:They broke up too. They were not really like. Their whole content was him feeling like he should be lucky to be with her. So this is what he said he he talks about them breaking up right here. She don't respect me. I don't know who she must be she must be she only twerked on girls. No, bro, because let's put the rules in reverse eyes. In the middle a bunch of niggas clustered up in the pile.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know your place at original because she was twerking on girls but yeah, she was out there dancing and stuff on people too and and didn't disrespectful. So they've been beefing on both of their respective streams, like she went and got one of her home girls and they pretty much had. They've been beefing on both of their respective streams, like she went and got one of her home girls and they pretty much had like some little boy shorts on and had a abdomens out for their little t-shirts just basically like um sharking I guess that's what they call it in the twitch world like sharking I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:I think that's like just dealing someone's uh, girlfriend or boyfriend away okay, maybe that's probably closer what to what it is yeah, what she was using for that. So, like I said, these, these young folks is is crazy, but again, I'm still. It's running down but he said what he said in regards to him not respecting like if you look at their streams and their content, that's what their uh relationship is like her feeling like I'm the girl that's too cute to be with you. Even though she, not, she ain't really hitting on all that.
Speaker 2:That's what I said Y'all be, y'all be blind, I'm just.
Speaker 1:I mean they just be color struck. But last thing I wanted to ask, like, what did you see from just this whole streaming? Who did you think it benefited the most? Was it like the male creators or the female creators?
Speaker 2:there were. So who had benefited the most was probably tota from brazil did you see him like?
Speaker 1:he's the only guy that wasn't well known that it actually worked out, yeah it worked out really well for him also.
Speaker 2:I think her name is kai uwu. She's the black girl who's like very nerdy, and then, um, the emily girl, the asian girl, that agent was with a lot.
Speaker 1:They were very cute I think she was already pretty popular was she?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I didn't know any of these people before, so now I know them, so I feel like it was very successful for them. Like those smaller streamers, um, of course, reggie did an amazing job. We are big fans of reggie. He's um hilarious. And then that preacher guy did a good job too. Actually, like he, he got a good amount of traction. Um, yeah, and that was. That was oh and the the news reporter girl yeah I thought she was really good.
Speaker 2:She was great like she did a good job, and that's the girl.
Speaker 1:I think that drake followed on instagram but she's not young um or was it, it might, it might have been another girl then, yeah well, I was because the reason I was thinking about it because I was seeing a lot of the girls being popping up, not even just the ones that I was familiar with. I've seen new girls. Like, literally, they had like a stitch of all the baddies that got enrolled into streamers university. So what I was noticing like it was really like a. It was like a macrocosm of what entertainment really is. It's like if you're a dude who got the cachet for whatever look or whatever you did, you're able to shine in those kind of environments. But if you're a guy who's coming in with no clout, you're not going to really hear you, unless you got something like Torta. You know, you, the Brazilian Ray.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but his roommate was Ray, so like he was going to get attention regardless, and that's what. I mean where he got fortunate with that attention regardless, and that's what I mean, where he was able to, he got fortunate with that, yeah, and that to put in that situation so like if you think but he was a really like, he was really popular on his own in brazil for sure, but I mean, what I'm saying is like to kind of it was a good combination of things for him and what I'm saying is like that is like the macrocosm of american entertainment where if you don't have it, especially as a guy, it's going to be hard for you to break through.
Speaker 4:But the women.
Speaker 1:If you're attractive, people are going to look at you, the guys that have clout are going to want to be around you and then that's going to push up your algorithm, because I've seen a lot of folks who was talking about how they should jump like 200 percent in regards like followers, subscribers, watch time, view time, all that Like everybody's Twitch was doing numbers from it, but it's just interesting seeing how these kind of like environments uh, better suit women in there. You know, in the short run, but maybe sometime in the long term it might be better for a lot of those guys because they got to build relationships and opportunities and get that equity in the community yeah it's gonna be dope to see yeah, I.
Speaker 2:I just love this whole like streaming era. I love that all these people are making money independently, they're getting brand deals. I love that the internet is just letting people make businesses out of themselves, and people just get to walk around with a backpack a dude with a backpack, a techie-ass backpack and walk around and just live life while other kids watch them. I think the kids watching them are a little problematic. I'm not even going to talk about that part, though, but the people who are making money from just like living life love that for y'all.
Speaker 1:Well, we can wrap this center here. But Gilbert Reynos actually spoke about that and he kind of actually woke it up on a lot of the guys who were doing kind of the Ka-Sinai thing. It isn't that they're getting a lot of money. They get a lot of upfront money from these companies that they operate with Because, like Kai, he has his own not his own, but he's part of you know an agency.
Speaker 1:And that's what really gets a lot of these people lit, especially a lot of these guys that we're figuring out that Platt Boy Max is DDG. They get involved with these agencies early on. These agencies push them and then they're able to turn that into something else. But a lot of times too, they'll get a large sum like so amp could be working with a group of team who's like hey, we'll collect all the money from you guys, but we'll give you this amount of money up front and then we may potentially fund your projects and stuff like that but, we're going to get all the revenue, the money, the back channel numbers and all that and you just be in the face of it.
Speaker 1:It's just, I mean it's the new entertainment. I mean that's all it is. We're just doing on the face of it, it's just, I mean it's the new entertainment.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's all it is, we just do it on the internet. These guys are probably we're going to see in a couple of years. We're like, oh, the streamers were getting screwed. And then they're going to probably like repurpose Aiden Ross until like, oh he, he was above everybody, he knew gonna come out because the bubble's gonna burst on it. It's just gonna be interesting to see where everybody lands. All right, um, we got to get into somebody who wasn't at streamer university, druski. So druski might have put out one of his like most amazing skits to date and I think I feel like I say that every few often now, like very, very often now when he drops a new skit. But this white boy in the hood skit probably was like next level.
Speaker 2:It was hilarious. Like it was a little bit cringy to watch too, Like I was uncomfortable watching it, but it was still funny.
Speaker 1:No, it reminded me of Eddie Murphy, because he did a skit a long time ago where he had dressed up like a white man and he was like just doing things and realized like how easy his life was. Nobody was stopping him.
Speaker 1:Nobody was asking him questions, if easy his life was. Nobody was stopping him, nobody was asking him questions if he did have, like, asked for help. They were so easy. It was easily to help him and tell him which way to go. And it was funny just like seeing, especially because I know you know drewski's from atlanta. Uh, knowing that white boy that he's talking about. Yeah because we've all experienced it. But in the south it feels like it's just a different level because they really fall into that.
Speaker 1:Like when they feel like they're around the black people, they really fall into it. Like I remember working with this guy when I was out in South Georgia and he was telling me this story about how all he had was black friends. And then one time he went with his black friends around some other folks and he had said the N-word. I don't know if it was like calling his friend, like hey, what's up my nigga? Like, what's up with this nigga, type shit. He said that to the around his other black friends, other dudes, black friends, and they all jumped on him. He was like, and my homeboy didn't even help me. I was like, yeah, nigga, you said nigga in front. What you supposed to do? You about to look like a race traitor in front of all y'all? So, but they really they be when they own.
Speaker 1:When they think they black down here, they really think it and that's exactly what he like. Pulled from that character that he was developed. Everybody kept trying to say he was like the belly cushington or whatever his name. Is that new white boy who's a rapping out here in atlanta? You ain't seen a white boy who's been selling bricks of t-shirts for a hundred dollars damn you really out the loop. Yeah, I'm od out the loop.
Speaker 2:You're supposed to be internet obsessed like me yeah, but I'm tiktok is a different world than than he's on tiktok. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, he's not in my algorithm, algorithms, but yeah that's what everybody kept saying, who he was shooting at, and I mean you could say that I I'm not really into whatever his name is, belly Cushington or whatever you say. I'm saying the nigga name wrong. I'm not really into him, but I just thought Drewski Skit was hilarious, but it did rub some people the wrong way.
Speaker 2:It did. But you know what? I haven't come across those types of white people in the South being here yet at all.
Speaker 1:How many white people have you really hung?
Speaker 2:out with None, all. But how many white people have you really hung out with? None? Um, maybe like one, but the in new york, it'd be the, the, the hispanic people that fully think that like they could say nigga, like you think you black for real down here. It's a real problem down here.
Speaker 1:You'll see it every once in a while where they feel like they should be. You know an honorary negro. But they learn pretty quickly that you're a white boy, you white. But deal vaughn did get a little bit upset. He said he was gonna grab his paint afterwards he said it's on, I'm gonna grab my paint so I end up making a. I use gronk to uh make a blackface version of deal. Should I put it on the screen?
Speaker 2:yeah, go ahead. Okay, look at this, fucking look at this, this stupid look at it like this is what he did with his time it wasn't hard either I'm sure it wasn't. You just told gronk to do it, and then it spat it out like here you go.
Speaker 1:It was like I can't do black face, but I can put black face and red lipstick on them, so I said, do that. Then it's like, hey, man, you gotta, you gotta, work around the racism with these ai apps. Man, you can't just be on the nose with it.
Speaker 2:They're gonna get all all crazy I'm glad they don't just do blackface, though, like I mean, the picture that I just put up was black.
Speaker 1:This blackest face with red lipstick, and I want to say this too, because I had I actually had conversations with people who were trying to say that this was racist and that this wasn't like it was the other way around. Can y'all stop defending these pecker woods, please, like it is not the same in any capacity.
Speaker 2:There is no like historic, racial, like stuff with white face.
Speaker 1:There is nothing that was used to demean belittle. Also, during the time that blackface was happening, black people couldn't respond with white face or they die. They didn't even have the means to be able to do it at the same rate, Like they wasn't out here doing the black play with the white face and they wasn't trying to do all that. That stuff would have got them killed for the most part, they would die.
Speaker 2:It's not the same like it's like to me again.
Speaker 2:We discussed this with the black fatigue story and even in the comment section people was oh, I'm tired of your history and your boy, yada, yada, y'all can't just flip it to like if white people did this and if black people did this, because your history and your boy yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada yada.
Speaker 1:Was trying to highlight like it was a justification to why black people are less than like.
Speaker 2:We're going to show you through our acting why black people are less than to keep that in people's mind yeah, they weren't doing blackface and the the nigga was a lawyer or if he was, it was like everybody was stupid for accepting it yeah, like they were consistently making fun of us, like that was their art form and it wasn't to mean us even more and it wasn't like making fun of us, like that was their art form, and it wasn't even like it was to demean us even more.
Speaker 1:And it wasn't like making fun of, like just comedy. It was a part of a systemic system to keep people down.
Speaker 2:Like. That's why I just think it's very important it was dehumanizing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like them dressing up like the monkey or the animal that people do today, like that's what that was akin to. It wasn to. It wasn't like they got. They did that seeing that character as an equal person. Like it wasn't done in that manner. It wasn't like how nowadays people will like voice a character. My app, who used to be voiced by a white guy uh, the black girl off a big mouth was voiced by a white girl. Like it wasn't like that. That, to me, is not blackface, that's not indian face or anything like that. That's just a stereotype. You trying to use a stereotype with your voice when you put it on paint onto your face when you know the history of I don't care if we talking about when Jimmy Kimmel was being Carl Malone or uh, what was Whoopi Goldberg's uh boyfriend? Who did the black face?
Speaker 1:oh no, he was a pretty popular white guy, I don't know that did a lot of tv shows back then like there is a jaded disgusting history that's included with that, so you don't get to shake that off when you do your actions like. That's where everybody keeps trying to like we're. When I have a lot of conversation with people about this, especially black people, it's like they're trying to. Why can't we even out where? Why aren't we? Just looked at it like it's the same? And it's like because there's years of information of why we're not the same.
Speaker 2:There's so much context and when you try to ignore that, you allow for the negative oppression that's continue going on to the most vulnerable of us to continue to go on maybe if we back in the day had gotten our 40 acres and a mule, then we could kind of be a little bit equal and we could have these conversations as if we're on an equal playing field, because we would have evened out the playing field back then a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was some type of level of reciprocity. When time to have, you also need time as well. It wouldn't just be you give the money and now I can call you a nigger. No, you don't get to do it like that. It needs to be time for those things to be able to be built.
Speaker 2:You give me the money and then your great-grandchildren can call my great-grandchildren a nigger.
Speaker 1:After we build infrastructure and resources.
Speaker 2:Yes, after my great grandchild's home can be. What is it appraised as the same as it's worth?
Speaker 1:As his white counterpart.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you. I couldn't get my sentence out.
Speaker 1:All right, so let's get into the Grits and Eggs podcast. So are you familiar with, I believe his name is Deante Kyle.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So a lot of people have been reacting to his clip that was going on where he was discussing accountability and intersectionality amongst black men. So I do want to play a little bit of that clip and have us react to it.
Speaker 3:You may not harass women. You may know how to take rejection. The majority of men that most women deal with do not, and you are accountable for that as well, because I don't got time to figure out which white people are nice, which white people aren't racist or da-da-da-da-da. I have to go on the actions of the group. The group as a whole and the history of that group as a whole tells me that they are a danger to me and they are not to be trusted. Right, and if you can understand that as a black man, and your stance towards white people, then you should absolutely be able to understand women's stance towards you. It's not a war on you waged by women. Actually, the war get a little thicker when we start talking about it from the perspective of a woman and the greater society of racism and white supremacy being waged against black people and then the patriarchal society being waged against women. So they have to deal with two elements.
Speaker 3:One of those elements we don't have to think about and honestly, we're perpetuated, and it's perpetuated against us young to look at women as objects right you know to look at women only through the lens of a sexual desire and not as the human being that they are, and when you understand how to women will enrich your life amen amen you want, you want to turn it up a notch?
Speaker 3:yeah, get you a good woman and you get your good black woman in your corner. Amen, hey, man, you want to see your life turn up? Hey, and see, this is the thing. Though that's a priv, it's a privilege, bro, it's a privilege. You know, I'm saying we, we often disregard the power of our black women, um, the, the spiritual essence that they're gonna bring to things, the knowing, the seeing. You know, I'm saying also, to imagine it, imagine it, they have to be hyper vigilant because they have to be constantly scanning the room, making sure that they're in a safe situation. Absolutely, you know so um.
Speaker 1:Did you want to start on it? Or you can go ahead, okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, he got a lot of you know, because I agree with everything he said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got a lot of criticism for what he was saying. A lot of people, especially black men, didn't like the accountable line he's.
Speaker 2:They said that he was pandering.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was another word that was being used a long time and what I just what I think a lot of people don't want to understand and they don't want to add into it where the effects of that danger and how real it is, you know, for women and what they feel that as. Because I remember it was like a few a year ago there was a story that happened where it was a teacher. He was one teacher and he assaulted like 30 kids in the school and I was having a conversation with someone. I was saying it's really messed up that they're going to make rules in place now because of that teacher. That's going to harm the relationship that any teacher can have with their student, it's going to hinder it, it's going to put more obstacles in front of it, because one person affected 30 lives and even though it only took a small amount of people there's a small, a small amount of persons to affect a large amount of people you still are accountable for those people actions, in a way of. I now have to do a better job of creating a safer environment, because we fail when things relax, and the accountability part isn't coming from what your actions are, it comes from what we allow, because we can't have a real, true and safe environment if we don't defend our most vulnerable, like I get.
Speaker 1:People want to say like oh, the women? They're not there. Like I just said earlier, women don't have a level of respect in regards to, but at the same time, we have to ask what is there to respect if we're not defending that, if they don't know that their honor can't be defended in those types of situations. So that's why I said I agree with a lot of his talk points. One thing I would just I would disagree with is the point of validating their worth through the benefit that your life brings, because while marriage does bring a lot of benefits to men's life, and saying like, oh, you live longer, you know you have a partner to help you with things like that. That shouldn't be the focus on why we give humanity to somebody yeah, it shouldn't be, because they like black women shouldn't be able to give you shit and you still give them humanity.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just, I just truly feel like that level humanity is necessary because then we can then go into reality, because if she wants to go into it under a certain guise, your respect is your. Your protection isn't entitled to her. I've said that on numerous times your, your respect isn't entitled to me, just like my protection isn't entitled to you. So we don't have to exchange those two things, but you should be willingly given that opportunity to do so why do you think?
Speaker 2:I think it's funny that you say that your protection isn't entitled, but why not if we're the most vulnerable?
Speaker 1:well, because and a certain thing regarding protection also means submission like I can't protect you unless you give me the opportunities to tell you hey, you can't do x, y and z, so that I can protect you in a manner that.
Speaker 2:You also just said that what is there to respect? Oh no, I understand that, but so what is? I can't get mad at you. Nothing to respect, then? What is there to submit to?
Speaker 1:that's what I mean you can't ask for both. My point rings true to that. If you don't bring that, then you can't expect nothing back.
Speaker 2:But if, if I'm not entitled to it it's like a snake eating its tail, like where, where do we? Where does it end?
Speaker 1:you're right, because at some point you have to be the man that you claim to deserve. But if you're that man, you rise to that occasion because those are the principles that would create the identity that you're shaping. So that's what I mean, where, if you want to be that man, that comes with the idea of showing that you are above her, you are superior to which you don't have to need those actions from her to justify who you are. But if we're going to look at each other like equals, then that concession is to be made. So that's why I mean, with that conversation even goes back to what I was talking about, uh, with the child dad thing. The conversation wasn't about making the dad talk to the parent, it was about you as a mom. How much do you value the nature of a father being involved and what are you willing to discuss and sacrifice so that that can happen? Regardless of if it's to your detriment or not, it's just do you value it. So that is part of the concession. But as a man, you can't use a feminine action to justify why you're not not being the honorable man that you claim to be, because I think that's what a lot of cases with this like to me.
Speaker 1:I don't claim to be no stand-up. I'm a white knight nigga. I come through if you, if you have something for me, I got something that I can exchange for you. But I also don't expect women to respect me just because I'm a black man. I've always said on that. So that's why I mean where I accept what my outcome of how I operate. But if I'm an individual who brings that respect or brings that protection off the instinct, then I'm going to assume that you're going to give me the respect as well. And when I don't receive that respect, now we're at odds. So that's where you get to.
Speaker 1:I think the enemy that feminism creates amongst men is that you're. I'm probably going to say this in a later conversation, so I'm going to save it for that. But when I mean why the enemy? It creates the opportunity that has. It creates the enemy because it makes men have to be more accountable. Opportunity that has. It creates the enemy because it makes men have to be more accountable. It makes it that you have to step up and rise to the occasion, because now, as you're being a woman, if I give you the freedom of independence to to create your own life. Now I have to breathe a step above that for you to want to give me your, your, your life or your hand yeah you get what I'm saying yeah, because I can create my own life like you.
Speaker 1:Basically, I can't accept bad behavior like the the old days because, unlike grandma, I got a bank account. I can get a. Uh, I got a credit score. Yeah, I can get an apartment. Even if it's not the best, it's mine and it's better than being under your oppressive rule.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so that's why I have freedom.
Speaker 1:And freedom is better than anything so I mean, that's where we get this conversation of accountability coming out of this. And men just hate having to step up because we feel, such as black men. We feel like we have all of this pressure on us from the world and then we have to get it from our women. We feel like, oh, you're just adding on to that, but that's just the pressure of being the ideal man that y'all want women to respond to Like.
Speaker 1:If you say a woman is submissive, that means you feel like as a man, you should protect that woman If you feel like that's inherent to you. I don't feel like those things are inherent to people. I feel like those are things that you want to do or want to become. So if you feel like they're inherent, you should just do it Off the muscle and the woman shouldn't in no way dictate it. But I feel like if we're going to have feminism, then it has to be a one-to-one conversation with it. I just do. I say this is going to be a little like you said. It's going to be a Mr Misogyny I guess into mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as always, there was somebody that I dated back in the day that did not believe in intersectionality at all as a concept like and we had like a heated discussion about a whole black man, because of course I didn't I don't date white men, but a whole black man that didn't believe in intersectionality and he just was like everyone, um, like he, just he, he was like everyone.
Speaker 1:uh, experiences, uh he felt like life was in a vacuum yeah, like everyone experiences um.
Speaker 2:What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1:what bad things?
Speaker 2:or oppression or yes everyone experiences oppressions and it's not um, there's no like chart or like layers of how you can experience oppression, of how you can measure it, and that the whole concept just didn't make sense at all and I was like there's, there's no way you believe that?
Speaker 1:I mean people don't want to listen to the empirical data with it like I get, where I saw some people talking about how, like police violence and stuff towards men is higher than women. Of course, sentencing and stuff like that but they don't also add into the effect that when women do that, they also don't get the respect level that comes with being a physical threat no so.
Speaker 1:And then women's prisons are horrible too they get pushed around like some and a lot of people don't understand too, when they have those interactions with the police. Sometimes they may not get arrested like a man would, but they got assaulted, they got violated and that's how they got to make it home, but that's because they had to give up a part of their body for it. So I understand people will say things like oh, as men we can get beat up and killed by the police, but a woman could get beat up our word by the police and then get killed. And then sitting there we looking crazy.
Speaker 2:And then when it does happen, nobody cares. There's no media attention or anything like that. Like when it happens to a black woman, nobody's up in arms as much as when it happens to a black man or when it happens to a white person in general. We're not even talking about white people.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've seen just in my lifetime of a woman going to tell something that happened and people not believing her, to the points where the court silenced her, where she can't speak about it publicly ever she can get in trouble for that person. That's all that person got to, not slap on the wrist, no real trouble, uh, and that's all it happened. Nobody here even. It's not even like it happened anymore. And she still has to live with that and I have.
Speaker 1:I understand that because, again, when I go back to talking about the most vulnerable is like I can't expect a woman to look at the world like a man or to handle the world like a man does, even if we give you the opportunities to choose. I understand that trauma affects you differently. Like I say that as I say this statement a lot, and I know you hate when I say about the women being children thing, but I don't say that to belittle women. I say that to help men understand how you should view that, because that's the only scope that I think they would understand that in and once you understand that this person is more susceptible to violence than you are because of their physical, uh, stature, and you know things that come with that, when you understand that certain stimuli affect them differently.
Speaker 1:Like somebody, yelling at a dude may not affect him, the same way it may affect yelling at a woman I'm not immediately gonna cry her being in fear is going to do something to you that it may not do to her and more than likely it's going to be her detriment. Like she's literally, literally in fear that you can kill her at any point and that's just going to be the end. I don't have that with a woman, like when I'm around a woman. Go on a first date with a woman, I don't have a fear that she could kill me and do something to me. No, but a woman will have that fear regardless if it's never happened to her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a whole like. I sent my friends pictures of your whole profile and everything Like. There's whole things that we go through. You didn't do that yeah nobody I was talking about.
Speaker 1:You just showed up. Yeah, there was no defense. I didn't send my mom a picture of you like. This is the girl I'm with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I had my location on.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, like. So that's where it's just a different experience. And again, I understand we shouldn't harp on what people would feel like a small number, amount of people. But even if you want to look at the FBI numbers, you got to understand that's not every woman's account, that's not every woman going and telling what happened. So even if you look at those numbers, you may have to triple or quadruple those numbers for to be anywhere that's close to accurate so you can be living. Again. We know for almost a fact that we're living amongst tons of women who've had at least one or two sexual assault experiences in their life. So if that's a reality, even if it's just a small amount of men doing it, that's going to affect a woman in a way that she's not going to just be able to process you being a nice guy and assume you being a nice guy just because yeah and it's not.
Speaker 1:And one thing too, I want to wrap it up with people try to compare when white people use like the media and all this other stuff to say black men are violent or black people are violent. The reason there's a difference between when white men say it and when black women say it is, again I stated, white men are getting this from media. They're not getting it from a lived experience with black men. When black women say this is happening to me, this is coming from a lived experience with black men, or from people that they know or loved ones who had this lived experience with black men, and that that that holds a whole different level of credit than it does a white person. Who's talking about imagery from TV that was produced by white people that just happened to have a black person on it.
Speaker 2:When you're around black people, you can experience them, and black women are the first ones who can attest to what black men are doing to them, because we, the ones that are um dealing with you, niggas yep but hey, man, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1:Uh, grits and what is it? Grits and eggs podcast. Yeah, y'all boys, y'all boys doing a lot of good things. Man, that's what I kind of wanted my show to look like at first. Before you you said you wanted to get on. Remember how I said I was gonna do a solo, like that you could you could still do that eventually.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, that's wild, I could take a step back.
Speaker 1:See, we've been building up so much together. Now you just want to leave.
Speaker 2:I don't want to leave, but I told you I think you should do an episode on your own.
Speaker 1:Just me talking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like sports and man shit that I don't care about, that'll be on the Twitch and stuff once we start on the Twitch and the streaming once we do that. There's so much stuff I don't care about that. You care about so much, especially sports, that I feel like you could get your shit off for real and it would be highly entertaining, and I want people to know all your little sports-isms.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, once we start streaming she's only going to be in the room, probably for like 30, 40 minutes tops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not, she's like I'm done.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be out of here and then it's just going to be us.
Speaker 2:I'll do my own streams of like me getting ready and doing girly makeup things, like for the girls who want to see that. But I'm not going to be. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's just not me All right. So before we end up wrapping up the show, hold on. Yeah, before we end up wrapping up the show, I do want to just do some important conversations. We do have to talk about Trump's one big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 2:It's the beautifulest bill ever. What is this?
Speaker 1:bill. It's the budget bill that's been going past. It just got passed in this house, so now it has to go through the senate and I just want to warn some people about some of the the information that's in here. Again. Miss lady over here was happy her taxes is going to be lighter, uh, so she can get more money in her pocket but at what? Cost I take oh you'll take it, let's see, let's say at what cost. So here.
Speaker 1:Let's see the cost, though here's some things that a lot of great journalists have been pulling out of the budgets and been finding out, and for this to be a budget bill and to have all of this stuff in here, it just shows how sneaky and dastardly trump is.
Speaker 1:The reason why he put in the budget bill is because the budget only takes, I think, 50 of the vote to pass it and over 51 of the vote, and if you were to do it as a regular bill it would take 60 percent. So that's why he put it into this budget bill. So some of the things that's going on is basically like giving him freedom from the court. So what they're doing is they're going to remove the money from that's placed for federal judges to put bonds out so that they can do indictments on the federal government if they feel like they're doing something unconstitutional. So just recently, like right now, the trade world, the trade war that trump's trying to be have the federal courts have just stated that he can't unilaterally uh apply tariffs the way that he did and that the law that he was using uh did not allow for that. Now some of the tariffs get to remain, I think, like on steel and stuff, because that law was uh constitutional, but the other wide tariffs that he's putting, like on the penguin country was unconstitutional.
Speaker 1:What this is going to do is going to stop all that from happening and also take all of the prior federal uh statements that excuse me, federal court decisions that were made and make them essentially null and void. Because what happens is is when the federal government, uh, you go do a lawsuit, what they do to stop for favorless lawsuits you have to pay like a bomb. Well, understandably, you're not going to assume a federal judge is going to do a favorless lawsuit, so they put money aside for these lawsuits to be reviewed and take over. So, with him taking that money out now, it's going to be nearly impossible to get any court cases to the supreme court, which would make the only court. That would be the only court that trump would have to listen to. So, essentially, the muslim ban uh would be able to come back into effect all of his yeah, all of his um executive orders that were deemed unconstitutional, would be able to come into effect.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I don't want the money. So that's what I'm saying all of that would be able to go back to effect because literally you as a civilian would have to put in a case and then it would only be for your case and everybody else would still have to do it individually. It wouldn't apply to everybody like how a normal precedent would. So either you would have to do like your state would have to go apply for the case and you have to put money up and you have to go through all this so that that could work, or it depends on how your state works. You may have to go through all this so that that could work, or, it depends on how your state works, you may have to do it as an individual. So, like I said, it just makes more work for you as the victim and of whatever you know decision he makes and then also stops them from being able to be stopped from federal judges, so essentially makes them be able to do every once there, there has to be a way to stop this man.
Speaker 1:Well, if it goes through the senate, then no, because he's going to sign it unless they remove those provisions when it goes through the senate.
Speaker 2:Hopefully they get removed because there's no way that like they're just gonna let that go through.
Speaker 1:There are people in congress and in the senate who actually like read through the bills yeah, I mean, people know that, but it literally, like I said, doesn't have to go 60%. So if all the Republicans are DEI dick-eating individuals on Trump, then they're going to go right here and how much it's majority Republican right.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, the House and the Senate are most majority Republican. Also, there's some other things in here. He also put a 10-year moratorium on states being able to ban or regulate ai. So again, we talked about this a few weeks ago where elon musk has all of these turbines more than what he's supposed to. What that would then stop is states from being able to regulate what he's doing. Only regulations that they would be have are federal government regulations, and we know this clown's not going to hold up any of those. He wants to get rid of all federal regulations. So again, it's going to allow for them to go into black communities. Not give black people jobs, but give them pollution.
Speaker 2:Set up these giant turbines, yeah.
Speaker 1:The best job you're going to get, with Elon being black, is clean up the toilets. That's pretty sure. Most of them black people in the AI may have some people at the top or whatever sprinkle here and there, but most of them probably cleaning toilets. We being dead ass because elon has had multiple cases regarding racism at his companies. But, like I said, if I didn't even know that, the reason why I'm that's worried me the most because I'm pretty sure as long as you and I've been talking, I've talked about my fear of us not having proper legislation to protect the regular everyday person when the rise of AI comes, and they've already been predicting about entry level jobs and positions in groups being eradicated within the next five years.
Speaker 2:If we allow for Trump to do this unregulated, allow these men to do this unregulated, you can just see vast swarms of people either having to be underemployed or unemployed altogether and it's scary to think what our country is going to look like when that happens, when the disenfranchised are even more so, and then, um, he's gonna be in office for long enough for it to get bad and stay bad, like it's only what. The first like 200 days of him in office it hasn't even been that long. So we have three more years of this. If this does go through and a bunch of people lose their jobs to AI, then crime is gonna go up like people are gonna start, they're gonna be starving, they're gonna be hungry, and then shit is gonna get really bad and then it's gonna look like the purge out here, yeah, and then he's even said he's talked about doing a purge.
Speaker 1:Remember trump did say that too.
Speaker 1:He talked about a purge, uh, during the election. But I I think what just to with this we got to also think about, especially what I said earlier with with the court case, that also gives some grounds to be able to run the election. If he wants to again put an elective order, any president who didn't run two consecutive terms can run again. That gets Obama out, so Obama can't run against him, and then he can go run and do his election cycle again. And that's where another part is. So last part I do want.
Speaker 1:That can't be like that's in the constitution but if he, if he doesn't exact, because he wrote an executive order to get rid of, try to get rid of the 14th amendment, remember? And then the federal judges came and said no, that's unconstitutional. But if those bonds get taken away now, it doesn't matter, because it can't go up to the federal, it can't go to the Supreme Court. Last thing, too, I just want to add on here that was on there so they're also trying to change the dependent age on SNAP benefits from the age of 18 to seven. So what that means if you are a parent of an eight year old and up, you will no longer be able to apply for them to be a dependent for you on your SNAP benefits.
Speaker 2:Back to the factories they go.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's either that or you're going to actually have to now sign your kids up for food stamps. So your eight year old son is going to have to have his own food stamp card and you're going to have now. You're going to inconvenience poor people even more if you have to apply that now.
Speaker 2:What is the point of actually doing that? Because if the eight-year-old is then able to enroll for the SNAP benefits themselves and get the money, why not just give the money to the mom or the dad?
Speaker 1:The reason why it changes the accounting of it, because they, the way that they do it is by people in age groups, so we don't have an age group that's not accounted for. We can say we're saving money because we're no longer giving people this money based off of having kids x, y, z age, so that's where they're able to move the money around and do stuff like that, because that's what all this is for is to the tax cuts that everyone's getting it doesn't end up being the same amount of money given out okay.
Speaker 1:No, it wouldn't be the same amount, because they would just. You would just write people for less money. Now you just write because now there's left money in the budget. That's what nothing. This bill is doing is pulling money from snap. So it's pulling money from the agriculture budget, so that's less money for them to disseminate, and so they just give people less money on their stamps the poor whites are on the internet just crying about this, like taking away my snap benefits.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't think this was gonna happen of course it was gonna happen, because he hates trump, does not like poor people he thinks that poor people are poor because they're bad and stupid yeah that's literally what they told the entire time.
Speaker 1:Y'all just thought they were talking about black people and immigrants. So hate to break that to you. Fuck charlie kirk too. Man, just want to say that I don't think we're gonna get in. What to react to his clips? He got murdered at cambridge. Oh my god, his gummy looking face got made up. He got ate. Chuck the Cuck, you are a dork and you're a loser. I just want to say that I don't even really want to react to your content, but we're going to. I had so much shit too. I was Googling some shit about this. They had some stuff to kill. Oh, I was going to burn this nigga up Because you know, a shooter was part of his group, turning Point, the guy who shot up Florida State, I think, last year.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I did not know that yeah he was a Turning Point member for Charlie Kirk and he was like looked at as like this really extremist conservative and all that stuff. And it was just it reminded me of you know who Glenn Beck is. So Glenn Beck was like the Charlie Kirk when I was a kid and he was the one who was like saying all the wild stuff. And there was a dude named Byron Williams who got into a shootout with the police because he wanted to shoot up this organization. That Glenn Beck told him was bad and it just reminded me of that. And it's like you conservative clowns, man, y'all literally destroy, poison your own people's minds and brains and then tell them it's, you know, it's raining outside and you really pissing on them. So what? I think we did a good day today, man. We did all right. I want to thank y'all for listening to us man talk fnf tv we out, tell them what we need to do follow us on all of the social media at talkfnftv on instagram, twitter, um tiktok.
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Speaker 1:This is what Megan was hearing when Kelsey was on top of her, beating her ass. This is what Megan was hearing when Kelsey was on top of her beating her ass.
Speaker 2:That's what we gonna end it with.
Speaker 4:Yeah.