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Nick Fuentas Divides MAGA, Charlamagne da God Upset About Double Standards with Sha'Carri Richardson, and Weapons was DUMB
We dive into the MAGA movement's internal civil war as Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens lead opposing factions in a battle that's exposing the financial connections behind conservative influencers. The escalating conflict reveals how the right wing is imploding amid questions about authenticity and loyalty.
• Nick Fuentes becoming persona non grata among the right despite his previous prominence
• Tucker Carlson and other conservative personalities attacking Fuentes after he exposed their connections
• Allegations about Fuentes being an FBI informant at January 6th and questions about his sexuality
• The apparent hypocrisy of the conservative movement's financial backing
The Sha'Carri Richardson airport incident exposes a troubling double standard in how society views violence when perpetrated by women versus men. We analyze her apology video and question whether it shows genuine accountability.
• Video evidence showing Richardson preventing her boyfriend from walking away during an argument
• Her apparent belief that men should not be allowed to "discipline" women regardless of circumstances
• The corporate-sounding apology that followed after likely sponsor pressure
• Comparing her situation to other Black female athletes who seem to be struggling publicly
We review the horror film "Weapons" and discuss why it fails to live up to critical acclaim despite some effective jump scares. The artistic ambiguity feels more like a lack of coherent storytelling than meaningful depth.
• The film's vague connection to school shootings that never pays off meaningfully
• Poor character development and unexplained supernatural elements
• Our fantasy recasting of the film with Black actors if Jordan Peele had directed it
Check us out on our interview with Chill to Chill on YouTube right now. Follow us on all social media at talkfnftv on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.
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Speaker 2:That's why you can just swing on no, you can't because, we live in the world where you can't just discipline women. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:I heard about this a little because you know they say nick is gay like but why do they say that?
Speaker 2:is there evidence? Like well, they just, they just don't like him, so they're calling him gay. Well, I hear people saying that if you are a millionaire, there should be no expectation of cooking or cleaning yeah, as a woman as as a mill, as I'm just like you agree, as a millionaire, 100 millionaire female woman yeah.
Speaker 1:So would you say there's a problem if a man said, as a millionaire, I'm not cleaning no diaper, I'm not changing no diapers or tendons and no babies tyla uh released a new ep and she sold uh less than 5 000 units the first week.
Speaker 2:My bitch went double lead yo.
Speaker 1:I don't like that, yeah and she was a gorgeous woman who continued to become more and more attractive. That's why she's famous, not because she's a great actress, not because she knocks it out with her performances.
Speaker 2:Nobody can tell you a Halle Berry monologue trying to like show, to show the girls that you gay too. Like that's what he looks, like he's a new gay like very much Atlanta, baby gay. We were in the theaters and there were parts that only I was laughing at. I'm the only one in the whole theater laughing and I'm like what make some noise y'all? What the f**k, like little baby might be falling off a little bit. Why would you get tattoos on your upper thighs like a bad b**ch?
Speaker 1:it's weird I know why he don't get it on his arms because he won't want to look like a thug or whatever.
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Speaker 1:They was right. They coming for your wife, your, your families. They trying to come after them.
Speaker 2:They're trying to destroy the nuclear family listen, this is how you want to start with with your propaganda my propaganda machine.
Speaker 1:Remember that dude told us we're gonna go right wing we are never gonna to do that, never.
Speaker 2:There's no amount of money that could make me forfeit my soul and be right wing. But no, there was a stud at work that I helped Crazy transition. Right, there was a stud. She was beautiful, by the way, gorgeous stud. She was like 6'7".
Speaker 1:It was insane, so she probably was on the wmba team on her way on her way there yeah, because my manager like was talking to her. She was like yeah, I'm next up, type shit oh, so she probably in college, then college stud, I don't know but she was in there with her girlfriend and her girlfriend was going on a trip.
Speaker 2:They was buying stuff. She was buying stuff for her girlfriend. So, um, we finish up, she's checking out. And then, um, I had heard her mention her say that her girlfriend's birthday is in november. We like clicked about it, blah, blah. I wrote down her girlfriend's number. I mean, um, her girlfriend's birthday, and I was like, when she was checking out, I was like I'll reach out to you around your girlfriend's birthday so we can pick out some gifts for her. And she was like, oh, thank you so much, like my. And then she put her hand out.
Speaker 2:Like a handshake yes, and then I dabbed her.
Speaker 1:You didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2:No, it was very. She literally did like this and I was like ha and I was like hold and I dabbed her like this. And I was like ha and I was like hold and I dabbed her. And then I got home and it haunted me the embarrassment.
Speaker 1:Yes, you had to go through it because I was like that was she.
Speaker 2:I don't know that was that's what haunted me no, okay, I don't think she, because I think maybe the trauma made it more dramatic in my mind, like maybe I didn't go as far back as I thought I did did you?
Speaker 1:did you do it like the way I'll be showing you to do it?
Speaker 2:how, what? No, I didn't, I didn't do all that. No, no but I did try to hook it.
Speaker 1:Oh you, oh you tried to crisp up as a new york nigga would so you like tried to like yes, I tried to like link that sick. You tried to link and build. Yes, that's nasty.
Speaker 2:And she literally like just I don't know if she well, yeah, she, put she her on her little thing that she filled out. But she literally like put, put her hand out for a regular handshake. And I dapped her cause she's a stud, that is a microaggression.
Speaker 1:I mean, her even putting her hand out is kind of weird though too.
Speaker 2:No, but she was shaking my hand because like I got her type shit, you know, like I was doing my job phenomenally well.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, if you're doing a solid, I can see. I can understand why you think a dap would be the appropriate response to that.
Speaker 2:Do you think that's what it was instead?
Speaker 1:Thank you. I think there's a, because you that are the ones that are really prickly. I can see her being cool with like nah, it's all right.
Speaker 2:I literally went home horrified.
Speaker 1:Maybe she was like worried about dapping you up. You know what I'm saying. That's why she just went out like straight with it, because she didn't want you to feel like you came off. And then when you initiated a dap she felt at home. Maybe she's going to buy like extra next time, maybe the dap is the thing that makes her return, or she could be like thinking you signaling her like a top to top signal and she may have felt like you're trying to give her like top to top energy oh, like, like, I'm trying to strap her down yeah, like let's, let's see, let's do battles of the straps.
Speaker 1:Like I take mine out, you take your I have experience let's see what.
Speaker 2:That's not something to brag about, though, and it's not with me, please no, no, not with my husband at all, not even a little bit y'all gonna go strap for strap thought you was trying to do. That was the signal it's me at the wnba games. That's the one you've been throwing the dildo that's why it's green, normal people.
Speaker 1:You seen the boy who did it were they arrested for it no, I, I didn't see that. Oh my goodness, he like Andy Milonakis.
Speaker 2:Of course, yeah, it had to be.
Speaker 1:He look like the quintessential incel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could only be a boy that look like that. That makes perfect sense. I wonder what that felt like they need to do a spoof documentary on SNL of him buying the dildo and, like him, proceeding to sneak it into the game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like that would be like a family guy cutaway. You think he just put it in his, in his junk but from the POV of the dildo would have like would have, like he could just stuff it in his pants off the regular, because he really isn't working with anything, so he could look like it was his own meat.
Speaker 2:How do we get here?
Speaker 1:Where are we? You brought up the straps.
Speaker 5:I mean no, you said y'all going strap for strap because I was giving top energy. I did, yeah, strap her down.
Speaker 2:I did say okay.
Speaker 1:I rewinded in my mind. That's your energy. I rewinded in my mind. Don't try to criticize me, because you nasty. All right let me just start the music.
Speaker 2:Very, this nigga is on one today. Hearing him yell that chills me.
Speaker 6:I know it's fat. Let me see that egg. Yes, she drop down and touch her toes like what a cash. You know it. Rock, a rock, a flame. I'm gonna go, I'm on it, olympian. She throw it back. I throw this pole at her like Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow In her neck. Fat, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. In and out. Fat, fat, fat, fat, fat. Make that ass clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, making it clap. One wreck, two wreck. Hey, fuck it up, g6. Just popped a half. I'm about to level up. We're in squad how I like it. Fine, shit, diamonds on my collar. I got chromos on my garment. What Shouted? No respect. Let me see that egg. What she dropped down there. Touch her toes like what a cash. I always like to think that a whole Metro had to find these boys. I want somebody to do a skit and find him.
Speaker 10:Metro's finding Travis Porter. He's got to go out of Atlanta.
Speaker 1:I want you to was a video Like all them looking dusty in Atlanta.
Speaker 6:Metro coming out, there finding them.
Speaker 4:They don't have to be necessarily, they can be like throwing dice. You know what I'm saying? Just bums.
Speaker 2:That's not great for them, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 7:If I were them, that'd be like throwing dice you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Just bums. Yeah, you know that's not great for them. I wouldn't do that if I were them.
Speaker 10:That'd be a horrible video. When I hear it like this, I always remember places I didn't really want to be.
Speaker 1:Like it wasn't that the music was bad. I always do a synonymous Like I didn't really want to be at the place. I was, when I was little, like this beat, this sound A good time. Most of the time I wasn't doing the thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 9:Check this out. Baby girl grooving, licking shorty. Booty time. I wasn't doing the thing I wanted to do check this out, baby girl groove.
Speaker 6:Look at shout it all right.
Speaker 1:That album got a lot of hate, though. A lot of people was talking nate about it, man, I thought it was crazy. All right, we're back. Man, they thought we were just gonna call it up, just a hundred.
Speaker 2:They said that they thought we was done at a hundred they were very wrong because we about to come at y'all next foot on next for the next hundred and y'all need to check out our interview that we did with chill to chill on youtube right now.
Speaker 1:We did. I think it was really fun interview.
Speaker 2:It was fun.
Speaker 1:We did our thing, so you got to check us out on that.
Speaker 2:We was on this shit longer than we be on our shit. Yeah, I mean, we've done shows that have been two hours and 30 minutes before.
Speaker 3:So, two hours and 40 minutes.
Speaker 1:But it was really good. I think we did a really good job. I think we showed how phenomenal of a duo we are Teamwork. Phenomenal of a duo, we are teamwork. All right, you're now listening to talk fnf tv. I'm your host absurd rhetoric. I'm with my lovely and amazing and gorgeous co-host, miss farrah. Hi guys, I have to get my arm out. Child, you're stuck yeah all right, we got to get into a lot of stuff. Man, there's a mega civil war going.
Speaker 2:And this has been his favorite thing going on. He has been consuming this content on both sides of the same side all week.
Speaker 1:So let us know what's going on with the civil war. I just think it's fascinating just to see how, like with Trump just doing such a bullcrap job right now, they're just imploding on themselves. A bullcrap job right now, they're just imploding on themselves. So we already talked about this before. We had a conversation in which Candace Owens sat down with Nick Fuentes and pretty much all hell broke loose out between their two camps. And now there's been this push to where now Nick Fuentes is 100% persona non grata amongst the right. Everybody's just talking trash about him. Candace sat down with Tucker Carlson. He called him a little gay little boy from Chicago. Who is this gay little kid from Chicago talking all this stuff? Because he exposed that Tucker's dad was CIA.
Speaker 2:And he actually is.
Speaker 1:Tucker said he didn't know. This is what Tucker claimed that he didn't know that his dad was CIA until after he died and people came up to him and said that his dad was intelligence how did other people know your dad was CIA then? Well, cause they was, they're barred intelligence, okay. So they went in and revealed it to him.
Speaker 2:I thought like his uncles and them cause it was coming up being like your daddy was a spy.
Speaker 1:He didn't. He did say, like how did this guy know that my dad was an intelligence? But it was pretty obvious if you look at what the stuff his dad was doing, the interviews he was having, the connections he had in the industry, was the fact. That's why he told tucker to get into media, because he had already had a link to what his job was intelligence not.
Speaker 2:Tucker caulson is a nepo baby oh for sure, 100%.
Speaker 1:All of these, and that's what he's been going off and exposing, like he's been, like he's literally showing all the receipts, he's went for the jugular and he is attacking all of the notable people of the right, like how has his, how have his numbers been doing while he's been doing this?
Speaker 1:well, he's been banned from like a lot of the sites for the most part. Right now he does most of his stuff off of rumble but, like the fascinating thing about him is when he was getting kicked off all the sites years ago, he created his own streaming site called cozy tv where he would have people funneled in and they would just come in just to watch nick fuentes like yell at the jews for like hours. So now he's on rumble and he's getting like being able to. He's making bread now he's he's caked up.
Speaker 1:But I want to just play some of this because, like I I said my our good friend Chuck the Cuck. He is shook right now. He is scared because essentially Nick is taking away from his base he the people who Charlie tries to. When I say pretend, I just mean he's finessing them. He knows what they want to hear, he knows what, what the talking points he needs to spew to them, but he doesn't really believe it because he's a paid actor like you can get Charlie Kirk at the highest bid if you need to. He's an easy fodder.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, if you want him to say something for you loose morals, yeah you just pass him a couple thousand dollars stands on nothing on his own, he'll say whatever you say, he's a Russian ass, that you call him whatever you want. But I just want to play this video that was from his stream that he deleted just because of this question. The whole stream that he did he deleted because one person called and asked him this question. So let me see if I can pull this.
Speaker 3:Nathaniel. Nathaniel, thank you so much for being a member. What's on your mind, hi?
Speaker 5:Charlie, as a TPUSA chapter founder and president, I've seen firsthand how the tide is turning among young conservatives. Founder and president, I've seen firsthand how the tide is turning among young conservatives. I say if you truly believe in open debate, in the marketplace of ideas, will you ever be willing to debate Nick Fuentes, or will you wait until his movement forces you to adopt his talking points, as we've seen already?
Speaker 3:You know it's funny. I personally do not give a platform to bad faith actors and I had a hole open about this. And and, by the way, a really important thing is not to lie and to not bear false testimony. It's finally answer your question, you know. You said oh, you know, I want to have a question about turning point events and you obviously lied about. Your question doesn't surprise me, because you have deceit, but you know what? Honestly, I'm asked that question all the time. You have deceit trolls and I don't.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I'm asked that question all the time. You have deceit. I don't platform trolls. And I don't platform the biggest troll of all time and I don't discuss people or I don't debate with people that are not good faith actors. Charlie, that is you. They can keep on yelling at how successful we are and our big events and well over a thousand employees, but a lot of jealousy out there. We build, they complain, we succeed, we win. They blame the Jews, thank you.
Speaker 1:Charlie is so full of crap yo. He knows that he is full of crap. You're purchased by all of these same people, and this is what question and comment and fill.
Speaker 12:The problem with Charlie Kirk kirk is I think he's insincere, I think he's arrogant, he's not polite, but I think that when he goes and does these college debates, question comes in and like a magic eight ball, you know the perfect conservative argument comes out. But here's the conceit, here's the game. The question goes out and charlie kirk will basically categorize that and file it into a particular line of argument, like so, for example, get asked a question about Gaza. He'll say, well, do you believe Israel has a right to exist? And once that question goes out, it goes down a pre-recorded series of questions and answers, you know.
Speaker 12:So it's like how can I take any question and comment and filter that, file that into a track, a predetermined track of questions, and I say this and you say that until we get to a predetermined destination. And I actually don't think that's very honest, I don't think it's terribly impressive. And I think that at Cambridge, when you actually have super intelligent kids debating him, then you see the conceit and you could see Charlie Kirk had nothing there Because once again, that was the predetermined track. But when you debate Dean Withers, who's getting like a degree in economics, when you debate a kid from Cambridge. Then you see him licking his wounds on these shows and saying well, you know, dean Withers is not a normal college kid. He's getting a degree in economics. It's like isn't that what a college kid is?
Speaker 4:It's not what they do is get degrees, and so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You always get degrees. So that's what I'm saying. Nick is pulling the wool that or not even the wool, he's just pulling like he's exposing the right, essentially showing that they're not these individuals that are America first, they aren't the people that they claim to be, and that they're all purchased and in the hands of Israel, like literally. He's been going down this whole track of exposing Tucker Carlson. He's been him and Candace Owens have been going across the timeline for probably the last five days now when she's basically asked him to come back onto the show. They want to go back into the debate. They've been releasing tons of messages to each other. Then the whole word got out from even Milo is involved in this now. You remember Milo, the one to be with Kanye West and all that? Yeah, milo is involved in this. Now. You remember Milo, the one to be with Kanye West and all them? Yeah, milo is in this now. And now they're trying to spread this idea that Nick is a fag, because Nick was there.
Speaker 2:So now all of them are like turning on Nick.
Speaker 1:Yep. Everybody's trying to push this narrative, trying to say Nick is a fag. They've been pushing out documents. He even released documents where they talked to the feds. They talked to the feds, they tried to talk to him. He didn't release any information. He didn't cooperate with the authority. That's what he's saying. He's saying I didn't cooperate with any of the authorities. All of this stuff about me being a fed because this is why this is their argument, why he's a fed. He was at january 6th. Not only was he at january 6th, he was on video telling people we need to raid the capitol, like he's literally on tape saying this is our city, this is our country, we need to go back in the capital is he not in?
Speaker 1:jail. That was. That's why they're saying he's a fed, because he didn't go to jail. He might be a fed. They were saying he didn't, he didn't go to jail at all for that.
Speaker 2:He's like a prominent figure especially now yeah, but was he then like did he have a platform?
Speaker 1:then he started in like 2017 is when he really kind of started and coming up, because he was with this other group. I forgot what I was just reading about them. They were like the right side or whatever media, and he started off with them. It only lasts for about a year and he just started pushing his own content where he was just like, essentially, the stick is the jews are evil and israel's trying to.
Speaker 2:So he had a platform when january 6th happened oh, for sure, yeah so he should have been made an example of oh, but this is that's why it's a little weird but he said he didn't cooperate, so I don't know if there was anybody then he should have been made an example of.
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree. That is enough inciting of violence for me yeah, I feel like you would, because I listen to where they show.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I have it here in the, in the, my thumbnails or whatever, but they, they were basically playing it out where he was out there telling everybody this is I want to play it now. Let me play it up, because this, this stuff, like I said, this is some fascinating stuff that's going on and it's just interesting to see them crumble internally because I mean, like I said, they're all purchased. This is like what goes on on the left all the time when you find out this individual was working with this billionaire and whatnot so this is what it goes right here, and I'll read the community note because milo had posted it.
Speaker 1:This is what I'm not much. I don't read what milo said about this video. So he says no charges because nick is one of the 30 or so confidential informants working for the FBI on January 6th to entrap Trump voters. His victims were tortured for years. At least five are dead. I don't think that's true, but he's just making stuff up. I'll read. I'll read that in a minute. But right here, that's inciting a riot. Keep moving towards the Capitol and here we are taking the Capitol. Yeah, that's inciting a riot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's encouraging them to continue doing that.
Speaker 10:Keep marching until we're let Never relax. Yeah, break down the barriers and disregard the police.
Speaker 2:You hear that? Yeah, the Capitol belongs to us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Capitol belongs to us, okay. So, uh, milo did get community noted. So it says milo claimed that nick fuentes was an fbi informant on january 6th is false. The department of justice inspector 2023 reports that no undercover fbi agents were present and the informants were not authorized to participate. Meaning there was informants, they just weren't authorized to participate. This is where it gets fishy, though, because all the people that he tries to say their purchase, like he went on this rant about peter teal and jd vance and tucker carlson and all of them and how they're all like basically in bed working for the agenda.
Speaker 1:That is palantar which is like you know, privat privatized B613.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You've been watching Scandal, so now you're a little more familiar with their capable of.
Speaker 2:OK, that's scary, they're.
Speaker 1:B613. Yeah, that's what they are, and so he's basically saying that they're all caught. But there's been people who work with Nick that said Nick been asking money from Peter Till in the past and Peter Till basically been asking money from peter till in the past and peter till basically dubbed him. But somebody has to be funding it. I don't know who's doing it right now and I can't put an idea of exactly who to place it on. It does feel like some rupert murdoch type shit. Yeah, it might be like it feels like some black rock.
Speaker 1:Yeah like it feels like rupert murdoch or somebody, because rupert murdoch is somebody who has been heavily critical of the Jewish people, so in Israel, when it's when it's convenient for him, he has been so to me. I'm trying to figure out who it could be. But that's like the kind of the stories that have been going. But that's not the only thing they've been saying about Nick. So there was another article this guy he put out. Let me bring it up here. Like I said, this stuff is crazy. I heard about this a little bit because you know they say Nick is gay like.
Speaker 2:But why do they say that? Is there evidence like?
Speaker 1:well, or they just, they just don't like him, so they're calling him gay well, there was a story where Nick was possibly him and Destiny. You know, destiny the streamer because, apparently him and Destiny got together allegedly and hooked up on some like yeah, we're on the far opposite sides of each other, but we're going to do some broke back content type shit together. That's kind of like-. Like for OF they didn't put it out, but they were basically saying he was sucking Destiny's dick and shit like that. Allegedly.
Speaker 2:Those were some of the allegations, yeah, that they were sucking the judge's dick. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:I'm saying but this dude named Chris Burnett, so he's kind of like an independent journalist, Mm-hmm. He put this article that said top 50 Nick Fuentes pedophile scandals.
Speaker 2:I saw that and when I saw that I was like this can't be real, because how is there enough to be a top 50?
Speaker 1:Right, how is there enough to be a top?
Speaker 2:50. Right, that's like. So you didn't did like 75 of them. He's the best of the best. This is like he needs to be behind bars. If there's this much evidence that somebody can gather on the internet, y'all need to investigate, open an investigation so the grouper thing is essentially like what his group is named that's the people who follow nick are the groupers or the gorpers or someone whatever I don't like that name that's.
Speaker 1:That's creepy groupers, it's gorpers or something like that yeah, I think it's gorpers that's what, yeah, but in this article.
Speaker 1:essentially it alleges and it goes over a few things in regards to nick, basically saying that he's creating an environment where young men are being exposed and kind of exploited in a way to older gay men. So there'll be younger guys that are in there trying to find who they are and in a way, you know, get exploited. It's kind of like groomed, I guess, is a better word. Yeah, it's an opportunity for them to get groomed in this kind of chats that he is kind of creating. And he creates like this, like this he refers to it as his death.
Speaker 1:uh, rape, death or kill, loyalty or yeah yeah basically, that's the kind of lord he wants rape, death or kill, like you would do that kind of stuff for him. And he's openly admitted, like he has clips on here where he openly admits like no, this is a cult, like my people are. This is what we are about this is no. He needs to be investigated, I mean he's a scary figure Like there's folks talking about. Oh, he could potentially be the next leader of the free world because of how he has reached the hearts and minds of so many white men in.
Speaker 1:America, like especially young white men in America, and he feels as though he's speaking to them.
Speaker 2:And he even went on that where he said like I'm speaking for the weird white kids in their parents basement right now. That's me. Yeah, when you go out and you say that, you're speaking for these people, then they're definitely going to be behind you, because nobody has ever taken up like for them at all, not in the way that he's done it.
Speaker 1:No, like you have, like the charlie kirks and stuff like that, but they always have this. I'm I can't speak on this subject now or I'm going to have this talking point that is ultra political or ultra like down the narrow line of whatever side that we're on. He's exposing that Like. He's just like no, you guys are compromised, y'all are all working for a force that is trying to destroy what is right. And also the thing about Nick Nick is not that legitimate, because if you're looking at what I'm looking at, me and him can see the same thing. I honestly believe we talked about it. It's the powers that be that are at hand. It's not necessarily the Jews. It just so happens that some of them are Jewish. The problem he has with it I think Nick has with it is that he believes that the system should always be working for the betterment of the white race let's get back to the, to the war, the beef I mean that was part of it where I was saying okay, uh, the beef.
Speaker 1:That was going on.
Speaker 2:So then, is there anything else like what else has been? Who else is throwing shade?
Speaker 1:so it's been milo. Charlie kirk has kind of done his way. Candace, who else? Then? Like I said, there were some people who worked with him that I told you. They exposed him about him and peter till's I mean, there's there's a lot of stuff that's been going on because how is it the top 50?
Speaker 2:let's, let's get.
Speaker 1:Let's just read the top five in this list so they brought up an article that said new pedophilia allegations surfaced against nick fuentes and groupers, in which they went down a line of several years ago. It was my first report on the notice of pandering of pedophiles from Nick Fuentes and his American First group. At the time he said it was an American First event Prominently featured confirmed pedophiles and it was a public knowledge that Fuentes had willingly allowed gay men access to underage fans. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:How is he not like I'm so confused? But he admits, like you you said this is part of the cult, this he, he's, so he's admitted this, not that he's doing the gay stuff or whatever, but he's talking about.
Speaker 1:He has kind of waved it off, as there's guys and they're flirting and there's consensual relationships going on but that are homosexual, yeah but they're not, uh, which is so weird?
Speaker 2:that he's the conservative gay guy like that Right. But does he not condemn all things homosexual on his platform In a way?
Speaker 1:because he remember one time he went on this rant where he talked about how he was going to marry a woman because he has to, because he wants to reproduce and all this other stuff. So he does have like this weird like he might really be gay. This is what it is. This is what it is. Remember how I explained peter till's gayness to you? Yeah, I said he loves white men so much he thinks of white men being so superior. That is what he wants and that's how he also expresses his homosexuality is by spewing white supremacist ideology, because it it does the same thing it gets. It brings the white boys to the yard. That's his milkshake, his white supremacist talking points he wants to bring the white boys to the yard. So what are you going to?
Speaker 1:say. What is he also going to say? He's going to tell them hey, man, they're trying to hold you back. Yeah, the colored people, you know the jews, they're trying to hold you down. Come here and bring that white schlong my way it's ruined milkshake for me I'm just telling you that's what nick is doing. It's really a co-op for him to get pounded on Like that's his mission.
Speaker 2:He's just trying to empower, that's just so that's so much work when you could just get on Grindr Like no, he wants a certain kind of white guy.
Speaker 1:He wants a white guy that has, like you know, prestige. You know family means he wants this guy to be a secret. We got to keep this hush-hush when you beat his head into the pavement. You know what I'm saying Off the back shots.
Speaker 1:Moving on Next topic. This is what Nick wants to do and this is why the right is not going to win, because y'all aren't going to go for the jugular, y'all going to call him gay, but you're not going to expose what he really wants to bring white boys to his yard. Nick fuentes, come on to the show, big dog. Let's have a conversation. Let's discuss your gay demons. You know if you see them as such. Yeah, zeemans, you know what I mean, and we're here to protect you, man. That's what I feel like you're. I feel like that I'd be.
Speaker 2:I'd be doing the little zingers that'd be falling on deaf ears. You didn't hear that.
Speaker 1:I feel like that was gold, that was solid. I hope y'all enjoyed it. They did, they did. You see, what I had put right here was is Nick a fed or yeah, yeah. Oh, man. But it's true though, man, they're so insincere, even with the sorority.
Speaker 2:You see, oh man, but it's true though. Men are so insincere, even with the sorority, they usually them all posting the sorority girls, now all the people on the right. Yeah, that's been um rush. Talk has been a thing for a couple years now on tiktok.
Speaker 1:Usually they're all whores, usually the right they call them all whores. They say, oh, look at this, look at these whores doing all of this stuff, going to college, trying to, you know, slut don't the white women go to college to find husbands and not use their degrees for careers traditionally?
Speaker 1:not traditionally. They're claiming now, if you listen to charlie kirk, all these women want to go in here and actually try to learn something and he's disgusted by it. So, lord, it's just funny for them to say they tell women don't go to college, but they tell them to go to college for the fine man but, a sorority is quite literally finding your femininity in a way no like it's networking and like sisterhood yeah. So I mean like that's not has anything to do with getting your missus degree.
Speaker 1:So not really, it's just funny, just to see how they pick and choose when they use their narratives and then the white women just fall for that. That's who you. I went back and forth with one of them white girls about it, cause she's talking about how she's an athlete in like the university of Tennessee or something like that. And she said I'm still. I'm still not a liberal. And I said the conservatives will call you a slut by by next week. And then all of her little goonies started attacking. I'm like bro, she's not gonna fuck you. All right, let's uh stay into the, since I was just talking about a female athlete a little bit. Let's stay into that round.
Speaker 2:We got to talk about the taming of the stud shikari richardson man. What is going on, shikari?
Speaker 1:richardson is not a stud. She was a stud when she used to speak she, she went both ways.
Speaker 2:Fair just because you're bisexual doesn't mean you're a stud yeah, but she was going both ways.
Speaker 1:She was identifying Topley.
Speaker 2:She was identifying Topley is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard.
Speaker 1:She's, she's up there with she.
Speaker 2:She just happens to be lean and muscular because she runs track.
Speaker 1:But she was trying to put you know she had the strap on her yo when she was running. That's why she was losing at the beginning, because she was running with the strap on one yo when she was running. That's why she was losing at the beginning, Because she was running with the strap on her.
Speaker 2:One too many straps this show. I feel like it's the strap off. One too many. I feel like I support women that put their hands on men. See, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Let's see if Charlamagne has a response to that.
Speaker 1:Because Charlamagne went off on the Breakfast Club, so I'm going to play it the fact that she acknowledged her behavior but, I, just want the record to show.
Speaker 10:it is a double standard, because if a man did something like that at the airport and then turned around and just did a little video like that, y'all would be dragging him to hell right now.
Speaker 2:This is what we're playing the basic-ass bullshit Charlamagne is saying of is a fucking double standard.
Speaker 8:We don't know what she might have lost behind the scenes. You have no idea. There was a video that came out. You saw it on video. We don't know.
Speaker 3:If Lauren don't know then, somebody lying.
Speaker 2:Charlamagne didn't say anything for real.
Speaker 6:Her sponsorship would have jumped out the window and said we had no longer work with her.
Speaker 1:But can we acknowledge that there is a double standard?
Speaker 8:There is a double standard because I will say, when I saw the headline last weekend for those of you guys who don't know what happened, just really quickly.
Speaker 6:And it was a video.
Speaker 8:Yes, so Sha'Carri and her boyfriend, christian Coleman, who's a sprinter. They were in an airport and the authorities in the airport were called because they said oh, there's a disturbance between these two people. In the video that was released after the story came out, you see Sha'Carri, he's trying to get around her and almost walk away from her. But she came out. You see uh shakari, he's trying to like get around her and almost like walk away from her, but she's like she's trying to do the right thing and like she throws something.
Speaker 1:They said that it was headphones that she threw, um, so of course, the police report was taken and she you know she, so you know the video of it came out right when she of her getting arrested. Did you see that?
Speaker 2:um, yeah, and she was like. I have videos of him putting his hands on me, if you need that, which I thought was crazy yo, she's a sicko.
Speaker 1:Yo, she quite literally is a sicko. I'm gonna play a little bit just so I can get people to hear, because she said a lot worse like she. You can just tell that's my man, you. You can tell and way her mindset operates in this. You can tell that, the way her mindset operates and the way that she talked about this, that she feels that there was no world in which her behavior should be equated to this. So I'm going to play.
Speaker 13:This is a position that Christian Coleman put me into okay, Because he's a coward and I don't want anything to do with him at this point. Going forward, my name is Shakaia Richardson. I have no problem with letting you know who I am. I haven't put my hands on him. We had an argument. I will be honest about that argument and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 12:I just want to get your side.
Speaker 13:Okay, absolutely, you can ask him whatever you need to ask him. But yeah, you're a coward. Look at the arrogance that she has having her conversation.
Speaker 10:Thank you so much. She's an aritstic and I'm going to do my part, so you can do your best.
Speaker 1:I can do everything. I'm under arrest, right now?
Speaker 13:What am I under arrest for, christian? Are you serious right now? Listen to her. I didn't assault him, though we have video cameras. I literally was having a. We were having an argument.
Speaker 2:I'm not resisting. I'm watching her assault him right now.
Speaker 12:Christian are you serious? Right now, I'm watching her assault him right now. Christian.
Speaker 10:He doesn't get a safe. But I understand, we were arguing. But, I understand entirely. We were arguing.
Speaker 13:Okay, I'm not going to resist, but I'm telling you that we were arguing. I didn't assault him, I didn't do anything wrong, but the fact that your guys are doing this to me and he's the man in the situation, I'm just going to comply.
Speaker 2:You see that the fact that you guys are doing this to me and he's the man, he's the one that's supposed to be getting arrested, this is the problematic view that these women have in these situations.
Speaker 1:They think that their femininity and their womanhood absolves them of any kind of accountability in a situation that she instigated. It should no, it shouldn't. I have no problem saying it should. If that's the case, then he could have disciplined her.
Speaker 2:Look at her face. Look at her face.
Speaker 1:What does disciplined mean to you If he See, look at you. He doesn't have to be physical, he doesn't have to look at you, it doesn't have to be physical he doesn't have to beat her, that's why you need to clarify.
Speaker 2:Anything could have been disciplined, whatever he felt you need to clarify what do you specifically mean by discipline?
Speaker 1:in the world that what you're creating and what you are not. Fight back, nigga you should ever.
Speaker 2:That's what he's saying who me?
Speaker 1:yeah, no, she had to fight back. But you know if your dog, when you have with your dog, your dog trying, sometimes you gotta hey how do you?
Speaker 2:hey, hey, you're, you're, you're, willfully? I'm not here to avoid the actual question that I'm asking you.
Speaker 1:We don't live in a world where you can discipline women so at that taste that you need to understand as a woman.
Speaker 2:You can't just swing on niggas that's why you can just swing on, no you can't, because we live in the world where you can't just discipline women niggas, that's why you? Can just swing on. No, you can't, because we live in the world where you can't just discipline women. No, if you those two things, that's why you gotta take the opportunity to beat that nigga's ass today they're gonna throw your ass in the jail cell.
Speaker 1:Throw your ass in the cell like they did her country ass, but you need to be smarter and do it in private.
Speaker 2:She's fucking spiraling. Beat that nigga in the bedroom she is not in the airport girl are you listening to me? Whoop that nigga ass in the bedroom like. I don't even understand how you could feel like in any way due to, due to, due to this christmas, spread the baby oil on on the on the floor. That was abuse on the floor while he's showering and then whoop his ass with the belt while he's slipping and sliding.
Speaker 1:Regina King should have went to jail for that. I want you to hear her apology video on this.
Speaker 13:Y'all, it's Sha'Carri. It's Sha'Carri, it's your girl.
Speaker 2:The man beater.
Speaker 13:A lot of self-reflection, self-reflection. Nike wrote this I understanding of not only putting myself in a compromised situation, but somebody that I have a deep care and appreciation for I thought he was a coward.
Speaker 13:Holding myself accountable, I see myself. I'm taking this time to not only see myself, but get myself a certain level of help that, overall, is going to reflect who I truly am in my heart and my spirit, and not allowing this moment, but accepting this moment to be more. And so my only thing is I want to be more, not just for myself, for my family, for my fans and overly appreciate y'all supporting me and showing up and even holding me accountable to being my best self.
Speaker 13:So, more than anything, I refuse to love my mom.
Speaker 1:It's pretty obvious they didn't. They came to her and told her Abraham, we're going to take your money away if you don't conduct yourself the proper way now in regards to this. She doesn't have any fear, though. In this situation, I don't think. It doesn't seem like she does. Even with that, it doesn't seem like she does like.
Speaker 2:Even with that, like it doesn't feel like she said hey, it's your girl like to. To start out the domestic violence video.
Speaker 1:Like again I've said on this show before and a little bit in, jest not domestic violence.
Speaker 2:If you hit a man, you give him pow, pows. No, it's definitely the reason why, again, I've said on this show before female I'm kidding y'all. Y'all know I'm kidding. I'm gonna continue. No, they don't. I'm gonna continue, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:I I am kidding I I have said this in somewhat of jest but in all seriousness with the two women violence is not anywhere close to being the same as violence from a man directed from a man. But when you do that as a woman in public and he can't just grab, like just imagine he just would have grabbed her, not hurt her, slapped her, but physically subdued her and neutralized her in a way that she could no longer put that bitch in a full Nelson something, anything. Imagine he do that in public. That looks crazy, especially he's he's much bigger.
Speaker 2:He's much bigger than her. She's your size.
Speaker 1:So when you, as a woman, conduct yourself like that in front of people in the public, you deserve to go to jail, just like Skai Jackson ass needed to go to jail. She's beating up on her little thug ass boyfriend. Y'all bitches need to go to jail.
Speaker 1:It's just being honest. Y'all bitches need to go to jail. You can't be acting like this in public. Sorry, you do that in private and then he might be able to he might, you know, control you up, rough you up a little bit, not hurt you, but if you start the violence, you can't get mad at a man for neutralizing you, right? And, chris man, you gotta take advantage of this is the biggest publicity you're gonna get in a while we talked. Well, I warned you about this stud like I stopped calling her a stud.
Speaker 2:Why?
Speaker 1:because she's literally not a stud she got some she a little studly. She's not studly. I feel like she gives off some studly vibes why what?
Speaker 2:what about her? Give studly other than she's toned?
Speaker 1:just the way that she kind of carried herself early on when she first came, all right stupid bullshit, stupid misogynistic bullshit is what he's saying right now. So I'm she's not studly, do you feel like she should lose some sponsorships from this?
Speaker 2:probably yes. Do I want her to? No, because I don't think women should be held accountable for their actions ever I said the sentence that I said clearly right like why do you?
Speaker 1:want to vote, then like why do why women? Why should women be able to vote? That they can't be held accountable? What do you mean, like, if you're above the law, then why do you get the chance to vote for the law?
Speaker 2:Because we are above the law.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that just made perfect sense in your head.
Speaker 2:What does it matter for you? I'm fucking with y'all 100% to me.
Speaker 1:I feel like Charlamagne is doing a little bit of whining in regards to that, but there has to be, because there's never women that do this.
Speaker 2:I don't know why we even played the fucking Charlamagne clip. All he said was this is a double standard, which of course it is. Every time a woman puts her hands on a man, it's a double standard. It's going to be perceived differently as when a man put his hands on a woman. That's the most basic bullshit.
Speaker 1:So that's but this is interesting, with her like reacting like this, because I don't know, if you notice, there's been a quite a few black athlete, black women athletes. That's been spiraling who else? Serena, she looking crazy. She just lost some weight nah her skin.
Speaker 2:Look crazy, that picture she does look like she's been like bleaching or whatever, and then nomi osaka, who we already know.
Speaker 1:She's just a bag of emotions, but she seems like it's been getting worse for her.
Speaker 2:She lost that match to the Canadian player.
Speaker 1:And they remember she did an interview a while back saying that she wasn't really mentally in it and that the only thing that was kind of making her happy was her kid, her daughter, and you know she took a lot of hell from that. She got a lot of criticism about that, People trying to say that she ruined her life for somebody.
Speaker 2:And trying to say like the baby and being with him is a lot of issues during that match too. She just seemed like out of it, like there was one point for a while she just gave up.
Speaker 1:It was one time it was a tweet that I had to go really viral a long time before we even met where I had described because she was like discussing how she didn't want to do like the press afterwards after matches that was a big thing and I had described it as that's like a work meeting at your job, where this isn't a part of your job per se, but the meetings and discussing what's going on. That's the same thing. And I got a whole bunch of people who was trying to say I was wrong and that was the dumbest thing in the world, even though I made perfect sense and counted every everything they said. But I seen this sports psychiatrist that had a video that was discussing her and about what kind of really may be going on and it kind of started with her beating Serena. So I'm gonna play this part right here of him breaking his I saw that you saw that too.
Speaker 1:I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 11:If you watch her matches and she goes into flight very quickly and then she shuts down. For Naomi Osaka, her experience on the court when she won the US Open in 2018, she took the cues that were coming really at the referee for penalizing her idol, serena Williams, but you could tell by her reaction that her physiology took it as though she was to blame for her idol losing and ever since she doesn't fight for very long, if you watch her matches and she goes in the fight very quickly and then she shuts down and then that starts off the court too. Once she understands what's really beneath it, it's not a thinking issue you're saying. It's the awareness of the fight-or-flight.
Speaker 1:It's all about helping her body, her nervous system, feel safe again and I thought that was like really interesting to kind of think about, and it's like you can even go a little deeper where it's almost like it's not, like she don't have a killer instinct with it no, she doesn't she.
Speaker 2:She like the the clips that I saw from the ending of that match. She didn't fight or try, she literally just stopped.
Speaker 1:Like going through the motions in a way.
Speaker 2:It wasn't going through. No, she literally stopped Like you need to see this. It was the last point and it could go like either way it was. If the I forget her name, I'm so sorry she's African she's. If the I forget her name, I'm so sorry she's African, she's from Canada. The Canadian player Like it was Naomi like hit the ball, then she hit it back and then Naomi did not even move to try to do her job on the court, like she literally just gave up and let her win. It was. I've never seen a player or an athlete just literally get on their knees and be like it's yours now.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's like one of those things where her success brought too much attention and now she feels like if I don't rise to the occasion, I won't have the responsibility of being the best.
Speaker 2:I don't know, because when she doesn't win, she's still scrutinized and that's still, I'm sure, for her just as emotionally taxing, if not more.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's a lot to go with it because she did have so much success so early. Yeah, and it's weird because I can't imagine as a guy, having an emotional breakdown like that from beating somebody. I feel like that's like an only woman experience that you can have, because I think y'all have like a very trying to think of your relationships that y'all have with your elders when y'all really actually like them or really care about your mentors like somebody you look up to and more than that, you revere this individual yeah this person like Beyonce is a god to women.
Speaker 1:You can't there isn't like somebody who can come up in the industry and say I want to be better and surpass Beyonce and that taken as a compliment, and I think that can happen sometimes in male sports, but it's an understanding like that your position is always up for grabs. It don't seem like that with women's sports, like it seems like there's a lot more necessary camaraderie. That has to happen and that what kind of what other women's sport like, even with female basketball.
Speaker 2:Look at it like that like I was gonna say what other women's sport do people even give a fuck about? To even defend a title?
Speaker 1:like I'm just even when you think about what happened with the last Olympics and they not putting Caitlin Clark in there for the older Diana Taurasi, who was about to retire the next year, and everything like she retired a year after that.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that they didn't put her in for that reason it seems like there's a.
Speaker 1:They actually did a whole documentary that just came out that talked about it and how they described this being her team, even this being her team, even though she had largely aged out of being a real competitive per se.
Speaker 2:In regards to being, I think stuff like that does a dis uh injustice to the wmba, because I feel like the all-star game or whatever it was would have been olympics olympics. It would have the. The women's game would have had more eyes on it if caitlin clark was was involved in it.
Speaker 1:That was what the big discussion was around it when that happened. But, like I said, it just seems like Weird politics. Man, I don't want to make it seem like it's solely a women thing, because it does happen from time to time with male politics, with the male leagues and the male game. But a lot of that is tied to how big these contracts are. You know what I mean. Their contracts granted, granted they may be big for their salary cap there aren't as big to where you can't feel like you cut this person or move on and do what you think is better for the immediate future of the game. So I just I feel bad for naomi.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people misunderstand her yeah, I think she needs to recalibrate a little bit yeah, I think she gotta just fall back.
Speaker 1:I understand that, like you have like a livelihood, but I just don't think she wants to be great. I don't think she has what it mentally requires to weather the storm of being great. I think that's something that we don't talk about enough with athletes yeah, and do you think that's something that she can get over?
Speaker 1:like do you think that she can fortify herself mentally and come back and I don't know that she's still the same person that she wants to be, though, because, like she seems like a child like I don't think your, your brain is gonna mostly that's gonna be your main priority over everything. Yeah no, I think that that plays a part in it. But I just think it's hard when you just lose that, that willingness to want to destroy your opponent, especially with that. All right, you see what's going on with plat boy max.
Speaker 2:He had a little baby on the stream um no, I saw him dancing a lot and then them niggas being like yo, why you dancing so much?
Speaker 1:which is crazy yeah to the beat, to his own beat. That was funny, but it was.
Speaker 2:I feel like you, you take it away from the vibe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did say something weird where it was like and his engineer I think that's who that was, that light skin guy. They were trying to say like you're making a mockery of it with your dancing and so now it lowers the value of it like I was like y'all got the stupidest politics ever, yeah negro politics are insane.
Speaker 2:That's not even. That's just hood, nigga shit.
Speaker 1:Hood negro politics Hold on, I got this. So, niggas, don't see you rapping. Let's get a discussion. Okay, I'll listen.
Speaker 10:Okay.
Speaker 4:Okay. Crazy man, so you gotta put money down. Wait, explain to me.
Speaker 10:I'm trying to understand what you saying you understand Everything else I've been talking about the whole day.
Speaker 4:Okay, so you saying, you saying niggas got to break bread with the stream for you to rap.
Speaker 10:Nah, you're going to bust the stream down. Wait, yeah, we split. Okay, so we split the stream. Revenue, revenue. For you to rap, yeah, not for me to rap. We doing that anyway For me to wrap, we don't know anyway, oh, oh you, just you just. And wow.
Speaker 4:Okay, let's do it. Then he just say he has a ghostwriter on the stream. Now look, no, I gotta see how much the stream a after and then talk. We gonna talk, yeah, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 2:See how much the stream, a afternoon talk we gonna talk.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're gonna talk, so I don't know until I code days after. I'm not gonna lie. Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1:They just scream a scam like oh yeah, scam like oh he is finessing, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, because why would you have to give him? You paid him whatever.
Speaker 10:You paid him to get him on the stream in the first place, or if he's not, even you know you come and do something for somebody on the screen, yeah, and when they try to work you, you gotta show him like, hey, I'm a real businessman, this is what I do. You know? Finesse, that's finesse. Talk. When I land, they can start talking to you and I appreciate you. Dead ass by giving me this hospitality. That's finesse 101.
Speaker 1:This is where Black Boy Max fucked up. You shouldn't have went to this nigga house. You should have rented a place and told that nigga to meet you. You can't be doing a self-imposed away game. That's insane. You at this nigga crib, he just tried to extort you for half of your stream, in front of everybody.
Speaker 2:He has the goal and the audacity OD of a nigga.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, because Platboy Max had been talking about how he wanted to stop streaming as much because he wanted to be more respected in the rap game. Why do you want to be respected by these niggas? These is not the niggas you want to be respected by these niggas? These is not the niggas you want to be respected by, because they respect you.
Speaker 2:Getting finessed, that is exactly what they they want he be around all the like hood. Nigga rappers I need. I need black boy max to maybe do like a artsy rapper maxwell this ain't it do do, do hang out with with some of the more artsy, like art school type rapper niggas the hood. Niggas are not your lane big dog gonna is your lane like gonna would have been way better that's more your speed, because you kind of give like young green. What do they say? Wet around the mouth, wet.
Speaker 1:Wet around the ears, I think.
Speaker 2:Wet around the ears? Yeah, like he gives that when you he wet behind the ears. That's what it is Wet behind the ears. Yes. We all around the place. We was fucked up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to be careful around these types, bro. Like I didn't got jacked up by these fucking Atlanta niggas man, they caught me at the bank, have me out there cash and fake checks for him.
Speaker 2:these niggas is scandalous and deceitful yeah, that's exactly what they want to do manipulative and little baby has, motivated by the devil little baby has no and good intentions for you at all and this nigga been having his thighs out all over the place. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1:just crop tops and thighs out and and his hair has been a little weird you sucking, you sucking dick now. You can't do that because the nigga gonna want to fight me.
Speaker 2:I said that with a question mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the nigga gonna want to fight me because you said that. Y'all heard the question mark. They gonna swing off on me because you asking the nigga do he suck dick? That's crazy. That was an I suck dick outfit. Some of the stuff he been wearing is insane. I think Lil. Some of the stuff he's been wearing is insane. Okay, I think little baby, I think it's. We can go to say this little baby might be falling off a little bit.
Speaker 2:Why would you get tattoos on your upper thighs like a bad bitch?
Speaker 1:it's weird I know why he don't get it on his arms because he won't want to look like a thug or whatever.
Speaker 2:He said that before so you want to get them on your thighs so you can look like a baddie instead like what?
Speaker 1:I think he's just in a weird place where he doesn't know, like, how he wants to continue being famous and what that looks like, because he never really wanted to be the rapper, no, he just wanted money and this was the fastest way he thought he's gonna be able to get to it you need to go link up with naz and learn from him and how to make some investments.
Speaker 2:Learn how to do some investments and then just go be a person. You don't have to be famous like, just go be a human with money.
Speaker 1:It just looks like he just kind of made the decision at this point now where he's kind of in the entertainment thing, but it it's weird seeing him when he's not hot, like the whole time. He don't even have an entertainment personality I mean, yeah, especially the only thing that made him interested when he first came out was he had fucking drug tick every time he did his interviews yeah, that shit used to be like something crazy to look at.
Speaker 1:But now the drug tick ain't there. He just still got to slow talk yeah, he's just not interesting.
Speaker 2:Like you just need to be a rich nigga, travel, go get some experiences, go like experience life outside of atlanta, outside of the united states you don't think he's done that and learn some.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't seem like it I think that's exactly what it looks like with all of the outfits he's been wearing. That's exactly. We didn't. We got some experience no yes, it doesn't it.
Speaker 2:It doesn't look like that no it does this nigga is wearing? Is this nigga is wearing cut off jeans and a pink crop top. That is not fashion that you get from traveling the world. That is literally what you get from going to Bulldogs in Atlanta. That's exactly what these sick niggas, as soon as the niggas- go out in the city.
Speaker 1:That's the first thing they learn about.
Speaker 2:That's in the city, that's in his city.
Speaker 1:I said they leave the city. That's the first thing they learn about.
Speaker 2:Bro, you do not need to leave it. If he wasn't from Atlanta then maybe, but that nigga he's getting that from here. He doesn't seem well traveled, well versed in anything. He's at Paris fashion week like every year yeah, but like that doesn't translate to him being cultured, saying like having any substance of any sort after the fact.
Speaker 1:I think what you're failing to realize is that is his result of the culture he's absorbing, is what he's doing now.
Speaker 2:Well, he's doing it incorrectly.
Speaker 1:That's the sum of it.
Speaker 2:That outfit was absolutely insane. He looked like Timmy Turner. It was wild. Didn't he have pink shoes on too? I didn't see his shoes. I think he had pink shoes on too. The over the knee cut off, jean short and the crop top. That's just a t-shirt. That's pink. He looks like a baby, gay Little gay, little gayby.
Speaker 2:Like he looks like a gay that doesn't even know how to be fly yet. But you're just trying to like, show the, show the girls that you gay too. Like that's what he looks like. He's a new gay. Like very much atlanta baby gay.
Speaker 1:But he's had a few of them because he's had, like you said, the crop top one. Then he had the pink hat. See, look at, the shoes are pink.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the little pink shoes on there, it's wild that he very much atlanta nigga like but that's a sweet atlanta nigga though that looks like the, the young, the young niggas in atlanta now, like that's how they be wearing these though these pants is crazy, they be wearing them. Pants that nigga got flowers on his pants do you be what I'd be watching the the clark atlanta like um. Would they be gay Atlanta? Outfit of the day.
Speaker 1:They be gay at the Clark Atlanta.
Speaker 2:They be wearing them? Embroidered jeans.
Speaker 1:He got it on his calf too. What the? Tattoo.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't even see that. I only saw the upper the calf one is fine.
Speaker 1:That's sick too. Any leg tattoos is odd. And then he wearing the Daisy Dukes to show them off tattoos is odd.
Speaker 2:And then he wearing, like the, the daisy dukes to show him off because he got an upper upper knee tattoo. So then he has to wear shorts that are this nigga has to wear daisy dukes to show his tattoo. You made the wrong move. At least get a cut out in a jean or something I don't know.
Speaker 1:Let's move on, because you remember the episode of boom dogs? Like little baby is like literally going through that whole episode of yeah when uh thugnificent, thugnificent and gangsta liches met yeah, and they. They made squirts and tank tops with with crossbody bags yeah, because I'm seeing this picture him with this little green romper on yo, he has a dress on that's a romper you said you do you think?
Speaker 2:um? You remember a couple years ago when he was at that all-white party and he would diddy with the romper on.
Speaker 1:That's sick he was getting turned out how you would diddy with the romper on he was getting turned out.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. All right, what's next?
Speaker 1:little baby then fell off. Uh, let's talk about another flopping artist so far. I don't like that. It is. This is my favorite man. They they've really been doing tyler tyler really bad and I don't appreciate it in the least bit tyler uh released a new ep and she sold uh less than 5 000 units the first week.
Speaker 2:My bitch went double lead. Yo I don't like that yeah, that's insane. But also I'm a fan of tyla's and I didn't even know she dropped the ep. Well, when was this ep? Was this the last thing that she just dropped, or is it something new? They said the first weeks, that was push to start is the one that push to start was on. I think it's called wwp oh, I didn't even know she released this and I'm a fan of Tyler's. It's only four tracks, though.
Speaker 1:They said that shit went 3.7 units. You know that's crazy, Especially for somebody who's being pitched as a global superstar.
Speaker 2:This was too close of a release to her last album, which literally just came out, I like but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Though ep, you still post a clear double digits your first week, but there was a woman who went viral discussing why she hasn't been able to connect with an american audience.
Speaker 8:I'm gonna play this right here units in the first week of its release in the united states. What's interesting to me is why, despite all of the heavy marketing around tyler in the us market, she hasn't quite connected to the audience yet what, what?
Speaker 7:what do you mean? You can't figure out why tyler isn't successful in the black american market. What do you mean? Mean, are our memories that short? Because I am not even a tyla fan, I I don't think I could pick a song out of thin air that she's played. I don't.
Speaker 7:I don't know her music at all, but what I do know, niggas no water is that they tried to use the word colored and black americans were like absolutely fucking not. And south africans were like we'll get over it. And black americans were like it's our music that you're trying to play and you're trying to market her to us. We said no, okay, and then we stuck to that.
Speaker 2:Tyler was never trying to well, it was a little bit like of an r&b moment. But when I listened to not this ep I don't know if this ep was mostly r&b or not, I can't speak to it. Her last album was I'm a piano. It's that south african music. So she wasn't. She wasn't making american music trying to market to american people. She was's south african music, so she wasn't. She wasn't making american music trying to market to american people. She was making south african music trying to market to american people.
Speaker 1:That's different so you're trying to say that the reason why she didn't connect is the music? Maybe I don't think so, because they did the gunna song.
Speaker 2:They did a whole bunch of what was the gunna she did a remix with a song she did with gunna okay, the only song really that like went for her was water that's not true.
Speaker 1:She had other songs that did really well. The song with her and gunna went did really well, I don't remember it. She had a lot of songs that connected. It wasn't until a little bit of that you can say the whole color thing happened. They've been trying to push her as an American act. I don't think they've done it in the the best way because they haven't really picked. What are they trying to do with her? Are they trying to make her a pop star? Are they trying to make her make the music that she's originally from poppy? So they're just trying to highlight those elements that are attracted to pop stars. Like what are they? What are they really trying to do with her?
Speaker 2:and I don't think. That's why it's connected I think it's the latter. I think they're trying to make like a poppy version of the music that the, the african music that she has been making, and I think that they're trying to market her and make her like that it girl. I think it hasn't felt genuine at all.
Speaker 1:She popped up huge, like machine behind her, but the water song sounded like an R&B song too. That's why it didn't. It had that like very specific, it did sound like that from somebody who is an American person and they're hearing that music. They don't have no idea what she's from or where she's from.
Speaker 2:That's OK, well, I listen to African music, so it sounded African to me because it had like a very like African baseline drum on it. I was saying that it doesn't. It doesn't seem genuine Her trajectory, it. She had the one song that obviously was had like a giant machine behind it and then after that, I to me I don't think she had anything near close to water at all when water came out and after, like, when she started performing that song and when she started doing the um the, the little wine dance that she be doing, I literally was scrolling through TikTok and people were like making edits of her, like she was a K-pop star, like I hadn't seen anything like that for someone who was not a K-pop person.
Speaker 2:They were, they were going absolutely insane over her and then it just dropped out of nowhere. I don't know what happened. I think it's because she didn't follow up with a song. That was that that hit us anywhere as close to what water did push to start. That's a cute song, but it didn't do. What water did I mean? I don't think you can never do.
Speaker 1:What that did, though water was, was a classic. Not a classic, but it was a I almost you can say a smash hit, almost what A few months after it came out.
Speaker 2:I just don't think you could come out with a smash hit follow up with Okay, okay, okay, and you did like it wasn't a genuine, like uptick. I don't think it's like you came out. You came out up here.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's feasible to ever have an uptick once your song does that.
Speaker 2:I think it. It is, but maybe I just don't know what Tyler's history is before, like maybe she was grinding for mad long before, but I don't. I don't think that's the case long before, but I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's the case. Yeah, water has 333 million views on youtube, just to get an idea of what it is.
Speaker 2:That's just from one place and that I think that might be one of the things like it's, it hasn't. Like she, she gives very much industry plant and people on the internet are very nowadays weary of that, like they don't like that shit. I don't care, as long as the music is good, as it's good. I like tyla's music. I love african music. I think the, I think the the songs that she's putting out are good, but I think people don't mess with her because, one, it's not genuine and two, the whole thing like it's, it's, it's not connecting.
Speaker 1:I think one of the issues that her team messed up on was not directing her being favorable with black women.
Speaker 1:I think that would have been something that would have been more, something they could have relied on, base wise, that I think that they kind of ran from because they didn't want her to be attached to that. They wanted her to be like this pop pop star. They wanted her to transcend all of that other stuff. But when you come to America and your song sounds like that, like I said, that's why I was trying to say, just because you know the history of it, contemporary listeners, average listeners, hear that and they hear R&B song.
Speaker 2:I don't think you hear that bass in that drum and you think r&b immediately, I promise you. But we're gonna.
Speaker 1:We're gonna have a difference of of opinion when it comes to music when you're selling to the masses here in america and I mean you're trying to be a pop star, that's what they're hearing. They're going to see that it's one of those kind of r&b listen to song and the fact that she didn't follow up and continue on that I think threw a lot of people off, and then just her sentiments and of herself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying no, I'm saying, and then the fact that she didn't follow up no, but you're saying she need to have another water. I'm saying she needed to have something that sounded like that. It don't have to be do as big, but you have to stay into.
Speaker 1:A't come off favorable to a lot of women, especially black women in this country, like she doesn't operate in a manner that is conducive and makes them comfortable like we talked about how many people had a problem with her telling shawty to hold on to the to the award they had a problem with that because she's a cute little pretty girl.
Speaker 1:But that's intimidating to people when you don't, when you don't favor them and you don't show them the attention, and then you have things that make them jealous and envious of you like they were literally just mad because she's pretty like that's, that's it, yeah, you're 100 right and so like, because at least even with rihanna rihanna was very pretty too, and they were trying to figure out stuff with her in regards to what her sound was going to be, but she also had that, like I'm a, I'm a girl's girl she had branding.
Speaker 2:She had a genuine rise to fame when, when she was at, her label admitted she was not on their list of priorities at all. Anne-marie was Like they'll tell you that story over and over again. And then, after she put out a single or two, then that's when they started paying more attention to her, because the public already had let the record label know that this is somebody that we like and we're paying attention to. She had already started garnering a genuine fan base, and then the label put the machine behind her. It's the opposite with tyla.
Speaker 1:What I'm what I'm talking about is the words you're using, they that she rolled this wave. I'm talking about what kind of wave that she rolled. She rode a wave that was identified as women first, as girl first, black girl first, or whatever, and I don't think they did that with tyler, and because they didn't do that like that is what pushed rihanna. Rihanna's not that talented of an artist.
Speaker 2:You know that she's not as talented.
Speaker 1:She's not no yeah, what got her going is the fact that she had this girl's girl mentality and brand and that's where it started with that unfaithful song. That unfaithful song got I disagree, umbrella was part of that too, because that's when she started dating Chris Brown. They didn't I don't think they understood what was making Rihanna popular and they just tried to copy her elements with Tyler and it's just not working right now and it's not going to work because I think she's a lot prettier than rihanna at the same same part of her career rihanna's first.
Speaker 2:I think they're. They're doing the same thing. Rihanna's first album was very like. Elephant man was on this album, like I didn't even realize this was. This was. Vibes Cartel was on this album. This was a very Caribbean album. And then her second album was very pop. So it might be the same thing. Rihanna's first album critically acclaimed wise, didn't like it, didn't do numbers.
Speaker 1:I know that that's what I'm saying. Her first album didn't. Her second album didn't they're, they're on the same track. Most people say that her first go out wasn't good. Rihanna's first go out wasn't a good showing. That's why she was like you said not even on the top priority.
Speaker 2:She was on the back burner.
Speaker 1:yeah, she wasn't a priority, that second album, when they started making her a girl's girl. That's what took her off and I think that's what they forgot. That's what they need to do with Tyler.
Speaker 2:I understand what you're saying. I'm saying that they did that because the first album garnered genuine, like attention and fan base. So then they were like, oh, let's pay attention to this girl that we were going to put on the back burner, Because this one album that we thought was going to do garbage did a little bit more and she actually has people paying attention to her. That's what I was saying. I understand what you're saying. All right.
Speaker 1:So we went to go see weapons on on matinee. Is that matinee or is that? Is that considered matinee?
Speaker 2:what time we went, oh I don't know I just know we went on six dollar tuesdays. Yeah, we went to go see uh weapons josh brolin.
Speaker 1:what's the other girl's name? The one who played Silver Surfer, julia Gardner? Yeah. Julia Gardner, she has such a white name. That's like a white professional name. We went and saw that movie and that movie was ass. Yo, I'm just not even going to hold you, I'm not going to even there's going to be a lot of spoilers.
Speaker 2:I changed my opinion, you feel.
Speaker 1:I think it was fine. That movie felt like a Netflix movie. I'm going to be honest with you. That felt like something we should not have been in the movie theaters listening to at all.
Speaker 2:It did feel a little bit like streaming, but I don't think it was as bad as I initially thought it was.
Speaker 1:What made you change your mind so far? Because it wasn't like the movie got better.
Speaker 2:No, I just thought about it more, like replayed it in my mind a little bit and I was like it's not. I was expecting more nuance and I was expecting something a little bit more intense because it was so critically acclaimed. But I don't, I wouldn't go as far as saying it was ass.
Speaker 1:I think that's a little much well now I'm gonna definitely put that out there, so I'll give a little breakdown of the plot. It's basically about these kids who wake up at 217, which doesn't mean it doesn't explain anything in the movie, like when they even bring it up. They all leave the house 217 and they end up running somewhere. You don't really know where they run to and you learn that all these kids was in the same classroom.
Speaker 2:All but one kid went missing and nobody knows where these kids went to and then the the movie um continues like after all, the kids disappear and it changes um povs from a bunch of people that are involved in in the situation or adjacent to the situation yeah, so you follow jul Julia Gardner's character who's a teacher, who was a teacher of the classroom, josh Brolin, who was a parent to one of the kids in the classroom.
Speaker 1:Then there's an officer I forgot his name, who he was in the movie. He was an officer, who was Paul Paul who was messing with the teacher, and then there was a junkie. Those are like the main characters in the movie and then there was a junkie.
Speaker 1:Those are like the main characters in the movie and the kid and Aunt Gladys, and then the witch, yeah, so they basically go over the stuff, everybody blaming the teacher for what's going on. You end up finding out through the junkies' thievery that there's something more going on afoot in the house with the little boy. And once they show the little boy, and once they showed the little boy section, you realize like his parents got finessed into letting this old woman, who they believe to be a family member, into the house and then she like basically sucked their energy from the family and then stole all the kids for I guess, to steal their energy too. And then they had the little boy feeding everybody soup like I wanted. That's just that's that's that's very loose.
Speaker 2:Um, so the let's just go from let's, let's talk about each character, because I think that will probably be, uh, the best way to break it down. Since it was, it was like the pov from each character. So it's who does it start with? It starts with the teacher. She's a full alcoholic. I thought she was gonna be like a little sweetheart blah, blah, blah. No, she's an alcoholic, she's a whore, she's a cheater. And then also, not only is she that, but she's fucked up, because the cop who? Um, what's the cop's name? Paul, yeah. So the cop who's played by, um, aiden, er, oh, sound caucasian, aaron, caucasian, aiden, caucasian, that's what his last name gives, right? So he's like recovery, he's a recovering alcoholic, and then she makes him drink and then takes advantage of him, and then well, he gives her aid, so I mean he, he was, he got checked out after the first stab.
Speaker 2:He was fine. So after the second stab, you would think he didn't get.
Speaker 1:You do know it takes a couple weeks, months, right okay?
Speaker 2:he had the finger wrapped up so I thought he got checked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that means he just cleared, so um, he couldn't get checked because they were lying about it, remember.
Speaker 2:Lying about what.
Speaker 1:About it happening. He couldn't get checked because they were trying to cover it up him and the chief.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the chief asked him at the end, did he get checked out? And then they switched to him in the car and his finger's wrapped up.
Speaker 1:So I thought he went and got checked, because I assumed that he didn't wrap his finger on his own, and the way that they told the story. That happened the same day, so, yeah, he went in there with dirty dick so then, um, after the teacher, who's pov?
Speaker 2:is it? After that, the cop right? No, the uh parent oh yeah, and he was like hellbent on finding his son. He was the only one. I was like why are all these parents not more concerned?
Speaker 1:another reason why I say this movie was stupid. What he did was what any other officer should have did. He just made a straight line.
Speaker 2:He triangulated from like.
Speaker 8:He triangulated it.
Speaker 2:Well, only with two people. But he drew little lines, tried to figure out where the kids were going. Common sense shit, what the cops should have been doing. Who was after that?
Speaker 2:he like drew little lines, tried to figure out where the kids were going and um, yeah, what what the cops should have been doing? Who was after that? The cop, and then it was the no, the the cop which that's when it got funny for me because him getting stabbed with the aids needle twice, but that happened during the junkies yes, but still, but still Twice is hilarious.
Speaker 2:That's sick. Yeah, this movie was. I thought it was funny. We were in the theaters and there were parts that only I was laughing at. I'm the only one in the whole theater laughing and I'm like make some noise y'all. What the fuck? They had another stupid part during Josh Brolin's part where they put a gun over top of a house. Yeah, that was the one thing. There were multiple things. It was like an.
Speaker 2:AK-47. It was a whole assault rifle and it had the time where the children ran out to 17 on the gun. So then he was. It was in the beginning of the movie. So then we were like, ok, this might be like a school shooting situation and like all the kids are gone.
Speaker 1:because like it might, I thought it might be a symbolism yeah, that's what I thought they were doing symbolism of what happens when violence and whatnot is allowed to happen at a school, and apparently, that's.
Speaker 2:That has nothing to it had nothing to do with school shootings. Um, that was the thing that I hated the most, because it just felt cheap and like you threw that in there to represent the parkland shootings.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what the heavy spoilers believed that they were doing yeah because it was on february 17th, that's when all the kids ran out.
Speaker 2:But to like put an imaginary gun above a house during a dream is such a cheap way to to try to artistically let us know, huh, especially you don't pay it off like guns had nothing to do with this movie.
Speaker 2:It was like magic shit. It pissed me off. That was the one thing that like. That's my main complaint. My second main complaint is aunt gladys herself should have had her own pov. I think that would have filled in a lot of holes for us and I think for the two of us with, like lack of backstory, lack of motivation, we have no idea why on Gladys wanted to do this, other than obviously like youth, like you know, like during the movie they'll have, like during the second act, where they learned about this legend of something that can't even do, that.
Speaker 2:Remember, like more than halfway through the movie I turned to you and I was like I'm going to need some answers now. They didn't do. I hate going more than halfway through the movie without answers. Give me lore, give me a foundation of something. Let me know what the protagonist's motivations are, why they're doing what they're doing. It's cheap as fuck to me when they're just evil for the sake of being evil. Also, the protagonist was whack as fuck. I thought it was. It might have been like a cult. I thought it might have transformed into some nuanced symbolism of a school shootings. It wasn't that. It was just the creepy old bitch. Like it was so cheap to me. Honestly, I wouldn't say like that's why I said I still don't think it was as good as everyone is making it seem, but I wouldn't say it's ass that nigga josh brolin tried to act like this movie was changing horror forever.
Speaker 2:It was not it's not that, shit was me I mean I I do think concept wise it's kind of giving like pied piper. So it's not a new concept altogether, but it is a little bit different than what we usually get. Horror-wise, I think the little jump scares were great.
Speaker 1:I was scared okay, they did a good job with the All white women are scary With clown faces?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I didn't know about that either, because sometimes it looked like clown face and other times she doesn't know how to do her makeup.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like that's what I mean. It did. It seemed like she just had through line, through this movie it seemed like she just had too light foundation and her, her lipstick was a little blurred, but then sometimes like she looked fully like a clown. Yeah, so I, I don't, I don't, we don't know what that was like. I haven't made any connections. Maybe they were trying to do like a a it moment was.
Speaker 1:It was this a it prequel? No, it just felt like it was trying to do something but never committed to anything. So it felt really empty and just like really dumb and I the fact that people were saying this is a 10 out of 10 movie I'm like you're fucking stupid you know, piss me off the principal.
Speaker 2:so the principal's name is andrew, played by benedict wong the. The aunt gladys comes to his door and he's's kind of feeling a little iffy about it and the husband's like oh, come on in, motherfucker, this is creepy. Do you not see that? This is creepy?
Speaker 1:I mean at least in centers, the Asian let him in, not the white man.
Speaker 2:I felt so bad for Alex's point of view because I was like he's just a baby.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was traumatized, young and young and is never going to be the same after no, I like he's, his parents are like mush forever, and I hated that part too, where they tried to like explain how he was able to like they were able to finesse the police through the experience, and I'm looking to myself so this nigga, y'all just okay, with the dad barely talking during the interview well, the police decided to cover it up, remember what part was it that they said they was gonna cover it up?
Speaker 1:in the beginning, the girl who's telling the story was saying that they were trying to ignore it.
Speaker 2:No, the girl in the beginning of the story said that the police could not solve this, so they covered it up. And you would never hear this about this. You would never hear about this outside of this town, but if you come here, niggas will tell you exactly what happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah but I mean that doesn't necessarily it wasn't a cover-up from the town that's exactly what she said. The police covered it up, not from the town, though the people. I'm saying the police covered it up and what I'm saying is it don't matter if we talk about people in the town, because everybody in town know what's going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but for the outside the police like people, people. We didn't even get no experience of that.
Speaker 1:People outside this town had no idea what happened because but you don't even get that and which doesn't even make sense where this is modern day. How do you tell people, how do you hide the fact that 17 kids ran away from home in modern day, 2025?
Speaker 2:You can't, there's no way. You literally cannot, but that's, and they had all on ring cameras and shit. Yeah, that's the premise that they set for for the show. That's why I was for the movie. That's what I don't love when movies um, let you interpret things on your own like I, I feel like there's, there's like you can do that a little bit, but I feel like this movie uh heavily relied on artistic interpretation it was definitely like yo coming in with vibes yeah, like you just just vibe out.
Speaker 2:I think that's why a lot of y'all liked it, because y'all could just vibe out and make your own little headcanon while you was watching the movie yeah, and people really like doing that and it it makes for a great experience after like listening to everyone's um interpretations and what they easter eggs and stuff that they got out of it.
Speaker 1:But like during the movie I was just a little bit frustrated yo, if I'm paying for an individual sit-down movie, nigga I need. I don't want vibes, nigga, give me that on the streaming.
Speaker 2:I need a story, nigga it's an artistic choice that you can make on your own. Some people aren't gonna like it. Some people are gonna like it more. I liked it middle in the middle. He likes it less, so um, rumor around this movie is that Jordan Peele wanted this movie real, real bad and he lost the bidding war for it and fired his team as a result of losing the bidding war. So I thought it would be fun for us to recast the movie as Jordan Peele and replace everybody with somebody black do we get to change like the storyline a little bit?
Speaker 2:too. No, we're, we're. I just said, we're just recasting it as if we were jordan peele and all I did was ask could we do something else?
Speaker 1:and you said no.
Speaker 2:So then I said boo, nope, boob so let's start with um justine, the teacher. Who's played it? Yeah, who plays I?
Speaker 1:had a girl from blackish. What's the girl? What to start with a y her name? I wanted yara to play uh I thought uh, julia gardner's character I thought she was a little young.
Speaker 2:So I put journey smollett for that and I think she has kind of proven herself to be a little bit like she. She can play different roles. I loved her lovecraft country. She can play in something a little bit scary, so I like that or I also put um ayo a debris. She's a little bit younger, but I would like what was she? In um the bear and a bunch, a bunch of other shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah I guess like she's a she's extremely talented actress and then I I think she would do well in this, in this like type of role.
Speaker 1:I feel like the other girl you said was she comes off Journey Smollett comes off like a little bit too older than what they were trying to get. This to me felt like somebody who was in like their first five years of teaching yeah, and I think that would have been fine for me.
Speaker 2:We would just change it up a little bit and made her a little bit older. So next is Paulul, played by aiden aaron rick. It just sounds like you know, nazism, I don't know. Um, so the cop. I changed the gender because I was like the cop probably was the person with the most comedy infused into his role. So I put Regina Hall.
Speaker 1:You did a gender bent.
Speaker 2:Yep, I put Regina Hall for the cop, because wouldn't that be hilarious? I want to see Regina. Hall get stabbed in the face with a lesbian Because they were fucking. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever, they can be lesbians, but I think Regina Hall would be hilarious in that type of role. Who do you have for um?
Speaker 1:replacing paul, so I'm pulling up his name right here. It was the guy who played hawk man and, yeah, eldris hodge I think his name is eldris hodge okay, that's why I had him playing the cop.
Speaker 1:uh, I thought because the cop I'd like to me in my mind, I think. I think those two together would look good on camera her and Paul, I mean well, her and Yari. I think that would be good on camera together, since they were supposed to be like an off-again couple and I felt like he just plays a more stronger role for that. He kind of comes with a little bit of a dweeb. I like him to kind of be more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the cop was a dweeb and he was um, he was immoral and he was fucked up and he was kind of he hated his life, he was miserable, so I think you can play a good version of that, yeah and I think it would be more interesting to see regina hall play that. So then, next we have archer, which is the dad um played by josh brolin. I had blair underwood for for this, maybe I haven't seen blair in a while, so that's why I put him yeah, I had idris, that's fine, yeah so the next we have andrew benedict wong the principal.
Speaker 2:So I had winston duke. What was his name? Mboko mbaku mbaku from Black Panther? Or what's his name, Giancarlo.
Speaker 1:Giancarlo Esposito yes, he's a huge player.
Speaker 2:I could see him as a principal, and then I also would really love to have seen him with that black throw up and blood all over his face, running down the street with the big eyes like that. I want to. I want to see him in that type of role, so I think that would have been interesting. Who's your person for?
Speaker 1:I didn't have, I didn't cast him. Okay, only cast the four people and then the kid, okay.
Speaker 2:So then the kid? I didn't have anybody for the kid because child actors like who? Child actors like who knows, I don't know children, so skip that. Did you have somebody for that?
Speaker 1:I was thinking he may be a little too old now, but it was the boy who played the black kid on Shameless. I thought he was really old.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, he's definitely too old now, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think at his age.
Speaker 2:when he was that age though, yeah, I don't know any child actors that are young enough to have played this kid.
Speaker 1:That's what made me think of it.
Speaker 2:I skipped this one, aunt Gladys.
Speaker 1:I put Whoopi Goldberg, I put the. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:That would have been interesting, though, right, I want to see Whoopi Goldberg play a witch, an evil witch.
Speaker 1:I just had the grandma from Black-ish. I thought she would have done a good job on that one.
Speaker 9:No no, no.
Speaker 2:I don't like that.
Speaker 1:That's my least favorite pick of yours. I think that's the same vein.
Speaker 2:And then for the crackhead James, played by Austin Abrams, I put Caleb McLallin, the kid from Stranger Things, the black kid from Stranger Things.
Speaker 1:Nah, I don't see him doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Stranger things has proved that he's he's a good actor and he's a little bit dynamic so I think he's more of a positive role, kind of yeah, but we don't have to keep. We don't have to typecast him into the jolly kid I'm just explaining why.
Speaker 1:Why does it? Don't agree? Yeah, but I, I had childish gambino with a beard dirty beard for my junkie oh, okay, I thought that I don't?
Speaker 2:I think that'd be very jordan peelish yeah, okay, so that's how we would cast it if we casted it, if we casted weapons as jordan peel I.
Speaker 1:I had an idea for what the story should have been, but we don't got to do it. Now, you women disgust me, yo, because y'all don't have any consistency and y'all go out here and complain and whine and don't even watch the full clips or nothing, so I'm gonna play. Uh, just david justice. He was a former mlb player, formerly married to hallie berry, and this is what the clip that went from All Smoke Podcast, which was him and Matt Barnes. This is the clip that had everybody in their feelings talking about Halle Berry, his marriage with her and why it ended we probably could have made it if I knew about therapy.
Speaker 9:If we knew about therapy, we probably could have made it. We never had any major issues like that. It's just that I, because I was young and had only been in honestly one real relationship before her, my knowledge and my understanding, my wisdom around relationships just wasn't vast. So I'm looking at my mom and I'm a Midwest guy, so in my mind I'm thinking a wife at that time should cook, clean, you know. And then I'm thinking, ok, if we have kids, you know, is this the woman I want to have kids with and build a family with?
Speaker 5:And at that time, as a young guy she don't cook, don't clean don't really seem like motherly.
Speaker 9:And then we start having issues. Listen, we never that. I'll. Well, I'll say say this we never had any issues about other women, other men. I mean, like I was never tripping when I was tripping, one time when she oh no, I got one time I was tripping oh, at one time, because I didn't understand it when, uh, we were out to lunch in la.
Speaker 9:Now, my mom from cincinnati man, I ain't even in LA seen like that and she see an actor that she worked with one time and he came in hey, hey, kissed him on the lips, oh, what we doing around here.
Speaker 1:Was he European or American? So that was the clip that got everybody feeling you know in their feelings or whatnot, and shitting on David Justice, justice. One thing I don't think it's fair people try to incorrectly align him with the individual she claimed abused her, and that wasn't him he did have. Who was it? They never revealed it was an actor, though apparently it's like you can probably look it up and find out who it is, but most people have been hush hush on it because it's all like allegations and alleged, but he did have a restraining order again.
Speaker 1:She did have a restraining order against him in the midst of their divorce, but it was just because she said he kept showing up trying to get his stuff. That's what the report said about it To me, though I want to ask a question, because I kept hearing all of these women say this, and I want to know do you think this is a sensible response?
Speaker 2:I hear people saying that if you are a millionaire, there should be no expectation of cooking or cleaning yeah, as a woman as as a million, as I'm just like you, agree, as a millionaire, 100 millionaire female woman yeah.
Speaker 1:So would you say there's a problem if a man said, as a millionaire, I'm not cleaning no diaper, I'm not changing no diapers, attendance and no babies. I'm just asking, would you feel like that's a problem?
Speaker 2:I mean that that would be the, that would be the, the equation, the equivalent. But the a baby, I think is different. I think the equivalent would be like a man saying like I'm not fixing this shit on my own, you know, that would be the equivalent. You think you? I feel like that would be, because a child. No, it's not Because it's a child. I think a child is a completely different thing from chores.
Speaker 1:I would disagree, but you can keep on.
Speaker 2:You have?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do have chores that doesn't mean that they're work.
Speaker 8:That's absolutely crazy to me.
Speaker 2:But I think a child is a completely different set of priorities, emotions, everything that comes with it, than like chores, like laundry and cooking and cleaning. I think I would equate that um, like type of woman's work to like mowing the lawn, um, fixing things in the house.
Speaker 1:So if a millionaire man was like I'm not mowing no goddamn lawn, I'm hiring a, a landscaper, that's the same thing as a woman being like I'm hiring a chef I think that it is the same thing in regards to it's a chore that has to be done, it's something that has to get done for it, and it doesn't necessarily is the scope of your relationship. It doesn't define your relationship like if my father never changed my diaper, that doesn't stop me and him from having a relationship and my mom never changed my diaper personally, just like if my mom never cleaned up for my dad and had pays my.
Speaker 1:That doesn't mean she doesn't love or care about or respect him. That's what I mean by that. So it's funny how a lot of these women on the internet were just complaining about nelly and him not tending to whatever his child uh needs or regards to when he has a mother that can do that. Yeah now it's a oh, it makes perfect sense with Halle Berry, and a lot of y'all are wrong about this flat out too, because y'all don't understand. Timelines exist like. Do people really think Halle Berry was just always Halle?
Speaker 2:Berry. Uh, obviously she wasn't always Halle Berry. But I also think that people weren't reacting to the full clip. They were reacting to the just the little part of him saying that she wasn't always Halle Berry. But I also think that people weren't reacting to the full clip. They were reacting to the just the little part of him saying that she wasn't motherly and she wasn't cooking and cleaning. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause when you listen to the full thing, um, he admittedly says that it has. He was wrong in thinking the way that he was thinking back then. Um, he says that if they went to therapy they would have been fine. Says that if they went to therapy they would have been fine. Um, and he obviously seems like he has a different view now, being older and more mature than he did then. And he also says in the full clip that he? Um was basing his thoughts of what a mother and what a wife should be from what his mother and what the women around him were. And he grew up southern and in a very like traditional women around him and they were not Halle Berry with like careers, like this on their way up in Hollywood but he didn't even know that she was gonna be that yeah, he didn't, but still she was an actress.
Speaker 2:Uh, he didn't think she was gonna crash and fucking burn like he was hoping for her downfall. I would hope not, so, um, she was obviously if, if, what her dreams and motivations were, and if they panned out, then she was gonna end up being what she was gonna be so to have. Those expectations of her were unfair, which is what he said in the interview, but people don't like to get full context before they um, scream on the internet. Y'all love screaming on the internet and making y'all opinions hurt on the internet.
Speaker 1:So bad Like to me, though, the sentiment that I have a problem with is the fact that people feel like he shouldn't been able to want that, the fact that he is one. He was one of the most successful basketball excuse me, baseball players at the time. You can want that from someone that's not, but that's what. What people were trying to argue was that that was something wrong for him to even want to, to get from somebody, not even just from just her, which, again, like I said, she wasn't. In 1993, when they got together was when she started being in some of the bigger movies that she was in, and she was in a lead in none of those movies she was was just the like folks forget. Halle Berry was just the pretty girl in a movie. She was not known for her acting skills.
Speaker 1:She was just extremely stunning and she was a gorgeous woman who continued to become more and more attractive. That's why she's famous, not because she's a great actress, not because she knocks it out with her performances. Nobody can tell you a Halle Berry monologue. Nobody can tell you a Halle Berry monologue. Nobody can ever think one of that. They can just tell you exactly what she looked like Because I remember her in James Bond, I remember her in the Flintstones, I remember her in all those movies looking amazing. But that's what she was.
Speaker 1:And for the fact to even say that to him, if he picked up a Halle Berry in that regard, that wouldn't have been nothing crazy. She was not a mainstay actor, so it wasn't like he was trying to make her be less than he just was in love. And he had sentiments that came from where he from and I think you can believe they're outdated sentiments. I don't think there's nothing wrong for someone to look for that. I think that was they kept being the through line through the commentary online about this was like oh, you're wrong for even wanting a woman to do these things when he is a top-tier individual.
Speaker 2:That's not. I think they were. The internet was saying you're wrong for wanting a woman of this caliber to want to do these things.
Speaker 1:No, I saw some other folks who were even just saying those people were stupid. I mean, that's the conversation that has to be had.
Speaker 2:I think the general conversation is a millionaire woman or a woman like that's about to be a huge actress. You can't expect this from but. If you can you can expect this from a teacher maybe not, they be working hours but you can expect this from like, a work from home type of mom, like stay at home mom, but not Halle Berry.
Speaker 1:I just think, yeah, if you met her now, but if you would have came in and she was just doing a set like actresses, come a dime, a dozen, like there's so many girl Halle Berry could have easily have been replaced by the next pretty girl and it wouldn't even have been a thing. So like I think we're being overly critical. Folks was really trying to like disrespect this man when he's still married to the woman he's married he's been with now and hallie berry has been divorced twice and she got now she got dry pussy juice like to help her out.
Speaker 2:Who is, who is this man like I didn't even know he's a baseball player.
Speaker 1:He's like one of the best hitters yeah, for a while I mean, like is he still famous though? Not in the same breath that he was then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so of course he has a successful relationship and he was able to settle down. That's hate, Nobody gives a fuck about what you're doing. He's still well off and ain't nobody checking that's fame is different than than being rich. Bitches is throwing themselves at you because they know you famous. You can be rich, but nobody knows while you're walking down the street because you're not famous, so women aren't throwing themselves at you. So he can successfully be in a monogamous relationship.
Speaker 1:You're not familiar versus what it is. You're just not familiar. This man was a yankee like this. It don't even matter.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter if I see a old yankee from two decades ago as a 23 year old hot bitch walking down the street. I'm not gonna know who he is, you don't have to, and I'm not about to be throwing myself at him, which means that he's gonna be faithful.
Speaker 1:You don't have to do that because he has less options. No, it's not because you don't have to do that, because the reason that you're meeting him, the place that you're meeting him, you're meeting him there because you're looking for successful men of that caliber, like those women are going when you're wealthy, like that, you don't have to look for it's there. People around you have friends and associates, so he's he, he, him being in a successful marriage and relationship as long he's been in and her having her issues with baby daddies that she's paying for out the yin yang hate that for her.
Speaker 6:It shows that he's the one actually hate that for you brought up journey.
Speaker 2:Eric bonet is the one oh that hit her.
Speaker 1:That's what they think eric bonet.
Speaker 2:Oh, that makes sense why they. That's the, that's the one that she like. That was the person who she was the hitter you know? Oh, that's what I thought you said oh I thought you meant the one as in, like the, the man who got away.
Speaker 1:Oh for her. Yeah, oh, okay. No, I thought you were trying to say that's the one who hit her.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, I think the one who got away is Eric Benet, but he cheated on her so she had to leave him.
Speaker 1:He said that too, though Publicly. He said that when he left Hallie, Hallie was going through it. He said he feels like to to him.
Speaker 4:He, she's the one who got away from her yeah, no, he's right.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying well, I'm talking about justice. Oh, david, justice okay he said that his interview with matt barnes. Oh he that he didn't. He left hallie, hallie, didn't? He didn't? How he didn't leave him? Yeah, and she was begging for him to come back. He didn't want to.
Speaker 2:So all right, what else we got story?
Speaker 1:um, is that it? Yeah, we can wrap it up. We gotta talk about Joe and alright, alright, linux thing. You got safe, joe, you lucky. My wife is tired literally exhausted. She don't even want to talk about African American aliens. That's how you know my baby is done oh no, I have to sign out.
Speaker 2:Alright, look at her she just ready.
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Speaker 1:I gotta get her an IV full of Red Bull.