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Kai Cenat STEALS the BET Awards, Ciara VIOLATES Jim Jones and Tyler Perry DEFEND his Images of Black Women
The BET Awards consistently delivers a cultural touchstone for Black entertainment, and this year's 24th anniversary celebration was no exception. What began as a straightforward awards show evolved into a marathon of performances, social commentary, and unforgettable moments that kept viewers glued to their screens for over five hours.
The night kicked off with a nostalgic 106 & Park tribute featuring Bow Wow, transporting audiences back to BET's golden era while setting the stage for what would be a performance-dominated evening. Musical highlights ranged from Mariah Carey's stationary but vocally powerful showcase to GloRilla's evidence of genuine artistic development. Meanwhile, questions swirled around certain honors, particularly Angel Reese winning Female Athlete of the Year for the third consecutive time when accomplished figures like Coco Gauff and Clarissa Shields were overlooked despite their monumental achievements.
Behind the traditional broadcast, a parallel narrative unfolded through Kai Cenat's livestream, providing unprecedented backstage access and generating viral moments—most notably his encounter with Wale that exposed generational gaps in hip-hop recognition. This integration of streaming culture demonstrated how traditional award shows must evolve to remain relevant in today's fragmented media landscape.
Perhaps most powerful were the moments where entertainment and activism intersected. Doechii acceptance speech addressing immigration protests happening outside the venue reminded everyone that celebrating Black excellence doesn't happen in a vacuum—it occurs against a backdrop of ongoing social justice struggles. Her words about military forces being deployed against peaceful protesters resonated deeply, sparking important conversations about solidarity across marginalized communities.
From Tyler Perry announcing "Divorced Sisters" amid an eyebrow-raising speech about his legacy to Ciara creating an awkward moment pressing Jim Jones about marriage, the night balanced celebration with cringe, triumph with controversy. In doing so, it captured the beautiful complexity of Black cultural expression in all its unfiltered glory. Whether you're a longtime viewer or new to the BET universe, this year's ceremony proved why these cultural moments remain essential viewing in understanding the pulse of Black entertainment and beyond.
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Speaker 2:This is the source of probably some of your biggest childhood trauma and you still have to continue to do it. That's like if you had to go to work and your boss had like f***ed your b**** hole. Oh my God, and you had to keep going back to work and a lot of people I've been hearing are saying is it black people's business to get involved in these immigration issues? And I can't speak for a lot of y'all.
Speaker 1:And y'all going to put some fucking respect on Bow Wow's name. Finally, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Did you see him being scared of Erica Mint on the red carpet?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because she came up to him and she was like trying to give him a hug. She was like trying to give him a hug. She was like this crazy bitch.
Speaker 2:I know a nigga that's been abused before. I've seen the signs, young, that nigga was abused by her. For you to kind of say that, and then you put Angel Reese in this rarefied air, is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:There are so many other female athletes that are out here doing their thing. Sha'carri, write movies about you desperate dumb black bitches, and you desperate dumb black bitches keep giving me money, um I put footprints in the sand we'll get into that if. If you make all the wrong moves as a hoe, you end up in a hijab yeah, actually that's, that's pretty, it's pretty spot on right there yeah, that's the hijab pipeline your whole life is revolved around talking about other people's lives this podcast is sponsored by graffiti tax services.
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Speaker 2:That's it. Dmv baby All day. We didn't talk about this on the last episode because it's not important. It was definitely was important. So my, you know, one of the hometown heroes shut up, keep this short those. The hate is impeccable. Early the dmv legend michael beas served up one of Brooklyn's finest I guess you can call him.
Speaker 1:I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 2:Lance Stevenson Born ready. Maybe you may have heard of him. No, he was one at Lincoln High School. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1:No, I've heard of Lincoln Heights. You've never heard of Lincoln High School.
Speaker 2:Nope, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:How are you a New Yorker and then you've never heard of Lincoln High School? Why would I hear of a random high school?
Speaker 2:Because this isn't a random high school. It's produced some of the best basketball players from out of New York. Why would I care about that? Because you're from New York and that's like the mecca of basketball, Is it? Yeah, it's like black Indiana, White Indiana is the mecca of basketball for, or Indiana is the white mecca for basketball players and New York is the mecca for black players, Like. This is all like in the handbook I sent you earlier.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, this is ridiculous. But my boy, mike Beasley, came out on top, dominated them 31-21 in the 1v1, took a little honey K off of them. You know something light. They did double it up, but I don't think, lance can pay that, but it was a really good game.
Speaker 2:I saw a lot of the highlights of it because it was like $30 a watch. I wasn't paying. That Wasn't paying no $30 to watch a 1v1, two psychos, but the clips I saw was really good and I knew DMV was going to come through. We just had to show y'all once and for all we are the better hoopers and I'm glad you were able to take the loss with such grace.
Speaker 1:Let me act like I care about this. Oh my God, I'm so devastated that the random from New York I don't know got beat by the random from the DMV that I also do not know.
Speaker 5:Well like I said.
Speaker 2:I'm devastated. I've seen Mike play a few times in high school so I was aware of the game.
Speaker 1:New York, regardless of what happens, of what random crackhead from the DMV beats this man.
Speaker 2:New York. If he a crackhead, then New York is somewhere close.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 2:the. He was the nigga that blew in LeBron James' ear.
Speaker 1:Okay, I saw a clip of this man. He was like, if you spin, I'm going to take it there.
Speaker 2:That was him. Yeah, that was him. Which one was from new york?
Speaker 1:uh, the dark skin okay, because I knew he wasn't from new york. I was like it sound. I was like is this?
Speaker 2:this is very erotic yeah, the one that said I'm gonna make love to you on the court, that's mike beasley yeah, I was like this is very erotic.
Speaker 1:Is this the start of a man on man film?
Speaker 2:I used to think my dad wanted to adopt Mike Beasley when I was a kid Because the way he used to talk about him Hard left, I just did. I used to think the way he used to always bring him up.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to make jokes about how these men are gay.
Speaker 2:I thought I was making a joke too, and then you want to See I'm trying to take it off the homeboy ride.
Speaker 1:My daddy wanted to he did.
Speaker 2:He used to bring him up all the time. It used to hurt his heart when he used to hear like some of the bad stuff that was going on with him, because he just felt like man, all he need is just a loving home. He'll be all right. He probably would have been with my dad. He probably would have been like all-star for 20 times, 20 seasons. Well, that took him there. If I was 6'10" his size, I would have been there believe that, but uh, for sure we can get into the music.
Speaker 2:Man shout out to the dmv mike beasley. Uh, they're playing in the big three soon, so y'all check them out.
Speaker 1:I think it's this saturday so shout out to you basketball men.
Speaker 2:New York forever.
Speaker 6:Are you?
Speaker 2:playing this as Dame Dash Just came out and he's like In super debt.
Speaker 1:Um, I don't care About what's going on with Dame Dash. At all At all. Y'all need to start getting Pharrell on the hooks again.
Speaker 2:I don't think Pharrell doing any more hooks. It would have to be like a special song.
Speaker 1:He's like nah take my vocals off that.
Speaker 6:No, he needs to start writing them.
Speaker 4:No, I'm sure he's still writing them, but he's just like take my vocals off, that I'm going to take you to the top of the throne.
Speaker 5:I'm surprised this hasn't become a little TikTok trend with the girlies Change clothes.
Speaker 1:Ooh, what's up son, what's up Pebble?
Speaker 6:Hey man, I got that black ass next to me.
Speaker 1:AKA that dog in the red shirt.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I know you ain't over that staring at my girl yeah, I know you ain't over that staring at my girl. I know you don't call yourself hollering at my girl. I know you don't call yourself hollering at my girl. I keep putting the wood on.
Speaker 1:Put your head what this was a moment. Yeah, fabulous is that man for real. Fabulous is that guy.
Speaker 2:He had him going crazy on Love Hip Hop.
Speaker 1:New York. Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, emily, going wild on there. It was crazy. All right, you are now listening to Talk. Fnf TV. I'm your host Absurd Rhetoric, and I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss Farrah.
Speaker 5:Hello.
Speaker 2:All right, so we basically just watched like five hours of the BET awards my goodness like a lot of this episode is going to be like revolving around that, so keep up, okay, because it's gonna sound like we're talking about other stuff but we're not still within the BET realm, yeah, universe, but we got to be content with it, so we got to, you know, segment it up. So just be aware, but I think, just all around, like I knew, this was going to be a good BET Awards.
Speaker 1:It was the 24th anniversary, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2:That was one reason, the reason why I knew it was going to be good, because I hadn't watched it yet. It was already airing and my mom texts me and says hey, are you watching the BET Awards? It's really good she doesn't text stuff like that. For her to text it, that means she didn't want to be distracted from what she was watching and she wanted to make sure I was getting to it. So I was very like I was looking forward to it a little bit, I will say so that's why I didn't get to sit down and watch the full full. I think I watched like the second half of it for the most part.
Speaker 1:I watched the full seven and a half hours of the BET Awards.
Speaker 2:I did watch tons of clips so I'm up to date, I'm aware.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So you want to start off with the performances.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure there were. It was very performance heavy. They presented like five awards. They presented like five awards and it we're not even gonna get into them because they don't actually matter at all. Gloria won a gospel award that tells you hello what whatever. So, um, they started with like a 106 and park little tribute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought that was dope.
Speaker 1:It was super cute. Maya was looking good.
Speaker 2:I did see the Bow Wow part and I'm mad that you're going to play the song with him and Sierra.
Speaker 1:And Sierra was there and we don't have her coming out, maybe because that's her ex.
Speaker 2:I think Russell may be like holding the whip down a little bit, like I'm kind of with this, yeah, but like like that's, it's time for us to do your little song with that short nigga. He's not even a well russell. Short too. Russell isn't no tall man but he's not.
Speaker 1:It's not even that big of a deal for real wow, wow.
Speaker 4:Chris brown usually number one stop playing, go streaming. Everybody was wondering why, why c ain't come out? For, like you, i'm'm not going to lie to you, it was some real s***. I was going to put this out myself. I don't think BET, like first of all, when we do the one show, bet is the one that outsourced all the talent. So I don't know if she was aware or not, but I didn't even know she was in the building. I've been in my trailer all day. I've been at rehearsals. I had to host a red carpet, um, but I will say this it would have been a wonderful moment, um, and she did come out. I know she was in attendance. I didn't know that. I didn't know until I got off the stage and back to my trainer and check uh twitter.
Speaker 1:But I will say this screen fest is coming up and the next one me and me, me and b2k stadiums okay, speaking of b2k, b2k was also part of that little 106 Park tribute and Omarion was up there with Lil Fizz and I said, after he fucked your baby mom, the bag is gone, the post to be bag has dried up and you need to get back on stage with the nigga that hit your BM, oh my God. And you got to do bump, bump, bump next to him.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you know, it's tough when they gotta do that, when they gotta come back up, they have they even really officially pieced it up. Not, it was kind of like more like fizz just went on a podcast and was just like, oh no, you know, that's my boy still, or whatever, after he broke over april, right yeah, so no, that ain't it. No, it was a 2000s.
Speaker 1:Like hip-hop lover's dream like I have a whole like hundreds deep playlist of like 2000s music, so I was literally on my feet. This was the first time that I was watching the bt awards, just standing up dancing. It was such a little blast oh, you was excited yeah, and y'all gonna put some fucking respect on Bow Wow's name. Finally, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Did you see him being scared of Erica Min on the red carpet?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because she came up to him and she was like trying to give him a hug. She was like this crazy bitch I know a nigga, that's been abused before.
Speaker 2:I seen the signs young.
Speaker 1:That nigga was abused by her like this.
Speaker 2:We saw what she was doing to safari jumping fences and shit. He has ptsd. He's half the size of safari. Yeah what?
Speaker 1:do you think he was getting? Yeah, no, he has ptsd from. While bow wow was performing, um, jermaine dupree came out and obviously I know the lyrics to fresh as I'm is but jermaine didn't. I was like what's going on? Put me in, coach. I was going to, would you, would you? Would you get to the bag with a nigga who has betrayed you? Okay, so there's levels of portrayal that I will allow in that regard Like fucking your baby mom, that for let's say in this situation, you don't absolutely hate her fucking guts.
Speaker 2:See, because I have done that before. But like she wasn't trying, like I knew she wasn't going to holler back at him. So I like the idea of like, oh, you trying to come after me. So that's it's the narcissism in me, but that's that's the way I thought about it, that so, like if I was omari on, like, especially if I'm done with april, it's easy just be like, oh you, just you just after me, you just trying to be like me, little bro, like that's all. Like that's how I think about it.
Speaker 1:Like you're just trying to come after me, you just so you would get to the bag with the, with the little bro like hey, man, I get a little money with you.
Speaker 2:Maybe you can impress her a little bit more. Maybe she'll take you back if you come back with a little bit of paper.
Speaker 1:You are a maniac.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that's how you got to do it. You can't allow these dudes to think that they can manipulate you using your woman. They're going to try every time.
Speaker 1:I will destroy myself in order to exact my revenge on you. I'm not getting to no bag with you, bitch Like. If you beef with me, we gonna beef forever.
Speaker 2:All right, fair beat. I like Snoop's icon performance that they did. I wasn't mad at him.
Speaker 1:Why are we rewarding a coon? That's true. This nigga was just shucking and jiving like a couple months ago. Did we not forget that I said Snoop.
Speaker 2:People do. They didn't forget the shucking and jiving by snoop after everybody he was definitely everything he was definitely at an adjacent uh inauguration event, so we didn't forget that snoop I was. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw you on stage. The performance was cool. I'm mad. Why didn't they have dr dre have a mic for his part of his verse? I didn't get that.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because he was there. Yeah, he literally gave him the award.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was the one thing that was bothering me, Like if people are in attendance, let's get them to perform.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also really quickly back to B2K. What's his face? Wasn't there like a case about to happen? They just gotta dance through their trauma, their childhood repressed sexual trauma yo what's his name?
Speaker 2:chris? Uh yeah, what's his sales or what's his?
Speaker 1:name? Yeah, and then, and then, marcus I don't want to say his name wrong. What's his?
Speaker 2:chris, I think his name was chris, sale was a nigga that beat up that girl yeah chris stokes.
Speaker 1:yes, and then marcus houston was up there giving out awards, like he's not a whole pedophile. I'm like what's going on? Bt we giving awards to Snoop Dogg. Why is Marcus Houston talking at all? Like he could have been in the crowd. I'm okay with that, I guess, but why is he talking?
Speaker 2:At this point, marcus Houston and his girl. That's just something we just got to accept now.
Speaker 1:No, because that's where she is at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's been groomed to be there After the alleged kidnapping and her going missing and then like, hey, that's just your girl, you won. Listen, he won, he did it right.
Speaker 1:I mean, if there was a way to do it right. I almost grabbed this and knocked you over the head with it.
Speaker 2:If there's a way to do it right, he did it. It's not like he hitting her and abusing her. From the best of our knowledge, has that come out yet?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it always takes Mad Long to come out.
Speaker 2:It does. But I mean, she's been with this nigga for about what? At least a decade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but her frontal lobe just developed. She might not even know she's in a toxic situation until five years from now. And isn't she supposed to be related to Chris Stokes too? Yes, allegedly, because that's his play daughter. It's weird.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is wild, it's a weird situation.
Speaker 1:I don't know why Marcus Houston was up there at all.
Speaker 2:What was the one not Rasby? What was the other one, the light-skinned one, the one that really took it bad?
Speaker 1:Was that not Rasby?
Speaker 2:I thought Rasby was the dark-skinned or the brown-skinned.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but he was up there, like I said, just dancing through the trauma. That's what I put on my notes. I said they just got to dance through the trauma, Doing bump, bump, bump with the nigga that fucked your baby mama.
Speaker 2:And they was lip syncing Bump, bump, bump with a nigga that made you go bump, bump, bump.
Speaker 1:And they were fully lip syncing like for sure they don't have that type of breath control anymore. I don't believe it. Omarion can barely do the same moves he used to be doing.
Speaker 2:Oh, it is Razby. Razby I'm thinking about J-Boog. Razby was the one that was dang. Could you imagine that Like this is the source of probably some of your biggest childhood trauma and you still have to continue to do it. That's like if you had to go to work and your boss had like fingered your booty hole, oh my god keep going back to work what I just like that was excessive a little bit, but I'm just trying to explain for the audience yeah, no, it was a.
Speaker 1:It was a, it was a choice I'm just saying like that's just.
Speaker 2:That's why I feel bad for bro. I'm like I'm surprised like we ain't never heard, no, like attempted anything on him. If his stories is true, I'm surprised he's still with us yeah because his stuff was dark. But we can get off that, my bad um.
Speaker 1:So, uh, moving on with performances. Um, there was a cute little cypher. We don't really get into that because it was just ludicrous. Like who calls ludicrous, just ludicrous for a cypher, I don't know. Um, then they did a little mariah moment. Dj d nice came up, played a little mariah mix and mariah came out. She stood in one spot, did a little Mariah mix and Mariah came out. She stood in one spot, did a little one-two step.
Speaker 2:They didn't have the budget for her to move.
Speaker 1:I don't think Mariah got the knees for her to move. That's hate.
Speaker 2:But I believe Mariah probably got, she was in platforms this tall. I believe she got a counter Like I'm going to do these many steps and this is the package you can purchase, and if you want a little extra razzle dazzle, that's going to cost you a little bit more. She was like I can give you a little two step and we can keep this budget low.
Speaker 1:She barely made facial expressions while she was singing. Oh, you can't have that either.
Speaker 2:She was just like, just like honey, and then she did it early too.
Speaker 1:She was like no, gotta get this out of the way. And then the whole icon part of the show Wasn't till like hours later In like the third shift in the BET Awards. I'm like what's happening?
Speaker 2:No. Mariah said no, we gonna do mine early, i'ma leave, and then I'ma come back.
Speaker 1:I'ma leave, take a nap and then I'll come back and accept my award. Yeah, she still got that whistle note, by the way, I don't think she's ever gonna lose that. Uh, and then Lil Wayne came out, proving to us once more why he wasn't chosen for the Super Bowl, like please, just leave it alone. And also get rid of the locks.
Speaker 2:My god, they look so unhealthy but we can't see Wayne with a Caesar Like I don't think that that's, that can't be in our future.
Speaker 1:Wayne has enough money to get the best loctician in the world. Just let his hair grow out for a little bit and reattach some faux locks.
Speaker 2:That one part ain't gonna happen. Yeah, he could come out with the future though, how future had the little, the early 21st century pop star hair.
Speaker 1:The little Chucky he had going on, son of.
Speaker 2:Chucky. Yeah, that way he could pull the Chucky off. I don't think so that was like his first look when he first came out, that kind of like his hair.
Speaker 1:We'll just wear hats. No, we'll just wear hats from now on. We can't have wayne cutting his hair off glorilla performed. Every time she performs she gets a little bit better. They doing some artist development. Over there she was tap dancing it feels like with her she really wants to work.
Speaker 2:Yeah like she actually it seems like artist development is happening, but to me it feels like it it's her that's incentivizing it, like she's the one who values it, probably more than we have no idea. I'm just saying from what it seems like with her she's. When I see her posting it always seems like she is about making herself better, like she prepares, like how an athlete would prepare um, and then there was a little uh tribute.
Speaker 1:I don't know who this tribute was for jamie fox, I believe. So it was um, the, the boy from from sinners he he did the tribute, miles gatton I think his name is. And then the other two lucky day, and then, um, what's his face? Who, like literally, does every tribute because he sings down miles. It was a little bit, hey, did you see his, his performance?
Speaker 2:I didn't see the whole thing, I only seen like a little it was quiet you could.
Speaker 1:You could barely hear him. He did not sound good and I was so shocked. But I think also he was trying to sing too low, like was it a mic problem or was it his singing type? It was it was seemed like his singing like he was too low, he was like down here my question is you couldn't even hear him because he was all the way down here he wasn't into the mic no, I don't, I don't even know, it was just like he just got he has a very deep voice.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean by his. His octave was very low, and then he wasn't singing loudly, so it was just you couldn't hear him no, this is why I seen, like've seen, like.
Speaker 2:why are y'all hating on Jamie Foxx getting love? I've seen a lot of people hating Jamie Foxx is getting his love or whatever. I guess they don't believe his disease or whatever he went through. The stroke isn't real, or something.
Speaker 1:What is good with y'all Like y'all are really some haters. Why would Jamie Foxx have to fake a stroke?
Speaker 2:He's an American treasure. Remember, they tried to say Diddy did it. He joked about that.
Speaker 1:The man is a renaissance man. He's a great actor, he's a great musician.
Speaker 2:He's probably one of the most talented human beings on the planet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on now when it comes to entertainment. Jamie Foxx definitely deserved that and I'm glad he's getting his flowers because he almost died.
Speaker 2:His daughter got a lot of hair.
Speaker 1:The one that was on the right. Yeah yo, she's real hippie like yeah, his younger daughter.
Speaker 2:They don't make, they don't.
Speaker 1:They don't make the rich kids hippies like that anymore ever since jamie foxx had a near-death experience, he's been very long-winded and, um. I feel like death will do that to you.
Speaker 2:But wrap it up wrap it up like I see like I'm pretty sure when that one daughter comes around a thrift store they get, get scared, they know it's about to go crazy.
Speaker 1:Scared, they be excited. Well, I'm talking about they.
Speaker 2:Know they about to work Like it's the first time in a month that they actually had to really work at the thrift store. She about to go crazy in there. Buy that motherfucker out.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so that I think that first one was a Frankie Beverly tribute, the baby face tribute, I mean the Jamie Foxx tribute, I think, which is dope as hell.
Speaker 1:Stevie Wonder put together and then Jamie had no idea what was what was gonna happen. So it was baby face, teddy Riley, um, jennifer Hudson, dougie Fresh. It was so good. Jennifer Hudson came out during umtime the Ray Charles song, and she was like baby, I was like girl, she was in her bag. I will do something at my TV. You know how black people do when someone's singing. You just got to bitch.
Speaker 2:Bitch, don't mess up the 70 inch.
Speaker 1:Like I teared up a little bit. I was like I love being black because she's just up there hollering and it sounds so good. Um, Tiana Taylor did a performance. It looked really expensive. It was just a lot going on and it was. It looked very like high quality and creative production, but that's what she does.
Speaker 2:Iman, I'm with you. My guy man, I know that was probably a tough. That's probably a tough night last night or the other night.
Speaker 1:So Iman, it's been a tough year for you, because she in that movie with Brad Pitt, she in that movie that Tyler Perry just put out I don't think it's Brad Pitt, I think it's uh Leonardo oh, leonardo DiCaprio, you know same caliber of white man, um, interchangeable. You know the same caliber of white man, interchangeable you know the whites would disagree, but we don't care. She's in that movie with Tyler Perry, the new Straw movie, she on Aaron Pierre Arm. That's Mufasa.
Speaker 2:That's the Green Lantern.
Speaker 1:Also that Now he's a DC superhero. That's why he in shape. Well, yeah. Yeah, he already got the green eyes.
Speaker 2:They don't even got to add no CGI no they don't.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. I didn't even know he was going to be Green Lantern. Congratulations to him. Yeah, tiana Taylor is very much winning this year and she's putting out a new album after she said she was retiring from music. You don't put her through so much shit that her creative juices are flowing so much that she's like I have to speak. And the first, the first song, is called um, um, what is it called? Trauma room or whatever would destroy escape room? Escape. She had to escape from you you almost had her.
Speaker 2:You just needed a few little bit longer come on, and then you could have put that fire out, and she'd have been all you can never put that fire out.
Speaker 1:That lady is from new york, have you? You haven't met her. I met her a couple times see always.
Speaker 2:Every time I met her a couple times and her mom.
Speaker 1:Like both of them are. Like both of them are very much super sweet 16.
Speaker 2:I know what they are, I'm pretty sure, pretty sure they're not that far off from what I saw that episode so then, um, let's talk about.
Speaker 1:All of the skits were super cute, all of the little in between things. They got back to the real husbands of hollywood.
Speaker 2:That was cute, um kevin, the cast pass away the. It was a woman who used to be on that show, the real.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the, the woman that played kevin's ex-wife yeah, she passed away. Rip to you, girl. Um, kevin was hilarious, he um when he, when he opened you saw that joke he did about um kurt yeah, he was like shaking his dick for jesus. He was like stop shaking your dick, you do not need to do that. I was like what do you mean, kevin?
Speaker 1:so then I go on, tiktok, I, I, I type in um that's a sick type kirk fuck, I didn't type in kirk fucking shaking his dick for jesus, like I typed in kirk freaking dancing, and the first one is him who just jaw rating, just like he his face he was you falling from the Lord Kirk. I was like oh my god, kirk, nothing that you, no songs that you make, require these movements from you.
Speaker 2:Jesus never asked you to move it from the hips, I just wanna thank you, lord, for all that you've done for me, don't turn on our fans. They might try to make us get an only fan, so relax.
Speaker 1:I was appalled, I was taken aback and Kevin saying that was hilarious. He was hilarious, you saw him, kai Andruski.
Speaker 2:They were really funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you want to get into the whole streamer element of the BNT Awards?
Speaker 2:We can dive into this Kaisanot, because Kassanot was pretty much dominating it from the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was funny. There was a little portion. I don't know, you don't know Ty Hill, ty Lill, yeah, so his storyline was completely hilarious. So he gets to the B&T Awards and he brings his little niece with him. Yeah, and so they're like hey, yeah, you your cameras and your little niece can't come on the red carpet. So he started getting mad.
Speaker 1:They tell him basically that only famous people can come on the carpet with kids. And he's not famous enough to bring this little girl on. We don't even know who you are.
Speaker 2:Yo, he was so hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was tight.
Speaker 2:You could just see through his stream that he knew this was going to get lit and this was going to get a lot of clicks. But damn, my pride is going through it at the same time. But then kai pretty much came in, rescued him and then kai stream was pretty much like a success all the way around I think this was even better than when he was at the billboard awards.
Speaker 1:I think that was what it was probably better. Yeah, because he was backstage, he had a whole bunch of access. He was back there with kevin.
Speaker 2:Um their dynamic, him, kevin and juski are just like yeah, like somebody's going to end up giving them the three stooges, giving them some money to do something. They have to please, or a short series. I think that's what Kevin's into now doing series.
Speaker 1:I would like to see them in a short reality series where they're traveling like a little buddy-buddy type thing, unscripted completely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something, or it could be a. Eric Andre did that one movie where they were doing like RIL pranks everywhere. No, I think, they could do that, because why would I have watched that?
Speaker 1:We watched it together. I thought we watched it Wrong bitch.
Speaker 2:Maybe. But they could do something like that, where they just go around and they dress up like other people and they just do these pranks to people in real life.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see that that would be just what you kind of explained. No, just what you kind of explained. No, I want to see them like traveling and like going to bars, and I don't want to see them prank anybody.
Speaker 2:What do you want to see them do then?
Speaker 1:Just run around, you know here it goes.
Speaker 2:This little that's wild, Just run around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to see them like maybe like have a show where they like try different jobs.
Speaker 2:So you mean, this is the wildest stuff.
Speaker 1:One of those like old type, like reality tv shows where, like paris and nicole would like go to a ranch. I feel like that's what I'm doing what I'm saying I specifically do you not understand what I'm saying? I specifically do not want to fucking see them prank anybody that's this you do.
Speaker 2:You'll laugh? I think you would. You would.
Speaker 1:I don't like prank shows. I think they're corny I always have from childhood did you see what happened with Kai and Wale?
Speaker 2:I did so hold on. I think I got the clip here. So this, this one got the internet going crazy, because it's funny when people don't know certain characteristics of famous people. And this is like this generation's view of Wale, like what we've already been seeing for like a decade.
Speaker 4:So I'll just play the first part, right here you good what you playing on your Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 2:This is Kai running into Wale in the hallway and he goes into his car. Hi gang Chad, does anybody have the Nintendo Switch? You're not even a Nintendo Switch type of nigga into Wale in the hallway and he goes into his car.
Speaker 4:All right, gang Chad. Does anybody have the Nintendo Switch? You're not even a Nintendo Switch type of nigga. Nah, me neither. I ain't gonna lie, but I heard it was like crazy, though. I heard it was crazy bro Wale. Oh my God, that was somebody crazy. Hey, the whole chat, knows him? The whole chat.
Speaker 2:Wale what he do Rap oh, work Lotus Like Lotus Flower Bar in the background oh shit, wale. So again you got to show Kyle a little grace in this kind of situation, because he doesn't know that you just did the most triggering thing that you could ever do to the most sensitive kind of artist that Wale is.
Speaker 1:Is Wale really sensitive?
Speaker 2:What I don't know you must haven't been following him all through the 2010s.
Speaker 1:No, I just like the music. Again, I don't give a fuck about how you niggas feel. Drop the music. Shut the fuck up, go. That's how I listen to the music. Shut the fuck up, go like. That's how I listen to the music most of the time if it's not like top of the news stuff I'm.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's going on with you and your personality, my guy well see, while I was just on joe budden's podcast yeah, he just did a patreon episode he just sat down and you know he outlined a lot of these kind of issues that he has in regards to the media, uh, the industry, how they view him, how they see him. So he's always been someone who is super duper insecure about his position and maybe sometimes not feeling like he deserves to be there, maybe sometimes feeling like other people are treating him like he don't deserve to be there, so like that's always kind of been one of his mo's, like he talked about that on the pod where he was. Like everybody who I kind of find or whatever, they end up blowing up and forgetting about me or we end up not talking.
Speaker 2:He kind of like discussed, outlined that with a few people.
Speaker 1:Who did he say? I'm curious.
Speaker 2:There were some people I'm not truly familiar with. So, I wouldn't be able to give you the name, but it was R&B people, so there was later on in the stream. In in kai's stream. He's sitting down, he's talking to snoop and wale comes up to him and I'm gonna play what he said to him that shit making me look crazy right now.
Speaker 4:Just let you know what that's making me look crazy. The exchange that we had in the hallway is oh my bad, bro. I mean they're running with it. But we'll talk later.
Speaker 1:Kai doesn't care yeah.
Speaker 2:Kai doesn't. He's not even putting that together. He got so much going on he don't even realize it. Yeah, like he also for the second time does not remember who you are from the first time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was like huh, he's like my bad bro.
Speaker 2:I I don't even still don't know who you are. And the thing is, like the reason why I don't feel like we should be holding cod to this kind of high standard, because even when he was at the billboard music awards, all of that was happening, yeah, and literally was white people, all these people coming up to him that he didn't know he would be respectful, you know, pleasant, on the stream with him and then when they walked away he'd be like I don't know who that is yeah, and then he'd check chat and then chad would be like this is who this is like you don't know who this is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like lisa ray came up and introduced herself to him like.
Speaker 2:Like he's a young kid and and I think that's another thing too, where a lot of y'all are like, if you've never met this kid before, just because he's been on internet, you should know that he's not going to have that similar rapport. You're famous too, you know that. You're just not going to have an automatic rapport with famous people. Yeah, so it just to me, like I said, I understand where wale's coming from because he has done a lot of success and he probably should be ranked higher and viewed higher just from his musical prowess I think in the correct rooms he is ranked correctly but that's not what he wants, though he wants to be.
Speaker 2:When he goes out, he feels what a drake would feel, or how well. That's not what he wants, though he wants to be. When he goes out, he feels what a Drake would feel, or how Kendrick's feeling. Well, that's not it, wale, because you're black, famous, but he's don't act like he.
Speaker 1:He's black famous.
Speaker 2:He still want to feel like what Kendrick's feeling.
Speaker 1:I just think that is not feasible because you're not there.
Speaker 2:It's because he never played the role the way that people wanted him to.
Speaker 1:So that's why he don't play. He never played the role the way people wanted him to, so that's why I don't I I give that grace. I feel like, do you not agree with me that he's like more he's more, he's black famous.
Speaker 2:He's not like famous famous. Yeah, I understand him being black famous.
Speaker 1:I'm just talking about like in in the rooms where you are appreciated and known. You are ranked correctly. You want to be appreciated outside of like home and where.
Speaker 2:Like you, but I would disagree with that statement because if that was the case, then kai would know who he was oh yeah, but kai's young, that's all I'm giving.
Speaker 1:But even if he's young, kai know who drake is the same age as wale.
Speaker 2:They run the same, yeah, but drake is drake, and what I'm saying is if wale was done properly, he would be up in that echelon people would say his name up there with the kendricks, the jay coles and stuff like that. But he just never got that push the way he should. Yeah, who was he under? He was on rock nation, uh. He also was on, uh, mmg with ross for a while. That was a mistake that, but it helped him though. It gave him some. It gave him the buzz that nobody else was trying to give him Okay, if we taking it into context, nobody else was going to give him that kind of look and it kind of gave him the street validation and, in the same token, it still gave him a space to be able to explore his music, because that's what Ross does. Ross will play with music and sounds and stuff like that where he could fit in and actually be a musician with them.
Speaker 2:So that was much of the main thing. I think it was really dope of Kai to kind of just just to be opening up the world and I I can see a lot of people need to. That grace about no cameras and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Gonna have to start ending yeah just maybe especially at events like this don't record the performances and like the stage but the crowd, the stuff that nobody is gonna see regardless, like kevin and drewski and kai being backstage, all that stuff that we were never gonna see, period.
Speaker 2:Why not let the streamers fucking get they shit off, like it's gonna it's gonna be kind of a requirement that you, you, if you want to amplify it, you're going to have to work with one of these, some of these streamers, and use that to push up your event because I again. Granted, even this being the 25th anniversary, we obviously see the budget was cut for this one, more so than anytime you get mariah carey out anywhere for some black shit.
Speaker 1:You know the budget was cut, uh so you just kind of have to expect this. That's why the the hip-hop awards last year was doo-doo garbage. Because they were saving all the money for this year, because this year the budget was budgeting. For sure, yeah, they cashed out with that yeah, and that's what it always needs to be. Um I wrote down. Um I hate Cam Newton's pants.
Speaker 2:All right, so we can go into this one to be in the flops of the BET Awards here.
Speaker 1:Cam Newton's outfit was three sizes too small.
Speaker 2:So let's explain to him first why he was there. So they have announced a 106 in sports.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about that? What do you think the format's?
Speaker 2:gonna look like. I think it's gonna be a little bit real.
Speaker 1:I think it's gonna be a little bit like how 106 and park was, but like a countdown of like plays from what I read from the press release.
Speaker 2:I think it's gonna be a little bit like 106 and park, but also like state of the culture. You know they had that debate. Excuse me, I did say the culture. Uh, everyday struggle yeah with joe budden and all them. I think it's gonna have a little bit of that kind of discussion and argument to it, because they seem like it was gonna be kind of a debate show but not like yeah, she said that they would be arguing yeah, they would be going back and forth with it.
Speaker 2:Apparently, lebron has been involved in this. Okay, so because she uh, ashley moss is the one we talked about her on the show before, she's the one who's going to be co-hosting with cam. She's cute and she posted about she's, you know, shout out mad rich and lebron in regards to their process and helps in making this. So we'll see what this is going to. But cam newton I I I spoke to this before about how he's trying to make himself a big deal in media. So we're going to see if it's going to be coming to fruition, if he's going to be able to do this on an actual cable channel. It's going to be tough.
Speaker 1:I need you to stop wearing capris, my guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's turning it up for the TV show.
Speaker 1:You're seven foot four Shit, they make pants that are big enough for you. He's going to wear a bodysuit, oh for sure, and a hat with like at least seven feathers in it.
Speaker 2:It's going to have like a raccoon's tail in it. Just to let you know what time he on my goodness so other stuff that I saw. That was completely horrible. So Brittany Renner and Kevin Gates apparently have gotten a divorce.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we saw that coming a mile away.
Speaker 2:I mean duh. There's no way that someone who's had her mind as the way she is now is going to be able to focus in on the Islam religion and actually be a good. You know, did we talk?
Speaker 1:about this on the show, because I asked you whether you thought that she was going to stay like wearing the hijab. You think she's going to continue being a hijabi.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I think she's that's wild, but I don't think that's what you post.
Speaker 6:I think that's what you're supposed to. I think that's Indian hijabis.
Speaker 1:No, that's what the girls who wear the hijabs on TikTok call themselves.
Speaker 2:I thought that was the Indian.
Speaker 1:Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to look it up, but I think that's what the girls call themselves.
Speaker 2:I think she's going to still play into the narrative because I think it's still Punjabi is what you're talking about. Oh OK, thinking about, I that narrative, but I just feel like her fall from grace was so evident, like the fact that you're announcing your divorce with bootleg kev, like that's who you're sitting down, not no, like when I picture announcing a divorce to somebody yeah you're sitting down with like another woman. You're kind of like really breaking down and outlining what happened to you?
Speaker 1:Who are you sitting down with for real that cares that you're getting a divorce from Kevin Gates three months after you announced you were getting married to Kevin Gates?
Speaker 2:Tasha Mack wouldn't sit down with her.
Speaker 1:Who is Tasha Mack?
Speaker 2:Did I say Tasha Mack, tasha K.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't think Tasha K would.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's interesting enough, but she is on Basketball Wives, yeah, so that's interesting enough, but she is on Basketball Wives, yeah, so I mean, like it just felt bad for her, like that's where you got to give it up at Like you was her. When I was coming up, you was there. Every football player wanted a piece of you Colin Kaepernick and all of them and then just for her to just fall out from grace. You went from big-time athletes to Kevin Gates to now you're out on your ass, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you did not do that PJ thing correctly at all.
Speaker 2:At all. Because you got the baby and no money and you was older than him. Like you was Drea before the rest of them.
Speaker 1:Like Brittany Renner is a hoe's cautionary tale. Yeah, she's like what you don't do as a hoe. If you make all the wrong moves as a hoe, you end up in a hijab.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually, that's pretty spot on right there. Hoe to hijab pipeline. That's not a thing.
Speaker 1:I know a girl who converted for a little bit Top top.
Speaker 2:No, so she's still holding it down, she's still hoeing it down.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I have no idea, I don't so.
Speaker 2:I have to go into this. This was entirely so embarrassing, sierra. I know we discussed you a little bit earlier in the broadcast and whatnot, but for you to do this to Jim Jones in the way that you did and put him on blast, it was just uncalled for.
Speaker 3:Sorry, because I just really need this to happen. I don't want to get mad at you because I don't know how you feel, but I really need y'all to just go ahead, and I'm coming in hot, should I?
Speaker 5:just stay on what I'm on right now.
Speaker 6:I'm going to stay on it, because, why not?
Speaker 3:Why not, like y'all, have like, lived life in every capacity anyone could live in. You live in life. You've already done it, so let's just seal it proper. Seal it proper because you know what? He deserves it. You deserve, deserve it. Why not like? That lady don't care and I'm like they're so cute and so fly. Chrissy is so beautiful and so dope and she holds you down like down, down, down, like this is a spirit talking through me right now. I'm just saying Like I just saw you and I got excited.
Speaker 2:Yo like the fact, like women like Ciara who feel like their relationship like endows them with this spirit to be able to like tell other people what they should or shouldn't be doing in this relationship. It's so obnoxious, it's like like the worst, like just just the tone of her voice, like the audacity, and then like there's shade and even that, that holding down, down, down, because you're like saying you cheated on her and she's still with you, like that's what you're saying to me and like like she stayed with you through shit that she should have left and like what and
Speaker 1:that's insulting to chr too, because you low-key calling her a dumb bitch.
Speaker 2:And then what you supposed to do. If you, jim Jones, in this situation, this is your new quarterback's wife here. You can't just snap at her. You ain't going to be in no Giants game, how you going to be balling. You can't do all that. You got to be up there to do the song, so you can't flip out on her, so you just gotta sit there and take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just gotta be like yeah, okay, bitch, shut up, shut up, bitch. I don't care what you're saying right now, but just like naughty.
Speaker 2:But then that makes you look too right I don't know, I couldn't see her in the in the screen, but uh, and then it just makes it even worse because it's like if you, even if you're doing that, that's like making sense, now I don't care about my bitch and like I do that enough at home, you don't need to do this here on the screen lady like okay, the bitch know I'll be fucking doing her dirty.
Speaker 1:You don't got a reminder I don't know if, um when people. I watch a lot of reality tv. I don't remember what show was on. It might have been in love and hip-hop, I don't know but there was one point where jim was like ready to propose to her and she was like keep it, don't want it yeah, after you do that to a man too, he's not.
Speaker 2:We're just gonna keep it kosher this was after like 17 years. She was like I don't even care about this anymore so then that even makes me with this bullshit, makes it even more reason yeah, like I don't think either of them are on the like wanting to get married thing at all anymore.
Speaker 1:Maybe she is, I don't know. Either of them are on the like wanting to get married thing at all anymore. Maybe she is, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But and then like the other part about the Sierra thing, that just it bothers me is that the this discussion that I've just seen on my timeline. So I'm going to read this tweet for you and I'm going to expose the woman who said this too, because I just thought this was probably one of this had to be one of the most disgusting things I've read in quite some time obana bonnie. And she says sierra and the general public have bolstered russell's image as a good husband and father so much that he has the social power to truly terrorize and harm her. Like it creeps me out, he's held for literally just uh, being a counter to future in their performance of masculinity.
Speaker 1:How is he catching strays?
Speaker 2:for being a good guy, that's what I'm saying, Like that was one of the most disgusting things I have ever read.
Speaker 1:You just hate men and I appreciate that, because I hate men, but you like really you hate these niggas.
Speaker 2:That's a different level of hate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you.
Speaker 2:Like just look at all the stuff that she like implications that she put on this nigga yeah, like made him dangerous and we've never even seen a inkling of him literally that literally his ex-wife cheated on him allegedly with one of his teammates, and she's still alive. So I mean that's a good sign that he may not be a crazy hombre, and it's just like that was wild to me. Granted, that still don't give sierra the right to go around telling that niggas what to do with their relationships.
Speaker 1:But that was just nuts to me people were asking sierra for the prayer for too long. Now she think she thinks she does, she's christ. Yeah, she thinks she's like the relationship expert, because you got a good, a good man all right.
Speaker 2:So there was another travesty that happened that night on the bt awards. So again, you know, I try not to make this like an angel angel reese hate fest in any capacity, because I think she's a really dope girl. Offside of her missing a bunch of layups every game, I think besides that she could be a really interesting person probably. Maybe your podcast is okay, uh, but she won athlete of the year, female athlete of the year for the third straight year. Do you know who was the only other woman who's won the bet female athlete of the year consecutively? Who? Serena?
Speaker 1:yeah, and she's not at a Serena level of sportsmanship? I don't think, not in, not even the least bit like not, it's not even close.
Speaker 2:So I went back and looked at it Serena pretty much dominated. Since the first time they gave it I was 20, 2001 she's probably won since 2019 I want to say maybe 15, 16 of them, maybe 17. Literally, from 2010 to 2019, she won all of them but one. It was the Gabby Douglas. Gabby Douglas was the only one who won the other one. So like for you to kind of say that and then you put Angel Reese in this rarefied air is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:There are so many other female athletes that are out here doing their thing, sha'carri.
Speaker 2:I was thinking Clarissa Shields.
Speaker 1:We've been saying her name wrong. I remember she posted a video. She said we've been saying her. I think it's Sha'Carra.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sha'carra, Something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah Her, Coco Gaul Naomi, Like something like that I don't know. Yeah her um coco golf naomi. Like there are so many women black women in sports that are like dominating. To just focus on basketball for three years in a row is a little crazy, oh for sure.
Speaker 1:And then, like even just the fact that coco just won, literally yeah, just you could have gave her that and I'm sure she, if she had time like she, would have been happy to show up and be around all those black people especially after what happened at her win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like give her some love.
Speaker 1:Give her some flowers, get love on her a little bit.
Speaker 2:That would have been the perfect time to do that yeah, I was gonna uh discuss this on the show, but we could just hop on it right here. Did you see that white girl crying on stage?
Speaker 1:after, when she was coming for second place, she said that the only reason coco won is. She said she wouldn't have been able to win if I didn't play so badly and she wouldn't have been able to beat anybody else at this level with, like, how she was playing yeah, she also tried to say bitch, how dare you?
Speaker 2:she also said the girl that beat her if she would have won and played Coco, she would have beat Coco. But it was crazy because on the stand, when she was talking in front of everybody, she told Coco you was the better player. So for her to then go on her interview post-game interviews and switch it up lame as fuck White women. I just want to say this too before I get into this For you to go up there, I don't care what ethnicity, what race, what country you from. You know your white tears and what you're going to do, and you stripped that moment from that girl and that was messed up. You made her look like the bad guy.
Speaker 6:For winning.
Speaker 1:Like that's literally so insane. Yeah, that's insane. Damn, I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, Coco's response, I think, was great. She was like maybe I wouldn't have been able to beat all them players, but this is the situation, this is the game we played and I beat you and that girl was right like 341 yeah and but um, the, the girl who she was playing was like, uh, projected to to beat her or something like that, projected to to beat coco, and it definitely was not that at all.
Speaker 1:It was an upsetting loss. Coco wiped her like, mopped the floor with her yeah, no, it was literally.
Speaker 2:The first set was close and then she beat her in two straight sets. Yeah, it was done like wasn't even overwhelming no questions asked like you got your ass whooped two straight sets, get out of here yeah we going home chalk it up, and then it wasn't even close.
Speaker 2:It was like six two, six four yeah like nah, bitch, it's done, you can go home, uh, but no, with the angel reese thing, I just think we're putting way too much on her and I don't I think she's going to let a lot of people down because her performances are going to match the hype. And it just really bothered me, like I said, because clarissa shields has been doing dominant work. She's been, uh, multi champion in different weight classes, like it. To me it just when you just sell out like that for the award, it makes you feel like you don't. You're telling the people who are in the nominees that you don't really care about it yeah, and then juuju's been doing a good job too, right.
Speaker 2:The basketball player. She's not a professional, so I can understand why they may not give it to her.
Speaker 1:Okay she's not. She's in high school still or college, still College.
Speaker 2:yeah, she's still in college, so she's not technically a professional.
Speaker 1:Is she the one that got hurt?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did gonna do recovery and stuff. Okay, so I actually saw her she was doing a little coaching program. Uh, well, she was doing a coaching like celebrity coaching thing, so she was walking around. Okay, good, we'll see. We'll see how that turns out. Uh, just stay away from our quarterback, uh. And then last thing I wanted to stay on. I don't know if you had anything else for the bet awards, but I don't think I had anything else for the bet awards.
Speaker 1:I just think, um, the last thing I want to say about that is always put this amount of money into it. Um, it was great. It was blackity, black, black, it was beautiful. Um, I'm glad everybody actually showed up for the bt awards and I wish, I hope, that the black celebrities continue to show up for the bt awards, because it's so much better when y'all are there to perform and whatnot I also don't think mariah the scientist is safe.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like she's safe at all.
Speaker 1:She's not.
Speaker 2:Like that pool that was straight out of a Tyler Perry movie.
Speaker 1:And they wanted to interview her yeah.
Speaker 2:Straight out of a Tyler Perry movie.
Speaker 1:Like she's getting her little buzz. This is this. She just dropped a single that everybody loves, burning Blue. Like, let her get her little interview off. She this is. She's on the rise to stardom. You have already risen to superstardom. Let her have her shine in her moment. Sir, Look like a serial killer with that mask and that bag. I was disturbed.
Speaker 2:This is going to be Diary of a Light-Skinned Black Woman Like. This is what's going to happen. Tyler Perry saw that instant on the red carpet and he's writing his new movie right now. It's going to be like the character's going to be Thug Young that's who it's going to be, and Mariah the chemist that's who it's going to be. You know that. You know he was sitting there waiting. It's going to be Soraya the chemist. He's sitting there. You seen that speech he gave.
Speaker 1:He was sitting there ready to write that story yeah oh, he's gonna get britney to the player so there are things that we need to get into more about the bt awards it's tyler perry.
Speaker 2:I was trying to let it slide into there, yeah, because tyler perry, so they.
Speaker 1:He came up and gave this speech and he was thank you, uh, negroes, for always making my movies number one. Uh, I write movies about you desperate dumb black bitches, and you desperate dumb black bitches keep giving me money um. I put footprints in the sand we'll get into that, because I didn't want to play, because it's so like Egotistical and like delusions of grandeur, like that's what. That's what his speech gave me. Other than like he does, he does put a lot of money into black people's pockets. He reminded us of that.
Speaker 2:Of course, he's always going to remind us of that. He's always going to remind us that he took his, his shit, to atlanta and, uh, made his own table instead of begging for a seat at the table. And he gonna tell us that he made more black millionaires than any any studio, which I don't know if that's true you gave cicely tyson one million once.
Speaker 1:That's probably her first million it was, so I mean yeah, they were symbolic. That's why he did that. Um so he he continues by saying and you, let me stop saying dumb black bitches, you, you are going to make my next movie, number one. Um? So he announces that he's putting out divorced sisters. You literally cannot make this shit up.
Speaker 1:This is an episode of the boondocks he hated that show he got up there and said I'm making a movie called divorced sisters. Tyler perry needs to be locked up for his crimes against black women, so let me ask you a question who do you think spoofed tyler perry better boom docs or atlanta? Oh, that's really.
Speaker 2:Atlanta was good y'all.
Speaker 1:I think Atlanta was a little bit more fleshed out in the way they spoofed him.
Speaker 2:I would say they were both as fleshed out. They literally had a backstory in the boondocks for him.
Speaker 1:But that episode you cannot find the episode I mean I can show you where it's at.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be in no official places, but I can.
Speaker 1:Okay places, but I can okay.
Speaker 2:but yeah, he was upset atlanta, that's, it was mr chocolate, literally only like that was one of the first times the boondocks episode came on that one night and never came on again. Like it was literally never again that's crazy. Tyler perry has power well, I think he was with warner during that time. I want to say okay because I think that's where he did the alex cross movies and all this stuff with.
Speaker 1:I could be wrong, but I think he was with them and he was like I'm never gonna put a movie out with you guys if you don't get rid of this so, um, yeah, he announces that and then he goes into like a little antidote about him and his son being on the beach and his son, um, taps him and is like papa, look, I'm following in your footsteps in the sand and he's like three years old. No, that's a lie. That story is a lie. I'm like what the fuck is this You're going to? Do that though Pretentious nonsense.
Speaker 2:Huh, you're going to do that when we have kids? Are you going to make up the little lie?
Speaker 1:No, I'm not.
Speaker 2:She's like she came up to me and said love that you work so hard.
Speaker 1:You're such an empowering black woman you're my harriet tupman.
Speaker 2:I want to punch you in your face.
Speaker 1:You're my harriet tupman I want to punch you in right in your nose.
Speaker 2:You showed me freedom.
Speaker 1:Mommy like hey, is this tyler perry? Jesus? That's what he was trying to make it seem like. And then he was like uh, uh, they try to erase our footsteps.
Speaker 6:They've taken books out of the schools, they try to clean it up and I was like, what are we getting?
Speaker 1:at here. You just announced divorced sisters. Like do you care about the plight of the black people for real? I don't know. It seems like sometimes you do. Sometimes you're going to use the plight of the black people to benefit, because that's all you do is make black trauma porn.
Speaker 2:But see, that's the thing, because we he's true in what he's saying. They trying to change the, the naval boat. They got harry tupman name on it yeah, the dei shit so I
Speaker 2:mean he's, he's speaking to a truth, but like, when I think of like what we see especially now with like black directors and horror, horror films and the fact that we never got like a legit different kind of movie from tyler perry it, to me it feels as though like it's either the fact that you aren't empowering other people and other visions he's not.
Speaker 1:We know he's not. We know he's writing, directing, producing, like he's doing everything on his own, but what I'm saying is that limits.
Speaker 2:That just shows your limitations as a creator. Yes, I feel like that is more his story in the long run than it is his success with these movies.
Speaker 1:He's never any nuance, it's just struggle. This lady is struggling.
Speaker 2:I read the synopsis for Straw. She's struggling the entire time. Yeah, it was like the first 11 minutes of the movie. Landlord didn't talk shit about her Daughter's sick. You know what I'm saying. She about to get kicked out Like it's crazy Yep Top of the morning. Then come to find out it's all a dream.
Speaker 1:The girl done died weeks come to find out. It's all a dream. The girl didn't die weeks ago. Oh, you didn't watch it. No, oh shit, my bad, I thought you watched. I don't think I was going to.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you were either, though, but I thought you had already watched it.
Speaker 1:No, I was.
Speaker 2:I'm not rushing to watch tyler it comes out that she just had been so stressed out for losing her daughter that she forgot about everything, that she lost her and just started imagining and hallucinating, Damn. And then she like robbed a bank. Real shit, this is what I'm telling you, Like you're a horrible person, Because this nigga tried to say because he just got called out about it, I guess, in a recent interview and he tried to say, like I'm telling the stories of my mom and my aunt. Your aunt never hallucinated and robbed a bank, my nigga.
Speaker 1:I've heard him say that these are important stories to tell and nobody else is telling these stories. Nobody else is telling these stories because they're not important stories to tell. No, you're not teaching people lessons. I remember my mother took me to see Four Colored Girls. She was like this is an important film for you to watch. As a black woman, I was like okay, mommy, I'm going to go see it with you. And then Michael Ealy threw two kids off of an apartment story. He threw the kids. The kids died. I was like what is happening After somebody got graped before somebody else got like HIV? I was like what?
Speaker 2:Yo, Tyler loved to throw HIV on niggas.
Speaker 1:On black women.
Speaker 2:He threw it on a nigga too. Remember that was the nigga who was giving it to him.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. It was just so many convoluted, fucked up storylines in that movie and it was so unnecessary for me to watch and I never saw it again. Hold on, because he announced the second movie, medea's destination wedding. We'll leave that where that is at least medea's finding love. I don't know, he's probably a criminal too.
Speaker 2:So one of the things that I just feel like I've been noticing a lot with these award shows it just seems like LA is always going through something when these award shows have a member of. The fires were happening early on. So I want to just shout out to Dolce you know I haven't been the biggest supporter on this show for her, but she did step up. She hate black women, that's not true. She did step up.
Speaker 6:I'm not Tyler Perry. She did step up and, you know, say some important stuff that I think we should kind of just discuss at the at her acceptance for her award. So what's happening right now? Outside of the building? There are ruthless attacks that are creating fear and chaos in our communities. In the name of law and order, trump is using military forces to stop a protest, and I want y'all to consider what kind of government it appears to be when, every time we exercise our democratic right to protest, the military is deployed against us. What type of government is that? People are being swept up and torn from their families, and I feel it's my responsibility as an artist to use this moment to speak up for all oppressed people, for black people, for Latino people, for trans people, for the people in Gaza. We all deserve to live in hope and not in fear, and I hope we stand together, my brothers and my sisters, against hate and we protest against it. Thank you, bet.
Speaker 2:So a lot of discussion about that and I think that was dope for her to kind of just you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she threw in Gaza too real quick, yeah, no, I guess I thought that was very big of her to be able to do that and use that moment for that. And I think it's important because one of the discussions I kept seeing going around, in light of the protests that have been happening, not only in LA, we've had some in Atlanta, new York, chicago, colorado, so there's been tons of protests in protests in regards to this ice, you know, mass deportation efforts and a lot of people I've been hearing the same. Is it black people's business to get involved in these immigration issues? And I can't speak for a lot of y'all in that regard, but that hits close home to me in regards to that. So that is going to be something that, as a black person, I am going to be thoughtful about, I'm going to be mindful about, because that doesn't just affect Latinos and, you know, maybe Asian people who have it affects Caribbean people too, and African people and the black diaspora, which is what we care about mostly.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying, not even just that, it's just the fact that this is a protest that has not taken any lives it's a extremely it's a completely peaceful protest.
Speaker 2:I mean it's not completely peace. There has been property damage, but no one's dying, no one's injured, no one's getting hurt. And for the president to try to use this as a moment to push the, the military, out there is not only dangerous, but it's showing that he is trying to either get this to a point where somebody does lose their life and now he feels like an opportunistic approach to be able to oh, look at these people doing xyz, the military needs to come in and shape up california or we just have this idea where he feels like oh, this show of force that I'm using was enough to quell what was this resistance when it was no resistance? And actually I think this is going to actually go to what a lot of people in california have been wanting to do, and that's a seed from america. I don't know if you've been seeing these posts.
Speaker 2:I've been seeing that, but I believe there's a bill that's going in where that's actually being potentially discussed like that's something that's going wrong, because a lot of people don't know california is one of the highest gdps in the world.
Speaker 2:Just by themselves is what they fund a lot of other countries, I mean a lot of other states in this country yeah, because of the ports and stuff yeah, just because of how much activity, like I said, the ports, how much activity they got to go there, uh, the type of vents and and the type of people who live there. So it's a lot of affluent people. So, no, it's. This is an important thing. And for y'all to even be sending the military when no one's called for it, that's just dangerous in and of itself and it shows what kind of individual he is.
Speaker 1:He wouldn't do this if it was oklahoma and there was some whites, something going on he's literally partying the, the February, the January 14th, like six, six, yeah he's, he's parting those people so we know that, like certain people can um protest, and violently too, and cause property damage, and then certain people can't, yeah, I mean that's it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It's really just sickening, because for you to when the this is the first time the president has deployed the national guard and he's sending marines to essentially they're not gonna be able to really allow to do anything because they don't really have the kind of training to interact with people per se.
Speaker 2:So a lot of them are just gonna be kind of standing around and do it's really gonna be a waste of money. So it's a waste of money. It's a bullshit show of force. For again, no lives have been lost in this situation. This is a normal reaction to a protest. This happens all the time and a lot of these ice agents are going overboard yeah, the way that they're. I just seen the one where they.
Speaker 1:It was a car accident where the ice agent, I guess thought the person was a legal immigrant, driving the car, drives out, hits them with his car, sees that they're american citizens, I guess, by looking at their information, peels away and then floods, the scene literally did a hit and run on an american citizen, like if ice agents are behaving like this even if you look a little bit or sound a little bit like you're not a citizen, or they assume you're not, then you're in danger. Like this is putting more than undocumented immigrants in danger.
Speaker 2:And this also puts future protesters in danger, because he's trying to create a precedent on what is the norm the norm for him to put out the military, the norm for him to put out the military and all it takes is one person to fire off from either side, and now you have a bloody situation by the hands of our own military in our country. I don't think people understand the gravity of what that could create. If something like that happens, especially if the president is going over the head of the state's mayor and it's just like it's oh man, I mean and I should say governor, not mayor, go over this, the state's governor. But no, it's just that. Stuff is just crazy. I think it's very ignorant of us as black people to act like this is just a latino issue, because they're already talking about sending prisoners overseas I think black people are the, the black people who have that stance that, like, this is not my issue.
Speaker 1:They're thinking about the number of latino people who did vote for trump, so then they're kind of like a this is your bed, you gotta lie in it. But they're not thinking about, like the, the bigger picture and how everybody is going to be negatively affected by this. They're just like ha ha, like this is, this is what you wanted.
Speaker 2:And then you also got to think about the Latinos who this is affecting. Couldn't vote, so I don't, I don't. I would be perplexed by that stance.
Speaker 1:The people. Undocumented immigrants can't vote because they're undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 2:Latinos who voted are citizens, ain't no getting rid of them. So I don't. I'm confused, but again we are. We are leading into that point where what if they start deporting American citizens who don't fit with the ideals because, like I said, they're already talking about doing it with prisoners?
Speaker 2:yeah they're sending, trying to send them to work camps in other countries, like that is. It's a slippery slope that once we see it on the other side, we're gonna be like, oh we, we didn't effed up. And again I I I warned people about this early on in the podcast. Last year, during the election, we talked about why there were so many cop cities being set up. Why are so many budgets for police keep increasing? And it's because they're not trying to protect you, they're trying to stop you when you resist. It's going to keep happening. It's going to start affecting food. It's going to start affecting Food. We're going to have Questions about that with all Of these tariffs and all of this trade Instability. So Prepare for yourself According, because these are Just light examples so that he can show his force and we're going to continue to See more and more of this and I just Hope all the people to be safe.
Speaker 2:My stance on immigration is we need to have a fast track way to get people documented and let them know that they're in this country and then they can be in this country like I keep. I'm tired of hearing all of these oh, if I go to mexico, you're not going to go to mexico. You know why? Because we do a lot of crazy stuff. To me, mexico that would not make you want to stay there. That's just for real. Because if you want to legally go to Mexico, it's not as hard as it is to come over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You just have to go through certain channels, you have to go through certain paperwork and stuff. But with us you got court dates, you got all of this crazy stuff you have to go through. You got so much money out.
Speaker 1:You got to pay. It's like it's a little less than a thousand dollars. It's biometrics appointment. Then it's the test. Then it's, um when, well, then that's done, then you pass the test and then you get your citizenship, and then you have to show up for the background checks and stuff too, like that. Well, yeah, that's before you go in, when you fill out the application, they do all that and then you'll get your appointment so, like I said, man again, I'm not one of those people who, oh, you're, you're breaking the law when you come.
Speaker 2:Hey, I understand we mess up a lot of countries, we make it not worth being in any a lot, a lot of countries in this world. We, we out here, making the folks only grow certain fruits and crops so they can't provide for themselves. Uh, you, that allows warlords to take over and and try to cause resistance. And then those people have bad intentions and then they hurt people who aren't following their rules. And then now you have civilians who just want to survive, who just want to have their own autonomy be in danger because they don't agree with this madman who wasn't voted into power.
Speaker 1:So that's why I'm I'm come to the country, fill us up yeah, I was watching the news this morning and they said that there's a massive shortage on nurses and usually, um, they get nurses from like the philippines a lot, but it's getting increasingly harder because of trump's um? Uh laws and everything that he put into place with immigration. So now we just have a shortage of nurses because the, the boomers and the, the, the older nurses are retiring and we need more and we're very short-staffed, especially after covid yeah makes sense, and then they can't get the nurses.
Speaker 1:So, and apparently the nurses in the philippines are trained very similarly to the trade, to the nurses in the united states, which is why they just bring them over all the time. Now we're not gonna have nurses, because if you go, if you've ever been to a hospital or anything, and you, you try to find a nurse, like they have an accent, the nurse has an accent. The nurse has a Caribbean, african or Asian accent.
Speaker 1:So, I mean we don't raise our American girls to want to take care like they used to. I mean no, the girls are becoming nurses too. Like 100% the nurses be having BBLs. See Mine, not in the right place.
Speaker 2:This was something I wanted to bring up, because we are a YouTube couple who talks a little trash A.
Speaker 1:YouTube couple is crazy. We're not a YouTube couple. We're a YouTube. We are a couple that has a podcast that happens to be, on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Be on the YouTube platform.
Speaker 1:Like a.
Speaker 2:YouTube couple is crazy. All right, so I just want to give my condolences to finny the legend. So finny the legend was a youtuber and if you haven't seen this, his story's probably been all over online. This shit is crazy. He was involved in a internet beef with a gentleman by the name of sin city manny, and so sin city was. They basically had like a contentious relationship where they would talk trash. Finney would strike his channel, he would fight, uh, so that he would, you know, crash and not have be able to get you know views and money and stuff like that. He would basically stop that. So there was like a very contentious argument between those two regarding that and finney obviously took it too far with his conversations and what it led up to. So I'm gonna play what he said to Manny and Manny's a psychopath like this dude is like legitimately Mexican gangster putting the clown mask on and all that crazy nonsense.
Speaker 5:But let's get this. Let's get this clear though y'all, because we all laugh at jokes. This is a PR, this is a PR moment. We all laugh at jokes, but mental illness is real and we can clearly see this guy is mentally ill. So one thing about it.
Speaker 6:You didn't know, how.
Speaker 5:Oh, y'all too. If he give us another strike and I got three, y'all know that channel mean everything to him. He don't got no outside friends, nothing. I don't think I could do it in my heart and I'm saying this on live so he can hear it too Shout out LDT. But I don't think I can take his channel from him, man, because I think he's so close to going in the closet man. He's so close, man, fuck that. You know what the first thing I asked you did you give him a strike? Fuck that. You swing, you swing the beat, we swing it back twice.
Speaker 2:And see, hey, I saw a lot of conversations talking about oh man, the youtube strike feature needs to be, you know, remodeled. Y'all need to understand what these strikes are, man, like. If you out here crashing out over a strike, it's because either you really did something wrong in regards to you stole someone's content or did something like that. If you just appeal to strike and you are in within fair use, it more than likely is going to go away. And for you to kind of take that as like some type of shot and, like I said, if he had two strikes on him already, that means he did something that he wasn't supposed to either he reviewed and they, yeah, like he kept, maybe was speaking disparagingly about them probably doing threats of violence and stuff like that, so that could be potentially a reason why.
Speaker 2:But then this psychopath goes around and I want to play the video of him. Jerome, I'm out here searching for my baby the fuck.
Speaker 6:I went through every fucking casino there is. I had one of my biggest fans here in fucking town.
Speaker 2:I was dying to see him. I was fucking dying to see him. What are we doing? Fuel bar tonight. Is that what we're doing? I'll fucking be there. I'll fucking be there. I'll fucking be there. You better fucking believe it. You come to my city and think I'm not going to show up. You fucking think I'm not going to show up. I should have been the first one to be told, right? Somebody should have sent me my invite, mr.
Speaker 1:Marcus, okay, you letting these videos play too long, I'll be wondering them to say something fly.
Speaker 2:And then I'll cut it into that Okay. But so, like I said, they came to Vegas to do a trip because they're not from Vegas, finney and them aren't from Vegas, so they came in to just do a couple's trip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to have a good time, him and his wife. They had videos of them beforehand drinking have a good time, him and his wife. They have videos of them beforehand, you know, drinking having a good time. So they're on the strip at night and you see in the live video that they have manny walking across. He comes back, turns around him and finney start to interact. Before you know it he grabs out his firearm and shoots like like the whole clip into at least the crowd. Apparently he also shoots the wife and he kills both of them. He takes off, hides the gun, tries to get away.
Speaker 1:He ends up getting arrested yeah, immediately they find on the las vegas strip trying to shoot killing people.
Speaker 2:It gets worse, they worse. They find the gun. They find him. They bring him in. This asshole tells them hey, I thought he had a gun, so I went to go shoot. They say, well, why'd you shoot the woman too? I saw something shiny in her hand so I thought she had a gun too. They then play him the video. They say, sir, you're taking a step towards him and firing the gun. He goes I want my lawyer.
Speaker 1:You're going to jail. It's done, brother.
Speaker 2:They got so much to show first degree murder.
Speaker 1:I've seen at least three different angles of this video on the internet.
Speaker 2:Like you're going to jail buddy, they're going to burn you and I promise, if he has even the closest semblance of family members, you are three honey buns away from getting fucked up. No lie, like they're going to. They're going to send a message. You better I promise you it better not be a second cousin you get locked up in there with. Because I've seen it, for the nigga knew the nigga cousin and he beat a nigga up in prison for some shit that he was involved. It wasn't even killed a nigga either, he just was involved in like a robbery or something for the guy and he was just like oh, you robbed my, my partner, cousin, it's up. So uh, again, I just want to give condolences to those families. We gotta be careful out here, man, we some trash talkers, so we gotta be, we gotta be safe. Yeah, we gotta keep the blicky on us. You see why I be paranoid. You can see I didn't gas her out, she ain't got nothing left like I no, I just don't care.
Speaker 1:Like I'm still gonna be outside and I'm gonna live life and if I die, I die like that's my thing, like I'm not about to live my life, being paranoid and careful and safe, like that's just not who I am see how one of us got to be it now that that's the only way we're going to be safe out here I'm living fast and wild.
Speaker 2:That's my girl, All right. Well, I'm just going to wrap it up here with that horrible message to just live life.
Speaker 1:Okay, you might as well kill me now. Kill me now, kill me now.
Speaker 2:The ops will find you If I'm not going to live.
Speaker 1:Just kill me now. Kill me now.
Speaker 2:Just take it out, just just, just pull it out. Yeah, I don't, why am I here? I don't want to go out like finny. Finny, that's some lame shit right there. Finny got six to the chest.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's terrible, and then his old lady right next.
Speaker 2:That's a terrible way to go out, but like I'm not not gonna go out in fear of going out like that this, it just just to hear and I just we can wrap it up at this part right here Just to hear her voice. When she saw what was going, she was completely Like throwed. Like she was like oh my, what just happened.
Speaker 1:Everyone was shocked and confused.
Speaker 2:Could you just imagine that, though? If that was you, I would immediately be hysterical Like it would. Just I felt so bad then if I were to lose her life right after that. The worst man. I really hope they do bad things to you in there, Manny, no lie. Well, I want to thank y'all for listening to Talk. Fnf TV, this was our show. I want to, you know, let them know what they need to do.
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